Triggered - Donald Trump Jr - Retired Army General Tony Tata on Biden's Failed Foreign Policy + His New Book | TRIGGERED Ep. 23

00:00:00.000 Good evening and welcome to Triggered.

00:00:23.000 Thank you again for joining us, for all of the support.

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00:00:34.000 The Mainstream Media...

00:00:35.000 Big tech, they ain't exactly going to help us get this message out there, so we're going to do it the old-fashioned way, the Trump way.

00:00:42.000 We're going to do it organic. So just thank you for all of that.

00:00:46.000 Get it out to your friends, because that's, again, how we're going to win and fight back against the insanity that we see each and every day.

00:00:55.000 Just ahead, we got an incredible interview with retired Army General, author, former head of the 82nd Airborne, 101st Airborne, 10th Mountain Division, and senior Trump Defense Department official, Anthony Teta.

00:01:10.000 Great guy. One of the few guys sort of fighting against the bureaucracy in the DOD. You know, watch, you know, they tried canceling him and they wouldn't confirm him.

00:01:19.000 And, you know, again, if you want to do What the duly elected president of the United States wants to do, but that is contrary to the Washington, D.C. unelected bureaucrat narrative.

00:01:30.000 They're gonna make life hell on you.

00:01:32.000 But we'll talk about that in great detail with a great American.

00:01:37.000 But before that, I want to wish you all An incredible Easter.

00:01:43.000 I gave this to my team last second before we went live, so I don't know if they'll be able to incorporate some of the pictures, but, you know, got to spend time with my amazing children and Kim and Ronan, and we just had an absolute We're good to go.

00:02:22.000 In just the way it's meant to be.

00:02:24.000 So we had an amazing time.

00:02:26.000 We had a blast. Spencer seems to be.

00:02:29.000 My little guy Spencer, he's the one that jumped on with me a couple weeks ago because he wanted to say hi to everyone.

00:02:35.000 He seems to have the magic touch for finding the golden egg.

00:02:39.000 I think in his 10 years of life, I think he's found seven of them.

00:02:43.000 And he managed to pull off another one of those victories again, which...

00:02:48.000 Creates a total disaster in our household, right?

00:02:51.000 Because they're all rather competitive.

00:02:53.000 Let's just say the Trump genes run strong.

00:02:57.000 It ends up being a bit of a disaster, but it works out well.

00:03:01.000 So, Easter was incredible, but me and my little man Donnie were tired because we went to the UFC down in Miami on Saturday night to see my really good friend, just all-around badass, Jorge Masvidal fight at the event down there in Miami.

00:03:23.000 Unfortunately, he didn't pull it off, but man, showed a lot of heart for a fighter.

00:03:28.000 You know, late 30s, probably his last fight, but someone who's gone so far out of his way

00:03:33.000 to be supportive of us, the America First movement.

00:03:37.000 He tells, I'll have him on the podcast soon, I think I gotta do that,

00:03:40.000 because just the story of his father and how he literally escaped Cuba from a raft 0.97

00:03:46.000 and how he doesn't wanna bring that shit here is absolutely incredible. 0.98

00:03:51.000 So it was just awesome. 0.99

00:03:53.000 So I went down there with my father.

00:03:55.000 UFC 287, I think it was.

00:04:00.000 Just an amazing night in Miami.

00:04:03.000 Just electric. The MAGA movement is alive and well.

00:04:08.000 The reception we received was insane.

00:04:12.000 Dana, Dana White, who's done this, well, at least 287 times, said it was the most incredible cheer of someone walking into the arena in his history of doing it.

00:04:27.000 So here's a clip of him walking out.

00:04:30.000 The big guy. My big guy.

00:04:31.000 Your favorite president. Walking out with Kid Rock and Dana White to the tune of American Badass.

00:04:38.000 Check it out for yourself.

00:04:40.000 I'm gonna get you.

00:04:42.000 Oh Oh

00:04:46.000 Oh Oh

00:04:50.000 Oh I

00:05:20.000 Mean the crowd was showing love the entire night All right.

00:05:26.000 DJT had to get up in between rounds of fights because they just started chanting, you know, the MAGA chants in USA. It was just awesome.

00:05:35.000 Watch for yourself. But perhaps some of the most fun was actually, you know, backstage, hanging out with Mike Tyson, telling some of those stories with him and his family and his wife, but telling the stories about the good old days back in Atlantic City and the fights with DJT. Not fights...

00:06:16.000 Meaning, boxing matches, not fights with.

00:06:18.000 He actually said DJT was the only guy that ever gave him good advice.

00:06:21.000 He didn't always take it and probably regrets that.

00:06:24.000 Actually said he would come on the podcast right here, live.

00:06:28.000 So I think you guys will appreciate that.

00:06:31.000 But great fighters. Even Jorge came backstage that way.

00:06:34.000 You had Theo Vaughn hanging out with DJT. So that's a podcast maybe we have to make happen as...

00:06:41.000 As well, even if it's against my interest, I may have to see that conversation take place.

00:06:47.000 UFC, I guess he's going to be inducted into the Hall of Fame this year.

00:06:51.000 Cowboy Cerrone definitely wins best t-shirt game because he showed up to the UFC in Miami with a Trump shirt on.

00:07:02.000 Absolutely awesome. You know, Kid Rock, my buddy Bob, obviously just a great dude, great American.

00:07:08.000 And so hanging out backstage with those guys and my son who really loved hanging out with Kyle and Steve Will Do It from NELC, those guys just kicking ass at everything that they're doing and just maybe a little less political, but you can see where they lean, just having a conversation about sanity.

00:07:28.000 So it was just...

00:07:30.000 An insanely awesome evening.

00:07:33.000 We got home at about 3 o'clock in the morning, so a little bit exhausted.

00:07:38.000 A little bit exhausted for Easter.

00:07:41.000 But, you know, just even the posts and the pictures I was just taking just being, you know, flying on the wall.

00:07:47.000 Just amazing and went viral as heck.

00:07:49.000 Literally, it's Dana, DJT, Kid Rock, and Mike Tyson calling the fights.

00:07:55.000 It doesn't get sort of cooler than that.

00:07:59.000 And again, it was just awesome to be in that crowd.

00:08:01.000 Even when I walked in, I got a bit of an ovation myself, which was kind of cool and surprising.

00:08:06.000 But obviously, alive and well in what was formerly White Blue Miami.

00:08:12.000 So... That's the good news.

00:08:15.000 But we have some more.

00:08:17.000 The Texas governor, Greg Abbott, said he's working on a pardon for army sergeant convicted of murder during the 2020 BLM violence.

00:08:29.000 Many on the left called it the summer of love, but Daniel Perry was recently convicted of murder.

00:08:36.000 For shooting and killing a BLM demonstrator named Garrett Foster during the violent, vicious, murderous, looting mayhem of the 2020 Summer of Love riots.

00:08:52.000 Perry was working as an Uber driver on July 25, 2020, when he encountered a large BLM riot in downtown Austin.

00:09:02.000 He told police that a group of protesters encircled his vehicle and that Foster raised an AK-47 at him.

00:09:10.000 Prompting him to open fire with a handgun in self-defense.

00:09:15.000 Now, this case is an obvious case of self-defense.

00:09:18.000 We saw with our own eyes exactly what the Summer of Love riots were all about.

00:09:24.000 This shouldn't surprise anyone.

00:09:26.000 But... But, in these days, unfortunately, there's always a but.

00:09:32.000 There's always a but to logic and reason and decency.

00:09:36.000 Because we live in a sane world...

00:09:39.000 And Austin has a left-wing, George Soros-backed, radical prosecutor named Jose Garza.

00:09:48.000 The prosecutor is being accused by the lead detective of the case of withholding exculpatory evidence from the grand jury.

00:10:01.000 A grand jury They're voted to convict.

00:10:05.000 Okay? The prosecutor is withholding exculpatory evidence.

00:10:09.000 Think about that. I wonder where else that's probably happening.

00:10:12.000 I wonder what other Soros-funded district attorney is doing that.

00:10:20.000 You think there's anything out there like that, guys?

00:10:23.000 Well, Detective David Fugit said in court that there was no evidence, no evidence, that Perry accelerated into the crowd and that Garrett Foster's gunshot wounds indicate that he was in a tactical stance when he approached Perry's door.

00:10:41.000 It does not get more clean-cut than that, but it doesn't matter, because the George Soros radical leftists want to destroy our country.

00:10:51.000 They want to destroy anything that is good and decent left in America.

00:10:56.000 The left is doing a wonderful job of that, as evidenced by literally all of the news about the trans-terrorism going on these days.

00:11:04.000 But it doesn't matter, folks.

00:11:06.000 They keep getting elected because they have endless cash funded by a radical billionaire

00:11:12.000 who wants to destroy everything we know and love about our country.

00:11:17.000 And they're doing it.

00:11:19.000 Look at all the cities.

00:11:20.000 This is just another example.

00:11:22.000 But thank God, Texas Governor Greg Abbott said that he's working on a pardon.

00:11:27.000 He said, and I quote, Texas has one of the strongest stand-your-ground laws of self-defense that cannot be nullified by a jury or a progressive district attorney.

00:11:38.000 I look forward to approving the board's pardon recommendation as it hits my desk.

00:11:45.000 Guys, the real problem is that at least we have a conservative governor in the state of Texas.

00:11:53.000 But you don't have that everywhere else.

00:11:55.000 You have radical leftists.

00:11:57.000 That's the reality. While there may be moderate Democrats left in the country, I know plenty of them.

00:12:04.000 I know plenty of them.

00:12:06.000 There's no one that represents them because they can't win without the Soros money.

00:12:11.000 And it's not just Soros, guys.

00:12:12.000 There's dozens of those billionaires.

00:12:15.000 They used to talk about Sheldon Adelson, the one Republican billionaire that actually funded some of these things, and they could say the most vicious things about him.

00:12:22.000 They could call him any name.

00:12:23.000 He happens to be Jewish, like George Soros.

00:12:25.000 Now, if you say anything about George Soros, it's magically anti-Semitic.

00:12:30.000 Now, his history could call some of those things into question regardless, but it still doesn't matter. 1.00

00:12:36.000 People are being shamed and canceled, and they're afraid to call out George Soros for the radical scumbag he is. 0.94

00:12:45.000 If you look at the things he's done, the people he's helped get elected, and then you look at what happens in those areas, there's literally no one that can tell you it's for the good of the nation, or for the good of anything, moral, just, or decent. 0.97

00:13:00.000 But it doesn't matter, because that's what we're up against.

00:13:04.000 Big tech will have their full backing, and again, they'll call anyone who questions him an anti-Semite.

00:13:09.000 Even if you're talking about crime and electing radical lunatics, doesn't matter.

00:13:15.000 Anti-Semite, right? 0.95

00:13:16.000 It's like racism, the easy button of the political left these days.

00:13:19.000 Doesn't matter. It doesn't have to be about race.

00:13:21.000 You could be talking about anything. No one wants to be called a racist because it's the worst thing in the world, but they do it day in and day out.

00:13:28.000 And unfortunately, they've overblown it so far that now people hear it.

00:13:35.000 Nah, here we go again.

00:13:36.000 Just another person being called a racist.

00:13:38.000 And what they do is they do a major disservice to those people who are actually affected by it.

00:13:45.000 It is a real thing. It's just not the cause of or solution for all of the world's problems, okay?

00:13:50.000 It's a tiny thing in America in 2023, but they'd have you believe that it's the biggest thing in the world. 1.00

00:13:57.000 Just like somehow white supremacy is the nation's largest threat, though no one really can name one or has ever seen more than one or two idiots running around doing those things. 1.00

00:14:08.000 But it doesn't matter. Because we're led by fools. 1.00

00:14:12.000 We're led by lunatics. 1.00

00:14:14.000 And they have the full weight and backing of big tech, the mainstream media, billionaires like Soros, and dozens more behind him. 0.97

00:14:22.000 And that's the battle we're in. 0.99

00:14:25.000 So, speaking of idiots, Joe Biden, at the White House egg roll, mumbles through the question about if he's running for election, because of course he can't get that right. 1.00

00:14:36.000 He basically... But his announcement, and in lighter and still very sad news, Biden was asked by Al Roker if he's running for a re-election. 1.00

00:14:50.000 This is the guy that won 81 million votes, America?

00:14:54.000 You must believe that!

00:14:55.000 He's so competent and so good.

00:14:57.000 So many people got around him because he was the guy that was going to stop World War III magically.

00:15:03.000 Although that doesn't look like it's working out too well.

00:15:05.000 He was the guy that was going to work for the middle class.

00:15:08.000 That worked really poorly.

00:15:10.000 He was the guy that was going to fight for your economy.

00:15:13.000 And your 401k.

00:15:15.000 And all the other things that he was going to magically fix.

00:15:20.000 Look at how he responded.

00:15:22.000 So this is a fantastic event, one of my favorites of the year.

00:15:25.000 I was just wondering, Mr.

00:15:27.000 President, will you be taking part in the Easter egg rolls after, planning on, after 2024?

00:15:33.000 Well, I plan on at least three or four more Easter egg rolls.

00:15:37.000 At least three or four more? Maybe five.

00:15:39.000 Maybe. Maybe five. Maybe six.

00:15:40.000 What the hell? Are you saying that you would be taking part in our upcoming election in 2024?

00:15:48.000 I'll either be rolling an egg or being the guy who's pushing him out.

00:15:53.000 Come on. Help a brother out.

00:15:54.000 Make some news for me. I plan on running out, but we're not prepared to announce it yet.

00:15:59.000 All right. Well, it's so nice.

00:16:01.000 Thank you for having us out here.

00:16:03.000 Good to be here. Thank you, Dr.

00:16:05.000 Biden. Have fun. Guys, this guy is a mumbling moron.

00:16:11.000 He should be in a nursing home, not the White House. 1.00

00:16:15.000 Most agree, by the way.

00:16:17.000 CNN, of all places, found that just one-third of Americans think that he deserves to be re-elected.

00:16:27.000 I'm amazed that even one-third... 1.00

00:16:30.000 I mean, you can be a radical Democrat and still realize that this guy is an imbecile. 0.99

00:16:35.000 But he's effective for what the radical left wants to do because he'll do, sign, and say anything. 0.98

00:16:41.000 And that leads us to another big story that deserves much more attention.

00:16:46.000 Walter Reed Medical Center.

00:16:48.000 Terminates Catholic pastoral care contract right before the Holy Week of Easter, the holiest week in the Christian calendar, and the Biden administration sent a cease and desist order right before the Holy Week that directed Catholic priests to cease any religious services at Walter Reed National Military Medical Center.

00:17:19.000 Are you kidding me? I mean, this looks like an attack on the First Amendment's free exercise of religion, obviously.

00:17:28.000 It comes at the same time as the DOD and Pentagon doctors are claiming that seven-year-olds are capable of deciding whether they can get so-called puberty blockers.

00:17:38.000 No wonder the military is struggling to recruit anyone.

00:17:42.000 No wonder they're falling so short, right?

00:17:45.000 A big part of patriotism is actually, actually believing the stuff that your country stands for.

00:17:52.000 And these days, it stands for puberty blockers, for minors, for allowing children to mutilate their bodies, for not wanting parents to have any say in the matter.

00:18:05.000 That's where we stand. 0.96

00:18:06.000 Under Biden, the Pentagon resembles a typical leftist, lunatic organization. 0.98

00:18:14.000 The attack on your religion is real. 0.98

00:18:18.000 It's palpable. You don't think they didn't know it was Easter?

00:18:22.000 They don't care.

00:18:24.000 You don't think that Christians make up probably the majority of the United States military since they make up a majority of our population?

00:18:32.000 They don't care.

00:18:34.000 If you're in Walter Reed suffering for serving your country, you can't have Catholic services during Easter?

00:18:45.000 God forbid! We want a trans person to, I don't know, talk to you about something is probably where they're going with it because that's where they're going with everything else. 1.00

00:18:56.000 It's insane and it's a tax.

00:18:59.000 Okay guys, don't forget, if they can do these things, And the media is silent.

00:19:06.000 And big tech is silent.

00:19:08.000 And we're silent?

00:19:10.000 They will continue to get away with it.

00:19:12.000 They will undermine our country.

00:19:15.000 They will undermine our Judeo-Christian roots. 0.98

00:19:18.000 They will undermine everything That we stand for. 0.99

00:19:23.000 And to do this for people who are suffering at Walter Reed right now, the week before Easter, shows that they do not give a shit. 0.99

00:19:34.000 So we'll talk a lot about this with Anthony Tata here in a couple seconds. 0.98

00:19:39.000 So guys, thank you for that.

00:19:42.000 And let's get to the interview.

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00:22:58.000 And with that, I want to bring in Anthony Teta.

00:23:03.000 Brigadier General, United States Army, retired.

00:23:09.000 But you were there during the Trump years, Anthony.

00:23:13.000 You were there during some of the lunacy.

00:23:16.000 You were actually outspoken early.

00:23:19.000 And it's sort of amazing watching what's going on in woke military.

00:23:27.000 It's sad.

00:23:29.000 You were like an actual operator also, not just a bureaucrat, right?

00:23:34.000 So you understand both of those worlds, right?

00:23:36.000 You worked in the administration, but you did real stuff on the ground.

00:23:40.000 When I talk to, you know, I was a competitive shooter, and there's a lot of overlap with a lot of those guys.

00:23:46.000 So I talk with, you know, other operators.

00:23:49.000 You know, teams guys, special forces guys, and these are people where the military, it runs in their blood.

00:23:59.000 Not only would they bleed for our country, but their generations of them did. 1.00

00:24:05.000 I speak to them now and they're like, I wouldn't even think about letting my kids go to the military.

00:24:08.000 It's not even like, well, I'll leave it up to them.

00:24:11.000 They're like, no way.

00:24:13.000 What's going on? It's crazy, Don.

00:24:16.000 What's happening is this administration and the progressive left don't love this country the way that...

00:24:24.000 That's clear, by the way.

00:24:26.000 That's not a political thing.

00:24:28.000 There's no objective way to look at it differently.

00:24:32.000 Right. And that's what all these subdivisions, dividing and conquering is what they're doing.

00:24:39.000 They're categorizing people.

00:24:41.000 You're some kind of phobe if you're a conservative and you're some kind of hero if you're on the progressive left side.

00:24:47.000 And so what parents are watching this and seeing that The military, DOD is very political and they don't want their kids involved in that.

00:24:59.000 They see an administration that's sharpening the knives to go to war somewhere.

00:25:05.000 Your father, the president, was all about Disengaging from foreign entanglements.

00:25:11.000 As George Washington said, we should not be in foreign entanglements.

00:25:15.000 Disengaging from that while using the other levers of national power, economy, information, diplomacy, which none of that is happening now under this administration, to shape and influence events.

00:25:29.000 And China, the tariffs, a perfect example. 0.66

00:25:33.000 Leveraging the United States' economic power to achieve a diplomatic and Military outcome by achieving deterrence against China.

00:25:43.000 That finesse is gone now.

00:25:45.000 Not only is it gone, it almost feels like it's the opposite.

00:25:50.000 We're pushing trans stuff in the military and we have the cast of Ted Lasso over at the White House simultaneously You know, Putin is meeting with Xi.

00:26:00.000 Right. The Saudis are meeting with China to eliminate the petrodollar.

00:26:05.000 I mean, I think our viewers understand what that means.

00:26:07.000 If we can't borrow because we have essentially, you know, a fictitious gold standard, you know, backed by oil in the ground, maybe it's a good thing because maybe we wouldn't be able to afford to fund the insanity.

00:26:21.000 Right. Right. You know, that our government funds.

00:26:24.000 You know, here's a billion dollars for the, you know, trans-education in Pakistan.

00:26:28.000 I'm sure that money's going to good use, right?

00:26:29.000 It's being stolen and, you know, let's just say...

00:26:31.000 The ISI is using that money.

00:26:33.000 They don't think that's a serious issue.

00:26:35.000 Like, literally no one does. 0.98

00:26:36.000 But they're happy to take our money if we're foolish enough to give it to them. 0.75

00:26:40.000 But, you know, how is that... 0.91

00:26:43.000 What's the endgame? 0.95

00:26:45.000 I mean, it's obviously stupid, but it does feel like it's there for a purpose, and they're literally changing all of this. 0.99

00:26:52.000 I think it's to undermine society. 0.99

00:26:56.000 Remember, Barack Obama promised fundamental change to this country.

00:27:00.000 You've still got all the Barack Obama people, Susan Rice, et cetera, running this.

00:27:04.000 They are trying to make sure People like your father, your father himself, never get elected again because he is the biggest threat to this crazy agenda that's out there that is fundamentally attempting to change this country.

00:27:18.000 And so what you see is using our institutions, weaponizing our institutions to be levered against, you know, great Americans, hard-working Americans, the middle class, 87,000 IRS agents.

00:27:31.000 It's all intended to intimidate And control the population.

00:27:36.000 It is fascist.

00:27:37.000 It is dictatorial. And that's what the Joe Biden regime is all about.

00:27:40.000 Yeah, and I think that many people make the mistake. 1.00

00:27:42.000 They look at Joe and they see, you know, a bumbling idiot, you know, on TV, someone who can't get through a sentence or walk up a flight of stairs. 0.99

00:27:48.000 And yet, you know, I sort of had this conversation with a bunch of people. 1.00

00:27:53.000 He's actually been very effective.

00:27:56.000 For the radical nature of what they're doing.

00:27:58.000 Meaning, I think it's still Obama and Susan Rice in charge. 1.00

00:28:00.000 They just weren't willing to tarnish their legacies, like, saying this shit. 0.98

00:28:05.000 You know, they wouldn't, you know, like, alright, maybe we want that, but I'm not willing to sign the paper and risk my reputation or, you know, my ability to profiteer off of it. 0.98

00:28:13.000 Whereas, Joe Biden's just...

00:28:16.000 He'll sign anything you put in.

00:28:17.000 He's like Ron Burgundy. You put it on the teleprompter, he'll say it.

00:28:21.000 He'll try to say it on the teleprompter, but if you put it in front of the sign, I'm sure with a crayon he can get through his signature still.

00:28:29.000 I actually think he's been more effective at implementing the stuff that the radical left wants than Obama ever was because they don't care about his legacy.

00:28:38.000 That and he's effective at doing what he's told to do.

00:28:41.000 Well, that's all it is, right?

00:28:43.000 No one thinks he's coming up with policy on his own.

00:28:46.000 It's pretty clear he can't come up with much, and yet it's effective for that cause.

00:28:52.000 Yeah, absolutely.

00:28:53.000 I had that thought driving over here that Biden is actually a very effective president for the progressive left.

00:29:02.000 And he ran as a moderate, and now what he's doing is executing the New Green Deal, the progressive left, everything.

00:29:10.000 The school shooting in Nashville, having been a superintendent of one of the largest school systems in the country, in Wake County, that was a big concern of mine.

00:29:21.000 Every single day, you've got 150,000 students, are they all okay?

00:29:26.000 The fact that they talk about the issue of trans rights and all that instead of talking about Christianity or the school or the victims.

00:29:37.000 Or they won't even acknowledge it's a terrorist attack, right?

00:29:40.000 If it was a guy like you or me in a MAGA hat, they would jump to those conclusions.

00:29:48.000 Really quickly. Yeah, really quickly.

00:29:50.000 That's an interesting one.

00:29:52.000 You've led the 82nd Airborne, the 101st Airborne, the 10th Mountain Division.

00:30:00.000 You've also run school districts.

00:30:02.000 Right. You know, I have five kids myself.

00:30:05.000 You've led men in combat.

00:30:07.000 You've managed large school districts.

00:30:10.000 Right. How do we prevent this stuff from happening?

00:30:13.000 Because it feels so obvious to me, and yet the bureaucrats won't allow it to happen.

00:30:16.000 Yeah, so, you know, I had 150,000 students, 170 schools, 170 different entities that needed to be protected.

00:30:22.000 I had a security team.

00:30:24.000 And I leveraged my experience to be proactive, to be in the community.

00:30:29.000 And we partnered with...

00:30:32.000 There were 12 different municipalities, Raleigh, Wake Forest, Holly Springs, others.

00:30:37.000 And all of their police departments provided school resource officers, is what they were called.

00:30:43.000 But they were cops with guns at the school.

00:30:46.000 Well, they had tasers.

00:30:48.000 And they were very effective.

00:30:50.000 And it's all about...

00:30:52.000 A good intelligence work is understanding your population and we would have meetings and they would brief me.

00:30:59.000 We think we're a little worried about this and we rehearsed school lockdown drills and God forbid nothing happened in my time as superintendent there.

00:31:07.000 Okay, so it seems like the solution is a relatively obvious one with some basic training, working with those institutions that, you know, the same ones that the teachers union want to defund and all that nonsense.

00:31:17.000 I mean, but what did that cost you?

00:31:20.000 I mean, that's one of the largest school districts in North Carolina.

00:31:23.000 How much of the state did that comprise?

00:31:26.000 It was peanuts relative to my $1.25 billion budget.

00:31:31.000 I could have done more.

00:31:34.000 So you're thinking, for the $130 billion we have spent...

00:31:40.000 By the way, that's just the beginning.

00:31:42.000 As you understand, that's just the beginning.

00:31:45.000 Big war has been looking at big pharma for the last couple of years and saying, it's our turn now, guys.

00:31:50.000 We haven't been in war in a year.

00:31:52.000 Let's get going. But you think for...

00:31:55.000 For a tiny fraction of that $130 billion, we could implement this across the country.

00:32:01.000 Across the country. At every public school, every private school, every charter school.

00:32:05.000 And that we could figure out some scenario where the funding, it would be...

00:32:12.000 A net zero, almost, where you could apply those funds, you could find them somewhere else.

00:32:16.000 There's so much waste in school systems and education systems, particularly with all this DEI training and all this stuff you've got to do.

00:32:25.000 You could just repurpose that money.

00:32:27.000 Yeah, by the way, take that training, which serves literally zero purpose whatsoever, you know, other than maybe, again, for the woke agenda, but doesn't actually teach...

00:32:34.000 Like, I wish they'd teach math in school these days.

00:32:36.000 Right. Because it feels like that's not of a concern.

00:32:40.000 I'm not saying because someone will criticize me and say, oh, they're still teaching math.

00:32:44.000 No, but our kids are failing at it.

00:32:45.000 We spend more per capita than any nation in the world, and we're like 28 in the rankings.

00:32:51.000 We have schools that the entire graduating class isn't proficient in reading.

00:32:57.000 So yeah, yeah, they're teaching, but like, give me a break.

00:33:00.000 Well, school choice is such a big deal now.

00:33:02.000 And for parents and for legislatures and governors to be sure that they provide parents as much opportunity as possible for their precious cargo, their children.

00:33:13.000 You have five children. You know, I have two.

00:33:15.000 I mean, nothing is more important than your children, their education, their livelihood, their potential.

00:33:21.000 And so, why not put some money towards securing our children, you know, a little bit more?

00:33:26.000 And you could take a fraction of what we're giving to Ukraine and apply it across the country, and the problem would...

00:33:34.000 You'll never eliminate any and all threats, but it would be greatly diminished.

00:33:39.000 So talk a little bit about Ukraine.

00:33:42.000 Obviously, there's a huge money spend To protect a border that's not our own.

00:33:46.000 We're unwilling to protect our own, it seems.

00:33:49.000 Or it is.

00:33:50.000 That's just fact at this point.

00:33:53.000 What do you see going on there?

00:33:55.000 And when you talk about the rise of China, the threat there, our other allies around the world, whether they be Taiwan or others, how...

00:34:06.000 How can we be fighting a proxy war, which is all it's been, right?

00:34:10.000 I mean, we're de facto, I guess there's people in there still have sort of the 1980 mentality of we've got to take on Russia now, you know, even if we won economically in the early 90s.

00:34:21.000 How do we, I mean, can we fight a two-front war right now?

00:34:24.000 You've led some of the most elite units in our army and it feels like So much of what my father spent trying to build up.

00:34:31.000 Build up the military, get them the best equipment, get them replenished, rather than fighting an archaic war in an archaic way.

00:34:40.000 But are those resources so diminished that we'd actually be able to fight a war at this point?

00:34:47.000 Well, the resources are finite, Don, because we can't even meet our recruiting goals under this administration.

00:34:53.000 And then when you talk about providing Patriot missile systems, M1 Abrams tanks, and some of our more sophisticated weaponry to Ukraine, and then if the balloon goes up in Taiwan, you know, we've got a real issue on our hands.

00:35:08.000 And so, you know, I managed, as the undersecretary, the national defense strategy, which talked about China, Russia as their primary threats, Iran, North Korea as their secondary threats.

00:35:18.000 And what this administration has done is managed to create a very solid alliance between our four major competitors.

00:35:28.000 It's mind-boggling.

00:35:29.000 It's either intentional or utter incompetence.

00:35:32.000 Maybe a combination of both.

00:35:33.000 Right. And you have to go back to this botched withdrawal from Afghanistan to understand what's happening in Ukraine.

00:35:43.000 And I'm furious about Kirby releasing this report that was watered down anyway yesterday into the maw of a no news cycle.

00:35:54.000 The biggest insult to every veteran from Afghanistan was what happened on the withdrawal.

00:36:03.000 The second biggest insult and the final nail in that coffin is releasing this thing into the four-day weekend.

00:36:10.000 Yeah, get into the details of that for our viewers, because again, you know, people wanted to be with their families over Easter.

00:36:17.000 And so I'm sure it was intentionally, you know, every time there's incompetence, they release it on a Friday evening, on a holiday weekend, so no one's like, oh, we released it!

00:36:25.000 We're being really forthcoming.

00:36:26.000 You know, they'll make sure that their lackeys in the media don't cover any of the incompetence.

00:36:30.000 I'm sure it'll be whitewashed already.

00:36:32.000 So whatever incompetence is highlighted, you'll assume it's 20x.

00:36:37.000 But the underlying point, Don, is that when that was happening, I was the deputy commander general of all the troops in Afghanistan, 06, 07.

00:36:47.000 And I had 25,000 troops that I was responsible.

00:36:52.000 We lost 87 of those troops in combat.

00:36:56.000 Many others were maimed by IEDs and firefights.

00:37:00.000 I had several call on me saying, sir, they were emotionally broken.

00:37:05.000 The generation of veterans that went through Afghanistan are emotionally traumatized by what happened then.

00:37:14.000 And now, it's almost, because there's been no accountability, there's been no vetting, there's been no airing of really what went wrong, there's been no attempt to learn how not to repeat that in the future.

00:37:26.000 They slide this thing.

00:37:27.000 It's almost like it's an intentional, you know, blank you to veterans and the veteran community that's already fractured.

00:37:35.000 And they just slide this thing out there.

00:37:37.000 And so now over Easter, the most holy of weekends...

00:37:42.000 The veteran community has to wrestle with this concept that their service, according to this administration, was meaningless.

00:37:50.000 So what exactly does it say specifically that we wouldn't...

00:37:55.000 What's the breaking news in that for those who, again, missed it?

00:37:59.000 Well, the breaking news is that they blame your father, but, you know...

00:38:04.000 I know that's a shocker, but...

00:38:08.000 They were taking a lot of victory laps at the time because they were able to accelerate it, and they did it during the fighting season, rather, in the winter when a lot of these people are literally in caves in minor details like that.

00:38:20.000 All that kind of stuff we had talked about for the transition, which they wouldn't listen to us when the Biden administration came in.

00:38:27.000 But the breaking news, really, the one tidbit, the one morsel is that Biden said, get butts in seats.

00:38:34.000 I want max number of refugees taken out. 1.00

00:38:37.000 It didn't matter if they were vetted, not vetted, needed to leave, didn't need to leave, terrorists, not terrorists.

00:38:42.000 He just wanted every airplane full.

00:38:44.000 And so you remember this sort of...

00:38:45.000 What could go wrong, Anthony? What could go wrong?

00:38:47.000 You remember this nonsensical...

00:38:51.000 Every briefing, this has been the largest airlift of people since the Berlin airlift or whatever.

00:38:58.000 And I'm like, that's utterly meaningless.

00:39:01.000 There might have been a few hundred people we needed to get out of there.

00:39:04.000 And they're talking about 75, whatever the number is, a thousand.

00:39:10.000 But what that did, according to the report, is it made them increase the flow of people through Abbey Gate.

00:39:19.000 And Abbey Gate is where the suicide bombing happened.

00:39:22.000 And so... Well, we read now that they...

00:39:24.000 I mean, one of the things I saw, like, they actually had the bomber, like...

00:39:28.000 A sniper had them in the crosshairs and couldn't get permission to actually take them out.

00:39:32.000 They knew. Right. Which is a hallmark of the Obama administration, that 8,000-mile screwdriver to have to go up through several different levels of command for a sniper to do his job, right?

00:39:45.000 I mean, you divest all of that responsibility and authority down to the lowest level.

00:39:51.000 Well, it's why they took out ISIS so quickly under my father.

00:39:53.000 You let the warfighters fight a war.

00:39:55.000 And I had that. I had complaints from friends before.

00:39:58.000 They were like, we'd have a playing card guy.

00:40:01.000 A very high value target.

00:40:03.000 And they'd be like, you go into a building and we're ready and we call DC. And with the time difference, it's 3 o'clock in the morning.

00:40:09.000 No one's in their office. They're sleeping comfortably in their well-air-conditioned homes.

00:40:14.000 And by the time they got information, now there's 50 kids playing soccer in front of the hotel or whatever they had.

00:40:20.000 And they just couldn't do it.

00:40:23.000 To think that they had this guy in their sights and some bureaucrat wouldn't allow it to do it.

00:40:31.000 Now 13 incredible Americans are dead.

00:40:34.000 And by the way, no consequence to anyone, right?

00:40:37.000 No consequence. And then five minutes later they go, I guess five hours later, we found the masterminds.

00:40:43.000 Who did this? And we were able to...

00:40:45.000 Wait, wait, wait. You're like the guys like, you know, I saw the Secretary of State on TV. They could not have seen this coming.

00:40:52.000 I'm like, really? Right, right. Or I guess that was Lloyd Austin, right?

00:40:55.000 You couldn't have seen it coming. Right.

00:40:57.000 Well, if you... What are you talking about?

00:41:00.000 Everyone saw it coming.

00:41:01.000 I remember picking up my nine-year-old.

00:41:03.000 I tell this story all the time.

00:41:05.000 I picked up my nine-year-old at school that week for a father-son dinner.

00:41:08.000 He's like, Dad, why would they leave the civilians? 0.98

00:41:13.000 Why would they withdraw the military?

00:41:14.000 This is a nine-year-old.

00:41:15.000 Right. At the time. Right.

00:41:17.000 Like, Dad, why would we leave them, you know, 86 billion in equipment?

00:41:21.000 Why would we leave them any equipment?

00:41:22.000 I don't understand. You know, why did we leave them biometric scanners so they could find...

00:41:26.000 You didn't know what the word biometric was.

00:41:28.000 I don't want to be that guy that, you know, my three-year-old talks about nuclear proliferation in the Korean Peninsula.

00:41:33.000 It's like, no, they didn't. Like, you're making that up.

00:41:34.000 But, like, he did was like...

00:41:36.000 He was like, there was like the scanner stuff that they could find the people that were helping us for 20 years.

00:41:40.000 Mm-hmm. And I was like, I have no answers.

00:41:42.000 These aren't serious people anymore.

00:41:44.000 Right. They're not. They're not serious people, Don.

00:41:46.000 And you look at this and you've got to say, what's going on?

00:41:50.000 Well, what's going on is what they wanted to do.

00:41:56.000 Think about it. Everybody was on vacation.

00:41:59.000 It was August, the peak of fighting season, as you mentioned.

00:42:03.000 And all of Europe is on vacation.

00:42:07.000 Every NATO nation was in there in some form.

00:42:10.000 And one of the things, I had calls sometimes multiple times a week with every, you know, the major NATO nation, UK, Canada, Germany, and I reassured them, we came in together, we modified together, we will leave together.

00:42:26.000 And the talking points that, oh, NATO was broken under President Trump, couldn't be further from the truth.

00:42:34.000 We had tremendous relations and tremendous respect for one another.

00:42:39.000 And so it's Biden who came in and gets to my point for bringing this up.

00:42:43.000 They leave there on vacation.

00:42:46.000 Remember, Blinken was in the Hamptons and Psaki was somewhere else. 1.00

00:42:52.000 Not that it would matter because he's incompetent, but when you think about all the NATO nations, what happens in Europe in August?

00:43:02.000 Everybody's gone on vacation.

00:43:04.000 Politicians all the way down to government workers.

00:43:08.000 So we didn't do any lateral coordination.

00:43:10.000 We just left. We were just leaving.

00:43:13.000 There was no, like, oh, hey, guys, we thought you might want to know.

00:43:16.000 Yeah, no, I feel they were equally surprised, meaning our allies and the people who fought with us for 20 years and the translators.

00:43:22.000 I know friends, again, they were doing sort of like publicly paid or privately paid for missions to try to get some of the people who were actually helpful, you know, who they vetted over decades of being shot at.

00:43:34.000 Right. We're not going to help those people, but if you're an unvetted terrorist, maybe ISIS, but sure, get on the plane.

00:43:41.000 Come on in. Bring that backpack with you.

00:43:42.000 It's wonderful. I hear it ticking.

00:43:46.000 It's probably fine.

00:43:48.000 Why take the chance?

00:43:50.000 Yeah. So the big point here is Putin's watching all that, and he says NATO is broken.

00:43:57.000 The Americans just shafted NATO. And I'm gonna, if, you know, most people recognize the window of opportunity by the sound of its shutting, Putin saw that window of opportunity, began a couple weeks later, moving troops into Belarus, moving troops on a Ukraine border.

00:44:17.000 And suddenly, we're left holding this bag in Afghanistan, and you've got the utterly incompetent Tony Blinken, You know, just not sure what to do, you know, and just...

00:44:30.000 There's zero diplomacy.

00:44:32.000 Yeah, so you guys understand.

00:44:34.000 That's our Secretary of State.

00:44:35.000 That's the guy that got up and did a press conference the week following saying that he was, and I quote, shocked and dismayed that the Taliban... 0.53

00:44:45.000 Did not install a more diverse and inclusive government.

00:44:52.000 That's not a joke. 1.00

00:44:53.000 That's like verbatim of what this idiot said on a world stage after 13 marines were killed, after we embarrassed ourselves, after China sitting there salivating, you know, because whatever the timeline was for taking over Taiwan, it has now been rapidly accelerated because, like, this idiot thought, like... 1.00

00:45:15.000 There was even a chance. 1.00

00:45:16.000 I mean, they watched the Taliban throw homosexuals off of a building. 0.97

00:45:19.000 Did they think there was going to be a big, like, gay contingent of the Taliban that was going to have a seat at the table? 0.94

00:45:23.000 Like, maybe we'll have a trans, you know, the trans movement now. 0.93

00:45:28.000 I mean, they own everything, right?

00:45:29.000 They're the most privileged class in the world, as far as I'm concerned right now.

00:45:33.000 Like, was the Taliban going to have a big trans coalition, you know, in Afghanistan to help decide what's going on?

00:45:39.000 I mean... Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:45:41.000 Well, let me... Take that, Annie, and raise it. 0.99

00:45:46.000 So he made that moronic statement. 0.99

00:45:49.000 Come around now to Ukraine. 0.99

00:45:53.000 Putin, there's been no diplomacy.

00:45:56.000 On the eve of the invasion, how wrong did the intelligence have to be, the U.S. intelligence community, how wrong do Blinken and Biden's instincts have to be to offer Zelensky a ride out on the eve of the invasion?

00:46:12.000 Remember, Zelensky famously said, I don't need a ride, I need ammunition.

00:46:18.000 So think about this for a second, Don.

00:46:21.000 If your father had done that, and this would have never happened, it did not happen.

00:46:26.000 I said, it didn't happen.

00:46:31.000 In the four years President Trump was in, that negative has been proven.

00:46:35.000 It didn't happen and it wouldn't happen.

00:46:37.000 But think about how wrong they have to be.

00:46:40.000 Let me put it a different way.

00:46:43.000 They offered to decapitate the Ukrainian government to assist Vladimir Putin's invasion of Ukraine.

00:46:50.000 Yeah. No, that sounds like a welcome act.

00:46:51.000 Like, hey, we'll take this guy out.

00:46:54.000 There will be no leadership.

00:46:55.000 You guys just have that.

00:46:57.000 Come on out, yeah. And that was their very first instinct.

00:47:01.000 And it was because, A, they're incompetent, but B, the intelligence was really bad.

00:47:08.000 If you recall, I was doing a lot of Fox and Newsmax a year ago on this.

00:47:13.000 I was one of the only guys saying, look, the Russian soldiers are not 10-foot tall.

00:47:16.000 This is going to take a long time.

00:47:18.000 You know, Putin doesn't move 150,000 troops and decide to wrap it up in a few weeks.

00:47:24.000 And everybody was saying, all the other blue-check generals were saying, you know, CNN, MSNBC, oh, this is going to be a 72-hour and everybody's going to be speaking Russian. 0.63

00:47:40.000 I said, no, it's not.

00:47:41.000 And A, I've commanded Ukrainian soldiers in combat in Kosovo, and they're very good, they're very technically competent.

00:47:48.000 B, one of my dearest West Point friends that graduated with me left Wall Street in 2014 after the Maidan riots, went and joined the Ukrainian military because he's passionate about it, and he was shot and killed on the Russian front in 2014, Mark Paslowski. And so they have the passion, they have the technical competence.

00:48:09.000 And so the real question for me is, you know, just like any border incursion, you know, international law, we probably have a role here with NATO and reinforcing NATO and making sure that nothing happens to NATO. Ukraine's not in NATO. So we have a monitor, maybe push them some stuff.

00:48:35.000 I think from a defense perspective, the one thing that the administration has gotten right is the rotational combat brigades that have been going over there from the 101st, 82nd and others, 1st Armored Division.

00:48:47.000 And doing what we call flexible deterrent options.

00:48:51.000 And that shows some level of commitment.

00:48:55.000 But adding Finland to NATO... By the way, that's what got us here to begin with.

00:49:01.000 Meaning we can say what we want.

00:49:02.000 I'm not saying Putin's a good guy.

00:49:03.000 He saw weakness and the nature of a predator is to exploit that weakness.

00:49:07.000 That's a story as old as nature itself.

00:49:10.000 You look at Joe Biden, it only encourages your enemies to pounce on the weakness, right?

00:49:17.000 When you started talking about Ukraine, which is a large country, land mass-wise, you know, hundreds of miles of border, and NATO's like, okay, fine.

00:49:27.000 You know what? It's been a 50-year stalemate.

00:49:30.000 Let's just add him into NATO. I'm like, wait a minute, are we not encroaching?

00:49:36.000 It just feels like, and if you say that, you're a Russian apologist, and I'm like, I'm not apologizing for him, but I'm also not so intellectually either dishonest or stupid to say that, oh yeah, no, no, no, we did nothing.

00:49:51.000 Maybe Putin was going to do it anyway, but I feel like we gave him the excuse To do it even if they wanted to. 0.88

00:49:59.000 It'd be a lot harder on the world stage to do this if we weren't like, okay, we're gonna let them in, and now we're doing the same in Finland, and it's like, you know, what do you do when a megalomaniac and an egomaniac is pressured to that level?

00:50:13.000 So, for the record, Putin's a bad guy.

00:50:15.000 He shouldn't have done this. We need to make sure that he can't do this anymore, etc.

00:50:24.000 I've spent my career fighting evil on behalf of the United States.

00:50:29.000 But when you think about it, adding Finland, for example, to NATO, There was no deliberation about that.

00:50:36.000 We've got now a commitment that if there's a border incursion in Finland, American soldiers are now going to go fight and die in Finland.

00:50:44.000 And Germany still won't pay their dues because Joe Biden's not going to make them do it like Trump did.

00:50:49.000 Still buying Russian oil and increasing the war chest that Putin pivots into his war in Ukraine.

00:50:56.000 Well, that's the one that I never understood.

00:50:57.000 My father nailed that in my opinion.

00:50:59.000 I'm saying like, wait a minute.

00:51:01.000 So Germany doesn't want to pay its NATO dues.

00:51:04.000 It was a big deal when Trump was like, pay it.

00:51:06.000 And we're like, oh my god, Trump's threatening NATO. I'm like, no, he's just saying, it wasn't like he asked them to pay more.

00:51:13.000 Just pay what you said you'd pay.

00:51:15.000 Well, we've all agreed we'd pay, and that was a big deal.

00:51:18.000 And then they're saying, well, we need more protection from the United States, paid for by the United States, mostly.

00:51:24.000 Which is the vast majority of NATO's budget, is the U.S. But we're going to simultaneously enrich the country Russia by buying its oil because we can get it for a cent cheaper than we could, say, from the US or other sources.

00:51:40.000 But we want you to pay extra money to defend us against the people who we're enabling to do this.

00:51:45.000 And it's like, I don't understand.

00:51:48.000 And when Trump basically said the same thing, Oh my god.

00:51:52.000 It's a threat to NATO. This has been an alliance for 50 years.

00:51:56.000 I'm like, listen, with friends like NATO, I'm like, I don't know that I need friends.

00:51:59.000 If they don't want to pay their dues...

00:52:01.000 You know, it's called tough love, Don.

00:52:03.000 Your father was exactly right.

00:52:06.000 Every collective security arrangement needs an alpha.

00:52:09.000 And your father was the alpha in NATO, because NATO for too long has been a cocktail circuit.

00:52:14.000 Yes, they have supported us in the out of area mission in Afghanistan.

00:52:19.000 They did great work there to try, whether it was a 30 person provincial reconstruction team like Romania had, Which we left hanging, by the way, all the way up to brigade combat team from Canada.

00:52:31.000 That seems to be like a recurring theme here, leaving our allies hanging.

00:52:36.000 Yeah, absolutely. And as they see that, I'm sure our allies like Taiwan are probably less than thrilled.

00:52:40.000 Exactly. China is watching.

00:52:42.000 Our level of lack of commitment to our allies.

00:52:47.000 And so what you really have is an international geopolitical stage where China has made the calculation, let me come in and from an information diplomatic operation point of view, Do a big meeting with Putin and promise to financially backstop them.

00:53:07.000 Think about Russia running low on troops, running low on money, with China's massive economic engine backstopping them.

00:53:18.000 Listen, I'd say Russia's a... 0.99

00:53:20.000 I'd say it's an underperformance.

00:53:22.000 Right. I mean, you were right in that you said, hey, it's not going to be over that quickly, but, I mean, I think it's probably one of the gross underperformances, perhaps, of military history.

00:53:30.000 Yeah, perhaps. Meaning...

00:53:32.000 Other than our Afghanistan withdrawal.

00:53:34.000 Well, yeah, well, yes. No, no, listen, people in glass houses, I understand, but, like...

00:53:38.000 But, you know, I think people said, hey, maybe it wasn't days, but months.

00:53:42.000 Right. You know, here we are a year and change later.

00:53:46.000 And, you know, now, the news is also a little biased.

00:53:49.000 Like, I don't think that Russia's actually losing, you know.

00:53:51.000 Every time that, like, a Russian tank is, like, hit by one of our missiles paid for by the U.S. taxpayer, it's like, Ukraine is advancing! 0.96

00:53:59.000 You know, but then every time Russia takes over an entire town, it's like, well, it's not really strategically significant. 0.53

00:54:04.000 Right, right, right. You know, the PSYOP of the media response to this stuff isn't.

00:54:08.000 So I don't think you... You know, Putin's winning.

00:54:11.000 It's taking him a lot longer than anyone imagined.

00:54:14.000 I think he's got some egg on his face given what sort of the world thought of the Russian military and their abilities.

00:54:18.000 But the China component changes all of that.

00:54:21.000 It changes the calculus.

00:54:23.000 Think about how Reagan built up our military to drive the Soviet Union into the ground economically.

00:54:30.000 Think about if we get my apology focused on Ukraine and pouring money, pouring money, pouring money, and China's just sitting there.

00:54:37.000 There's no if, Tony.

00:54:39.000 We've already done that.

00:54:41.000 To the tune of $130 billion.

00:54:43.000 Right. And so what does it mean to our economic coffers, our military equipment, If we continue to do this with Ukraine, and Russia's just got an open checkbook with China, is that a reverse Reagan on us now?

00:55:00.000 Well, it certainly feels like it, right?

00:55:02.000 I mean, China has expanded all over the world.

00:55:05.000 Right. They own every precious metal mine and rare earth mineral mine in sub-Saharan Africa.

00:55:13.000 Right. I'm sure they care very much about the environmental standards and child slave labor used to mine these things. 0.80

00:55:18.000 They're very cognizant of it.

00:55:19.000 Our ESG scores don't count that stuff against Apple and others because they subcontract it out.

00:55:26.000 They didn't pull the trigger themselves, even if it's pulling the trigger.

00:55:30.000 But China's expanded their influence in Latin America.

00:55:34.000 Whether it be through telecom or other, again, oil and gas and all these things.

00:55:37.000 Like, you know, talk about the threat of China.

00:55:41.000 Because, again, we think of it, oh, it's just economic and there's maybe some military, but it's so much more pervasive than even, I think, the average person who understands they're by far the biggest threat we face today.

00:55:53.000 Your father, the president, absolutely nailed this.

00:55:59.000 There wasn't a day as the undersecretary they went by that I wasn't making some decision or recommendation relative to China's Belt and Road strategy.

00:56:12.000 The Huawei comes in to Africa.

00:56:16.000 They refit some countries' telecoms.

00:56:20.000 The Chinese build a bridge, get the country in debt to them, and then they come in with their military training. 0.99

00:56:28.000 And all of a sudden, they have pervasively integrated themselves into this country. 0.62

00:56:33.000 And one of the last things I did as Under Secretary is I went to several different countries, Africa, Southwest Asia, Indian Ocean, And they were all areas where China is trying to build ports.

00:56:47.000 You know, Equatorial Guinea.

00:56:50.000 They are getting big bucks, you know, the west coast of Africa.

00:56:54.000 And briefcases of cash, right?

00:56:56.000 Let's not pretend they're doing this above board, right?

00:56:58.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, it's...

00:57:00.000 And then Mozambique was another area.

00:57:04.000 Maldives, another area.

00:57:05.000 And it's, you know...

00:57:07.000 What's in the Maldives? Is it just strategic...

00:57:09.000 It's in the Indian Ocean, 1100 islands.

00:57:12.000 I think of it as a resort chain of islands, but I guess it's just proximity to the Middle East.

00:57:18.000 You come out of the Persian Gulf, you come out of the Malaccan Strait above Indonesia, and there's the Maldives.

00:57:25.000 The Secretary asked me to go there, and China wants to build a base, a huge naval base there.

00:57:34.000 It's kind of like Diego Garcia is to us.

00:57:37.000 We have a bomber fleet down in Diego Garcia to do operations from the Indian Ocean up into Southwest Asia.

00:57:45.000 China is very serious.

00:57:47.000 I talked to the Prime Minister of Maldives for two days and she is very concerned.

00:57:53.000 She's very Western leaning but she says that China is coming in here with all this money. 0.88

00:57:58.000 I got a very poor population.

00:58:00.000 I'm not sure what to do.

00:58:03.000 We signed an agreement with her and the Maldives and with Mozambique and with Equatorial Guinea and with Morocco and everywhere to try to counter Chinese influence, making commitments and promises that we would work together and teamwork as a partner, if not an ally. But that notion, especially when you see sort of the flip-flopping in our political system, when you see the actual way we treat a lot of our allies, certainly probably doesn't outweigh the, again, briefcase of cash and promises.

00:58:36.000 I don't think that China's been a good ally To the general people of a population.

00:58:41.000 You mentioned Mozambique. I imagine the average person in Mozambique is probably suffering because of China's incursion.

00:58:46.000 But the people at the top and the people who make the power, they're driving Bentleys right now.

00:58:51.000 Right. Absolutely.

00:58:53.000 No one will talk about what's actually going on there.

00:58:56.000 But talk about what the threat means to the U.S. now as you see that incursion go further into Latin America and otherwise.

00:59:04.000 I mean, they're right up on our borders.

00:59:06.000 Yeah, they are. Latin America, Central America, Panama Canal.

00:59:11.000 They're working with Venezuela, you know, everywhere in South America.

00:59:17.000 The Chinese strategy is one to just plant all these seeds everywhere, see what takes root, continue to nourish it, and become, you know, Achieve global hegemony and encounter the U.S. And we're getting really near that tipping point, Don. I really think that from where we are today, remember Obama used to have the strategy that a weaker America made for a better world. 0.95

00:59:47.000 That was his strategy, his apology tour.

00:59:50.000 He thought we were too aggressive.

00:59:52.000 And so you have the same people running Biden and putting the talking points in front of Biden.

00:59:58.000 And so why else would we not be energy independent?

01:00:04.000 Why else would we, you know, do what we're doing to our military where we can't meet our recruiting goals?

01:00:11.000 Why else would we be doing...

01:00:12.000 You mean Drag Queen Story Hour at Fort Bragg isn't a great recruitment tool for the... 1.00

01:00:17.000 Yeah, we wasn't there when I was there, but...

01:00:20.000 What would have happened if you were there in this time?

01:00:23.000 But, like, how did...

01:00:24.000 Listen, there's guys that were like you that are in the...

01:00:28.000 I understand there's the woke generals that want to get on the board of Disney.

01:00:32.000 That's their retirement plan.

01:00:33.000 I understand that. You've written books and become an author.

01:00:38.000 You've got to do something when you get out.

01:00:42.000 How does someone who can dedicate their lives to this just go along blindly with that insanity in these systems?

01:00:48.000 And again, when you think about the threat of China and you're like, yeah, we're wasting our money on the drag queen story hour at Fort Bragg. 0.75

01:00:54.000 They're taking over Latin America on our borders while we're watching it. 0.99

01:01:00.000 And consequently, we can't meet our recruitment requirements because a patriotic American's not going to sign up To fight for an America he doesn't understand.

01:01:10.000 When we're told the trans, it's the social movement of our generation.

01:01:17.000 It's like, does anyone believe this? 0.99

01:01:19.000 And I'm fairly, let's call it progressive, on the issue, because if you're an adult and you want to chop off your generals, I don't give a shit. 0.99

01:01:26.000 Have at it. Don't bitch to me later. 1.00

01:01:29.000 Even I've said, look, I don't care what you do. 0.99

01:01:31.000 In our military, and jamming it down our throats, and then you talk about, we had a...

01:01:37.000 We had people on this show before talking about it, like, Ronnie Jackson was here, you know, Admiral and this, and he served in the White House, and he's a doctor, and he was like, well, you know, the military recruitment, like, they'll pay for your gender reassignment surgery, but when you're going through that process, you're so jacked up on hormones, they won't even let you actually fight.

01:01:56.000 So, like, they're paying for it, you get to sit on the sidelines, you check the box off, like, I was in the military and served in my country, and like, but, You weren't.

01:02:06.000 You were, but not really.

01:02:08.000 You weren't going to ever get deployed.

01:02:09.000 It feels like it's just...

01:02:12.000 We're allowing people to game a system while the guys we'd actually want fighting for us are like, yeah, screw that.

01:02:18.000 Why would I do it? Yeah, peace out.

01:02:20.000 Right, yeah. It's a real issue.

01:02:23.000 Army, 60%, 70% recruiting.

01:02:26.000 Marines are the only one that really hit their recruiting goal, and that's because they did a little bit of an accounting fudge where they pulled from next year's recruits to meet this year's recruiting.

01:02:37.000 And that's a real indicator of the sort of temperature of the country.

01:02:43.000 If you can't get, and we have small military relative to 20, 30 years ago, about 50% of what it was.

01:02:52.000 And if you can't get...

01:02:55.000 500,000 people in the military, 100,000 a year is kind of what you need out of a 330 million country.

01:03:05.000 You've got real issues.

01:03:06.000 And it's a lack of leadership.

01:03:08.000 It's a divisive administration that pushes down these ideologies.

01:03:16.000 I mean, I know Lloyd Austin very well.

01:03:19.000 I can tell you there's no way that Even though he's prophesizing it, that back in the day when he was my commander in the 82nd Airborne, he never talked about any of this stuff.

01:03:33.000 The question is, do you think he even believes it now?

01:03:35.000 I don't. I hope not, because if he doesn't actually believe it, then maybe there's a chance.

01:03:43.000 Right. We can gain back some insanity.

01:03:46.000 If he actually believes it and has bought the Kool-Aid, then it's...

01:03:50.000 I mean, they're both terrible, right?

01:03:52.000 If he doesn't believe it and he's just going along with it because that's the thing and that's the Disney retirement package and board seat and stuff like that, just be the woke general. 0.98

01:04:02.000 That's a problem too, but it's not as bad as actually being dumb enough to believe any of this stuff.

01:04:07.000 He either has fully bought into it or he's going to continue to do so because of You take on that mantle and you can't change this late in life because you're the board seats, the Disney, all that stuff that's waiting. 0.66

01:04:26.000 And that's clearly Blinken's game.

01:04:28.000 He's completely uninterested in being Secretary of State, but he's totally interested in the portfolio that comes after it.

01:04:35.000 Yeah, it's like doing his time to get some creds and we'll make some money after that and like, you know, just appease the woke people because there's no consequence for Boeing insane woke, but there is a consequence for being reasonable, even reasonable, you know, these days on some of these issues.

01:04:51.000 Like, I don't know if we can pull it up, but we had a clip of John Kirby saying there was no, and I quote, chaos during the Afghan withdrawal.

01:05:01.000 Can we play that? And so for all this talk of chaos, I just didn't see it.

01:05:06.000 Not from my perch. At one point during the evacuation, there was an aircraft taking off full of people, Americans and Afghans alike, every 48 minutes.

01:05:15.000 And not one single mission was missed.

01:05:17.000 So I'm sorry, I just won't buy the whole argument of chaos.

01:05:21.000 Yeah, so Don, I'm pretty pissed off right now.

01:05:26.000 You should be, by the way.

01:05:28.000 I saw Kirby completely insult the veteran community.

01:05:35.000 He's lying openly on national TV from the White House.

01:05:42.000 And saying there was no, you know, I didn't see any chaos.

01:05:46.000 You had people falling off of airplanes.

01:05:48.000 You had, you know, you had 13 soldiers killed and another two dozen that lost limbs and hurt traumatic brain injury for the rest of their lives.

01:06:00.000 That's the definition of chaos.

01:06:03.000 Anybody who watched the Abbey Gate tape or any of the other stuff happening, not even to mention that you had the Afghan Special Forces soldiers being executed.

01:06:16.000 Yeah. By the Taliban.

01:06:18.000 That's the definition of chaos.

01:06:20.000 And for him to get up there as a Navy guy, I mean, he's been a spin doctor all his life.

01:06:25.000 He's a public affairs guy.

01:06:27.000 You know, never saw combat or any of that stuff.

01:06:29.000 And so maybe he doesn't recognize chaos, right?

01:06:32.000 But I think that, you know, A fair interpretation of his words are that they're bold-faced lies.

01:06:42.000 It's intentional to damage the veteran community. 1.00

01:06:46.000 It's because veterans are mostly, at that time, great Americans that signed up to defend the country and they figure that they're on the other team.

01:06:56.000 And this administration is 100% about you're either on our team or you're an enemy domestically.

01:07:03.000 And the president has been very clear about that.

01:07:06.000 This military, this DOD, is trying to find white nationalists within the military.

01:07:13.000 And they're trying to politically divide the military.

01:07:19.000 Well, you saw it with the vaccine mandates, right?

01:07:22.000 The operators, the SEALs.

01:07:25.000 The fighter pilots, like the most trained, you know, the people that we've spent millions of dollars turning into, like, elite people who, like, they probably lean conservative.

01:07:35.000 There's the guys that do it. They're the guys calling it out.

01:07:37.000 Like, well, we don't care.

01:07:38.000 We'll replace them with, you know, a trans seal. 1.00

01:07:40.000 Right, right. No, but it was, you know, you're watching, I'm like, oh my god, like the most fit people in the world, like, that have zero chance, well, I'm gonna say zero because statistics is basically, it would be basically zero of having any problems with COVID, but they're gonna jam the vaccine mandates down their throat, and if they resist, That's the flag that, hey, they're probably conservative.

01:08:01.000 And we're going to do what we can to make sure that they don't have any promotion.

01:08:04.000 We don't see. We saw the same thing happen in the FBI. If you actually, the agents that come up to me and say, hey, it's disgusting what's going on.

01:08:11.000 And the bureaucrats, we hate it.

01:08:13.000 But they also know if they say anything, they're done.

01:08:16.000 If they're not gone, their employment and their career is stalled out in perpetuity.

01:08:22.000 I have someone very close to me.

01:08:24.000 I'm not going to say who it is because it'll be further reprisals.

01:08:27.000 But in the military, didn't take the vaccine, you know, and has been reprised against time and time and time again.

01:08:38.000 He's had career opportunities taken away from him, promotions taken away from him, training that he must have to get promoted taken away from him.

01:08:47.000 All the while, the Army policy or military policy is that none of that will happen.

01:08:54.000 But at the local level, this wokeism creeps down and it has a very real impact on individuals that just want to serve the country.

01:09:01.000 And you can't have that any kind of dissent.

01:09:06.000 Within the ranks. You can't have people thinking about, well, maybe one day I want to start a family, and I'm not so sure about this vaccine.

01:09:13.000 Yeah. Well, so, I mean, we're talking about Kirby, and, like, we also have Kirby and, you know, Millie talking about the Afghan withdrawal, saying that the Taliban, the Taliban troops would not be able to overwhelm, you know, the Afghan fighting forces.

01:09:31.000 Again, I didn't serve, so perhaps I have no commentary. 0.97

01:09:33.000 Let's just assume I know jack shit about Afghanistan, which is fine. 1.00

01:09:38.000 It didn't take a lot to understand that. 0.99

01:09:40.000 It feels like everyone I know that was on the ground there was like, no, man, it was a clown show.

01:09:44.000 It doesn't mean there weren't some guys that could fight.

01:09:47.000 I'm not saying that. But, like, there was no way that they were going to band together and actually be able to fight without us being there backstopping it.

01:09:55.000 And yet, you know, they said that to us with a straight face.

01:09:58.000 This comes, you know, directly from the Pentagon.

01:10:01.000 Mm-hmm. I mean, are they just flagrantly lying to us at this point?

01:10:06.000 I believe they are. I think it's all part of this state message, this propaganda that has to come out.

01:10:13.000 You cannot break the narrative.

01:10:15.000 The reason that nobody's been held accountable, there's been no head roll, For this is because you can't break the narrative.

01:10:21.000 Everybody did great. Let's promote this guy.

01:10:24.000 Let's give this guy... It's like participation, you know, metal culture has even pervaded now the military.

01:10:31.000 If they fired the utterly incompetent General McKenzie from CENTCOM, who oversaw a lot of this and laughed on TV when asked a question about, you know, the dead soldiers, That would have broken the narrative that something had gone wrong and so it's a hermetically sealed narrative and the reason you can't have an honest vetting is because any probe of this from any direction, it was a cluster from Jump Street and it will tear apart the narrative.

01:11:06.000 But you spoke about the recruitment crisis and it's very real.

01:11:12.000 If that's the case and that's the mentality, how do you ever solve?

01:11:16.000 Meaning, I don't see any solutions that are realistic.

01:11:21.000 So what has to happen?

01:11:23.000 We need a new president.

01:11:25.000 We need your father to become president.

01:11:26.000 Okay, but fine. I agree.

01:11:28.000 But even then, right?

01:11:30.000 I mean, you were there. How much and how active was DOD, the Department of Defense, in preventing my father from doing the things that he wanted to do?

01:11:42.000 I know there are plenty of things, and plenty of guys have been like, listen, they tried slow rolling on this.

01:11:46.000 Ronnie Jackson spoke about the trans initiative and combating it and how insane it was. 1.00

01:11:52.000 And again, you can be accepted of someone, what they want to do as an adult, but maybe don't give someone jacked up on meds and someone who was rated Clinically insane a couple short years ago by these same woke medical institutions that now have magically reversed that for no real reason other than that's popular culture these days.

01:12:12.000 But DOD... We're very active in slow rolling anything that they didn't want to do, and maybe they didn't, oh, oh, I didn't realize that.

01:12:21.000 That's what you want. You didn't realize it?

01:12:23.000 Like, we had the conversation six times.

01:12:24.000 It's like, another week goes by.

01:12:25.000 Another week goes by. We'll pass it to an underling.

01:12:27.000 They'll slow roll. So, I got so much to say about this, Don.

01:12:31.000 I appreciate the question.

01:12:33.000 The establishment, when your father won, you know, who didn't support your father, jumped across the threshold and said, okay, great jobs for all of us, right?

01:12:42.000 And so, good people that supported your father, you know, I've been Secretary of Transportation within the state of North Carolina, working for a governor, and I understand And, of course, working for your father.

01:12:53.000 How important it is to have people that are aligned with the vision that you have for the America First vision for the country.

01:13:01.000 What happened is some of these people got in these jobs and they didn't agree with the president.

01:13:08.000 And so they began...

01:13:10.000 Unelected bureaucrats. Unelected bureaucrats. 1.00

01:13:12.000 And this book, Total Empire, is all about that Operator versus unelected bureaucrat, telling them what to do, tension.

01:13:21.000 But at the end of the day, what we had, a good example is when I came, I came in in the last year of your father's administration, and I had helped in North Carolina in 2016.

01:13:31.000 Well, and they also tried to slow roll you, and they tried to prevent you from getting any kind of thing, and eventually they had to sort of put you in as acting because the bureaucrats wouldn't Confirm.

01:13:41.000 Right, right. You know, it doesn't matter if you led the 101st Airborne or the 82nd Airborne or the 10th Mountain Division and served there for 30 years.

01:13:48.000 Like, none of that matters.

01:13:49.000 Like, he actually agrees with Trump.

01:13:51.000 Therefore, maybe he'd be effective.

01:13:54.000 And therefore, we must do whatever we can to subvert Anthony, Tatis, You know, nominations or his ability to access the president or anything, right?

01:14:05.000 Let's define him by his worst moment instead of all the great moments that he's had in his life.

01:14:09.000 And that's where we are in this culture today.

01:14:11.000 But, you know, when I finally did get in there, I was brought this document to sign.

01:14:19.000 And I'm reading this document, and it was about the Iran nuclear deal.

01:14:24.000 And as I read it, I called the team in and I said, this leaves open a path to doing the Iran nuclear deal.

01:14:31.000 Oh, that's right, sir. I'm like, the president has said we don't want the Iran nuclear deal, that it's done.

01:14:36.000 We disagree. And they're like, yeah, but we need to have this.

01:14:42.000 I'm like, no, we don't.

01:14:44.000 Rewrite this and make it say that this thing is over, that this is done.

01:14:48.000 That's a good example.

01:14:49.000 And these were senior officials, assistant secretaries of defense, that reported to me.

01:14:55.000 And I'm like...

01:14:57.000 Jesus, this is what's happening in DOD. It's literally that bureaucracy, which trends liberal anyway, the fact that they had the hutzpah to think that they had the power, the authority to do their own foreign policy, Correct.

01:15:21.000 Counter to what your father, President Trump, wanted done.

01:15:25.000 And he had exactly the right instincts on all of this stuff.

01:15:30.000 And so it's crazy to me that we got as much done as we did.

01:15:36.000 I always say that.

01:15:37.000 I'm like, listen, you look at his accomplishments, you gotta understand, it wasn't just like Republican versus Democrat.

01:15:46.000 people supposedly on our side because again, you know, once Trump is gone, it's going to

01:15:50.000 go back to the regular bureaucracy and I can't, you know, I got to keep my toes in both pools.

01:15:57.000 And so that was very clear.

01:15:58.000 And maybe that's perhaps the most powerful aspect of Trump 2024, which is like, he's

01:16:02.000 not trying to get reelected.

01:16:05.000 There's one four-year term to just to burn it all down to the ground. 0.99

01:16:08.000 And I think you almost have to do that if you ever want to get rid of the woke shit in the military to eventually meet your recruiting requirements. 1.00

01:16:16.000 If you want to actually be, you know, a threat to China rather than like, you know, they're watching us like laughing. 0.98

01:16:23.000 I mean, it's literally, we're a caricature of ourselves at this point when you see the stuff that they're talking about and the things that they're out there saying that matter, even if they're only pretending, it's still lunacy.

01:16:36.000 And yet it happens.

01:16:37.000 So I want to ask you about this one. There's talk, and my father said, about using the military to go after the Mexican drug cartels.

01:16:47.000 The fentanyl crisis is as clear and present a danger to the United States as probably anything.

01:16:54.000 Certainly far more of a threat than Russia. 0.92

01:16:57.000 Meaning, unless we instigate them into nuclear war.

01:17:00.000 But if we weren't doing that, yes, they have a big nuclear arsenal.

01:17:03.000 It's not killing tens of thousands of Americans every year.

01:17:06.000 You know, what are your thoughts on that?

01:17:08.000 And how do you do it?

01:17:10.000 Because even talking about it and, you know, the D.C., oh my God, it's a sovereign nation.

01:17:15.000 Like, these are people killing, you know, these are people literally killing and maiming our children daily, making billions.

01:17:23.000 Right. They've subverted their own governments. 1.00

01:17:26.000 They're going after Mexican police forces and their own military.

01:17:32.000 I mean, there's a way to do this without invading a sovereign nation.

01:17:35.000 Right. Come on, man.

01:17:37.000 Well, they could be a partner.

01:17:39.000 We could have DHS, DOD, and the Mexican versions of those two entities working together jointly on the border like we do any border operation.

01:17:48.000 I've run border operations in Mexico.

01:17:50.000 Kosovo and Afghanistan.

01:17:53.000 You pick the third world country that I've been deployed to.

01:17:56.000 You've got to work with the other governments.

01:17:58.000 And it's border operations...

01:18:00.000 Does that still work in Mexico, though?

01:18:02.000 Meaning, you know, obviously the cartels, everyone's on the payroll, right?

01:18:06.000 Right. Well, you know, is there a level where...

01:18:13.000 Is it past the brink down there where the real de facto rulers of the country are actually the cartels?

01:18:19.000 So you can work with the military, but it's not going to really be effective because someone's going to be giving the information to someone.

01:18:27.000 I mean, does there come a point where you're going to say, Guys, you've got to let us do what we're going to do.

01:18:32.000 We're going to help you.

01:18:34.000 And if they say no, doesn't it tell you everything you need to know?

01:18:37.000 It does tell you everything you need to know.

01:18:39.000 And I think the way you approach it is like any counterinsurgency.

01:18:44.000 Your intelligence has to inform your actions.

01:18:47.000 You make very good points in like how deep is the corruption?

01:18:50.000 Is the president corrupt?

01:18:52.000 Are the generals in the military tied to the cartels?

01:18:56.000 What do we actually know?

01:18:57.000 How do we build that sort of spiderweb diagram of that link diagram of who's connected to who?

01:19:03.000 And then who are the high value targets that we need?

01:19:06.000 It's like Al Qaeda or whatever.

01:19:08.000 Who are the high value targets that we need to take out of the picture and begin some surgical joint operations with You know, some sequestered Mexican Special Forces and U.S. Special Forces and go in there with the right kind of support to do the job and begin to show the cartel that there's actually a new sheriff in town.

01:19:33.000 Interesting. I mean, does the same apply elsewhere around the world as we start seeing these things?

01:19:41.000 You know, obviously that threat of the cartel is so important.

01:19:45.000 And, you know, again, I'm like the last person wanting to wage sort of the never-ending wars, but that one actually feels like one that's worth fighting for.

01:19:52.000 I mean, talk about sort of U.S. foreign policy, because it's sort of interesting.

01:19:57.000 You know, Trump was the guy that was going to start World War III, and Trump was going to get us into all these conflicts, and it was going to be nuclear Armageddon because of Donald Trump, and yet...

01:20:05.000 He's like the only guy out there with a platform that's actually being like, I don't want any wars.

01:20:09.000 And if we are going to get into a war, let there be an objective.

01:20:12.000 At least the drug cartel one, I'm like, yeah, that's a war that sort of makes sense.

01:20:17.000 It's actually going to save Americans, which doesn't seem to be the end result of 99% of what we're doing militarily these days.

01:20:24.000 Yeah, so think about—let's just pick North Korea, for example.

01:20:30.000 Your father comes in.

01:20:32.000 They've been testing nukes under Obama.

01:20:36.000 They tested one under your father, and he began the information campaign with a little rocket man.

01:20:42.000 Got a meeting, stepped into North Korea, all of that.

01:20:48.000 Whatever your dad did, he was going to be criticized, right?

01:20:51.000 But the genius of that was he developed an open line of communication with Kim Jong-un, who had been a black box up until that point, essentially.

01:21:03.000 And the human-to-human contact, I don't care who it is.

01:21:09.000 It's easy to, you know, argue with somebody's online avatar, but it's hard to sit down in person.

01:21:16.000 And this is my criticism. I'm blanking and not getting in there with Putin or Biden.

01:21:21.000 Your father understood the importance of transparency between nations that could potentially go to war.

01:21:27.000 And so whether it was the Helsinki meeting or with Putin or meeting with Kim Jong-un, your father under Xi down in Palm Beach, he understood the importance of that dialogue and he has great instincts and ability to make that connection.

01:21:48.000 And of course, it all gets reinterpreted by the 98% of the press that hates him, right?

01:21:53.000 Oh, yeah. Listen, I remember that as it was going on.

01:21:57.000 Trump's doing it all wrong in North Korea.

01:21:59.000 I go, well, why? They never tested another nuke.

01:22:03.000 I've been leading the delegation for 27 years, and I'm like, well, what have you accomplished?

01:22:09.000 Right, right. How dare you?

01:22:12.000 Have you had a meeting with the guy?

01:22:19.000 So you've been doing the same thing for 27, whatever the hell it was, 40 years.

01:22:24.000 You've achieved nothing.

01:22:26.000 No objective success.

01:22:28.000 And someone comes in and changes that playbook and he's doing it all wrong.

01:22:31.000 It's like I'd argue that you've been doing it all wrong.

01:22:33.000 In D.C. it's easy to become an expert and remain an expert even if you're wrong for 30 years.

01:22:39.000 We've got to break that. The key point that you point out is the guy's been doing it for 27 years.

01:22:44.000 He's had the power, the access, the money, the influence, and he loves that.

01:22:49.000 That's all he cares about. 0.99

01:22:50.000 He's invited to the cocktail party and someone kisses his ass because they think he's got some power in North Korea, whereas North Korea's never even heard of the clown. 1.00

01:22:57.000 That's the unelected bureaucrat piece. 1.00

01:23:00.000 You know, those perks, that largesse is what they thrive off of. 0.97

01:23:04.000 It doesn't matter what happens or whether or not they actually accomplish something.

01:23:07.000 As long as they maintain that status, that's what they care about for the most part.

01:23:12.000 Yeah. So, I mean, talk about that a little bit, right?

01:23:14.000 Joe Biden has been mocked in Washington, D.C. for decades in terms of being like Robert Gates, like Obama's own guy.

01:23:23.000 During the election, I was like, listen, Joe Biden's been wrong on literally every single foreign policy issue in the history of his hundreds of years in Washington, D.C. I wrote about it actually in my book, Liberal Privilege, because it's so flagrant.

01:23:39.000 And yet... Now we're soft on China, and no one seems to be saying anything about it.

01:23:45.000 Where can these policies go?

01:23:47.000 How do we change that aspect?

01:23:49.000 Because it seems like it's the perfect confluence of incompetence and corruption.

01:23:56.000 And if you follow the money, They'd be pretty clear.

01:24:01.000 I know if it was me, you know, as a Biden, doing the things that Hunter did and my family doing the things that the Biden family did, because it's not just Hunter, there'd be a problem.

01:24:11.000 And people would be asking the question and they'd be talking about it.

01:24:13.000 And yet there's crickets from...

01:24:15.000 Yeah, we'd be raided right now if you had done what Hunter did.

01:24:19.000 I mean, it's insane. You know, you look at your family and everybody, upstanding citizen, you know, great, great Americans.

01:24:27.000 You look at what's happened with Hunter There's some real issues there, and I'm interested in Comer's investigation that's happening in the House.

01:24:38.000 I'm hoping that it bears some fruit.

01:24:40.000 I'm hoping that... Well, it's there.

01:24:42.000 It's a question of whether the Republicans will push it hard enough.

01:24:45.000 Will they allow themselves to be slow-rolled?

01:24:48.000 They're hoping, you know, hey, we can drag this out another 18 months and we'll be in an election cycle.

01:24:52.000 Maybe we get back to the House and we don't have to answer any of these questions or follow up on any of these...

01:24:56.000 We don't play the way they play.

01:24:58.000 Exactly. And I'm wondering if McCarthy is going to impeach Biden over this issue, which is very impeachable.

01:25:06.000 They've got to get the right issue.

01:25:08.000 And I think McCarthy needs to live up to his promise that he's going to take it to the president.

01:25:14.000 And until we start...

01:25:17.000 Fighting back that way because we get our jockstrap handed to us every single time on these kinds of issues.

01:25:24.000 And it's...

01:25:26.000 Yeah, by the way, we'd actually end a lot of the problems, you know, like that, if the left actually thought we had the teeth.

01:25:34.000 Exactly. Right? I mean, if they actually thought we would do these things and do the, whether it's like my father's indictment this last week, right?

01:25:41.000 Right, right. Any of these things, if they actually thought we'd play the same game...

01:25:46.000 Right. I think it would prevent like the vast majority of it. Right. You know even though you know understand

01:25:51.000 they got the help of big tech and they got the bias from there and that bias from the mainstream. Fine.

01:25:55.000 But if they actually thought that like Republicans would fight back with teeth it would probably

01:25:59.000 end 99% of the nonsense. But as long as like, you know, we're playing t-ball

01:26:04.000 while they're playing fast pitch hardball It's sort of like of course they're gonna keep doing it.

01:26:11.000 Yeah.

01:26:11.000 Of course they're going to take the win.

01:26:13.000 Why wouldn't they? These aren't principled people.

01:26:16.000 They're communists. Of course they're going to do this.

01:26:18.000 It's all about power. Initially, when I was watching McCarthy being put through the wringer there on the multiple votes, I was like, come on, we've got to show some teamwork.

01:26:28.000 And then about the fifth time, I really looked at it, and I'm like, you know what?

01:26:32.000 We need to make sure that he's going to do what he says he's going to do.

01:26:37.000 But listen, balls and strikes, I think he's actually doing a lot of that now.

01:26:41.000 I agree. Now, we've got to see it.

01:26:43.000 And again, it's not just one guy, right?

01:26:46.000 We do have to exercise the power of the purse because we have powers that we don't have.

01:26:50.000 We have a four-seat majority in Congress.

01:26:51.000 We don't have the Senate. We don't have the White House.

01:26:53.000 We're not passing lots of legislation right now.

01:26:55.000 But we can function as a blocker to a lot of the insanity.

01:26:59.000 We can use that subpoena power.

01:27:01.000 And so you also need the other Republicans to be willing to go along with it.

01:27:05.000 And again, there's... Probably no one better snatching defeat from the jaws of victory than a Republican that gets harassed by the mainstream Washington D.C. press who's functioning as the marketing department of the other side.

01:27:18.000 But it's an easy existence to be a weak Republican in D.C. It's not so easy if you're actually a fighter.

01:27:23.000 Right, exactly. You keep your job, you got that power, you got that supposed influence, but if you're a fighter, they come after you.

01:27:30.000 I mean, you know, two and a half years ago, whatever it was, they came after me.

01:27:35.000 Talk about that. Here I am, Don, a public servant all my life, 28-year career in the military, I had all the right jobs to do the undersecretary policy job.

01:27:47.000 I then, being the public servant I am, got out and I was the chief operating officer at Washington DC Public Schools, one of our most troubled school systems, because I wanted to help the underserved community.

01:27:59.000 You have about 78% of that community that is low income.

01:28:04.000 I did that for two years, got recruited by Wake County Public School System, the 15th largest system in the country, 150,000 students, 18,000 employees, 170 schools, to come be their superintendent.

01:28:18.000 From a career standpoint, that was the epitome of my life.

01:28:24.000 I was able to Take all my military training, all my leadership training, and then come in and lead from the front as I always did in combat and go into every classroom, go into every school.

01:28:38.000 I was in all 170 schools in the first 180 school days of the year.

01:28:42.000 And I was a present figure and we made significant changes.

01:28:46.000 I can walk down the streets of Raleigh today, people stop me and say, Mr.

01:28:50.000 Tata, thank you for creating that leadership school for young men.

01:28:53.000 Thank you for creating that leadership school for young women.

01:28:56.000 I got a text the other day.

01:28:58.000 The leadership academies that we created that have a public service curriculum Scored ten points higher than any other school in the state of North Carolina on proficiency and graduation rates and and so the change that you can make in education despite all of the you know liberal agendas being infused in there are huge and so that was and then the governor appointed me as the Secretary of Transportation but what happened in the school system The board flipped from 5-4 Republican to 5-4 Democrat.

01:29:35.000 Six months later, after campaigning that they loved me, the Democrats, because I was popular in the community.

01:29:43.000 I had an 82% approval rate.

01:29:45.000 That's unheard of in politics. And I didn't poll myself.

01:29:49.000 That was WRAL poll and Triangle Business Journal.

01:29:53.000 And so they exercise a buyout clause.

01:29:59.000 And I had just done a state of the school speech.

01:30:02.000 We had the best year in the history of Wake County Public Schools.

01:30:06.000 Democrats didn't care about the students.

01:30:11.000 What they cared about was a rising political conservative In academia, yeah.

01:30:18.000 I was a registered independent because I understood I needed to be straddling fence.

01:30:24.000 I stopped all my Fox News, CNN stuff, and I was doing about equal amount of both.

01:30:29.000 But of course, I said, oh, Tate is a Fox News guy.

01:30:31.000 And I shut down.

01:30:33.000 I stopped writing. And You know, I dedicated myself to this.

01:30:38.000 And they had to get rid of me because I was becoming too popular.

01:30:43.000 And so the governor makes me the Secretary of Transportation Which I got all over the state, had a $4 billion budget, and we made very positive changes in two and a half years. 0.92

01:30:55.000 And I look at this guy, Buttigieg, and I'm like, this clown has no idea.

01:31:00.000 You know, we have these supply chain issues. 0.97

01:31:02.000 He's a checkbox.

01:31:04.000 Yeah, he's a box check. Like, hey, we got to give him that.

01:31:06.000 It's why he got to run for president.

01:31:08.000 It's not like he had actual accomplishments that he could really run on.

01:31:11.000 Like, that guy's going to be president? Of course he is, because he checks a couple of boxes, but that's about the extent of it.

01:31:18.000 So then you go and you start working in Trump, and then they're going to just go all out.

01:31:22.000 So I have this resume for military, education, transportation, understanding the holistic nature of our society, and I get asked three years into it to come work for your father.

01:31:40.000 Instantly, it was just like, let's rip this guy to shreds.

01:31:44.000 And your dad told me. 0.93

01:31:47.000 Oh, he knew. He was like, hey, listen.

01:31:49.000 You've seen combat.

01:31:50.000 You may see something slightly worse, amazingly enough.

01:31:52.000 But, you know, your father stood by me.

01:31:55.000 And I went in in mid-December after the election.

01:31:59.000 And I just went into the Oval Office and sat down with him.

01:32:01.000 I said, you know, thank you so much.

01:32:03.000 So talk about it. Any standout moments?

01:32:06.000 I mean, obviously that's one of them, right?

01:32:08.000 Well, you know, when I interviewed for the job, it was me, your father behind the Resolute desk, Mark Esper and Robert O'Brien, and then John McEntee in the Oval Office.

01:32:22.000 30-45 minutes of question.

01:32:25.000 Your father walking me around the world asking me very detailed questions about what my policy position might be.

01:32:32.000 And of course, I had been commentating on TV for three years.

01:32:39.000 Fairly consistently. And I believe in the America First agenda.

01:32:44.000 I believe in what your father was trying to do for us from a foreign policy

01:32:48.000 perspective and domestically, but you know my role being defense and you know

01:32:54.000 I was able to have a really good conversation with him.

01:32:58.000 His level of detail and ability to educate me was very impressive.

01:33:06.000 He understood Everything about the questions he was asking, and we actually had a conversation about it.

01:33:12.000 And at the end, he turns to Mark Esper and says, you know, if you don't make him undersecretary, I'm gonna, you know, make him ambassador.

01:33:22.000 And I'm like, You know, it was kind of a hitty moment to be in the Oval Office with your father.

01:33:29.000 And every interaction I've had with President Trump, he's been nothing but a gentleman, nothing but respectful.

01:33:37.000 All the stuff I see out there...

01:33:39.000 Yeah, careful, you're going to destroy his reputation.

01:33:41.000 Yeah, right. That's what they're...

01:33:43.000 Yeah, they'll tell you the opposite all day long.

01:33:45.000 And I guess with anything else that we've been watching for the last few...

01:33:49.000 You should probably understand what they're telling you is probably inaccurate.

01:33:53.000 Not just exaggerated, oftentimes exactly the opposite.

01:33:56.000 Exactly the opposite, that's what I was going to say.

01:33:58.000 So how did you get into writing?

01:34:00.000 That's an interesting one.

01:34:02.000 So Don, Total Empire is my 15th book.

01:34:07.000 As a kid, I was a jock.

01:34:09.000 I was a decent student.

01:34:11.000 And my dad, I was 12, he says, and my dad was a high school football coach.

01:34:15.000 Both my parents were teachers.

01:34:16.000 And he says, so kid, what do you want to be when you grow up?

01:34:19.000 I said, I want to be a fiction novelist.

01:34:20.000 You know, I used to read all the time.

01:34:22.000 He says, you got to put food on the table, you know.

01:34:25.000 And he's the son of an Italian immigrant bricklayer, right?

01:34:31.000 So, I just started writing.

01:34:33.000 It was one of these things. I was a big reader and I said, why am I consuming entertainment when I could be producing entertainment?

01:34:40.000 And it was kind of this epiphany moment.

01:34:42.000 I was watching TV when I was a young lieutenant in the army and I'm like, I always said I wanted to be a As a writer, why am I just sitting here watching TV? Why don't I produce entertainment?

01:34:54.000 So when did you start that?

01:34:55.000 Mid-90s.

01:34:58.000 My first book is not even published.

01:35:01.000 I never even submitted it.

01:35:04.000 So I had like three books by about 2007.

01:35:10.000 I just was very private about it.

01:35:11.000 It was a way of me releasing stress and escaping into a different world.

01:35:16.000 Some people play guitar, some people go woodwork in their garage.

01:35:20.000 I would go right as a way of just processing.

01:35:24.000 In 2008, a Delta Force friend of mine, quick story, I had come back from Bosnia.

01:35:33.000 I was crashing at his house before taking command in the 82nd Airborne and I had a floppy disk and this is 97 and it was going bad and so I had to save it on his computer in the room I was staying in at his house.

01:35:47.000 Rob Hobart's his name, great American.

01:35:49.000 And the title of the book was Rogue Threat and So I go away for like two days of training and I come back and I have a new floppy disk and I'm going to download it from the thing, but it's not there.

01:36:03.000 It's not on the hard drive.

01:36:04.000 I'm like, hey Rob, did you delete some stuff?

01:36:06.000 He goes, yeah, I found this virus called Rogue Threat and I deleted it.

01:36:12.000 I was concerned it was going to mess up my computer.

01:36:15.000 Rob, that was a book I was writing.

01:36:17.000 You know, I had added like 40 pages since I'd been there.

01:36:20.000 And you know the deal, like 40 pages.

01:36:21.000 And that was the day where, like, there wasn't real backup.

01:36:24.000 There wasn't backing up on the clips simultaneously. 0.84

01:36:28.000 If you lost that this, you were shit out of luck. 0.87

01:36:30.000 There's nothing else. Unfortunately, I remember this. 0.98

01:36:33.000 I hope he's messing with you.

01:36:35.000 No, he wasn't. He wasn't even messing with you.

01:36:38.000 Oh, God. This wasn't like a great troll.

01:36:40.000 I said, Rob, that was a book I was writing. 0.94

01:36:43.000 He gets ashen. And so fast forward a few years, and he retires, and he's on an airplane, and he's sitting next to a guy named Brad Thor.

01:36:51.000 Brad is a big thriller writer in this industry.

01:36:55.000 And a light bulb goes off in Rob's head.

01:36:58.000 He calls me and he says, I have a path to redemption.

01:37:02.000 I'm going to introduce you over dinner in Chicago to Brad Thor.

01:37:05.000 You've got to get your boat up to Chicago.

01:37:07.000 And the rest is history. Brad connected me to a publisher and they took the three books I had.

01:37:13.000 And now I'm with St.

01:37:14.000 Martin's Press, which is massive.

01:37:17.000 And one of the things that I often think about is like, My editor, Mark Resnick, is an awesome guy.

01:37:25.000 The team at St. Martin's is awesome.

01:37:29.000 Who is the view or the book promotion people?

01:37:37.000 I really appreciate you having me on.

01:37:40.000 To talk about foreign policy, you can see how passionate I am about our even school systems and about my writing career because it's so important.

01:37:48.000 Well, it's interesting because I'd be curious actually, you know, writing fiction versus nonfiction.

01:37:52.000 I wrote a New York Times bestseller myself, you know, it's called Triggered, you know, published that and then You know, you started getting in that world and guys coming up to me like, wow, you're like the most, like, we spent more time with you than any writer.

01:38:04.000 I'm like, what do you mean? You're like, well, a lot of the books of people writing their books, like they speak to someone for a couple hours and like literally we hand them a book, they sign off on it and maybe do a book tour.

01:38:14.000 And so it was interesting. But I also started seeing, you know, in my world and sort of, you know, nonfiction, writing about politics, I'm very biased in publishing.

01:38:24.000 I have friends that are congressmen and senators and other pundits who had books either canceled or just so whitewashed down by liberal editors.

01:38:35.000 I actually started my own publishing company, publishing books of some of those same people that were so censored.

01:38:40.000 I have people where they bought the book Paid the upfront and just wouldn't publish the book.

01:38:46.000 They'd say, hey, we'll take the loss. We're not going to put this out there.

01:38:48.000 And this wasn't like crazy, you know, stuff.

01:38:50.000 This was like mainstream conservative thought.

01:38:52.000 And so, you know, it's interesting.

01:38:53.000 So it's good to see that maybe, you know, someone like yourself hasn't necessarily been affected like that as long as you're still writing, you know, fiction.

01:39:01.000 Yeah. So it's interesting.

01:39:03.000 The team at St. Martin's, Mark Resnick and his staff, my editor, 100% support it.

01:39:11.000 Gave me a new deal after I left the administration.

01:39:16.000 They have been nothing, Macmillan, St.

01:39:19.000 Martins Press, nothing but supportive of me.

01:39:22.000 Where it gets a little dicey is on the film and TV side.

01:39:26.000 I had a lot of people And that's where the real money is, right?

01:39:32.000 Publishing a book is fine, you can do it okay, but it's not like...

01:39:35.000 I have nothing but good stuff to say about Macmillan and Sam Martins.

01:39:43.000 I've been sort of in the mill with four or five different producers, filmmakers, and all that, and the deal's just kind of once...

01:39:53.000 Once I got into the mall.

01:39:55.000 Once they Google you. Google does its thing.

01:39:58.000 You're the worst human being in the world. 1.00

01:40:00.000 You're a conspiracy theorist. 0.92

01:40:01.000 And so my question is, we have Amanda Milius and we have some others, but where is the conservative Hollywood? 0.99

01:40:07.000 How are we going to, as half the country, going to support our own?

01:40:18.000 I've almost given up and yet you see Top Gun Maverick.

01:40:23.000 It sells more than any movie combined.

01:40:26.000 There was another movie that I didn't even see.

01:40:27.000 I almost refused to give my business either way at this point, but I did see Top Gun Maverick and that was great.

01:40:33.000 It still had some of the woke stuff, but it wasn't so bad it was jammed down your throat.

01:40:38.000 Exactly. There's clear casting decisions like that that probably are an exemplary, but whatever.

01:40:44.000 I thought it was great. And so did the rest of America.

01:40:48.000 So hopefully they just learn that eventually they got to do it.

01:40:50.000 I just hope it's not, you know, like so much of woke corporate, which is like, okay, you can be this way.

01:40:55.000 We're happy to take your money, and then we're going to take your money and use it to push an agenda that you couldn't stand for people who hate your guts.

01:41:04.000 There's a happy medium. I'm not sure it's happening in Hollywood yet.

01:41:07.000 Like I said, they always tell us to build our own.

01:41:09.000 That's why I started winning team publishing.

01:41:11.000 Publishing Marjorie Taylor Greene's book.

01:41:13.000 Publishing Carrie Lake's book.

01:41:15.000 Judge Jeanine. My father's stuff.

01:41:17.000 Because it'd be hard to get it done any other way.

01:41:20.000 And so we've got to do that.

01:41:22.000 So hopefully there's someone that can Hollywood's a big one to crack.

01:41:26.000 Publishing is, but when you have sort of a platform to be able to push it, perhaps a little bit easier.

01:41:31.000 It's a much smaller beast. So hopefully someone approaches that and attacks it the same way and we can get that fair shot.

01:41:38.000 But we ain't getting it from Hollywood currently, so I do my best to not support them.

01:41:44.000 Well, you know, Total Empire to me is, you know, it's the second book in a series.

01:41:50.000 You've got General Garrett Sinclair, who represents all the patriotic values in America, and he leads Dagger Task Force, which is responsive to the president, and has to go on a mission to find his goddaughter in Morocco and Mauritania, Africa. After her father was killed, who happens to be a sergeant major.

01:42:11.000 And it pits an operator against the unelected bureaucrats.

01:42:17.000 And it's the theme of kind of what we've been talking about in that the operators on the ground, where my heart really is, And the people that want to employ the 8,000-mile screwdriver to micromanage, to protect their own careers.

01:42:33.000 It has nothing to do with the troops on the ground.

01:42:35.000 And that's really the essence of the story.

01:42:40.000 And Chasing the Lion was the first book in the series.

01:42:43.000 And it's, you know, Garrett Sinclair, Fort Bragg-based, and his team.

01:42:51.000 I enjoy this process of writing and creating.

01:42:56.000 I just turned in book three in the series to Mark Resnick, my editor at St.

01:43:01.000 Martin's. Writing to me is a great creative endeavor.

01:43:07.000 I love that. Well guys, Go check it out.

01:43:09.000 I assume available where everything's available?

01:43:12.000 Yeah. Audio, Kindle, ebook, hardcover, Amazon, Barnes and Noble, any bookstore in the world.

01:43:21.000 General, thank you very much.

01:43:23.000 Thank you so much. Guys, go check out the book.

01:43:26.000 I think you'll like it.

01:43:27.000 It's just awesome to see that there's still people like you that exist that are willing to speak out.

01:43:32.000 Because again, I know there's plenty of you that exist that have the military background or are upset with what's going on.

01:43:38.000 There's far fewer that are willing to speak out.

01:43:41.000 So thank you very much, guys.

01:43:43.000 Appreciate you. Go check out the books again, and we'll have to talk again as we approach closer and closer to the brink of war every day.

01:43:52.000 It sounds crazy, but unfortunately we've got to do it.

01:43:56.000 We'll have you back.

01:43:57.000 Thank you very much, Adam. Thanks, Don.

01:43:58.000 Appreciate it. Guys, thank you.

01:44:00.000 Again, I hope you had an awesome Easter weekend.

01:44:03.000 I'm not going to be able to do locals tonight, unfortunately.

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01:45:54.000 You guys are the best. I hope you all had an incredible Easter weekend celebrating our holiest holidays with your families.

01:46:04.000 That's number one, so I hope that was awesome, and we'll see you back here again on Thursday.

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