Triggered - Donald Trump Jr - June 15, 2026


White House Fight Night, Plus Interview with Power the Future’s Daniel Turner! | Triggered Ep.350


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00:05:11.000 Thank you.
00:05:29.000 Hey guys, welcome to another huge episode of Triggered.
00:05:31.000 I hope that everyone had an incredible weekend.
00:05:35.000 We had an amazing night last night at the White House for the UFC 250 fight night.
00:05:42.000 And it also happened to be my father's 80th birthday.
00:05:47.000 We saw the UFC throw a fight card on the south lawn of the White House, honestly, like I've never seen before.
00:05:54.000 It was spectacular.
00:05:55.000 Seven fights, all ended in finishes, right?
00:05:59.000 So no judges' decisions, anything like that.
00:06:02.000 And yet, Justin Gaetje came in as a six to one underdog and as an American six to one underdog and beat Ilya Tropea in an incredible match that, again, no one thought he could possibly win.
00:06:17.000 No one thought it could happen.
00:06:18.000 But the American winning in the last fight against all odds, I mean, it really doesn't get any better than that.
00:06:26.000 I mean, you couldn't script it better.
00:06:30.000 And before the conspiracy theorists started saying it was scripted, it was like, I don't know, man, if you saw Ilya's face coming out of that thing, I don't think that was scripted.
00:06:36.000 No, that was a rough, rough fight, but it was amazing and it'll probably never happen again.
00:06:43.000 So I think I got to see one of the most spectacular fights, most spectacular sporting events, probably in history.
00:06:52.000 And it was a one and done, probably never going to happen again because I don't think, frankly, anyone will ever have the balls to do that again.
00:06:58.000 You had the cage, the octagon on the lawn, the flag in the air, 13 plane F 18 flyover from the Blue Angels.
00:07:09.000 By the way, the whole thing funded by the UFC because I saw all the haters and all of that nonsense.
00:07:15.000 Oh, what's it costing the American taxpayers?
00:07:17.000 Like, nah, that was, you know, funded by the UFC.
00:07:21.000 Just a spectacular event.
00:07:25.000 The whole country was watching.
00:07:26.000 I saw up to, I guess, 160 million people watching.
00:07:29.000 That's like Super Bowl levels.
00:07:31.000 You know, I'll talk about what it all actually means because it's bigger than just a fight, okay?
00:07:37.000 Plus, big news out of Iran an MOU is signed and We'll get into what that means for you because I know everyone's concerned about that, as they should be.
00:07:47.000 With our guest, Daniel Turner.
00:07:49.000 He's the founder and executive director of Power of the Future, a big energy conversation, what that ultimately means for prices back home.
00:07:56.000 So it's a big show.
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00:08:19.000 For all of the top headlines that we cover here on the show, go over to my news app, MXM News, like minute by minute, where you can get the mainstream news without the mainstream bias.
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00:09:42.000 So, before we get into our guest, let's get into some more of the top headlines.
00:09:47.000 And again, I want to start with last night because I was there, okay?
00:09:51.000 The UFC on the South Lawn of the White House.
00:09:54.000 A real fight card, real fighters, a cage built in the same grass where the president takes questions usually every day.
00:10:01.000 Where Joe Biden took at least questions maybe once or twice during his term to mark the 250 years of this country.
00:10:08.000 They called it Freedom 250, and it landed on my father's 80th birthday, Flag Day.
00:10:15.000 It was awesome.
00:10:17.000 Check this out.
00:10:19.000 Gentlemen, at this time, please rise as today's colors are presented by the Joint Armed Forces Color Guard from the Military District of Washington.
00:11:19.000 past presidents, the people running this country acted embarrassed by stuff like this, right?
00:11:22.000 They're embarrassed by the flag, embarrassed by the fans, embarrassed by the sports normal people actually watch, and the towns they actually live in.
00:11:31.000 They treated patriotism like it was something you apologize for at a dinner party.
00:11:35.000 But now you have a president who looked at the 250th birthday of the United States and said, you know what?
00:11:42.000 Let's make it loud, let's make it proud, let's make it fun, let's put it on the front lawn, and let's invite the whole country to watch.
00:11:51.000 Here's some more from the events last night.
00:12:05.000 I can assure you, as cool as that looked in person, it was so much better.
00:12:10.000 Like I said earlier, I've been blessed to go to some incredible sporting events.
00:12:15.000 I've seen most of them.
00:12:17.000 There is nothing like this, nor will there ever be again.
00:12:20.000 But look, guys, the regime media, they absolutely lost it this week.
00:12:25.000 They don't hate that it's a big event, they hate that it's popular, right?
00:12:29.000 They hate that it's the UFC, they hate that it's American, they hate that it's not some Pride Month fest, and they really hate it.
00:12:38.000 That the guy throwing the party clearly loves the country instead of resenting it.
00:12:43.000 The fighters, the fans, the leagues, the people in the stands, that whole world used to be told to shut up and stay out of politics.
00:12:51.000 And last night, they got to watch their country throw itself a birthday party with a cage in the middle of it and a crowd that was not apologizing for a single second of it.
00:13:03.000 It was a celebration of strength and gratitude at the same time.
00:13:07.000 The other side has never understood that you can actually do both.
00:13:11.000 So that's where we start the week.
00:13:13.000 A country that, for the first time in a long time, actually seems to like itself.
00:13:19.000 And that swagger isn't just for the cameras, because while everyone was watching the cage on the lawn, my father quietly went and did his thing in Washington.
00:13:28.000 The thing that Washington, frankly, spent 40 years swearing could not be done.
00:13:32.000 While the left was complaining about the fight on the lawn, forgetting that last time they had big events on the lawn, it was like trainies showing their breasts.
00:13:43.000 In public, and they said how brave and wonderful that was.
00:13:45.000 I don't know.
00:13:46.000 I'll take this any day.
00:13:48.000 And the leftists that are also trying to say, oh, this is so terrible.
00:13:51.000 This is, you know, guys, do yourselves a favor.
00:13:55.000 Literally do not criticize the optics of probably the coolest thing that's ever happened at the White House.
00:13:59.000 Okay.
00:13:59.000 It's not a good look.
00:14:00.000 Okay.
00:14:01.000 It's not going to work.
00:14:02.000 No one believes it and no one's seeing it.
00:14:04.000 But while they're complaining, my father was actually getting stuff done.
00:14:08.000 For my entire adult life, every president treated Iran like the weather, something you Complain about, you manage, you hand off to the next guy, nothing really gets solved, nothing ever gets done.
00:14:18.000 Nobody ever solved it.
00:14:19.000 They contained it, they appeased it, they wrote it checks and crossed their fingers. 0.54
00:14:23.000 My father drew a red line one day Iran will never have a nuclear weapon. 0.96
00:14:28.000 And then, unlike every single one of them, he actually enforced it.
00:14:34.000 A few weeks of real pressure in Operation Epic Fury, and Iran's nuclear program is in the ruins.
00:14:40.000 Their military is on its back, and their economy is on the floor. 0.98
00:14:44.000 That's why they came to the table.
00:14:46.000 Not because someone asked nicely, but because they had no other options left.
00:14:51.000 Okay?
00:14:53.000 And now it's in writing.
00:14:54.000 And again, I'm not a guy that's in favor of wars.
00:14:56.000 I campaign against getting out of all of these things, but you can't let some of these things drip on for 47 years.
00:15:03.000 And now it seems that after a few weeks, we got real results.
00:15:07.000 And it's writing.
00:15:08.000 Iran commits on paper to no nuclear weapon.
00:15:11.000 The international inspectors are back in, and that pile of highly enriched material gets.
00:15:17.000 Neutralized under the supervision, so it can't be the fast lane to a bomb anymore.
00:15:24.000 And here's the part that matters most to me we ended the fighting on America's terms on every front.
00:15:30.000 No endless occupation, no nation building, no babysitting.
00:15:35.000 American strength used to actually solve the problem.
00:15:39.000 Check out what JD Vance had to say on it on CNN today. 0.98
00:15:42.000 This fundamentally set up a structure whereby if the Iranians behave like a normal country, then we want to treat Them like a normal country and welcome them into the world economy.
00:15:51.000 What paragraph one of the agreement says is effectively that Iran commits itself, just as the United States commits itself, to regional peace and stability.
00:15:59.000 And part of that, Jake, is that the Iranians have to stop funding violent terrorist organizations.
00:16:04.000 They have to stop funding regional instability.
00:16:07.000 But the important thing about this agreement, Jake, is that everything from what Iran gives us on the nuclear program, and of course, that's the most important thing is the commitment verifiable to never building a nuclear weapon.
00:16:18.000 All of these things come along with benefits if Iran delivers and nothing if Iran doesn't deliver.
00:16:24.000 So we certainly expect that as part of our broader agreement, Jake, Iran is going to stop funding terrorist organizations.
00:16:31.000 Most importantly, they're going to have a verifiable commitment to not building a nuclear weapon.
00:16:35.000 But the good thing about the way that we've set this up is that we have the leverage here.
00:16:39.000 We have the ability to welcome them into the world economy if they perform.
00:16:44.000 We also have the ability to say, you know what, you don't get anything if you don't meet your end of the obligation.
00:16:50.000 And guys, you're going to feel this one personally.
00:16:52.000 The Straits of Hormuz, the choke point that moves a fifth of the world's oil, is reopening. 0.57
00:16:58.000 And here's how my father built it Iran does the cleanup, Iran clears its own mines, and it runs step for step. 0.82
00:17:07.000 As Iran reopens that lane, we ease off the proportions. 0.71
00:17:12.000 And not one second sooner.
00:17:15.000 When they act, when they do the right thing, we do the right thing in return.
00:17:19.000 The leverage stays in American hands the entire way.
00:17:23.000 And nobody is handing Iran a thing up front.
00:17:26.000 This is not Obama loading pallets of cash onto a plane in the dead of the night.
00:17:30.000 Iran only earns anything tangible after it performs and after the inspectors verify every step.
00:17:38.000 No performance, no payoff. 0.81
00:17:40.000 Okay.
00:17:41.000 The last deal paid the regime and left us with nothing.
00:17:44.000 This one is much different.
00:17:46.000 Okay.
00:17:46.000 And I see online, I see all the chatter.
00:17:48.000 Oh, they're giving them lots of money, yada, yada, yada.
00:17:50.000 No, we're letting people invest into the country, right?
00:17:54.000 There's a difference in investing than giving, right?
00:17:56.000 Obama gave them and Biden and those guys are sending over planes.
00:17:59.000 What was it, $8 billion?
00:18:01.000 This is a little different.
00:18:03.000 We can reinvest into companies.
00:18:05.000 An investment is very different than paying someone off.
00:18:08.000 So don't believe everything that you read online because I've watched both.
00:18:12.000 Frankly, I've seen more of it from the neocons and the Republican warmongers that would love to be mired in a war for 30 years, and some of the other countries that would love us in a prolonged battle with Iran for the next 30 years.
00:18:26.000 Those talking points are very different than the reality, but I'm sure you guys have figured a lot of that stuff out.
00:18:32.000 Remember the Obama deal, right?
00:18:34.000 It was never even signed.
00:18:35.000 Everyone talks about that deal, it was so great.
00:18:37.000 It was never even signed.
00:18:39.000 My father's is signed.
00:18:40.000 Obama negotiated with their whole program intact and paid them to leave it sitting there, which is exactly what.
00:18:46.000 Why they could sprint for a bomb the second it fell apart. 0.83
00:18:50.000 My father tore the program down first, got it in writing, brought our Gulf partners in instead of going behind their backs, and built it right on the foundation of the Abraham Accords. 0.51
00:19:03.000 And speaking of fights that are being settled, down in Venezuela, we're working diligently with Delcy Rodriguez's government. 0.72
00:19:11.000 The U.S. government is doing that to take out narco terrorist Trendel Aragua leaders.
00:19:17.000 Just let that sink in for a second.
00:19:18.000 Let that sentence sink in.
00:19:21.000 We're actually working with Venezuela to take out drug cartels.
00:19:25.000 Check this out.
00:19:35.000 That right there is Neo Guerrero, or I guess I should say was Neo Guerrero.
00:19:41.000 The man who turned a Venezuelan prison gang, Trendel Araga, into a transactional and transitional army that spread out of Venezuela, across Latin America, into American cities, and all the way to Spain.
00:19:55.000 The monsters who preyed on people like 12 year old Jocelyn Nungare and 22 year old Lake and Riley.
00:20:04.000 Those are the people.
00:20:06.000 We're basically allowing them to do those things.
00:20:08.000 And on my father's direction, Southern Command put a kinetic strike right on top of his compound and took him off the board.
00:20:17.000 Now, think about the contrast for one second, okay? 0.98
00:20:20.000 For four years, the last crowd threw the border wide open and let this foreign army walk right into our country. 0.94
00:20:28.000 My father designated Trinidad and Tobago a terrorist organization on day one, and now the guy who built it is gone. 0.95
00:20:39.000 Over, okay? 0.87
00:20:40.000 A swift, lethal strike coordinated with our partners in Venezuela.
00:20:45.000 And finally, there's some justice for the family.
00:20:49.000 Still just the beginning, but that's a big one.
00:20:52.000 That is what a founded, unleashed law enforcement and military actually looks like.
00:21:00.000 And it's exactly what the Democrats spent 115 days trying to take away from you.
00:21:07.000 Check this out.
00:21:07.000 I want to talk about the Democrats' credibility on keeping America safe.
00:21:12.000 Come on, let's laugh.
00:21:13.000 During the last administration, they had open borders.
00:21:15.000 They let terrorists flood this country that were still arresting every single day.
00:21:19.000 And by the way, the agency that was arresting them, ICE and CBP, they made sure they defunded them for 114 days and all the Department of Homeland Security for 76 days.
00:21:31.000 And so they can have all the rhetoric.
00:21:33.000 Jeffries can say everything he wants to say.
00:21:35.000 Reid can say what he wants to say.
00:21:37.000 Schumer can say whatever they want.
00:21:39.000 They had zero credibility.
00:21:40.000 We know they're about defunding the police and they're more.
00:21:43.000 Interested, Shannon, in protecting criminals and illegals on our streets than they are about actually protecting law abiding citizens and their constituents.
00:21:52.000 Guys, that's the whole fight in one sentence.
00:21:55.000 One side wanted to fund the people who arrest violent criminals.
00:21:59.000 The other side spent 115 days, remember the shutdown, trying to defund them.
00:22:06.000 And now wants you to forget that it ever happened.
00:22:11.000 We won't.
00:22:12.000 We've got the receipts.
00:22:14.000 And here's the bridge to the rest of the show.
00:22:17.000 Because once you understand that fight, you understand the next one.
00:22:21.000 It's the same instinct.
00:22:22.000 They don't want you to look too closely at where the money actually goes.
00:22:28.000 So let's follow some of the money.
00:22:32.000 This weekend, the Interior Department put out the results of a review that most people missed.
00:22:38.000 They went through roughly 2,000 groups that were getting federal money under Joe Biden, the so called nonprofits.
00:22:48.000 And what they found is that a bunch of these outfits were getting basically all, all of their revenue from the taxpayer, 100% of it.
00:22:57.000 Then turning around and paying their executives $450,000 a year to push ESG, DEI, climate activism, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, with your money.
00:23:12.000 That stops now.
00:23:14.000 Check out Secretary Burgum on it.
00:23:16.000 The work that we started last year, right after we stepped in at the beginning of President Trump's administration.
00:23:22.000 What we were left, like virtually every cabinet agency, was a complete mess from the Biden administration.
00:23:28.000 And of course, even from the time that President Trump was elected to the time that Joe Biden had his last day in office, there were record amounts of grants flowing out the door.
00:23:37.000 We looked at those last year.
00:23:39.000 There were some organizations that received grants from the Department of Interior where we were 100% of their revenue.
00:23:45.000 We were 100% of their revenue.
00:23:47.000 So they really weren't a nonprofit.
00:23:49.000 They were an organization created to receive money, or they actually just, we were the majority.
00:23:55.000 And then they would pay their CEO $450,000.
00:23:58.000 They'd pay lobbyists.
00:23:59.000 They had People working for them were getting paid more than anybody inside the Department of Interior.
00:24:03.000 And then they would do things like lobby us for more grants, or in many cases, they would hire lawyers to sue us to stop the administration's priorities.
00:24:12.000 So this continuation, this year we just completed a very extensive review, looked at 2,000 organizations which had 3,000 agreements.
00:24:20.000 We combed through all of those.
00:24:21.000 And if they were using funds coming from this administration against us or against the priorities of the administration, we've cut ties with them.
00:24:30.000 And because they were doing everything from climate extremism to DEI, ESG, you name it.
00:24:37.000 And they were doing it.
00:24:37.000 It was all opposed to what the American people voted for and what President Trump promised the American people we would do.
00:24:44.000 And so.
00:24:47.000 So let's be clear about what that is.
00:24:50.000 That's not charity.
00:24:51.000 That's not saving the planet.
00:24:53.000 That's a money laundromat.
00:24:55.000 The government takes your tax dollars, runs them through a nonprofit.
00:25:00.000 With a nice green logo, the nonprofit pays an activist class a fortune, and the activist class spends it lobbying for the exact policies that make your life more expensive.
00:25:12.000 You pay in, they cash out, and the planet is exactly where it was.
00:25:17.000 No benefit, other than I guess they get to exercise their political will more effectively with billions of your taxpayer dollars.
00:25:24.000 And up in New York, you've got a governor in Kathy Hochul presiding over some of the highest energy bills in the country.
00:25:31.000 And the answer from that crowd is always the same more mandates, more green programs, and somehow it's never their fault, right?
00:25:39.000 It's never their fault.
00:25:42.000 There are realistic things she could do tomorrow to bring these bills down, but she won't because the activist class I just described won't let her.
00:25:51.000 And here to explain that, and frankly, probably a lot more, is Daniel Turner, founder and executive director of Power the Future.
00:25:59.000 Daniel, thanks for being back, man.
00:26:00.000 Really appreciate it.
00:26:01.000 Great to be back with you, Don.
00:26:02.000 Thanks for having me.
00:26:04.000 Well, let's start with the big picture, right?
00:26:06.000 There appears to be some agreement regarding Iran.
00:26:10.000 It's a big deal.
00:26:11.000 What do you think the impact is on oil first and foremost, and really trickle that down into people's wallets?
00:26:19.000 How long will that take to show up at the pump?
00:26:22.000 Oil markets have been desperate for a sign of stability in the region.
00:26:26.000 And as soon as that was announced, the president announced yesterday that they had come to an agreement.
00:26:32.000 Oil markets open at 6 p.m. on Sunday Eastern Time.
00:26:36.000 And as soon as markets opened last night, oil dropped to $80 a barrel.
00:26:42.000 I think it closed just above at $81.
00:26:44.000 And that's a clear sign.
00:26:46.000 Oil markets know that $100 a barrel oil was unsustainable, but they have jitters.
00:26:51.000 And the jitters weren't being resolved until the situation is resolved.
00:26:55.000 You know, if it stays at this price for the next couple of days and there's no reason why it won't, you'll see gas prices drop by next Monday and drop significantly.
00:27:05.000 I mean, I'm talking 35, 40 cents a gallon over the next couple of days.
00:27:09.000 And therefore, you know, we'll continue in that direction.
00:27:12.000 If you recall, and the audience recalls, you know, when the president was inaugurated on the 20th of January back in 2025, it was within a couple of weeks that we saw oil hit $65 a barrel, that gas was under $3 a barrel.
00:27:26.000 So much so that at the first address to Congress, right, it couldn't be called a State of the Union, it was the joint address to Congress.
00:27:33.000 The president was bragging about it, and rightfully so, because markets responded to a positive outlook.
00:27:40.000 So there's a positive outlook right now, and it will trickle down into the economy.
00:27:44.000 And it's great that we have finally gotten to this point.
00:27:46.000 Yeah, no, I think it's huge.
00:27:47.000 I mean, I'm seeing sort of on X, you know, some of the outrage, like, hey, man, our super long oil futures and everything like that.
00:27:54.000 They came down.
00:27:55.000 It's like, well, you know, we all said we don't want to be on a never ending thing.
00:27:58.000 We want to get this thing done and resolved.
00:27:59.000 There's, you know, to anything, frankly, there's always some short term pain.
00:28:05.000 But I mean, that can be a really significant thing.
00:28:08.000 And then, you know, if you're only talking about 45 cents over the next couple of weeks, imagine what could happen over the next couple of months.
00:28:14.000 I mean, that's the big one.
00:28:14.000 Exactly.
00:28:15.000 Yeah, exactly.
00:28:16.000 It's just going to continue in that direction as it did in the first couple of months.
00:28:20.000 Of the president's second term.
00:28:22.000 And I remind people all the time, these last three months have been bad.
00:28:25.000 There's no doubt about it.
00:28:26.000 No one likes higher prices.
00:28:27.000 No one likes higher utility bills.
00:28:29.000 We're all in agreement with that.
00:28:31.000 But I remind folks all the time when they say, like, we're paying a lot for this war. 0.62
00:28:35.000 We've paid a lot for the last 47 years of the Iranian regime. 0.89
00:28:39.000 Just get on an airplane, right? 0.94
00:28:41.000 Go to a baseball game.
00:28:42.000 Every time you're getting pat down, every time you're taking off your shoes, every time a woman is stopped and they have to search her handbag, if you take the subway in New York City, That's all threats of terrorism. 0.97
00:28:53.000 All of that's funded by Iran, right? 0.91
00:28:55.000 Every time there's an IED thrown into a crowd, like there were two in New York City a couple of months ago, right? 0.94
00:29:01.000 All of that is funded by Iran. 0.96
00:29:03.000 So when they say, like, we're paying a lot, we've paid a lot for this. 0.98
00:29:07.000 And to have it removed, hopefully forever from the world stage, from your livelihood, it would be nice to think we could get to a point that we don't have to inspect each other because we're worried of terrorist threats.
00:29:19.000 The terrorist threats are eliminated, like the drug cartels are being eliminated.
00:29:24.000 I think that's a resolution the American people want.
00:29:27.000 That's a really good point.
00:29:28.000 And, you know, I never even thought of it that way.
00:29:30.000 I mean, there are other costs to not actually dealing with this that you don't necessarily think about in your day to day life, but it's huge. 0.71
00:29:36.000 And then you compound that with, you know, the thousands of American veterans that were killed or wounded by Iranian funded IED attacks, the way they were able to prolong the Iraq and Afghan war by funding the terrorist groups that did that. 0.71
00:29:52.000 I mean, that cost us trillions. 0.67
00:29:53.000 So, yeah, like, you know what?
00:29:54.000 If we can eliminate that for all time, Get them functioning as JD said, like a normal country.
00:30:01.000 I mean, the cost of that straight lined over the next decade is a huge, huge savings relative to a couple months of higher gas prices.
00:30:12.000 It is.
00:30:13.000 And when you compare or add to that what we've done in Venezuela, when you add to that American production increases, opening up Alaska, opening up the outer continental shelf, opening up and expanding the Gulf of America, right?
00:30:26.000 America now controls the world's oil and gas supply.
00:30:30.000 And that's a good thing.
00:30:31.000 If you think America is a force for good, you do, I do, your audience does.
00:30:35.000 There are sadly a lot of folks, especially a lot of elected Democrats, who don't think America is a force for good.
00:30:41.000 And so they will fight that.
00:30:42.000 But if you think we are the good guys in this battle, then we're controlling the world's oil and gas supply.
00:30:48.000 And that means America and American interests will decide what countries use it and for what purpose. 0.82
00:30:54.000 And you know, maybe the communist Chinese don't have a ready supply of oil and gas because Venezuela and Iran aren't sending it to them. 0.84
00:31:01.000 Maybe the Ayatollahs never emerge again, rich and powerful. 0.59
00:31:05.000 These are all really good things if you genuinely believe in world peace and world stability. 0.74
00:31:10.000 And the funny thing is, in this whole conversation, you know, Democrats are going to do what they do.
00:31:15.000 It's elections, it's politics.
00:31:17.000 The president's the perfect foil.
00:31:19.000 But deep down inside, they're all thrilled because they want to get to a presidential debate in the future where they aren't asked about, you know, if you were elected president, how would you handle a threat from Morant?
00:31:30.000 There is no more threat from Morant, right?
00:31:31.000 So they can talk about other issues.
00:31:33.000 The president's taking off the table problems that have persisted for decades, and everybody is happy about that.
00:31:41.000 I think that's a really good point and an important one.
00:31:44.000 And I think also it's not just oil and gas, oil and gas being a key component of pretty much everything, right?
00:31:51.000 We talk about the grocery store, we talk about these things.
00:31:54.000 Well, if your transportation costs go up, those things go up.
00:31:56.000 So it's not just you're saving at the pump, you're saving across the board every time you shop.
00:32:03.000 Absolutely, because everything is transported, grown, irrigated, cultivated, and that requires energy and abundant, cheap energy.
00:32:10.000 Makes for abundant, inexpensive goods.
00:32:13.000 And we saw this in the first year and three months of the president's second term.
00:32:18.000 I understand what he had to do in Iran.
00:32:20.000 Hopefully, it's resolving itself.
00:32:22.000 But we will get back to those days of lower costs because cheap energy, abundant energy, lowers the costs of everything.
00:32:30.000 So there's a lot of reason to be optimistic.
00:32:33.000 Even if you don't believe me, believe markets.
00:32:36.000 Markets are really smart.
00:32:37.000 That's why Adam Smith called them that invisible hand, right?
00:32:40.000 And oil markets see the future and they are optimistic.
00:32:44.000 And that's a really good sign.
00:32:46.000 That's a great point as well, Daniel.
00:32:47.000 I mean, what is it about the straight that moves oil prices so much?
00:32:53.000 And what do you think sort of the ideal price for oil right now?
00:32:56.000 How do you come up with that calculus?
00:32:57.000 I mean, obviously the markets are going to do that, but where do you think that really settles down, assuming this all holds and sticks?
00:33:04.000 It depends upon who you ask, right?
00:33:05.000 If you ask producers, it's always going to be a little higher than consumers, but there is a sweet spot, and it's $68 to $78 a barrel.
00:33:14.000 If oil gets to be chewed, Cheap.
00:33:17.000 That's great for us, but it's bad for producers.
00:33:19.000 And eventually they will start firing people.
00:33:22.000 They will not buy future contracts.
00:33:25.000 I tell people all the time the oil you're pumping, the gas you're pumping into your car right now, that was drilled seven years ago.
00:33:31.000 Really?
00:33:32.000 You're finally putting into your car.
00:33:33.000 Really?
00:33:34.000 Is that long?
00:33:35.000 Yeah, five to seven years is the average length between when you acquire land and you actually bring oil to the market.
00:33:43.000 I know you meant from when you started pumping it.
00:33:46.000 I was like, that makes sense.
00:33:49.000 Now the oil.
00:33:50.000 The oil you're putting in your car right now was probably just refined a couple of days ago, but that was drilled years ago.
00:33:57.000 This is a huge, you know, and cumbersome and slow and complicated industry.
00:34:03.000 And it's tens of millions of dollars of investment.
00:34:05.000 So oil can't get too cheap because then you'll stop investing in it and we'll stop producing it.
00:34:11.000 And then the prices will skyrocket.
00:34:12.000 And when they skyrocket, there's no way to turn it on really quickly, right?
00:34:16.000 So there is a really delicate nuance.
00:34:20.000 And if you don't know what you're doing and Democrats don't, You are an interloper.
00:34:26.000 You stick your nose in and you meddle and you muck everything up.
00:34:29.000 And the Biden administration mucked everything up.
00:34:32.000 So it's going to take years to undo what he could do in a matter of hours, right?
00:34:38.000 Every time you deny quarterly land leases and Deb Holland denied them regularly, you're pushing into the future proper drilling production schedules.
00:34:49.000 Yeah, or canceling things like the Keystone Pipeline, right?
00:34:51.000 I mean, you're right.
00:34:53.000 You can have some volatility because of something like this for a few weeks.
00:34:57.000 But, you know, four years of a presidency that's basically going against the entire energy market is truly scary because you're right.
00:35:03.000 People won't invest.
00:35:04.000 They won't drill again.
00:35:05.000 And now you say, hey, it's open.
00:35:06.000 But yeah, good luck.
00:35:07.000 You still have to get in the ground.
00:35:08.000 Nothing happens overnight in that world.
00:35:10.000 And Keystone is such a great point.
00:35:12.000 I'm glad you mentioned it because, you know, I felt it very personally.
00:35:16.000 We talked to a lot of those guys.
00:35:17.000 We were down there.
00:35:18.000 We put them all over media and told their story.
00:35:21.000 And it was devastating for the thousands of guys who lost their job.
00:35:24.000 But something Biden did, which is harder for people to grasp.
00:35:28.000 Is he set this really vicious precedent that now, if you want to build something that cannot get completed in a presidential term, don't.
00:35:39.000 Because Gavin Newsom will run, if President Trump grants another Keystone permit tomorrow, Gavin Newsom will run on it.
00:35:45.000 And he will say, when I'm elected president, I will shut that down.
00:35:48.000 Who's going to invest $10 billion into something the president can shut down if the wrong party gets into power?
00:35:55.000 And we never used to do that to each other.
00:35:57.000 You know, Democrats never used to do it to industry, but now they will.
00:36:01.000 And so, You know, people look at the Hoover Dam.
00:36:04.000 We used to build great things.
00:36:06.000 Who the hell's going to build anything that can't get accomplished in a four year term? 1.00
00:36:10.000 Because those idiots are going to run on shutting it down. 1.00
00:36:13.000 And there goes your investment. 1.00
00:36:14.000 They lost billions of dollars in Keystone.
00:36:17.000 Who's ever going to build a Keystone again, right?
00:36:20.000 That's what Biden left us as his legacy. 0.97
00:36:23.000 That and the bare breasted transvestites on the lawn, those are the legacies of the Biden administration. 1.00
00:36:29.000 Yeah, no, and it's true. 0.88
00:36:30.000 And we don't talk about the cost of not having done that, right?
00:36:33.000 Being able to transport cheap energy to America, create Jobs for American workers.
00:36:37.000 I mean, you know, it all adds up.
00:36:39.000 You only see, you know, the one component of it, but, you know, that was tens of thousands of hardworking, you know, American jobs just gone.
00:36:47.000 And you're right.
00:36:48.000 Who's going to do that?
00:36:49.000 You say, hey, Trump's going to be great, but, you know, in two and a half years, who's going to be the next guy?
00:36:54.000 No one's sinking in that kind of big investment.
00:36:55.000 That's 100% true.
00:36:58.000 Yeah.
00:36:58.000 And it's devastating for this industry, which requires years and time and cooperation with government, right?
00:37:06.000 I'm not an anarchist.
00:37:07.000 I have a deep dislike for big government.
00:37:09.000 Most of us do.
00:37:10.000 Deep dislike for the federal government, most of us do, but but there is a proper role for this.
00:37:15.000 But now, if your government's going to be weaponized against well, weaponized against people, as you know better than most, but also weaponized against industries, right?
00:37:24.000 How are we supposed to function if and and this is what Democrats' wheels are turning, right?
00:37:29.000 How can I take this more?
00:37:30.000 You see, Democrats say if I'm elected, I'm going to blow up that ballroom. 0.71
00:37:34.000 What the hell does that even mean? 0.99
00:37:36.000 Like, you would knock down the ballroom just out of spite, and we know it's a lot of crap, they're not going to, but but they campaign on this, so. 0.98
00:37:45.000 Industry is petrified about the future if this is the way government's going to treat them. 0.91
00:37:50.000 Yeah, it's interesting.
00:37:51.000 You always think about sort of the Democrats and regulatory overreach and red tape making things difficult.
00:37:57.000 But this is actually worse because it impacts future investment.
00:38:00.000 It's not just the time it takes to get something done, saying, fine, it may take me a little bit longer.
00:38:04.000 This is the, hey, I could go through all of that, get it done, be in process, and then just have it shut down, which is a thousand times worse than just dealing with the bureaucratic rigmarole that they probably have to deal with all the time.
00:38:15.000 Absolutely.
00:38:16.000 And you mentioned in your intro these environmental groups that used to be taxpayer funded that start a lot of this nonsense, right?
00:38:24.000 They get a grant from USAID that's supposed to go to X and it ends up going here and it goes there.
00:38:29.000 And everyone gets to hide through their nonprofit laws, which need major reform.
00:38:34.000 And the next thing you know, you've got this environmental group suing you and they have nothing to lose in the process, right?
00:38:39.000 Yeah, they're playing with house money, right?
00:38:41.000 There's no downside.
00:38:43.000 They're getting their paycheck no matter what. 0.97
00:38:45.000 So they just break balls for a living. 0.73
00:38:47.000 Yeah. 0.76
00:38:47.000 And you're spending tens of millions of dollars defending yourself. 0.76
00:38:51.000 And then, you know, they rule in your favor.
00:38:53.000 Eventually, it gets thrown out, but there's no recompense.
00:38:57.000 You're not recuperating your losses.
00:39:00.000 And this is where we need a Congress that actually tries to fix things.
00:39:03.000 There's a great piece of legislation that's introduced by Representative Hageman in the House and Senator Ted Cruz in the Senate to sort of combat this, to say you can't have these third party groups, right?
00:39:14.000 I can't sue Bill to sue Don Jr., right?
00:39:17.000 If you want to sue Don Jr., you have to, right?
00:39:21.000 You can't start funding groups to do your dirty work for you.
00:39:24.000 And there's a lot of nonprofit abuse, especially when it comes to big bad oil, right?
00:39:30.000 So you find these, and a lot of it is Chinese funded, a lot of it is Russian funded.
00:39:35.000 You find these third party groups that are engaged in this abuse of our judicial system, and it has to stop.
00:39:41.000 So, Daniel, I mean, we talk about corporate stuff all the time, but you've spent years standing up for the guys who actually produce the energy the oil and gas workers, the coal guys, the people in those rural towns that the Democrats have forgotten all about it.
00:39:57.000 When the greed movement was at its peak under Obama Biden, what happened to those workers?
00:40:03.000 And what do you want people in the cities to understand about them?
00:40:07.000 Because it's so easy to be negative on this.
00:40:11.000 You've seen how they've done that so effectively.
00:40:13.000 But talk about that and why this matters more than ever.
00:40:19.000 Yeah, thank you.
00:40:20.000 I mean, sincerely, because this is why I started Power of the Future, because they were the ones left behind, right?
00:40:26.000 A bunch of folks from New York.
00:40:28.000 York and San Francisco decided we were going to shut down coal and they successfully did that again through these third party groups.
00:40:35.000 And they went into these rural towns all across America and shut down the one source of income for these folks and left them destitute, right?
00:40:44.000 There's no other industry wasn't moving there for 10, 15 years, right?
00:40:50.000 Their mortgages were then underwater.
00:40:52.000 Their schools closed.
00:40:54.000 The opioid epidemic hit.
00:40:56.000 And why opioids?
00:40:57.000 Because opioids are really cheap and they punch really hard.
00:41:00.000 And if you're a 40 year old guy and You were a coal miner and your dad and your brothers, and everyone in town is a coal miner, but there is no coal to mine. 0.98
00:41:08.000 Bruce Springsteen used to sing songs about this crap, but he's become one of the bad guys now. 0.94
00:41:13.000 But what do you do? 1.00
00:41:15.000 You fall into poverty.
00:41:16.000 You fall into alcoholism.
00:41:17.000 You fall into suicide.
00:41:19.000 And we've done this all across rural America. 0.76
00:41:21.000 If you remember the great and really sad speech that Joe Burroughs gave when he got the Heisman Trophy win, and he talked about growing up in poor Southeast Ohio, his whole life, all he saw were coal towns.
00:41:34.000 Close coal mine the whole Obama year, the all the Obama years, coal mine after coal mine.
00:41:39.000 Joe Burroughs didn't grow up in a poor town, he grew up in a town that was allowed by bad government policies to become poor.
00:41:47.000 And then we, you know, we told these people, We're gonna job train you, we'll give you a job in the green economy. 0.98
00:41:52.000 That's all a load of crap, right? 0.91
00:41:53.000 Remember the balls of John Kerry to say on day one after Keystone, Well, now they have the option to work in the green economy, right? 0.99
00:42:00.000 That's that's the disdain they have for those folks, and you know what those folks love.
00:42:05.000 They love UFC, and that's why they hate it last night, also, because these are the things that resonate with regular America, and they hate these people with every fiber of their being.
00:42:15.000 It's the huge disconnect between the elite, which isn't just wealth disconnect.
00:42:21.000 Donald Trump's pretty darn rich, and he connects with these folks.
00:42:24.000 There's an intellectual, a patriotic, and emotional disconnect that we're experiencing as a country.
00:42:31.000 And these people have so much power to lord over the rest of us, and it's doing great damage to us as a nation.
00:42:37.000 That's a great point.
00:42:39.000 You mentioned it a little bit earlier, but let's talk permitting because I think people hear that word and they just kind of tune it out, and that's exactly what Washington wants.
00:42:48.000 In plain English terms, what does permitting reform actually mean?
00:42:53.000 And why is it so hard to build anything, especially in places like New York and California?
00:42:57.000 I always bring it back to the example most people know, which is try to build a deck off your kitchen, right?
00:43:04.000 Or an extension to your house.
00:43:06.000 And you go to some office and you submit the architect's plans and they call you back three months later because you filled out this form wrong.
00:43:14.000 And you're like, I just want to build a shed, right?
00:43:16.000 How is it so complicated?
00:43:18.000 To imagine this now, this is frustrating for you as a person and as a homeowner, and you think this is absurd.
00:43:24.000 Imagine this for multi trillion dollar industries where you're trying to build a pipeline from West Virginia into Virginia to bring natural gas.
00:43:33.000 The Mountain Valley pipeline took nine years to permit, right?
00:43:37.000 Nine years just to get the approval, let alone the four years it will take to build it.
00:43:42.000 If you as a company are expected to think 15 years into the future, how the hell do you fill out the permits now?
00:43:49.000 By the time I got the permit, The pipeline was the wrong size because that many more people had moved to the area.
00:43:55.000 The dynamics changed.
00:43:57.000 The geography could have changed, right?
00:43:59.000 Housing developments could have built in your pipeline direction.
00:44:02.000 So that's permitting reform.
00:44:04.000 There is a role for government to make sure things are being done well.
00:44:08.000 But whether you want to build a hotel in downtown Manhattan or you want to build a pipeline across three states, if the government can't get its act together quickly, then what happens is nothing.
00:44:19.000 And nothing is bad.
00:44:21.000 Stagnation is bad.
00:44:22.000 Countries die.
00:44:24.000 When they're stagnant, look at Europe is stagnant and it is dying, right?
00:44:28.000 So, this is what permanent reform is what are the obstacles?
00:44:31.000 Who are all those fat bureaucrats who are stamping your letters saying, sorry, you didn't fill out this form now correctly?
00:44:38.000 Come back in two months and fill it out again. 0.99
00:44:41.000 All those people have to be eliminated.
00:44:44.000 Well, I mean, Daniel, you're in New York's backyard on this one, right?
00:44:46.000 Governor Hochul, some of the highest energy bills in America.
00:44:49.000 You've said there are realistic things she could do tomorrow to bring these bills down.
00:44:53.000 What are they? 0.50
00:44:54.000 Why won't you do them?
00:44:56.000 Turn back on Indian Point Nuclear Power Plant, right?
00:44:59.000 Governor Cuomo shut it down for some bizarre reason.
00:45:01.000 No one knew why.
00:45:02.000 He did it for climate change.
00:45:05.000 You could just turn the nuclear plant back on.
00:45:08.000 There was another nuclear plant, and I apologize, I can't remember the name of it just now, that was in the middle of construction, that he halted the construction of it.
00:45:17.000 Continue building it, right?
00:45:19.000 Those are very easy things.
00:45:21.000 Reopening up the coal plants is almost impossible in New York because these are vicious, vicious people, and they didn't just shut down the coal plant, they imploded them.
00:45:30.000 Right.
00:45:31.000 So it will be almost for that reason, so that you will never build a coal plant again.
00:45:36.000 It will be hard for New York to build a coal plant.
00:45:39.000 But, you know, the president signed an executive order with an emergency declaration.
00:45:43.000 And if you are a New Yorker and you are paying four times the national average for electricity, which a lot of New Yorkers are, I would say that's an emergency.
00:45:51.000 Right.
00:45:52.000 I would say that, especially considering that New York City is dying and losing to places like Miami and Dallas, whole industries, whole hedge funds are saying, I'm getting the hell out of here.
00:46:02.000 I'm not.
00:46:03.000 This is an emergency.
00:46:04.000 You have a power emergency.
00:46:06.000 There are things that I kind of wish the president would step in a little heavier handed and be like, yeah, sorry, we're doing this.
00:46:13.000 Constitution pipeline from Pennsylvania bringing natural gas.
00:46:17.000 We're building it.
00:46:17.000 I don't care what the governor says.
00:46:19.000 I am going to save the people of New York from the emergency of high energy the way I save the people of New York from the emergency of cartels and criminal illegals, right?
00:46:31.000 I don't need your permission to save the people of New York.
00:46:33.000 I'm going to do it.
00:46:35.000 So let's do it.
00:46:36.000 Yeah, listen, I have a cabin up in sort of that, on the New York side of sort of northeast Pennsylvania, up in the Catskills.
00:46:43.000 And, you know, on the Pennsylvania side nearby, they're drilling for natural gas.
00:46:48.000 They're doing all sorts of things, you know.
00:46:50.000 And it's funny, man.
00:46:51.000 You go there, you know, the trucks with Pennsylvania plates, they're newer, they're cleaner, they're not, because there's been wealth created by these things, by these industries.
00:47:01.000 Like they're actually making money and they're lowering their energy prices.
00:47:05.000 You go across this thing in New York, they can't do it.
00:47:07.000 They can't, it's literally all part of the same shale platform, right?
00:47:10.000 It's all the same thing.
00:47:11.000 But because you can't do it, You know, those towns are suffering and they're dying in many cases.
00:47:17.000 And it's such a shame to see there's no difference in the people.
00:47:19.000 They live in some cases a few hundred yards apart.
00:47:23.000 But there's such a drastic difference and no one sees it.
00:47:28.000 And that's the sadness of that part of New York and the sadness a lot of these red states that have really blue large cities that throw them off.
00:47:37.000 Because New York actually is a red state and you know that.
00:47:40.000 But when you're running for office, you campaign in Manhattan and that's it.
00:47:44.000 And if you win Manhattan and Nassau, you win the rest.
00:47:47.000 And actually, Nassau is getting pretty red.
00:47:49.000 You win the entire state.
00:47:51.000 So if you're Kathy Hochul, what do you care about the folks in Oswego, right?
00:47:54.000 Or Oneonta? 0.97
00:47:55.000 You may throw them a bone every now and then, but you don't care about them.
00:48:00.000 And there are so few people in that part of the state because it is dying that she'll just allow them to be necessary casualties because the liberals in Manhattan, who don't care if they're paying four times the national average, they're the ones who are calling the shots.
00:48:15.000 And that's what's tragic about.
00:48:16.000 That disdain that we start having for rural America. 1.00
00:48:20.000 Yeah, no, it's funny you say that because it's 100% accurate. 1.00
00:48:22.000 I mean, you basically break north of Westchester County and it's a red state. 0.60
00:48:28.000 It may not be in the population, but 85% of the land mass is probably a red state and the rest is the lunatics in New York. 0.57
00:48:35.000 But yeah, you don't have to cater to the rest if those numbers work. 0.86
00:48:38.000 It's almost like how did that state stay together when such a huge portion of it is just totally neglected for the whims and wants of people who. 0.95
00:48:48.000 Couldn't fathom what's going on because they live in a big city and they're leftist lunatics.
00:48:53.000 And that's why getting the illegal population out of the big cities is so important because in the next census in 2030, all of that appropriation will be done by population.
00:49:03.000 Sadly, we count illegals in our census. 0.58
00:49:07.000 And New York City will not be as powerful when there are 200,000 fewer illegals, which is why they're fighting tooth and nail.
00:49:16.000 You talked about the shutdown, why they are fighting tooth and nail to keep the illegals there. 0.85
00:49:20.000 Again, and they're useless pawns also. 0.95
00:49:22.000 They're They're useful. 0.99
00:49:24.000 They don't care about illegals.
00:49:25.000 They need bodies, whether it's poor American bodies who are dying of fentanyl or poor illegal bodies who are dying from their own criminal gangs.
00:49:34.000 They're just bodies for necessary numbers games for Democrats.
00:49:37.000 That's the way they see people, unfortunately.
00:49:40.000 Yeah, it's always just power.
00:49:42.000 Dan, where did all the green spending actually go over the last decade?
00:49:46.000 Who got rich?
00:49:48.000 What did the rest of us get for it?
00:49:49.000 And wasn't Al Gore just recently talking about global cooling?
00:49:53.000 I mean, I know we've talked about some of these politicians, but I guess.
00:49:57.000 I guess the new grift is the fear of global cooling after running a multi billion dollar fund, after creating the global warming problem while being a politician, then creating a fund to solve all this non existent problem.
00:50:11.000 Because I think you'd probably know better than me, but I think the average temperature increase over the last 75 years was something like 0.2, not 2 degrees, 0.2 degrees, which I would say is probably not a statistically significant number to actually show any real change, especially when you look at it over a cycle of an ice age.
00:50:31.000 Yeah.
00:50:32.000 And that number is not in a vacuum.
00:50:34.000 So when I argue with people who say, you know, since 1850, the global temperature has gone up one degree Celsius, and I'll say, okay, maybe it has.
00:50:41.000 I would love to see numbers and I can disprove that anyway, but I'll just embrace your argument for argument's sake.
00:50:48.000 But that didn't happen in a vacuum because what else happened since 1850 and the great oil boom and the fossil fuel boom, right?
00:50:55.000 We've moved the majority of people out of poverty and literacy rates have gone through the roof and child mortality rates have dropped precipitously and we're healthier and we're clean.
00:51:05.000 So much healthier now and so much more abundant that the biggest problem plaguing our poor is obesity.
00:51:10.000 I mean, and that's laughable and tragic at the same time, right?
00:51:14.000 So, when you say the one degree Celsius or four inches of increased ocean volume, I'll say, okay, but a lot of other things happened.
00:51:23.000 And I don't think anyone is going to go back to cloth diapers with explosive diarrhea children for the sake of four inches or one degree Celsius.
00:51:34.000 They're not going to go back to freezing temperatures and miserable heat and not having the convenience of Uber Eats.
00:51:34.000 They're not.
00:51:42.000 They're not.
00:51:43.000 And so, yes, I'll give you the temperature, I'll give you the ocean.
00:51:46.000 But humanity is better off and more prosperous and ultimately more dignified, right?
00:51:52.000 We don't allow our people to die undignified deaths anymore because of the great abundance of prosperity from fossil fuels.
00:52:00.000 And so, yeah, I'll take the two inches and the four degrees or four.
00:52:04.000 By the way, it's a great argument.
00:52:05.000 And I've actually never even heard it, which is sort of shocking.
00:52:07.000 So, to kind of do this, how come more people aren't making that argument?
00:52:14.000 I need more platforms like yours, Don.
00:52:17.000 This is no, because you're right.
00:52:20.000 Like, fine.
00:52:21.000 We'll give you the one degree Celsius over 175 years, but like, you know, okay, a lot of other stuff's happened that's actually allowed humanity to prosper in that amount of time.
00:52:33.000 And you can't just look at it in a vacuum.
00:52:36.000 No, you can't.
00:52:37.000 And we're better off as humanity.
00:52:39.000 And that's a great, great thing.
00:52:41.000 And all of the people who have predicted the demise of humanity, whether it's, you know, Paul Ehrlich and all the, we're going to die of any day, or whether the climate doomsday, none of it has ever come true.
00:52:53.000 We're so resilient.
00:52:55.000 And fossil fuels help us to have a more dignified, better life.
00:52:58.000 And that's why we fight for them.
00:53:00.000 And I think that's why I love this president so much, is because ultimately it is about people.
00:53:05.000 It is about humans.
00:53:06.000 It is about dignity.
00:53:07.000 It is about freedom, right?
00:53:08.000 And all these other things are ancillary rockets.
00:53:11.000 It's about money.
00:53:12.000 It's about, no, it's not.
00:53:13.000 It's about people.
00:53:15.000 And humanity is better off when we are free and prosperous.
00:53:18.000 I only care about fossil fuels because they are the best tools right now to make us free and prosperous.
00:53:25.000 If you discover something better tomorrow, I will jump on that bandwagon, but all I care about is freedom and prosperity for people, and fossil fuels are the best vehicle to deliver that right now.
00:53:37.000 Candidly, I think if the left actually believed their own arguments, they probably wouldn't buy homes on Martha's Vineyard, on islands two feet above sea level.
00:53:46.000 I mean, if it is so doom and gloom, all these rich guys, John Kerry, Al Gore, I'm sure they all have their weekend homes on the islands.
00:53:55.000 And if they were all that worried, they probably aren't going to sink tens of billions for their homes, which is what they're cost.
00:54:02.000 In a place that's going to be underwater in a couple of years.
00:54:04.000 That probably wouldn't, if they were true believers, I don't think they'd go for that.
00:54:07.000 We could always play the what about isms, what if they had, what if we had games, and we'll never get answers.
00:54:14.000 But when Bernie Sanders was taking private jets to his Stop Oligarchy climate change tours, I thought there's no better example of what a load of BS all of this is.
00:54:25.000 If we ever did something so blatantly hypocritical, we would get raked over the coals. 0.96
00:54:31.000 But if you're the left, you can have a Nazi tattoo and a sexual. 0.95
00:54:35.000 Child platform profile, and you can fly a private jet to the Stop Oligarchy tour, or you can be whiter than both of us and claim to be a Native American, and they always get a pass.
00:54:47.000 It's the old, I used to have great hair, but it's what drove it all out. 0.63
00:54:51.000 It's the ultimate frustration of this job, but it's part of it.
00:54:55.000 Yeah, let's go to China for a second because I think this is the part that most people perhaps don't see.
00:55:01.000 They're building coal, nuclear, the battery supply chains, all of it.
00:55:06.000 While we argue with leftists over the Green News scam, how far behind are we really, especially perhaps on batteries and the grid? 0.54
00:55:15.000 And how do we catch up without just handing the whole thing over to Beijing, right?
00:55:18.000 Because if we don't have energy, we can never compete in AI.
00:55:20.000 If we don't compete in AI, all these things that require a lot of compute and ultimately energy, you can't maintain the hegemony that we've had for 200 years as a nation.
00:55:32.000 No.
00:55:32.000 And what's fascinating is that we shut down our coal plants to move them overseas to China.
00:55:38.000 Who uses coal to produce the stuff that we then buy for them?
00:55:41.000 And it's just not a very sustainable, to use their word, it's not a very sustainable model.
00:55:48.000 We burn coal incredibly responsibly here in America.
00:55:51.000 There is no such thing as dirty coal in this country.
00:55:53.000 Coal is remarkably clean. 0.91
00:55:56.000 China does not, and they get away with it.
00:55:58.000 And they get away with it because they're China, because they fund most of these climate groups, quite frankly, who sue America to stop using coal.
00:56:05.000 It's a brilliant model that they have exploited. 0.93
00:56:08.000 Our nonprofit laws, our judicial system for their advantage. 0.93
00:56:12.000 I wish we took our grid as seriously as China takes theirs.
00:56:17.000 And quite frankly, all of Western Europe should wish the exact same thing. 0.97
00:56:21.000 China does not build wind and solar, they make the crap and sell it to countries stupid enough to buy it, but they make crappy wind and solar in coal plants because coal works. 0.94
00:56:32.000 Regardless of the temperature, regardless of the sun, coal always works. 0.98
00:56:36.000 And they are building coal plants quickly.
00:56:39.000 Because they want an economy that works.
00:56:41.000 So we have tremendous coal reserves and we burn it so responsibly that I wish we could have coal plants in every backyard.
00:56:50.000 It should be an afterthought.
00:56:51.000 Utilities used to be an afterthought.
00:56:54.000 No one hemmed and hawed about the electric bill.
00:56:57.000 Maybe you didn't want to pay it, but electricity in America has always been dirt cheap.
00:57:01.000 And we've been electrifying since Edison lit up the New York Times in 1889, I think it was, right?
00:57:09.000 We've been electrifying this country for a long time.
00:57:11.000 We know how to do it.
00:57:13.000 It's only the last six or seven years, starting with really the end of the Obama administration and all of Biden, that we've mucked it up so terribly.
00:57:22.000 And again, I wish we could be as serious as China is when it comes to reliable, affordable, abundant energy for the good of the economy and for industry.
00:57:33.000 Daniel, if you're advising on what an America First energy agenda should actually deliver and spotlight, what are the two or three things that basically have to happen?
00:57:43.000 And how fast could people's bills actually go down if we enacted those things?
00:57:50.000 Increase of electricity production is the most important thing.
00:57:53.000 The president stopped all of the closures of coal plants.
00:57:57.000 That was very important and obviously key.
00:58:01.000 But some of them are still slated to close.
00:58:03.000 There are coal plants in Florida that are still slated to close in 2032, 2036, et cetera.
00:58:09.000 So people are planning to phase them out because we're going to go green, et cetera.
00:58:14.000 That's a dangerous thing.
00:58:15.000 And I think since it's in the future, people aren't paying it much mind.
00:58:19.000 Rebuilding, especially natural gas plants as quickly as possible, I think is absolutely essential.
00:58:25.000 Expansion of nuclear, again, everything to bring down the cost of electricity.
00:58:29.000 Electricity is just one component, though, because the things that we use, those products, are all made from oil and gas and coal, and nothing will replace that.
00:58:38.000 You can put all the wind turbines you want or solar panels, they stink, but you can put them everywhere, but they will never make plastic.
00:58:46.000 They will never make rubber, right?
00:58:48.000 And if you want to make vehicles, if you want microchips, if you want Tylenol, right, that requires oil and gas and coal.
00:58:56.000 So the abundance of that is absolutely essential.
00:58:59.000 Data centers.
00:59:01.000 I do think we need the heavy hand of government.
00:59:03.000 Again, not a huge fan of big government, but we need a master plan.
00:59:07.000 We have to build data centers where the energy is.
00:59:10.000 And the energy is on the north slope of Alaska because there's a ton of natural gas and water.
00:59:16.000 And spend the money on building the transmission lines from the.
00:59:19.000 It's not impossible.
00:59:20.000 It's a big feat, but it is imminently doable.
00:59:23.000 We should be building data centers in the Permian Basin because gas is under a buck per cubic meter because it is so plentiful, it's cheaper to flare it.
00:59:33.000 So, why aren't we building?
00:59:35.000 Every time I have a data center argument, they're like, why are they building this in Connecticut?
00:59:39.000 Why are they?
00:59:41.000 I mean, I know why, but we shouldn't be building them where the land is convenient for builders.
00:59:45.000 We should be building them where the energy is abundant and they're not in people's way.
00:59:50.000 So, there are a lot of things we can still do to improve our energy infrastructure.
00:59:55.000 And then finally, it's going after these radical green groups, especially the ones that are foreign funded.
01:00:01.000 We have to stop allowing our enemy to beat us up.
01:00:05.000 And we do.
01:00:05.000 And we do it under the guise of free speech, or, you know, we respect these nonprofits and their 60 years of no, no, no.
01:00:15.000 They are hiding. 0.55
01:00:16.000 Our enemy hides behind them the way Hamas hides behind children when they lost missiles from a schoolyard, right? 0.89
01:00:22.000 We have to go after these Chinese and Russian and foreign funded climate groups that are punishing us in the courts. 0.86
01:00:30.000 Interesting. 0.96
01:00:31.000 Well, Daniel Turner, thank you so much.
01:00:32.000 Really appreciate it, guys.
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01:00:35.000 Really appreciate it.
01:00:36.000 I'm sure.
01:00:37.000 Probably a lot going on in the next couple months.
01:00:39.000 I'm sure we'll be talking again soon, but really appreciate it.
01:00:42.000 Thanks a lot, Daniel, and we'll talk to you in a bit.
01:00:43.000 Thank you.
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