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00:07:21.000Well guys, joining me now, the host of War Room, the one and only Steve Bannon.
00:09:01.000I mean, I... As brutal as it's been for the last four years, and man, I used to think it was like, DJT and me is the most heavily persecuted.
00:09:26.000For me, all of the insanity of the last four years is actually totally worth it because I think we actually have a chance to do it right this time, right?
00:09:35.000If we won in 2020, and I don't think anyone actually believes we didn't actually win in 2020 at this point, especially looking at the numbers and everything, the way it rolled out, but If we just rolled over those same, you know, guys, many of them Washington, D.C., bureaucrats, diffs, because we didn't know any better.
00:09:56.000If you just rolled over the 2020, 2016 to 2020 crew into, you know, 20 to 24, I don't think we got nearly as much as we can get done as we do today with a clear mandate starting from scratch with all of this.
00:12:04.000We won't get into the names, because it doesn't really matter.
00:12:07.000But like, yeah, no, it's a little bit nuts.
00:12:12.000But that's why this time is very different.
00:12:13.000You can tell the whole feeling down in Mar-a-Lago, the focus, the intensity, the brilliance of the different picks, you know, this whole going after the administrative state, whether you got Bobby Kennedy or Tulsi Gabbard, the mix and match of not just Democrats and Republicans, those are old terms, the populist nationalist direction, the America First direction.
00:12:34.000This is why it's a whole different deal and everything just gets better.
00:12:39.000You know, with every day we go on and people got it.
00:12:42.000By the way, we still have huge fights.
00:12:43.000You know, Pete had a string last week and now Joni Ernst is on board.
00:13:06.000And it was like, man, there was a time I'm like, how do we get this over the line?
00:13:10.000And then what was great was like, literally, like the people watching this right now, the people who watch War Room were like, no, this is bullshit.
00:13:19.000Like, we're not going to let the media publishing, you know, Anonymous sources say all these things when literally everyone who was there on the record, the people who were willing to put their names out there, are saying otherwise.
00:13:31.000And it was ugly, but some of those people who were getting wishy-washy, I call it ETP. Education through pain.
00:13:42.000It's like, you know, the beatings will continue until morale or, you know, consensus improves.
00:13:48.000And it was regular people, the guys that watch my show, your show, you know, like this band of America First Patriots, they went nuts online.
00:13:56.000They started calling these people out.
00:14:38.000He wants Hexeth, he wants cash, he gets cash in Hexeth, right?
00:14:41.000And Tulsi, and Kristi Noem, and the whole thing.
00:14:45.000So it's just, this is why I think we just got to power through this.
00:14:48.000And I'm a big advocate of Swear them in on January 3rd and on the 4th and 5th, everybody goes up, get your committees ready, and let's get the confirmations and have it all done by January 20th.
00:15:06.000Now, I think we've, you know, and I've been a big part of, you know, trying to make sure it's not just four years of Trump, but that we actually have A runway of those same populists, right?
00:15:16.000I think JD's been an absolute rock star in that.
00:15:18.000But, like, others are emerging where we actually have a bench this time, which is so critical.
00:15:25.000Because I don't want it to be four years of Trump, and then it's like back to business as usual.
00:15:29.000I think that's part of why the swamp was rebelling as much as they did, because they're like, okay, fine, we'll do four years.
00:15:35.000It's a drop in a bucket relative to what we're used to as 50-year Washington, D.C. bureaucrats.
00:15:51.000And here's one of the things I think you see it happening already.
00:15:53.000Because I think the doge with OMB is one of the most brilliant.
00:15:56.000This is going to be one of President Trump's most lasting accomplishments.
00:15:59.000The deconstruction of the administrative state and do it in a smart way.
00:16:02.000And everybody up here is running around spending all their time on passing the NDAA, which locks in a $1 trillion defense budget before President Trump actually shows up.
00:16:30.000And people have to understand, last week, the call to action for the audience to come up, the audience of all these different shows and people to sit there, it was the sovereign will of the people that spoke and said, hey, by the way, Republican establishment and media, we have President Trump's back, okay?
00:17:05.000I'm much more involved this time around because I want to make sure we surround those people.
00:17:08.000And I think I've gotten to know the players really well over the last eight years, who's real, who's fake, who's trustworthy, who's not, who's going to, you know, who won't just fall to the pressures of the swamp, you know.
00:17:18.000As someone who was inside then, perhaps a little more outside now, but obviously I think you and I have generally been pretty damn aligned in terms of mentality on these things.
00:17:29.000Compare what you're seeing in this transition versus what was going on in 2016. What do you see going right, and where do you think we have work to do still?
00:17:41.000And I do think in the 16, because if you look at what was accomplished in 17, set the predicate, particularly the tax cuts, VA, other things on deregulation, set the predicate for the golden years of 18 and 19. This last campaign really came down, as President Trump says, immigration, the border, and groceries.
00:17:58.000The golden years, you talk to blacks and Hispanics, they said, hey, I want to go back to 18 and 19. That was an economy that worked for me.
00:18:04.000You know, blue collar wages increasing higher than white collar, non-college graduates.
00:18:09.000That is kind of the little mini golden age we had.
00:18:12.000A lot of that was laid in the transition that came in, you had to execute in 17. What I like about this, it's a much, this is a much bigger economy.
00:18:21.000President Trump, at least the way I view it and I've been around it, he's less engaged in the day-to-day and more back overseeing the whole kind of, not just chessboard, but the whole everything from geopolitics and the war to the budget and the economy to what's happening to immigration.
00:18:36.000He's got a very big purpose of what's happening, and I think that's filtering down.
00:18:40.000The things you're seeing are so much more sophisticated.
00:18:44.000And I think the team, not just the simple team, or the team of the rock stars at the cabinet level, where the work gets done and really you hammer these things out is a second, third tier, and then certain things like OMB. I don't think you can compare at all.
00:19:00.000And today, and I'm not just talking to John Kellys and the Madisons and the guys that had reputations that came in there.
00:19:09.000And at the second, third level, and with like OMB and Doge, you have the most sophisticated angle of attack on really getting us back to the benefits of liberty, which is limited government.
00:19:22.000People have talked about limited government for years.
00:19:24.000The Republican Party has yammered on about it.
00:19:27.000Trump has come in with a coalition of independents, Democrats and Republicans, and he's going to do something about it.
00:19:41.000Every day we have to understand their resistance.
00:19:44.000Because they had the nullification project, Don, as you know, that came after us hard.
00:19:50.000Eventually we had to go with all these committees, etc.
00:19:52.000It's going to be just as hard this time.
00:19:54.000But I think they're even a little exhausted because they realize the motive force in back of this, what President Trump is converging on a point, is just so powerful.
00:20:04.000So I think people should just stand by.
00:20:05.000But the audience, your audience in particular...
00:20:08.000We always have to have the president's back.
00:20:10.000These things are going to pop up all the time.
00:20:31.000I mean, I think the thing I'm most excited about in all of this, and it didn't probably really pop up until the last couple of weeks of the campaign, was this notion of Doge.
00:20:38.000Because having a mind like Elon, people that can look into the details of what's going on, before you even do anything, just exposing it to the American public.
00:20:49.000Just, hey, full disclosure, open the kimono.
00:20:52.000Show everything that's going on, every dollar that they've spent unwisely.
00:20:57.000You know, the Pentagon failing seven audits, losing trillions of dollars.
00:21:02.000But they're going to audit you for $601 in a Venmo transaction.
00:21:05.000I mean, once the American people see the amount of waste, the graft...
00:21:10.000You know, the essential bribery, you know, back and forth between DOD and where the people making the decisions end up and what board seats.
00:21:17.000Once people understand that and they realize we've literally wasted trillions of American taxpayer dollars, I think that's when you get actually like revolutionary type change in government where like no one's going to accept that anymore.
00:21:30.000And no one from the swamp, even some of the best people on our side, wouldn't be able to expose it in a way like Elon, I think, could.
00:21:37.000A guy that's built seven companies, if one guy built one of his companies, it would be a crowning achievement in a life well spent.
00:21:45.000This is the kind of mind that can do that.
00:21:49.000And more importantly, this is the kind of mind that's offering it up to do it for the American people.
00:21:54.000And they wouldn't do it under another leader other than Trump, because Trump's the only guy that doesn't feel the need to conform to that swamp.
00:22:04.000And I realize you guys are too self-effacing and humble to do this, but he is actually, along with General Washington and Lincoln, now of that top tier.
00:22:17.000And this is why he can actually be the one that can actually take the government apart and put it back together in something that is what we want and can afford.
00:22:27.000And it does this because when he left, and this is why the Christian Walker answer was so good about 2020, when he got back to Mar-a-Lago in January, February of 2021, That, you know, with everything that was going to come at him, he could have very easily said, okay, I did it.
00:22:48.000I guess I'm going to go buy some more courses in England and get back on the Open Championship Rota.
00:22:56.000I'm going to buy a couple of courses here and get into the thing of the USGA, the PGA. I'm going to join my kids, my grandkids, Milani, the whole deal.
00:23:05.000Consciously, he made a decision, understanding what they would do to stop him on bankrupting the company, on destroying his family, of putting all the kids in jail, of then coming after him and putting him in prison.
00:23:17.000He made a conscious decision that, hey, I'm going to do this because I have, not just myself, I have a responsibility to the American people to do this.
00:23:33.000The physical courage of, as you know, Don, when they hit you on the floor of that Secret Service, they want you to crawl off there undercover.
00:24:32.000I want to follow the guy and see where this thing goes.
00:24:34.000And that's where you're having a unique convergence that's beyond politics.
00:24:38.000The reason that he's so successful, the media and all the guys on the Democratic side on the matron matter every night, they're looking at him in the prim of political culture and political speak, which is so shallow.
00:24:49.000And that's the reason the Republicans can't stop.
00:24:51.000And they still talk in political speak.
00:25:05.000Like Elon Musk, and particularly engineers, and guys like Vivek, who can articulate.
00:25:10.000All the guys have for years talked about limited government.
00:25:13.000The government's only gotten bigger under Republican administrations.
00:25:16.000Now you have a unique opportunity to take this thing apart and put it back together, like the founders of Ramers thought, to get the blessings of liberty.
00:25:25.000If we don't get it done now, it's never going to get done.
00:25:28.000And that's why this next year, Will be, I think, one of the most intense, particularly to what's happened geopolitically, one of the most intense and meaningful years in all of American history.
00:25:38.000And I'll just finish this segment with saying it's divine providence that 90 days into President Trump's second term, his third victory second term, 90 days, is the 250th anniversary of Lexington and Concord, the shot heard around the world.
00:25:56.000It's divine providence that That they stole it and we saw exactly how depraved they are to now come back and on the 250th anniversary of Lexington and Concord.
00:26:07.000And then the Declaration of Independence 18 months later is providential.
00:26:13.000And that's why this is all at a very deep, a deep level.
00:26:16.000And Trump is the man he's, look, he's at the level of General Washington and Lincoln.
00:26:20.000It's just no doubt about it, to kind of had this third big movement in American history and take us in a totally, to really take us to the next level.
00:26:28.000Well, I want to note for the record that Steve Bannon may be the first person to ever call Trump humble and modest.
00:26:33.000But as you said earlier, but- By the way, can I say something?
00:26:57.000I've gotten, you know, I get in trouble for a lot of the things I say, but this one in particular, like I've said, you know, perhaps his biggest political liability is that he actually has a lot of empathy.
00:27:08.000There's a reason he's got 40-year type employees and people, you know, two decades or four decades of their lives, they work for the guy.
00:28:01.000I know something you rally about a lot, and I certainly do.
00:28:05.000But when you look abroad right now, it seems that whoever's actually running the White House in these last days wants to sow as much chaos as possible.
00:28:16.000More Ukraine funding, a power vacuum in Syria.
00:28:21.000It seems like they're literally trying to create something that they can then flip into my father and be like, Oh, you know, it's yours.
00:28:28.000You own this now to continue, you know, that nonsense.
00:28:32.000Will America be more engulfed in war before my father even gets into office?
00:28:37.000And frankly, is that intentional so that they can make him own it?
00:28:41.000It feels like, you know, I watch, you know, I always use this sort of analogy, you know, Ukraine shot a Russian Jeep.
00:28:46.000It was a major victory, but they withdrew from three quarters of the country.
00:28:49.000You know, Russia's making gains every day, but the American people think Ukraine's winning.
00:28:54.000They're putting up a resistance because we're spending a trillion dollars there.
00:29:00.000Sure, but they're not winning this war.
00:29:03.000But in the minds of the American public, if they watch sort of the lamestream media, they think they're winning so that anything less than Russia's out, Ukraine gets everything, they become a member of NATO, looks like a loss.
00:29:14.000Even if that's not even in the realm of possibility, they feel like they're sowing that so they can use it as a narrative.
00:29:21.000That when my father creates peace, no matter what, even if it just stops the death, which seems like it should be the biggest victory for civilization, that they can pin it as a loss.
00:29:32.000Because it's so glaringly sick to me right now.
00:29:36.000If you look at the three lines of work of what President Trump has to bring together in the first year of his second term, you've got the geopolitical situation, what I call the Third World War.
00:29:47.000You also have the balance sheet of the United States, the $36 trillion, the deficits, the spending, all of it.
00:29:53.000And then you've got the invasion on the southern border.
00:29:58.000The Biden regime is going out of their way to make sure that they narrow the possibilities of what President Trump can do, almost to the point you're forcing crises at the very beginning on the afternoon of the 20th of January.
00:30:10.000And it's obvious to anybody who's watching this.
00:30:14.000Geopolitically, the arc, that's kind of what I call the arc of instability, all the way going from southern Russia, mid-Russia, through Ukraine, to Romania, the Balkans, Turkey, Syria, Persia, the Gulf, the Red Sea, if you look at that right there, they're doing as much as they possibly can to stir it up.
00:30:32.000First off, in the Ukraine, the Ukraine situation, they're sitting there saying they need 500, the Biden regime comes out and says they need 500,000 18-year-old recruits immediately to stave the Russians.
00:30:43.000President Trump, I heard him talk the other night in the Russ Vogt CRA Galloway said a few words.
00:31:04.000And not only is Ukraine not winning, it's collapsing right now.
00:31:07.000The Russian army, if the Russian army gets to the Dnieper River, as you know, Don Jr., they have a history of when they take something, it takes a couple of decades to convince them they got to leave, right?
00:31:36.000He says, I need an immediate ceasefire, need everybody to put their guns down, no more killing.
00:31:40.000I'm in in six weeks or seven weeks and we're going to sit down, we're going to negotiate this, but let's stop the killing and let's do it right now.
00:31:47.000The Biden regime is doing the exact opposite.
00:31:49.000They're forcing weapons in there to the fact that the New York Times reported, the New York Times, not Breitbart, not Citizen Free Press, they reported two weeks ago there were discussions By senior administration officials, senior members of NATO, Brussels, and Ukraine about putting tactical nuclear weapons back into Ukraine, the old weapons Ukraine used to have.
00:32:25.000Like, I'm not saying, you know, I'm not being, you know, anytime you say something like that, you know, Even logical and right, you're a Putin apologist, but we gave him, and I'm not saying he's a good guy, but we gave him every excuse he needed to go into Ukraine.
00:32:40.000Ukraine was literally a 50-60 year buffer zone between Russia and NATO on their border, and it's like, okay, we're going to move it right up onto your border, despite that always having been the red line.
00:33:13.000This is why I have a problem with Biden and his regime shooting long-range missiles with our technicians into Russia.
00:33:18.000The Russian people were our allies in World War II. They lost 35 to 60 million people fighting the Nazis, fighting the Wehrmacht, just like the Chinese people fought the Japanese Imperial Army.
00:33:28.000Those two sets of people were our allies.
00:33:31.000The reason we didn't have 3, 4, 5 million casualties because of the blood laying of those guys.
00:33:36.000If you look at NATO, I hate to be brutally frank about it, but if you look at virtually all the countries in NATO, except for England, right, most of those threw in with the Nazis or were neutral so that they were kind of with the Nazis, right?
00:33:48.000We didn't have a lot of allies in what is NATO today, so people have to be advised that this thing has big geopolitical consequences.
00:33:56.000My problem is that instability has now gone all the way down to Syria, where you have Erdogan And the Turks are like, hey, maybe I start the Ottoman Empire because Biden's so messed up.
00:34:06.000And before Trump gets in, I want to have a land grab.
00:34:08.000This thing's teetering right now on the third world war on the rim of the Eurasian landmass where you go in kinetic and all you see every second, every day, they want to suck us into Syria.
00:34:20.000They want to suck us into military involvement.
00:34:22.000Everything that President Trump's going to sit there and go, hey, hold it.
00:34:24.000I'm talking peace and prosperity, right?
00:34:26.000The way we get to peace and prosperity, first thing we do is we put down the guns, OK, because the guns now we go up the escalation ladder.
00:34:33.000You're going to have tactical nukes flying around places like Ukraine, you know, places like the Century Asian landmass.
00:34:56.000And at the camps, the people are saying, I've got to use the app now and get in line because Trump's coming on the 20th and they're sending everybody home.
00:35:03.000I've got to get in to at least have some sort of chit that I can stay in the United States.
00:35:09.000That President Trump has to turn around on his kind of immigration wall in the grocery situation.
00:35:16.000Biden, these guys right now, are actively, actively, actively trying to suppress what he can possibly do.
00:35:22.000On top of it, the other thing they're doing in the White House, and they said, oh, President Trump was wrong, President Trump's vindictive, they're sitting there spending all night on blanket preemptive pardons.
00:35:37.000Remember the crap that we took when like they were there was talk in 2020 about them.
00:35:41.000They were maybe going to just preemptively pardon the family and, you know, members of the cat like and like it was like I was like, I don't even want like either.
00:35:51.000I'm battle tested in congressional testimony.
00:35:53.000Like, even if there's a thought, I was like, I just didn't do it.
00:35:56.000Like, I don't want it because that's the, well, you took the pardon.
00:36:00.000But I have a feeling all these guys and all these guys that are pretending they wouldn't take it, they're going to take it if they get one.
00:36:07.000President Trump's answer to Kristen Welker is absolutely correct.
00:36:10.000His retribution is peace and prosperity and another run like he had in 18 and 19, okay?
00:36:16.000Before the CCP unleashed the bioweapon.
00:36:43.000If people have done things wrong and some of these investigations go on, particularly about January 6 or about the stolen election or about what the Justice Department did for the right to life people, the praying the rosary, what they did to the parents, or whatever.
00:38:00.000Number one, the very first thing that should happen is every single part of that regime, every person on a commission, on the board of West Point Naval Academy, all 3,000 political appointees and all 1,000 Senate confirmed have to be fired, terminated immediately.
00:38:17.000The entire, and all the U.S. attorneys, the deputy U.S. attorneys, all has to go.
00:38:22.000You have to purge this thing of these people immediately.
00:38:25.000Then in addition, we have to think through right now, if it hasn't been confirmed, and that's why I think on January 4th, you swear them in on the 3rd, up on the 4th, flood the zone.
00:39:32.000Well, and they did that to our guys, because, you know, when we do that, you know, there's going to be the stories, oh my God, this is unprecedented.
00:39:38.000Like, I know guys that served on, like, I think it was like the Holocaust Museum, and these places that you didn't even think was necessarily a government appointee, and it's like, yeah, Joe Biden wants your resignation, but he's like, I'm on a commission.
00:39:54.000They got rid of everyone, and so, you know, they've sort of set that precedent, so I think you're 100% right.
00:39:59.000And then we fleet up as many people as possible and hit as possible.
00:40:02.000And then I think it's very concentrated, I guess, now on the reconciliation.
00:40:06.000Well, first of all, I think President Trump's going to hit them with 100 executive orders, particularly around the border and around, you know, everything Biden undid.
00:40:14.000Remember, this mess started with President Trump finally having the border under control, right, and having some semblance of having a plan we can implement On immigration over time that would be both empathetic and good for the country.
00:40:50.000I guess it's going to be on the border.
00:40:51.000What they're saying, the Senate will be that first.
00:40:53.000But I would tell them, hey, coming down in 90 days is going to be the tax and the economic, the second reconciliation.
00:41:00.000I would do that and I would announce Doge and OMB going into the appropriations process because we kicked the CR down.
00:41:07.000President Trump's first budget is going to have both Vivek and Elon's handprints all over it with Russ's vote in the appropriations process.
00:41:20.000You always have the media on their back foot.
00:41:22.000You have the Democrats on the back foot.
00:41:23.000You overwhelm them with action, action, action.
00:41:27.000So, you know, we've seen a little bit with Pete Hegseth this week, you know, education through pain, all those people that were, you know, going against him, you know, but our base coming out for him, not the D.C. people, the people who matter, the warfighters, Congressional Medal of Honor recipients coming out and having his back.
00:41:44.000You know, talk about, though, how loud and how strong the MAGA base has been on rallying around not just Pete, but Cash, Tulsi, Bobby Kennedy, and others.
00:41:58.000I mean, go back in time, and if you go back in time, this populist, because remember, once again, he was down by points, and they're dropping a billion dollars in advertising, and her politics are joy.
00:42:25.000But still, you had to have 55 or 50 million people or 60 million people show up on game day with no money, with that volunteer effort and Elon putting the money in and Miriam Adelson of kind of coordinating on the grassroots.
00:42:39.000You had a mass mobilization on the 8th of November that's never been seen before in American history because the Democrats, you know, is the vote so early of...
00:42:48.000Principally, low propensity, low information voters doesn't mean that they're stupid or not degreed.
00:42:53.000It means they're just not that interested in politics, but they understand something wrong with the country.
00:43:00.000And this is why I say about all this stuff coming after President Trump with Mershon, everything like this, and all the lawfare.
00:43:06.000We had the biggest jury in this country's history convened on the 8th of November of 2024, and they rendered a verdict.
00:43:13.000And that verdict is Donald John Trump won an overwhelming victory, held the House, took the Senate, won the presidency, and won across the board in state legislative governships.
00:43:23.000The American people rendered their judgment after weighing and measuring this for a couple of years.
00:43:31.000When Lincoln talks to emancipation proclamations and executive order, he says, but you know, I gave the people, and he says, it's a little questionable about the legality of it.
00:43:39.000He said, but I gave the people two years to think about it, and then they voted me back in in a landslide.
00:43:57.000All money stood up and go, you know what?
00:43:59.000We want this guy, and we're going to have his back.
00:44:02.000And I think that's what you're seeing.
00:44:03.000Now, people are trying to celebrate and go about their lives, but when they see a danger, when the flare goes up, and the opposition, the Republican establishment better understand this.
00:44:14.000When somebody in President Trump's camp puts a flare up, They're in the trenches and the bayonets are getting fixed and we're going to go over the top and we're going to win.
00:44:37.000And anybody that tries to stop it is going to have to deal with With the sovereign will, not just a MAGA, because I think you're getting more and more people to say, give this guy a shot.
00:44:47.000And I think that's where we stand right now.
00:44:50.000Remember, when this age is written about, the age of Trump, just like they wrote about the age of Jackson, they're going to, you know, I'll be forgotten, Tucker will be forgotten, Elon will be forgotten.
00:45:00.000Here's what they're going to write about.
00:45:17.000We're saying, hang on, Hexeth, he wants him as Secretary of Defense?
00:45:20.000He's going to have him as Secretary of Defense.
00:45:22.000That's what I think what happened last week was so powerful.
00:45:25.000Yeah, I think you can also see some of this sort of play out in the ratings for cable news.
00:45:29.000CNN, MSNBC, they're hitting 20-year lows in their key demographics.
00:45:36.000I mean, you know, they are at rock bottom.
00:45:39.000How does that tie into, you know, the power that guys like you, perhaps myself, and others have, you know, in the opportunity front, sort of this, you know, independent journalist, non-mainstream media, you know, alternate sources of, you know, information?
00:46:36.000The way they oversold this, particularly MSNBC, the biggest shock came late that night when when North Carolina was called the MSNBC.
00:46:46.000I'm not sure Rachel Madden, those guys hung around after midnight.
00:46:49.000I think they all departed because they understood they had oversold the victory so much.
00:46:55.000There are people who are more traumatized than really Hillary Clinton, because now you had four years of Trump when they saw it was going and going so big with all the battleground states and the popular vote.
00:47:04.000Their audience is sitting there going, hang on for a second.
00:47:35.000When they were like, we're going to win North Carolina, I'm like, I don't know, guys.
00:47:39.000These people, they lost their homes, and I didn't even want to bring up voting, but they would have crawled three miles through broken glass to vote these guys out.
00:48:02.000They realize maybe Florida's a little too hot.
00:48:03.000They come back to, you know, settle in North Carolina.
00:48:05.000So there's been a demographic shift, but we weren't losing North Carolina and they had no idea.
00:48:11.000It's not an unrelated event that the Roberts made a decision afterwards to spin off MSNBC and CNBC and these others into a separate entity.
00:48:20.000MSNBC will never recover the power it once had because there is a certain core of their audience that felt they were lied and misled the entire time.
00:48:28.000When they saw the breadth of President Trump, not victory, but the demographic groups running in, I think they took a mortal blow.
00:48:36.000It'll be something, but it'll be something different, particularly as they get spun off CNN, I think the same.
00:48:41.000I don't think those entities, and quite frankly, I don't think they matter that much anymore.
00:48:45.000I don't think the New York Times matter.
00:48:46.000I don't think, like this big thing about an op-ed supporting an endorsement of Trump in the Washington Post, nobody cares.
00:48:51.000It's the streaming services that you can see on Rumble, the real market streaming service.
00:48:56.000It's the podcast, particularly the multi-hour podcast.
00:49:09.000What I found is that You have to be giving people actionable news, not just opinions and not just punditry, actionable news, and they're thirsting for that.
00:49:17.000That's why I think we're going to win here.
00:49:19.000I think that our side of the football is like these guys are now saying, oh, well, it's just we're all populist or we're going to be populist.
00:49:26.000Populism is not just something you slap on about a tax cut or whatever.
00:49:56.000So I think that that's why it's now incumbent upon us to make sure we have his back and we drive the message and we drive the actions so that he can fulfill what he feels is right for the country.
00:50:07.000So I've talked about this on the show quite a bunch.
00:50:09.000I kind of love the idea, especially, you know, when it's so clear that so many of the typical mainstream sources of media have literally just become, you know, regime propagandists.
00:50:17.000They've lied to us over and over again.
00:50:19.000It's not like they're doing their job.
00:50:21.000They're regime propagandists functioning as the marketing department of the Democrat Party.
00:50:25.000So I've talked about, you know, restructuring, remaking the White House briefing room, you know, allowing, you know, podcasters in there, allowing independent journalists in there.
00:50:38.000You know, I get that The New York Times has had, you know, a front row seat for decades.
00:50:41.000But when you see the stuff that they're pushing, when you see the lies that they've done, when they're winning Pulitzer Prizes for their incredible coverage of Russia, Russia, Russia, even though all of it end up being a lie, it didn't matter.
00:50:54.000It served its purpose, you know, again, being propagandists.
00:50:59.000What are your thoughts on that, Steve?
00:51:01.000I know, you know, I got some outrage from, of course, those people who are likely to be displaced.
00:51:04.000But if more people are getting their news from these podcasts, from these other trusted sources, if those people aren't then lying to their audience and they're frankly, you know, they don't have, you know, permanent licenses from the government to have these kind of things.
00:51:17.000They've built up those bases on their own in the last few years.
00:51:20.000You know, I think it's actually a great idea.
00:51:22.000It's actually a way for more people to have actual knowledge, you know.
00:51:54.000And they take some low-level staffer out to dinner for a steak dinner, so it doesn't seem like a bribe, but it basically is.
00:51:59.000Number one, I think in the White House compound, you have the beautiful old State Department and War Department across the street, which is now the executive office building.
00:52:11.000People forget that Jack Kennedy, which is really the gold standard for the press conference, started at the State Department and then went across the street to the EOB. You move all of it away from, and I actually say rebuild the pool that was downstairs that Jack Kennedy used so well.
00:52:28.000There's a lot of action in that pool and it wasn't swimming.
00:52:32.000I know it's a family hour show, so we'll save that for later.
00:52:37.000But you move them from there, being on top of people, you move them across the street, you get more space, you have that beautiful auditorium.
00:52:46.000So, number one, they're out of the building, and they're there, and they can have bigger offices, they can have more people.
00:52:51.000There's plenty of room over there to let them have more people, bigger staffs.
00:52:53.000We want more coverage, more international people, more the merrier.
00:52:56.000You do include, you have to include the Joe Rogans and the streaming services, the Tucker Carlson show, all of it.
00:53:04.000War Room, we would have, of course, everybody gets it now.
00:53:07.000When you actually do the press conferences in the bigger room, I believe that you have to put, and I think this is a outreach to younger people, because if you look at the average age of Fox and MSC and CNN, it's now 69 to 70 years old.
00:53:25.000You have to go, the Rogan show, Tucker, all these different shows and podcasters, David, all of those guys are in the first or second row, right?
00:53:36.000The mainstream media, Third or fourth row, right?
00:53:39.000And kind of, you know, you get called on when you get called on.
00:53:42.000I think we have to be very aggressive in this.
00:53:44.000I think you're doing it for the American people in access.
00:53:46.000I also think you're sending a message.
00:53:48.000We're not going on your agenda anymore.
00:54:39.000The first two guys that get the clip, they make it go viral with whatever narrative they want, and then everyone else is basically rinse and repeat, cut and pasting, whatever it may be.
00:54:47.000You have more people in the room that mainstream media tries doing that, where they're manipulating...
00:54:52.000They play the first half of the answer, but not the second half that's the disclaimer language that actually explains what's really going on.
00:55:36.000So, you know, you said it's the Trump agenda, but as we wrap up here, give me the Steve Bannon war room minute one agenda for January 20th.
00:55:45.000Tom Holman told me to expect shock and awe, which I like.
00:55:49.000God knows we need it because it's been so bad for far too long.
00:56:14.000National Economic Council, everybody coming together for the plan, working with the House on appropriations to get a budget for President Trump immediately.
00:56:21.000And then on the wars, quite frankly, I think you set up, you start, President Trump says, I want to sit down with people, right?
00:56:31.000I'd rather have you come here to the White House.
00:56:33.000Also, in the deportations, I think he immediately calls for a summit, either in Mar-a-Lago or down the Rio Grande Valley, where he has the frontline nations, Mexico, Latin America, President Trump, you think he's good on stage, he's best in the room.
00:56:46.000And what I think in the first 100 days, we all think, he should be in the room with the key decision makers in the Third World War to shut down the kinetic part right away.
00:56:57.000Also, the invasion of the southern border, that all, to me, should be in the first 48 hours.
00:57:03.000I'd also, since it's a Monday, I would, you know, maybe the next day or the day after is call Congress back.
00:57:12.000And he goes back, he goes to Congress and gives that.
00:57:14.000The only thing I will say about the inaugural address, and this is a strong recommendation, last time I think it would have been better if I did the whole thing.
00:57:20.000The speech this time, I think he starts and gives a traditional speech to the people and this huge crowd that's going to be there.
00:57:26.000I would strongly recommend halfway through just pivot the podium and turn to the political class of Washington.
00:57:34.000With the people to his back, and he goes through, bang, bang, bang.
00:57:39.000I want to make sure you guys are looking at me when I walk through what I want to do.
00:58:04.000So, you know, what kind of confidence do you have in sort of the Republican House with, you know, a three-seat majority and a Senate with a three-seat majority?
00:58:12.000Did they hear the mandate from the American people?
00:58:15.000I mean, you know, I'd question some of that given sort of the attacks on some of the appointees so far.
00:58:21.000I think we've won that back over again in large part due to, you know, Our audience is going after and having the backs of these appointees.
00:58:31.000Do you think those people will be along for the ride?
00:58:34.000Because that has not traditionally been the case.
00:58:36.000To the degree that the cartel members, the swamp, can defer or delay action, they're going to do it.
00:58:43.000I think we may have to reiterate what happened last week.
00:58:47.000So the audience has got to know that you're not going to sit at home and just get the popcorn, right?
00:58:51.000The audience here is probably the most active part of this at all, because they're going to have to continually, particularly for the first 100 days or six months, let political Washington know they have the president's back and they want to see these actions.
00:59:09.000Given the slim majorities, although I do think we're going to get some Democrats and all these things, and in the Senate, and the Senate to me is still where Mitch McConnell can fight a rearguard action, I believe you're going to see President Trump, who's the best negotiator, lay out a plan, get everybody on board and say, we're marching this way, guys.