00:04:26.300And I came back and I suddenly found that all of the people that I liked listening to from Rush Limbaugh on were conservatives.
00:04:33.140And I thought, well, that's a shock because I had left.
00:04:35.360I had been a Jewish liberal, you know, typical Jewish coastal liberal.
00:04:39.080And at the same time, or really slightly afterwards, a long, long journey of conversion came upon me.
00:04:48.520And so when I say I was Jewish, I was racially Jewish, but I had no religion.
00:04:51.700And I suddenly began to realize I was a Christian.
00:04:54.320And so at the same time, I became a loudmouth conservative because 9-11 had happened and Hollywood was making these movies showing us as the bad guys.
00:05:03.120And they were making movie after movie showing us as the bad guys.
00:05:06.080And I thought, this is a terrible thing to do.
00:05:08.780Even the movies that were opposed to Vietnam were made after Vietnam was over.
00:05:14.260And so I started to talk about that and write about that.
00:05:16.120And I even went to Afghanistan and had myself embedded with the troops so I could speak with authority.
00:05:20.200And I said, you guys are really messing this.
00:05:36.760But simultaneously, because God does take care of his poets and his fools, and I'm both, I started to do these kind of satirical videos about conservatism.
00:05:49.580And so now I have this kind of remarkable career.
00:05:53.880It's like this is now, as I enter what must be the last phase of my life, unless I'm immortal, you know, I find myself having the career of my dreams.
00:06:04.080I'm writing nonfiction about the things I understand in the culture and how Christianity speaks through them.
00:06:10.780I'm still, I have a new mystery series going on, and I'm working at The Daily Wire as a podcaster.
00:06:17.160And it's really been a remarkable journey.
00:06:20.380The only thing I'm not doing anymore is Hollywood.
00:06:22.620And to be honest with you, I never really liked the movie business anyway.
00:06:25.800I mean, it was just something I did because it seemed like the next step in my career.
00:06:30.700So that's the one thing that has been, I was literally cancelled.
00:06:35.120I mean, I was literally just blacklisted and went dark there.
00:06:38.820But other than that, things have been remarkable.
00:06:41.020And one of the things you said to me, because we met here last year, and I still remember this, we were talking about screenwriting and writing in general.
00:06:50.540And you said, every great story begins with a boy and a girl.
00:06:54.120And once I got past the transphobia and the homophobia of that statement, it really made me think, because that is so fundamentally true.
00:07:05.720And yet, I think we've become quite uncomfortable with telling a story as basic as that, or a story that is based on such a simple thing.
00:07:12.460Well, women no longer exist as characters in the movies.
00:07:16.640You cannot go to the movies and see a woman who is anything like a woman that you would actually meet unless you date wrestlers.
00:07:24.000You know, I mean, probably, I mean, when you talk about, you know, before the cameras started rolling, we were talking about all the controversial things we say and how people get angry.
00:07:33.300Maybe the thing that made people angrier than anything else I've ever said on the air was I saw a show, The Witcher, in which the woman was fighting a duel.
00:07:44.840And I said, women can't fight duels with men.
00:07:49.360I mean, if it's the Middle Ages and you're in an actual battle, not on a fencing field, those guys were like, you know, it's not like you'd be fighting me.
00:07:57.560You'd be fighting a guy, this gigantic guy, and he'd come and just wipe you off the face of the earth.
00:08:01.660If you have a character in a fantasy who's a woman, she should have some magical power because women do have that.
00:08:07.660But you can't keep putting women in who fight because that doesn't happen in real life.
00:08:12.840And when my daughter was growing up, there would be a scene and a woman would punch a guy and the guy would roll ass over a tea kettle at the door.
00:08:19.580And I would say to her, you know, if you punch a guy, the first thing that happens is your hand breaks.
00:08:23.460And the second thing that happens is he beats the living crap out of you, you know.
00:08:27.020And so don't ever think that that's a real thing.
00:08:29.460So feminism destroyed the character of the woman.
00:08:35.360And yet that's what stories are about.
00:08:36.820They're about whether a woman can be womanly enough and whether a man can be manly enough to keep life going, to keep the planet, you know, the human race continuing.
00:08:46.680And in telling that story, you are telling an essential, what's called a psychomachie, the inner battle that we all fight to bring together the pieces of ourselves.
00:08:59.000Because we all have female and male elements.
00:09:00.960And when you put those together, you are getting something like the image of God, you know, in which we are made.
00:10:40.060He wants to create life without a woman.
00:10:43.620And that is to a large degree what science fiction is about.
00:10:46.820And to a large and even larger and worse degree what science is about.
00:10:51.500It has been a long attempt to eliminate the fertility and the difference of women because men are afraid of that power.
00:11:01.880And that's what Mary Shelley, I thought, foresaw that, you know, if you think of think of a movie like The Terminator, you know, the machines take over and they and the people rebel.
00:11:13.820They go back in time to kill the hero's mother.
00:11:15.620And if you watch that first brilliant film, the woman they want to kill, she has nothing special about her except she she's a girl.
00:11:24.960That's her superpower, you know, and they know they've got to kill her because that's the machine world depends on women being taken away.
00:11:31.940And this is, you know, just right this moment, people were yelling at me on Twitter because I said we should boycott Anheuser-Busch for putting a boy pretending to be a girl on one of their beer cans.
00:11:45.020And they said, oh, this is such a small thing.
00:12:45.900You know, my friend and colleague at the Daily Wire, Candace Owens, was just saying when they did it to Budweiser Beer, suddenly Budweiser Beer took an economic hit.
00:17:19.380You can't, you can't say anything about what it is to be a human being.
00:17:23.020You know, there is, we've talked about, there are no women characters.
00:17:26.640I've always thought, what would it, what would happen if you told a story in which a woman character starts out as a powerful business woman and then says,
00:17:33.460you know what, I don't want to do this.
00:17:42.500You can't make a movie where a guy comes to town and builds a business and he's the hero of the movie, you know, because it's all about power.
00:17:50.820So if he has power, he must be the bad guy.
00:17:53.480When you get rid of the spiritual life, there's only power.
00:18:05.980In the, like, he has lectures on YouTube and this is, this is one of the things he talked about, how in the movies at a certain point, the police, the generals, the army, they all became the bad guys.
00:18:18.740The KGB, not the KGB, the army colonel, he's always the dumb one, the whatever.
00:18:23.620But I want to come back to the first of those two, Andrew, because what you're talking about is a perfect metaphor for politics more broadly.
00:18:33.000Because you have an elite that is so up its own arse, it is completely out of touch with the ordinary person.
00:18:45.780And so that's why the movie, or the screenshots from, like, the Rotten Tomatoes ratings for comedy shows, like a Dave Chappelle latest show or a movie.
00:18:56.320And now there are parodies on themselves where, like, critics 100%, you know, they like or dislike something and it's the opposite way for the ordinary person.
00:19:06.600And it seems to me like it's not just about aging out, it's about a fundamental detachment of the people in a, like, in this case in Hollywood, from the people who they're supposed to provide services or content to or whatever it is.
00:19:20.900Right. But this is how, this is how an art form dies.
00:19:24.600It is a coagulation of power in a way.
00:19:27.140You know, we're sitting a few miles from Washington.
00:19:30.140In Washington, you can go to Georgetown, named after Washington, and walk down a street that used to be called Washington Street within sight of the Washington Monument in the middle of Washington, D.C.
00:19:38.500So you get the picture that George Washington had a lot of, a big effect on this, on this country.
00:19:45.080And the thing that is Washington's signal moment is having defeated the British in this, defeated the greatest empire on earth with this ragtag band of, you know, half starvelings wandering around in the snow.
00:20:01.120You know, he's got, he's the king of a continent.
00:20:08.920And he takes, he goes to somewhere in Maryland, Annapolis, and he turns over his sword to the civilian powers because he believed that much in the idea of the sovereign people.
00:20:20.820That also, just like you said, has aged out so that at that moment, the most popular man in America was also the best man in America and probably one of the best men who ever lived.
00:20:32.560You know, he was like, but he was also the most.
00:20:34.440Now, like the people who are popular are completely detached from the power and the people who are powerful are completely detached from the people.
00:20:43.740Um, the advent of, of Donald Trump, which even at the time I said, you know, this is a tragic moment when it takes a man like Donald Trump to speak for the people because everybody, and you saw the way the power just came to shut him down.
00:20:57.560This is not about whether Trump's a nice person or a good person or anything like that.
00:21:01.060It's simply what he represented to people for, for 50 years, for 50 years, the powers that be told people in this country, you stink.
00:21:09.100Your country stinks, your religion stinks, your color, the color of your skin stinks, everything about your history.
00:21:14.420It stinks, you know, like your God doesn't exist.
00:21:17.340And then they thought, well, why did they elect Donald Trump?
00:21:20.180It's like, you know, I was, my feeling was you're lucky they didn't show up outside your house with a torch and a pick pitchfork and toss you into the Potomac.
00:21:33.000I mean, I think that as, as people, people think their way out of morality, as they think their way out of your individuality, the importance of your individuality.
00:21:46.220It's easy for me to feel my individuality and my reality, but you have to have to sort of really think about it to think, oh, you know, maybe that guy sitting across from me is just as important to himself as I am to me.
00:21:55.940And that we're both equally important to God, then you have art, then you have the Enlightenment, then, you know, once you get that idea, then you have all the kind of beautiful things that Europe produced.
00:22:07.620And once you lose that idea, you lose everything.
00:22:11.300That kind of coagulation of power, money, political ideas in an aristocracy that does not care anymore for the people, that has no noblesse oblige, is the way a country ages out as well.
00:22:25.940And you can see it, but going back to this idea of the movies, where the values that America used to embody and used to celebrate, if you think about the movies of the 80s and 90s, strength, resilience, independence, taking responsibility for yourself.
00:22:43.280You look at the movies now, they just, it's unrecognizable.
00:22:47.740You think to yourself, what message are you trying to send me?
00:22:52.500Yes, well, that's, well, that is, you know, it's an amazing thing.
00:22:55.620The people who built the movie industry, the people who made the movies I love and probably you love as well, many of them were immigrants, many of them were Jews.
00:25:48.960They taught me, you know, what you would sacrifice for.
00:25:53.020They taught me that you would sacrifice for something.
00:25:55.420During the pandemic recently, there was this moment when Donald Trump got COVID and he came back to the White House and he said, now I've had COVID.
00:26:20.460And I don't know if I was the last person in America with all those movies in my head saying, wait a minute.
00:26:26.800There are things that are more important than dying, you know?
00:26:30.840Like slavery, like being, like losing your freedom, like losing your dignity, like, you know, losing the chance to be the thing that you want to be.
00:26:39.680People have died for all those things through time.
00:26:42.200And yet here was the news media, one of them after another, saying, no, no, no, that mean, awful Donald Trump, you know, you must be afraid.
00:26:51.500And then they sit around going, why would anybody vote for Donald Trump?
00:26:54.500You know, these are the things we learned from the movies.
00:26:57.720And we learned them before that from, you know, British novels, I think, more than anything else.
00:27:02.180And these are the things that are gone, in my opinion, from a world without God, because why would you risk your life if there's nothing beyond yourself?
00:27:14.280You know, why would you risk your life for anything if there's nothing beyond yourself?
00:27:16.960If something doesn't have a quality of the eternal to it, like freedom, like, you know, justice, why would you die for them if everything is just material, you know, you're here, you're gone, meanness?
00:27:30.620And that's the reason I'm such a huge Arthur Miller fan, the playwright Arthur Miller.
00:27:34.540And it's why, for me, the play The Crucible resonates harder than ever, especially now when you have Proctor and he gives John Proctor at the end when he's about to die and he refuses to give up anybody else.
00:28:36.740You know, it's always basically they're going to take care of you.
00:28:39.660Let me ask you a question I don't like asking because I don't like hearing the answer.
00:28:43.500But if Hollywood is aged out and comedy is aged out and if we're seeing the same thing in Western political systems, is the West coming to an end?
00:29:47.400Always gender confusion in moments like this.
00:29:49.720There's the threat of war because there's no common ground.
00:29:54.900Right now in America, we have no common ground.
00:29:56.860There's no common ground between left and right.
00:29:59.200There's plenty of common ground among the people.
00:30:00.820Like I would say about 70% of the people probably agree on 70% of the ideas.
00:30:05.380But among the loudest people, there's no common ground.
00:30:10.060And that could lead to actual shooting war.
00:30:15.520However, I think that the foundation on which America stands and the alliance that it has built with both what was once great Europe
00:30:28.040and some of Israel in the Middle East and Eastern Europe, I think there's a lot of energy still in there, political energy and military energy and possibly financial energy.
00:30:41.100And if I had to predict something, what I would say, I'm much more afraid of losing the American Republic than I am of losing America.
00:30:51.340So remember, after the Roman Republic fell, the Roman Empire still lasted another 400 years.
00:30:57.460It lasted as long as it had already lasted.
00:31:00.440So I'm fearful for our republic because it's not working.
00:31:05.800It has ceased to work the way it's supposed to operate.
00:31:08.020But I still feel, you know, China, I don't think so.
00:31:13.600People keep telling me, oh, China's the future.
00:31:25.580You know, I think that the West still has something in it and that what we're really seeing now, I mean, one of the things that happened in Rome, like if you were in Rome, you were thinking, where are all the Romans?
00:31:40.080But actually, that's the sign of an idea spreading.
00:31:44.160All these people who are shouting at us that they're not being treated fairly are shouting British ideas at us.
00:31:48.960You know, it's like you don't go you don't go to like Africa and say, you know, we want to be equal because that doesn't mean anything in Africa.
00:31:56.880You know, it only means something here because we're all British.
00:33:16.780You know, it's a really good observation.
00:33:19.160When I when I was coming up, I was, you know, I fell in with some really talented writers, some of whom went on to have really great careers.
00:33:28.140And the discussions that we would have were fantastic, you know, talking about what is happening to storytelling, where we wanted to take storytelling, what storytelling meant to us.
00:33:37.400Within years, we had all done fairly well.
00:33:39.960And we were talking about who's your agent?
00:33:47.080And one of the things that was kind of lovely about becoming a writing, thinking conservative was suddenly I saw that again when we were building the Daily Wire.
00:34:37.640You know, I mean, I being proved wrong doesn't mean anything to me because it means I've now learned something new.
00:34:43.460You know, I've actually broken through a wall, a cage that I was in.
00:34:47.260But this it's it's a remarkable thing because one of the drawbacks to this Internet culture is that if you're wrong, people are like you were wrong.
00:34:58.000You know, that happens to me sometimes.
00:35:00.240It may happen again before I'm done, you know.
00:35:02.520But but to me, that's that is that's the glory of of doing what we do, that you can that you can grow and you can change and that the books that you write at 50 are not the books you write at 30 and the books that you write at 70 shouldn't be the books you write at 52.
00:35:17.920You know, you should get deeper and richer.
00:35:23.360We are in a culture that has shut that.
00:35:25.240First, we were in a culture, I just saw it as people got rich, they started to stop doing it.
00:35:30.760That may just be part of nature, you know.
00:35:33.740But also, we're in a culture that doesn't allow you to do that.
00:35:37.040Like, you know, there's a there's a problem in this country where I think 50 percent of the murders in this country are committed by black people.
00:35:44.580Now, to me, that's a really big question.
00:35:50.140My theory is it has to do with the programs that the left instituted during the 60s, 70s and 80s that made them a dependent class, turned blacks into a dependent class.
00:35:59.640But Charles Murray is a terrific thinker and he believes it's genetics.
00:36:03.400And of course, then the left has their theory that it's all racism and they're, you know, it's we we did this to them.
00:36:12.460You know, for saying what I even for saying what I just said, I'm a racist.
00:36:16.700Oh, I flinched, even though I know the statistics and I've listened to Larry Elder and Thomas all talk about it and I've looked at the arguments.
00:37:01.620You can't even write a story if you don't have an open mind, because your story has to mean things that you didn't mean it to me.
00:37:06.840For a story to come to life, you have to let it set it free.
00:37:09.560You know, you can't just say, oh, this this has to happen to that character because I'm a you know, I'm a capitalist and I don't want the communists to win.
00:38:07.900It's insane to have to kowtow to, you know, a bunch of basically adolescents who've been taught something in college and don't know enough to disagree.
00:38:18.080You know, I mean, that's it's very stultifying.
00:38:21.360And it's also, as you say, it's it's it's it's dull.
00:38:25.340You know, I want to be with people who disagree and are fearlessly disagree and and don't call each other names, you know, when when they say something.
00:38:33.760And Andrew, forgive me for saying this, but what you're describing to me are old school liberal values.
00:38:43.060I'm 40 years old when I was a young guy watching comedy and being inspired by it.
00:38:48.880The people who were really pushing back against the dogma of their day were people like George Carlin and Bill Hicks, whose targets were religious conservatives.
00:38:58.100So if you talk about stultifying, they were the ones, you know, Bill Hicks, last letterman appearance was wasn't broadcast for, I think, over a decade because he made fun of religion.
00:39:08.020So when I came into adulthood, it was conservatives, at least that was kind of the way it was presented, who were the people who were refusing to have the conversation.
00:39:44.340Because the left does the six degrees of white supremacy thing where if you talk to this guy and he sat next to that guy whose dog, blah, blah, blah, then you can't, you know, you can't talk to them anymore.
00:39:54.900How how how how are the three of us sitting here?
00:39:57.280Well, because when I said to you that, you know, Francis, that you're a conservative, I said this to Mary Harrington, who also tells me she's on the left.
00:40:07.140There is no, you know, in the in the 50s, I think it was a famous literary critic named Lionel Trilling said there is no such thing as an intellectual conservative.
00:42:21.900So, you know, the idea of the left has played itself out.
00:42:24.640And as I keep telling my friends on the right, if we come back and win, the power will become corrupt because power corrupts.
00:42:32.300I mean, that was the whole point of the country.
00:42:34.580The whole point of this country was to create a sort of Rube Goldberg machine that every time somebody came too powerful, somebody else knocked them down.
00:42:42.900You know, oh, you know, you've got the states.
00:43:46.520You know, Tucker Carlson, you know, has, I don't always agree with Tucker Carlson, but he's like, he's like, you mentioned his name and it's like you mentioned Satan.
00:44:06.040You know, and we have forgotten, if you go back and read the Federalist Papers where they're arguing for the Constitution against the people who didn't want, who thought the federal government was going to get too strong, they only turned out to be right several hundred years later.
00:44:24.780All those papers, you know, this is Madison and, you know, all these guys, and all they talk about is how do we keep people from getting too much power?
00:44:31.760And we have forgotten that that's even a problem.
00:44:35.420So when you say, when you say, for instance, you know, we've got all these shootings in this country, these mass shootings, we should get rid of people's guns.
00:44:45.180Nobody, even on the right, people don't think to say, well, isn't that giving the federal government a monopoly on violence?
00:44:51.240And isn't that giving them too much power?
00:44:53.280You know, the answer is always no, guns save lives, guns, you know, protect us.
00:48:23.700That's not what Reagan believed, but that's what the Reaganites believed.
00:48:27.180And so we had this market, market, market.
00:48:28.520They would talk about Ayn Rand, who to my mind is just a sociopath, you know.
00:48:32.460I mean, just not to mention a terrible, terrible writer.
00:48:36.780But that's kind of empty, too, you know.
00:48:39.960Like this whole notion that some system is going to take care of us just doesn't work.
00:48:47.620I think we definitely need, there's a lot of things we need, and I hesitate to say to Englishmen that one of them is a rebirth of religion.
00:49:16.740Yes, well, that is also this question.
00:49:20.920Well, it does go back to materialism because if you're afraid to die, if everything comes down to I must save my life at all costs, how can you be a rebel?
00:49:48.640I used to go to work at 3 in the morning, and I would run from my apartment to stand in front of a marketplace where there were prostitutes because I figured if there were prostitutes, the mob wouldn't let there be violence.
00:50:00.700And I was the only guy who, in my newsroom, who didn't get mugged because that's what I would do every morning.
00:50:25.120So something, you know, maybe it's wealth, maybe it's too much wealth, maybe it's too much safety.
00:50:31.040You know, this is a wealthy, safe country in a lot of ways, but also this kind of idea that death is the end.
00:50:38.420You know, this, this, this flesh is all you've got, and you've got to take care of it, you know, because now we can be so healthy for so long.
00:50:45.560We mustn't sacrifice all those wonderful years that we've got.
00:55:53.520You know, they just subverted it by saying things, you know, that you should have gotten arrested for, but you didn't because they didn't say it in a rebellious way.
00:56:02.400And I think that that's what artists have to be.
00:56:04.520And I think, you know, when you were talking about the fact that we're having a kind of conversation that people don't have, that's what it is.
00:57:03.940I said from the very beginning, I think that the two, I have to say that I think the two people who got Trump exactly right were me and Victor Davis Hanson.
00:57:10.520And I think I said it first, but Victor wrote a great book about it, so he wins.
00:57:15.220But like, but still, it was that he was a tragic figure from the start.
00:57:19.280And he was a tragic figure because the very things that made him great also made him wrong.
00:57:36.600I said he was going to, I knew he was going to about two years in because we had reached a point where it took a loud mouth without many of the traits that we think of as common decency to say the simplest truth.
00:57:55.980You know, I mean, that was the thing that was beautiful about Donald Trump.
00:57:58.900He would say things that could easily be interpreted as racist.
00:58:03.700I don't think he, I don't think he was a racist at all, but he would say things that could easily be interpreted as racist because he didn't care if they called him racist.
00:58:12.460He fired men who deserve, you couldn't disagree with them, you can say they're doing a bad job, but he fired men who were deserving of respect in public.
00:58:19.740Or he, you know, it was like he pulled the rug out from under them.
00:58:29.580The minute I saw the people react to it, I didn't understand it at first, but the minute I saw the people react to it, I thought, oh, he's speaking for them.
00:59:15.040The guts they sometimes show now, which they never did before, the unwillingness to simply drift to the left, which they've been doing for decades.
00:59:26.920The big idea, which somebody told me years ago was the idea that Republicans need to understand, is you're not running against the Democrats, you're running against the press.
00:59:35.640But the press, the media, the news media in this country is the enemy of the people, just like Trump said it was.
00:59:41.360He was, if there was one thing he was 100% right about, it was the news media.
00:59:45.940Watching, I just the other day played a montage of him taking the press apart.
00:59:57.020I have, I have many, many good things to say about him.
00:59:59.880People who say, oh, you're never Trump or just lying.
01:00:02.220I was the first guy at the Daily Wire to come in and say, I'm voting for Trump.
01:00:05.860And Shapiro yelled at me for like hours, you know, which is like, if you've ever heard the way Shapiro talks, it's like that scene where, in The Godfather, where Sonny gets machine gunned.
01:00:13.180And I voted for him twice, and I'd vote for him again if I have to.
01:00:17.740But I think if he had, if he had an ounce of grace, he would say, I christen DeSantis the new me and let him go.
01:00:28.180If nothing else, I'm so tired of 80-year-old men running our government, you know, 70 and 80-year-old men.
01:00:34.200It is time for this new generation to come along.
01:00:38.560I mean, he took that state and he took, he took a purple state and he turned it into a red state by sheer competence, you know, by getting it right.
01:00:46.260But Trump didn't really accomplish that much in terms of long term because he wasn't, you know, people always say, well, he's not a politician.
01:00:54.140Being a politician is a profession, you know, so he couldn't get any laws passed.
01:01:21.860And if the Republicans can learn what he taught them, they will become a great party.
01:01:26.860And the final thing I want to ask you before we do our usual last question is, you know, I've talked about how what we need is a post woke world because wokeness is crazy.
01:03:15.040You know, it exists in the mind of God.
01:03:17.760And so I don't think we have to go back to the Middle Ages.
01:03:21.360I don't think we can go back to the Middle Ages, and we shouldn't if we could.
01:03:25.060But I think we need to talk about what it means.
01:03:27.700If, no, this is not a multiverse where we just happen to live in the universe that looks very much like it was created by a gigantic invisible Jew, you know.
01:04:02.180You know, I heard, I was Mary Harrington, I was reading Mary's book, and she was talking about a man, a young man who went into puberty and said,
01:04:09.880I'm being poisoned by these chemicals.
01:04:11.560These chemicals are turning me into something I don't want to be.
01:04:14.020And I thought, well, that's a rational statement if there's no God.
01:04:16.720You know, you don't want to be this, and these chemicals are, in fact, turning you into something.
01:04:21.360But if that something that you are refers to something above yourself, which that's what I believe.
01:05:29.960So that is the beginning of the anti-woke thing that, you know, C.S. Lewis, great Christian apologist, said you can't really, he was talking about a poem.
01:06:15.700If I, if I wanted to be a billionaire, I certainly wouldn't have gone into the writing profession, you know.
01:06:20.280There's something that we're here for.
01:06:22.020And I do think it involves love and relationship and love of something beyond ourselves that this world only expresses.
01:06:30.100And when you begin with that, you get very quickly to ideas like freedom, to ideas like relationship, marriage, respect, you know.
01:06:41.680Again, we don't have to go back to the Middle Ages to realize that those are things that matter to us and that you can build a society on.
01:06:48.640You can't build a society on like, oh, you know, you're a black guy, so you committed a crime, but you're not a criminal because black people were oppressed.
01:06:55.580That's like, you know, then you get what we have in Chicago now, which is being torn to pieces as we sit here talking, the poor people pouring into the streets, tearing it to pieces.
01:08:00.800And of course, we're not going to let you go without some questions for our paid supporters or locals that only they will get to see.
01:08:05.800But before that, the last question we always ask, and you may have done this already, but what is the one thing we're not talking about as a society that we really should be?
01:08:38.860And so that's the thing we're not talking about because we've got this idea that you can't make an argument from God because not everybody accepts that premise.
01:08:49.360But when you make the argument that there's no God, that's a premise I don't accept.
01:08:53.780So I think that we should be fearless in saying, in asking the questions of the left, you know.
01:09:00.140I think that was what was so great about Matt Walsh's documentary, What is a Woman?
01:09:24.160You know, you tell me because I'll build that society.
01:09:29.640And I think once you do that, you get very quickly to something that looks kind of like the Constitution, you know, power being kept at bay so the individual can thrive.