Triggered - Donald Trump Jr - SPECIAL PROGRAMMING: Protecting Free Speech and the Censorship Crisis, Live from Rumble Toronto

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00:00:07.000 For decades, synonymous with entrepreneurialism, but for the last decade, synonymous for speaking straight from the heart, populist, freedom-oriented ideas to bust up the status quo.

00:00:22.000 And what a delight to have with us the premier talent of the Rumble live-streaming platform.

00:00:29.000 Rumble is the only place that could handle Donald Trump Jr.

00:00:34.000 I think he would break the system at any other live-streaming platform.

00:00:39.000 Only Rumble is that dedicated to freedom of speech from the right and the left, including Glenn Greenwald.

00:00:45.000 Donald Trump Jr.

00:00:46.000 is the Executive Vice President of the Trump Organization.

00:00:49.000 He's the author of best-selling books, including Triggered, and I love this title, Liberal Privilege.

00:00:55.000 Ain't that the truth?

00:00:57.000 Would you join with me in giving a great Canadian welcome to an ally of freedom around the world,

00:01:04.000 Donald J. Trump, Jr.

00:01:07.000 Wow!

00:01:27.000 Hello, Canada!

00:01:29.000 How are you guys doing today?

00:01:33.000 Everyone doing well?

00:01:36.000 Oh, it's good to be back in the People's Republic of Canada.

00:01:42.000 Yeah, I'm probably going to end up sitting down, and it's not because I'm lazy, it's because I had knee surgery on Tuesday.

00:01:52.000 Yeah, had a little meniscus issue after years of overdoing it.

00:01:56.000 Popped, was able to get in, get the surgery.

00:01:59.000 I called Chris, or I guess Kimberly called Chris, be like, Don's on the operating room table as we speak.

00:02:07.000 Friday could be a problem.

00:02:08.000 Chris was panicked.

00:02:09.000 And I said, you know, if I say I'm going to be somewhere, I'm going to be somewhere.

00:02:12.000 But I also avoided taking the meds because I don't want to be called Hunter Biden by the illustrious Oh, you don't think they would do that?

00:02:26.000 Oxy for a knee surgery and crack, they're almost the same thing and they're looking for that excuse.

00:02:32.000 But it's also good to be back in Toronto because I'll say this, I've had to do a lot of public speaking over the last few decades, but the first time I ever spoke in front of a large crowd, it was probably 200, 250 people, but at the time for me it was a pretty large crowd, I totally bombed.

00:02:54.000 It was a total disaster.

00:02:55.000 Because I had taken all this time to write a speech and get prepared and all of this stuff, and we were closing some other deal, and I had the old flip phone in my pocket.

00:03:03.000 This was a long time ago.

00:03:05.000 And I guess something was going wrong, and it started buzzing in my pocket repeatedly in my speech, and I... I had, like, a Joe Biden moment.

00:03:15.000 Right?

00:03:15.000 You know?

00:03:16.000 Not... Like, I wasn't lost.

00:03:20.000 Where is the crowd?

00:03:24.000 Can you believe this guy is the nuclear football?

00:03:28.000 So it wasn't quite as bad as what we see from the leader of the free world.

00:03:32.000 In air quotes.

00:03:33.000 Big, big air quotes.

00:03:36.000 But it was pretty bad.

00:03:37.000 And so at that point, I said, you know what?

00:03:39.000 I'm probably going to have to do a lot of this in my life.

00:03:42.000 So if I'm going to be terrible at it, I'm going to put in exactly zero effort.

00:03:47.000 And so the next time I got up and gave a speech, I had like two or three bullet points.

00:03:49.000 I spoke for like 45 minutes.

00:03:50.000 It worked out great.

00:03:51.000 And so it was sort of amazing.

00:03:54.000 So it worked out perfectly, because it was one of the rare instances in life where doing much less Actually worked out right that's I'm not saying that's a piece of advice I'd want to give anyone that's not usually the case it's usually a disaster but in this case for me it worked out quite well so you know I was excited about that so it's good to be back here in Toronto because there's honestly so much to talk about.

00:04:17.000 When you look at what's happening right now.

00:04:21.000 In the United States.

00:04:23.000 In Canada.

00:04:25.000 In the UK.

00:04:27.000 In Australia and New Zealand, all of these places where, you know, honestly, prior to COVID, we're like, we're all sort of aligned.

00:04:33.000 We're, we're for freedom and, you know, kind of free speech.

00:04:37.000 And yet you look around right now and you say not so much.

00:04:44.000 Right.

00:04:44.000 I mean, for me, I can do, you know, America off the top of my head because you know, the stuff that's going on there is rather insane as someone who's been at least a target of most of that, or, you know, Peripherally, right?

00:04:58.000 I heard you guys talking with Kimberly and Glenn about, you know, Russia, Russia, Russia.

00:05:02.000 You know, I was the number two target of Russia, Russia, Russia.

00:05:05.000 I was guilty of treason according to the FBI, the CIA, the head of the Intelligence Committee.

00:05:10.000 You know, kind of a big deal.

00:05:11.000 It's a crime punishable by death.

00:05:15.000 Kimberly is a lovely, cuddly woman.

00:05:17.000 But, you know, when you're thinking about that in the back of your head, I'm like, I just don't know.

00:05:20.000 It's not been a great day, Kim.

00:05:23.000 She got me through it.

00:05:25.000 But, This stuff is actually happening in our countries.

00:05:31.000 I look at the United States when we were told all these things about how much of a fascist Trump was, and how much of a dictator they are, and yet I'm looking at the entire Democrat apparatus in the United States right now, and they seem to be acting awfully a lot like the fascists!

00:05:48.000 The people who are screaming fascism the loudest seem to either not know what it means, Or just have a incredible lack of historical understanding because they're doing all of the things they are accusing others of doing, which is sort of a part of fascism.

00:06:03.000 But as we've watched that play out, I start saying, well, you know, how bad is it in Canada?

00:06:08.000 In America, you have people actively weaponizing their DOJ to lock up their foremost political rival, the leader of the other parties, frankly, the leader in most of the polling, to be the president of the United States again.

00:06:21.000 And yet, That doesn't stop them from trying to put him in jail for 700 years, and in one case, possibly the death penalty as well.

00:06:30.000 Now, for us, that's like an average Tuesday.

00:06:33.000 No, at this point, it is.

00:06:34.000 It's funny.

00:06:34.000 People are like, so how's your dad doing it?

00:06:36.000 Like, I literally call him, and even, you know, in our family, you get so accustomed to this.

00:06:41.000 You shouldn't.

00:06:44.000 Right?

00:06:44.000 It's not a place that you're supposed to be accustomed to being, like, almost thrown in jail, even if it's for nonsense.

00:06:50.000 The problem with nonsense, we also call it bullshit. 0.99

00:06:54.000 The problem with that is that you still have to deal with nonsense or bullshit, right? 0.99

00:06:57.000 It doesn't make it go away, even if it is. 0.99

00:07:00.000 Even if everyone knows it.

00:07:02.000 Because the powers that be, they couldn't care less.

00:07:06.000 They're doing it for a reason.

00:07:08.000 And so people ask, you know, how is he doing?

00:07:10.000 How is he handling all of this?

00:07:11.000 Honestly, I call him and he goes, it's like, so hey man, you doing good?

00:07:15.000 Yeah, what are you talking about?

00:07:18.000 I'm like, well, you know, it's 700 years.

00:07:20.000 I understand that you are a young and vibrant man.

00:07:23.000 It just seems like a long time.

00:07:27.000 You know, I mean, in the grand scheme of punishment, it feels like maybe it's a little disproportionate.

00:07:33.000 You know, like, I know, I know, we're gonna stop mean tweets, but you know, raise your hand here if you would like some mean tweets and world peace right about now.

00:07:46.000 You know, mean tweets, world peace, cheap gas, like, I don't know.

00:07:52.000 You know, I don't know, I look at, you know, Again, I go back to the comparison because it's so funny to me, right? 0.70

00:07:58.000 It's like a person with a brain.

00:08:02.000 And I look at, you know, sort of what they did, tried to do to me, what they're doing to my father, and then I look at sort of the Biden comparison, right?

00:08:07.000 Like, and again, I understand that I am not the upstanding human being that Hunter Biden is, but, but I have a feeling if that was my laptop, you'd have heard about it!

00:08:23.000 I have a suspicious feeling that if I was in any one of those videos with crack, hence why I clearly could not take my meds today, because if I, you know, if I slurred one word, he's high, he's on cocaine, they say that more about anything.

00:08:42.000 I was like, it's the most amazing.

00:08:43.000 Now, in my family, just understand, it's a capital offense to be low energy, right?

00:08:47.000 That's just, you saw what happened to Jeb.

00:08:51.000 It's like, out the window of Trump Tower.

00:08:53.000 So, you know, you have to be high energy.

00:08:54.000 It doesn't mean you're doing coke.

00:08:56.000 But I say stuff and I'm energetic and I'm enthusiastic.

00:08:59.000 It's like, Don Jr., he's out there, he's on cocaine.

00:09:02.000 I'm like, you actually have video.

00:09:04.000 Like, you have video of, like, repeatedly.

00:09:07.000 Like, not like one video.

00:09:09.000 Like, of that guy doing all sorts of stuff.

00:09:11.000 And it's like, no, no, no, that's different.

00:09:13.000 That's addiction.

00:09:14.000 I go...

00:09:17.000 And I understand addiction.

00:09:19.000 We all know people who have had to deal with these issues.

00:09:20.000 We have family.

00:09:21.000 We have friends.

00:09:22.000 It's a terrible thing.

00:09:24.000 It does not absolve you of everything else you've ever done in life, right?

00:09:27.000 You can't just take a billion dollars from China.

00:09:32.000 China.

00:09:33.000 If you're going to do it, folks, you must use the proper vernacular.

00:09:46.000 If you don't, you're xenophobic.

00:09:51.000 China.

00:09:52.000 So, remember, like, China, just so we're clear, just in case people didn't know this intuitively, you'd think, you know, some things that should be intuitive are not so intuitive these days.

00:10:04.000 China does not give $1 billion of investment dollars to crackheads.

00:10:09.000 Just so we're clear.

00:10:11.000 That is not part of their due diligence process.

00:10:14.000 They do not do this, right?

00:10:16.000 They do that if they're buying someone who has access to power, which of course they do.

00:10:20.000 It's not like us, or probably, yeah, honestly, probably you guys may be worse than us in terms of Canada versus the US, but there's not like a DEI program in Canada where it's like, you know what?

00:10:31.000 We have all these money managers.

00:10:32.000 This guy went to MIT, this guy's got an IQ of 190, this guy's... You know what we're underrepresented in? 0.66

00:10:40.000 Crackheads! 1.00

00:10:43.000 We need to spread this... They don't do that, of course, right?

00:10:46.000 But, you know, minor details.

00:10:47.000 It doesn't matter.

00:10:48.000 Then he's on the payroll in Ukraine.

00:10:49.000 You'd think... You'd think that'd be a problem.

00:10:53.000 If you're on the payroll in a company, working in an energy company, in a business you know nothing about, in a language you don't speak, for a job you don't have to show up to...

00:11:03.000 I was like, hey dad, can we just switch parties and like run as a Democrat?

00:11:07.000 Because I would be a billionaire tomorrow!

00:11:09.000 Like, this would be so easy.

00:11:11.000 You know, a couple hundred grand a month for years, no one knows why.

00:11:15.000 But what's scary is our own media won't ask.

00:11:19.000 As we're on the brink of World War III, with the world's largest nuclear superpower by volume of, you know, intercontinental ballistic missiles with warheads, Do you think maybe any of our policy is guided by the fact that these guys are sitting on information that we haven't even yet seen?

00:11:40.000 Meaning, can we name an enemy, I don't want to say of America, but of, you know, let's call it, you know, freedom-loving nations or freedom-loving peoples that do not have a Hunter Biden laptop?

00:11:51.000 Or a story?

00:11:53.000 Or some sort of connection?

00:11:55.000 And the fact that our media won't even ask those questions Are we making life and death decisions?

00:12:01.000 Are we in America, for example, spending 160 trillion dollars, billion dollars, whatever it is, doesn't matter.

00:12:07.000 They don't care.

00:12:08.000 That's the war machine.

00:12:11.000 Are we doing it because someone has undue influence over the powers that be?

00:12:16.000 At any other time in history, that would be a question a journalist would actually ask.

00:12:26.000 It would be like the only question.

00:12:29.000 Just like you would think they'd be curious about the stuff going on, let's say, in the cases in New York.

00:12:36.000 You mean, the judge's daughter is one of the most prolific Democrat fundraisers. 0.94

00:12:42.000 Depending on which way he votes, or goes in this case, his daughter's entire financial well-being, there's actually, even in New York, as crazy as New York is, even there, there's a rule, you have six degrees of separation, not one, which is a daughter, that would prohibit him from even overseeing the case, but Once you've turned into a banana republic, that no longer matters.

00:13:04.000 Right?

00:13:04.000 It's totally irrelevant.

00:13:07.000 So you say, of course it doesn't matter.

00:13:09.000 So you're getting to rule and overrule and all these things.

00:13:12.000 Does it matter that, you know, I don't know, the star witness is someone who's convicted of perjury, spent time in jail, lost his law license.

00:13:22.000 No, it doesn't matter because if we get what we want, the ends justify the means.

00:13:27.000 Again.

00:13:29.000 These are coming from the people who scream about fascism.

00:13:34.000 Another case in New York, the New York State, the Attorney General going after us.

00:13:41.000 Guess we got, what was it?

00:13:43.000 Half a billion dollar penalty for paying back banks.

00:13:49.000 Who knew?

00:13:51.000 I was like, wait a minute.

00:13:53.000 So you're saying you get in trouble for actually paying them back when the star witness of that case is actually on the stand being like, we don't understand.

00:14:00.000 We were paid back in full with interest.

00:14:03.000 No one ever missed a payment.

00:14:05.000 We wanted to do more business with Trump, not less.

00:14:07.000 No, you are the victim.

00:14:11.000 No, we're here with a, we wanted to do more.

00:14:12.000 It was a feather in our cap.

00:14:15.000 It doesn't matter.

00:14:18.000 Just this week.

00:14:19.000 And again, the silence from the media is so telling, because you sort of see anything that they avoid, anything that they won't touch.

00:14:27.000 You know how important it must be, but it's sort of a big deal when Jack Smith and his team of prosecutors are found to have been tampering with the evidence.

00:14:35.000 Right?

00:14:36.000 My father stole classified documents that were his, and he could declassify.

00:14:39.000 I'm still trying to figure that one out, but it doesn't matter.

00:14:44.000 They do a raid on Mar-a-Lago using the FBI's hostage rescue team.

00:14:48.000 Not just, hey, you know, they were working with the lawyers for months, whatever it is here, like, come in and look.

00:14:53.000 No, no, no, they show up with the hostage rescue team because, you know, I don't know, maybe they thought I was there.

00:14:59.000 That's what I like to believe.

00:15:00.000 I'd be like, they thought I was there.

00:15:01.000 I was gonna put up a fight, you know?

00:15:03.000 Make me feel tough.

00:15:06.000 But you don't show up to do a search warrant with the hostage rescue team.

00:15:10.000 The hostage rescue team is who they send When, like, a group of terrorists takes over a plane of civilians with machine guns.

00:15:18.000 That's not who serves a search warrant.

00:15:19.000 Unless, of course, they're acting again like fascists and trying to send a very clear message.

00:15:28.000 And so this is what we've dealt with in the United States.

00:15:31.000 You know, we were told Trump was so terrible, all these things, and yet you look four years later and you say, I don't know.

00:15:38.000 Seems like the world was a lot safer.

00:15:41.000 We were signing peace deals in the Middle East rather than starting wars.

00:15:46.000 Yeah.

00:15:47.000 I remember it was not all that long ago when like, I don't know, a peace deal in the Middle

00:15:58.000 East was what, like the holy grail of like geopolitical like accomplishment?

00:16:04.000 Yeah.

00:16:05.000 Right?

00:16:05.000 Like, everyone talked about it for so long.

00:16:07.000 Like, we're gonna do this.

00:16:08.000 Everyone said they were gonna do it.

00:16:09.000 Everyone said they were gonna do it.

00:16:10.000 Well, we actually did it five times.

00:16:14.000 Gone.

00:16:16.000 Back to war.

00:16:17.000 Business as usual.

00:16:18.000 Right?

00:16:19.000 There's no money in peace.

00:16:21.000 But we saw that.

00:16:22.000 But we were told, no, no, no.

00:16:23.000 They're doing it all wrong.

00:16:24.000 Why?

00:16:24.000 Why are they doing it all wrong?

00:16:26.000 Like, you know, we were doing it all wrong in North Korea as well.

00:16:29.000 I remember that one.

00:16:30.000 I watched that with fascination.

00:16:31.000 Because I'm saying, wait a minute.

00:16:32.000 You're doing it all wrong.

00:16:34.000 They haven't been sending missiles up in the air.

00:16:35.000 They haven't been testing nukes.

00:16:38.000 We're doing it all wrong.

00:16:40.000 Well, why do you say that, sir?

00:16:42.000 Well, I was leading the delegation for 47 years since the end of the Korean War.

00:16:45.000 I was like, well, what did you accomplish in that 47 years?

00:16:50.000 Well, you know, this is the way it's been done.

00:16:52.000 I go, yeah, but you've actually accomplished nothing.

00:16:55.000 Have you even had a meeting with the person?

00:16:57.000 Well, no.

00:16:59.000 They're dictators.

00:17:00.000 I'm like, what?

00:17:01.000 You still got to deal with them?

00:17:03.000 That sort of rose-colored glasses, let's pretend we live in a world that doesn't exist, doesn't accomplish all that much.

00:17:09.000 But it didn't matter.

00:17:11.000 Remember the outrage from the media when my father invited the leaders of the Taliban to Camp David?

00:17:17.000 How dare he do that!

00:17:19.000 Well, I don't know, they're indiscriminately killing Americans with the help of Iran and IEDs and all this stuff, so he brought them down to Camp David, had a conversation.

00:17:28.000 This was a funny one.

00:17:29.000 I remember my father tells me the story afterwards, you know, a while afterwards, but He's like, had the leader of the Taliban at Camp David and

00:17:36.000 he showed him a satellite image of his home.

00:17:38.000 Mr. President, why do you show me this?

00:17:45.000 It's a satellite image.

00:17:57.000 It seems so easy, right?

00:17:59.000 Like, why do you show me this?

00:18:00.000 Yeah, I don't know, you can take a wild guess.

00:18:05.000 But amazingly enough, then, not an American was killed for 18 months.

00:18:11.000 Because the message was loud and clear.

00:18:14.000 They actually had resolve.

00:18:16.000 There was some strength. 1.00

00:18:17.000 It wasn't like what our respective leaders exude now, which is stupidity and weakness. 1.00

00:18:23.000 You see that every day, right? 1.00

00:18:25.000 And you saw it immediately after the transition.

00:18:28.000 Biden tries to accelerate the thing so he can get credit for finishing Afghanistan.

00:18:32.000 13 Americans are killed in one week.

00:18:37.000 It was terrible, ma'am.

00:18:38.000 Hey, we can disagree on politics.

00:18:41.000 We can disagree on a lot.

00:18:42.000 As someone who was sitting there, it was one of the times I truly had disgust for what had happened to our country.

00:18:51.000 And I remember it very clearly, because I was sitting there.

00:18:53.000 I picked up my son, Spencer.

00:18:55.000 He was nine at the time, I guess.

00:18:57.000 And I picked him up from school.

00:18:59.000 And we were doing a father-son dinner.

00:19:04.000 And I grabbed Spencer.

00:19:06.000 Hey, Dad?

00:19:09.000 Why would we leave $86 billion in equipment to the Taliban? 0.66

00:19:13.000 I'm like, solid point.

00:19:18.000 Dad, why did we pull out the military before the civilians and our friends?

00:19:24.000 He didn't know what the word biometric meant.

00:19:26.000 Remember when we left them the biometric scanners?

00:19:28.000 I'm not going to be like one of these liberals on CNN, like, my three-week-old baby was crying about Nuclear proliferation on the Korean peninsula!

00:19:37.000 He didn't know what it meant, but he knew we left them a methodology by which to identify who had helped us for 20 years.

00:19:43.000 And remember, the adults were supposed to be back in charge at this point, right?

00:19:47.000 And my nine-year-old is asking incredibly reasonable questions that the geniuses in charge, the adults, couldn't answer.

00:19:59.000 And I remember just being struck at how insane this was, that this was going on, and then you had sort of the piece de resistance, which was Anthony Blinken getting on stage, our Secretary of State, getting on stage before Congress and the American people about this disastrous withdrawal that killed 13 innocent Americans.

00:20:21.000 We are, and I quote, we are shocked and dismayed that the Taliban did not install a more diverse and inclusive government in

00:20:31.000 Afghanistan.

00:20:32.000 And I'm...

00:20:33.000 I'm...

00:20:34.000 No, at this point I'm sitting there going, someone's mess...

00:20:41.000 Like I'm the star of the Truman Show.

00:20:43.000 You know what I'm talking about?

00:20:46.000 I'm waiting for a TV camera to fall out of my ceiling and be like, hey Don, we've just been punking you.

00:20:54.000 You know, like the Jim Carrey movie.

00:20:55.000 Like, they're following me around, like, they're just, how far can we mess with this guy before he loses his mind?

00:21:00.000 And the answer is, they were getting close.

00:21:02.000 Like, the adults that are back in charge told me, they are shocked and dismayed.

00:21:07.000 Like, hey, if you want to be dismayed, that's fine. 0.89

00:21:12.000 But, like, you think the Taliban that, like, last week were throwing homosexuals off of building tops? 0.96

00:21:18.000 You thought they were going to have, like, a seat at the table? 0.93

00:21:24.000 I mean, but think about it, right?

00:21:26.000 Think of how insane... These people are making trillion-dollar decisions.

00:21:31.000 Trillion-dollar... More, and with our lives, and our children's, and their futures.

00:21:37.000 These are the people... You're shocked and dismayed?

00:21:40.000 Shocked?

00:21:41.000 What, you think there was going to be a trans coalition because Justin Trudeau wants to... I mean... Justin says they're important!

00:21:48.000 Oh, yeah!

00:21:49.000 We're going to give Leah Thomas the incredibly awesome They, them, zim, zur, swimmer from my alma mater.

00:21:58.000 Now, by the way, I'm glad the rules haven't gone into effect because I'd have been thrown in jail for hate speech already in Canada.

00:22:05.000 Clearly having some fun while there is a lot of truth behind what I'm saying.

00:22:10.000 But, like, these are people that have enslaved women and children in sexual slavery.

00:22:16.000 You think they're going to have a seat?

00:22:18.000 They don't let them learn how to read.

00:22:20.000 They're going to have a say in power?

00:22:23.000 And they're saying this seriously, like, on a world stage, like, we've been at war for 20 years!

00:22:30.000 You don't understand that?

00:22:34.000 And that's when you realize how scary it is.

00:22:37.000 So, you know, there's countless examples of that, like, for Canada.

00:22:40.000 I may sit down because of my knee, but I was going through it, and I'm seeing what they're doing here.

00:22:51.000 Canadian court in British Columbia ruled that misgendering someone, misgendering someone is a human right, because someone who is gender fluid, which means I guess they can go back and forth at their will, so how do I know if they're zim-zer, they-them, she-it, what, like, they're gender fluid, they're gonna make people go to jail over this? 0.87

00:23:14.000 Someone comes up to me with a beard I'm supposed to know, or I'm supposed to conform to their every whim at any second, Whenever they deem, they can flip back and forth.

00:23:27.000 What kind of insanity is this?

00:23:28.000 You know, my daughter, she's playing in a U.S. 0.96

00:23:30.000 Open qualifier golf.

00:23:31.000 She's a great athlete, a good golfer.

00:23:32.000 She's doing that right now as we speak.

00:23:36.000 Guess what?

00:23:37.000 She's a phenomenal athlete. 1.00

00:23:38.000 She wakes up at 5 o'clock in the morning every day to work out, and then stretch, and then goes to school, and then plays 18, and then stretches and works out again, then does her homework, goes to bed at 11 o'clock at night, and repeats My son who barely plays golf will out-drive her because he's 15, but he's 6 foot 205.

00:23:59.000 He's not a better athlete than her.

00:24:02.000 It's just not the same, but we're supposed to pretend that there aren't gender differences.

00:24:07.000 We've got to make sure, guys, that we're using gender-inclusive language, apparently, because 0.98

00:24:21.000 we should avoid pronouns he and she and avoid gendering titles.

00:24:27.000 Instead, we must say firefighter instead of fireman because, you know, why change like 0.98

00:24:31.000 a hundred years of basic vernacular to accommodate the 0.02% of people that are freaking lunatics? 0.87

00:24:44.000 And by the way, to be clear, and I've said this, I've gotten in trouble with conservative 0.99

00:24:47.000 Hey, if you want to be trans as an adult, I don't give a crap. 1.00

00:24:51.000 I don't want to pay for it. 0.99

00:24:52.000 I don't want to hear about it ad nauseum.

00:24:55.000 I don't think you're special.

00:24:56.000 I don't think I have to conform to whatever the hell it is that you want me to conform at the time

00:25:01.000 and stay the hell away from our toddlers. 1.00

00:25:05.000 It doesn't seem that complicated and yet it's the kid one that drives me the nuts most, right?

00:25:32.000 Because, man, they're trying hard.

00:25:34.000 Right?

00:25:34.000 You notice there's never, like, a drag queen story hour at, like, an old age home.

00:25:42.000 No, no, no, like, I don't know, like... Am I wrong?

00:25:47.000 Like, whenever Drag Queen Story Hour magically appeared, I was like, strange that they're always going after the toddlers! 1.00

00:25:57.000 Like, there's so many people that you could read to.

00:25:59.000 You could read to the disabled.

00:26:01.000 I'm sure there's plenty of military veterans that would actually probably get a kick out of, like, laughing about whatever the hell's going on right now.

00:26:07.000 Like, you know, probably not the intended effect, but, you know, whatever.

00:26:11.000 Nonetheless, they never seem interested in that.

00:26:15.000 You know, I noticed it I guess it was down in Florida.

00:26:19.000 They were protesting because they wanted to be lewd and naked in the streets.

00:26:23.000 They said, you can't do it because there's children around.

00:26:26.000 We're not interested in doing it with children.

00:26:28.000 Yada, yada, yada, yada.

00:26:30.000 Well, then children won't be allowed. 0.91

00:26:31.000 Well, then we're not doing it.

00:26:32.000 it. I'm like, guys, I don't know about you, but if that's your logic, you're probably

00:26:38.000 a groomer.

00:26:39.000 But as I see that stuff happen more and more, I do honestly wonder whether it's, you know,

00:26:51.000 the men playing women's sports, the people clearly going after our children.

00:26:58.000 I see it in the States as well as here.

00:27:00.000 Parents are not allowed to have a say. 1.00

00:27:02.000 If the child gets manipulated, and you know, in all fairness, children are by far the most impressionable group in society, that and morons. 0.99

00:27:14.000 Parents aren't allowed to have a say. 0.99

00:27:17.000 The school says, no, you know, my rainbow-haired teacher convinced them that they should have a permanent sex change operation.

00:27:24.000 They should be on hormones for the rest of their life.

00:27:27.000 And, you know, if it doesn't work out, everyone's immune.

00:27:31.000 The doctors are immune.

00:27:33.000 The drugs are immune.

00:27:34.000 You know, when they do what they do in America, which seems to be, I'd say, per capita.

00:27:38.000 Meaning, per capita, by far, the most violent group of individuals right now is the radical trans agenda, right? 1.00

00:27:43.000 When you see the amount of shootings that happen, the amount of people that are killed, yadda yadda.

00:27:48.000 You know, for something that makes up such a small fraction of the population, and yet, also such a powerful fraction of the population.

00:27:56.000 When you think about, what, 0.2% realistically?

00:28:01.000 They can do no wrong.

00:28:03.000 They can shoot up a school of Christian children, and their manifesto is protected because, God forbid, someone figures out that maybe it wasn't a great idea to put a three-year-old on drugs for their entire life without knowing the side effects. 0.66

00:28:16.000 There's a reason the recidivism rate is in the mid-90s of people that said, hey, that was a mistake, because we're taking advantage of the most impressionable.

00:28:23.000 And yet, if you actually do anything about that, here it's becoming a crime, according to the stuff that I'm reading.

00:28:29.000 I mean, think about that.

00:28:31.000 A parent has no say About what a teacher can convince a child to do, essentially, if they try to stop it, they get thrown in jail.

00:28:41.000 That same parent would get thrown in jail if they allowed that kid to go buy a pack of cigarettes.

00:28:49.000 Where's the logic in this?

00:28:51.000 By the way, where are the mothers? 0.99

00:28:55.000 Where are the parents?

00:28:57.000 Because, and honestly, that's what scares me perhaps a little bit about Canada.

00:29:00.000 Not this group, but And it scares me about America too, frankly, because, you know, whether it was COVID and the lockdowns and everything, the amount of people that went willingly along like sheep, just total capitulation, you know, government knows best, is truly scary.

00:29:18.000 I mean, I remember during, you know, watching the initial Wuhan stuff, I'm like, like, hey guys, like, how come no one's saying like, of course it came from the lab in Wuhan, Remember this one?

00:29:32.000 How dare you say that?

00:29:33.000 I got cancelled.

00:29:34.000 I was thrown off social.

00:29:37.000 They're like, you're not a virologist.

00:29:39.000 I'm like, I don't have to be.

00:29:40.000 If you have above a single digit IQ, of course it came from the lab that studies the exact virus in question that happened to be exactly at ground zero.

00:29:53.000 They're like, no, no, no.

00:29:56.000 No, no, no.

00:30:00.000 Three feet outside of the lab!

00:30:02.000 Just total coincidence, folks.

00:30:06.000 But the amount of people that went on and believed it.

00:30:09.000 The same thing.

00:30:10.000 You know, I still see to this day people driving in cars by themselves with masks on.

00:30:14.000 I'm like, hey, hey guys, honestly, like if it doesn't work out for us this election, I'm like,

00:30:25.000 Meteor 2025.

00:30:29.000 Meteor 2025!

00:30:31.000 Because we deserve it!

00:30:35.000 Because we deserve it at this point!

00:30:37.000 You know, so, again, I kept going through the stuff in... Oh, this was a good one.

00:30:42.000 I read an article, it was like last week, I was like, I gotta write this down because it was so funny.

00:30:46.000 I guess, you know, Canada, I mean, you had a great army, you fought with us in Afghanistan and all these places, and, you know, had like nukes and aircraft carriers, and just last week, Your commanding general literally said that they could not lead a security mission into Haiti right now to stop barbecue the cannibal.

00:31:09.000 Have you read this story?

00:31:11.000 I mean, you guys fought in Afghanistan, and now you don't have the capability?

00:31:16.000 You know, now we get it.

00:31:17.000 Like, everyone's got to be a transgeneral or something like that, so that takes a lot of time and energy probably doesn't end up allowing you to recruit the best.

00:31:24.000 Shocked to hear that.

00:31:26.000 No, no, when they do that in America, the recruiting numbers are down and we can't figure it out.

00:31:30.000 I'm like, you can't figure it out?

00:31:38.000 I got a couple ideas.

00:31:39.000 I don't know.

00:31:41.000 Stop doing drag queen story hour on a military base. 0.98

00:31:46.000 No, well, you know, it was like this.

00:31:48.000 You guys watch like the CIA recruitment video.

00:31:51.000 This was like, this was like 18 months ago.

00:31:52.000 The CIA.

00:31:54.000 They do a recruitment video because, you know, the adults are back in charge.

00:31:59.000 And it was a guy who apparently suffered from extreme, extreme anxiety.

00:32:05.000 I'm like, okay.

00:32:06.000 Like, I'm so grateful for the CIA!

00:32:12.000 Despite the fact that I suffer from extreme anxiety, they recruited me and I thrive!

00:32:18.000 I'm like, Jesus Christ.

00:32:20.000 Like, China's sitting there like, oh, thank God. 1.00

00:32:25.000 Putin's like, excellent!

00:32:29.000 I mean, you know, I put the over-under.

00:32:32.000 Like, if the Chinese capture this guy in intelligence, the over-under on how long he breaks is less than one second. 0.59

00:32:41.000 And yet, you know, it's become commonplace.

00:32:44.000 So, the fact that common sense has just totally disappeared It's gone off the table.

00:32:52.000 Canada, they're considering the world's first national 2S LGBTQIA plus monument, which will only cost $13 million, but I'm sure there'll be a lot of money left over once they steal all of the money by raising your capital gains tax to 66%. 1.00

00:33:10.000 As Margaret Thatcher said, folks, the problem with socialism is eventually you run out of other people's money.

00:33:15.000 Now, in looking at this, though, I was like, What the hell is 2S?

00:33:23.000 Because I actually talk crap about this stuff almost for a living at this point, so I was like, I am fairly well informed. 0.83

00:33:29.000 No, no, no. 0.77

00:33:31.000 2S.

00:33:32.000 Two spirit.

00:33:35.000 Who knew?

00:33:38.000 I mean, no, for people who don't believe in God, Seems like a stretch, but they have no religion.

00:33:46.000 But I guess their religion is leftism. 0.89

00:33:51.000 It's insanity.

00:33:52.000 It's the Marxism that they're pushing.

00:33:54.000 And so, it aims at advancing the rights and equality of two-spirit, lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, queer, intersex, and additional sexually and gender diverse two-SLBG people in Canada.

00:34:08.000 Hey guys, probably not the best use of our funds.

00:34:11.000 In America, we're graduating children where literally there are entire districts where no one can read or do English, but they will know the 4,376 genders.

00:34:23.000 I'm not sure how it'll apply in the workforce.

00:34:26.000 Minor details, doesn't matter.

00:34:28.000 We'll put them on a government program and they'll be reliable liberal voters for life.

00:34:34.000 But the point is this.

00:34:37.000 You're going to have an election coming up soon.

00:34:39.000 What do you guys think?

00:34:39.000 Do you think they're going to do it this year?

00:34:42.000 So they can ride with Trump and try to use him as the crudgel?

00:34:45.000 Or do you think that's actually helpful at this point?

00:34:47.000 Because people are finally awake to the insanity that is going on right now.

00:34:51.000 Which one do you guys think?

00:34:52.000 I'm actually genuinely curious.

00:34:53.000 Or do you think they wait until next year?

00:34:55.000 Let tempers...

00:34:56.000 Because I think right now it may actually help us because the amount of people that would never have voted Republican or would have never been Trump that are coming up to me be like, hey man, I was really wrong. 0.99

00:35:07.000 These people are out of their damn minds. 0.98

00:35:10.000 It's astonishing. 0.99

00:35:11.000 And I don't mean, you know, I don't mean crowds like this. 0.99

00:35:13.000 I mean, places that you like wouldn't expect, like when they run up to me, I'm like, oh boy, am I going to get my ass kicked right now? 0.97

00:35:19.000 And, and so it's, it's interesting. 0.98

00:35:22.000 You know, I, I see.

00:35:24.000 The disparity of treatment, even though it was interesting, I was talking with Chris, you know, Pawlowski, as we were talking about this event.

00:35:31.000 And he was like, you know, they called us the other day, a day or two ago.

00:35:35.000 They were going to basically extort you for $50,000, because we had to bring in toilets for the protesters.

00:35:43.000 Now, I saw no protesters, which actually kind of disappoints me, because I feel like I'm losing my touch.

00:35:50.000 I'm like, you know, in America, I get people that really hate me to show up, and it's kind of fun.

00:35:56.000 Most of them are, let's just say they're not sending their best.

00:35:59.000 By the way, you guys aren't doing your best either, because I saw them write Free Palestine, but they misspelt it at one of the universities right here.

00:36:08.000 I'm like, I don't know, guys.

00:36:10.000 Hey, you know, notice they spelt free correctly, though.

00:36:15.000 Because if it's free, it's for me, for these people.

00:36:19.000 Free they got right, but if you cared that much about Palestine, you're like, I don't know. 0.99

00:36:26.000 Doesn't seem like it's too much to ask you to spell it correctly.

00:36:33.000 Minor details.

00:36:34.000 Minor details.

00:36:38.000 They had to spend $50,000.

00:36:39.000 The idea, obviously, was not to promote free speech or alternate viewpoints.

00:36:44.000 The idea was to make it too costly and penal to actually put on the event.

00:36:48.000 because I noticed that the truckers who were also peacefully protesting,

00:36:52.000 who were incredible patriots both here and in the United States...

00:36:55.000 Well done!

00:37:16.000 Well done.

00:37:18.000 So we have one of them here!

00:37:28.000 I noticed that the truckers were not afforded the same luxury of having the government pay for their bathrooms.

00:37:34.000 I know that they were arrested.

00:37:38.000 I know that they were debanked.

00:37:40.000 I know they were threatened with their livelihoods and their jobs.

00:37:45.000 And yet, if you're protesting a peaceful event, under the guise of Marxism, Lestivism, Trudeauism, which may be further left than all of that, they're going to make other people pay for it.

00:37:59.000 So it shows the disparate treatment.

00:38:01.000 But thank you for doing that, by the way.

00:38:03.000 I think it was such an awakening, even for us.

00:38:10.000 Yeah.

00:38:15.000 And let everyone else know I said it, because the media will never do it, but...

00:38:19.000 But no, whether it was there, whether it was the trucker convoy in America down by the border, I mean, it feels like the truckers are actually leading the charge of patriotism and freedom in our countries.

00:38:29.000 And then, as of last week, apparently it's also like frat boys in like pastel shorts.

00:38:35.000 Which I did not have on my bingo card, to be clear, but like, I'll take it because they're the ones saving the American flag from being taken down by radicals.

00:38:45.000 Not people who support, perhaps, the peaceful existence of the Palestinian people, but people who are actively encouraging and egging on Hamas, a terror organization.

00:38:59.000 That you're not allowed to say Hamas?

00:39:01.000 I'm sorry.

00:39:02.000 They're not a terror- yeah.

00:39:04.000 Yeah, guess what?

00:39:04.000 If I get thrown in jail for calling Hamas a terror organization in Canada, guess what?

00:39:08.000 I promise- please make me a martyr.

00:39:11.000 Please! 0.61

00:39:12.000 Like, just do it!

00:39:19.000 And in all fairness, I have a feeling whatever jail I end up in Canada, the people will be so much nicer than they would be in America.

00:39:25.000 Oh, it's a boot time you're here, Don!

00:39:27.000 It's a- I'm just kidding.

00:39:30.000 Couldn't help myself.

00:39:32.000 But with that, folks, I want to bring up the entire panel.

00:39:37.000 I think we all understand what's at stake.

00:39:40.000 I also think we all understand how far we have fallen.

00:39:42.000 But it's time that we all start having these conversations.

00:39:47.000 I try to do it with humor.

00:39:48.000 Everyone's going to have a different way.

00:39:49.000 There's ways to do it respectfully.

00:39:52.000 But I think people have to understand just how fragile it is.

00:39:54.000 When you look at what's going on in the world, when you look at what they've done, When you look at the places, again, as I opened up with, that we looked at, like, hold on, get out of here!

00:40:04.000 When you look at what's happening, understand that it does not get better from here.

00:40:10.000 You know, just because, like, if they can do it to a Trump, right, someone who has a following, who has the means to fight back, who has, you know, the will to fight back, and if they can do it to someone like that, who won't they do it to?

00:40:27.000 More importantly, if they do do it to that, doesn't it send the message that they're going after anyone who will stand in their way?

00:40:32.000 So we need to collectively make sure that people are awake to exactly what's going on, that we can combat this insanity before the incredible things that our countries were founded on, the freedoms that we've enjoyed for so long, that we fought for, blood, sweat, and tears, through generations, before that disappears, because it is very much on the table, and they're not even pretending about it anymore.

00:40:53.000 So thank you so much, Toronto.

00:40:54.000 So it's great to be here.

00:40:56.000 Thank you.

00:41:12.000 Ladies and gentlemen, Donald J. Trump Jr., thank you for making the journey.

00:41:17.000 Unbelievable.

00:41:21.000 Well, we have less than an hour left, but we've got the whole panel on the stage.

00:41:26.000 You've already met everyone except for the keystone of today's event, a person without whom we would not be here.

00:41:33.000 We would not be here today because, as Don Jr.

00:41:35.000 said, there was a $50,000 extortion by the government landlord, the Crown Corporation called Canada Lands Company, that tried to block this event.

00:41:46.000 And were it not for the resources of Rumble.com, we would have been Canceled by the governments.

00:41:53.000 That's an example of a dedication to freedom of speech that you rarely see.

00:41:58.000 Without further ado, let me turn the mic over to our host in so many ways, including the host of so many freedom-oriented

00:42:06.000 live streams, a Canadian who's done well in the world, amazing work,

00:42:11.000 Chris Pavlovsky.

00:42:12.000 Thank you.

00:42:30.000 Thank you, Ezra.

00:42:31.000 First off, this wouldn't have been possible without Rebel helping us out and getting this off the ground.

00:42:36.000 So thank you to Rebel.

00:42:42.000 And to the Rumble staff, I don't know if you guys know, but we put this event together in about two and a half weeks.

00:42:47.000 We threw it together as fast as possible.

00:42:51.000 These bills that are coming out of Canada are of, like, incredible concern to me.

00:42:57.000 And me, being a Canadian, born and raised in Toronto, And watching how things have changed since I was in the, I remember being in the playground in elementary school and just saying, we have free speech, we can say whatever we want to where we are right now is just absolutely appalling.

00:43:17.000 And I thought it was, like, incredibly important to bring a lot of talent to Canada to talk

00:43:23.000 about how important and how much of a human right free speech, freedom of expression really

00:43:29.000 is.

00:43:30.000 And I want to thank the guests that have come from Brazil, I guess, Viva, now from Florida.

00:43:39.000 And then also Don and Kim from Florida as well.

00:43:41.000 So a big round of applause to the guests.

00:43:42.000 One more thing I want to add is that Don, I got a call from Kim, like, a couple days

00:44:01.000 ago, and she was like, Chris, Don's in surgery right now.

00:44:07.000 And I was like, oh, oh, what happened?

00:44:10.000 And she was like, but don't worry, we're coming to Toronto no matter what.

00:44:15.000 So a huge round of applause to Dawn.

00:44:22.000 That's some real toughness like to be coming all the way over here and going through all that just to be here and You know, raise our voices about how important freedom of expression is.

00:44:39.000 I guess we'll start off with Viva.

00:44:43.000 You know, I think you being from here and understanding kind of the genesis of what has happened in Canada and how we've gotten from a society that we all agreed unanimously that Freedom of expression is a human right that allows everything to happen.

00:45:03.000 You don't have civil rights movements.

00:45:05.000 You don't have women's rights movements. 1.00

00:45:06.000 You don't have anything without freedom of expression.

00:45:09.000 It is like the cornerstone to a democratic and free society.

00:45:14.000 Without it, It's over.

00:45:15.000 It's completely over.

00:45:17.000 And that's just getting demolished right now by the current government, which is... I never thought in my lifetime it would be something I'd be fighting for the way I'm fighting for right now.

00:45:27.000 But you as a Canadian kind of really kind of picked this apart over the last 10 years and watched this happen from a legal standpoint.

00:45:38.000 What's your thoughts?

00:45:39.000 How do you feel being a Canadian these days?

00:45:42.000 It's an interesting thing.

00:45:42.000 Canadians, we've always prided ourselves off being polite and, to some extent, subservient, but not in an insulting way.

00:45:50.000 And what I've realized is, being polite and subservient, it's good for neighbours, but it's not good for government.

00:45:55.000 And the government is supposed to... I had that thought earlier today.

00:45:59.000 I said, I've got to write that down and get it out.

00:46:02.000 We are polite.

00:46:02.000 We like being loving and we like being tolerant.

00:46:05.000 But there's a difference between that and selling the rope to the government that's going to hang you with it.

00:46:10.000 And that's what we're doing right now by sacrificing the liberties that many of us didn't have to fight and die for.

00:46:15.000 We inherited them and therefore we don't truly appreciate How special they are.

00:46:19.000 But Dom, after I say this, you thought the 2SLGBTQIA plus was bad. 1.00

00:46:24.000 There was a tweet coming out talking about asexuality.

00:46:28.000 This is from the government of Canada.

00:46:29.000 I mean, the $50,000 is going to good causes.

00:46:32.000 It says, did you know that asexuality includes a wide spectrum of sexual and romantic orientations?

00:46:38.000 And you have members of Parliament, Pascal Saint-Ange tweeting this out. 0.53

00:46:41.000 It's nuts.

00:46:42.000 But the bottom line, we're witnessing it and we sort of feel that it's virtuous to do what the government says because it makes us feel safe.

00:46:49.000 It makes us, you know, let them think that they're providing security for us.

00:46:52.000 But at the bottom line, we are literally, on the one hand, giving away freedoms that we didn't fight for and they're not ours to give away.

00:46:58.000 They're ours for our children.

00:46:59.000 and we are selling the government the rope that they're using to tie us up.

00:47:02.000 I'd like to build on something you said there, Biba.

00:47:11.000 Freedom of speech is a strategic freedom upon which the others rely.

00:47:16.000 So when we talk about our fundamental freedoms, especially here in Canada, we talk about freedom of association, freedom of assembly, the right to vote.

00:47:23.000 But think about it.

00:47:24.000 None of those things would be meaningful without the underlying free speech.

00:47:27.000 I mean, if you didn't have freedom of speech, you could have meetings, you could have association, you could have a vote, but it would all be meaningless.

00:47:36.000 I've heard it said, take away all my other freedoms, but leave me freedom of speech, because with it I'll win the rest back.

00:47:42.000 I wouldn't want to put that to the test, but I think it's true.

00:47:44.000 Glenn, I want to ask if I may, For the global perspective, I mean, you're right in the thick of it in Brazil, where there's some real censorship battles going on.

00:47:59.000 Can you give us about a minute around the world, what's the situation?

00:48:03.000 Maybe Chris can weigh in on that too, because of course, as a platform, he's under direct attack by a hundred different countries' censorship.

00:48:11.000 Can you give us just a bit of a survey?

00:48:13.000 Yeah, I mean, I actually do want to begin by embarrassing Chris a little bit and talking about it from the perspective of Rumble and how important it's become, precisely because I think I said this at the very beginning, actually, though, I'm here in Canada, I was motivated by the excesses of C63. 0.74

00:48:27.000 I'm not Canadian, so if that were just Canada, I would probably leave that to Canadians to give you a kind of support from a distance.

00:48:34.000 The reason I feel compelled to come here is because it is a global trend.

00:48:37.000 It's feeding off one another.

00:48:38.000 Every country, every time one country moves one step forward, it's a signal to every other country that they can as well.

00:48:43.000 I think one, you know, one of the things I've come to value most in the work I've done in journalism, politics, are not just people who wave banners and claim belief in a certain cause, so that is very important, but the people who are willing to sacrifice their self-interest for those cause.

00:48:59.000 I remember when I was a kid, one of the heroes I had was the ACLU, which at the time was

00:49:04.000 actually what they claimed to be, a nonpartisan free speech organization filled with Jewish

00:49:08.000 lawyers, primarily Jewish donors on the left, and they defended the right of the Nazi party

00:49:12.000 to march through Skokie, Illinois, kind of a town filled with Holocaust survivors, and

00:49:17.000 they almost destroyed their organization, but did so because they felt the principle

00:49:22.000 that the government can't dictate who can march and who can't, obviously, they despised

00:49:26.000 the Nazi party, was so vital to protect, and I've seen people like Julian Assange end up

00:49:31.000 in a prison, a high security prison, where he's wasting away, and my friend and source

00:49:36.000 Edward Snowden, who's in exile in Moscow, these are the people who I most admire, who are

00:49:40.000 knowingly sacrificing their personal interests for a cause.

00:49:43.000 Rumble The reason I came to Rumble, I've never, I've always done written journalism, I've never done video journalism.

00:49:48.000 One of the main reasons is because I think they're the only major platform.

00:49:52.000 They're, you know, I think Elon Musk at Twitter is doing an important job enunciating this cause, rhetorically defending it.

00:49:59.000 Rumble has shown that they're not just willing to defend it, Rhetorically, they're willing to protect everybody who's on that platform, left, right, anything in between or beyond.

00:50:07.000 But even more importantly, they will defy the censorship order of governments when governments tell them, we want this person off your platform in this view band, or you will not be able to be in our market.

00:50:18.000 They say, we'd rather not be in your market than obey unjust censorship commands.

00:50:22.000 and I can't stress the importance of that enough.

00:50:25.000 APPLAUSE Chris, are you at liberty to tell us a few examples or

00:50:35.000 anecdotes?

00:50:37.000 Yeah, there's a lot of them, unfortunately.

00:50:43.000 I guess the thing that kind of strikes me the most is that the amount that we're receiving means the other platforms are also receiving these requests, and they're probably receiving a lot more.

00:50:55.000 So the most recent example, which I thought was very ironic because You know, I'll go back to one of the first, well, the first place to ban us was China. 0.79

00:51:04.000 You know, no surprise there.

00:51:06.000 That's what communists would do.

00:51:07.000 They would shut down voices that they don't agree with.

00:51:11.000 But then the second place that threatened to take us offline was France.

00:51:17.000 And they specifically said that we needed to remove news sources from Russia.

00:51:24.000 So like Russia Today, Sputnik, et cetera.

00:51:27.000 They needed to come off Rumble. 0.84

00:51:29.000 And they didn't violate any of our policies, and on the principle of free speech and the principle of what we do, we told France to go pound Sam. 0.61

00:51:38.000 Bye.

00:51:39.000 And we allowed them to continue streaming, and we shut off access to France entirely.

00:51:54.000 Then, in the last month, and just recently confirmed, now we see Russia blocks Rumble entirely.

00:52:05.000 We've had China block us.

00:52:09.000 We've had France block us.

00:52:11.000 And then, ironically, Russia blocks us.

00:52:14.000 And then we ended up leaving Brazil as well.

00:52:19.000 We've had aggressive orders coming out of India.

00:52:23.000 That seems to be the next place that is getting very censorious.

00:52:28.000 And we have also received requests from the Australian government and the New Zealand government And the requests are getting very weird lately.

00:52:39.000 Like to the point where it's like not even a debate whether you should take it down or not, but I'm guessing the other platforms are complying.

00:52:47.000 So the New Zealand request was really appalling.

00:52:51.000 So there was a whistleblower in New Zealand that It was with respect to the Ministry of Health during the COVID restrictions on lying on COVID data.

00:53:02.000 And the New Zealand Ministry of Health came to us to remove that creator.

00:53:06.000 Obviously, we're not going to do that.

00:53:09.000 We're telling them to pound sand as well.

00:53:11.000 But the fact that you have like the Ministry of Health in New Zealand coming to a journalist that reported on the whistleblower to remove the journalist That's akin to the Pentagon Papers in the 70s and the New York Times, which has already been ruled in the Supreme Court.

00:53:28.000 That's free press.

00:53:29.000 That's completely allowed.

00:53:33.000 The nerve that the governments have, even the New Zealand government or the Australian government, all these governments, the nerve that they have to censor and to even ask us about that is just appalling.

00:53:49.000 I can't even imagine the day that that would happen in a Western democracy, but here we are.

00:53:56.000 We're sitting here today, and we're sitting here for really good reason, and that's because of this.

00:54:04.000 Don Jr., let me jump in.

00:54:07.000 When our Rebel News journalists went to Davos, Switzerland for the World Economic Forum, the two names we heard the most on the lips of the delegates there were, number one, Donald Trump, And number two, Elon Musk, but it was sort of a surrogate for how do we get censorship back?

00:54:26.000 And I think they were linked.

00:54:27.000 I think the whole call for banning misinformation is another way of saying it's 2024, people, we got to stop public enemy number one.

00:54:38.000 How much of censorship do you think is just about rigging or tilting the US presidential election?

00:54:45.000 I mean, I think it's very significant.

00:54:47.000 I mean, I sort of spoke about it in my speech, talking about sort of these places that we viewed as bastions of freedom and democracy, you know, perhaps under somewhat different rules, but New Zealand, Australia, Canada, the U.S., the U.K., Ireland, and yet if you look at what's going on in those places, you realize just how dangerous that are, and more importantly, how emboldened they've become In actually just flagrantly doing it.

00:55:12.000 You know, I see it on all the platforms.

00:55:14.000 I do my own social media for better or worse.

00:55:16.000 People are like, do you do that yourself?

00:55:17.000 I was like, you think I could pay someone to post the stuff that I actually put up there?

00:55:21.000 Solid point.

00:55:23.000 And, you know, I see it on my meta platforms.

00:55:26.000 I'm doing 10% of what I used to do on average.

00:55:29.000 You know, and I know what it's going to do because I do it myself.

00:55:31.000 So when I hit send, Hey, I know that's filler.

00:55:34.000 I know that's going to go big.

00:55:35.000 I know what's going to happen.

00:55:36.000 And if I get a decent post right now, it's 50,000 likes.

00:55:40.000 If I'm following certain people, it may show up to me.

00:55:42.000 But someone who isn't following that person, hey, check them out.

00:55:45.000 Search them.

00:55:48.000 Here's his exact handle.

00:55:50.000 On page 15 of the scroll, it seems like a lot of these institutions now are actually incorporating AI.

00:55:58.000 And Chris could probably speak to this more, because I know we've had conversations offline and that.

00:56:03.000 They understand now the cry from people about the censorship.

00:56:07.000 So now what they're trying to do is actually cover up the censorship, so it appears as though they're not doing it.

00:56:12.000 You can see the people you're already following, but no one else ever will.

00:56:18.000 You'll never be able to grow your engagement.

00:56:20.000 You're sort of trapped there, but you get enough viewership that it's not like, oh, What happened?

00:56:25.000 You know, I was one of the first people complaining about, you know, Twitter 1.0 censorship, and I think there's still plenty in 2.0.

00:56:32.000 But in Twitter 1.0 censorship, how do you know you're being shadow banned?

00:56:35.000 It's like, well, yesterday I was averaging 5,000 retweets a post.

00:56:39.000 Today I'm averaging seven.

00:56:41.000 They're like, well, 7,000.

00:56:42.000 I go, no, no, no.

00:56:43.000 Seven, like single digits.

00:56:46.000 Like something happened.

00:56:48.000 Right?

00:56:48.000 Someone flipped the switch.

00:56:49.000 Ironically, the time I saw my best engagement in Twitter in the last, in the last, you know, I guess since we entered politics, we did real well before that when, you know, had a TV show and we're popular and we're apolitical, at least, you know, I was political but not, you know, outwardly because I grew up in New York City and, you know, play the game.

00:57:06.000 And it was during the time frame where there was the gap Where no one knew which way Twitter was going.

00:57:12.000 You know, Elon kind of had it under contract, but it didn't look like it was going.

00:57:16.000 Twitter 1.0 was desperately trying to hold on.

00:57:18.000 They were trying to prevent.

00:57:19.000 But at the same time, because they weren't knowing, it's like they burned the files.

00:57:23.000 Right?

00:57:24.000 All the algorithms disappeared.

00:57:25.000 I gained like 3 million followers in like a, it's, you know, four week period.

00:57:29.000 You know, I was averaging 10,000 likes a post because they just pulled off all of the stops because they weren't sure.

00:57:35.000 They didn't want to get caught.

00:57:37.000 Obviously, you know, some great other journalists, you know, did, you know, whether it was Matt Taibbi and others that got into the Twitter files and just how much they'd been manipulating.

00:57:44.000 But now they're just getting smarter about that manipulation.

00:57:47.000 So I think it's very much on point.

00:57:48.000 I think a lot of those globalists that would be at Davos, I'm sure are working with big tech.

00:57:52.000 Because again, the fact I always say in America that that our elections are even close and they're won by basis points.

00:57:59.000 Not percentage points, but by basis points.

00:58:02.000 When you consider that you're up against the entirety of a trillion-dollar big tech complex that is devout leftist.

00:58:09.000 I mean, just the marketing department of the radical left plus another trillion-dollar institution which may not be worth that much anymore because I think they've done such a big disservice to themselves.

00:58:18.000 You can't avoid tech.

00:58:19.000 You use it in every part of your life.

00:58:21.000 You sort of can't avoid the mainstream media at this point because there's other alternatives.

00:58:24.000 I think, you know, Chris has done an incredible job creating that here at Rumble.

00:58:28.000 And I think that's given all of us platforms to talk about it, which is why we have followings and the other people don't have that same kind of credibility.

00:58:34.000 But you have multi-trillion dollar platforms that are functioning as the marketing department of the opposition.

00:58:40.000 It's truly amazing that it's even close, which leads me to believe that we do have a great chance if we can get people to understand that, but they're also getting smarter about just how much they're willing to manipulate things.

00:58:51.000 And the answer is they're willing to manipulate things incredibly.

00:58:55.000 Kim, can I ask you a question, because you're a former prosecutor, and I was touched by what Glenn said, that back in the day, lawyers took cases on principle, Jewish lawyers defending KKK marchers.

00:59:08.000 That's quite something.

00:59:09.000 What's happened?

00:59:10.000 Is it in the law schools?

00:59:11.000 Is it in the profession?

00:59:13.000 Is it political appointment of judges?

00:59:15.000 Why are so many prosecutors happy to prosecute free speech?

00:59:19.000 Well, you know, it's very disturbing what I see going on, you know, as a former prosecutor, like you mentioned, and as a, you know, journalist, to see just the disintegration of the legal system, to see the weaponization at the highest level of the government institutions that we used to revere.

00:59:38.000 Like when I talked about, you know, people that used to feel like they were working for the good guys for the white hats.

00:59:43.000 And I felt like that when I was a prosecutor and prosecuting cases in California and cases up through the appellate division up through the United States Supreme Court.

00:59:52.000 And then you see now the juxtaposition and this moment in American political and legal history where all of those institutions have now become weaponized and you see just the proliferation

01:00:05.000 of lawfare to the point where it is being used as, you know, the tip of the spear

01:00:11.000 to influence the United States presidential election in a way that is tantamount to

01:00:17.000 election interference.

01:00:18.000 We see it with using gag orders where people who are in the case are able to go outside,

01:00:24.000 talk, you know, make comments to the press like Michael Cohen's of the world.

01:00:29.000 But the former president of the United States of America is not allowed to make a statement, is not allowed essentially to defend himself.

01:00:39.000 And the system that is supposed to stand and fight for justice and that ability to defend yourself for due process, to uphold the Constitution, is bringing the whole house down on him.

01:00:52.000 And he is not able to.

01:00:53.000 And if he does make any statement to defend himself, then they are threatening him with, you know, fines, more Punishment, incarceration, we will throw you in jail.

01:01:06.000 And I just had to take a moment and sit back, and I've discussed this with Alan Dershowitz on my show, and I know you're going to be interviewed and meeting with him soon.

01:01:14.000 He is appalled by it.

01:01:16.000 And to further answer your question, it is coming down from those high government institutions, whether it's DOJ and FBI and CIA, IRS, down through our legal system, down through our court system, at the appellate level, at the trial level, down to the local district attorney offices, etc., and then infiltrating into our educational institutions, into the law schools, changing the way the law is, total disregard for the Constitution, and now we see an indoctrination of sorts by those educators

01:01:56.000 To the future like lawyers that are coming forward and I think it's it is a shame because it's happening in as we know in colleges across the United States universities and institutions of higher learning whether it's you know business schools and legal schools all of the above law schools are being infiltrated And I think that if I were to sit in those classrooms today, like I used to so proudly years ago, getting my law degree, I would find a very different learning environment, and I think that's a shame.

01:02:29.000 Perhaps the one thing to add to that, you know, talking about the ACLU defending the KKK.

01:02:40.000 I mean, it wasn't that long ago.

01:02:42.000 I graduated college.

01:02:43.000 I moved to New York.

01:02:45.000 And 9-11 happened, and the same white-shoe law firms often, you know, would have been in New York City, they were rushing to defend the 9-11 hijackers and the other people caught up in that terrorist thing.

01:02:56.000 But those same white-shoe law firms in New York City wouldn't dare defend the former president of the United States just 20-something years later.

01:03:05.000 So, you know, perhaps just to show the extremity of it, it's not just their unwillingness to do this, it's an unwillingness Based on political spectrum, not even speech, there's a consequence to being even a little bit conservative or a little bit right-wing.

01:03:22.000 That's when you get attacked.

01:03:23.000 So the fact that these people would rush to try to defend people who committed perhaps the most atrocious attack on American soil ever, those people have a right to defend themselves and have the highest level of defense afforded to them possibly in America.

01:03:39.000 A former sitting president, someone who was once, you know, lauded in that same town, won't even get a call back.

01:03:46.000 That's just the perspective of how far things have fallen and the dichotomy that exists.

01:03:51.000 Can I just add one point to that, which is, for me at least, the fact that, say, big law firms or the ACLU after 9-11 wanted to jump in and kind of test the government's theory, there were all these new theories about how we can imprison people, do we need to charge them with crimes, can we pick them up on American soil, I'm glad those got contested.

01:04:11.000 I think that's what journalism and law should be doing, is testing the limits of government power.

01:04:16.000 The problem for me is the second part, which is that they refuse now to apply those principles that we've all been taught were so important to apply universally in any case that might be perceived as benefiting the people Donald Trump represents, Donald Trump himself, even though there are similarly

01:04:33.000 radical theories being employed to criminalize him in that movement.

01:04:37.000 I think that's the problem is people are now unwilling to challenge power in the way they used to and the reason for

01:04:42.000 it I just think is so important too is you know, I was talking

01:04:44.000 earlier about 2016 and Brexit the election of Donald Trump, which is what traumatized

01:04:50.000 Western elites into embracing a explicit theory of censorship.

01:04:53.000 What happened there was they could have said to themselves, wait

01:04:57.000 Why did the British people decide to leave this sacred institution the European Union?

01:05:04.000 Why do people decide to embrace somebody like Donald Trump instead of Hillary Clinton, like this outsider instead of this insider?

01:05:09.000 And had they engaged in an honest self-assessment, they would have said, we, the institutional forces of authority, have gone wildly off track.

01:05:17.000 The people hate us because we're not serving their interests any longer.

01:05:21.000 And they couldn't do that.

01:05:22.000 Because that would undermine the legitimacy of their power.

01:05:25.000 So what they did instead was they invented an excuse.

01:05:27.000 Oh, there's too much free speech.

01:05:29.000 Russia is allowed to manipulate our population. 0.91

01:05:31.000 That's the only reason they're angry.

01:05:32.000 Not because we're bad, but because Russia tricked them into thinking that we're bad.

01:05:36.000 Or there's people who are lying.

01:05:37.000 They're right-wing disinformation agents.

01:05:40.000 And that's what we need to control.

01:05:41.000 And that's always how authoritarianism happens, is you invent threats.

01:05:45.000 And then you tell people you have to give up rights, give up all limits in defense of those threats, and that's why there's no more ethos like you guys were saying.

01:05:52.000 Why aren't law firms willing to stand up and say these radical theories of prosecution being used against Trump and his movement to call them insurrectionists should be contested?

01:05:59.000 It's because it's now taboo to apply those principles universally.

01:06:04.000 I think that's where things have gone so wrong.

01:06:06.000 Just to highlight one thing that might have been mentioned.

01:06:08.000 Forgotten.

01:06:09.000 Or at least not mentioned.

01:06:10.000 It's not just the weaponization of all of these bodies.

01:06:13.000 It's going after the lawyers that do it.

01:06:15.000 It's not just going after Trump.

01:06:17.000 Johnny Spin, Jeff Clark, Jenna Ellis.

01:06:19.000 Lawyers indicted for giving legal advice.

01:06:22.000 And it highlights the problem of licensure, where once it's in the power of the government, it gets weaponized and abused to go after the political disfavored.

01:06:29.000 And I would also just also highlight, replace political prejudice with racial prejudice, and what we're seeing today is exactly analogous to what we saw decades ago in the southern states that the lefties of today like to deride and defame.

01:06:42.000 And also one thing, Chris, on going after Rumble.

01:06:46.000 It's not just a question of the countries asking that Rumble take down various channels, various accounts.

01:06:52.000 I said this a while back.

01:06:53.000 I don't know if you remember it.

01:06:54.000 They're going to go through the standard of tax.

01:06:56.000 Defame, rumble, call it a right-wing whatever.

01:06:59.000 Try to go after Chris, but he's a pretty squeaky clean guy, so they haven't done the hit pieces on him yet. 0.99

01:07:03.000 But, you know, run those stupid ads with channels and then say, look what they're running ads next to these hateful channels. 0.95

01:07:09.000 They're coming after them with legislation now, and that's also what people need to truly understand. 0.99

01:07:13.000 They're going to try to legislate the competition out of business and legislate the competition into silence.

01:07:19.000 Because, you know, when they come up with the link tax, Disguised tax in my view, but for Google to pay $100 million a year, that's just the cost of doing business while catering to the government that lets you.

01:07:30.000 For smaller companies, I think Rumble could probably afford it, but they're going to criminalize the content that's on Rumble, they're going to criminalize the content that's on Twitter, and then they're going to go after the executives to say, you are hosting hateful conduct under our new legislation, and that's how they're going to shut them down.

01:07:46.000 Okay.

01:07:49.000 Good luck, Chris.

01:07:49.000 I'm sorry.

01:07:50.000 I hope I didn't give anybody any ideas.

01:07:53.000 Viva, can I ask you a question, because you and Don Jr.

01:07:56.000 have described an absolute politicization of prosecutions and judges that actually I don't think it's been so brazen in Canada.

01:08:06.000 In Canada it's more passive and quiet, but I don't think we've seen the politics of personal destruction as much in our country, which I'm puzzled by, because in the States they have the First Amendment, and I think they have more robust checks and balances.

01:08:21.000 Is it coming to Canada?

01:08:22.000 Is that what C63 is?

01:08:24.000 Or have they silenced all their critics to begin with?

01:08:27.000 I would say it's coming to Canada and it's being imported to Canada by Justin Trudeau.

01:08:31.000 Like, freezing of the bank accounts is weaponizing the system.

01:08:34.000 Right.

01:08:35.000 Pre-trial detention of Tamara Leach for weeks.

01:08:38.000 Chris Barber, Pat King.

01:08:39.000 You may not like these, you may not think you like these people, but we've seen the weaponization of the system. 0.98

01:08:44.000 Denying bail for non-violent mischief charges is absolute horse crap. 0.89

01:08:48.000 So we're seeing it here. 0.99

01:08:49.000 In the States, It's out of control.

01:08:51.000 I mean, the Constitution is all fine and well, but to quote a judge, her name is Judge Darkey, in this case out of New York, Dexter Taylor.

01:09:00.000 He's a man who just got convicted.

01:09:01.000 He hauled off to Rikers Island for assembling firearms in his apartment with lawfully procured kits.

01:09:06.000 The judge in that court allegedly, according to reporting, said, don't bring the Second Amendment into this court.

01:09:11.000 This is the state of New York.

01:09:12.000 The Second Amendment doesn't exist here.

01:09:14.000 You have, and this has been reported, and you have like states defying Supreme Court rulings.

01:09:19.000 So what you have is total political lawlessness just based on political leaning.

01:09:24.000 You know, I guess the heart of your answer is we have it worse.

01:09:27.000 It's just that they're going after the Tamara Leaches of the world and the Arthur Pavlovskys of the world rather than the Donald Trumps of the world. 0.81

01:09:34.000 Arthur Pavlovsky, Pastor Coates, there's a number of pastors locked up And deny bail.

01:09:41.000 Meanwhile, the dude who drives a truck into people at the Winnipeg protest led on a bail.

01:09:45.000 It was a big bail, but it's weaponizing and applying different rules to different people depending on ideologies. 0.99

01:09:51.000 We're seeing it in Canada.

01:09:52.000 We're just more complacent and more polite, and we don't want to fight.

01:09:56.000 But there are, you know, I think there's a lot of us who are fighting, but there's definitely a different sort of culture that probably should change sooner than later.

01:10:03.000 Hey, Chris.

01:10:04.000 Oh, go ahead.

01:10:04.000 Yeah.

01:10:05.000 I think the other distinction here is that You know, the political power in Canada is all for this censorship.

01:10:13.000 It's all for this.

01:10:14.000 It's the grassroots movements in Canada that are all for freedom, whereas it's a little different in the United States.

01:10:20.000 You have people in power that are fighting for freedom and fighting for rights, whereas you don't have that really in Canada quite yet.

01:10:28.000 Not yet anyways, but I hope that changes in due time.

01:10:32.000 One of the things That, you know, that we just experienced, which is, it talks a lot about the media here in Canada, and it's, we had hit piece after hit piece after hit piece, the Globe and Mail, and it goes on, CTV, you name it, when it came to rumble and blocking France.

01:10:54.000 For allowing Russian outlets on Rumble based on free expression and not violating our terms.

01:11:01.000 But not a single paper in Canada.

01:11:04.000 You know, we're a $2 billion market cap company.

01:11:07.000 We're not small.

01:11:08.000 We have the biggest influencers in the world on our platform, including his dad, and Don, and many others.

01:11:15.000 Kim, Glenn, Viva.

01:11:23.000 And not a single paper, both in the US and Canada, covered the fact that Russia blocked

01:11:30.000 Rumble.

01:11:32.000 What does that say?

01:11:34.000 The bias is written by not writing.

01:11:37.000 And you can all see it, because when we protected things we may or may not agree with, They come after us, but when they shut us off, they don't want to let you know that they shut us off.

01:11:50.000 In fact, YouTube's still running in Russia perfectly fine, which means, obviously, that they're taking some kind of orders and complying.

01:12:01.000 So these are the questions that need to be asked, and it's... Hey, Chris, from one accused Russia agent to another...

01:12:09.000 You're doing a really lousy job as an agent of Russia, just so we're clear. 0.87

01:12:13.000 Why don't you shut yourself down? 0.87

01:12:17.000 Chris, one of the important things about today has been to ring the alarm.

01:12:22.000 And I think we need to.

01:12:24.000 Before people can take steps to fix things, they need to know there's a problem and what the problem is.

01:12:29.000 But people can be demoralized or depressed a little bit.

01:12:33.000 This is what you do full-time.

01:12:35.000 You are the leading free speech platform in the world and you're big.

01:12:38.000 Two billion dollars market cap.

01:12:41.000 So you brush up against other big people, some enemies, but Some allies too, I hope.

01:12:48.000 Can you give us a few green shoots of hope?

01:12:51.000 Are there other people in this battle?

01:12:53.000 Are there other governments?

01:12:55.000 Are there other forces that maybe we should be excited about or hopeful for?

01:13:00.000 So I guess the first thing is that Rumble does have a $2 billion market cap.

01:13:06.000 And that is a huge honor and a huge success, because we're pushing the envelope.

01:13:13.000 We're the tip of the spear for freedom of expression.

01:13:15.000 And that shows that there's a lot of people that really believe in what we're doing.

01:13:18.000 And that's the biggest honor of all.

01:13:21.000 And I will say that I think things are starting to tilt our way, and they're starting to tilt our way a lot quicker.

01:13:35.000 We have the biggest influencers in the world are on our side, whether they're not saying it, or whether they're saying it, and we have lots that are saying it as well.

01:13:46.000 But there's a lot of influencers that are definitely on our side that haven't really kind of spoken out yet.

01:13:50.000 And I think that The scales have really tipped a big time in the United States, and I think in Canada it's not quite there yet.

01:13:59.000 People are still afraid.

01:14:00.000 They're still afraid to voice things.

01:14:02.000 Canadians just approach things a little bit different than they do in America.

01:14:05.000 In America, it's just like...

01:14:07.000 They say whatever they want, whereas in Canada we're kind of tight-lipped.

01:14:11.000 You get bank accounts shut down if you're out dancing with hockey sticks in the middle of the winter.

01:14:16.000 It's a different environment over here.

01:14:18.000 But I will say that Rumble is an example of that success.

01:14:25.000 The influencers and the shows on Rumble are demonstrating that success.

01:14:33.000 I do think in the United States, we're seeing like a major movement towards freedom and free expression in the defense of that.

01:14:41.000 When I first started, I remember half of America was like, I remember reporters saying like, free speech on TV is like another word for hate speech.

01:14:52.000 And I was like, freedom is the It was Freedom is the Rally Call of the Far Right, was a CBC article, I believe, that they ran.

01:15:00.000 No, this was CBS, the one I was thinking about.

01:15:02.000 They're making freedom of expression to hate speech.

01:15:05.000 And I was like, what?

01:15:07.000 How did we get the women's rights movements, the civil rights movements? 0.92

01:15:11.000 That's because of free speech.

01:15:13.000 Free speech is the cornerstone of democracy.

01:15:15.000 And I think in the last two years, since I think it was CBS that did that live on air, I think like the majority now are like, I think I saw a poll, it was like 69% of Americans now think that, you know, not only do they believe in free speech, but they believe they're being infringed too much.

01:15:36.000 So like, the scales have tipped.

01:15:40.000 You have to think like a lot of different things.

01:15:42.000 Rumble, X, people, the public square, the whole parallel economy that's now kind of like exploding right now, right underneath us, and it's kind of really coming out of the United States.

01:15:52.000 The U.S.

01:15:53.000 is like the place to fight right now, and I think it's winning big, and I'm really hopeful that it's going to kind of leak into Canada, and I think it is.

01:16:02.000 This is why we're here, and people know how important it is.

01:16:06.000 Look at this room.

01:16:06.000 It's full.

01:16:07.000 It's sold out, and it's...

01:16:13.000 I think Canadians are ready, right?

01:16:15.000 Yeah!

01:16:17.000 Yeah!

01:16:19.000 Well, Don, there's a quirk in Canada that sometimes Canadian politicians and Canadian journalists

01:16:27.000 don't care as much about the Canadian reaction as American reaction and foreign reaction.

01:16:32.000 I saw the Toronto Star sort of shocked and excited at the same time that you were coming here.

01:16:38.000 Yeah, me too.

01:16:41.000 And so I want to say thanks to everyone here for helping raise the alarm around the world because Trudeau cares a lot about his international reputation, maybe even more than he cares what Canadians think of him.

01:16:53.000 Could I ask you a question?

01:16:55.000 If there's a 2024 victory for your father, can you think of changes?

01:17:01.000 A lot of fans here.

01:17:10.000 A lot of fans.

01:17:13.000 It could be worse.

01:17:13.000 Keep going.

01:17:14.000 Go! 0.95

01:17:33.000 Go Is there something that you think should be changed that's within the power of the government?

01:17:41.000 Is there some policy or some budget or some office that's an easy change to strengthen free speech?

01:17:49.000 Well, I think you have to just eliminate so much of it.

01:17:51.000 I mean, I think the bureaucracies have gotten so big.

01:17:53.000 There's no accountability.

01:17:54.000 There's no consequence.

01:17:55.000 You get in a position of power.

01:17:57.000 And even for those, I see it.

01:18:00.000 They enter politics, oftentimes perhaps for the right reason.

01:18:04.000 But there's sort of this saying, the swamp is undefeated.

01:18:08.000 You know, you get there.

01:18:09.000 And I ask guys this.

01:18:10.000 I go, you know, why doesn't that guy fight harder?

01:18:12.000 It felt like he went in.

01:18:13.000 Well, you know, he was a state legislator, didn't get paid for 15 years.

01:18:17.000 And, you know, he shared a last name with someone who was a congressman for 25 years.

01:18:20.000 The guy dies.

01:18:21.000 He basically walked into his seat because, you know, it's like the Distinguished Gentleman, the Eddie Murphy movie.

01:18:25.000 It's the name you know.

01:18:26.000 So this guy becomes a congressman from nothing. 1.00

01:18:29.000 And all of a sudden, there's people kissing his ass. 0.99

01:18:32.000 And he's invited to the cool person party. 0.99

01:18:33.000 And he's got to see that.

01:18:34.000 And guess what?

01:18:35.000 He's never leaving.

01:18:37.000 And so, you know, for me, the big thing is just eliminating as much of that government as possible, breaking down those institutions, making sure you don't have that permanent bureaucracy, right?

01:18:49.000 It's sort of like the Anthony Fauci's of the world.

01:18:52.000 I think you can look at his record and realize that at no time was he ever the best doctor in anything.

01:18:59.000 But he was the best bureaucrat.

01:19:01.000 He was the best snake.

01:19:02.000 He never met a camera he didn't love.

01:19:04.000 If you stood in his way, even if you were right, he'd burn you to the ground and perpetuate that.

01:19:09.000 And so, I think you have to get rid of that entrenched bureaucracy as best as possible.

01:19:13.000 I think we're much more in tune to be able to do that in a second term.

01:19:17.000 Because the first time we came in, not knowing.

01:19:18.000 Like, why didn't you do this?

01:19:19.000 I was like, well, we assumed.

01:19:20.000 By the way, I assumed it.

01:19:22.000 When they went after me, I assumed, well, you know, the FBI, I mean, the CIA, they said I did something wrong.

01:19:27.000 Like, I know I didn't do anything intentionally, but maybe I met with someone that was an agent.

01:19:31.000 There must be... I wanted to believe that everything I was told about America and the patriots that work in public service, it's bullshit. 0.99

01:19:40.000 The entire foundation we've been sold for our entire lives is a lie. 0.68

01:19:45.000 And so I think we have to break down that bureaucracy, put people in there who don't need the job, who it's not their turn, it's not the next line of progression to perpetuate the same bureaucracy that caused all these troubles.

01:19:56.000 And then I think you end up doing it to what Chris is saying, in the public sector.

01:20:00.000 Where, you know, corporate America has become so entrenched with that because they do control Washington, D.C.

01:20:05.000 with the money.

01:20:06.000 Whether it's what we see with the military-industrial complex and the never-ending wars, whether it's what you see with big tech and, you know, basically owning Congress.

01:20:15.000 Not just the Democrats, but the Republicans who, you know, in front of a small group of three people in their home state, they'll tell you what you want to hear, but they'll still vote to give Meta unlimited power, or Google unlimited power, or whatever it may be.

01:20:27.000 And so simultaneously, to Chris's point, that emergence of the parallel economy, where people can take the time to not just feed Amazon and their lobbyists, Google and their lobbyists, find the small businesses, give them your money, take the time.

01:20:43.000 There's an entire network emerging of people who have had enough that they understand what's going on, and they're voting with their wallets as well.

01:20:50.000 And when you take away the financial side of the beast, that's a huge impact.

01:20:57.000 Not just politically, but across the entire spectrum, and that's happening.

01:21:00.000 That's why, you know, Public Square sponsoring an event like this, having the guts to go out there and do that, where they're finding people who are of like mind, who understand what's going on, and by sucking the funds out of the system, you naturally weaken that system also.

01:21:15.000 So it's so critical that we just stop It's so easy just to hit the button on Amazon.

01:21:19.000 And then, you know, then Jeff Bezos takes his $10 billion to every lobbyist that they own in Washington, D.C., and they get what they want each and every time, whether it's good for the American people or a total abject disaster.

01:21:31.000 And it's always the latter.

01:21:33.000 It's always the latter.

01:21:34.000 So, you know, we have to play both of those games.

01:21:37.000 I just want to say we've got five minutes left before the Trumps have to get to the airport and we've been very lucky to have them for so many hours today and the whole panel, would you agree with me?

01:21:51.000 So, I propose to use the last five minutes just for quick snappers and ending with Chris Pavlovsky, our great supporter, benefactor, and the brains behind Rumble.

01:22:05.000 So, unless, Chris, you have another plan, I propose we conclude the panel with quick statements.

01:22:10.000 It's been wonderful to hear so many voices.

01:22:12.000 What a great spectrum of opinions.

01:22:14.000 Let's start with my friend, David Veva Fry.

01:22:18.000 I almost disavowed David.

01:22:18.000 I'll make sure this on, that more people are waking up in the States, sort of.

01:22:22.000 And I think it's what happens when they overplay their hand and they come for you.

01:22:25.000 The old poem is, you don't do anything until they come for you.

01:22:28.000 In the States, they came for a great many people.

01:22:30.000 They've done it here now as well.

01:22:32.000 And I think one of the, by the way, earlier on when I looked at the camera in my dramatic

01:22:35.000 moment, and I said, I think I said Trump instead of Trudeau.

01:22:38.000 Because of all the things people call Trump, blackface is not one of them.

01:22:43.000 So that was intended.

01:22:44.000 I almost disavowed David.

01:22:45.000 I was like, listen.

01:22:47.000 We've been friends for a while, but now you're out.

01:22:50.000 Thanks.

01:22:51.000 They always end up by overplaying their hands, and I think Trudeau might have overplayed his hand here when, for example, kicking Pauletta out of Parliament for the day.

01:22:59.000 That's overplaying your hand to the point where now everybody sees it.

01:23:02.000 Thanks, David.

01:23:03.000 Glenn, what a pleasure to meet you in person.

01:23:06.000 I can't believe how far you've traveled.

01:23:08.000 You've given so much to us today.

01:23:10.000 Give us a final thought.

01:23:15.000 So, I'll just tell one quick anecdote.

01:23:18.000 I've been with Rumble at Rumble now, I think, for two years, a little bit more than that, and I noticed when I went there, and then other people started going there, and it started growing in the public consciousness, you saw this, like, intense media attack immediately emerge.

01:23:30.000 They used all the standard insults that they use any time they want to destroy anyone's reputation.

01:23:35.000 You know, it's like a Kremlin outlet, and that's why they can't grapple with the fact

01:23:38.000 that Russia just banned Rumble, because it's kind of odd for them simultaneously

01:23:42.000 to be a pro-Kremlin disinformation outlet and simultaneously be banned in Russia.

01:23:46.000 That's why they can't mention it, because they've been calling them a Kremlin agent

01:23:49.000 for so long.

01:23:50.000 But also, calling Chris, you know, the founder and the CEO of Rumble, 0.84

01:23:54.000 this like fascist and far-right extremist.

01:23:57.000 I remember like hearing this at the time when it became this media script.

01:24:02.000 And I was like, what?

01:24:03.000 Chris?

01:24:03.000 You guys have heard of him?

01:24:05.000 He's Canadian.

01:24:06.000 Very Canadian.

01:24:08.000 And I have never once heard Chris, in my life, express any idea that could accurately be described as far-right or fascist.

01:24:17.000 But Chris is a believer in free speech.

01:24:20.000 He's devoted himself to free speech.

01:24:22.000 And all my life, that was an idea that was just basic liberalism.

01:24:25.000 Like, liberalism not in a partisan sense, but just being a Western liberal.

01:24:28.000 It has now become, as you guys mentioned earlier, free speech has become coded as a fascist idea.

01:24:35.000 It's like, what?

01:24:36.000 Every fascist government in the world has never offered free speech.

01:24:40.000 They've always imposed censorship.

01:24:41.000 It's like a hallmark of fascism, not to defend free speech, but to impose censorship.

01:24:48.000 I think what it shows is how desperate the media is to crush any outlet or any platform that allows other voices to be heard.

01:24:57.000 They're so desperate to win back their monopoly on information.

01:25:00.000 And the reason isn't only because they don't want dissenting voices to be heard.

01:25:04.000 It's because they want only their voices to dominate like they used to.

01:25:08.000 And I think the best thing to take away from this is although you can complain about that, and we should, there is so much reason for optimism.

01:25:14.000 The emergence of this independent media, no one cares anymore what those outlets say.

01:25:18.000 You know, every time I read myself being called a fascist or whatever, I don't even care anymore because I know people have tuned them out.

01:25:25.000 The emergence of independent media and the commitment to free speech ensures that we can always gather like this and there's always we can gather like this and on the internet, there's always so much hope to take them down.

01:25:34.000 History shows that.

01:25:36.000 Thank you.

01:25:40.000 Well, I'm fairly confident that both Glenn and I never thought that we'd be on stage with such alt-right extremists like Glenn Greenwald.

01:25:50.000 But I think to your point, you're right.

01:25:52.000 And Viva, you said it as well.

01:25:54.000 That pendulum has overcorrected so much.

01:25:56.000 They've gotten so comfortable with the media and with tech running cover.

01:26:01.000 That they really sort of opened the kimono to, you know, their true intentions and just how radical and far they are.

01:26:07.000 And honestly, I don't think it aligns with the vast majority of people in the U.S.

01:26:11.000 or Canada.

01:26:13.000 You know, I think there's a great number of independents.

01:26:16.000 There's those on the radical side, the extreme side of both spectrums, frankly.

01:26:20.000 But I think people now understand just what's at stake.

01:26:24.000 And so I think, you know, my closing message would be for everyone to just Get involved because you have no choice.

01:26:31.000 You can no longer sit aside.

01:26:33.000 You can still be polite.

01:26:35.000 I don't always recommend it because I think, you know, our governments and those in the media have taken our politeness.

01:26:42.000 And taking advantage of that, and they've weaponized it against us, so I think we gotta be a little more assertive than that in our language.

01:26:50.000 But we do have to get involved.

01:26:51.000 We have to talk to our neighbors.

01:26:53.000 We have to explain to them the things that they will not see otherwise.

01:26:57.000 You know, you'll see it on Rumble, but you're not gonna see it by turning on the CBC.

01:27:00.000 So we have to understand that.

01:27:02.000 We have to make sure that people get what is at stake, just the extreme nature of it.

01:27:06.000 And I think if we do that, we actually win, resoundingly.

01:27:09.000 But we all have to do it.

01:27:10.000 It's not going to happen because one guy, like a Donald Trump, is out there saying it.

01:27:14.000 They've shown that they will cancel, arrest, jail the most powerful people in the world.

01:27:20.000 We need to do that as a collective.

01:27:22.000 and when we do that and we band together, they will not silence us all.

01:27:26.000 Thank you.

01:27:32.000 So I want to say to the beautiful people of Canada who are incredibly well-mannered and well-behaved,

01:27:40.000 We owe you a debt of gratitude for producing this Canadian that helped to make free speech great again.

01:27:48.000 And if I can ask you, thank you Chris, With any take away, you can be both courteous and courageous.

01:27:55.000 That's my message to Canada because you want to fight for your children and for future generations.

01:28:00.000 Do not wait for your voices to be heard before it is too late and you don't recognize your country.

01:28:07.000 Think about what you can do today to exercise your free speech, your voice, to actually express your values with where you shop, with who you listen to, for the platforms that you support.

01:28:21.000 It is worth it and quite frankly it's too great of a country to let it go down to decline the way that some of the Marxists that are here want to do it.

01:28:31.000 So stand up for what you believe in and it's simplistic but not sophomoric because if you do this then you will do what?

01:28:40.000 Make Canada great again!

01:28:47.000 Well, we're almost done.

01:28:49.000 An amazing day.

01:28:50.000 And I can't even believe that you came here after your surgery.

01:28:54.000 I mean, you came in on crutches.

01:28:56.000 Not a snowflake.

01:28:57.000 No snowflake here.

01:28:58.000 We just do it.

01:28:59.000 If I say I'm going to be somewhere, we're going to be there.

01:29:01.000 Thank you for that.

01:29:03.000 But the man who made this all possible, not only the platform, but the financial means to have this event, despite the attempt to cancel it by the government that owns the land under this building, Well, thank you, Ezra.

01:29:15.000 King. Chris, I want to thank you on behalf of not only everyone in the room, but everyone

01:29:19.000 watching at home and everyone who has used Rumble to access the truth. Thank you for

01:29:24.000 allowing Rebel News to succeed and thrive. It's a personal debt I have to you. Why don't

01:29:29.000 you wrap up the conference today with some thoughts? Give us a little hope.

01:29:32.000 Yeah. Well, thank you, Ezra. So first, I want to thank the sponsors, Public Square and 1775

01:29:39.000 Coffee for helping us out on this event. I'm going to thank again, because like I said,

01:29:49.000 this was put together in two and a half, three weeks by our event staff team and the marketing

01:29:54.000 team and everyone else, the creator teams, everybody that's here.

01:29:57.000 So thanks to the Rumble staff and the Rebel News staff for putting together.

01:30:01.000 And the biggest thanks goes to all the speakers coming from all over the world, literally,

01:30:12.000 for being at this event and voicing their speech here in Canada.

01:30:16.000 So thank you guys for coming.

01:30:18.000 And just to end off, I'll keep it really short.

01:30:26.000 I've been fighting for freedom of expression, our human right.

01:30:32.000 I'm not sure if everybody knows, but It's Article 19 in the UN Universal Declaration of Human Rights.

01:30:39.000 It is actually a human right, freedom of expression.

01:30:43.000 And I've been fighting for this since, in a real aggressive way, since about 2020.

01:30:48.000 I didn't really think it was going to take the turn that it did.

01:30:52.000 But I've been fighting for this really hard.

01:30:54.000 I've been doing a lot of fighting in the United States for this, making sure it goes well all around the world, pushing back against governments.

01:31:02.000 And as a Canadian, born and raised in Canada, I will tell you, I will fight tooth and nail against Bill C-63 and any

01:31:10.000 government —

01:31:12.000 — any government, regardless of their political affiliation,

01:31:21.000 that tries to infringe on that basic human right.

01:31:23.000 So I'm not going to stop.

01:31:25.000 I will not quit.

01:31:26.000 And I will do everything I can to make sure this doesn't happen.

01:31:29.000 And you can count on me to really give it a real effort.

01:31:32.000 Thank you for coming out.

01:31:35.000 Ladies and gentlemen, that marks the end of Rumble Live in Toronto.

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