TRIGGERnometry - June 12, 2026


Belfast Riots & Migrant Stabbing Live Reaction with Peter Bleksley and Patrick Christys


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00:00:30.000 hello everybody and welcome to this very special episode of trigonometry we are going to be talking
00:00:37.160 live about not just a terrible event in belfast a few days ago but i think it's fair to say the
00:00:42.420 series of terrible events occurring there over the last few days we are joined uh i'm delighted
00:00:47.860 to say by two of our former guests who both need very little introduction former scotland yard uh
00:00:53.840 detective peter blexley and of course a gb news uh tv presenter patrick christus welcome to you
00:00:59.580 both thank you thank you thank you so much for joining us first of all peter for people who are
00:01:04.680 catching up on the story and the different points in it as i alluded to in the introduction can you
00:01:10.980 tell us what happened and what has been happening in belfast over the last few days certainly on
00:01:17.680 monday night a vicious assault took place in belfast the capital city of northern ireland
00:01:23.620 but somebody has been charged with that assault so i am therefore forbidden by law from saying
00:01:29.500 very much more about it other than to say the alleged victim is a local man from belfast and
00:01:36.140 the alleged perpetrator who has been charged we know is a man of sudanese origin who entered
00:01:43.420 ireland by flying in from paris he then traveled from dublin up into northern ireland which is of
00:01:51.200 course part of the uk where he apparently made an application for asylum which was fast tracked
00:01:58.760 and granted to him and the news is broken today that the man who has been charged apparently
00:02:05.260 used to be a police officer in war-torn sudan wow and uh one second sir francis and uh can you tell
00:02:14.560 us more about also the disorder that we have seen in response to this uh event yes as a result of
00:02:22.540 that and as news filtered out before this man had been charged there was a lot of footage of the
00:02:29.560 crime circulating on social media and it was vile to watch and feelings were clearly running very
00:02:37.340 high people took to the streets and it ended up with three consecutive nights of rioting people
00:02:44.220 burning buses cars properties dreadful scenes unacceptable and unforgivable but many common
00:02:52.520 commentators from Belfast saying that there was a racist element to some of what was going on that
00:02:59.660 apparently people with black and brown faces were being chased out of homes and such like I'm yet to
00:03:05.660 see anything that actually confirms that but that's been circulating widely and of course nobody likes
00:03:11.480 to see Britain burn whatever part of Britain it is but unfortunately I fear if things keep carrying 0.92
00:03:18.220 on the way that they are in relation to unfettered uncontrolled migration and all of the other
00:03:25.180 matters around that then i've got a heartfelt fear that other parts of britain are going to burn this
00:03:31.500 summer as well and patrick this response that we saw was incredibly angry and we've seen protests
00:03:43.500 happening in ireland as well obviously it's happened in northern ireland we saw protests
00:03:48.060 happening in the republic of ireland why isn't immigration such a hot button issue in northern
00:03:54.060 ireland and the republic itself well there's loads of different reasons i mean firstly there
00:03:58.300 seems to be a burning injustice that we have the highest tax burden since world war ii and then you
00:04:03.420 have to look at where some of that money is going you know a lot of people who go out and work every
00:04:07.180 day and work hard and abide by the law can't afford basic things in society it's prohibitively
00:04:12.060 expensive for them to get on the property ladder they can't afford rent they go to the shops and
00:04:15.860 they think goodness gracious me this shop is costing me a lot more than it used to uh all of
00:04:20.580 this stuff you know it feels like you know being clamped down oh gosh you know i can't afford to
00:04:24.280 have another child all of that kind of stuff and then you see a lot of people coming over and being
00:04:27.780 given absolutely everything for free now when it comes to this specific case in northern ireland
00:04:32.820 what's been happening in northern ireland is they actually closed a lot of migrant hotels and then
00:04:38.120 they seeded them out into various different mostly working class communities in council
00:04:43.120 estates etc and gave them HMOs or their own flats and that is actually something that this Labour
00:04:49.180 government is currently doing now here in England where I'm broadcasting from at the minute
00:04:53.140 and it's a recipe for disaster because there's no security at these places and they're free to roam
00:04:58.800 the local community and Peter was right about basically everything he said I mean I absolutely
00:05:03.060 love Peter I've been having him on my show all the time that there is some really interesting
00:05:07.000 details though about this guy which is that initially it was reported by the police that
00:05:11.720 he was somali then they reported that he was sudanese then they reported last night that
00:05:16.240 actually he was born and raised in saudi arabia and moved to sudan it was initially reported that
00:05:21.080 he got a flight directly from khartoum to paris and then paris to dublin and got a bus across
00:05:26.440 now it's been reported that actually what happened was that he traveled across land
00:05:30.760 in africa to libya and got a boat across the mediterranean somehow made it to paris
00:05:35.720 and then flew in from Paris.
00:05:37.460 By the way, he's been joined by his two brothers.
00:05:39.640 Now, look, the point there is we don't have a flipping clue
00:05:42.660 who these people are, do we?
00:05:44.120 We don't really know where they're from.
00:05:45.740 We don't really know what their past is.
00:05:48.020 We don't really know if they are who they say they are.
00:05:49.960 And this case perfectly exemplifies that.
00:05:52.260 And the reason why we've got the anger, I think,
00:05:55.180 is that time and time again, people have voted against this stuff.
00:05:58.660 Time and time again, people have said,
00:05:59.800 look, we feel so, so unsafe.
00:06:03.560 and politicians are just ignoring it and the political reaction in the immediate wake of this
00:06:09.240 with the first minister of northern ireland michelle o'neill was asked a question by one of
00:06:13.160 our reporters about well you know basically why do you keep letting this stuff happen and she said
00:06:17.720 today's not about that today is about what an inclusive and welcoming society we are as they
00:06:23.580 were literally cleaning this poor bloke's blood off the pavement outside not really and then she
00:06:28.320 caught herself and went it's also about the victim it's also about the victim and it just
00:06:31.720 a lot about the psychology of the people in positions of power um and it is a is a a real
00:06:37.880 shock the other anger sorry to prattle on here but it's important this the other anger is they're not
00:06:42.120 doing anything about it so uh less than 24 hours after it emerged that this guy had taken this
00:06:47.880 route from from dublin by bus into northern ireland i was able to find tiktok accounts
00:06:53.080 advertising that route still running guaranteeing people's success a journalist from the daily
00:06:57.560 telegraph got on one of these buses from dublin to northern ireland and wrote about it in this
00:07:02.680 morning's telegraph and there were illegal immigrants on his bus and they weren't checked
00:07:06.600 when they went across the border and apparently the illegal immigrant got off and asked the
00:07:10.560 journalist how do i get to the asylum processing center and he would have thought 48 hours after 0.96
00:07:15.580 a bloke bless him as you know nearly lost his face in his head in the street because of this stuff
00:07:20.220 you would have thought that the authorities would actually make a stand and clamp down on this but
00:07:24.540 they're not because they don't care. So people get very angry about it. And how much of this is
00:07:31.380 the authorities ignoring it? And how much of this is about the border, Patrick? Because there is
00:07:37.360 effectively an open border from the Republic of Ireland to Northern Ireland. So all these illegal 0.99
00:07:43.300 immigrants, they can just stream freely. They can land in the Republic and make their way north, 1.00
00:07:47.440 yeah so there's currently around 33 000 asylum seekers granted asylum in the republic of ireland
00:07:55.920 who are living in accommodation taxpayer funded accommodation and they're now what the republic
00:08:02.380 of ireland has started doing is that they have rejected roughly 81 of asylum claims in the last
00:08:08.400 year but they don't deport them so what that means is that anyone who gets rejected by the republic
00:08:13.100 of ireland knows that they can just get on a bus and go from anywhere in the republic of ireland
00:08:18.380 across the border into the into northern ireland and what we have done is uh this is what we've
00:08:23.900 been going on for years we have deported one person from which begs the question what the
00:08:29.660 heck did that guy do to be fair but it must have been like the worst the worst bloke ever i mean
00:08:36.380 either that or very unlucky you know but this is it this is it it is guaranteed so these these
00:08:46.460 human traffickers if you even want to call them that they're more like travel agents it's a travel
00:08:49.820 agency they are they are absolutely correct when they tell these people we can get you 100 access
00:08:57.820 into the united kingdom there's fun about it peter and i want to ask you with your policing 1.00
00:09:03.740 expertise and background obviously do you think part of the reason that politicians say the stupid 0.93
00:09:09.420 things that patrick just outlined whenever anything like this happens is the reality is 0.98
00:09:14.780 that if you have the sort of open border that he's talking about people like you who put on
00:09:20.620 the uniform and try and go and stop crime from happening you just can't deal with it because
00:09:25.660 it's it's add adds a massive workload and if you don't know who people are and you can't control
00:09:31.900 for certain qualities to make sure you reduce the probability of them committing these sorts of
00:09:35.980 attacks well then the police are simply going to be picking up the pieces time and again
00:09:40.300 well i'll tackle the politicians first let's look at who's in charge who runs the uk at the moment 1.00
00:09:47.340 left-leaning um socialist call themselves progressive woke liberal idiots who are in charge 1.00
00:09:55.660 and they won't do anything because it sticks in the back of their mouths to really grip the whole 1.00
00:10:01.180 immigration issue can you see any of those in charge at the moment rounding people up in their
00:10:07.820 thousands who don't deserve to be in the uk and ship shipping them out on boats trucks airplanes
00:10:15.100 whatever means necessary no you will not see it but that is what the british people actually want
00:10:22.540 and in fairness to the british people it's what they need in order to try and make this place a 1.00
00:10:28.700 bit safer because so many illegal migrants coming into this country are committing vicious vile 0.96
00:10:36.620 disgusting crimes rest in peace rihanna white and bless all the other victims that have been created 1.00
00:10:43.900 by this utter utter lunacy now we go on to policing well senior police chiefs in the uk these days 0.74
00:10:53.180 are as woke and as fluffy and as left-leaning and as liberal and progressive as the rancid
00:10:59.180 politicians are we've seen all this because it's come to light very recently particularly with the
00:11:05.260 tragic henry novak murder when it's all been laid bare race action plans inequality of outcomes
00:11:14.540 these are the brainwashing that's being carried out on british police officers so that policing
00:11:20.540 it's not done fairly it's not done without fear or favor it's done in favor of particular 0.82
00:11:28.780 minority groups so consequently police officers are scared to police people who have got black
00:11:36.380 and brown faces because to be tarnished or have a completely false accusation of racism made against 0.52
00:11:43.580 would be career ending if not very very damaging to a police career in 2026 that's the dreadful
00:11:52.140 state we're in and patrick i want to ask you to piggyback a little bit of what peter is talking
00:11:58.080 about there because he says you know our politicians who run the country now these left-wing progressive
00:12:02.980 woke etc but this guy came in during a conservative government and in fact a huge amount of illegal
00:12:10.420 immigration happened during the previous conservative government. So isn't it even
00:12:16.160 worse than what he's saying there? Well, yeah, exactly. I mean, the conservatives have got a huge
00:12:22.260 amount to account for here. Obviously, if Sajid Javid had turned the first boat back in the
00:12:27.480 channel when he was home secretary, I really don't think we'd be in this position. But he didn't do
00:12:31.580 that, obviously. And the government also went to court to get an injunction out to stop any of us
00:12:37.000 here reporting on the importation of Afghan asylum seekers fleeing the Taliban a while ago.
00:12:44.000 Several thousand of those arrived and we were supposedly not allowed to report on that.
00:12:48.800 The only reason that that ever really came to light is because shock horror.
00:12:51.320 Some of them went on to commit heinous crimes and it turned out that we might have imported 0.63
00:12:54.640 relatives of the Taliban, which no one could have seen coming, could they? 0.85
00:12:58.340 And also it came to light genuinely in one part of the world.
00:13:02.540 I think it might have been around the Basingstoke area, but don't quote me on that, where the 0.97
00:13:05.980 locals started to go why are there so many afghans and then it was like and then it just emerged oh
00:13:11.340 well that's because we've secretly imported those of them so that was under the tories this guy was
00:13:15.420 fast-tracked i mean apparently apparently he left khartoum in sudan like two months before the
00:13:21.240 fighting so i mean again the question mark there isn't it is he even an asylum seeker but he got
00:13:25.620 fast-tracked we saw underneath uh the conservative rule as well that people who were working in the
00:13:30.940 home office when they were dealing with asylum applications were told just to prove everybody
00:13:36.560 from certain countries like Afghanistan or like Eritrea, even if in the case of one bloke,
00:13:41.800 he'd been arrested several times for exposing himself in a children's playground. That guy got
00:13:46.320 waved through. So the conservatives have a huge amount to answer for here. There can be no doubt
00:13:51.700 about that. Specifically about Ireland, though, there is an interesting thing about the Rwanda 0.52
00:13:57.180 plan because you can go online and you can see this people started to make little documentaries
00:14:01.260 about it the illegal migrants that had made their way to northern ireland had started going back to
00:14:06.060 the republic of ireland when they thought they were going to be deported to rwanda and then tent
00:14:09.900 cities started popping up around dublin and a few other places in ireland and they did interviews
00:14:14.620 with them and they said why why are you here and they said we don't want to go to rwanda well now
00:14:19.260 the rwanda scheme has been scrapped and look i don't think the rwanda scheme is a silver bullet
00:14:22.540 don't get me wrong but clearly it was having some form of impact there that's gone so now it is a
00:14:27.820 complete free-for-all so yeah look i mean the conservatives are as far as i can say they didn't
00:14:31.840 conserve anything did they and they've got they are they are to blame for a huge amount of the
00:14:36.320 situation we find ourselves in but but to peter's point about about this labor government you know
00:14:40.060 there's a lie from keir starmer smash the gangs we're not smashing the gangs you can find them
00:14:43.840 on tiktok mate i mean the response to this attempted beheading in the street was to try to
00:14:47.600 limit all of our access to social media so that we can't see these clips. There's been no attempt
00:14:52.600 that I can see to limit the use of social media by human traffickers to bring illegal migrants
00:14:57.440 into the UK. So, you know, there's the lies about smashing the gangs. There's all of that stuff.
00:15:03.160 And Keir Starmer is a lifelong human rights lawyer who signed an anti-deportation letter
00:15:08.260 to block a load of Jamaican criminals being sent back to Jamaica. He did it with a load of other
00:15:12.700 Labour MPs. One of those blokes went on to kill a man with a machete in the street.
00:15:17.100 And Keir Starmer's never apologised for that.
00:15:18.920 We know what his politics are.
00:15:20.900 He is not going to suddenly start announcing mass deportations.
00:15:24.580 He's not going to suddenly start clamping down on what's going on at the borders.
00:15:28.900 And I mean, last night, arguably the most famous migrant hotel in Britain,
00:15:32.560 the Bell Hotel, the one in Epic, they were taken out of there, 1.00
00:15:36.760 which is like, OK, a cause for celebration in a way for the locals who get their hotel back.
00:15:42.400 But those people aren't being deported.
00:15:43.840 they're just going to be moved to houses of multiple occupancy so they're just going to be
00:15:47.840 moved like next door and and there's going to be no security and this this is where the government's
00:15:54.340 at they think that all we want is to have our hotels back well it would be nice to have the
00:15:58.020 holiday inn back in maidenhead or somewhere but really what we want is those people gone because
00:16:02.920 they shouldn't be here we don't want them moved in next to my grandma and patrick when you look
00:16:09.460 at that because we had you on trigonometry and it was a brilliant episode and it went incredibly
00:16:16.060 well and but when I was listening to what you were saying I just got really I actually felt
00:16:22.580 really sad because at the core of what you're talking about it's a government that doesn't
00:16:28.460 prioritize its own citizens and prioritizes these people and that is just deeply morally wrong isn't
00:16:37.220 it yeah it is and actually there is again to go back to the bell hotel when the local council
00:16:42.880 there took the government to court over the asylum seeker hotel situation they wanted to close it
00:16:48.300 the government literally argued in court that the rights of asylum seekers outweigh the rights of
00:16:53.920 locals so we know that that's that's what happens that they won that court case as well they won
00:16:59.000 that court case so they argued and won based in part on the idea that the rights of asylum seekers
00:17:04.200 outweigh the rights of local people uh in in this country of of british nationals um and when you
00:17:10.920 look around at what's happening now we've got youth unemployment of something like 16.2 percent
00:17:16.120 we've got unemployment more broadly about five percent i think it's probably higher than that in 0.82
00:17:20.680 reality what's rachel reeves decided to do she's decided to incentivize firms to hire foreign 0.99
00:17:26.200 workers by giving them five thousand pounds in cash for each foreign worker that they hire we've
00:17:30.520 had non-EU migrants, 27 non-EU migrants offered jobs in the UK for every one resident Brit.
00:17:38.520 And there's all of this stuff that goes on. It's not just the prioritisation of illegal migrants
00:17:44.200 and the preferential treatment that they get. It's the legal side of it as well. And it just
00:17:50.760 seems to absolutely beg a belief what's going on here. And at the same time, it's the demonisation
00:17:57.640 of people who actually are patriotic.
00:17:59.960 But you look at what's going on at the minute.
00:18:01.140 You know, yesterday, Keir Starmer lost his defence secretary
00:18:03.160 and lost his armed forces minister because he said,
00:18:05.800 we are defenceless and you are not doing anything
00:18:10.840 to keep the British public or members of the armed forces safe.
00:18:14.740 So what's Keir Starmer doing?
00:18:16.160 He's pressing ahead with prosecuting members of our armed forces
00:18:19.160 for things that they probably didn't do in Northern Ireland years ago.
00:18:24.760 He's ignoring all of those people.
00:18:26.860 And if it does all kick off, who is he going to rely on to fight?
00:18:31.520 It's going to be those working class lads from places like Carlisle, from places like Runcorn, from places like, you know, Dagenham or whatever.
00:18:39.480 Those same blokes who've been hanging Union Jacks or St. George's crosses up from their windows, the same people that he's been calling a racist.
00:18:46.440 He's going to be relying on those lads to actually fight for our country.
00:18:49.240 And, you know, then maybe he's going to get a bit of a wake-up call and think, actually, these are the people that we should be prioritising, not someone who has literally just come over here from Sudan or Eritrea. 0.63
00:18:59.960 I mean, we've got local councils doing free DJ classes for illegal migrants in places like Croydon, free gym memberships. 0.95
00:19:07.620 You can go to the football in Brighton for free if you're an illegal migrant. 0.98
00:19:10.720 I can't do any of that stuff for free. 0.88
00:19:12.820 It's just mad.
00:19:13.580 um peter we can't keep going down this path because resentment and anger are going to build
00:19:21.140 we're in the summer months traditionally that's when riots happen it could be the case that the
00:19:27.720 police start to lose control don't they i was in liverpool on tuesday night um because of work
00:19:34.940 and i heard a lot of police sirens so i followed the cars and they stopped about 100 meters from
00:19:41.120 hotel where i was staying what had happened was a crowd had gathered of people about 200 people
00:19:47.280 some were union jack flags uh only a couple with face coverings they gathered outside a migrant
00:19:54.000 hotel the regency in hatton garden in liverpool not the hatton garden in london um and there was
00:20:00.640 a lot of anger resentment at the occupants of this migrant hotel that had taken over the hotel
00:20:08.720 that one fella came up to me he said peter i got married in that hotel five years ago
00:20:13.600 and it was beautiful he said take a look at it now um the police found many many officers to
00:20:19.680 mobilize to blockade to the front of the hotel and they were there for some considerable time
00:20:24.960 before the crowd dispersed but speaking of people there i was hearing horror stories about other
00:20:31.680 parts of liverpool in particular an area called kensington in liverpool once again not to be
00:20:37.680 confused with a kensington in london stories of hmos huge numbers of migrants some of the criminal
00:20:44.960 offenses that i was told about are so disgusting that i'm not even going to repeat them here
00:20:51.200 but when i said did the victims report these crimes to the police they were saying no because
00:20:59.840 if we've reported to the police my dad might find out and i'm too scared what my dad will do
00:21:06.800 by way of retribution and i don't want my dad to go to prison now of course i can't i can't condone
00:21:14.880 that any possible retribution at all but that's how people are thinking so their area is changed
00:21:21.120 beyond recognition and not for the better crimes are being committed and they're fearful of
00:21:26.560 reporting it to the police because of exactly what will happen and people are at the end of their
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00:22:27.360 and at the same time peter the thing that i think is undoubtedly going to make all of this worse
00:22:33.120 is what patrick talked about earlier which is the response from the authorities and the response
00:22:38.400 particularly from the politicians who whose solution to people talking about the problem
00:22:44.480 and increasingly regrets regrettably taking actions to their hands of course no one here
00:22:50.320 wants any violence to be happening on the streets of britain that's why we've all been talking about
00:22:54.320 preventing all of this from happening for a very long time but instead of addressing that problem
00:23:00.160 the problem they seem to be addressing is us talking about the problem and so they're shutting
00:23:05.680 down the spread of these the the facts about what happened effectively they want to suppress
00:23:11.680 political discussion of these issues and the problem that i have with that even even forget
00:23:17.280 about that it's morally wrong it's also just going to make this worse isn't it peter
00:23:22.560 long live trigonometry and long live gb news because at least we got some platforms where
00:23:29.740 people are fearless and they will tell the truth the country is in an appalling state and i don't
00:23:37.080 say it with with the aim of trying to incite people i say it because my heart breaks feelings
00:23:44.680 are running so incredibly high people have actually had enough they are seeing the face
00:23:52.300 of their nation change in front of them and the politicians keep allowing it to happen what
00:23:58.700 actually is needed if there is going to be if this disquiet is going to be calmed in any way shape or
00:24:05.980 form we actually need a donald trump-esque ice type rounding up of thousands upon thousands upon
00:24:15.500 thousands of people who have absolutely no right to be here who are not contributing to the uk
00:24:22.680 in any way shape or form and they need putting on planes bucks trucks and boats and shifted out of
00:24:30.000 here that is what it will take the the problem is patrick is that may very well be true but
00:24:40.000 we're a million miles from that we don't even have a border let's be honest we're a country
00:24:46.080 without a border that's like saying to somebody you've got to do your a-levels and you go mate
00:24:51.080 he's two years old he can't even talk yet i know it's staggering isn't it and and just on that as
00:24:59.240 well i was thinking whilst peter was talking about we've seen these flashpoints recently and
00:25:04.720 we've all said it we all know i don't condemn people going door to door and torture people's
00:25:07.980 houses. It's a shame that that needs to be said, but I don't know that stuff. But when you think
00:25:13.500 about it, we didn't have riots after 7-7. We didn't have riots after Westminster Bridge terror
00:25:19.740 attack. We didn't have riots after the London Bridge terror attack. We didn't have riots after
00:25:23.280 the Manchester Arena bombing. In fact, we didn't look back in anger there, did we? Famously. We
00:25:28.600 didn't have riots after the synagogue attack recently in Manchester. I could go on and on
00:25:33.240 on we didn't have riots and we didn't have riots after uh an iranian and two egyptian men were put
00:25:39.960 up in a migrant hotel small boat migrants that literally the picture of the migrant hotel has a
00:25:44.760 red carpet outside the front of it and a spa you could not make this up with four poster beds with
00:25:49.960 the old kind of you know kind of um sheets but the the rates a girl on brighton beach and described
00:25:57.400 in court when they were asked if they knew the difference between what what what rape and sex 0.94
00:26:02.120 was he just said rapist sex yeah there were no riots after all of his stuff i really resent the
00:26:08.280 idea that now because it's kicked off in a in quite a working class part of northern ireland
00:26:13.400 and because it kicked off a little bit in a working class area of southampton and what we
00:26:18.120 saw southampton and what we saw after southport sorry that we are now this horrible nation of
00:26:23.960 virulent violent racists you know we have been actually really bloody tolerant for an incredibly
00:26:29.160 long period of time in this country and I am not condoning anyone going out and doing this stuff
00:26:33.120 but if people politicians can't get it into their heads as to why people have got so angry and why
00:26:40.740 it's got to boiling point why we've ended up in a powder keg situation then the problem is going
00:26:45.040 to get worse and constantly you were spot on I think for all those people on the left that are
00:26:49.160 going oh you're staring it up aren't you oh but we're the ones trying to stop this you can diagnose
00:26:54.260 the problem and you can come up with a solution to the problem and you can do your best to stop
00:26:58.300 from happening again and if something terrible does happen come out to the public say look we
00:27:03.020 understand your concerns we're sorry about this we're going to take a step to do this don't come
00:27:06.220 out and talk to me about diversity and inclusion and say oh actually it's all right actually that
00:27:10.700 this bloke nearly lost his head in belfast because you know the person who's treating him in hospital
00:27:15.020 they're probably a migrant as well which is literally what was said on sky news i mean it's 0.97
00:27:19.980 absolutely bonkers this stuff and and you know we have been very patient we have been i think very 0.99
00:27:25.180 reasonable as a country but it we have consistently voted for the opposite of what's going on here
00:27:31.340 and we are not doing well economically as well which really sticks the knife in for
00:27:35.180 want of a better phrase um and and now we are in in a powder keg situation and these politicians
00:27:40.460 would be better to stop trying to chastise us for our language like we saw in the house of commons
00:27:45.660 where someone said look do we want to stop importing these alien cultures and hillary
00:27:50.380 ben said oh what do you mean by alien cultures just clutching his pearls so you know what we 0.51
00:27:54.860 mean by alien cultures we mean things like child marriage fgm and beheadings in the street that's
00:28:00.380 kind of what we mean really well isn't this exactly the point patrick isn't this exactly
00:28:05.180 the point that i think a big part of the reason this debate has never got become never got solved
00:28:12.540 in some way is that i think the people who are pro open borders on on and everything else like
00:28:19.260 immigrants are all the same in their head so they think that like to let a bunch of ukrainians in
00:28:24.700 fleeing war uh is the same if if you do that you also then have to let a bunch of people from 1.00
00:28:32.220 sudan and without vetting them that are coming here illegally and in their brain that is like 0.52
00:28:37.100 the same thing and so they can't separate one from the other because then you would have to concede 0.96
00:28:43.340 that some cultures are better than others right you would have to accept that some people even
00:28:49.820 forget forget about the moralizing forget the better or worse framing let's just say
00:28:53.820 some cultures are like this and some cultures are like that and we might want some of these people
00:28:59.580 but we may not want some of these people and if you say that then the whole edifice comes down 0.98
00:29:05.020 like a house of cards 100 accurate this is it some cultures are better than others i'll just
00:29:12.540 say it you might as well add the other kicker to that costume which is at the same time as
00:29:16.060 that they're gaslighting us by saying that every single culture in the world is is equal they're 0.99
00:29:20.060 also telling us that ours is rubbish and we are the source of all evil blokes that look like me 0.98
00:29:26.140 me personally me personally i used to own slaves did i yeah all right well i mean i'm half greek 0.97
00:29:31.420 cyprian half republic of irish it's kind of two different groups of peasant really i don't think
00:29:36.140 we owned anyone we didn't really own anything to be honest probably were slaves a lot of the time
00:29:40.300 yourselves we were the slaves yeah uh but anyway this is yeah and and this is this is this is part
00:29:46.540 of the issue uh really and and again it's a fundamental misunderstanding when they go oh
00:29:50.540 well you were all right with the ukrainian refugees were you well yeah we were because 1.00
00:29:53.500 they were almost entirely pretty much um women and children and we could literally see the horrific
00:29:58.220 war that was taking place and i i think i'm right in saying this if you ask them like the overall 0.80
00:30:03.020 majority want to go home they'd like would like would like to stop being bombed by putin and then
00:30:07.900 And then they'd like to go home. Whereas what we are seeing now is, again, it's a travel agency for people from the third world who actually just want to come here and claim benefits. 0.99
00:30:16.300 There is a case going on in the Republic of Ireland at the moment, actually, of a Moroccan or Tunisian man who is in court accused of stabbing nursery school children.
00:30:26.560 And apparently he was in the country for about 20 odd years. And from what I can gather, there's no real indication that he ever had a job in that time.
00:30:34.020 it's just another one of those examples isn't it why are we like a bread basket for people from the 0.99
00:30:38.500 third world to come uh to just live at our expense and potentially commit commit heinous crimes but 1.00
00:30:44.100 the inability of our politicians to admit that certain cultures are better than others is it is 0.99
00:30:50.260 frankly just ridiculous it's also a lie and the thing for them now is that they've lost all they've
00:30:55.140 lost all grounds like when people say this stuff like all cultures the same that what it's just 0.91
00:31:00.660 ridicule them just ridicule them because they don't honestly believe it do they and they don't
00:31:04.980 honestly believe it because you can see the way they choose to live their lives as well who do
00:31:09.060 they surround themselves with where do they choose to live where do they choose to go on holiday
00:31:13.300 you know they are not going on holiday are they to places like sudan or eritrea or somalia which
00:31:20.420 you can do if you want and one of the reasons they do that is because they don't like the culture
00:31:25.220 and peter one of the people who get caught in the crossfire of all of this are the police
00:31:33.500 and i have a lot of empathy for the police because this isn't their fault a riot starts
00:31:40.340 they have to go in and time after time they're asked to deal with this and clean up after the
00:31:47.440 terrible policies that our politicians have inflicted upon the country believe you me
00:31:53.900 standing behind a shield having bricks and petrol bombs thrown at you is a very unpleasant
00:31:59.500 experience and i absolutely condemn anybody that wants to do that um that's what you sign up for
00:32:06.620 when you sign on the dotted line it's interesting though that already numbers of police officers
00:32:12.300 were mobilized to go out to belfast from other parts of the uk um the police do seem to be able
00:32:18.940 to mobilize huge numbers of officers and find the money to do that whenever it suits them or whenever
00:32:25.900 it suits the politicians but they don't seem to be able to mobilize in huge numbers in order to
00:32:32.880 deploy on areas where there is shocking levels of knife crime and stop and search you know anybody
00:32:39.220 that there is some justification for that um yeah very convenient and when they see fit or when
00:32:45.060 their political masters tell them they can turn out in their thousands but when shops are getting
00:32:50.500 looted high streets are getting pillaged and knives are being carried freely where are they
00:32:55.400 can't find them and this is a real problem peter because it's really important that the public
00:33:05.440 respect the police and trust the police but in the wake of the horrific details of the henry
00:33:11.660 know that case and previously what has been leaked about the police that is simply disappearing and
00:33:19.420 it's putting them in real danger isn't it yes it is and it's very gloomy from my perspective
00:33:26.740 the public trust and confidence in the police is tanking but it's hardly surprising they've
00:33:33.080 retreated to their fortress-like police stations they don't investigate the crimes that affect
00:33:39.060 everyday men and women anymore like burglary car crime and that kind of stuff hell here's your
00:33:45.180 reference number now go and report it to your insurance company so they're not connected with
00:33:50.160 the public in that kind of uh way the public had very little very little trust and confidence in
00:33:56.540 them certainly the people that i speak to and it's it's depressing i could go on all night as to the
00:34:02.380 reasons why but basically the police unfortunately now are not the public um like they used to be
00:34:08.960 like robert peel said they should be the police are the public and the public are the police
00:34:13.300 there's a huge divide the police have picked their side and they've gone over to being a
00:34:18.740 woke fluffy liberal progressive kind of service rather than a false and the people are not
00:34:24.240 forgiving them for that well you say the police peter but hold on a second surely you mean the
00:34:29.560 people at the top right because i don't think the odd the normal cop on the ground is on board with
00:34:33.840 any of this crap do you oh some of them are well unfortunately many of the you're absolutely right
00:34:41.100 to uh to pull me up on that there are some brilliant men and women serving on the front 0.99
00:34:46.000 line but so many of them and i hear stories on an almost daily basis they're afraid to stop and
00:34:53.160 search people of color because if you get an allegation of racism made against you that will 0.63
00:34:58.880 be investigated it could damage or end your career they are being subjected to this lunatic 0.51
00:35:06.120 brainwashing DEI race action plan training which deliberately wants different outcomes
00:35:13.700 according to different demographics which of course flies in the face of policing without
00:35:19.420 fear or favor and consequently they have to impose excuse me they have to impose what they're taught 0.53
00:35:29.260 and when they do it it drives that wedge that makes them in the public even further apart
00:35:35.180 people who would their natural default position would have been to like and respect the police
00:35:40.860 are sadly turning away from them in their droves that makes sense given the indoctrination that
00:35:47.900 that they're going through. Guys, we're going to come back to this conversation very shortly,
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00:37:25.780 patrick was i right in thinking you were very keen to jump in before francis appeared with
00:37:32.000 his flashy new suit you don't you don't miss a b do you consider francis by the way fantastic
00:37:37.640 the career in tally sales away it was what what i wanted to say was that was a point there which is
00:37:46.360 um about the standard of policing now if you look at the head of chief of police in in hampshire in
00:37:52.040 the isle of y he used to be at the met now the armed police shot a gangland trigger man called
00:37:59.640 chris kava who had shot a man in a nightclub and then tried to drive his car at armed police
00:38:06.680 officers before they shot him dead the met then charged well the cps along with the met then
00:38:12.780 charged the armed police officer with murder and made him stand trial the head of hampshire police
00:38:17.960 the now head of hampshire police was at the met at the time and he released a video and it was
00:38:21.480 this groveling apology to the family of chris kappa you know he was like i'm so sorry i can't
00:38:26.000 imagine what you're going through anyway a jury found this copper not guilty in the space of about
00:38:31.440 two hours the public had already decided this guy was not guilty and then by the time we saw the
00:38:35.380 cctv after the trial we were like how the flipping head did this ever go to court anyway that same
00:38:40.200 police officer is in charge of hampshire police now and in the wake of henry novak's murder and
00:38:44.640 the subsequent police inaction that took place there that in in my view i can't say that that
00:38:50.860 also killed him but it certainly didn't help matters did it um he had to have an apology of
00:38:56.780 sorts dragged out from him kicking and screaming three of those officers are still on duty apparently
00:39:02.160 he said yeah oh yeah we understand that it was a difficult situation and all this so you've got
00:39:07.400 that two-tier aspect of it there and the british public look at that and what do we see we see
00:39:12.860 where uh there was the potential for some tension amongst the black community still kind of quite
00:39:18.880 packed after the whole blm movement uh as well and he went out and tried to get in front of that
00:39:23.580 by by just issuing a groveling apology and helping to charge a police officer with murder
00:39:27.540 but then when it comes to henry nova it was obviously polish but also you know white and
00:39:32.000 was a bit of a uh a fracas there about the idea of this kind of anti-white racism that seems to
00:39:36.960 have infected a lot of our uh institutions at the moment he just doesn't give a toss does he
00:39:41.280 and this is the thing it's so annoying for the british public the other thing is i i am worried
00:39:45.600 that now more and more police officers have gone through university now i i peter will know better
00:39:50.160 than i do but i am of the view that we do not need a lot of our police officers to go to university
00:39:55.920 because what happens at university you know you get again kind of indoctrinated by this woke mind
00:40:00.960 virus so you go through the education system until you're 18 years old where you're being taught all
00:40:05.920 sorts of happy stuff and then you go to university where you know you're basically being force-fed
00:40:11.440 green party propaganda and all of this and anti-british wokery and then you go and join
00:40:16.080 the police force and then at the police force you're infected with it as well hampshire police
00:40:19.840 they made their police officers do three mandatory uh racial bias programs whilst they were out on
00:40:25.760 the b so what chance do these police officers have some of them really um i i do think they
00:40:30.560 needs to be a bit of a change there and and maybe we need to start deliberately recruiting more
00:40:34.800 police officers who haven't had the opportunity to be indoctrinated at britain's universities
00:40:41.120 and patrick if we look at it on a macro level what we're really talking about is the
00:40:46.000 disintegration of the social fabric isn't it really a hundred percent well the social contract
00:40:51.520 is completely gone hasn't it now and um it's the idea that if you go out and you work hard and you
00:40:57.360 you abide by the law and you do everything right and you love your country and you look after your
00:41:01.360 family and all of that stuff that really everything else will kind of be taken care of you've upheld
00:41:05.780 your side of the bargain well if you look around now we have decriminalized shoplifting essentially
00:41:11.680 um there's a tesco express just around the corner from where i live that has a shoplifting quota for
00:41:16.500 the day so quite often when i finish work it's shut because too many people have nixed stuff
00:41:20.620 you walk into a shop now see people filling their bags why are we paying for that you can't get a 0.83
00:41:25.160 pothole fixed on your road uh but of course you know they can refurbish flats uh for asylum
00:41:30.440 seekers there are around 50 different local authorities that we here at gb news uncovered
00:41:34.360 that had signed up or at least expressed an interest in refurbishing or purchasing brand
00:41:39.860 new council houses only for asylum seekers and refugees not for the young single mum not for
00:41:46.080 the homeless veteran not for you know people who've fallen on hard times who no fault of their
00:41:50.920 own or whatever the woman fleeing domestic violence who's had to get out of her family home no not for
00:41:55.960 that for people who've just arrived here that is a visible sign of the social contract uh being
00:42:01.080 completely necessarily broken again you know when you look at things like that basic safety i mean
00:42:06.120 i'm looking around nurseries now for for my son who's is is nine months old you know we're looking
00:42:10.680 around already sent to nursery and it is absolutely bleak that we are going around nurseries looking
00:42:17.160 at how how big is the the fence do they have barbed wire on it do you ever take them do you
00:42:22.440 ever take them outside is it like just a kind of very well-meaning you know very often kind of 0.99
00:42:27.320 female middle-aged nursery school worker that's in charge of taking like 15 infants to a local 1.00
00:42:33.720 park well can't really take them to the local park can we because what if there's a lunatic
00:42:37.720 with a knife there you know and i and it's it's just it's just absolutely it's absolutely bonkers
00:42:43.720 when you think about you know i went into spec savers the other day because i i think i need
00:42:47.320 glasses obviously it'd be weird if i was in there for anything else and um and i was the first thing
00:42:51.720 they asked me is what benefits you are and i was on non-benefits and then i just realized if i was
00:42:57.320 on benefit those glasses that i might have to pay 300 quid for i could just get and it's like why
00:43:02.680 what are we doing all of this for is is the tearing away of the social fabric and the social
00:43:06.760 contracts in this country and then at the same time we're being asked to to pay more and more
00:43:11.160 and that was revealed when in in pat mcfadden or labor ministers leaked messages with peter
00:43:16.920 mandelson of course the uh the world's most notorious pedophiles maybe was our u.s ambassador
00:43:21.880 for a while in that he said all of the conversations that labor backbenchers have now is who can we tax
00:43:28.920 more so that we can give more away in benefits and that's not that's not the social contracts 0.90
00:43:35.960 is it why why are we doing this you know what what are we doing this for it's ridiculous and
00:43:39.960 and the knock-on effects of that is is obviously as people leaving good people uh leaving leaving
00:43:45.160 this country of ours and that is a real shame peter and i want to i want to go back to a very
00:43:51.160 good point you made earlier because one thing that constitutionally i really struggle with doing
00:43:57.560 and it's not always served me well in personal relationships nonetheless i'm i can't swallow
00:44:02.840 lies that i'm supposed to pretend the truth and you were talking so powerfully about all of this
00:44:08.600 DEI stuff. And the thing that really strikes me as just the highest level of dishonesty that I've
00:44:14.260 seen for a very long time is that having spent at least a decade being told that because different
00:44:21.580 groups in history have been treated in a different way, we now need to treat some groups in a
00:44:27.300 different way to compensate for the terrible things that happened in the past. That was what
00:44:31.280 we were told. Now you can agree with it, you can disagree with it. Now that that is literally what
00:44:37.400 is happening the thing they said needed to happen we needed to treat some groups differently
00:44:42.000 that's happening people say we have two-tier policing we have two-tier politics we have two-tier
00:44:48.360 judiciary we have two-tier this two-tier that those people have then told no no no no you're
00:44:53.920 lying you're making this up when they just said for 10 years that's what we need and that's what
00:44:59.120 they wanted and they put it into the college of policing and then they put it into the police
00:45:03.360 and now that it's happening in the real world they're going no no there's no two-tier policing
00:45:07.880 as if that wasn't what they claimed they wanted all along the road to hell is paved with good
00:45:15.080 intentions many years ago during my period of policing and i've been honest about this at some
00:45:21.940 considerable cost i've been vilified and abused and all sorts of stuff there was some dreadful
00:45:27.320 things that happened to young black men at the hands of police officers they were fitted up they
00:45:34.840 were beaten up and that of course was appalling it kind of led to the 1981 riots in brixton and
00:45:43.400 i was there that friday afternoon and saw it all unfolding um but of course lord scarman did a
00:45:49.480 report and the best thing to come out of the brixton riots was the police and criminal evidence act of
00:45:55.560 1984 which at the stroke of a pen outlawed so much of which had been wrong and had caused so
00:46:03.800 much disquiet the current generation of senior police and their predecessors have bent over
00:46:11.720 backwards to try and right the wrongs of previous generations of policing and so they've gone
00:46:18.280 completely full-scale nuclear woke as a result of it and they've tried to reach out and treat people
00:46:27.560 differently and consequently unfairly it's all in an effort to appease and it's been utterly
00:46:35.640 unnecessary the pendulum has swung so so far that it needs to be brought back to the middle ground
00:46:43.240 where common sense applies where people will be will be policed fairly equally without any kind
00:46:50.520 of favor for any particular group but it's going to be led politically for that to happen because
00:46:58.600 the police so often follow the politics and we need the politics to bring that pendulum back
00:47:05.880 towards the sensible center ground from where it currently lives
00:47:13.800 one of the things you've just mentioned the sensible center i mean you look at
00:47:19.000 i mean labor or the labor party effectively i mean they're dead they're in power but they're
00:47:25.160 dead the conservatives party aren't in much better health it's going to be essentially
00:47:30.520 populism all the way down isn't it Peter
00:47:32.580 from here on in
00:47:33.500 yeah I think it will do
00:47:36.280 but if populism delivers what
00:47:38.460 people actually want and is
00:47:40.520 therefore popular
00:47:41.580 will that be a bad thing
00:47:44.140 people are desperate for change in
00:47:46.500 this country so much of what Patrick
00:47:48.600 so brilliantly
00:47:50.040 lays bare about hard work
00:47:52.480 in Britain's and the
00:47:54.340 dreadful state of the UK and being
00:47:56.380 asked what benefits you're on when you go
00:47:58.440 to Specsavers by the way Patrick
00:48:00.380 you can also get hearing aids in spec savers i don't have any and i'm not being paid by spec
00:48:07.480 savers but i just thought i'd throw it yeah the country's in an absolute apocalyptic mess it's
00:48:16.160 it's so appalling that once again to kind of go back to what i said at the at the top of the show
00:48:21.740 i really fear that there will be widespread outbreaks of violence and i really don't want
00:48:29.240 to see it but if the politicians keep gaslighting us if they keep lying to us if they keep pushing
00:48:36.120 the whole multiculturalism oh you know beads in our air kind of nonsense people are going to get
00:48:43.400 very very short-tempered i'm afraid and i was going to say come on jump in oh thank you sorry
00:48:51.160 guys so just just on this because we've spoken a lot about the dei and policing and the social
00:48:54.600 contracts and all of that i've just got a quick point here which is where does this end right 0.66
00:48:58.520 because we we know that the worst performing people in british schools are white working class 0.82
00:49:03.640 boys yet we have loads of different diversity schemes at things like top law firms top accountancy
00:49:09.960 firms universities that white people basically cannot apply for white working class or white
00:49:15.240 middle class people cannot apply for in fact there's only one university in britain which
00:49:19.240 unbelievably is in bradford where where specifically white working class boys can only apply
00:49:24.600 for a particular scholarship um and if we look at the demographics in schools we look at the
00:49:28.840 demographics that were released earlier on as well about uh parts of britain where where children
00:49:33.080 are not speaking english as a first language i just wonder you know where where does this end
00:49:39.000 at what point will we stop with things like dei schemes will we stop with things like unconscious
00:49:46.840 bias training is it when the general demographics of the country get to it being minority white
00:49:53.400 british is that is that the point is that is that it i i don't know and and that's one thing that i
00:49:58.760 think really really really winds people up we see these flashpoints that we've seen in northern
00:50:03.240 ireland like we see after henry nova like we see after southpaw but actually there's this kind of
00:50:07.240 constant low-lying thing which is that if the kind of i'm just going to say kind of speak very loosely
00:50:13.720 here when i say indigenous population people are going to kind of jump on that phrase but i think
00:50:16.440 i hope people know i mean like the indigenous population feel as though they are being actively
00:50:21.720 disadvantaged when it comes to things like jobs access to universities um and just in day-to-day 1.00
00:50:28.060 life that is an incredibly dangerous situation for people to be in and they can't lie to us anymore 0.90
00:50:33.000 and say it isn't happening if white working class boys were performing as badly as they are but they 0.94
00:50:38.480 weren't white they would have they would there would be entire government policies about this
00:50:42.780 right now but there's not and i just don't know at what what point does it end is it when we look
00:50:47.840 around and actually brits are a minority in their in their own country it's got nothing to do with
00:50:52.300 race i mean as in just just actual british nationals people who were born here are a minority
00:50:56.600 in their own country is that when we draw the line is it because it's going to have to come at
00:51:00.380 some point well it's a really important point and not enough people talk about this and that stat
00:51:07.460 is heartbreaking by the way and it's accurate i remember when i was teaching i i was horrified
00:51:13.800 that nobody spoke about this and look i'm gonna sound as if i'm banging a drum here but it's 0.66
00:51:20.580 because they're in this country there is an absolute sneering attitude to white working
00:51:27.720 class people but particularly white working class men and boys the ruling establishment
00:51:34.500 hold those people in absolute contempt and they don't care about them is my personal take on it
00:51:42.200 Well, yeah. And the thing with it is, is like if that was applied to any other group, it'd be bad. And it's bad when it's applied to white working class boys. Can we just not say it's bad to discriminate against certain groups based on ethnicity and religion and so on? And we don't want it to be happening to anybody.
00:52:00.580 so please don't tell us that advantaging this group reverses something in the past because
00:52:05.140 all you're then going to do is flip the scales the other way and now everyone's angry again
00:52:09.680 instead of just having what peter talked about which is policing and everything else without
00:52:14.600 fear or favor which by the way is one of the great inventions of britain and the rest of the western
00:52:20.440 world which is not really even remotely imitated elsewhere i mean if you if you live in many other
00:52:26.500 parts of the world there's a clear racial hierarchy everybody knows who is who and where
00:52:31.260 they are in that position and i don't really think that that's what we want in britain i thought that
00:52:36.900 was one of its best qualities that that was not the way we did things you know as we're running
00:52:41.280 uh towards the end of the show it just strikes me that i had a bit of a like out of body experience
00:52:47.080 while we were talking here and i just looked down almost on what we're talking about and i look at
00:52:52.320 the fact right we're talking about a number of riots in a in a small number of years it's basically
00:52:58.700 a riot every summer now effectively right over some horrible atrocity that happens we're talking
00:53:04.800 about people feeling unsafe we're talking about uh a completely unsustainable economic model where
00:53:11.140 we spend so much on wealth and so much on looking after people who are not even british that we
00:53:16.080 can't afford to pay off the interest on the debt forget about the debt right you put all that
00:53:21.580 together. I mean, I hate saying this, but if you were reporting on a country in the Middle East or
00:53:29.160 in sub-Saharan Africa and saying they've got constant riots, people are feeling unsafe,
00:53:34.560 the economy's in this kind of condition that we're talking about, you go, that's a third world
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00:54:15.480 can i come in there please um francis when you talk about white working class men and minorities
00:54:24.600 i grew up in a flat with my single mum i left school at 16. i've lived in london all my life
00:54:32.200 that is me i am a white working class bloke i've worked very hard 50 years so i might have the
00:54:39.320 trappings of a middle class life whatever that is so be it i as a white londoner i'm already
00:54:46.280 a minority in my home city and i find that deeply deeply disturbing disturbing just to talk about
00:54:55.560 patrick's um social contract if you've got a pub at the end of the road make sure you use it 0.93
00:55:02.760 because if it's a big pub and it closes in all likelihood it'll get covered into a mosque 0.86
00:55:08.840 now that's not islamophobia that's the statement of facts you can find many many large pubs in
00:55:15.080 london that have been converted into mosques and then when that happens people get driven out and
00:55:21.560 these things are going on so and i know we're about to wrap to anybody i say this don't pick
00:55:28.280 up a brick don't pick up a bottle and fill it with petrol these are our weapons it's called a pencil
00:55:35.400 sharpen your weapon get it ready for when we go into the ballot box and we put down our x's and
00:55:43.100 just make sure that those who have failed historically recently currently make sure
00:55:49.960 that they have absolutely no place, no power,
00:55:54.700 and no influence over how this country is run. 1.00
00:55:58.780 Well said, Peter.
00:56:00.540 Yeah, Patrick, just on that, let me say one quick thing
00:56:03.560 and then you take over, mate.
00:56:05.080 Delighted to hear your thought.
00:56:06.260 I just wanted to say that, Peter, I'm so glad you said that
00:56:09.460 because I remember coverage of BLM, for example,
00:56:13.100 BLM in America, burns down whole districts of cities,
00:56:16.560 takes over, armed with guards, 1.00
00:56:18.320 they take over a portion of the city and everyone and everyone pretends like this is fine and they
00:56:23.100 say oh a riot is the language of the unheard and all this stuff and i'm so glad that when we're
00:56:28.440 talking about this issue we are focusing on how to actually solve this problem because let's be
00:56:34.060 honest for a lot of people violence in this kind of situation it feels good it's an outlet for a
00:56:38.200 lot of other frustrations with life etc but the reality is that's not going to make this better
00:56:43.500 uh in a democratic society the way to achieve this is through the ballot box and i hope that
00:56:48.460 that message is what what gets taken out of this as well because we can't we can't lower ourselves
00:56:54.960 to the standards of the way that the left behaves when it comes to these things go ahead oh yeah
00:57:00.700 yeah well just to come back to your point about that that kind of you if you zoomed out and looked
00:57:04.760 in a from a third world level yeah for me it is an absolutely crying shame that we have cared not
00:57:10.280 one jot for european and western culture and if you look around now we obviously have been sold
00:57:17.880 an immigration ponzi scheme for legal immigration how on earth can it be that for years we had the
00:57:23.520 importation of over a million people and yet we all per capita got poorer i mean that itself is
00:57:28.380 saying well clearly this mass immigration thing hasn't worked but it's also the importation of 0.99
00:57:32.460 people from radically different cultures some of them are great don't get me wrong uh to you know
00:57:36.320 individual people but we've also imported other things we've imported sharia calls 0.84
00:57:40.720 we've imported increased honor killings we've imported increased female genital mutilation
00:57:45.600 we've imported people from various different parts of the world and maybe it is because they've seen
00:57:49.920 war or maybe it's just because over there there's a slightly rough society where the idea of seeing
00:57:55.280 extreme violence is actually quite normal and we've we've imported you know all of this kind
00:58:01.840 of stuff into our country at the same time as making the economy worse off and and and you
00:58:07.120 wonder why things start to look a little bit kind of third world uh in britain really and and i i
00:58:14.560 think to come back again to your point the idea that we have we are being told well this is actually
00:58:20.000 just fine in fact it's enriching this is this is entirely enriching uh for us it is just a lie
00:58:27.360 isn't it and again this is this was why it comes full circle to what we saw in belfast
00:58:32.480 what we've seen else elsewhere as well when people feel helpless when people feel ignored
00:58:37.520 and then people feel lied to it and i'm not excusing the burning down of people's houses
00:58:42.560 what i am saying is there's there's almost a kind of natural human reaction to out of born out of
00:58:48.240 total frustration and helplessness of i've tried everything else i'm going to explode i'm going to
00:58:52.880 explode you got the idea and it's not a mystery why it's happening it's not a mystery why it's
00:58:58.000 happening and if people have their votes listened to and their their feelings heard um you know then
00:59:04.720 then actually there's a good chance that we might be able to stop this going forward we might be
00:59:07.920 able to kind of put the cork back in but you know as it currently stands people seeing their entire
00:59:12.480 areas change their entire way of life changing and uh and everything it's not going to make
00:59:17.440 things any better is it no well that's the worry because if we carry on this current trajectory my
00:59:26.480 real concern patrick is that we're already in a terrible place but we're actually going to end up
00:59:32.240 somewhere far far worse that the vast majority of people who've lived in this country have never
00:59:38.720 seen before yeah quite and and i i am very fearful about this government because as we've already
00:59:46.160 spoken about even in the wake of a perception of different terrible things our politicians have not
00:59:51.440 not done anything uh to change policy and potentially tied the hands of police forces a
00:59:56.160 little bit as well and there are certain areas of the uk and i'm going to name liverpool here i know
01:00:01.200 that peter alluded to it earlier on as well if something happened in liverpool along the lines
01:00:07.360 of what we saw in in belfast it would go off it would absolutely go off um and i could name
01:00:13.760 several other places in in in the uk obviously i'm sure i'm sure we all we all could our policy
01:00:19.200 i don't understand how our politicians sleep at night taking that chance and then blaming the
01:00:24.560 people who might go off for it all and demonizing them and calling them all racist and thugs etc
01:00:32.000 we are sleepwalking into an absolute crisis here and the perfect time to do some quote unquote
01:00:39.680 radical policy like patrol your border more turn some boats back start deporting more people maybe
01:00:45.100 leave the echr or just deport them anyway and ignore the echr is now do it now britain is a
01:00:51.220 powder keg it would be a vote winner on a purely political standpoint anyway it would save us all
01:00:56.080 a shed load of money and get the economy in a better position and it would sort out public
01:00:59.840 morale why not do it it doesn't make any sense well gentlemen thank you so much both for giving
01:01:07.480 us your time tonight and your thoughts it's a terrible situation when we discuss it like that
01:01:12.240 but i think we owe it to the people listening to to be honest about it and so i appreciate both of
01:01:17.480 your uh forthrightness in this conversation uh we both do uh thank you so much everybody for
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