Triggered - Donald Trump Jr - RISING GOP STAR REP BYRON DONALDS IS GROWING THE MAGA MOVEMENT | TRIGGERED Ep.54

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00:09:04.000 Well, with that, I think we leave that in there because I think it's right.

00:09:07.000 Guys, we're here with Congressman Byron Donalds of Florida.

00:09:11.000 And, yeah, we've seen some of that.

00:09:12.000 I mean, we saw some of that last week.

00:09:16.000 Now, in the presidential debates with Tucker Carlson where it felt like the cameras went on, questions were asked, and careers were ended in seconds.

00:09:25.000 Listen, I gotta tell you, in politics, the funniest thing has come through what I think has been a true renaissance in media.

00:09:33.000 Not big media, because they're a joke and they're a mess.

00:09:35.000 I'm talking about all the different outlets, all the different voices.

00:09:39.000 Tucker is the most prominent of them all, but you got Joe Rogan, who's in this podcasting space where he's so dominant, and some people listen to him because he's not politics, he's not news, he's culture, he's life.

00:09:51.000 It's interesting people want to consume.

00:09:53.000 Yeah, and he's questioning both sides. Yes.

00:09:54.000 The dogma of both sides.

00:09:57.000 Obviously, from where I stand, I'm perhaps more one way on that than others, but I think it's actually still important to have that dialogue.

00:10:05.000 And that feels like it's missing everywhere.

00:10:06.000 I mean, it's missing in academia.

00:10:08.000 It's missing in politics until recently because of guys like that, because of alternate sources.

00:10:14.000 I mean, you see it sort of with even the mentality, kind of uniparty mentality of mainstream conservative.

00:10:21.000 We'll go somewhere, but we're not going to go there, but let's have that conversation.

00:10:24.000 So how do you think that's changing?

00:10:27.000 I think it's changing because there's just way more authenticity coming into politics.

00:10:31.000 I think you're having a breed of individuals who have done something in the world.

00:10:36.000 They failed, they won, whatever.

00:10:40.000 And they look at the country and say, I'm going in.

00:10:42.000 I think the second thing is they're not trying to go in forever.

00:10:45.000 And I think that's a very important thing because, look, I'm going to talk about me for a moment.

00:10:50.000 I've told my district, look, you got 10 years out of me.

00:10:53.000 However this thing works, however the ride goes, don't know.

00:10:56.000 You can't predict politics.

00:10:58.000 And I get it. People all have their visions of the future and what they want to see me do or whatever.

00:11:04.000 But you can't predict politics.

00:11:05.000 You do your job.

00:11:07.000 You see what's in front of you.

00:11:08.000 You climb that hill and you try to conquer it.

00:11:10.000 You have more mindsets like that in Congress and in politics now than what it used to be of, I want to go, I want to be a committee chair, I want to be a speaker, I want to do this, I want to do that.

00:11:19.000 And then I'll sit there for the rest of my life.

00:11:21.000 Yes, yes. Until dementia kicks in and that won't stop me from leaving.

00:11:25.000 Yeah, I think that's changing and I think it's the best thing for the country.

00:11:28.000 And I think also... So what's your story?

00:11:29.000 I mean, you came from Crown Heights, Brooklyn.

00:11:31.000 Yeah. I mean, you're a congressman in Florida.

00:11:33.000 So how did that happen?

00:11:36.000 Sometimes I don't even know.

00:11:37.000 Look, I was a city kid.

00:11:39.000 We were poor. My mom stressed education.

00:11:41.000 I loved baseball first.

00:11:43.000 I loved basketball. Became my love.

00:11:45.000 I'm still a basketball junkie.

00:11:46.000 Loved the game. My grades were good.

00:11:49.000 I got accepted to a bunch of different colleges.

00:11:51.000 I chose Florida A&M, which was in Tallahassee.

00:11:53.000 That's how I got from New York to Florida.

00:11:56.000 Had too much fun at Florida A&M. It was a great time.

00:12:00.000 And I transferred to Florida State.

00:12:02.000 Finished my degrees at Florida State.

00:12:04.000 You know, met a girl, ended up marrying her.

00:12:06.000 We've been married 20 years. That was your boss that we heard from earlier?

00:12:08.000 She's kind of always been the boss.

00:12:10.000 Yeah, I saw that.

00:12:11.000 I was like, you get to sit up a little straighter.

00:12:13.000 And then I noticed once she left the room, you got a little bit more relaxed.

00:12:16.000 This happens a lot, actually.

00:12:18.000 But, you know, it's 23 years.

00:12:20.000 Hey, Kimberly, you're a spicy Puerto Rican woman. 1.00

00:12:21.000 I do what she says as well, so I understand.

00:12:23.000 Well, I mean, that's because you're a good man.

00:12:25.000 I'm not willing to risk my life over the way I'm sitting.

00:12:28.000 It does feel like risking it.

00:12:30.000 It's not even, yeah.

00:12:31.000 It does feel like that. But anyway, so, you know, got down, you know, she moved to Bonita Springs with her mom and I went to visit.

00:12:38.000 I'm a guy, finance degree.

00:12:40.000 9-11 had just happened.

00:12:42.000 So my choices were go back home and try to figure out my career in the aftermath of 9-11 or...

00:12:48.000 Go down here. There was a lot of uncertainty.

00:12:51.000 I graduated from Wharton in 2000.

00:12:55.000 Moved to Colorado to be a bartender, which was an incredible story.

00:12:58.000 Try to explain that one to my father.

00:13:00.000 That was less than awesome.

00:13:02.000 We might have to expound on that one off camera.

00:13:04.000 We'll come back.

00:13:06.000 I found out about 9-11.

00:13:08.000 I was coming out of the woods elk hunting. 1.00

00:13:10.000 I saw some idiot crash a Cessna into the Twin Towers. 1.00

00:13:15.000 Then it all happened. I started packing my car and drove home. 1.00

00:13:19.000 You know, that was it. So, yeah, crazy times, but you just didn't know where it was going.

00:13:24.000 No, you didn't. And so I just made a choice.

00:13:26.000 I dropped her off at our office, this Naples, and I'm like, man, there's a lot of banks and brokerage houses here.

00:13:32.000 I'm young. I think everybody here is a lot older than me.

00:13:34.000 Maybe I'll come here and get started.

00:13:35.000 And that was the decision. We got married.

00:13:38.000 We started having kids.

00:13:39.000 We're, you know, just in business.

00:13:41.000 Politics came later. This was during the financial collapse.

00:13:44.000 Yeah. Because I'm a guy who's in the financial business.

00:13:46.000 I was in banking, then I'm in insurance.

00:13:48.000 I'm in seven, eight years at this point.

00:13:50.000 The financial collapse is starting.

00:13:53.000 The owners of my company are trying to figure out, like, what's going on.

00:13:55.000 They tasked me to do it.

00:13:56.000 I started watching congressional hearings for the first time in my life.

00:14:00.000 Okay. I'm actually so glad we're going here because this was, like, the formation of a lot of my sort of political leanings.

00:14:06.000 I watched those same hearings.

00:14:08.000 I watched the testimonies, and I watched people in Congress, in positions like you have now, that did not understand the first thing about business or banking or how loans work.

00:14:22.000 It was like a soundbite for Twitter.

00:14:24.000 I think it was Dianne Feinstein or...

00:14:28.000 Maybe it was Maxine Waters questioning Lloyd Blankfein about how many home loans he made.

00:14:32.000 I was like, well, it's just not what Goldman Sachs does.

00:14:34.000 It's different. But it didn't matter.

00:14:35.000 It's like, oh, so you don't know.

00:14:36.000 I got you. It's like, I'm testifying before you.

00:14:39.000 You don't even know what I do? Like, what do you mean?

00:14:42.000 Well, let me just tell you, Maxine hasn't changed.

00:14:44.000 That's still the same way she questions. But how did she become the head of, like, a finance committee?

00:14:47.000 Because you're a banker.

00:14:48.000 That makes sense.

00:14:50.000 Yes. You saw the fall of, what was it, that bank out west, the woke bank that collapsed, and it was like, well, we have an improv actor on our board, we have this on our board.

00:15:00.000 We had everything except for, like, bankers.

00:15:03.000 And we're shocked, you know, we're like shocked.

00:15:05.000 Why is this blowing up? Yeah, like, I mean, it's great to have an improv actor.

00:15:08.000 I don't know what they know about banking and you're going to be on the board of a bank.

00:15:11.000 I think they had one banker of like a 15 member board.

00:15:13.000 Yeah. But how can Congress function that same way where these people are making, you know, trillion dollar decisions without an understanding of even the basics?

00:15:23.000 I mean, they couldn't explain to you how a mortgage worked, let alone...

00:15:26.000 You know, the more sophisticated stuff.

00:15:28.000 That's the thing that frustrated me because I was never a political person until this point in my life.

00:15:34.000 Didn't really watch the news.

00:15:36.000 I watched a little bit, but they didn't like follow it day in, day out.

00:15:38.000 I was frankly a normal person in America.

00:15:41.000 I got kids. I like sports.

00:15:42.000 I'm coaching. I got a job.

00:15:44.000 I'm trying to live in my career, do all that kind of stuff, right?

00:15:47.000 I turn these hearings on like you did and I'm like, who are these people?

00:15:51.000 They're running the country. No wonder this thing isn't working.

00:15:54.000 And so as I started watching those hearings and putting this information together, it really just pissed me off.

00:15:59.000 And that's what got me looking at politics and what was going on in the country.

00:16:04.000 Then I turned on cable news looking for answers.

00:16:06.000 And I got more mad because everything was just talking point, dogma, surface level stuff.

00:16:13.000 You never got the real meat of what's going on in an issue.

00:16:16.000 And it really caused me to start just...

00:16:18.000 I'm trying to understand political theory.

00:16:21.000 So reading Locke and Montesquieu, I went way into the weeds on that stuff.

00:16:25.000 But it was healthy, it was good, because I started to learn and understand Politics and the actual purpose of government and understanding the real basis in macroeconomic theory.

00:16:37.000 And because I'm an economics guy, I'm a finance guy, knowing how a market system is supposed to function really led my politics.

00:16:44.000 My politics came from my economics.

00:16:46.000 And then the rest just ran downhill.

00:16:49.000 Well, you seem to drive people on the left crazy because...

00:16:52.000 It's fun, isn't it? Yeah, well, listen, I... Hey, I was a real estate developer from New York City.

00:16:58.000 You know, I had my beliefs.

00:17:01.000 I was always conservative. I was always a big 2A guy.

00:17:03.000 Like, these are the things that I did. But, like, I didn't wear that on my sleeve in New York City because I understand there's a consequence to that.

00:17:08.000 You know, my first political fundraiser was for Andrew Cuomo.

00:17:13.000 Not because I'm a Democrat, but because he was running for attorney general.

00:17:16.000 He was going to win. And, like, if you're a real estate developer, that's the guy that signs your offering plan that allows you to sign it.

00:17:22.000 So if you could have him...

00:17:23.000 You know, working against you would take years to get something done, or you could, you know, have a relationship.

00:17:28.000 And it has nothing to do with politics.

00:17:30.000 It was about business. Yeah, that's exactly what it is.

00:17:32.000 You described it right. But, I mean, you, obviously because of the background, coming from, you know, a black man from Crown Heights, Brooklyn, as a Republican.

00:17:40.000 Yeah. You seem to bring an extra level of hate because you're not allowed to do that. 0.72

00:17:46.000 Well, it's funny. What's that been like?

00:17:48.000 Well I don't really mind it.

00:17:49.000 I actually kind of enjoy it because, and I enjoy pissing them off.

00:17:53.000 I think that's just a byproduct.

00:17:55.000 For me it's about just telling the truth about what's actually happening and not being afraid of that.

00:17:59.000 You know I grew up, when I was 16 I was held up at gunpoint.

00:18:04.000 When that happens, somebody talking about you on Twitter just doesn't really matter anymore.

00:18:08.000 It changes. It doesn't matter.

00:18:09.000 You know, like, I'm going to do the thing I think is important.

00:18:12.000 If this is the way the system is supposed to work, I'm going to advocate for that. 1.00

00:18:15.000 If Democrat policy is stupid, and by the way, it is stupid, I'm going to advocate against it. 0.99

00:18:19.000 And I'm not going to be afraid to speak that because I think the country needs to hear those alternative voices and they need to hear those thought processes that don't line up with mainstream political foolishness, which has really hurt our country. 1.00

00:18:33.000 I think that, you know, being black, that's just because the Democrats understand that if there's more black men that start to take a position politically that is my position, they can't win elections. 0.97

00:18:43.000 It's over for me. Talk about that a little bit, because, you know, again, I don't know that we've seen it necessarily translate out, and yet you see all these viral clips of, you know, guys from some of those communities.

00:18:53.000 They're like, bring back Trump!

00:18:55.000 Because, like, hey man, I get...

00:18:57.000 I don't pretend I don't understand where I'm from.

00:18:59.000 I'm very self-aware. I get it.

00:19:00.000 I'm the son of a billionaire from New York City.

00:19:02.000 But if I go to the Publix with my kids, Jesus Christ, it's expensive.

00:19:07.000 If I see it, it may not change the way I function, but if I notice it, it's got to be hurting a lot of people.

00:19:15.000 And they have to see that.

00:19:16.000 And eventually, the promises that never seem to amount to anything, that never actually move the needle, that never actually change your situation, when do they say enough is enough?

00:19:26.000 I actually think that's starting to happen right now.

00:19:29.000 And, you know, you brought up your dad.

00:19:32.000 He is like a catalyst for some of this.

00:19:34.000 See, people don't really remember that.

00:19:36.000 Before the political view of Donald Trump, Donald Trump was a cultural feature in hip-hop.

00:19:43.000 Yeah, like 150 rap songs.

00:19:45.000 It was a big thing in hip-hop.

00:19:46.000 No, it was a celebrated thing.

00:19:48.000 Like even now, I forgot which one I was in.

00:19:51.000 And I walked into the Trump International somewhere and I looked at my friend.

00:19:54.000 I said, man, I'm at the Trump International.

00:19:56.000 Ask for me. That's a Jay-Z line from one of his songs.

00:19:59.000 He was a part of that, of hip hop culture for a long time.

00:20:02.000 And so I think that people see his success and that he doesn't shy away from it.

00:20:07.000 And black men in particular embrace that.

00:20:10.000 I think that with black men, we're also looking at the situation that we're dealing with Joe Biden's crazy economy. 0.80

00:20:15.000 Man, their pockets are hurting. 0.80

00:20:17.000 Things are not working out.

00:20:18.000 And so we remember, listen, When he was president, I was making money.

00:20:24.000 I was getting ahead in life.

00:20:25.000 Can we have that again? Because I think that is the thing that black men are looking at politically.

00:20:30.000 Especially when you look into the fact that Democrat policy hasn't worked for them.

00:20:33.000 I think there's also... I can't remember who the comedian was, but black comedian was like, hey man, like...

00:20:41.000 You've got to stop this, like, arresting Trump stuff.

00:20:44.000 Like, you're giving him—you're making him straight.

00:20:47.000 And it was sort of interesting to hear that.

00:20:49.000 Like, I mean, obviously, you know, Hollywood liberal sort of, you know, mindset.

00:20:53.000 But, I mean, is there something to that?

00:20:55.000 Because, I mean, obviously there's sort of been, you know, historically—I think it's different now, but it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

00:21:01.000 It's just not— As prevalent as the left would love you to believe it is, where it's, you know, racism is the cause of and solution for all of life's problems, right?

00:21:10.000 It's different. But, you know, it seems like there is a component of that from a community that has been oftentimes throughout history sort of treated unfairly or poorly by a justice system.

00:21:21.000 Look, I mean, I'm going to be very clear with you on this one.

00:21:23.000 I think that our justice system, is it the best in the world?

00:21:26.000 Yes. But has it been fair to marginalized communities?

00:21:30.000 No. And a lot of that started in prosecutors' offices in a lot of different jurisdictions around the country.

00:21:36.000 Those are the facts. It has happened.

00:21:38.000 Like Kamala Harris. Or you like Kamala Harris. 0.91

00:21:41.000 But it's happened.

00:21:42.000 And so you would have a situation where, yeah, you have a prosecutor who would say, I'm not going to prosecute you.

00:21:47.000 I'm not going to prosecute you.

00:21:48.000 You're an easy conviction.

00:21:49.000 I'm going to take yours. And then they would go through that process.

00:21:52.000 Now you're seeing it in a political vein.

00:21:55.000 And here's what I think has really occurred.

00:21:57.000 You had the crazy liberal view of we have to change the criminal justice system in order to bring equity.

00:22:05.000 This is all the George Soros funded DAs.

00:22:08.000 So their view of justice is to completely turn the system in a 180 degree flip.

00:22:16.000 So now I'm going to target this guy and I'm not going to prosecute this crime.

00:22:21.000 When you bring that into the political realm, Everybody sees that it's political.

00:22:26.000 Everybody sees it's not fair.

00:22:28.000 Everybody sees it's a two-tier system.

00:22:30.000 And whether you like Republicans or don't like Republicans, you recognize just basic fairness.

00:22:36.000 And I think that's what's driving the support for 45, in part.

00:22:42.000 Because people see, like, you're just going after him for politics.

00:22:44.000 That's BS. They don't want a country like that. 0.98

00:22:47.000 Yeah, that's 100% clear.

00:22:48.000 So you mentioned... Perhaps specifically there was an impact with black men.

00:22:53.000 Yeah. But what about the women? 1.00

00:22:55.000 You know, what about the women when they're looking at what's going on to their kids in the inner cities, whether it's just rampant crime, whether it's murder, whether it's drugs, what's going on?

00:23:05.000 When do they say, hey, you know, maybe this isn't working either?

00:23:09.000 Because, you know, that's such a, you know, I don't even want to stereotype it, but, you know, a fundamental part of that household.

00:23:15.000 You obviously have a lot of, you know, sort of single mothers raising children. 0.99

00:23:19.000 Right. When do they see that?

00:23:21.000 Because you're right. It is pretty clear in the thing where that hasn't necessarily resonated as well with the women as it has with the men.

00:23:29.000 No, it hasn't resonated as well.

00:23:31.000 And I think that this is where, you know, the Democrats with their constant pushing right, wrong or indifferent of black women is going to be a harder thing to overcome.

00:23:39.000 But I think the key in that Is this radical agenda around transgenderism.

00:23:45.000 When you have Democrat policies that are pushing for puberty blockers who will tell a child, hey, if you want to change your gender, okay, we're just not going to tell your parents.

00:23:55.000 Listen, I know my mom...

00:23:57.000 Man, there's no way PS235 in Brooklyn, New York could have tried to help me change my gender around my mother's knowledge and been okay.

00:24:06.000 She'd have beat everyone in that school to ask.

00:24:08.000 She'd have burnt the school to the ground. 0.97

00:24:10.000 Because I'm her son.

00:24:12.000 You're not going to separate and put a wedge between me and my child.

00:24:16.000 And I think that black women are very concerned about that.

00:24:19.000 We're already seeing that with Islamic households in our country.

00:24:24.000 They're furious about this.

00:24:26.000 You see it with Colombians and Peruvians and Guatemalans, Puerto Ricans.

00:24:31.000 I hate to just say Hispanic because all the cultures are different.

00:24:33.000 Yeah, no, it's all different. But in Florida you have the Nazar more because they're Cuban-Venezuelan. 0.90

00:24:37.000 They escaped some of this crap. 0.87

00:24:39.000 And so they're perhaps earlier adapters to more the conservative mindset because they've seen the alternative. 0.86

00:24:46.000 But when you drive away, and this is a key point, when Democrat policy in schools is to allow for a wedge between parent and child, that is the state, and now you're trying to talk about the very identity of the child and the ideology of the child and the parents aren't allowed to know.

00:25:04.000 That's a major issue.

00:25:05.000 I think Republicans, we should be talking about that significantly.

00:25:08.000 Well, can you get that message out?

00:25:09.000 Because, you know, that's still, you know, where the mass populations are.

00:25:12.000 It's going to be in those cities. They're, you know, the church leaders sort of on the DNC payroll.

00:25:17.000 Maybe great, but he's on the payroll.

00:25:19.000 He's on the team. They're taking care of him.

00:25:21.000 How do you break that message out?

00:25:23.000 I mean, you said an interesting thing when you talk about some of the Muslim communities sort of being aligned with the conservatives.

00:25:31.000 That was probably, at least according to the media, that would have been unlikely bedfellows.

00:25:37.000 And yet you have sort of evangelical Christians protesting alongside fairly religious Muslims. 0.59

00:25:46.000 About this sort of things.

00:25:48.000 I mean, the left is, you know, again, if you don't buy into 100% of their stuff, you're out.

00:25:53.000 And I think people are seeing that and hopefully fighting back.

00:25:55.000 I think they are. And I think this is also indicative of that.

00:25:58.000 Now you have Republicans, not just party apparatus, but elected members, engage in these culture wars.

00:26:05.000 And now the media is trying to accuse us of starting culture wars.

00:26:09.000 No, we're not. We're engaging in the culture wars that the left has already started.

00:26:12.000 We're playing the game that they've been doing.

00:26:13.000 Like, we just... Rather than playing t-ball while they're playing hardball, we're actually just playing the same game.

00:26:19.000 And I don't care if you're playing t-ball or hardball, but you've got to be playing the same game.

00:26:22.000 Play the same game. And now we're engaged in that game.

00:26:25.000 And now you're starting to see those divides in some of these ethnic demographics that historically would have just been almost universally Democrat now saying, wait a minute.

00:26:34.000 I don't agree with that either.

00:26:36.000 Maybe I should listen to these guys over here.

00:26:38.000 And I think it's very effective for us.

00:26:40.000 Well, and I've seen that.

00:26:41.000 I mean, I remember in the last week or two, numerous articles have been written about the rise of Hindu white supremacy. 0.69

00:26:51.000 Yes, Latino white supremacy. 1.00

00:26:55.000 I'm like, wait a second. 0.93

00:26:57.000 So the white supremacy thing is this big thing that it's being seemingly dominated by people who aren't actually white.

00:27:05.000 I'm sure you've been called white.

00:27:07.000 All sorts of things. And they've attacked you for that because you're a conservative.

00:27:11.000 And, you know, it's an interesting attack.

00:27:13.000 Have you seen those articles? I haven't seen those.

00:27:15.000 I'll flash them up on here. I haven't seen those, but I've got to read that.

00:27:18.000 I did a post about it. It's a lunacy.

00:27:22.000 Asian... White supremacy because they were aligned with, you know, there were some of the people that started the battle against some of the affirmative action because kids that were overperforming were being discriminated against. 0.93

00:27:32.000 And it's like, well, that's white supremacy too, even if they're Asian and not white.

00:27:36.000 And it doesn't seem to matter, I guess, if you're going against that Democrat apparatus, they'll call you whatever it is.

00:27:42.000 Look, the Democrats have been weaponizing race in our country for a long time.

00:27:46.000 And at the end of the day, it is, in my view, the number one hold that they push.

00:27:52.000 And look, you can see it like clockwork.

00:27:54.000 You know, you notice there haven't been really a lot of stories about race the last two years.

00:27:59.000 Wait until next year.

00:28:00.000 They're going to start firing it up again.

00:28:03.000 We're going to go back through this thing again.

00:28:05.000 And my hope is that voters will listen to it.

00:28:08.000 And I think this is the power. And let's be very clear.

00:28:10.000 People like myself, like Ana Polina, like Wesley Hunt.

00:28:14.000 When I was on the show? Yeah.

00:28:16.000 You guys are actually making an impact.

00:28:18.000 You're young, you're new, but you're also not ascribing to the...

00:28:22.000 You sit in line and wait.

00:28:23.000 In 15 years, you can start voicing your opinion when you have some seniority, Byron.

00:28:27.000 Oh, no, I'm not doing that. You're out there on the front lines.

00:28:30.000 To me, I didn't run for office to wait in line.

00:28:35.000 I came to do effective things for the country.

00:28:38.000 And actually what I told my district was, I'm going to push the vision and the policies and the idea of conservatism.

00:28:45.000 And I'm pushing it everywhere.

00:28:46.000 I'm going to take it to all corners of the country because we've got to have that in order to be successful.

00:28:50.000 Well, you're doing that well. I mean, you're playing, you know, the away game.

00:28:55.000 I mean, you'll go on CNN. You'll go, you know, and there's plenty, and I get it.

00:29:00.000 In 16, I used to do that, too.

00:29:01.000 Now, it's not even for me.

00:29:04.000 Well, they let you on the door now?

00:29:06.000 They won't even let me on Fox anymore, so don't worry about it.

00:29:08.000 Like, I can't go anywhere.

00:29:10.000 That's why I do this, because I'm like, you know, I'm apparently too good.

00:29:13.000 You know, you are going into the lion's den and fighting back there.

00:29:19.000 And I think that's important, especially with your background and where you come from.

00:29:23.000 As much as they'll have an old white dude talk to you about... 0.91

00:29:30.000 I mean, it's insane, but I guess when you're on their side and you control that kind of power and you control the narrative and you control the mainstream media and you control big tech, it doesn't matter.

00:29:40.000 They can get away with that. I mean, you can be lectured about race by an old white dude, but you can't fight back, but you are. 0.55

00:29:48.000 And you're doing it, and you're doing it effectively.

00:29:50.000 I enjoy it. And I think, you know, I look at it like sports.

00:29:54.000 Like there's nothing better than shutting up the home team when you're in their building.

00:29:58.000 Yeah. Because, you know, you just knock down three shots in a row and they got to quiet down because they feel like they're going to lose the game.

00:30:05.000 I think being willing to go into those studios, knowing that you're going to get the pushback, and just going and trying to make key points is critical.

00:30:13.000 Some of my colleagues, you know, they asked me about it.

00:30:15.000 They're like, man, how is it going on there?

00:30:17.000 I said, listen, As long as you go in there, you did your homework, and you have the courage of your convictions, go do it.

00:30:24.000 They need to hear it.

00:30:25.000 The producers, by the way, they actually like it because they're like, oh, shoot, ratings are going up.

00:30:29.000 This is interesting. Yeah, ratings are good. You need that.

00:30:31.000 But you've got to engage.

00:30:32.000 And I think the one thing where Republicans have not been successful is we were terrible at messaging, awful at it.

00:30:39.000 Yes. And we wouldn't take messages other places.

00:30:42.000 We would say we don't have to worry about that vote.

00:30:44.000 We can't go and capture that person.

00:30:46.000 No, I won every vote.

00:30:47.000 Mm-hmm. I want every vote.

00:30:48.000 I want every American to hear what I believe and what our party believes in and make a real decision.

00:30:55.000 If you still decide to follow Democrat policy, you're an American, do what you do.

00:30:59.000 I don't agree. God bless you.

00:31:01.000 Live your life. I think the results speak for themselves.

00:31:03.000 But I want you to make a decision.

00:31:05.000 That's your right. That's your right.

00:31:06.000 But it doesn't seem like the Democrats believe that anymore.

00:31:08.000 No, they don't believe that. They want you to bend the knee.

00:31:11.000 Everything is systemic racism.

00:31:13.000 That's where everything comes from.

00:31:15.000 What are your thoughts on that? How do you get through that?

00:31:19.000 It's dominated in academia.

00:31:21.000 I saw that having kids in New York City before we moved to Florida.

00:31:23.000 It's like everything, just day in and day out.

00:31:26.000 How do you get back someone who's been programmed to think that way from leftists for the first 20 years of their lives?

00:31:35.000 Well, I think the first thing is you got to acknowledge some certain realities.

00:31:39.000 Was there systemic racism in the country?

00:31:42.000 Yes. Of course. Jim Crow eras is indicative of that and so many other eras. 0.62

00:31:46.000 But what's the solution?

00:31:48.000 Is the solution now to say that I've got to hold everybody else back in order for me to get ahead?

00:31:53.000 No. All that is going to do is breed envy and breed division. 0.93

00:31:57.000 Oh, I think you're creating a whole problem.

00:31:59.000 You're going to create another problem and try to replace the former one.

00:32:02.000 And I think that's where people who go down this woke critical race theory vision of America are getting it wrong.

00:32:09.000 If you want a young black kid to get ahead in this country, the number one thing you got to do is open up his opportunities, but you can't open up his opportunities and limit other people because that's not going to help him get ahead.

00:32:19.000 You don't get better as an athlete with everybody else still sitting on the bench and you're the only one on the field.

00:32:25.000 You get better in competition, in activity.

00:32:28.000 That's how it works.

00:32:29.000 So in our country, you gotta have a system where obviously access is open, people have an opportunity to step into that space, and then the animal spirits of just human nature and human ability, human intellect, human innovation, that stuff takes over.

00:32:43.000 That's the pathway for success in the future of our country.

00:32:46.000 Not limiting other people because of the sins of the past.

00:32:50.000 So you've been named, I guess, the chairman of the Black Conservative Federation.

00:32:54.000 Yeah. And so how do you get that message out there, right?

00:32:58.000 You have sort of what you're saying, which I agree with.

00:33:00.000 It seems actually logical, which is contrary to everything else that we see out there on a daily basis.

00:33:05.000 But, you know, you have...

00:33:08.000 Two weeks ago, you had the striking down of the affirmative action at the Supreme Court.

00:33:13.000 You had Joy Reid losing her mind on MSDNC or wherever she is. 1.00

00:33:18.000 I got into Harvard, and I would have never gotten into Harvard if it weren't for...

00:33:22.000 My academics weren't...

00:33:23.000 I mean, I'm like, but aren't you just sort of proving the point?

00:33:27.000 Meaning, you didn't belong there.

00:33:29.000 You got there only because of this system.

00:33:32.000 It was essentially reverse racism, I guess, right?

00:33:35.000 But how do you...

00:33:37.000 It's a hard message to sell, right?

00:33:38.000 Because some people, especially in a society like today, where I think I see it with kids, you know, we're much more of an instant gratification society today than we were.

00:33:46.000 So it's like, well, if I could skip that, this is going to work against me.

00:33:49.000 I'm never going to be for something where I could get sort of the upper hand or that free upper hand.

00:33:55.000 How do you combat that? I think the way I look at it is that the stain of racism in America is not something you can get rid of.

00:34:03.000 It is what it is.

00:34:04.000 It's a part of our fabric.

00:34:06.000 It's a terrible part of our fabric, but it's there.

00:34:09.000 The question really is, are we 2023 America or 1923 America?

00:34:14.000 We're not 1923 America.

00:34:15.000 Let's be very clear. We're not.

00:34:18.000 We're not even 1983 America.

00:34:20.000 And as far as the world goes, I'd also say we're...

00:34:22.000 We're probably overperforming because this is not an issue that's exclusive to America.

00:34:26.000 Yes. I mean, this is a thing all over the world.

00:34:29.000 I mean, ask, you know, how do the Chinese feel about the Japanese?

00:34:32.000 How do, you know... How do the Chinese feel about the Uyghurs?

00:34:35.000 There is... Oh, yes, this is happening around...

00:34:37.000 If you persecuted Muslims like that in America, people would be in jail, rightfully so, and people... 1.00

00:34:43.000 And yet... Our corporate America is really silent about that. 0.93

00:34:47.000 They'd be protesting, you know, the rise of, you know, black-white supremacy. 0.80

00:34:50.000 It's like, reminds me of the Chappelle skit.

00:34:52.000 You know what I mean? It's like...

00:34:53.000 That was a good skit.

00:34:55.000 How much time you got? But listen, man, here's the thing.

00:34:59.000 Corporate America, we'll put them to a side.

00:35:00.000 We've got to come back and talk about them.

00:35:01.000 But I think if you're talking about the trajectory of race in our country, we get better every generation. 0.85

00:35:07.000 Every generation we get better.

00:35:09.000 You know, I think, like, and my story personally, or not even my story, right now we have four black members of Congress on the Republican side of the aisle.

00:35:17.000 That hasn't happened since Reconstruction.

00:35:19.000 Yeah. That happens since Reconstruction.

00:35:21.000 And you have leaders in all...

00:35:23.000 You get guys like you, Wesley, certainly, like, quite vocal.

00:35:27.000 Yes. And, like, and totally embraced.

00:35:29.000 Yes. You know, frankly, much more so than some on the other side, where you just almost feel like, okay, well, it's a checkbox, and, you know...

00:35:37.000 I think Wesley's crushing it. I mean, he's a funny guy, man.

00:35:40.000 He's doing a great job.

00:35:42.000 You're doing that. Don't tell Wesley he's not funny.

00:35:44.000 Wesley and I are friends. He's pretty funny, man.

00:35:45.000 He's pretty funny. He's good.

00:35:46.000 I was like, I almost wish when he did the show, I almost wish we got the backstory of him and I joking around.

00:35:51.000 I'd have probably been thrown to jail for like...

00:35:54.000 But that's the difference. That's why I feel like we have gone so far, because if he, with his background, and me with my background, and frankly everything that he called me, can have that kind of conversation, that's where we need to be.

00:36:06.000 I think we're actually in a really good spot in our country, Joe Biden notwithstanding.

00:36:12.000 Culturally, I think we're in a better spot than I think people realize.

00:36:16.000 And the only thing that's really hurting us is media, big media, and these narratives that somehow a black man or a black woman can't get ahead today.

00:36:24.000 I think that's just wrong and it's a foul.

00:36:26.000 Okay, so they keep saying it.

00:36:28.000 But there's no evidence.

00:36:29.000 They just say it. No, of course not. But there's no evidence to that.

00:36:32.000 But what does that say? I mean, what should that say to your son or daughter if they were watching that?

00:36:38.000 I mean, they're literally out there.

00:36:40.000 How are they possibly—you know, you can't—I mean, Byron, you couldn't possibly get a driver's license to vote.

00:36:45.000 I mean, like, that's not capable of that.

00:36:48.000 But I mean, it's insane because it's so insulting.

00:36:52.000 Right. And yet, it's like, they're saying it's just common vernacular.

00:36:56.000 It's fine. What do you mean? They do it every day.

00:36:58.000 Every week there's a new example of them essentially spitting into the face of some minority group as to their competence to do basic shit that basically anyone in America could do. 0.97

00:37:12.000 I don't even let my sons worry about that.

00:37:15.000 I want my sons to take their cues from me and I think this is the power of families.

00:37:18.000 And this is actually the power of, you know, father figures and all of that and strong mothers.

00:37:23.000 My mother in the 90s, in the 80s and 90s in New York, she didn't want me to think less.

00:37:30.000 She always challenged me and pushed me. 1.00

00:37:32.000 It didn't matter what media was saying.

00:37:35.000 She challenged me to be my best self.

00:37:37.000 My sons and I, we spent some time together last week, not last week, the week before.

00:37:41.000 And I told my older two sons, I'm like, you guys are better than me.

00:37:45.000 You know, they're 15 and 19 years old.

00:37:47.000 I'm like, you guys are better than your father at 15 and 19.

00:37:50.000 Yeah. And I just want them to continue to be their best version of themselves.

00:37:54.000 And don't let anybody tell them otherwise.

00:37:56.000 And the last thing I always tell them, I'm like, son, if you want something, you have to go work for it.

00:38:00.000 Nobody's going to give it to you. If you think somebody's going to give you something, then you're going to be a bum. 0.84

00:38:04.000 And I'm not raising you to be a bum. 0.57

00:38:06.000 I'm raising you to be a man. It's funny. 0.88

00:38:08.000 Listen, again, I... I'm hypercritically aware of where I come from, but my dad was kind of the same way.

00:38:13.000 My first job was in ninth grade working at a marina as a dock attendant doing this stuff.

00:38:18.000 I did that for two summers, and I got another job working in landscaping.

00:38:22.000 The marina job was minimum wage plus tips, but you could make the tips.

00:38:25.000 Then I got into landscaping, and I'm like, wait a minute.

00:38:27.000 I'm making minimum wage. I'm not making any tips.

00:38:29.000 About three-quarters of the way through the summer, I go to my dad and I'm like, How come I'm not getting more money?

00:38:33.000 I'm working much harder. There's not chicks around. 1.00

00:38:36.000 I'm not getting invited on boats after work and stuff like that. 0.99

00:38:38.000 This sucks. Why didn't I get more money? 0.58

00:38:42.000 You didn't ask me. Why would I give you more than you're willing to work for?

00:38:45.000 I was like, oh shit. It's nothing. 0.99

00:38:47.000 You've got to go out there and get it yourself.

00:38:49.000 And again, I understand how blessed I've been and fortunate I've been.

00:38:52.000 I don't want to even compare that to anything else.

00:38:55.000 But there was still that understanding.

00:38:56.000 And my mom was that same sort of Eastern European like, hey, I escaped communism. 1.00

00:39:00.000 Get your shit together. There's a toughness there that unfortunately doesn't seem to exist too often here in America where everyone's helicoptering and everyone's so soft and everyone's Trying to coddle everything for feelings as opposed to reality. 0.97

00:39:14.000 Oh, because we're not requiring it.

00:39:16.000 And this is a key thing. Listen, my mother, Jamaican, tough lady. 1.00

00:39:19.000 She wasn't really concerned about my feelings. 0.78

00:39:21.000 She wanted execution. 0.73

00:39:23.000 Yeah. My mom was the disciplinary. 0.99

00:39:24.000 She beat my ass. Yeah, I agree. 1.00

00:39:27.000 And I hated it. I agree.

00:39:29.000 And, I mean, so for me, like with my sons...

00:39:32.000 I care about your feelings, but no, no. 0.95

00:39:36.000 I need execution. 0.97

00:39:37.000 You have to get the thing done. 0.96

00:39:39.000 You have to accomplish the mission.

00:39:41.000 You have to accomplish the goal.

00:39:42.000 One of my sons, my 15-year-old son, he was mad about something.

00:39:46.000 And I go, son, don't nobody care about your feelings?

00:39:49.000 And I don't care about your feelings right now.

00:39:51.000 I want you to succeed.

00:39:53.000 Guess what? When you leave my house, the world is not going to care about your feelings.

00:39:56.000 They're going to want to know did you do it or not?

00:39:59.000 Did you show up or not?

00:40:01.000 Did you execute or not?

00:40:03.000 Did you win or not?

00:40:04.000 That's the world. Your feelings come third.

00:40:07.000 The only people who care about your feelings are your family.

00:40:09.000 And nobody else cares.

00:40:10.000 So go out and win and go and execute.

00:40:12.000 We don't require that of our children.

00:40:14.000 We're not demanding it of them.

00:40:15.000 It's one of the things that's happening in school culture where now they're so consumed.

00:40:20.000 It's this social emotional learning.

00:40:22.000 They're consumed about the emotional makeup of the child.

00:40:25.000 They're not demanding excellence of the child.

00:40:27.000 And then when the child comes into the working world, now it's a problem.

00:40:31.000 No, and it's a tough thing. 1.00

00:40:34.000 I learned, I felt, so much more in life from getting my ass kicked. 0.99

00:40:39.000 You know what I mean? I went to boarding school, but when I went there as an eighth grader with a loud mouth from New York City, I got my ass kicked. 1.00

00:40:43.000 And it was actually, I learned much more from that. 0.98

00:40:48.000 You're not allowed to say that these days, right?

00:40:49.000 Because that's like, oh, you were bullied.

00:40:51.000 I understand there's a point where it's too far.

00:40:54.000 But I also understand that for me, Sometimes you needed that to actually drive a point. 0.79

00:41:01.000 I'll get in a lot of trouble for saying it, but I feel like without any adversity, with everything having a cushion, there's always a fucking excuse, right?

00:41:12.000 You can't have excuses in life. 0.80

00:41:14.000 That's, I think, the point, but that's not where we are today as a society.

00:41:17.000 I think we're certainly not there in our education system, so how do you break through?

00:41:21.000 I think that's coming back through families starting to really take stock of where we are as a country and looking at their kids and their grandkids and saying, man, you know what?

00:41:31.000 Yeah, I got to take your phone.

00:41:33.000 You got to earn your phone.

00:41:35.000 You just don't get your phone.

00:41:36.000 There's things you have to do in order to excel.

00:41:39.000 And making those demands, I think some of that is coming back in schools because I think we've seen the fallacy of trying to coddle everybody and be concerned about everybody's feelings as opposed to demanding it.

00:41:50.000 And I think what's happening on sports fields, I think the kids who are going to really dominate our country are going to be kids who play competitive sports.

00:41:57.000 Because they're accustomed to having a grind. 0.93

00:42:00.000 Well, it's a meritocracy, right?

00:42:01.000 It's all merit. Hey, I'd love to play in the NBA, but it ain't going to happen, right?

00:42:06.000 You've got to sort of earn that.

00:42:08.000 So it's sort of interesting when I see, I mean, maybe the NBA is the right example, right?

00:42:12.000 Where it's like, politically, they're almost saying the opposite.

00:42:15.000 And yet, There's no chance I'd ever play in the NBA. But then outside of that, it's like, no, well, everyone's the same and everyone's going to get it.

00:42:22.000 It's like, well, it's not the case.

00:42:24.000 Everyone has that chance. Everyone was created equal, but then things start separating, right?

00:42:30.000 Things start separating based on work ethic, based on talent, based on ability, based on luck.

00:42:36.000 So how do you overcome that, though, in society?

00:42:40.000 We talked about corporate America.

00:42:42.000 Oh, yeah, we've got to come back to that.

00:42:44.000 What's your thoughts on what's going on there?

00:42:46.000 Because that, too, seems to be an attack on the family, an attack on everything these days.

00:42:52.000 They don't even hide it anymore, even with the...

00:42:55.000 The pushing of the stuff that would break up families or the pushing of the nonsense and the trans thing these days seems to me like that's almost the ultimate form of privilege these days. 0.99

00:43:03.000 If you're trans, you're untouchable. 1.00

00:43:07.000 You can just do whatever you want, at least based on those notions from corporate America or wherever it may be.

00:43:14.000 What do you think is going on there?

00:43:16.000 Oh, I'll tell you what's going on.

00:43:17.000 You have activist shareholders that are being put forward by left-leaning groups.

00:43:22.000 They are. You have some of the employees who now are bringing their politics into the company.

00:43:27.000 And then you have, like, the corporate manager, the CEO, whatever.

00:43:31.000 They're between a rock and a higher place.

00:43:33.000 They might have that political view, but they're trying to run the company.

00:43:36.000 And so you have these shareholders who are bringing these crazy shareholder positions that are being voted up.

00:43:45.000 By the shareholders.

00:43:47.000 Mostly because the advisory firms, the Black Rocks, the Vanguards, are just saying, yeah, we'll support that. 0.95

00:43:52.000 And they voted through. But what's in it for them?

00:43:55.000 What is it actually accomplished, meaning their shareholders and maybe their activism overrides their capitalism, where they just believe that, you know, there's 9,476 genders and we'll lose money to accomplish that, right?

00:44:07.000 No, I think that's exactly the point.

00:44:09.000 And maybe it is, right? That's exactly the point.

00:44:11.000 You know, when you look at these boards and you see the decisions they're making, you've got to wonder when the other shareholders start suing them because they're not acting as fiduciaries.

00:44:19.000 Because, you know, ESG is not proven to be an effective methodology for investing your retirement fund.

00:44:26.000 No, it's not. And yet, it dominates.

00:44:29.000 You know, you see the boycotts, I think, you know, have been effective in dropping billions of dollars in market cap.

00:44:35.000 But, like, they're still doubling down.

00:44:38.000 They're still, you know, you, corporate America, oh, well, you know, those guys lost $10 billion.

00:44:42.000 Like, we're going to go all in with the same thing.

00:44:44.000 It's like, what is going on?

00:44:45.000 Well, I think what you're starting to see now is more companies are staying private.

00:44:49.000 They don't want to go public because they don't want to deal with this.

00:44:51.000 Because if you created a company or you run a company, you don't want to have to deal with all of this silly stuff coming in from these activist shareholders.

00:44:58.000 You just want to run your company.

00:45:00.000 In Congress, we're trying to create some rules to try to tamp this down and kind of get things focused back on business being the main thing.

00:45:06.000 Are you doing that in oversight?

00:45:08.000 No, financial services.

00:45:09.000 Financial services, I've got zero above.

00:45:10.000 Financial services is working at that.

00:45:12.000 But one of the big things that's occurred politically and culturally in our country is our economy is so dynamic,

00:45:18.000 it's so good that you got time to argue about all this other stuff.

00:45:22.000 As opposed to keeping the main thing the main thing.

00:45:25.000 And if we stay focused on business and our economy growing and thriving,

00:45:29.000 you can have these conversations, but the company cannot become the vehicle

00:45:33.000 for pushing this stuff.

00:45:34.000 And the left has now used the agencies of our federal government and they're using the corporations in our economy to drive their agenda that they can never get voted on by Congress, that they can never win an election on.

00:45:47.000 They're pushing that through finance and they're pushing it through culture, they're pushing it obviously through entertainment, and they're trying to push it through government.

00:45:54.000 And they're trying to have their way in all these areas.

00:45:57.000 But that's why you can't just have the old tried and true Republican mantra of less taxes, less government, more freedom.

00:46:04.000 You've got to engage in all these sectors.

00:46:06.000 So how are you doing that? I think how we're doing it is a couple of things.

00:46:10.000 One, we're bringing it to light.

00:46:11.000 Two, in financial services, some of the stuff on proxy advisor reform is really, really important.

00:46:16.000 Three, we're going to have to clean house in these agencies.

00:46:18.000 And I mean, at the political branch levels, we've got to clean house.

00:46:21.000 Four, we've got to have some reforms around employees in the federal level.

00:46:25.000 And then five, and this is where we started, not being afraid to go into the big media shows and tell them that they're wrong, having alternative sources, expressing those viewpoints, having rallies, having meetings, having coffees.

00:46:40.000 I just told the lady on the convention floor, Our country only survives with the activism of the American people.

00:46:46.000 Not the passiveness of the American people.

00:46:49.000 People got to be active.

00:46:50.000 And that's what we've done badly as conservatives.

00:46:52.000 We've done that badly. Live and let live. We turn the other cheek and the other side's like, I'll take the win.

00:46:56.000 I'll take the win. And that's changing.

00:46:58.000 That is changing. I agree. Like Bud Light, goodbye.

00:47:02.000 Target, what's happening to them, you've got to deal with that too.

00:47:06.000 And even when they tried to go after Chick-fil-A years ago, and when it ended up happening, you had Christians, you had Americans come out, and they bought more Chick-fil-A. You know, I probably had too much Chick-fil-A at the time, but those waffle fries, man. 0.89

00:47:17.000 They get you in trouble. Waffle fries are good.

00:47:18.000 But when people support Companies just doing their job.

00:47:23.000 And when they decide not to do business with a company that actively is going after them and their way of life, that's fine.

00:47:29.000 If it was good enough for the left, it's good enough for us.

00:47:32.000 And to your point, if we're going to play t-ball, then we should play t-ball.

00:47:36.000 If they're going to play hardball, we've got to play hardball.

00:47:39.000 When you go back to your district around Naples, really, I guess, you know, southwest Florida, What are the issues that stand out to the people there?

00:47:46.000 You have sort of national issues, but what are the things that concerns them the most going forward?

00:47:51.000 Number one is water policy.

00:47:54.000 Because, you know, we're sitting right on the edge of the Everglades system.

00:47:59.000 Blue-green algae is a big thing.

00:48:00.000 So what we're doing is making sure that we get the necessary projects done to clean up our water systems.

00:48:06.000 Because now we have, what, 20 million people living south of I-4 in Florida, and we're going to have more people coming in.

00:48:12.000 So what we want to be able to do is have that water system be cleaned out.

00:48:16.000 That's, like, the big issue at home.

00:48:18.000 But other than that, a lot of my voters, they just want to be left alone.

00:48:21.000 They just want the country to work.

00:48:23.000 Leave me alone. I've done well in my life.

00:48:26.000 I'm building my family if I'm young and I'm working like I was, or they retire there.

00:48:30.000 They just want competent government.

00:48:32.000 They just want clean streets, which they have, safe community, which they have, and a government that works.

00:48:37.000 So when will the people that don't have those things start really wanting them?

00:48:41.000 Because it seems like if you look at all these Democrat-controlled cities that are supposed to be these great utopian places, they're anything but, and yet it continues to happen, and they replace one disastrous mayor with someone who's worse, and it continues.

00:48:55.000 I mean, it feels like it's a perpetual cycle in an adverse way that never seems to be remedied, and yet nothing ever changes.

00:49:02.000 Well I think this is one of the reasons why as a Republican I was always pissed with the party and pissed with consultants because they would ignore these communities because they didn't feel that they can win votes there in a meaningful way or that's a waste of money let's not campaign in those areas.

00:49:16.000 So when you don't have local elected officials with the right policy set get elected These cities, you know, when you have Democrat control 30, 40, 50 years, what you end up with is a current Chicago, which is not safe at all, and businesses are fleeing.

00:49:31.000 Conversely, Florida is the test case.

00:49:33.000 When you have consistent Republican-slash-conservative policy for a generation, you get Florida.

00:49:39.000 And that's what we have. If you don't do it, you go the opposite way, you get California and everybody's leaving.

00:49:46.000 But from a political standpoint, you can't abandon these areas.

00:49:50.000 And we have done that.

00:49:52.000 So even if you have a Republican candidate, good candidate, you know, gonna fight hard, gonna do the right thing, gonna really get into the fight, not gonna just say it on TV and then go home and have a scotch or something like that.

00:50:04.000 Or do nothing. Or do nothing.

00:50:07.000 It's hard to get them elected now because the entire trajectory of politics in those areas is one way.

00:50:12.000 We've got to start going into those communities and fighting for those communities.

00:50:16.000 And it can't just be a thing of, oh, well, we can't win there, so we're going to turn the blind eyes.

00:50:20.000 So how do we do that? I think the first thing you do is, and me and my friends, we talk about this a lot, you start going into black churches. 0.99

00:50:27.000 And into Hispanic churches in these communities.

00:50:30.000 Because they're there. And you just sit down and just talk to them.

00:50:32.000 And not come in there saying, let me introduce you.

00:50:34.000 Let me tell you who I am.

00:50:36.000 I just want to listen to you.

00:50:37.000 What's going on in your world?

00:50:39.000 You start building those relationships.

00:50:41.000 You start organizing on small levels.

00:50:43.000 I mean, that's what the left is trying to do to us in Texas.

00:50:46.000 Small organizations slowly building them up until they get critical mass and then they move somebody into elective space.

00:50:53.000 We've got to do that and bring that information.

00:50:55.000 And then you start building it very, very slowly.

00:50:58.000 You start electing people to school boards.

00:51:00.000 Elect somebody on a city council slot.

00:51:01.000 I think the school board stuff is more important probably than anything.

00:51:03.000 And that's how it begins. So, you know, in talking about it, I think you're right.

00:51:08.000 We've started doing some of that.

00:51:09.000 There seems to be, you know, at least to me, you know, more of an early adaption from the Hispanic community.

00:51:15.000 And again, I don't mean to generalize that because that's sort of all over the place, but you see that over the African-American community.

00:51:20.000 Yes. Why do you think that is?

00:51:23.000 I think because the weaponization of race in our politics has been specifically targeted to black Americans.

00:51:29.000 To have them feel that they cannot support Republicans because Republicans want to hold them back.

00:51:36.000 I mean, it is the biggest lie in politics.

00:51:38.000 And they still go out there and just tell it.

00:51:40.000 There's people that just aren't into it.

00:51:42.000 They tell it every four years. They believe it and they just vote accordingly?

00:51:44.000 Well, most people, and listen, most people are not political animals.

00:51:48.000 Yeah. I said it like this, like, I'm not a car guy.

00:51:51.000 My biggest thing is what color is it?

00:51:53.000 Does it drive fast? You know, does it have peanut interior?

00:51:56.000 I like that. That's cool. Let's roll.

00:51:57.000 Where do I put the gas in and who do I take it to to get it fixed?

00:52:00.000 If you pop the hood and try to show me what a carburetor, what a spark plugs are, don't even use spark plugs.

00:52:04.000 I don't know. I'm not a car guy.

00:52:06.000 For a lot of Americans, they're not political guys.

00:52:09.000 They don't know the ins and outs.

00:52:10.000 It's not because they're not intelligent and they can't process it.

00:52:13.000 It's not their thing. Yeah, well, they're busy trying to feed their families.

00:52:17.000 Yeah, exactly. So, as a Republican, if I'm trying to get you who typically have gone the other way, I want you to see my kind of way.

00:52:25.000 I've got to be appealing.

00:52:26.000 I can't be boring.

00:52:27.000 I've got to be appealing.

00:52:28.000 I've got to be outgoing. I've got to be interesting.

00:52:31.000 I've got to know policy, but I've also got to know life.

00:52:34.000 I've got to be able to engage in all of that.

00:52:37.000 And listen, to be clear, this started with your dad.

00:52:42.000 Because of his... The most electrifying man in politics.

00:52:46.000 Take a phrase from The Rock.

00:52:48.000 But when you brought that energy into politics, what it showed a lot of other people is, oh man, you know what?

00:52:55.000 I can bring a similar level of energy.

00:52:58.000 You can't replicate it and don't even try because that's not successful.

00:53:02.000 But bring your own energy and be who you are.

00:53:05.000 I get stopped more. 0.96

00:53:07.000 By black guys in airports and sometimes on the street. 0.90

00:53:11.000 And they'll say to me, they'll be like, hey, you buying McDonald's?

00:53:14.000 I'm like, yeah. Hey, man, I saw this video of you.

00:53:18.000 I mean, I really liked that. I really agreed with it.

00:53:20.000 But you've got to bring that energy.

00:53:21.000 And you have to be undaunting and unafraid to step into these battles.

00:53:27.000 And I think the more we do that, the more you're going to see that.

00:53:29.000 Unafraid is the right word. That's the word I use always on this show.

00:53:32.000 Because, again, there's a consequence to being a conservative, right?

00:53:34.000 You will be branded a racist.

00:53:36.000 Even if you're not talking about race, it doesn't matter.

00:53:37.000 Like, they'll call me a racist for asking you the questions that we're talking about today.

00:53:40.000 Like, it's just...

00:53:41.000 And unfortunately, I think that does actually a major disservice.

00:53:45.000 Because I agree with you. I think... You know, whether it's, you know, foundationally in our country, there's problems.

00:53:49.000 I think there are still some.

00:53:51.000 It's just not everything.

00:53:53.000 And I think what the left has done is actually by, you know, every time, you know, sort of the easy button of the radical left to just call you a racist, they've actually diminished the instance of actual racism.

00:54:04.000 Because now when people hear it, they're like, eh, roll your eyes, move on.

00:54:07.000 You know, it used to be the worst thing you could possibly be called, but once they've called everyone that they disagree with the same thing, It sort of leaves people in the dust.

00:54:15.000 You know one of my favorite guys we still have not met and it's just crazy and it's busy is Mark Robinson in North Carolina.

00:54:20.000 This guy!

00:54:22.000 Oh my gosh! I love Mark and I've spent some time with him.

00:54:26.000 He's a wild man. And I love it in a great way because...

00:54:29.000 There's like zero F's given.

00:54:31.000 You know what I mean? He says what needs to be said.

00:54:33.000 It's amazing. And he does it, to your point, in an electrifying way.

00:54:38.000 There may only be one Trump, but you can bring a different energy and get that attention and garner that thing and highlight an issue.

00:54:46.000 Look, I'm a big pro wrestling fan.

00:54:48.000 I love pro wrestling. I love the showmanship.

00:54:50.000 He'd be awesome on that.

00:54:51.000 I love it. It's great.

00:54:53.000 There is one Hulk Hogan, but there is still room for Ric Flair.

00:54:58.000 There was still room for John Cena, The Rock, Stone Cold, Triple H, and all these guys.

00:55:03.000 It's about your ability to engage with people.

00:55:07.000 I think the toughest part of politics, and not even a congressional or local, when you start talking about governor, presidential level politics, Eh, we're all raising money.

00:55:16.000 Do you come across on a TV screen?

00:55:19.000 Do people look at you and they get captured by you?

00:55:22.000 Can that translate into multiple communities?

00:55:26.000 That's the real power in presidential level politics, gubernatorial level politics right now.

00:55:32.000 And I think the fact, and this kind of goes back to where we started with media outlets.

00:55:36.000 The small clips, the people on Twitter, the Twitter guys, Instagram, and all these different modes of information sharing.

00:55:43.000 They're moving a needle much more. It's moving that needle.

00:55:46.000 It's one of the reasons why the big papers can't even sell papers anymore.

00:55:49.000 Well, you endorsed Trump back in April.

00:55:52.000 Talk a little bit about that. I mean, I assume that's a component of it because he has some of that ability.

00:55:58.000 Oh, he's got these. It's no question.

00:56:00.000 To me, modern politics and, you know, the left will go crazy, but there are two real standard bearers in modern politics.

00:56:09.000 And it's Trump and Obama.

00:56:11.000 They set the standard of what it is to bring a level of charisma and connection and energy and electricity into what was normally just a boring old fuddy-duddy, let me tell you about my 10-point plan on trade policy, Jim, and eh, okay, whatever.

00:56:30.000 I think that endorsing him is for multiple reasons.

00:56:33.000 One, on the world stage, we need a guy who can walk into the room with our adversaries and be like, all right, look, enough.

00:56:39.000 You're done. That was cute.

00:56:41.000 We're not doing that anymore. That's a big thing for us, for America, on multiple levels.

00:56:47.000 Number two, we need somebody who has been there, they've done this job, and they know and they're mission-focused on cleaning out this bureaucracy.

00:56:54.000 And I think with all that they've done to him, He's going to be mission-focused on cleaning out this bureaucracy.

00:57:00.000 Trump, his pitch seems to be to get revenge on the government.

00:57:04.000 I'm like, I don't know. That's good enough for me.

00:57:06.000 Good. I'm fine with this.

00:57:08.000 How about good? That's all?

00:57:09.000 That's plenty. Sign me up.

00:57:10.000 There's more, but that's great.

00:57:12.000 And it's not revenge, but I've been saying it here or there.

00:57:16.000 We're the ones who are really fighting for the soul of America and fighting for American democracy because you can't have institutions weaponized against your people.

00:57:24.000 It's not going to go well for our country.

00:57:26.000 And it might be cool for you to maintain power, but there's going to be a response to that.

00:57:32.000 And we got to clean it up.

00:57:34.000 We got to clean it up now. We don't have time to waste.

00:57:35.000 I think he's the man to do it.

00:57:37.000 He's going to be our nominee. 0.96

00:57:39.000 We are going to beat Joe Biden because, I mean, just good gosh, the man is terrible. 0.58

00:57:44.000 But we're going to beat him. 0.59

00:57:46.000 100%. That's it. Byron, I know you're speaking at Turning Point.

00:57:49.000 I look forward to checking that out. Thanks for doing this, and I really look forward to having you back and really seeing the other things that you're doing, because I think you've been an amazing voice, an unafraid voice in Congress, and I think we need a lot more of that.

00:57:59.000 So thanks for being here. I appreciate it.

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