Triggered - Donald Trump Jr - The Left’s New Religion Takes Aim at Easter, Plus Jack Posobiec and Joshua Lisec on New Book “Unhumans” | TRIGGERED Ep.124

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00:06:12.000 you hey guys welcome to another huge episode

00:06:41.000 of Triggered.

00:06:43.000 I hope everyone had an incredible Easter.

00:06:47.000 Despite some of the blasphemy we've seen from the White House, normal Americans still hopefully have an incredible time today.

00:06:55.000 Celebrating one of the holiest holidays, if not the most holiest holidays of Christianity, and have an amazing time with their families.

00:07:03.000 Now, given everything that's going on, normally I'd make an April Fool's joke today.

00:07:08.000 But honestly at this point guys, what's more of a joke than real life right now?

00:07:14.000 The entire country is just one big punchline.

00:07:19.000 That is sad, but unfortunately that is also true.

00:07:23.000 And on today's show we're going to be talking with Jack Posobiec and his co-author Joshua Lysak.

00:07:28.000 They have a new book that's coming out shortly called Unhumans, The Secret History of Communist Revolutions and How to

00:07:35.000 Crush Them.

00:07:36.000 The and how to crush them part is really critical.

00:07:40.000 As I said, it's coming out this summer. We can pre-order it now.

00:07:43.000 But it's not just a complaint book. It's actually what we can do about it.

00:07:48.000 And if you think that this stuff isn't going on, apparently you weren't paying attention over Easter weekend.

00:07:54.000 This is not just a book going after the radical left.

00:07:58.000 It's really a tool book on what you can do to fight back and to end this madness once and for all.

00:08:06.000 And again guys, it is perfect timing given the news over the weekend

00:08:10.000 that the left's deliberate attempts to denigrate American Christians

00:08:17.000 and to undermine their values and all those values that make this nation so great.

00:08:22.000 There could not be a more critical time for something like this.

00:08:26.000 So this is going to be a must-see interview and you're going to actually learn a lot.

00:08:30.000 But first, we've got to give you a rundown of these insane headlines that I'm talking about.

00:08:36.000 For you, for me, for millions of other Americans and Christians, yesterday was Easter, the holiest of our holidays.

00:08:46.000 But it was a different type of holy day for Joe Biden and the radical Democrats.

00:08:52.000 They didn't really celebrate Easter, that's just a punchline.

00:08:55.000 For them, yesterday was Transgender Visibility Day, folks! 0.68

00:09:01.000 Yeah, it's a big holiday.

00:09:02.000 Really famous. It's been around for decades.

00:09:04.000 Or days. Or weeks.

00:09:06.000 Maybe. Maybe two or three years.

00:09:08.000 Who knows? They make this stuff up as they go.

00:09:12.000 It's not a real holiday, of course.

00:09:14.000 And of course, they didn't drop it on Easter Sunday for any real purpose.

00:09:20.000 Right, folks? They would never do something like that.

00:09:23.000 It's not all part of their attempts to destroy everything decent about our country and what's left of it.

00:09:31.000 The whole thing was touted by Joe Biden, his press secretary, scores of White House officials, and Democrats across the country as this wonderful thing.

00:09:40.000 Democrats think this fake holiday, which is apparently only created in the past few years, is a bigger deal than Easter.

00:09:46.000 Joe Biden's ex-account released a statement yesterday, specifically referencing trans-Americans on Easter.

00:09:56.000 Because they don't get enough attention in the world, folks.

00:09:59.000 Literally the most protected class of Americans in all of society are the trans, right? 0.94

00:10:04.000 You can murder people and have a journal and nothing's ever going to come from it. 0.51

00:10:08.000 Their motives? Always unknown.

00:10:11.000 I wish everyone got that benefit of the doubt.

00:10:14.000 and Democrat governors Gretchen Whitmer and Gavin Newsom released videos commemorating Trans Visibility Day.

00:10:21.000 There were no videos from either of them on Easter, obviously.

00:10:25.000 That would be, I don't know, like, decent, human, normal, all of those things that have totally left the Democrat

00:10:36.000 Party.

00:10:37.000 Democrats celebrating this new woke holiday during Easter is not a coincidence, folks.

00:10:43.000 If you think it's a coincidence, you have not been watching literally everything that they do day in and day out.

00:10:49.000 They are purposely insulting Christians. 0.98

00:10:52.000 As someone pointed out on Twitter, if National Pork Day fell on the same name as Ramadan...

00:10:59.000 Would Joe Biden issue a statement celebrating National Pork Day?

00:11:02.000 Of course he wouldn't.

00:11:04.000 But, on Christians, it's open season. 0.90

00:11:08.000 And we pretty much saw that dynamic this weekend.

00:11:11.000 At St. Patrick's Cathedral, when pro-Hamas demonstrators interrupted Easter service.

00:11:17.000 Uh, you think if, I don't know, maybe the roles were reversed.

00:11:22.000 Say, it was a group of MAGA hat-wearing conservatives that took over a mosque...

00:11:28.000 You think it'd be the same?

00:11:30.000 Guys, there would be indictments for hate crime charges flying like you've never seen before.

00:11:39.000 You know it's true. I know it's true.

00:11:41.000 They know it's true. Everyone knows it's true.

00:11:45.000 That's the world in which we live.

00:11:46.000 Right now. In America.

00:11:49.000 In 2024. And get this, folks.

00:11:51.000 The White House has a Spanish-language Twitter page.

00:11:54.000 On that page, they issued an Easter celebration statement.

00:11:59.000 Huh. But there was nothing on the so-called...

00:12:04.000 Major holiday, Transvisibility Day. 0.99

00:12:06.000 Why is that, huh?

00:12:07.000 I wonder. It's almost as though Democrats know that their anti-Christian message is repellent to Latino voters.

00:12:16.000 It's probably repellent to everyone except for a few lunatics on the radical left, but even more so to religious Latino voters. 0.99

00:12:26.000 They only push it for their deranged, white, liberal, Rachel Maddow viewing base. 1.00

00:12:32.000 Hmm. I'm shocked. 0.96

00:12:34.000 I'm shocked. Now, after this weekend's blasphemy, we may have gotten a sign from God himself.

00:12:43.000 Thunder and lightning delayed the start of the White House's annual Easter egg roll.

00:12:49.000 I don't know, guys.

00:12:50.000 Maybe? Maybe that's what it is.

00:12:53.000 Like, flood it again.

00:12:55.000 Meteor 2025, if Joe Biden magically wins this one again by cheating, obviously.

00:13:00.000 But maybe at that point, we just deserve it.

00:13:05.000 And by the way...

00:13:06.000 The trans, they're perfectly visible, folks.

00:13:09.000 In the Biden White House, they are perhaps more visible than literally any other demographic in America.

00:13:16.000 You can see on the screen, right here, all the LBGTQIA plus, minus, negative, whatever days that are celebrated. 0.84

00:13:27.000 This month, we'll have International Asexuality Day. 0.95

00:13:31.000 I mean, because that's a big one.

00:13:33.000 Don't forget that one, folks.

00:13:34.000 That's basically like Christmas, Easter, Thanksgiving, all wrapped up into one special, radical, insane Democrat holiday.

00:13:42.000 I can't wait.

00:13:43.000 I cannot wait to read Joe Biden's statement on that one.

00:13:49.000 Because you know it's coming, and you know it's going to be a doozy.

00:13:53.000 And Biden's White House reportedly banned religious symbols from Easter celebrations.

00:13:59.000 Remember, folks, this is an attack on Christianity. 0.97

00:14:01.000 They would never do that.

00:14:05.000 My eyes are rolling so far back into the head, they almost did a 360.

00:14:09.000 Remember, folks, Biden's FBI, Biden's DOJ, treated Catholics like terrorists. 0.95

00:14:16.000 If you were a practicing Catholic, you were a domestic terrorist. 0.94

00:14:21.000 If you bought a Bible, you were marked by your banks, and that information was given to said FBI and DOJ. They think church-going patriots are terrorists, but not terrorists.

00:14:34.000 Transgender school shooters. 0.98

00:14:36.000 Those people are to be protected. 0.98

00:14:38.000 There are manifestos to be hidden from view.

00:14:41.000 There are motives unknown, but there was probably a great reason for it, right folks?

00:14:46.000 These people are sick, and they're taking over our country.

00:14:52.000 The mindset is so pervasive in government, in media, in tech, we need to say enough is enough.

00:15:01.000 Speaking of the FBI folks, several videos have recently popped up showing FBI agents visiting people's homes over social media posts.

00:15:09.000 Here's one example.

00:15:11.000 Congratulations, I'm Tom Berry with the FBI.

00:15:13.000 How are you? Is Ms. Anderson here?

00:15:15.000 I'm not. She's not? Okay.

00:15:17.000 I was hoping to see if I could have a couple of minutes of her time.

00:15:19.000 She's not here. Okay.

00:15:21.000 She's at work.

00:15:23.000 Is there a chance I can make an arrangement to come back and talk to her?

00:15:25.000 Or...

00:15:27.000 What's it about?

00:15:29.000 It's about the Baton Rouge subject.

00:15:31.000 So what exactly prompted this visit?

00:15:33.000 prompted this visit.

00:15:35.000 According to the woman, Cam St.

00:15:37.000 Martin, it was her tweet that said, quote, End quote.

00:15:58.000 Wow. I mean, that really seems like it's deservant of an FBI visit.

00:16:03.000 Remember all the grandmothers who took, like, selfie videos somewhere within 1,500 miles of January 6th?

00:16:07.000 They got FBI visits.

00:16:10.000 You know who doesn't get FBI visits?

00:16:13.000 The people who actually end up committing these crimes.

00:16:16.000 Remember? Well, he was a person of interest.

00:16:19.000 We were watching that one, but he checked a couple boxes, so we couldn't actually do anything about it.

00:16:25.000 That has become the norm, folks.

00:16:28.000 In another video, an FBI agent visiting someone's home says he hassles people every day, all day long, over Facebook posts.

00:16:37.000 This is apparently routine.

00:16:40.000 It shouldn't be. But the FBI and their leadership and our DOJ have sent a very clear message who they believe are actual terrorists in America.

00:16:50.000 And I can assure you, they're not actual terrorists.

00:16:53.000 They're just patriots who believe in freedom and liberty.

00:16:57.000 Meanwhile, folks, over in Denver, the liberals have decided that diversity is no longer our greatest strength.

00:17:04.000 That's a shocker, because I was told that diversity is literally everything.

00:17:09.000 It is the greatest thing imaginable.

00:17:10.000 No one has yet been able to articulate for me why that is the case.

00:17:16.000 I imagine that probably holds true for all of you. 0.94

00:17:19.000 And when you ask the question, they sort of look stupidly into the air and have nothing. 0.98

00:17:23.000 But... Apparently, Denver now no longer believes that diversity is their greatest strength. 0.87

00:17:30.000 Denver has been overrun by illegal immigrants. 1.00

00:17:33.000 And Democrat city officials are now telling them to go to Chicago and New York instead.

00:17:40.000 Huh! Who could have seen this coming, folks?

00:17:45.000 I don't know. I don't know.

00:17:47.000 It's almost like if you had a brain or even a model of common sense, you would have noticed.

00:17:53.000 Watch this news report and see for yourself.

00:17:56.000 The city of Denver is offering a stark warning to newly arriving migrants.

00:18:02.000 Stay here and you will suffer.

00:18:05.000 Denver's offering migrants help to move on to anywhere else in the country. 0.98

00:18:09.000 Tonight, for the first time, we're able to see how Denver tries to convince migrants to leave in video obtained by Next from Inside a Migrant Shelter.

00:18:19.000 The opportunities are over.

00:18:23.000 That's Andres Carrera, political director for Denver Mayor Mike Johnston.

00:18:27.000 New York gives you more, Chicago gives you more.

00:18:30.000 So I suggest you go there, where even with a longer term plan,

00:18:36.000 there are more opportunities for work there.

00:18:39.000 Carrera is Denver's so-called newcomer communications liaison.

00:18:43.000 That means that he meets the busloads of new arrivals.

00:18:46.000 The city says this group got here on March 26, sent up by Texas' Republican Governor Greg Abbott.

00:18:52.000 He warns them the jobs, the resources, the opportunities have already gone to the 40,000 migrants who came to Denver before.

00:19:00.000 If Denver is allowed to say that they can't take any more illegals, they are overrun, they cannot accommodate, it is too much of stress on their infrastructure and everything else, Why can't the nation say the exact same thing? 1.00

00:19:16.000 How is that any different? 0.84

00:19:19.000 This is a classical case of liberal hypocrisy.

00:19:23.000 I wrote a book about liberal privilege. 0.95

00:19:25.000 It is rampant, it is insane, and it is getting worse day by day.

00:19:31.000 A blue city, a very blue city, says, we have too many illegals. 1.00

00:19:37.000 And no one bats an eye.

00:19:39.000 Because, of course they do. 0.99

00:19:41.000 This is one of the few cases where these same crazy liberals are actually correct. 0.98

00:19:45.000 But, but, if a Republican in the White House says that we have too many illegals, those same liberals are rioting in the streets. 1.00

00:19:56.000 You're a xenophobe, a racist, a misogynist, a transphobe, you know, it doesn't matter. 0.99

00:20:01.000 Just one of the phobes or ists or who knows. 0.99

00:20:04.000 It doesn't matter. But you're it.

00:20:06.000 Now, they can stay at all they want, and even if they're right, that's fine, but you can't buy this kind of stupidity, folks, but it's happening day in and day out. 0.99

00:20:17.000 By the way, folks, in Boston right now, they are turning veteran housing into illegal immigrant housing. 0.99

00:20:24.000 Yes, you heard me right.

00:20:27.000 That says it all, doesn't it, folks?

00:20:30.000 It tells us everything we need to understand about who the Democrat Party today prioritizes.

00:20:38.000 If you cross the border illegally, like a month ago, Illegally, don't bring anything, have no education, are going to be a drain to the system forever.

00:20:47.000 You're treated better by liberals and Democrats than if you spent literal years serving our incredible nation with blood, sweat, and tears.

00:21:00.000 That's today's Democrat Party policy.

00:21:04.000 Remember that video from the Texas border a couple of weeks ago, folks?

00:21:08.000 When a mob of illegal immigrants charged National Guard soldiers overrun them?

00:21:14.000 Well, a liberal judge in El Paso, Texas, just ordered those illegals released from jail. 0.96

00:21:21.000 No penalty.

00:21:22.000 No nothing. You can attack our servicemen.

00:21:27.000 During an invasion, you will be released.

00:21:32.000 You will probably be given these benefits.

00:21:34.000 They'll take... Other veterans throw them out of their housing that I'd say they earned and deserve, and they will put the illegals in there. 1.00

00:21:44.000 This country is becoming a total joke.

00:21:49.000 I told you last week about Jonathan Diller, the New York City police officer who authorities say was killed by a career criminal in the line of duty.

00:21:58.000 Well, New York Democrat Governor Kenneth E. Hochul showed up to his funeral, but she was 0.97

00:22:04.000 asked to leave.

00:22:05.000 Rightfully so, folks.

00:22:35.000 Rightfully so. Her policies are the ones that are encouraging these things. 0.99

00:22:41.000 These things are happening because Democrats want them to happen, because they will do

00:22:45.000 nothing about them. You can literally hear clapping at the end of that video

00:22:50.000 as she walks away. That's because Kathy Hochul's pro-crime policies put police 1.00

00:22:56.000 officers in danger. This is not an exception in New York.

00:23:01.000 It is the reality across blue states today.

00:23:05.000 These are Soros-funded DAs.

00:23:08.000 These are their policies.

00:23:09.000 These are the soft on crime things that allow this stuff to happen day in and day out.

00:23:17.000 And good Americans like Jonathan Diller are killed in the process.

00:23:22.000 Jonathan Diller's widow, Stephanie, delivered a powerful eulogy during that funeral.

00:23:26.000 She asked, how many more police officers and how many more families need to make the ultimate sacrifice before we start protecting them?

00:23:36.000 Watch this and see for yourself.

00:23:38.000 My husband died a hero, but he also lived as one.

00:23:42.000 Our world will never be the same, but I know I speak for everyone when I say I could not be more proud of him.

00:23:49.000 It's been two years and two months since Detective Rivera and Detective Mora made the ultimate sacrifice, just like my husband, Jonathan Diller.

00:23:58.000 Dominique Rivera stood in front of all the elected officials present today, pleading for change.

00:24:02.000 That change never came, and now my son will grow up without his father, I will grow old without my husband, and his parents have to say goodbye to their child.

00:24:12.000 How many more police officers and how many more families need to make the ultimate sacrifice before we start protecting them?

00:24:19.000 It's a good question, folks.

00:24:20.000 It's a really good question.

00:24:21.000 A question I am shocked that almost no one else, other than perhaps my father, maybe a few conservatives, myself...

00:24:29.000 Are asking, how is this not a question at every dinner table across America at this point?

00:24:36.000 These are no longer anomalies.

00:24:38.000 These are happening day in and day out.

00:24:41.000 It doesn't stop and it's escalating exponentially.

00:24:45.000 As long as left-wing radicals are in office, criminals will be empowered and police will be in danger.

00:24:51.000 It's not that hard.

00:24:52.000 This isn't rocket science.

00:24:54.000 It's common sense.

00:24:56.000 Something that's been missing.

00:24:59.000 Finally, you think you hate the fake news media?

00:25:04.000 Well guys, you do not hate them nearly enough. 1.00

00:25:09.000 They're pathetic. 1.00

00:25:11.000 A new report reveals that they've been stealing from Air Force One for years. 1.00

00:25:17.000 Politico wrote that it's shockingly common and a rite of passage.

00:25:22.000 The story says for years, scores of journalists and others have quietly stuffed everything

00:25:27.000 from engraved whiskey tumblers to wine glasses and pretty much anything else

00:25:31.000 with the Air Force One insignia on it into their bag before stepping off the plane.

00:25:36.000 And the article goes on to say that even gold rim plates and other valuable items have been taken.

00:25:42.000 Like, what the heck, guys?

00:25:44.000 Isn't it an honor enough just to fly on the plane?

00:25:46.000 This isn't an April Fool's joke.

00:25:49.000 This is all, sadly, totally real.

00:25:52.000 It's going on right now in our country, and we need to finally say that enough is enough.

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00:29:58.000 Joining me now, the co-authors of the forthcoming book, Unhumans, Human Events Editor Jack Posobiec and writer Joshua Lysak.

00:30:08.000 Guys, good to have you on the show.

00:30:10.000 I know a lot of guys obviously familiar with Jack, has been on the show numerous times.

00:30:13.000 I do his show, we do our shows, we scream about communists.

00:30:16.000 We both have some experience there.

00:30:18.000 Joshua, good to have you on as well.

00:30:20.000 Look forward to hearing all about it.

00:30:22.000 My pleasure. Thank you. Thanks so much for having us on, Don.

00:30:25.000 It's my pleasure, guys. These are important topics.

00:30:28.000 I know, Jack, you and I, we talk a lot about communism because of the way we grew up.

00:30:33.000 You in Poland, me in what was then communist Czechoslovakia in my summers with my mother.

00:30:38.000 I think we all understand all too well how those systems work because we actually lived in them, unlike...

00:30:44.000 The vast majority of people who advocate for those systems here.

00:30:48.000 But the book's gotten so much buzz.

00:30:50.000 Jack, I want to start by asking you, where did the book start for you?

00:30:55.000 And what was the motivation in actually writing it?

00:30:58.000 I know you've talked about it for a long time, but what makes you put pen to paper and get into the details?

00:31:02.000 Sure. Sure. So this was based on a series of podcasts that I'd put together for Human Events Daily over the Christmas break over the past couple of years.

00:31:10.000 And what we do is usually we take the Christmas break.

00:31:13.000 You know, I'm not trying to do daily shows.

00:31:15.000 There's not a lot of news too much.

00:31:16.000 We want to spend time with the family. So we would do these deep dives into China.

00:31:21.000 And we did that two years ago.

00:31:22.000 And I did an entire series called The China Files, all about the history of the Chinese Communist Party.

00:31:27.000 And then that just went off like gangbusters.

00:31:30.000 And then we did another series this past year called The Chronicles of the Revolution.

00:31:34.000 And we went through the French Revolution in France.

00:31:37.000 We went through Russia. We went through Spain.

00:31:39.000 We went through kind of the 1960s in the United States.

00:31:42.000 And that took off well.

00:31:43.000 And so that's kind of when we started to generate a lot of interest.

00:31:46.000 and people said, hey, there's a lot going on here because what you're talking about that happened

00:31:53.000 hundreds of years ago or decades ago, in some cases, it actually seems like it's happening yet

00:32:00.000 again here in the United States. And so we talked to a bunch of publishers. Eventually,

00:32:06.000 Tony Lyons and the guys over at Skyhorse were the ones that we settled with because they completely

00:32:10.000 agreed that everything that we're seeing today focuses on many of the same playbooks and many

00:32:17.000 of the same tactics that we've seen from these types of groups over the years.

00:32:21.000 Now, they've been honed.

00:32:22.000 Warfare has changed the same way that these revolutions have changed.

00:32:26.000 The systems have changed.

00:32:27.000 The tactics and the specifics have changed.

00:32:30.000 But you look at some of it.

00:32:31.000 So who do they target?

00:32:33.000 They target the people who are successful.

00:32:35.000 They target the people who achieve greatness, a word that you're familiar with.

00:32:39.000 They target the people who actually want to do something for society, and they do so,

00:32:45.000 and they claim it's all about equality.

00:32:47.000 They claim it's about fairness.

00:32:48.000 They claim it's about justice.

00:32:50.000 Equity is the word they use today a lot, but we know what it really is.

00:32:53.000 It's really about envy.

00:32:54.000 It's really about anger.

00:32:56.000 And it's about the fact that they were unsuccessful in life.

00:32:59.000 And so rather than actually try to do something to better their own lot or better the communities, their own neighborhoods, they would rather tear down people who have been successful.

00:33:09.000 And Don, I just got to say it with everything that's going on with your father and your family's business right now.

00:33:14.000 It is exactly textbook classic communist tactics that have been brought into a neo-communist, neo-Bolshevik phase.

00:33:23.000 And what this is, it's state-sponsored theft going after one of the most high-profile real estate developers the same way they've always gone after the landowners and the people who have been successful in every single one of these instances.

00:33:37.000 Yeah, I mean, it definitely repeats itself.

00:33:39.000 You always kind of figure out, like, what's their endgame, right?

00:33:41.000 Their children are going to be worse.

00:33:43.000 When you talk about, you know, worse off, right?

00:33:45.000 You talk about the open borders.

00:33:46.000 You see what's going on there.

00:33:48.000 I'm like, you know, fine.

00:33:50.000 You know, I get it's about power and voting, but, like, when your communities and your homes are going to be raided and terrorized, like, what's the endgame?

00:33:58.000 And maybe Joshua, like, what are the signs?

00:34:01.000 That a communist revolution is happening or will happen, whether it's here in the U.S. or where it's sort of a precursor to what happens around the world.

00:34:11.000 And I guess while these radicals are sort of motivated by communist ideas, they're also backed by major billionaires, people who've done incredibly well with capitalism, people who are certainly not giving any of that up.

00:34:25.000 You know, and that endless amounts of money, which is, again, sort of ironic.

00:34:30.000 Is it just about hoarding that power for themselves once they've attained it?

00:34:33.000 They just want to put up the roadblock and make sure no one else gets there?

00:34:37.000 Yes, there's myriad factors taking place both in the funding of the communist revolution or what we're seeing now in the United States, which is an irregular communist revolution in which these sort of micro-revolts are led against specific individuals in order to neutralize them.

00:34:52.000 They don't necessarily have to murder them in a high-profile way with waving the red flags and there being blood in the streets as in revolutions in the past.

00:35:02.000 Now they're mostly satisfied with neutralizing them.

00:35:06.000 Canceling them, for example, bankrupting them, for example, and in some cases driving their target to suicide.

00:35:13.000 The objective of the neo-communist revolution, the sort of 2.0, is to take out people that they envy.

00:35:19.000 Now, what sort of envy do we mean here?

00:35:23.000 This gets to your other question about how we can tell one is coming.

00:35:27.000 There's a military term called the operational preparation of the environment, one that, of course, Jack is familiar with.

00:35:34.000 And in OPE, this is before an operation is launched.

00:35:39.000 In the case of military, this is before troops go on the ground.

00:35:42.000 This is intelligence gathering.

00:35:44.000 This is figuring out who's who, where's the biggest threats going to be.

00:35:47.000 And it seems that, through our research on this book, that communists do the same thing.

00:35:53.000 And one way they prepare the environment, a.k.a.

00:35:57.000 your society, for revolution, for uprising, is they find out who is going to be on their side.

00:36:04.000 Who envies whom?

00:36:06.000 Now, who whom, ironically, right?

00:36:10.000 Now, we've changed from a...

00:36:12.000 A little trans acknowledgement there to make sure they get the pronouns correct.

00:36:17.000 Yes, the...

00:36:19.000 Old classic Marxism was socioeconomic warfare of the classes, bourgeois versus proletariat.

00:36:25.000 There was the obvious haves and have-nots.

00:36:28.000 There was the peasant, and there was the entrepreneur.

00:36:30.000 There was the laborer, and there was the management of it, right?

00:36:34.000 But in our environment, it's a bit different, because in free market capitalism, any have-not can become a have with relatively little work, frankly, in today's day and age.

00:36:46.000 And so the...

00:36:47.000 But Marxists have to be a bit more cultural.

00:36:51.000 So who are the oppressed groups?

00:36:55.000 Well, critical race theory, critical gender theory, LGBTQIA2 +, MAP, or whatever all of the things are that they like to put out there.

00:37:04.000 That's cultural Marxism.

00:37:06.000 So what the forces of anti-civilization do...

00:37:12.000 Every single time to prepare the environment is they first separate who's going to be with us and who are we going to attack?

00:37:21.000 Who are we going to attempt to neutralize?

00:37:24.000 And so we see how institutions that have endured the long march of cultural Marxists, they have officially sided with And they've allowed the infiltration of the oppressed classes.

00:37:39.000 Now, you don't have to be literally oppressed.

00:37:41.000 If, for example, you can say you're, or you can be, a member of a group, let's say black Americans, African Americans, let's say gay people, for example.

00:37:51.000 If you can point to past oppression having happened to you in the past, then you can become, ironically, a beneficiary of Of that past oppression.

00:38:02.000 Even if you have not experienced any oppression, and in fact you've been a beneficiary of, let's say, affirmative action.

00:38:08.000 Let's say you have had more opportunity given to you than to others.

00:38:14.000 You can still claim membership in this oppressed class.

00:38:18.000 And so this separation, this operational preparation of our environment for an irregular communist revolution has been taking place since at least the 1960s.

00:38:27.000 And we detail this process, of course, in the book.

00:38:31.000 Jack, I know you write about it a lot, but what is the thing about communists that people don't understand?

00:38:37.000 You talk about sort of the one thing that people don't quite get because it's not necessarily intuitive.

00:38:43.000 So the one thing that most people don't get, and we get into this a ton in the book, whether you're a conservative, whether you're a liberal, you know, the good liberal, I'm sure there's some good liberals still out there, whether you're a centrist, you know, centrist, you're one of these middle-of-the-road guys, or even you're just someone who's not into politics, right?

00:39:03.000 You usually assume, most people assume that other folks who are involved in politics get involved with the political process with good intentions.

00:39:11.000 And most people cast their good intentions on their political opponents and say, I've got good intentions.

00:39:18.000 Therefore, the person across the aisle from me must also have good intentions.

00:39:22.000 We just disagree on the measures.

00:39:26.000 We disagree on the policies that we have higher taxes, lower taxes.

00:39:29.000 We have more programs or less programs, that sort of thing.

00:39:32.000 What people get wrong about communists, and this is why we say that communists and today's cultural Marxists have embraced unhumanity, is that they don't have good intentions actually.

00:39:43.000 They aren't interested in making society better.

00:39:46.000 They're actually interested in making society worse.

00:39:50.000 They want society to be destroyed.

00:39:52.000 They want society to be brought down low.

00:39:54.000 And people will ask the question all the time, they say, How can people still support communism if communism has killed 100 million people around the world?

00:40:01.000 And I always point out you're asking the wrong question.

00:40:03.000 They would say from their perspective that 100 million people died is just a good start.

00:40:09.000 That's just a good start to the body piles and to the body count.

00:40:12.000 And their goal is to increase it because they will say those people were against the revolution.

00:40:17.000 Those people were – and you can think of the names.

00:40:19.000 They were racist. They were patriarchy. 0.99

00:40:20.000 They were white supremacists. We heard this. 0.94

00:40:22.000 They were fascists.

00:40:24.000 All of the exact same things.

00:40:26.000 Even in the Chinese Cultural Revolution, which apparently this new Netflix show actually depicts for the first time they snuck it in there.

00:40:32.000 One of the main things, and you see these videos of people with the card around their neck, the placard around their neck, and they're in these great stadiums surrounded by the chanting red guards holding up Mao's little red book.

00:40:46.000 And because I spent time in China, because I speak Mandarin, if you read the placard under their names, that's their crime. 1.00

00:40:54.000 So that's the crime they've been charged with.

00:40:55.000 And there's no court. You're looking at the court, right?

00:40:58.000 It's not too far off from the Manhattan courts today, by the way.

00:41:01.000 Yeah, exactly. And we also get into in the book the French Revolutionary Courts, which guillotine was basically this or this, for the revolution, against the revolution.

00:41:11.000 One of the charges, one of the most common charges these guys would get, and all the time, it was always priests, it was landowners, small business owners.

00:41:19.000 One of the crimes they would get was being labeled as a quote-unquote right-wing extremist.

00:41:26.000 This is exact communist nomenclature from the Chinese Communist Party, from the Cultural Revolution, which was a revolution in a revolution.

00:41:35.000 You have to get the book. I can explain all that later.

00:41:39.000 The phrase right-wing extremist has been used by communists to go after and mislabel normal people, successful people, people who in many cases aren't even interested in politics and going after them.

00:41:51.000 And I think, I hope, I just hope, that if we can get people, and particularly conservatives, to understand That these guys, they don't care about double standards. 0.77

00:42:02.000 They don't care about, oh, we've called them out for their hypocrisy.

00:42:05.000 Oh, they're not giving us equal treatment. 0.86

00:42:07.000 They don't want to give you equal treatment.

00:42:09.000 They want you locked up.

00:42:11.000 They want you in jail for 700 years like they're trying to do to your father.

00:42:14.000 They want your businesses destroyed, and they want you penniless.

00:42:18.000 This is their goal, period, full stop, end of story.

00:42:21.000 Yeah, I keep trying to make that point on the show whenever I'm elsewhere. 0.76

00:42:25.000 We're like, oh, the hypocrisy!

00:42:27.000 I'm like, they don't care! 0.83

00:42:30.000 There's Columbia law professors that think the New York stuff is insane, and they're radical liberals.

00:42:35.000 I'm like, they don't care.

00:42:36.000 They may say it, they understand it's a break to the system, but they're more than happy.

00:42:40.000 The means justify the ends.

00:42:42.000 If they get what they want in the end, all of...

00:42:45.000 When we talk about... They scream about democracy, and they scream about fascism, while...

00:42:50.000 Trampling on democracy and acting like fascists.

00:42:53.000 They don't even appreciate the irony, but they have such large megaphones, whether it's big tech, whether it's the mainstream media, they have such a censorship apparatus that it doesn't matter.

00:43:05.000 And the only thing I can say that I feel good about what's going on right now is it's so extreme.

00:43:10.000 The pendulum has overcorrected so much that regular people are like, wait a minute, I'm supposed to believe my lying eyes.

00:43:21.000 Right. And maybe Joshua can take this one, but my contention and I should say our contention in Unhumans and the book, by the way, just for everybody watching this, it's up on sale right now on Amazon because of the huge volume.

00:43:34.000 We're in the top 30 on all of Amazon, which is really surprising.

00:43:37.000 I have no idea if people wanted to hear this much about the history of communism, but apparently I think people are starting to get it, that it's on discount right now, $17.99.

00:43:46.000 But the question is, Will it end on its own?

00:43:51.000 Will it just peter out?

00:43:52.000 Or do people actually have to do something?

00:43:55.000 I'll pass that to Joshua.

00:43:58.000 Yes. The patterns of the past, well, they don't necessarily tell us what's going to happen in the future.

00:44:02.000 They do give us some clues.

00:44:05.000 When we went back and we looked at the various communist revolutions and even governments that came about, we asked ourselves, what did it take to defeat them?

00:44:12.000 Well, the first defeat of communism is, we like to call it, the Ouroboros option.

00:44:18.000 That, of course, is the symbol of the snake eating itself.

00:44:21.000 And here in the West, we have the term that the left always eats its own, the left eats itself.

00:44:25.000 And this is true. Every single time communists were not stopped in the revolution, eventually they stopped themselves.

00:44:32.000 Whether it was in the Soviet Union or in other revolutions or perhaps...

00:44:37.000 In a dark, comedic way, during the Spanish Civil War, you had the wrong kind of communists being rounded up and executed by their own.

00:44:46.000 There were devotees of Leon Trotsky, the contemporary of Joseph Stalin, who was the wrong kind of a communist.

00:44:52.000 So you had actual communist revolutionary soldiers being arrested and then shot by their fellow communists.

00:44:59.000 This is what the unhumans do. 1.00

00:45:01.000 do.

00:45:02.000 They rob and they kill and when there's a lack of potential victims of the oppressor 0.96

00:45:07.000 class well then they just rob and kill each other. 0.96

00:45:09.000 This is what they do. 0.94

00:45:11.000 Every single time by the way.

00:45:12.000 That is less than ideal, letting them eat themselves because eventually they're going

00:45:17.000 to run out of innocent victims to attack.

00:45:21.000 Are there other ways besides staying as far away from them as possible, kind of the George

00:45:25.000 Kennan containment strategy, just let them stay over there in the eastern hemisphere, 0.76

00:45:29.000 the southern hemisphere, just eat each other for a few decades and then we'll kind of wait

00:45:32.000 it out here.

00:45:34.000 Less than ideal in our context when the micro revolution could come for any of you who are

00:45:40.000 You could be next. You could be the one who's targeted, dox, cancel, debank, deplatform, destroyed.

00:45:45.000 Exactly. Yes. All of the above right here.

00:45:47.000 Congratulations. Yes, yes.

00:45:50.000 And so waiting it out is not ideal in the Communist Revolution 2.0 that we're currently experiencing.

00:45:55.000 So what else is there?

00:45:57.000 Well, there is the strong man, the great man of history, the one who, to repurpose a famous quote of Generalissimo Francisco Franco, wherever I am there will be no communism.

00:46:11.000 Someone with the iron resolve of Franco, or in the context of a proto-communist revolution that Julius Caesar put down, or we could pick apart his methods, but Pinochet in South America.

00:46:27.000 These are men who said, no, full stop, no, not going to happen, not on my watch.

00:46:31.000 And of course we had that in the cultural Marxist context of the 1950s and 60s with Senator Joseph McCarthy, who was making a list and checking it twice, who was isolating those people who were subversives in the United States government and media and elsewhere.

00:46:49.000 And unfortunately, in McCarthy's case, he was slowed down and brought to a halt.

00:46:53.000 But that is one of the strategies, is when someone says no.

00:46:57.000 And any one of us can be that one who says no.

00:47:00.000 We can choose to be in our village, our town, our county, our city, whether it's a county sheriff, it could be a prosecutor, it could be a governor, it could be a state senator, it could be an entrepreneur, it could be someone like Elon Musk, who says no, wherever I am, there will be no unhumans. 0.98

00:47:19.000 So, Josh, I mean, this is really, I mean, the book is a toolbook on how Americans can be informed and actually fight back.

00:47:25.000 You know, what will the readers learn about doing just that?

00:47:29.000 Because you talk about, you know, I think Elon, whether, you know, honestly, maybe Trump, some of these guys that are fighting back against these kind of things, that whether it's a direct fight, whether it's just sort of the undue attacks, you know, someone who's loved one minute and then attacked the next minute because he took on Even a minor aspect of, you know, the mandatory talking points and, you know, of today's radical left, you know, what do you learn in the toolbook?

00:47:54.000 How can regular people do that?

00:47:56.000 You know, again, they tried canceling me, they tried me for treason, they wanted to go after, like, it's fine.

00:48:00.000 I'm blessed to have, you know, the means, you know, a fairly large sort of, you know, Apple box to stand on and scream from.

00:48:10.000 Perhaps a little bit more resolve than most.

00:48:12.000 I'm not that worried about losing my job or not being welcomed at the PTA meeting.

00:48:16.000 I don't really care. Not everyone has that same ability.

00:48:19.000 Or, you know, fortitude.

00:48:22.000 How does the regular person fight back?

00:48:24.000 What can they learn to be able to do that or at least be able to help?

00:48:28.000 Yes, the best way to neutralize the forces of anti-civilization should they come for you is to turn the tables on them.

00:48:35.000 And what communists do or Marxists, socialists, progressists, whatever they call themselves in any context, whatever they call themselves when they come for you, is to prepare your own environment for operation.

00:48:47.000 That is, getting people on your side.

00:48:50.000 Influencers, individuals who can speak on your behalf, who can advocate for you.

00:48:54.000 Making friends with those key relationships, those key influencers in your world.

00:49:00.000 It doesn't mean necessarily going online and posting about this or that national issue and complaining about that.

00:49:07.000 It's taking action. Enough complaining.

00:49:09.000 Enough outrage porn. 1.00

00:49:11.000 It's time to do something for yourself in your own world, in your own career, in your own town or city, in your county, in your jurisdiction.

00:49:19.000 Do you know the names of the chief of police, your county sheriff, the sheriff's deputies, the prosecutor?

00:49:26.000 Are you campaigning for...

00:49:28.000 People are supporting people who are going to protect you in the event that there is lawfare waged against you.

00:49:34.000 And what about your own career?

00:49:36.000 Are you anti-fragile?

00:49:38.000 Can you withstand a cancellation?

00:49:39.000 If you're doxed, if you're debanked, if you're deplatformed, Are you going to be okay?

00:49:45.000 So these are specific things that every single person who may not be high profile, and therefore have the benefits of a high profile person, there are specific things that they can do, even if they're an everyman.

00:49:59.000 And of course, it's the everyman, the eight to five, Wage earner, salaried professional who seems least likely to be targeted, but yet they're the most vulnerable.

00:50:09.000 If you're successful, if you're hardworking, if you're law-abiding, if you're, let's say, if you're a white Christian male, for example, then guess what?

00:50:18.000 You're an oppressor. You're in the class that has been condemned to being robbed and to being killed. 0.97

00:50:24.000 And this is over the last 250 years of communist revolutions.

00:50:29.000 So no matter how good you are, how nice you are, that's no defense whatsoever.

00:50:34.000 Now speaking of what defense is going to work is the one thing that unhumans cannot stand.

00:50:39.000 It is their bane. It is their kryptonite.

00:50:41.000 It is their insta-poison.

00:50:43.000 And that is laughter.

00:50:46.000 Making fun of them, mocking them, humiliating them, pointing and laughing with all your mates, that causes them to shrivel up and go find someone somewhere else to play with.

00:50:58.000 Yeah, and it feels like there's a great opportunity for that.

00:51:00.000 You're right. I mean, I poke a lot of fun at it.

00:51:02.000 It's what goes viral, you know, years.

00:51:05.000 I mean, I was one of the early guys sort of making fun of like the trans women in sports kind of thing.

00:51:09.000 And, you know, even on Twitter, like Twitter 1.0, which was like, you know, let's call it a 95.5 battlefield.

00:51:14.000 You weren't going to give it up. But like, you know, people would get on there and I'm laughing about it and making a joke.

00:51:19.000 And they're like... Man, I hate your guts, Don Jr., but you're actually right about this.

00:51:24.000 I can't believe I'm agreeing with Don Jr.

00:51:27.000 on anything. So it does feel like that, and it feels to me like we're also at a place where The things that you'd laugh about.

00:51:35.000 Nomenclature. Words that would literally have gotten you cancelled two years ago for simply uttering.

00:51:40.000 Stuff that was part of our vernacular growing up.

00:51:42.000 Maybe a little bit older but all sort of in the similar age range.

00:51:47.000 That was part of everyday vernacular.

00:51:49.000 Would have gotten you cancelled two years ago.

00:51:51.000 You see those terms just coming back and people don't care anymore.

00:51:54.000 So it does feel like there's an opportunity there.

00:51:56.000 What do you think? The other – if I can hop in, the other piece of it is in addition to mockery is – which is good by the way because mockery brings people to your side.

00:52:08.000 Mockery is one of those things laughing and people who are having a good time.

00:52:11.000 Nobody wants to be with the people at the party who are like scolding everybody and the people who are always saying stop having fun.

00:52:17.000 People want to be with the side who are laughing and having a good time and – That clearly these days is the MAGA side, is the right, quote-unquote, or just the normals.

00:52:28.000 I think at this point just the normal people.

00:52:30.000 But the other piece of this is a word that conservatives for many years have been very scared of and a word that it doesn't even fit into their constitutional fortitude, and that's the word reciprocity.

00:52:46.000 The idea that reciprocity, doing to them that which they do unto us and taking action because this is the only thing that the cultural Marxist actually fears is number one, being identified.

00:53:00.000 That's number one. So being called out because the communist does not want anyone to find out who they really are.

00:53:05.000 So basic things like pointing out Matthew Colangelo, who is this guy who had been the same person that was suing the Trump administration, then going to the DOJ, then going to Letitia James' office, and now finds himself in Alvin Bragg's office in every single one of the lawsuits, the civil suits, and now the criminal charges against President Trump.

00:53:28.000 And it's like the same guy is running all of this?

00:53:30.000 Hold on a second. What's going on?

00:53:32.000 And then so your father, of course, names him and then he gets slapped with the gag order right after.

00:53:37.000 Why? Right?

00:53:38.000 Because they fear identification.

00:53:40.000 They fear reciprocity.

00:53:42.000 They fear any of it being actually turned on them.

00:53:45.000 And that's why whenever you or anybody calls out like a journalist for lying or – which is all they do really.

00:53:52.000 How do you know a journalist is lying?

00:53:53.000 Because they're writing something that – That identifying them and turning any of the screws to them is the opposite of what they're supposed to want.

00:54:03.000 So they will say – they will immediately scream, this is harassment.

00:54:06.000 They will scream, you are targeting me.

00:54:08.000 They will scream – they will claim that they're getting death threats even though there aren't any actual death threats that they ever show you.

00:54:14.000 But there's a reason for it because they are terrified of just one frappe.

00:54:20.000 One fraction of that amount of pressure being actually put on them.

00:54:26.000 And that is what the right needs to embrace because I keep hearing this over and over.

00:54:29.000 Even with the title of our book, we had people coming out saying, whoa, guys, on humans, that's a little mean.

00:54:37.000 Don, could you imagine what would happen if we start calling the left...

00:54:43.000 You know, mean words.

00:54:44.000 They might start doing the same to us.

00:54:47.000 And then where do we end?

00:54:48.000 We should win by being better than them.

00:54:51.000 We should take the high road.

00:54:53.000 I'm like, well, I'm sorry, but if you're going to sit back and rush your principles and lose, yeah, no.

00:54:59.000 Let's fight fire with fire.

00:55:01.000 I have another one. It's called let's fight fire with fire.

00:55:03.000 So, I always say, you know, we play football, they play hardball, they laugh as, you know, they win, you know, democracy, all these, there are soundbites that they laugh about as they trample, you know, all of these things.

00:55:14.000 That said, I mean, there is a component of, you know, as conservatives, what we believe in, you know, are we going to break the law to do that?

00:55:22.000 And it is a tough thing, right?

00:55:24.000 I mean, they're clearly violating any of the rules and norms and decency and the Constitution on a daily basis.

00:55:30.000 What is that line, though, where you just actually end up with chaos because there are no rules anymore?

00:55:37.000 Well, that's right. And we don't certainly advocate for breaking the law or violence or anything like that in the book.

00:55:43.000 It's basically like forming networks of people, networks of men, networks of moms that are out there and banding together.

00:55:53.000 Now, obviously, there's different levels to this when we break it out in the end of the book.

00:55:57.000 where and Joshua is actually just put together such an incredible system

00:56:02.000 because I had the history side but Joshua had the the system side to all of it and and a system to

00:56:09.000 derail cultural Marxism derail all of it at multiple levels all at once but we've got

00:56:15.000 we've got the highest level that That's sort of the great men of means level.

00:56:18.000 And the great men of means – look, not everybody can go and found a truth social or lead a movement to take back America electorally or purchase X or found a rumble like Chris Pawlowski and the great team have done.

00:56:32.000 That's a very special category.

00:56:34.000 And all of those people and everyone dealing with the parallel economy, Mike Seifert and the guys over at Public Square, of course, that's key.

00:56:40.000 That's the great men of means level.

00:56:42.000 And everyone at the lower levels needs to be supporting those guys at all times, period, full stop.

00:56:48.000 That's number one. But then for people who are at the institutional level, we've got to start re-infiltrating.

00:56:53.000 We cannot allow the institutions, not all of them, some of the institutions, yeah, okay, we're going to have to get rid of them.

00:56:59.000 But other ones, we can re-infiltrate and re-take over.

00:57:03.000 And this is actually something that I've argued for the military for a long time because a lot of people come to me and say, hey, should I stay in?

00:57:08.000 Should I get out? And I know you know a lot of guys who are serving.

00:57:12.000 I tell people to stay in.

00:57:14.000 I say if you can. If you can stay in, stay in, because we're going to need good people in there when we're on the other side of this.

00:57:21.000 And then finally, at the lower level, you need people forming those networks to just make a decision, whether it's your community, whether it's your neighborhood, whether it's your parish, whether it's your church, to say, I'm going to be against this stuff.

00:57:33.000 And we've seen the moms already fighting back in the school boards. 1.00

00:57:38.000 It's literally just taking any action at all.

00:57:41.000 Don't just complain. Don't just sit there on Twitter and social media.

00:57:45.000 Look, I'm guilty of this as much as anybody else.

00:57:47.000 You and I, we've got to be a little careful how we say that.

00:57:50.000 But we're doing other things, too.

00:57:51.000 We're bitching like no other, but we're actually out there. 0.79

00:57:54.000 I help take Public Square public.

00:57:56.000 I'm in these battles.

00:57:58.000 I'm on the board of Truth Social.

00:57:59.000 I am on the front lines of just the whole, hey, build your own.

00:58:03.000 Okay, we will. We actually will.

00:58:05.000 They sort of did it as a, oh, you don't like Twitter 1.0?

00:58:08.000 Go build your own. It's like, okay, I guess we will.

00:58:10.000 It's not easy. They put up every roadblock imaginable, but we have no choice but to do that.

00:58:16.000 And then, you're right, you need the commensurate support from everyone else who understands what's going on.

00:58:21.000 Hey, don't just go to Amazon because you always did.

00:58:24.000 Go to one of these other businesses.

00:58:25.000 Support the businesses that actually matter.

00:58:27.000 Yes. Very much so.

00:58:29.000 And we actually argue, and maybe Joshua can explain this a little more, that what we're in right now, we refer to it as essentially an irregular revolution.

00:58:39.000 Because in the same way that warfare has changed over the years, second generation, third generation, okay?

00:58:44.000 You don't have like the troops that line up on the field and shoot each other in formation like it's the Civil War or the revolution anymore.

00:58:50.000 No, it's an irregular revolution.

00:58:52.000 There's a reason why you can walk down the street and like things seem kind of normal, things seem kind of fine.

00:58:58.000 But, you know, or if you do like I like to, you know, I walk around D.C. with Tanya and the kids and I'll just be walking down the street and go, hey, Trump won!

00:59:04.000 You know, Trump actually won 2020.

00:59:06.000 Trump won! Trump won 2020!

00:59:07.000 I've been doing it on livestream every once in a while.

00:59:09.000 I did it at the Jefferson Memorial the other day during the Cherry Blossom Festival.

00:59:13.000 And you can see just the anger and the rage and the emotional contortions that get off on people and their faces.

00:59:21.000 And this is because they have been put into this Cultural Marxist framework of believing that everyone is oppressed or isn't oppressed and within this irregular revolution that we find ourselves in, and it certainly is a cultural revolution form, that micro-revolutions, and this is a concept people need to understand as well.

00:59:43.000 Yeah.

00:59:46.000 revolution can be launched every day. We could launch one against Don Jr. right now. So they've

00:59:51.000 attempted many micro revolutions against you. They could launch one against against or they launched

00:59:54.000 one against me the other day because I said the I put oh yeah I put up the picture of the um of

00:59:59.000 the bridge that collapsed and I said at least your grandchildren will know you fought racism.

01:00:03.000 Yeah well no they went after you like 10 days ago.

01:00:07.000 You didn't understand what I was saying. You were speaking at CPAC, clearly being sarcastic, and it was like, oh my god, Paul Sobek said that!

01:00:12.000 I'm like, there's not a sane person in the world that watched what you said and didn't know that, I mean, you're literally just trolling, and it's like, you know, but they do that, right?

01:00:24.000 They take something that's a verbal skit, they change the punctuation, they put it in print, this is what he said!

01:00:30.000 said it's like yeah but like everyone knows that's not what he said like you

01:00:33.000 know or like the other day or any any of these things any of these things and the

01:00:37.000 reason these are done we call them micro revolutions for a reason it's because

01:00:42.000 they are done in an attempt to increase the revolutionary fervor of their own

01:00:47.000 followers and supporters against that individual because that individual has

01:00:52.000 decided to be a target so either either they will use it to target an individual

01:00:56.000 or increase the power of someone on their own side Joshua do you want to

01:00:59.000 to chime in on micro revolutions and that tactic.

01:01:03.000 Yes, the reason micro-revolutions can be incited so quickly in a matter of minutes via our social media tools is because, speaking of OPE, again, the mental environment has already been prepared.

01:01:18.000 One of the keys of OPE, besides separating, okay, who are we going to be with us?

01:01:23.000 Who are we going to be assaulting?

01:01:24.000 That's the key separation stage.

01:01:26.000 After that comes messaging.

01:01:28.000 What are the quick little slogans and quips and labels that we're going to use so that people know it's okay for us to do what we're doing?

01:01:38.000 For example, the right wing extremist, right wing watch, far right, alt right.

01:01:44.000 Any of that sort of manipulative language that tells people what to think and how to feel about it.

01:01:48.000 And I have a series on Twitter, now X, where I point out the propaganda that is consistently put out by Western journalists to prepare the mental environment for these little micro-revolts.

01:02:02.000 Yeah, you see... By the way, I see that all the time.

01:02:04.000 It's like something happens. It's not even a big deal.

01:02:06.000 And yet, every journalism...

01:02:07.000 It's like the same four words.

01:02:09.000 And they're random enough that it doesn't seem like much, except...

01:02:12.000 They're the same forwards in the exact same context.

01:02:15.000 It's like there's a network behind the scenes.

01:02:19.000 Every leftist gets this thing.

01:02:21.000 They figure out how to incorporate right-wing extremism.

01:02:23.000 It was worse than Pearl Harbor. 0.61

01:02:26.000 And all of a sudden... Everyone's saying the same thing as though it's the gospel, even though it's just a coordinated effort by people with reasonably large followings all saying basically the same thing.

01:02:36.000 These aren't original thoughts.

01:02:38.000 It's not like someone saw this and did it.

01:02:39.000 Someone got an email, cut and paste, basically the thought, and everyone's saying the same thing.

01:02:45.000 It's really contrived if you get it all in volume.

01:02:48.000 but if you're just sort of getting it piecemeal little by little it actually has the effect of I guess what it's

01:02:52.000 intended to do which is you know create that

01:02:55.000 You know adverse feelings towards whether it's Republicans or whatever is going on

01:03:00.000 Yes, and the key is that it needs to seem reasonable otherwise to normies

01:03:06.000 Recall that the reason Vladimir Lenin and the Bolsheviks were able to gain the support that they got in 1917, 1918, and beyond was their slogan, Peace, Land, Bread.

01:03:18.000 Peace, land, bread.

01:03:20.000 That means no war, solve the former serfdom problem that hadn't quite been resolved yet, and of course make sure there's plenty of food for everybody.

01:03:27.000 Who doesn't want that, right?

01:03:29.000 That's just so reasonable.

01:03:31.000 So when you talk to a normie, I like to call them NPR Americans because they listen to NPR and they believe it's 100% is true.

01:03:37.000 They'll say things like, well, lawfare against Trump?

01:03:42.000 That's not a thing. No one is above the law.

01:03:45.000 Every single time.

01:03:46.000 That's a big one.

01:03:48.000 I watched the meltdown this week when they simply reduced the bond, which is still a number that's unheard of for, you know, a victimless, you know, because it doesn't matter.

01:03:57.000 I can't believe they would do it.

01:03:59.000 It's like they negate the fact that the appellate division, you know, six months ago, threw out two-thirds of the judgment already.

01:04:05.000 So they basically left everything that the appellate division didn't rule on.

01:04:07.000 But the judge in the primary case, again, who was overruled like five different times on it, just that You know what?

01:04:13.000 We'll leave it in. Because if you get a bond, you've got to pay on the bigger number.

01:04:16.000 Even if the bigger number is fictitious, even if it's going to be overturned, that's another way to hurt them.

01:04:20.000 So I don't care what the rules are anymore.

01:04:23.000 Everyone has to comply.

01:04:25.000 And it's nonsense.

01:04:27.000 But again, maybe it's gone so far that people are waking up to it.

01:04:30.000 It's so extreme that even those who aren't on your side are like, you know what?

01:04:34.000 It's only a matter of time until they turn this stuff on me.

01:04:38.000 Exactly, exactly.

01:04:39.000 Even though there is this mass manipulation strategy that has been at work for at least three generations now amongst the West and particularly Americans, enough people are waking up from gelman amnesia. 0.92

01:04:53.000 And for those unfamiliar, gelman amnesia is where, let's say you're reading a headline on CNN or on Fox or NPR or wherever, and you're looking at it and then you realize...

01:05:03.000 Something is said about your industry or about someone you know personally, and you think, but that's not right.

01:05:09.000 That's wrong. And then you read the next headline and assume it's right.

01:05:13.000 And it was just that one thing that was wrong.

01:05:16.000 For example, there's been both malicious and honest mistakes that have been printed and published about me over the years.

01:05:24.000 And once you had that happen to you, you can't take anything else seriously that ever happens.

01:05:29.000 But most people, the NPR Americans, this doesn't happen to them.

01:05:33.000 They don't know that.

01:05:35.000 But enough people are, whether it's with vaccines, for example, and all of the propaganda that was behind that machine, or it's around elections, or it's around crime, squatters, for example, and with a lot of people who are Democrats who know how lending works, mortgages, loans, that sort of world, seeing what's been happening to your father, President Trump.

01:05:58.000 They go, wait a second.

01:06:00.000 Yeah, that's not how it works.

01:06:02.000 The amount of texts I get from leftist New York bankers and stuff like that, I think it was an interesting phenomenon.

01:06:08.000 I saw this for the first time from some of the biggest funders of the left.

01:06:13.000 Guys like Bill Ackman, who's a big financier, billionaire New York guy, but funded Hillary, Biden, all the Democrats for years.

01:06:20.000 It was interesting. When Kyle Rittenhouse was going through his trial, he got on Twitter before they started going after him for speaking out against Harvard and all that stuff and his wife.

01:06:30.000 But he got on there. He's like, wait a minute.

01:06:32.000 You mean this guy's not actually a white supremacist?

01:06:34.000 The victims weren't black? 0.92

01:06:36.000 One was a pedophile? 0.96

01:06:38.000 He's going, what is going on here? 0.88

01:06:40.000 And he goes on this long Twitter tirade.

01:06:43.000 Apparently the New York Times called him during it.

01:06:46.000 And he's like, did someone hack your account?

01:06:47.000 He goes... No, but, like, I've been watching this trial.

01:06:51.000 I'm watching the guy, and, like, this is not what the media told me was the gospel.

01:06:55.000 And he goes, and it's funny.

01:06:57.000 For 40 years, I've been on, you know, major transactions.

01:07:01.000 on one side or the other of a vast majority of the major transactions in New York,

01:07:06.000 and I'd read the Wall Street Journal, and I'd read what they said about a transaction

01:07:09.000 that I was literally intimately involved in, and I'd laugh at how ridiculous it was, 0.77

01:07:14.000 how off it was, how wrong it was.

01:07:16.000 But then I'd turn the page, and I'd read another article about something

01:07:19.000 that I was not a subject matter expert, and I just assumed it to be true, 0.99

01:07:22.000 whereas I should have just assumed that it was all bullshit, 0.97

01:07:24.000 like the stuff that they were talking about me. 0.95

01:07:26.000 And so there does seem to be a little bit of an awakening.

01:07:31.000 That's a perfect example of Gelman amnesia applied. 1.00

01:07:35.000 So Bill Ackman is a guy who obviously has suddenly had this – maybe gradually and then suddenly had this awakening and is now coming online to realize that we need – who's, by the way, not a guy of the right by any means.

01:07:48.000 I think he's funding like random Democrat people.

01:07:50.000 He understands Biden's a dissenter.

01:07:53.000 Yeah. But he's anti-Biden, right?

01:07:56.000 And you got a lot of these far lefties behind RFK's campaign too now, by the way, including his VP pick.

01:08:02.000 But one of the key, I guess, the key things we break out in on humans is this understanding that it's always been this way.

01:08:12.000 And it's always been this tactic again and again.

01:08:16.000 These are all different tactics that they use to trick you.

01:08:18.000 They use to propagandize you.

01:08:20.000 and things that you thought you knew about the past, whether it be the Spanish Civil War,

01:08:25.000 whether it be the Russian Revolution, that for years, the media, including the New York Times,

01:08:32.000 supported the Russian communists. They said, this is great. 0.94

01:08:35.000 This is the wave of the future.

01:08:37.000 We're going to have government by expert. We're going to have people who actually matter

01:08:42.000 in positions of power. And the New York Times sent over a reporter named Walter Durante,

01:08:49.000 who went to Ukraine and many of these other places, who saw the famine conditions,

01:08:54.000 saw the famine conditions in Ukraine, the Holodomor, and saw, and really the famine

01:08:57.000 that was all over Russia, predicated on the basis of these insane, false, scientific,

01:09:03.000 pseudoscience beliefs called Lysenkoism, and he lied about it. He just straight up lied about it.

01:09:08.000 He said, it's great, everything, everyone loves it. It's wonderful, covers up the atrocities,

01:09:12.000 covers up the purges, covers up everything. So you have this system where people always say,

01:09:17.000 the history is always written by the victors, but it's like with communism, for some reason,

01:09:23.000 history is written by the losers, just because all the writers are on that side,

01:09:27.000 basically, and all the people from that class are on that side. 0.86

01:09:30.000 And so, they've written this entirely false history about communism, and really about the 20th century, that we've all believed for forever.

01:09:39.000 Oh, we just take it as rote.

01:09:40.000 You know, the communists weren't so bad, and And certainly, you know, we've seen movie after movie. 0.94

01:09:46.000 Laura Logan actually tweeted this.

01:09:47.000 She said, we've seen movie after movie about World War II. We get it.

01:09:50.000 World War II was bad. 0.95

01:09:51.000 We understand. We'd rather not have another one of those if possible.

01:09:55.000 No World War III. Can we all agree on that?

01:09:57.000 Hopefully. Some people, though, they said they want that.

01:10:00.000 It seems like they do, certainly.

01:10:02.000 But then you also realize that there were other things that happened in the 20th century that we totally overlook.

01:10:07.000 And this, by and large, is communism and the remit and the consequences of communism and the way that it still affects our world today.

01:10:16.000 And hopefully, with this book, we can put it together and actually explain to some people what's actually been going on in many of these places that has led to the situation we find ourselves in today.

01:10:28.000 Yeah, so Jack, I mean, to take that a little bit further, I guess, how does all of that relate to the chaos and war we're seeing abroad right now, right?

01:10:35.000 You follow the war in Ukraine, obviously, very closely.

01:10:38.000 How close are we to, like, nuclear war with Russia?

01:10:42.000 You know, the sort of blind funding of these things that we haven't...

01:10:46.000 Listen, I follow this stuff pretty closely.

01:10:47.000 I've yet to see anyone articulate what victory looks like other than perhaps...

01:10:52.000 The genocide of the entire Russian population.

01:10:56.000 I guess a guy that was an actor in a previously more corrupt country than Russia by our own metrics.

01:11:06.000 How should this be analyzed in the context of the book?

01:11:10.000 Because it seems like we're talking about those parts of the world pretty extensively, but it's sort of happening again.

01:11:15.000 So we talk about the Cold War a lot in the book, and we talk about the Cold War in the sense that it was, of course, this competition between the forces of democracy and Western society against the forces of international communism.

01:11:31.000 The communists were going around funding these revolutions all over the world just using

01:11:35.000 money they had looted from the Russian treasury, the imperial treasury, and then use that to

01:11:39.000 of course export the revolution.

01:11:41.000 This is all very, very clear but nobody really talks about it in this way.

01:11:46.000 So in the current sort of neo-Cold War, Cold War II that we find ourselves in, there's

01:11:51.000 an interesting inversion that's taken place whereby in the collective west, the cultural

01:11:59.000 Marxist left, DEI left, the woke west if you will, the neo-liberal order I think is probably

01:12:06.000 the best term for them.

01:12:08.000 We can't say New World Order. We're never allowed to say New World Order.

01:12:10.000 But the neoliberal rules – they always have to come up with these little terms.

01:12:14.000 The neoliberal rules-based order.

01:12:18.000 This has actually become – so in the West, the reason that – and George Kennan, which Joshua mentioned, had written this policy and said, well, we need to contain it.

01:12:26.000 We need to contain communism.

01:12:27.000 We need to contain communism and make sure it's an over there problem so it doesn't become an over here problem.

01:12:32.000 And then Joseph McCarthy goes and does what he does and HUAC. And by the way, RFK's father was part of Joseph McCarthy's original committee, so I actually worked on this.

01:12:41.000 So this was not like a Republican-Democrat thing.

01:12:46.000 The communists of the past were the expansionist power and they were led by Russia pushing everything else, pushing their ideology around the world. 0.68

01:12:57.000 Here's the interesting inversion.

01:13:00.000 These days, it's not the Russians who are pushing their ideology on the world. 0.93

01:13:05.000 It's us. It's the neoliberal West who are pushing our, and when I say our, I guess I mean I would say the lefts, these left-wing neoliberal values on places like, oh, we're going to go to Afghanistan and we're going to have LGBT parades in Kabul.

01:13:23.000 It's going to be wonderful. Here's $20 billion to Pakistan for trans programs.

01:13:27.000 I'm like, I don't know. It doesn't seem like it.

01:13:29.000 And you see the problem.

01:13:31.000 You see the issue and this is the way whereby in we have found ourselves pushing further

01:13:38.000 and further into this combination of a militaristic backing because of course the neoliberals

01:13:46.000 who are – and the neocons together who control our government also control the military.

01:13:51.000 And they will say, well, these guys over in Ukraine, they're not doing enough of – they're

01:13:57.000 not enough in the neoliberal order.

01:13:58.000 So we're going to take them over.

01:13:59.000 We're going to coup their country and we're going to put them in and of course that's 1.00

01:14:03.000 going to go off again.

01:14:05.000 And what we're going to do then is push them further into our sphere so they adopt 1.00

01:14:12.000 our values and we're going to use the US military to expand it.

01:14:15.000 This is the same exact thing that the Soviets were doing during the Cold War.

01:14:20.000 And by the way, in some cases in the same locations with Afghanistan.

01:14:23.000 And so we have actually become – and it's tough for Americans to accept this.

01:14:28.000 We've become the expansionists.

01:14:30.000 We're the ones who are pushing out further into places where people just want to be left alone or at least would rather prefer to have some kind of peace deal in place.

01:14:40.000 So maybe a question for both of you guys before we wrap up, which is where has the right gone wrong in the past as it relates to sort of combating this American Marxism and corruption?

01:14:52.000 How much of it is a policy problem versus a messaging problem?

01:14:57.000 It seems to be a purity test problem, if I had to describe it.

01:15:01.000 And that is—and we've even seen this the past week, Jack and I, with various factions, both Christian and secular, on the right, having different bones to pick with the title of Unhumans and the concept of reciprocity, getting angered by the fact that anything that's not turning the other cheek is not Christ-like, for example. Yeah, well, you saw them with going crazy.

01:15:24.000 Trump's going to try to get revenge.

01:15:25.000 He's going to try to— Like, the projection of, like, what, like, aren't you guys the guy doing it?

01:15:31.000 No, no, no, but Trump said you'd be in jail.

01:15:32.000 I go, Trump made a quip, like, in a debate that was a great soundbite, but, like, then didn't do any of those things.

01:15:38.000 But you fear that he's going to do the things that you are actively doing because you understand just how bad it is that you got to create this whole, I mean, they literally tried making the election.

01:15:49.000 I think we shut it down pretty quickly.

01:15:50.000 Like, have you looked at what you are doing?

01:15:53.000 And then that sort of went away, but it didn't stop him trying desperately for about a two-week period to say that Trump's the guy that's going to be doing that.

01:15:59.000 He's going to trample democracy in the process, yada, yada, yada.

01:16:03.000 That's right. It seems all too easy for discord to be sown amongst conservatives and not so much coalition building, which needs to take place.

01:16:12.000 Now the reason that Peter Rangel of the White Army that was in opposition to the Bolsheviks, the reason he admitted in his memoir, Always With Honor, that the anti-communists failed is that they were not organized, neither were they unanimous.

01:16:26.000 You had multiple generals who wanted to do things their way.

01:16:28.000 They wanted to be the one who called the shots.

01:16:30.000 They wanted to follow their own strategy.

01:16:32.000 And because of that infighting, they were not able to have an overwhelming, unanimous, organized response.

01:16:38.000 And we see a similar issue with conservatives, both in the Republican Party and out of it, amongst Christians, amongst Catholics, Protestants.

01:16:46.000 It seems like there's this perpetual purity test of what's a real conservative or I'm

01:16:51.000 the one who speaks for conservative values or I'm the one who's the best defenders of

01:16:56.000 what the framers intended.

01:16:57.000 And then they build their PAC or their NGO or their 501c3 or 4 and then they go fundraising

01:17:02.000 and then it becomes a sort of – And attack everyone else who's not 100 percent on board

01:17:05.000 with exactly what they're doing.

01:17:06.000 Whereas the left is like if they're 51 percent, they take the win, they move on, they take

01:17:10.000 another win, death by a thousand cuts and they end up winning in the end. 0.98

01:17:13.000 Yes, it's easy to organize the mob when you say, hey, want to go rob and kill some 0.99

01:17:18.000 people?

01:17:19.000 That appeals to the fringes of society, and you're instantly able to round people up.

01:17:24.000 This is how Vladimir Lenin started, by the way, is looking at the underclasses of society and recruiting from there.

01:17:29.000 That's where the message of violence was most able to be—it was most fertile.

01:17:35.000 That was the most fertile, I must say, psychic messaging space.

01:17:39.000 Whereas with conservatives, I think what the right and the center, and I like to call them

01:17:44.000 gently farmers market liberals, I would say that they're allies in the fight against communism.

01:17:50.000 What all of them collectively need to understand is the time and season in which we live.

01:17:54.000 And what the book is intended to do outside of selling a whole lot of coffees, of course,

01:18:00.000 and being commercially successful, is to be culturally successful.

01:18:03.000 It's for this to be a civilization-changing message to help people understand, to wake up from the normie stupor that, oh, wait, we are so far past Being called mean or not nice.

01:18:18.000 I think that's right. I think there's an incredible window to get some of those people, you know, the independent, the non-insane liberals, what's left.

01:18:27.000 And again, in our country right now, you get a couple points of those, that's it.

01:18:30.000 And you can actually do some damage because I think, you know, reasonable people are looking at what's going on and they're getting that, whether they, you know, again, it's not even a factor of Trump, but whether they like Trump or conservatives or not, like reasonable people who otherwise probably wouldn't are like, Okay, society, civilization as we know it is over if we don't do something about this and the track we're on, which is scary, but again, I think it creates a great window for us.

01:18:53.000 Jack, where can people find the book again just so they can make sure that everyone can get it and check it out and start putting these practices into place?

01:19:03.000 Yeah, we're up everywhere.

01:19:04.000 Amazon.com right now has us up for $17.99, 40% off.

01:19:10.000 That's due to high volume of sales.

01:19:12.000 So we're just overwhelmed with the support that we've received early on in this thing.

01:19:16.000 We only announced it about a week ago now.

01:19:19.000 But also Barnes& Noble, Skyhorse Publishing.

01:19:21.000 People can get it at a variety of places because I'll throw out the Amazon link and then I'll get like maybe like 20% of the replies will say, I don't want to put money in Jeff Bezos' pocket.

01:19:30.000 There's probably some bookstores on Public Square.

01:19:32.000 There's probably bookstores on Public Square.

01:19:35.000 Find one, order it through them.

01:19:36.000 You know what I mean? We should figure that out.

01:19:38.000 I started a publishing company because it was so biased in this thing.

01:19:45.000 That's how insane it is, but it's good to see you were published by someone else because, like a lot of the people we've published, it was like, they get a book, they get a deal, they get a this, and then they're like, yeah, we're just not going to put it out anymore.

01:19:54.000 It's like... So, you know, that's what we're up against.

01:19:57.000 So it's important. So, you know, guys, please go check out the book.

01:20:00.000 Everyone go pre-order it.

01:20:02.000 Read it. Learn it.

01:20:03.000 Preach it. You know, get it out there.

01:20:05.000 Let's all fight back. Joshua, Jack, thank you so much for being here.

01:20:09.000 Really appreciate your guys' time and that you're taking the effort to actually, you know, be engaged at this level and put out that sort of roadmap for how we combat the nonsense.

01:20:18.000 Thank you so much, Don. I really appreciate it.

01:20:20.000 Thanks, Don. My pleasure. Guys, that was great.

01:20:23.000 Thank you so much for tuning in.

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