Triggered - Donald Trump Jr - Triggered Meets TCN, Tucker Interviews Me! | TRIGGERED Ep.144

00:00:00.000 I used to think, if you asked me, like, even a year ago, I'd be like, well, come on, they're gonna roll this guy over in a, you know, in a gurney, get him over the finish line.

00:00:08.000 And I was like, that's, no one would believe that.

00:00:10.000 The whole premise of, you know, their democracy, you know, yeah, really relies on people actually still buying it.

00:00:16.000 And I don't know that, I don't know that they care anymore.

00:00:19.000 Because, like, when they talk about democracy, it's a soundbite, right?

00:00:21.000 It's not democracy the way, it's not the republic they're preserving.

00:00:24.000 It's the opposite of what's happening. 0.99

00:00:28.000 Once they, it's almost like you get kidnapped and the kidnapper has a mask on, but once he shows you his face, he's got to kill you. 0.99

00:00:34.000 Correct.

00:00:35.000 And they've shown their face.

00:00:37.000 Yeah.

00:00:37.000 You know, again, I don't think there's anything they wouldn't do.

00:00:41.000 I mean, you put out something, I think it was on Twitter yesterday, which was, you know, sort of that extreme, like, well, if they can't get Trump this way, what's the next level?

00:00:47.000 And I think they've proven that they'll do that in the past.

00:00:51.000 I think we're now figuring that out.

00:00:53.000 We understand it.

00:00:54.000 I think the system's probably been broken for

00:00:57.000 You know, much longer than any of us would care to admit.

00:01:00.000 And for me, I saw it firsthand.

00:01:01.000 At least 61 years it's been broken since they killed the president in an election.

00:01:05.000 Exactly.

00:01:06.000 And, you know, for me, I still, even when we started this process, even I'd say it's safe to say I was probably the number two target of, you know, Russia, Russia, Russia. 0.70

00:01:14.000 And I was like, well, there must be something to it.

00:01:17.000 I know I didn't obviously collude with Russia, but maybe, you know, maybe I took a selfie with an agent once because I took 10,000 selfies a day.

00:01:23.000 Right.

00:01:24.000 So, so, you know, but even

00:01:26.000 Like, knowing that I was a target, I was like, I still believed.

00:01:29.000 I get it.

00:01:30.000 Because I wanted to, right?

00:01:31.000 I wanted to believe it.

00:01:31.000 No, I get it.

00:01:32.000 America's the greatest place in the world, and you can do it.

00:01:34.000 And I'm like, you know, it's the FBI.

00:01:37.000 You know, again, there's some door kickers that I'm still like, hey, they're home team.

00:01:39.000 I get it.

00:01:40.000 They're doing it.

00:01:40.000 Eventually, those guys are going to have to speak up, though, right?

00:01:44.000 We're long past that time.

00:01:44.000 I gave the door kickers a pass for far too long, which is like, hey, you know, they can't go against the leadership, but like,

00:01:50.000 When you're watching this kind of bastardization of justice, when you're watching this sort of lopsided level, when they spend more time kicking down the doors of an Amish farmer selling unpasteurized milk than actually going after people committing terror because they're trans or whatever it is that they are. 1.00

00:02:10.000 You really lose that ability to get that pass that I really wanted him to give but I you know I wanted to believe that everything I grew up believing was accurate and it's all Bullshit, it's it's just all bullshit. 0.98

00:02:21.000 So we have to fix that That's that's why we fight now to actually make it so but you saw this on January 6th, too I mean, I know that Joe Scarborough and the rest of the liars presented those people is like insurrectionists and dangerous it they were actually the most 0.98

00:02:36.000 Pure-hearted and the most naive about their... I mean, they were literally walking with pocket constitutions saying, no, you can't do this.

00:02:43.000 They believed in the system much more than the people who put them in prison who don't believe in it at all.

00:02:48.000 Without question.

00:02:48.000 And you saw that.

00:02:49.000 I mean, you know, the narrative was pushed so much.

00:02:52.000 The clips that they used were designed to create something that didn't actually happen.

00:02:56.000 I mean, it's so sick.

00:02:59.000 You know, I always say, you know, it was the first unarmed insurrection in the history of insurrections.

00:03:03.000 I mean, it's never happened before, but arguably,

00:03:06.000 I'd say probably the most heavily armed populace if they wanted to have been, right?

00:03:09.000 Of course.

00:03:10.000 But of course it wasn't an insurrection.

00:03:12.000 It didn't matter.

00:03:13.000 And they just wanted to run out the clock.

00:03:14.000 But you saw it in them.

00:03:14.000 Like, they could hardly believe this was happening.

00:03:17.000 And I think you're describing the same thing.

00:03:19.000 Like, you really believed it in our institutions and our norms and democracy.

00:03:25.000 I did, and it took, again, I mean, literally threats of, you know, you're going to jail for treason, a crime punishable by death.

00:03:32.000 That's like not a great swing thought when you're going through it, you know what I mean?

00:03:35.000 I'm like, wait a minute, like... If you're the father of five kids, that's not... Yeah, I'm like, and yet I still, at the beginning of it, I was like, and then it just...

00:03:43.000 Your eyes start to open and you see the games and you see the people that are on your side and you see the, you know, the Lindsey Grahams of the world, right?

00:03:49.000 They get on TV and they're on, you know, Fox or something like that and they're like, well, we must subpoena these people and we must get to the bottom of this.

00:03:56.000 I'm like, well, you're like the chairman of the Judiciary Committee.

00:03:59.000 Like, you have the authority to do that.

00:04:02.000 But you're talking about doing the thing that you have the authority to do, but you're unwilling to actually exercise that power.

00:04:09.000 So that was what disgusted me most about the Republicans.

00:04:13.000 You're telling your base, the people who are watching, you're fighting.

00:04:18.000 But you know damn well that you're not actually fighting.

00:04:20.000 And we see that so much.

00:04:21.000 That's the difference between— Such a betrayal.

00:04:23.000 It's the difference between the Democrats.

00:04:25.000 I mean, they've shown they'll put their opposition in jail.

00:04:28.000 They'll smother them. 1.00

00:04:29.000 They'll silence them.

00:04:31.000 There's nothing they won't do to preserve power.

00:04:33.000 We'll write a strongly worded memo and do nothing to follow up.

00:04:38.000 And I think as long as you have that sort of imbalance in the response.

00:04:43.000 Nothing changes.

00:04:44.000 Because, you know, the Democrats, they'll take their win, they'll run to the bank, they'll laugh their ass off along the way, and nothing changes until we actually start fighting back.

00:04:52.000 I think a lot of people yesterday when that verdict came down, I'm among them,

00:04:56.000 My first reaction was, wow, they'll actually hurt us.

00:05:00.000 They would execute us, me, I'll just speak for myself, and there would be an MSNBC panel of former federal prosecutors telling their audience that I deserved it, and they'd be laughing.

00:05:10.000 The Lincoln Project would send out a congratulatory tweet, and I was like, wow, there's sort of a lack of humanity, there's a coldness, there's an evil under all of this that I think I underestimate.

00:05:21.000 I think we all did.

00:05:22.000 And by the way, I think many still do.

00:05:24.000 Again, it's hard to believe that you could live through these last eight years or whatever, 10 years, and not think that.

00:05:31.000 I mean, look at that this is even within 10 points in terms of an election.

00:05:37.000 I can't name literally a single metric, a single one, geopolitical, economic, or otherwise, where we're better off

00:05:45.000 Now.

00:05:46.000 And yet, they'll outrace us, they'll do this, the media still pushes it as though, you know, Bidenomics is doing wonderfully for you.

00:05:52.000 Like, I get it.

00:05:53.000 I'm the son of a billionaire.

00:05:54.000 If I'm pissed off at the grocery store, like, you know, I'm not like one of these woke guys on one of these channels where it's like, my three-month-old baby was talking about nuclear proliferation on the Carilion Peninsula, Tucker, and she was crying.

00:06:06.000 She was scared.

00:06:07.000 It's like, I get it.

00:06:08.000 Like, I understand where I'm coming from.

00:06:09.000 I'm totally comfortable with that.

00:06:11.000 I've been blessed.

00:06:12.000 But like, if I'm sitting there with sticker shock,

00:06:14.000 Like, what's the country feeling?

00:06:16.000 You know, if I see what's going on in my interest rates and my mortgage, like, man, how much longer can we do this?

00:06:22.000 Then you talk about wars and trillions of dollars of spending, and then the Republicans are telling us that, you know, the Ukraine is the number one most important issue for Republicans across our country.

00:06:30.000 I've heard that from Mitch McConnell dozens of times.

00:06:33.000 It's just not, right?

00:06:36.000 I've spoken in front of more Republicans in the last year than Mitch McConnell has in his entire lifetime.

00:06:40.000 And I think I've surveyed, probably I do it live, like just at a speech.

00:06:43.000 You know, 1,000 people here, 500 people here, 5,000 people there.

00:06:45.000 It's been a top 10 issue at about 60,000, 65,000 people for three people.

00:06:53.000 One of them was a DC sort of beltway guy.

00:06:58.000 He felt very strongly about it.

00:06:59.000 Probably he was profiteering off of it.

00:07:01.000 One of them misunderstood the question, so he thought it was a double negative.

00:07:04.000 So it was not, in fact, a top 10 issue for him.

00:07:07.000 Because I do, is it top three or top ten?

00:07:09.000 And one of them, it was top ten but not top three.

00:07:11.000 And I said, sir, you know, and I'll ask him, I don't care, you know, I want to hear it out.

00:07:13.000 Like, why is, well, I'm from Kiev, Ukraine.

00:07:15.000 I was like, I'm going to give you a pass.

00:07:17.000 So I'm going to effectively say out of about 65,000 people surveyed in the last, you know, let's call it two years, 18 months, whatever it is since the war started, a little more, I guess, exactly

00:07:27.000 You know, basically zero people have been in favor of this, but the leader of the Senate will tell us it's the number one issue for Republicans across the country.

00:07:33.000 It's just not so.

00:07:34.000 How can that be?

00:07:35.000 last night, and I never go back.

00:07:35.000 I was in D.C.

00:07:36.000 I'm from there.

00:07:38.000 And I took three people to dinner, four people at the table.

00:07:40.000 Nobody drank for all three.

00:07:42.000 I am a teetotaler, so were the other three.

00:07:44.000 And it's a good restaurant, but not like a famous restaurant, a restaurant I've eaten at for many years.

00:07:49.000 The bill was $800.

00:07:51.000 For $800 for food.

00:07:52.000 Not drinking.

00:07:53.000 Not drinking, and no, nothing crazy.

00:07:55.000 Yeah.

00:07:55.000 Like salad, steak, dessert.

00:07:58.000 And I thought, you know, I'm pretty insulated from cost, but I thought, I can't, I can't, how do people live here?

00:07:58.000 $800.

00:08:05.000 My experience was the opposite of that.

00:08:06.000 I took two of my boys on a fishing trip, and we were coming back, traveling through an airport, and we went to a McDonald's.

00:08:10.000 And it was my 11-year-old boy, my 14-year-old boy, and me at the time.

00:08:14.000 And it was like $47 and change.

00:08:17.000 For an 11-year-old child, a 14-year-old child, and me, I'm like, again, it's not going to change my spending habits.

00:08:24.000 I'm not pretending.

00:08:24.000 I drive it.

00:08:25.000 My truck has 700 horsepower.

00:08:27.000 I'm not happy at the pump.

00:08:28.000 But if they're telling you the war against Russia is the most important thing to Americans, they're lying.

00:08:34.000 So both of us have sort of skipped ahead past an analysis of the case and sort of taking it as a given that what we saw yesterday was grotesque and really sort of the end of a fair justice system.

00:08:46.000 But for people who've just heard that and not...

00:08:49.000 Gotten some of the details that prove it to be true.

00:08:52.000 Can you just run through what the case was?

00:08:55.000 I mean, it's literally... You know too much, I know, but to the extent you can... How much time we got?

00:09:00.000 But, Luria, it's a books and records thing, right?

00:09:03.000 I mean, it's literally a filing.

00:09:05.000 It's like a misfiling.

00:09:06.000 And yet, it's something that was never before tried as a felony, like many of the other cases.

00:09:11.000 Like, you know, one of the cases in New York where they literally, they changed New York state law to be able to, for one year,

00:09:19.000 They changed the law for one year to be able to go back and change a statute of limitations so that you could go after my father.

00:09:24.000 And then after that year, after that is filed, and they go after my father.

00:09:27.000 That was the Gene Carroll case.

00:09:29.000 It reverts back to the normal statute of limitations, because otherwise they wouldn't have been able to do it.

00:09:32.000 This was very similar.

00:09:33.000 This was a case that was, you know, at best, misdemeanor type stuff.

00:09:37.000 Remember, Hillary Clinton started with a similar thing.

00:09:41.000 She got fined $8,000, I believe it was, for starting what was the Russia, Russia, Russia hoax with the Steele dossier leaks and all of this, right?

00:09:49.000 That was an $8,000 fine.

00:09:50.000 They want to put my father in jail for, you know,

00:09:53.000 Upwards of a hundred years, depending on how you look at it, and that's never been done before in these things, because basically someone in an accounting department put legal expenses for, you know, paying a lawyer.

00:10:06.000 It's unheard of, but you have experts when they say, well, it's a federal election crime.

00:10:11.000 They wouldn't let the person who wrote the rules

00:10:14.000 We're good to go.

00:10:36.000 It was always, you know, sustained.

00:10:38.000 They let them, you know, just, we couldn't ask anything.

00:10:41.000 When it was us asking the questions, the uncomfortable questions of their witnesses, all of a sudden, you know, we were overruled every time.

00:10:49.000 Just the list goes on and on and on.

00:10:50.000 So you've made the case, and others who followed it carefully have made the case, that this was a direct hit from the Biden administration.

00:10:57.000 100%.

00:10:57.000 And they point to a man called Matthew Colangelo.

00:10:59.000 Yeah.

00:11:00.000 Can you tell us who he is?

00:11:01.000 Matthew Colangelo was the number three guy in Joe Biden's Justice Department.

00:11:01.000 Yeah.

00:11:05.000 So from Washington, D.C.

00:11:07.000 The other big part of this case, you know, as it relates to that was that they're trying to say it's a federal election commission case.

00:11:13.000 Well, name another case that's ever been tried that's a federal crime tried in a state court.

00:11:18.000 So Matthew Colangelo is number three at DOJ.

00:11:20.000 So that's about as high as a prosecutor can ascend.

00:11:22.000 Correct.

00:11:23.000 And he was moved to New York.

00:11:24.000 Don't forget, Alvin Bragg, the district attorney that actually tried this case, turned it down years ago.

00:11:28.000 They could have done this seven, eight years ago, whenever it happened, but they didn't.

00:11:32.000 The Federal Election Commission, the FEC, that would have been one of the things that's around it.

00:11:36.000 They could have tried it.

00:11:36.000 The IRS could have done these things because it was a tax thing.

00:11:40.000 All of them chose to pass, including, again, Alvin Bragg, the guy who's trying it and just tried it right now, passed on this a couple years ago.

00:11:46.000 Biden's number three at his DOJ comes up, and all of a sudden, now,

00:11:50.000 They're filing the charges.

00:11:51.000 Conveniently right before an election. 0.99

00:11:53.000 Can I ask you a dumb question? 0.81

00:11:54.000 So the number three guy at DOJ who's ascended this ladder, okay? 0.98

00:11:59.000 What is he doing in New York?

00:12:03.000 I mean, that's a massive step down.

00:12:04.000 He's prosecuting his political enemies, Tucker.

00:12:09.000 There's literally no other explanation for it.

00:12:11.000 When you look at the bastardization of this, you have a judge who's a Biden donor.

00:12:16.000 His daughter is one of the number one Democrat fundraisers.

00:12:18.000 When you say he's a Biden donor, he's literally a Biden donor.

00:12:20.000 He's a Biden donor, like literally has written checks himself.

00:12:22.000 His daughter is one of the most prolific fundraisers for the Radical Democrats, Adam Schiff and like.

00:12:27.000 She's made millions off of that. 0.94

00:12:29.000 This judge allowed his daughter's clients, Democrat

00:12:32.000 Mega donors to sit in the courtroom.

00:12:33.000 It's like having front row seats, like you own the New York Rangers, right?

00:12:37.000 Think of how insane that is, right? 0.99

00:12:38.000 Wait, can I ask a dumb question?

00:12:41.000 First of all, why would the number three guy at DOJ wind up in a case, in a state case? 0.59

00:12:46.000 That seems like he must have been sent.

00:12:49.000 Two, if the judge was literally a Biden donor and donating to, among other things, like the Stop Trump effort, which I think was one of them.

00:12:49.000 Of course.

00:12:49.000 One.

00:12:59.000 How could he remain the judge?

00:13:00.000 How could he?

00:13:00.000 Because it's New York.

00:13:02.000 What do you appeal it to?

00:13:02.000 You appeal it to another panel of radicals, right?

00:13:05.000 I mean, it was like the New York AG case, right?

00:13:08.000 We got fined almost a half a billion dollars for paying back a bank on time with interest.

00:13:15.000 The bank, who's the alleged victim, is on the stand being like, no, we love Trump.

00:13:18.000 We want to do more business with Trump, not less.

00:13:19.000 Having their portfolio was a feather in our cap that we used to generate other business.

00:13:24.000 Doesn't matter.

00:13:25.000 You're a victim.

00:13:27.000 It's pure and simple political persecution.

00:13:31.000 They're going after, there's nothing that they won't do to stop Trump.

00:13:35.000 And they understand now, with years of experience in the White House, I think, you know, going in as a novice was great in many ways, but you also don't know who the snakes are, you don't know who the people who are going to actually help you and be sort of loyal to the cause, and that causes, you know, being the duly elected President of the United States, doing the things you said you would do, versus doing what the swamp wants,

00:13:54.000 Slow rolling what the president wants.

00:13:56.000 You know, all those unelected officials.

00:13:58.000 And so I think the notion of Trump coming back now actually scares them so much more because he has that knowledge.

00:14:04.000 He has that understanding.

00:14:06.000 And I think that will make him so much more effective in a second term. 0.99

00:14:08.000 Well, and also if you're going to kill the king, you better kill the king. 0.99

00:14:10.000 Yeah, you best not miss as the saying goes. 0.99

00:14:12.000 That's exactly right.

00:14:14.000 So, are you worried?

00:14:16.000 Well, a couple questions.

00:14:18.000 Will this stop the campaign?

00:14:20.000 Like, what effect is this going to have?

00:14:21.000 Listen, I spoke to my father, you know, right after the verdict, you know, today.

00:14:21.000 No.

00:14:24.000 I mean, you know, obviously, it's a somber moment.

00:14:28.000 I mean, you know, you know me well enough.

00:14:30.000 I, you know, I can pretty much, you know, fight through anything and we keep going and he will too.

00:14:34.000 But, you know, it is a somber moment, more so for our country.

00:14:37.000 But if anything,

00:14:39.000 I would say it's actually strengthened his resolve.

00:14:43.000 Listen, in 16, it was the elevator ride right before the infamous escalator ride.

00:14:48.000 Now we find out who our real friends are.

00:14:50.000 He knew what was going to happen.

00:14:51.000 He knew the celebrities would go.

00:14:53.000 But he knew that, and he did it anyway.

00:14:55.000 I think after 2020, he understood that if he just went home, he could go play golf and go back to building buildings and making millions and getting paid to give speeches and stuff like that.

00:15:04.000 There's just too much at stake, and so he's just unwilling to stop.

00:15:08.000 I gotta think a lot of people are looking back to four years ago and reaching the conclusion, well, if they'll rig a trial, they'll probably rig an election.

00:15:17.000 I think, you know, the reality is, you know, what I see, you know, on the ground, the amount of people from the demographics that probably have never voted Republican before, that are just, you know, grabbing me at airports or like even walking down the streets, you know, in New York the other day, it's...

00:15:17.000 I think without question.

00:15:34.000 I mean, I did a, for example, you know, I was one of the probably most out there people in terms of rallies and campaigns doing my own thing in 16 and 20.

00:15:34.000 It's amazing.

00:15:42.000 I think, just for example, October of 2020, I think I did 104 rallies in that month.

00:15:48.000 So like four a day for a month straight.

00:15:50.000 Like, I'm on the ground.

00:15:52.000 You know, the energy in 2020 was better than even 16, amazingly enough, but they had that ability to weaponize COVID and all of that stuff.

00:15:58.000 We saw the nonsense.

00:16:00.000 It's so much stronger right now, and we're still six months out.

00:16:04.000 That doesn't mean they won't do, you know, again, I don't even pretend to think that, hey, it's going to be fair, and they're not going to cheat, and they're not... I used to probably think that, hey, there's only so far they can go.

00:16:14.000 Like, how, you know, they're going to roll this guy over the line in a gurney and, you know, pretend he's... Because I used to think they actually had

00:16:22.000 Maybe a little bit of shame, but that's not actually at all true.

00:16:26.000 I don't think they care anymore.

00:16:27.000 They're laughing at, you know, when they use democracy, it's a soundbite.

00:16:30.000 But they're never punished.

00:16:31.000 They're never punished.

00:16:32.000 They weren't punished for the Iraq War or the Afghanistan withdrawal or the lies around COVID, the vaccine mandates.

00:16:38.000 They weren't punished for the 2020 election.

00:16:40.000 Oh, Russia, Russia, Russia.

00:16:41.000 I mean, not only are they not punished, Tucker.

00:16:43.000 They're given better jobs.

00:16:44.000 They either keep their job and then they get a CNN contributorship to talk about preserving democracy. 0.75

00:16:49.000 But maybe, I mean, if you treated your kids this way, they'd be sociopaths. 0.90

00:16:53.000 I think they are.

00:16:54.000 I'm sure they had boomer parents who indulged them, of course.

00:16:59.000 I mean, someone needs to be punished at some point, right?

00:17:01.000 So it stops?

00:17:03.000 I think without question.

00:17:03.000 I don't think, you know, we have not done that well, Republicans, right?

00:17:07.000 The Democrats don't fear us because they know we'd never play the same game because we actually believe what they think is like, you know, ha ha ha, a soundbite.

00:17:15.000 We actually believe those things.

00:17:17.000 And it's actually hard.

00:17:18.000 It's hard for me to say those things because I'd love not to have to play that game.

00:17:21.000 But I don't believe there's another answer.

00:17:23.000 Other than, like, we have to fight fire with fire.

00:17:26.000 As long as we're playing T-ball while they're playing fast-pitch hardball, they're going to win.

00:17:30.000 They're going to take their power.

00:17:31.000 They're going to run to the bank.

00:17:32.000 They're going to—and laugh every step of the way.

00:17:36.000 There's just not enough actual fighters there.

00:17:38.000 I mean, when you look at—even, honestly, look at the Republican bench.

00:17:42.000 It's not very deep.

00:17:44.000 No.

00:17:44.000 You know, in terms of the guys that you'd actually—hey, who's the guy I want in a foxhole?

00:17:46.000 Who's the guy that'll actually fight?

00:17:47.000 Who's the guy that's not going to succumb to the pressures of Washington, D.C.?

00:17:51.000 Who are they?

00:17:52.000 I mean, right now, I love a guy like J.D.

00:17:55.000 Vance.

00:17:57.000 There are a couple, but man, that list is... Who's next?

00:18:03.000 Mike Lee is kind of becoming that guy?

00:18:04.000 Yeah, Mike Lee's a fighter.

00:18:06.000 I like Mike, and it's interesting.

00:18:07.000 In 2016, Mike Lee and I almost got in a fistfight on the convention floor.

00:18:11.000 We were very different, but he's a guy that I text with

00:18:15.000 Probably daily.

00:18:16.000 Yeah.

00:18:17.000 And so it's interesting that, you know, once you actually have that relationship, you can actually, people come around, it's like, okay, you were actually right.

00:18:22.000 Well, people change on the basis of evidence and what they see.

00:18:24.000 Correct.

00:18:25.000 My views are totally different from what they were 10 years ago.

00:18:27.000 I think the problem with D.C.

00:18:29.000 is for conservatives, it's actually an easy existence.

00:18:32.000 You can be a Republican in D.C.

00:18:33.000 as long as you're Republican-like.

00:18:35.000 You know, if you're like, hey, say whatever you want when you're speaking to a group of 10 people in your little hometown.

00:18:41.000 You know, you come to DC, you can vote with the Republicans like 80% of the time.

00:18:46.000 When it actually matters, as long as you vote with us.

00:18:49.000 The Washington Post isn't going to come after you.

00:18:50.000 They're not going to be protesting in front of your home.

00:18:53.000 You'll get invited to the cool person Christmas party and, you know, sorry, holiday party.

00:18:53.000 It's an easy existence.

00:18:57.000 I don't want to, you know, they don't celebrate Christmas because... No, they don't.

00:19:02.000 No, well, because they don't believe in God, right?

00:19:04.000 The Democrats, their gods are evolving, right?

00:19:06.000 Because, you know, Greta Thunberg is the high priestess of climate change. 1.00

00:19:10.000 Fauci is the, you know, the lord of... Science!

00:19:13.000 Yeah, science and COVID.

00:19:15.000 These days it's Vladimir Zelensky, the high priest of Ukraine, which is apparently the number one issue for Republicans across the country, but I've not yet seen that anywhere.

00:19:25.000 But those are the people they choose to be their deities, and everything follows that path until they burn out, flame out, or get exposed for what they really are.

00:19:34.000 How can you run a presidential campaign when you're

00:19:38.000 Fighting multiple legal battles, criminal... Well, I mean, that's by design, right?

00:19:44.000 You look at all of these things, they understand... Listen, Joe Biden in a basement is good for Joe Biden's campaign.

00:19:44.000 Of course!

00:19:50.000 Because if you put him on a stage,

00:19:54.000 It's a negative.

00:19:54.000 He's incapable of getting through a teleprompter.

00:19:56.000 He would get lost at this table.

00:19:58.000 Yes.

00:20:00.000 I don't say that glibly.

00:20:02.000 No, it's sad.

00:20:03.000 I feel bad.

00:20:03.000 It's sad.

00:20:06.000 He can't get through basic things, and yet he's the leader of the free world, or whoever's pulling the marionette strings.

00:20:15.000 Trump locked in a courtroom for five weeks while he should be campaigning.

00:20:18.000 That's really good for them, because he can bring that message to people.

00:20:22.000 Understand what he's saying.

00:20:24.000 It resonates with them.

00:20:26.000 He's able to bring people over who would not have otherwise been able to or would have ever voted Republican.

00:20:31.000 He's one of the few guys that can do that.

00:20:33.000 Sort of expose the left for what it is.

00:20:35.000 Expose what we're talking about.

00:20:36.000 Break through the noise put out there by the mainstream media.

00:20:42.000 Break through the noise and sort of the manipulation of big tech.

00:20:47.000 Those are

00:20:48.000 And those are trillion-dollar industries that are functioning as the marketing department for today's Democrat Party.

00:20:54.000 And to be able to single-handedly sort of break some of those walls down, I mean, I felt like if I was in charge of that, if I was in charge of the Democrats, we'd be winning elections 99.9 to 0.01.

00:21:06.000 Exactly.

00:21:09.000 And yet, they're still close.

00:21:11.000 I think our messaging is there.

00:21:12.000 And I think it's really important, perhaps, honestly, the stuff that they've done to my father, our family.

00:21:17.000 Perhaps it's the most important thing to happen to America in recent history in that it's exposed just how bad it is.

00:21:24.000 You can't hide from it anymore.

00:21:26.000 It's not like, I get it, like, you come home from a long day of work, you're trying to feed your family, you're listening to five minutes of, you know, Brian Stelter on TV.

00:21:33.000 He's like, well, there's got to be something to it.

00:21:35.000 You know, during the early campaign stuff, if I watch TV to hear about myself, I'm like, man, I hate me too.

00:21:41.000 It's so bad, people feel it every day.

00:21:45.000 They're not going for it anymore, and I think it's why they're watching you here, or me on Rumble, or whatever it may be.

00:21:50.000 They're going to other places to hear an alternate viewpoint, because the machine just isn't delivering anymore, and it's so unreal.

00:21:57.000 But the machine knows that, and the machine exists to perpetuate itself.

00:22:01.000 That's the only point, is to maintain power.

00:22:05.000 These are incompetent people with no other prospects in life other than running the machine.

00:22:08.000 Not all of them are incompetent.

00:22:10.000 They're good at machine running.

00:22:12.000 When I see what tech is doing, though, you even see it now, because I see the algorithm.

00:22:18.000 It's like, it'll show me just enough of what I want to see, but never promote anything else.

00:22:22.000 And my meta platforms.

00:22:23.000 I haven't grown in three years, and yet everyone that comes up to me

00:22:25.000 Hey, you got the greatest Instagram I've ever seen.

00:22:27.000 So the people who are already following me will see my stuff so it appears.

00:22:31.000 It's almost like it's AI designed to let you think you're not being censored or that you're able to see the stuff that you want.

00:22:39.000 Oh, I'm aware.

00:22:40.000 But they're preventing that growth.

00:22:41.000 You're well aware of that.

00:22:42.000 Yes.

00:22:43.000 So the evolution of that is making it harder.

00:22:47.000 In 16, 17, 18, when I was starting to get censored by, let's call it Twitter 1.0,

00:22:51.000 They're like, well, how do you know you're being censored?

00:22:52.000 I was like, well, because yesterday, I got 7,500 retweets on a post.

00:22:55.000 Today, I got three.

00:22:56.000 And it's like, I do my own social.

00:22:58.000 When I hit that button, I know what it's going to do.

00:23:01.000 I know when it's, OK, that's a decent post.

00:23:03.000 That's hot.

00:23:03.000 That's going to go big.

00:23:04.000 And it's like, when it goes big for about 30 seconds, and then it's like, you see exactly what they're doing.

00:23:10.000 But they're coming up with better ways to make it appear as though they're not censoring while

00:23:17.000 While still, you know, continuing to perpetuate and push, you know, the ideals that they espouse and value.

00:23:23.000 No one interfered in the last election more than Mark Zuckerberg.

00:23:27.000 Or Google.

00:23:28.000 Or Sergey Brin.

00:23:29.000 That's exactly right.

00:23:30.000 But let me ask you, the convictions come down, 34 yesterday, and your father goes out there and just basically raises the middle finger and says, we're going to win anyway.

00:23:40.000 And within hours, Benning Thompson of Mississippi, who's a monster Democratic congressman, introduces legislation to pull his Secret Service. 0.94

00:23:50.000 So basically they're saying, okay, we'll kill you now.

00:23:52.000 Well, they did that a while ago also. 0.97

00:23:54.000 If he goes to prison, we want to pull his Secret Service.

00:23:56.000 So basically, if we put him in a cell, we're going to put him in a place where he could be murdered. 0.87

00:24:00.000 But that's a death threat. 0.90

00:24:01.000 Of course it is.

00:24:02.000 From a member of Congress.

00:24:04.000 Again, should it surprise us?

00:24:05.000 I mean, you look at half the congressmen, you know, get in their faces!

00:24:08.000 Make them feel it!

00:24:09.000 I mean, they can say these things and they are lauded as heroes.

00:24:12.000 If we said something even remotely like that, you know, we're literally inciting violence.

00:24:16.000 I mean, those words are violence, Tucker.

00:24:18.000 We've seen this.

00:24:19.000 The double standard that's out there, I mean, you know... But how hard is it for you to... Congresswoman after congresswoman.

00:24:25.000 You have a Hamas caucus, you know, in Congress calling for, you know, the death of people in the Middle East.

00:24:30.000 It's, you know, well, that's okay.

00:24:31.000 You can't do that.

00:24:32.000 If we did something similar, we'd be...

00:24:35.000 We'd be blocked.

00:24:36.000 We'd be off of every platform.

00:24:37.000 We'd be canceled.

00:24:39.000 And, you know, again, different games.

00:24:42.000 We're playing two very, very different games.

00:24:44.000 But that's so threatening.

00:24:46.000 I mean, Tony Fauci, he doesn't even work for the government.

00:24:49.000 He's got Secret Service protection.

00:24:51.000 He walks in the dog park in Washington, DC.

00:24:53.000 I happen to know for a fact, because it's my dog park, a former dog park.

00:24:56.000 And he's got three guys following him.

00:24:58.000 But they want to pull it from your deck.

00:25:00.000 Yeah.

00:25:00.000 Well, look at what they did with some of the justices, the Supreme Court justices, right?

00:25:04.000 You think that they'd be able to do what they've done to even, I mean, Alito even this week, you know, we're going to make him recuse himself because his wife hung a flag upside down.

00:25:11.000 It's like, well, you know, she can't express an opinion.

00:25:14.000 What they've tried to do to Clarence Thomas, what they did as it relates to Gorsuch and others.

00:25:20.000 It's insanity.

00:25:21.000 If they did that to Ruth Bader Ginsburg, if they were picketing in front of their house like they did to Amy Cooley Barrett, that would be a serious problem.

00:25:27.000 Those people would go to jail.

00:25:28.000 Of course.

00:25:28.000 But, you know, well, we'll let the, you know, if that's the conservative justice, we'll let them suffer a little bit.

00:25:32.000 We'll make sure it, but it's effective.

00:25:34.000 Because then you see some of them, and some of them are a little weaker than, you know, perhaps their principles.

00:25:39.000 And, you know, they're, man, it's a little bit, maybe I've got to go a little light on this one because it's not worth the headache.

00:25:44.000 100%.

00:25:44.000 I mean... When the Democratic Party's militia shows up outside your house, it's happened to me.

00:25:47.000 Yeah.

00:25:48.000 You know, people are intimidated by that.

00:25:49.000 Of course.

00:25:50.000 And we see it, you know, across the board.

00:25:53.000 It's designed, you know, the Hunter Biden laptop.

00:25:55.000 That's Russian disinformation.

00:25:56.000 Here's 52 intelligence officers signing off on it.

00:25:58.000 Oh, it must be.

00:25:59.000 Four years later.

00:25:59.000 Oh, no, it's actually his laptop.

00:26:00.000 You know, there's no accountability for that either.

00:26:03.000 But, you know, they're like, well, no, we're admitting it now.

00:26:05.000 It's like, no, but you got exactly what you wanted at the time.

00:26:08.000 We understand there's no accountability for it.

00:26:10.000 You know, that's election interference as much as anything else.

00:26:13.000 Also, you know, there was a stat, like, I think it was 17% of people said, had they known about the Hunter Biden laptop, it would have changed their vote in 2020.

00:26:20.000 I mean, 17%?

00:26:24.000 That's a lot of votes.

00:26:26.000 And yet, you know, that was the gospel.

00:26:28.000 And if you said anything about it, we've had the conversation about, you know, Wuhan lab leak theory.

00:26:32.000 No, no, no, of course it didn't come from the lab that studies the virus in question that we fund.

00:26:36.000 It came from the wet market, three feet outside of the lab.

00:26:39.000 And if you believe otherwise, we're going to pull your funding.

00:26:41.000 If you're a doctor, you'll lose tenure if you're at a university.

00:26:45.000 You won't, you know, Fauci's going to not sign off on your grants anymore.

00:26:49.000 And even if you were like, but,

00:26:51.000 You don't have to be a scientist.

00:26:52.000 They're like, Don, how would you know?

00:26:53.000 You're not a virologist.

00:26:54.000 It's like, you don't have to be a virologist to know that it happened there. 1.00

00:26:58.000 You just have to not be an imbecile. 0.96

00:27:00.000 Like, you know, you can have like mid, you know, double digit IQ and be like, of course it came from the place that studies the exact virus in question that was at ground zero of where it released and not from four feet outside of that. 0.99

00:27:13.000 Like, you

00:27:15.000 It's insane, and yet, think of the truly intelligent people in positions of power in medicine and otherwise, who went along with this blindly, because, you know, it was easier to do, and, you know, there was a lot of money, and, you know, it's not gonna pass up on those things.

00:27:28.000 Kind of hard to do that now, though. 0.93

00:27:29.000 I mean, everything that's happened- This isn't all that long ago, I mean- Right, but at this, I do think at this point, if you're still telling yourself those lies, you are lying to yourself, you are a liar.

00:27:38.000 But it doesn't matter, they correct it years later, but they got what they needed out of

00:27:43.000 The ruse.

00:27:44.000 Right.

00:27:44.000 Right?

00:27:44.000 They got what they needed, and again, because there's no accountability after the fact, it doesn't matter.

00:27:48.000 They'll do it again, and they'll make it the gospel for six months, or, you know, they always said, you know, the difference between the truth and a conspiracy theory is six months.

00:27:54.000 Yeah.

00:27:55.000 You know, now it's like six minutes, but they'll still get what they want out of that six minutes, use it to manipulate whatever they need to, and, you know, I don't see that stopping.

00:28:03.000 I see more people being

00:28:04.000 Awake to it, right?

00:28:05.000 That six months moved to six minutes because people are not just blindly buying the BS anymore.

00:28:11.000 So how does it play out from here over the next five months?

00:28:13.000 I mean, they tried to put him in prison.

00:28:15.000 They're still... Do you think he... We got to overwhelm the margin of fraud.

00:28:18.000 So it's... Wait, it's... Just to ask, it's July 11th, the sentencing.

00:28:22.000 July 11th.

00:28:22.000 Yeah, by the way, you think that's a coincidence?

00:28:24.000 That's four days before the Republican National Convention.

00:28:27.000 You think that's a coincidental timing or do you think that's designed to, you know, throw a wrench

00:28:33.000 We're good to go.

00:28:40.000 I imagine they will try, right?

00:28:42.000 Why wouldn't they?

00:28:43.000 Yeah, of course.

00:28:44.000 Does anyone think?

00:28:45.000 No, that's too far!

00:28:49.000 Nothing's too far.

00:28:50.000 And again, until it happens, we have to stop giving them the benefit of the doubt, thinking they're going to act above board.

00:28:56.000 This is an arm's length transaction.

00:28:58.000 No, it's not.

00:28:58.000 What are you talking about?

00:28:59.000 There's not a single aspect of this case that should stand.

00:29:03.000 Where do you appeal right now?

00:29:05.000 To the New York Appellate Division, which is just as radical?

00:29:08.000 And it's not just this case.

00:29:10.000 Look at all the shade, all the craziness around Fannie Willis, right, that case. 0.97

00:29:15.000 You look at Jack Smith and the FBI doctoring documents and setting up staging photos and then leaking it to the Washington Post.

00:29:21.000 They're classified documents that end up on the front page of the Washington Post.

00:29:23.000 That's fine.

00:29:25.000 Each one of these things wouldn't stand.

00:29:28.000 If we did this to, meaning conservatives, some sort of Republican, did this to Obama,

00:29:34.000 It would never end.

00:29:35.000 It would be a perpetual story, and rightfully so.

00:29:39.000 And yet, like, hey, as long as it's against a conservative, as long as it's against Trump, who's up against that machine, we're gonna allow these things to happen.

00:29:45.000 It's not like one of these things doesn't have any serious hair on it, right?

00:29:50.000 They're all shady as hell, and yet it doesn't matter.

00:29:52.000 And our mainstream media almost refuses to cover it.

00:29:56.000 They won't talk about these things.

00:29:58.000 My father, in many cases, is gagged.

00:30:00.000 I mean, think about that.

00:30:00.000 I mean, you know, First Amendment is kind of

00:30:03.000 First Amendment, right?

00:30:04.000 It's a big one for us.

00:30:06.000 The President, former President of the United States, is not allowed to talk about the facts of the case because, you know, if people actually heard that from him, they'd realize just how much, you know, BS is in all of these things.

00:30:17.000 That should trouble a lot of people.

00:30:19.000 You think it stops with Trump?

00:30:21.000 Like, I mean, think about that.

00:30:23.000 I mean, if they can do it to arguably one of the most, you know, out there, most powerful people in the world,

00:30:31.000 A bank account to be able to fight, a base to push it, venues to be a soapbox to speak from.

00:30:37.000 If they can do it to him, who can't they do it to?

00:30:40.000 But more importantly, if they will so flagrantly and so corruptly do it to him,

00:30:46.000 Who won't they do it to?

00:30:47.000 I mean, that's the question we have to be asking.

00:30:49.000 I mean, is anyone safe?

00:30:51.000 And it's like COVID.

00:30:53.000 People going blindly along, no, it's going to be different this time.

00:30:55.000 I'm like, really?

00:30:57.000 That's what you've got out of this last eight years?

00:30:59.000 But if they put the Republican candidate who was leading in the polls, all things equal, he becomes president again in November.

00:31:05.000 If they put him in jail right before the Republican convention on fake charges stemming from a rigged trial,

00:31:15.000 They're kind of pushing violence, aren't they?

00:31:19.000 Listen... How do they expect you to respond to that?

00:31:21.000 Nothing like that has ever happened in American history.

00:31:22.000 In the reality, you have to be careful even how you talk about that, right?

00:31:25.000 No, they are pushing violence.

00:31:26.000 Well, they are... They want violence. 0.96

00:31:27.000 Oh, they clearly are.

00:31:28.000 But, you know, again, like, nothing should surprise us, right?

00:31:31.000 The star witness of this case is someone who lied before every branch of Congress, was disbarred, you know, lied to banks, lied to wives, lied to the press, but we're expected to believe that he actually told the truth in this one instance, right?

00:31:43.000 That's who they hang their hat on because it doesn't matter.

00:31:46.000 When it's rigged the way it is, it doesn't matter.

00:31:48.000 We're moving toward something ugly, and I don't want that.

00:31:52.000 No one does.

00:31:54.000 But they're not going to let it play out.

00:31:57.000 I mean, do you think they'll ever take their foot off the gas?

00:32:00.000 No, it's not.

00:32:01.000 They've gotten away with it for years.

00:32:04.000 How should people respond, do you think?

00:32:06.000 I think honestly, the reality is everyone has to get involved.

00:32:09.000 Yeah.

00:32:10.000 And again, it's both sides.

00:32:11.000 I mean, you have to have, you know, people, you know, running for office.

00:32:15.000 And I'm not talking about President or Congress.

00:32:16.000 Like, you know, run for your school boards.

00:32:18.000 I mean, you know, that's perhaps the thing that's most important to me.

00:32:21.000 Frankly, there's a component of me that I don't want to win the presidency if we don't have Congress and the Senate because I'll probably be up on charges again and we'll get to go through impeachment, you know, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, you know, for the next four years.

00:32:35.000 And, you know, I don't think that's a great place to be.

00:32:37.000 But I think

00:32:38.000 You know, apathy has caused us a lot of problems, especially on the conservative side, where, hey, we run businesses, and we do these sorts of things, and, you know, we want to spend time with our families, and all noble things are important, but we have to take the initiative to get involved at every level of these things, because the left has taken over every major institution in our country that controls.

00:32:57.000 I mean, what they've done in education, manipulating our children, what they've done in entertainment, oftentimes the same thing.

00:33:05.000 It can't stand if we actually want to have a future.

00:33:09.000 You know, our kids, they graduate, there's high schools with 100 districts, you know, no one can read or do math, but, you know, they know the 4,376 genders.

00:33:15.000 And I imagine since this interview started, there's probably another 15 that I haven't included that, so I don't want to be labeled as, you know, whatever, a gender bigot by not including them, but that's the last I've been able to keep track of.

00:33:31.000 We just live in perilous times.

00:33:34.000 It does seem kind of heartening.

00:33:36.000 I think he raised more money in the hours after the verdict than anyone's ever raised.

00:33:40.000 How much did he raise?

00:33:41.000 Over, I think, $38 million in the first couple hours.

00:33:45.000 Small dollar donors, and then there was a bunch of big dollar donor stuff.

00:33:47.000 That's what's interesting.

00:33:48.000 I mean, there are tech VC guys, respected guys, Hillary donors, and even probably Biden donors that are like, OK, I've seen enough.

00:33:59.000 You know stroking you know six and seven figure checks now because you know, I think people who are watching closely enough truly understand

00:34:07.000 Just how far we have fallen, just how close we are perhaps to that, you know, fulcrum point where there's a point of no return, right?

00:34:16.000 Yes.

00:34:17.000 And I think if we ever let it get there, you know, there's no question in my mind that the Democrat elite, they'd maintain and seize that power and, you know, it'll happen like all sort of, you know, communist nations.

00:34:27.000 And that's where we're at.

00:34:30.000 And I think people see that.

00:34:31.000 And people who may not even agree with Trump on everything, and you don't have to agree with Trump on anything, I doubt, you know.

00:34:36.000 I obviously agree with him on everything, Tucker.

00:34:41.000 It's reached a level of principle, though.

00:34:43.000 Yeah, but it's like, again, you know, name a metric where we're better off under Joe Biden.

00:34:50.000 We're on the brink of World War III with the world's largest nuclear superpower by volume of nuclear-capable ballistic missiles.

00:34:56.000 I don't know.

00:34:57.000 We're going to keep funding that.

00:34:58.000 We're OK-ing a guy that was a former weirdo actor to send US-made missiles into Russia, provoking that, I guess.

00:35:08.000 And maybe that's what it is.

00:35:08.000 Maybe that's the next distraction, right?

00:35:10.000 COVID was the distraction for 2020 to allow them to manipulate things.

00:35:13.000 Maybe World War III is the distraction

00:35:16.000 You know, for this election cycle.

00:35:18.000 Some of us called this a year ago.

00:35:19.000 Yeah.

00:35:20.000 The senile man can't win, they're gonna bring us to war. 0.51

00:35:22.000 Yeah.

00:35:22.000 I mean, honestly, like, I don't say that lightly, but I also don't say it, like, I don't know, would I be at all surprised?

00:35:31.000 Not even, I think it's lunacy.

00:35:32.000 I think it's crazy, but do I think they would do it?

00:35:35.000 A hundred percent.

00:35:37.000 100%.

00:35:37.000 Do you think, since you, last question, but it's just, and I may be skipping ahead, but I don't think we're far from, well, we're at war with Russia.

00:35:44.000 Oh, of course.

00:35:45.000 If we're targeting- That whistleblower talking about the boots on the ground, I mean, like, I've never seen a whistleblower disappear that fast in my life.

00:35:51.000 Yeah, you wonder why.

00:35:52.000 I wonder why, huh?

00:35:53.000 It's almost like it's happening.

00:35:54.000 But they would need, you know, the military's in very tough shape and recruitment is way down.

00:35:59.000 No one wants to join the training military, understandably.

00:36:02.000 Now they're talking about who would, right?

00:36:06.000 The guys you'd want fighting a war for you.

00:36:08.000 Good, patriotic, red-blooded Americans.

00:36:11.000 They don't wanna go report to a trans admiral, not because if the trans admiral was patent, maybe they'd do it. 0.77

00:36:17.000 The trans admiral ain't patent.

00:36:19.000 The trans admiral is only an admiral because they're trans, not because they're competent or capable and it doesn't matter. 1.00

00:36:23.000 It's grotesque.

00:36:24.000 A big part of signing up for that and possibly dying for your country is actually believing in the things that you're fighting for.

00:36:30.000 That's the basics of patriotism.

00:36:31.000 And if you don't believe in those things and you understand that you're going to be vilified, you're gonna be forced to not learn how to shoot, but do diversity training,

00:36:39.000 Why on earth would you do that?

00:36:46.000 Put them in the military.

00:36:48.000 Or flood our borders and put them in the voting roster. 0.82

00:36:52.000 And that's another way to make a pirate because you've lost other demographics that were reliable voters.

00:36:56.000 But they're also talking about the draft.

00:36:57.000 You're hearing that all of a sudden.

00:36:58.000 Well, maybe we need a draft.

00:37:00.000 Yeah.

00:37:00.000 So we can be in never-ending wars.

00:37:02.000 Again, no one's articulated to me, and I kind of do this now, feels like for a living.

00:37:10.000 No one's articulated, what does victory in Ukraine look like?

00:37:13.000 I don't know what it means.

00:37:15.000 Is it just like perpetual death of Ukrainians and Russians until they're all wiped out and, you know, Black Rock comes in there and takes over all the farmland? 1.00

00:37:23.000 I mean, is that what it is?

00:37:25.000 Feels like that's what it is to me.

00:37:27.000 They're already selling off land in Ukraine to foreign investors, and they will flood Ukraine with third-world immigrants, and Ukraine will not exist in 50 years. 1.00

00:37:37.000 There'll be no Ukrainian nation. 0.96

00:37:39.000 And we betrayed them like no other country ever. 0.67

00:37:41.000 But I just ask you, would people actually serve in a draft?

00:37:45.000 I'd have a hard time.

00:37:47.000 Honestly, the metric I use for this is not just the recruitment numbers, but the amount of guys that I know, you know, I shoot a lot and whatever, the circles are tight, that are like fourth generation army.

00:37:59.000 They're like, I would beat the crap out of my son if he decided to, like, these are guys that, you know, their entire ethos is around that military background.

00:38:06.000 They are great friends and they're like, they wouldn't even think about it. 0.92

00:38:10.000 They'd disown their children if they joined this military today.

00:38:13.000 And that's sad.

00:38:14.000 It's the worst thing.

00:38:15.000 That's scary.

00:38:18.000 Well, Godspeed.

00:38:19.000 Thank you for that.

00:38:19.000 Thank you.

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