Triggered - Donald Trump Jr - THE NEW MEDIA ERA IS HERE: Live w- Journalist James O'Keefe, Plus Biden Corruption in Full Focus | TRIGGERED Ep.42

00:00:00.000 Good evening, guys, and welcome to another major episode of Triggered.

00:00:25.000 Thanks for tuning in as always.

00:00:26.000 This is one I'm actually really excited about.

00:00:29.000 We're joined today by James O'Keefe.

00:00:31.000 James has been a leading, if not the leading, conservative journalist now for over a decade.

00:00:37.000 He's breaking the stories that...

00:00:40.000 Mainstream media doesn't want to touch, although you'd think if they were real journalists, they'd be all over it.

00:00:45.000 They choose not to be. His hidden cameras have exposed just about everyone from Google to Pfizer to government officials.

00:00:53.000 James just founded the O'Keefe Media Group after leaving Project Veritas, and we're going to get right to James.

00:00:58.000 We're going to do it a little bit differently this time.

00:01:01.000 He had a hard out, so I wanted to make sure we had time to get to all of the questions.

00:01:05.000 I'm going to be watching some of your questions live as well.

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00:04:29.000 And guys, joining me now, founder of the O'Keefe Media Group is James O'Keefe.

00:04:37.000 James, how you doing?

00:04:40.000 Great to be with you.

00:04:42.000 Good to have you, man.

00:04:43.000 So, you know, to start, you have a big story out, and I, you know, in the little chat we had earlier,

00:04:50.000 I guess you have another one coming out on Tuesday, so I'd love you to tease that,

00:04:53.000 but you have an investigation suggesting major fraud with the Democrat Party's

00:05:01.000 premier fundraising platform, ActBlue.

00:05:04.000 Your investigation found that elderly people are being named as having given thousands of dollars

00:05:10.000 Democrats but they've never given to them.

00:05:13.000 Here's a couple of clips from the report.

00:05:15.000 We'll take a look, and I'll come back to you with your thoughts on it.

00:05:20.000 Sound about right that there's been 18,000 contributions?

00:05:23.000 Absolutely not. For the...

00:05:25.000 Absolutely not.

00:05:27.000 In the amount of like $170,000?

00:05:29.000 Absolutely not.

00:05:31.000 Really? Yes. Okay.

00:05:33.000 So that's not you doing that?

00:05:34.000 No, it's not. But does the frequency ring a bell that you're donating that much every like 10 times a day sometimes?

00:05:42.000 No. No? No.

00:05:44.000 Do you think someone is maybe fraudulently Well, they must be.

00:05:48.000 They must be.

00:05:50.000 ActBlue is the one I use for political donations, and I do not make that kind of political donation.

00:05:58.000 The past two years, you gave 5,300 times.

00:06:03.000 Does that number make sense?

00:06:04.000 5,300 times?

00:06:06.000 Yes. How much is the money?

00:06:09.000 $86,708.

00:06:12.000 Does that number make sense to you?

00:06:15.000 $86,000?

00:06:16.000 Yeah.

00:06:17.000 21 and 22. You think you gave over $30,000?

00:06:24.000 No, I don't give $200.

00:06:28.000 Wow. So James, what's going on here?

00:06:33.000 What do you think you've found?

00:06:35.000 You know, what's the volume, the scope of this?

00:06:37.000 Obviously, it seems illegal to me.

00:06:39.000 I have a feeling if Republicans were doing this, there'd be actual consequences.

00:06:43.000 What's happening right now?

00:06:46.000 Well, and Congress is now getting involved, Don.

00:06:50.000 Senator Rubio, Congressman Gates have written to the FEC, written to the chairwoman of the FEC. It's alarming reports there.

00:06:58.000 You see from the field, citizen journalists, some of them work for me, some of them just inspired to do this on their own.

00:07:05.000 Fraudulent donations being reported to the FEC by ActBlue.

00:07:10.000 A lot of individuals, mostly senior citizens, we found living in lower middle class to middle class homes have reportedly donated thousands of times to ActBlue a year.

00:07:22.000 These people have no idea that they're doing this.

00:07:25.000 Some of these interactions are quite funny. 0.99

00:07:27.000 The one in Annapolis, I knocked on the guy's door and he said he wants to shoot Donald Trump in the head.

00:07:33.000 It's people, obviously Democrats, but they're shocked that thousands of dollars of money is being apparently laundered through their home address.

00:07:44.000 Now, as Rubio pointed out in his letter, it comes as no surprise to act blue serves as a vessel for fraud, considering there's no institutional security or safeguards ingrained with their donation processes.

00:07:55.000 They don't require a CVV number on the transaction.

00:07:58.000 So we haven't yet figured out, Don, Who or what is exactly behind this?

00:08:03.000 We just know that there is fraud and that thousands of dollars, thousands of times, are going through these innocent people's addresses.

00:08:14.000 Well, it doesn't surprise me at all.

00:08:16.000 I look at some of these congressional races and Senate races across the country, and the Democrats are outspending the Republicans 10 to 1.

00:08:22.000 I mean, the money is coming from somewhere, and they certainly don't have a shortage of sort of globalist billionaires that would be willing to fund those things.

00:08:31.000 But it seems like, you know, there are limitations to what those people can fund individually, so maybe this is how they've done that.

00:08:38.000 And I mean, if you've just discovered that many, you know, if this is tens of thousands of people, I mean, this could be just literally game-changing and obviously extremely illegal.

00:08:46.000 But again, there seem to be consequences only one way right now, unfortunately.

00:08:52.000 Well, I did speak to Peter, a guy named Peter Election Watch.

00:08:56.000 This is a group in Wisconsin that gathered a lot of this FEC data.

00:09:00.000 And he's about to file a complaint, a federal lawsuit.

00:09:03.000 And without getting into the specifics, he has talked to me about some of this tracing they've done, trying to figure out where is this coming from.

00:09:12.000 He calls it tracing packets.

00:09:14.000 And according to him and the software that he's using, he's saying 60%, 60% of the money seems to be coming from China, according to Peter Election Watch.

00:09:25.000 He's working with a few different companies to look into that, including a bank that they say is responsible for a lot of these transactions, a bank called Amalgamated Bank, the DC branch.

00:09:37.000 So a lack of security there.

00:09:39.000 This story is just developing.

00:09:42.000 Congressman Gates put out a release saying that he is going to be talking to the FEC and he has legislation titled Put Zombie Donors to Rest Act that would amend the Internal Revenue Code to require a CVV number on these transactions because we don't know why there is such little security when it comes to ActBlue.

00:10:04.000 We don't know why they're allowing for this sort of thing to happen.

00:10:07.000 Well, I think they're fine taking it, and it should be no surprise to people that if it is funded by China, when you look at the Democrats' policies today on China, you understand that, you know, they're America-last, China-first, almost shockingly so. 0.87

00:10:22.000 I mean, it's so flagrant now, it's ridiculous.

00:10:24.000 So it wouldn't surprise me that a lot of them would be funded by China.

00:10:29.000 Right. And a lot of citizen journalists are asking a lot of good questions.

00:10:33.000 This story literally launched OMG because I felt that a lot of people want to get involved.

00:10:38.000 A lot of people want to knock on doors.

00:10:39.000 It's an easy thing for people to do, to knock on the doors of these Democrats and to say, hey, did you donate $30,000 to Joe Biden?

00:10:47.000 It activates people.

00:10:48.000 I spoke to one guy in Annapolis, Maryland, different guy than the guy that said

00:10:53.000 hit Donald Trump with a baseball bat.

00:10:55.000 This other guy actually said, I'm glad that you're looking into this

00:10:58.000 and please get to the bottom of it.

00:11:00.000 Now this guy, you know, definitely 100% liberal Democrat, but appreciated the work that I'm doing

00:11:07.000 because he felt like a victim.

00:11:09.000 Some people call these people smurfs, a negative connotation there, I think.

00:11:14.000 And some people call the people that are doing the money zombie donors.

00:11:18.000 I think the elderly people are victims of this and a lot of them are being woken up

00:11:23.000 by the citizens knocking on their door.

00:11:26.000 Don, not all these people work for me, just dozens of people inspired to go out

00:11:31.000 and expose whatever this is.

00:11:33.000 Well, listen, I hope that you've done that.

00:11:35.000 I hope that you're inspiring other people to get out there and ask the real questions.

00:11:39.000 I mean, there's such a dearth of that in our actual mainstream media.

00:11:44.000 You know, the people who are journalists, it's amazing how little journalism they want to do.

00:11:48.000 They just want to sort of parrot the Democrat narrative.

00:11:50.000 I mean, they've gone after you countless times.

00:11:53.000 I mean... I don't think they've ever proven you wrong, but they go after you when you're breaking stories that you think they would be all over.

00:12:02.000 So you'd mention OMG. I love the acronym for O'Keefe Media Group.

00:12:07.000 You founded Project Veritas, but you're not there anymore.

00:12:11.000 Can you tell us a little bit about what happened there?

00:12:14.000 You know, I imagine they regret their actions because I look at you as Project Veritas.

00:12:20.000 I mean, you're the guy that did it.

00:12:21.000 You're the guy, and we'll get to this one later, you know, that went in there dressed like a pimp trying to get acorn donations to fund a brothel.

00:12:30.000 I mean, I thought that was sort of amazing, you know, just the way this all started.

00:12:34.000 But then you really started breaking, you know, big stories.

00:12:38.000 You know, tell us a little bit about what happened and really now what you're trying to accomplish with OMG, your new group.

00:12:46.000 Yeah, that Acorn story also, Hannah Giles went in there with me some 13 years ago.

00:12:53.000 The mission of OMG is to decentralize journalism.

00:12:57.000 It's to empower other people to do what we do here.

00:13:02.000 We have a very big story coming next week, actually.

00:13:05.000 I think perhaps even more significant of an institution than Pfizer was.

00:13:11.000 And Pfizer is very, very powerful and controls the majority of the advertising dollars on television, which is one of the problems you have in media, which is that journalists are beholden to their advertisers, which include Big Pharma.

00:13:23.000 But the institution that we're about to investigate is even bigger than that.

00:13:27.000 And it takes independent people, Don, to...

00:13:30.000 To speak truth to power.

00:13:33.000 I'm not for sale.

00:13:34.000 No one tells me what to do.

00:13:35.000 No one tells me what not to do.

00:13:37.000 If anyone tries to do that, I just walk away.

00:13:40.000 And that's my core value.

00:13:43.000 That's my core tenet. That's what I believe in.

00:13:46.000 Journalists should operate completely unafraid and impartial.

00:13:51.000 It should be focused on the facts.

00:13:53.000 And that's what I've always believed.

00:13:54.000 And so OMG's mission is really to get people to take these classes that we're offering next month that really open up, open source all of my knowledge on ethics, on the law, on technology, on how to identify a story and how to go undercover.

00:14:12.000 And give that to people because everyone wants to find and expose corruption.

00:14:19.000 They just need some training.

00:14:20.000 They just need some help. So we have a core staff right now, some really great people working with me, and I hope to inspire other people to do what I do.

00:14:30.000 Well, listen, I hope so, too, because, again, I think there's probably so much more out there.

00:14:34.000 I mean, it's perhaps a little bit what I'm trying to do here on Rumble, right, where I have a platform of free speech.

00:14:40.000 I can say what needs to be said.

00:14:41.000 I can take things further than they'll ever take on, you know, frankly, either side of the mainstream media spectrum.

00:14:48.000 So I think, you know, that's super important.

00:14:49.000 But having people that have, you know, the guts...

00:14:52.000 The willingness to go in sort of undercover this way to get, you know, entrenched in an organization and talk about what's really going on is huge.

00:15:01.000 So I think that's absolutely awesome.

00:15:03.000 You can't teach hunger.

00:15:05.000 You can't teach, you know, you have to come to the table being willing.

00:15:09.000 You have to be, you know, courage.

00:15:11.000 I can't really teach that.

00:15:12.000 Although maybe you can find it within yourself inspired by other people.

00:15:16.000 So it's that hunger.

00:15:18.000 It's that desire to go get a story.

00:15:20.000 But we can teach you all the other things.

00:15:24.000 You mentioned ingratiate yourself or getting in there like a guy like Christian Hartsock.

00:15:28.000 He went into that Democracy Partners group, which you talked about.

00:15:33.000 I remember on the air in 2016, backstage, you were live with Hannity talking about that.

00:15:40.000 That took a long time for him to build the trust of Scott Fogle and catch all those guys on tape saying they were punching people at rallies and getting paid to foment violence and these sorts of things.

00:15:53.000 That took a lot of effort and it took a long time to do that.

00:15:58.000 But I think there's a lot of people out there that can do that.

00:16:00.000 So on our website, O'KeefeMediaGroup.com, you can sign up to be a journalist and we have over 1,000 people.

00:16:06.000 That have signed up to do this, and we're sort of deploying them and dispatching them, including a series of institutions that you'll see next week.

00:16:16.000 That's great. So, you know, when the Project Veritas breakup went public, I noticed there seemed to—it turned into, like, let's call it a little bit of a proxy war with what seemed to be a lot of Trump supporters sort of vocally having your back, and then some of the more— Like, DeSantis established many people, not so much.

00:16:35.000 Am I reading too much into that?

00:16:37.000 Is there anything that that, you know, reveals about, you know, Project Veritas or maybe, you know, Matt Tamarind and some of the behavior of all of this?

00:16:45.000 Because it was really interesting.

00:16:47.000 Like, the lines were very distinct.

00:16:48.000 The people that had, you know, that stuck with Project Veritas corporate were very much that way, whereas sort of it felt like all of the Trump people were very much with you and your mission.

00:17:03.000 I don't know.

00:17:05.000 From my perspective and what I went through, I am choosing to, I guess for lack of a better way of putting it, take the high road on this and not even feed into it because if I say anything at all, and I certainly am allowed to in the sense that I'll speak about anything, But I feel like any reaction I give is just going to be used against me.

00:17:29.000 It's just going to be weaponized.

00:17:31.000 I wish them well.

00:17:36.000 There's room for a lot of people doing this.

00:17:39.000 We need a lot of people exposing this.

00:17:41.000 I gave this 45-minute long departing...

00:17:46.000 I don't know if you saw that, but it was back February 20th, my last day there, and I said everything there is to say about the whole thing, everything I knew.

00:17:57.000 There are circumstantial evidence and some things that I could opine on, but I really don't want to say something unless I actually have evidence of it.

00:18:07.000 And in that speech, I talked to my staff about what I know to be 100% true.

00:18:12.000 And I learned a lot.

00:18:13.000 You know, life is about learning.

00:18:16.000 I mean, things happen in life and sometimes unfair things happen, but we learn from it and we become better as a result of it.

00:18:23.000 I mean, one of the things I learned is about boards.

00:18:26.000 When you're a non-profit, it's not owned by anybody.

00:18:30.000 There's a board of directors. And right now, I 100% own OMG. And I will never let anybody influence or stop me or anything from...

00:18:45.000 I'm saying the stories I want to tell, saying what I want to say and doing what I want to do.

00:18:50.000 And I'll probably be a more effective messenger as a result of this.

00:18:53.000 Learning more about people and more about how to run a company.

00:18:58.000 I spent 14 years, 15 years building the credibility of an institution by Year after year, day after day, doing what I felt was right.

00:19:11.000 And I think it's important for people to do what's right.

00:19:14.000 Not what donors tell you to do or what advertisers tell you to do.

00:19:18.000 And sometimes there's a lack of a distinction there.

00:19:21.000 I never did what donors told me to do.

00:19:24.000 I did what I felt was right and we built quite a movement as a result of it.

00:19:31.000 And I'm going to do the exact same thing in a different way.

00:19:34.000 I'm going to do it in a better way, I think, because I've learned from what I've been through.

00:19:40.000 Fair enough. So you talk about, you know, credibility for a second.

00:19:43.000 You know, why is it that liberal journalists are always so quick to try to discredit your stories?

00:19:49.000 And they, you know, they seem to fail.

00:19:51.000 I think you used to have a sort of a wall of retribution where people had to come back and apologize and retract their statements about it.

00:19:59.000 But if you put something out within seconds, they're discrediting it almost faster than they could have possibly even watched What you actually said, what you actually discovered.

00:20:11.000 Yeah, I call this the reverse Gandhi.

00:20:14.000 So Gandhi once said something like, first they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they attack you.

00:20:19.000 And with me it was like, first they attack me, then they eventually just try to ignore me.

00:20:26.000 In the beginning they said the tapes were doctored.

00:20:28.000 They said the tapes were edited.

00:20:30.000 Now they don't really say that anymore.

00:20:32.000 And I think it's because...

00:20:34.000 Most people can see right through that.

00:20:35.000 It's like, what do you mean the tapes are edited?

00:20:37.000 Give us an example of an actual edit.

00:20:39.000 They can never name an example, right?

00:20:42.000 So there's that.

00:20:45.000 But I think by and large, there's a part of me that actually would say that Believe it or not, when it comes to me and what I'm doing and hopefully what happens next week too, that people are actually more united.

00:21:00.000 Let me give you an example.

00:21:01.000 When the FBI raided my home and my colleagues, Spencer and Eric's home, Former reporters of Project Veritas.

00:21:11.000 The ACLU, the American Civil Liberties Union, came to my defense.

00:21:15.000 That should shock you.

00:21:16.000 It should shock your audience. It really should.

00:21:18.000 It feels like, therefore, anything but civil liberties these days.

00:21:22.000 Right. But when it comes to me, I think there are some really fundamental things at issue here.

00:21:27.000 The First Amendment, right?

00:21:28.000 The Fourth Amendment, the right to not have your reporter's notebook seized because you're asking the president for a comment.

00:21:35.000 Joe Biden, we asked him for comment.

00:21:38.000 These are things that we should really unite people.

00:21:41.000 So I believe that things are getting better.

00:21:44.000 They may want to hate me, but oftentimes it's not the methods that they hate.

00:21:48.000 It's the who I'm investigating thing.

00:21:52.000 So hopefully over time, people are starting to see that what we do kind of unites people even more than it divides people.

00:22:01.000 So how big was the wall of retractions?

00:22:06.000 Oh man, it wasn't big enough.

00:22:11.000 Yeah, well, they did that to me also. 0.99

00:22:14.000 I had a couple, you know, during the Russia, Russia, Russia, I was like three or four times, you know, the walls are closing in, Don Jr., XYZ, and it turns out to be all bullshit. 0.91

00:22:23.000 But, you know, they won't even retract the story when they know it's wrong, right? 0.67

00:22:27.000 The Adam Schiff when he changed the date in the emails and all this kind of stuff.

00:22:32.000 And it's like, here's the originals.

00:22:33.000 Like, what are you talking about? And, oh, well, they just move on and they go right to ignore.

00:22:39.000 It's like whack-a-mole.

00:22:41.000 You're always trying to get the retraction.

00:22:43.000 The other thing is that I took so much satisfaction in that because even their little victories, their little accomplishments, so people loved them.

00:22:51.000 Sometimes I felt like there's a proverbial saying, you're farting into the wind.

00:22:56.000 This is really making a difference.

00:22:57.000 People loved them because you're getting little victories.

00:23:03.000 We talked to the general counsel of these Of these news organizations and we talked to them and they'd say, okay, we'd actually build good relationships just by virtue of emailing the bosses at these news organizations.

00:23:18.000 Some of these are not bad people.

00:23:19.000 They're just lawyers working for NBC or, you know, what was the biggest?

00:23:23.000 The one we got the most retractions from was Newsweek.

00:23:27.000 I didn't even realize Newsweek still existed.

00:23:29.000 I thought they got rid of their magazine.

00:23:32.000 I guess they store it on the internet. They basically don't.

00:23:34.000 Yeah, exactly. They basically don't.

00:23:36.000 And there was one time we got a retraction from a, I think it was a Newsweek guy, or Daily Beast guy, one or the other, I can't tell the difference.

00:23:43.000 And he was called a, quote, breaking news intern.

00:23:48.000 So they had a breaking news intern and then I gave air to the fact that there exists someone called breaking news intern and then like they let the breaking news intern go.

00:23:59.000 So for me it was like therapeutic to just get up in front of a camera for 10 minutes and do this and I'll see how I'll continue this.

00:24:08.000 But I think people are afraid to report on my stories now because they're going to get a retraction request.

00:24:17.000 Yeah, no, I had a similar instance with one of the recently bankrupted sort of leftist or, you know, journalistic entities, so to speak, where they came to me a couple years ago and they were like, in 2000, it was like 13 years earlier or something, it was like, you were on Jeffrey Epstein's plane and we have two people that will say that I was like, I wasn't.

00:24:39.000 Like, I guess I went to some event that apparently he was at or something and They were like, well, we're writing it.

00:24:46.000 We're doing this. And literally, it was one of those weird things.

00:24:49.000 I remember who I flew down with, a friend of mine on his plane.

00:24:52.000 And his pilot had the records from 13 years ago.

00:24:55.000 So after this long back and forth of like, hey, if you do this, I'm going to sue you.

00:25:00.000 And here's the flight logs that show you that I wasn't with him, yada, yada, yada.

00:25:04.000 It was like I crushed them.

00:25:06.000 They didn't care about the truth.

00:25:07.000 They just wanted to put this out there, even when I proved that it wasn't. 0.98

00:25:11.000 But then I was like, hey, if you do it with this proof, I'm going to sue your asses off. 0.60

00:25:16.000 It was like I ruined their year. 0.84

00:25:18.000 And I'm like, it's sort of weird.

00:25:19.000 Like you have, you know, 56 or whatever it was, Bill Clinton trips, and you're just trying

00:25:24.000 to put me on a plane with this guy like that.

00:25:26.000 I have no idea that I've never met.

00:25:29.000 Seems sort of weird.

00:25:30.000 And yet that's the level of credibility that these guys have.

00:25:33.000 It's not about the truth.

00:25:35.000 It's about what they can do to their political enemies.

00:25:37.000 Yeah, they're not used to people fighting back.

00:25:41.000 They're not used to that.

00:25:43.000 It was remarkable.

00:25:46.000 It's important work to hold them accountable.

00:25:49.000 Honesty, one of the great ironies of my life is that I've been...

00:25:52.000 You know, called a liar for 10 years.

00:25:55.000 It was only until recently, in the last few years, that I think things really, really took off.

00:26:01.000 But for 10 years of my life, I was defamed and targeted and attacked.

00:26:06.000 Just merciless love.

00:26:07.000 I mean, you understand a lot of how that works.

00:26:11.000 I promise you, James, if someone gets it, it's me.

00:26:14.000 Trust me, I understand.

00:26:15.000 People often say that...

00:26:17.000 I often, like... 0.86

00:26:20.000 It's not to be a victim, but I'm like, damn, what I'm going through with these lawsuits and the diary thing with the FBI. And they go, well, if you think you have it bad, you should talk to this other guy that was in the White House.

00:26:33.000 But my point is, for 10 years, I was going through all that.

00:26:39.000 And it was just remarkable how many retractions that I was able to obtain from the media.

00:26:45.000 And I think I've made like one or two mistakes in my career.

00:26:48.000 And they're on the website.

00:26:50.000 One or two mistakes.

00:26:51.000 And they weren't even big mistakes.

00:26:52.000 They were like, I didn't wear the pimp costume in the video.

00:26:57.000 I wore it in the B-roll.

00:26:59.000 But I clearly presented myself as a pimp.

00:27:01.000 So anyway, it's just crazy what's happening in our world.

00:27:04.000 Up is down. Left is right.

00:27:06.000 It's black is white. It's just nuts.

00:27:08.000 Yeah, I can't help but think that if it was like, you know, the Don Jr.

00:27:11.000 diary, you're obviously talking about the Ashley Biden diary and stuff like that.

00:27:15.000 I know you went through a lot of headaches with it.

00:27:17.000 They've tried tying me into that one somehow as well and all of this craziness.

00:27:21.000 But, you know, I can't help but wonder, like, if it was mine and I said the things that she said in there, that it would be a really big story.

00:27:29.000 It wouldn't be Secret Service trying to, you know, get a hold of it and people trying to be arrested and all of this stuff.

00:27:34.000 I think it would be front page news and Yeah, the question is, would they be raiding New York Times reporters, if a tipster sent them that information and if they were trying to corroborate it, that's the question.

00:28:13.000 would they raid New York Times journalists like Adam Goldman, Mark Bazzetti, and Mike Schmidt,

00:28:19.000 national security reporters, who by the way, deal in classified information and documents stolen

00:28:26.000 by somebody else and sent to them all the time.

00:28:29.000 That's the bread and butter of what those guys do.

00:28:32.000 So to celebrate in those rights and then celebrate when another journalist,

00:28:37.000 his head is chopped off, is really the height of evil.

00:28:41.000 And it shows them for what they are, which is they have no principles.

00:28:44.000 And by the way, some of them do have principles because they've come to my defense.

00:28:47.000 Like Ben Smith at the New York Times tweeted out, journalists should not be cheerleading this attack on James O'Keefe.

00:28:53.000 I mean, Ed Snowden's organization came to my defense.

00:28:55.000 I think that on some basic level, even they are shamed into having to defend me because they know how horrible it looks.

00:29:04.000 And frankly, they're worried it's going to happen to them.

00:29:07.000 Well, they should be, but I think, you know, you see that.

00:29:11.000 I mean, you saw that with the FBI raid of Mar-a-Lago, right?

00:29:13.000 The documents that are classified, you know, within two hours, there's pictures in the Washington Post of the documents that they spread out on the floor.

00:29:21.000 I mean, it's those people in government that are enforcing, you know, are supposed to enforce the rules that are actually leaking to certain.

00:29:29.000 They're not going to leak to you. Yeah.

00:29:30.000 You're getting them from actual credible sources.

00:29:32.000 But documents that have been under lock and key, under guard of the Secret Service, amazingly enough, the first time anything actually leaks about them is from the FBI to the Washington Post.

00:29:43.000 So, you know, again, just in terms of alignment of interests, what they're supposed to be doing, I mean, you know, this is a pretty messed up world we live in.

00:29:53.000 Yeah, and they wouldn't leak to me, but what they would not know is that they were being recorded unbeknownst to them by me or my people.

00:30:01.000 So that's why we use hidden camera videos, because that's when you're more honest.

00:30:06.000 And frankly, when the people in the government or the administrative state are leaking to journalists, oftentimes they're manipulating the journalists.

00:30:18.000 They're giving them untrue information.

00:30:19.000 Of course. According to people familiar with the matter, I mean, you know how the game is.

00:30:23.000 Look at the shiny object. It's right over here.

00:30:24.000 Follow it. Don't look where we actually...

00:30:26.000 And the journalists allow themselves to be manipulated, especially at the New York Times and Washington Post.

00:30:31.000 And that's why it's so important to see the video, to see the lips moving.

00:30:35.000 That's why I do what I do.

00:30:36.000 And it's a method that used to be more frowned upon.

00:30:38.000 I think it's more appreciated now.

00:30:41.000 And I think it's going to be much more – it's going to broaden its appeal to thousands of people because, like I keep saying this, they can stop one man.

00:30:51.000 They can probably shut me down, turn me into a martyr, although that will backfire.

00:30:55.000 But they can't stop – They can't stop a thousand, ten thousand.

00:31:00.000 That's what they're really afraid of.

00:31:01.000 They're really afraid of the people, just like that scene in Gladiator with Russell Crowe and the Emperor.

00:31:06.000 They're really afraid of the people.

00:31:09.000 And that's what's happening, I think.

00:31:12.000 It's backfiring. Everything's backfiring on them, in my opinion.

00:31:16.000 I think so. You know, the pendulum is overcorrected so far.

00:31:19.000 I see that. And I say it all the time on this show.

00:31:21.000 I say, you know, if it's just Trump going out there by himself, you know, they can take him out.

00:31:27.000 They can take out the most powerful guy in the world.

00:31:29.000 If one person's taking all the slings and arrows...

00:31:32.000 You know, you spread that out over half of America, 175 million people, all of a sudden it's not so easy.

00:31:38.000 It changes the dynamic.

00:31:40.000 So if you're the only guy out there, yeah, sure, they can figure out a way to take out the one guy.

00:31:44.000 If you've got thousands of people sort of independently out there doing this, you know, it changes the dynamic entirely.

00:31:53.000 Yep, it does. And I think that they're afraid of the people doing this in Moss.

00:31:58.000 O'Keefe Media Group, if you click on the upper right hand of the screen, you can scroll down and become a journalist and we will ship you cameras.

00:32:05.000 We're shipped out hundreds of cameras to people across the country.

00:32:10.000 In fact, someone just broke a story in Miami last week with Anthony Fauci and NIH. Someone recorded a convention and Think of it like Uber for journalism, dispatching cameras to people and dispatching people to places where they can record.

00:32:23.000 That's what they're afraid of.

00:32:25.000 It's very hard in today's world to do the right thing.

00:32:30.000 I tweeted out recently, they hammer you into submission.

00:32:34.000 If you stand tall and proud, they just want to hammer anybody into submission to get in line.

00:32:40.000 So the time is right now.

00:32:42.000 And if you're watching this and you're thinking, oh, I don't want to do what James does.

00:32:45.000 I have a family and I'm concerned about my job.

00:32:48.000 This isn't for everybody, but I think increasingly you have to make a decision.

00:32:53.000 Are you willing to follow your conscience?

00:32:55.000 Is it all about the paycheck for you?

00:32:57.000 Or are you willing to do the right thing?

00:33:00.000 That's what we're here for.

00:33:02.000 That's what OMG is here for.

00:33:03.000 That's what I'm here for.

00:33:04.000 I'm here for people who want to follow their conscience and do the right thing.

00:33:07.000 And I think there's a lot more people out there that feel that way now than there used to be.

00:33:13.000 A hundred percent. And I imagine you're going to get a lot of people that are watching this that are interested because so many people on this show, I even see it in the comments here, what can we do?

00:33:21.000 How can we help? Well, this may be a way.

00:33:23.000 I mean, if you're entrenched in some of these organizations, if you're a conservative stuck in one of these woke corporations and you feel like you're getting trampled on, you can think whatever you want, the radical leftist side, you can be the most crazy person in the world.

00:33:37.000 And You'll be fine at HR, but if you're a God-fearing Christian in some of these corporations, I feel like you'd be thrown out in two seconds. 0.86

00:33:43.000 It's like, guess what? You guys can be a part of this.

00:33:45.000 Because I know enough people that, you know, they've tried to get along.

00:33:48.000 They've tried to put it, but every value that they have is being trampled on.

00:33:54.000 And I think so many of them are going to hit a breaking point.

00:33:56.000 So, you know, guys, go check it out. Go sign up with James.

00:33:59.000 And, you know, if you're at that point where you have something interesting to give,

00:34:03.000 this could be your way of helping and more importantly, fighting back.

00:34:08.000 But, you know, I would.

00:34:10.000 I would put it back on your audience, too, when they say, how can I help you?

00:34:14.000 I mean, I get that message a hundred times a day, literally.

00:34:17.000 I mean, emails, how can I help you?

00:34:19.000 I can't be...

00:34:20.000 I mean, it's not scalable.

00:34:22.000 I'll just be interviewing people all day long, and I certainly can't put everyone on my payroll.

00:34:26.000 I would say, what can you do to help?

00:34:31.000 That's that cliche from JFK. What can you do to help the mission?

00:34:37.000 And I was talking to this guy recently, and he said, well, I don't...

00:34:40.000 I don't know. And I said, what are you passionate about?

00:34:42.000 He said, well, I hate what's happening in the schools here.

00:34:45.000 He happened to be from Utah.

00:34:46.000 And I said, well, have you gone to your local school board meeting?

00:34:49.000 He says, I didn't know that I could do that.

00:34:50.000 And I said, yes, you can. So I would say make an attempt to figure out an area of society, perhaps something that you're passionate about.

00:34:59.000 For me, it was always media.

00:35:01.000 I was always very passionate about The lack of – the bias and the lack of fact-finding in journalism.

00:35:07.000 So I started a college newspaper at Rutgers where I went to school because I was passionate about that and I turned my righteous indignation into action.

00:35:18.000 So for all of you out there thinking, well, I don't – how can I help James?

00:35:24.000 I would say how can – what do you think you can do?

00:35:28.000 I'll help you do it, but you got to do your homework wherever you live, whatever institution you want to investigate.

00:35:34.000 If you have an idea, let me help make that happen.

00:35:37.000 I would say that's the mission of OMG. Well, 100%.

00:35:41.000 I mean, listen, by the way, I think you nailed it.

00:35:43.000 Listen, I think so many of the breaking stories, it's like you get people to go on dates with other people, and that's when they spill the beans.

00:35:50.000 But I think you nailed a certain subject when you talked about school boards.

00:35:55.000 There's so much insanity going on, and I think...

00:35:58.000 People can turn a blind eye to some of the wokeness and stuff like that.

00:36:17.000 So I think the school board sort of approach is number one.

00:36:22.000 When people talk about elections, I was like, hey, get elected to your school board.

00:36:25.000 I think we can do so much more not letting our children be indoctrinated for 20 years than you can running for Congress or something like that.

00:36:32.000 So people can start small, but that is definitely, to me, that'd be a number one place.

00:36:38.000 And it's also where just...

00:36:40.000 It feels like the extremists are lurking.

00:36:43.000 So I think there's so much opportunity there.

00:36:45.000 The stories I hear all over the place are so bad, and yet many of them will go unexposed because no one's in there doing that.

00:36:53.000 Well, it's that you don't mess with the mama bears.

00:36:56.000 That's the thing in society.

00:36:58.000 You don't mess with the children.

00:37:00.000 You don't mess with the kids.

00:37:01.000 So increasingly, it's like, where do you find consensus in this country where everything's so political and so tribal?

00:37:09.000 Everything's now become so politicized.

00:37:12.000 I don't agree with that.

00:37:14.000 I understand it's reality.

00:37:16.000 It's a lack of integrity.

00:37:17.000 It's just everything's is whose tribe you're in, who you're voting for.

00:37:20.000 It's like, well, there's one area where actually, I think 88% of people, I say 88,

00:37:26.000 because I have to account for, you know, whatever 8% of the communists out there,

00:37:30.000 extreme, whatever they call themselves.

00:37:32.000 But 88% of Americans, you don't mess with our underage daughter. 1.00

00:37:38.000 I think that's a fair observation.

00:37:42.000 So that's a great area to go expose.

00:37:45.000 Go to these... Drag reading hours and just see what you find.

00:37:51.000 It doesn't mean you have to publish it.

00:37:52.000 Ask questions. Who's behind that?

00:37:54.000 What's going on? I mean, all that's separating you from doing that, the people out there in the comments, the only thing separating you from doing that is yourself.

00:38:04.000 Overcome your fear and just go do it.

00:38:08.000 Leave our kids alone. 0.91

00:38:09.000 And again, you would have thought years ago, a couple years ago, that would have been a 100% issue.

00:38:16.000 And yet there's plenty of Democrats that are fine with this indoctrination and this sexualization of our children. 0.87

00:38:21.000 It's truly scary.

00:38:23.000 So yeah, that's another place you guys check it out.

00:38:26.000 The Joe Biden White House did condemn...

00:38:29.000 I don't know what to call him.

00:38:32.000 I'm calling him boobies guy. 0.90

00:38:34.000 I mean, they condemn that.

00:38:37.000 I thought that was interesting that they actually were shamed by that.

00:38:41.000 They didn't embrace it.

00:38:43.000 Well, it took them a little while, but, you know, this is from the White House that told us they were going to bring decency back to the White House.

00:38:49.000 Turns out that was a major fail. 0.82

00:38:50.000 But, yeah, no, it's nuts.

00:38:53.000 But I love that as a place to start.

00:38:55.000 So, you know, you can't give away all your secrets, obviously, or maybe you will in sort of the class for the people that you're teaching how to do this.

00:39:02.000 But how do you get all these different people from all these different investigations to go on dates?

00:39:06.000 Because that seems like...

00:39:09.000 The big stories, they're there sort of under the premise of it being a date.

00:39:14.000 Do these people ever fall in love with the undercover journalists?

00:39:18.000 What are the strategies to getting in there and breaking those big stories?

00:39:24.000 Well, shameless plug, yes, we will be revealing a lot of these things in those classes.

00:39:32.000 I'm calling it O'Keefe Academy.

00:39:34.000 We've already filmed one on ethics.

00:39:36.000 Ethics is the most important because you've got to have integrity.

00:39:39.000 We don't sleep with people to get information.

00:39:42.000 We don't record in people's bedrooms.

00:39:45.000 Those sorts of things. There are lines we don't cross and sometimes it's hard to know if you're starting out what the ethics boundaries are.

00:39:54.000 But we get information from people in every possible way you can imagine.

00:39:58.000 I mean, you imagine it, we get the information.

00:40:03.000 We've met some of our subjects in airports, in TSA lines.

00:40:07.000 We've met our subjects because they'll send us a cold message.

00:40:10.000 It's unlikely that a government agent would just send me a signal message.

00:40:14.000 That's highly unlikely. In most of those cases, they're trying to set me up.

00:40:18.000 As you can imagine, people are always trying to set me up.

00:40:21.000 Just two months ago, an FBI guy sent me a bizarre message saying that it was perfectly fine to record FBI agents, but it was not okay to be recording those union officials in the teachers union.

00:40:31.000 That didn't make any sense, and it was an immediate red flag.

00:40:34.000 Yeah. Yes, some of our girls do meet with subjects over various dating apps. 1.00

00:40:43.000 And sometimes it's challenging to have one, two, three, four meetings without even touching the person.

00:40:49.000 But they'll have to create an alibi or a reason why it makes sense that they don't kiss or touch a few dates.

00:40:56.000 And oftentimes undercover work is about finding what someone needs We're good to go.

00:41:23.000 Many, many, many more of these lessons.

00:41:25.000 I'm just covering the 30-second version.

00:41:28.000 We'll be covered in these classes that you can sign up for on O'KeefeMediaGroup.com.

00:41:32.000 You pay to subscribe.

00:41:33.000 You'll get access to this, and we'll certify people in being undercover journalists.

00:41:39.000 Very exciting thing that's happening next month.

00:41:43.000 Well, that sounds awesome. So I'd like to ask you about, you know, you had a good friendship with Andrew Breitbart, you know, someone who definitely, you know, changed a lot of the landscape of journalism, someone who was unafraid and tried to be discredited.

00:41:55.000 I think, you know, one of the institutions now that's actually doing some real journalism work.

00:42:00.000 What influence did that friendship with Andrew Breitbart have on your career and your trajectory?

00:42:06.000 Because it seems like that would be a big, big part of it.

00:42:10.000 I mean Andrew was a force of nature and he died March 1, 2012, so some 13 years ago.

00:42:21.000 He was tweeting constantly.

00:42:26.000 He was transcribing things.

00:42:28.000 He was running his company. He was the face of the company.

00:42:31.000 Him and I were very different in many respects.

00:42:34.000 I was at the time, and even today, slightly more introverted.

00:42:38.000 And he was more extroverted.

00:42:40.000 That's hard to believe. I've seen you chasing people down the streets.

00:42:44.000 But I get it. There's a persona on stage and there's a persona off stage.

00:42:48.000 So it changes. Yeah, I mean, I'm kind of a performer in the sense that that's that part of me, that justice part of me that's performing to expose this topic.

00:42:59.000 But generally speaking, you know, I don't necessarily derive my energy from shaking hundreds of people's hands, like many people in politics do.

00:43:09.000 But Andrew was this larger than life presence and he was able to hold media accountable

00:43:16.000 while also being friendly with journalists, which is very difficult to do.

00:43:20.000 It's a very difficult balance to strike.

00:43:22.000 I would say he was one of my mentors, particularly when it came to how the media operates.

00:43:27.000 Now the media has changed, Don, since Andrew was alive.

00:43:30.000 When Andrew was alive, when I knew him between 2009 and 2012,

00:43:34.000 people had conversations with each other.

00:43:36.000 Like he would actually talk to Dave Weigel at Slate and the Washington Post.

00:43:40.000 Yeah, there was a pretense of objectivity.

00:43:43.000 There's a pretense of honesty and that feels like it's gone, right?

00:43:47.000 There's no more conversations anymore.

00:43:49.000 I mean, everyone's in their own camp and has a defense posture.

00:43:55.000 Twitter is more robust than it used to be.

00:43:58.000 You're kind of preaching to your audience.

00:44:00.000 So in the media landscape that Andrew...

00:44:04.000 Yeah.

00:44:09.000 was how the media ecosystem worked.

00:44:12.000 And he could like sort of post something to Drudge, this is in 2010,

00:44:18.000 and then suddenly everyone was talking about it.

00:44:19.000 So it was just, I was able to observe, it was almost like a virus.

00:44:25.000 The content that you put on the internet would spread in this wildfire way.

00:44:31.000 And he really understood that in a way that no one I've ever, ever met since understands.

00:44:38.000 However, the world is changing.

00:44:39.000 And if Andrew was alive to see it, he would have had to evolve with the changing media that's evolving as well.

00:44:47.000 So you talk about being a showman.

00:44:49.000 I want to get to Acorn one second, but you talked about being a showman.

00:44:54.000 Explain to us your obsession with show tunes.

00:44:57.000 It's actually something I think you share a little bit in common with my father, who loves a lot of that theatrical musicals and stuff like that.

00:45:04.000 I got to hear a little bit about this and where it came from.

00:45:08.000 Well, I don't know where it came from.

00:45:09.000 God, my parents aren't into musical theater.

00:45:15.000 I saw... When I was 15, I saw Little Shop of Horrors in high school, and I don't know why, because I didn't like the movie version with Rick Moranis very much, but I saw the Off-Broadway version, and I don't know why, but I resonated with Seymour.

00:45:34.000 So I tried out for The Wiz, and then I tried out for George Gershwin's Crazy For You, and I, at 18 years old, got the leading role, Bobby Child, in George Gershwin's Crazy For You.

00:45:44.000 So I was tap dancing and singing and dancing around.

00:45:47.000 And everyone came to watch it.

00:45:49.000 This is my high school colleagues.

00:45:52.000 And their mouth dropped because is that the same James O'Keefe that sits in the back of math class?

00:45:58.000 That's a different human being.

00:46:00.000 So why does that matter and what does this have to do with anything about exposing corruption in the truth?

00:46:04.000 Because I think and some people may not understand this, but I think in order to seek what is true, I mean, truth, talent.

00:46:18.000 Roseanne Barr told me this recently.

00:46:20.000 Talent is truth. Excellence is truth.

00:46:23.000 The good, the true, and the beautiful.

00:46:25.000 It's an artistic thing, not a political thing.

00:46:29.000 There can only be one reality.

00:46:31.000 There can only be one truth. So I think being an artist, being a performer, has helped me immensely.

00:46:37.000 In my storytelling, in my pursuit of what's right and what's true.

00:46:42.000 And frankly, some of the people that work with me have this background and more power to them because you have to be an improvisational actor to go meet with someone undercover and think of all these creative elicitation ideas.

00:46:56.000 So I think there's a lot in common with performing and truth-seeking.

00:47:02.000 Well, I agree.

00:47:03.000 And I get it a little bit myself because it's like you give me a mic and a lot of people in an audience and I can go for an hour.

00:47:08.000 But like on my own, I'm actually sort of a recluse.

00:47:10.000 So it's it's hard to sort of juxtapose those two things.

00:47:13.000 But I do know you have a hard out.

00:47:15.000 So I do have to ask. We touched on Acorn a little bit.

00:47:18.000 But when you look back on that experience, I mean, literally, you know, dressing as a pimp, going to get funds to start a brothel.

00:47:27.000 You know, when you broke that story, what do you remember about the experience?

00:47:30.000 What did you learn from it? It was, I mean, hilarious and so extreme and yet almost perfect in that this was one of these just corrupted institutions that you could actually do that and people, you know, you could have been considered serious because that's basically what they were doing.

00:47:48.000 I wrote a book about this called Breakthrough.

00:47:50.000 It became a New York Times bestseller.

00:47:52.000 I wrote it 12 years ago.

00:47:55.000 I didn't eat for a week because I was a one-man band.

00:48:02.000 Hannah was my colleague, but I didn't have any producers or any editors.

00:48:07.000 So I produced the videos.

00:48:08.000 I stayed up all night, and then I would release them.

00:48:10.000 So I think I was very skinny at the time, but I lost an additional eight pounds to whatever meat I had on my bones.

00:48:17.000 So if you look at images of me...

00:48:19.000 From 2009, I looked like a prisoner of war.

00:48:21.000 I mean it was really bad.

00:48:23.000 And I remember CNN called me – I remember the day.

00:48:28.000 It was September 10, 2009.

00:48:32.000 CNN called my phone 70 times.

00:48:36.000 And Andrew Breitbart said, don't pick up the phone.

00:48:38.000 They're just going to personalize.

00:48:39.000 They're going to make advice. So I followed his advice and I did not give a single interview.

00:48:43.000 And they were unable to personalize it about me.

00:48:46.000 It became about the stuff in the video.

00:48:48.000 And then we released the videos one at a time.

00:48:50.000 And we still do that to this day.

00:48:52.000 We release them one at a time. Hint, hint, next week they'll be one at a time.

00:48:56.000 And they'll say, well, that's just an isolated incident.

00:48:58.000 They're so tempted to say, well, that's just one person doing that fraudulent act.

00:49:03.000 Yeah. And then you release more tapes and then more tapes and then more tapes.

00:49:07.000 So you kind of have to play – you have to be guerrilla in not only how you obtain the information but guerrilla in how you release the information.

00:49:16.000 And I kind of knew that because I had done some lesser stories like some Planned Parenthood videos and some things in college.

00:49:22.000 I knew it intuitively but to live it and to see the Washington Post – Carol Lenning at the Washington Post say that I'm racist.

00:49:31.000 For investigating ACORN. It was like, I was so shocked and appalled by that state.

00:49:37.000 She had to print a correction, by the way.

00:49:39.000 Front page. But nobody ever remembered that part.

00:49:41.000 Well, now that's like the easy button of the political left.

00:49:43.000 Like, everything's racist.

00:49:44.000 Humor is racist. Life is racist.

00:49:46.000 You can't have a comment that's not racist unless...

00:49:49.000 But it hurt.

00:49:51.000 And how could it not, you know?

00:49:53.000 By the way, then it was 100%.

00:49:55.000 That was, you know, before it was used on everything that they just don't like, right?

00:50:02.000 I think that Carol Lenning's implication was, this is the report at the Washington Post, that ACORN registers black people to vote.

00:50:10.000 James O'Keefe investigated ACORN. Therefore, James O'Keefe doesn't want black people to vote.

00:50:15.000 It was like so... 1.00

00:50:17.000 Stupid. And then we got a correction. 1.00

00:50:21.000 But I remember feeling – I remember it affected me.

00:50:24.000 All this stuff – this is 15 years ago.

00:50:27.000 It really, really affects you.

00:50:30.000 It's hard to eat. It's hard to sleep.

00:50:32.000 And it took me about – I want to say five years, six, seven years before.

00:50:38.000 It wasn't until probably that investigation in Democracy Partners when I met you that I really, really got over it.

00:50:44.000 I'm like, you know what? I don't really care what they say about me.

00:50:47.000 If it's not true, I'm going to focus on what I can control.

00:50:51.000 Yeah, mine ended when they called me a traitor to our country with the Russia-Russia hoax, when I'm like, I don't even understand.

00:50:58.000 At that point, you know, that was brutal initially.

00:51:00.000 And then, you know, luckily for me, I guess I got some of the Trump genes.

00:51:03.000 I just got hardened to it.

00:51:04.000 And I was like, okay, now we fight.

00:51:06.000 And, you know, ever since then, you know, they do it to me daily.

00:51:09.000 And it's like... It should bother me more.

00:51:11.000 I'm not saying that's the normal emotional response.

00:51:13.000 I'm not saying it's right.

00:51:15.000 I'm just saying I'm probably blessed to be able to compartmentalize it that way because if it did get to you the way that it did initially, like it appears like it got to you initially, it'd be pretty hard to get through the day.

00:51:28.000 Yeah, it was difficult, and I consider myself a relatively fearless person who doesn't focus on the secondary effects or the defamation on Wikipedia.

00:51:41.000 But I'm human, and we all are.

00:51:44.000 And for a good person to do this, unless you're a masochist or some type of sicko, for a good person, it's really hard. 0.86

00:51:52.000 And all I can say is let's... 0.84

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00:52:17.000 Stay tuned. Well, James, thank you so much for that.

00:52:19.000 By the way, if there's one thing, one theme that I'm seeing just in the comments, if I'm looking down, it's because I'm looking at the comments.

00:52:26.000 It's that, you know, my watchers, they think you're a hero.

00:52:30.000 I've seen that pop up dozens of times.

00:52:32.000 So keep up the good work, guys.

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00:52:37.000 Because we need guys doing what James is doing.

00:52:40.000 So thanks so much, James, for being here.

00:52:42.000 Really appreciate you. Good luck with all of it.

00:52:44.000 And we will get you back on here soon because I'm looking forward to what this big breaking story is.

00:52:49.000 I'm sure we will cover it next week.

00:52:51.000 But now, guys, we still have some...

00:52:55.000 Breaking news to cover.

00:52:56.000 A lot's happened, obviously, in the last couple of days.

00:53:00.000 Things I take rather personally.

00:53:02.000 My father, your favorite president, was arraigned in Miami as part of Joe Biden's latest attempt at election interference.

00:53:13.000 Guys, I don't think it's going to work.

00:53:15.000 I see the poll numbers. I see the rapid response numbers.

00:53:18.000 People are understanding what's going on.

00:53:20.000 They see the pylon.

00:53:22.000 They see what's happening and how they're trying to take out Not just the leading political opposition to the regime in charge, but the leading opposition to the Uni Party, to permanent Washington.

00:53:37.000 And the American people get it.

00:53:40.000 I think the people doing this are gonna regret it.

00:53:43.000 When we send President Trump back to the White House in 24.

00:53:49.000 So I have no doubt that we'll succeed.

00:53:52.000 Just look at how normal people reacted, because I think that's really important.

00:53:56.000 Normal people.

00:53:58.000 Not permanent Washington, D.C. Not, you know, Rachel Maddow and fake Tapper and the people on CNN in their little echo chambers.

00:54:06.000 We refuse to cover this because Trump's lying.

00:54:09.000 You know, like, they didn't lie when they were talking about Russia, Russia, Russia for six years.

00:54:14.000 You know, fake tapper, he broke a couple of the stories about me.

00:54:17.000 I showed them where they were wrong, and they still wouldn't retract it.

00:54:20.000 Even months later, when it was in the Mueller report, they didn't retract it.

00:54:24.000 You know, it was good for clicks, so they leave it up there.

00:54:27.000 But look at how normal people reacted at a very famous Cuban restaurant in Miami on Tuesday.

00:54:34.000 There was so much love, again, that CNN's fake tapper...

00:54:38.000 Ordered the control room to cut away because, you know, they can't show you that part. 1.00

00:54:43.000 Trump's an evil dictator despot. 0.94

00:54:45.000 Not the guy that's actually an evil dictator despot who's trying to lock up the political opposition, just so we're clear. 0.98

00:54:53.000 So check out this from Fake Tapper on CNN. Whatever this spectacle is that's unfolding before us, let's remember what this case is about.

00:55:02.000 Let's remember what this indictment charges.

00:55:04.000 Again, Donald Trump is charged with a series of federal felonies for mishandling the most sensitive government documents that we have, and for obstruction of justice, along with Walt Nauta.

00:55:16.000 Who is charged with intentionally setting up lies to the grand jury, to the FBI. Any way you look at this, and again, despite whatever may be going on in that restaurant, this case isn't going to be settled legally in a cafe.

00:55:28.000 It's going to be settled in the court based on the facts and law.

00:55:30.000 The folks in the control room, I don't need to see any more of that.

00:55:32.000 He's trying to turn this into a spectacle, into a campaign ad.

00:55:37.000 That's enough of that. We've seen it already.

00:55:41.000 Oh, a campaign ad.

00:55:42.000 Right, right, a campaign ad.

00:55:44.000 Because, again, the people of Miami, very disproportionately Cuban, Venezuelan, people who have escaped the regimes, the kinds of regimes that lock up their political opposition.

00:55:58.000 That's what they left.

00:56:00.000 So if they show love for my father, the next day was his birthday, they're singing happy birthday to him, it's because they've seen this show before.

00:56:09.000 So fake tapper Can talk about those things, and he can try to separate the reality, what people are seeing, what they've seen for now, you know, the better half of a decade, going against Trump.

00:56:26.000 How many of the conspiracy theories that they talked about, about Trump, end up being proven wrong?

00:56:31.000 About 100%.

00:56:33.000 It's not just Jake. Even Trump hater Frank Luntz understands that this is backfiring on Democrats bigly.

00:56:42.000 Check it out. Changed the dynamic.

00:56:48.000 Massively changed the narrative.

00:56:50.000 And unless they're able to put it back, then Trump absolutely, absolutely is a credible candidate.

00:56:56.000 And yes, he could win.

00:56:58.000 And my challenge to those people watching right now is that it's up to the news media, it's up to networks like this, and it's up to the prosecution to understand how voters think and feel.

00:57:10.000 Because if they don't, they will actually help Trump succeed.

00:57:16.000 So let me get this straight. The prosecution has to change their tactics to sway popular opinion.

00:57:22.000 I thought it was a legal system.

00:57:23.000 They're supposed to, right?

00:57:24.000 Because we know what it's all about, folks.

00:57:26.000 He's saying the quiet parts out loud.

00:57:29.000 They all have to adjust.

00:57:31.000 Trump's not changing the narrative.

00:57:33.000 Trump's not controlling the narrative. 1.00

00:57:35.000 They're going after him with bullshit. 1.00

00:57:39.000 It's so ridiculous that even the haters are saying it's ridiculous. 1.00

00:57:44.000 It's so contrived that everyone's seeing it. 0.99

00:57:47.000 If they didn't do that, if they just left them alone, that wouldn't be happening.

00:57:52.000 But there's even Trump haters out there that are saying, and I agree with many of them, like, hey, man, I don't really, you know, I don't want to be Trump.

00:57:59.000 I want to move on from that.

00:58:00.000 I don't like some of the this, that, and the other, whatever it may be.

00:58:03.000 But they're saying now there's too much at stake.

00:58:07.000 It's too important.

00:58:08.000 We need him in there to get rid of permanent Washington. 0.76

00:58:12.000 He's the only one that will do it.

00:58:14.000 That's evidenced by what's happening in the Republican primary polls.

00:58:18.000 Everyone else is dropping down because people understand that every single other person in there is just going to do What the establishment tells them.

00:58:30.000 They say all these things on TV, but then they fold.

00:58:32.000 You see it happen time and time again.

00:58:35.000 That's the politics of where we are.

00:58:38.000 And it's hard not to look at the politics in this case.

00:58:41.000 This is the current president arresting the leading opponent.

00:58:47.000 You know, when Vladimir Putin does that...

00:58:50.000 We are very vocal about it. 0.96

00:58:52.000 Fake Tapper, Mad Cow, all of those people, they go nuts.

00:58:59.000 And yet, they're strangely silent.

00:59:01.000 The media, who would be all over these things, when it happens in third world countries, we're talking about invasion to prevent it from happening anymore.

00:59:10.000 And yet, when it happens right here, Crickets.

00:59:14.000 Politics are even a presence in the legal team prosecuting my father.

00:59:21.000 In case you didn't know, you remember Karen Gilbert?

00:59:24.000 We mentioned her on Miami.

00:59:25.000 That's the prosecutor in Miami that Kash Patel and I discussed, right?

00:59:30.000 Here's a refresher if you missed it.

00:59:35.000 Karen Gilbert, an AUSA who I tried cases against in Miami when I was a federal public defender, was a 20-year prosecutor down there, is the deputy special counsel to Jack Smith.

00:59:47.000 She's his Weissman. It's important.

00:59:50.000 Don't listen to me. Don't listen to you.

00:59:52.000 Go pull the Ali Shagan case from 2009.

00:59:54.000 Karen Gilbert is the head of the narcotics unit at the Miami U.S. Attorney's Office, the number one prosecutor.

01:00:01.000 And you know what she does? She authorizes an illegal wiretap of the defense attorney talking to the investigator during the prosecution of that case. 1.00

01:00:11.000 And forget about reprimands and unethical conduct.

01:00:14.000 The district court judge in that case Issued a blistering opinion and was about to throw her out of the Justice Department before what?

01:00:23.000 She was reassigned out of that position and years later promoted through the ranks.

01:00:29.000 And now this same prosecutor is on the team charging Donald J. Trump while at the same time, I find it ironic, this prosecutor went before a federal judge to break attorney-client privilege.

01:00:44.000 She's got a track record. 0.85

01:00:47.000 Guys, just in case you missed it on Monday, the interview with Cash was incredible.

01:00:51.000 You should check it out. So much more detail on Jack Smith, on Karen, typical, right?

01:00:58.000 You can check it out there.

01:01:00.000 It's on Rumble, or I know Rumble will actually put the podcast up on Spotify and iTunes, usually two, three days later.

01:01:08.000 So you can check it out there as well.

01:01:09.000 So if you can't watch, you can listen while you're driving or whatever.

01:01:12.000 So check it out on Apple or Spotify.

01:01:14.000 But To continue this thought, it turns out that Karen, she's not only corrupt, but she's reportedly a Biden donor.

01:01:24.000 Yes, folks, you heard this right.

01:01:27.000 The prosecutor in Miami leading the investigation against Joe Biden's biggest political opponent is a Joe Biden donor.

01:01:40.000 Seems like that's totally legit, folks.

01:01:43.000 Totally fine, right?

01:01:45.000 We discussed sort of the, let's just say, loose ethics that Gilbert's conducted herself with in the past.

01:01:52.000 Same with Jack Smith.

01:01:54.000 Jack Smith apparently doesn't even reside in the United States right now.

01:01:57.000 I think he lives in the Netherlands.

01:01:59.000 But, you know, he's the guy they're going to bring in to go after Trump because he's a war crimes prosecutor with a shady track record who will apparently do anything to Including, let's just say, bend or break the rules to get his guy.

01:02:14.000 Gilbert is apparently a long-time Democrat donor.

01:02:19.000 Congressman Matt Gaetz revealed on Tuesday that Gilbert has, quote, made thousands of dollars in donations to Biden for president, Obama for America, the DNC, the Democrat National Committee Victory Fund, And the Obama Victory Fund, according to FEC records, which confirm all of this.

01:02:42.000 Honestly, guys, how does a case like this even move forward?

01:02:47.000 You really think that someone like this, or Jack Smith with his record and his wife producing the Michelle Obama documentary, do we really believe That between that and the ethical issues they've had in their past, that they could prosecute a case even a little bit objectively?

01:03:07.000 How can someone who's clearly a Biden backer be allowed to prosecute Biden's biggest political rival?

01:03:17.000 How is that possible?

01:03:19.000 This whole thing is a joke and a sick one at that.

01:03:22.000 They care so little about keeping this country together, about the rule of law, about the Constitution, that they don't even hide it when they're clearly acting in a corrupt fashion.

01:03:37.000 This is a political persecution to take out their opponent at all costs.

01:03:43.000 Joe Biden, we hear it all the time.

01:03:46.000 He talks about unity, right? 1.00

01:03:47.000 Then he disparages, you know, 75 million Americans, you know, in the next sentence because he's an imbecile and a moron. 1.00

01:03:55.000 But are you guys starting to feel the unity yet? 1.00

01:03:59.000 Are you feeling united?

01:04:01.000 Because I'm not. I've seen...

01:04:04.000 Everything but unity.

01:04:06.000 I've seen everything but attempted unity.

01:04:10.000 I've seen the vilification of half of the voting populace on a daily basis. 0.69

01:04:15.000 While giving a platform to the most radical, insane people out there.

01:04:19.000 That's what I've seen from this administration.

01:04:21.000 And get this, during the 8pm hour of Fox on Tuesday, you know, the lower third, the little chyron, banner read, wannabe dictator speaks at the White House after having his political rival arrested.

01:04:35.000 Actually seems pretty accurate to me, but of course, Fox actually caved to the outrage.

01:04:40.000 They probably fired, you know, the young conservative intern that did that, thinking that that would make sense on conservative TV, and released a statement.

01:04:48.000 The chyron was taken down immediately and was addressed.

01:04:51.000 In other words, that wasn't the feeling of Fox.

01:04:54.000 They're probably just fine with it.

01:04:56.000 Probably just fine with it because they're all about permanent Washington.

01:05:00.000 Just look at the people they fired in the last few weeks.

01:05:03.000 We'll understand exactly where they stand.

01:05:05.000 So, Joe Biden certainly acts like a wannabe dictator.

01:05:10.000 For example, Biden was finally asked about the alleged tapes revealing that he took bribes.

01:05:17.000 Look at his response.

01:05:19.000 Are there tapes that you accepted bribes, President Biden?

01:05:22.000 Is that true? Guys, he laughs.

01:05:27.000 He's laughing at you, at us, at every American who thinks that maybe, just maybe, we shouldn't have a president that takes bribes in the White House.

01:05:39.000 Again, folks, like, just use logic and reason for a second.

01:05:45.000 Do you really think that China gave Hunter Biden billions of dollars like a crackhead?

01:05:50.000 You think they didn't figure that out in their diligence process?

01:05:53.000 Or do you think they did it precisely because they could influence the U.S. government?

01:05:59.000 Same with Ukraine and the no-show jobs and the Russian oligarchs and all the money that came in to this guy who hadn't done anything seemingly before.

01:06:07.000 Magically, he's making millions.

01:06:09.000 Only in the places where Joe Biden has a little bit of say, control, or power.

01:06:14.000 The Shell entities are formed within minutes of Joe becoming VP, and they're off to the races.

01:06:20.000 Huh, yeah. He's laughing because he's never faced consequences.

01:06:25.000 He's laughing because he probably will never face consequences.

01:06:29.000 He's confident that he won't.

01:06:31.000 Biden was asked again today about the corruption, right?

01:06:35.000 There's someone that's saying...

01:06:38.000 That Biden himself is on tape twice and Hunter is 15 times.

01:06:42.000 Shocking, right?

01:06:43.000 Imagine how much more there is that probably isn't on tape.

01:06:47.000 I imagine it's too numerous to count.

01:06:52.000 But watch today.

01:06:53.000 The same indignation.

01:06:55.000 How dare you ask? 1.00

01:06:56.000 That's a dumb question according to Biden. 1.00

01:06:58.000 Imagine if it was about a Republican taking this kind of money. 0.98

01:07:02.000 Imagine the things that were said about my father when they were pushing Russia, Russia, Russia, that hoax for five years.

01:07:09.000 None of it was indignation.

01:07:11.000 It was gospel.

01:07:13.000 It was fact. It certainly happened.

01:07:14.000 Now that we know it didn't, and it's reversed, and it's clear, because that's the Democrat tactic, accuse others of doing what you're actually doing, watch what he had to say.

01:07:23.000 Thank you so much.

01:07:26.000 Why did the U.S. pray to the FBI's format file refer to U.S.? Thank you very much.

01:07:33.000 Why did I ask the wrong question?

01:07:38.000 Just look at how brazen he is with the alleged crimes.

01:07:42.000 It turns out that Biden's 2017 tax return includes a mysterious entity he owns called the Celtic Capri Group.

01:07:52.000 This entity lists a $10 million sum.

01:07:57.000 What sort of business was Joe Biden doing that could garner him $10 million?

01:08:04.000 I think we know. I think we know, folks, because we've seen Joe Biden on the stage, and it's not like he's racking up points for being a great public speaker.

01:08:16.000 The Federalists just reported that the Bidens allegedly coerced a foreign national to pay them $10 million in bribes.

01:08:26.000 Huh, where have we seen that $10 million number before?

01:08:30.000 Huh. I'm wondering.

01:08:33.000 House Republicans are trying to investigate now, but they're stonewalling at every turn.

01:08:39.000 This is whenever I have the members of the House on the show, I ask them, what are you going to do to stop them from stonewalling you?

01:08:47.000 They're trying to run out the clock.

01:08:49.000 They're trying to make sure they get through November 2024.

01:08:53.000 After that, they can throw Biden under a bus.

01:08:54.000 They don't care. But they're going to do whatever they can to prevent it.

01:08:58.000 That's why the November 2024 election is so important. 0.82

01:09:03.000 We need to get this crook out of office.

01:09:07.000 We need to appoint a real special prosecutor to find out what the hell is going on with the Biden crime family. 0.98

01:09:15.000 Also, what the heck is going on with the FBI? They've been sitting on this information for how long?

01:09:22.000 I think, what, 2017?

01:09:25.000 They knew it was out there.

01:09:27.000 They impeached my father for asking a question about it.

01:09:32.000 But they knew it was actually happening, and strangely, they didn't say a word.

01:09:37.000 Huh. I wonder why.

01:09:39.000 I wonder why that is, folks.

01:09:41.000 I don't think any of us believe in coincidence anymore.

01:09:45.000 Would we have ever even known about it if the Republicans didn't win the House?

01:09:50.000 We need to clean house at the DOJ and the FBI, obviously. 0.74

01:09:57.000 If they'll sit on that, what won't they sit on, right?

01:10:00.000 These are the same people that accused concerned mothers at PTA meetings of being domestic terrorists, so let's stop giving them the benefit of the doubt.

01:10:10.000 They don't deserve even a little bit of it.

01:10:15.000 Democrats don't care about actual crime. 0.68

01:10:17.000 In fact, it's just the opposite.

01:10:20.000 They'd rather protect the criminals and jail those who are trying to stop them.

01:10:26.000 Because, get this, Daniel Penny, who intervened on a New York subway back in May to save those who were being violently threatened by a career criminal and mental illness patient, I guess, or The people that were there and were witnesses said that...

01:11:02.000 Penny was a hero, and yet he was indicted on one count each of criminally negligent homicide and second-degree manslaughter, and he faces up to 15 years in prison.

01:11:15.000 The guy who stopped the criminal is the one that's being charged.

01:11:21.000 It's absolute madness, guys.

01:11:23.000 And that's why it's so important to be involved.

01:11:28.000 We can't allow this to be the norm.

01:11:31.000 It's why they want to disarm Americans. 0.93

01:11:35.000 It's why they want to take out good Samaritans like Daniel Penny who will stand up for the weaker and for the afraid, who has not only the ability but the courage to do so.

01:11:47.000 They want you to be a victim.

01:11:50.000 They want you to be afraid.

01:11:52.000 They want you to not act.

01:11:55.000 Don't let that happen in our country, folks.

01:11:58.000 That's why the stakes could not be higher.

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01:14:47.000 I hope you guys have an awesome weekend.

01:14:49.000 For the dads out there, I hope you have an incredible Father's Day.

01:14:54.000 I'm going to have a busy weekend.

01:14:55.000 I got my little Chloe.

01:14:57.000 I got her birthday tomorrow.

01:14:59.000 I got Father's Day on Sunday.

01:15:01.000 So it's going to be a big family weekend.

01:15:03.000 Really looking forward to that.

01:15:04.000 I hope you guys have an awesome one.

01:15:06.000 If you're... A local subscriber.

01:15:09.000 I'm going to go over right now and do the Ask Me Anything.

01:15:12.000 So if you're a subscriber over there, go check it out.

01:15:16.000 I'll be there for a little bit before dinner.

01:15:19.000 And again, guys, happy Father's Day to all the dads out there.

01:15:23.000 Keep doing what you're doing, and you guys are the best.

01:15:25.000 So I really appreciate all of you.

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