On today's show, we talk with Jack Posobiec and his co-author Joshua Lysak about their new book, "Unhumans: The Secret History of Communist Revolutions and How to Crush Them." It's coming soon, but it's a must-listen for anyone who doesn't know who it's about. They talk about why the left is celebrating a fake holiday during Easter and why it's not a coincidence. Plus, a look at why Joe Biden and the rest of the Democratic Party chose to celebrate National Pork Day on Easter Sunday, and why they do it in the first place. You won't want to miss this one. Triggered is a production of Native Creative Podcasts. Please remember to rate, review, and subscribe to our new show on Apple Podcasts and wherever else you get your podcasts. If you don't already have an Apple device, you can get 10% off the first month with the promo code: "Triggered" and we'll send you $10 off your first month and a free copy of the book "How to Crush Communists" when it's available on Amazon starting July 15th! Thank you so much for all the support we've gotten so far, and we can't thank you enough for all of the amazing work you've done so far and we're looking forward to seeing you in the next few months. Thank you, folks! Timestamps: 1:00:00 - What's a good Easter Day? 2:30 - What is a good day? 3: What does it mean to you? 4:15 - How to crush the radical left? 5:40 - What do you think about Easter? 6:00 7: Is it a real holiday? 8:00 | What would you do on Easter Day in America? 9:00 Do you have a problem? 11:00 Is it possible to be a woke holiday on Easter day? 13:00 What are you would you like to see me celebrate Easter Day on Monday? 14: What kind of holiday should I celebrate it? 15:00 Does it matter? 16:00 How do you want to crush them? 17:00 Would you be offended? 18:00 Can I have a better day of Easter Day be a day where I don't have a day that I celebrate Easter or a day like that? 19:30
00:09:14.000And of course, they didn't drop it on Easter Sunday for any real purpose.
00:09:20.000Right, folks? They would never do something like that.
00:09:23.000It's not all part of their attempts to destroy everything decent about our country and what's left of it.
00:09:31.000The whole thing was touted by Joe Biden, his press secretary, scores of White House officials, and Democrats across the country as this wonderful thing.
00:09:40.000Democrats think this fake holiday, which is apparently only created in the past few years, is a bigger deal than Easter.
00:09:46.000Joe Biden's ex-account released a statement yesterday, specifically referencing trans-Americans on Easter.
00:09:56.000Because they don't get enough attention in the world, folks.
00:09:59.000Literally the most protected class of Americans in all of society are the trans, right?
00:10:04.000You can murder people and have a journal and nothing's ever going to come from it.
00:14:05.000My eyes are rolling so far back into the head, they almost did a 360.
00:14:09.000Remember, folks, Biden's FBI, Biden's DOJ, treated Catholics like terrorists.
00:14:16.000If you were a practicing Catholic, you were a domestic terrorist.
00:14:21.000If you bought a Bible, you were marked by your banks, and that information was given to said FBI and DOJ. They think church-going patriots are terrorists, but not terrorists.
00:16:40.000It shouldn't be. But the FBI and their leadership and our DOJ have sent a very clear message who they believe are actual terrorists in America.
00:16:50.000And I can assure you, they're not actual terrorists.
00:16:53.000They're just patriots who believe in freedom and liberty.
00:16:57.000Meanwhile, folks, over in Denver, the liberals have decided that diversity is no longer our greatest strength.
00:17:04.000That's a shocker, because I was told that diversity is literally everything.
00:18:05.000Denver's offering migrants help to move on to anywhere else in the country.
00:18:09.000Tonight, for the first time, we're able to see how Denver tries to convince migrants to leave in video obtained by Next from Inside a Migrant Shelter.
00:18:23.000That's Andres Carrera, political director for Denver Mayor Mike Johnston.
00:18:27.000New York gives you more, Chicago gives you more.
00:18:30.000So I suggest you go there, where even with a longer term plan,
00:18:36.000there are more opportunities for work there.
00:18:39.000Carrera is Denver's so-called newcomer communications liaison.
00:18:43.000That means that he meets the busloads of new arrivals.
00:18:46.000The city says this group got here on March 26, sent up by Texas' Republican Governor Greg Abbott.
00:18:52.000He warns them the jobs, the resources, the opportunities have already gone to the 40,000 migrants who came to Denver before.
00:19:00.000If Denver is allowed to say that they can't take any more illegals, they are overrun, they cannot accommodate, it is too much of stress on their infrastructure and everything else, Why can't the nation say the exact same thing?
00:20:06.000Now, they can stay at all they want, and even if they're right, that's fine, but you can't buy this kind of stupidity, folks, but it's happening day in and day out.
00:20:17.000By the way, folks, in Boston right now, they are turning veteran housing into illegal immigrant housing.
00:20:30.000It tells us everything we need to understand about who the Democrat Party today prioritizes.
00:20:38.000If you cross the border illegally, like a month ago, Illegally, don't bring anything, have no education, are going to be a drain to the system forever.
00:20:47.000You're treated better by liberals and Democrats than if you spent literal years serving our incredible nation with blood, sweat, and tears.
00:21:22.000No nothing. You can attack our servicemen.
00:21:27.000During an invasion, you will be released.
00:21:32.000You will probably be given these benefits.
00:21:34.000They'll take... Other veterans throw them out of their housing that I'd say they earned and deserve, and they will put the illegals in there.
00:21:44.000This country is becoming a total joke.
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00:21:58.000Well, New York Democrat Governor Kenneth E. Hochul showed up to his funeral, but she was
00:23:38.000My husband died a hero, but he also lived as one.
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00:23:49.000It's been two years and two months since Detective Rivera and Detective Mora made the ultimate sacrifice, just like my husband, Jonathan Diller.
00:23:58.000Dominique Rivera stood in front of all the elected officials present today, pleading for change.
00:24:02.000That change never came, and now my son will grow up without his father, I will grow old without my husband, and his parents have to say goodbye to their child.
00:24:12.000How many more police officers and how many more families need to make the ultimate sacrifice before we start protecting them?
00:25:52.000It's going on right now in our country, and we need to finally say that enough is enough.
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00:30:50.000Jack, I want to start by asking you, where did the book start for you?
00:30:55.000And what was the motivation in actually writing it?
00:30:58.000I know you've talked about it for a long time, but what makes you put pen to paper and get into the details?
00:31:02.000Sure. Sure. So this was based on a series of podcasts that I'd put together for Human Events Daily over the Christmas break over the past couple of years.
00:31:10.000And what we do is usually we take the Christmas break.
00:31:13.000You know, I'm not trying to do daily shows.
00:32:56.000And it's about the fact that they were unsuccessful in life.
00:32:59.000And so rather than actually try to do something to better their own lot or better the communities, their own neighborhoods, they would rather tear down people who have been successful.
00:33:09.000And Don, I just got to say it with everything that's going on with your father and your family's business right now.
00:33:14.000It is exactly textbook classic communist tactics that have been brought into a neo-communist, neo-Bolshevik phase.
00:33:23.000And what this is, it's state-sponsored theft going after one of the most high-profile real estate developers the same way they've always gone after the landowners and the people who have been successful in every single one of these instances.
00:33:37.000Yeah, I mean, it definitely repeats itself.
00:33:39.000You always kind of figure out, like, what's their endgame, right?
00:33:50.000You know, I get it's about power and voting, but, like, when your communities and your homes are going to be raided and terrorized, like, what's the endgame?
00:33:58.000And maybe Joshua, like, what are the signs?
00:34:01.000That a communist revolution is happening or will happen, whether it's here in the U.S. or where it's sort of a precursor to what happens around the world.
00:34:11.000And I guess while these radicals are sort of motivated by communist ideas, they're also backed by major billionaires, people who've done incredibly well with capitalism, people who are certainly not giving any of that up.
00:34:25.000You know, and that endless amounts of money, which is, again, sort of ironic.
00:34:30.000Is it just about hoarding that power for themselves once they've attained it?
00:34:33.000They just want to put up the roadblock and make sure no one else gets there?
00:34:37.000Yes, there's myriad factors taking place both in the funding of the communist revolution or what we're seeing now in the United States, which is an irregular communist revolution in which these sort of micro-revolts are led against specific individuals in order to neutralize them.
00:34:52.000They don't necessarily have to murder them in a high-profile way with waving the red flags and there being blood in the streets as in revolutions in the past.
00:35:02.000Now they're mostly satisfied with neutralizing them.
00:35:06.000Canceling them, for example, bankrupting them, for example, and in some cases driving their target to suicide.
00:35:13.000The objective of the neo-communist revolution, the sort of 2.0, is to take out people that they envy.
00:35:19.000Now, what sort of envy do we mean here?
00:35:23.000This gets to your other question about how we can tell one is coming.
00:35:27.000There's a military term called the operational preparation of the environment, one that, of course, Jack is familiar with.
00:35:34.000And in OPE, this is before an operation is launched.
00:35:39.000In the case of military, this is before troops go on the ground.
00:36:19.000Old classic Marxism was socioeconomic warfare of the classes, bourgeois versus proletariat.
00:36:25.000There was the obvious haves and have-nots.
00:36:28.000There was the peasant, and there was the entrepreneur.
00:36:30.000There was the laborer, and there was the management of it, right?
00:36:34.000But in our environment, it's a bit different, because in free market capitalism, any have-not can become a have with relatively little work, frankly, in today's day and age.
00:37:06.000So what the forces of anti-civilization do...
00:37:12.000Every single time to prepare the environment is they first separate who's going to be with us and who are we going to attack?
00:37:21.000Who are we going to attempt to neutralize?
00:37:24.000And so we see how institutions that have endured the long march of cultural Marxists, they have officially sided with And they've allowed the infiltration of the oppressed classes.
00:37:39.000Now, you don't have to be literally oppressed.
00:37:41.000If, for example, you can say you're, or you can be, a member of a group, let's say black Americans, African Americans, let's say gay people, for example.
00:37:51.000If you can point to past oppression having happened to you in the past, then you can become, ironically, a beneficiary of Of that past oppression.
00:38:02.000Even if you have not experienced any oppression, and in fact you've been a beneficiary of, let's say, affirmative action.
00:38:08.000Let's say you have had more opportunity given to you than to others.
00:38:14.000You can still claim membership in this oppressed class.
00:38:18.000And so this separation, this operational preparation of our environment for an irregular communist revolution has been taking place since at least the 1960s.
00:38:27.000And we detail this process, of course, in the book.
00:38:31.000Jack, I know you write about it a lot, but what is the thing about communists that people don't understand?
00:38:37.000You talk about sort of the one thing that people don't quite get because it's not necessarily intuitive.
00:38:43.000So the one thing that most people don't get, and we get into this a ton in the book, whether you're a conservative, whether you're a liberal, you know, the good liberal, I'm sure there's some good liberals still out there, whether you're a centrist, you know, centrist, you're one of these middle-of-the-road guys, or even you're just someone who's not into politics, right?
00:39:03.000You usually assume, most people assume that other folks who are involved in politics get involved with the political process with good intentions.
00:39:11.000And most people cast their good intentions on their political opponents and say, I've got good intentions.
00:39:18.000Therefore, the person across the aisle from me must also have good intentions.
00:39:26.000We disagree on the policies that we have higher taxes, lower taxes.
00:39:29.000We have more programs or less programs, that sort of thing.
00:39:32.000What people get wrong about communists, and this is why we say that communists and today's cultural Marxists have embraced unhumanity, is that they don't have good intentions actually.
00:39:43.000They aren't interested in making society better.
00:39:46.000They're actually interested in making society worse.
00:39:52.000They want society to be brought down low.
00:39:54.000And people will ask the question all the time, they say, How can people still support communism if communism has killed 100 million people around the world?
00:40:01.000And I always point out you're asking the wrong question.
00:40:03.000They would say from their perspective that 100 million people died is just a good start.
00:40:09.000That's just a good start to the body piles and to the body count.
00:40:12.000And their goal is to increase it because they will say those people were against the revolution.
00:40:17.000Those people were – and you can think of the names.
00:40:19.000They were racist. They were patriarchy.
00:40:20.000They were white supremacists. We heard this.
00:40:26.000Even in the Chinese Cultural Revolution, which apparently this new Netflix show actually depicts for the first time they snuck it in there.
00:40:32.000One of the main things, and you see these videos of people with the card around their neck, the placard around their neck, and they're in these great stadiums surrounded by the chanting red guards holding up Mao's little red book.
00:40:46.000And because I spent time in China, because I speak Mandarin, if you read the placard under their names, that's their crime.
00:40:54.000So that's the crime they've been charged with.
00:40:55.000And there's no court. You're looking at the court, right?
00:40:58.000It's not too far off from the Manhattan courts today, by the way.
00:41:01.000Yeah, exactly. And we also get into in the book the French Revolutionary Courts, which guillotine was basically this or this, for the revolution, against the revolution.
00:41:11.000One of the charges, one of the most common charges these guys would get, and all the time, it was always priests, it was landowners, small business owners.
00:41:19.000One of the crimes they would get was being labeled as a quote-unquote right-wing extremist.
00:41:26.000This is exact communist nomenclature from the Chinese Communist Party, from the Cultural Revolution, which was a revolution in a revolution.
00:41:35.000You have to get the book. I can explain all that later.
00:41:39.000The phrase right-wing extremist has been used by communists to go after and mislabel normal people, successful people, people who in many cases aren't even interested in politics and going after them.
00:41:51.000And I think, I hope, I just hope, that if we can get people, and particularly conservatives, to understand That these guys, they don't care about double standards.
00:42:02.000They don't care about, oh, we've called them out for their hypocrisy.
00:42:05.000Oh, they're not giving us equal treatment.
00:42:07.000They don't want to give you equal treatment.
00:42:42.000If they get what they want in the end, all of...
00:42:45.000When we talk about... They scream about democracy, and they scream about fascism, while...
00:42:50.000Trampling on democracy and acting like fascists.
00:42:53.000They don't even appreciate the irony, but they have such large megaphones, whether it's big tech, whether it's the mainstream media, they have such a censorship apparatus that it doesn't matter.
00:43:05.000And the only thing I can say that I feel good about what's going on right now is it's so extreme.
00:43:10.000The pendulum has overcorrected so much that regular people are like, wait a minute, I'm supposed to believe my lying eyes.
00:43:21.000Right. And maybe Joshua can take this one, but my contention and I should say our contention in Unhumans and the book, by the way, just for everybody watching this, it's up on sale right now on Amazon because of the huge volume.
00:43:34.000We're in the top 30 on all of Amazon, which is really surprising.
00:43:37.000I have no idea if people wanted to hear this much about the history of communism, but apparently I think people are starting to get it, that it's on discount right now, $17.99.
00:43:46.000But the question is, Will it end on its own?
00:44:05.000When we went back and we looked at the various communist revolutions and even governments that came about, we asked ourselves, what did it take to defeat them?
00:44:12.000Well, the first defeat of communism is, we like to call it, the Ouroboros option.
00:44:18.000That, of course, is the symbol of the snake eating itself.
00:44:21.000And here in the West, we have the term that the left always eats its own, the left eats itself.
00:44:25.000And this is true. Every single time communists were not stopped in the revolution, eventually they stopped themselves.
00:44:32.000Whether it was in the Soviet Union or in other revolutions or perhaps...
00:44:37.000In a dark, comedic way, during the Spanish Civil War, you had the wrong kind of communists being rounded up and executed by their own.
00:44:46.000There were devotees of Leon Trotsky, the contemporary of Joseph Stalin, who was the wrong kind of a communist.
00:44:52.000So you had actual communist revolutionary soldiers being arrested and then shot by their fellow communists.
00:45:57.000Well, there is the strong man, the great man of history, the one who, to repurpose a famous quote of Generalissimo Francisco Franco, wherever I am there will be no communism.
00:46:11.000Someone with the iron resolve of Franco, or in the context of a proto-communist revolution that Julius Caesar put down, or we could pick apart his methods, but Pinochet in South America.
00:46:27.000These are men who said, no, full stop, no, not going to happen, not on my watch.
00:46:31.000And of course we had that in the cultural Marxist context of the 1950s and 60s with Senator Joseph McCarthy, who was making a list and checking it twice, who was isolating those people who were subversives in the United States government and media and elsewhere.
00:46:49.000And unfortunately, in McCarthy's case, he was slowed down and brought to a halt.
00:46:53.000But that is one of the strategies, is when someone says no.
00:46:57.000And any one of us can be that one who says no.
00:47:00.000We can choose to be in our village, our town, our county, our city, whether it's a county sheriff, it could be a prosecutor, it could be a governor, it could be a state senator, it could be an entrepreneur, it could be someone like Elon Musk, who says no, wherever I am, there will be no unhumans.
00:47:19.000So, Josh, I mean, this is really, I mean, the book is a toolbook on how Americans can be informed and actually fight back.
00:47:25.000You know, what will the readers learn about doing just that?
00:47:29.000Because you talk about, you know, I think Elon, whether, you know, honestly, maybe Trump, some of these guys that are fighting back against these kind of things, that whether it's a direct fight, whether it's just sort of the undue attacks, you know, someone who's loved one minute and then attacked the next minute because he took on Even a minor aspect of, you know, the mandatory talking points and, you know, of today's radical left, you know, what do you learn in the toolbook?
00:48:22.000How does the regular person fight back?
00:48:24.000What can they learn to be able to do that or at least be able to help?
00:48:28.000Yes, the best way to neutralize the forces of anti-civilization should they come for you is to turn the tables on them.
00:48:35.000And what communists do or Marxists, socialists, progressists, whatever they call themselves in any context, whatever they call themselves when they come for you, is to prepare your own environment for operation.
00:49:11.000It's time to do something for yourself in your own world, in your own career, in your own town or city, in your county, in your jurisdiction.
00:49:19.000Do you know the names of the chief of police, your county sheriff, the sheriff's deputies, the prosecutor?
00:49:39.000If you're doxed, if you're debanked, if you're deplatformed, Are you going to be okay?
00:49:45.000So these are specific things that every single person who may not be high profile, and therefore have the benefits of a high profile person, there are specific things that they can do, even if they're an everyman.
00:49:59.000And of course, it's the everyman, the eight to five, Wage earner, salaried professional who seems least likely to be targeted, but yet they're the most vulnerable.
00:50:09.000If you're successful, if you're hardworking, if you're law-abiding, if you're, let's say, if you're a white Christian male, for example, then guess what?
00:50:18.000You're an oppressor. You're in the class that has been condemned to being robbed and to being killed.
00:50:24.000And this is over the last 250 years of communist revolutions.
00:50:29.000So no matter how good you are, how nice you are, that's no defense whatsoever.
00:50:34.000Now speaking of what defense is going to work is the one thing that unhumans cannot stand.
00:50:39.000It is their bane. It is their kryptonite.
00:50:46.000Making fun of them, mocking them, humiliating them, pointing and laughing with all your mates, that causes them to shrivel up and go find someone somewhere else to play with.
00:50:58.000Yeah, and it feels like there's a great opportunity for that.
00:51:00.000You're right. I mean, I poke a lot of fun at it.
00:51:02.000It's what goes viral, you know, years.
00:51:05.000I mean, I was one of the early guys sort of making fun of like the trans women in sports kind of thing.
00:51:09.000And, you know, even on Twitter, like Twitter 1.0, which was like, you know, let's call it a 95.5 battlefield.
00:51:14.000You weren't going to give it up. But like, you know, people would get on there and I'm laughing about it and making a joke.
00:51:19.000And they're like... Man, I hate your guts, Don Jr., but you're actually right about this.
00:51:24.000I can't believe I'm agreeing with Don Jr.
00:51:27.000on anything. So it does feel like that, and it feels to me like we're also at a place where The things that you'd laugh about.
00:51:35.000Nomenclature. Words that would literally have gotten you cancelled two years ago for simply uttering.
00:51:40.000Stuff that was part of our vernacular growing up.
00:51:42.000Maybe a little bit older but all sort of in the similar age range.
00:51:49.000Would have gotten you cancelled two years ago.
00:51:51.000You see those terms just coming back and people don't care anymore.
00:51:54.000So it does feel like there's an opportunity there.
00:51:56.000What do you think? The other – if I can hop in, the other piece of it is in addition to mockery is – which is good by the way because mockery brings people to your side.
00:52:08.000Mockery is one of those things laughing and people who are having a good time.
00:52:11.000Nobody wants to be with the people at the party who are like scolding everybody and the people who are always saying stop having fun.
00:52:17.000People want to be with the side who are laughing and having a good time and – That clearly these days is the MAGA side, is the right, quote-unquote, or just the normals.
00:52:28.000I think at this point just the normal people.
00:52:30.000But the other piece of this is a word that conservatives for many years have been very scared of and a word that it doesn't even fit into their constitutional fortitude, and that's the word reciprocity.
00:52:46.000The idea that reciprocity, doing to them that which they do unto us and taking action because this is the only thing that the cultural Marxist actually fears is number one, being identified.
00:53:00.000That's number one. So being called out because the communist does not want anyone to find out who they really are.
00:53:05.000So basic things like pointing out Matthew Colangelo, who is this guy who had been the same person that was suing the Trump administration, then going to the DOJ, then going to Letitia James' office, and now finds himself in Alvin Bragg's office in every single one of the lawsuits, the civil suits, and now the criminal charges against President Trump.
00:53:28.000And it's like the same guy is running all of this?
00:53:42.000They fear any of it being actually turned on them.
00:53:45.000And that's why whenever you or anybody calls out like a journalist for lying or – which is all they do really.
00:53:52.000How do you know a journalist is lying?
00:53:53.000Because they're writing something that – That identifying them and turning any of the screws to them is the opposite of what they're supposed to want.
00:54:03.000So they will say – they will immediately scream, this is harassment.
00:54:06.000They will scream, you are targeting me.
00:54:08.000They will scream – they will claim that they're getting death threats even though there aren't any actual death threats that they ever show you.
00:54:14.000But there's a reason for it because they are terrified of just one frappe.
00:54:20.000One fraction of that amount of pressure being actually put on them.
00:54:26.000And that is what the right needs to embrace because I keep hearing this over and over.
00:54:29.000Even with the title of our book, we had people coming out saying, whoa, guys, on humans, that's a little mean.
00:54:37.000Don, could you imagine what would happen if we start calling the left...
00:55:01.000I have another one. It's called let's fight fire with fire.
00:55:03.000So, I always say, you know, we play football, they play hardball, they laugh as, you know, they win, you know, democracy, all these, there are soundbites that they laugh about as they trample, you know, all of these things.
00:55:14.000That said, I mean, there is a component of, you know, as conservatives, what we believe in, you know, are we going to break the law to do that?
00:55:24.000I mean, they're clearly violating any of the rules and norms and decency and the Constitution on a daily basis.
00:55:30.000What is that line, though, where you just actually end up with chaos because there are no rules anymore?
00:55:37.000Well, that's right. And we don't certainly advocate for breaking the law or violence or anything like that in the book.
00:55:43.000It's basically like forming networks of people, networks of men, networks of moms that are out there and banding together.
00:55:53.000Now, obviously, there's different levels to this when we break it out in the end of the book.
00:55:57.000where and Joshua is actually just put together such an incredible system
00:56:02.000because I had the history side but Joshua had the the system side to all of it and and a system to
00:56:09.000derail cultural Marxism derail all of it at multiple levels all at once but we've got
00:56:15.000we've got the highest level that That's sort of the great men of means level.
00:56:18.000And the great men of means – look, not everybody can go and found a truth social or lead a movement to take back America electorally or purchase X or found a rumble like Chris Pawlowski and the great team have done.
00:56:34.000And all of those people and everyone dealing with the parallel economy, Mike Seifert and the guys over at Public Square, of course, that's key.
00:56:42.000And everyone at the lower levels needs to be supporting those guys at all times, period, full stop.
00:56:48.000That's number one. But then for people who are at the institutional level, we've got to start re-infiltrating.
00:56:53.000We cannot allow the institutions, not all of them, some of the institutions, yeah, okay, we're going to have to get rid of them.
00:56:59.000But other ones, we can re-infiltrate and re-take over.
00:57:03.000And this is actually something that I've argued for the military for a long time because a lot of people come to me and say, hey, should I stay in?
00:57:08.000Should I get out? And I know you know a lot of guys who are serving.
00:57:14.000I say if you can. If you can stay in, stay in, because we're going to need good people in there when we're on the other side of this.
00:57:21.000And then finally, at the lower level, you need people forming those networks to just make a decision, whether it's your community, whether it's your neighborhood, whether it's your parish, whether it's your church, to say, I'm going to be against this stuff.
00:57:33.000And we've seen the moms already fighting back in the school boards.
00:57:38.000It's literally just taking any action at all.
00:57:41.000Don't just complain. Don't just sit there on Twitter and social media.
00:57:45.000Look, I'm guilty of this as much as anybody else.
00:57:47.000You and I, we've got to be a little careful how we say that.
00:58:29.000And we actually argue, and maybe Joshua can explain this a little more, that what we're in right now, we refer to it as essentially an irregular revolution.
00:58:39.000Because in the same way that warfare has changed over the years, second generation, third generation, okay?
00:58:44.000You don't have like the troops that line up on the field and shoot each other in formation like it's the Civil War or the revolution anymore.
00:58:52.000There's a reason why you can walk down the street and like things seem kind of normal, things seem kind of fine.
00:58:58.000But, you know, or if you do like I like to, you know, I walk around D.C. with Tanya and the kids and I'll just be walking down the street and go, hey, Trump won!
00:59:07.000I've been doing it on livestream every once in a while.
00:59:09.000I did it at the Jefferson Memorial the other day during the Cherry Blossom Festival.
00:59:13.000And you can see just the anger and the rage and the emotional contortions that get off on people and their faces.
00:59:21.000And this is because they have been put into this Cultural Marxist framework of believing that everyone is oppressed or isn't oppressed and within this irregular revolution that we find ourselves in, and it certainly is a cultural revolution form, that micro-revolutions, and this is a concept people need to understand as well.
00:59:46.000revolution can be launched every day. We could launch one against Don Jr. right now. So they've
00:59:51.000attempted many micro revolutions against you. They could launch one against against or they launched
00:59:54.000one against me the other day because I said the I put oh yeah I put up the picture of the um of
00:59:59.000the bridge that collapsed and I said at least your grandchildren will know you fought racism.
01:00:03.000Yeah well no they went after you like 10 days ago.
01:00:07.000You didn't understand what I was saying. You were speaking at CPAC, clearly being sarcastic, and it was like, oh my god, Paul Sobek said that!
01:00:12.000I'm like, there's not a sane person in the world that watched what you said and didn't know that, I mean, you're literally just trolling, and it's like, you know, but they do that, right?
01:00:24.000They take something that's a verbal skit, they change the punctuation, they put it in print, this is what he said!
01:00:30.000said it's like yeah but like everyone knows that's not what he said like you
01:00:33.000know or like the other day or any any of these things any of these things and the
01:00:37.000reason these are done we call them micro revolutions for a reason it's because
01:00:42.000they are done in an attempt to increase the revolutionary fervor of their own
01:00:47.000followers and supporters against that individual because that individual has
01:00:52.000decided to be a target so either either they will use it to target an individual
01:00:56.000or increase the power of someone on their own side Joshua do you want to
01:00:59.000to chime in on micro revolutions and that tactic.
01:01:03.000Yes, the reason micro-revolutions can be incited so quickly in a matter of minutes via our social media tools is because, speaking of OPE, again, the mental environment has already been prepared.
01:01:18.000One of the keys of OPE, besides separating, okay, who are we going to be with us?
01:01:28.000What are the quick little slogans and quips and labels that we're going to use so that people know it's okay for us to do what we're doing?
01:01:38.000For example, the right wing extremist, right wing watch, far right, alt right.
01:01:44.000Any of that sort of manipulative language that tells people what to think and how to feel about it.
01:01:48.000And I have a series on Twitter, now X, where I point out the propaganda that is consistently put out by Western journalists to prepare the mental environment for these little micro-revolts.
01:02:02.000Yeah, you see... By the way, I see that all the time.
01:02:04.000It's like something happens. It's not even a big deal.
01:02:26.000And all of a sudden... Everyone's saying the same thing as though it's the gospel, even though it's just a coordinated effort by people with reasonably large followings all saying basically the same thing.
01:02:38.000It's not like someone saw this and did it.
01:02:39.000Someone got an email, cut and paste, basically the thought, and everyone's saying the same thing.
01:02:45.000It's really contrived if you get it all in volume.
01:02:48.000but if you're just sort of getting it piecemeal little by little it actually has the effect of I guess what it's
01:02:52.000intended to do which is you know create that
01:02:55.000You know adverse feelings towards whether it's Republicans or whatever is going on
01:03:00.000Yes, and the key is that it needs to seem reasonable otherwise to normies
01:03:06.000Recall that the reason Vladimir Lenin and the Bolsheviks were able to gain the support that they got in 1917, 1918, and beyond was their slogan, Peace, Land, Bread.
01:03:20.000That means no war, solve the former serfdom problem that hadn't quite been resolved yet, and of course make sure there's plenty of food for everybody.
01:03:48.000I watched the meltdown this week when they simply reduced the bond, which is still a number that's unheard of for, you know, a victimless, you know, because it doesn't matter.
01:04:39.000Even though there is this mass manipulation strategy that has been at work for at least three generations now amongst the West and particularly Americans, enough people are waking up from gelman amnesia.
01:04:53.000And for those unfamiliar, gelman amnesia is where, let's say you're reading a headline on CNN or on Fox or NPR or wherever, and you're looking at it and then you realize...
01:05:03.000Something is said about your industry or about someone you know personally, and you think, but that's not right.
01:05:09.000That's wrong. And then you read the next headline and assume it's right.
01:05:13.000And it was just that one thing that was wrong.
01:05:16.000For example, there's been both malicious and honest mistakes that have been printed and published about me over the years.
01:05:24.000And once you had that happen to you, you can't take anything else seriously that ever happens.
01:05:29.000But most people, the NPR Americans, this doesn't happen to them.
01:05:35.000But enough people are, whether it's with vaccines, for example, and all of the propaganda that was behind that machine, or it's around elections, or it's around crime, squatters, for example, and with a lot of people who are Democrats who know how lending works, mortgages, loans, that sort of world, seeing what's been happening to your father, President Trump.
01:06:02.000The amount of texts I get from leftist New York bankers and stuff like that, I think it was an interesting phenomenon.
01:06:08.000I saw this for the first time from some of the biggest funders of the left.
01:06:13.000Guys like Bill Ackman, who's a big financier, billionaire New York guy, but funded Hillary, Biden, all the Democrats for years.
01:06:20.000It was interesting. When Kyle Rittenhouse was going through his trial, he got on Twitter before they started going after him for speaking out against Harvard and all that stuff and his wife.
01:06:30.000But he got on there. He's like, wait a minute.
01:06:32.000You mean this guy's not actually a white supremacist?
01:07:16.000But then I'd turn the page, and I'd read another article about something
01:07:19.000that I was not a subject matter expert, and I just assumed it to be true,
01:07:22.000whereas I should have just assumed that it was all bullshit,
01:07:24.000like the stuff that they were talking about me.
01:07:26.000And so there does seem to be a little bit of an awakening.
01:07:31.000That's a perfect example of Gelman amnesia applied.
01:07:35.000So Bill Ackman is a guy who obviously has suddenly had this – maybe gradually and then suddenly had this awakening and is now coming online to realize that we need – who's, by the way, not a guy of the right by any means.
01:07:48.000I think he's funding like random Democrat people.
01:08:37.000We're going to have government by expert. We're going to have people who actually matter
01:08:42.000in positions of power. And the New York Times sent over a reporter named Walter Durante,
01:08:49.000who went to Ukraine and many of these other places, who saw the famine conditions,
01:08:54.000saw the famine conditions in Ukraine, the Holodomor, and saw, and really the famine
01:08:57.000that was all over Russia, predicated on the basis of these insane, false, scientific,
01:09:03.000pseudoscience beliefs called Lysenkoism, and he lied about it. He just straight up lied about it.
01:09:08.000He said, it's great, everything, everyone loves it. It's wonderful, covers up the atrocities,
01:09:12.000covers up the purges, covers up everything. So you have this system where people always say,
01:09:17.000the history is always written by the victors, but it's like with communism, for some reason,
01:09:23.000history is written by the losers, just because all the writers are on that side,
01:09:27.000basically, and all the people from that class are on that side.
01:09:30.000And so, they've written this entirely false history about communism, and really about the 20th century, that we've all believed for forever.
01:10:02.000But then you also realize that there were other things that happened in the 20th century that we totally overlook.
01:10:07.000And this, by and large, is communism and the remit and the consequences of communism and the way that it still affects our world today.
01:10:16.000And hopefully, with this book, we can put it together and actually explain to some people what's actually been going on in many of these places that has led to the situation we find ourselves in today.
01:10:28.000Yeah, so Jack, I mean, to take that a little bit further, I guess, how does all of that relate to the chaos and war we're seeing abroad right now, right?
01:10:35.000You follow the war in Ukraine, obviously, very closely.
01:10:38.000How close are we to, like, nuclear war with Russia?
01:10:42.000You know, the sort of blind funding of these things that we haven't...
01:10:46.000Listen, I follow this stuff pretty closely.
01:10:47.000I've yet to see anyone articulate what victory looks like other than perhaps...
01:10:52.000The genocide of the entire Russian population.
01:10:56.000I guess a guy that was an actor in a previously more corrupt country than Russia by our own metrics.
01:11:06.000How should this be analyzed in the context of the book?
01:11:10.000Because it seems like we're talking about those parts of the world pretty extensively, but it's sort of happening again.
01:11:15.000So we talk about the Cold War a lot in the book, and we talk about the Cold War in the sense that it was, of course, this competition between the forces of democracy and Western society against the forces of international communism.
01:11:31.000The communists were going around funding these revolutions all over the world just using
01:11:35.000money they had looted from the Russian treasury, the imperial treasury, and then use that to
01:12:18.000This has actually become – so in the West, the reason that – and George Kennan, which Joshua mentioned, had written this policy and said, well, we need to contain it.
01:12:27.000We need to contain communism and make sure it's an over there problem so it doesn't become an over here problem.
01:12:32.000And then Joseph McCarthy goes and does what he does and HUAC. And by the way, RFK's father was part of Joseph McCarthy's original committee, so I actually worked on this.
01:12:41.000So this was not like a Republican-Democrat thing.
01:12:46.000The communists of the past were the expansionist power and they were led by Russia pushing everything else, pushing their ideology around the world.
01:13:00.000These days, it's not the Russians who are pushing their ideology on the world.
01:13:05.000It's us. It's the neoliberal West who are pushing our, and when I say our, I guess I mean I would say the lefts, these left-wing neoliberal values on places like, oh, we're going to go to Afghanistan and we're going to have LGBT parades in Kabul.
01:13:23.000It's going to be wonderful. Here's $20 billion to Pakistan for trans programs.
01:13:27.000I'm like, I don't know. It doesn't seem like it.
01:14:30.000We're the ones who are pushing out further into places where people just want to be left alone or at least would rather prefer to have some kind of peace deal in place.
01:14:40.000So maybe a question for both of you guys before we wrap up, which is where has the right gone wrong in the past as it relates to sort of combating this American Marxism and corruption?
01:14:52.000How much of it is a policy problem versus a messaging problem?
01:14:57.000It seems to be a purity test problem, if I had to describe it.
01:15:01.000And that is—and we've even seen this the past week, Jack and I, with various factions, both Christian and secular, on the right, having different bones to pick with the title of Unhumans and the concept of reciprocity, getting angered by the fact that anything that's not turning the other cheek is not Christ-like, for example. Yeah, well, you saw them with going crazy.
01:15:25.000He's going to try to— Like, the projection of, like, what, like, aren't you guys the guy doing it?
01:15:31.000No, no, no, but Trump said you'd be in jail.
01:15:32.000I go, Trump made a quip, like, in a debate that was a great soundbite, but, like, then didn't do any of those things.
01:15:38.000But you fear that he's going to do the things that you are actively doing because you understand just how bad it is that you got to create this whole, I mean, they literally tried making the election.
01:15:49.000I think we shut it down pretty quickly.
01:15:50.000Like, have you looked at what you are doing?
01:15:53.000And then that sort of went away, but it didn't stop him trying desperately for about a two-week period to say that Trump's the guy that's going to be doing that.
01:15:59.000He's going to trample democracy in the process, yada, yada, yada.
01:16:03.000That's right. It seems all too easy for discord to be sown amongst conservatives and not so much coalition building, which needs to take place.
01:16:12.000Now the reason that Peter Rangel of the White Army that was in opposition to the Bolsheviks, the reason he admitted in his memoir, Always With Honor, that the anti-communists failed is that they were not organized, neither were they unanimous.
01:16:26.000You had multiple generals who wanted to do things their way.
01:16:28.000They wanted to be the one who called the shots.
01:16:30.000They wanted to follow their own strategy.
01:16:32.000And because of that infighting, they were not able to have an overwhelming, unanimous, organized response.
01:16:38.000And we see a similar issue with conservatives, both in the Republican Party and out of it, amongst Christians, amongst Catholics, Protestants.
01:16:46.000It seems like there's this perpetual purity test of what's a real conservative or I'm
01:16:51.000the one who speaks for conservative values or I'm the one who's the best defenders of
01:17:19.000That appeals to the fringes of society, and you're instantly able to round people up.
01:17:24.000This is how Vladimir Lenin started, by the way, is looking at the underclasses of society and recruiting from there.
01:17:29.000That's where the message of violence was most able to be—it was most fertile.
01:17:35.000That was the most fertile, I must say, psychic messaging space.
01:17:39.000Whereas with conservatives, I think what the right and the center, and I like to call them
01:17:44.000gently farmers market liberals, I would say that they're allies in the fight against communism.
01:17:50.000What all of them collectively need to understand is the time and season in which we live.
01:17:54.000And what the book is intended to do outside of selling a whole lot of coffees, of course,
01:18:00.000and being commercially successful, is to be culturally successful.
01:18:03.000It's for this to be a civilization-changing message to help people understand, to wake up from the normie stupor that, oh, wait, we are so far past Being called mean or not nice.
01:18:18.000I think that's right. I think there's an incredible window to get some of those people, you know, the independent, the non-insane liberals, what's left.
01:18:27.000And again, in our country right now, you get a couple points of those, that's it.
01:18:30.000And you can actually do some damage because I think, you know, reasonable people are looking at what's going on and they're getting that, whether they, you know, again, it's not even a factor of Trump, but whether they like Trump or conservatives or not, like reasonable people who otherwise probably wouldn't are like, Okay, society, civilization as we know it is over if we don't do something about this and the track we're on, which is scary, but again, I think it creates a great window for us.
01:18:53.000Jack, where can people find the book again just so they can make sure that everyone can get it and check it out and start putting these practices into place?
01:19:12.000So we're just overwhelmed with the support that we've received early on in this thing.
01:19:16.000We only announced it about a week ago now.
01:19:19.000But also Barnes& Noble, Skyhorse Publishing.
01:19:21.000People can get it at a variety of places because I'll throw out the Amazon link and then I'll get like maybe like 20% of the replies will say, I don't want to put money in Jeff Bezos' pocket.
01:19:30.000There's probably some bookstores on Public Square.
01:19:32.000There's probably bookstores on Public Square.
01:19:36.000You know what I mean? We should figure that out.
01:19:38.000I started a publishing company because it was so biased in this thing.
01:19:45.000That's how insane it is, but it's good to see you were published by someone else because, like a lot of the people we've published, it was like, they get a book, they get a deal, they get a this, and then they're like, yeah, we're just not going to put it out anymore.
01:19:54.000It's like... So, you know, that's what we're up against.
01:19:57.000So it's important. So, you know, guys, please go check out the book.
01:20:03.000Preach it. You know, get it out there.
01:20:05.000Let's all fight back. Joshua, Jack, thank you so much for being here.
01:20:09.000Really appreciate your guys' time and that you're taking the effort to actually, you know, be engaged at this level and put out that sort of roadmap for how we combat the nonsense.
01:20:18.000Thank you so much, Don. I really appreciate it.
01:20:20.000Thanks, Don. My pleasure. Guys, that was great.