Triggered - Donald Trump Jr - We Have a Country to Save: Vivek Ramaswamy on Doing What's Right for America | TRIGGERED Ep.102

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00:05:27.000 hey guys welcome to another huge episode of triggered

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00:05:56.000 I'm actually really looking forward to having this conversation.

00:05:59.000 I know we've sort of discussed this a bunch on the show, but we have Vivek Ramaswamy.

00:06:04.000 He ran an, you know, sort of out of nowhere campaign and a strong race that I think really surpassed most expectations for people out there.

00:06:12.000 there. So much of the stuff we've talked about on the show is like, hey, you know, I really

00:06:17.000 like what we're saying, but where's the history? Where was the past? And so you guys have been

00:06:21.000 asking a lot of questions about him. So I want to give him the chance to answer all

00:06:26.000 of those. But like I said, I think he exceeded most people's expectations, you know, winning

00:06:30.000 almost 8 percent, having never done that before. It was really interesting. And I think he

00:06:34.000 was saying a lot of the right things. And he's bringing in really a lot of fresh energy,

00:06:39.000 first time voters into the America first movement. I think he was also way ahead of the curve

00:06:45.000 on things like D.I. I know one of the questions we asked is, I hate you. Do you trust him 0.78

00:06:51.000 Where'd he go? I didn't know where he was in 16, politically, all these things, but he was out there combating a lot of the nonsense in corporate America.

00:07:01.000 I mean his book woke Inc. You know was out you know four or five years ago

00:07:06.000 So so he got that which I think you know certainly lends a lot of credibility to everything that he's been saying so

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00:10:39.000 star, someone who handled the media very well, threw their crap back in their face.

00:10:44.000 So with that, joining us now, Vivek Ramaswamy. 0.96

00:10:50.000 How's it going, buddy? How you doing, man?

00:10:53.000 I'm doing great. I'm doing great.

00:10:54.000 I mean, it's been an interesting week.

00:10:56.000 I think you actually did some amazing stuff.

00:11:01.000 I mean, coming out of sort of nowhere from the political spectrum, taking 8% in Iowa...

00:11:06.000 You know, understanding that, you know, given everything that was going on, that was the path for America first was then to endorse Donald Trump.

00:11:14.000 But I think you brought a lot of new energy, energy to the game, really, which was kind of awesome.

00:11:19.000 Tell me what you felt, what it was like for you doing all that.

00:11:23.000 Thank you, man. I appreciate it.

00:11:25.000 You know, I'm still processing a lot of it.

00:11:27.000 I'm proud of what we accomplished.

00:11:29.000 Actually, the funniest part is if you look at second choice, you know, to your father, who people have voted for actually would have been, you know, it was a very different story, but I think it's the right person carrying this forward from here.

00:11:41.000 The people have spoken, and so I'm at peace with that.

00:11:45.000 For me, it was really different.

00:11:46.000 I mean, in my background, you and I haven't really spoken at any length before, but my background is from a very different world than this world of politics.

00:11:55.000 Me too. Yes, it makes a couple of us.

00:11:58.000 I've started a number of different companies.

00:12:01.000 Most of them have gone on to be successful.

00:12:04.000 I have raised two sons with my wife, Aporva, here in Ohio.

00:12:08.000 We were living our merry life.

00:12:10.000 She's a surgeon at Ohio State.

00:12:13.000 And, you know, I think that I felt called about a year and a half ago, a little less

00:12:17.000 than a year and a half ago, last December before last year, to step up and do my part

00:12:23.000 to revive this country.

00:12:24.000 And I saw that red wave that never came.

00:12:27.000 I felt like this party was lacking of vision and that you had a lot of people who for a

00:12:31.000 long time had been pointing to the other side and making a, you know, making clever trolling

00:12:38.000 was I think part of what we had become as a party rather than offering an alternative

00:12:42.000 vision of our own.

00:12:44.000 And I felt like I had a vision to offer.

00:12:45.000 I had stepped down from my job as a biotech CEO years before.

00:12:49.000 I wrote several books, and you guys, you'll know this well, too, from your experience, I'm sure.

00:12:54.000 The process of writing forces you to really examine who you are and what your beliefs are, actually.

00:13:01.000 Like, not just what you say as a quip, but what do you actually believe?

00:13:05.000 I wrote three books in those two years.

00:13:09.000 As I often say, I still believe about 95% of what's in the first one.

00:13:13.000 You evolve your own thoughts over those years, especially when you've been steeped in the world of business but have opened your eyes to You know, BLM, for example, after the George Floyd deaths, there was a demand that I make a statement as a biotech CEO, which I refused to do.

00:13:28.000 And that set me on this new trajectory that ultimately landed in this presidential race that I'm still, frankly, you know, it was a whirlwind.

00:13:36.000 We didn't expect I did not expect necessarily to be getting out that night, but when the results came in, I felt I make my most important decisions I make instinctually.

00:13:45.000 And my instinct that night was that that was the right decision.

00:13:48.000 And I'm proud of looking back at the last year of what we accomplished in the meantime.

00:13:52.000 Yeah, so a lot of the commentary I've gotten, as I told you when we spoke the other day, I was like, hey, listen, I like a lot of what he's saying.

00:13:59.000 I love a lot of how he handles the media, that he throws back the facts.

00:14:03.000 He's not afraid. So many on our party, we kowtow around reality because they don't want to hear it, but it doesn't mean it's not the truth.

00:14:11.000 I think maybe, you know, we come from a similar background.

00:14:14.000 You know, I wasn't biotech, but I was a real estate guy.

00:14:16.000 So I came from business and I got sort of thrust into politics.

00:14:20.000 You know, started writing the books that, you're right, it is a great way of sort of reflecting on what's going on and the stories from the trail and meeting, you know, real Americans who are affected by these disastrous policies, not just from the left or those in charge, but also, again, from sort of the weak people on the right.

00:14:38.000 You know, So, you know, I get where you're coming from on some of these things.

00:14:42.000 And again, for us, it would have been much easier in life to just be politically agnostic or support the Democrats.

00:14:48.000 There's no consequence to that.

00:14:50.000 But you did start seeing it in business.

00:14:52.000 You wrote a book a couple years ago with Woke Inc.

00:14:55.000 You started seeing how it was infecting business.

00:14:58.000 You probably experienced that as a CEO, certainly in biotech.

00:15:01.000 That's, you know, definitely... Oh, yeah.

00:15:03.000 Let's just say not just left-leaning, but left, like, falling over already.

00:15:07.000 You know, how did that evolution get you to start, you know, writing about it, calling it out?

00:15:12.000 Because, again, like there's a consequence of being a vocal conservative in business, calling out even just the wokeness within corporate America started doing that.

00:15:21.000 And did that change a lot of your views, you know, as it related to politics beyond just sort of the woke virus situation?

00:15:28.000 It did. Yeah, that was sort of where I started my entry ramp into this world that we're in.

00:15:34.000 So I had, you know, overseen the development of a number of medicines.

00:15:37.000 Five of them are FDA approved products today.

00:15:39.000 We could have developed every one of them, by the way, for a tiny fraction of the cost if the FDA had not been as onerous because of pharma lobbying.

00:15:47.000 But that's a story for another day.

00:15:49.000 But anyway, I was overseeing the development of medicines.

00:15:51.000 One of them is a life-saving therapy in kids.

00:15:54.000 One day, George Floyd dies, and then suddenly there's a demand that every CEO, tech CEO, biotech CEO, etc., make a statement on behalf of BLM, make some donations, and I refused to do it.

00:16:05.000 And there was a, turns out, tremendous...

00:16:08.000 Social and even business cost associated with that.

00:16:11.000 Number of advisors to the company resigned.

00:16:13.000 And I said, you know what? I've got a choice to face.

00:16:15.000 I've built a multi-billion dollar company from scratch.

00:16:18.000 Thankfully, the company, it would have been a lot tougher, Don, if it were at a place where, say it were even four or five years into the journey where the company could not have stood on its own feet without me.

00:16:27.000 But this was seven years in.

00:16:29.000 The company is a multi-billion dollar business.

00:16:31.000 I have a successor lined up, you know, just the year before the company had achieved some major milestones that allowed this to stand on its own feet.

00:16:38.000 And I could either stay here and continue to speak my convictions, which to be clear, my convictions were at minimum, the fact that businesses should not be wading into these political issues, which itself back in 2020 was an unacceptable thing to say.

00:16:52.000 Keep in mind, things have moved even a little bit in the last three, four years.

00:16:55.000 But back when I'm talking about this in 2020, This was an unacceptable viewpoint to hold.

00:17:02.000 And so yes, challenging that orthodoxy, saying that in my personal views, I couldn't fathom what BLM was standing for.

00:17:07.000 But regardless of what my personal views were, I don't think that this was a job of a biotech CEO to be weighing into complex issues of race and conflict in America.

00:17:17.000 I ended up having to face a choice.

00:17:18.000 Either I could bend the knee and do what every other tech CEO was doing, most of whom didn't mean it, by the way.

00:17:23.000 It's not like a lot of these people at the top of these food chains are lefties.

00:17:27.000 100%. They could care less, actually.

00:17:29.000 And so for me, it would have been the easy thing to do to say, all right, I don't really believe this stuff, but let's just check the box and move on, versus asking the question of what's the point of accumulating all this money and achieving the American dream if you can't even speak your own mind freely.

00:17:43.000 And so I ended up stepping aside from my job as a biotech CEO, put the CFO in the CEO role.

00:17:48.000 And so I'm going to speak openly about this.

00:17:51.000 And that led me to write Woke Inc.

00:17:53.000 And that led to the next book, led to the next book after that.

00:17:57.000 I started a company, by the way, which you might be familiar with, Don.

00:18:01.000 I don't know. Are you familiar with Strive, actually?

00:18:03.000 Yeah, I am. So I started Strive, in part, That's what I thought I was going to do.

00:18:09.000 I wasn't going to be an author for the long run.

00:18:11.000 I'm an entrepreneur at heart. But it took a couple of years to locate where my convictions and passions were.

00:18:17.000 And then I thought I landed on my destination, which was driving change through the market.

00:18:21.000 And so I started this company called Strive to compete with BlackRock and State Street and Vanguard.

00:18:28.000 They were sort of the invisible hand guiding a lot of companies, including biotech companies and tech companies, to behave the way they are.

00:18:35.000 You'll be familiar with this. I assume your audience will have some familiarity with it as well, of using retirement money, so pension funds, 401k accounts.

00:18:44.000 Probably most of the money of people who are watching us speak right now don't know that their money is indirectly being managed by one of these firms, BlackRock, State Street, Vanguard, Invesco, others like them.

00:18:54.000 Pushing that DEI agenda and all the other nonsense.

00:18:57.000 I mean, yeah. Exactly.

00:18:59.000 And so I've studied this probably in greater depth than you want to go, but we could go into depth of the real problem isn't that they're necessarily buying shares in the woke companies, but not the non-woke ones.

00:19:11.000 It's that they're buying shares in all of the companies through index funds, which just own the stock market, which is what goes in a retirement fund portfolio or in an investment account.

00:19:20.000 But they vote your shares in corporate America's boardrooms for the DEI policies that result in disastrous outcomes from companies from Coca-Cola to Anheuser-Busch to Boeing.

00:19:30.000 And so what I came up with was an alternative company that would offer the same kinds of index funds to own all the companies, woke or not, doesn't matter.

00:19:41.000 It's an index fund. Vote for the policies that demand that those companies focus exclusively on profit and exclusively on making their products and services for their customers rather than on these left-wing social agendas.

00:19:56.000 There's no way they're actually...

00:19:59.000 Acting as fiduciaries.

00:20:01.000 And I mean, it's something I've thought about is why don't more shareholders, even small shareholders at Disney and these other companies, actually sue knowing that the decisions are not actually maximizing sort of their profitability, you know, their fiduciary responsibility in there.

00:20:15.000 You know, similar to you, you did it from a fund level.

00:20:18.000 I've sort of invested on the individual company level where I can help promote and get these companies going as an early investor.

00:20:25.000 Early guy and, you know, Public Square and some of the sponsors that I, you know, I'll actually invest in these companies myself because I believe in that message.

00:20:33.000 And, you know, we talk about voting with our dollars because if you cut off those funds, when it's one guy going out there politically, hey, they wait them out, they take them out, they spend God knows how much money against them.

00:20:44.000 Even if the policies would be better for the companies, they're still voting for the Democrats and pushing money that way.

00:20:50.000 It's like watching the United Auto Workers Union, you know, No, we want to get electric vehicles, but we're going to have them sent to China with batteries made in China and send your job and your American dream to China and everything.

00:21:02.000 And everyone's like, yay, we get to pay dues to end our existence.

00:21:08.000 And it makes no sense to me.

00:21:10.000 And yet it goes on daily.

00:21:12.000 So let's just double click into this then, because I think that this actually is worth delving into the plumbing of this a little bit.

00:21:21.000 Mm-hmm. So, I mean, the funny thing about running for office, I mean, the questions you'll get.

00:21:26.000 So then people will say, oh, well, but you started Strive, and Strive owns shares in some of those woke companies.

00:21:33.000 Is that, Vivek, really, the things you'll hear in a campaign, man.

00:21:37.000 Oh, yeah, trust me. It's eye-opening. That's a whole separate, we could have this discussion.

00:21:42.000 And people should be skeptical, but people who have the right emotions need to understand how they're actually being duped to understand what the heck is going on.

00:21:52.000 So while it's cool to have new companies in the new economy, most of the largest companies in the world are all behaving in the same way.

00:22:01.000 And you need to actually have market exposure to those companies.

00:22:05.000 But the problem is the way that your own shares are voted, right?

00:22:09.000 So when you're saying vote with your dollars, it's one thing to shop as a customer of, I don't know, Under Armour over Nike or something.

00:22:15.000 It's another literally all of the investment fund money you have invested in your pension fund or your 401k account.

00:22:21.000 Literally, you get to vote as a shareholder for policies.

00:22:23.000 Do you want to vote for Chevron to adopt a Scope 3 emissions plan?

00:22:27.000 I don't think so. You want Chevron to vote for maximizing profit.

00:22:29.000 Do you want Apple to vote for racial equity audits?

00:22:34.000 And these are specific examples at specific companies where Apple adopted racial equity audits.

00:22:38.000 It's because BlackRock and State Street and a bunch of asset managers voted for it.

00:22:41.000 No, you don't want that because then you get suboptimal products and suboptimal engineers.

00:22:46.000 Or do you actually want them to focus on what maximizes value?

00:22:50.000 And so the irony, Don, is the reason these companies are all behaving that way is historically the wisdom used to be they're violating their fiduciary duty to shareholders.

00:22:59.000 And so to your question, wouldn't you just bring a fiduciary suit against one of these companies?

00:23:02.000 Here's what throws a wrench in that.

00:23:04.000 Most of the so-called shareholders of each of these companies are firms like BlackRock, State Street, Vanguard, Invesco, and others.

00:23:12.000 And the so-called shareholders are saying, no, no, no, this is exactly what we want you to be doing, which throws a wrench in the Milton Friedman logic to say that these CEOs are violating their fiduciary duty to the shareholders.

00:23:23.000 The shareholders, in air quotes, are saying that's exactly what they want these companies to be doing.

00:23:28.000 But the problem is the so-called shareholders are not the actual shareholders.

00:23:32.000 These are just pass-through vehicles for the everyday citizens who give their money to a wealth manager who then gives it to buy into a fund.

00:23:39.000 That fund's managed by BlackRock that then buys shares in the company like Apple that then vote for those policies.

00:23:45.000 And so I spent I was a CEO who raised external capital as a biotech company.

00:23:49.000 I wrote books about this.

00:23:51.000 So going deep into the root cause, decided to start a firm called Strive that then competes directly against BlackRock by offering the same kinds of investment products, but by voting for pro-profit policies in the boardroom.

00:24:04.000 Then the question, though, begs the question of why is BlackRock doing this, right?

00:24:08.000 So why is it in BlackRock's interest to vote for these environmental and social agendas in Apple's or Chevron's boardroom?

00:24:15.000 And the answer then comes back to government.

00:24:17.000 Because BlackRock, most of their money that they manage, is actually handed to them not by individual clients directly, but by government actors, particularly state pension funds, like CalPERS or like the state of New York.

00:24:28.000 CalPERS, the teachers' unions, the this.

00:24:30.000 So they're a bunch of leftists.

00:24:32.000 So they're okay... Sub-optimally investing your retirement funds, but with their inflation and all of this stuff, what you think you can be able to afford in time will not be there.

00:24:43.000 I mean, it's why Nikki Haley's flip-flopping so much on the retirement age, because they realize that's not going to be there if these policies continue, because you are not going to get the returns that you'd otherwise be able to get if people were just acting as rational actors.

00:24:57.000 That's right. That's right. And so it's not the invisible hand of the market.

00:25:01.000 It's the invisible fist of government that was guiding this, which all roads lead back to, I think, taking on the mother of all bureaucracies, which is the bureaucracy in the deep state and the federal government.

00:25:11.000 And so anyway, it was that journey that led me.

00:25:14.000 And I took on Big Pharma.

00:25:15.000 That was my biotech company.

00:25:17.000 It was actually about developing drugs that pharma refused to develop.

00:25:19.000 Why? Because pharma behaves in the shadow of the FDA, which they've captured.

00:25:23.000 In my entire business career, all roads lead back to the mother of all bureaucracies in the deep state.

00:25:28.000 And the correct answer, I think, is I don't even see the world through Democrats versus Republicans.

00:25:33.000 It's not really, I think, a useful term when you've got Republicans like Nikki Haley or others within a Republican party.

00:25:40.000 Why does this label mean anything?

00:25:42.000 Republicans in big old air quotes.

00:25:43.000 Right, exactly. So to me, the real dividing line is you got the permanent state versus the everyday citizen.

00:25:50.000 You've got the people who love the United States of America and our founding ideals and a fringe minority who hates this country and what we stand for, or to put it in broader terms, the great reset and the great uprising.

00:26:00.000 That's the dividing line.

00:26:01.000 It's not black versus white or red versus blue.

00:26:04.000 A lot of that is an optical illusion.

00:26:06.000 The real divide is the managerial class versus the everyday citizen.

00:26:10.000 And I have for my career and for my business career, and I think taken that into what my campaign represented, a effectively war on that administrative state, a war on the managerial class, a war on the permanent state.

00:26:24.000 That's what I wanted to do.

00:26:25.000 If I saw this all the way through and was elected as the next president, the top of my agenda was not to reform.

00:26:31.000 And I think that people get deluded by the idea that reform of this bureaucracy is possible, but the actual mission of shutting it down.

00:26:40.000 And so I aimed to run the campaign in the same way.

00:26:44.000 A lot of the usual political consultant nonsense.

00:26:46.000 We were draining the swamp in some ways at every step of running this campaign, draining the swamp in the media establishment.

00:26:52.000 But if you actually want to go in there and get that job done, it's going to require somebody to go into three-letter agencies in Washington, D.C. and not reforming them, but actually, quite literally, shutting them down.

00:27:03.000 And I have devoted...

00:27:05.000 I was a lawyer by background as well.

00:27:07.000 I tend to do a lot of different things.

00:27:09.000 I have a number of different interests.

00:27:11.000 I could tell you, go further back in my past.

00:27:13.000 But anyway, I think it's going to take a unique combination of legal knowledge to contend with, I think, a lot of the mumbo jumbo around civil service protections or otherwise, that they threw at your father and otherwise, that we're going to have to cut through to get that job done.

00:27:27.000 But I do think that if we drain that bureaucracy, actually shut that bureaucracy, the mother of all bureaucracies down, That has a domino effect, effectively, that restores integrity back into the capital markets, effectively takes the legs out from underneath the ESG movement, takes the legs out from underneath the corruption in big pharma and elsewhere.

00:27:47.000 That's downstream of what I see as the ultimate head of the snake, which is the deep state and the federal government.

00:27:53.000 Well, you've talked about that. I mean, you sort of talk about an American renaissance, an American revival.

00:27:58.000 I think you said it actually best the other night, you know, when you were on the stage with my father.

00:28:02.000 This is a 1776 moment.

00:28:05.000 Yes. And I think there's a lot of truth to that because it's gotten so ridiculous that... 0.77

00:28:11.000 Even those who are agnostic, even those who haven't been paying attention traditionally, they're now paying attention. 0.97

00:28:17.000 If a guy like me, the son of a billionaire, can go into a McDonald's with his kids and be like, damn, have sticker shock at the price or the grocery store, I'm not supposed to notice. 0.68

00:28:28.000 If I notice, and I notice a lot, a lot of people must be getting absolutely crushed.

00:28:37.000 Yeah, I think now the effect of that is literally not just the theoretical effect of people having their citizen and their civic voice no longer being heard, which is bad enough, but now it's actually affecting their pocketbook as well.

00:28:49.000 And so I think that that's a dangerous combination of circumstances.

00:28:54.000 The positive side of that is, if you do imagine that we're in a 1776 moment, What a special time that was to be alive in the spring of 1776, right?

00:29:02.000 I think there's a lot of opportunity to revive a sense of idealism when they weren't victimized by King George.

00:29:09.000 They could have chosen to be victims and angry about it, as opposed to say, we're actually going to do something about it.

00:29:13.000 And so that's part of what I've been trying to do in this campaign, or what was this campaign, I should say, is to revive that founding culture and spirit of exploration.

00:29:23.000 I mean, think about Thomas Jefferson.

00:29:25.000 He was 33 when he wrote the Declaration of Independence.

00:29:29.000 And he literally, I'm sitting in a swivel chair talking to you now, Don.

00:29:32.000 Thomas Jefferson invented the swivel chair.

00:29:34.000 Really? And now a 33-year-old is still trying to figure out their pronouns.

00:29:39.000 Yeah, exactly. Exactly.

00:29:41.000 How we have fallen, it's hard to believe.

00:29:44.000 It's 300 years and we're like way behind.

00:29:47.000 In this 250 years, but let's just take a positive minute and think about what that involves, reviving this.

00:29:53.000 But it wasn't just Thomas Jefferson.

00:29:55.000 Benjamin Franklin invented the Franklin stove, a lightning rod on top of the home, a remedy to the common cold, the bifocal spectacle.

00:30:03.000 This is also one of the signers of the Declaration of Independence.

00:30:06.000 Robert Livingston, I don't know who the ambassador to France was under, you know, Trump won administration, but...

00:30:13.000 Not to throw whoever that was under the bus, but Robert Livingston was an ambassador to France, and he was inventing one of the components to the steamship that eventually ended up being one of the great inventions of a century, while also being one of the signers of the Declaration of Independence.

00:30:26.000 These were the types of people who were our founding fathers, right?

00:30:29.000 But now they're being erased as well, because, you know, they...

00:30:33.000 It was slave owners. Jefferson had its slaves. 0.99

00:30:35.000 I mean, we must end all of that.

00:30:38.000 It started off, hey, well, that's a Confederate general, so we've got to delete that.

00:30:42.000 But you knew it was never going to end there because it never ends there.

00:30:46.000 And that's what people fail to recognize.

00:30:48.000 You try to capitulate a little bit.

00:30:50.000 You mentioned earlier sort of the corporate donations to BLM and the black squares.

00:30:55.000 Some of the literally most basic, boring, you know, I saw a lot of it, white women, that if their kids showed up with something, a minority or an African-American at home, they'd be going back to their friends like, oh my god, I can't believe... 1.00

00:31:10.000 They're posting BLM black squares. 1.00

00:31:12.000 I'm like, listen, everyone knows you're full of shit. 1.00

00:31:15.000 Stop. And yet they did it because the social pressure to not do it or the social credit for doing it, either way, whichever way you want to look at, was either beneficial or not to them for their very basic circles. 1.00

00:31:30.000 The irony on that, Don, is back in our founding era, John Adams actually was not a slaveholder.

00:31:36.000 He was somebody who was a principled abolitionist.

00:31:39.000 He was the second president of the United States.

00:31:40.000 People don't talk about it very much.

00:31:41.000 But the people who are today putting their little black square on their Instagram account 0.71

00:31:46.000 and have a nice little BLM fist or whatever, and the yard signs that read how they're against

00:31:51.000 racism are like the equivalent of the people back then who would have been unthinking slaveholders

00:31:56.000 at the time, actually.

00:31:57.000 They would not have been the John Adams figures of their day.

00:32:00.000 They would have just been the people conforming to the culture of their time.

00:32:03.000 And so, you know, to me, one of my missions in life is to challenge people and to wake

00:32:07.000 people up out of the orthodoxies they've been lulled into.

00:32:13.000 I think most people innately have both in them a lion and a sheep.

00:32:18.000 No one is 100 percent one of those things.

00:32:21.000 But I think right now we live in a moment in our culture, and I think we have for a good part of the last decade, where the sheep inside most of us has actually been what's Guided the way we behave.

00:32:31.000 We become a nation of sheep. 0.91

00:32:33.000 And a nation of sheep is what breeds the government of wolves. 0.86

00:32:36.000 And so in the way I'm running my businesses or my campaign or anything else, it's to wake up that inner animal spirit that I think right now has been domesticated and tamed into submission.

00:32:47.000 But when I say it's a 1776 moment, yes, I want to revive the ideals of the Constitution.

00:32:52.000 And yes, I think that we're going to have to step up and actually each do our part to revive those ideals.

00:32:57.000 But part of that's awakening the guy who invented the swivel chair or the lightning rod or the steamship while also signing a Declaration of Independence from a monarch who said that, you know what, I know what's best for you and you guys can't be trusted to self-govern to tell King George or some person in the back of a three-letter government agency or Larry Fink or whoever else Thank you very much for your benevolence, but we don't need that because we're going to self-govern and we the people determine how we're going to fight racial injustice or climate change or whatever else because that's what the United States of America was founded on.

00:33:27.000 That's why I think we live in an American revolutionary moment.

00:33:31.000 I don't think we have to fight the revolution this time.

00:33:33.000 If we get it right at the ballot box, that's actually the best way to do this.

00:33:36.000 But it's reviving those 1776 ideals.

00:33:39.000 That's the kind of moment we live in today, not some type of red versus blue Biden agenda.

00:33:46.000 I actually don't spend a lot of time bashing Biden.

00:33:48.000 But I also saw a lot of people fold.

00:33:51.000 COVID was an awakening moment.

00:33:52.000 A lot of people that I thought were definitely at least leaning towards Wolf end up just being sheep and the ridiculous mask stuff and the jabs.

00:34:04.000 I was a little shocked. 0.92

00:34:06.000 And you see it around the world.

00:34:07.000 You see what happened in Canada with the truckers and the shutting that down.

00:34:10.000 And in the UK, you go to jail for misgendering someone for two years.

00:34:14.000 I mean, I'm saying, whoa, whoa, whoa.

00:34:15.000 I thought these guys were...

00:34:17.000 Kind of like us in terms of freedom.

00:34:20.000 I don't want to say democracy because they're all a little different, but generally speaking, big D, little d, the terms of lowercase d democracy, they were there, and you realize they're basically totalitarian governments at this point, and I thought they were just like us, and you see where we're going, and I'm very worried about that direction if we don't sort of urge more people to actually unleash their inner wolf.

00:34:43.000 Yes, absolutely. And this is transnational right now.

00:34:46.000 So I think, forget about black versus white. 0.60

00:34:49.000 Even just take off the Republican versus Democrat filter.

00:34:52.000 I don't think the Republican label means very much right now.

00:34:55.000 Take that off. And then even beyond national boundaries.

00:34:58.000 I mean, what happened in Canada with the truckers?

00:35:00.000 What's going on in Argentina with Javier Malay coming to power?

00:35:02.000 What's going on even in places like Italy with Georgia Maloney?

00:35:05.000 This is a... This is a transnational great uprising against the vision of the Great Reset, right?

00:35:11.000 The Great Reset basically says, it's the old world European vision, which says, you know, you had the World Economic Forum in Davos just playing out in the last week or so, right?

00:35:19.000 That old world vision is rearing its head again that says the people cannot be trusted.

00:35:24.000 To self-govern. They'll ruin themselves, right?

00:35:26.000 Modern version of that is climate change.

00:35:28.000 The people can't be trusted because they won't have their own lives to potentially live for themselves.

00:35:33.000 We can't trust them to do that.

00:35:35.000 Out of our benevolence, we the autocrats, the monarchs, the autocrats have to decide what's best for the people at large.

00:35:42.000 That's what 1776 was about, to say, for better or worse, we say no to King George's vision and we say yes here.

00:35:49.000 That's what the World Economic Forum or the modern vision of the ESG industrial complex is all about, is to say that it's a fundamental skepticism of citizens to govern themselves.

00:36:00.000 And that's the moment we live in right now.

00:36:03.000 And I think there's a lot of that skepticism even within the Republican Party itself, Don.

00:36:07.000 I mean, that's what Nikki Haley means.

00:36:09.000 And I don't mean to make this partisan in the...

00:36:11.000 I know there's the New Hampshire primary and I'm not hitting her just for that reason.

00:36:14.000 I'm hitting her because of what she represents.

00:36:16.000 Well, she wants everyone on social media to be registered so that you know.

00:36:20.000 Exactly. You know, if they don't like what they say, they can shut you down.

00:36:22.000 I'm sure she'd be all for...

00:36:23.000 Listen, I know we spoke and you spoke to my father about a central bank digital currency.

00:36:29.000 And like, you just think of the trucker strike in Canada.

00:36:32.000 If the banks that shut them down, like if the government could literally go into whatever change they had in their pockets or on their phones and just be like, you're cut off.

00:36:42.000 I mean, that would be a disaster.

00:36:44.000 I mean, we spoke with my father about it, and the next day he's like, he's right.

00:36:48.000 We're never going to let that happen because we are about power to the people, letting them make their own decisions, good, bad, or indifferent.

00:36:56.000 Hey, plenty of people make a lot of bad decisions, but it's their decision to make.

00:37:00.000 But it's their decision to make, and that's the beauty of it.

00:37:02.000 I also want to take a minute to actually recognize your father on that.

00:37:07.000 People, I don't think that, you know, in my interactions with him, certainly,

00:37:10.000 I mean, you know him a lot better than I do, but I think he's broadly misunderstood by the public,

00:37:15.000 largely because of the media portrayals of it.

00:37:17.000 What I saw in that conversation we had backstage before he and I went on there

00:37:21.000 was somebody who was curious, actually.

00:37:23.000 Like, tell me more about what this is.

00:37:25.000 And it's not somebody's, you know, a lot of people might act like they're the ones

00:37:29.000 to actually know everything on day one.

00:37:31.000 He didn't pretend to me that he didn't know, he didn't know what that topic was.

00:37:34.000 He had the intellectual curiosity to get to the bottom of it.

00:37:36.000 I know a lot of other politicians who, because they've heard the term,

00:37:40.000 would pretend they know the first thing about it when they don't.

00:37:42.000 Here was the opposite.

00:37:43.000 Actually, it was a mark of a kind of humility that I respect, actually.

00:37:48.000 And so the fact that in a brief conversation, get to the bottom of it,

00:37:52.000 understand what's wrong with it, take the day, and then the next day is able

00:37:56.000 to actually take a principled stand, I think is actually encouraging.

00:37:59.000 And if more people, I think, saw that side of Donald Trump, I think that he would actually be far more persuasive

00:38:06.000 to a lot of people who are just swallowing what they're force fed from the media.

00:38:10.000 But regardless, I think it's going to take leaders like that to be able to cut through what's otherwise coming from this monarchical agenda.

00:38:18.000 And they find their puppets in the Democrat Party, but they find their puppets within the Republican Party to advance their agenda, too.

00:38:23.000 And Nikki Haley is just the latest vehicle that they found to advance that monarchical agenda. 0.69

00:38:28.000 Yeah, and speaking of that sort of agenda, because I mean, again, we both sort of come from—I mean, you're more corporate America.

00:38:34.000 We were family business, but at a pretty large scale.

00:38:37.000 I talk a lot about the failures of the Biden economy and the Democrat policy and the insanity, but it's not just like inflation and this.

00:38:44.000 It's also sort of— We're good to go.

00:39:13.000 Can you talk about what are the other sort of major red flags you see?

00:39:16.000 You mentioned it as it related to sort of big pharma and going through the FDA. Is there a cure for cancer that we're just never going to see because someone's paying the FDA to shut it down because, yeah, we spent a lot of money on this other thing.

00:39:31.000 We're going to make sure we get our investment.

00:39:34.000 Invermectin clearly doesn't work, even though it worked.

00:39:37.000 You know, once you actually go through the studies, because, well, you know, if it really works and we have a cheap cure, you know, no one's going to make billions and they're not going to get on the board of Pfizer or, you know, big pharma once they get out of their governmental role.

00:39:51.000 And that's the problem. Whether it's big military or big pharma, there's always a role later on on a board of some company making stupid money for doing nothing if you give them what they want when you're in the position of power to do so.

00:40:05.000 So I'll offer a couple simple points.

00:40:08.000 This is why I say there's not Republican versus Democrat on this.

00:40:10.000 I don't think you should be able to join the board of a company if you have been a regulator of that company.

00:40:15.000 I don't think that's complicated, and yet it's happening regularly, on the regular, Republican and Democrat alike.

00:40:21.000 I don't think you should be allowed to trade individual stocks if you're in Congress or regulating a particular industry or has setting policy.

00:40:28.000 Nancy Pelosi is not that good an investor that she can outperform the greatest geniuses of Wall Street every year by magic. 1.00

00:40:34.000 It doesn't happen that way.

00:40:36.000 I can tell you, my first seven years of my job out of college was at a hedge fund.

00:40:40.000 I worked with some of the smartest people I have met.

00:40:42.000 I will tell you, I've met most of the people in Congress.

00:40:44.000 They would do themselves a favor not to be trading individual stocks unless they're actually utilizing the public's information to advantage themselves, which is exactly what's happening today.

00:40:53.000 But I think basic anti-corruption measures make absolute sense in the world as it relates to the FDA. I'm a medical choice absolutist.

00:41:00.000 If you want to take something, just because the FDA has not approved it, as long as you're fully informed and have informed consent, you should be allowed to take a potential life-saving therapy on the basis of what you know about that rather than the FDA. Well, my father did that with Right to Try, right? I mean, it seems so obvious.

00:41:18.000 You're about to drop dead in seven minutes.

00:41:20.000 We have something that seems promising, but we're not going to let you take it because the FDA... I'm like, wait a minute.

00:41:25.000 Hey, and the amount of lives it saved and the amount of research...

00:41:29.000 It's funny. So your father was right about right to try.

00:41:33.000 I just want to kind of zoom in here a layer deeper, just because I was in the industry, so you sort of see what happens.

00:41:39.000 Here's the deal with the FDA, all right?

00:41:41.000 So they hated the fact.

00:41:43.000 They completely detested the fact that right to try became a thing, right?

00:41:48.000 So that's where you get a president. Trump has a right vision, tries to get this passed into the law, and there's right to try.

00:41:54.000 There's effectively an unspoken rule in the industry that you know that if you as a company made your therapy available through Right to Try, which sidestepped the FDA, the FDA, and I haven't talked about this before, but this is actually a really classic example of the managerial class.

00:42:10.000 The FDA will despise you as a company for it, so much so that any other drug that you're pushing through the FDA, you know they're gonna blackball you.

00:42:19.000 And so there's an old expression in the pharmaceutical industry, it goes, FDA never forgets, right?

00:42:24.000 So the idea of actually utilizing Right to Try is totally unthinkable, even though that's the law of the land, because we the people said that's what we wanted, voted for president, voted for congressmen who passed that.

00:42:35.000 Doesn't matter because the fourth branch, the FDA, has decided that if a company is actually using Right to Try, they're going to actually bring the hammer down on you on anything else you're trying to get through that FDA, such that that answers the mystery, Don, of why.

00:42:49.000 So people criticized your father for passing that, saying that the companies know that their products actually aren't going to be safe for people to use.

00:42:56.000 And so this whole Right to Try thing was much ado about nothing.

00:42:59.000 And they criticized the people who pushed it.

00:43:01.000 The reality actually belies that.

00:43:03.000 I talk about this. I have a whole chapter in my first book in Woking.

00:43:06.000 It's called The Rise of the Managerial Class and kind of explains what's going on.

00:43:10.000 The jujitsu move here is the FDA, the rank and file, wanted to make a fool of the elected representatives, including the president of the United States, by showing them that, see, we told you companies were better off not actually making their drugs available.

00:43:23.000 But through the back door, here's the part that people didn't know.

00:43:25.000 They're effectively telling companies that if they do use Right to Try, they're going to make your life hell.

00:43:30.000 Everybody in the industry knew it.

00:43:32.000 So nobody in the industry said, okay, there's patients who are potentially dying or suffering from not having access to the drug.

00:43:37.000 But I know that I'm not going to get my other drugs through the FDA if I avail myself of this law that Trump passed because these people at the FDA want to actually make Trump look foolish for trying to pass it and actually penalize companies.

00:43:48.000 So that's the whole game, which comes back to, you have to shut it down.

00:43:54.000 Reform of these agencies don't work.

00:43:55.000 Putting Betsy DeVos or whoever else, well-intentioned they might be, on top of the Department of 1.00

00:44:00.000 Education or pick your favorite bureaucrat on top of the FDA or on top of the IRS or

00:44:05.000 on top of the ATF or the FBI or the CDC or the Nuclear Regulatory Commission.

00:44:10.000 It does not work.

00:44:12.000 Reform is impossible.

00:44:14.000 The correct answer is you have to actually shut it down.

00:44:18.000 And they told your father, understandably, things like, oh, you can't shut these things down because these employees enjoy civil service protections.

00:44:27.000 You familiar with this issue? I am.

00:44:30.000 Yes, sir. No, not really.

00:44:31.000 Yes, I am. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:44:33.000 You are. I couldn't hear you. Sorry. So the reality is, if you get into the law, I mean, these people are snakes, right?

00:44:41.000 Those civil service protections only protect against individual employee firings, right?

00:44:47.000 To say that you couldn't fire that person at the FDA because you disagree with them on gun control.

00:44:51.000 I don't know. Make that up. That's what the law says you can't do. 0.90

00:44:55.000 However, it does not protect against mass indiscriminate firings.

00:45:00.000 And mass firings are absolutely what we need to bring to that DC bureaucracy.

00:45:05.000 So the top plank of my presidential platform was a 75% mass headcount reduction across the federal bureaucracy, purposefully indiscriminately.

00:45:15.000 Not that you're going to get the bad ones out.

00:45:18.000 You can bring the chisel out after you get the first 75% out.

00:45:21.000 But 75% mass firing across the board.

00:45:24.000 It's kind of like what Elon did to Twitter. 0.97

00:45:25.000 The darn thing will work better the next day if you actually clean house. 0.95

00:45:29.000 What about 25% of the people? 0.98

00:45:31.000 Actually, it's arguably less than that.

00:45:33.000 But generously, 25% of the people are all you need there in the first place.

00:45:37.000 That is how you drain the swamp.

00:45:39.000 Now, are they going to sue us?

00:45:40.000 Yes, they will. But...

00:45:42.000 Your father actually did a good job, excellent job with the Supreme Court justices.

00:45:47.000 Six out of the nine Supreme Court justices agree with everything that I'm telling you.

00:45:49.000 That's what a president actually can do.

00:45:52.000 That's what it's actually going to take.

00:45:53.000 So even passing good laws like Right to Try, and there's the equivalent in the energy sector and the EPA. I mean, every one of these agencies is the same old story.

00:46:01.000 The good laws alone aren't going to change it if that rot still survives.

00:46:05.000 And so that's what I'm passionate about.

00:46:07.000 It reminds me sort of of Fauci, right?

00:46:09.000 I always use the example of Fauci.

00:46:11.000 He was never the best doctor.

00:46:13.000 He probably wasn't even a journeyman doctor, but he was a better bureaucrat.

00:46:18.000 So anyone who stood in his way, he'd steamroll them, he'd screw them over, they'd make sure they'd never work again.

00:46:25.000 And when you saw COVID, it's like, of course...

00:46:28.000 You know, the Wuhan virus came from the lab in Wuhan that studies the exact virus in question, not from seven feet outside of the lab, as they tried to tell you.

00:46:37.000 But if you were a doctor and you said, like, of course the Wuhan lab leak theory is the most plausible.

00:46:42.000 You were censored. You were cut off from funding.

00:46:44.000 You were this. So you could speak the truth, but...

00:46:48.000 You'd never work again.

00:46:49.000 You lost that tenure that you had, and he was maniacal enough that he would exercise that kind of power, sort of like you're saying with the FDA and Right to Try.

00:46:57.000 But it's not just Fauci, and it's the hundred people underneath him, right?

00:47:02.000 It is the machine.

00:47:03.000 And so this is where I have a different opinion from most Republicans.

00:47:08.000 I might have a different opinion than your father on this one, too.

00:47:10.000 You can't do it by just firing Christopher Wray.

00:47:14.000 At the FBI. 100% right.

00:47:17.000 You have to break the apparatus.

00:47:19.000 You have to shut it down.

00:47:21.000 It's the only option. Now, there's always two risks, right?

00:47:24.000 Do you not cut enough fat?

00:47:25.000 In which case, you know, you haven't cut enough.

00:47:28.000 Or do you cut too much that you take the risk of cutting muscle?

00:47:32.000 I would take that risk over the risk of not cutting it up.

00:47:35.000 Because if you have an aided hydra and you cut off one of the heads, it grows right back.

00:47:39.000 You have to gut it at its core.

00:47:42.000 And absent that, no amount of reform is going to actually make that difference.

00:47:47.000 And so that's why I was so passionate, animated, even running in a race against a man who I immensely admire, which I think I made abundantly clear over the course of the race, if you were watching.

00:47:59.000 I respected Donald Trump immensely for his contributions to this country.

00:48:02.000 I think it takes a businessman.

00:48:04.000 He did something that nobody had ever else done.

00:48:05.000 The expression I use in the campaign trail was, he rolled that log over and we saw what crawled out of that swamp.

00:48:11.000 100%. Which I respected.

00:48:12.000 But the contrast I was drawn from your father is, I want to come and bring the pesticide now, right?

00:48:16.000 There's a role for the guy to expose it.

00:48:18.000 I like that role. Listen, it's clear you've done the research.

00:48:22.000 You understand where these things are.

00:48:23.000 You understand who those things are.

00:48:24.000 And you're right. It's not just Ray.

00:48:26.000 I used to do the...

00:48:27.000 Often, I'd be like, listen, we make a distinction between the door kickers and the bureaucrats at the top at the FBI. But now I'm like...

00:48:34.000 Well, now you're arresting innocent people.

00:48:36.000 You're breaking down their doors with machine guns.

00:48:38.000 Like, when do you guys say enough is enough?

00:48:40.000 Like, I've given you the hall pass for your, I'm just doing my job.

00:48:43.000 But when you're doing your job knowingly infringing on rights, when you're entrapping, you know, some meth head to try to pretend there was a government, there was a, you know, a plot to assassinate and kidnap the governor of Michigan.

00:48:54.000 Like, it's all a lie.

00:48:56.000 Like, when are you culpable?

00:48:59.000 When do you lose the hall pass I gave you for doing your job?

00:49:03.000 Because you're no longer just doing your job.

00:49:05.000 So the next time I have a conversation with your father again, because I've been impressed by how receptive he has actually been to reasoned analysis and argument, I'm going to actually talk to him about the FBI. Because...

00:49:17.000 I know he's talking about the new building.

00:49:21.000 What are they going to do? Let's actually just get to the math of this.

00:49:23.000 There's 35,000 employees at the FBI. 20,000 of them are the back office bureaucrats in the J. Edgar Hoover building and the other back office functions throughout the federal government.

00:49:32.000 That's where the rot comes from.

00:49:34.000 So firing Christopher Wray and giving him a new building, that's not going to get the job done.

00:49:37.000 We have to shut it down.

00:49:39.000 The 15,000 people who are the frontline cops, most of them are just following directives.

00:49:45.000 Don, I'd say let's move them to the U.S. Marshals or to the DEA, flawed as the DEA is, or to the Financial Crimes Enforcement Network at the U.S. Treasury that goes after the SBFs of the world. 1.00

00:49:56.000 So just take the line soldiers, and even if you move them to some of the agencies that have been corrupted, But for the J. Edgar Hoover building at the FBI, the institution itself, what I call the failed Bureau of Investigation, the 20,000 back office bureaucrats at the FBI, we have to be willing to do the hard thing and actually shut it down.

00:50:14.000 Will they try to blackball you?

00:50:16.000 I mean, I wouldn't put it past these people anymore.

00:50:18.000 I mean, we could just... We'll leave it at that.

00:50:20.000 But they will stop at nothing.

00:50:22.000 100%. Insidious.

00:50:39.000 Yeah, well, you saw what they did to the whistleblowers, right?

00:50:41.000 The whistleblowers, it was against Trump.

00:50:43.000 Backlash. That person was beyond reproach.

00:50:46.000 How dare you, even if it's totally biased, even if it was ridiculous, even if it was proven true, it didn't matter.

00:50:50.000 If you were a whistleblower against their insanity, you know, again, whether it was the Gretchen Wittner plot, I mean, you know, the January 6th pipe bomb, which magically was discovered by a plainclothes capital police officer.

00:51:02.000 Two of them. For the DNC and the RNC. Unbelievable.

00:51:05.000 It was almost like if they didn't get what they wanted out of January 6th, then they had another avenue that they could pursue to create the insurrection argument.

00:51:14.000 We can't release the videos because there's 200-plus FBI agents in the, quote, first unarmed insurrection in the history of the world.

00:51:23.000 We can't release it because we'd give up our officers.

00:51:25.000 So they were there, they were in the room, and they didn't do anything to stop it?

00:51:29.000 Like, What's going on here?

00:51:31.000 And Kamala Harris was at the DNC headquarters.

00:51:35.000 And Kamala Harris was there the morning of at the DNC headquarters, which is actually the funniest and most bizarre piece of that twist, that that security didn't get it, but later on they did it at the right time.

00:51:44.000 So that's where that shoe is going to drop, I believe, as the details of the pipe bomb investigation come out.

00:51:49.000 But I'm going to make a broader point here.

00:51:51.000 Donald, we've got to level up, man.

00:51:52.000 And I think that as a movement with the rigor that we're actually able to cut through the BS that they push our way, that was my purpose in this race.

00:52:00.000 And I think that for our movement, we cannot just stop at sort of throwing our hands up in the air and just using the general expressions we've used.

00:52:09.000 We have to get and level up with respect to the level of detail and rigor.

00:52:13.000 I'm talking about the plan for shutting down the FBI. That's one example of it.

00:52:17.000 Or the FDA. Or thinking about actually cutting through the specifics of which video footage was or was not released to understand that the same person, DeAntonio, Stephen DeAntonio, who ran the Detroit field office of the FBI, which actually started with a plot to storm the Capitol in Michigan that became the Gretchen Whitmer kidnapping plot, Pointing to the actual jury acquittals of multiple of those defendants on the ground of entrapment.

00:52:41.000 That Detroit field office head was the very person who was then promoted by Christopher Wray to become the DC field office head months before January 6th, 2021.

00:52:50.000 But what I want to ask of our movement, and I'm going to do my part to do it, Is we have to level up with the rigor that we're actually bringing to the table, or else we're going to be on the losing side of this.

00:53:03.000 Can't just pass the laws, think we accomplished something, replace a figurehead on top and call it a day.

00:53:08.000 We have to be willing to go in and gut the very existence of that bureaucracy.

00:53:14.000 On legally rigorous footing at every step of the way to say that, you know what, if you're going to sue us, that's fine.

00:53:18.000 We're going to take it to the Supreme Court and win.

00:53:20.000 That's what it's going to take to drive change in this country.

00:53:23.000 And that's what, frankly, motivated me in this.

00:53:28.000 I'm speaking super candidly, but I felt like that level of rigor was missing.

00:53:34.000 And... Our movement, we owe it to this movement to take this further.

00:53:38.000 And so now I'm all in, and I'm going to help Donald Trump.

00:53:41.000 I mean, people spoke loud and clear.

00:53:42.000 Ultimately, the beauty of our system is it's up to the people.

00:53:45.000 And so the people have spoken loud and clear.

00:53:47.000 I'm all in to make sure that he's as successful as he can be.

00:53:50.000 But I think that we have to do it by leveling up our own movement with respect to the rigor of going about it this time around, because the rot runs far deeper than just even the Fauci's or the Christopher Wray's.

00:54:03.000 I don't know if the position exists, man, but we may have to create that position for you because, you know, you're right.

00:54:09.000 You do need that. You also need...

00:54:11.000 I mean, I don't need any particular position myself.

00:54:13.000 There's better people to do this.

00:54:14.000 That's great. But you need a team of people, right?

00:54:15.000 We have to eradicate this. Someone needs to bring the pesticide, actually, is what we actually need.

00:54:19.000 Yeah. So that's what we need in this movement.

00:54:22.000 We also need the resolve that, unfortunately, is so lacking, you know, in the Republican Party so much.

00:54:28.000 You know, the Republicans... You know, it's a pretty easy existence in D.C. to be a Republican, shockingly, if you just roll over...

00:54:34.000 It doesn't mean anything. Like, you know, 30% of the time.

00:54:36.000 You can be, like, kind of, you know, 75% Republican and tell your people at home who voted for you to be a conservative, you know, what they want to hear there.

00:54:46.000 But if you go to D.C. and you give up on the big ones, you know...

00:54:48.000 You know, Lankford over in Oklahoma...

00:54:51.000 Let's just open up the borders and basically pass a bill that gives them amnesty.

00:54:56.000 It's like, wait, the people of Oklahoma certainly don't want that.

00:54:59.000 Real conservatives don't want that.

00:55:00.000 But he's too afraid to go up against the left.

00:55:02.000 So he will give Chuck Schumer whatever they want.

00:55:05.000 And I'd love to actually hear your opinion on the borders.

00:55:09.000 Because, like me, you're the son of immigrants.

00:55:14.000 My mother was an immigrant.

00:55:15.000 and some of the most patriotic people I know are actually immigrants who did it the right way.

00:55:20.000 But the left, they love to frame sort of the open borders thing.

00:55:23.000 It's compassion.

00:55:25.000 But the reality is there's nothing compassionate about A, ceding your sovereignty, 0.98

00:55:30.000 undermining your own citizens, but also creating an incentive structure

00:55:34.000 for people to travel thousands of miles with no means, being trafficked by codis, drug traffickers.

00:55:40.000 I mean, talk about the importance of patriotism and the virtue of embracing border security

00:55:48.000 and the nation state, as well as the humanitarian crisis that we're causing under the guise of being nice.

00:55:58.000 Because it's total nonsense.

00:56:00.000 A nation without borders is not a nation.

00:56:02.000 Let's just sort of accept that basic truth.

00:56:05.000 You want to address this border crisis?

00:56:06.000 I'm just going to get to the punchline.

00:56:08.000 Let me work South to North, okay?

00:56:10.000 Stop any federal funding for Central America or Mexico, period, and instead require every one of those countries, 0.98

00:56:17.000 right, all the way from Venezuela to the northern border of Texas,

00:56:20.000 to rebuild their own border barricades, including across what's called the Darien Pass,

00:56:25.000 the jungle region that people didn't use to pass through.

00:56:28.000 Keep in mind that 80% of the people coming into our country from Mexico,

00:56:32.000 over 80% of them did not start in Mexico.

00:56:34.000 So if every one of those countries saying, we're done, cut off the foreign aid tomorrow, and require that they build their own border barricades from Honduras, Nicaragua, Panama, every one of those countries all the way up, Then you stop the flow.

00:56:45.000 Now you come to our own southern border.

00:56:48.000 Of course, completion of the wall is necessary.

00:56:50.000 Even Biden agrees with that now.

00:56:52.000 But that's not enough.

00:56:53.000 They're building cartel finance tunnels underneath that wall.

00:56:56.000 There are certain areas that cannot be walled.

00:56:58.000 The right answer ends up being, I believe, move our own military to the southern border.

00:57:03.000 And where's our military? We got 40,000 troops sitting in places like Germany, which does not even pay 2% of its own GDP on its own military expenditures.

00:57:13.000 Japan. Germany and Japan are two of the biggest places, but Germany is a NATO ally.

00:57:18.000 Bound to spend 2% of its own GDP and still doesn't do it to this day, laughing at us at every step of the way, free riding.

00:57:25.000 So a lot of those troops, we just move them to our own southern border, complete the border wall, end the foreign aid to Central America, require each of them to build their border barricades.

00:57:33.000 We've got our border sealed.

00:57:34.000 I mean, we've got that problem solved.

00:57:36.000 I had to actually go one step further preemptively, and I'd move a good part of our military to protect our northern border, too.

00:57:42.000 Keep in mind, our northern border has seen more illegal border crossings last year than the last 12 years combined.

00:57:48.000 But the combination of those two things send a signal to the rest of the world, and half of this is the signal that we send, that we're not open for business anymore to this type of illegal mass migration.

00:57:58.000 Now you bring it back home.

00:57:59.000 Let's do the best border policies of all.

00:58:02.000 Cease any dime of federal funding to a sanctuary city.

00:58:04.000 We're done creating the incentives to be here illegally.

00:58:07.000 And then on day one, and I can talk to you about why the president can do this, Don.

00:58:11.000 I think they may have more that mythology from the deep state that they might have given to your father.

00:58:18.000 End birthright citizenship for the kids of illegal migrants. 0.99

00:58:21.000 The president does not need anybody's permission to do this because the 14th Amendment already says so.

00:58:25.000 I can tell you why. And then I would start the process of mass deportations.

00:58:30.000 Anybody who's in this country illegally. 1.00

00:58:32.000 I mean, I love the beauty of legal immigrants who are willing to make contributions to this country if they come the right way and do it, like your mother and my parents.

00:58:41.000 But... Anybody who's in this country illegally has to be returned to their country of origin, period. 0.99

00:58:47.000 Again, things that they tell people in the last administration is, oh, there's only 6,000 ICE agents.

00:58:52.000 How are we possibly going to remove a bunch of people who are here illegally by the millions? 1.00

00:58:57.000 The answer is there's a section in the law that allows you to do it.

00:59:00.000 If you... It's called 287G. It allows you to serve local law enforcement, to use local law enforcement to serve ISIS warrants.

00:59:08.000 You then have a million local law enforcement.

00:59:10.000 This ends up being a doable task.

00:59:13.000 But it takes, I think, a spine, someone with a spine and the knowledge of the law to see that through, to deliver that mass removal.

00:59:21.000 And then this birthright citizenship point I just want to make, because I think this is super important for people to understand.

00:59:26.000 You're familiar with the issue of birthright citizenship?

00:59:28.000 that if you're born here, you know, automatically conferred citizenship.

00:59:33.000 They say that that's what the constitution says.

00:59:36.000 Here's my suggestion, read the constitution.

00:59:38.000 The opening words of the 14th amendment are clear.

00:59:41.000 It says all persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction

00:59:48.000 thereof, those are the magic words, are citizens.

00:59:51.000 Well, what do those words mean?

00:59:53.000 If you're not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States,

00:59:55.000 you don't enjoy birthright citizenship.

00:59:58.000 So the kid of a Mexican diplomat, take that example.

01:00:00.000 A kid of a Mexican diplomat is here, he's here legally, right?

01:00:05.000 The Mexican diplomat is allowed to be in this country.

01:00:07.000 If he has a kid in the United States, does that kid enjoy birthright citizenship?

01:00:11.000 The answer to that is no.

01:00:12.000 And there's not a judge or legal scholar in this country who would disagree with me on that.

01:00:16.000 Well, if the kid of a Mexican diplomat who's here legally does not enjoy birthright citizenship, then neither does the kid of a Mexican or Venezuelan illegal migrant who's here enjoy birthright citizenship either.

01:00:28.000 Which means the next president who swears an oath to the Constitution, and that's going to be your father if we get our jobs and get our ducks in a row and do this right, We're good to go.

01:00:59.000 That has eliminated a mass part of the incentive. 0.62

01:01:01.000 If you've also eliminated federal funding for sanctuary cities, you've eliminated the incentives to be here.

01:01:05.000 You've got the military on the border, completed the wall, and ended federal funding for the other countries that haven't built their own border barricades.

01:01:12.000 We got this problem solved, right?

01:01:14.000 And everything I told you, we don't even...

01:01:16.000 Did I talk about passing a bill through Congress?

01:01:18.000 No, I didn't, because existing laws already allow for it.

01:01:23.000 And 287G already allows us to use local law enforcement, of whom we have a million, to go after the 8 million who are here illegally. 0.99

01:01:30.000 It comes back down to that deep state that has duped the President of the United States to say that, no, no, no.

01:01:36.000 Here's what the law and the Constitution say.

01:01:38.000 Thank you very much. We're clearing house for the 75% who are the rot that live there and the remaining 25% to get that job done. 1.00

01:01:45.000 All we need to do is use the executive branch to get that job done. 0.90

01:01:51.000 And I think that we could actually in the first six months revive this country.

01:01:55.000 Then that parts the seas in Congress to say, okay, you guys see the country's actually on track to being normalized from a border crisis to an economy that's growing again.

01:02:03.000 We're sending a lot of those unconstitutional regulations.

01:02:05.000 That grows the economy. Great.

01:02:07.000 Now let's talk about what we want to get done through Congress.

01:02:09.000 I think that's how it's got to be done this time around.

01:02:12.000 And I think that there's the sad part about this is the bar has been set so low that we could score

01:02:19.000 a bunch of big wins very quickly that you could turn this country around in six months and then

01:02:24.000 that gets Congress back in line to pass the legislative agenda, which I think should come

01:02:28.000 after the executive agenda that we start with. And I think that sometimes starting with the

01:02:33.000 legislative agenda first slows things down versus saying, what can we get done through the executive

01:02:38.000 branch right now, score some big wins for the country, and then use that as a tailwind to drive

01:02:43.000 the legislative agenda after.

01:02:45.000 I think that's the way things need to go.

01:02:46.000 Yeah, and listen, I think we tried doing a lot of that in the first time with executive orders that actually were effective.

01:02:51.000 They worked very well, but then you have Congress trying to undermine you at all costs.

01:02:57.000 So a big part of this is, again, no different than the institutions.

01:03:01.000 You can't just cut off the head of the snake.

01:03:02.000 You've got to take it back down further.

01:03:04.000 We have the same thing in Congress, because even we had the House, we had the Senate, we had the presidency, but if you have...

01:03:11.000 Weak congressmen that are more worried about being invited to the cool person holiday party and Christmas party in Washington, D.C. than they are delivering for their constituency or the beliefs of their party or their commander in chief.

01:03:23.000 That rot applies across the board.

01:03:25.000 It's not just within the institutions.

01:03:27.000 Exactly, exactly. And so I think you just go one by one.

01:03:30.000 I think that a lot of what I'm talking about, there's executive orders that could be substitutes for policy, but the kind of executive actions I'm talking about are, if you're shutting down massive numbers of agencies, then Congress has to act to bring them back.

01:03:44.000 The executive, in many cases, can shut them down.

01:03:46.000 But to bring them back...

01:03:48.000 The next president can't just bring it back with the stroke of a pen.

01:03:51.000 And so that's the beauty of taking more of the shutdown approach.

01:03:54.000 And so anyway, I think, as you can tell, I'm very biased towards that.

01:03:58.000 I think we need to bring Javier Malay on steroids to the United States of America. 1.00

01:04:02.000 And I think that's what it's going to take to actually get this job done.

01:04:05.000 And there's going to be all kinds of resistance, no doubt about it.

01:04:08.000 But certainly, I think the next time Maybe you'll have the conversation sooner than I do, and all the better if you do.

01:04:16.000 Well, I think we all have a lot of conversations.

01:04:18.000 I think we believe the same things.

01:04:20.000 And so does he, frankly.

01:04:22.000 I know he does.

01:04:24.000 He sees that. He sees the attacks.

01:04:25.000 He sees the attacks on him, but the regular people of America and how the full force and effect of our federal government has been weaponized really against 50% of the people, or at least certainly more so against the ones that are vocal.

01:04:39.000 I want to talk about that because there is a lack of justice, it seems, these days.

01:04:44.000 And maybe our most important virtue within our institutions is justice itself, right?

01:04:49.000 Without it, citizens lose complete faith in the integrity in government.

01:04:53.000 And by the way, I think some of it's very intentional for government.

01:04:56.000 They want to demoralize you.

01:04:58.000 They want you to think your vote doesn't matter.

01:05:00.000 They want you to sit at home and they'll tell you what's better for you.

01:05:04.000 They're full of it. They've proven themselves to be wrong, but they've also proven themselves, in my mind, to be evil.

01:05:09.000 You know, what's your vision, the path to restoring credibility within the justice system?

01:05:16.000 Yeah, so I think that it starts with a powerful move that's in the president's hands on day one, which is a series of, like, I think it's going to be a very long list of pardons.

01:05:28.000 To say that anybody who was incorrectly prosecuted or persecuted because of their own political beliefs, just as it was wrong, and this country, it's happened because of skin color, Don, you know, 160 years ago, that was the case, and it was wrong then.

01:05:42.000 Well, just as somebody should not be held a different standard of the rule of law because of their skin color a century and a half ago, They shouldn't be held to a different standard of the rule of law because of their political belief either.

01:05:52.000 And so if somebody else would not have been persecuted under the same circumstances, and we know that with hard evidence that they weren't, that puts somebody eligible for a pardon.

01:06:00.000 Take Douglas Mackey. Douglas Mackey and Christina Wong, she's a comedian, literally did the same thing in reverse, wasn't prosecuted but celebrated as a comedian.

01:06:07.000 That's a classic case for a pardon on the grounds of political injustice.

01:06:12.000 A peaceful January 6th protester versus BLM or Antifa that was treated a different way

01:06:16.000 in that same year of 2020.

01:06:19.000 And I think it's going to take for restoring justice.

01:06:22.000 As you know, I've been a big advocate of this.

01:06:23.000 I was an advocate of this with your father the other night.

01:06:25.000 I'm hopeful to see this translate.

01:06:27.000 I think if he does this in New Hampshire, I think the people in New Hampshire would

01:06:30.000 rally behind him.

01:06:31.000 And I think it's the right decision to give a pardon to Julian Assange.

01:06:34.000 I agree with you 100%.

01:06:36.000 And honestly, seven or eight years ago, I wouldn't have.

01:06:39.000 Yeah. Before I saw what the government will do, because I know what they're trying to do to me, and certainly see what they're trying to do to my father.

01:06:45.000 And, you know, there was a time I was like, no, he's a traitor, he gave up secrets.

01:06:48.000 And now I'm realizing, no, no, no, like, our government has been lying to us.

01:06:52.000 Totally. We have intelligence people that lied before Congress.

01:06:56.000 Not only do they not face any ramifications, they get, like, contributing jobs at CNN to continue to lie to the American people.

01:07:04.000 Oh, absolutely. Because it was the fifth branch of government.

01:07:06.000 They don't lose their intelligence access.

01:07:08.000 I'm looking at the 51 people in the intelligence community.

01:07:12.000 They don't lose their top secret clearance for lying to the American public that the Hunter Biden laptop wasn't real.

01:07:19.000 They get a promotion. They get a promotion and added consulting gigs.

01:07:22.000 And even on the Julian Assange thing, I mean, again, I want to be really rigorous about this because the facts of it, I think, are worth noting.

01:07:29.000 He was the journalist who published the documents that were leaked to him by the government.

01:07:34.000 That's literally how Washington, D.C. works.

01:07:36.000 It's like the Washington Post's business model, right?

01:07:39.000 But here's the dirty little secret in this, Don, is, again, because we're going to get assailed from the left or assailed from, I mean, for all I know, Julian Assange might have left-wing political beliefs.

01:07:48.000 I don't know. But here's what I will tell you.

01:07:51.000 Is the person who leaked the documents to him was Chelsea Manning, who did get pardoned by President Obama.

01:07:59.000 So get this straight. The government official who leaked the documents to Julian Assange got a pardon.

01:08:04.000 You want to know what the dirty little truth is about Chelsea Manning? 1.00

01:08:09.000 Chelsea Manning is transgender.

01:08:10.000 Yes, so that was the beginning of the...

01:08:13.000 That was the beginning of the trans thing. 1.00

01:08:15.000 That is the most privileged class in America today.

01:08:18.000 Totally it is. If you were trans, you are literally... 1.00

01:08:20.000 There's nothing you can do wrong. 0.81

01:08:21.000 There's no higher rung in America than to be somebody who mistakes your gender for something different than your biological sex.

01:08:27.000 But the funniest part about this is Chelsea Manning's transgender epiphany Happened while Chelsea Manning was in prison, which tells me that Chelsea Manning is probably not transgender. 0.70

01:08:39.000 Chelsea Manning is just probably highly intelligent, knowing that that would actually be how she would earn a pardon, with President Obama actually then giving that pardon to somebody who became transgender while in jail in need of a pardon, knowing that increased the likelihood of a pardon and was correct and actually got the pardon. 0.84

01:08:53.000 While Julian Assange, the person who literally just published the documents, The journalist who never signed an oath of obligation to the government is rotting in a foreign prison.

01:09:02.000 That's two standards of justice.

01:09:04.000 Trump or Biden, BLM or Antifa, Douglas Mackey or Christina Wong.

01:09:08.000 I don't care. We don't have two standards of the rule of law.

01:09:11.000 So the way I would do this...

01:09:13.000 I say I would do this. At least this time around, I'm not going to be the president.

01:09:16.000 But in my mode of running for president, the way I would have done this is turn over everybody at not only every U.S. attorney, not just the attorney general, every assistant U.S. attorney at the DOJ. Take the FBI. They work hand in glove with.

01:09:29.000 Don't try to reform it to put a different Christopher Wray on top in a different building.

01:09:32.000 No. Shut it down.

01:09:34.000 The 15,000 cops on the front lines, move them to the U.S. Marshals, to the DEA, to the Financial Crimes Enforcement Network.

01:09:40.000 We got to get, I mean, you got to roll your sleeves up and be willing to bring not the chisel, but the chainsaw.

01:09:46.000 That is what this is going to take, because otherwise it is an optical illusion.

01:09:50.000 And in some ways, Don, it is worse when you have those Republicans in Congress or in D.C. that are going to do what the right thing is 70% of the time, but fail in the 30% that's the most important, because it creates the optical illusion as though we're doing something and placate the people into believing something that actually happened when it didn't.

01:10:06.000 That's worse than somebody who's ideologically opposed to us, because at least then the people know.

01:10:10.000 Here, it's the disguise of it that actually creates the farce and the veneer itself, which comes back to the right three words, shut it down.

01:10:19.000 That's the only answer.

01:10:21.000 We got to have the spine to actually see it through.

01:10:23.000 And without that, any change is going to be an illusion rather than actually the belief that we got something done.

01:10:29.000 There's just going to be placating the people whose feet they lick in convincing you that you did something without actually shutting the darn thing down, which is the only way we're going to restore one standard of the rule of law is turn the whole thing over, not just tinkering around the figureheads.

01:10:44.000 Listen, I'm 100% with you.

01:10:46.000 You see that. I mean, you see that with the Washington Post.

01:10:48.000 You mentioned them. And, you know, they have their sort of intelligence leakers, but the leaks aren't actually real.

01:10:54.000 It's just what the intelligence community wants out there.

01:10:57.000 So when Assange actually publishes the real stuff, and again, given to him by someone, he's the one penalized.

01:11:02.000 And then, listen, they did a little bit to him.

01:11:05.000 It seems like what they tried to do to Trump.

01:11:07.000 Magically, you know, years later.

01:11:08.000 He's a pretty famous guy. He was very popular, whatever it is.

01:11:11.000 And magically, years later, oh, he was accused of, you know, misconduct by some women and this.

01:11:16.000 And, you know, that goes nowhere because it probably wasn't anything because they do these things.

01:11:20.000 I mean, I don't know specifically, but if I had to bet, I would say it's all made up.

01:11:23.000 That's what I would say. Hey, listen, we deal with this too.

01:11:25.000 I bet we're dealing with it this week.

01:11:27.000 30 years ago or so.

01:11:29.000 I can't really remember.

01:11:30.000 But, you know, then you get a New York judge that says, well, you can't show the Anderson Cooper videos or the time she's on Twitter and, you know, talking about rape being sexy. 0.98

01:11:39.000 Like, anyone with a brain realizes it's nonsense, but guess what?

01:11:43.000 Like, a jury in New York, even if there was a conservative on there, which there probably isn't, they see it, it's like, well, I'd never be able to leave my apartment again if I do this.

01:11:51.000 So... There's nothing they won't weaponize, which is why you do have to shut it all down, because it's 100% accurate.

01:11:58.000 And I'm worried right now that a lot of this is playing out through the Republican Party itself.

01:12:07.000 And I was vocal about this in the late stages of the race, and I know that it may even...

01:12:12.000 Some people in your orbit, uncomfortable for me speaking the truth, but I think we've got to see it.

01:12:17.000 I'm worried for this country, and I'm worried for your father, I'm worried for your family, and I'm worried for your country, our country.

01:12:25.000 Because, look, the very people who are actually paying for those lawsuits against your father, who are they propping up, actually?

01:12:33.000 It's not even Joe Biden. It's not Gavin Newsom.

01:12:37.000 It's Nikki Haley.

01:12:38.000 And so that's why I think it is...

01:12:40.000 Vital, Don, for the country that this race end on what day is? 1.00

01:12:46.000 Tuesday at the New Hampshire primary.

01:12:49.000 Because my concern, and when I was a candidate, Even people in the MAGA movement and people in, you know, Trump's own orbit, I think, didn't relish me saying this.

01:13:00.000 But it's the truth, and I'm gonna stand by it.

01:13:03.000 I am worried that what they want to do is to narrow this to a two-horse race between Nikki and your father, Use some sort of whatever means necessary, whatever it is, to take your father out of contention and trot their puppet into the White House under the optical illusion that it was a Republican, so they weren't even partisan about it, when that Republican, I think, is actually arguably more dangerous than many Democrats that you and I both know.

01:13:26.000 It's Hillary Clinton dressed up for Halloween as a conservative.

01:13:29.000 Absolutely. And with a stronger pro-pointless war agenda, with a surveillance state imagination that even Jack Smith didn't have, tying your social media accounts to your government-issued ID to spy on you if you're criticizing a war in Ukraine, that if you're criticizing your American journalist in Ukraine, you end up in prison and they kill you.

01:13:44.000 But what's coming here now?

01:13:46.000 I don't think that that's an exaggeration.

01:13:48.000 It's Dick Cheney on steroids.

01:13:51.000 And I think that it is...

01:13:53.000 What I will say is part of the reason I dropped out when I did, you know, we were at 8% in Iowa, it would have been a reasonable thing, and I think would have done similarly in New Hampshire, is I think a lot of my vote goes to Trump, and I think correctly so.

01:14:06.000 And actually, you know, we're representing the only two candidates that actually did represent the same movement, True America First Principles.

01:14:11.000 If you look at who was the second choice to your father, I actually was way ahead of DeSantis and Haley both on all of the polling.

01:14:17.000 But I stepped out because I think it's important that this race end In New Hampshire. 1.00

01:14:23.000 And I would sort of say if Ron DeSantis did have the guts to drop out and endorse your father before New Hampshire too, I'd say put the whole last year behind water under the bridge and give him credit for doing the right thing too, because that too would be a, I think, admirable and honorable move for the country.

01:14:40.000 I say this was hard for me to do, and I empathize.

01:14:43.000 No, I get it, man. And I see it, and I get that it's fair.

01:14:45.000 He should do that, too. There's guys we attacked a lot in 16.

01:14:49.000 I actually have great relationships with them.

01:14:53.000 It's one of the problems with the primary process, but it's a necessary evil in a certain way.

01:14:56.000 But Nikki Haley I put in a different category than that, though.

01:14:58.000 This is not just friendly jousting.

01:15:00.000 This is antithetical to the country if this woman gets anywhere near the levers of power. 1.00

01:15:04.000 I don't mean she's president. I mean anywhere near the levers of power. 0.76

01:15:07.000 And so I just think it's vital.

01:15:09.000 It's why I dropped out. I think it'd be a good thing if Ron did the same thing.

01:15:12.000 I think that the America First movement should re-embrace Ron if he does that.

01:15:16.000 If he doesn't, I think that's a problem.

01:15:17.000 I think that that actually is setting up for a real problem going forward if this margin in New Hampshire isn't wide enough to end this race.

01:15:25.000 But I stand by what I said in my last month in the race.

01:15:29.000 I am worried that there is a plot hiding in plain sight.

01:15:34.000 And what I said on the day that I stepped down from that stage is, I'm worried that absent things we should never want to see happen in this country, that there's no path for me.

01:15:44.000 And that's why I stepped out so that we can focus on doing the right thing.

01:15:49.000 But I think it's really important that this race not continue past next Tuesday in New Hampshire, because if it does, I think that there are insidious forces at work that I believe have made it hell-bent that they want to trot a puppet who they can control into the White House. 0.93

01:16:04.000 And it's up to us as citizens to make sure that doesn't happen.

01:16:07.000 And I think that's every bit as important as any other part of the agenda we've talked about right here.

01:16:12.000 And I'm all in for the country to make sure that that happens.

01:16:15.000 Well, I appreciate it.

01:16:17.000 And you are. And thank you for all your help with that.

01:16:19.000 I look forward to actually spending a lot more time.

01:16:21.000 There's so many ideas. So much more I want to talk to you about eventually, you know, sort of the patriot economy, more about Strive, some of the other businesses that are out there.

01:16:28.000 Because I think, you know, again, you cut off the dollars and it changes things dramatically as well.

01:16:32.000 And it's not just playing in the political field or through the executive branch or the legislative branch.

01:16:37.000 But, you know, real Americans can make a difference there for playing that right.

01:16:41.000 And obviously you bring a lot of advice and experience to that, that I want other Americans to understand.

01:16:47.000 And so would love to have you back on, man.

01:16:48.000 I look forward to seeing you out on the road.

01:16:51.000 I know you had a hard out. But I really appreciate everything, Vivek.

01:16:54.000 And I think, honestly, just reading the comments, people get it, man.

01:16:59.000 They see you made a lot of friends tonight.

01:17:01.000 They understand people that were skeptical.

01:17:03.000 One guy, actually, I saw the comment.

01:17:04.000 It was funny. You got to change your last name to Magaswamy.

01:17:08.000 So just in case.

01:17:10.000 Listen, you didn't want to change your name.

01:17:12.000 I think that was a compliment. You did. I think that's a pretty good one.

01:17:14.000 That was a pretty solid compliment.

01:17:16.000 Maybe we could talk about this next time, too, is I get, you know, when people think, oh, there's some guy out of nowhere, you know, what are his intentions and who this is?

01:17:24.000 There's some skepticism. I think there's two things.

01:17:26.000 One is do your actual, like, I mean, homework a little bit.

01:17:29.000 I mean, I didn't really come out of nowhere, but functioning politics did.

01:17:33.000 But at a certain point... We have to, you know, we got a country to save, and so channel that to a good place.

01:17:40.000 But as long as we're actually marching in the same direction to get this done, we should have the conversation next time about the patriot economy and about the capital markets to drive this change, too.

01:17:49.000 So I'm going to be in New Hampshire.

01:17:50.000 I think I'm at least planning to go to New Hampshire for Tuesday and be helpful as I can on the trail and Great, yeah.

01:17:56.000 I'll be there a bit over the weekend on a Monday and stuff, so our paths will cross there.

01:18:00.000 Otherwise, they will soon enough.

01:18:02.000 But Vivek, I really appreciate it.

01:18:04.000 Guys, I'm going to stick around. I'm going to take some of your questions because I see a lot of them.

01:18:07.000 But I thought that was great, actually.

01:18:10.000 But I am going to stick around.

01:18:11.000 I'm going to take some of your guys' questions.

01:18:15.000 It's interesting. I want to see, has your opinion changed?

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01:20:22.000 I'm going to take your questions for a little bit.

01:20:24.000 I'm going to open it up to the guys on Locals as well and make sure I take care of those questions because I've been on the road so much all over the place.

01:20:30.000 I haven't been able to go live on Locals because by the time I get done with the show, I was in minus 40 in Iowa, so it was brutal.

01:20:39.000 Make sure to get to those questions because it's been a week or so.

01:20:43.000 Let's fire away. You guys got anything good out here for me?

01:20:46.000 So what did you think?

01:20:48.000 I know there was always some skepticism.

01:20:51.000 I see a lot less of it now.

01:20:53.000 You can see, whether you like it or not, the guy has gone down the rabbit hole.

01:21:00.000 He is knowledgeable. He understands the Constitution.

01:21:05.000 Well, what's his foreign policy stance?

01:21:07.000 We didn't even get into it, but it's pretty clear he's anti-war.

01:21:11.000 It seems like he's got very much the Trump foreign policy, which is the opposite of Nikki Haley, who would be in every war, in every country, on every continent imaginable.

01:21:25.000 So I've seen a bunch of Vivek for VP. I like that.

01:21:28.000 And I also saw a bunch of just, you know, make him like the, you know, blow shit up czar, basically. 0.93

01:21:33.000 Like, just get in there and, you know, take down these institutions, by the way, both of which important and interesting. 0.92

01:21:44.000 Vivek's an intellectual MAGA. Yeah.

01:21:47.000 Yeah, no, like I said, you could see he's also a constitutionalist.

01:21:50.000 He gets the real process there.

01:21:54.000 And again, a lot of people don't always understand those things.

01:21:56.000 So he understands what it is, is not going to be bossed around.

01:22:01.000 I thought he did that very well recently.

01:22:05.000 With the media, the way he handled them. 0.98

01:22:06.000 We've got to slow down the live chat because I'm the blow shit up czar. 0.99

01:22:10.000 Someone likes that. Okay, but I can't read these questions because unless it's like four words or less, it's going too fast. 0.67

01:22:15.000 Trump Jr. POTUS when Sr.

01:22:17.000 is done. I appreciate that, guys.

01:22:19.000 That's a great honor.

01:22:22.000 That's a great honor.

01:22:23.000 But, you know, maybe one day.

01:22:25.000 Let's get through this one first, because if we don't, honestly, I don't know that the system's ever recoverable at that point.

01:22:37.000 Do I really trust him?

01:22:39.000 Okay, listen, it's a fair question.

01:22:41.000 Honestly, I think I do.

01:22:43.000 I mean, certainly more so than a lot of the other people that have been out there.

01:22:46.000 I mean, certainly more than Nikki Haley.

01:22:48.000 As you guys know, if you've been watching my show for some time, what I always said was, man, I love everything that he's actually saying.

01:22:55.000 I was pretty clear with you guys.

01:22:57.000 I was like, of the candidates in the race, once I got to hear what he was saying, I was like, he's actually sort of my number two pick after your favorite president, Donald J. Trump.

01:23:07.000 Because of the things.

01:23:08.000 I never saw him really flip-flop, but I also said, hey, I didn't know where he was in 16, you know, in 20, 22, 18, as much.

01:23:18.000 Now, he was running a business. So was I. Guess what?

01:23:20.000 Prior to 16, I've been a lifelong conservative.

01:23:23.000 I'm a huge pro-2A advocate.

01:23:25.000 I was doing those things.

01:23:26.000 I was having those conversations in New York, but I also wasn't all that vocal about it because...

01:23:31.000 It wasn't how I made a living.

01:23:34.000 I wasn't necessarily in that fight.

01:23:35.000 I was a real estate developer in New York.

01:23:38.000 My first political fundraiser ever was for Andrew Cuomo, the former governor of New York, who was running for attorney general.

01:23:45.000 Because guess what? If you're a real estate developer, you have an offering plan.

01:23:49.000 It's a book like this thick that delineates every aspect of the building and what you're selling.

01:23:53.000 And guess who has to sign off on that?

01:23:55.000 The attorney general of New York.

01:23:58.000 We knew him as family friends.

01:23:59.000 I knew his friends. I was like, you know what?

01:24:00.000 Like... That's part of the game.

01:24:04.000 You know, it didn't make me a liberal.

01:24:06.000 Like, it was part of my job, basically, to do those things.

01:24:10.000 So, you know, I wasn't vocally conservative.

01:24:13.000 My friends knew where I stood.

01:24:15.000 So, you know, people could say the same thing about you.

01:24:17.000 Well, where were you before 16?

01:24:18.000 Now, I've been in the game now for seven, eight years, whatever it is.

01:24:22.000 So, you know, I think I've more than proven myself.

01:24:26.000 But... When someone is new and they get into politics, you've got to give them that chance for a runway.

01:24:31.000 Honestly, compared to what I see in DC and what I see from the rhinos out there and stuff like that, I don't know, man.

01:24:38.000 I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt over those clowns that I've seen sell us out each and every time so much.

01:24:50.000 I actually saw this one a lot came up during the chat.

01:24:54.000 Again, I'm looking down because I'm trying to read the comments along the way.

01:24:59.000 I've seen a lot of it, and it's Carson for VP. I was with Ben Carson earlier today, actually, and his wife.

01:25:05.000 Just... Some of the finest human beings anywhere in the world.

01:25:12.000 Brilliant guy.

01:25:14.000 Just nice.

01:25:15.000 I mean, they were there because they went to Melania's mother's funeral.

01:25:20.000 It's... How does our family get-together today, unfortunately?

01:25:25.000 And I think he'd be a wonderful vice president.

01:25:29.000 My only concern with Ben Carson is, is he literally just too nice a human being to enter that world with what they'll try to do to Trump or, frankly, anyone who's MAGA right now or probably anyone at this point?

01:25:41.000 You know, our Secretary of Defense doesn't feel the need to let the Biden administration know that he's going to be in the hospital incapacitated for a week.

01:25:51.000 They don't feel that way because they don't feel they need to report to the executive branch.

01:25:56.000 They no longer report to civilian leadership, the deep state, or the military-industrial complex is totally in charge.

01:26:03.000 So I think he'd be great.

01:26:07.000 I just worry about just the times.

01:26:12.000 He's a gentleman. You're right.

01:26:13.000 I almost think you need someone more vicious than just a gentleman, unfortunately.

01:26:19.000 But... But truly one of the finest human beings ever.

01:26:23.000 So it'd be an awesome choice.

01:26:24.000 I think it'd be great for America.

01:26:26.000 And we'll see.

01:26:30.000 But... Okay, so some people do like Vivek for there.

01:26:38.000 Obviously, you know, and I've said that, that'd be great.

01:26:40.000 And if you can do that or you create the, you know, the blow shit up commission, give them some power to actually get rid of these, you know, again, not just cut off the head of the snake where the next hundred people all amass into the exact same position because they're basically like the Borg at this point.

01:26:59.000 But take some stuff, you know, that would be great.

01:27:04.000 Carol Swain for VP. I don't know.

01:27:06.000 I don't know where she stands politically. I know she's a brilliant woman. 1.00

01:27:10.000 You know, but again, for me, I'm not into just, well, a brilliant woman who happens to be African American. 0.99

01:27:17.000 Like, you know... If that's the right person, I think that's wonderful.

01:27:22.000 I don't want to do the Democrat thing, which is pick an incompetent woman that checks off a couple boxes and be like, we're playing diversity politics. 1.00

01:27:29.000 I think we lose when we start playing that game.

01:27:33.000 It never feels credible.

01:27:34.000 You can get away with that if you're a Democrat, because there's so much more sheep.

01:27:39.000 But... And look what that's got them.

01:27:42.000 Who could have seen it?

01:27:43.000 Kamala Harris, who's polling at 1% in the Democrat primary after spending ungodly amounts of money.

01:27:51.000 An actual VP pick, of course.

01:27:53.000 And now you see that we have a VP that can't complete a sentence.

01:27:57.000 Rick Grinnell for VP. That would drive some people crazy.

01:28:00.000 Listen, there's a lot of...

01:28:01.000 Rick would be... He could be great at state, some sort of diplomatic position, even Secretary of State.

01:28:08.000 That would drive a lot of people crazy, and he'd get things done.

01:28:11.000 He was the guy that called out Germany.

01:28:12.000 He was like, hey, NATO, Germany, you want us to protect you.

01:28:17.000 You also want to give Russia billions of dollars for a pipeline...

01:28:23.000 You're not contributing your share for NATO, but you want us to step it up.

01:28:29.000 I don't understand. That was my father's policy.

01:28:32.000 He delivered those messages and made him unpopular there, but as far as I'm concerned, he was probably...

01:28:38.000 Probably. I'd say he was almost definitely our most aggressive and successful ambassador that way delivering those kinds of things.

01:28:45.000 So he'd be great.

01:28:46.000 Seems everyone loves Rick.

01:28:48.000 He'd be great. Byron Donalds would be great.

01:28:51.000 Well, okay. So next week, we're going to have some fun ones.

01:28:58.000 I had a great time with Byron Donald the other night.

01:29:01.000 He was in Iowa with Wesley Hunt.

01:29:04.000 It was like, Byron, me, Wesley Hunt, Matt Gaetz, Kim, like, you know, whole group.

01:29:08.000 But like... Byron, Wesley, and I, we stayed out late and had a really, really fun time.

01:29:18.000 So Wesley's going to be on the show next week.

01:29:19.000 I'll have Byron on soon.

01:29:22.000 We'll talk about that one because it was pretty funny.

01:29:28.000 It was pretty funny.

01:29:30.000 So is Michelle Obama going to run...

01:29:35.000 Oh, guys, if you're over on Locals and you follow me there and you're on, I'm going to simultaneously do that one.

01:29:42.000 I'm going to make sure to hit your questions.

01:29:43.000 I know I've been a little bit late.

01:29:44.000 I think we've got a lot of people still going there.

01:29:46.000 I'm going to focus on your guys' questions, but I'll see them both.

01:29:50.000 But, you know, if you're over there...

01:29:54.000 Check it out, because it's going to be fun.

01:29:55.000 But, yeah, we're going to have Bongino for VP. Honestly, Dan would be great.

01:30:00.000 He'd also be great in one of those sort of, again, positions to just end nonsense. 0.55

01:30:04.000 I mean, he was a Secret Service agent, law enforcement, like, put him in charge of the FBI and getting rid of the crap down below there.

01:30:09.000 I mean, but there's a lot we could do with Dan, and he's just a great guy.

01:30:17.000 Yeah. Vivek for AG. By the way, I like that.

01:30:21.000 You know, and I know he's a practicing lawyer, so it could actually work.

01:30:24.000 I could see it being a problem with confirmation, because I think there's certain things they sort of expect.

01:30:29.000 Even the Republicans, you know, not even the Republicans.

01:30:31.000 The Republicans are worse than half the Democrats, it seems.

01:30:33.000 But... Certainly an interesting one.

01:30:37.000 Again, whether he has the full legal experience, whatever that means, that they need for confirmation, it's a whole different thing than whether he has the knowledge.

01:30:47.000 He clearly has the knowledge.

01:30:50.000 So that's great.

01:30:54.000 Well, listen, so there's still going to be some haters, but I can't tell sometimes that the haters are also trolls.

01:30:59.000 So, I think Vivek for press secretary.

01:31:02.000 I imagine he'd want something other than that, but man, he'd be good at it.

01:31:10.000 You know, and again, it's not a small role.

01:31:12.000 It's just, you know, it's actually a really important one.

01:31:16.000 You're basically the face of the administration for, you know, for all intents and purposes on a daily basis.

01:31:23.000 And again, like watching him is a big thing.

01:31:29.000 So questions USA now on locals.

01:31:32.000 I'm trying to see. 0.99

01:31:34.000 Blow shit up job. 0.99

01:31:35.000 The butchers are. Yeah, yes. 1.00

01:31:40.000 I probably...

01:31:42.000 Are we having a hard time pulling up the locals' chat on the screen?

01:31:45.000 Alright, so locals put them in there.

01:31:48.000 The team's going to take your questions.

01:31:50.000 They're going to put them up on the screen here because I'm not being...

01:31:53.000 I'm not... I don't know.

01:31:54.000 We moved studios. So this was the thing.

01:31:57.000 So Kim and I were literally working out of our gym doing this.

01:32:00.000 We actually built out a whole new studio so that we could do it more, so we could have eventually couches do a lot more stuff easy in person.

01:32:07.000 So this is literally the first live...

01:32:09.000 Well, I guess second because Kim went earlier. 0.54

01:32:11.000 But... And she had some sound problems, so you guys are really screwed. 0.94

01:32:15.000 I may have to fire my team later on.

01:32:17.000 So if you don't see me for a couple weeks, it's because I fired my team without the foresight of having someone else in the wings.

01:32:23.000 But no, all kidding aside, they're going to throw that stuff up there now.

01:32:27.000 But yeah, the butchers are. 0.99

01:32:30.000 I like that. 0.57

01:32:31.000 And again, I think it probably is slightly more eloquently worded than the Blow Shit Ups are, which, you know, I think is effective, but probably would have a hard time being talked about on national television.

01:32:45.000 So, not that anyone watches national television anymore, because, you know, give Melania some hugs. 0.65

01:32:52.000 I did. You know, it's hard.

01:32:54.000 I went through it with my mother last summer.

01:32:57.000 It's... Yeah, it's never easy, man.

01:33:02.000 Life's not easy. Guess what?

01:33:04.000 That's the reality. Life's not easy.

01:33:06.000 Every time you think it's easy or you think you got it, someone kicks you in the dick and you start from scratch. 0.99

01:33:11.000 Dana White for VP. I see a lot of Tucker. 0.99

01:33:15.000 You understand my position on that one.

01:33:18.000 Tucker for VP. That would be certainly a top two or three for me without question.

01:33:27.000 What are you going to do about Governor Kemp?

01:33:29.000 That's an interesting one because it's clear...

01:33:32.000 It's clear right now there is total impropriety in that office.

01:33:36.000 This is the Fannie Willis Georgia case.

01:33:40.000 It is absolutely lunacy that that could happen.

01:33:45.000 And he could very easily call a commission and look into it.

01:33:48.000 And if he's going to stand by and pretend like this is fine and not, either because he's afraid to do it.

01:33:54.000 If you're a conservative, just wait until they do it to you guys.

01:33:57.000 So... I think it's absolutely insane, and I think it probably destroys any future political aspirations he has, but he is the sitting governor of Georgia, so maybe he knows more than me.

01:34:11.000 It's pretty crazy.

01:34:13.000 It's so flagrant. You hire a divorce attorney, someone who's never criminally prosecuted anyone, To do this, to bring him in.

01:34:22.000 You pay him almost $750,000.

01:34:25.000 You then go on vacations lavishly while having an extramarital affair.

01:34:31.000 On the dime of this, he billed a 24-hour day For some of these things, you know, not even legal in Georgia.

01:34:41.000 It's such a sham, but, you know, Kemp's clearly no fan of my father, so he'll probably let it play out and see if he can hurt him and then, you know, swoop in and be a hero of the Rhinos.

01:34:53.000 But just so we understand, like...

01:34:55.000 No one's going to do well. No rhino has a future in the Republican Party long term at this point.

01:35:00.000 If they're going to be like that, I think it's over.

01:35:03.000 They may have a little bit of tenure.

01:35:05.000 Some of them may even keep getting elected, but that party is over as far as I'm concerned.

01:35:12.000 We need Vivek all over the FDA from Comfort and Joy over on Local.

01:35:16.000 Yes. By the way, that's a great one.

01:35:19.000 You know, what you almost need to do is find someone who gets all of these agencies.

01:35:24.000 You know, you get a Dan Bongino to handle federal law enforcement, FBI, and others.

01:35:29.000 You get a Vivek to do the FDA where he understands all sides of that, the players, the equation, the this.

01:35:34.000 Because you're right. 0.99

01:35:36.000 Just to have a general blow shit up czar... 0.99

01:35:42.000 It's probably too big. 0.98

01:35:43.000 I mean, that's not the kind of thing you could do in eight years or four years or 50 years.

01:35:48.000 You know, you probably need someone at the head of every one of these, you know, arms, extensions of government.

01:35:55.000 And, you know, that's a big deal.

01:35:57.000 So we need to pick up a younger generation of voters. 0.69

01:36:00.000 Well, you know, I hope they see what's going on in the world.

01:36:04.000 You know, I know that they're going to have Taylor Swift out there telling you that Joe Biden's doing a wonderful job and all that stuff.

01:36:09.000 But like, A, Trump actually outperformed in the exit polls.

01:36:13.000 He got more young voters than anyone else.

01:36:16.000 DeSantis was trying to claim that based on entrance polls, but actually voting, Trump actually won that one.

01:36:21.000 I think a guy like Vivek actually speaks to that younger generation.

01:36:26.000 I'm an in-between.

01:36:28.000 I probably think of myself as much younger than I am, but being anti-war, well, guess what?

01:36:33.000 Who's going to fight those wars? My kids.

01:36:36.000 Not me. I'm 46.

01:36:37.000 You know, unless we end up in a Ukraine-type situation where they're sending, you know, 45-year-old-plus conscripts like they are over there because the whole thing's ridiculous. 0.58

01:36:46.000 You know, I'm not going there, but I have five young kids.

01:36:49.000 Uh... You know, 16 to 9.

01:36:53.000 And, you know, they're going to be fighting those wars.

01:36:57.000 I don't know. You want Nikki Haley? 0.75

01:36:59.000 That's wonderful. You want a Democrat like Joe Biden who's gotten us into, like, all those messes?

01:37:04.000 Or whose weakness has encouraged others to start these messes?

01:37:07.000 I don't know. That seems kind of obvious.

01:37:08.000 How about interest rates?

01:37:10.000 You want to ever own your own house?

01:37:12.000 An apartment? You know...

01:37:14.000 We probably don't do a great messaging job. 0.98

01:37:18.000 You'd be one hell of a sniper.

01:37:19.000 Well, thank you, Jordan. I would be, actually. 0.61

01:37:21.000 I'd be damn good at that.

01:37:23.000 I don't do much well, but I shoot long-range accurately.

01:37:27.000 It's a skill set, but, you know, we'll see.

01:37:30.000 You never know. Okay.

01:37:32.000 Hey, at this rate, if Joe Biden wins, you never know.

01:37:35.000 Maybe that happens.

01:37:37.000 But, you know, I think kids have to look at reality.

01:37:39.000 You see that. Like, a lot of the rappers coming up, you're like, I'm done with Biden.

01:37:42.000 Like, because there's only so many times, you know, how many times can you cry wolf and tell people you're going to do something for them and fail them across every spectrum?

01:37:51.000 Like, people are waking up and they're sick of it.

01:37:54.000 And the bigger thing with Trump is they saw their own prosperity during the first Trump administration.

01:37:59.000 Then they saw it all disappear immediately.

01:38:01.000 Like that. That's a big deal.

01:38:04.000 That's a big deal. But I think a guy like Ovec can speak to that younger generation.

01:38:07.000 I think he did a really good job with that.

01:38:09.000 I think that's important.

01:38:11.000 And I think you need all of these people out there willing to fight those fronts.

01:38:14.000 You're not putting Mitch McConnell out there to pick up a younger generation.

01:38:17.000 I think Trump is an anomaly in that, you know, with his age, he can still speak to those young guys because he's funny.

01:38:23.000 He's personable. He makes you laugh.

01:38:25.000 He's the guy you want to have a beer with.

01:38:27.000 Oh, I love that one.

01:38:29.000 KingDavidADFE. Sean Strickland for VP. Or I think...

01:38:34.000 No, sorry. For press secretary.

01:38:36.000 Yes. I think...

01:38:39.000 I think Monday's show, we're going to do something where, like, just so much happened this week, you know, that we didn't cover.

01:38:44.000 I know Vivek had a clean hour for us tonight, but normally I want to do, you know, sort of news of the week and, you know, go through that.

01:38:50.000 I think I may just do, like, an ad-lib show on Monday.

01:38:53.000 Is that what we're doing? Okay.

01:38:54.000 Where I'm just going to go through all the news of the week.

01:38:56.000 Make sure to put that one on the list because...

01:38:59.000 Guess what? If you put that interview up on Rumble or on YouTube, it wouldn't work.

01:39:03.000 On Rumble, it's just fine. But Sean Strickland, you know, they tried getting him into this got you like LBGTQIA++++ bullshit question. 0.98

01:39:12.000 And he literally just owned... 0.99

01:39:15.000 These people. It was awesome.

01:39:18.000 And honestly, if everyone handled the press like Dana White, maybe DJT, and Sean Strickland, guess what? 1.00

01:39:26.000 They would stop pulling their bullshit. 1.00

01:39:28.000 And the problem is when they pull their bullshit... 1.00

01:39:31.000 It actually turns into, like, the gospel because no one contests it, so they believe a lie is a fact. 1.00

01:39:35.000 You know, DeSantis sort of walked into that at the town hall this week where he's like, you know, CNN, the people that drowned at the border!

01:39:42.000 It's like, it didn't happen.

01:39:43.000 It was retracted.

01:39:45.000 The fact that he got up on stage, was asked a question about something, and no one informed him that, like, it was all a lie.

01:39:52.000 And, you know, they get what they want out of it, but it was nonsense.

01:39:54.000 It was such a missed opportunity. 0.98

01:39:56.000 His team did a shitty job, you know, prepping him for that. 0.85

01:39:59.000 But it's like, But it happens a lot. 0.94

01:40:01.000 People don't know. You just assume what they're telling you is the gospel as opposed to their dreams and hopes with maybe half a percent of truth of something.

01:40:10.000 In this case, there was nothing, but it doesn't matter.

01:40:13.000 And then it becomes, well, he said it.

01:40:15.000 It's on TV. It's based off of a lie.

01:40:18.000 It's like so much of what we've seen.

01:40:20.000 Russia, Russia, Russia. Well, Adam Schiff, the head of the Intelligence Committee, he's literally seen the evidence, folks.

01:40:26.000 Remember that? He's seen the evidence.

01:40:27.000 It's like, well, still waiting, folks.

01:40:29.000 Like, where is it? I mean, he could have put me in jail for life or wanted to try me with a death penalty, so let's go.

01:40:35.000 Where is it? Remember, I did 50 hours of testimony for that one.

01:40:39.000 Baby Hunter doesn't have to do anything.

01:40:42.000 So it's a little different.

01:40:44.000 So Robert Barnes for AG, that'd be a good one.

01:40:47.000 Rand Paul for VP. Rand Paul, by the way, is a good one on the waste stuff as well.

01:40:54.000 So I see some Christy Noem.

01:40:57.000 Let's see. So we're working on the younger generation.

01:41:03.000 But again, I think they got to understand what this current administration means for them.

01:41:08.000 I mean, you know, I saw some interviews.

01:41:10.000 It's like, I really care about your transit.

01:41:14.000 I'm like, man, like, wait till you get into life and your parents aren't paying for you.

01:41:22.000 That's a good idea. My buddy George from BTE, battle test equipment over in Arizona, triggered special from SHOT Show.

01:41:33.000 I hadn't thought about that, but there's going to be some good people over there.

01:41:37.000 And I'm going to be there midweek, so...

01:41:40.000 We may have to rearrange next week and figure some of that out because that could make sense.

01:41:49.000 And I know a lot of good friends that are going to be there.

01:41:52.000 We could have some fun with that one.

01:41:55.000 Good idea, George. I like that.

01:41:58.000 I'm going to be a shot, so I'm sure there'll be a bunch of people there that could be fun and cool.

01:42:04.000 I don't know.

01:42:06.000 I'm trying to think who came to the last field ethos party.

01:42:09.000 You had Dan Henderson over there.

01:42:11.000 It always comes to that. You had a bunch of the athletes.

01:42:13.000 You had a bunch of the The great operators.

01:42:15.000 Rob O'Neill's usually there. He's a buddy.

01:42:17.000 Some of these guys hung out a bunch.

01:42:20.000 I imagine like Evan Hafer, Matt Best from Black Rifle Coffee.

01:42:24.000 They'll be there. They're good. We could actually do something pretty fun there.

01:42:31.000 Tory's Iran powerful. 0.95

01:42:33.000 Jay Sekulow for Attorney Journal will come from Joy over there.

01:42:38.000 DeSantis is a real shame. He was great in Florida.

01:42:40.000 Yeah. That's the problem, man.

01:42:42.000 You can be good in Florida. Even a big state like Florida, you can do that, but then you get into the big leagues and the national interests get involved and start funding you, and that's when they own your ass, and that's the problem with the system. 0.99

01:42:56.000 It's... Oh, yeah. 0.98

01:42:58.000 Rick Harrison from Pawn Stars.

01:43:01.000 He's a buddy. He'd be funny as hell on the show.

01:43:05.000 We could actually bang out a bunch of shows next week.

01:43:07.000 We have to go live every night.

01:43:10.000 A bunch of times I try to get some in the bag.

01:43:13.000 If I know I'm going to be traveling or on the road, it's like I just need something that's evergreen.

01:43:17.000 But the world changes so quickly, so rapidly that it's like sometimes I don't...

01:43:22.000 I do it and it's a great interview for that day.

01:43:26.000 A week later, even if the stuff that's kind of evergreen, it's never quite as good.

01:43:34.000 So... Tate, well, Andrew's a friend of mine, and Tristan, you know, they came over and saw me at Trump Tower in, like, 2015.

01:43:42.000 I was, like, following them.

01:43:43.000 I thought it was just hilarious. I'm, like, way before they put Andrew Tate somewhere, anywhere.

01:43:49.000 That's funny. So, yeah, you know, I think, honestly, they're smart.

01:43:54.000 I'd ask, like... Last time I spoke to him, this is even before... 0.98

01:43:58.000 By the way, this is before the Romania bullshit. 0.90

01:44:00.000 He was like, honestly, I just don't trust going to the United States now. 0.98

01:44:02.000 I just see myself being targeted unjustly.

01:44:05.000 And then it literally happened that way in Romania.

01:44:09.000 So, listen, I love Eastern Europe.

01:44:12.000 Maybe I have to go over there and hang out with those guys.

01:44:16.000 But like I said, I always had a good relationship.

01:44:18.000 And it's weird. You keep falling for these same things.

01:44:22.000 And I... It's strange.

01:44:25.000 It's what I always talk about with General Flynn, where it was like, well, the CIA said he did this, and the FBI said he did this.

01:44:31.000 I was like, man, I know the guy pretty good.

01:44:32.000 It doesn't sound like—it doesn't make any sense.

01:44:35.000 It doesn't line up, but there has to be some truth to this.

01:44:37.000 So you see this stuff.

01:44:39.000 He's trafficking children.

01:44:40.000 I'm like, that's the end of the line.

01:44:42.000 So I'm like, come on. It's got to be—but you also—like, if it's not, you could—so you— You just stay silent, or you don't address it, or you don't go in there.

01:44:51.000 So I was pretty quick to jump back on that, like, this sounds like bullshit.

01:44:54.000 But all of these things are designed specifically to do just that, to take other people out of the game. 0.67

01:45:02.000 Now, you know, Andrew Tate clearly doesn't need anyone to defend him.

01:45:05.000 He's pretty damn good at it himself.

01:45:08.000 But you can see when they're jumping on.

01:45:11.000 And, you know, at this point, I just don't trust anything that anyone throws.

01:45:14.000 It took... Me, my father, I'm a late adapter.

01:45:18.000 What they did to Flynn, and then ultimately Tate for me to be like, I just don't trust anyone in any one of these systems at this point.

01:45:25.000 So, that'll be Don Jr.

01:45:30.000 vs. Hunter MMA. Just, you know, let me know.

01:45:32.000 If we can raise some money for charity, we'll have some fun.

01:45:37.000 Will Cash be working?

01:45:38.000 Cash obviously would be a great person in there somewhere.

01:45:44.000 He gets it. He knows where the bodies are buried.

01:45:46.000 He knows what they'd be hiding. Is your check slowed up?

01:45:50.000 Scroll back down. Something about, is your check, Bomão, somehow related to your check, Grandma?

01:46:01.000 I don't know. You know?

01:46:04.000 Troll person? Maybe. 0.59

01:46:06.000 If they're checked, possibly.

01:46:07.000 Who knows? Can we bring Fauci to justice?

01:46:12.000 I think that'd be a great start. God knows we need it.

01:46:15.000 I mean, I can't think of someone who pulled the wool over the eyes of the American people, you know, more than that.

01:46:22.000 And for, honestly, not just the last few years, but for the last, like, 40 years, it seems.

01:46:29.000 Tucker for FCC chairman.

01:46:31.000 That'd be a good one. I love Tucker for VP because you guys understand that selfishly all I want to see is the Tucker Carlson Kamala Harris vice presidential debate.

01:46:41.000 You understand that, right? Not that he wouldn't, like I said, I've been very clear, he's my first, maybe second or third, he's clearly top two or three, probably number one, but...

01:46:55.000 He would be anyway, but that's really the icing on the cake.

01:46:59.000 Although, listen, I would love to see Vivek debate Kamala on real issues.

01:47:07.000 Honestly, I think anyone could actually debate Kamala Harris at this point. 0.99

01:47:11.000 The verbal diarrhea, word salad crap that comes out of her mouth on every speech. 0.99

01:47:16.000 It's like someone's writing that speech. 0.99

01:47:17.000 I think, listen, the left has done an incredible job of infiltrating every aspect of Of our government, every institution, every item of pop culture.

01:47:27.000 But some conservative, some conservative got into the Biden administration and became Kamala Harris's speechwriter. 0.92

01:47:36.000 Not that they're writing conservative stuff, but that the crap that they string together cannot possibly be done by someone who's a Democrat. 0.96

01:47:45.000 It's literally impossible to imagine that Kamala looks drunk now. 0.99

01:47:51.000 You think she's been drinking? And Tucker would be on Fox again.

01:47:56.000 Oh! Cutter, that's amazing!

01:47:59.000 Or is that T. Lin B.? Okay.

01:48:03.000 Dude, imagine that.

01:48:05.000 Tucker as VP or press secretary just to force Fox to put him on again.

01:48:11.000 That would blow up their minds.

01:48:13.000 I know this as someone who was on Fox almost every day myself for years, and then I've been blackballed for like a year and a half.

01:48:20.000 But yes, that would be...

01:48:21.000 Just make them do it.

01:48:23.000 Paul Ryan over there at the Fox board meeting would be losing his mind.

01:48:28.000 That would be incredible.

01:48:30.000 Yeah, the Kamala comments are pretty hilarious.

01:48:35.000 What was that one?

01:48:36.000 Would the VP decision ultimately be made by family?

01:48:40.000 Is the VP decision ultimately...

01:48:42.000 Oh, how is the VP decision made ultimately?

01:48:44.000 The family. Okay, so this is an interesting one.

01:48:47.000 Uh... We did this in, you know, I guess after the convention in 16, and, you know, we were actually pretty involved.

01:48:55.000 I mean, you know, I know it was, you know, hey, at that time, you know, Chris Christie was in the running, and I sort of...

01:49:02.000 Shut that one down. Just basically being, hey, we already have a pirate. 0.94

01:49:08.000 We don't need two pirates. That would just be a disaster, and you can clearly see that I nailed that one.

01:49:15.000 The other people that were in there were Newt Gingrich and Pence.

01:49:21.000 And I think Gingrich would have been great.

01:49:23.000 Sean Hannity was pushing that one very hard, and I spent a lot of time with Sean back in those days, you know, talking about it.

01:49:29.000 And, you know, we did it, and we sat down with him and Callisto, and we actually did it while traveling to go see Pence as well.

01:49:38.000 And it was almost like a family interview.

01:49:41.000 And... He's brilliant.

01:49:46.000 My sort of breakout moment in politics in 16 was really my Republican National Convention speech where they were like, Don Jr.

01:49:53.000 for president soon. And I'd spent a lot of time on this speech, worked on it hard, tried delivering it right, and I showed it to him.

01:50:01.000 We're literally on a plane going to Indiana, and he was traveling with us, and we're meeting with him, and we're meeting with Pence, and I go...

01:50:08.000 You know what? I got, like, the former Speaker of the House, you know, sort of a brilliant, you know, tacticianer as it relates to politics, like someone who's been doing this much longer.

01:50:16.000 I'd been in politics all of, like, four months at this point.

01:50:18.000 I was like, maybe I should take this couple minutes and have him look at my speech.

01:50:22.000 And he read it. Like, spent, like, 15 minutes, like...

01:50:24.000 And he goes, that is a really good speech.

01:50:26.000 And he just goes... Take every four and five syllable word in there and make it two.

01:50:34.000 And I was like, he was like, this speech, just, you know, it probably uses the word, you know, dumb it down.

01:50:40.000 But just make it that everyone gets every word, that there's no one, you know, wondering, you know.

01:50:45.000 And I was like, You know, I think I have a decent vocabulary, though.

01:50:52.000 Don't always use it as much anymore, but I've adapted that mentality.

01:50:57.000 And, you know, I did that, and it was like, it was sort of a launch point for me.

01:51:04.000 So, you know, he was brilliant, and we're sitting there, and, you know, but, you know, he'd been very successful in the private sector after years and decades in government and everything like that, and I was sort of So I'd have to stop doing X. I'd have to stop doing Y. And I literally just asked the question pretty bluntly.

01:51:21.000 I just said, you know, sir, do you actually want the job?

01:51:25.000 He's like, no, it'd be an honor to serve it.

01:51:27.000 I go, no, no, no. There's a difference between...

01:51:29.000 I understand, you know, the honor of it, but do you actually want it?

01:51:33.000 Because there is a difference. And he was like, you know what?

01:51:38.000 That's actually a really good question.

01:51:40.000 And so that was sort of where he's like...

01:51:43.000 I'm not sure I want to change my life and get back into that world right now.

01:51:49.000 So he's been a great friend.

01:51:52.000 He's great out there.

01:51:53.000 But it was an interesting one.

01:51:56.000 When we met with the Pence's, that one was interesting as well.

01:52:00.000 Very humble.

01:52:02.000 It was actually sort of a great one at the time.

01:52:06.000 You know, before we knew how vicious it would get, before we knew the lies, it was sort of like, okay, it was a little bit yin and yang.

01:52:10.000 You almost had like an opposite, you know, of my father in many ways.

01:52:15.000 And so, yeah, so it was interesting.

01:52:18.000 We sat there and we had breakfast at the governor's mansion and they were just nice people and they didn't have like this, you know, crazy staff like you see, you know, with a lot of governors.

01:52:25.000 I was like, you know, these are kind of...

01:52:27.000 Kind of like our people, very different, but also good.

01:52:34.000 Like I said, for the most part, I think that was the right call at that time.

01:52:40.000 At this time, it's different.

01:52:43.000 Now we've seen what they're willing to do.

01:52:45.000 Now we've seen them weaponize every aspect of government.

01:52:47.000 Now we've seen the just depravity, the evil, the viciousness, the willingness to just flagrantly disregard our laws and our systems.

01:52:57.000 And now you need someone a little bit more of an animal, in my opinion.

01:53:04.000 Donnie is driving home from work now.

01:53:06.000 Great show. Okay, so you...

01:53:08.000 By the way, do any of you guys get it on Spotify or Apple Podcasts, like iTunes Podcasts?

01:53:16.000 Do any of you guys do that or not?

01:53:18.000 Because I'm always wondering if people do or if they just watch it here or on Rumble and whatever.

01:53:24.000 Yeah. So I'm just kind of curious.

01:53:26.000 I know I do the push there. I try to get it there because I want to get it out as much as I can.

01:53:29.000 I do so much driving and flying that sometimes it's easier to listen.

01:53:33.000 I can't always stream. So do any of you guys do it that way?

01:53:42.000 So Steph says no, but not really.

01:53:45.000 All right, the locals people, I can see that, especially if you're on locals there.

01:53:50.000 You had one iTunes on locals?

01:53:52.000 Okay. William, only here on Rumble.

01:53:57.000 Okay, so all the locals, folks, seem like they're pretty wed to Rumble.

01:54:03.000 Actually, it seems like almost everyone is.

01:54:05.000 By the way, I get that.

01:54:07.000 It was sort of interesting. I see some of the other podcasts that are out there and where they get ranked in these stores and stuff like that.

01:54:12.000 I'm always like, dude, I look at our numbers.

01:54:14.000 I'm like, dude, we crushed that.

01:54:15.000 Now, I am only on two days a week.

01:54:17.000 A lot of those shows are sort of, you know, five days a week.

01:54:19.000 So that is a little different, I guess.

01:54:21.000 And so I was just wondering, but it is...

01:54:23.000 That's interesting.

01:54:25.000 So it seems like... And that makes total sense, by the way.

01:54:27.000 Like, the Rumble crowd is...

01:54:30.000 Very Rumble.

01:54:33.000 It's, you know, you're away from other big tech, even, you know, obviously Apple or Spotify that, you know, where there's more of that bias.

01:54:40.000 So that's kind of, that's interesting.

01:54:44.000 Any other, anyone else you watch on Rumble via Roku?

01:54:50.000 That's interesting. You get like the big screen version?

01:54:54.000 Okay, then. Yeah, so what I want to do now that we have the new studio, I want to do like a wall where, you know, I have a little bit of my stuff, like, you know, get a couple deer heads on the wall, maybe some old guns, have a little bit more fun with that.

01:55:05.000 That way for, not for everyone, but for some people, we can have, you know, sort of the outdoor conversations and break it up a little bit from the politics.

01:55:14.000 Is anyone interested in that?

01:55:16.000 So I'm asking both chats.

01:55:18.000 Yeah. I mean, obviously, it started off sort of as Alex Jones press secretary.

01:55:24.000 Obviously, that'd be like, you know, just even for like two weeks, just to humble those bastards. 0.97

01:55:31.000 But so anyone interested in that idea of like, yeah, like a rugged cabin look? 0.98

01:55:37.000 Because honestly, that's basically me, you know, in my free time.

01:55:41.000 So would you?

01:55:44.000 Okay, see a bunch of yes.

01:55:47.000 Literally, you know, talk hunting, fishing, the outdoors with some of those people.

01:55:50.000 Maybe some of the good shooters out there.

01:55:53.000 You know, tell those kind of, you know, campfire stories.

01:55:56.000 Uncle Ted campfire time.

01:55:58.000 That would be fun. Yeah.

01:56:00.000 Okay. Always down to talk outdoorsy shit. 1.00

01:56:04.000 Maybe we even just do that like as a once a week kind of thing and add another show. 0.99

01:56:08.000 We've been talking to a couple people. They're like...

01:56:11.000 Some people want me to go five days a week.

01:56:12.000 I love the idea, but I also know I'm on the road so much, it's not the easiest thing in the world.

01:56:17.000 So, trying to figure that one out.

01:56:22.000 You'll watch with any background.

01:56:23.000 Okay, so that's a question for you. Does background matter?

01:56:26.000 Does anyone give a shit? Seriously, no, I mean... 0.99

01:56:30.000 I understand that I am a sexy bitch. 0.99

01:56:34.000 I can look good for you guys here on the show, but I don't put makeup on. 0.98

01:56:38.000 I don't do what I did when I was going on TV a lot, because honestly, it's just sort of me.

01:56:43.000 It's natural. I come in here a couple minutes before we go live, and I go.

01:56:48.000 So I try to keep it real that way.

01:56:50.000 I think sometimes you...

01:56:54.000 Honestly, you could try too hard.

01:56:57.000 If you're spending too much time thinking about what you're going to be talking about, it actually sounds...

01:57:01.000 Don't hang a rainbow flag. 0.96

01:57:05.000 Don't you worry. It's fine.

01:57:07.000 And I've been very clear, as you know, I don't give a crap what you do. 1.00

01:57:11.000 Just stay the fuck away from our kids. 1.00

01:57:14.000 Leave me alone. Rick Grinnell, who seems to be pretty popular in this feed... 1.00

01:57:18.000 First gay guy that was a director of national intelligence.

01:57:22.000 But no one cares because it's not about that.

01:57:26.000 He's just competent and good.

01:57:29.000 Yes, more... There are people that want more of the outdoor stories.

01:57:34.000 So I think we could have some get with grand thumb at shot.

01:57:37.000 That could be fun. There's some people that say no.

01:57:42.000 Well, maybe we just do it as like a third show a week and we do like one show outdoors.

01:57:46.000 That way you guys can choose. I don't know.

01:57:50.000 I'm just trying to adapt to you guys.

01:57:53.000 But backgrounds are not necessary. 0.98

01:57:55.000 So you don't give a shit. Okay, because that's interesting. 0.98

01:57:57.000 I wasn't sure with the live video, does it matter?

01:58:01.000 Nugent for ATF? Yes.

01:58:04.000 Yes, that would be great.

01:58:08.000 Alina Habba for Attorney General.

01:58:09.000 That's interesting. Some people want to personalize the wall, but I think we now have a full studio, so there's four walls.

01:58:17.000 I could do that on one of the walls or one of the corners or something like that where I could do that...

01:58:23.000 Literally, I told them to build the room.

01:58:25.000 They better have put it in here.

01:58:26.000 I have not been... I've been on the road so much.

01:58:28.000 I haven't been paying so much attention.

01:58:29.000 I literally wanted to... I told them, hey, I want like an HVAC system that sucks out so that I can have cigars while doing the podcast because they make it more enjoyable for me.

01:58:40.000 It could be kind of fun.

01:58:42.000 Not that I would do it every time because I... I'm sort of an all-or-nothing guy.

01:58:46.000 I got to kind of keep my vices to a limit.

01:58:49.000 But, you know, it could be fun.

01:58:52.000 So they should have done it.

01:58:53.000 I want to do it. But, all right, so you guys like that?

01:58:58.000 No one, background and wardrobe does matter, but not so much on a conscious level.

01:59:03.000 Find your brand. Rugged world work.

01:59:06.000 Yeah, it's interesting. I just do this because I almost never wear a tie.

01:59:12.000 I try to avoid it.

01:59:13.000 But some things I do need to wear a suit.

01:59:15.000 But the reality is I actually...

01:59:16.000 I was wearing Carhartts like 25 years before Carhartts were for people who don't actually work.

01:59:27.000 It's like Stanley, right?

01:59:29.000 I had Stanley thermoses way before Yeti and way before they became the symbol of rich, white, suburban women. 1.00

01:59:41.000 Listen, I understand companies, you rebrand, but it's like...

01:59:44.000 I have Carhartts that are older than most of the people who are now wearing Carhartt.

01:59:50.000 And they're still holding up.

01:59:52.000 I'm seeing some of these women... 1.00

01:59:54.000 None of the people that wear Carhartt these days, other than maybe the construction workers who still wear it by default, but the average person I see wearing Carhartt these days definitely does not do any Carhartt shit whatsoever. 0.95

02:00:06.000 So it's interesting. But as a business guy, I understand it. 0.83

02:00:08.000 You got to expand your brand.

02:00:10.000 Other people expanded into workwear.

02:00:12.000 They didn't have the monopoly on it anymore between Dickies and all that stuff. 0.91

02:00:14.000 So I was like, maybe it changed.

02:00:17.000 So... Yeah, you had Stanley, too.

02:00:22.000 Like, I had, like, Stanley when it was green, not before it was, like, fluorescent pink.

02:00:25.000 You know, when it was, like, the traditional green Stanley.

02:00:28.000 I have a Stanley mug in my office.

02:00:29.000 It was, like, one of the original, like, Cerakote.

02:00:32.000 Like, it's literally, like...

02:00:34.000 You see more steel than you do the original coating because it's all been just chipped off over decades.

02:00:43.000 It's funny, now I'm seeing the Stanley Cups.

02:00:45.000 I'm seeing dudes with big pink Stanley Cups.

02:00:48.000 I'm saying, what's going on here?

02:00:52.000 Yeah, Levi's used to be good too.

02:00:53.000 They got a little bit woke. 1.00

02:00:54.000 Carhartt went woke as fuck. I guess that was the, you know, they did that. 0.99

02:01:01.000 So, I don't know.

02:01:03.000 I think, yeah, that's an interesting one.

02:01:05.000 But hey, listen, I respect if you go to a different, you know, genre or you change what you need to do or you rebrand

02:01:13.000 or reposition uh to to be a business

02:01:16.000 That may make sense if your other markets dried up or you see another opportunity. I think that's smart. I think you

02:01:21.000 know I see teenage girls wearing Carhartt right now. I'm saying

02:01:25.000 i'm not sure You know what that ever stood for but you know, I get it

02:01:29.000 If they're selling more stuff, that's probably a good business decision.

02:01:32.000 Locals. Okay, best Senate candidates.

02:01:35.000 Best pick for press secretary.

02:01:37.000 Well, I mean, you got Alex Jones, you got Ted Nugent.

02:01:41.000 Some of the suggestions would be great, certainly for a temporary one.

02:01:45.000 Best Senate candidates.

02:01:48.000 Right now, I'm a big fan of Bernie Moreno over in Ohio.

02:01:54.000 He's running in what will be a...

02:01:57.000 Hopefully we can flip that and get a Republican seat.

02:02:00.000 He's endorsed by my father, by me, but also by J.D. Vance, who was my best pick I think Bernie Moreno would be amazing.

02:02:30.000 I'm good friends with Governor Jim Justice down in West Virginia.

02:02:34.000 I know he's running for Senate there.

02:02:37.000 He's just a super successful business guy.

02:02:40.000 He gets it. He was basically a former Democrat because he had to be in West Virginia.

02:02:44.000 There was no—you know, the blue-collar guy, even the successful one, if you—you know, farming and— You know, you were a Democrat.

02:02:53.000 He literally, we went turkey hunting and a week later, he switched parties and ran as a Republican and has been delivering in West Virginia.

02:03:01.000 So, you know, hey, listen, we got to welcome all of these things.

02:03:04.000 I think he was basically, you know, a West Virginia Democrat ain't...

02:03:07.000 It's not like an L.A. Democrat.

02:03:09.000 It was basically, you know, that was the party of the blue-collar worker.

02:03:12.000 Trump took that over.

02:03:14.000 It's now the Republican Party, and it's very different.

02:03:17.000 But, you know, I'd love to see him in a Senate seat in West Virginia after doing what he did, you know, in West Virginia in the governor's mansion.

02:03:30.000 Who else do I got to think about?

02:03:31.000 I got to...

02:03:34.000 Oh, Carrie. Yeah, sorry.

02:03:36.000 Obviously. Jesus, I was with her yesterday, too.

02:03:39.000 Yeah, Carrie Lake in Arizona would be great. 0.97

02:03:41.000 She'd bring some spice to the United States Senate and to the rhinos that need it. 1.00

02:03:48.000 I think she'd be awesome.

02:03:51.000 So, you know, that would be a big one, you know, on that map.

02:03:55.000 You know, a lot going on.

02:03:57.000 I mean, there's some big...

02:03:58.000 Honestly, this is the last chance in 10 years that we can actually make some gains in the United States Senate just based on where, you know, there are sort of purple states where we have a chance to actually make some gains that you don't have in the next cycle.

02:04:10.000 So we got to really do a lot there.

02:04:17.000 William Wallace. You love the...

02:04:18.000 Where residents are treated like presidents.

02:04:22.000 The meme my father put up.

02:04:25.000 Yeah, where basically the White House is a big nursing home and it's pictures of Joe Biden lost on stage.

02:04:31.000 And it's talking about turning the White House into an elder care facility.

02:04:36.000 Yeah, that was pretty funny.

02:04:39.000 Jeff Duncan in Third District House in South Carolina.

02:04:44.000 Interesting. Don, what will you do with Joy Reid's wig?

02:04:50.000 Like in the meme? Yeah, what was that?

02:04:53.000 So someone made it, I have no idea, but I posted it on my Instagram.

02:04:56.000 Go check it out. I think I also posted it on Twitter and Truth.

02:04:59.000 It was like, it was literally a video of me like ice fishing when I was out there with Black Tip H, my buddy.

02:05:04.000 We were up in Wisconsin, actually.

02:05:06.000 We were out on the ice in Milwaukee, you know, fishing for, you know, giant, you know, giant trout through the ice.

02:05:13.000 And it's just a video.

02:05:14.000 And I was like, I lost one. I was like, ooh.

02:05:18.000 The line goes slack and they superimpose it over Joey Reed.

02:05:23.000 It was basically like a Trump wig.

02:05:26.000 I don't think she intended it to be so, but it was like a white wig with a comb over and me literally pulling it off her head. 0.99

02:05:34.000 Go check it out.

02:05:36.000 If you're not following me on Twitter or Truth or Instagram, go follow me in all those places because I use them all a little bit differently.

02:05:44.000 Do I ever bring Kimberly on here?

02:05:45.000 That's a good question. Actually, my opening show, the first show ever, we're coming up on the one-year anniversary, by the way.

02:05:50.000 When is that? A couple more weeks.

02:05:54.000 One-year anniversary. USA Now just posted it in Locals.

02:06:01.000 It's pretty amazing. It's quick, but it is funny.

02:06:05.000 She was on the opening show.

02:06:07.000 She's got her show before.

02:06:08.000 We've got to do more, but the problem is... 0.99

02:06:12.000 Fuckers get me in trouble here because you ask all questions like, oh, so when are you getting married? 0.99

02:06:15.000 You know, they're not even necessarily inappropriate questions. 1.00

02:06:20.000 They're just questions I don't want to have to answer publicly.

02:06:24.000 So, you know, and she's got her own show at four o'clock before this. 0.98

02:06:28.000 So, but no, she's great on there because she's That is what I call, and I mean this very affectionately, a very spicy broad. 1.00

02:06:35.000 So she's always fun because she's just great. 0.69

02:06:41.000 So yeah, I should have Kimberly on here more. 1.00

02:06:45.000 Scott Pressler, that's a great suggestion.

02:06:47.000 Let's make that happen. 1.00

02:06:48.000 That fucking guy is out there breaking his ass, registering Republican voters. 1.00

02:06:54.000 I try to prop him up wherever we can. 1.00

02:06:57.000 Eventually... You just got to bring him into one of the bigger institutions and let him do his thing on scale.

02:07:03.000 But that guy's all over the place, always fighting, registering voters, doing, I mean, honestly, so much more than so many of the establishment people in there.

02:07:11.000 I think that's a great idea.

02:07:13.000 Dylan Mulvaney for press secretary.

02:07:18.000 Yeah, Tori. Yeah, Kimberly's a natural.

02:07:20.000 She's got a great show. 0.96

02:07:21.000 A little different format. I'm a little bit longer form.

02:07:23.000 I rant a little bit more. What's sort of funny, and I pull it out of her on the show, it's like, Kim, with her show, she's so used to just, like, pro news, like, undefeated death penalty prosecutor, this kind of stuff.

02:07:35.000 Like, she...

02:07:38.000 Kim actually, behind the scenes, is like...

02:07:41.000 Inappropriate funny ball breaker. 0.96

02:07:43.000 It's sort of great, but on her show, she's just so prim and proper, I feel sometimes.

02:07:48.000 So she's going to come on my show so you see a lot more of that.

02:07:53.000 That's a big one.

02:07:56.000 I feel like sometimes she's reluctant to do that.

02:07:58.000 She does that the same, but we'll give a speech somewhere.

02:08:01.000 I'm like, just go ad-lib it.

02:08:02.000 She's like, no, I want to be proper. I'm going to write something out.

02:08:05.000 But she's literally one of the best impromptu speakers there is, period. 0.64

02:08:09.000 She's amazing. So, you know, it's interesting.

02:08:14.000 We could have some fun with that one.

02:08:17.000 Brendan Strzokka really got screwed on J6. 100%, right?

02:08:23.000 Yeah, so Pressler and Brendan Strzokka.

02:08:25.000 Those are both good, actually. 0.95

02:08:28.000 Yeah, they're guys that actually do a lot of shit naturally that don't get enough credit for it. 0.96

02:08:32.000 It's hard, man. You know, I try to... 0.97

02:08:36.000 Whether it's me posting memes or whether it's whatever else it is, I literally try to give credit where I know, and then I get people pissed off, oh, he didn't tag me.

02:08:43.000 I'm like, dude, I can have a meme that's sent to me.

02:08:46.000 It's already blurry. It's been screenshot and forwarded so many times.

02:08:49.000 I may not always know.

02:08:51.000 Sometimes I just throw something up there because it's funny.

02:08:53.000 I don't see the watermark or whatever it is.

02:08:55.000 I do my best to do it, but...

02:08:56.000 There are some, you know, serious, you know, unsung heroes out there that we got to try to get them a little bit more attention.

02:09:05.000 So we'll see.

02:09:08.000 Fetterman for VP. I don't think so.

02:09:10.000 But by the way, like I said, I've been complimentary of some of the things he said.

02:09:13.000 But make no mistake, folks. Some of the things he's saying are so that the Democrats can use him to help parade Joe Biden around Pennsylvania next time around.

02:09:22.000 So I say, hey, he's more based than some of the Republicans in the Senate.

02:09:28.000 The reality is it's probably a psyop.

02:09:30.000 He's saying a couple things. Maybe he believes them.

02:09:32.000 Maybe he doesn't. I don't know.

02:09:34.000 But there's no question on my mind That he's saying these things so that the Bidens can go around with him throughout Pennsylvania and he could be like, the moderate nice guy that helps Joe who's destroyed our state, our economy, our country, is getting us into wars, feel not like that.

02:09:51.000 So, you know, if I joke about something, you know, and there's plenty to joke about with that one, but like, you know, Yeah, I don't understand.

02:10:00.000 All of these things probably have a plan behind them.

02:10:03.000 He didn't just get woke or based.

02:10:05.000 He will be the guy that they will use to try to win over people in Pennsylvania who would never otherwise vote for Joe Biden.

02:10:14.000 That's the plan. You heard it here first.

02:10:16.000 So don't fall for that one even a little bit.

02:10:21.000 It's crazy.

02:10:23.000 Yeah. Look outside America for news, but where are you going to go?

02:10:30.000 The BBC is like, you know, it might as well be run by Communist China. 0.95

02:10:34.000 They're so far left. Let's see.

02:10:39.000 No more rhinos.

02:10:41.000 Yeah, we need 50 JDs, 100%.

02:10:43.000 By the way, JD is the other guy that would be like, you know, would be another...

02:10:48.000 I've said this on the show, obviously.

02:10:49.000 He'd be another guy that would be like a top...

02:10:51.000 You know, let him and Tucker fight it out for VP would be pretty amazing.

02:10:56.000 JD's just been, you know, again, smart, gets it, functioned in the real world, successful business guy, like upbringing that, you know, literally from Appalachia.

02:11:06.000 His book was one of my favorites. Hillbilly Elegy.

02:11:10.000 Like, just a great, great dude.

02:11:14.000 So, yeah, I mean, he's a top two or three for me as well.

02:11:17.000 So, you know, that's a big one.

02:11:20.000 Chip Soy? Yeah, not gonna happen.

02:11:23.000 I think that was clearly designed to troll me.

02:11:26.000 But, you know, so let's see.

02:11:29.000 How many people we still got watching, guys?

02:11:33.000 Oh, wow. We got a lot of people still watching, I guess.

02:11:34.000 So I'll keep going.

02:11:36.000 I don't care. Sorry, guys.

02:11:38.000 Dinner's going to be later and cold.

02:11:42.000 What else we got, guys?

02:11:48.000 Still streaming fast there.

02:11:50.000 Rand Paul. I like Rand.

02:11:51.000 I'm actually pretty good friends with Rand.

02:11:53.000 And I honestly, like, I think I, you know, I lean fairly libertarian on quite a bit of things.

02:11:59.000 You know, so it's interesting.

02:12:01.000 I also like how he calls out the government waste really effectively. 0.98

02:12:04.000 I actually, like, started working on a book about that just because I think it's so important for people just to understand just how stupid... 0.99

02:12:15.000 Deadly dose of Laura Loomer and Laura Logan. 0.99

02:12:18.000 I assume that was for press secretary. 0.70

02:12:20.000 Listen, Laura Loomer, for at least a couple of weeks, she's an animal. 0.92

02:12:27.000 For a couple of weeks, just to...

02:12:31.000 Warn the press, and if they get a little too insane and too dishonest, which they can't help but do, you bring her back in for a week as punishment, that could be pretty fun.

02:12:41.000 Have her be a revolving press secretary. 1.00

02:12:43.000 Be like, okay, you guys are getting way over your skis with your bullshit. 1.00

02:12:48.000 We're bringing back Laura for a week. 1.00

02:12:50.000 Let's go. So that could be fun.

02:12:54.000 Yeah, and the Rand thing was interesting the other day, basically being like, hey, I'm never a Nicky because he understands where that goes.

02:13:01.000 So, you know, I actually get that.

02:13:02.000 I know he'll be fine, but I think people needed to understand that.

02:13:07.000 You saw where all the billionaire money went. 0.98

02:13:08.000 You saw where all the Democrat funders, the bullshit lawsuits that they're trying against us. 0.93

02:13:13.000 Literally the same people funding the plaintiffs in that are funding Nicky Haley. 0.98

02:13:17.000 And they ain't conservatives.

02:13:18.000 These were Obama, Biden donors.

02:13:23.000 Yep, Byron Donalds. We discussed him earlier.

02:13:25.000 I did... When we do Wesley Hunt next week...

02:13:31.000 We were in a sort of room at an after party celebrating after Iowa.

02:13:36.000 And, you know, him, Matt Gaetz, me, Wesley Hunt, Kim, like, a bunch of people.

02:13:43.000 And then, like, you know, some consultants and, you know, pollsters and all.

02:13:47.000 And, like, we started having some fun.

02:13:50.000 And, like, you could see it. Like, all of us were having a blast.

02:13:52.000 And then you see some of the consultants who are just, you know, they're not...

02:13:54.000 They're so afraid of their own shadows so often in the Republican Party.

02:13:58.000 You could be like... I'll get into that.

02:14:03.000 I know Wesley's on next week. We'll have Byron on soon again.

02:14:06.000 It was pretty funny.

02:14:08.000 We'll have to get into the details of that one.

02:14:11.000 Cash Patel, that's one that pops continually.

02:14:14.000 I'd love to have him somewhere in there in intelligence or justice.

02:14:19.000 Put him in the CIA to destroy some of the BS that's going on there.

02:14:26.000 Gates for VP. Listen, there could be some interesting stuff for him.

02:14:31.000 He certainly speaks his mind and does a good job with that.

02:14:36.000 Musk? You know, listen, I like Musk doing what he's doing.

02:14:39.000 I mean, I think, you know, again, I don't think he's a conservative, but it doesn't matter.

02:14:43.000 Like, if you believe in free speech, that's enough.

02:14:46.000 You know, and so with what he's doing, like, but like, you know, he's one of those...

02:14:51.000 That's a generational talent in terms of intelligence.

02:14:56.000 I mean, he's literally, you know, created electric vehicles, essentially.

02:15:01.000 He's putting people, you know, into space, you know, and stuff into space, like as a

02:15:07.000 private citizen, and you know, uh, you know, saving free speech, like, you know, he's doing

02:15:14.000 a lot.

02:15:15.000 Like, I want that kind of genius to do that.

02:15:16.000 If he could go blow stuff up in government and get rid of these, you know, I think it's

02:15:20.000 wonderful.

02:15:21.000 But like, that guy's a generational talent that I want, you know, out there doing that,

02:15:26.000 even if, you know, again, I don't know if we agree.

02:15:28.000 I think we agree a lot.

02:15:29.000 I think actually, so with what we do with Public Square, you know, they bought Every

02:15:34.000 Life Diaper, and they created this brand, because like all the diaper companies out

02:15:37.000 there are all like, you know, pro-choice, like funding abortion and Planned Parenthood,

02:15:41.000 and we're like, why don't we do one that like, you know, is like, you know, is like, you

02:15:43.000 Doesn't want to kill its future customers and give people an option.

02:15:48.000 So again, they're not just funding the woke stuff.

02:15:50.000 So we put up an awesome...

02:15:52.000 And this is all under Public Square.

02:15:54.000 So they did an awesome billboard the other day and a cool commercial that was like, just make more babies.

02:16:00.000 Because again, we're not doing that as a country.

02:16:03.000 Elon's a big believer. You've got to actually repopulate the world to save the world.

02:16:07.000 And I think he's 100% right on that one.

02:16:10.000 And... He actually commented on the post.

02:16:12.000 He's like, I didn't have anything to do with the company, but I agree with the message, which was pretty cool.

02:16:16.000 So, you know, there's probably a lot we actually agree with.

02:16:18.000 He seems like actually a fairly common sense guy.

02:16:21.000 I imagine it's not everything, but he gets it.

02:16:25.000 And, you know, I do respect what he does.

02:16:28.000 X still shadow bans, filters comments, even hides them.

02:16:31.000 Okay, I think that's fair, too.

02:16:33.000 I mean, I think it's gotten better.

02:16:36.000 It was, by the way, the best Twitter ever was, was the, like, the month...

02:16:41.000 The two weeks between when they announced that Elon was taking over and it actually happened.

02:16:46.000 It's like they took all the algorithms off.

02:16:48.000 They took off all the restraints because they were so worried they were going to get caught.

02:16:53.000 It was like it all went away.

02:16:55.000 And then he did it, and you could slowly see.

02:16:57.000 It started creeping back in a little bit.

02:16:59.000 I can actually take my earpiece out because I'm not talking to anyone anymore.

02:17:02.000 They're kind of uncomfortable.

02:17:05.000 And you could slowly see...

02:17:07.000 That start to creep back in, and it was like, oh no, because again, and he fired 80% of the thing, but the problem is the other 20 are probably still, for the most part, leftists, because that's what's made up in Silicon Valley.

02:17:19.000 It's like, you know, if I put up a post today on Instagram, you know, the thing with, you know, that Elon put, which was the melee speech, and it was like a woman, like, Let's go. 0.92

02:17:29.000 You know, reverse cowgirl. 0.99

02:17:31.000 And he was on his laptop listening to the Mele speech.

02:17:33.000 He goes, that's hot. And I was like, that's really funny.

02:17:35.000 And I go, I put it up on Instagram in five minutes.

02:17:37.000 I was like, you must take this post down for a while.

02:17:39.000 I'm looking. It's like, was there...

02:17:41.000 Side boob or something that I'm missing.

02:17:43.000 No, it wasn't. It was provocative, but not more than the shit that falls into my algorithm that is borderline pornographic every day. 0.99

02:17:52.000 So I was like, literally, it was like, warning, your account is going to be limited in reach. 0.97

02:17:57.000 I literally... Javier Millet, the president of Argentina, retweeted like, aha, this is funny.

02:18:04.000 And I was like, wait, so he's retweeting it.

02:18:06.000 The president who is literally about is president of a country.

02:18:10.000 And Elon Musk tweeted it.

02:18:12.000 I put it up on Instagram and I'm literally like, if you don't take this down, your post and your reach will be limited and you'll be censored and you risk.

02:18:18.000 And I'm like... Ugh.

02:18:22.000 You know, and again, I still believe in staying on Instagram and fighting on those battles.

02:18:26.000 I'm not willing to cede any of these battlegrounds.

02:18:29.000 I don't think we can afford to do that.

02:18:31.000 I think it was... Yeah, you're right.

02:18:32.000 It was so mild. Like, you know what it is.

02:18:34.000 Like, of course, guess what? 0.96

02:18:35.000 Like, if we're here, someone had sex, okay?

02:18:39.000 Like, you know, I understand they believe differently these days. 0.99

02:18:42.000 And, you know, boys can be pregnant and all this shit, but like... 0.99

02:18:45.000 It happens. Like, you know, it was just sort of funny. 0.96

02:18:48.000 And, like, I posted it on Twitter.

02:18:50.000 I posted it on, you know, there.

02:18:52.000 And I posted it on Instagram.

02:18:53.000 And Instagram, take it down or you're going to be limited.

02:18:56.000 You know, so I imagine I'll be limited a lot there.

02:19:00.000 In the coming months because we're going into election.

02:19:03.000 And simultaneously, about an hour after that, Don, have you registered to vote?

02:19:07.000 Basically, have you registered to vote for a Democrat?

02:19:11.000 They already started those banners again.

02:19:13.000 So you understand that Instagram slash Facebook, they're going to be all in for the Democrats again.

02:19:19.000 I can't understand it at this point, but they're definitely going that route.

02:19:25.000 So... We shall see.

02:19:27.000 Make sure you keep following me here.

02:19:30.000 By the way, make sure you share this stuff with people elsewhere because honestly, I got on Rumble.

02:19:35.000 This is actually a good story. I got on Rumble because...

02:19:42.000 Twitter threw my father off.

02:19:43.000 Twitter 1.0 threw my father off when he was president of the United States.

02:19:46.000 I was like, holy crap, I have a good following here.

02:19:48.000 I got this. I got on Telegram and Rumble immediately just to try something.

02:19:53.000 Telegram, I think it was the first American political figure or whatever it is, or American even, not celebrity, but pseudo-select, whatever the hell it is, to hit a million followers on Telegram.

02:20:06.000 But I feel like Telegram has since sort of...

02:20:08.000 I think with X and with this, when so many of the other apps that came out, I feel like they have a lesser following.

02:20:15.000 I'm like a half of what I used to be because I just think there's fewer people on the site.

02:20:20.000 But it went big right when all the Twitter banning started happening three years ago or whatever it is because I need a place to have a voice.

02:20:27.000 I got to make sure. So Dan Bongino.

02:20:30.000 Is that the name that pops up here a lot?

02:20:32.000 He's like, hey man, you gotta meet Chris Pawlowski from Rumble.

02:20:35.000 He's a good friend. Dan was number one.

02:20:37.000 I think I was number two. Verified larger name, million plus follower type thing on other platforms on Rumble.

02:20:48.000 I've stayed very involved and very loyal and turned down other things to do it on Rumble because I know that On anywhere else, like, I could be shut down in a second.

02:20:58.000 By the way, did you guys... Like, I was on Tim Pool last week out of Iowa.

02:21:02.000 And, you know, I did something...

02:21:04.000 We started talking and...

02:21:06.000 Great conversation.

02:21:07.000 It was long. Like, three hours.

02:21:09.000 And, you know, we started talking about, you know... 0.61

02:21:13.000 Rampant sort of pedophile and pedophilia that's going on around the place. 0.99

02:21:17.000 And I was like, I think these guys deserve a bullet. 0.99

02:21:19.000 And he goes later on, he's like, they're probably going to take this show down. 0.94

02:21:23.000 And I was like, because he's on YouTube.

02:21:25.000 And I was like, I don't know.

02:21:27.000 That's just what I think. You can't say that.

02:21:29.000 I wasn't telling people to incite violence.

02:21:33.000 I'm like, I just think that's what they deserve. 0.89

02:21:35.000 If you're molesting children, death penalty, done.

02:21:39.000 That's no... To me, that's perhaps the most heinous crime there is.

02:21:47.000 I don't know if they took it down or not.

02:21:51.000 But they were legitimately concerned.

02:21:53.000 YouTube was just... They were like, can we just pull it now?

02:21:55.000 You know, we'll just keep the live going until we're done and then just pull it.

02:21:59.000 So I'm not sure if it's even up there.

02:22:02.000 But, you know, we had a good time.

02:22:04.000 It got into a lot and obviously a little different crowd.

02:22:06.000 Happy to talk to everyone. And so it was interesting.

02:22:10.000 But, like, that's the simple stuff.

02:22:11.000 So I got on Rumble because, like, it's legitimately...

02:22:15.000 It's the only real free speech platform out there.

02:22:18.000 I mean, even new Twitter, you know, well, in France or whatever, Turkey, they say we can't do this, so, you know, so we're going to accommodate so that we can get some message out.

02:22:27.000 It's like, well, that's not really free speech.

02:22:29.000 Like, you know, Chris was willing to be like, yeah, okay, well, don't show us in your country then.

02:22:33.000 Like, and, you know, that takes guts.

02:22:36.000 And that's important.

02:22:41.000 Let's see. Watching it on Real America.

02:22:43.000 What are you watching on Real America?

02:22:47.000 They take down the Christian football player.

02:22:49.000 Oh, you see that one on NBC? He just said, you know, I forget what exactly he said, but he wanted to thank his Lord and Savior, like Jesus Christ.

02:22:55.000 Like, oh, it's so terrible.

02:22:56.000 Oh, God forbid. You know, if you wanted to thank your Lord and Savior, Dylan Mulvaney, 100% fine.

02:23:05.000 You see that video of that lunatic, like the CEO of United, like drag queen dancing in the streets, like pushing that, you know. 0.99

02:23:15.000 Honestly, the flight crews are some of the best people in America to me.

02:23:19.000 I assume the non-DEI pilots love me, but even the flight attendants and stuff like that, I can't get on a commercial plane, and I fly 95% commercial coach without getting a note from them and stuff like that.

02:23:32.000 It's sort of amazing, but I'm looking at that CEO, and I'm like, What the hell is going on here?

02:23:37.000 It's insane.

02:23:38.000 But you can be that much of a whack job and become the CEO of an airline and then try to push those policies.

02:23:45.000 Plans are going to start dropping out of the sky.

02:23:46.000 You combine that with the FAA stuff.

02:23:49.000 Honestly, it's why we need to do the random, like, live rant Monday.

02:23:54.000 Because, yeah, there's just so much to cover there.

02:23:57.000 And just, you know, show clips of these things for the people.

02:23:59.000 Yeah, see, you missed that one.

02:24:00.000 Oh, this one missed it. Everyone missed it.

02:24:02.000 Because, you know, for the most part, most of big tech is going to make sure that you never see it.

02:24:06.000 If I put it up on Facebook, it probably gets taken down or suppressed or whatever it is.

02:24:09.000 So, all right. We'll do a big one on Monday with all of those things.

02:24:14.000 And hit all that.

02:24:17.000 Let's see. The flight crews work hard.

02:24:20.000 Dude, that's a brutal job.

02:24:22.000 Trust me, other than them, not many people probably fly or travel more than me.

02:24:29.000 And that's a thankless job.

02:24:30.000 And you fly somewhere, you're delayed, you get stuck, you don't get paid for the delays, you don't get to go home every night because you're in some, you know, it could be cool to travel the world for a little bit.

02:24:37.000 You do that for a career, man, it's a lot.

02:24:41.000 So, you know, they are hardworking people.

02:24:46.000 And, yeah, like 95% like ultra MAGA. It's sort of actually, like, literally I was going to say, other than law enforcement, it may be like the most MAGA demographic, which always shocks me.

02:24:59.000 But I asked my brother, what do you think is the most?

02:25:01.000 He goes, I'll fly to Chris. Like, I'm like, yeah, like I say, it's weird.

02:25:07.000 So, you know that that's a big one Have a cue phone

02:25:13.000 Can be seen on screen talking you Have a cue so far have I'm not sure what you mean cutter

02:25:24.000 I could never do it. I used to fly 90% in your consulting days.

02:25:28.000 I know, dude, it gets harder. As I get older, it gets even harder.

02:25:33.000 What's that one? I know you'll be busy concussing with your dad.

02:25:36.000 There's no way you're coming back.

02:25:40.000 Okay, so get back the Australia tour.

02:25:42.000 All right. Yeah, let's win the presidency and then I'll worry about going back to Australia.

02:25:46.000 Like I said, I tried pretty hard, but it was like too many times.

02:25:48.000 I'm like, he's coming. I'm like, we haven't even discussed it.

02:25:50.000 What are you talking about? So we got to get it right because I don't want to do something and walk into something where, you know, I fly all the way over there and a bunch of people, like we had thousands of people that wanted to go to this land and they'd be like, but like, it wasn't going to happen.

02:26:02.000 I was like, wait, wait, we can't do that.

02:26:04.000 We got to, if we're going to do something right, I would never, I just don't want to do that to people.

02:26:07.000 So we got to get it right.

02:26:10.000 But yeah, listen, Australia needs some Trump.

02:26:14.000 So does New Zealand, and so does Canada, and so does Ireland, and so does the UK, and all these other places we used to think of as bastions of freedom.

02:26:22.000 Let's see. Comfort and joy, you have a good one.

02:26:27.000 We'll see you soon. Stop the globalists.

02:26:31.000 Well, listen, that's what it is.

02:26:33.000 You see what's going on. That was an interesting one.

02:26:35.000 You see the Jamie Dimon one?

02:26:36.000 You guys are taking notes, right?

02:26:37.000 Because these are all things we've got to just take the video.

02:26:41.000 The Jamie Dimon one.

02:26:42.000 Now, you know, that's an interesting one, too.

02:26:44.000 It's like, I don't know, this is someone they wanted to run, you know, to replace Joe Biden against my father as a Democrat, which I'm sure he probably is, but he's like, ah, Trump's policies were pretty right.

02:26:53.000 He was right on this, he was right on China. 0.76

02:26:54.000 I didn't love the way he said things, but I was like...

02:26:56.000 Is that because he actually believes that, or is that because he sees the writing on the wall and he's worried what we do to banking?

02:27:05.000 You never know. But it was interesting to see that.

02:27:12.000 You could see the MSDNC hosts being like, I can't believe you would say that.

02:27:16.000 Oh, you mean the booming economy was so terrible?

02:27:18.000 Yeah. Oh, I'm not saying he's not a leftist.

02:27:22.000 Don't kid yourself. I didn't say that, but it was the first time I saw, you know, let's call it a high-power leftist At Davos, at the World Economic Forum, actually be like, no, Trump was pretty right on a lot of things.

02:27:38.000 The policies were working. Immigration. 0.99

02:27:39.000 I mean, he called out immigration. I was like, wait a second.

02:27:41.000 I'm like, I didn't see that coming.

02:27:42.000 So something's going on.

02:27:44.000 I don't think he's been red-pilled. No.

02:27:46.000 Diamond has not been red-pilled.

02:27:47.000 I think he was, you know, perhaps had a moment of intellectual honesty, which does not happen often from the left these days.

02:27:55.000 So you think Biden will make it to a general election?

02:28:01.000 Do you guys legitimately think there's no game they wouldn't play?

02:28:07.000 I don't, so I just don't know.

02:28:09.000 Do they try to take out Hunter illegally or whatever it may be?

02:28:15.000 And then he says, I gotta go take care of my family and give him an out.

02:28:19.000 But then they're stuck with Kamala. I don't know.

02:28:23.000 I don't know.

02:28:26.000 Rogan's basically red pill now.

02:28:28.000 He's certainly speaking a lot more common sense.

02:28:29.000 I don't know Joe very well.

02:28:31.000 We used to text back and forth a little bit.

02:28:32.000 I was going to go on a show. You know, Dana, I think, had set me up.

02:28:36.000 And, you know, I'm friendly with Cam Haynes and John Dudley and a bunch of these guys that are on the show regularly.

02:28:39.000 And they're like, oh, dude, you'd love Don.

02:28:41.000 And, like, we were sort of talking about it and I was trying to schedule a time to possibly do it and then sort of Uh, you know, basically it got ghosted.

02:28:47.000 And I get it. It doesn't want to deal with the bullshit, uh, you know, that, that comes with that. 0.75

02:28:51.000 But it was sort of an interesting one, you know, when Dana's like, Hey, dude, you, you, you'd really like Don. 0.74

02:28:55.000 Like you should, I was like, no, dude, I was, I, you know, we were talking about when I could get out there and doing it.

02:29:00.000 And then it just sort of, uh, disappeared.

02:29:03.000 Uh, But I get it.

02:29:05.000 And again, it's like you still...

02:29:06.000 I think this was even maybe before Spotify, but I think enough people and his people would have given him hell for giving him a platform.

02:29:16.000 We could sit there and talk for three hours about hunting and fishing.

02:29:18.000 I don't care. But it was just an interesting one.

02:29:22.000 But I think he's come a long way also.

02:29:24.000 I think he's definitely...

02:29:26.000 Dude, they tried canceling him.

02:29:28.000 And I think he was certainly...

02:29:31.000 Up until recently, but it's certainly left-leaning on a lot of issues, and that's fine.

02:29:38.000 But then they tried canceling him for even that thing.

02:29:41.000 I mean, he's a comedian, right? He once said that someone said the N-word, but he actually said the N-word because someone acted...

02:29:48.000 He was quoting someone, and they were like, canceled!

02:29:50.000 We don't like what you're saying.

02:29:52.000 You were... You're intellectually honest for half a second, and it was like, oh my God.

02:29:59.000 And again, I think that affected him a little bit, but I think he's also now, more so now he sees it.

02:30:05.000 He sees the Joe Biden stuff.

02:30:06.000 He sees the BS. He's calling it out, and I think that's important.

02:30:10.000 Again, I'm sure there'd be plenty of things in politics we don't necessarily agree on, but I think it's important to have even a moderate voice In pop culture, because, you know, I don't think...

02:30:25.000 It almost doesn't exist.

02:30:26.000 It's almost impossible, right?

02:30:29.000 So, you know, and again, yeah, Rogan's a lefty.

02:30:32.000 Yeah, maybe. But, like, if you're a leftist and you may not agree with everything, but you're still willing to call out the nonsense, what it is, rather than, like, no, Joe Biden, he's 81 million votes.

02:30:43.000 He's the smartest president ever.

02:30:44.000 Like... I don't know.

02:30:46.000 He was known as the dumbest senator in the history of America, according to Ted Kennedy, who told that to my father. 0.84

02:30:52.000 And my father told me this stuff a long time ago, before we were ever in politics, and it didn't matter. 0.91

02:30:57.000 So, you know, that's a...

02:31:00.000 That was sort of a known thing in D.C. Joe Biden has never been intelligent.

02:31:04.000 They were just able to use him as fake blue-collar Joe.

02:31:08.000 But you can sell that to the people when you have billions in ads and the TV's doing it and they're talking about how blue-collar...

02:31:14.000 I mean, he's never had a blue-collar... I've had more blue-collar jobs and more blue-collar stuff than Joe Biden ever did in his life.

02:31:20.000 But that doesn't matter.

02:31:22.000 I'll never be blue-collar Don, and that's fine.

02:31:24.000 I don't care. But, you know, they wanted to sell that to middle America, just like they told you, no, we've never canceled our pipeline, but they did on day one, right?

02:31:32.000 People are on to that.

02:31:33.000 So as long as you're willing to call it out, even if you lean one way or don't agree with me on everything or don't agree with the conservative platform on everything, like, that's sort of the nature of America.

02:31:44.000 That's the way it goes, right?

02:31:49.000 Okay, so I'm going to get in trouble for saying this one.

02:31:52.000 But someone just put the meme up of Ron and, you know, they were going to win Iowa, remember?

02:31:58.000 You know, all of that stuff. And we got to have some fun with this stuff.

02:32:00.000 But it was like, someone basically said, you know, 99 counties but didn't win a one.

02:32:07.000 And it was funny.

02:32:08.000 And I was like, yeah, it's sort of hard to believe there.

02:32:11.000 And who was it?

02:32:13.000 Maybe it was Byron or maybe it was...

02:32:17.000 Maybe Wesley Hunt. This was when we were joking around after that night, and they go, oh, no, actually.

02:32:23.000 I don't know if he wants to be called out.

02:32:25.000 He helps us with our show.

02:32:27.000 So I won't name him, because unless he wants to be named, I can give him credit later.

02:32:32.000 He goes, well, listen, Doug, in all fairness, it was about, you know, they spent $30 million just on anyone.

02:32:38.000 They knocked on every door in the state, and millions of people, they had 60,000 commitments.

02:32:42.000 Those people didn't actually vote for them, but it didn't matter...

02:32:45.000 And I go, well, yeah, that was a formidable operation.

02:32:47.000 We didn't do nearly that amount of door knocking and stuff.

02:32:50.000 And he cuts me off.

02:32:52.000 He goes, listen, Don, if door knocking were the only thing that mattered, the Jehovah's Witnesses would be the most popular religion in the world. 0.90

02:33:01.000 And I was like, hey, I think the Jehovah's Witnesses could be great, but it was kind of funny. 0.93

02:33:05.000 I was like, you make a solid point.

02:33:07.000 You make a solid point.

02:33:08.000 I actually said I wanted to use that on the show.

02:33:10.000 They're like, you really shouldn't say that.

02:33:11.000 I was like, so I'm now...

02:33:15.000 This is what happens when I go for two and a half hours.

02:33:18.000 But it was actually sort of a funny point, which is, yeah, just because you go through the paces doesn't mean people are going to be into what you're always selling.

02:33:27.000 So that was an important point to make.

02:33:29.000 It was not a knock on anyone.

02:33:30.000 It's just sort of freaking funny because it's funny.

02:33:35.000 Let's see. Yeah, not a good ROI. No, that was a terrible return on investment.

02:33:43.000 Some of those guys, they're in for $200 million at this point.

02:33:47.000 And it's like, probably not going to win a state.

02:33:50.000 That's an interesting one.

02:33:53.000 Saying the video keeps freezing?

02:33:55.000 That's interesting. I don't see it here.

02:33:59.000 Anyone else noticing that? 0.99

02:34:02.000 Okay, only climate crisis could be dumb enough. 1.00

02:34:07.000 Only climate cultists could be dumb enough to vote for RFK. Yeah, just so you, like, hey, I know the guy, I've met him before, seems nice, like, whatever, but, like, he's literally, like, a rabid leftist that happens to be anti-vax. 0.99

02:34:20.000 That's it. That's the one thing.

02:34:21.000 And maybe that's a big one, but honestly, like, given that we're, like, nuclear war, like, you know, he wants open borders, he wants to ban the Second Amendment, he wants, you know, he hates farmers.

02:34:32.000 Like, I mean...

02:34:34.000 And there's literally, and, you know, then this thing was like, well, people could change.

02:34:38.000 I was like, everything?

02:34:40.000 They change everything? Like, no, you just didn't know what my father was feeling.

02:34:42.000 You've been in politics your whole life.

02:34:44.000 Like, there's a difference. You didn't just change everything you believe in the last six months.

02:34:49.000 And, like, magically, you know, and I saw it because, you know, the more biased platforms, you know, I was seeing it on Instagram a lot.

02:34:57.000 Every other post was RFK from people I don't follow.

02:34:59.000 They were literally trying to create, look, it's another Trump.

02:35:04.000 I'm like, yeah, except for every policy is the opposite.

02:35:10.000 Understand that that was a PSYOP. By the Democrat Party.

02:35:15.000 It continues to be. So I hope he gets on every ballot and I hope that everyone realizes he is a full-blown leftist and I hope they vote accordingly because maybe it draws some votes away from Joe Biden because he shouldn't be taking any conservative votes unless you couldn't care less about literally anything other than Other than the Vax, which is a big one for May, but it's not relative to, hey, we're going to be sent to the gulags if this continues, or free speech, or the Second Amendment, or our border closing it down, or...

02:35:49.000 Not mandating ridiculous environmental policies that would destroy our economy, our middle class, our manufacturing sector, and send it all to China, who's going to do nothing about the environment and continue to, you know, the scourge and pillage of the earth. 0.99

02:36:02.000 Like, yeah.

02:36:04.000 If you want that guy, that's RFK. In my opinion.

02:36:07.000 Again, I think he's a nice guy, but, like, don't fall for the PSYOP. That's a bunch of crap. 1.00

02:36:13.000 Let's see. Um... 1.00

02:36:20.000 He's a climate change activist.

02:36:22.000 That was his big thing until six weeks ago.

02:36:26.000 It's like open borders, anti-gun, climate change activist.

02:36:30.000 I think he said, what was it? Fuck our farmers was his quote. 1.00

02:36:35.000 What? That sounds like literally World Economic Forum stuff. 1.00

02:36:38.000 Do you see that other video? Coming out of the World Economic Forum.

02:36:43.000 What was the word they used?

02:36:45.000 They wanted to classify...

02:36:49.000 Farming and fishing as like ecocide.

02:36:53.000 Ecocide is the word. Like suicide, but of the ecosystems, you know, of the environment.

02:36:59.000 And they wanted it to be enforced by law enforcement.

02:37:03.000 So if you're a farmer...

02:37:06.000 Or a fisherman. I was like, how do these people...

02:37:08.000 This was not a thin woman either. 0.86

02:37:10.000 This person has not missed a meal or probably had a few more meals than they should.

02:37:15.000 They want to make farming and fishing ecocide and have it enforced criminally if you do it.

02:37:21.000 I was like, so we're going to have six plus billion people in the world.

02:37:24.000 They're going to starve to death right now.

02:37:25.000 These are the brilliant ideas coming out of the World Economic Forum.

02:37:28.000 So we should stop listening to these people.

02:37:30.000 We should stop funding them.

02:37:31.000 We should stop investing with them.

02:37:33.000 And as Vivek really pointed out, like...

02:37:36.000 Your 401k is probably being invested by those guys, but they're voting your shares the way they want to vote, not the way you want to vote, and that's a big difference.

02:37:43.000 We've got to be aware of these things.

02:37:45.000 That's why we've got to start, again, voting with our wallets, whether it's using Public Square, whether it's using Patriot Mobile for your phone, these kinds of things, supporting the sponsors of shows like this.

02:37:54.000 Stop giving your money to the people that hate you.

02:37:58.000 So... I don't know.

02:38:00.000 I'm going to get in trouble for my team because we're all hungry and I haven't even eaten yet today because my day started a little bit rough with a funeral.

02:38:06.000 So I'm getting a little late and it's almost nine.

02:38:08.000 But with that, guys, don't forget, like, share, subscribe.

02:38:14.000 We'll have some fun on Monday.

02:38:16.000 But make sure you're passing this on to other people.

02:38:18.000 Make sure that you're forwarding it.

02:38:19.000 If you like a clip, find it, send it.

02:38:21.000 Get it out there so we can get more people watching.

02:38:24.000 We're going to need it, especially in the next year.

02:38:26.000 And honestly, this is the one platform I know that...

02:38:29.000 They're not going to throw me off of because they actually believe in what they say.

02:38:33.000 So make sure you're sharing this, that your friends can see it, that they get involved, that they understand what's at stake.

02:38:40.000 Oh, we got some breaking news.

02:38:42.000 I lied. Nevada Governor Joe Lombardo will caucus for Donald Trump.

02:38:47.000 Nevada voters, remember, only the caucus results award delegates.

02:38:51.000 Yes, that's a big one. Nikki Haley, she's like, she's on the Nevada primary, but that's not like a thing. 0.84

02:38:55.000 It's like, it's fictitious.

02:38:58.000 So the state of Nevada is trying to confuse voters with a competing presidential primary.

02:39:05.000 It doesn't exist.

02:39:06.000 So make sure if you're in Nevada, like Iowa, it's a caucus.

02:39:11.000 Only the caucus actually awards delegates.

02:39:14.000 Delegates are who votes for you at the Republican National Convention and decides who gets all of the credit.

02:39:19.000 So this is one that the state's playing games, but they'll also try to play some games in the media.

02:39:25.000 Like, she won the Nevada primary.

02:39:26.000 The problem is there's no Nevada primary that actually awards delegates.

02:39:30.000 It's a caucus.

02:39:31.000 It's like Iowa.

02:39:32.000 It's different than most of the other states.

02:39:35.000 So that's a big one to know.

02:39:37.000 Also, well, we'll talk about this more on Monday.

02:39:39.000 If you're up in New Hampshire, make sure you're voting on Tuesday.

02:39:44.000 They're trying to get a bunch of the Democrats to vote for Nikki Haley. 0.95

02:39:46.000 So if you're independent, clearly not voting for Joe Biden or Nikki Haley.

02:39:51.000 So get out there and vote.

02:39:53.000 If you're libertarian, get out there.

02:39:56.000 Clearly our platform aligns so much better.

02:39:59.000 With you guys, but don't let them play the games that they're clearly trying to play.

02:40:07.000 So much depends on that.

02:40:08.000 So that's some interesting stuff.

02:40:10.000 Don't forget it for Nevada, which comes up pretty shortly after New Hampshire.

02:40:16.000 But again, you can see the games they're going to start playing already.

02:40:19.000 Oh, she won! There's blood in the water.

02:40:21.000 We're going to continue this. It's all bullshit. 1.00

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We Have a Country to Save: Vivek Ramaswamy on Doing What's Right for America | TRIGGERED Ep.102

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