Triggered - Donald Trump Jr - The Next Chapter of MAGA: Steve Bannon Takes us Inside the War Room, LIVE | TRIGGERED Ep.88

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00:05:23.000 guys welcome to another huge episode of Trigger.

00:05:48.000 Today we're live with Steve Bannon from Bannon's War Room, a true America First patriot.

00:05:54.000 I'm sure you know who Steve is.

00:05:57.000 He's the host of War Room and has had a long career, stops as the White House, as a chief strategist there

00:06:03.000 in my father's administration, the CEO of the Trump 2016 winning campaign,

00:06:10.000 and even a career in investment banking.

00:06:12.000 Steve has done a lot of things, a true warrior for America.

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00:09:39.000 With that, folks, joining me live right now on the program is the host of War Room, former White House chief strategist, the one and only Steve Bannon.

00:09:50.000 What's going on, Steve?

00:09:51.000 How you doing, man? Hey, Don Jr., thanks for having me on the show.

00:09:55.000 Really excited about this today.

00:09:56.000 A lot to talk about. There is a lot to talk about.

00:09:58.000 I know I always drop by you.

00:10:00.000 I'm glad to have you dropping by me for a change.

00:10:03.000 This is good. We're going to have to do it more often.

00:10:05.000 But it feels like this is a perfect one for you because we've seen...

00:10:09.000 An uprising in the last few weeks.

00:10:12.000 Many of them, frankly, but, you know, politically, you saw Mille win in Argentina, Geert Wilders in the Netherlands.

00:10:20.000 It reminds me of what was going on, you know, right prior to our win in 16 with Nigel Farage and Brexit.

00:10:28.000 What do you think's going on right now?

00:10:31.000 Do you think the populist right victories overseas are a sign of what's to come in 2024?

00:10:37.000 Does the fact that it's happening a little bit earlier give the lunatics in charge time to weaponize, come up with something?

00:10:45.000 You hear about a new virus from China and all these things going on right now.

00:10:49.000 What do you see happening right now?

00:10:51.000 One of the things I see, I see...

00:10:54.000 What your father's done...

00:10:57.000 See, I don't think Europe right now is...

00:11:00.000 Like in Brexit, Brexit was first.

00:11:03.000 You see the Trump movement taking root and really getting traction in 2016.

00:11:10.000 But here I think it's almost reversed.

00:11:11.000 I think President Trump is actually leading now not just a political but a cultural revolution.

00:11:16.000 I think the enthusiasm for young men, African American men, Hispanic men, when you see him going to this UFC, you see the response at South Carolina the other day, people under 30, minorities that would never think of voting for a Republican.

00:11:32.000 I think President Trump is empowering people.

00:11:35.000 I think his coming back And when he had the 2020 election stolen, went to Mar-a-Lago.

00:11:43.000 He could have, as you know, gotten back into the business, built the business, done more golf courses, had more courses on the open rota, or picked up by the USGA, enjoyed the family.

00:11:56.000 Obviously, Melania and the children, the grandchildren, all of it.

00:11:59.000 And he didn't. I mean, he was like this Roman general, the famous Roman general, Cincinnatus, who returned from the plow to go save Rome again.

00:12:09.000 And I think Trump has inspired people as you've seen the collapse, everything he's talked about, everything he fought for, for the sovereignty, not just of nation states, but the sovereignty of the individual citizens in those nation states.

00:12:22.000 I think it's inspired Orban in Hungary.

00:12:24.000 I think McGregor in Ireland standing up the other day.

00:12:28.000 By the way, that one's crazy.

00:12:29.000 And it shows you how far Europe's gone, right?

00:12:32.000 The Conor McGregor, I was going to ask you about that because, you know, this is a hometown hero.

00:12:36.000 I mean, all of Ireland, I've been to the matches with him.

00:12:38.000 And when he goes in, it's nuts.

00:12:41.000 They're investigating for hate...

00:12:44.000 Him for hate crimes.

00:12:45.000 Because he said, hey, listen, we're letting some, I guess it was an Algerian migrant stab a young girl in the streets of Dublin?

00:12:52.000 I mean, you know, and they're investigating him.

00:12:55.000 They're obviously going to do nothing. 0.97

00:12:56.000 They'll do jack shit about going after, you know, the migrants that do it. 1.00

00:13:00.000 Because, you know, it's a cultural difference, Steve. 0.99

00:13:02.000 You know, in their culture, they can stab people in the streets.

00:13:03.000 It's fine. We must allow them to do that to our children.

00:13:07.000 But... I'm wondering if that is just going to take Europe further, where people are just saying enough is enough.

00:13:13.000 Because it's not like they're even being reasonable in these positions.

00:13:17.000 I mean, the government is taking an actively hostile position against their citizens in favor of seemingly savages in many cases.

00:13:27.000 Well, you know, they tried to hide this first by saying the guy was an Irish citizen.

00:13:31.000 He was, but he's from North Africa and had been given citizenship over the years.

00:13:36.000 The Irish political class is actually worse than the American Uniparty class.

00:13:41.000 I mean, they've sold the country out to Brussels for years and years and Davos. 0.95

00:13:45.000 They're terrible. There's really never been a populist nationalist party.

00:13:49.000 And the response you see with McGregor when he goes to these matches, quite frankly, is

00:13:53.000 a response you're seeing to President Trump here by young men, by people that understand

00:13:57.000 that something's deeply wrong with the country.

00:14:00.000 They can feel it.

00:14:01.000 And you can feel it in Ireland.

00:14:02.000 You can feel it in the Netherlands, the Netherlands being the most liberal and progressive nation

00:14:06.000 in Europe.

00:14:07.000 And Gert, who's really been kind of on the sidelines for years, his message of, hey,

00:14:14.000 we've got to stop this essential invasion of the country.

00:14:16.000 We've got to stop the turning over of the country to these Sharia supremacists. 1.00

00:14:21.000 Remember, in Ireland, there's really no populist nationalist party.

00:14:24.000 I think McGregor and the reason they're coming after him for hate crime already, and they didn't even talk about investigating the guy who did the stabbing.

00:14:30.000 Everything is about they arrested 35 young men.

00:14:33.000 They said they're all hooligans.

00:14:34.000 They're all motivated by radical right ideology.

00:14:38.000 That's not true.

00:14:39.000 What they're motivated by is the nation of Ireland.

00:14:42.000 They want Ireland to be a nation again, and they want the citizens of Ireland to come first.

00:14:46.000 The message of your father is resonating more powerfully now than ever.

00:14:50.000 And I think the example of your father is starting to give people courage.

00:14:55.000 Remember, courage is the most important of all the virtues because it's on courage that all the other virtues rest.

00:15:00.000 And President Trump showed us by returning from Mar-a-Lago, Don Jr., there wouldn't be

00:15:05.000 any 700 years of charges in prison for crimes.

00:15:09.000 There wouldn't be any Moscow show trial in New York, which is the most outrageous thing

00:15:13.000 I've ever seen of a guy just trying to strip the entire business you built over a couple

00:15:17.000 of generations, take it to zero.

00:15:19.000 There wouldn't be any 14th Amendment trying to take him off the ballot in nine states.

00:15:23.000 None of this would have gone on if Trump had just gone back to Mar-a-Lago and lived a comfortable

00:15:28.000 life.

00:15:29.000 He says, I'm not going to do that.

00:15:30.000 Our country is in crisis.

00:15:32.000 We're losing this nation.

00:15:33.000 I think that's inspired people throughout the world.

00:15:36.000 And I think it's inspired the Bolsonaro's back again in Brazil.

00:15:39.000 I think immediately in Argentina, I think you're seeing people that are saying, hey, if Trump can get out there and put it all on the line and risk prison and risk bankruptcy and risk being even taken off the ballot, I'm prepared to do it too.

00:15:52.000 That's the moment I think we're in.

00:15:54.000 And that's why, hey, you're a golfer.

00:15:56.000 I think it's now time to press the bet.

00:15:58.000 I think we've got tremendous momentum and we just every day, we got to keep that momentum going.

00:16:03.000 So what are they going to do?

00:16:04.000 Obviously, the left, as led by Joe Biden, who's just... 0.98

00:16:09.000 Listen, he's dumb enough to sign whatever they'll put in front of him. 0.94

00:16:13.000 So I think he's actually the perfect puppet for the radical left because Obama would have gladly done a lot of the things. 0.98

00:16:19.000 He would have signed all of these things if it wasn't for the fact that he would be worried about his reputation, if it wasn't his social standing.

00:16:27.000 With... You know, Biden, it's like, oh, great.

00:16:30.000 We'll just let him sign everything because he has no idea what's going on.

00:16:33.000 That's clear as he tries to get off a stage every day.

00:16:36.000 You know, what are they going to do to try to ensure that they can get another four years of just sort of this, you know, this pen that signs every radical leftist?

00:16:45.000 And it's really not leftist anymore.

00:16:46.000 I mean, at this point, it's Marxist communists. 0.95

00:16:49.000 I mean, these guys are the true fascists.

00:16:51.000 You know, in any definition of the actual word, despite the fact that they weaponize that against, you know, conservatives for, you know, loving their country and whatnot for the last few years.

00:17:01.000 But what are the games that they're going to try to do?

00:17:03.000 They see this coming. They see the polling.

00:17:06.000 They see the populist uprising, not just here, not just with youth that would historically have been far more favorable to the Democrats.

00:17:15.000 You say it with African Americans, I'd love to believe it, but I do see it differently.

00:17:20.000 I see it when I speak at these things. 0.99

00:17:22.000 There's a security guard in the back being like, hey man, we've been lifelong Democrats, we're sick of this crap. 0.98

00:17:27.000 So, you know, it's always sort of the holy grail. 0.99

00:17:30.000 You think it's going to happen this time in our administration.

00:17:33.000 You know, the administration, they did a lot for that.

00:17:35.000 Didn't really change it a little bit.

00:17:36.000 He did better than other Republicans.

00:17:38.000 But I think now the persecution, the multiple, the, yeah, as you said, you know, 700,000, whatever it is, years in jail, you know, people are getting it and they realize that You know, they're in line as well.

00:17:50.000 They're going to come after him.

00:17:52.000 So how hard are they going to press to have this happen?

00:17:54.000 Or they say, hey, it's four years.

00:17:56.000 We're not going to play those games.

00:17:58.000 And we'll take it over then.

00:18:00.000 Do you see any scenario?

00:18:02.000 Any scenario? That they would allow Donald J. Trump to return to 1600 Pennsylvania.

00:18:08.000 That's why I ask myself every day.

00:18:09.000 Not even a little bit.

00:18:10.000 I'm trying to give them the benefit of the doubt.

00:18:13.000 I know better because I know what they tried to do to me and everyone else in my family.

00:18:17.000 But this is my point.

00:18:18.000 Trump has this movement, and he's the first to admit this, this movement that he's led and innovated is bigger than him.

00:18:26.000 He's got not just a political movement, this has now become a cultural movement.

00:18:31.000 You could see that in South Carolina the other day.

00:18:33.000 You could see this at the UFC fights.

00:18:35.000 You could see it anywhere you go and talk, on the streets, with the signs, with everything.

00:18:39.000 He is leading now the most fundamental and important political cultural movement in the nation for people of every economic class, every ethnicity, race, religion to say yes.

00:18:52.000 We want to return America to her former greatness, and we know we have a struggle to do it, but this is the guy that's the armor-piercing shell.

00:18:59.000 And let's break it down to three things, how they're going to stop that.

00:19:02.000 Because I think they've got three verticals.

00:19:04.000 They're all going to converge on a point to stop Trump.

00:19:06.000 Number one is to use lawfare.

00:19:08.000 I mean, think about it for a second.

00:19:10.000 Just step back and think about it.

00:19:11.000 For a guy who gave us four years, and I don't care if you hate the sound of his voice, just look at the empirical evidence.

00:19:17.000 In a chaotic world of anarchy, Right?

00:19:22.000 And destruction. He gave us four years of peace and prosperity.

00:19:25.000 And I mean real prosperity.

00:19:27.000 People don't give him credit that you talk about the balance sheet of the Federal Reserve being nine trillion dollars today.

00:19:32.000 When President Trump took over, it was three and a half.

00:19:34.000 It was only 880 billion when Obama took over.

00:19:36.000 He added all those trillions, as you remember, to put liquidity in the system.

00:19:40.000 President Trump, by 18 and 19, had 3.5% growth, the lowest unemployment, low interest rates, no inflation, and he took a trillion dollars, yelling as the Federal Reserve took a trillion dollars liquidity off the balance sheet.

00:19:54.000 He had a headwind that he was doing it because he wanted to deflate the asset bubble.

00:19:57.000 He gave us peace.

00:19:59.000 He gave us prosperity, right?

00:20:00.000 And that's not easy in a chaotic world.

00:20:03.000 Now, to that, number one, the 700 years in prison, I mean, we mock it, but they're serious about it.

00:20:10.000 Oh, yeah. No, no, no. It's not a joke.

00:20:12.000 If they could do it, they would do it.

00:20:14.000 I mean, it's laughable because you're like, people can't even figure out the crimes.

00:20:18.000 Like New York, they want to fine them a billion dollars, but there's no actual victim, right?

00:20:22.000 The banks are saying, like, what are you talking about?

00:20:24.000 Of course we do our own due diligence.

00:20:25.000 Of course we got paid back. There wasn't a payment missed.

00:20:28.000 We made hundreds of millions in interest.

00:20:30.000 But it doesn't matter because you have a radical Democrat partisan attorney general that will say it...

00:20:35.000 Doesn't matter. Of all of them, I think New York's the most egregious.

00:20:39.000 Because New York, I'm sitting there going, I did this for 30 years of my life at Goldman Sachs, my own firm.

00:20:45.000 I go, it looks like a pretty normal course of business, what the Trump Organization did.

00:20:49.000 At Goldman Sachs, did you ever not do diligence?

00:20:52.000 And by the way, even in post like Sarbanes-Oxley 2002, post 2008 crisis, if a major bank like

00:20:59.000 Deutsche Bank, you know, trillion dollar bank, if they didn't do diligence, the opening that

00:21:04.000 they would have for class action lawsuits from any investor would be ludicrous.

00:21:11.000 So this whole notion is absolutely insane.

00:21:14.000 But that's the point, Steve, I guess.

00:21:15.000 And it's probably the point you're making, which is it doesn't matter.

00:21:18.000 And the fact that the judge is so blatant about they just want to get to his assets

00:21:21.000 and stripping, but let's go back to the criminal charges.

00:21:24.000 We had people on today because I'm trying to go through a battleground state by battleground

00:21:27.000 state about how we're not secure for this election right now to actually close the deal

00:21:31.000 and make sure we get the deal.

00:21:34.000 You're going to win like you did in 2020 with 74 million votes that we have to close.

00:21:38.000 And quite frankly, it's a little chaotic.

00:21:40.000 In Fulton County, it's absurd of what's going on there.

00:21:42.000 They still get criminal charges.

00:21:44.000 The judge in D.C. is locked in on a 4 March start.

00:21:51.000 It would normally take years, years to get these things going.

00:21:55.000 They've taken this process and they want to either through opportunity costs,

00:22:00.000 so he can't focus, he can't campaign, to either take all the money out of the campaign, out of

00:22:04.000 the spending on lawyers, or, you know, maybe just grind him down in the process and

00:22:08.000 take his mind off running for president.

00:22:10.000 It's absolutely egregious.

00:22:11.000 That's their first line is hardcore lawfare.

00:22:14.000 And also at that to take the 14th Amendment.

00:22:16.000 And these 14th Amendment cases are jokes legally, but they're not jokes for political psyops.

00:22:22.000 Correct. Because they want to dominate local media with maybe Trump is an insurrection.

00:22:26.000 If you look at Denver media, when this trial, the trial was an absolute joke.

00:22:30.000 Cash Patel went in there and eviscerated it.

00:22:32.000 This is why I think Speaker Johnson has to come back.

00:22:35.000 And we need two things.

00:22:36.000 We need serious action on the impeachment of Biden, not for political retribution, We need to do this because we can't let foreign powers like the CCP and whoever these crooks are in Ukraine be funneling money back into politicians that are doing their bidding.

00:22:51.000 Number one, that has to be out there.

00:22:53.000 Number two, I think Speaker Johnson has to reconstitute the J6 Committee.

00:22:57.000 The footage alone and what President Trump, if you look at Kash Patel's testimony, President Trump went out of his way to ensure there would be a safe capital.

00:23:06.000 Bowser and Pelosi and others went out of the way to make sure there wasn't a safe capital.

00:23:11.000 That has to be adjudicated in a formal process.

00:23:14.000 We need J6. And this time, we have to let the Democrats have a ranking member, and we have to have minority counsel.

00:23:21.000 They have to see the evidence and cross-examine the witnesses.

00:23:24.000 You can't have Cassie Hutchinson up there talking... 1.00

00:23:27.000 Crazy talk and not be cross-examined.

00:23:29.000 Any witness that would come forward has to be crossed by the Democrats.

00:23:33.000 And what you're going to see is the American people all of a sudden are going to see about a Fed's erection, are going to see how this was all fixed on January 6th.

00:23:39.000 That is going to be the next part of the Great Awakening, and that's where the push.

00:23:42.000 The other thing is, they had an article in the Washington Post about the RNC. And the RNC is saying, oh yeah, we're broke, but we're in 70 lawsuits.

00:23:50.000 Mark Elias, the demon, And look, he's brilliant, he's cunning, he's smart like a serpent, but he's a demon.

00:23:56.000 He says, by the way, we're involved in 650 lawsuits, and the Republican Party's only named in 28.

00:24:03.000 These guys don't know what they're doing.

00:24:04.000 The Mark Elias is the world, and he gave the roadmap for how 2020 was going to be stolen.

00:24:09.000 He put out the Transition Integrity Project, which Bill McGinley, Raheem Kassan broke down.

00:24:14.000 We went around the country, most of it in Zoom because of the But he walked through the mail-in ballots.

00:24:20.000 They walked through actually how they were going to steal the election in broad daylight.

00:24:24.000 This is going to happen again.

00:24:26.000 They have taken a blood oath among themselves that no matter how Trump does it and how Trump gets to victory, he will never set foot back in the White House again.

00:24:36.000 Because they understand day one is the deconstruction of the administrative state.

00:24:41.000 It's the ripping apart of the rogue element of the deep state.

00:24:44.000 It's setting Wall Street and Silicon Valley back in the proper places.

00:24:48.000 It's the reinstitution of a program to return America to a former greatness and make the citizen America first and American citizens first.

00:24:57.000 And they will fight that to their death to stop President Trump coming back.

00:25:02.000 That's why when people talk about the most important election, this is more than an election.

00:25:06.000 This is actually the taking back of the country from the powers that have driven it to the ground.

00:25:11.000 And that's why 2024 is going to be like no three or four years in American history.

00:25:19.000 Yeah, like, talk a little bit about it, because you're right with Elias and the lawfare and the things that they're doing, but, you know, talk about, you know, you had to deal with this from, you know, the administration standpoint and dealing with the RNC, and you understand those are different things, but, you know, what do you make out about that report saying they're low in cash, they can't raise money? Because, I mean, it feels like, I see it for the campaign, there's a lot of enthusiasm for Trump.

00:25:41.000 You know, talk about that delta so people understand the differences, and what are the changes you'd make?

00:25:45.000 First off, Don Jr., think about it.

00:25:47.000 In the next 10 days, we have Fox News and Hannity putting on a national debate with Ron DeSantis and Newsom, like national figures and some presidential kind of mock presidential debate.

00:26:00.000 To put them out in front of the country is actually guys that can lead this country, which is outrageous.

00:26:04.000 A week after that, they're in Alabama again, the RNC being dead broke.

00:26:09.000 And this is not me saying this or Don Jr.

00:26:11.000 This is the Washington Post going through the numbers and showing they got $9 million cash on hand.

00:26:15.000 And no small donors, because nobody watches your show, watches our show, going to hit you with a 50.

00:26:20.000 They'll hit Trump with a 50 dollar bill, but they're not hitting the RNC. They're putting on another bogus debate, which nobody watches for the simple reason if they feel that if some existential event like J6 or something like that hits Trump or the bankruptcy trial, They've got somebody ready to go.

00:26:40.000 They can push you the harder. But more importantly, they want to consolidate that 15% of Republican voters are just traditional Romney types that are anti-Trump.

00:26:49.000 They want to consolidate that around a Nikki Haley type and drive it all the way through the primary process. 1.00

00:26:54.000 And then in July of 2024, force Nikki Haley onto the ticket as Trump's running mate and 0.99

00:27:01.000 let her try to run the administration from number two. 1.00

00:27:03.000 Now, that's not going to happen, but that's their plan.

00:27:06.000 And the RNC, this article in the Washington Post, she ought to resign. 0.99

00:27:10.000 My candidate to run the RNC is you.

00:27:12.000 It's been you since back.

00:27:13.000 No, it should have been you immediately upon winning in 16.

00:27:18.000 We made a huge mistake letting Ronna take this from Reince.

00:27:22.000 She's been a total disaster. 0.99

00:27:23.000 It's time now for a business guy that can step up there that people respond to, particularly if they don't get the small donor They don't get the small donor program up and running again.

00:27:33.000 The RNC has no chance. It has no cash.

00:27:35.000 It has $9 million of cash right now, and it's bleeding out cash on things like this bogus debate in Alabama, and they're going to do another one, and they're going to do another one, and they're going to do another one, all to stop Trump.

00:27:47.000 Yeah, no, I mean, I'm watching the debates, and it was interesting.

00:27:49.000 I was talking to a good friend of yours, Andy Sarabian, earlier today, and I'm like, you know, I feel like, you know, we're like 50 days out from Iowa caucuses, and it's like, honestly, it sounds like people are bored.

00:28:03.000 Like, it's sort of a foregone conclusion, and it's one thing to have the debates if there was something, right?

00:28:08.000 I get it when, you know...

00:28:09.000 When Ron DeSantis influencers, you know, made it, you know, clipped him to turn him into a legend and whatever.

00:28:14.000 And then I was like, just wait till you see him in long form.

00:28:16.000 I can assure you it won't be nearly as good as when they do like a five second clip.

00:28:20.000 Turns out I was right. The second he actually had to take the mic, you know, it was a nosedive.

00:28:26.000 But you're right. They're forcing these debates for, I mean, at this point it's, It's like for a distant second place or maybe, you know, for the future dog catcher position, it is lunacy.

00:28:38.000 They're doing it. I mean, the all-time low viewership, but worse, they're going to, like, MSDNC and NBC News.

00:28:46.000 They're going to liberal places with liberal moderators Trying to get them to have a floor plate to dump on conservative values for these guys.

00:28:56.000 And everyone's going for it hook, line, and sinker.

00:28:58.000 I mean, it doesn't make any sense.

00:29:00.000 It makes no sense.

00:29:02.000 It only makes sense in a, by the way, Swerve is one of the smartest guys in politics I know.

00:29:07.000 But your thing about being bored for us, I want to miss this.

00:29:09.000 Vander Plaats, in the old days, a Vander Plaats endorsement, it would be the political talk for a week.

00:29:15.000 Yeah. Right? No one gives a crap who he is.

00:29:17.000 No one gives a crap. No difference whatsoever. 0.98

00:29:20.000 I think anybody's paying attention to it. Now your father's beating on him, right?

00:29:22.000 If your father didn't beat on him, it would be crickets, total crickets.

00:29:26.000 Nobody cares. And the reason is they know DeSantis.

00:29:28.000 And Rove the other day, I think, gave the Murdoch warning to DeSantis that, dude, if you don't win in Iowa, you've got to get out.

00:29:35.000 They want to clear the field for Nikki Haley right now.

00:29:37.000 They feel Christie performed his function.

00:29:40.000 DeSantis didn't have it.

00:29:42.000 They're all over Nikki Haley.

00:29:44.000 And you saw the other day in the football stadium, right?

00:29:47.000 I mean, come on. I mean, President Trump, Bigfooter, it's just not going to happen.

00:29:51.000 All of these debates right now, everything they're doing in this fake primary is to try to either slow Trump down, I think actually help Biden or Newsom.

00:30:00.000 I mean, it can't be random that Hannity and Fox are having Newsom on in a national debate to try to promote him as a national candidate.

00:30:08.000 So everything is to do slow down President Trump, hurt President Trump, or...

00:30:13.000 In addition, make sure that a Nikki Haley type sits there and starts to negotiate in July. 0.80

00:30:18.000 Oh, we can bring the party together, but we have to have a say-so in the administration, which cannot happen.

00:30:23.000 She's absolutely poisonous. 1.00

00:30:27.000 She's more ambitious than Lucifer. 0.98

00:30:29.000 Imagine how much...

00:30:31.000 You know, hey, it's Rumble, so I'll say it. 0.96

00:30:33.000 Imagine how much motherfucking would go on if it was Nikki Haley and her team, what they'd be trying to do to Trump behind his back from literally, like, first, second, like, to position herself for 2028. 0.99

00:30:43.000 I mean, listen, hey, that would be brutal. 0.98

00:30:47.000 But no, you're 100% right.

00:30:48.000 Also, hold it, hold it. Hang on.

00:30:50.000 You're not going to get up so easy. You're going to hit the bid here on the RNC? Yeah.

00:30:54.000 No, listen, I'm with you.

00:30:55.000 It's not working.

00:30:57.000 You know, it's not working.

00:30:59.000 There does have to be a change.

00:31:02.000 You need to satisfy the people.

00:31:04.000 The problem is this. The RNC, when we got into this in 16, they did a great job.

00:31:09.000 They had an operation. They did this.

00:31:10.000 But, like, they too weren't really looking for it.

00:31:13.000 You and I were both there. Because you and I were the only people that spoke up.

00:31:17.000 It was 16.

00:31:18.000 It was a couple weeks before the election.

00:31:21.000 And you had the Axis Hollywood tapes.

00:31:23.000 Billy Bush weekend. Billy Bush weekend.

00:31:26.000 That was a long fucking weekend. 0.99

00:31:28.000 And I get it, but it was a long weekend only because we believe what the news told us still at that point in time. 0.99

00:31:34.000 And we sat there in my dad's living room.

00:31:36.000 By the way, I give a hat tip to Jared because Jared actually got – remember, we rented the Hilton Ballroom to try to tell candidate Trump at the time, don't do the ABC interview.

00:31:45.000 We can get 1,000 red hats into the Hilton Ballroom in Midtown.

00:31:50.000 But there was three of us that basically said you got to throw down – the RNC wanted to cut and run and have what? 0.99

00:31:55.000 Yeah, no, RNC literally said – You should just get out now and concede and lose, or you'll lose in two weeks and it'll be worse.

00:32:02.000 I mean, I remember that was Reince Priebus.

00:32:03.000 And I'm sitting there being like, wait, I don't know.

00:32:06.000 I'm not getting out of a fight.

00:32:07.000 We got two weeks. It may suck. 0.97

00:32:09.000 It could be brutal, but we ain't quitting now.

00:32:13.000 I spent way too many hours all over the place, all on the road, to sit there and give up 10 days out.

00:32:18.000 And so you and I were the ones being like, I can't even believe we're having this conversation.

00:32:25.000 And he didn't.

00:32:27.000 By the way, I love rights.

00:32:28.000 That was the biggest not knowing how to read the room.

00:32:33.000 Trump, he sits there and goes, you can either drop out now or you're going to lose by the biggest landslide in history, like three weeks out.

00:32:38.000 I mean, Trump's a fighter. You know, what are you going to do?

00:32:40.000 You're going to walk away with three weeks to go over some locker room.

00:32:44.000 Remember, we said locker room.

00:32:46.000 Yeah, no, that was where locker room talk came up.

00:32:48.000 It's 100% right.

00:32:50.000 But listen, I still remember the press was brutal.

00:32:53.000 Everyone's crushing you. It was all they had.

00:32:56.000 And I remember I went back on the road on Monday, and it was actually to Iowa.

00:33:00.000 And I gave a speech, and it was like, you know me, I'm usually pretty high energy.

00:33:03.000 This was less than high energy.

00:33:05.000 I was sort of lackluster.

00:33:07.000 I was, you know, you didn't want to be there. 1.00

00:33:09.000 You think you're getting your ass kicked. 0.98

00:33:11.000 And three ladies, like proper, you know, good God-fearing Iowa patriotic ladies, pulled me aside after the speech and said, Sugar, I know why you're upset and you're not that high energy today. 0.99

00:33:24.000 Honestly, my girlfriends and I had ten times that conversation earlier today. 0.99

00:33:30.000 And it was like, oh, no one gives a shit. 0.97

00:33:34.000 You only cared because the media turned it into a big deal. 0.99

00:33:37.000 Everyone has had these conversations, maybe with the exception of Bob Van Der Plas, but 0.99

00:33:41.000 again, no one gives a shit about Bob Van Der Plas. 0.98

00:33:43.000 Those people are irrelevant in the party. 0.94

00:33:45.000 So in 16, when the establishment was 90% of the party, that methodology maybe worked.

00:33:54.000 Today, 90% of the party is America first.

00:33:57.000 They could care less about Republican Party. 0.92

00:34:00.000 If the RNC collapsed as an institution, they wouldn't care.

00:34:03.000 Now, there are components of it.

00:34:05.000 There are things that you need that to be a functioning system.

00:34:09.000 So, listen, you need to get that going.

00:34:12.000 Because also, hey, and I can tell you from experience...

00:34:16.000 I don't want to win the presidency if I don't think we can also win the House and the Senate, because my life will be four more years of Russia, Russia, Russia, version 2.0 or 12.0 at this point. 0.68

00:34:26.000 It'll be impeachment after impeachment.

00:34:28.000 You know, I gotta win the House races, too.

00:34:31.000 I want to win school board races.

00:34:33.000 I want to sweep the board because I understand what all of those things mean.

00:34:37.000 And so it's not just about the presidency for me.

00:34:40.000 If it was, you know, we could focus on that.

00:34:42.000 But we need those institutions to make sure that you can get guys in these congressional seats over the line.

00:34:50.000 In governor's races, over the line.

00:34:52.000 Again, school board, all the way down the board.

00:34:55.000 So, you know, that's an important thing.

00:34:56.000 And that's why you need those things to be there.

00:34:58.000 Because a Trump campaign...

00:35:00.000 They can drag some people across a line, but you don't have the time, energy, resources to be able to focus on those individual races. 0.94

00:35:08.000 That's why you have those big institutions.

00:35:10.000 So we need to get that going.

00:35:12.000 Well, we got, you know, you have Project 2025.

00:35:15.000 I think the team's over there doing a great job at Heritage and CRA of getting, you know, we're going to hit the beach with 3000 people.

00:35:21.000 Trump's policies, America first, boom.

00:35:24.000 We need a project 2024 right now.

00:35:26.000 We need the ability.

00:35:27.000 I just don't think this part's there.

00:35:29.000 I hear rumblings that are trying to come together.

00:35:31.000 We need to make sure it can't be stolen.

00:35:34.000 And we've got to focus at least initially on the battleground states, Georgia, Arizona, Pennsylvania, Michigan, the same ones they stole up before.

00:35:41.000 And there are many of the same reasons out there.

00:35:43.000 We need a maniacal focus on that right now. 1.00

00:35:47.000 I feel quite confident that with the momentum and President Trump's message, even as they're coming after him, and I think you're right, the more they come after him, the more we draw other people into the movement and say, hey, this guy's like Tupac, right?

00:35:58.000 Why are they coming after this guy?

00:36:01.000 But I don't feel comfortable at all that we can actually close.

00:36:04.000 And I think we need to get to that.

00:36:06.000 I think we need a and I just don't see the RNC taking leadership there.

00:36:09.000 I think they're out of money. And if they were serious about this, they would have stopped this process.

00:36:14.000 There's no primary in the Democratic Party.

00:36:16.000 There's none. You know, Kennedy's left.

00:36:19.000 These other guys are left. They got this now congressman from New York, or Minnesota.

00:36:23.000 He's not going to go away. The Democratic National Committee shut down the process.

00:36:28.000 The RNC... And by the way, they'd stop Kennedy if they thought that...

00:36:31.000 ...focus on securing the vote in 2024. They'd figure out how to stop Kennedy even running as an independent unless they thought it hurt Trump.

00:36:37.000 And I saw that because this was definitely a PSYOP. And I want to get your take on the Kennedy thing because nine months ago I spoke to Andy again and some of that team that you know very well that I deal with daily.

00:36:49.000 And I was like, hey man, my social media feeds are being flooded with this guy and not from people I follow, from random stuff.

00:36:57.000 You could see, you know, big tech was trying to turn this guy into, like, another Trump.

00:37:02.000 Now, if you look at his record, anti-gun, pro-open borders, environmental insanity, you shut down farmers.

00:37:09.000 I mean, literally, like, the...

00:37:12.000 Like, a hardcore liberal.

00:37:14.000 He's a hardcore liberal that happened to be anti-vax.

00:37:16.000 That's about it. And they latched onto that.

00:37:19.000 What do you think's happening with that one?

00:37:21.000 Because you still see them pushing him as this guy trying to create, like, he's the conservative alternative as opposed to, like, maybe a rational Democrat.

00:37:30.000 And it's like, I've changed. It's like, you've changed every position in the last six to nine months.

00:37:35.000 Like, every position you've ever had is now different.

00:37:39.000 I don't buy it.

00:37:41.000 I think they didn't think about this, but I think he performed a very good function at the beginning of the primary, and I think that's why it was good he was in there.

00:37:50.000 Latipo, who's now under a lot of pressure, got a big political story about him, and I like Dr.

00:37:54.000 Latipo a lot, the Surgeon General of Florida.

00:37:57.000 Their strategy, I think, in DeSantis was to try to get to the right of Trump on vaccines and blame all the things on vaccines with President Trump right out of the box.

00:38:05.000 Kennedy, I think, took that total argument away from him.

00:38:08.000 I think that's one of the reasons DeSantis got, besides the fact that, as you know, the more you see, the less you like.

00:38:14.000 There's just not that much there.

00:38:15.000 And he's also not going to be president of the United States.

00:38:17.000 You can sense that.

00:38:18.000 He doesn't have the character.

00:38:21.000 He doesn't have the big picture.

00:38:22.000 You know, he went to London for that thing, and the city of London with the consultants and the investment bankers.

00:38:27.000 And I got feedback from guys around the room saying, this guy is not a Trump.

00:38:31.000 He's not a guy that's going to stand on the world stage with Putin or the mullahs. 0.99

00:38:35.000 Or B.B. or Xi or anything like that.

00:38:37.000 You see that he's a governor.

00:38:40.000 And I think Kennedy was, I think, very strong in the fact that it totally took away DeSantis' message because he really didn't have a message.

00:38:48.000 Kennedy is the anti-vax guy.

00:38:49.000 But Kennedy is a progressive. I don't.

00:38:51.000 When I look at the cross tabs and the numbers, I think this thing will fade like the morning dew with anybody that's Trump or Trump adjacent.

00:39:00.000 People are going to understand this, serious in this, and they're going to see Kennedy as a protest candidate, but he's not really a protest candidate for things that Trump believe in.

00:39:08.000 So I don't believe anything that he takes more away from President Trump than he takes away from Biden.

00:39:16.000 I think it'll be a bigger, and that's why I think he's going to have a very tough time for ballot access.

00:39:20.000 He may go into Michigan or something like this.

00:39:22.000 Biden's got trouble with Jill Stein, Cornel West, and Cornel West is not going to back off.

00:39:29.000 So look, Biden's in the high 30s.

00:39:31.000 I think he looks like a Carter type of incumbent.

00:39:34.000 This is the kind of guy I'll get, or even a Bush 41, the kind of guy who could get 39 to 41 percent.

00:39:41.000 The rest will be divvy up by the rest.

00:39:42.000 But I think President Trump could look at a 55% or higher number if it's not stolen.

00:39:48.000 And I don't just think the work, and I think, Don Jr., they're going to come at mail-in ballots, you know, machines in some places, mail-in ballots, just lack of process.

00:39:58.000 They're going to use the courts to fight us. 0.78

00:39:59.000 They got the AGs now in some of these states.

00:40:01.000 We're not going to be able to depend upon the courts to bail us out.

00:40:04.000 Like last time, you would expect courts to give you a venue to adjudicate this.

00:40:08.000 They've never given us a venue to adjudicate it.

00:40:11.000 So I think it's a dogfight.

00:40:12.000 And this is why I think this Project 2024, we have to get the best minds in here right now to say, okay, let's go through state by state, district by district to see in these key battleground states.

00:40:23.000 Look, we had Barris on this morning.

00:40:24.000 He's up 14 in Ohio.

00:40:26.000 He's up 10 in Iowa. He's up four in Pennsylvania.

00:40:29.000 He's up four in Michigan.

00:40:31.000 He's coming out today, I think, in Minnesota.

00:40:33.000 I think Biden's up one in Minnesota.

00:40:35.000 He was up by 10 in 2020.

00:40:38.000 So President Trump has closed the gap or has spreads right now, including an eight-point spread in Florida.

00:40:43.000 It's all about securing the vote.

00:40:46.000 It's all to make sure we're going to win the deal, but we've got to close the deal.

00:40:49.000 And I think that ought to be the focus right now on every different aspect of it.

00:40:53.000 Yeah, so with 49 days until the Iowa caucuses, you know, what do you predict happens there?

00:40:58.000 You have a morning consult poll shows that DeSantis and Kim Reynolds are now actually some of the least popular governors in America.

00:41:07.000 I think he was like 44 and she was like second to last at like 49, where they went from the...

00:41:13.000 I understand that DeSantis, I mean, he hasn't been in Florida since, you know...

00:41:17.000 Since he started his perpetual book tour, which was just the precursor to the campaign, but Kim Reynolds was one of the most popular governors in America. 0.95

00:41:25.000 That seems to be gone.

00:41:27.000 What's going on with there?

00:41:28.000 How are... I think, look, I think the pressure on DeSantis and Christie to clear out right after Iowa, in fact, I think it will be pressure on DeSantis to get out before, to clear the way in New Hampshire for Nikki Haley to try to get some traction there, and then to try to, you know, make a last stand down to South Carolina.

00:41:49.000 And you've got obviously the caucus in Nevada, which I don't think any of them would be competitive against President Trump.

00:41:56.000 I think they've got a tall order.

00:41:58.000 I don't even think it's a primary.

00:41:59.000 I think it's right now, it's Fox News and big donors trying to take a last stand of how they try to stop Trump and this populist movement.

00:42:08.000 And I think DeSantis was their first guy.

00:42:10.000 It's not working out. He's got all this ground game.

00:42:12.000 He's going to 99 counties.

00:42:13.000 He's got Cameron. He's got Vander Plaats.

00:42:15.000 It's not making a difference.

00:42:17.000 They're going to go out of their way to try to get.

00:42:18.000 And he's already been put on notice by Rove.

00:42:20.000 You either win and not come close second.

00:42:23.000 Either win, Iowa, or you've got to get out.

00:42:25.000 I think the pressure now is for those guys, if they can't take on President Trump in Iowa, The pressure will be Christie and DeSantis to get out of the race and to try to—all the never-Trump elements.

00:42:37.000 And there's big money in back of never-Trump.

00:42:38.000 And the reason is, is Trump takes care of working-class people.

00:42:42.000 Trump is a guy that represents the middle class in this country.

00:42:46.000 The big donors don't want that. 0.88

00:42:47.000 These are all open-border globalists, right?

00:42:50.000 The Ken Griffiths of the world, they cannot stand President Trump, and they hate MAGA even more.

00:42:54.000 So the pressure is going to be they want to consolidate the money in Fox News.

00:42:59.000 They struck out with DeSanctimonious.

00:43:02.000 They struck out worse with Youngkin.

00:43:04.000 This is their third shot, is Nikki Haley.

00:43:06.000 And I think you're going to see everything focused on New Hampshire.

00:43:09.000 To try to have Nikki Haley and have the media all spawning. 1.00

00:43:12.000 She's surging. She's so popular.

00:43:14.000 You'll see the same crap come on with that. 0.97

00:43:17.000 At the same time, put more pressure on President Trump on some of these legal cases. 0.98

00:43:21.000 I mean, Don Jr., think about it for a second.

00:43:23.000 How do you even keep it sorted?

00:43:24.000 I mean, I do this for a living as you do.

00:43:26.000 I sit down at night with the guys.

00:43:27.000 It's so complicated just to keep all the trials, what's going on, the motions and everything like that.

00:43:33.000 Think about President Trump. He's got that.

00:43:35.000 And he's everywhere. You know, I had a chance to talk to him the other day, and I said, what really struck me about how hardworking you are is when he went to the border, right, and was serving guys breakfast, right, after giving a speech the day before.

00:43:48.000 I mean, it's seven days a week, 24 hours a day.

00:43:50.000 They're going to try to sap that energy out of you.

00:43:52.000 And that's what this whole thing's about.

00:43:54.000 I think you're in a city of New Hampshire where they try to consolidate around Nikki Haley.

00:43:57.000 I think the sanctimonious is, and I think it first started with disloyalty to your father.

00:44:03.000 But I think people have weighed and measured this guy and just say, this is not, you know, Fox tried to sell us for a year and a half on this guy.

00:44:09.000 He's just not, and he's not, not just not going to be president of state now.

00:44:13.000 And it's not that he's hurt his career with MAGA by President Trump.

00:44:16.000 He's just not a guy that's going to be president of the United States.

00:44:18.000 You can kind of sense who's got it and who doesn't.

00:44:21.000 He just doesn't have it. Yeah, whether it was sort of, you know, the position, you know, he took the Trump-lite position on Ukraine, on Tucker Carlson, and, like, two days later, he gets a call from Ken Griffin or someone, and, no, I'm just kidding, we should fund wars forever, and this is a very America first, and, like, that's a big one.

00:44:37.000 You know, you could flip-flop on a small decision and change your mind over time, but like, you go out on a national platform, take something that understands the base, but then the guy that's writing the check tells you you gotta do the opposite.

00:44:48.000 By the way, honestly, the other one's the heel lifts, and it's not because I'm being petty about the heel lifts.

00:44:52.000 It's because the insecurity that it takes to do that.

00:44:56.000 I mean, you're walking like a—you know, he gets on Patrick Beddavid.

00:44:59.000 He pretends—he has no idea what's going on.

00:45:01.000 He's been trending for a week on Twitter about wearing heel lifts.

00:45:03.000 He has no idea. He's never heard this one before.

00:45:05.000 A, you're lying. You know, Trump would have made, like, you know, a dick joke or, you know, something like that. 0.98

00:45:11.000 It would have diffused the situation. 0.98

00:45:13.000 Instead, he got so awkward, and he continues to wear shoes that he's incapable of.

00:45:18.000 It's like if I put on high heels, I'd walk awkwardly, too.

00:45:21.000 But it's not the high heels.

00:45:23.000 It's the insecurity of not owning it.

00:45:27.000 Like, hey, you're not 5'11".

00:45:29.000 It's fine. If you're great at something, you can be that.

00:45:31.000 But the insecurity, that's the shit that gets us into wars throughout history. 0.98

00:45:36.000 This gets back to your previous comment about the Ukraine situation. 0.99

00:45:40.000 If you're going to run for president, you have to know who you are.

00:45:43.000 You can't figure that out.

00:45:45.000 Not only has his campaign been the White House.

00:45:48.000 I mean, Trump comes at it, and I realize he's not everybody's cup of tea.

00:45:52.000 But now people can compare.

00:45:53.000 It's not some theoretical discussion about DeSantis, about what he's going to do in Ukraine, or Nikki Haley, or what these people theoretically are going to do.

00:46:00.000 People have two empirical sets of evidence of brutal facts.

00:46:05.000 You have four years of peace and prosperity in a chaotic time, and you have the Biden regime.

00:46:11.000 Just look at your lived experience. Don't tell me elections are about the futures.

00:46:14.000 Elections are about now and the lived experience of people and how they project it's going to be

00:46:18.000 going forward. Just look at the two sets of facts of peace and prosperity versus this chaos

00:46:24.000 everywhere. Home, abroad, the capital markets, everywhere.

00:46:28.000 If you compare that, this is a 60-40 race with Trump if they can't steal it.

00:46:33.000 If you look at DeSantis and these guys, and that's the thing about the heels, the heels are 100% correct.

00:46:37.000 If you're 5'7 or 5'8, just own it, dude. 0.59

00:46:41.000 I mean, you're trying to be the leader of the free world.

00:46:43.000 You can't sit there and fake this.

00:46:45.000 Being a couple of inches taller, first off, you're not going to be taller than Trump.

00:46:48.000 He's, what, 6'2", 6'3", right?

00:46:51.000 Just be who you are.

00:46:53.000 And this is what about the sanctus, I think, is people seen over time.

00:46:57.000 It's not just the changing positions.

00:46:59.000 It's kind of these massive flip flops on things of fundamental importance, the Ukraine thing being very serious.

00:47:04.000 We're either going to be America first and not spread over hell's half acre fighting, you know, a war for the Russian speaking Eastern border of Ukraine.

00:47:15.000 Which is not in the vital national security entity in the United States and not doing anything on the southern border.

00:47:20.000 So I think that gets back to this insecurity and not knowing who you are.

00:47:23.000 I think people have seen this.

00:47:24.000 But more importantly, I think people look at, hey, let me look at 2017.

00:47:28.000 Look, 17, 18, and 19, culminating in 19, were golden years.

00:47:32.000 This is why the CCP, you know, cooked up the bioweapon.

00:47:35.000 They knew they had to. You look at the convergence of the Summer of Love, of the BLM, of the George Floyd situation.

00:47:41.000 Look at Esper and Milley.

00:47:43.000 Look at everything that was going on in the world, everything that they had to do to thwart Trump.

00:47:48.000 And it's still what? It was still, at the end of the day, 70,000 votes or 50,000 votes in three states.

00:47:54.000 They did everything they could possibly do.

00:47:56.000 So I think people look back at that time and said, hey, mean tweets and all.

00:48:00.000 I want this guy back.

00:48:01.000 This guy is a leader.

00:48:03.000 This guy has been very plain-spoken about what he intended to do in 2016, and he did it.

00:48:08.000 He's very plain-spoken now about what he wants to do in taking on the administrative state and the deep state, securing the country's border, taking care of the financial crisis.

00:48:17.000 And people, I think, intuitively trust him because he kind of lays out what he's going to do, and then he does it.

00:48:22.000 You don't have any hide-the-football.

00:48:24.000 And that's what I think you get with the Nikki Haley, the neoliberal neocons, it's always hide the football. 0.98

00:48:28.000 It's always donor speak.

00:48:30.000 It's always speak from like 30 years ago that doesn't resonate in people's lives today.

00:48:34.000 And I think Trump, this is why Don Jr., I think it's as much a cultural movement as a political movement now because he's bringing in ethnicity and races and different people in the working class to an age group.

00:48:46.000 Remember, nobody thought we could ever talk to under 30 years old anymore, particularly with TikTok.

00:48:51.000 Right now, I think Biden's up one point in the best poll on under-30s, and it's only going to get better as the economy gets worse.

00:48:58.000 Yeah, you're right. I mean, that's the whole thing, is sort of being true to the basics, right?

00:49:03.000 You've probably seen me do the surveys at the rallies, you know, 5,000 people, 10,000 people, 15,000 people.

00:49:09.000 Is Ukraine and funding another never-ending war, is it even a top-10 issue?

00:49:14.000 I had one person raise his hand one time, over like 30,000 people, and the guy happened to be from Ukraine, so I literally asked.

00:49:19.000 I was like, only guy that's ever— It's not even a top 10 for our base.

00:49:24.000 And yet, if you ask Ron DeSantis now, contrary to what he told Tucker, if you ask Nikki Haley, it's the only thing that matters.

00:49:30.000 We've got to be in another never-ending war.

00:49:31.000 Not a single person voting for you thinks it's a top 10 issue.

00:49:37.000 They want to secure our border.

00:49:38.000 They want to get rid of fentanyl.

00:49:40.000 They want to stop human trafficking.

00:49:41.000 They'd love to have inflation reduced to Trump levels.

00:49:45.000 None of this insanity. They'd love to see their mortgage payment not be double.

00:49:49.000 Some pretty basic stuff.

00:49:51.000 And yet, if you ask any of the people on that stage, practically, we've got to fund Ukraine.

00:49:57.000 To what end? We're going to fund another corrupt regime, create the next set of oligarchs in Ukraine instead of Russia, and we don't even know what the end result is.

00:50:05.000 We don't even have goals. It's lunacy, but they're going to push this stuff on you ad nauseum, and it's scary.

00:50:13.000 So that's the other part about those flip-flops.

00:50:15.000 It's like, well, you can tell me what you want to hear, but if you flip-flop in there, you don't think once you get to D.C. and you actually, you know, the entire machine is working on you.

00:50:25.000 You think you're going to hold true to your word?

00:50:26.000 You think that's easy? It ain't easy.

00:50:29.000 You know, I've seen that, and I think you've seen people and the lack of resolve that they actually have.

00:50:34.000 Talk is cheap. Republicans have been talking to Americans, telling them all the things they're going to do, moving the embassy in Jerusalem, yada, yada, yada, yada.

00:50:42.000 All the things they're going to do. Middle East peace, wonderful.

00:50:43.000 It sounded great. Great soundbite.

00:50:45.000 Only Trump actually did it.

00:50:47.000 Everyone's been saying it for my entire lifetime and probably longer.

00:50:50.000 Trump's the only one that actually delivered on those promises, and that's a big difference.

00:50:54.000 Talk is cheap. If you look at right now in the Middle East, if you look at Ukraine, you look in the South China Sea, where they came over to Biden to get a bailout and to get him to back off Taiwan, and they're challenging American destroyers even as we speak in the South China Sea.

00:51:10.000 If you look at those three, I think people, and this is what I think is starting to resonate very deeply, that in a chaotic world that has the KGB in Moscow, the Mullahs in Tehran, Xi and the criminal gang of the CCP in Beijing, These are bad hombres.

00:51:25.000 And you need a man of resolve.

00:51:28.000 And you saw that in the pressure cooker of the West Wing in the Oval Office and down there in the National Security.

00:51:35.000 They would try to mislead Trump all the time.

00:51:37.000 I mean, Esper's book says that.

00:51:39.000 Milley, I actually broke down the 60 Minutes interview that Milley did that is just outrageous.

00:51:44.000 I mean, they were not just disloyal.

00:51:46.000 They were disloyal to the Constitution and disloyal to the Constitution about who is the president is also the commander in chief.

00:51:53.000 Trump took all that pressure and he gave us four years of peace.

00:51:57.000 Remember, Bolton, these guys wanted to light rockets off all the time into Persia.

00:52:00.000 And it's not like they were winning a lot of wars before this.

00:52:03.000 I mean, these are not our finest.

00:52:08.000 You know, I wish we had like operators running the military, not bureaucrats, because then...

00:52:13.000 Stuff would actually get done, but we don't.

00:52:15.000 We have bureaucrats and we have a secretary of state who will get up there and he's, and I quote, shocked and dismayed that the Taliban did not install a more diverse and inclusive government after we lost the country in 13 days.

00:52:32.000 These are not serious people.

00:52:34.000 But, you know, you mentioned the South China Sea.

00:52:37.000 China's testing out new aircraft carriers.

00:52:40.000 They're rapidly building more ships, far outpacing us.

00:52:44.000 What do you think happens if they try to invade Taiwan?

00:52:46.000 Because, you know, if you're looking at what's going on in Ukraine, we're depleted.

00:52:51.000 We're getting rid of our stockpiles.

00:52:53.000 We've sent $150 billion over there because, you know, what's $150 between friends?

00:52:57.000 $220 billion misplaced by the Pentagon.

00:53:00.000 America's tapped out.

00:53:02.000 Whatever their timeline, and I'm sure there was a timeline one way or the other of them taking back Taiwan, I imagine it's been rapidly accelerated.

00:53:11.000 But are we just totally asleep at the wheel right now, or is there other stuff going on?

00:53:14.000 Does a ship not matter as much today with technology where things are going towards AI and drones and whatever it may be?

00:53:23.000 I think your father's resurgent, and particularly in the polls and when people...

00:53:27.000 Look, because the Taiwanese keep very close taps on American politics. 1.00

00:53:32.000 You know, 2024 is a year of massive elections throughout the world.

00:53:36.000 It starts in January with the election in Taiwan.

00:53:39.000 And up until 72 hours ago, they were putting together a coalition of the pro-CCP parties led by the Foxconn chairman, Terry Guo, who we worked and got out of the primary back four years ago.

00:53:51.000 This is all collapsed.

00:54:12.000 In San Francisco, folks should understand.

00:54:14.000 It's basically for Biden to kowtow and say, hey, Taiwan, it's the one China policy.

00:54:20.000 It's just a rogue province.

00:54:22.000 It's yours. And then they have the 400 leaders essentially kowtow to President Xi and really talk about getting rid of the terrorists and everything.

00:54:31.000 Look, President Trump has tremendous respect.

00:54:33.000 For the CCP as far as their power in China.

00:54:38.000 But he put them on notice about going out to the rest of the world and quite frankly tariffs to make sure that we were not underwriting, we were not financing their growth.

00:54:48.000 And those policies he put in is quite frankly why Xi's in this position today.

00:54:52.000 Remember, they're having a massive margin call.

00:54:54.000 Yeah. is the fact of the policies President Trump put in there for tariffs and restricting them on getting access to American capital markets, both the equity market and the debt market, and to cut them off in technology.

00:55:28.000 What President Trump did in really containing the CCP is legendary.

00:55:35.000 Who's the Washington Post correspondent and no Trump fan.

00:55:38.000 The book Chaos Under Heaven, if you read the whole thing through, I mean, President Trump from the beginning, and you remember this, Don Jr., every advisor in D.C. and the Republican Party is all for rapprochement, is all for it.

00:55:49.000 President Trump really said, no, we're going to make sure we're going to bring manufacturing jobs back.

00:55:54.000 My my my goal is not the city's trap.

00:55:57.000 We're not the declining power.

00:55:58.000 They're not the rising power.

00:56:00.000 Under Trump leadership, we're going to return to being the ascending power.

00:56:05.000 And that totally threw their game off.

00:56:07.000 And that's why I think they need to bail out today.

00:56:09.000 In this election in Taiwan, the opposition that was going to be the pro-CCP and try to have rapprochement immediately is now in chaos.

00:56:17.000 And the reason is, these people see President Trump returning.

00:56:20.000 And they're saying, hey, why give up our freedom now when we may be a year away From really having an entire different mindset and one that's just not going to be there for four years, one that could be there for 20 or 30 years.

00:56:34.000 So, you know, people know you as the naval officer.

00:56:37.000 They probably know you least from, you know, your banking side.

00:56:39.000 You mentioned you'd worked at Goldman Sachs for a long time prior to this.

00:56:43.000 So, you know, just a well-rounded guy in terms of overall life experience.

00:56:47.000 What do you see as the warning signs in the economy right now?

00:56:50.000 I mean, you know, there's the obvious ones with interest rates going through the roof.

00:56:54.000 And, you know, people have sort of gotten used to 2% interest rates.

00:56:56.000 And, you know, when your rate jumps up and Your five-year arm readjusts at 6.5%.

00:57:01.000 You know, I could see the housing markets being a total disaster in the not-too-distant future.

00:57:05.000 But, you know, you've been a step ahead in so many of these things.

00:57:09.000 What direction are the markets heading?

00:57:11.000 I mean, the stock market continues to stay, you know, pretty high.

00:57:15.000 It doesn't actually make sense to me. 0.99

00:57:16.000 Maybe there's still some of the stupid money, COVID money, hanging around there, boosting it up. 0.98

00:57:21.000 But what are the next steps and how bad does it get? 0.99

00:57:23.000 The stock market is focused on the Magnificent Seven, those big seven tech companies.

00:57:27.000 I think if you look at the bond market, it's the worst two years in the history of this republic for a bond market.

00:57:33.000 If you had a 30-year treasury, it's 50 cents on the dollar.

00:57:38.000 We're defaulting on our debt all the time to the bondholders.

00:57:41.000 This is the thing. The bond market is 10 times the stock market.

00:57:44.000 What I focus on is the fact that we hit $33 trillion on the 18th of September.

00:57:50.000 We're going to hit $34 trillion on the 28th of December.

00:57:53.000 In 100 days, we're adding a trillion dollars.

00:57:56.000 The refinancing of the 33 trillion is what's killing us.

00:57:59.000 It's no longer even the Fed has, I don't think, has all that much control.

00:58:03.000 The refinancing of a third of the debt all the time, and remember, Because they can't sell the 30s anymore, you're doing these auctions every week or every couple of weeks, and they're just doing notes.

00:58:14.000 They're trying to do it as short-term as possible because they'd have to pay so much for the 30 right now because people are getting killed if interest rates move.

00:58:22.000 I think the structural change From the negative interest rates and from the 1% that the elite used to bail themselves out.

00:58:30.000 And your father, to me, his greatest tweet ever, I think it was in 2012, he puts out a tweet and says, hey, let me tell you something.

00:58:36.000 The best opportunities you're going to have in your career right now are buying real estate and stocks or where they are because this infusion of liquidity is going to try to save the system.

00:58:46.000 I mean, it was the best call I've ever seen as far as timing goes.

00:58:49.000 Right now, I think it's the reverse.

00:58:51.000 I think we're into the law of large numbers.

00:58:53.000 Right now, it's going to overwhelm the system.

00:58:56.000 Think about it. We're having this fight on January 19th.

00:58:59.000 The budget we have today, the last one had a $2 trillion deficit.

00:59:03.000 This one's going to have a $2 trillion deficit annually.

00:59:06.000 We can't sell the bonds on what we've got.

00:59:09.000 We're going to have $2 trillion deficits, as far as the eye can see, unless somehow we get control of the spending.

00:59:14.000 And the reason is that the structural change in interest rates mean that the interest rates are going to be over a trillion dollars.

00:59:20.000 We call that back in July and August, and people are laughing at us.

00:59:24.000 I said, no, the interest payment this year is going to be $1 trillion.

00:59:27.000 Don Jr., I think it'd go to $1.25.

00:59:30.000 I think this thing is so far out of control, and nobody's serious.

00:59:34.000 Look, it's a restructuring.

00:59:36.000 We're having a margin call as a nation.

00:59:37.000 The whole world at $300 trillion is having a margin call.

00:59:40.000 The only guy that can negotiate this with all parties, I think, is Donald Trump.

00:59:44.000 And when I sit there and people go, well, it's all the entitlements.

00:59:47.000 You've got to get to Social Security, Medicare.

00:59:49.000 I go, hang on for a second. Are you telling me that we're financing countries all over the world, we're putting $200 billion in Ukraine that the guys are stealing 20% off the top, that we shipped all the high-value added jobs to China, and the American working man and woman are going to sit there, and before you take care of discretionary spending and get a hands around the defense budget and why we're all over Hell's Half Acre, until you show you can do that, they're supposed to give up the $1,000 check they get in Social Security, the little bit they get in Medicare.

01:00:18.000 Yeah, because that's not an entitlement.

01:00:19.000 They actually paid into that over their lifetimes, right?

01:00:22.000 You know, you mentioned good Trump tweets.

01:00:24.000 Also, with the back-breaking labor they did to build this country, they're not going to sit there.

01:00:27.000 If you prove, if a Trump, a guy like a Trump that can sit in a room and bang some heads in negotiations, you take care of the discretionary spending and work a program really to a balanced budget and show people that we're taking care of American citizens first. 0.98

01:00:40.000 We're not funding all this crap.

01:00:41.000 We're not bringing these people in at a half a trillion dollars a year. 0.98

01:00:44.000 And paying for everything, for education, their healthcare, all of it.

01:00:48.000 If you show the American working man and woman that, they're prepared to say, okay, let's sit down and let's talk about this entitlement situation over the years.

01:00:57.000 Until that time, it's just laughable.

01:00:59.000 And to have Nikki Haley and Ron DeSantis and Chris Christie sit there and talk about it, it's lunacy.

01:01:05.000 It's going to lose your elections and it's also detached from reality.

01:01:08.000 They don't trust politicians.

01:01:10.000 Donald Trump's not a politician.

01:01:12.000 Donald Trump is a leader.

01:01:14.000 He's led this country and in every day they came after him and made everything impossible in that White House for those four years.

01:01:21.000 He delivered four years of peace and prosperity.

01:01:24.000 And the only way we got off track at all is when they let a bioweapon off.

01:01:28.000 You go back and look at that track record of 17 and 18 and 19 and it's three of the greatest years in American history with an administrative state and a deep state and a media in Silicon Valley and the oligarchs of Wall Street trying to rip his face off.

01:01:42.000 That's what working class people who are low information voters, they're not into politics, They're low-propensity voters. 1.00

01:01:48.000 They're saying, hey, that Trump guy, I want to go back to those times.

01:01:51.000 He said stuff straight for it, and then he did it.

01:01:53.000 He stood up to these criminals throughout the world, and he had peace in the world.

01:01:57.000 He didn't get us into a bunch of wars.

01:01:59.000 He shut wars down.

01:02:00.000 That's the guy I want, and that's why I think this is an amazing historical moment for the American people.

01:02:07.000 Yeah, it reminds me of the other great Trump tweet.

01:02:09.000 You know, there were many, but many that I'd wake up at about five in the morning and be like, oh God, I gotta answer that one.

01:02:15.000 But the other great one was like, I hope we don't find life on another planet because God knows we just start sending them money.

01:02:21.000 And, you know, we can't take of people who've been paying into the system for a long time, but we can send everyone who hates our guts all the money in the world.

01:02:30.000 So yeah, you need someone who can put an end to that nonsense.

01:02:33.000 And I think, and that's why they fear him so much.

01:02:35.000 They understand now that he knows where the bodies are buried.

01:02:38.000 Now that he knows who the people that are loyal are.

01:02:40.000 Now that he knows, it was different coming in as an outsider.

01:02:43.000 That had its advantages, but you still believe that, no, if this guy's working in government, he wants to do something good for the people.

01:02:50.000 It's all nonsense.

01:02:52.000 It has nothing to do with that at all.

01:02:57.000 Your father has a great phrase that I love.

01:02:59.000 It's my favorite phrase. No games.

01:03:01.000 No games, right?

01:03:03.000 He doesn't want any games. This administration, this second term, his third victory in the second term, will be the no games, the no games term.

01:03:12.000 He knows where the bodies are buried.

01:03:14.000 He knows what has to be done.

01:03:15.000 He's not going to be happy-talked by people or spun.

01:03:18.000 And that's why they fear it.

01:03:19.000 That's why all of a sudden it's the rise of fascism.

01:03:22.000 They're the pro-democracy people, what they're doing with the FBI and DOJ. You know, every day it's going to be Donald Trump's fascist movement, authoritarian.

01:03:33.000 There's no holds barred.

01:03:34.000 I'm just telling people, be ready in 24 and in 25 when he takes over.

01:03:38.000 You're going to see things that are going to shock you that could actually happen in America.

01:03:42.000 And that's why I think a guy like President Trump, who's not a politician, who came from the rough-and-tumble business of commercial real estate in New York City and Midtown Manhattan, Is exactly a guy you need again.

01:03:54.000 He's the modern Cincinnatus.

01:03:56.000 He could have retired. None of this would have happened.

01:03:59.000 They're taking away his company, or they're trying to put him in prison for 700 years.

01:04:04.000 They're trying to take him off the balance so the American people can't get a shot at even voting for him.

01:04:08.000 They're doing those things because they fear so much of what he's done, and none of that would have happened.

01:04:13.000 This is why he's a hero. None of that would have happened if he had just gone back to Mar-a-Lago and said, let's buy some more golf courses, build some more hotels.

01:04:21.000 All of it would have gone away.

01:04:24.000 I got to tell you, it's the only third time in the history of the country that the fate of one man is tied to the fate of the republic.

01:04:30.000 It happened with General Washington, it happened with President Lincoln, and now it's happening with Donald J. Trump.

01:04:36.000 And they know it. They know that's why he's their target.

01:04:39.000 So what are some of the lessons from the first administration?

01:04:42.000 I mean, you were there that would guide the second term and what that will look like.

01:04:47.000 You know, what are the staffing decisions that you'd like to see be made, you know, that you just, you know, either couldn't have force on or just, you know, again, wouldn't have known just coming in from an outsider?

01:04:57.000 Because, I mean, I think we can all agree that, you know, there were mistakes that were made there.

01:05:00.000 You know, I'll say that. I've told my father that.

01:05:02.000 I think it's very... Very simple.

01:05:04.000 I think you need people.

01:05:06.000 Look, the program doesn't have to be complicated for what we need to do to get the country back on track.

01:05:10.000 But I think, number one, you need to pick people of courage and conviction.

01:05:16.000 And those convictions have to be in the MAGA. You have to have core beliefs in what President Trump stands for in the MAGA movement.

01:05:23.000 Okay? If you have that and you have the ability to take a punch, Because they're going to try to destroy anybody that comes in here.

01:05:31.000 That's why I think the 2025 project is so important.

01:05:34.000 Remember, we have 3,000 people that don't need Senate confirmation.

01:05:37.000 They can hit the beach running immediately.

01:05:40.000 And you remember when we won, the transition.

01:05:43.000 Of course it was a little chaotic, right?

01:05:44.000 Because first off, there's not that many MAGA people, even among conservatives at the time, or in the Republican Party.

01:05:50.000 There are many more today. So there's 3,000 that hit the beach running that you've basically vetted for two years, and you have a policy set that we're going to go into the apparatus, into the administrative state, and put it in place right away.

01:06:02.000 I think that, and then I think the senior people around you have to be united in their beliefs of President Trump's basic program.

01:06:10.000 Right? America first and make America great again, both economically, culturally, militarily, and as a society, right?

01:06:17.000 And I think one of the big things is going to be the deportation of 10 million illegal aliens and also getting hands around this enormous debt that we've got that only a guy that knows how to negotiate is going to be able to do.

01:06:28.000 So I think the staffing is just get Look, you've got the Cash Patels, you've got the Rick Grinnells.

01:06:33.000 The talent pool is actually quite deep.

01:06:35.000 I'm not actually that concerned with the staffing.

01:06:38.000 I mean, you know the top 20 or 30 people that ought to be around him.

01:06:42.000 I think everybody can name names, and we have some great people, and solid people, and not just that.

01:06:48.000 These are people that will not back down.

01:06:51.000 Yeah, that's what they've been run through the ringer.

01:06:53.000 You know, they also have a vendetta, you know, in the New York Times, like Trump's running on a vendetta to destroy the government.

01:06:59.000 I'm like, you had me. But like, wow, that's that's even better.

01:07:02.000 But you're right. These people have been wrong.

01:07:04.000 They've been treated like garbage. 0.99

01:07:06.000 They've been ridiculed, thrown out, you know. 0.98

01:07:08.000 When they come back in, they'll actually do real things.

01:07:11.000 I told Andy earlier today, the only job I'd want in the administration, I want to be the guy on the transition team that just vetoes all the establishment cucks.

01:07:20.000 I just want to be the guy to be like, nope, that guy's a POS, no way is he getting in through...

01:07:27.000 I want nothing to do with it after that because, you know, I won't get the Hunter Biden treatment in D.C. I just want to be the guy that stops any establishment asshole from getting into this administration so that we could actually be effective. 0.97

01:07:41.000 No, but with the 30 or 40 or 50 hardcore tough people, that's a corpus of real change. 0.98

01:07:47.000 And they know that. That's why this is going to get...

01:07:49.000 People haven't seen anything yet.

01:07:51.000 This is nothing. Well, talk about that, because I mean, what's your take on sort of the establishment media?

01:07:58.000 You saw Fox News go sort of full Ron DeSantis lap dance for two years.

01:08:04.000 Now they're flip-flopping to Nikki Haley pretty quickly, because they just...

01:08:07.000 For them, I assume it's about control, but You know, what relevance and influence do you think they'll have in 2024?

01:08:15.000 And compare that to previous cycles, because there's no question to me that their influence is waning.

01:08:19.000 People are getting it. They understand.

01:08:21.000 William Macy was in this great film, if you haven't seen it, called The Cooler.

01:08:26.000 We're in Vegas. The casinos actually have a guy, if you're too hot on the craps table, are playing poker.

01:08:33.000 They send you over as the cooler.

01:08:35.000 I think Murdoch News, since Ailes is gone, I think they're the cooler.

01:08:39.000 I mean, DeSantis, they had him for a year and a half.

01:08:41.000 They had specials.

01:08:43.000 They had town halls.

01:08:44.000 They had everything. And he completely flopped.

01:08:46.000 They pushed him as the grid. That's why he raised so much money.

01:08:48.000 He was on Fox nonstop. 1.00

01:08:50.000 I call it TV for stupid people. 1.00

01:08:52.000 There was a cool... Then Yunkin. 1.00

01:08:54.000 Everything was Yunkin. Yunkin was going to do... 0.95

01:08:55.000 Yunkin's going to do that. Gone. 0.65

01:08:57.000 And then not. It's about...

01:09:00.000 They can't control President Trump.

01:09:01.000 Listen. Remember, the first debate in the 16th cycle, I think it was the first week of August of 15th, Megyn Kelly came out right out of the box and tried to kneecap him right there.

01:09:13.000 They tried to end the campaign right there because Murdoch understood that Trump was someone he couldn't control.

01:09:19.000 He had Rubio. He had Bush.

01:09:21.000 You're seeing the same things now.

01:09:22.000 It shouldn't be lost on people that the RNC, the moderator for News Nation, which is Abrams and Cuomo's channel, right?

01:09:32.000 The moderator, I think, is Megyn Kelly, right?

01:09:35.000 Just a random choice.

01:09:36.000 So no, I think that their influence has definitely waned.

01:09:41.000 And the reason is it shows like yours, The War Room.

01:09:43.000 There's so many great venues and podcasts that people can get real information.

01:09:48.000 I know you've got the same problem I have.

01:09:50.000 I always feel like I'm behind the audience.

01:09:52.000 The audience is getting other things from other podcasts and those things in so much detail, and they want the receipts.

01:09:57.000 They don't want any, you know, high rhetoric.

01:09:59.000 They want the receipts. That, I think, has broken the Fox model.

01:10:02.000 I don't think Fox... I call Fox the cooler.

01:10:05.000 Anybody they put up against Trump, if Kemp's next after Nikki Haley, is not going to succeed because the Trump basis is so fast.

01:10:12.000 It's not that they don't keep Fox on during the day as background noise, but I think the rest of the media is so bought in on democracy and freedom, and this is our thing we've got to pitch.

01:10:24.000 They're the social credit score party.

01:10:28.000 They want state capitalism and authoritarian rule, kind of the Chinese model. 0.92

01:10:32.000 That's what works for them.

01:10:33.000 And that's why they detest Trump.

01:10:35.000 They detest Trump because he's a true populist.

01:10:38.000 They detest Trump because he's an anti-globalist.

01:10:40.000 He actually is a nationalist.

01:10:42.000 It's America first and American citizens first and return America to our greatness, which is against everything they stand for. 0.98

01:10:48.000 But I think that's waning.

01:10:49.000 I think the New York Times is waning.

01:10:51.000 I think the Wall Street Journal is waning.

01:10:53.000 I think it's particularly waning, the Wall Street Journal, not just their business coverage.

01:10:56.000 I think their editorial page, which is so virulently anti-Trump, It's also lost a lot of following of people that matter, which is the voters in this country.

01:11:05.000 So no, I think when your father said early on that the media is the enemy of the people, I think that people understood that.

01:11:12.000 They didn't need to go to the thesaurus to look up what he was talking about.

01:11:17.000 Yeah, and if they didn't, they do now.

01:11:20.000 You know, the other question I get a lot on the sort of the mainstream is, you know, what happened to Matt Drudge, right?

01:11:25.000 The Drudge Report used to be a place you'd go to check your, you know, at least conservative leaning or at least not insanely liberal.

01:11:32.000 And now you look at it and it's like they're literally just doing the bidding of the radical left.

01:11:38.000 I don't even check it anymore.

01:11:40.000 I deleted the app. And we came up with other alternative news sources because there is so few mainstream.

01:11:48.000 Taylor Butowich with MXM News created an app myself so that people could see the stuff that used to appear there that no longer does it.

01:11:56.000 But you're right. Guys like you and me are just trying to get this out there in other ways.

01:12:02.000 But what happened there?

01:12:04.000 Because that one was just like...

01:12:05.000 One day it was great, and the next day it just went full libtard, and it hasn't come back at all. 0.96

01:12:10.000 It's not even relevant anymore, it seems.

01:12:13.000 So you'd think that would be a mistake for what was once perhaps one of the most powerful places to check news in the world.

01:12:20.000 Aggregators like yours, aggregators like Citizens Free Press, Revolver, these are so popular.

01:12:25.000 Gateway Pundit, these things have massive audiences now.

01:12:28.000 I am of the theory that Matt had to have sold a stake.

01:12:33.000 Because it's flipped so radically.

01:12:34.000 I mean, he was one of the first people to actually get Trump, right, early on.

01:12:39.000 And it flipped so radically in the first couple of months of the first term.

01:12:44.000 I've just always been of the belief it can't be Matt Drudge running it.

01:12:47.000 I'm sure he's involved somehow, but I always assumed that he sold a stake and there's somebody else actually calling the shots because the flip was so...

01:12:55.000 Complete. And actually, President Trump was just trying to enact the policies he ran on that Drudge, you know, got right away.

01:13:02.000 So I don't believe any of these theories that he always wanted to be, you know, on the outside looking in because it's so mainstream media now.

01:13:10.000 I mean, essentially, it could be it could be put up or populated with stories from MSNBC. So I happen to think he sold a stake and somebody else is actually calling the shots, although he may still be the front man.

01:13:21.000 So I gotta ask, we're very clear we don't want to be funding a war in Eastern Europe.

01:13:25.000 I'm pretty sure I don't want to be funding them in the Middle East either. 0.99

01:13:28.000 But we see, you know, sort of the Hamas terror attacks and really the consequences of emboldening evil.

01:13:35.000 I mean, we're seeing, you know, our alma maters, you know, they're chanting, you know, not even like to enable the existence of a Palestinian people, but like just encouraging Hamas and the murder and rape of women and children in the streets.

01:13:50.000 What should the role and the extent of America's involvement in the region there be and the support of Israel?

01:13:57.000 Because again, I don't think we want to just be giving people blank checks.

01:14:00.000 I do think there's a little bit of a difference.

01:14:03.000 And I'd love to hear your take on everything that's going on there right now, what we should and should not be doing.

01:14:09.000 We shouldn't be looking into going out.

01:14:12.000 First off, the post-war international rules-based order, which President Trump said, look, didn't work for us.

01:14:19.000 That's a series. If you go around the Eurasian landmass from NATO to the Gulf Emirates and Israel in the Middle East, all the way to the lateral nations of the South, trying to see, and then up to Northwest with Korea and Japan.

01:14:34.000 Those four areas are a series of – when you talk about this rules-based order, it's a series of capital markets, commercial relationships, trade deals, multinational, transnational like the UN, other rules-making bodies.

01:14:50.000 But all of those are underwritten by an American security guarantee.

01:14:53.000 That's what President Trump, he said, look, we're upside down on all these trade deals.

01:14:57.000 We've shipped all the high-value-added manufacturing jobs overseas.

01:15:01.000 We provide, this is why we have a trillion-dollar defense budget.

01:15:05.000 We're everywhere. We're patrolling the South China Sea to having soldiers up in the Hindu Kush in Afghanistan.

01:15:11.000 We still have a large army in Europe.

01:15:14.000 And these guys, we're not looking for protectorates.

01:15:17.000 We're looking for allies. And allies have to step up.

01:15:19.000 That's why he demanded that NATO follow its own rules.

01:15:23.000 And pay the 2% of GDP that they pay when we're paying, what, 3.5%.

01:15:27.000 So President Trump had a very thought through element that we're not an empire.

01:15:32.000 Our founders were a revolutionary generation against an empire.

01:15:35.000 I mean, they got out of the British Empire when British Empire was just taking off because they said, we have to have our own deal here.

01:15:41.000 We have to be ruled by our own people.

01:15:44.000 And President Trump, that's the macro.

01:15:46.000 And so we don't get sucked in these wars, but President Trump also understood the issue with Sharia supremacists. 0.86

01:15:55.000 And it's not something people want to talk about.

01:15:57.000 When President Trump put in the travel ban, we weren't hit.

01:16:00.000 Remember all the terror attacks we had for years under Obama?

01:16:03.000 Remember Obama told us that the caliphate, the physical caliphate of ISIS was going to take a generation to get rid of because, quite frankly, they had a bigger physical caliphate Between Syria and Iraq and Iraq and Syria.

01:16:15.000 They did it in two weeks once they let the operators make decisions on the ground rather than the bureaucrats.

01:16:19.000 You know, it wasn't that hard, folks.

01:16:21.000 No, President Trump took down ISIS and President Trump kept to say there were no terror attacks.

01:16:26.000 Why? He started really putting in guidelines to make sure that people that want to do us harm couldn't come here.

01:16:32.000 The thing in Israel right now, and I think the Israeli leadership took their eye off the ball here.

01:16:38.000 This is clearly the Persians in one area and the Muslim Brotherhood in the other. 0.98

01:16:42.000 The Muslim Brotherhood, Hamas is the local franchisee, and of course all the Shiite militias are all from the Persians and all from that other brand of Sharia supremacist Islam. 0.99

01:16:53.000 And that's the problem. If you look at here, what's happening at your alma mater over at Harvard, you see these people, and they're making this chant about Israel being colonizers, Israel being oppressors.

01:17:04.000 Well, that's the same thing they're doing at Columbus Circle about Columbus.

01:17:08.000 It's the same argument the other day on Thanksgiving.

01:17:10.000 They say, well, no, it's an indigenous people day.

01:17:12.000 It's got to be truth-giving, not Thanksgiving.

01:17:15.000 They're basically making the point that the Anglo-Protestants that came here and helped build this great country are oppressors.

01:17:24.000 Our, you know, our colonizers, just like the Israelis are, this battle is against really Sharia supremacism.

01:17:30.000 You're seeing it in the streets of London.

01:17:32.000 You saw it the other day in Ireland with this.

01:17:35.000 You're seeing this is what Gert Wilders is fighting.

01:17:37.000 This is what your father's always stood up for.

01:17:39.000 Look, I'm not for getting into another Middle East war.

01:17:42.000 My daughter served in the 101st over in Iraq, and my kid brother was in the Qaddafi situation as a pilot back in the mid-80s.

01:17:50.000 We're not looking to get into another Middle East war, but I think this speaks larger to what's going to happen in this country.

01:17:57.000 This is really an attack on the Judeo-Christian West. 0.85

01:18:00.000 We have to take it very seriously.

01:18:02.000 Now, my biggest concern is, quite frankly, with the Israeli government.

01:18:07.000 I mean, I have a lot of questions on how that possibly could have happened on 7 October.

01:18:12.000 I mean, Don Jr., you're having, and I'm not trying to point at the victims, but let's be honest. 0.96

01:18:16.000 If, you know, the Muslim Brotherhood guys are monsters, there's no question about that. 1.00

01:18:20.000 You saw what they did. But there were monsters on the 6th of October and the 5th of October. 0.98

01:18:24.000 You can't have Burning Man down a half a mile from Gaza.

01:18:29.000 You can't have these kibbutzes where people can't arm themselves. 1.00

01:18:33.000 And quite frankly, the IDF was not on top of things.

01:18:35.000 It was seven or eight hours.

01:18:36.000 You had old IDF generals taking cars down and driving down and killing guys, but there

01:18:41.000 wasn't kind of organization.

01:18:42.000 That's why I think we really have to have it.

01:18:44.000 I mean, now you would need a President Trump more than ever.

01:18:48.000 It shouldn't be lost on you that when President Trump started taking out senior-level bad guys, Netanyahu and these guys a bunch of times bailed on him.

01:18:57.000 So we're not looking for Israel to be a protector, but if they're going to be an ally, they've really got to be an ally.

01:19:02.000 And I think this deal they're cutting right now with Hamas...

01:19:05.000 It's absolutely terrible. I understand the hostages are a heart-rendering situation, but if you let this continue on, you're going to be in the same situation with the Muslim Brotherhood. 0.99

01:19:14.000 And the Muslim Brotherhood is to eradicate not simply Israel, it's out to eradicate the United States of America. 0.97

01:19:21.000 Yeah, and you're 100% right. 0.77

01:19:23.000 I said it, you know, the day of, the day after.

01:19:26.000 You know, the IDF between Mossad and, you know, I find it hard to believe that a bunch of, you know, not insophisticated people, but, you know, not clearly at their level, you know, you have all these IDF soldiers be like, I used to stand guard there, and we have sensors that could detect a mouse going across the line, but, you know... A hundred guys in motorized paragliders, there was nothing that was picked up?

01:19:47.000 It just doesn't seem right, given my understanding of their capabilities.

01:19:52.000 And that's not a conspiracy theory.

01:19:53.000 That's just stating a fact. It is not commensurate with everything we know.

01:19:57.000 Now, maybe they got lucky, but there's definitely something strange.

01:20:02.000 Steve, I've got to ask you this one, because my questions and the comments down here are getting blown up on this one.

01:20:08.000 We've always got to give the people what they want.

01:20:10.000 But how do we make sure...

01:20:13.000 That we can overcome Democrat election rigging efforts.

01:20:18.000 Whether it's, you know, again, there was people always, well, no, there wasn't a systematic, I was like, no, no, no, one guy in one precinct with a couple thousand ballots here can change entire outcomes.

01:20:28.000 And just because they did it one way here doesn't mean they did it the same way in another state or even another precinct within that state.

01:20:34.000 How do we address that fully?

01:20:36.000 We talked about it a little bit with the RNC and the money.

01:20:39.000 We talked about it with the lawfare.

01:20:41.000 You sort of alluded to some of the other organizations that are out there.

01:20:45.000 Give people the details of who they can follow, be watching, ultimately support to make sure we can solidify that.

01:20:54.000 And again, we're going to have to overcome what I call the margin of fraud.

01:20:58.000 There's going to be fraud.

01:21:00.000 We've got to beat it. I know I'll be labeled a person who's for hate speech, and I'm a terrible person because I think if you need an ID to buy Sudafed at the grocery store, you should probably also need one to vote.

01:21:14.000 Minor details like this, but I understand that's all apparently racist and xenophobic.

01:21:20.000 So how do we address this?

01:21:22.000 What are the things that you see?

01:21:23.000 What are the organizations outside of this?

01:21:26.000 I'm so concerned about this.

01:21:29.000 I think there's only one way that you have a command and control structure to do it.

01:21:33.000 The RNC and the state parties, the state parties, they would want to do it and help, but there's so much lack of money and the RNC is not, they even give Yunkin any cash.

01:21:42.000 You know, they didn't even give him a million dollars at the state party level.

01:21:45.000 I think there's only one solution.

01:21:47.000 The only one solution, I think this is why Susie Wiles is so important and the other people around the president, which is a very thinly staffed thing. 0.95

01:21:54.000 I hate to put another burden on him.

01:21:56.000 This can only come, I think, right now, given the late hour from the campaign itself.

01:22:00.000 I think President Trump has to designate a couple of...

01:22:02.000 Look, he's got the legal team.

01:22:04.000 I think there has to be immediately...

01:22:06.000 A designated team of people that do nothing.

01:22:09.000 And they report to Susie and then to President Trump.

01:22:12.000 Because I imagine, knowing him like I do, that this is a big...

01:22:15.000 He can feel the momentum.

01:22:17.000 He can feel the love.

01:22:18.000 He can feel the issue set is with us.

01:22:22.000 All these new young people are coming to us, right?

01:22:25.000 The world's continuing in chaos, so we have all the momentum.

01:22:29.000 Right now, it's the issue, like before, of getting 74 million votes and having it stolen right in front of you where the guy wins by 50 or 60,000 votes.

01:22:37.000 The only solution I see, given the late hour of this, given the disarray, At the state party level and at the RNC, it has to be at the campaign.

01:22:46.000 Susie has to deputize one or two people like we did in 16, have to do it. 1.00

01:22:50.000 We have to have a coming together.

01:22:51.000 We have to have an immediate like Marshall program for this. 0.96

01:22:54.000 You have to have the best and the brightest.

01:22:55.000 There's a number of great groups out there.

01:22:57.000 Some of them are working maybe across purposes for each other, but there's tremendous lawyers out there.

01:23:02.000 There's tons of volunteers.

01:23:04.000 This is the number one issue on people's mind when I go to Pennsylvania, I go to Arizona, wherever I go and people talk about it.

01:23:09.000 There's tons of people that volunteer for this.

01:23:11.000 I think there's tons of small donor donations that would open to this if you showed a plan.

01:23:16.000 And right now, given that we're at the end of November of 2023, to me, the only solution, it's got to be hardwired into the 2024 campaign.

01:23:26.000 That's the only thing I would feel comfortable with.

01:23:29.000 Yeah, and there's guys that you trust along the way.

01:23:31.000 Let a turning point take Arizona, because they're based there in another state.

01:23:37.000 There's probably great groups that you can do it.

01:23:39.000 I think the biggest thing is not have, and we've seen this in politics, right?

01:23:42.000 Everyone... Everyone gets paid to do something.

01:23:45.000 They want to make money. So they want to control everything. 0.77

01:23:47.000 They want to control all the dollars.

01:23:48.000 It's like the DeSantis super PAC. It all goes through with Jeff Rowe entities.

01:23:52.000 They raise $100 million and $70 million goes into his pocket to get you a big whopping nothing now.

01:23:57.000 We don't have that money to use.

01:23:59.000 It's the control of the money, but I also want to make sure the president's in the loop.

01:24:03.000 I mean, he's got tremendous instincts in this thing.

01:24:05.000 And hey, everybody's got a lot of battle scars from 2020.

01:24:09.000 Look, Don Jr., you were there with us every day in 2016.

01:24:12.000 I thought we did a pretty good job.

01:24:13.000 63 million votes.

01:24:15.000 I thought we basically went out and got them all.

01:24:17.000 74 million votes is next level.

01:24:20.000 Next level. And I was there.

01:24:22.000 So October 2020, I did 104 rallies myself.

01:24:27.000 Some with Kim, but I did three, four a day for the month of October 2020.

01:24:33.000 I did as many back in 2016 as well.

01:24:36.000 A little less infrastructure, but we were there. 0.93

01:24:39.000 If you asked me on election day, even with COVID, even with all the bullshit, the enthusiasm, which one was better, I could tell you, no question, 2020. 0.96

01:24:48.000 Now, you don't have COVID. You have the disastrous Biden economy. 0.99

01:24:52.000 You have inflation. You have us being on the brink of multiple wars.

01:24:55.000 You can't really weaponize COVID against Trump.

01:24:58.000 And you have literally everything that affects every person's lives being a total disaster under Biden.

01:25:05.000 So you've... The cruddle has sort of flipped and switched, so the enthusiasm is there even more, again, even than 2020 from what I'm seeing on the ground already, and we're not even sort of in prime time yet.

01:25:16.000 The fact set's going to be wrong.

01:25:18.000 They're going to try to do something, but we just can't take any of it for granted.

01:25:23.000 Everyone has to be all hands on deck.

01:25:25.000 And I know how they brief him on policy.

01:25:27.000 I know how they brief him on the schedule and how the campaigns go in the polling.

01:25:30.000 I want that same brief.

01:25:32.000 I want a 30 minute brief every day to him because he's on top of it.

01:25:36.000 And whether it's Charlie's group in certain areas, look, there's a number of different groups that can be part of this.

01:25:41.000 But to me, the command and control structure, look, if we were talking two or three years ago, maybe we could do it differently.

01:25:47.000 It didn't happen for a lot of reasons.

01:25:49.000 I think principally because the RNC was not focused on this, this should be their responsibility in the state parties.

01:25:55.000 There's no time to point blame.

01:25:57.000 It didn't happen. The only way this can happen, I believe, to ensure that we close on a victory is hardwired in so that President Trump can see it every day, see a dashboard every day, knows he's in charge of things, says, you know, he knows how to Oversee big operations and ask the right questions.

01:26:14.000 That's where I think we've got to get hardwired in.

01:26:16.000 Whatever that coalition is underneath it, the management structure, I think you could work that out in 30 days.

01:26:21.000 We could start the new year off, boom, and be hitting on all cylinders.

01:26:26.000 This is not quantum mechanics.

01:26:28.000 It's pretty straightforward, but it's tons of detail work and you need hard, tough people on top of who are not going to back off, not going to happy talk the president, going to tell me exactly where we stand.

01:26:38.000 And that's the way we're going to secure a landslide to the degree that you're saying, I think we can pick up seats in the House.

01:26:45.000 I think we can take the Senate.

01:26:46.000 I think we can win a bunch of governorships.

01:26:49.000 I think we take back state legislatures.

01:26:50.000 I think we win a ton of school board.

01:26:52.000 We could be on the cusp of a sweeping, massive landslide if we don't let it slip out of our fingers.

01:26:58.000 The only way I think we ensure that right now is to hardwire as close to President Trump as possible.

01:27:03.000 So what's your best Trump story before I let you go? 0.99

01:27:07.000 You were there for some serious shit. 0.99

01:27:10.000 The best one, I'll tell this quickly. 0.99

01:27:12.000 Sometimes I'll give you the detail, but you remember Billy Bush weekend when I sent the girls, the people that Bill Clinton had raped, out to...

01:27:22.000 To keep it quiet, I talked to Jared and we both signed off on it.

01:27:26.000 I did it. And we just kept it very tight.

01:27:29.000 And then we went up. You know, Reince, nobody else knew about it because it was so controversial what we're doing.

01:27:34.000 And we're in St. Louis.

01:27:35.000 They're in that top.

01:27:36.000 You remember in the presidential suite up there where you guys, everybody's going through questions for him, what's going to happen in the debate.

01:27:43.000 And we put him down in the room.

01:27:46.000 The press was right there.

01:27:47.000 We had the trap set.

01:27:50.000 We still hadn't told the president.

01:27:51.000 So he was the candidate.

01:27:53.000 So Jerry and I went over there and explained to him. 0.94

01:27:55.000 I said, look, we've got all the women that Bill Clinton raped, plus the woman who Hillary Clinton represented. 1.00

01:28:01.000 The rapists are her. They're all downstairs. 1.00

01:28:03.000 You'll go down, say a few words to him, spend some time.

01:28:05.000 Then we'll open up and let the media come in.

01:28:07.000 And he's leaning against the wall with his eyes closed.

01:28:09.000 And he's just quiet for a minute.

01:28:11.000 And I go, because we can call it off.

01:28:14.000 I said, do you approve it? Do you like it?

01:28:17.000 And he's just eyes are closed. He goes, I love it.

01:28:20.000 That's awesome. It went right downstairs and the rest is history.

01:28:23.000 Well, I really appreciate it, Steve.

01:28:25.000 Great talking to you guys. Make sure to check out Steve Bannon.

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01:28:41.000 Great having you on there.

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Triggered - Donald Trump Jr - November 28, 2023

The Next Chapter of MAGA: Steve Bannon Takes us Inside the War Room, LIVE | TRIGGERED Ep.88

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