Triggered - Donald Trump Jr - April 26, 2024


WE ARE FIELD ETHOS, Interview with Jason Vincent and Mike Schoby | TRIGGERED Ep.131


Episode Stats

Length

1 hour and 28 minutes

Words per Minute

173.50404

Word Count

15,358

Sentence Count

1,105

Misogynist Sentences

14

Hate Speech Sentences

26


Summary

In this episode, we take a detour from the usual heavy, hard hitting politics and focus instead on one of my pet projects, The Field Ethos Journal, a multimedia brand I started with a couple of friends. We talk about building our own, taking on the people who have gone woke, and just going for it, just like we did with our first project, Field Ethics Journal. And we're joined by my co-founder Jason Vincent and our Chief Operating Officer Mike Scobie to have some fun and have a lot of laughs along the way. I imagine I'm going to be sitting here embarrassed in the not-too-distant future, but we're going to have fun, right? So much so, that we can still appreciate that in 2024, you can still actually appreciate it in 2024. And remember, remember to take care of your personal health and wellness with The Wellness Company. You've heard me talk about their emergency medical kits and being prepared in a time of crisis, but now they've got a brand new product to ensure you also get a good night's rest. And while many think we're good to go, let's keep getting the message out there about the rising cost of living, and how we need to work even harder to make sure we don't get any more of the same. We can build the Patriot Economy and help save the country, and together, we can build a better, more freedom-loving companies who actually support you. I know it's hard to believe this day and age in corporate America, but it actually exists! on Public Square, Public Square is the marketplace for the patriot economy, where you can find businesses and consumers who actually share your values. You can put power behind your purchase and let your dollars actually reflect your values, and you can vote with your wallet, and help make the country a better place. Vote With Your Wallet, and Together, vote with Your Wallet and together we can help save The Patriarchy . I want to build the country and help build the Patriarchy economy and help fight for the country. - Don Jr., Patrick J.J.R. "Don Jr., 98 98- 98-98-99-99 . of the Birch Gold Group by Don J.D. Jr., Jr., Sr., 98-99, 98-01-01/99-02-03-04-05-07-07.


Transcript

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00:06:09.000 hey guys welcome to another huge episode Tonight we're going to do something a little bit different.
00:06:30.000 We're going to take a detour from the usual heavy, hard-hitting politics.
00:06:34.000 And instead, we're going to be focused on one of my major projects, one of my pet projects, a fun one, the Field Ethos Journal.
00:06:42.000 Sort of my outdoor publication, multimedia brand.
00:06:45.000 I know I've talked about it on the show before, but, you know...
00:06:49.000 Many of these, even hunting magazines, shockingly enough, have gone sort of woke or just super apologetic.
00:06:55.000 So, me and a couple friends, we decided to build our own.
00:07:00.000 And we'll be joined by my co-founder Jason Vincent and our chief operating officer Mike Scobie.
00:07:05.000 These are true animals.
00:07:07.000 They'll be a lot of fun.
00:07:09.000 I imagine I'm going to be sitting here embarrassed in the not-too-distant future.
00:07:13.000 So we're going to have some fun.
00:07:15.000 Who knows where the conversation is going to go.
00:07:17.000 But, you know, we talk about building our own.
00:07:19.000 We talk about taking on the people who have gone woke.
00:07:21.000 We're doing it. And this is yet another example of that.
00:07:24.000 So I promise, even if you don't necessarily love hunting, it's not just that.
00:07:28.000 It's fishing. It's adventure lifestyle.
00:07:31.000 It's just, you know... Being a dude.
00:07:34.000 All that kind of good stuff.
00:07:36.000 And if you're a woman, you can still actually appreciate that in 2024.
00:07:39.000 I know that probably makes you a misogynist or some shit, but I think you guys will like it.
00:07:43.000 So guys, make sure you're hitting the like button, share, subscribe.
00:07:47.000 Let's keep getting the message out there.
00:07:49.000 The rest of big tech is...
00:07:51.000 As we all understand and know, stacked against us, so we have to work even harder to make sure we break through all of the noise and grow the movement.
00:07:59.000 Also remember, you can get triggered on Spotify, on Apple Podcasts if you missed the show here, or if you know people who perhaps get their podcast that way, pass it on.
00:08:08.000 Get it out there. A big theme of this episode is going to be about Building your own, taking on that establishment, and just going for it, just like we did with Field Ethos.
00:08:19.000 And honestly, just like we did with Public Square, which is now an official sponsor of this show, guys.
00:08:26.000 Public Square, it's the marketplace for the patriot economy where you can find businesses and consumers who actually share your values.
00:08:35.000 I know! I know, that's hard to believe this day and age in corporate America, but it actually exists.
00:08:40.000 On Public Square, you can put power behind your purchase and let your dollars actually reflect your values.
00:08:46.000 Don't give your money to companies who hate your guts.
00:08:49.000 Give it to freedom-loving companies who actually support you.
00:08:52.000 And if you're a business, there's millions of consumers looking to find you.
00:08:57.000 List your business on Public Square and move our country one step closer to defeating woke capital.
00:09:03.000 reject DEI, reject ESG, all of the other nonsense that really emboils the madness of the far left.
00:09:13.000 So just go to the Public Square app today.
00:09:16.000 You can get the app on iTunes, you can get it on Google.
00:09:19.000 Just download the app or go to publicsquare.com, vote with your wallet.
00:09:26.000 And together, guys, we can build the Patriot economy and help save the country.
00:09:31.000 And also, guys, remember to take care of your personal health and wellness
00:09:36.000 with The Wellness Company.
00:09:38.000 You've heard me talk about their emergency medical kits and being prepared in a time of crisis.
00:09:42.000 But now they have a brand new product to ensure that you also get a good night's sleep.
00:09:47.000 Reality is, most of us aren't getting enough sleep.
00:09:50.000 I know. That's me.
00:09:52.000 That's probably because I drink like 1500 milligrams of caffeine a day, so I'm lucky if I ever sleep.
00:09:56.000 But sleep deprivation is linked to a whole lot of health problems like obesity, diabetes, etc.
00:10:03.000 And while many think... We're good to go.
00:10:30.000 Go to TWC, like the wellness company, TWC.health slash triggered to save 15% plus free shipping.
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00:10:43.000 And guys, we talk about it all the time, the need to protect your financial health.
00:10:48.000 And you can do that with the Birch Gold Group by texting Don Jr., D-O-N-J-R, to the number 98 98 98.
00:10:57.000 It's that simple. Don Jr., D-O-N-J-R, 98 98 98.
00:11:01.000 But joining me now is Philip Patrick, actually of the Birch Gold Group.
00:11:06.000 And so, Philip, thanks for being here.
00:11:07.000 And I want to talk a little bit about inflation with you today.
00:11:10.000 Thank you so much for having me.
00:11:13.000 So Americans are noticeably and visibly upset about the rising cost of living.
00:11:19.000 It doesn't seem to be getting any better, candidly.
00:11:21.000 It seems to be getting worse.
00:11:23.000 I notice it. Honestly, if I notice it myself, and again, I understand where I'm from.
00:11:27.000 I'm the son of a billionaire. But if I'm upset when I go to the grocery store with my kids or to a fast food place, you know, what's going on?
00:11:34.000 What's the latest inflation update?
00:11:36.000 I mean, it, as you know well, has been a disaster under this administration.
00:11:42.000 The March consumer price index numbers came out on the 10th.
00:11:45.000 The all items index rose 3.5% year over year.
00:11:50.000 Core CPI, which is all items less food and energy, also risen up 3.8% year over year.
00:11:58.000 I think any speculation of The Fed lowering interest rates anytime soon at this point feels a little bit absurd.
00:12:19.000 Particularly when we factor in inflation is currently double the Federal Reserve's target.
00:12:24.000 At this point it feels like a sign that inflation has become entrenched.
00:12:28.000 Essentially prices are not coming down anytime soon.
00:12:32.000 And it seems realistic, but as you know well, it's been a consistent theme under this administration.
00:12:38.000 Cumulative inflation under the Biden administration has been about 19% total, averaging 6% a year.
00:12:46.000 And the reason people are feeling the pain, it's the essentials that are really rising.
00:12:51.000 Food, energy, housing, up over 30%.
00:12:55.000 Now, we're told by the White House, well, inflation's lower.
00:12:59.000 But what that means is prices are still rising just a little bit slower than they were before.
00:13:05.000 Yeah, no, they only talk about the rise in the rate, not actual inflation.
00:13:09.000 And they have sort of their lackeys in the press doing the same thing.
00:13:13.000 You know, Paul Krugman, he's a Nobel laureate economist.
00:13:16.000 He goes, you know, inflation's actually coming down, I think it was if you took out energy, housing, transportation, and food.
00:13:24.000 I'm like, well, like, honestly, like, what else is there?
00:13:26.000 Like, that's wonderful.
00:13:27.000 We'll take out literally...
00:13:29.000 Everything you need to survive in America today.
00:13:32.000 And then it's like, oh, the numbers outside of that stuff, outside of everything, they look wonderful.
00:13:36.000 I mean, this is a serious problem, right?
00:13:39.000 The Fed started raising interest rates over two years ago.
00:13:42.000 Inflation clearly has not gotten under control.
00:13:45.000 You're talking about that doesn't look like that's going to happen anytime soon, given sort of where we are in the metric.
00:13:51.000 Forget about lowering interest rates.
00:13:53.000 Could the Fed go back to raising rates at this point?
00:13:56.000 I mean, look, if they really cared about fighting inflation and that was the only focus, then the answer would be yes.
00:14:03.000 But I don't think it's on the cards at the moment.
00:14:06.000 We've got to remember, major banks recently reported very disappointing first quarter earnings.
00:14:12.000 And that's a problem because when interest rates go up, banks lose money, right?
00:14:16.000 Both on the value of the assets that they hold and the fact that they have to pay depositors more.
00:14:22.000 The US banking system is already in trouble.
00:14:24.000 We're sitting on about half a trillion dollars in losses.
00:14:28.000 And, you know, any increase in rates threatens to cause another wave of bank failures.
00:14:33.000 I think that's why the Fed were forced to stop raising rates after SVB failed.
00:14:38.000 So it's kind of a tough position the Fed are in.
00:14:41.000 They can do nothing and let inflation smoulder, or they can raise rates.
00:14:45.000 To fight inflation and risk destabilizing the banking system.
00:14:49.000 I think given the choice, they're always going to choose systemic stability over the American family.
00:14:55.000 We've just got to think about who got bailed out in the great financial crisis.
00:15:00.000 It wasn't the people.
00:15:02.000 Well, I mean, I guess with all that in mind, what makes gold a smart investment right now for people who are looking to diversify their portfolio to hedge against some of this insanity and the inflation?
00:15:10.000 You know, why is that a smart move?
00:15:13.000 Look, it's sadly the realities of the Biden economy.
00:15:17.000 Look at the problems we're facing, the sheer number of them.
00:15:20.000 We're talking about inflation.
00:15:22.000 We're seeing a world running away from the dollar at the moment.
00:15:26.000 Very concerning.
00:15:27.000 We have recession on the horizon.
00:15:30.000 All of these problems are killers for those sitting in traditional assets, if you will, but they are very positive drivers for safe haven commodities like gold and silver.
00:15:42.000 Central banks around the world, 22 and 23, were the single biggest years for gold buying by central banks ever in history, and it's for the same reasons.
00:15:52.000 They're holding dollars, they're seeing a loss of purchasing power, and they're hedging that exposure with gold.
00:15:58.000 What applies to them applies to us as individuals, of course, just at a smaller scale.
00:16:03.000 I think the old saying is you follow the smart money, and if central banks are buying at levels never seen before in history, it's a sign that we should follow suit.
00:16:12.000 Well, Phillip, I appreciate it.
00:16:14.000 Thank you. And guys, again, if you want to learn more, if you want to educate yourself, if you don't want to just sort of sit there, stick your head in the sand, text Don Jr., D-O-N-J-R, to the number 989898.
00:16:26.000 That's the Birch Girl Group. You can learn about it, educate yourself, make an informed decision for yourself, and ultimately, learn more.
00:16:32.000 Protect yourselves. Don't let this insanity swallow you whole.
00:16:37.000 And I guess with that, guys, joining me now from Field Ethos, my outdoor sort of brand and publication, we got Jason Vincent and Mike Scobie.
00:16:47.000 What's happening, boys? What's up, Don?
00:16:49.000 How are you? I'm doing well.
00:16:52.000 Like I said, I'm going to have to sign up to the above because I've been a little bit sleep-deprived, as I told you earlier.
00:16:58.000 So I'm going to make you guys carry most of this one because I'm a lazy bastard.
00:17:01.000 Dude, Scobie and I can carry this, no problem.
00:17:03.000 Actually, you can go ahead and sign off.
00:17:07.000 How about you guys have at it?
00:17:09.000 I just want to do a pre-recorded intro and I'll just let you take over the podcast.
00:17:12.000 It's so much easier than actually putting in the work and the time.
00:17:14.000 I gotta say, Scobie jumped onto this one with all this stuff in the background.
00:17:20.000 And I thought he went somewhere really cool to record this episode.
00:17:24.000 And he's actually just sitting in his living room.
00:17:27.000 Scobie, is that the only corner of your house that's not just like piled up with guns and ammunition?
00:17:33.000 Yeah. This house is either guns, ammo, or kids' toys, and it's hard finding a clean spot where there's not Tonka trucks and Barbie dolls and mixed in with all kinds of sporty gear.
00:17:43.000 So it's the one clean corner of the house I could find.
00:17:45.000 Yeah, I mean, I'm looking. I see Kipling in the background, Hemingway.
00:17:49.000 It's almost as though, like, you're a sophisticant, which we all know to not be the case.
00:17:54.000 Yep, there's a few books there.
00:17:55.000 To stay on brand, that Hemingway book, the big one, is a first edition of the Hemingway Rye.
00:18:01.000 So if you open it up, it's actually just a bottle of rye in there that may or may not be empty.
00:18:05.000 Well, as long as we're day drinking, I mean, it's early enough in the day, especially in Montana where you're at, so that's a good start.
00:18:11.000 I'm pretty sure every book that you can see behind SCOBY is full of some type of whiskey.
00:18:16.000 Or a gun. Yeah, or a gun.
00:18:19.000 But, you know, maybe a good place to start, actually.
00:18:23.000 And your sponsors will, I'm sure, love this.
00:18:26.000 But I would like to actually talk a little bit about the two sponsors you just mentioned.
00:18:31.000 Because SCOBY and I first, we actually had a meeting with Wellness Company this week.
00:18:36.000 They sent us a message to our Instagram, which...
00:18:39.000 If you're not following our Instagram, we're very active there.
00:18:43.000 But Scoby, I had actually seen the wellness company on your social media and just kind of took a glance at it and went, well, kind of seems cool.
00:18:51.000 You know, you can get prescriptions for travel.
00:18:54.000 And Scoby and I had a meeting with them this week.
00:18:57.000 And basically, if you, you know, Scoby just got back from, where were you, Scoby, last week?
00:19:04.000 Yucatan Peninsula, Mexico, Jungle of Mexico.
00:19:06.000 Yeah, no access.
00:19:08.000 Not like Cancun, Yucatan, like the actual jungle.
00:19:11.000 I mean, it looked like you were hunting rodents along with oscillated turkeys.
00:19:15.000 A little bit of whatever the jungle provided down there.
00:19:17.000 But yeah, I mean, Jason and I were just talking about this.
00:19:20.000 You know, we both are, we do a lot of international travel.
00:19:23.000 We have friends that are doctors that, you know, you can get some preventative prescriptions, doxycycline and amoxicillin, things like that.
00:19:30.000 But if you don't have that kind of friend network to say, okay, I'm going to Yucatan or I'm going to Africa, places where, you know, medical services are not widely available, it's a great idea to be able to prepack all this stuff, take it with you and have your own medical pharmacy with you.
00:19:45.000 Yeah, Scobie sent me a picture from the cinder block shanty that he was staying in in the jungle because they actually took a, what is the Elon Musk's Wi-Fi thing?
00:20:00.000 Starlink. You guys took Starlink down there so he could get pictures out.
00:20:04.000 He was trying to get me pictures for Field Ethos.
00:20:06.000 And it was this massive spider on his pillow in his bed.
00:20:10.000 And I just thought, like, we were talking about the wellness company, and you can take all of these prescriptions and things with you, whether it's for some type of infection or a bite or burns or whatever else.
00:20:26.000 There's all kinds of different medicines in there.
00:20:27.000 And we're like, man, what a cool company.
00:20:29.000 Well, yeah, I mean, we're going to Africa next month.
00:20:32.000 You know, I know I was in Tanzania in the Messiah with Donnie, you know, last summer.
00:20:38.000 We're going next month because of, you know, a thing we're working on with, you know, Rigby Gunmakers out of London.
00:20:43.000 So, I mean, yeah, no, it makes a lot of sense.
00:20:46.000 We're going to need you to get us some free kits, Don.
00:20:49.000 Listen, I'll work on that.
00:20:51.000 I don't know if, you know, maybe they'll hook me up.
00:20:53.000 Otherwise, you can get 15% using my promo code.
00:20:55.000 So, you know, get after it, guys. Or you can buy them for us.
00:21:00.000 Why don't you give everyone who's not, you know, who doesn't know, because again, I've talked about it on the show.
00:21:06.000 If you follow me on social, you know, certainly on Instagram, you see me, you know, we'll put up, you know, I'll put up spearfishing videos where we're, you know, chasing after like 400-pound bluefin tuna with spear guns and, you know, sheep in Mongolia and, you know, eating sheep meat cooked over, you know, horse shit, you know, all over the world.
00:21:24.000 But, you know, Jason, give a little bit of, you know, the audience, you know, a background on Field Ethos.
00:21:30.000 I mean, sort of, you know, what it is, what it stands for, how it's even evolved in the last few years that we've been doing this.
00:21:36.000 Yeah, so it started really with...
00:21:40.000 With us wanting to create something that actually spoke to us, right?
00:21:46.000 Something that you and I would want to read.
00:21:47.000 You and I were having a conversation on a hunt about how there was very little out there that even in the firearms and hunting industry and that side of our lifestyle, there's very little out there that actually spoke to me and you.
00:22:02.000 And everything had just kind of gone...
00:22:06.000 Soft. Really soft.
00:22:08.000 And we wanted something that was a little bit more inspirational, that was unapologetic, that kind of communicated the way that you and I like to communicate.
00:22:18.000 And so we kind of...
00:22:21.000 We built a plan, figured out how this whole thing was going to look.
00:22:27.000 One of the things I wanted to do was leverage mine and your friendship to get me access to cool hunts that I wouldn't get to go on unless I went with you.
00:22:36.000 Fair. I used you.
00:22:38.000 Yeah, it's cool.
00:22:40.000 I used you in the early days.
00:22:42.000 Then we brought on some other friends, Dave Edder, Colin Jones.
00:22:47.000 We ended up in just kind of a random meeting with Scobie, and I had heard Scobie's name kind of thrown around before.
00:22:55.000 And to describe Scobie very quickly, I was talking to an outfitter in Africa one time, and I said, I think Mike Scobie's going to come work with us.
00:23:06.000 And this is a guy on the other side of the world, and he goes, Oh, man, that guy's a legend.
00:23:10.000 I've heard about him in my camp.
00:23:11.000 People talk about him around the campfire.
00:23:14.000 Usually in a bad way, but you can still be a legend, even if it's like you're a legendary dickhead.
00:23:19.000 It's fine. We had this meeting with Scobie, and we were trying to figure out how to maybe work together at our two different companies.
00:23:29.000 We got off the phone, and...
00:23:31.000 About 30 minutes later, I called Dave and I was like, man, we've got to figure out a way to hire that guy.
00:23:36.000 That guy is awesome. And Dave said, well, it's funny that you say that because Scobie actually called me after the call and said, man, keep me in mind for the growth of your company.
00:23:46.000 And so anyways, we brought on Mike Scobie and things just really kind of started to take shape.
00:23:51.000 Yeah, for people who don't know, you know, Mike basically was, you know, led one of the leading sort of publications in outdoor, you know, in sort of the outdoor space, guns, hunting, shooting, you know, for years and literally just liked what we were doing, you know, left to join a startup, you know, one of probably, I don't want to say an easy job, but, you know, a cush job with sort of recurring revenue that was just sort of, you know, you're the king in the space to go work at this sort of little, you know, rabble-rousy kind of startup job.
00:24:18.000 So, Mike, what was that like? Fun.
00:24:20.000 That's why I did it. It was fun.
00:24:23.000 I think not only was hunting and gun magazines getting really woke, to Jason and your point.
00:24:28.000 Woke, soft, apologetic, all terms there, but also...
00:24:33.000 They're very vertically integrated.
00:24:35.000 So if you look at like hunting publications today, if you're interested just in whitetails, you know, there's a publication for you.
00:24:40.000 If you're interested just in, you know, whatever it might be, waterfowl, upland bird hunting, elk hunting, there's some kind of dedicated, that's all they cover.
00:24:47.000 And what really attracted to me about Field Ethos, the nature of the guys around, it was fun.
00:24:51.000 That was always a draw, but we've created a brand that you can pick up any magazine, any one of our magazines, and it may have an African safari piece, It may have a piece on Rolex watches.
00:25:03.000 It may have a piece on spearfishing.
00:25:04.000 It may have a piece of inside, you know, Guatemala, Central American prisons, trafficking AKs around the world or the underground gun culture of, you know, the Middle East.
00:25:13.000 It's a fascinating magazine.
00:25:15.000 I got really bored of just...
00:25:17.000 We're just doing another whitetail story or this is just purely a duck story.
00:25:20.000 I always use the example that, you know, the article I've seen, you know, 9,476 ways to catch spring bass.
00:25:27.000 I'm like, ugh. Or the stories, you know, we went on an elk hunt and we saved the hoof so that we could carve chess pieces out of it because, you know, I guess that had to be the justification for hunting as opposed to, you know, hey, the meat's going to be used, but we actually like to hunt and that's okay.
00:25:45.000 Or adventure. Think about all of our conversations offline.
00:25:49.000 It ranges from literally watches to motorcycles to guns to cheap guns to expensive guns.
00:25:55.000 We have a broad breadth of interest, which I think is true of most of the sportsmen out there.
00:26:00.000 Of course, our followers are into that.
00:26:03.000 They like that broad breadth of things like we do, and it makes for a much more interesting conversation.
00:26:08.000 Yeah, and I feel like we were just hungry for a brand that...
00:26:17.000 That basically reflected how we speak to one another around a campfire, right?
00:26:22.000 Those conversations, those personalities that show up when nobody else is looking, you know, that you can just be who you are and live the life that we want to live, regardless of what other people think about it.
00:26:37.000 That was how we wanted to form this brand.
00:26:39.000 And we've done that.
00:26:41.000 You know, the... From the articles and our website, even our products, basically our personalities are involved in every aspect of our business.
00:26:53.000 So it's an unapologetic brand that we're using to try to inspire others to live an iconic life and do it in a way that they don't have to guard their words or Change who they are just because people are watching.
00:27:11.000 And so we've done that.
00:27:13.000 And Don, you're kind of an expert at that, of kind of the unapologetic, just be who you are.
00:27:19.000 By the way, I had a...
00:27:22.000 A reporter from the Times UK reach out wanting to do a piece on, she said she wanted to do a piece on Fioritas, but what she was really wanting to do was a piece on Don.
00:27:34.000 And we were talking and she was like, how is it working with Don?
00:27:40.000 And I said, well... I'm somewhat of the hot-headed one.
00:27:44.000 I'm kind of the gas, and Don's a lot of times the brakes.
00:27:47.000 He's just very contemplative, and she couldn't believe it.
00:27:51.000 Hey, contrary to popular belief, folks, it's not just fire and brimstone, though I can do that pretty well myself.
00:27:57.000 Yeah, but you represent kind of the unfiltered, unapologetic male in this country, and you're very, very kind of out front with that stuff.
00:28:11.000 And you also have this whole other life, I think, that people are shocked to find out about.
00:28:18.000 I mean, you started shooting and hunting when you were like 12, and you're a few years older than me.
00:28:24.000 So, I mean, we've been, we've both been at this forever.
00:28:28.000 Scoby's been, been hunting and shooting since he was a little kid.
00:28:32.000 You know, you, you have been on some of the most difficult hunts in the world, sheep hunts
00:28:37.000 and things like that.
00:28:38.000 Scoby has been on just about every hunt in the world.
00:28:41.000 He's probably the most traveled, traveled friend I have.
00:28:45.000 But really, it was an opportunity for us to go, alright, let's take this side of our lives that we love a lot and turn it into a business for all of us that we have fun doing.
00:28:56.000 And it's a lot of fun.
00:28:58.000 I mean, the three of us are going to meet up in, what, three weeks to hunt in Africa with Rigby Rifles, one of the most legendary rifle companies of all time.
00:29:09.000 And we get to go over there and hunt with these guys and hunt together and just goof off.
00:29:14.000 Yeah, you know, I don't know if we're allowed to even talk about it yet, but even doing a collab with a 200-year-old British company as a four-year-old brand, their first sort of like, you know, let's call it co-brand collab in its history.
00:29:27.000 I'm like, man, it feels like we're doing something right because of that.
00:29:30.000 Yeah, and Scobie will tell you they approached us about that, which when Scobie told me about it, He said, man, what an honor to have this company want to put our name associated with their brand.
00:29:45.000 I mean, honestly, I'm shocked that they have watched some of the things that we've done and agreed to even work with us.
00:29:51.000 I agree. I'm like, wait, I thought it was like, wait, is it like...
00:29:56.000 April 1st, like, are you fucking with me?
00:29:59.000 Like, that's just gotta be a joke, but it isn't.
00:30:01.000 But I think you're right.
00:30:03.000 I mean, we're also onto something, because I think one of the sort of statistics when I'm looking at Field Ethos is, like, where we are actually with female following.
00:30:11.000 And, like, in the hunting space, Mike, you can talk about this more, but, you know, if you had a hunting magazine that has 3% female following 5% female following.
00:30:20.000 That would be, like, a huge win.
00:30:21.000 And we're at, like, 32, 33% female following, which is, like, it's almost like everything we're talking about.
00:30:27.000 Like, hey, like, chicks actually don't necessarily want, like, effeminate men.
00:30:32.000 Like, it's okay to actually be masculine.
00:30:34.000 Toxic masculinity is a leftist soundbite, and it's totally bullshit.
00:30:38.000 Like, everyone hates the toxic masculine guy until the shit hits the fan and they actually need them to save their ass.
00:30:45.000 Now, it's been shocking to see that.
00:30:47.000 And kind of harking back to what Jason was saying about getting called by London Times, we've been profiled as a men's adventure lifestyle magazine by Slate, by Politico, by London Times.
00:31:00.000 And all of them, I think, went into that conversation or that interview with a gotcha moment, a gotcha against Field Ethos, a gotcha against Don, you personally.
00:31:09.000 And at the end of the day, they all wrote Yeah, we honestly, both of those articles were very fair representations of who we are and what we're doing.
00:31:30.000 I was shocked about that, by the way.
00:31:31.000 I figured the Slate one was just going to be like, you know, Don Jr.
00:31:34.000 is Satan and these people are, you know, borderline retarded.
00:31:38.000 You're allowed to say that these days, that it's making a comeback, despite I'll probably get canceled anyway, etc.
00:31:44.000 It was like, I read it, I was like...
00:31:46.000 Yeah, like, you know, that's obviously left-leaning, but, like, I'm fine with anything in here.
00:31:52.000 Well, both of the articles were written by liberal females, and if you read the articles, you know, one of them, the writer for Slate, you could tell she actually likes us.
00:32:02.000 She didn't come out and say that, but she was like, you know, I like what these guys are doing.
00:32:07.000 I bought all their magazines.
00:32:09.000 Politico was very much the same way.
00:32:10.000 Rosie wrote an awesome article that I thought was very fair.
00:32:14.000 So to have Those two writers look at our brand and not absolutely trash us.
00:32:22.000 We felt like, alright, well, at least they get what we're doing.
00:32:25.000 They might not agree with it, but they don't hate it.
00:32:27.000 And I think that's because It's just an accurate portrayal of who we are.
00:32:33.000 You know, Scobie will tell you that our female demographic following is largely there because we are putting ourselves out there as a masculine lifestyle brand.
00:32:47.000 And we're not pandering to anybody.
00:32:50.000 We don't want women to feel excluded.
00:32:53.000 We love it when they participate in our brand.
00:32:55.000 We have female writers and things like that.
00:32:58.000 Things have gotten so bad in our country and in the world that it's becoming popular again just to not pander.
00:33:09.000 I mean, it doesn't even really matter what side you're on as long as it's obvious that you're just being true and not pandering to a group.
00:33:17.000 I think we've gone so far the other direction where, you know, oh, she's a female hunter or it's a black hunter.
00:33:24.000 You know, there's the entire organizations about black outdoorsmen and female outdoorsmen shoot like a woman.
00:33:29.000 It's like, how about just shoot?
00:33:30.000 How about just hunt? How about just be a hunter?
00:33:32.000 You know, I don't think we've part and parceled.
00:33:36.000 Those segments of the industry out.
00:33:37.000 We've just said you're part of the tribe, regardless if you're a woman, black, somebody of color, don't care.
00:33:42.000 You're a hunter, adventurer, fisherman, don't care.
00:33:45.000 And that's, I think, a major difference between Field Ethos and many other organizations today.
00:33:51.000 Yeah, no, I feel like so many of the other, you know, when they have females, it's like, here's a female in a bikini exercising terrible trigger discipline, holding a gun that she's clearly never shot before.
00:34:02.000 And they're like, well, that's normal.
00:34:04.000 That's their female following. Whereas ours are, you know, it's Rachel Carey, who's like a world, literally a world-class shooter.
00:34:10.000 You know, Kristen Oteo, who's a taxidermist, like does that for a living.
00:34:14.000 You know, they're not like, you know, Here, you're going to be in the outdoors for the first time.
00:34:18.000 There are people that actually live the similar, you know, lifestyle to us.
00:34:22.000 I mean, the Slate article was sort of interesting because, I mean, it actually called us, Field Ethos was strangely captivating.
00:34:28.000 And this was coming from, you know, obviously a liberal woman that writes for Slate magazine.
00:34:32.000 What do you think? Whether it was Politico or Slate, that it would have been different had it been a liberal man writing the article?
00:34:40.000 Is it the woman thing, because they're like, you know what, maybe a little bit of that masculinity is actually what's missing in our lives right now, that they're all of a sudden fascinated?
00:34:49.000 I definitely think it would have been different.
00:34:52.000 I definitely would have been different.
00:34:54.000 But, you know, we've reached a point where Whatever you're doing, as long as it's the truth, is refreshing and different.
00:35:07.000 As long as you're actually honest with how you're putting yourself out there, that's what's different.
00:35:12.000 We're not influencers.
00:35:14.000 We're not posting selfie TikTok videos with music, with our hunting gear on.
00:35:19.000 We're just being who we are.
00:35:22.000 And You know, I hate the word ambassador, but we're bringing all these people into our, kind of our brand, into our community or whatever you would want to call it.
00:35:35.000 I mean, SCOBY is even, we even have a midget demographic because of SCOBY. True.
00:35:43.000 Large midget, well, kind of a pun intended, large midget demographic, yeah.
00:35:47.000 Yeah, Scobie really has been an ambassador to the midget community, and he's kind of pioneering a midget voice within our brand, and so we're throwing out a pretty broad net these days.
00:36:01.000 But on this Africa trip, it's the first time the three of us have gotten a chance to hang out in Quite a while.
00:36:09.000 I mean, obviously you're busy, Don.
00:36:11.000 We see each other briefly at trade shows and things like that.
00:36:16.000 But it is the first time the three of us in maybe a year have gotten to hang out where it wasn't like, all right, we're on a mission to get business done.
00:36:27.000 So we actually get to spend some time goofing off and hanging out.
00:36:33.000 What are you hoping to get out of this trip, since you obviously don't get this many breaks right now?
00:36:41.000 Listen, just looking to chill out.
00:36:43.000 The campfire time is everything for me.
00:36:46.000 It's actually much less about the hunt these days.
00:36:49.000 I'll put myself through the ringer maybe later in the summer before on a sheep hunt, but that's literally by yourself.
00:36:56.000 You know, in a tent, you know, no base camp, no nothing camp.
00:36:59.000 Like, it's more of an endurance challenge than anything.
00:37:01.000 But like, you know, in Africa stuff, when you can, you know, have a little bit more of a collective, it's a little less, you know, myopically focused on a single thing.
00:37:09.000 And, you know, it's just, it's so much fun.
00:37:11.000 So I'm just, honestly, I'm looking forward to the stories around a campfire.
00:37:14.000 I'm looking forward to that time because, you know...
00:37:17.000 Man, we live in crazy times.
00:37:19.000 I know my world's going to be pretty insane this year.
00:37:22.000 Obviously, there's going to be a lot less of the outdoor stuff that, you know, I got to do because, you know, I'm hunting something very different.
00:37:30.000 And it's, you know, it's going to be nuts.
00:37:32.000 So I'm looking forward to it.
00:37:33.000 Just like kind of downtime with friends and...
00:37:38.000 Yeah, that's the stuff that's sort of gone missing from it.
00:37:40.000 You know, these days, you know, I feel like somebody in the public, you know, everything's about, well, you know, if you shot a 169 whitetail, but it wasn't 170, it's like you didn't really shoot a whitetail.
00:37:49.000 It's like, it's become such bullshit.
00:37:51.000 You're chasing, you know, every quarter inch, and it's unrealistic for most people, you know, whether it's geographically or cost-wise or anything.
00:37:57.000 So, you know, the reality for me is, you know, I will say, you know, the hunting, fishing, outdoor shooting, all that stuff kept me out of so much other trouble growing up as a kid from New York City, because it was sort of hard to get in trouble if you're going to meet a duck blind at 4.30 in the morning.
00:38:09.000 I was certainly no angel, but these things are there.
00:38:15.000 And that's the part that's not conveyed these days.
00:38:17.000 It's the camaraderie, the stories, the bullshitting, the ball-breaking.
00:38:21.000 I mean, the ball-breaking will be epic.
00:38:24.000 That may even get to be too much for this show, especially once you incorporate, let's call it, SCOBY levels of booze to the mix, etc., etc.
00:38:32.000 It's going to... Actually, or Jason, you know, there's some good stories there, too.
00:38:38.000 Yeah, I'm no stranger to the imbibing.
00:38:41.000 No, you usually get, like, thrown out of the trade shows after the first day, so, you know, it's solid.
00:38:46.000 Then it's like, I gotta do all this shit here?
00:38:48.000 Like, this is, yeah. So on our last safari that Scobie and I did together, he tells me that he gets in the Land Cruiser and he's like, hey, I brought a flask for us.
00:39:01.000 And I was like, oh, great. You know, we'll open the flask a little bit later and have a good time.
00:39:06.000 I turn around and Scobie has a flask that is about 12 inches tall and 10 inches wide.
00:39:13.000 It's called a fifth.
00:39:15.000 A whole two-fifths inside of it, actually.
00:39:18.000 Two-fifths? Yeah. I started laughing and Scobie said, I got an entire bottle of booze in this flask.
00:39:24.000 So we're bringing that type of energy to this Africa trip.
00:39:27.000 That's got to be the next Field Ethos product.
00:39:30.000 And I've seen it numerous times with TSA. That flask is no joke.
00:39:33.000 It's that big around. It's that tall.
00:39:35.000 It'll hold two fists easily.
00:39:38.000 We need to stamp that with Field Ethos and then on the bottom in big letters say three ounces because that's all TSA does.
00:39:43.000 They flip it over and go, oh, it's under three ounces?
00:39:45.000 You can bring it. For all they know, it's insulated.
00:39:49.000 It's something or other.
00:39:50.000 Therefore, it could very easily be three ounces, Mike.
00:39:52.000 I like this. So we need a whole section of SCOBY travel hacks.
00:39:59.000 And when we had that meeting with the wellness company this week, I told them we basically needed a flask of whiskey and some hangover remedies in our wellness kit.
00:40:11.000 And I don't think she took that very seriously.
00:40:15.000 Yeah, you can probably drink through malaria and kill that stuff if you go hard enough.
00:40:19.000 But you may not be, you know...
00:40:21.000 SCOBY's never gotten sick.
00:40:25.000 Nothing can actually survive.
00:40:28.000 The mosquitoes bite him and just die.
00:40:31.000 The best travel hack I've gotten, Don, you've experienced it firsthand.
00:40:35.000 We were driving across Colorado smoking cigars in a rental car.
00:40:40.000 Immediately upon picking up your rental car, you call Hertz or National or whomever and say, hey, this car smells like smoke.
00:40:46.000 I just picked it up five minutes ago.
00:40:47.000 And they go, well, bring it back.
00:40:49.000 We'll give you a new one. And you say, no, no, it's all right.
00:40:50.000 I'm already on the road, but I just want to note it in my account.
00:40:52.000 And they go, okay, no problem. And then you can smoke cigars the rest of the trip with zero impunity.
00:40:58.000 So Jason, I mean, we actually have sort of a whole thing going with rental cars and how far we can take it.
00:41:06.000 I mean, some of those hacks end up in our Sunday stories.
00:41:09.000 Maybe talk a little bit about that and sort of the outward participation of others sending in their photos.
00:41:16.000 And that's what's sort of cool about the brand.
00:41:17.000 I mean, it's become sort of organic.
00:41:19.000 Guys that have never written books.
00:41:23.000 You know, professionally or otherwise, sending in an article that's just an absolute, you know, some incredible veterans articles.
00:41:28.000 That's how they got into fly fishing after flying like F-18s and to, you know, just get out of the fog of war and stuff like that.
00:41:34.000 So it's become this sort of just organic, you know, participation.
00:41:38.000 But, you know, talk a little bit about the Sunday stories for those, you know, you want to get a little taste of Field Ethos, you know, before you subscribe to the magazine or anything like that, you know, you can follow us along on Instagram there and we have some fun with it.
00:41:50.000 Yeah, our Sunday Q&As are a time to answer questions from our followers and our readers, and nobody is safe.
00:41:59.000 If you ask a stupid question, you're going to get a stupid answer.
00:42:05.000 There's travel tips, there's gun tips, things like that.
00:42:09.000 I kick a lot of them over to you.
00:42:11.000 And when we're together, I'll actually get you to answer some of those questions sometimes.
00:42:16.000 But it's... People have a lot of fun with Sunday Q&A. It's kind of our biggest thing in terms of participation with our brand.
00:42:26.000 You know, we had a question recently that was, you know, I'm in my 20s.
00:42:33.000 What's the best way for me to actually find a woman I can marry?
00:42:38.000 And my response was like, you know, go outside the country.
00:42:43.000 White women under 40 are the most dangerous creatures on the planet.
00:42:48.000 And it obviously is a joke, right?
00:42:51.000 My wife is white and she's 39, right?
00:42:55.000 So I was just, and what I said was you're rolling the dice if you marry a white woman under 40 is how I phrased it.
00:43:01.000 So that gave you just enough leeway to get out of trouble, right?
00:43:05.000 Rolling the dice, which means I'm not talking about all of them.
00:43:09.000 So we get this long email from this female follower and subscriber, like, I'm canceling my subscription because of the way you guys talk about white women and blah blah blah.
00:43:18.000 And I was like... First of all, I said you're rolling the dice.
00:43:22.000 I didn't lump all of them in there.
00:43:23.000 We would never do that.
00:43:27.000 That said, on a per capita basis, you're probably still accurate.
00:43:30.000 But you are exactly who I was referring to, and we're happy to lose you as a subscriber.
00:43:39.000 So it's a way for us just to put ourselves out there a little bit in a real honest way and have a lot of fun with it.
00:43:48.000 We get probably...
00:43:51.000 200 to 300 questions a Sunday.
00:43:54.000 And we'll answer 75 to 100 of them.
00:43:58.000 And honestly, there have been times where I've had a few drinks, maybe on a flight, and I fire up the old Q&A. And the next day I look at them and I'm just thankful we still have sponsors.
00:44:10.000 Some of the times I look at them and I'm like, oh, man.
00:44:14.000 And again, it's not like I'm exactly known for restraint or being reserved.
00:44:19.000 So if I'm like... It would basically be if you got drunk Don to answer a bunch of questions.
00:44:25.000 And sometimes that comes through.
00:44:27.000 But yeah, it's a lot of fun.
00:44:29.000 The rental car thing, it actually, you know, promoting our unapologetic use of rental cars started when we were throwing dead coyotes in the back of a Tahoe in Kansas in the middle of winter.
00:44:42.000 And I tagged Enterprise Rental Car in it.
00:44:46.000 And we just we kept showing clips of us piling up this Tahoe with dead coyotes and and I had somebody from rental car reach out on our Sunday Q&A and he was like high level person with enterprise and he's like this is great.
00:45:01.000 I want to set you guys up with with a national account because you guys are obviously traveling a lot and you do You do work-related things.
00:45:11.000 But he's like, man, a couple of us have sent these around to each other at Enterprise, and we love this stuff.
00:45:16.000 And then you guys kind of one-upped it with Chess McDowell.
00:45:19.000 Oh, yeah. We've got some really big, you know, Black Bear in North Carolina in the back of really small cars.
00:45:25.000 And we've all, you know, I think we had like three mule deer or like two whitetails and a mule deer in a, you know, in a midsize SUV just last year with, you know, with Spencer out there.
00:45:34.000 And In the Dakotas?
00:45:37.000 And Scobie with his cigar smoking, we're careful to show that after the trip, not during the trip.
00:45:45.000 I'm pretty sure Scobie has actually been charged for smoking in a rental car before.
00:45:49.000 But yeah, we kind of take everything that we do while we're on trips and show everybody what we're up to.
00:45:58.000 And it's kind of the good, the bad, and the ugly.
00:46:01.000 Where... No smart media company would show the things that we show.
00:46:12.000 But I think that's what's missing.
00:46:14.000 Everyone thinks that.
00:46:15.000 Everyone's worried about what HR is going to say.
00:46:19.000 I think people are sick of that shit.
00:46:22.000 We've sort of taken the opposite approach.
00:46:24.000 Let's just do what's actually happening.
00:46:26.000 Let's say the things that people are actually thinking.
00:46:28.000 Ask the questions or make the inappropriate comment that everyone's probably thinking about doing.
00:46:32.000 And when you do that, everyone, it's sort of, you know, we enjoy it.
00:46:35.000 And I guess we're also not beholden to that advertiser model because, like, one of the funniest things for this one is as, like, a business guy, you know, the amount of guys that are like, we want to advertise with you.
00:46:44.000 We're like, no thanks. Why not?
00:46:46.000 Because we never actually use your shit.
00:46:47.000 It's garbage. And, like, having, you know, the brand tight that way is sort of nice.
00:46:53.000 We can just choose to not...
00:46:56.000 You know, bombard everyone with all that crap that you see in so much of the other advertising magazine where there's 65 pages of, like, you know, ads for trinkets that are garbage.
00:47:05.000 Yes, Scopey turns down six-figure deals for us that don't represent who we are and our brand, and it would feel like we were just selling out to do these things.
00:47:18.000 Well, I think one of the biggest differences with us, and we kind of come full circle on the brand, Being involved in professional media for 30 years, you're sitting around campfires with very known outdoor writers or television people or personalities, and they've got great stories around a campfire.
00:47:36.000 I mean, things you go, man, that is a fantastic story.
00:47:38.000 Yeah, I wish I could ever write that somewhere.
00:47:40.000 You know, I never could talk about that.
00:47:41.000 You're like, yeah, you can. You know, we've created a brand that we do talk about that.
00:47:45.000 We do talk about all the good, the bad, the ugly, the funny, the off-colored, you know, the things, you know, Don, to your point, sitting around a campfire in Africa, that's where the best stories come out of.
00:47:55.000 And those are the stories that traditional media has tamped down, would never publish, you know, I'm not a fan of sharing that.
00:48:03.000 They've got to always show hunting or fishing or adventuring up in this holier-than-thou light, and they're missing the real story.
00:48:10.000 And that's where I think we're very different in that.
00:48:12.000 It's the honesty. Yeah, I think one of the best articles I see, I won't get into the details of it because I don't know if he wants us talking about it per se, but, you know, sort of this legacy, you know, outdoor writer, you know, written books and books and sort of, and, you know, you've heard the story, you know, greatest hunter, yada, yada, whatever it was, it's like, no, no, no, like, give us the article about, like, when you shat your pants and, like, couldn't hunt, and it was like, Oh, I got that story, actually.
00:48:37.000 Like, let's see what it was. And even for him, you get the article, it's like, wow, this is cool.
00:48:43.000 It's amazing. And even for him, it's like, wow, it was actually so refreshing, you know, writing the article that isn't like, I'm the greatest hunter in the world, and this is what it is, and whatever.
00:48:53.000 Like, it was the just...
00:48:55.000 The stuff that actually happens.
00:48:57.000 Nothing's ever perfect.
00:48:58.000 I thought that was such a cool article and probably one of the only interesting articles I'd probably read in recent time from that group of guys who've just been recycling the same story for decades.
00:49:09.000 We've got a couple writers that...
00:49:12.000 That Scobie has worked with or that I've worked with before Field Ethos that we basically said, look, this is your opportunity to say whatever you want, right?
00:49:20.000 To tell the story the way you wanted to tell it without having to worry about ad dollars or pissing somebody off.
00:49:27.000 Now you can tell the real version of these stories and these guys, they love it.
00:49:32.000 And I would say maybe 10% or actually probably less than 10% of our articles are written by professional writers and guys that are from our industry or that make a living writing.
00:49:46.000 When we started Field Ethos, you and I talked about how we wanted to give everybody an opportunity to tell great stories.
00:49:54.000 We didn't care if you were a great writer, but if you had a great story to tell, we were like, okay, we'll work with these people to publish their stories.
00:50:01.000 So I would say 9 out of 10 of our writers are guys like, Like Josh Kwong, who's an English teacher in Mississippi, half Chinese, half American, English teacher in Mississippi.
00:50:12.000 The guy's amazing. Jimmy Ewing, born and raised in Georgia, homeschooled, just amazing writer.
00:50:20.000 And he's not a writer.
00:50:22.000 He doesn't write for a living.
00:50:23.000 I mean, we brought him... Well, Pat Hemingway Adams.
00:50:25.000 I mean, Hemingway's actual great-grandson.
00:50:28.000 And he's like, hey, I've never really written before.
00:50:30.000 Let's take a shot at this.
00:50:31.000 It's like... Oh crap, that's really good.
00:50:34.000 Pat and I talked on the phone.
00:50:35.000 So yeah, he's Ernest Hemingway's great-grandson.
00:50:38.000 Pat and I talked on the phone one day, a couple years back.
00:50:42.000 And he had found us on social media and I reached out to him and just said, hey, let's talk.
00:50:47.000 And we talked and I was like, man, this guy's got just a great personality.
00:50:51.000 And I said, why don't you write something for us?
00:50:53.000 And he said... Well, I guess I could try.
00:50:55.000 I've never written anything for anybody before outside of school, but let me take a crack at it.
00:51:01.000 And he sent me an article and I called him and I said...
00:51:04.000 We can't run this online.
00:51:06.000 It's too good. We've got to save this one for print.
00:51:09.000 I said, write another one, maybe make it a little bit shorter, but write something that we can put on digital.
00:51:14.000 And he wrote another article and I went, well, we're not putting that online either.
00:51:18.000 And finally, his third article we ran online and saved the first two for print because they were so damn good.
00:51:23.000 But there's a lot of guys that end up on the pages in our magazine that had never written anything before.
00:51:31.000 At least for a publication.
00:51:33.000 And they just have these amazing stories about whether it's a trip they took or a story that their dad had from when he went on a hunt out west.
00:51:43.000 We ran one two issues ago where...
00:51:47.000 The dad went out on a mule deer hunt.
00:51:48.000 It was just this incredible mule deer hunt.
00:51:50.000 And he told the story to his son.
00:51:52.000 His son wrote the story for us.
00:51:54.000 We published it. And unfortunately, his dad had passed away before it went to print.
00:52:01.000 But several of that guy's friends reached out to say, man, this is so cool that you published this story.
00:52:06.000 This is my buddy. It means a lot to him, and it would have meant a ton to his dad.
00:52:11.000 So just... Just cool stuff like that where we're making our audience the storyteller and nobody really seems to do that.
00:52:19.000 It's a much heavier lift on the edit side, but we're producing, we've built kind of this culture around our brand of, hey, this isn't just a representation of us, it's a representation of you and your lifestyle as well.
00:52:34.000 And people have latched onto it because of that.
00:52:36.000 Well, I mean, it sort of started off as, I mean, it's a pretty eclectic crew when you talk about, you know, the guys and the partners in this.
00:52:42.000 I mean, it started off, obviously, you and I having a conversation, and then, you know, you had another friend, you know, who was a former SEAL sniper.
00:52:49.000 You were, you know, a game warden and federal law enforcement officer.
00:52:53.000 You know, Dave Eddard's, like...
00:52:54.000 The best looking waspy guy in New York City, of all places, that runs a bow hunting company out of Park Avenue.
00:53:03.000 And then it sort of just grew from there.
00:53:04.000 If you look at some of the team, we can't even talk about what some of them do, but it is sort of an interesting mix that you get all sorts of perspectives, all sorts of different backgrounds, all sorts of experience that I think, in the aggregate, really makes a big difference in terms of being able to tell that story.
00:53:20.000 Scobia, you can talk about You know, working in even the outdoor space, like how few people, at least that I've met, actually have like much outdoor experience in outdoor publishing.
00:53:29.000 I know Dave, you know, he was one of the only guys when he worked at one of the publications that you eventually were running, like as his first job out of school, was shocked that he was the only guy that had ever killed a deer that worked at a hunting publication.
00:53:40.000 It was like, how is that possible?
00:53:42.000 It's shocking. I mean, there's exceptions to that, right?
00:53:45.000 I mean, you've got the bodies in the world that are Very experienced hunters.
00:53:48.000 They've done everything. And then I've seen the absolute bulk majority on the other side where it's like never have gutted a deer.
00:53:55.000 Might have killed a deer on a guided hunt out of a tree stand and, you know, with a rifle and then had somebody else take care of it for them.
00:54:02.000 Probably did not know how to set up a tree stand, you know, for that matter.
00:54:05.000 Never hung one themselves, you know.
00:54:06.000 So you see the whole breadth of that, you know.
00:54:09.000 I've just been thinking about, it's interesting in the hunting world that you touched on it about being in Africa.
00:54:15.000 The killing, once you've done enough of it, it's still fun.
00:54:18.000 It's still why you go there.
00:54:19.000 It's still the reason to existence, but it's that shared camaraderie.
00:54:23.000 It's the family time. It's the spending time with guys you like and hearing these types of stories firsthand that really is the draw and the attraction.
00:54:32.000 But on the flip side of that, I just got back from Mexico, as Jason was saying.
00:54:37.000 That is an absolute one-percenter, lonely hunt, kind of like you were talking about sheep hunting.
00:54:43.000 The guys that were in camp there all have shot multiple grand slams of sheep.
00:54:47.000 They're worldly, worldly, whether it be contestant-level, whether it be award-winning contestant-level hunters.
00:54:53.000 And they all compared trying to get a brocken deer, which is what we were really ultimately looking for in Mexico, to getting sheep.
00:54:59.000 It was that difficult. And it's I thought about how miserable, not miserable, the hunt.
00:55:04.000 It was an amazing hunt with really cool, you know, experiences in the jungle.
00:55:09.000 But as far as that camaraderie, it was non-existence because you were up three hours before daylight.
00:55:14.000 You were climbing up into Machan, their version of a wood tree stand.
00:55:17.000 And you would sit there all day and eat, you know, rolled up tacos, you know, in your stand.
00:55:21.000 And you would come out at dark and ride back to camp two hours.
00:55:24.000 You know, not talk to anybody all day.
00:55:25.000 Ride back two hours. You'd get back into camp and have dinner at 11 o'clock at night.
00:55:30.000 And you'd roll in to get bit by bugs all night, as Jason was saying, spiders, ticks, fleas, whatever.
00:55:36.000 And then you'd get up and do this again.
00:55:37.000 And I did it for eight days, never saw a brocadeer, never had much of a conversation.
00:55:42.000 And you talk to some of these Weatherby guys that are trying to get this Weatherby award.
00:55:47.000 They'd been there six, seven, eight times.
00:55:49.000 The guy before me had been there for 25 days straight and never saw a brocadeer.
00:55:53.000 That's a totally different focus part of the hunting community that is not very enjoyable, honestly, you know.
00:55:59.000 Yeah, I think the guys that go, you know, they're chasing like the tiny 10 in Africa.
00:56:03.000 They've spent 67 days, you know, in Uganda, in the jungles, like looking for, you know, a deer that's literally this big.
00:56:09.000 And I'm like, I don't know, man. That's how these brocadeers were.
00:56:13.000 Like, if you told like my in-laws, you know, I came back from this hunt and told them, like, what's a brocadeer?
00:56:17.000 I'm like, you know, they're expecting like this 400 pound, 200 inch deer.
00:56:21.000 I'm like, no, no, they're about, you know, Brittany size and a good one's got, you know, spikes on it this tall.
00:56:26.000 That's it. That's a brocadeer.
00:56:28.000 But it's all the cool things that happen on a trip like that that you won't get anywhere else if you don't pursue something like that.
00:56:37.000 You know, Scobie almost died on a dirt bike because they didn't bother to tighten down the axle screws.
00:56:44.000 On the front fork.
00:56:47.000 So like, you know, he got to see the jungle from a dirt bike for a week and got to see people setting up roadblocks because they couldn't get water in a Mexican city and they blocked every section of roadway.
00:57:00.000 So Scobie didn't even know if he was going to be able to get back to the airport on time.
00:57:04.000 And all these adventurous things that happened because he was hunting rocket deer and in this weird place.
00:57:12.000 I've tried to impart that into non-hungers or people that don't understand our lifestyle.
00:57:16.000 It's a gateway to adventure.
00:57:17.000 It's not the fact of killing a brocadeer.
00:57:21.000 It's the fact you were looking for a brocadeer or a tiny ten or whatever you were going for brought you to these really weird places in the world that if you were just a tourist, and I've done the tourist thing in Costa Rica, which we were...
00:57:30.000 Real close to Costa Rica slash Belize, Guatemala there.
00:57:34.000 And you would take a tour bus into a pretty much paved path and you'd walk through the jungle and you'd see parrots and you'd see monkeys and howler monkeys.
00:57:41.000 And then you'd come back to a five-star resort at night and have a phenomenal meal.
00:57:45.000 This is the antithesis of that.
00:57:46.000 You're staying with the locals in a cinderblock hut, getting bit up by bugs, riding on the back of horribly dangerous motorcycles or the backs of trucks that aren't roadworthy.
00:57:58.000 If you weren't doing something stupid, like looking for a broccoli dude, you would never subjugate yourself to this, whether that's Africa or Asia.
00:58:05.000 It's the excuse to put yourself in an uncomfortable position.
00:58:08.000 I mean, Jason, you had that with me last summer in Mongolia.
00:58:11.000 It was like, you travel for...
00:58:15.000 Yeah, 36 hours.
00:58:16.000 You land in Mongolia only to hop in a car and drive off-road.
00:58:21.000 Like, because there's not even roads.
00:58:22.000 It's like when one road gets worn out, they just move to the grass on the side of that for, you know, 27 hours.
00:58:28.000 And I put it in, you know, in one of the GPS apps and we're driving at night.
00:58:33.000 I'm like, how do they know where we're going? And I literally looked and we did a 100-mile off-road loop only to cross our path.
00:58:40.000 And I'm like... We just drove for four hours, 100 miles off-road.
00:58:46.000 We were here four hours ago, and now we're going.
00:58:50.000 I'm actually shocked we ever found our camp.
00:58:51.000 You and I were standing there at 3 o'clock in the morning.
00:58:55.000 Crossing a river. Laughing because we had just pushed a minivan out of a riverbed so that we could get across to the other side of the river.
00:59:03.000 We're standing there in knee-deep water.
00:59:06.000 Pushing a white minivan out of the mud, and we're just like, how the hell did we end up here?
00:59:10.000 You know, in the middle of nowhere Uganda.
00:59:14.000 But, man. That was Mongolia, but yeah.
00:59:17.000 That's what I meant, Mongolia.
00:59:18.000 Close enough. I know you were in Uganda before that, so yeah.
00:59:21.000 Yeah, so in Mongolia.
00:59:23.000 And then a few days later, we're watching a Mongolian cook a marmot over an open...
00:59:30.000 That was insane.
00:59:32.000 Like, this is like their turkey, like their national dish.
00:59:34.000 And, you know, I'll try anything.
00:59:37.000 It's a marmot. It's a large rodent.
00:59:38.000 They were able to shoot one.
00:59:40.000 And it's interesting. The only, like, law enforcement I saw in all of Mongolia was, like, every, like, couple hundred miles, you'd cross, like, a town where, like, when I say town, I mean, like, a stop at a gas station, maybe, or barely.
00:59:52.000 And they'd have, like, law enforcement checkpoints there.
00:59:54.000 And they're literally searching for contraband marmot.
00:59:58.000 Because it's like the national delicacy and they smuggle them into the cities, but they also carry the bubonic plague.
01:00:05.000 So every year, like people die from their national dish.
01:00:09.000 And so these guys got one and we're in camp.
01:00:11.000 We're, I mean, hundreds of miles from the nearest town in the middle of nowhere at 14,000 feet.
01:00:17.000 There's no tree line where, you know, they literally have to cook on horse shit because it's the only thing that that will burn that you can collect.
01:00:24.000 And they got one of these marmots, and it was like a celebration in camp, and they literally skin it, but they leave it whole, so it's almost like a muff.
01:00:32.000 And they get like a fire of horseshit going and they put hot rocks in the horseshit.
01:00:37.000 They take the meat out of the marmot while keeping the skin whole.
01:00:40.000 Then they sew back up any holes in the marmot skin.
01:00:44.000 And then they take hot rocks and the chopped up meat and stick it back into the marmot skin, sew it together, put it on the fire, singe off all the hair of the marmot and...
01:00:55.000 That is their, like, national dish.
01:00:57.000 So I'm going to go try it.
01:00:59.000 And our outfitter's like, no!
01:01:02.000 I mean, it was literally, like, it was going to cause a serious problem.
01:01:05.000 I had no problem trying it.
01:01:07.000 I was going to do it. And the guy's like, please don't, because if you die on this trip, like, my life's over.
01:01:11.000 I can't deal with this.
01:01:14.000 But, like, apparently that's a real problem.
01:01:17.000 And so... It was just fascinating to see that kind of culture that you wouldn't get going into the cities, and the cities are surprisingly urban in this.
01:01:24.000 So to actually see that culture, to spend time with true, legitimate, still 365-day-a-year nomads living in portable yurts following their sheep herd through the great Mongolian steeps, it's just absolutely incredible.
01:01:42.000 Scobie, will you make a note that Don and I are not allowed to go back to Mongolia after he just told that story?
01:01:48.000 I was already detained in the basement of the airport.
01:01:52.000 You had like one more round of ammo than you were allowed to have.
01:01:55.000 Yeah, for about an hour and a half.
01:01:58.000 So I know they don't take kindly to us goofing off in their country.
01:02:02.000 And now that that story is out there, I guess we just don't go back until we figure out the statute of limitations.
01:02:07.000 But The statute of limitation on contraband marmot.
01:02:11.000 For the record, we were not the ones that shot the marmot.
01:02:14.000 There's got to be a thing there.
01:02:16.000 Well, they were actually hunting them with golden eagles.
01:02:18.000 I mean, you're going to camp and there's like a golden eagle there.
01:02:20.000 I'm like, well, what's that? Well, that's like the camp gun.
01:02:23.000 I mean, that's the home of falconry.
01:02:25.000 They're not doing little baby falcons.
01:02:26.000 I mean... It's pretty amazing.
01:02:29.000 New York will try to bring you up on Marmot charges now?
01:02:31.000 They haven't tried that one. I mean, they've brought me up on every other charge, so why the hell not?
01:02:35.000 I mean, it's like, you know, sure.
01:02:38.000 You know, maybe they can get me for like a CITES violation for Marmot.
01:02:43.000 I mean, we didn't kill it.
01:02:46.000 They presented it to us as a gift.
01:02:48.000 So, I'm sure that's fine.
01:02:51.000 But, you know, last summer, you also took Donnie to Tanzania for Donnie's first safari.
01:03:01.000 Now, Donnie was with us in Mongolia.
01:03:03.000 He's been on a handful of hunts.
01:03:05.000 But, like, you're already... Taking your children to do these far out things and they're getting latched on to the adventure side of it.
01:03:14.000 I tell Donny, I was like, I want to come back as my son because like you're doing so much cool shit like that, you know, I didn't have anyone that was really 100 in my family.
01:03:22.000 I got sort of my grandfather, you know, who escaped from communist Czechoslovakia, you know, brought me over there in the summers and like, You know, taught me the basics and woodsmanship and time around a campfire.
01:03:32.000 That's where I learned to appreciate it at a really young age.
01:03:34.000 But, like, there was no hunting.
01:03:35.000 There was no this. And then my dad, you know, New York City was a golfer.
01:03:38.000 Like, I just had to take every opportunity I could.
01:03:40.000 So, like, Donnie's doing crap that, you know, I could not afford or even aspire to when I was his age.
01:03:47.000 Yeah. So, Scobie, I was – Scobie and I were on a call with Yamaha this week.
01:03:54.000 Yeah. And Yamaha, we're going to be working with Yamaha at Field Ethos.
01:03:57.000 We all love dirt bikes and off-roading.
01:04:00.000 And Scobie said, well, you know, Don's got some property that he needs a side-by-side for.
01:04:07.000 And Yamaha's, like, very safety-focused, right?
01:04:10.000 And they have to be. And for the record, when I'm on a dirt bike, I... I'm geared up.
01:04:17.000 But on a side-by-side, you know, that's more of like a beer drinking vehicle for me and Scoby.
01:04:22.000 And Scoby's like, Don needs a side-by-side.
01:04:24.000 And I was like, hold on, hold on.
01:04:26.000 Like, they just said that if we show side-by-sides, we need to have on helmets and safety equipment wearing the side-by-sides.
01:04:33.000 Yeah, I'm not going to lie, guys.
01:04:34.000 If I was wearing a helmet and a side-by-side, I'd have to cut off my own dick.
01:04:37.000 Well, I told the guy from Yamaha, who is awesome, by the way, I told Scott, I said, look, if you send Donna side-by-side, he is going to post videos of he and his five kids hanging off the sides of that thing while they're riding around, goofing off, and we're not going to be able to show any of it.
01:04:56.000 And so you're probably still getting a side-by-side, but we're going to kindly ask that you show none of that.
01:05:02.000 So, you know, your sense of self-preservation, and at least Donny's by this point, is non-existent.
01:05:08.000 Highly underdeveloped sense of self-preservation.
01:05:10.000 But, you know, Donnie's getting into the moto stuff, so it's perfect.
01:05:13.000 I used to do a lot of that growing up.
01:05:15.000 I think that, you know, that was awesome.
01:05:17.000 It's sort of become something we're actually doing with the journal.
01:05:20.000 So now, you know, we got the places to ride and some, you know, awesome guys down here that are, you know, frankly, far better than will ever be.
01:05:27.000 So it's always great to ride with people who are better because you actually...
01:05:30.000 You'll learn and improve.
01:05:31.000 So he's super excited about that.
01:05:34.000 Yeah, it's going to be awesome. There's a reason why we have a safety third hat, and that's because of Don.
01:05:39.000 You know, it's literally the field either.
01:05:40.000 Safety third. It's important, but it's probably not number one.
01:05:44.000 Rule number one, look cool.
01:05:47.000 Rule number two, have fun.
01:05:49.000 Rule number three, be safe.
01:05:51.000 So, you know, that's safe-ish.
01:05:55.000 But Scobie's going to do our helmet side-by-side content in Montana with a beer helmet.
01:06:02.000 And we'll be able to check that box off.
01:06:05.000 It counts as a helmet. I'm sure, I'm sure they're all, well, by the way, speaking of advertisers, that's sort of a funny one.
01:06:11.000 Like we have had these stuff where it's like, you know, the guys that actually know what they're doing with certain brands, like call us and they're like, Hey guys, like we love what you did, but like people on our board who know nothing about what you're actually doing, they're not exactly thrilled.
01:06:26.000 So we're going to send you a letter, uh, But we don't actually want you to change anything.
01:06:31.000 It's just the note to file that we actually did something about it for either insurance reasons or otherwise.
01:06:36.000 But we want you to change absolutely nothing with what you're doing, even if it's grossly inappropriate.
01:06:41.000 We're on constant probation with our partnerships.
01:06:46.000 Those poor bastards.
01:06:47.000 They open up the magazine or the Sunday Stories or Instagram.
01:06:51.000 They've got to be like... What's coming next?
01:06:54.000 But the thing is that they all know SCOBY and like they knew anytime they do something with SCOBY that the envelope is going to be pushed.
01:07:04.000 It's just now it's actually endorsed and condoned.
01:07:08.000 We're putting the content out there.
01:07:10.000 You know, in all seriousness, I'm just thinking, I've got good moto helmets, you know, good.3 helmets.
01:07:15.000 I think I could epoxy our Field Ethos koozies on either side of them and rig a siphon system, and that should count as a helmet.
01:07:23.000 That should. You know, hard hat helmets, but a real helmet with, you know, drink holders on the side.
01:07:28.000 That's a perfect summer project for you.
01:07:30.000 For you and the kids. Listen, if you're on private land or something like that, I don't know that there's any rules governing those things.
01:07:37.000 So, you know...
01:07:39.000 I imagine they have not covered that in the fine print, although these days maybe the fine print covers everything.
01:07:42.000 I don't know. We need to make a plan to get Ron.
01:07:45.000 I mean, Yamaha is probably the biggest corporate group we've worked with, so we need to get Ron Dan in some of this content.
01:07:52.000 We need to have the minority box checked off.
01:07:55.000 Yeah, but just for you guys know, Ron Dan, also known as The Ron Dan, is our Director of Diversity and Inclusion.
01:08:03.000 Actually, right now he's our sensei.
01:08:06.000 Sensei. Okay, because it went from director of diversity and inclusion to czar of diversity and inclusion to sultan of diversity and inclusion.
01:08:15.000 And he's the only one also with a picture in the masthead so that we get full credit for actually taking diversity and inclusion quite seriously.
01:08:23.000 Yeah, so we put, you know, Ron's black, so we put him out front and center, obviously.
01:08:27.000 By the way, today is Brett Voorhees' birthday.
01:08:29.000 He's our other black friend.
01:08:32.000 Like what, like 3%?
01:08:33.000 I'm not, yeah, I'm not sure if you know that, Don, but he did an Ancestry.com thing, and he's like.0003% African American.
01:08:44.000 Hey, by today's, 2024 sounds legit.
01:08:46.000 He identifies. Send him a culturally proper birthday greeting today.
01:08:54.000 I will do that. We have built a cast of characters for Field Ethos.
01:09:03.000 We end up becoming friends with Our sponsors and the people we work with and our writers.
01:09:11.000 Even the companies that probably have us on probation, when they get out there and hunt with us, they're like, man, this is a lot of fun.
01:09:20.000 The message is a bit controversial because it's different.
01:09:26.000 Not because we're doing anything wrong, but because it's just different.
01:09:29.000 But it's attracting people, though, because, like, you know, I always talk about, you know, when we do the trade show parties, like, we'll literally take, like, a suite at a hotel.
01:09:36.000 Like, you know, there's these guys that, and some of them are advertising, you know, they're spending, you know, $2 million on their shot show party in Vegas, and it's like, we literally were there being like, holy shit, we're out of natural light.
01:09:46.000 Like, we gotta do a beer run to 7-Eleven, because it was, like, literally...
01:09:50.000 An iPhone hooked up to a speaker and natural light beer.
01:09:55.000 It was basically a low-budget, like, college fraternity party, and yet, like, you had, like, senators and congressmen and some of the biggest guys in outdoors, and you had MMA fighters, and, like, I guess the guitars for, like, Nirvana and Soundgarden, like, these people from, you know, Dan Henderson, a couple of MMA fighters and MLB players, like, literally by far the coolest and most eclectic group ever In all of Las Vegas during SHOT Show, which is a lot of people, literally end up in a small hotel suite drinking natural light.
01:10:31.000 And it wasn't like they showed up and were disappointed and left in five minutes because there was no entertainment or anything really going on.
01:10:36.000 They stayed till 5.30 in the morning because it was that much fun.
01:10:40.000 There's a difference between just putting on a show, spending arbitrary money, and just hanging out with badass people doing cool shit.
01:10:49.000 And if you're lucky, you get Scobie's invite for the next morning where Scobie will pay for you to have a full IV and an IV cart that you can roll around in the suite with Scobie.
01:11:00.000 That's always a fun after-party event.
01:11:02.000 Brings you right back to speed.
01:11:03.000 But if you recall that Natty Beer light run, we commanded the 60-year-old, I don't know how he's 60, 59, 60, CEO of a major sponsor to go on the beer run for us.
01:11:16.000 Hey, you want to be invited back?
01:11:18.000 Go get some beer.
01:11:20.000 For the record, I went with him as his underling to carry beer.
01:11:25.000 He pretty much just smoked cigarettes and made sure we got to the beer store in the right place of Las Vegas.
01:11:31.000 But, you know, what we do that's different is we underproduce everything.
01:11:39.000 And it makes it, it gives you that authentic feel.
01:11:43.000 A lot of our content, especially the video side, like when Scobie was in Mexico, he was able to send me videos that he was just taking on his iPhone.
01:11:52.000 And so it's not that overproduced, you know, refined hunting look that everybody is putting out there these days.
01:12:01.000 It's more of like, all right, you're looking at this through our lens.
01:12:05.000 Our parties reflect that as well.
01:12:06.000 You know, It's real.
01:12:09.000 I mean, but that's the reality.
01:12:11.000 I mean, in this world where everything's like, you know, keeping up with the Joneses and, you know, it's, you know, you look at people's lives on Instagram and then you actually know them and you're like, ah, these two things are not the same.
01:12:20.000 Like, ours kind of are because they're low budget across the board.
01:12:25.000 I got to our Dallas Safari Club party this year, and I walk in, and Scobie's already in there with a bunch of people who are having a good time, and we've got a bar set up with really good bourbon.
01:12:35.000 We've got chicken cock bourbon up there, and we've got Lazy K bourbon and some other really good whiskeys and liquor sitting in a stocked bar.
01:12:41.000 And I said, and after my behavior at the Dallas Safari Club before that, I stopped drinking liquor altogether.
01:12:48.000 So I walked up to Scobie, and I said, Scobie, where's the beer?
01:12:52.000 And he goes... Oh, just go into one of the bathrooms and the sinks are full of ice and beer.
01:12:58.000 So our party guests, some of these CEOs of big corporations, when they wanted a beer, they had to go into the bathroom and dig a beer out of the sink.
01:13:06.000 And they love that, you know, because it kind of reminds them of what they were doing before they became the CEO of a big company.
01:13:15.000 They were... They were just hanging out with the guys, and so that's kind of how we throw our parties, and it just works.
01:13:21.000 This is not ever part of our background.
01:13:25.000 It's very lowbrow, but fun.
01:13:28.000 Yeah, I mean, part of what we've got to keep doing as a company, and we have...
01:13:39.000 We walk a fine line, and Scobie and I, he's had to have several talking to's with me about the fine line of, okay, like, We can do these things, but we have to also be conscious that we are representing other companies and representing the people that work with us and support us.
01:14:02.000 So we figured out a way to do all of that with still being very honest with how we operate.
01:14:08.000 You had a couple talking to's with me as well, Don.
01:14:11.000 I think it was, what was it, DSC last year?
01:14:15.000 Yep. You may or may not have gotten punched at the bar.
01:14:19.000 And the excuse was, you were defending the honor of some gay guy at the bar.
01:14:22.000 What was really great about the story is that's not even remotely accurate.
01:14:25.000 We actually ran into the guy this year.
01:14:26.000 He's like, well, I'm the gay guy that Jason thought he was defending.
01:14:29.000 And he's like, I'm married with two kids and not even remotely gay.
01:14:32.000 So the excuse you came up with was kind of woke and whatever.
01:14:36.000 But I see you the next morning with a black guy.
01:14:38.000 And I'm like, you're like, yeah, I'm going home.
01:14:40.000 I'm like, well, you know, it is day one of why we're here.
01:14:43.000 So like, it's great that you're going home.
01:14:46.000 There may be a time and a place.
01:14:49.000 First of all, it was day three.
01:14:51.000 No, it was not day three!
01:14:54.000 I had been drinking chicken cock bourbon non-stop since I showed up because we were trying to represent chicken cock bourbon and introduce it to the masses.
01:15:06.000 So every time I introduced it to somebody, I poured myself one.
01:15:11.000 And by the time I get to the Circle Bar, there's this...
01:15:16.000 It's kind of a funny story, and we figured it out this year.
01:15:19.000 So there's this guy from Namibia picking on this little guy, just really running him down at the bar.
01:15:23.000 And I was like, dude, why don't you leave the guy the fuck alone?
01:15:28.000 And he said something to me, and I turned, and I get hit.
01:15:33.000 And he was calling this little guy a very, you know, something you don't say, a name for gay people.
01:15:42.000 You just don't say. And he was calling the guy that.
01:15:44.000 And I was like, you know, leave the guy the fuck alone.
01:15:46.000 And when I turned, I got hit.
01:15:49.000 And I stumbled backwards and I looked around and I saw this guy running away.
01:15:54.000 And so I was like, whatever.
01:15:56.000 Walked back out, saw Scobie.
01:15:58.000 My eyebrows split open.
01:16:01.000 We need to add it into the show.
01:16:03.000 By the way, get us the photo.
01:16:05.000 We'll place it in.
01:16:07.000 So I told Scooby, I said, he was like, what happened to you?
01:16:10.000 And I said, some Namibian guy just was being a dick to this kid at the bar.
01:16:16.000 And then he punched me in the face and took off.
01:16:19.000 So that was my version of what happened.
01:16:22.000 Those guys came to us this year at Dallas Safari Club, like moments after we get thrown out for serving booze, I guess without a license, at the Field Ethos tent there.
01:16:32.000 So there's a recurring theme here, folks.
01:16:35.000 And those guys are like, hey man, I'm really sorry.
01:16:37.000 I'm the dude that punched Jason.
01:16:38.000 I didn't realize he was actually standing up for my friend, not the other way around.
01:16:43.000 I'm like, what? What just happened?
01:16:45.000 So he shows up with a bottle of Johnny Walker Black Label and comes up to me and he's like, I brought you a gift.
01:16:52.000 I'm like, hey, nice to meet you.
01:16:56.000 And he was like, I'm the one that hit you last year.
01:16:59.000 And I was like... Really?
01:17:01.000 You're not Namibian?
01:17:02.000 And he goes, no.
01:17:05.000 Not even close.
01:17:06.000 I'm from like, you know, Michigan.
01:17:07.000 He said the Namibian guy was the one being a jerk to my friend.
01:17:11.000 You said something to the Namibian guy.
01:17:13.000 I thought you were the one being a jerk to my friend.
01:17:16.000 So I punched you in the face and I took off.
01:17:17.000 And I'm really sorry.
01:17:19.000 And he's like...
01:17:20.000 I just brought you this gift to smooth it over.
01:17:23.000 And I said, well, there's just nothing to smooth it over.
01:17:25.000 Like, I thought it was really funny.
01:17:26.000 Even funnier now that I had a completely incorrect nationality of and mis...
01:17:32.000 Insights.
01:17:33.000 And when I heard the story first, the guy was 6'8", 6'9", 280.
01:17:37.000 He's 5'10".
01:17:38.000 Yeah, he was significantly smaller than me.
01:17:41.000 He's 5'10 with platforms on.
01:17:44.000 So I still have a bone to pick with a Namibian, but the guy that hit me, no, we're good.
01:17:50.000 But yeah, so our behavior, my behavior has certainly taken a different direction after the next morning you called me and you said, hey, is everything okay with you?
01:18:01.000 Are you an alcoholic?
01:18:02.000 I was like, are you okay?
01:18:04.000 And I was like, dude, I'm good.
01:18:05.000 I'm good. And here's the thing.
01:18:09.000 I only party like that when I'm with you guys and we go on these trips.
01:18:14.000 And I'm like, my friends are here.
01:18:16.000 The family's 500 miles away.
01:18:18.000 It's time to cut loose.
01:18:21.000 That was like the year before it shot when Kim was pretty convinced that she could take Christian Craighead.
01:18:26.000 Yeah. Yep.
01:18:28.000 That was pretty fun. Just so you guys know, Christian Craighead is...
01:18:31.000 Remember when, like, toxic masculinity was, like, a big deal?
01:18:34.000 And you had the British SAS guy, like, that's, like, their Delta Force, who went into a school in Nairobi, Kenya, with either an AK or an AR, and, like, it was taken over by Boko Haram, and he went in there and killed, like, 30 bad guys, and then they tried to make him as, like, a bad guy because he literally saved the lives of all these schoolchildren, but, like, broke protocol by, like...
01:18:54.000 Just acting and doing the right thing at the right time.
01:18:57.000 So Kim was pretty sure that she could take Christian Craighead and that ended up in an interesting wrestling match at the party.
01:19:04.000 That's because Kim likes to party.
01:19:06.000 Kim parties. And Kim keeps it pretty buttoned up until it's time to have a good time and then she turns into one of the guys and can absolutely hang.
01:19:17.000 I think that may have actually been one of the greatest fights Christian's ever been in.
01:19:20.000 I think he was greatly enjoying it at the time.
01:19:22.000 That's become a theme of the DSC parties.
01:19:24.000 When it finally winds down and nobody wants to go home, two years now it's turned into a wrestling, a physical wrestling match.
01:19:31.000 Well, you got banged up pretty badly wrestling Brett this year.
01:19:34.000 It was like five in the morning.
01:19:37.000 Brett Voorhees, who's the CEO of Taurus, is...
01:19:41.000 I don't know, 6'3", 250, and was an NCAA Division I, like, world-class wrestler.
01:19:47.000 And Mike was convinced at 5 in the morning that he could take him.
01:19:51.000 And, you know, you put on a good show for a little while, and then not so good.
01:19:55.000 If I had slipped with dress shoes, I think it would have been even better.
01:19:58.000 Mike was a college boxer, but he wasn't allowed to punch Brett in the face.
01:20:02.000 But Brett Voorhees, let's also backtrack a little bit.
01:20:05.000 This is the same CEO that almost got in a fight with Kid Rock at a Christmas party.
01:20:11.000 Not because anybody's a bad guy, but because we over-partied a bit.
01:20:17.000 Yeah, that was the year before.
01:20:19.000 That was my Christmas party the year before.
01:20:21.000 It's like, let's call it 500 of Kim's friends, like 20 of mine, and of course...
01:20:27.000 Mine are the ones actually causing trouble.
01:20:30.000 And Bob's a buddy of mine, Kid Rock.
01:20:32.000 He comes over, and people are annoying him with selfies, and it's driving him nuts.
01:20:36.000 And I get, rightfully so, he's like, hey, dude, really appreciate it.
01:20:39.000 We're doing a thing for Toys for Tots, for charity, literally four boatloads of toys for kids in need.
01:20:44.000 And I was like, hey, man.
01:20:45.000 I basically put Mike in charge of, hey, go get shots.
01:20:51.000 Let's show him a good time.
01:20:52.000 We got him...
01:20:54.000 He's basically drunk enough that he hung around and he threw the DJ out of the DJ booth, took over the DJ booth, and then put on a two-hour piano performance.
01:21:03.000 One of my neighbors, an elderly woman, is a Juilliard-trained pianist.
01:21:09.000 And she was like, oh my god, he's incredible, because it's not like this boy band marketing shit.
01:21:13.000 There's a reason he's been around for 30 years.
01:21:15.000 It's like, he's actually a talent.
01:21:17.000 And it was pretty amazing.
01:21:18.000 But yeah, I'm like, hey, Brett, please don't fight...
01:21:22.000 Kid Rock at my party.
01:21:23.000 I don't need this shit. That's just the random stuff that happens when we all get together.
01:21:30.000 Yeah. That wrestling match last year at DSC, that turned into a chicken cock, you know, match or a cockfighter match where I got beat by him.
01:21:38.000 So he stayed up kind of in a round robin scenario.
01:21:40.000 And we were all betting, I don't know, hundreds of dollars, just throwing cash into a ring, watching dudes wrestle.
01:21:47.000 No, but wait, but didn't Joe beat him?
01:21:50.000 So, no. Joe got beat, too.
01:21:52.000 He beat about eight guys, and then there was some little Alaskan guy.
01:21:55.000 He was like the last man standing.
01:21:56.000 He goes, I'll wrestle you.
01:21:58.000 And Brett goes, you ever wrestled before?
01:21:59.000 He goes, nope. Takes his jacket off and pinned Brett in about 14 seconds.
01:22:03.000 He's a sheep guide out of Alaska, we find out.
01:22:05.000 Now, he did have a pretty deep resume in jiu-jitsu, but not wrestling.
01:22:11.000 Scobie actually fought and won against a Maasai chief in Africa.
01:22:17.000 Did you not? Yes, I did.
01:22:18.000 Yeah, for $5. I risked cuts all over me from the brush and the thorns, and I... You know, the Masai is as good as needed people as they are.
01:22:27.000 They have about a 50% AIDS rate, I think.
01:22:29.000 And I thought it was a good idea to wrestle around with one in the sand for $5.
01:22:34.000 But I did get our $5 back.
01:22:36.000 Safety third. I mean, you know, what could go wrong?
01:22:39.000 Seems like a small price to pay for $5 because $5 is $5.
01:22:43.000 And, you know, it's not easy to make $5 in Bidenomics.
01:22:45.000 So, Scobie wrestled a Maasai warrior and got thrown in jail at an African border checkpoint.
01:22:51.000 And he's taught brass at field ethos, so that's kind of...
01:22:57.000 Thrown in two African jails.
01:22:58.000 Well, you got thrown in jail at a checkpoint in Africa?
01:23:00.000 Like, I mean, you know how many times I've bribed my way across the border there?
01:23:03.000 I'm not allowed to say that now, obviously, because of our immigration policies.
01:23:06.000 But, like, back in the day before immigration was a thing, like, I've been held at gunpoint at the border of Zimbabwe, like, at least three times.
01:23:13.000 No, I got actually arrested and thrown in jail in South Africa one time.
01:23:16.000 That was legitimate. The other one, I was driving through Botswana.
01:23:18.000 And as you know, you get to those border posts in the middle of the night by myself, and they close them down at like 10 o'clock at night, you know?
01:23:24.000 And so I'm just sleeping in the Land Rover.
01:23:26.000 No blankets, no sweatshirt, nothing.
01:23:28.000 Freezing. As you know, it gets down to 28, 29 degrees.
01:23:32.000 I'm shivering and all of a sudden there's a little knock on my window and I roll it down and there's a little short bushman border crossing guy sitting there.
01:23:38.000 He's like, are you spending the night? I go, yeah, until it opens at 6 in the morning.
01:23:41.000 He goes, do you want to sleep inside?
01:23:42.000 I go, yeah. And I figured it had like...
01:23:45.000 You know, bunk accommodations for workers or something.
01:23:48.000 No, no. All they had was a jail cell.
01:23:50.000 And so he walks me into the jail cell with like my blanket and pillow and it's a metal cot hanging off the wall.
01:23:54.000 Nobody else was in there. Puts me in and he closes the room behind me and latches it.
01:23:59.000 And I went, huh, that's kind of strange.
01:24:01.000 She just got locked into a jail in Botswana.
01:24:03.000 And he goes, what time do you want to get up?
01:24:05.000 I go, oh, six o'clock in the morning.
01:24:07.000 I hear it like 5.45, him coming down the aisle with a tray with a tea service on and a coffee service and a full breakfast ready to go.
01:24:16.000 And he wakes me up and gives me breakfast and I was on my way.
01:24:18.000 It was one of the cooler experiences I had.
01:24:20.000 And kind of like I was saying, if you weren't out hunting in these places, that's the kind of thing you would never run into.
01:24:26.000 Yeah. Well, Jason, you know...
01:24:29.000 We're going to have to do this again and tell some more, just go full story hour, but you can find all this stuff at Field Ethers.
01:24:35.000 Jason, why don't you let everyone know where they can find it, how they can subscribe, how they can look us up online, etc., etc.
01:24:43.000 So if people are looking to hear more of this kind of stuff, it's out there and available.
01:24:47.000 Yep. So fieldethos.com.
01:24:50.000 We have a lot of articles, videos, you know, content on fieldethos.com.
01:24:56.000 We also have an online store where we sell lifestyle products.
01:24:59.000 I'm wearing one of our shirts right now.
01:25:01.000 The safety third hat. Safety third hat.
01:25:04.000 This Zenith shirt, it's like a warm weather long sleeve button up.
01:25:10.000 It's got a bunch of micro holes in it so the wind will blow through it actually.
01:25:13.000 We sell our own footwear there.
01:25:16.000 We have a rabid following on Instagram.
01:25:19.000 It's at Field Ethos.
01:25:20.000 We also have Field Ethos Waterman, which is more of like...
01:25:25.000 Spear fishing, saltwater fishing, a lot of that lifestyle that you live in Florida, by the way, we need to come down and get on your boat soon and go fishing.
01:25:35.000 Let's go. We need a Bahamas trip.
01:25:37.000 We haven't done that in a year, so we got to get over there and go.
01:25:40.000 Go to Walker's again or something.
01:25:41.000 Yeah, so FieldEthos.com.
01:25:43.000 We also have FieldEthos Outrider where you can book a trip to go with us into the field on a hunting trip or a spearfishing trip or whatever we're up to.
01:25:51.000 You can come along with us by booking through there.
01:25:53.000 Or, by the way, just the guys that we've hunted with and sort of verify are good.
01:25:57.000 So that's everything from the most extreme sort of sheep-type adventure or Africa adventure to your first hunt or waterfowl or fishing.
01:26:06.000 So a little bit of everything at FieldEthos Outrider.
01:26:08.000 We have fielded a lot of people on their first hunt or their first international adventure.
01:26:13.000 We've put those guys in the field through that area of our company.
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01:26:40.000 So yeah, we've got several ways people can show up and support the brand.
01:26:44.000 Sign up for the email list as well, just at fieldethos.com, right?
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