Triggered - Donald Trump Jr - What Really Happened in the Midterms: Blake Masters Gives You an Inside Look | TRIGGERED Ep. 11

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00:01:10.000 you what's going on guys welcome to another episode of

00:01:38.000 triggered I just want to thank all of you guys for making this show like a huge success right out of the gate.

00:01:44.000 I was talking to a bunch of people over the weekend who actually understand this world.

00:01:48.000 I'm totally new to it and they can't believe the numbers that we're doing right now.

00:01:52.000 And that's really because of you guys.

00:01:54.000 But I think a lot of that's because of the environment that we're in.

00:01:58.000 We're seeing yet another news story coming out about, they lied to you, the conspiracy theorists were right again,

00:02:06.000 and that's like, what are we, a thousand and O against the experts, the people who are really smart

00:02:12.000 and know everything.

00:02:14.000 So since our mainstream media has failed us and will continue to fail us,

00:02:19.000 so long as they're basically being the marketing arm of the Democrat party,

00:02:23.000 it's awesome that you guys are coming to a place like this where we can talk about it,

00:02:25.000 we can say what needs to be said.

00:02:27.000 We can do that in a real way.

00:02:29.000 And man, until they get their act together, hopefully you can get your news here 0.99

00:02:35.000 because it'll actually be more accurate than all of the bullshit that they're feeding you 0.99

00:02:38.000 and have been feeding you probably, probably for a long time, 0.99

00:02:43.000 but certainly the last few years.

00:02:45.000 It's interesting. You know, as someone who was a fly on the wall for the last few years in so much of these things, how different the truth is from what is portrayed in media is truly scary.

00:02:57.000 And I think, you know, while perhaps I've noticed it for the last few years, it's probably been that way for far longer than any of us would like to believe.

00:03:03.000 So, you know, we got to think about that.

00:03:06.000 and we got to probably listen to people who've actually seen that,

00:03:09.000 who understand what's actually going on, who can put sort of the cynical filter

00:03:15.000 on what's probably really happening and actually get to the truth.

00:03:17.000 And again, your conspiracy theorist buddy gets a lot of apologies probably from the FBI,

00:03:24.000 the Department of Energy now, obviously all of the mainstream media,

00:03:29.000 the CDC, the World Health Organization, who were wrong about everything.

00:03:33.000 But while they were wrong about everything, guys, I think a really important thing that we have to understand

00:03:39.000 and we have to make clear is they got what they wanted out of it, okay?

00:03:44.000 Remember that. It's not like, oh, they're wrong and they have no more credibility.

00:03:47.000 That part is true. They have no more credibility.

00:03:50.000 But them being wrong, they were able to weaponize it enough to get what they wanted out of it.

00:03:57.000 In this case, they were able to put a Joe Biden puppet...

00:04:00.000 Globalist type. Looks like we could get into a nuclear war because of this brilliant, brilliant man who will be wonderful on foreign policy and he'll be great on inflation and trade and all these things that we're failing at miserably, but he'll be great.

00:04:14.000 Trust us. Trust us.

00:04:16.000 So, you know, as much as this should be a moment of reckoning for the media, It won't be.

00:04:22.000 As much as it should be a moment of reckoning for the FBI, for the CDC, for the World Health Organization, it won't be.

00:04:29.000 They're getting what they want every time.

00:04:32.000 Then, when they get caught, You won't even talk about it.

00:04:38.000 Notice how few people in the mainstream media are even mentioning these things?

00:04:42.000 You know, they lied to you about Russia, Russia, Russia.

00:04:45.000 They lied to you about the vaccine.

00:04:47.000 They lied to you about two weeks.

00:04:48.000 They lied to us about everything.

00:04:50.000 And yet, here's another example, because what we're going to talk about is Wuhan.

00:04:57.000 Remember, folks, there's no way the Wuhan virus could have come from the lab In Wuhan, China, that studies the exact freaking virus in question.

00:05:13.000 That is not possible, according to so many people, especially geniuses like Anthony Fauci.

00:05:19.000 Watch here a little clip, because we always talk about what was Trump right about?

00:05:27.000 The answer is everything, folks.

00:05:29.000 He was right about everything.

00:05:31.000 Check out this clip. We'll talk a little bit about what they did when he said this.

00:05:36.000 And my question is, have you seen anything at this point that gives you a high degree of confidence that the Wuhan Institute of Virology was the origin of this virus?

00:05:46.000 Yes, I have. Yes, I have.

00:05:47.000 And I think that the World Health Organization should be ashamed of themselves because they're like the public relations agency for China. 0.80

00:05:58.000 And this country pays them almost $500 million a year.

00:06:02.000 And China pays them $38 million a year.

00:06:05.000 And whether it's a lot or more, it doesn't matter.

00:06:10.000 It's still — they shouldn't be making excuses when people make horrible mistakes, especially mistakes that are causing hundreds of thousands of people around the world to die.

00:06:21.000 Well, guys, I for one am glad that it only took three years for the government to figure out where it came from, where everyone knew it came from, where everyone with an IQ above single digits understood that it came from, where it was always the most plausible answer, where Anthony Fauci was enriching himself while supporting probably gain-of-function research.

00:06:45.000 Right? No, no, no.

00:06:47.000 It didn't come from the most obvious place that studies the exact virus in question.

00:06:50.000 And if you believe that, you're a heretic. 0.75

00:06:53.000 You're going to be canceled. 0.92

00:06:55.000 If you're a doctor, you'll lose your tenure.

00:06:57.000 We'll throw you off social.

00:06:59.000 We're going to make you pay for it.

00:07:01.000 Everyone knew. We were conducting gain-of-function government-funded gain-of-function research in China because we probably weren't allowed to do it here.

00:07:11.000 Those guys knew that. Anthony Fauci knew it.

00:07:14.000 And the media spent all their time dunking on Trump.

00:07:18.000 It's a conspiracy.

00:07:19.000 Check it out for yourself. Because we don't know where the novel coronavirus came from yet, the conspiracy theories fill the void.

00:07:27.000 I'm telling you the Chai Khans are trying to weaponize this thing. 1.00

00:07:29.000 Conservative talk show host Rush Limbaugh with zero proof suggesting a Chinese bioweapon lab is to blame.

00:07:36.000 This question about the Wuhan lab, we know that it's been debunked.

00:07:40.000 Those same agencies now have been tapped with investigating one of Trump world's most favorite conspiracy theories.

00:07:46.000 Donald Trump is still pushing the debunked bunkum, despite his own intelligence community's findings that that is simply not true.

00:07:53.000 And there is simply no reason to believe that that is the case.

00:07:56.000 There is no empirical evidence to verify that.

00:07:59.000 Coming up with a conspiracy theory to try and foment xenophobia.

00:08:05.000 With respect to the Chinese has just as much factual support as taking Clorox.

00:08:14.000 He can't just sit back and let the doctors and the scientists do their jobs.

00:08:20.000 He's got to chime in.

00:08:22.000 He may pick up the conspiracy theory that this was some weapon.

00:08:27.000 Guys, Anthony Fauci just crushed Donald Trump's theory on the origins of the coronavirus.

00:08:34.000 That's from CNN. That's from CNN. Are you still confident that it developed naturally?

00:08:44.000 Ask Anthony Fauci.

00:08:45.000 No, actually, Fauci said, it happened naturally.

00:08:48.000 Of course it did. It didn't come from the lab.

00:08:50.000 Think of how insane that is. Imagine thinking that it's crazy to blame the bioweapon lab.

00:08:57.000 For what seems like a pretty effective bioweapon.

00:09:01.000 But that's where we've been, guys.

00:09:04.000 Okay? Now the Department of Energy is finally saying it.

00:09:07.000 That's where it probably came from.

00:09:09.000 Three years later, again. They won.

00:09:11.000 The bureaucrats got what they wanted.

00:09:14.000 The FBI says the same thing.

00:09:16.000 Well, they won. They got what they wanted, right?

00:09:18.000 The same people who think that your grandmother, who may have been around D.C. on January 6th, is the greatest threat to freedom and democracy ever, who are not worried about actual terrorists, who couldn't care less.

00:09:32.000 Now we're seeing all the video of the cops letting them in or thinking they were getting set up by all of what's going on.

00:09:39.000 Folks, there's a reason the Democrats didn't want this video out there.

00:09:42.000 But they lied to you about this.

00:09:44.000 They lied to you about natural immunity being affected.

00:09:47.000 We saw that last week, right?

00:09:49.000 They lied to you about Russia, Russia, Russia.

00:09:52.000 They lied to you about the lockdowns.

00:09:55.000 They lied to you. This is the one that's going to come out next, although they won't come out with it.

00:09:59.000 And honestly, mainstream media, including mainstream conservative media, won't say anything.

00:10:02.000 Remember, it was the safest and most secure election ever. 0.99

00:10:06.000 Who here wants to bet that that, too, was bullshit? 0.98

00:10:09.000 Now, they say it, and I go, what's the evidence? 0.99

00:10:12.000 Well, the evidence is that we said it.

00:10:14.000 Oh, really? Like, is there actual evidence?

00:10:16.000 You're mailing out ballots to half the world, like, you know, for the first time ever?

00:10:20.000 Like, well, we just said it.

00:10:21.000 We're going to run with it. Can't go against that.

00:10:24.000 It's got to be true, right?

00:10:26.000 Where's the reckoning? Where's the accountability?

00:10:31.000 They're just going to keep on doing this.

00:10:33.000 And if you keep watching them and you keep supporting them and you keep listening to them like sheep and like puppets, they're going to keep winning because, again, they don't care that they got caught, right?

00:10:43.000 It means nothing to them, okay?

00:10:45.000 Watch this NPR headline in April of 2020.

00:10:50.000 Scientists, they debunked the lab accident theory of pandemic emergence.

00:10:56.000 How is it debunked?

00:10:58.000 How is it debunked?

00:11:00.000 Of course, the media went right along with the debunking of the obvious, right? 0.98

00:11:05.000 Because the thing that is so flagrantly obvious you'd have to be an imbecile, to not believe it, has to be a lie. 0.97

00:11:14.000 They went on with it because they don't care and it served their purposes. 0.98

00:11:19.000 You want to see another example of this?

00:11:20.000 Check out this. 0.99

00:11:22.000 It was so ridiculous. 0.95

00:11:24.000 Everything that we've been told for the last three and a half years was so insane that even those in Hollywood Even some of those that are pretty woke, finally, finally were willing to acknowledge just how insane it is. 0.82

00:11:40.000 Check out Woody Harrelson here talking at one of the award shows. 0.99

00:11:44.000 I don't even know which one, candidly, because you couldn't pay me to watch that shit if my life depended on it, okay? 0.99

00:11:49.000 But check it out for yourself. 0.99

00:11:52.000 And start reading.

00:11:53.000 Okay, so the movie goes like this.

00:11:57.000 The biggest drug cartels in the world get together and buy up all the media and all the politicians and force all the people in the world to stay locked in their homes and people can only come out if they take the cartels' drugs and keep taking them over and over.

00:12:15.000 I threw the script away.

00:12:17.000 I mean, who is going to believe that crazy idea?

00:12:20.000 Being forced to do drugs?

00:12:23.000 I do that voluntarily all day long.

00:12:26.000 Anyway, it's about that time.

00:12:31.000 Hey guys, you notice how quiet the audience was?

00:12:33.000 You got a little bit of laughter, but like, that's a pretty big audience.

00:12:36.000 I've been there. And strangely enough...

00:12:41.000 I guess that was actually SNL. Strangely enough, the audience and a room full of cameras, they couldn't be caught laughing at the joke.

00:12:50.000 Can't do that at advisory expense.

00:12:51.000 They're probably sponsoring the show.

00:12:53.000 You can't laugh.

00:12:55.000 Remember, guys, we were right about the lab leak.

00:12:59.000 We were right about natural immunity.

00:13:01.000 We were right about masks.

00:13:03.000 We were right about lockdowns.

00:13:05.000 We were right about the vaccines, about boosters, about the faking of the COVID numbers.

00:13:10.000 We were right about the deadly hospital protocols.

00:13:13.000 We were right about Invermectin.

00:13:15.000 We were right that Dr. 1.00

00:13:16.000 Fauci's an imbecile, right? 0.99

00:13:18.000 I mean, he was wrong about everything since the early 80s in the AIDS pandemic. 1.00

00:13:22.000 But you know what? You don't have to be a good doctor in government.

00:13:25.000 You don't have to be right.

00:13:26.000 You just have to be willing and able to snake anyone around you who's competent, who may take a little bit of the limelight away from you, because that's all he ever wanted.

00:13:35.000 He wanted to be in front of the cameras.

00:13:37.000 He's like a midget version of Adam Schiff. 0.99

00:13:40.000 Always wrong, always lying, but never met a camera he didn't love.

00:13:45.000 We were right about the World Health Organization.

00:13:48.000 We were right about the World Power Grab.

00:13:52.000 We were right about everything.

00:13:55.000 But it doesn't matter.

00:13:57.000 But, meanwhile...

00:14:00.000 The Dems still want to blame Trump for everything.

00:14:03.000 They went so far as to try to blame Donald Trump, my father, for reducing regulations to allow for business to flourish, which it did. 0.81

00:14:15.000 Like regular regulations, like when they're buddies who are lobbyists to make sure that you need 40 layers of bullshit in between you to conduct your small business and everything that you do. 0.63

00:14:25.000 All that money wasted, like we cut that stuff out.

00:14:28.000 They tried blaming the Ohio train derailment where we went to East Palestine last week.

00:14:36.000 They tried blaming it on Trump.

00:14:37.000 And what's really amazing is that the Washington Post, in their desperate nature, you know, the Amazon Washington Post owned by Jeff Bezos, in their desperation trying to blame Trump, not Pete Buttigieg, who took 20 days to get there and has been in charge of the transportation department for two years. 0.93

00:14:58.000 Did jack shit about anything going on in our railway system. 0.81

00:15:01.000 Not those guys. Not Joe Biden, who's had years to do something. 0.98

00:15:06.000 No, no, no. Let's figure out a way to blame Trump two years after he was president.

00:15:12.000 And the Washington Post did a review of, quote, every possible regulatory change made under Trump and found that none Not one contributed to the Ohio train derailment.

00:15:28.000 A review by Glenn Kessler, not exactly a fan of Donald Trump, at the Washington Post.

00:15:33.000 Again, the Amazon Washington Post.

00:15:36.000 Literally one of the most partisan newspapers in the world, funded with unlimited money from Jeff Bezos.

00:15:44.000 Found that none of them could have shown to be a contributing factor to the February 3rd accident.

00:15:53.000 Right? So when Donald Trump gets rid of the bureaucracy and tries to cut down, not get rid of natural safety features, they attack him.

00:16:02.000 They don't attract the hedge funds that own the rails, that cut every cost.

00:16:06.000 What was really interesting is...

00:16:08.000 When I was in Ohio, one of the guys in the motorcade was actually an engineer on the railroad.

00:16:14.000 And he starts talking to me because people talk to me and have these conversations.

00:16:17.000 And he's telling me about all the shortcuts that hedge funds have been taking when they do it because they've got to jack up profits, push down costs.

00:16:23.000 That gives them an operating margin that looks higher, and then they sell to someone else.

00:16:27.000 Right? Couldn't be them, folks.

00:16:29.000 We're going to blame Trump.

00:16:31.000 Wouldn't be Buttigieg for doing nothing about it.

00:16:34.000 We're going to blame Trump. And even the Washington Post couldn't help it because Trump derangement syndrome continues to be real.

00:16:42.000 It exists. You don't think it does?

00:16:47.000 You don't think that the PC culture is trying to take everything?

00:16:50.000 Roald Dahl, famed children's author, children's book author.

00:16:56.000 Apparently people are taking offense to some of the things that were written in his books.

00:17:02.000 For example, cloud men became cloud people.

00:17:06.000 Mothers and fathers became parents.

00:17:08.000 Ladies and gentlemen became folks.

00:17:10.000 They even did the same to James Bond, folks.

00:17:14.000 James Bond. So if you're thinking there...

00:17:17.000 You know what, Don? It's silly for me to talk about rewrites of old books.

00:17:22.000 This is the sort of mentality...

00:17:26.000 And the left, the consequences of this are real.

00:17:29.000 In Los Angeles, this woke mindset led Soros-funded district attorney George Gaston.

00:17:39.000 Now, because I said it was Soros-funded, someone's going to say he's being anti-Semitic rather than taking the obvious approach of George Soros has been funding these lunatics who are making decisions, who are refusing to prosecute crime, and putting them in office.

00:17:56.000 In Los Angeles, the District Attorney George Gascon just suspended the lead prosecutor handling the case of a child molester, James Tubbs.

00:18:09.000 Tubbs has pleaded guilty for molesting a 10-year-old girl.

00:18:15.000 Tubbs claims he is a woman named Hannah.

00:18:19.000 The prosecutor reportedly suspended...

00:18:24.000 The lead juror, because he called Tubbs he, and didn't go along with his pronouns and the delusion.

00:18:33.000 Think about that.

00:18:34.000 George Gaston, by the way, who effectively legalized drug use and prostitution in Los Angeles, only cares about the crime of misgendering someone. 0.97

00:18:45.000 Think about how ridiculous that is, folks. 0.96

00:18:47.000 Think of just how insane that is. 0.99

00:18:51.000 So... You want to talk about insane.

00:18:55.000 You want to talk about not being able to read the room.

00:18:57.000 Let's talk a little bit about Paul Ryan.

00:19:00.000 You know, one of the biggest rhinos in the Republican Party.

00:19:04.000 Unfortunately, he's on the Fox News board, which probably explains a lot, certainly of their latest coverage.

00:19:11.000 But to understand just how out of touch he is with the people...

00:19:16.000 Paul Ryan threatened to boycott the RNC, you know, the Republican National Convention, which happens to be in his home state of Wisconsin, I guess this next one, if Donald Trump wins the nomination.

00:19:31.000 What's really funny is no one cares!

00:19:34.000 No one cares.

00:19:36.000 Fox News did a post on Instagram about just this.

00:19:40.000 And You should read the comments.

00:19:43.000 In fact, I think I have a little bit of a screenshot of these clips, but maybe listen

00:19:48.000 to the Ryan clip yourself for a few seconds before we talk about the realities of the

00:19:52.000 situation.

00:19:53.000 Come 2024, the Republican National Convention in Milwaukee, where will you be?

00:20:00.000 It depends on who the nominee is.

00:20:02.000 I'll be here if it's somebody not named Trump.

00:20:05.000 You won't show up if it's not?

00:20:06.000 Yeah, I'm not interested in participating in that.

00:20:08.000 Even Wisconsin?

00:20:09.000 Even Wisconsin.

00:20:10.000 Hey guys, remember the guy that wouldn't give you the wall because he didn't want to offend

00:20:18.000 The guy that held up the first two years of Trump when we had the House and the Senate and the White House because he's too weak to actually do the things that his constituency and the Republican Party would want?

00:20:29.000 That's the guy who's going to boycott it.

00:20:31.000 But do yourself a favor.

00:20:32.000 Look at the comments. I took a little screen grab.

00:20:35.000 I commented on, hey, guess what? 0.99

00:20:37.000 No one gives a shit, Paul Ryan. 0.99

00:20:39.000 But since you're on the Fox News board, they've got to pretend that people do. 0.99

00:20:44.000 And it also explains a lot about the content that they've been putting out lately with all the anti-Trump nonsense and boosting basically everyone else.

00:20:52.000 I get it, guys. They want power.

00:20:54.000 I understand that.

00:20:55.000 They want a president that needs them desperately.

00:20:58.000 A president that jumps when they say to jump.

00:21:02.000 And asks, how high, sir?

00:21:05.000 What can I do for you, sir?

00:21:07.000 I get it. They're powerful people, but don't pretend for one second that they're fighting for you, the little guy.

00:21:13.000 They couldn't care less.

00:21:15.000 But look at the comments.

00:21:17.000 I posted that in my comments.

00:21:18.000 I talked about it a little bit.

00:21:21.000 My comment on a sub-comment of the post got 3,000 likes and countless comments on that, let alone the comments that were already there.

00:21:33.000 Paul Ryan is a dinosaur in the Republican Party. 1.00

00:21:36.000 Literally zero people could give a shit. 0.99

00:21:38.000 He has less clout than Liz Cheney, and yet we're going to hold him on a high pillar, and he's going to be making the decisions at Fox News for you, the Republican. 0.99

00:21:48.000 Who actually cares about America First, the MAGA movement, you know, wants to support it.

00:21:53.000 You know, he won't talk about, you know, the gender nonsense going on in our schools. 0.96

00:21:57.000 He can't offend his liberal wife.

00:22:00.000 That would be problematic at home, but who really cares, right?

00:22:04.000 I'm sure he's making a lot of money at the board of Fox News.

00:22:08.000 Think about this for a second, folks.

00:22:09.000 This whole thing is absolutely insane.

00:22:13.000 It's remarkable, actually, how delusional he is that he even bothers to go on TV because no one cares.

00:22:20.000 As the comments will show you.

00:22:22.000 So I hope you read them all because you'll see just how irrelevant Paul Ryan is to conservatism.

00:22:28.000 But because he's on the board of Fox News, he'll have a lot of power and he'll flex it to make sure that we put in people and that we elect people who are beholden to Fox News.

00:22:38.000 Not you. Not our country.

00:22:42.000 Not like hard-working blue-collar Americans, but the big guys at the top who control it all.

00:22:47.000 That's the difference between Trump and everyone else.

00:22:50.000 So, guys, thank you for checking this out.

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00:27:24.000 So with that, folks, I want to bring in a good friend, someone who's an amazing guy, and someone who's really been behind...

00:27:32.000 Enemy lines for a long time.

00:27:34.000 Someone who graduated from Stanford, grew up in woke tech, worked in San Francisco in the craziest, wokest places in the world where he could be maybe the only guy of hundreds.

00:27:44.000 That was a conservative.

00:27:46.000 But crushed it, came through, understands what's going on.

00:27:50.000 We're here with the wonderful and great Blake Masters.

00:27:53.000 You're going to love it. Let's go.

00:27:56.000 Guys, great to be here.

00:27:58.000 I'm actually really excited about this one.

00:28:00.000 This is going to be Triggered with Blake Masters.

00:28:02.000 Someone who is triggered.

00:28:04.000 It's triggered a lot of people.

00:28:06.000 I mean, it's sort of hard to believe.

00:28:07.000 I mean, you feel and seem like such a nice guy. 0.89

00:28:10.000 In the time that I've gotten to know you, an accomplished business guy, and they turned you into an evil, terrible person.

00:28:17.000 What was that like?

00:28:19.000 You know, It's so interesting.

00:28:23.000 I knew they were going to do that, but you never know quite what it feels like to be on the other side of it.

00:28:28.000 And I'd go home. My wife was always a little bit more moderate than me. 1.00

00:28:30.000 I've always been pretty conservative.

00:28:32.000 I'm sure we'll talk about that. But then for my wife to see the attack ads, right?

00:28:36.000 To see what the Democrat machine is turning her husband. 1.00

00:28:38.000 She's like, yeah, that's not the guy that I married.

00:28:40.000 Did it make her more conservative?

00:28:42.000 Oh, yeah. Because, you know, listen, I'm pretty conservative about a lot of things, but I also grew up in...

00:28:47.000 New York City. So I understood the other world view because a lot of my friends felt that way.

00:28:53.000 I was obviously huge 2A and so many of the basic things, but I was like, wow, they're making me more radical because they've become so insane.

00:29:02.000 Yeah, and they're threatened, right?

00:29:04.000 They're threatened by anyone successful on the right who can articulate ideas that most people agree with.

00:29:10.000 And so they have to zoom in and take little things out of context and put $20 million behind this lie or that lie, so much so that the caricature that they put on television or that the media mindlessly parrots is just not the actual human being, as you've seen in politics time and time again.

00:29:25.000 Oh, 100%. Well, I mean, I experienced that, right?

00:29:28.000 I was the son of a billionaire from New York City, business guy, went to Penn, Ivy League, like, I'm supposed to be the liberal.

00:29:34.000 When they found out I wasn't, it changed things.

00:29:37.000 You, you know, let's call it maybe not the son of a billionaire thing, but you have a similar, you know, background CV, right?

00:29:43.000 You went to Stanford, Not exactly what we'd call a conservative institution, a bastion of conservative thought and hope.

00:29:51.000 That's for sure, yeah. But you then went into tech.

00:29:54.000 You were a Peter Thiel Fellow before people probably knew what that was and working with him.

00:30:00.000 How did that go?

00:30:02.000 Because I imagine in the space that you existed, You were a minority, I would have to say.

00:30:08.000 Yeah, I always like to say I was forged in the fire.

00:30:11.000 And I grew up in Tucson, which is the biggest blue city.

00:30:14.000 I guess Phoenix, technically, is the biggest blue city in Arizona.

00:30:19.000 But Tucson as a town is very, you know, democratic.

00:30:22.000 And it was pretty blue even when I was a kid.

00:30:24.000 And so, yeah, that environment.

00:30:26.000 And then Stanford, not exactly a hotbed of conservatism.

00:30:29.000 And then, you know, San Francisco, technology, right?

00:30:31.000 Yeah. But I was always on the right.

00:30:35.000 I always knew what I believed.

00:30:37.000 It's gone through stages. I used to be more libertarian as a lot of conservatives were.

00:30:40.000 I still have a very libertarian streak in me in some of the stuff where I just want people to leave me the hell alone.

00:30:47.000 That's right. So, that's interesting.

00:30:50.000 So, how did that happen?

00:30:52.000 What formed that? Well, I think my parents, I mean, my dad went to the Air Force Academy, and they were staunch-raiding Republicans, and I probably made my parents a little bit more libertarian as I was getting into that stuff in high school.

00:31:03.000 But wherever I was on the right, I used to be very religious, and then I stopped in my teens and 20s. 0.80

00:31:08.000 I was an idiot and thought I had no time for that, and it turns out now I'm quite religious again. 0.92

00:31:15.000 Wherever I was on the right, where I never was, was on the left. 0.99

00:31:18.000 Because I looked over, and that always seemed like bad news to me.

00:31:21.000 Progressivism is this dead end.

00:31:22.000 You study the history of the 20th century, and it's just no socialism.

00:31:26.000 Authoritarianism of any kind leads to tyranny and ultimately to the worst atrocities.

00:31:32.000 So I knew that conservatism was right.

00:31:34.000 It just kind of felt in my bones. 1.00

00:31:35.000 And then to be surrounded by this madness at Stanford, the crazy sort of idiotic, mindless leftism in San Francisco. 1.00

00:31:41.000 Well, but the idiotic from people who would be considered by... 1.00

00:31:44.000 Oh, they were the experts. Anyone in the know, they know everything. 1.00

00:31:46.000 These are the best and the brightest, and yet they're pushing philosophies that have failed.

00:31:52.000 Time and time again. Killed millions of people, whether it's the socialism, communism thing.

00:31:56.000 I mean, a unique one for me.

00:31:58.000 I grew up, my mother escaped communist Czechoslovakia, so my grandfather took me there as a young kid.

00:32:03.000 Every summer for six, eight weeks.

00:32:05.000 Like, I lived in it. I waited in the bread lines.

00:32:07.000 They're not as glamorous as the academics who've never experienced this and choose to stay in America rather than going to those countries that espouse those values would lead you to believe how great they are.

00:32:19.000 Right. And so I always just felt, yeah, maybe I stood out, but it was important to stand out and stand up for what you believe in.

00:32:27.000 You know, and I learned this working with Peter Thiel for the last decade, basically.

00:32:31.000 You've got to be comfortable standing alone.

00:32:34.000 Yes. Because, you know, I think the silent majority actually agrees with us, right?

00:32:37.000 But the media doesn't. The experts don't.

00:32:39.000 The college professors don't.

00:32:41.000 It's an important point. I say that when I speak on the college campuses, and, you know, we don't just speak to the echo chamber.

00:32:46.000 We try to get out there, and it's...

00:32:49.000 For life, I think you can...

00:32:54.000 Greatly improve your position by actually putting yourself in those uncomfortable positions.

00:32:58.000 You can argue those points, but you're just sort of going along with the mindlessness of the left where, first question, hey, would you be penalized if you were on this college campus and your teacher knew you were here listening to Donald Trump Jr.?

00:33:11.000 Like, there's a consequence for actually being a conservative, but learning how to articulate that, and I feel it's going to do people so much more good than, again, just mindlessly following, you know, what they tell you, even, again, if there's a consequence that there didn't used to be.

00:33:25.000 Right. And it's even more important today, because what they tell us, what the expert, you know, look at the COVID situation, right?

00:33:30.000 Look at everything.

00:33:32.000 I guess the experts are having a bad time. 0.99

00:33:33.000 Your conspiracy theory moron has been batting a thousand, 0.97

00:33:37.000 whereas the wonderful people in academia and Stanford and media, 0.99

00:33:41.000 they haven't actually gotten much right, though they continue to win because

00:33:45.000 they utilize that misinformation and or insanity or things that just aren't even plausible.

00:33:53.000 Right.

00:33:54.000 When was Wuhan lab leak theory?

00:33:55.000 When was that? It came from two feet outside, not in the lab working on the virus.

00:34:01.000 Fish market. Yes, they were eating bats.

00:34:05.000 And they're able to maintain that narrative all the way up until it cracks.

00:34:08.000 But the problem is they get the win.

00:34:11.000 They do. And then there's no consequence.

00:34:13.000 They do. For the lie. And so they just keep racking up the winds while we sit back there and, how do we stop that?

00:34:20.000 I don't have a great answer for that, right?

00:34:21.000 I mean, I try to do it with my campaign.

00:34:23.000 I'll try to do that if there's a next campaign or whatever public voice I have.

00:34:26.000 It really is important, though.

00:34:28.000 I think the left, maybe some of them mean well, some of them probably don't.

00:34:33.000 But the tactic of the gaslighting, right?

00:34:35.000 It's so Clintonian. The Clintons would always, there was some scandal or some horrible thing, and it's like, oh, no, that doesn't exist.

00:34:39.000 That's not happening. You're a conspiracy theorist.

00:34:41.000 Look at this shiny object over here.

00:34:43.000 And then when finally they don't deny it, finally it's just, you know, the dam breaks and they're like, oh, that thing?

00:34:48.000 That's old news. What are you talking about?

00:34:49.000 It's supposed to be that way. There's nothing to see here.

00:34:51.000 It's like, no, you just lied.

00:34:54.000 And there's no consequences for people who lie in politics.

00:34:56.000 It's the Saul Alinsky, right?

00:34:58.000 Rules for radicals. Accuse them of doing everything.

00:35:01.000 And we see it, like, literally every day.

00:35:02.000 You know, Donald Trump Jr.

00:35:04.000 is dealing with Russia. But it's actually Hunter Biden.

00:35:06.000 Russia and China and Ukraine.

00:35:08.000 Such projections. Donald Trump Jr., he's high energy.

00:35:10.000 He must be on drugs. I'm like, the other dude's like, he's literally on video smoking fucking crack. 1.00

00:35:15.000 Like, imagine the field day they'd have if it was me. 0.99

00:35:20.000 Yeah. But I'm the terrible person, and they're good, and again, they get what they want, and then, oh yeah, well, the laptop's real now.

00:35:27.000 I think AOC yesterday said it was half fake.

00:35:30.000 Well, I mean, AOC has half a brain, so I believe that.

00:35:36.000 But, hey, it's video.

00:35:39.000 It's not like we're a legend.

00:35:41.000 Imagine the things, I ask this to everyone, imagine the stuff that Hunter was like, This is too much for video. 0.99

00:35:48.000 I'm not gonna record this shit, because if he was able to... 0.99

00:35:53.000 He's there with a prostitute smoking crack saying, hey, I think the Russian mob has my laptop. 1.00

00:36:00.000 That would seem relevant. 0.98

00:36:01.000 Worth looking into. After five years of Russia, Russia, Russia.

00:36:04.000 But now it's like, that's the old news.

00:36:06.000 It doesn't matter.

00:36:08.000 I just don't think it works long term.

00:36:10.000 I know it's frustrating when the left is racking up these wins, but I know this is, certainly Arizona is a commonsensical center-right state.

00:36:17.000 And so is the country. And the people are with us, and we just have to persevere.

00:36:21.000 I agree with that.

00:36:22.000 I do think the people are with us.

00:36:24.000 But I think perhaps what's missing is, Their engagement.

00:36:30.000 They're with us. I think they believe it, but they, and I get it, they're busy trying to feed their families.

00:36:34.000 They're working in a hard environment.

00:36:36.000 That's getting harder every day when you look at the economy, when you look at inflation, when you look at fuel prices, when you look at egg prices and groceries.

00:36:43.000 If you can find the eggs. Yeah, if they're not burning down the plants.

00:36:46.000 Yet another conspiracy theory. They just magically happen to keep happening this way, right?

00:36:54.000 I'd like to maybe, we'll talk about the campaign because maybe you saw some of this yourself,

00:36:58.000 which is they're busy trying to live their American dream, you know, what hasn't already been exported to China

00:37:04.000 by the Democrats, et cetera, but they're listening to stuff in the background.

00:37:10.000 And I was guilty of this myself.

00:37:11.000 I mean, if I watch CNN during the 16 campaign, I'm like, man, I'm a terrible human being.

00:37:16.000 You can't help but be sort of persuaded.

00:37:19.000 And I think that's what some of the idea is.

00:37:21.000 If they say it loudly, there's got to be some truth to it, right?

00:37:24.000 I didn't defend Michael Flynn as vehemently as I wanted to in 16.

00:37:30.000 So I was like, well, the FBI and the CIA, there's got to be something to it.

00:37:34.000 No, there doesn't have to be anything to any of it.

00:37:37.000 There doesn't have to be anything.

00:37:39.000 And so I'm worried that sort of people's apathy, and perhaps understandable, because again, they're just trying to live their lives, but they're still influenced by a little bit of that noise in the background, right?

00:37:50.000 They're watching five minutes of news a day.

00:37:52.000 You know, well, Blake Masters is a terrible human being. 0.69

00:37:54.000 He must be a terrible human being. 0.62

00:37:55.000 Not the guy that I've gotten to know. 0.88

00:37:57.000 Right. But they don't have that.

00:37:58.000 So you have a trillion-dollar industry from big tech, which you could talk a lot about.

00:38:03.000 Yeah. You're pushing one narrative, smothering it.

00:38:05.000 I'd love to hear your thoughts on whether it's social media side as well as Google as driven by Wikipedia, as driven by the lunatics that are running it, which are doing the fact checking, which allows for prioritization and search engine optimization.

00:38:19.000 That's what's troubling, right?

00:38:21.000 People are still buying into some of this stuff when there doesn't have to be any, even pretense, of sort of objectivity anymore.

00:38:29.000 I think that's right. Obviously, the DAC is stacked against us.

00:38:34.000 And I knew it would be hard.

00:38:36.000 You know, I ran because I thought I could win, and the next time I run, I'll run because I think I can win.

00:38:41.000 And I do think we're going to win, right?

00:38:43.000 In Arizona, we're going to...

00:38:44.000 We have to. We can't...

00:38:47.000 Failure's not an option. They want us to pick up our ball and go home.

00:38:50.000 We've got to keep fighting as daunting as it is.

00:38:53.000 The deck is stacked against us.

00:38:55.000 And it's like, I wish money didn't matter as much in politics.

00:38:57.000 Turns out it matters a whole lot.

00:38:59.000 Talk about that. In your race, what was the spend?

00:39:02.000 Because everyone makes it seem like, well, the Republican billion donor class.

00:39:06.000 Yeah, that's real.

00:39:07.000 And sure, they want to control some things, but...

00:39:09.000 What was spent on your race, and what was sort of the breakdown between you and your Democratic rival?

00:39:15.000 Yeah, I raised $14 million hard dollars.

00:39:17.000 Those are the dollars you raised in your campaign subject to limits.

00:39:20.000 Mark Kelly raised, I think, about $85 million.

00:39:22.000 How much of that from Arizona? Not that much.

00:39:24.000 Probably 20%, 80% outside, right?

00:39:27.000 The farm executives are just sending him the max checks.

00:39:32.000 7 or 8 to 1? 7 or 8 to 1.

00:39:35.000 Outside money came in for both of us.

00:39:36.000 That was probably roughly equal.

00:39:38.000 But 7 or 8 to 1.

00:39:40.000 In hard money. So you guys understand.

00:39:42.000 Hard money is like, that's the money you want to raise, right?

00:39:45.000 I mean, other stuff you have to use for policy or this.

00:39:48.000 That's what you can do the most with.

00:39:50.000 You sort of basically have free reign.

00:39:53.000 The candidate can actually make a TV ad and ship it, right?

00:39:56.000 Correct. And so that's the most important money.

00:39:58.000 And, I mean, I want to be self-critical.

00:40:00.000 I didn't raise enough. Like, I worked my tail off every day making 100 phone calls a day to raise $14 million.

00:40:05.000 But as a first-time candidate, like, that's what I was able to do.

00:40:07.000 Well, but there's also that component, right?

00:40:09.000 They're like, well, you have Sheldon Adelson or had Sheldon Adelson on the Republican side.

00:40:12.000 But there's 30 of those guys on the Democrat side.

00:40:14.000 And you don't hear about it. You know, you hear maybe a little bit about Soros because you see the lunacy that they're funding.

00:40:19.000 But, like, there's a bunch of those guys.

00:40:20.000 Yeah, and they have the act blue machine.

00:40:22.000 Like, Mark Kelly didn't have to work hard at all to raise the $85.

00:40:24.000 It just flows in. Well, it seems like he doesn't.

00:40:25.000 To Warnock, to Mark Kelly, right?

00:40:27.000 I mean, we really did take on the whole national Democrat machine.

00:40:30.000 And so I'm proud that we put up a good fight.

00:40:32.000 But when you are busy and you're living in Scottsdale and you're not like, you know, one of the activists showing up to the rooms that me and Carrie Lake are campaigning hard in because, you know, your interest is elsewhere, your focus is on your family, you're trying to make it in the Joe Biden economy.

00:40:45.000 Well, maybe you do have a TV on, you know, while you're cooking chicken in the kitchen or whatever.

00:40:48.000 And when you see these attack ads, that's just like...

00:40:51.000 Relentless. All over the place.

00:40:52.000 And no one knew who I was, right? And Carrie, she was a little bit more famous, but she didn't have a political voting record or something. 0.99

00:40:59.000 And so they could just tell outright lies about us.

00:41:02.000 And with Mark, it was interesting, Kelly, because he's the astronaut.

00:41:05.000 I'm like, he's the China-funded...

00:41:07.000 He had the Chinese flag that he took into space with him.

00:41:10.000 So you want to think, like, oh, he's an astronaut.

00:41:13.000 That's the American... As sponsored by the CCP, in my opinion.

00:41:17.000 His voting record, 100% China.

00:41:19.000 But they pretend like he's a moderate, and then because no one knew who I was, the first introduction to so many voters was, well, Blake is going to do this horrible thing.

00:41:28.000 He's going to take away your Social Security.

00:41:29.000 It's like every time I would talk about this, I'd say the opposite.

00:41:31.000 We'd never pull the rug out from our seniors.

00:41:33.000 We're never going to cut Social Security.

00:41:35.000 Should we teach young people how to save and invest so maybe they don't have to rely on Social Security?

00:41:39.000 Yeah. Absolutely. Well, I saw that in the State of the Union last week, right?

00:41:42.000 Like, my first actual guest on the podcast was Kevin McCarthy, and like, three weeks ago, he basically was like, yeah, we're not touching social security, because I asked the question, because they say, Republican, no, no, no.

00:41:51.000 It's like the one entitlement that you actually paid in for.

00:41:54.000 That's right. Like, people spent their whole lives paying into a system that we're gonna, But the media will say the Republicans are going to pull it out from under us.

00:42:01.000 He, three weeks before the State of the Union, was on the record on this podcast saying that's never going to happen.

00:42:08.000 And yet Joe Biden can go on the State of the Union and say, this is what they want to do.

00:42:11.000 The media tells every elderly person who's, again, maybe not fully engaged and maybe not fully paying attention.

00:42:17.000 Oh my God, they're going to... The Democrats want to do this.

00:42:19.000 I want to take the entitlements that are going to people who haven't paid in, who haven't earned anything.

00:42:23.000 Maybe Ukraine. We can spend billions there, but we can't take care of people who actually... 0.95

00:42:29.000 It's not an entitlement when you've actually been paying into the system.

00:42:31.000 It's a public trust. That's yours. That's right.

00:42:33.000 It's no different than a 401k or otherwise.

00:42:34.000 And we want to protect that system and make sure it's available for people in 50 years, right?

00:42:38.000 But the way to do that is to maybe not send $80 billion to Ukraine every month.

00:42:44.000 And so, look, it's frustrating, but I knew that the left was going to lie.

00:42:48.000 I knew they were going to contort things, right?

00:42:49.000 We were just unable to sort of overcome it this time.

00:42:52.000 Yeah, the Mark Kelly one was interesting, because it's like, they turned him into this guy, and then you watched him on a debate stage with you.

00:42:58.000 Yeah. And you realized, like...

00:43:00.000 And again, every red-blooded American, at least at one point in time, probably thinks about wanting to be an astronaut or something.

00:43:06.000 So I understand there's a marketing appeal to that, but then you watch the guy and you're like, Like, a thoroughly unimpressive individual.

00:43:13.000 You know, maybe he was good at that, but, like, not much else.

00:43:15.000 I think I even said it on the debate.

00:43:17.000 I hope he was good at that.

00:43:18.000 He was good at being an astronaut, not good at being a senator.

00:43:20.000 These days, who the heck knows?

00:43:22.000 Right? These days, like, yeah, you check a box, you trans, congratulations, you're an astronaut, because, like, we gotta check off those boxes and make sure we do it.

00:43:28.000 So I'm not sure that, hopefully, when he was doing that, maybe there was still a standard, but...

00:43:33.000 I was actually surprised that someone that we'd sort of look at in sort of that hero capacity by any traditional sense of sort of the American dream, I was like, that guy's a badass?

00:43:45.000 Like, no way!

00:43:47.000 Like, just an empty suit.

00:43:49.000 Didn't understand the policy.

00:43:51.000 Didn't do a good job articulating it.

00:43:55.000 And yet again, if you watch the things, it's like you're the clear winner.

00:43:59.000 Like, you ran circles around them, and yet, other than maybe a couple influencer-type accounts, like mine being like, just watch.

00:44:06.000 They show the one zinger that maybe he got that you know he didn't write because it was delivered so poorly, but that's the soundbite in the Arizona media market to every voter that's out there.

00:44:15.000 Yeah, the media pretended that the debate was a tie.

00:44:18.000 You know, it was like Masters and Kelly fight to the draw.

00:44:20.000 It was a bloodbath. I was like, I wanted to mercy rule him.

00:44:24.000 I'm like, I feel bad for this clown at this point. 0.95

00:44:25.000 No, but it... But again, it's like so much of the game is raising that money and then just, you know, getting that message out. 0.89

00:44:30.000 And I hate it. But it's like we have to figure out a way to win against that.

00:44:35.000 So, okay. How do we do it?

00:44:38.000 I have my opinions, but now that you've seen it, now that you've sort of been a part of it, what did you learn?

00:44:45.000 What would you do differently as an individual, meaning the candidate?

00:44:49.000 What would you do differently if you're, say, Arizona GOP or one of the other state GOPs and national GOP to actually start winning these things?

00:44:57.000 There's a lot there. So I was a first-time candidate, unknown, right?

00:44:59.000 I was going from zero to taking on an incumbent U.S. Senator.

00:45:02.000 So that was a tough lift. Next time it would just necessarily be a lot easier.

00:45:07.000 I mean, this stuff is always hard, so I dare say it wouldn't be easy.

00:45:10.000 But people would know who I am.

00:45:12.000 You know, there's a little bit more trust built up.

00:45:13.000 I wouldn't be introducing myself to the electorate.

00:45:15.000 So I think this is why most people who go for a Senate seat, or they're in the House or something like that,

00:45:21.000 and that makes sense.

00:45:22.000 In Arizona, we have these really late primaries.

00:45:24.000 I think that's bad.

00:45:25.000 We need to move those back.

00:45:26.000 I think my primary is August 2nd.

00:45:27.000 Well, that means for like 15 months, Republicans are just bashing each other.

00:45:31.000 And you have two months to try to fix it.

00:45:33.000 And I have a tough primary.

00:45:35.000 The guy who ran against me and got second in the primary spent 20 million bucks trying to win that.

00:45:39.000 And so I beat him by 12 points.

00:45:41.000 But man, we were already taking damage before the general election.

00:45:43.000 So I think Republicans should not be attacking Republicans.

00:45:46.000 I understand we are the party of intellectual diversity, right?

00:45:49.000 Hey, I get it. Hey, I'm a Trump.

00:45:52.000 But not always easy.

00:45:54.000 I see it going on right now, right?

00:45:58.000 You know, they paid for influencer class that seemed like they're really unbiased and they were really pro-Trump.

00:46:02.000 There's honest ways to attack and there's dishonest ways, but I want to see...

00:46:05.000 There's a lot of attacks that go on that are subversive.

00:46:08.000 It looks like it's a genuine concerned citizen who's been fighting for this cause.

00:46:12.000 It's like, no, they're on the payroll or they're on a PAC payroll or they're on someone...

00:46:15.000 But you see those switches.

00:46:17.000 Right. And like, you know, listen, hey, Trump probably created that class...

00:46:23.000 You know, the influencer class within conservative politics, where you wouldn't have even thought about it, right?

00:46:27.000 Like, prior to that.

00:46:29.000 And yet, you can see now how that, and I get it, people are looking to make a paycheck, but, you know, not everyone's the ideological, you know, champion.

00:46:36.000 Like, someone like you walking away from Big tech jobs to do this.

00:46:41.000 I have a little bit more respect for them.

00:46:42.000 Someone who's making 90% of their thing off of social media, and they'll flip to whoever's writing a check.

00:46:47.000 Or if anyone's writing a check, that's who they're going to be supporting.

00:46:51.000 But we are right on the issues.

00:46:53.000 Again, I understand there's more of an America first wing of the party.

00:46:56.000 There's more of an establishment wing. You know where I am on that, of course.

00:47:00.000 But we all believe in low taxes and a secure border and stuff like this.

00:47:05.000 And so we've got to stick to the issues and then raise money.

00:47:08.000 And get that out. But if our candidates are funded 20% of what the Democrats are funded, we're not going to win these races.

00:47:15.000 Well, 20% plus, I don't know how to put a value on it.

00:47:18.000 You'd probably do this better than I would, but the value of big tech being a booster for your opponent while being a detractor of yours.

00:47:27.000 You know, making sure, you know, search engine.

00:47:30.000 That zinger from Mark Kelly that's pre-written and that's gonna be the first 12 pages of Google search.

00:47:36.000 The media bias because of the headlines. The media bias because of the headlines.

00:47:37.000 So it's not just an eight to one difference in fundraising.

00:47:41.000 Felt like 20 to one, right?

00:47:42.000 It felt like real game. And maybe more in terms of sort of real, you know, if we had elections commissions that weren't so biased, they'd be looking at this as in-kind contributions as far as I'm concerned.

00:47:53.000 They are because there's, again, there's no pretense Of objectivity.

00:47:58.000 They don't even try to be fair anymore. No, there's no reason.

00:48:00.000 It's just the other side is evil, and we're going to vilify them, right?

00:48:02.000 But again, the people are with us, and so I know we can still win as long as...

00:48:06.000 We do have to raise money. We also have to play by the left's rules.

00:48:09.000 Like, I think that, you know, we were talking about this earlier.

00:48:11.000 100%. I wish that, you know, you didn't have 30 days of voting.

00:48:15.000 There should be some early voting window, but it should be tightened up, right?

00:48:19.000 And I think we need to tighten up signature verification requirements in Arizona.

00:48:22.000 Why should they be able to match, Blake?

00:48:24.000 I mean, then every...

00:48:26.000 But you're right.

00:48:27.000 We have to... Can't fix that until we get in.

00:48:29.000 To get same-day paper ballot with ID voting, you actually have to win.

00:48:33.000 That's right. You can't win to implement that change unless you play by the rules.

00:48:38.000 That's right. You know, they've laid the playing field for this.

00:48:40.000 They weaponized COVID to implement this stuff.

00:48:42.000 You know, the Constitution or, you know, your state constitutions or whatever be damned. 0.67

00:48:47.000 Right. We're going to do this, and we're going to put pressure on even conservative judges or panels to say, ah, I'm not willing to stand up against this because I'll be vilified, but we've got to play that game.

00:48:56.000 So we're going to complain about it or we're going to play the game?

00:48:57.000 No, we play the game, and that means probably in every swing state, somebody needs to invest $10 million into a, call it a ballot harvesting operation.

00:49:04.000 Ballot harvesting is technically illegal in Arizona, but what's not illegal, what's perfectly legal, and the Dems do it, so we have to, is to go and chase early ballots, right?

00:49:13.000 You can't just tell our people to vote on Election Day.

00:49:15.000 We tried that. It doesn't work.

00:49:16.000 We need to be ruthless and, again, playing within the confines of the law.

00:49:21.000 Get out there and understand who has a mail-in ballot and who hasn't returned it and just build that system with technology to make sure that they vote.

00:49:29.000 Because if people vote, they will vote Republican.

00:49:32.000 But if the Dems are just harvesting voters who on the margin wouldn't have voted and we're not doing that, like, yeah, they're going to build up an advantage that we can't overtake.

00:49:40.000 You've hit that a couple times, and I actually agree with you. 0.58

00:49:42.000 I think for the first time, probably in our lifetimes, and I'm a little bit older than you, I actually feel like we're winning on the issues.

00:49:51.000 I mean, the Republican part, Joe Biden, the one thing he got right, he's like, who would have thought that blue-collar people would be voting Republican? 0.99

00:49:57.000 Because they're not idiots. 1.00

00:49:59.000 They see it. 1.00

00:50:01.000 And yet, you're up against those deficits.

00:50:04.000 When you talk about even things where, hey, I can see both sides of the story.

00:50:08.000 When the left was pushing Republicans, You know, abortions.

00:50:12.000 Well, the baby's only halfway born.

00:50:13.000 It's 10 months and, you know, just the head is out.

00:50:16.000 Like, we should be able to end it there.

00:50:18.000 I mean, there was a Princeton professor that wrote an article like, you should be able to kill a baby up to six years old because they're still kind of dependent on the mothers and they're not self-sufficient. 0.98

00:50:26.000 They've lost their minds, but then they weaponize something like Dobbs to turn out the young voter, and then, you know, oh my God, they're going to make you have your rapist. 0.99

00:50:37.000 And the insanity is like, wait a minute, these guys would kill a child. 0.83

00:50:43.000 Someone that could be totally viable for two months, and they voted that way.

00:50:48.000 They're proudly wearing it.

00:50:51.000 I understand both sides of the issue, especially where I come from.

00:50:53.000 I understand how passionate people are on it, but we were actually winning that battle for the first time in maybe ever when they went full lunatic. 0.89

00:51:02.000 And they're still full lunatic, but they manipulate that thing. 1.00

00:51:06.000 I think when you talk about basic freedom of speech, the attacks on that from the other side. 0.97

00:51:12.000 When you look at the trans issues.

00:51:16.000 A three-year-old should be able to permanently, literally mutilate their genitalia to satisfy the woke urges of their teachers without parental consent. 0.98

00:51:26.000 It's like, I can't imagine even the most Meaning, beyond the insane people, mothers out there being like, this is a wonderful idea, what the fuck could go wrong, right? 0.92

00:51:35.000 Like, the kid can't buy a pack of cigarettes for another 15 years, couldn't get a tattoo, couldn't go to a movie, but sure, let a three-year-old make these decisions.

00:51:44.000 I mean, I actually think we're winning on these issues, and the other side has shown their true colors, but...

00:51:51.000 It's still hard to overcome the deficit.

00:51:53.000 You're still against the media. You're still against the sort of entrenched opinion-making classes.

00:51:56.000 The people who own newspapers, television studios, they all think a certain way.

00:52:01.000 They're all kind of part of this hive mind.

00:52:02.000 But you are right, and you can see glimpses of this.

00:52:05.000 If you look at Biden's State of the Union, The one actually last year.

00:52:09.000 The first half of each.

00:52:11.000 I mean, it was MAGA. It was America First.

00:52:13.000 Buy American. It's like he's claiming credit for all the policies that your dad put in place.

00:52:18.000 He literally usurped America First.

00:52:19.000 Because he knows it's popular. And then he took the insulin thing.

00:52:22.000 Which he cancelled. My father did it.

00:52:23.000 He did it. He cancels it.

00:52:25.000 And he's like, now we're doing this for insulin.

00:52:27.000 I'm like... It is dishonest. But if we had an honest press...

00:52:31.000 They would call it out, but they're like, look at what he's doing for these type 1 diabetics or whatever it is.

00:52:36.000 It's crazy. I just think with all the crazy lies that people were told during COVID and all the experts who still want you to wear a mask outside and all this, even though it's been debunked like six times, I think that...

00:52:49.000 Normal people are starting to see that these people in positions of power and authority are abusing it and lying to them.

00:52:56.000 And, you know, maybe we didn't get the, obviously we didn't get the result in November of 22 nationwide that we really wanted or I think we needed.

00:53:04.000 But I'm still just incredibly optimistic.

00:53:07.000 The stuff is always a pendulum and it is swinging so far to the left in ways that just don't work.

00:53:12.000 I don't think the American people will stand for it.

00:53:14.000 So, how do you capture the young people, right?

00:53:18.000 Product of Stanford and Stanford Law and all that, you know, you've been there, you've been in those trenches.

00:53:22.000 How do you reason with that individual before it's too late?

00:53:26.000 I mean, you know, we sort of have indoctrination through our school programs.

00:53:28.000 I've seen it with infants, you know, I've dealt with it in New York when I had my kids still there.

00:53:34.000 You get them back, they're 18 years old, and now you're in a college.

00:53:37.000 How do you win that kid over?

00:53:39.000 Did you have any influence on your friends in college?

00:53:42.000 Were you able to sway them in a place that would be a bastion of liberal thought?

00:53:48.000 Maybe some, maybe some, but mostly no.

00:53:51.000 And I think people who do go to elite universities, they might be too far gone.

00:53:55.000 Thankfully, it's not most of the country.

00:53:57.000 Most people in this country don't go to college.

00:53:59.000 And I think increasingly young people should probably be learning very practical skills.

00:54:03.000 If you want to be a college professor or a doctor or a lawyer, hey, great, go to college.

00:54:06.000 But maybe you want to be a welder or an electrician.

00:54:08.000 Yeah, and not have half a million dollars in debt for underwater basket weaving degree.

00:54:12.000 But once you get through, and we used to think it was just colleges, but I think in the last Three or four years, people have realized, no, it's K through 12 as well.

00:54:20.000 Once you go through that— Oh, they're starting so much earlier.

00:54:22.000 If you really get indoctrinated, it's very hard to shake someone's ill-formed opinions out of them, and it's why moral formation and people should learn about the true history of our country and not some toxic version where you're supposed to hate America or something like that.

00:54:37.000 It's why education is so important, but I think with young people, even if they do graduate from some of these universities, maybe they're going to be quasi-communist when they come out, but there's that saying, if you're not a liberal when you're 20, you have no heart.

00:54:49.000 If you're not conservative when you're 35 or 40, you have no brain.

00:54:52.000 People are starting to pay taxes.

00:54:53.000 People are trying to make it in the Joe Biden economy.

00:54:55.000 Mortgage rates have doubled.

00:54:57.000 The reset on that, it actually happened.

00:54:59.000 You can't get into a house now. The place I have, like, literally, my mortgage payment literally almost doubled in terms of the interest because it just reset from an all-time low.

00:55:08.000 I'm blessed to be able to cover that, but it's thousands of dollars a month.

00:55:12.000 A lot of people can't. What's going to happen to the average guy who took advantage of all-time low interest rates, you know, maybe pushed themselves into a house they couldn't really afford, but they're living their American dream, and now...

00:55:23.000 That mortgage resets.

00:55:24.000 I mean, it's going to be...

00:55:25.000 American dreams vanishing is literally twice as expensive to get into a house now for a young couple in their 30s that are thinking about having a family than it was three or four years ago.

00:55:35.000 It's just unattainable. And so my message to young people who tend to be center-left or sometimes hard-left is, how is this working?

00:55:42.000 American culture and our politics have undeniably drifted left over the past two or three decades.

00:55:47.000 I think your father's presidency was the...

00:55:52.000 Counter to that, right?

00:55:53.000 But now we have Joe Biden and things are going in a further left direction.

00:55:58.000 So according to their own political prerogatives, things should be getting better, right?

00:56:02.000 Well, things are not getting better. The American dream is disappearing.

00:56:05.000 Young people, my own peers, so I went to Stanford, Stanford Law School, my own peer, I'm 36 years old, so my peers, you know, at this point should be getting married, having kids.

00:56:13.000 I mean, they should have been doing that probably 10 years ago.

00:56:15.000 But so many of them are not married.

00:56:17.000 They're not having kids. If they are, they're getting married later.

00:56:19.000 Maybe the marriages don't last. 1.00

00:56:21.000 They're not having as many children as their parents.

00:56:24.000 And most are not on track to own a home, which is really crazy.

00:56:28.000 And this is supposed to be the cream of the crop. Yeah, and this is the cream of the crop, right?

00:56:30.000 And so that's really bad.

00:56:32.000 It's like, for our baby boomer parents, everything sort of felt like it was on track and it worked more or less automatically.

00:56:38.000 And, you know, at 27 years old, you could get married and have that 2.5 kids, white picket fence.

00:56:43.000 And that is vanishing in America, and that's a big problem that I think politicians left and right should be talking about.

00:56:48.000 No one's talking about that, and I think the America First policies obviously get us back to a future that looks more like that.

00:56:55.000 The median wages were going up under the Trump administration.

00:56:58.000 Now all those gains are gone, and with inflation, people's real purchasing power is just- Oh, it's actually way low, right?

00:57:03.000 Way low. And that's what's interesting.

00:57:05.000 I mean, as a business guy, you see some of the statistics that are out there.

00:57:08.000 We created jobs!

00:57:10.000 I'm like, wait, wait, wait. Telling someone they can no longer go to work and then being like, congratulations, we will allow you to go back to work.

00:57:18.000 Isn't that nice? We created more jobs than any human...

00:57:21.000 It's dishonest.

00:57:23.000 It's really dishonest.

00:57:24.000 But I think people are waking up to it.

00:57:27.000 I would have thought we were going to have a red wave and people were going to wake up to it en masse last November.

00:57:31.000 Didn't get that. But it's like, what are we going to do?

00:57:33.000 Cry about it? No. You're going to put our shoulder to the wheel and go and make that change happen.

00:57:37.000 Well, I think that's the point. We have to be playing the battle that they're playing.

00:57:41.000 And, you know, for me, number one is, you know, let's call it loosely ballot harvesting.

00:57:45.000 Obviously, each state has its own rules.

00:57:47.000 Some places you can just do it.

00:57:48.000 I mean, I bet you there's people in, you know, in places in Pennsylvania that they were giving ballots to someone.

00:57:54.000 They couldn't tell you who was on the, you know, as evidenced by, you know, you have a borderline vegetable as a United States senator.

00:57:59.000 So think positively. At least you didn't lose to John Fetterman.

00:58:02.000 I mean, I know they called me an ableist, meaning I discriminate against those with disabilities.

00:58:09.000 Well, I actually saw he's back in the hospital.

00:58:11.000 Yes. When I saw it this morning, I literally...

00:58:12.000 We wish him well. I literally said a prayer for him, but he should not be there.

00:58:16.000 He needs to focus on his health.

00:58:17.000 He's obviously unfit to be a United States senator.

00:58:19.000 And what an indictment of the system.

00:58:21.000 Correct. If he was able to win.

00:58:22.000 And he'll just be a rubber stamp for whatever Chuck Schumer says, so it's okay.

00:58:26.000 But when they called me an ableist, I was like...

00:58:29.000 I don't think so. If he was going to be a checkout guy at a local grocery store, I'd say, that's great.

00:58:36.000 I'm glad that he's gainfully employed.

00:58:37.000 But this is a guy that wasn't able to formulate a thought And he's going to be a United States Senator making decisions that you, me, our children and grandchildren could be beholden to for generations.

00:58:50.000 I don't think it's ableist.

00:58:53.000 I don't think it's unreasonable for me to expect a United States Senator to be able to have cognitive function.

00:58:59.000 To be able to do the job. Just basic stuff.

00:59:01.000 And yet I was vilified and terrible and I stand by my opinion because I don't care.

00:59:05.000 But that's how they manipulate it.

00:59:07.000 Guys like me, a little bit harder to cancel, right, when they go after me, but for the average person, That becomes hard, man.

00:59:14.000 There's a social consequence to being a conservative.

00:59:16.000 How do we win that over?

00:59:18.000 And I do think we're starting to win on the issues, but we need other people to sort of line up.

00:59:22.000 I think if they're unafraid and we're together, we're uncancellable.

00:59:27.000 I think that's right. And I mean, I think you're blazing the trail and you get out and you say what you think.

00:59:32.000 And you don't care. It's literally the definition of a privileged position, right?

00:59:37.000 Of course it is. Comes responsibility, and you understand that.

00:59:39.000 It's what I tried to do in my campaign as well, right?

00:59:41.000 I had this, maybe in retrospect, it was a little bit naive, and I learned a lot about politics, but my honest-to-God thought was like, if I go out and just speak from the heart and speak honestly about tough issues, yeah, I'll take some arrows, but I'll be rewarded for that truth and righteousness.

00:59:57.000 Turns out, no, if you get buried and blanketed in attack ads, right, people won't vote.

01:00:03.000 I'm so proud of it.

01:00:04.000 I get messages every day from young people, especially young men, who are like, Yeah, we're devastated that you didn't win your election, Blake, but man, you got me thinking about, could I be in Congress someday?

01:00:16.000 You got me volunteering for this campaign.

01:00:18.000 The kind of things that you were able to say on the campaign, unapologetically on Tucker Carlson or something, really inspired me, right?

01:00:24.000 So, don't get me wrong, you've got to win.

01:00:26.000 I'm going to win the next one that I run.

01:00:28.000 But I'm proud that I got out there and I said true things, even if they were twisted and contorted and all this.

01:00:33.000 You get out, you say the truth, you take the arrows, and if enough people do that, we win.

01:00:38.000 Yeah, if we can blaze that trail, you know, with my father, I would say, you know, they could cancel the most powerful guy in the world, at least on paper, right?

01:00:46.000 And they did. But, you know, 175 million Americans sort of get in line, it's not so easy.

01:00:52.000 I see it, you know, maybe as a business guy, I love your opinion, you know, you see a Disney stock getting crushed because, like, people don't want to see the woke shit jammed down their throat all day long. 0.99

01:01:00.000 Netflix, you know, same thing. 0.99

01:01:06.000 People are saying, hey man, we have to be in a parallel economy because I'd love to

01:01:12.000 not have cancel culture.

01:01:14.000 I'd love for that not to exist.

01:01:15.000 But as long as it does and as long as those people would kind of outwardly throw me in

01:01:20.000 jail for having this opinion, why would I be giving them my money?

01:01:25.000 Right.

01:01:26.000 Yeah, I'm incredibly optimistic.

01:01:27.000 It's like there's the market correction.

01:01:29.000 Nobody wants to watch, you know, the new Star Wars offshoot where Luke Skywalker is exploring his LGBTQ identity, right? 0.99

01:01:35.000 It's like, my kids love Star Wars because Star Wars is a great story.

01:01:38.000 But when you politicize it, right?

01:01:41.000 And it's not anti-LGBTQ. It went off the...

01:01:44.000 It went insane when it was all about merchandising.

01:01:48.000 And you could see they were just trying to make money with the Zhaja Binks one. 1.00

01:01:50.000 After that, you're like, Star Wars, they lost me. 0.99

01:01:53.000 And it was just like, they're just trying to sell another stupid lunchbox or toy in a Happy Meal. 0.99

01:01:58.000 But now it's gone worse. 1.00

01:02:00.000 Did you see that, like, the Disney, the new cartoon that they're putting out where it's basically like, you know, if you're white, you're the oppressor of all things.

01:02:09.000 But I saw it the other night on TV and I was like, I can't even believe, like...

01:02:14.000 They're encouraging racism, not doing anything to dissuade it at this point.

01:02:20.000 It's like I remember in public school, Tucson, Arizona in 1992, I would have been in first grade.

01:02:24.000 It's like we learned about MLK. And that's the content of your character, not the color of your skin.

01:02:28.000 That's what matters, right? And it's like that was the conceptual thing.

01:02:30.000 That was correct. 30 years later, we're teaching kids the opposite.

01:02:34.000 Where it's like there's a racial hierarchy and you're the victim, you're the oppressor based on the color of your skin.

01:02:38.000 I think it's poisonous.

01:02:40.000 And so while it's dangerous and that is taking root in our schools, I also think, no, most people are pretty tolerant in America.

01:02:46.000 And we don't obsess about race all the time.

01:02:48.000 I imagine we're the most tolerant country in the world as it relates to race.

01:02:51.000 And if you travel, you know this.

01:02:52.000 If you've left the United States, then you know this.

01:02:55.000 I've been all over the African continent.

01:02:57.000 I've been all over Asia. I've been all over the world.

01:02:59.000 People are pretty racist in other countries.

01:03:00.000 Not so much here. Yeah, there's a lot more of it elsewhere.

01:03:03.000 We just don't want to obsess about it, right?

01:03:05.000 We want to teach our kids about the history and greatness of our country and not, you know, foment racial resentment.

01:03:10.000 And that's like a 75%, 25% opinion.

01:03:14.000 Most people are with us on this.

01:03:15.000 Most people, I don't care if you're white, black, Asian, whatever.

01:03:18.000 Most people are not obsessed with race. 1.00

01:03:20.000 Most of my gay friends, when they look at the Star Wars offshoot, you know, making Luke Skywalker gay, they're like, yeah, that's stupid. 1.00

01:03:27.000 Yeah. They're just gay. 1.00

01:03:28.000 They're just people. They're not obsessed with their own acronyms or identity.

01:03:33.000 And this identity politics is just so delicious.

01:03:35.000 Yeah, and no one cares about that either.

01:03:36.000 That's one they try to throw at conservatives.

01:03:39.000 Like, you're against gays. And I was there when, you know, your mentor, Peter Thiel, you know, he's a gay guy, entrepreneur, super successful.

01:03:47.000 I was there when he spoke at the Republican National Convention in 16.

01:03:51.000 It was like... And I was like, the reception that he had there, just saying it, was better than when they were talking about the Supreme Court and the Second Amendment.

01:04:00.000 And I'm like, so these are the most hardcore conservatives.

01:04:04.000 They're going to the RNC. That's like the nerd prom for political conservatives.

01:04:11.000 And they're there. I was like, let's see where this goes.

01:04:14.000 Because even then, I had sort of the media narrative about how Republicans actually feel about it.

01:04:20.000 You know, they'll find the one loser that still believes this stuff matters, and that's the guy they highlight and put out there.

01:04:26.000 But, like, this was an arena of, like, 20,000 people.

01:04:30.000 And they were like, yeah! I was like, oh.

01:04:32.000 Like, this is, like, a non-issue...

01:04:35.000 At all across like the hard, even the hardcore base.

01:04:39.000 And, you know, that was sort of amazing to see.

01:04:41.000 And yet it'll still be, you know, the narrative is not such and it'll be weaponized against us even six years later.

01:04:47.000 That's exactly right. The left, they weaponize our own tolerance against us, right?

01:04:53.000 They're obsessed with identity politics so that they don't have to account.

01:04:55.000 For their failures in the economy, for their failures in foreign policy.

01:04:58.000 Joe Biden, you know, what didn't he talk about in the State of the Union?

01:05:02.000 The Chinese weather balloon that he just allowed across the country.

01:05:05.000 He talks about how police officers are racist, and it's just like... 0.88

01:05:08.000 Well, when your crackhead son gets a billion dollars from China, you know, as an investment... 0.51

01:05:12.000 Listen, China's making a great return on that investment, because they've neutered America because of it. 0.93

01:05:20.000 Does anyone genuinely believe, if we had real press, would they genuinely believe that China gives money to crackheads?

01:05:26.000 No. They give money to people they can manipulate.

01:05:29.000 They give money to people that they could control, and it's probably been a wonderful investment for them.

01:05:33.000 I don't love it, but... I think China's very happy with the way things have gone the last three or three years.

01:05:37.000 I mean, if you're an enemy of America right now, you can't not be thrilled Watching what's going on.

01:05:44.000 You know, my thing is I say, like, if you were America's enemy and you had sort of the proverbial Manchurian candidate in charge, like, what would you do differently to destroy America than today's Democrat Party policy?

01:05:57.000 And like, I can't think of anything.

01:05:59.000 I'm like, it's perfect. You'd throw open the border, right?

01:06:01.000 You'd print tons of money to debase the currency.

01:06:03.000 Yes, of course. You'd let China basically do whatever it wants. 1.00

01:06:07.000 Literally not interfere as they invade your country's airspace.

01:06:11.000 Yeah, and I think you would go hard on these.

01:06:13.000 You'd create racial strife amongst a populace that has to live together.

01:06:16.000 That's right. And, you know, it's like this is their playbook.

01:06:18.000 And I don't know where it ends.

01:06:22.000 That's even remotely good for America or our children.

01:06:24.000 I sincerely hope things don't have to get too much worse before they get better.

01:06:27.000 I know there's a pendulum and I want to sort of catch it right where it is and send it gently back in the other direction.

01:06:33.000 It's just common sense. And I think most people are with us on this.

01:06:35.000 We just have to break through. I do.

01:06:37.000 We've got to get there. We've got to make people okay to actually have these opinions, to talk about them publicly.

01:06:41.000 I saw the branding of concerned mothers as domestic terrorists because they didn't want their children indoctrinated with liberal bullshit in school. 0.98

01:06:49.000 And I'm like, I don't know. 0.99

01:06:50.000 That seems pretty reasonable. Who's branding them these terrorists?

01:06:53.000 Is it like some left-wing...

01:06:54.000 No, it's the FBI and the DOJ of our country.

01:06:57.000 No, they're not concerned about actual terrorists.

01:07:00.000 That would be terrible.

01:07:02.000 Was there a person that committed a heinous crime in this country in the last couple of years that wasn't on their radar, and yet they managed to let it slip through?

01:07:10.000 It's like... I don't know.

01:07:12.000 The weaponization of the DOJ, I do think, is probably...

01:07:15.000 I mean, there's a lot of things going wrong right now, but it's chief among them, right?

01:07:19.000 And I don't want a right-wing DOJ or some...

01:07:22.000 You just want a neutral...

01:07:23.000 I'll take balls and strikes. We don't have that now.

01:07:25.000 I'll take just down the middle, like, enforce the law.

01:07:28.000 Enforce the law. Enforce the Constitution. No matter who you are, enforce the law.

01:07:31.000 Again, most people agree with that, and somehow...

01:07:33.000 That's not what we have in our representative democracy.

01:07:36.000 It's not doing a good job at actually representing the will of the people.

01:07:39.000 And so you have something that increasingly looks like a banana republic, right?

01:07:43.000 Conservatives get punished and prosecuted.

01:07:45.000 And remember the case that this guy was just exonerated, found innocent, but the abortion protester, right? 0.59

01:07:51.000 They said he shoved some person and that was a violation of the statute.

01:07:55.000 It's like a Catholic dad of eight.

01:07:57.000 Yeah, and they arrest him.

01:07:59.000 They break down the door.

01:08:00.000 You know, there's no accountability.

01:08:02.000 Trying to call him jail for 20 years.

01:08:04.000 Yeah, legal fees. 0.99

01:08:08.000 They know that even if they don't necessarily win, I think they kind of tried doing this with us a little bit, which is if we just keep, like, the problem with bullshit is you still have to deal with bullshit, right? 0.78

01:08:17.000 It could be bullshit, but, like, not everyone can spend millions like we did on legal fees to, you know, and then nothing happened. 0.98

01:08:24.000 Oh, yeah, Russia, Russia hoax. Just kidding. 0.99

01:08:26.000 Just kidding. Oh, really? Like, you spend 50 million of the U.S. taxpayers, but we also have to defend this stuff for years, and it was nothing.

01:08:34.000 They knew it. No harm, no fault.

01:08:36.000 It's just politics. No, it's not.

01:08:37.000 Yeah. The process is the punishment.

01:08:39.000 And the message, you know, they sent, I sort of attacked maybe a little bit less than your family, right?

01:08:44.000 But I was attacked on the campaign.

01:08:46.000 And then what does it tell someone from the business world?

01:08:49.000 Like, hey, you better think twice before you get into this.

01:08:52.000 Someone like you who would know...

01:08:53.000 Like, I want someone like you actually making financial decisions for this country.

01:08:57.000 Because you understand how they work.

01:08:58.000 When I look at... Congress, and I see some of the people on the finance committee, I'm like, they wouldn't know.

01:09:04.000 Never worked a job in the private sector.

01:09:06.000 They wouldn't know anything. And you see the soundbites that they're saying, it's like they clearly have no understanding, and yet they are making trillion-dollar decisions.

01:09:13.000 No business being there, but they're there longer, they've had some seniority, and it just...

01:09:18.000 Continued. But if you put your hat in the ring, you're going to get tarred feathers.

01:09:21.000 Why would you bother? I understand why a lot of good people don't want to run for office.

01:09:24.000 I think some of the most talented people on the left, that's just a natural thing.

01:09:28.000 They want power and they go into professors or politicians.

01:09:32.000 The Obamas of the left go into politics.

01:09:35.000 On the right, a lot of our best people go into business.

01:09:38.000 It's like, hey, why would I get involved?

01:09:40.000 Maybe I'll fund some campaigns. It's like, why did your dad run for president in 2016?

01:09:44.000 He didn't need to. He did not need to.

01:09:46.000 It wasn't a good business decision, but he built up all these bills.

01:09:49.000 He did it the right way. You go in and you come out less wealthy.

01:09:53.000 Unlike everyone else who magically gets really rich.

01:09:55.000 The leftists, they go in and then they make money in government.

01:09:58.000 And that's wrong. But he did it because he's a patriot and he cared about the country.

01:10:03.000 In some sense...

01:10:05.000 That was a really self-sacrificing thing to do.

01:10:07.000 And I think a lot of business people, in a rational sense, aren't willing to do it.

01:10:11.000 But I thought, you know, it's important.

01:10:13.000 I need to be able to take these arrows and show other people that it's possible.

01:10:16.000 Here I am, smiling on my face, like I'm ready to do it again and win.

01:10:20.000 Yeah, I love that.

01:10:21.000 But talk about that a little bit.

01:10:22.000 You took arrows, obviously.

01:10:24.000 But you even took arrows from...

01:10:26.000 Our own side. Even after the primary, meaning, you know, the powers that be, whether it be, you know, Mitch McConnell or I saw, you know, Karl Rove, well, we're going to support the Democrats because we don't like this guy.

01:10:36.000 The will of the people be damned in a primary. 0.72

01:10:38.000 You know, we put millions behind the guy that was a rhino stiff that would do nothing. 1.00

01:10:45.000 Well, we didn't get it, so we're just not going to support you.

01:10:47.000 We're going to walk away from you and just sort of leave you hanging out there.

01:10:50.000 What was that like?

01:10:51.000 I mean, I'm watching these guys.

01:10:53.000 I'm like, wait a minute, like, are they even, like, with...

01:10:57.000 With Republicans like that, who needs Democrats? 0.73

01:10:59.000 It's a big structural disadvantage, right?

01:11:02.000 Again, I like being the party with a little bit more intellectual diversity.

01:11:06.000 The left, man, they're like stormtroopers.

01:11:09.000 They just move in lockstep.

01:11:10.000 What they say today might be completely different from what they said yesterday, but when they announce a turn from on high, everybody just turns on a dime.

01:11:17.000 And there's something that's very ruthless and effective about that discipline.

01:11:21.000 I like that we're a little bit more individualistic and ragtag, right? 0.54

01:11:24.000 But the downside is, especially when you have an establishment versus a sort of America-first split, is we have our own infighting, and then, like, how could you possibly defeat, then, the organized left-wing machine?

01:11:34.000 I don't like that guy, so I'm not going to help win one of the Senate seats that was legitimately in play.

01:11:39.000 Doesn't help. Obviously, I did not find a solution to fix that.

01:11:44.000 But I am interested in party unity.

01:11:46.000 I do. And it's why I said I don't think we should be attacking the Republicans.

01:11:49.000 But party unity can't be at the price of selling out principles.

01:11:53.000 And so I'm proudly America first.

01:11:57.000 And I know that this works.

01:11:59.000 Paul Ryanism doesn't work.

01:12:01.000 Mitt Romneyism doesn't work.

01:12:02.000 I think we just have to bring people in.

01:12:06.000 And so I'm interested in persuading Republicans not to do that again.

01:12:09.000 And maybe I had to charge the machine gun nest and lose a lot of blood.

01:12:12.000 And I think the good news is a lot of people saw that.

01:12:15.000 And a lot of people aren't happy with the way that establishment dollars were allocated.

01:12:20.000 They shouldn't be. And they shouldn't be.

01:12:23.000 I'm chief among people who say that was messed up.

01:12:28.000 We just have to find a way to make sure that doesn't happen again.

01:12:31.000 And it can't mean selling out our principles.

01:12:34.000 Take us behind the scenes on the campaign.

01:12:36.000 What was that like? What were some of the stories that people maybe don't see?

01:12:42.000 You could learn something from the disagreements on strategy.

01:12:47.000 From the inside baseball things, what were some of the things that you learned in that process or that you'd like to do differently?

01:12:55.000 I think, I mean, it's my favorite part of campaigning is just meeting voters, right?

01:12:59.000 And whether it's, you know, a lot of conversations are just, you know...

01:13:04.000 We'll trade it and banter about how bad Joe Biden is, right?

01:13:06.000 And there's a pleasure to that. That's really fun.

01:13:08.000 Some of the conversations, they'll start like that, and then three or four minutes in, you develop a connection with somebody, right?

01:13:12.000 And I love the retail politics and hearing where someone's...

01:13:15.000 But then, you know, probably a dozen times, you know, I'd be talking to a parent who lost a child.

01:13:20.000 Maybe they lost a child to murder from an illegal alien or maybe a fentanyl or whatever.

01:13:24.000 Fentanyl or never-ending wars.

01:13:26.000 Never-ending war. I met a few...

01:13:29.000 Moms whose sons were in Iraq or Afghanistan and died by suicide.

01:13:35.000 Those were always heartbreaking.

01:13:38.000 But, like, so moving.

01:13:40.000 So meaningful. And just, like, people in this country are suffering.

01:13:43.000 And you never would have known this. You could pass this woman in the grocery store. 0.99

01:13:46.000 You would never know.

01:13:47.000 Everybody's got something going on.

01:13:50.000 I think that's, you know, for me, those are the ones that keep you going.

01:13:54.000 You know, it's so painful at the time.

01:13:55.000 But, like, you know, there's nothing more painful for me in politics than, like, The billionaire class donor selfie, take another selfie with me at an event.

01:14:03.000 When those people come up, it actually means something to them.

01:14:06.000 It's changing their life. You take that couple seconds with them, and that's so important.

01:14:11.000 It seems like there's so many people that are just like...

01:14:14.000 That person doesn't matter. We're going to go kiss ass to the donor class. 1.00

01:14:17.000 No, that person's why we do it. 1.00

01:14:18.000 That person's why we do it.

01:14:20.000 And when they look you in the eye and they say, thank you for what you're doing.

01:14:22.000 Correct. And then I look at what they've gone through and I'm like, what I'm doing is nothing compared to what you lost a kid in a war that we didn't need to be in.

01:14:30.000 So many people, every day on the campaign trail, people would come up to me and we'd try to bring my family, my wife, and my kids to all the campaign events we could.

01:14:37.000 But of course, I'm a two-year-old.

01:14:38.000 Sometimes it wasn't possible. So very often it was me solo.

01:14:42.000 And people would say, thank your wife.

01:14:43.000 Thank your children for me. You're making such a sacrifice to run for office.

01:14:46.000 And there's a tension because I want to graciously accept that thank you and that compliment or whatever.

01:14:51.000 But I also want to put it in perspective because I literally met a woman on the campaign trail who was talking about her beautiful baby, right?

01:14:58.000 And I loved holding the baby, kissing the baby.

01:15:00.000 And baby was like three months old.

01:15:01.000 And she said something about her husband where in context it was clear that he wasn't right there.

01:15:07.000 So what happened?

01:15:08.000 Well, her husband hadn't met the child yet because he was deployed.

01:15:11.000 Yeah. And it's like, that's real sacrifice, right?

01:15:14.000 Yeah. Oh, yeah. Like, everything that we did...

01:15:16.000 Half the time, and like, yeah, I get, oh, Mark Kelly's making fun of me on TV, whatever.

01:15:19.000 Yeah, it's fine. Obama comes to town to talk shit about, like, that's not sacrifice. 0.99

01:15:22.000 I mean, it's some, because I want to... 0.99

01:15:23.000 Yeah. No one wants to have to go through that, but it's nothing.

01:15:26.000 But it's people who are in the cloth of a nation, and they're deployed, and they're missing the birth of their...

01:15:29.000 Of their child. That is real sacrifice.

01:15:32.000 People have laid down their lives for this country.

01:15:33.000 That's real sacrifice. So you just try to put it in perspective.

01:15:36.000 And meeting people like that gave me fuel and hope and energy to keep fighting.

01:15:44.000 You know, you sort of got a start through Peter Thiel.

01:15:48.000 You know, interesting guy. Sort of another guy that's been vilified by the, you know, by the left.

01:15:54.000 Tell us how that happened.

01:15:56.000 I mean, you end up writing sort of a top-selling kind of business book by attending his classes.

01:16:01.000 But, you know, preaching all the things that we want.

01:16:02.000 Like, this is how to start your own business.

01:16:04.000 How to be self-sufficient. Maybe that put you on their radar.

01:16:07.000 As an enemy of the people, because God forbid people in America be able to take care of themselves these days.

01:16:12.000 Tell us a little bit about how you got that start, how a guy like that picks out a young kid out of Stanford and is like, you, come here.

01:16:19.000 You're going to do great things. Yeah, it was my second year at Stanford Law School, and Peter came and taught a class.

01:16:23.000 It was cross-listed with the business school.

01:16:26.000 Small seminar, 30 or 40 kids.

01:16:29.000 We just became, although it's interesting, because he was a billionaire at the time, and everybody wanted to take the class, and he'd get mobbed after the class.

01:16:37.000 We called them gunners in law school, the people who were very annoying. 0.94

01:16:40.000 I had them at Wharton.

01:16:42.000 I'm sure how smart they were. Everyone's smarter than everyone.

01:16:44.000 Disaster. And so they'd all mob him with probably uninteresting questions afterwards.

01:16:49.000 And I didn't do that. So I didn't know Peter for like half the class.

01:16:52.000 But what I did is made notes because it was like a really intellectually engaging class and pretty clearly like he wasn't just a guy who's just going to like assign you a textbook.

01:17:01.000 I mean he had like original theories about like the world, right?

01:17:04.000 So I made a list of like five questions and then halfway through the semester I emailed them to him.

01:17:08.000 And then he said like, hey, this is really interesting.

01:17:10.000 Like let's, you know, let's discuss, let's get a meal.

01:17:12.000 And so we did, and that was great.

01:17:14.000 But I think that restraint and the unwillingness to sort of play that mob game.

01:17:19.000 You weren't just there for the selfie.

01:17:21.000 Totally. Yeah, I knew these questions were interesting to me.

01:17:24.000 I took care to make sure that I thought they genuinely interest him.

01:17:28.000 And then we had that dinner, and I still remember it quite well.

01:17:31.000 And it was clearly like, hey, we got along.

01:17:34.000 And he became sort of a friend and mentor.

01:17:36.000 Then he came back the next year to teach a class.

01:17:38.000 This time I was sort of ready to go because I knew that he was going to deliver some good content.

01:17:43.000 And I just didn't really have a plan, but I kind of copied everything down he said and then cleaned it up, posted it on my blog.

01:17:49.000 Didn't really think anything would come of it, but that became like this Viral sensation in Silicon Valley.

01:17:54.000 It was the first time where any entrepreneur could go and learn about Peter's systematic view of how to start a company.

01:18:01.000 I put that on my blog, got a couple million views.

01:18:04.000 I didn't know it at the time, but that was the rough draft of the book.

01:18:07.000 When I saw people PDFing those notes and then selling them on Amazon, Wait a minute!

01:18:13.000 My first instinct was to be pissed off.

01:18:14.000 It's like, that's why...

01:18:15.000 But then it's like... The capitalist kicked in and said, wait a minute, I'm losing a...

01:18:18.000 There's a product here, right? So I pitched him on writing a book and we sold the book for quite a bit of money to the New York publisher.

01:18:25.000 There was like an auction frenzy because his stock was hot at the time.

01:18:28.000 Facebook had just IPO'd.

01:18:30.000 Everyone wanted to see a book from him.

01:18:32.000 And so we wrote that and a runaway bestseller.

01:18:35.000 So that was pretty cool. That's pretty amazing.

01:18:37.000 So what's the biggest misconception about Peter?

01:18:42.000 Such a hard question because I know him so well.

01:18:46.000 He's vilified in the press as some sort of evil genius billionaire.

01:18:49.000 If he was a leftist...

01:18:51.000 He's a genius billionaire, right?

01:18:53.000 I know him really well.

01:18:54.000 I know him as a warm-hearted guy that really cares about his family, first and foremost, his friends, his employees.

01:19:00.000 He really is generous. I knew what to expect in politics because I knew the real Peter and then I saw how the media vilifies him.

01:19:08.000 So I'm like... Man, they're gonna do that to me.

01:19:10.000 That's why I walked into it eyes wide open.

01:19:13.000 But I think there's only five intellects like Peter walking around at any given time in the world.

01:19:19.000 I mean, he really is next level, and if you spend any time with him, you know this.

01:19:23.000 Yeah, and some of the other people that perhaps more people know about, he really helped give them a start.

01:19:30.000 Yeah, I mean, it's crazy to think that Peter Thiel and Elon Musk, like, you know, I mean, they merged their companies together in 1999, and look at what Elon's gone on to do in his land, and Peter in his land.

01:19:39.000 I mean, these guys are truly next level.

01:19:41.000 Yeah, so if he's taking you under his wing, there's got to be something there, right?

01:19:44.000 Peter's, yeah. Look, I've worked hard for my success, but I've also been lucky and humble and all that, right?

01:19:51.000 But Peter's a very good judge of talent, and so I don't know exactly what it is that he saw in me, you know, way back in law school, but he...

01:19:59.000 And he couldn't have predicted that things would work out as they have or that we'd be such good friends today.

01:20:04.000 I ran his family office for the last five years before running for office.

01:20:07.000 Listen, that in and of itself is a huge position for someone of your age.

01:20:11.000 My friends are still like, Blake, why would you give that up?

01:20:14.000 People would kill for the job you had and you gave it up to go get attacked on TV? You were in that job when we first met through a friend of mine who's a really successful sort of investor and wild man.

01:20:24.000 And I'm like, wait a minute. Wait, you're...

01:20:26.000 Early 30s running Peter Thiel's family office and you're going to do this shit. 1.00

01:20:31.000 I guess I just believe in... 0.99

01:20:32.000 And I turned down a job in a big law firm coming out of law school to go do a startup instead.

01:20:40.000 So I've always believed in taking risks.

01:20:42.000 I wish that...

01:20:45.000 That we built a culture that encouraged more healthy risk taking.

01:20:48.000 You don't want to take irrational risks, but you want to put people, especially young people, in a position where they're able to take some healthy risks.

01:20:56.000 And as a society, we're really tracking in the opposite direction.

01:21:00.000 And I think that's bad. So if you're in literally a privileged position to be able to take risks or to be able to speak your mind, I think you almost have a responsibility to do it.

01:21:08.000 And that's how new things get generated.

01:21:11.000 And we've just got to stop people from getting on this conveyor belt where you go to college, you get indoctrinated, you're not allowed to speak your mind, you have to fall in line.

01:21:20.000 You're penalized for actually learning how to think.

01:21:23.000 That's right. You just have to regurgitate.

01:21:24.000 That's right. And every college has the glossy brochures that say, we will teach you, you'll learn how to learn.

01:21:30.000 And it's all bullshit. 0.99

01:21:31.000 It's just the opposite. 0.99

01:21:33.000 When I was at Stanford, I think it was left-wing.

01:21:36.000 This was 2004, 2008.

01:21:37.000 But then when I went back to help Peter teach some classes at Stanford, every time I go back, you can just feel the climate is getting worse.

01:21:45.000 It's getting more intellectually limited, stifled, more left-wing.

01:21:49.000 It's just really bad. We're losing individual agency.

01:21:52.000 This idea that one person could think a little bit differently or one person could do something.

01:21:55.000 We're losing this culture of agency that I think Correct.

01:21:59.000 And it was strange. I graduated from Penn in 2000.

01:22:02.000 You know, that's now the home of Leah Thomas and, you know, the Penn-Biden Center, you know, funded by the CCP. He still says he's like a full-time professor at Penn.

01:22:14.000 Yeah, I mean, I don't know that he... You know, it's...

01:22:15.000 It's fake. It's mind-boggling, right?

01:22:18.000 And, you know, get a lot of money to do nothing.

01:22:19.000 And, you know, the fact that...

01:22:21.000 I mean, I think we could do, like, an hour on the fact that Joe Biden has a think tank.

01:22:26.000 Like... I'm not sure he's capable of basic thought, but that's just me, and that's anyone who's actually watched him try to have one.

01:22:35.000 But... I guess that's what's interesting.

01:22:39.000 I mean, for so long, I went to Penn and I went to Wharton.

01:22:42.000 That actually was like, oh, that's a great credential to have on your wall, but I actually don't think it means anything anymore.

01:22:48.000 Because the way to get ahead is just to give them what they want to hear, not to actually think about it.

01:22:53.000 I know someone who got into a program at a top 10 sort of school, and I know the kid.

01:22:58.000 I'm like, dude, you're a conservative kid.

01:22:59.000 What are you doing now? They have a very specific program that's...

01:23:03.000 How the hell do you get into that school?

01:23:05.000 Just with you, he goes, oh, like I wrote a paper that, you know, I'm a trans.

01:23:09.000 He literally took like, It was sort of epic.

01:23:12.000 I mean, don't hate the player, hate the game, right? 0.99

01:23:14.000 He literally took the insanity, made it his own reality for three days, wrote down the most insane shit in the world, and he got in with it. 0.98

01:23:22.000 They were like, we love that this guy is coming here. 0.98

01:23:25.000 Now, he's like a hardcore young Republican, but they didn't know that, but he knew that if he did that, he'd never have a chance of getting into this very specific program, and so he gamed the system.

01:23:36.000 Doesn't that tell us everything we need to know about how worthwhile these schools are anymore?

01:23:40.000 It's really irrational for him to do that, but bad to have a culture where that's what you're doing, right?

01:23:44.000 Correct. If that's the way you win, it's like, are you really winning?

01:23:48.000 It's scary. So I just don't look at the value of that as having any real meaning, whereas when I was there, you know, a little longer than perhaps I'd like to believe, but ago, but like, You don't wear your politics on your sleeve.

01:24:01.000 You could be there. I went to Wharton undergrad.

01:24:04.000 It was pretty capitalist.

01:24:05.000 That was fine. You didn't have to even think about these things.

01:24:09.000 And yet, in 20 years, it's like...

01:24:13.000 180. It's just, you know, like a bastion of some of the insanity.

01:24:17.000 Right. And I'd like to think it's self-correcting, and you see it in some of the data.

01:24:20.000 Like fewer kids are going to law school now because the legal jobs are sort of fewer and farther in between.

01:24:25.000 As tuition continues to go up and up, I think many parents are finding it, you know, a little bit...

01:24:31.000 It's just less automatic that you're going to go to college and that you have to do it.

01:24:34.000 There should be many paths to success.

01:24:35.000 That said, the government's got a thumb on the scale.

01:24:37.000 They are subsidizing student loans, right?

01:24:38.000 If you're like a 22-year-old construction worker, you've been swinging a hammer, developing some- You're going to pay for someone else's underwater basket weaving degree.

01:24:45.000 That's right. And no bank would give you a loan for a home.

01:24:47.000 And beyond that, that job will be replaced by AI in the next two or three weeks, whereas AI ain't swinging the hammer yet.

01:24:55.000 Right. Talk a little bit about that, I imagine, because with your tech background, what I see in the last two months, let alone two years of AI, it's just like, oh my god, I know guys, they'll create the Don Jr.

01:25:11.000 bot, and they'll try to just be me on Twitter, and they'll be like, what do you think?

01:25:15.000 Jesus, that literally could have been me.

01:25:17.000 Yeah. Are we going to displace people?

01:25:20.000 I don't think we're going to displace people, but things are going to get scary.

01:25:22.000 Things are going to get weird. Things are going to get uncanny.

01:25:25.000 Just the progress with GPT-3, and I think they have version 4 that they're terrified to release because it's going to be way better, right?

01:25:31.000 Correct. Instantly, this thing can write high school term papers at the 98th percentile in two seconds. 0.99

01:25:38.000 Yeah, we've seen a movie about this.

01:25:39.000 It's called The Terminator, right? It doesn't really end that well for people.

01:25:42.000 I'm trying to figure out, like, what purpose do we serve at this point?

01:25:44.000 I mean, these are big questions this century.

01:25:45.000 I still think this stuff is always a little bit further away than the sort of Silicon Valley crowd wants to say.

01:25:51.000 But like you said, the AI is not swinging a hammer.

01:25:54.000 It's very hard to train an AI. You know, it's something a five-year-old can do, which is, like, take a car key and, like, if you tell them what to do, put it in the ignition, right?

01:26:02.000 3D intelligence. A robot, if you don't tell exactly where its starting position is, it has no idea.

01:26:07.000 It's still pretty far away from doing things in the world.

01:26:10.000 But the intellectual stuff, or the linguistic stuff, the language model, chat, GPT, it's like...

01:26:16.000 I mean, I knew this stuff was coming and I was blown away when it happened.

01:26:19.000 The deep fake technology.

01:26:21.000 You've seen these videos. Morgan Freeman.

01:26:22.000 You can make Morgan Freeman and his physical likeness say anything ever.

01:26:26.000 And pretty soon that's going to be undetectable, whether it's doctored or not.

01:26:30.000 Correct. And it has societal implications beyond sort of just academia.

01:26:33.000 I could see it being a huge disaster in sort of...

01:26:36.000 Politics. Politics and criminal justice and all these things where you can...

01:26:42.000 You'll get to a point where you may not be able to tell what's real and what isn't anymore, and therefore how do you act and respond?

01:26:47.000 This is one reason why I was excited to try to get in the U.S. Congress, or I still am.

01:26:54.000 I think we need young tech people to wrestle with these questions and regulate it.

01:26:58.000 Should deepfake technology be banned in politics?

01:27:02.000 Isn't it pretty weird if you can make Joe Biden say anything?

01:27:04.000 Are you saying you don't think Maxine Waters has the intellectual capacity to deal with the advent of AI? Somehow I think she's going to need some help.

01:27:11.000 Somehow, I mean, you saw AOC yesterday in the tech here, basically coming out in favor of repression, censorship.

01:27:18.000 Well, yeah, and to a guy that was the head of trust and safety at Twitter, who seemed to turn a blind eye, and in his own words, oftentimes encouraged, like, pedophilia.

01:27:30.000 I mean, you know, things that... I would have thought, you know, prior to sort of getting into this political journey myself, that I would have been like, dude, that's a 99.999, like the unheard, that's the holy grail of political issues.

01:27:42.000 Like, no one likes pedophiles.

01:27:43.000 You know what? I would have thought that, but you'd be wrong.

01:27:46.000 Like, well, it's okay. They're misunderstood.

01:27:48.000 They're, you know, they're maps.

01:27:49.000 They're minor attracted persons.

01:27:51.000 Like, I was like, I don't know. I sort of think they should be shot, but that's just me. 0.99

01:27:55.000 You know, it's an extreme opinion, but like, I think I'd make an exception for pedophiles. 0.99

01:28:00.000 Um... I can't believe it's even remotely closing yet.

01:28:04.000 This seems to be like a hill to die on for the Democrat Party today.

01:28:08.000 Like I said, we're right on the issues, and I actually think it's always the opposite.

01:28:12.000 They're the extremists pushing this stuff, and the map thing in particular, I mean, it comes from ivory tower academics, and whatever students are learning at Harvard 20 years from now, that's what the left-wing presidential candidates will be parroting.

01:28:32.000 You see where it's going, and it's really, really dangerous.

01:28:36.000 That's why I think it's just super important to stand up for common sense.

01:28:40.000 So you've done that, and you were sort of an early Trump guy, even working on the transition team.

01:28:47.000 How did that happen? What did you see?

01:28:49.000 Any good stories out of that insanity?

01:28:51.000 Because, you know, when people are like, Russia collusion, I'm like, listen, guys, in all fairness, we got into this. 0.96

01:28:56.000 We didn't know shit. We couldn't collude to order a fucking cheeseburger. 0.99

01:28:59.000 We didn't collude with Russia. 1.00

01:29:02.000 I have one story on that.

01:29:03.000 Well, I got into it because Peter, who I was working for at the time, became an early surrogate for...

01:29:08.000 You go fix this. Congratulations.

01:29:11.000 So yeah, between Election Day and Inauguration Day, I was holed up in Trump Tower and next to Steve Bannon and stuff, we were trying to recommend some good scientific and technical people to get into government at various positions.

01:29:24.000 But I remember one meeting I was in, Jared was there, and then Avi, you know Avi.

01:29:31.000 And someone interrupts and says, like, excuse me, Jared, the Russian ambassador's on the phone.

01:29:36.000 And I forget what our meeting was, but that was way more important.

01:29:39.000 So he's like, I don't have time. He didn't care to talk to the Russian about it. 0.63

01:29:43.000 He's like, Avi, go take it.

01:29:44.000 And Avi at the time... Avi's like 23 years old.

01:29:47.000 Avi at the time, it was his first job.

01:29:49.000 Jared's like, go handle that, right?

01:29:51.000 And so I always thought about that when they were doing the crazy Russiagate Mueller investigation.

01:29:55.000 It's just like... No, I saw how little interest there was in colluding when Avi is like talking to the Russian ambassador, right?

01:30:03.000 And so it's just, it was completely fake.

01:30:06.000 I don't know, it was fun. It was like a, it reminded me of a startup, right?

01:30:10.000 Yeah, no, I think it was. Man, had Hillary won, she had the Binders from Goldman Sachs. 0.98

01:30:14.000 It was ready to go. You had the machine, but this was a bunch of smart people in the room trying to figure it out.

01:30:19.000 Maybe it was very chaotic or something, but it also had energy to it.

01:30:23.000 In your father's 2016 campaign, it had energy to it.

01:30:26.000 There was nothing before it in American politics that was quite like that.

01:30:31.000 I think we needed to upend the apple cart, because again, Mitt Romneyism doesn't work.

01:30:34.000 Paul Ryanism doesn't work.

01:30:35.000 It was always better than Hillary Clintonism, but...

01:30:38.000 There was no difference, really.

01:30:40.000 And so this America First, I don't know, it was a privilege to sort of get in at the ground floor and see...

01:30:45.000 No, and that must have been, again, not easy.

01:30:46.000 Even... As someone who worked for Teal, just because of where you came from, right?

01:30:51.000 Tech Stanford, now you're working on the Trump transition.

01:30:53.000 How was that living in San Francisco, I think, at the time, right?

01:30:55.000 Or were you already in Arizona?

01:30:57.000 I was in Arizona, and then I was mostly just based in New York for those couple months.

01:31:02.000 But it was the first time in my life where I met many congressmen and senators.

01:31:05.000 Some of them were interviewing for jobs in the administration.

01:31:09.000 Talk about that. You had dealt with some of the smartest people in the world.

01:31:13.000 Yeah. On a scale of 1 to 10, how impressed were you, generally speaking, with their abilities, their knowledge on issues?

01:31:22.000 I'd give it a blended 6. 0.97

01:31:24.000 That high? That high, but that's an average, right?

01:31:29.000 It's interesting because some of these people are genuinely very impressive, but some are not, and that was the...

01:31:37.000 That was the shocker to me.

01:31:39.000 I'm 30 years old, now I'm meeting this congressman or whatever, and you're just like, oh, that's who's making these laws.

01:31:45.000 We're talking to them about technology, and it's like, man, God help you, you don't even understand this.

01:31:48.000 But the weird thing was, even the ones who really, I think, are quite smart, quite impressive individually, many of them who didn't support Trump in a 2016 run, they were asking me, like, What just happened?

01:32:03.000 And I'm just like some 30-year-old tech guy, right?

01:32:06.000 But I felt like I had my finger a little bit more on the pulse of why the electorate rejected, I'd say, the status quo and Hillary Clinton and put Donald Trump in the White House.

01:32:17.000 And so that was my moment where I realized, hey, whether these representatives are impressive individually or not, most of them did not actually understand the conditions.

01:32:28.000 That caused the America First movement.

01:32:29.000 And a lot of them still don't know. I think more are getting on board and more understand it.

01:32:32.000 Or they're faking it. That's the problem.

01:32:34.000 They sort of say the sound bites.

01:32:36.000 I saw that with the Democrats.

01:32:37.000 I forget who it was. I think it was a congresswoman from Illinois.

01:32:40.000 And she was like, well, I'm going to host wine and cheese parties for the other people running in the Midwest to teach them how to talk to their neighbors. 1.00

01:32:47.000 I'm like, why the fuck would you... 0.99

01:32:48.000 Something about that is very internally... You're your neighbor. 0.99

01:32:51.000 If you want to represent that...

01:32:52.000 I'm the son of a billionaire from Manhattan.

01:32:54.000 I'm doing pretty good. You know, you put me in the Midwest.

01:32:56.000 I'm not from there. I understand what they're looking for.

01:32:59.000 I understand how to talk to them.

01:33:01.000 I'm not supposed to.

01:33:02.000 These people are their neighbors and they had no idea.

01:33:06.000 And that was weird to me.

01:33:08.000 And it was so indicative of the left.

01:33:10.000 I think they can get away with it because they got the machine and everything else to carry them through that.

01:33:15.000 But I guess the problem still exists even in the conservative side.

01:33:18.000 I think so. I think it's very easy for people to get into office and lose touch.

01:33:24.000 It becomes about the cocktail parties in D.C. It becomes about saying the right thing.

01:33:30.000 Probably too many Republican legislators and governors are worried about their own press and therefore captured and controlled a little bit by the media.

01:33:39.000 It's an easy existence to be a weak Republican in D.C. Meaning you can say whatever you want to your people in your backyard, but then when you get to D.C. when they need you and they know you fold, They leave you alone.

01:33:51.000 I guess maybe, speaking of sort of the opposite of what would be the typical U.S. Senator, a mutual friend of ours, I wish you were both in the United States Senate representing the MAGA movement and blowing stuff up, but talk to us about J.D. Vance, because I think he's one of the few guys in the Senate that can do this.

01:34:09.000 And when you think about it, I've had this conversation with friends that are conservative and in the political now, and I'm like, hey man, if you had to share a foxhole with someone in the U.S. Senate, who would it be?

01:34:18.000 And they're like... You know, there's two or three names.

01:34:21.000 Two or three out of 50.

01:34:22.000 You know what I mean? When you're like...

01:34:24.000 I think we have ten good ones, but I would...

01:34:26.000 Listen, I think you're being generous, but I... But JD's the man.

01:34:32.000 He's... I'm so glad he got in.

01:34:34.000 Like, truly, he is the bright spot for me in the November 22 midterms.

01:34:39.000 Correct. That was like... It's a little awkward for me to like...

01:34:40.000 That was one of my pet friends.

01:34:42.000 Yeah, he's like a really good friend, right?

01:34:44.000 Yeah. But I'm proud of him already, and I think he's just going to be, if not the best, probably the best, but certainly a generational senator.

01:34:53.000 Yeah, we can only hope so.

01:34:55.000 We need more like that.

01:34:56.000 We do. Well, listen, I'm glad that you're in this fight.

01:35:02.000 I'm glad that you're continuing to stay engaged.

01:35:06.000 I'm really glad that you're not dissuaded by what happened, that you learned something from it, because I think it's the thought process that you've put into every other aspect of your life that...

01:35:15.000 It can teach us how we need to win and how we need to change and how the old systems and just we do this this way because it's the way we've always done it and there's no real consequence to losing.

01:35:26.000 Works until it doesn't.

01:35:27.000 And it doesn't work anymore.

01:35:29.000 Well, I look forward to seeing a lot of what you have to do and in the meantime I hope You take the business acumen and the connections and the knowledge that you have to help grow some of that parallel economy as well.

01:35:42.000 Because that's a big focus of mine right now, seeing what's out there.

01:35:46.000 But as long as sort of woke corporate America is against the basic tenets of the American economy, That's right.

01:35:55.000 Dream, the Constitution, freedom of speech.

01:35:58.000 I don't feel right supporting it, so we'll do whatever we can to help try to support that.

01:36:02.000 We didn't create that. We didn't choose it.

01:36:03.000 It's sad to see, but there it is.

01:36:05.000 But hey, this is the battlefield.

01:36:07.000 Now we've got to fight. That's right. So, Blake, thank you very much for doing this, man, and look forward to having you back on as you continue to take over the world.

01:36:14.000 Absolutely. Thanks, sir. Okay, guys, that was an awesome interview.

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01:39:35.000 She was pretty successful for a long time at it before I took her on this ridiculous journey campaigning all over the country. 1.00

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