Triggered - Donald Trump Jr - Stephen Miller is Flipping the Script on the Left's Lawfare: Here's How We Win | TRIGGERED Ep.87

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00:06:03.000 Today we're going to be joined by Trump administration border czar Stephen Miller.

00:06:09.000 Stephen was a senior advisor and speechwriter in the Trump administration and in the Trump White House, and is one of the best advocates for America First policies that exist.

00:06:21.000 He's currently the founder and president of America First Legal, where he fights against the Biden administration daily.

00:06:28.000 You know the lawfare that the left does so effectively against us, try to tie you up in court, try to make us

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00:06:34.000 Well, they have hundreds of people doing that.

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00:10:14.000 Now, joining me, America First legal founder, Stephen Miller.

00:10:20.000 Okay, guys, we have our friend, just great American patriot, Stephen Miller back.

00:10:26.000 Stephen is someone the left absolutely despises, which I wear as a badge of honor.

00:10:32.000 So when they're trying to cancel you, when they're trying...

00:10:33.000 But no, Stephen, you're one of the few guys taking the lawfare.

00:10:40.000 Back to the Democrats, right?

00:10:42.000 We see what they're trying to do.

00:10:43.000 I mean, just take Trump as an example, but this is one of many things, right?

00:10:47.000 They have teams of lawyers that dedicate time, resources, millions of dollars just preventing You're one of the few guys that's actually taken that system and fought back against the Democrats.

00:11:04.000 Tell us a little bit about what you're doing, why it's so important, how others can get involved in it, because it really is a component.

00:11:11.000 You see, when I say the lawfare, that's the Attorney General trying to sue Trump to oblivion to prevent him from exercising anything.

00:11:18.000 Let's try to break these people.

00:11:20.000 You know, I'd love not to have that exist in America.

00:11:23.000 I'd love for those games to not be played.

00:11:26.000 But so long as the other side is playing those games, I think we need to be playing the same game.

00:11:32.000 I always say, you know, we play t-ball, they play hardball, and we wonder what happens why, you know, as we watch just our freedom, our country eroding from underneath us, we wonder why.

00:11:42.000 And it's because we're just...

00:11:43.000 We're playing entirely different games.

00:11:45.000 We're like little babes in the woods while they massacre the Constitution.

00:11:49.000 Tell us a little bit about it and how people can check it out and learn more.

00:11:54.000 Thank you. Well, you're exactly right.

00:11:56.000 Look, it's the law of nature.

00:11:59.000 In the real world.

00:12:00.000 You know, classroom theory is fine and good.

00:12:04.000 And conservatives for a long time have been obsessed with just the classroom theory of it, right?

00:12:10.000 Which is that you should be extremely restrained in your approach to law.

00:12:15.000 You should avoid filing a lot of lawsuits.

00:12:18.000 You should try not to spend too much time in court.

00:12:22.000 You should be very gentle and you should be very averse to conflict at all times.

00:12:29.000 Now, everybody played by these same rules, again, in theory, well, that would work just fine and we'd all be very happy.

00:12:35.000 But when you have one team, one side, That is going to, as you said, try to sue you into oblivion.

00:12:42.000 That's going to try to persecute you, hound you, harass you endlessly, night and day, week after week, month after month, year after year.

00:12:50.000 If you don't Return fire legally in kind.

00:12:54.000 You're just going to get pulverized.

00:12:55.000 You're going to get crushed. And so we needed every level of the conservative legal movement to fight fire with fire.

00:13:02.000 And so my piece of this is that I run America First Legal, which basically you can think of as a law firm Nonprofit dedicated to fighting for all the things that you and your viewers care about.

00:13:16.000 So we sue Biden on open borders.

00:13:18.000 We sue schools for pushing gender theory down our children's throats.

00:13:22.000 We sue HHS for vaccine mandates or for Violating the conscience rights of medical professionals.

00:13:31.000 We sue the Biden administration for race-based provision of government benefits.

00:13:37.000 We sue private actors for being involved in illegal censorship of free speech online, and on and on and on down the list.

00:13:46.000 Everything bad that's happening out there in the world, we're out there suing the people that are responsible for those policies, trying to shut them down, expose them, Get discovery that can reveal all of these dark secrets and then hopefully obtain favorable rulings as we have in many cases at the end of the day to actually prohibit this unlawful conduct.

00:14:07.000 Yeah, I mean, it's so important.

00:14:08.000 Honestly, I get this a lot, and it's sort of surprising.

00:14:11.000 I'll go speak to a large group of conservatives somewhere around the country, and they're like, no, but Don, the Constitution says...

00:14:18.000 And it's like, that's it. The Constitution says X, Y, Z. So, of course, it's fine. 0.62

00:14:23.000 Just leave it alone. There's no reason to fight back.

00:14:26.000 You don't have to get that aggressive.

00:14:28.000 Turn the other cheek.

00:14:29.000 And I understand sort of the biblical roots of that, but it's like, no, man...

00:14:33.000 They love that we've done that for 50 years.

00:14:36.000 They've taken over every major institution because of that laissez-faire attitude.

00:14:43.000 They could care less what the Constitution says.

00:14:48.000 So much of what I try to do is just wake people up to the notion that just because it says it doesn't mean they won't try to Get rid of that.

00:14:54.000 Just because it says it doesn't mean anything.

00:14:57.000 They don't care what it says.

00:14:59.000 They could not care less.

00:15:02.000 And that couldn't be more evident based on the immigration policies we see on a daily basis, based on the mandates, based on the censorship that we see from government trying to work with big tech to suppress one side of a conversation but not the other.

00:15:16.000 How do you get people to understand that?

00:15:19.000 Because again, I've been watching it now.

00:15:21.000 Listen, you've been on the front lines of this since you got in the Trump administration.

00:15:24.000 I mean, we've been doing this since 15 together.

00:15:27.000 But if people still don't quite get it, what would be some of the examples that you could use to drive home?

00:15:34.000 Because it is shocking to me that I still see people that are like, no, Don, but the Constitution says, oh, that's great.

00:15:41.000 I agree with you, but you're right.

00:15:43.000 If we were playing the same game, we're not playing the same game.

00:15:47.000 Right. In fact, they use that against us.

00:15:50.000 That is actually, the left understands our greatest weakness to be our refusal to get into these kinds of tit-for-tat legal, political, and other fights.

00:16:06.000 In other words, they think that our The obsession with being the go-along-and-get-along conservative unwilling to, fill in the blank, impeach or subpoena or arrest or sue or do anything else like that will be our downfall.

00:16:27.000 That's what they're betting on. They're betting on the fact that they will appoint attorneys general Who will systematically dismantle conservatives and then we'll appoint attorneys general who will just endlessly lecture us on why they can't do anything.

00:16:39.000 That's what they're betting on.

00:16:40.000 That's what their assumption is.

00:16:42.000 And so, I mean, just to think of a really recent example.

00:16:46.000 So, the Secretary of Homeland Security Alejandro Mayorkas is guilty of, by any definition, human trafficking, human smuggling, child endangerment, violation of dozens of different federal laws and statutes.

00:17:00.000 And so Marjorie Taylor Greene forced a vote on impeachment. 1.00

00:17:03.000 And eight Republicans voted no, which was enough to kill the impeachment.

00:17:08.000 And they all had different reasons and explanations.

00:17:10.000 But most of them were basically some version of Well, in my opinion, the Founding Fathers really didn't think that impeachment should apply in this case or that case or anything else.

00:17:20.000 Again, these sort of ridiculous classroom theory philosophizing rather than living in the real world and saying, this man is destroying the country.

00:17:31.000 The only remedy available to you is impeachment. 0.71

00:17:35.000 DOJ is not going to arrest him, right?

00:17:38.000 Joe Biden is here at least through 2024, right?

00:17:43.000 The only remedy is impeachment.

00:17:44.000 And you're sitting there trying to rationalize, well, I think if I interpret Federalist Paper 67 this way, I think that it really doesn't apply to this exact circumstance because he is the leader of the invasion into this country.

00:17:59.000 And you're not even willing to send articles of impeachment.

00:18:03.000 Over to the Senate to have a trial.

00:18:06.000 That is the conservative mindset that has brought us to the shameful point that we're in right now where we've lost corporations, we've lost the law schools, we've lost the legal credentialing bodies like the Bar Association, we've lost almost every single important institution in this country because of our laissez-faire attitude against a political opponent that is absolutely ruthless.

00:18:32.000 No, that's a great example, because I saw that.

00:18:34.000 Even, like, Daryl Issa was one of the people who voted against the impeachment.

00:18:39.000 But there's a tweet from him, like, a couple weeks ago that was like, I look forward to hearing him at the impeachment hearing, but then he votes against it.

00:18:46.000 We do this every time, and it's not just members of Congress.

00:18:49.000 Like, do you think for a second that if this was reversed...

00:18:53.000 Right? If you had you as our borders are, shutting down immigration, not allowing this insanity... 1.00

00:18:59.000 Do you think that when the Democrats controlled the House by a slim margin, you think one person would turn?

00:19:05.000 You think one person would say, well, there's maybe an example where this wasn't exactly intended.

00:19:10.000 It sort of happened... I mean, the same thing at the Supreme Court, really, right?

00:19:13.000 When big decisions go up to the Supreme Court, if they were going to inure towards the conservatives, the conservative justices, almost without fail...

00:19:22.000 We'll figure out a way to be like, no, it's actually, maybe the law applies this way, Dems get a win. 0.98

00:19:27.000 If it's the other way, each and every time, boom, this is our interpretation of the law of the Constitution, gone.

00:19:33.000 We're playing two different games, and we have been for so long.

00:19:38.000 That was the best example in recent time, because it's like, There is not a single justification for what's going on at our border.

00:19:47.000 We want to spend $150 billion over to Ukraine.

00:19:49.000 We're sending $14.6 billion to Israel.

00:19:52.000 We're doing this. We couldn't finish the border wall for a couple billion bucks, like three billion bucks.

00:19:55.000 We couldn't finish it. Republicans were the ones that slow-rolled that to begin with because Paul Ryan and the likes wanted to be invited to the cool person Christmas party.

00:20:04.000 I mean, you remember all of that. That wasn't actually the Democrats.

00:20:06.000 That was the Republicans because we had the ability to get it done, but they refused because they would rather be accepted into polite Democrat society in Washington, D.C. than actually do what their constituency wants.

00:20:18.000 And, you know, candidly, we fought wars, big ones, in this country about...

00:20:25.000 Having our representatives actually represent us, and it doesn't feel like the Republicans in many cases are doing that anymore.

00:20:33.000 Well, I think that you just have different incentive structures at the end of the day, and you have different reasons for going into politics.

00:20:43.000 So a lot of our conservative...

00:20:51.000 policymakers and legislators and so forth, they are very focused on just being able to live what they see as a good life, right?

00:20:59.000 Get invited to the right events, be able to be on the right boards, be able to have a good job lined up when you retire.

00:21:05.000 They're not interested in what the left would call fundamental transformation.

00:21:09.000 Whereas left-wing officials are extremely focused on trying to change the country in every way possible.

00:21:17.000 That's what they're focused on, morning, evening, afternoon, and night.

00:21:21.000 And so when those two opposing forces meet, our side is gonna lose every single time

00:21:27.000 because we're not relentlessly focused on delivering a fundamental restoration

00:21:33.000 to counter their fundamental transformation.

00:21:37.000 And so, a guy like Paul Ryan He not only isn't even interested in doing that, there's also a second problem, which is that there's a strong strain of thinking inside of the conservative movement, and fortunately Donald Trump has largely vanquished this, but it's still there, that actually naively believes if we just open our arms We're good to go.

00:22:22.000 There's that strain of thinking that is at best dangerously naive.

00:22:26.000 So bottom line, conservatives have to get tough and they have to get smart real fast.

00:22:32.000 Because if we continue to lie prone and submit and be soft and be weak, again to the point where we can't even impeach Alejandro Mayorkas?

00:22:46.000 The most impeachable person that's ever occupied a capitol position ever?

00:22:50.000 If we can't even do that, we have significant problems ahead of us.

00:22:55.000 I really fear. Let's talk immigration a little bit. 1.00

00:22:58.000 Obviously, this is the one that put you on the radar.

00:23:03.000 You're a big architect of sort of the Trump administration policies on that.

00:23:07.000 Obviously, a lot going on at the border.

00:23:09.000 We'll get to that in a second. But, you know, I'm watching what's going on right now in the, you know, Israeli conflict.

00:23:16.000 And I'm watching Israeli scholars write opinion pieces in the Wall Street Journal saying, No, no, no.

00:23:21.000 The U.S. should just open its arms and just take the Palestinian refugees. 1.00

00:23:25.000 I mean, it's almost like, wait a minute.

00:23:26.000 So the problem that you don't want to deal with and would love to get rid of, the problem that literally all of their Arab neighbors who, you know, in the case of Jordan is like, you know, vast majority Palestinian background population, zero people want to be accepted. 1.00

00:23:42.000 Those countries want to take exactly zero of the refugees from there.

00:23:47.000 Now, Israeli scholars are writing opinion pieces and articles in the Wall Street Journal being like, no, America should just take them. 0.85

00:23:53.000 I think it'll be wonderful. This diversity is our strength.

00:23:57.000 What the hell is going on here that we're doing this with a straight face?

00:24:01.000 You know, you see the article, you're like, why on earth would we do that?

00:24:04.000 And then you're like, oh, oh, there are scholars from Israel who would love to just farm off their problems to the United States.

00:24:10.000 What's going on there?

00:24:12.000 And what do you think happens in that situation while we're talking sort of all things immigration?

00:24:17.000 Well, first of all, a lot of people owe Donald Trump a big apology who criticized the travel ban.

00:24:24.000 I remember, probably as you do, I remember that he wasn't just being criticized from the left, he was criticized from members of the so-called conservative movement, too, at the time.

00:24:36.000 The travel ban now, in light of what's happening in the world, probably to almost everyone now, would be one of Donald Trump's absolute best and most important policies.

00:24:48.000 Keeping radical jihadists out of the country for four years.

00:24:53.000 Because now what we're seeing under the Biden administration on our college campuses are all of these jihadists who've been let into our universities in the last few years to study who are pro-Hamas.

00:25:07.000 Continuing on their current path, they're not going to go home either, right?

00:25:11.000 They're going to get offered a job in the United States and they're going to become citizens and they're going to raise pro-Hamas children. 0.98

00:25:18.000 And we're going to have the same problem here that they have in London and they have in Paris and everywhere else.

00:25:24.000 We are importing anti-Semitism and anti-Americanism into this country from parts of the world that have viewpoints that are radically antithetical to our own.

00:25:36.000 So to your point specifically about Palestinian or Gazian refugees, their own neighbors don't want them because they fear the instability they would bring to their societies.

00:25:47.000 In other words, Egypt and Jordan travel a lot more cultural commonality with Gaza Are worried that the cultural attitude differences in Gaza would destabilize Egypt or destabilize Jordan.

00:26:03.000 So just hold on a second. But America, I've got a great idea for you.

00:26:09.000 Yes, in Egypt, what the heck is it going to do in New York or Indiana or Michigan?

00:26:17.000 Or Alabama. Or Arkansas.

00:26:20.000 I mean, you would have to be out of your mother-loving mind to even contemplate such a thing.

00:26:25.000 Their own neighbors, who know them better than anyone, are like, please, please, please do not send them to Egypt or Jordan.

00:26:31.000 And then people in the country who are saying, send them to us.

00:26:34.000 Egypt said something like they're willing to risk millions of lives, meaning they're going to go to war.

00:26:40.000 They'd go to war risking millions of lives.

00:26:42.000 Something to that. I saw the quote.

00:26:44.000 I was like, wait a minute. You'd be willing to lose millions of lives to prevent yourselves from taking over people who...

00:26:51.000 Same religion, but similar, at least, culture.

00:26:54.000 They live 100 miles away.

00:26:57.000 History and cultural history.

00:26:59.000 But you know what? They know, because that's where they're from, they know that there's been so much multi-generational indoctrination in the Palestinian territories, in the West Bank and in Gaza, That is not just taking them and moving them to a new location is not going to magically make that indoctrination disappear.

00:27:21.000 We've all seen the videos of children in kindergarten and preschool being taught all these hateful ideologies.

00:27:28.000 That doesn't just magically go away if you move them somewhere else.

00:27:31.000 It is generations of work.

00:27:34.000 To undo that kind of ideological programming.

00:27:39.000 And so the other countries there understand it. 0.99

00:27:41.000 And yet we have many people in America, not just on the left, who are either stupid enough or malicious enough to say, okay, let's relocate the Gaza community into Kentucky. 0.97

00:27:57.000 Yeah, no, there's not, like, no one has even attempted, like, there's not even a pretense of, like, let's call it assimilation, right? 0.98

00:28:06.000 They come here and they're a hardcore, in many cases, you know, Sharia law supporting model.

00:28:12.000 And they remain that way.

00:28:14.000 They don't welcome, they'll take, you know, they'll take the freebies from our country, but, like, they don't accept any of the other aspects of our culture. 0.93

00:28:21.000 You see that in Europe.

00:28:22.000 It's like, they're letting, you know, the rapes, you know, in Europe are going through the roof.

00:28:27.000 The only change has been a major influence.

00:28:30.000 And they're like, well, no, it's a cultural difference. 0.90

00:28:33.000 So we're going to forgive someone literally raping our women and children.

00:28:37.000 It's a cultural thing, Stephen.

00:28:39.000 We just got to accept that cultures are different.

00:28:42.000 I'm like, guess what, folks?

00:28:43.000 Not all cultures are created equal.

00:28:45.000 Just like there are shithole countries, there are shithole cultures. 1.00

00:28:50.000 That's not racist.

00:28:52.000 That's fact. And if rape is a part of a culture, it doesn't mean we should just blindly import it.

00:29:00.000 They've shown zero interest in assimilation or espousing our values.

00:29:06.000 And no one's saying you've got to change your culture.

00:29:08.000 I'm Eastern European, my mom's Czech, I speak the language, I know that.

00:29:12.000 You know, it's fine, but I'm still an American.

00:29:15.000 They are not.

00:29:17.000 They are still, you know, Palestinian, whatever it may be, and that's it. 0.99

00:29:21.000 They have no interest, and they've shown that time and time again.

00:29:23.000 And I watch this. The New York Times, I posted it on my social the other day, you know, the New York Times, sweeping raids, giant camps, and mass deportations inside Trump's 2025 immigration plans.

00:29:36.000 I'm like... Wait a minute.

00:29:38.000 Is this a trick question?

00:29:39.000 Are you saying it like that's a bad thing?

00:29:41.000 Because we see what's going on.

00:29:44.000 At Penn, my alma mater, I don't know if it is anymore, because the insanity that we see on the campus of that and other Ivy League colleges, Harvard, Cornell, the west coast of Stanford.

00:29:59.000 You're saying, what is going on?

00:30:01.000 There's literally jihadists on campus at the finest institutions in the world.

00:30:07.000 The anti-Semitism, the racism that we see there, we see all over Europe.

00:30:11.000 I mean, London, where they'll throw you in jail for misgendering someone for two years. 0.99

00:30:16.000 I mean, for misgendering a dude or a woman with a penis and a beard. 0.97

00:30:23.000 You get it wrong, you're going to jail for two years. 1.00

00:30:27.000 But, you know, you can say, hey, death to all the Jews, kill them all, behead them, it's good. 1.00

00:30:32.000 What is going on? 1.00

00:30:33.000 How is it even possible that this is happening in polite society today?

00:30:38.000 It is very bizarre that the things that, I mean, just think about the American University example.

00:30:43.000 The things that could get you suspended, disciplined, or even expelled.

00:30:48.000 Basically, if you said anything that Tucker Carlson said, or has said in the last few years, that we would all consider it to be mainstream, true common sense on a college campus, right?

00:31:01.000 You could face all kinds of disciplinary action.

00:31:04.000 But you could be a rabid Hamas supporter, and you will be completely shielded from disciplinary action.

00:31:11.000 You will face no consequences or repercussions whatsoever.

00:31:15.000 And it's because, in the case of our university system, that they are fundamentally committed to the deconstruction of Western civilization.

00:31:24.000 It's important to think of our universities today No longer as universities, but as training centers for dismantling Western institutions.

00:31:35.000 So all of these things, these terms that we've become familiar with now that we didn't know a few years ago, right?

00:31:40.000 Critical race theory, queer theory, and gender theory, now decolonization is the word we're all hearing.

00:31:46.000 All of these various academic...

00:31:49.000 Theories, disciplines, and so forth are all about trying to dismantle the structures of Western civilization, the way that we approach the legal system, the judiciary, law enforcement, police, military, etc.

00:32:02.000 And then the goal is to then produce people who will then become the future judges, the future prosecutors, the future FBI agents, who will be resolutely committed To jailing and punishing people who think like us, and letting the drug dealers, the cartel members, and all of the other threats in society go completely free.

00:32:26.000 Yeah, no, and you saw that.

00:32:27.000 You saw what happened at the DNC last week.

00:32:29.000 You know, they take it over, they're rioting, they're in there.

00:32:32.000 You know, none of those people are going to jail, put in solitary confinement, denied due process for, you know, jailed for 17 to 25 years.

00:32:38.000 Not one of those people is going to be solitary for two years.

00:32:40.000 I can promise you. Not one of those people is going to go to jail.

00:32:42.000 Like, and that's the difference.

00:32:44.000 I mean, that's why it is so frustrating when I talk about the guy.

00:32:47.000 No, no, no, but the Constitution says, Don, it's like...

00:32:50.000 We gotta wake the hell up with what's going on.

00:32:52.000 But let's talk a little bit more details at the border, right?

00:32:55.000 You know, Biden keeps...

00:32:56.000 You know, the Biden administration...

00:32:58.000 They're setting new records there every day, right?

00:33:01.000 These are not records that we should be proud of.

00:33:03.000 I guess 170 terrorists were caught at the border.

00:33:06.000 A record 2.5 million illegals crossed.

00:33:09.000 You know, imagine how many more actually got through.

00:33:11.000 I mean, I'm thinking of the terrorists that are sophisticated, especially now funded by Iran and all likelihood, et cetera. 0.73

00:33:17.000 We free up money for them.

00:33:19.000 How bad is Biden's open borders and the policies that are driving it as it relates You know, to all of this, because I don't think we can understand the volume.

00:33:30.000 It's literally becoming, you know, percentages, full percentage points of our population streaming across, in many cases totally incapable of taking care of themselves, in many, you know, just designed, it seems, to destroy our infrastructure. 1.00

00:33:45.000 You know, we have a disastrous education system.

00:33:47.000 Hey, flood it with millions more children who can't speak English, and congratulations, America, you can pay for that.

00:33:53.000 Our healthcare system.

00:33:55.000 Totally, you know, already a disaster.

00:33:57.000 Insurance premiums going through the roof, people getting crushed.

00:34:00.000 You know what? Hey, let's add a few more million people who are going to contribute nothing to that system. 0.99

00:34:04.000 Congratulations, America.

00:34:05.000 What's going on? Yeah, so it's worse than anybody could ever possibly imagine.

00:34:11.000 And I think that your point about the numbers is really significant, because I don't think that we can wrap our heads easily around the scale that we're talking about here.

00:34:20.000 So take, for example, the state of Montana, a state that I think is near and dear to all of our hearts, we love very much, has some of the most amazing people in the world.

00:34:30.000 That state has more or less about a million people.

00:34:33.000 And if you think about what Montana has contributed to the country, culturally, socially, economically, etc., right?

00:34:42.000 In a given year, Biden is bringing in three or four times as many people as live in all of Montana.

00:34:53.000 So they'll have three or four times more cultural power, social power, economic influence, commercial influence, political influence, right, as the entire state of Montana.

00:35:05.000 It took... Hundreds of years to make Montana what Montana is today, right?

00:35:10.000 All the settlers and farmers, the frontiersmen who carved out the land and the territory and tamed it, turn to what it is today.

00:35:17.000 And all that work.

00:35:19.000 Now, is outvoted and outmaneuvered by the millions and millions of people who are coming in who don't have, in many cases, the same values, the same priorities, just the same way of looking at the world.

00:35:37.000 And so the scale and the scope of transformation is really hard to fathom.

00:35:43.000 And you don't feel it or see it right away.

00:35:47.000 Because we're a pretty geographically dispersed country, right?

00:35:51.000 It's a large territory, unlike, say, United Kingdom, I mean, comparatively speaking.

00:35:56.000 And so, you know, I'm from Los Angeles originally, as an example.

00:35:59.000 I would obviously never go back there.

00:36:01.000 So if you live in your little cloistered part of LA, right? 0.90

00:36:06.000 So if you're in, like, a little cloistered part of LA, like, say, a nice community, like, by the beach, right?

00:36:12.000 Or a little enclave of Malibu, or a nice little strip of Beverly Hills.

00:36:16.000 You can sort of shut your eyes and ears and not notice that there are millions of people, millions living in abject poverty.

00:36:25.000 There are millions of people who are not fluent or proficient in English.

00:36:32.000 There are millions of people who rely solely on the government for substance.

00:36:38.000 There are millions of children in public schools who cannot read or write or do arithmetic.

00:36:44.000 The effects of open borders over years has completely destroyed the quality of living, the social safety net, the education system, everything.

00:36:52.000 But if you live in a certain area, you can just pretend it's not there.

00:36:55.000 But it is there.

00:36:57.000 And we will rapidly reach a tipping point because of Joe Biden, where our country will become economically unstable.

00:37:04.000 We will have far more people on welfare than we can afford to pay for.

00:37:08.000 Our tax space will not be able to support our economic needs.

00:37:12.000 Our cities will become ungovernable.

00:37:14.000 Our education system will collapse.

00:37:16.000 We are nearing that tipping point far more quickly than people realize.

00:37:20.000 Yeah, and it's sort of like the Chinese, right?

00:37:22.000 They're playing a long game, right?

00:37:24.000 They're, hey, we'll let you in.

00:37:26.000 It doesn't matter. And it's really, to me, seemed designed around the next census.

00:37:32.000 What's that? In eight years or so.

00:37:33.000 You know, it doesn't matter. You can be illegal.

00:37:35.000 If you're there, you get representation.

00:37:37.000 They slap members of Congress.

00:37:38.000 It's their way of redistricting the entire country, right?

00:37:42.000 Right. There's this many more people.

00:37:43.000 They need representation.

00:37:45.000 It assures that the Democrats ultimately take over the House in perpetuity, and that's when they just crush every other aspect of our lives.

00:37:53.000 I mean, I guess that's the only really logical way that they're playing this game, which is fine.

00:37:58.000 We're going to do this. It's going to destroy these cities.

00:38:00.000 It doesn't really matter. In eight years, they'll have a new census, and then, congratulations, we're redistricting the country, and the Democrats will control two-thirds of Congress in perpetuity.

00:38:11.000 Exactly right. A lot of people don't realize, by the way, that illegal aliens are used for apportionment to put more members of Congress in certain locations.

00:38:19.000 Many people don't realize that.

00:38:21.000 Secondly... Yeah, you're counted whether you're...

00:38:23.000 It's not for citizens, which is mind-boggling to me, but it's everyone, and I guess that's something else.

00:38:29.000 Maybe you've got to start fighting at America first, but...

00:38:32.000 Yes, and that's obviously...

00:38:35.000 Yeah, that's obviously unconstitutional, but that's how it was done, and that has to change.

00:38:39.000 But on top of that, you also have this phenomenon known as birthright citizenship, which creates voters and citizens within each illegal immigrant household.

00:38:52.000 And so, just hypothetically, you take a typical illegal immigrant family, they have, say, four children who are all automatically confirmed citizenship.

00:39:00.000 You can then use your child's citizenship status As access to every single federal welfare and government program, because you're applying on behalf of the US citizen.

00:39:11.000 So food stamps, public housing, federal health care, and so on and so forth down the list.

00:39:18.000 And then obviously, when they turn 18, then they become voters, and they also have chain migration and everything else.

00:39:23.000 So the effects multiply and expand with time.

00:39:28.000 And if we don't, as your point of the New York Times article, If we don't move quickly to expel all the people that Biden let in, it won't just be 10 million people, which is bad enough, whatever the number is.

00:39:43.000 It will be 10 million people plus 20 million children plus their 20 million relatives.

00:39:52.000 In other words, that is a base.

00:39:54.000 It is a foundation which will expand exponentially and compound the effects, again, beyond what we can even imagine.

00:40:02.000 Okay, so I wasn't going to out you, but yeah, you grew up in Santa Monica, okay?

00:40:06.000 The People's Republic of California, okay?

00:40:09.000 But hard to believe.

00:40:11.000 I mean, as a Jewish American who's been called a Nazi and everything like that, it's sort of amazing. 0.99

00:40:16.000 But the last couple of weeks has truly been like...

00:40:19.000 And honestly, maybe it's the rude awakening we need to see just how insane our Democrat policymakers are, the people who back them, the people who they back over the American people.

00:40:29.000 But you grew up in Santa Monica, and we saw part of the I-10 freeway in Los Angeles be totally destroyed due to a fire that officials are saying is arson.

00:40:40.000 Possibly linked to the homeless encampments underneath the highway.

00:40:43.000 I mean, I don't know if this is one of the highways that's racist because it was too tall or too short to house.

00:40:48.000 I don't know. That was the Pete Buttigieg insanity.

00:40:50.000 But talk about growing up on the west side of Los Angeles and how it's changed.

00:40:57.000 Listen, this is a bastion of liberal insanity, but do the people there finally wake up?

00:41:04.000 What's going to happen to the infrastructure?

00:41:06.000 You lose one of those big freeways, it's already a disaster getting around LA. Do you think this impacts other people's political views?

00:41:16.000 The start and the fall of California from when you were born to today?

00:41:21.000 I mean, California was the home of Reagan.

00:41:24.000 Did that change your political views?

00:41:26.000 But more importantly, does anyone ever actually wake up to all of this?

00:41:29.000 It certainly shaped them.

00:41:31.000 Growing up in the Southland of California, And seeing with my own eyes how these radical left policies, as well as open borders, was ruining what was this paradise.

00:41:46.000 I mean, it's hard to even explain how good the weather is in Los Angeles if you haven't been there.

00:41:54.000 Basically, 12 months a year, it's neither too hot nor too cold, which is amazing.

00:42:01.000 It's like, December, weather's good.

00:42:03.000 The middle of July, weather's good.

00:42:06.000 And they have this massive, beautiful coastline, right?

00:42:10.000 So beautiful climate, not humid.

00:42:12.000 Everything's perfect. And they've turned it into a hellhole.

00:42:16.000 You know how hard you have to work to destroy a place that nice?

00:42:20.000 I mean, it is a spectacular achievement in the worst way possible to ruin California, and that's what they did.

00:42:29.000 So it absolutely shaped a lot of my thinking.

00:42:32.000 As to whether or not it will be able to turn around, I fear that California is in a death spiral.

00:42:40.000 And so they're going to have to bottom out long and hard.

00:42:43.000 I don't think there's going to be an awakening in time.

00:42:45.000 So my honest advice to people in California Um, who, who understand how bad it is and aren't living in a delusion is if you have the means and ability to leave, just leave.

00:42:59.000 Just give up on California and leave. 0.99

00:43:01.000 But if you, if you have that shit that like, just don't bring the shit with you. 1.00

00:43:08.000 Let's make sure we don't California the rest of America. 1.00

00:43:11.000 If we California the rest of America, we're screwed. 0.88

00:43:14.000 But that's happening. That's the problem. 0.73

00:43:16.000 You see that in Texas. You go to Austin, and in the last decade, You know, it is literally like the People's Republic of California East.

00:43:26.000 It is perhaps more liberal than San Francisco. 0.97

00:43:30.000 So, you know, people escape, but they bring, like, even, like, 10% of the crap with them. 0.95

00:43:35.000 It's like, no, no, but we should be able to do this. 0.88

00:43:36.000 This is fine. And slowly but surely, they destroy everything they touch.

00:43:40.000 It's like a parasitic relationship.

00:43:42.000 You know, no, no, we're escaping that, but we're only bringing a little bit with us, and then it...

00:43:47.000 Snowballs, right? It is the ultimate irony.

00:43:54.000 It also just shows how human beings are sometimes incapable of seeing their own failures.

00:44:01.000 You will have people, and we all know people like this to some extent or another, who live their whole lives in Manhattan or their whole lives in L.A., and they complain about everything.

00:44:11.000 They complain about the crime, the cost of living, the public transit, the public schools.

00:44:17.000 You know, they'll spend a fortune just to keep their kids out of the public schools while complaining about the taxes that they're spending to pay for the public schools.

00:44:26.000 And that they'll move somewhere else, right?

00:44:29.000 And they'll vote for the same taxes, the same public school policies, the same public safety policies, the same, same, same, same, same.

00:44:35.000 As though the reason why California was failing was some property in the soil, or the reason why New York City was failing was some property in the water.

00:44:44.000 No, it's you. You are the failure.

00:44:46.000 You are the reason. 1.00

00:44:48.000 Every time you showed up to some stupid fundraiser and wrote a max-out check for some stupid left-wing politician, you are literally the problem. 1.00

00:44:57.000 And so, yeah, we don't want you to move. 1.00

00:44:59.000 We don't want you to move out at all.

00:45:00.000 You stay right there. It'll be great.

00:45:03.000 Enjoy the weather. It's lovely.

00:45:05.000 It's lovely. Please don't come.

00:45:08.000 This interview and who are agreeing with us, by all means, please move to Austin, Texas and try to bring some sanity there.

00:45:15.000 You're right. If Austin becomes San Francisco and the numbers keep growing, that changes how the Senate races go.

00:45:23.000 It changes how the state legislature races go.

00:45:26.000 And, you know, look, in 10 years between that and the open borders, Who knows what politically is going to be happening in Texas?

00:45:35.000 Yeah, no, it's a problem. I saw that.

00:45:37.000 I saw that because it isn't just Austin, right?

00:45:40.000 You know, I saw that a lot during the last couple cycles.

00:45:43.000 It's like I go to Dallas, you know, and I go to visit a buddy of mine in, like, Highland Park, nice neighborhood, whatever it is, and I'm going through and it's like I'm seeing all these Beto signs.

00:45:52.000 Like, these are rich, spoiled people, like, living great lives.

00:45:55.000 And it's like, but it's like, honestly, I think it's like the housewife.

00:45:58.000 Like, some of these rich suburban housewives, they're so bored that their entire existence, 1.00

00:46:06.000 they don't really want for anything.

00:46:08.000 And it's, how do we get perceived as cool while in the line at Starbucks and at the little?

00:46:15.000 And they're pushing the insanity because they basically have nothing to worry about.

00:46:20.000 They're going to be behind their fences.

00:46:21.000 They're going to be in the gated communities.

00:46:23.000 But because of the social construct and the social structures of the left,

00:46:27.000 It's like you get bonus points by being extra woke and you can do this thing.

00:46:31.000 So they're voting for policies that would destroy their own neighborhoods, but they don't really care because they're probably rich enough to avoid it.

00:46:36.000 It's everyone else. And I see that problem sort of manifesting itself.

00:46:42.000 They don't know anything what's going on in politics because they don't want for anything.

00:46:45.000 You know, they're sitting at home and they're Lululemon and going to yoga and going to Starbucks and going to some juice bar and like drinking wine at lunch every day.

00:46:55.000 And it's like, well, how do we get cool? 1.00

00:46:57.000 It's like, well, we'll talk about these things and we'll support idiots like Beto O'Rourke. 1.00

00:47:01.000 It makes no sense, but it's happening daily. 1.00

00:47:05.000 Yes. The demographic you're talking about, the insufferable rich white liberal, is wreaking absolute havoc on this country. 0.98

00:47:16.000 Because they're not just voting for all of these policies and politicians, but they're opening their checkbooks. 0.87

00:47:25.000 And that all adds up.

00:47:27.000 And so it's what some have called, as you know, the woke mind virus, right?

00:47:32.000 And so this This religion, this cult, this virtue signaling where they're competing with each other to be the most anti-racist, right?

00:47:43.000 To be the most, you know, willing to have a trans child or to create a trans child.

00:47:49.000 No, it's not just a medical...

00:47:50.000 It's actually an accessory.

00:47:52.000 Like, the trans child... 1.00

00:47:54.000 Like, why is it that, like, every Hollywood celebrity has a trans child magically? 0.71

00:47:57.000 Like, you would think that would defy the laws of statistics, right?

00:48:01.000 If there are X number of kids that are gay, X number... 1.00

00:48:03.000 Like... There's a gross over-performance in those societies because it's actually cool. 0.91

00:48:10.000 You're not cool if you don't have a trans child.

00:48:13.000 Have you noticed how some celebrities adopt kids from far away countries And then multiples of them turn out to be trans.

00:48:24.000 And yet no people in those countries are actually trans because they actually have real problems to worry about.

00:48:31.000 Adopted from a population of 0% trans, all of a sudden, they're magically, at four years old, they decided they're going to be... 0.99

00:48:38.000 It's amazing.

00:48:40.000 And so, yeah, it's a real significant driver of the problem because that group of people, if you're lucky enough to work in corporate America, That group of people are probably your HR managers.

00:48:54.000 They're probably your mid-level boss.

00:48:56.000 They're probably the legal department.

00:49:00.000 And so they're the gatekeepers to professional life in America.

00:49:03.000 They're the ones forcing these workshops down people's throats. 0.98

00:49:06.000 And so if we don't as a movement fight back against that, We're going to keep on losing.

00:49:15.000 That's why it's so important to our beginning conversation, and this is what my organization is doing, you have to sue the corporations that are pushing these policies.

00:49:23.000 You know, for example, we sued Target.

00:49:26.000 In the aftermath of their disastrous Pride Month rollout that sank their shareholder value.

00:49:32.000 You have to go on offense.

00:49:34.000 We need Congress to defund critical race theory and gender theory and all of these things. 0.99

00:49:40.000 It's not enough just to say, I don't support it.

00:49:43.000 You actually have to go after it and try and shut it down because it will destroy this country.

00:49:50.000 No, 100%. And there's so much of that going on.

00:49:53.000 I mean, I saw the stats, like the S&P 500 companies was like, of the 600,000 jobs or whatever, this was two, three weeks ago, so I don't remember the stats exactly, but of the hundreds of thousands of jobs created by the S&P 500 in their, you know, like 13% went to white people.

00:50:09.000 I'm like, wait, 13% in a country that's 70%?

00:50:12.000 I'm like, wait a second. Like, there wasn't just a magical underperformance, you know, by white people. 0.81

00:50:19.000 And I saw that story you were mentioning.

00:50:21.000 In those companies, it's like, no, no, no, but if you check a box, you don't have to be the best candidate.

00:50:26.000 You don't have to be the best, but if you check a box, diversity is somehow our strength.

00:50:30.000 No one's been able to point out to me how, but it doesn't matter because they say it loud, and corporate America will do that.

00:50:36.000 I'm like, so you're saying, they're like, how...

00:50:38.000 Don, you must be racist because you can't imagine that someone overperformed from a minority group.

00:50:43.000 I go, no, of course. Listen, I see it all the time.

00:50:45.000 There's incredible people.

00:50:47.000 But you're telling me that of hundreds of thousands of jobs, magically, all white people grossly underperformed and all minorities grossly overperformed in public corporations? 0.90

00:51:02.000 That's literally...

00:51:03.000 It's not statistically possible.

00:51:07.000 It's certainly not plausible, but it doesn't even matter.

00:51:11.000 They ran this thing like it was the greatest thing in the world.

00:51:13.000 But if you're a shareholder...

00:51:16.000 If you're a shareholder, and this is when we talk about some of our sponsors, it sort of lines up with it.

00:51:20.000 If you're a shareholder in that woke company, you have someone that almost certainly is going to be underperforming doing a job.

00:51:27.000 You're not delivering the value.

00:51:29.000 You're not exercising your fiduciary responsibility as a corporate officer if these are your hiring practices.

00:51:35.000 And yet, they're not even hiding from it.

00:51:37.000 They're not just doing it under the thing, hoping they don't get caught. 0.99

00:51:40.000 They don't give a shit if they get caught. 0.96

00:51:42.000 They're actually putting it out there like it's a great idea. 0.99

00:51:45.000 Yeah. For a long time.

00:51:46.000 And yeah, so, I mean, most importantly, it's illegal.

00:51:52.000 So these companies, in many cases, have explicit hiring, training, recruiting, etc.

00:52:01.000 programs. That are exclusionary, that say this race is allowed, this race isn't allowed.

00:52:09.000 And obviously, most of the time, the excluded group are going to be white, sometimes white and Asian, and oftentimes men as well are disadvantaged.

00:52:20.000 And so, for example, we just filed a civil rights complaint.

00:52:24.000 This is one that really, I think, upsets people, against multiple airline companies.

00:52:30.000 For hiring and recruiting based on race, including pilots.

00:52:37.000 If you can think of a crazier idea than hiring pilots on race rather than objective job capability, I can't think of one. 0.61

00:52:47.000 And, you know, we've all seen the reports about a lot of near misses in aviation recently.

00:52:52.000 These policies are ultimately going to get people killed.

00:52:56.000 You know, we thought a lot of people didn't take it seriously when the discrimination was just happening in, you know, what you think of as like the soft fields, right?

00:53:06.000 Like, you know, marketing or something.

00:53:08.000 Although illegal is illegal, wrong is wrong.

00:53:10.000 Now they are using these policies in the life or death professions, right?

00:53:15.000 Like flying an airplane.

00:53:18.000 I mean, this is truly mad.

00:53:21.000 Yeah, no, and I saw that.

00:53:22.000 It was the pilots as well as air traffic control.

00:53:25.000 So like, what could go wrong? All I know, Stephen, is that if I'm going to die in a fiery ball falling out of the sky at 36,000 feet, I want to know that I contributed to woke hiring practices.

00:53:38.000 Because that's what I But you see that.

00:53:41.000 Yeah, they should ask you to sign a waiver.

00:53:44.000 You know, they say, are you willing to perform the duties in the exit row?

00:53:46.000 They should ask you, are you willing to sacrifice your life on this plane today to help our company hit its equity quota?

00:53:52.000 Yeah, but again, they're running around out there.

00:53:55.000 They're advertising it.

00:53:56.000 You should be thrilled to get on this plane because we've got a trans pilot.

00:54:00.000 Do they know how to fly a plane?

00:54:01.000 I don't know. I mean, who knows?

00:54:03.000 It's minor details.

00:54:05.000 I'm a licensed pilot.

00:54:06.000 I went through the training. It's lunacy.

00:54:10.000 By the way, I don't care if all of the pilots are minorities. 0.98

00:54:14.000 If you're green and you're the best pilot in the world, I... I fly like 350,000 miles a year, practically more than any human being in the world.

00:54:23.000 Like, you know, most of it commercial coach. 0.99

00:54:27.000 Like, I want that pilot to be able to land the damn plane. 0.98

00:54:30.000 Not that they're there because they checked off a couple boxes and they're doing it, but they're actively recruiting it. 0.99

00:54:35.000 But what's even crazier is that our country, our mindset, is so warped now that there are people actually cheering

00:54:42.000 the fact that you're getting on a plane that may have someone

00:54:45.000 less qualified so that we can fill diversity quotas.

00:54:49.000 The airlines are literally advertising it as though it's like, this is a reason to fly our airline,

00:54:56.000 as opposed to to avoid it at all possible costs.

00:54:59.000 It's mind-blowing to me.

00:55:01.000 And here's the thing, is that if you actually gave Americans a choice, no matter what

00:55:07.000 the skin color of the American citizen was, we all know what they would choose.

00:55:11.000 In other words, if you said, okay, you can pick from two airlines, same price, same seat, same everything, flying to the same destination, same airport, no difference at all.

00:55:20.000 But this one thing, airline A chose the pilot who had the highest score on their flying exam and the most hours logged.

00:55:30.000 Airline B chose the pilot that helped them achieve a specific diversity hiring goal.

00:55:37.000 Everyone's choosing A. No matter what the skin color... 0.99

00:55:40.000 Honestly, at this point, Stephen, I disagree with you.

00:55:43.000 At this point, there are liberals that would choose B just because.

00:55:47.000 And that's what it feels like. 0.98

00:55:49.000 There's one demographic that would choose B, which is the insufferable white liberal. 0.98

00:55:53.000 You're right. By the way, the minorities that may be the beneficiary of some of these policies, even they're choosing A, okay? 0.96

00:56:01.000 But the suburban white housewife, that's the one that may choose B. Only the one with the yard sign that says, in this house, you know, we're trans and critical race theory and hate has no home here. 1.00

00:56:15.000 The yard sign people, the only one that are choosing B. Yeah, I actually...

00:56:18.000 Everyone else is shooting me. I had a buddy call me the other day.

00:56:22.000 He literally was like, I just got on a plane, and he's panicking.

00:56:25.000 He's like, the pilot made an announcement.

00:56:28.000 I forget the airline. I don't need to call it out.

00:56:30.000 But it was like, this is Captain so-and-so, and I am ex-airlines, major airline carrier.

00:56:35.000 Like, not even one of the budget ones.

00:56:38.000 And I am the first trans pilot to be...

00:56:41.000 And he was just like... Literally, text me like, holy shit, I'm gonna die. 0.99

00:56:46.000 But it wasn't even like, who cares? 0.97

00:56:49.000 If that's the best pilot, I'm happy to have every pilot in America be trans, if for some reason that makes them great. 0.97

00:56:55.000 Now, if they're on all sorts of meds to help stabilize their hormonal levels and make sure they're not crazy, you know, when I see some of the violence coming out of the trans community, I'm like, I don't know, do I want my pilot jacked up on all sorts of hormonal medications to make sure that they're fine?

00:57:10.000 Probably not. Probably not.

00:57:13.000 But they're highlighting it.

00:57:15.000 They're not indifferent to it, because it's the best person.

00:57:18.000 They're highlighting it to the people.

00:57:20.000 This buddy of mine is obviously fairly conservative, but people are like, am I clapping or am I praying?

00:57:29.000 Praying to God that we don't fall out of the sky right now.

00:57:33.000 Yep, no, I'm in complete agreement on all of that.

00:57:35.000 I mean, it's truly a just an incomprehensible situation that we've ended up in as a country.

00:57:43.000 So you tweeted the other day.

00:57:45.000 This was sort of an interesting one.

00:57:47.000 A poll after poll shows that Trump is not just beating, but crushing Biden.

00:57:52.000 This is why Biden and the Democrats are desperate to throw Trump in prison.

00:57:55.000 And this is why the moral duty of Republicans who believe in democracy and oppose our dissent into tyranny

00:58:03.000 is to support Trump.

00:58:05.000 I think you're exactly right.

00:58:06.000 I mean, there's a reason they're trying to crush that.

00:58:08.000 Everything that they said of Trump, you know.

00:58:10.000 They are functioning like the Nazis. 0.87

00:58:13.000 They are functioning like dictators.

00:58:15.000 They're trying to jail their political opponents.

00:58:18.000 They're trying to silence the speech of others.

00:58:23.000 Are the other Republicans running in this primary just sort of banking on that the Democrat lawfare succeeds?

00:58:29.000 Are they just actually hoping that while they may oppose it in theory, right?

00:58:32.000 I remember Ron DeSantis said this.

00:58:35.000 No, the lawfare, it is what it is.

00:58:37.000 And then they indicted Trump the next day.

00:58:40.000 They almost feel complicit with the Democrats.

00:58:44.000 Like, hey, the lawfare is okay as long as it moves me forward politically.

00:58:47.000 And then other than that, I'm really against it.

00:58:50.000 What's going on? No, I think that's clearly what's happening.

00:58:54.000 I think that there's a lot of people who are in the stop Trump, the never Trump, the anti-Trump category, candidates, politicians, donors, etc., who are just wishing and hoping and waiting that the lawfare somehow changes the dynamic in the primary.

00:59:11.000 Because clearly, if the objective is just as it should be, To defeat the radical left, to stop Joe Biden, etc., then obviously, even if you're not a hardcore pro-Trump conservative, but you just care about taking your country back, you would say that now's the time to consolidate, put your resources behind the runaway frontrunner.

00:59:40.000 I mean, it's not even close. Nothing like it before in history in terms of the gap.

00:59:44.000 Stop wasting money on an internecine primary battle and focus all of your energies, like getting your ballot operations in order, getting your harvesting operations in order, and focusing on the general election.

00:59:55.000 Instead, we're going to waste tens of millions, hundreds of millions of dollars, basically attacking Trump from two directions.

01:00:03.000 You have DOJ attacking him, and then you have other Republicans attacking him.

01:00:07.000 Yeah, I'm watching the Biden administration take all the DeSantis stuff and utilize it.

01:00:11.000 I'm like, that seems great for conservatism.

01:00:14.000 It's pretty actually sad.

01:00:16.000 And you understand, they just have a lot of money in their super PACs.

01:00:18.000 The consultants are stealing the vast majority of that money, right?

01:00:21.000 If we buy an ad, it's going to run through our ad company, and we're going to go through our purchasing company, and we get to take 60% of that money.

01:00:29.000 We've got $50 million left, so we can probably pocket another $30 million and change into the hands of two or three people.

01:00:36.000 And that's what people don't understand.

01:00:38.000 They think these are like genuine attacks, and it's just a big grift from the people in the swamp.

01:00:43.000 You know, something else we've got to just try to expose so people just understand, you know, they're being manipulated not because people actually believe in these things, but because they understand that this is how a lot of people in the swamp make a lot of money.

01:00:57.000 Yes, I mean, I think the people don't really sometimes understand the economic model here, which is that The ad firms, the consultancy firms, the various campaign firms, the longer the primary goes on, the more money that they make.

01:01:14.000 And so it's very enriching for them.

01:01:16.000 Now, I'm not saying, of course, that there should never be primaries in any circumstance.

01:01:23.000 What I'm saying is, you have the overwhelming choice.

01:01:28.000 Of conservative Americans, Republican Americans, GOP primary voters, all saying, we want Trump, we want Trump, we want Trump.

01:01:37.000 Every day, every week, every month that we are continuing this primary, instead of focusing on the general election, we are helping all of the forces that you and I talked about today who are trying to destroy this country.

01:01:51.000 It's just that simple.

01:01:54.000 Yeah. So, your America First legal group is fighting to get access to some of these, you know, Biden alias emails.

01:02:04.000 Names like Robin Ware.

01:02:05.000 I think it was like, I can't, I mean, it almost feels like I can't be right.

01:02:08.000 Like, 87,000 emails sent by Joe Biden under an alias name.

01:02:14.000 I mean, I don't know that I've ever sent 87,000 emails, period, but under an alias?

01:02:20.000 What's the status of those emails?

01:02:22.000 Why was Joe Biden using an alias or a pseudonym?

01:02:26.000 Does he have a good reason for that other than obviously hiding the corruption that's going on?

01:02:31.000 I mean, what could this possibly be?

01:02:33.000 And how is this not a big deal?

01:02:36.000 You know, I watched the new speaker of the House.

01:02:38.000 Well, we don't really have enough to go after Joe Biden.

01:02:40.000 I mean, why on earth would he be getting checks from his brother?

01:02:44.000 Why on earth are the grandkids getting checks from Chinese-controlled entities?

01:02:48.000 There's literally not a plausible argument.

01:02:51.000 They were not business people.

01:02:52.000 They were not doing deals prior to him amassing power and these things.

01:02:57.000 But even our own side is like, well, we're not really sure yet.

01:03:00.000 I'm like, no one else would get the benefit of the doubt in this.

01:03:03.000 It's certainly not from the Democrats.

01:03:06.000 What's going on and how bad is the corruption?

01:03:09.000 Yeah, well, the corruption, obviously, is like nothing we've ever seen before.

01:03:12.000 And every day, thanks in large part to James Comer, a new revelation comes out about the kickbacks, about the shady financial dealings, the pay for play, the influence peddling, the tax evasion, and so on and so forth with the Biden crime family.

01:03:30.000 But now, as you mentioned, you also have this scandal where you have thousands of emails sent under aliases and pseudonyms when Joe Biden was vice president that clearly suggest an effort to conceal the discovery of these communications.

01:03:46.000 So my organization is fighting to get access to these emails.

01:03:49.000 As I know as James Comer, we've also obtained many other emails from the Office of the Vice President showing just how extensively Joe Biden's Vice Presidential Office and Hunter Biden's Rosemont Seneca interacted and co-mingled during Joe Biden's time as Vice President.

01:04:07.000 So what are some of the other America First legal efforts that we should be aware of that people can, you know, tell us about those?

01:04:14.000 Because again, you're one of the few.

01:04:16.000 I mean, we have to be doing it.

01:04:17.000 We have to be playing the same game.

01:04:18.000 Hopefully this show sort of awakens people to that.

01:04:20.000 But like, you're one of the few guys doing that.

01:04:22.000 They've got hundreds. Thank you.

01:04:23.000 What are some of the efforts that you guys are doing that people should be aware of?

01:04:26.000 And how do they find out more about America First legal?

01:04:30.000 So please go to aflegal.org.

01:04:32.000 That's aflegal.org.

01:04:35.000 I think that what I would say is, in addition to what I discussed earlier, we also just won a big case relating to letting children opt out of radical left lesson plans in a...

01:04:49.000 Far left school district.

01:04:50.000 Then we also just sued the Montgomery County Public Schools for denying parents access to public meetings after pushing trans materials in the classroom.

01:05:01.000 And then we're also expanding our push into suing corporations and entities for what we've talked about today, which are these racist DEI policies.

01:05:08.000 So, for example, we have a lawsuit against Amazon for race-based discrimination.

01:05:12.000 We have a lawsuit against medical schools in Texas for race-based discrimination.

01:05:16.000 We sued NYU for race-based discrimination.

01:05:18.000 By the way, another place, sort of like my pilot's, I want the best doctor, whether they're, you know, green, blue, or purple.

01:05:28.000 I want the best doctor, not someone who got a doctor checkbox.

01:05:33.000 That seems like another big one, but minor details, right?

01:05:36.000 Yes, medical school is definitely an area where you want the best.

01:05:38.000 You do not want skin color to be the determining factor of whether or not you get a medical license.

01:05:42.000 So, bottom line, we're suing all the bad guys, one lawsuit after another, hard-hitting litigation,

01:05:49.000 winning big victories, achieving one significant landmark for the conservative legal movement

01:05:55.000 after another.

01:05:56.000 And you can read all about it at AFLegal.org, and hopefully you can support us and join

01:05:59.000 us and follow our latest legal actions.

01:06:01.000 Well, Stephen, great to have you back on, man.

01:06:04.000 Thanks a lot.

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01:06:24.000 You too. Happy Thanksgiving.

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Stephen Miller is Flipping the Script on the Left's Lawfare: Here's How We Win | TRIGGERED Ep.87

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