Tom Homan is the former Acting Director of ICE and has worked to enforce America's immigration laws for decades, since 1984. He served under six US presidents, including Ronald Reagan. He is currently the CEO and President of Border 911 and has been with ICE for over 30 years. He has been on the ground on both sides of the border fighting human trafficking, sex trafficking, rape, and fentanyl. He is a true patriot and has dedicated his life to protecting our southern border and the people who cross it. In this episode, Tom talks about what's going on on the border and how the Trump administration is trying to cover up the reality of what's happening on the southern border. He also talks about why it's so important to see what's actually going on at the border, and how important it is to be prepared for the next crisis. Stay tuned for a brand new sponsor, The Wellness Company, a leading provider of emergency medical kits, to make sure you have what your family needs when the next next crisis hits. Go to donjrgold.co/triggered to get a 15% discount on their Emergency Medical Kit that includes 8 life-saving medications, including amoxicillin, Zepeda, Z-Pak, and Invermectin, for you to keep on hand in case of a medical emergency. Go check them out by going to DonjrGold.co and get 15% off your total bill! and learn more. Go to go to TWTRiggered.co.co to save 15% on your total cost of your medical supplies and supplies, and secure your family's best interests! and your best chance to have it all in your best possible chance of survival in a time of crisis. Just learn what they have to do it all while you can do it! You don't have to be a victim of a crisis, you don t have to wait for a doctor's appointment, just learn what you need to have a medical kit to get your own emergency kit to make it so you can be prepared and be prepared so you don't miss it! Go to TWTTriggered for a discount on the next emergency kit? go to twc.co, go to Triggered .co and get a discount discount on a $15% discount! Go get it now! go to TwcHealthtriggergered for 15% OFF your first kit!
00:05:30.000guys welcome to another huge episode of trigger Tonight we're joined by a true patriot, Tom Homan.
00:05:51.000Tom is the former acting director of ICE, and he worked to enforce America's immigration laws for decades, since 1984, under I believe it's six presidents, starting with Reagan.
00:06:04.000Tom is currently the CEO and president of Border 911 and I'm pleased he's gonna be joining us today.
00:06:10.000It's so important to see what's actually going on at the border. Tom has been doing this for a long time.
00:09:56.000Have it. Be prepared to take care of your loved ones in need.
00:10:01.000And with that, guys, joining me now, former director of ICE, Tom Holman.
00:10:06.000Okay, guys, joining me now, this is such a crisis, it's so insane what's going on, is former ICE director Tom Homan.
00:10:15.000Tom, you're in Texas right now, and I actually like this, right?
00:10:18.000Unlike our border czar Kamala Harris, who maybe came within a couple hundred miles of the border maybe once, you're actually in Texas right now visiting the border.
00:10:29.000You're taking the time to actually see what's going on.
00:10:34.000And unlike the fictitious nonsense coming from the administration, you're on the ground.
00:10:45.000How insane is what's going on right now down there doing?
00:10:49.000The only hope we got is that January 2025, President Trump walks back in the White House and lets us do what we did before and secure the board at the highest level of my lifetime.
00:11:25.000I'm here with the air unit, and I can tell you, they've seized a lot of drugs coming across the border.
00:11:30.000Particularly where I am, it's very desolate territory.
00:11:33.000So, these aren't people that are going to turn themselves in.
00:11:35.000What this sector here deals with is those that want to get away.
00:11:39.000Those carrying drugs, those that are criminals, gang members that don't want to turn themselves in.
00:11:43.000So, that's why this operation here is very important.
00:11:46.000So I keep seeing that you talk about those who are turning themselves in because they used to be like, hey, no matter what, even if you were coming across and you're just maybe looking for a better life, you still tried to get through it and not get caught.
00:12:00.000The people come, they're just, hey, I want to get caught because the government's going to give me, you know, some money or put me on a program and give me free of health care and education.
00:12:07.000Like, they're literally like, okay, here I am, you know, just let me into the country and give me everything that there is to give.
00:12:13.000I mean, how has that changed in the last few years?
00:12:15.000Because it seems like they're literally not even attempting to evade.
00:12:17.000I'm sure there's plenty of, you know, the human traffickers and the sex traffickers and the fentanyl traffickers and the disaster that's there.
00:12:23.000Uh, I'm sure they're running still rampant and they're not trying to get caught and they're probably getting away with that and that's before we even get to the terrorists but it doesn't seem like anyone else is looking to evade because the policies are designed to allow them into the country.
00:12:37.000Look, and that's why this crisis just continues to get worse.
00:12:41.000They don't care that the secretary, who should have been impeached two years ago, says don't come.
00:12:47.000They don't care if President Biden says don't come.
00:12:49.000They're looking at the actions of the government.
00:12:50.000They know right now the government is releasing thousands a day into the United States.
00:12:54.000You know, we have sent a message to the entire world.
00:13:10.000So yeah, as long as they keep releasing people, as long as there's no consequence, they're going to keep coming.
00:13:16.000On the Trump administration, we ended catch and release.
00:13:18.000They knew, you're going to cross the border legally, you're going to be arrested, you're going to be detained, you're going to be removed.
00:13:23.000This administration tore that all down, and that's why we have record numbers now.
00:13:27.000Yeah, so talk about the differences between Texas DPS and what's going on with, let's call it, Federal Border Patrol.
00:13:35.000Obviously, some great folks in Texas taking that on.
00:13:38.000I know Greg Abbott's been fairly vocal about what's going on there, but are they able to do more than what Federal Border Patrol would be allowed to be doing right now?
00:13:50.000Well, I can tell you, look, I think Governor Abbott's done more to secure this border than anybody in the Biden administration for sure, right?
00:13:55.000Because his troopers, the people I'm with, every pound of fentanyl they seize, that's a hell of a lot less overdose deaths in this country.
00:14:03.000Everybody they arrest, they at least get vetted and get fingerprinted, unlike this administration.
00:14:08.000So the unit I'm with right now, they're filling the gaps because the Border Patrol, as I said, is so overwhelmed.
00:14:13.000There's large portions of the border that There's not a single Border Patrol unit formed within 50 miles.
00:14:22.000They send these large family groups through the border, knowing that's going to overwhelm the Border Patrol, the 30% that's left on the border, because the other 70% are processing, and they create gaps.
00:14:32.000And that's when they move the fentanyl across to kill Americans.
00:14:35.000That's when they sex traffic women and children.
00:14:37.000That's when the no-inspected terrorists are going to cross.
00:14:39.000So Texas DPS is trying to fill the gaps.
00:14:42.000They can patrol the border where there's very little, if any, border patrol agents.
00:14:45.000And like I said, this unit here I'm with here today in Alpine, Texas, they have seized a record amount of narcotics.
00:15:00.000We found several young illegal aliens that were in very, very bad shape and probably would have died if it wasn't for Texas TPS. Again, this administration's policies are not humane.
00:15:11.000A record number of migrants have died since Joe Biden had been in the White House.
00:15:44.000It's brutal. I have friends down there, just my outdoor activities take me down there a lot.
00:15:49.000They have ranches and some of the guys, you know, they're not even all that close to the border and they're finding multiple dead bodies of people that have gotten through and, you know, 30, 40, 50 miles north, you know, on their ranches, just, you know, unbeknownst to them.
00:16:03.000I imagine, you know, 1700s, nothing compared to what the real number is of the people actually, you know, if, you know, that's what they found, but it's got to be much worse, especially if you take into account what's going on south of the border.
00:16:15.000Yeah, you look at the Darien Gap in Panama, thousands have died in Darien Gap.
00:16:19.000And look, I say it all the time, what I like to foot stop when they say, well, the Trump administration, you know, Homan, you got your crew, you're racist, and your policy is inhumane.
00:16:28.000I like to point out to him, look, under President Trump, we had illegal immigration down 83% to 90%, depending on what time frame you looked at.
00:16:35.000Doctors on Borders, a nonpartisan group, did a study.
00:16:38.000They talked to thousands of women who made the journey to the United States through the use of cartels.
00:16:42.000And 31% of them admitted to being raped by the members of cartels sexually assaulted.
00:16:46.000So I like to tell people they want to say how inhumane the Trump administration was that says, if we're down 83 to 90% down, decrease in illegal immigration, which means 83 to 90% less people are coming.
00:17:21.000And under the last administration, we had the most secure border in my lifetime, which saved thousands of lives.
00:17:27.000And this administration turned it off.
00:17:28.000And now we got record number of Americans dying.
00:17:31.000A record number of migrants dying because of the inaction of this administration.
00:17:35.000Yeah, and again, you know, that doesn't even take into account sort of the, you know, the rape statistics are, you know, what I'm seeing, just, I mean, a huge percentage of the young women and girls, you know, across the border have been raped multiple times.
00:17:48.000You know, you're not allowed to say that, right?
00:17:50.000Because that's terrible, right? Trump, you know, he was a terrible human being for saying, you know, there's rapists coming across the border, but the sex trafficking thing is very real.
00:17:56.000It's frankly much more rampant than we would have ever known when he announced, you know, back in June of 2015, But it is real, and that happens to these young kids.
00:18:06.000I mean, what does that do to them for the rest of their lives?
00:18:08.000I mean, the toll goes far beyond just death, but just the emotional and traumatic damage that happens to so many of these women, kids, and girls, it's got to be immeasurable.
00:18:22.000And that's why everybody, you know, they ask me, why do you get so emotional when you testify?
00:18:28.000Why do you get emotional on the Fox network?
00:18:31.000Because if they've seen what I've seen in 34 years, they'd be pissed off too.
00:18:35.000Look, I've talked to little girls as young as nine years old.
00:18:38.000That were raped multiple times by these animals in the cartels.
00:18:43.000And when you sit down, look into a little girl's eyes, nine years old, and see that everything innocent has been stolen from her, and her life will never be the same, and she's broken.
00:18:54.000Then you understand why I'm emotional about this, because this stuff happens every day.
00:18:58.000While you and me are talking right now, Women are being sexually assaulted by members of the cartels.
00:19:03.000While you and I are talking right now, a child's gonna die making this journey.
00:19:07.000So that's why it's so important we secure the border.
00:19:10.000And look, and I've been saying, a lot of these families do see children that come in.
00:19:14.000Over 400,000 children have entered the United States under the Joe Biden administration.
00:19:18.000The government's lost a track of like 100,000 of them.
00:19:21.000It was 85,000, now we're closer to 100,000.
00:19:24.000100,000 kids that they released to so-called vetting sponsors that now they can't find.
00:19:29.000And I guarantee you, I said evictions of trafficking, some are going to be in pornographic movies, some are living with pedophiles, some are in forced labor.
00:19:37.000As a matter of fact, as you've seen over the last six months, there's been several investigations where they find children working in For one example, a meatpacking plant cleaning up entrails on a midnight ship.
00:19:50.000Children. So they have been trafficking into the United States because this administration has sent a clear message.
00:19:55.000If you cross the border illegally, we're not going to detain you.
00:19:58.000We're not going to remove you. We're going to fly you to the city of your choice and deliver you to the very people that paid to smuggle you in the country.
00:20:05.000Yeah, as the father of, you know, five young kids and, you know, a nine-year-old girl, I... Honestly, I can't even imagine.
00:20:11.000And it's so sick. It's so sick when you see them not...
00:20:14.000They know it's going on, and they don't even care.
00:20:16.000It's just like, I don't know. It's truly despicable.
00:20:23.000It was interesting. It was funny to see sort of John Fetterman was like, the border's ridiculous.
00:20:27.000Even the most radical Democrats are finally starting to get it, and yet...
00:20:31.000You know, the media is not going to talk about it because that would be, you know, that would be damaging to them and their communist cause in an election year.
00:21:05.000Under the Trump administration, we would vet not only the sponsors, we would vet everybody in the household to make sure there wasn't a pedophile living in that household.
00:21:13.000Make sure there wasn't a criminal living in that household.
00:21:15.000It doesn't seem like that's too much to ask, Tom.
00:21:17.000If you put on your hat of logic and reason, That's not racist or misogynist or homophobic or whatever the hell they'll call it because they're insane.
00:21:29.000That seems like a basic level of diligence that you should be doing when it comes to these sorts of things.
00:21:36.000But, you know, they've just thrown that all by the wayside.
00:21:39.000Not only that, they stopped the high-level DNA test and make sure that kid, that child, is actually with a parent, as that parent claims that it's a child.
00:21:47.000And we know, when I was the director of ICE, we had numerous investigations where the cartels were renting children to single men so they can claim to be a family unit because they knew family units would have to be released because of the Ninth Circuit decision to go and hold families for 20 days.
00:22:01.000But look, this is terrible what this administration is doing.
00:22:04.000And like I said, not only Becerra, But Secretary Mayorkas, their instructions to border patrol agents is process as quick as you can, release as quick as you can, because if there's no overcrowding, nothing to see here.
00:22:17.000We can keep saying the border is secure.
00:22:19.000When they had the 15,000 Haitians under that bridge and Fox drone caught that, that was a bad day for the administration.
00:22:25.000So the only thing this administration has done on our southwest border is send more resources to the border to process quicker and release quicker.
00:22:32.000They haven't done a damn thing to slow the flow.
00:22:34.000Not one thing. So I keep seeing videos of massive groups of Chinese immigrants on the border as well.
00:22:42.000I mean, this seems completely new, but what's going on there?
00:22:46.000Is the whole world just taking advantage of the Biden open border policies?
00:22:53.000This isn't someone from Mexico that's coming in and looking to maybe be able to get a better job.
00:22:57.000I mean, they're coming in from... A long way off, and it seems like maybe it's the third world nations.
00:23:04.000It's like, hey, this is a dumping ground.
00:23:05.000How do we know they're not just opening up their prisons or their mental institutions and saying, here, go to America.
00:23:10.000You're going to cause more damage there.
00:23:12.000We don't actually have to ever fire off a missile because we're just going to corrupt the country so badly with people having to deal with this stuff.
00:23:59.000How many of them came from the country sponsoring terror?
00:24:01.000If you think it's zero, then you're ignoring all probability.
00:24:04.000It's just ridiculous. Because after 9-11, we created all these databases.
00:24:09.000TSA no-fly list, FBI screening database, the visa security program to make sure people couldn't get a visa or come to this country on a plane ticket and do what they did in 9-11.
00:24:18.000And those processes work pretty damn good.
00:24:21.000But what terrorists today is going to put himself in a position to buy a plane ticket or ask for a visa when he knows he's going to go through a vetting process...
00:24:28.000When you simply get to Mexico, pay the cartels extra to be a gotaway.
00:24:33.000You got to ask yourself, why did 1.8 million people choose to pay more to get away?
00:24:37.000Why did they pay less, turn themselves in, get released the same day, get a plane ticket to the city of their choice, get work authorization for the next five, seven years while they fight their case, and even if they lose their case, which 9 out of 10 will, ICE isn't looking for them because Secretary Mayorka said...
00:24:53.000Being in the country illegally on its own isn't enough for us to make an arrest.
00:24:56.000Why did 1.8 million people decide, no, I don't want that giveaway program.
00:25:05.000This just scared the hell out of every American.
00:25:07.000It does me. Yeah, I mean, yeah, this is not, you know, I know they've caught, you know, 275, whatever it is, people literally on terror watch list, but if you're going out of your way, you understand, it's not like everyone doesn't know, right?
00:25:20.000You know, everyone's got a cell phone, everyone's coming across the border, this isn't exactly what they're trying to pretend it is, right?
00:25:25.000So everyone knows if 1.8 million of those people are going beyond what they know it would take to get into our country, what if it's just 10% of that?
00:25:55.000I mean, you could fundamentally change the entire landscape of our country and the way we live in terms of just being in total fear all the time.
00:26:04.000If it was just 1.1% of the 1.8 million who are going above and beyond paying more to make sure that there's no chance that they get vetted, even though they know that if they got vetted, they'd be released in the country if they didn't have anything flagrantly sticking out on their, you know, on their rap sheet, so to speak. And how bad is it?
00:27:07.000And why is the northern border seen so many?
00:27:09.000Because 50% of the northern border agents have been detailed to the southern border
00:27:13.000to deal with that mess, and the 50% left on the northern border,
00:27:17.000which are very few of them, they're sitting at their desks,
00:27:20.000virtually processing arrests from Texas because they're so overwhelmed.
00:27:23.000So there's virtually no patrol on the northern border.
00:27:25.000So the northern border is very vulnerable.
00:27:27.000More vulnerable than the southern border, I'd argue.
00:27:29.000And this is all because the border patrol is overwhelmed.
00:27:33.000They don't have time to sit down and do an investigative interview.
00:27:36.000They're processed as quick as possible.
00:27:38.000They're not verifying the documents they're seeing.
00:27:40.000They're not asking the important questions they should be asking, which they normally would ask, like they did under the Trump administration.
00:27:47.000This rush, this constant rush to release people is causing the national security crisis.
00:27:52.000I have talked to Border Patrol agent whistleblowers who told me They've released people before they even got the FBI screening back, only to find out when they got the FBI screening back a day later, that person was hot.
00:28:07.000And in one instance, luckily ICE was able to find that person and take them back in custody.
00:28:12.000But how many have been released that we don't know about or have been released that this administration is not admitting?
00:28:17.000Every time Mayorkas testifies, they ask him these questions.
00:28:20.000He never answers it. Again, a man that should have been impeached two years ago.
00:28:24.000I don't know what's going on with a lot of Republicans on the Hill, but that man needs to be impeached for what he's done to this country.
00:28:30.000Not only the massive American deaths, the massive migrant deaths, the national security.
00:28:35.000He's the Secretary of Homeland Security.
00:28:36.000He has the same data points you and me are talking about.
00:28:39.000He knows what's happening on the southern border.
00:28:43.000He should be telling the White House, stop, or I'm going to resign in protest.
00:28:48.000A better man, a man with any integrity at all would do it, but this man isn't doing it, and this president's not doing it, and it sickens me.
00:28:55.000Why are there Republicans that will defend him or not go towards impeachment with him?
00:29:00.000Is it that they know that whoever the other stooges will put in will just do whatever the Biden policies are?
00:29:32.000They impeached President Trump from making a phone call.
00:29:34.000And they can't impeach Mayorkas or Biden for what they've done to our Southern border, this huge national security crisis we have, especially since the FBI director don't really respect them, but even he admitted under oath.
00:29:48.000The terror threats are now at all-time high.
00:29:51.000He testified that, I think it was last week.
00:29:54.000So with his testimony, and what just happened in Israel, if that's not enough to wake up every Republican on a hill to stick together and impeach this man, I don't know what it is.
00:30:16.000And even the people that are vetted, people need to understand, even the ones we vet, the vetting's only as good as the information we have access to.
00:30:23.000Do you think when we vet someone from China, you think China's going to share any drive-throw information?
00:30:30.000We're more than happy to have that guy be a criminal enterprise, a criminal mastermind, and drain your resources and kill your kids with phenol.
00:30:38.000I mean, it feels like that's a war they're actually playing.
00:30:40.000And that... Honestly, at this point, that's not even conspiratorial.
00:30:45.000That's clear. There's been like 30,000 Chinese nationals of military age have crossed this border under this administration.
00:32:00.000President Trump is taking a lot of hate because we're going to have a historic deportation operation when he's back in business.
00:32:06.000Well, what do you expect on the heels of an historic illegal immigration surge on the border where 9 out of 10 are going to be ordered by federal judges that they must leave the country The law requires a deportation operation.
00:32:21.000We gave a due process that great taxpayers spent, billions of dollars spent on this whole process.
00:32:25.000When a federal judge says you must leave, we must make sure that order is carried out because there's no consequence, no deterrence.
00:32:33.000And if judges' orders don't mean anything, then shut down immigration court too.
00:32:38.000Take the Border Patrol off the border because there's no law here.
00:32:40.000There's no consequence of breaking the laws.
00:32:42.000So there is going to be a historic deportation operation.
00:32:45.000There has to be, because we're on the heels of a historic, never seen before, illegal alien crisis where most of them, vast majority of them, will be ordered removed, and we're going to make sure they're removed.
00:32:56.000So you talked a little bit about, you know, the northern border and the crisis there.
00:32:59.000Obviously, that border is probably, you know, double the length of our southern border.
00:33:04.000And you're saying they've removed so many of the people there to go deal with the southern border.
00:33:08.000But you talk more about the potential for problems with there, especially, I guess, from the bad actors, right?
00:33:13.000Someone's not going from Honduras to there to come in from the northern border because it's a little less guarded because they have no problem getting in the southern border and they just turn themselves in.
00:33:21.000But, you know, what do you see going on at the northern border?
00:33:24.000Are there stories? You know, is there sort of a disproportionate amount of the people that are getting caught that are either on a watch list or from, you know, more nefarious countries, you know, coming across there?
00:34:18.000And look, in upstate New York, for once, there's a sector up there, their crossings are up over 800%.
00:34:25.000Elyse Stefanik is raising hell about it, because that's her area.
00:34:29.000And again, the administration doesn't pay attention.
00:34:31.000So what do they do when the number's up 800%?
00:34:34.000They send half the resources to the southern border.
00:34:36.000Then the half left there are sitting on a computer all day processing arrests from the southern border.
00:34:42.000If we ended catch and release, if we put the Remain of Mexico program back in that the highest courts in the line says are illegal, we will solve 80% of this problem, then the agents can get back on the line, do the national security duty.
00:34:55.000They took an oath, let them uphold that oath, let them enforce the law, let them protect the national security of this country.
00:35:01.000But this administration, again, is not doing a damn thing to slow the flow.
00:36:19.000It's almost universal sort of appreciation, which is awesome.
00:36:23.000But what's going on with Border Patrol in terms of morale?
00:36:29.000What's going on there in terms of recruitment?
00:36:32.000I can't imagine that the people that were willing to do this job, and back when it was still a rough job a couple years ago, are going to sign up to go change diapers and process paperwork.
00:36:44.000Seems like some really tough circumstances going on there right now.
00:36:47.000Sort of a vicious cycle to exacerbate the problem.
00:36:55.000The last three days, I've been down here with Jason Jones and the troopers, and the best part of this three days was we actually landed on an event yesterday where the Border Patrol was actually chasing the group, and they were tracking them, and we landed to help them.
00:37:11.000It's been 30 years since I tracked somebody, but I didn't forget, so I got out there and started helping, and It was a great moment.
00:37:21.000Three Borbidge ladies walked up to me, and I won't tell you the names, because I'll probably get fired.
00:37:24.000They walked up, and they recognized me.
00:37:25.000I said, hey, Iceman. They walked up to me, and they all shook my hand.
00:37:30.000And what I said to the troopers when I got back in the helicopter, I said, you know what?
00:37:34.000their morale is in the toilet, but this administration hasn't broken their spirit
00:37:38.000because they're waiting for January 2025 to go do their job.
00:37:42.000So, you know, matter of fact, two of the agents asked me if I stopped by the Borbital
00:37:46.000station on the way back to El Paso because my flight to DC tomorrow and I promised them I
00:37:50.000would. So the men and women of Borbital, even though the morale is in the tank, their hope is that
00:37:56.000in January 2025, they're going to get to do their job because these men and women go home every day
00:38:02.000feeling like they're not enforcing law and they're more like tourist agents.
00:38:06.000They're catching, in my day, when I was a tourist agent, you arrest them, you process them, and they're back in Mexico in 30 minutes.
00:38:12.000Now, they're processing people from all over the world, like a travel agent, then transporting to an airport to go to their final destination.
00:38:21.000When it comes to children, they're being delivered to the same people who paid their smuggling.
00:38:25.000And they just feel like we're not enforcing the law.
00:38:32.000They're there to secure the border, not create an efficient border.
00:38:36.000I mean, the last chief that just retired, Ortiz, I was at an event where he was bragging that he wants to make our border patrol stations like a Chick-fil-A. He wants them processed quickly and more efficient and released.
00:38:49.000That's not what these men and women who took an oath to defend this nation who strap a
00:38:53.000gunder to hip every day, who wear a Kevlar vest for their own safety.
00:39:14.000Well, I know my father's vowing to carry out the largest deportation operation in history.
00:39:20.000You know, what are the logistics and the operations entailed in accomplishing that?
00:39:28.000I mean, you know, these same guys, are they willing to do that?
00:39:32.000Does it require a different, you know, kind of recruitment?
00:39:35.000Because now you're, you know, they've been shipped all over the country.
00:39:37.000And again, you got to focus on the nefarious actors first.
00:39:41.000And it's, you know, 1.8 million people.
00:39:43.000That's No small feat, and it's not like they're going to be showing back up at the court dates, and some of the court dates are so far out, we'll both be old men by the time they'd ever even have to show up at court, and you know they're not showing up anyway.
00:39:54.000How does that operation look and work logistically?
00:39:59.000There is not a Border Patrol agent or an ICE agent or any DHS officer.
00:40:06.000Even DPS officers are willing to cross-designate us.
00:40:10.000We'll help. Because they realize we got millions of people released in this country who are going to be ordered removed.
00:40:15.000We need to remove them. Because if we don't show a consequence, if we don't uphold the law, they're going to keep coming.
00:40:21.000So under the Trump administration, the numbers dropped drastically because of the Remain and Mexico program, the Thirdly Safe Country Agreement.
00:40:29.000They actually saw airplanes taking people home.
00:40:32.000So instead of selling everything you own, sell your little ranchito and spend all your money to pay the cartels, when they started seeing plane loads coming home, They're saying, okay, maybe I don't want to do this.
00:40:42.000So, you know, we've got to have a consequence for it.
00:40:45.000I'm glad you asked that question, because New York Times did a story, and they interviewed me, they interviewed Stephen Miller.
00:40:50.000And, of course, I told them how an operation would go like that.
00:40:52.000Of course, none of it made it to the story.
00:40:54.000You know, you've got all these groups out there, oh, Trump's going to build concentration camps, he's going to raid neighborhoods, he's going to sweep the nation.
00:41:02.000First of all, they'll be detained in an ICE facility that has the highest detention standards in the industry.
00:41:07.000ICE detention standards are higher than any federal, state, or local facility in this nation.
00:41:12.000If anybody went to ICE.gov and looked at ICE detention standards, what are the standards of detaining people, what our facilities look like, many of them would be angry how much money is spent, billions.
00:41:22.000On care of those who are under custody.
00:41:25.000Matter of fact, when I was vice director, I've had sheriffs come to me and ended the contract.
00:41:29.000We would rent beds from sheriffs when we were over full.
00:41:33.000And the sheriff says, I don't want the contract.
00:41:35.000I don't want your millions of dollars because your standards are too high.
00:41:38.000I don't give these standards to U.S. citizens why I want standards for those who are in the country illegally.
00:41:46.000We're not going through neighborhoods looking for people who look different from us.
00:41:49.000There's a targeted enforcement operation.
00:41:51.000First of all, under the Trump administration, we did prioritize 91% of everybody we arrested.
00:41:57.000It was either a convicted criminal or pending criminal charges, which means we found them in jail, which probably means we're not a choir boy.
00:43:15.000If you're looking at the Democrat Party, if you're looking at the weaponized DOJ and FBI, if you look at the silencing of their political enemies and the jailing of their political dissidents that they don't like, it's a very disparate treatment than what they do to, let's call it, the rioters of the summer of love.
00:43:33.000But interestingly, even New York City Mayor Eric Adams is now coming to terms with some of this disaster.
00:43:41.000He's saying, Everyone's a sanctuary city when they don't actually have to deal with the problems.
00:43:47.000But do you think that any of these so-called sanctuary cities, do you think they're going to change course when they understand what it's doing to their budgets, to their already stressed infrastructure, to their schools, to their hospital systems, to their budgets?
00:44:04.000Or do you think it's like, well, they'll complain a little bit, but they're going to maintain course because they have to?
00:44:10.000They'll do the same thing this administration is doing.
00:44:12.000They'll just charge the taxpayers more to do it.
00:44:15.000I don't think their mentality is going to change at all.
00:44:17.000I mean, sanctuary cities are sanctuaries for criminals.
00:44:20.000Sanctuary cities, in my opinion, is like with New York City.
00:44:24.000When I was director, we had a dozen agents at Rikers Island.
00:44:27.000We removed hundreds of people a week from there that were convicted of criminal offense in New York City.
00:44:52.000They can blame Governor Abbott for sending all these aliens to New York City, but they're going to New York City anyways.
00:44:58.000That's why New York City ranks number three in the illegal alien population, because it's a sanctuary city.
00:45:04.000They can get a job, they can get a driver's license, they can even get arrested for a crime.
00:45:09.000And no one's going to call ICE. They shield them.
00:45:11.000So who wouldn't go to Sanctuary City knowing all the freebies you get there and that you have zero risk of getting arrested because local PD is not allowed to work with ICE. It feels like Americans are truly, based on that standard, Americans are truly a second-class citizen in their own country.
00:45:28.000I think it was Biden once said that We're good to go.
00:45:55.000And what people need to understand, there's no prerequisite in the immigration law that says you've got to commit yet another crime to be arrested.
00:46:02.000Entering this country illegally is a crime.
00:46:06.000I had to educate AOC one time at a hearing.
00:46:09.000It's a crime to enter this country illegally.
00:46:11.000And the INA, the Immigration Nationality Act, says nothing that you've got to go commit another crime.
00:46:16.000This administration says, I shouldn't be looking for them unless they're convicted of a serious, aggravated felony, which is the most serious of crimes.
00:46:23.000Well, when that happens, it's too late.
00:46:26.000He's already committed a serious crime against the citizens of this country.
00:46:30.000There's nothing prerequisite that says you've got to be convicted of the crime.
00:46:34.000But common sense dictates, operational guidance dictates that you look for the worst words first and you look for the national security threats.
00:46:42.000And we did that in the Trump administration.
00:46:43.000But we didn't take a whole population off the table.
00:46:46.000I'll tell you something. When Secretary Marcus put out the new ICE priorities, I looked at it, and I looked at, under the Trump administration, what crimes will make somebody removable.
00:46:58.000The criminals will be arrested on the Trump administration.
00:47:00.000About 80% of them cannot be arrested under this administration.
00:47:04.000If you're arrested for domestic violence, you're not a priority.
00:47:09.000I mean, domestic violence, you're, you know...
00:47:12.000I know we live in an age of equality and all that nonsense that we gotta believe, but I imagine that's committed by a man beating up a woman in the vast majority of instances, right?
00:47:22.000Maybe it happens the other way, but we're gonna go out of our way to protect that guy?
00:47:36.000They can do it again. The recidivism rate on that must be rather huge, because I imagine if you're doing that, it's probably a part of you, and not a good one.
00:47:46.000That's lunacy. And that's why I get so upset when they say this administration is so humane and we care about these people.
00:47:55.000There's a victim. In every domestic violence, there's a victim.
00:48:18.000Because a certain percentage of criminals are going to be those that are in the country illegally.
00:48:22.000If you would work with ICE, if you stop being a sanctuary city, not only would we remove them from the community, we're removed from the country, which will have an impact on crime.
00:48:32.000Again, I'm not saying that every illegal alien is out there committing crimes, but a percentage of them are.
00:48:37.000That's right. If you look at the foreign-born population in the prisons, in the federal system, there's a lot of them.
00:48:41.000But again, not everyone's a criminal and committed a crime against you as a citizen here.
00:48:47.000There's a certain percentage that does.
00:49:13.000It pisses me off when I hear that, because the men and women of ICE and the Border Patrol, they're patriots.
00:49:18.000They strap a gun under the hip every day, put their own lives at risk to go and force the law and keep this nation safe.
00:49:24.000The Border Patrol agents, they go home every day after what the tragedy they see on the border.
00:49:28.000They had 22 suicides in the last two years.
00:49:33.000Highest number of suicides, percentage-wise, at any federal, state, or local law enforcement in the nation.
00:49:41.000What's their sole reason for these suicides?
00:49:43.000But whatever internal struggles they were having, giving CPR to a six-month-old baby, talking to young girls who've been raped multiple times, seeing how the cartels treat these people, It's got to weigh on them.
00:49:57.000And they're taking us home with them every day.
00:50:00.000Border Patrol agents take sicknesses home every day.
00:50:02.000You know, a lot of these aliens coming across are sick.
00:50:05.000The Border Patrol agents take that sickness home to their own family.
00:50:08.000I mean, they still have to take regular TB scratch tests to see if they got TB. I mean, and the only humanity The only humanity on this border is men and women wearing green.
00:50:18.000I've seen these agents bring toys from their own children at their homes to bring them to the children in the centers to give them something to play with.
00:50:26.000The only humanity on that border is men and women wearing green.
00:50:30.000This administration, there's nothing about their policies that make this whole process humane at all.
00:50:35.000It's the most inhumane policy to open that border up because the most vulnerable people in the world I'm going to sell everything they have to put themselves in the hands of a criminal cartel to come to this country.
00:50:47.000Many will be attacked. Some will be killed if they can't afford their fees.
00:50:51.000And it's just terrible what this administration has done.
00:50:53.000When you tell the whole world, you're going to enter the country illegally, we're not going to detain you, we're going to release you, we're going to get you to the city of your choice, you can get work authorization.
00:51:04.000And that's why we have so many migrants dying, because they took the hopes of being released in this country and have no consequence, and that's why it held devastation.
00:51:12.000Again, over 1,700 migrants have died on U.S. soil alone.
00:51:16.000Not talking about what happens in Mexico, Central America, or the Daring Gap in Panama.
00:51:20.000Thousands. So we agree that Alejandro Mayorkas, we agree that he should be impeached, but does DHS need to also be overhauled?
00:51:28.000I mean, we're not talking about the door kickers and the agents.
00:51:32.000We get that, right? They're great patriots, but has this system been corrupted beyond just the leadership at the top?
00:51:41.000Are there structural issues that need to be addressed that have been, you know, sort of gone to rot under Biden?
00:51:47.000Well, man, there's a lot of structure issues that have to be fixed.
00:51:49.000For instance, at ICE, you've got a political appointee who's deciding where ICE should get contracted facilities and not shutting down facilities.
00:51:58.000I mean, they're trying to shut down the Atalanto processing facility in California, a 1,200-bed facility.
00:52:06.000They want to shut it down in the middle of a historic crisis on the border.
00:52:09.000They want to lose beds. So yeah, you know, given the political appointee, that type of power, the one at ICE, makes all the decisions on operations, all the decisions on detention practices and where they get detention contracts, what ones to end, what ones they don't.
00:52:24.000Instead of someone who spent 20, 30 years doing this job and knows it very well, you get a political appointee that comes in with some ideology of open borders that want to destroy the enforcement program of this agency.
00:52:36.000So yeah, there needs to be overhauled some policies and absolutely on some high-level staff who don't believe in the mission of ICE. The person I'm talking about ICE actually was supporting to abolish ICE. And now she's making all the decisions on ICE. It's ridiculous.
00:52:54.000This is one I want you to actually clear up for our viewership.
00:52:58.000Recently, Ron DeSantis was out there dishonestly attacking my father, and he said that the wall wasn't built.
00:53:06.000Can you talk about the immigration enforcement, the border security, what was built?
00:53:13.000And the successes of the first administration.
00:53:15.000So people understand exactly what that was, as well as, you know, perhaps, you know, some of the roadblocks put up, not just by the Democrats and the media, but by, you know, other Republicans themselves.
00:53:26.000First of all, there's 465 miles of water belt.
00:53:41.000But still... I was able to do 465 miles of wall.
00:53:45.000So for people like Ron DeSantis, I mean, Chris Christie, I heard him say one time that only 50 miles of wall built or something.
00:53:52.000Where the hell are you getting those numbers from?
00:53:54.000I was there. 465 miles of wall, and they say, well, someone should replace the wall.
00:53:58.000Of course it was, because what President Trump did, he didn't say where the wall was.
00:54:03.000He went to the experts on the board patrol, where you need the wall first.
00:54:06.000And based on the entry numbers, Where the surges were coming, the Border Patrol said, well, we got some dilapidated fencing here, can replace this first, because that's where the bodies are coming through.
00:54:15.000And the president goes, yes, they had a plan, an operational plan of where the wall is being built.
00:54:20.000So he built it exactly where the Border Patrol wanted it.
00:54:22.000If they wanted some replacement of fencing, of course they did it.
00:54:26.000He did it where the Border Patrol saw the surges coming.
00:54:28.000So he wasn't a dictator on that issue.
00:54:32.000Right. He listened to the experts on the border.
00:54:34.000Where do you need the wall? Even what type of wall you wanted.
00:54:38.000The Border Patrol brought in like a dozen different prototypes.
00:54:42.000The President didn't decide what wall was.
00:54:44.000He listened to the experts. Okay, I like a piece of this wall.
00:54:48.000I like this feature and this wall. So they came up with a wall system that the Border Patrol and their special operators couldn't defeat.
00:54:55.000And what the census needs to understand, and look, great governor of Florida, I guess, I don't know, but You cannot attack President Trump on border security when what he did was unprecedented.
00:55:07.000I worked for six presidents starting with Ronald Reagan.
00:55:10.000Every president I worked for, even Clinton Obama, you know, took some steps.
00:55:14.000They realized you can't have national security on border security.
00:55:16.000But no one did more than President Trump, even immigration at a 45-year low.
00:55:57.000They stayed home. And so if you're really escaping fear of persecution and death from your home government, you're going to go.
00:56:03.000But they stopped coming, which tells you it wasn't about...
00:56:06.000Asylum is about coming to the United States.
00:56:09.000But look, the Remain of Mexico program, a game-changer.
00:56:12.000Trump's plan. The Third Safe Country Agreement, the Migrant Protection Protocol, and the agreements we had with Guatemala, Honduras, and El Salvador.
00:56:20.000Game-changers. Ordering Mexico to put military on the southern-northern border.
00:56:27.000A game-changer. Now, I see a lot of talking heads now saying, well, apparently the wall doesn't work if we have historic illegal immigration.
00:56:35.000Look where 95% of the crossings occur right now.
00:56:38.000Well, there's not a wall. Now, if you want to say you're humane, what's one of the things the walls do?
00:56:45.000The most vulnerable, the women and children, the family groups, they can't get over that wall.
00:56:49.000So what do they do? They go to a place where there isn't a wall.
00:56:52.000And that's where the Border Patrol will meet them and take care of any humanitarian needs or health issues.
00:56:56.000Now, they have cut the fence in a few places.
00:58:11.000Eagle Pass. There was several days, there wasn't a single green uniform in the entire sector on the border.
00:58:18.000They pulled every agent in the process.
00:58:21.000The criminal cartels had a field day with that.
00:58:25.000They can question what we did on the Trump administration, but if you look at the data, if you look at the evidence, You cannot argue that President Trump, what he did was unprecedented on securing our border.
00:58:37.000The highest level I've seen in my lifetime, and I've done this job.
00:58:42.000The border was never more secure than it was on a Trump administration.
00:58:46.000So obviously we bring all that stuff back in a second Trump administration, but are you ready to settle back up?
00:58:53.000I already promised President Trump, he comes back, I come back, and I'll help run that biggest deportation operation in the nation.
00:58:58.000You know, Washington posted a story on me five years ago, and the first line of the story was, Tom Homan deports people and he's really good at it.
00:59:05.000Of course, it was a hit piece, but I framed it.
00:59:08.000When those guys are hitting on you, that's a badge of honor.
00:59:23.000And I do wake up every day pissed off because it's just not undoing the most successful border in the history of this nation.
00:59:31.000It's the lives being lost, American lives, fentanyl overdoses, and the migrant life.
00:59:35.000Look, entering the country of legalism is a crime, but it shouldn't be a death sentence.
00:59:39.000So look, record number of migrants are dying, record number of U.S. citizens are dying, and the terrorist thing, it just scares the hell out of me.
00:59:46.000And for someone to do that on purpose, These people aren't idiots.
01:00:00.000I'll say it again, starting with Ronald Reagan.
01:00:01.000Every president I worked for cared about the border and tried to do something because they knew you can't have national security without border security.
01:00:08.000No one did more than President Trump by far.
01:00:10.000Joe Biden's the first president in the history of this nation who came into office and unsecured a border.
01:00:17.000Unsecure the border. Who the hell does that?
01:00:19.000Well, Commander Chief says, I want more illegal immigration.
01:00:24.000I want more inspected terrorists using vulnerable borders as an entry point.
01:00:27.000I want more women, children, sex traffic.
01:00:29.000When you open the border up, the bad stuff comes with it.
01:00:32.000And I tell people all the time, regardless what your opinion is on illegal immigration, when you intentionally cause a crisis this big, all the bad stuff's happened.
01:00:40.000The fentanyl, the sex trafficking, the terrorism.
01:00:43.000ISIS, when you open the border up, that's what you cause.
01:00:46.000Yeah, I'll be back in a heartbeat with President Trump.
01:00:50.000Thanks so much. Really appreciate your continued patriotism, that you stay involved, that you're actually on the ground there seeing what's going on.
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