00:18:26.860And if it does all kick off, who is he going to rely on to fight?
00:18:31.520It's going to be those working class lads from places like Carlisle, from places like Runcorn, from places like, you know, Dagenham or whatever.
00:18:39.480Those same blokes who've been hanging Union Jacks or St. George's crosses up from their windows, the same people that he's been calling a racist.
00:18:46.440He's going to be relying on those lads to actually fight for our country.
00:18:49.240And, you know, then maybe he's going to get a bit of a wake-up call and think, actually, these are the people that we should be prioritising, not someone who has literally just come over here from Sudan or Eritrea.0.63
00:18:59.960I mean, we've got local councils doing free DJ classes for illegal migrants in places like Croydon, free gym memberships.0.95
00:19:07.620You can go to the football in Brighton for free if you're an illegal migrant.0.98
00:19:10.720I can't do any of that stuff for free.0.88
00:19:13.580um peter we can't keep going down this path because resentment and anger are going to build
00:19:21.140we're in the summer months traditionally that's when riots happen it could be the case that the
00:19:27.720police start to lose control don't they i was in liverpool on tuesday night um because of work
00:19:34.940and i heard a lot of police sirens so i followed the cars and they stopped about 100 meters from
00:19:41.120hotel where i was staying what had happened was a crowd had gathered of people about 200 people
00:19:47.280some were union jack flags uh only a couple with face coverings they gathered outside a migrant
00:19:54.000hotel the regency in hatton garden in liverpool not the hatton garden in london um and there was
00:20:00.640a lot of anger resentment at the occupants of this migrant hotel that had taken over the hotel
00:20:08.720that one fella came up to me he said peter i got married in that hotel five years ago
00:20:13.600and it was beautiful he said take a look at it now um the police found many many officers to
00:20:19.680mobilize to blockade to the front of the hotel and they were there for some considerable time
00:20:24.960before the crowd dispersed but speaking of people there i was hearing horror stories about other
00:20:31.680parts of liverpool in particular an area called kensington in liverpool once again not to be
00:20:37.680confused with a kensington in london stories of hmos huge numbers of migrants some of the criminal
00:20:44.960offenses that i was told about are so disgusting that i'm not even going to repeat them here
00:20:51.200but when i said did the victims report these crimes to the police they were saying no because
00:20:59.840if we've reported to the police my dad might find out and i'm too scared what my dad will do
00:21:06.800by way of retribution and i don't want my dad to go to prison now of course i can't i can't condone
00:21:14.880that any possible retribution at all but that's how people are thinking so their area is changed
00:21:21.120beyond recognition and not for the better crimes are being committed and they're fearful of
00:21:26.560reporting it to the police because of exactly what will happen and people are at the end of their
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00:22:27.360and at the same time peter the thing that i think is undoubtedly going to make all of this worse
00:22:33.120is what patrick talked about earlier which is the response from the authorities and the response
00:22:38.400particularly from the politicians who whose solution to people talking about the problem
00:22:44.480and increasingly regrets regrettably taking actions to their hands of course no one here
00:22:50.320wants any violence to be happening on the streets of britain that's why we've all been talking about
00:22:54.320preventing all of this from happening for a very long time but instead of addressing that problem
00:23:00.160the problem they seem to be addressing is us talking about the problem and so they're shutting
00:23:05.680down the spread of these the the facts about what happened effectively they want to suppress
00:23:11.680political discussion of these issues and the problem that i have with that even even forget
00:23:17.280about that it's morally wrong it's also just going to make this worse isn't it peter
00:23:22.560long live trigonometry and long live gb news because at least we got some platforms where
00:23:29.740people are fearless and they will tell the truth the country is in an appalling state and i don't
00:23:37.080say it with with the aim of trying to incite people i say it because my heart breaks feelings
00:23:44.680are running so incredibly high people have actually had enough they are seeing the face
00:23:52.300of their nation change in front of them and the politicians keep allowing it to happen what
00:23:58.700actually is needed if there is going to be if this disquiet is going to be calmed in any way shape or
00:24:05.980form we actually need a donald trump-esque ice type rounding up of thousands upon thousands upon
00:24:15.500thousands of people who have absolutely no right to be here who are not contributing to the uk
00:24:22.680in any way shape or form and they need putting on planes bucks trucks and boats and shifted out of
00:24:30.000here that is what it will take the the problem is patrick is that may very well be true but
00:24:40.000we're a million miles from that we don't even have a border let's be honest we're a country
00:24:46.080without a border that's like saying to somebody you've got to do your a-levels and you go mate
00:24:51.080he's two years old he can't even talk yet i know it's staggering isn't it and and just on that as
00:24:59.240well i was thinking whilst peter was talking about we've seen these flashpoints recently and
00:25:04.720we've all said it we all know i don't condemn people going door to door and torture people's
00:25:07.980houses. It's a shame that that needs to be said, but I don't know that stuff. But when you think
00:25:13.500about it, we didn't have riots after 7-7. We didn't have riots after Westminster Bridge terror
00:25:19.740attack. We didn't have riots after the London Bridge terror attack. We didn't have riots after
00:25:23.280the Manchester Arena bombing. In fact, we didn't look back in anger there, did we? Famously. We
00:25:28.600didn't have riots after the synagogue attack recently in Manchester. I could go on and on
00:25:33.240on we didn't have riots and we didn't have riots after uh an iranian and two egyptian men were put
00:25:39.960up in a migrant hotel small boat migrants that literally the picture of the migrant hotel has a
00:25:44.760red carpet outside the front of it and a spa you could not make this up with four poster beds with
00:25:49.960the old kind of you know kind of um sheets but the the rates a girl on brighton beach and described
00:25:57.400in court when they were asked if they knew the difference between what what what rape and sex0.94
00:26:02.120was he just said rapist sex yeah there were no riots after all of his stuff i really resent the
00:26:08.280idea that now because it's kicked off in a in quite a working class part of northern ireland
00:26:13.400and because it kicked off a little bit in a working class area of southampton and what we
00:26:18.120saw southampton and what we saw after southport sorry that we are now this horrible nation of
00:26:23.960virulent violent racists you know we have been actually really bloody tolerant for an incredibly
00:26:29.160long period of time in this country and I am not condoning anyone going out and doing this stuff
00:26:33.120but if people politicians can't get it into their heads as to why people have got so angry and why
00:26:40.740it's got to boiling point why we've ended up in a powder keg situation then the problem is going
00:26:45.040to get worse and constantly you were spot on I think for all those people on the left that are
00:26:49.160going oh you're staring it up aren't you oh but we're the ones trying to stop this you can diagnose
00:26:54.260the problem and you can come up with a solution to the problem and you can do your best to stop
00:26:58.300from happening again and if something terrible does happen come out to the public say look we
00:27:03.020understand your concerns we're sorry about this we're going to take a step to do this don't come
00:27:06.220out and talk to me about diversity and inclusion and say oh actually it's all right actually that
00:27:10.700this bloke nearly lost his head in belfast because you know the person who's treating him in hospital
00:27:15.020they're probably a migrant as well which is literally what was said on sky news i mean it's0.97
00:27:19.980absolutely bonkers this stuff and and you know we have been very patient we have been i think very0.99
00:27:25.180reasonable as a country but it we have consistently voted for the opposite of what's going on here
00:27:31.340and we are not doing well economically as well which really sticks the knife in for
00:27:35.180want of a better phrase um and and now we are in in a powder keg situation and these politicians
00:27:40.460would be better to stop trying to chastise us for our language like we saw in the house of commons
00:27:45.660where someone said look do we want to stop importing these alien cultures and hillary
00:27:50.380ben said oh what do you mean by alien cultures just clutching his pearls so you know what we0.51
00:27:54.860mean by alien cultures we mean things like child marriage fgm and beheadings in the street that's
00:28:00.380kind of what we mean really well isn't this exactly the point patrick isn't this exactly
00:28:05.180the point that i think a big part of the reason this debate has never got become never got solved
00:28:12.540in some way is that i think the people who are pro open borders on on and everything else like
00:28:19.260immigrants are all the same in their head so they think that like to let a bunch of ukrainians in
00:28:24.700fleeing war uh is the same if if you do that you also then have to let a bunch of people from1.00
00:28:32.220sudan and without vetting them that are coming here illegally and in their brain that is like0.52
00:28:37.100the same thing and so they can't separate one from the other because then you would have to concede0.96
00:28:43.340that some cultures are better than others right you would have to accept that some people even
00:28:49.820forget forget about the moralizing forget the better or worse framing let's just say
00:28:53.820some cultures are like this and some cultures are like that and we might want some of these people
00:28:59.580but we may not want some of these people and if you say that then the whole edifice comes down0.98
00:29:05.020like a house of cards 100 accurate this is it some cultures are better than others i'll just
00:29:12.540say it you might as well add the other kicker to that costume which is at the same time as
00:29:16.060that they're gaslighting us by saying that every single culture in the world is is equal they're0.99
00:29:20.060also telling us that ours is rubbish and we are the source of all evil blokes that look like me0.98
00:29:26.140me personally me personally i used to own slaves did i yeah all right well i mean i'm half greek0.97
00:29:31.420cyprian half republic of irish it's kind of two different groups of peasant really i don't think
00:29:36.140we owned anyone we didn't really own anything to be honest probably were slaves a lot of the time
00:29:40.300yourselves we were the slaves yeah uh but anyway this is yeah and and this is this is this is part
00:29:46.540of the issue uh really and and again it's a fundamental misunderstanding when they go oh
00:29:50.540well you were all right with the ukrainian refugees were you well yeah we were because1.00
00:29:53.500they were almost entirely pretty much um women and children and we could literally see the horrific
00:29:58.220war that was taking place and i i think i'm right in saying this if you ask them like the overall0.80
00:30:03.020majority want to go home they'd like would like would like to stop being bombed by putin and then
00:30:07.900And then they'd like to go home. Whereas what we are seeing now is, again, it's a travel agency for people from the third world who actually just want to come here and claim benefits.0.99
00:30:16.300There is a case going on in the Republic of Ireland at the moment, actually, of a Moroccan or Tunisian man who is in court accused of stabbing nursery school children.
00:30:26.560And apparently he was in the country for about 20 odd years. And from what I can gather, there's no real indication that he ever had a job in that time.
00:30:34.020it's just another one of those examples isn't it why are we like a bread basket for people from the0.99
00:30:38.500third world to come uh to just live at our expense and potentially commit commit heinous crimes but1.00
00:30:44.100the inability of our politicians to admit that certain cultures are better than others is it is0.99
00:30:50.260frankly just ridiculous it's also a lie and the thing for them now is that they've lost all they've
00:30:55.140lost all grounds like when people say this stuff like all cultures the same that what it's just0.91
00:31:00.660ridicule them just ridicule them because they don't honestly believe it do they and they don't
00:31:04.980honestly believe it because you can see the way they choose to live their lives as well who do
00:31:09.060they surround themselves with where do they choose to live where do they choose to go on holiday
00:31:13.300you know they are not going on holiday are they to places like sudan or eritrea or somalia which
00:31:20.420you can do if you want and one of the reasons they do that is because they don't like the culture
00:31:25.220and peter one of the people who get caught in the crossfire of all of this are the police
00:31:33.500and i have a lot of empathy for the police because this isn't their fault a riot starts
00:31:40.340they have to go in and time after time they're asked to deal with this and clean up after the
00:31:47.440terrible policies that our politicians have inflicted upon the country believe you me
00:31:53.900standing behind a shield having bricks and petrol bombs thrown at you is a very unpleasant
00:31:59.500experience and i absolutely condemn anybody that wants to do that um that's what you sign up for
00:32:06.620when you sign on the dotted line it's interesting though that already numbers of police officers
00:32:12.300were mobilized to go out to belfast from other parts of the uk um the police do seem to be able
00:32:18.940to mobilize huge numbers of officers and find the money to do that whenever it suits them or whenever
00:32:25.900it suits the politicians but they don't seem to be able to mobilize in huge numbers in order to
00:32:32.880deploy on areas where there is shocking levels of knife crime and stop and search you know anybody
00:32:39.220that there is some justification for that um yeah very convenient and when they see fit or when
00:32:45.060their political masters tell them they can turn out in their thousands but when shops are getting
00:32:50.500looted high streets are getting pillaged and knives are being carried freely where are they
00:32:55.400can't find them and this is a real problem peter because it's really important that the public
00:33:05.440respect the police and trust the police but in the wake of the horrific details of the henry
00:33:11.660know that case and previously what has been leaked about the police that is simply disappearing and
00:33:19.420it's putting them in real danger isn't it yes it is and it's very gloomy from my perspective
00:33:26.740the public trust and confidence in the police is tanking but it's hardly surprising they've
00:33:33.080retreated to their fortress-like police stations they don't investigate the crimes that affect
00:33:39.060everyday men and women anymore like burglary car crime and that kind of stuff hell here's your
00:33:45.180reference number now go and report it to your insurance company so they're not connected with
00:33:50.160the public in that kind of uh way the public had very little very little trust and confidence in
00:33:56.540them certainly the people that i speak to and it's it's depressing i could go on all night as to the
00:34:02.380reasons why but basically the police unfortunately now are not the public um like they used to be
00:34:08.960like robert peel said they should be the police are the public and the public are the police
00:34:13.300there's a huge divide the police have picked their side and they've gone over to being a
00:34:18.740woke fluffy liberal progressive kind of service rather than a false and the people are not
00:34:24.240forgiving them for that well you say the police peter but hold on a second surely you mean the
00:34:29.560people at the top right because i don't think the odd the normal cop on the ground is on board with
00:34:33.840any of this crap do you oh some of them are well unfortunately many of the you're absolutely right
00:34:41.100to uh to pull me up on that there are some brilliant men and women serving on the front0.99
00:34:46.000line but so many of them and i hear stories on an almost daily basis they're afraid to stop and
00:34:53.160search people of color because if you get an allegation of racism made against you that will0.63
00:34:58.880be investigated it could damage or end your career they are being subjected to this lunatic0.51
00:35:06.120brainwashing DEI race action plan training which deliberately wants different outcomes
00:35:13.700according to different demographics which of course flies in the face of policing without
00:35:19.420fear or favor and consequently they have to impose excuse me they have to impose what they're taught0.53
00:35:29.260and when they do it it drives that wedge that makes them in the public even further apart
00:35:35.180people who would their natural default position would have been to like and respect the police
00:35:40.860are sadly turning away from them in their droves that makes sense given the indoctrination that
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00:37:25.780patrick was i right in thinking you were very keen to jump in before francis appeared with
00:37:32.000his flashy new suit you don't you don't miss a b do you consider francis by the way fantastic
00:37:37.640the career in tally sales away it was what what i wanted to say was that was a point there which is
00:37:46.360um about the standard of policing now if you look at the head of chief of police in in hampshire in
00:37:52.040the isle of y he used to be at the met now the armed police shot a gangland trigger man called
00:37:59.640chris kava who had shot a man in a nightclub and then tried to drive his car at armed police
00:38:06.680officers before they shot him dead the met then charged well the cps along with the met then
00:38:12.780charged the armed police officer with murder and made him stand trial the head of hampshire police
00:38:17.960the now head of hampshire police was at the met at the time and he released a video and it was
00:38:21.480this groveling apology to the family of chris kappa you know he was like i'm so sorry i can't
00:38:26.000imagine what you're going through anyway a jury found this copper not guilty in the space of about
00:38:31.440two hours the public had already decided this guy was not guilty and then by the time we saw the
00:38:35.380cctv after the trial we were like how the flipping head did this ever go to court anyway that same
00:38:40.200police officer is in charge of hampshire police now and in the wake of henry novak's murder and
00:38:44.640the subsequent police inaction that took place there that in in my view i can't say that that
00:38:50.860also killed him but it certainly didn't help matters did it um he had to have an apology of
00:38:56.780sorts dragged out from him kicking and screaming three of those officers are still on duty apparently
00:39:02.160he said yeah oh yeah we understand that it was a difficult situation and all this so you've got
00:39:07.400that two-tier aspect of it there and the british public look at that and what do we see we see
00:39:12.860where uh there was the potential for some tension amongst the black community still kind of quite
00:39:18.880packed after the whole blm movement uh as well and he went out and tried to get in front of that
00:39:23.580by by just issuing a groveling apology and helping to charge a police officer with murder
00:39:27.540but then when it comes to henry nova it was obviously polish but also you know white and
00:39:32.000was a bit of a uh a fracas there about the idea of this kind of anti-white racism that seems to
00:39:36.960have infected a lot of our uh institutions at the moment he just doesn't give a toss does he
00:39:41.280and this is the thing it's so annoying for the british public the other thing is i i am worried
00:39:45.600that now more and more police officers have gone through university now i i peter will know better
00:39:50.160than i do but i am of the view that we do not need a lot of our police officers to go to university
00:39:55.920because what happens at university you know you get again kind of indoctrinated by this woke mind
00:40:00.960virus so you go through the education system until you're 18 years old where you're being taught all
00:40:05.920sorts of happy stuff and then you go to university where you know you're basically being force-fed
00:40:11.440green party propaganda and all of this and anti-british wokery and then you go and join
00:40:16.080the police force and then at the police force you're infected with it as well hampshire police
00:40:19.840they made their police officers do three mandatory uh racial bias programs whilst they were out on
00:40:25.760the b so what chance do these police officers have some of them really um i i do think they
00:40:30.560needs to be a bit of a change there and and maybe we need to start deliberately recruiting more
00:40:34.800police officers who haven't had the opportunity to be indoctrinated at britain's universities
00:40:41.120and patrick if we look at it on a macro level what we're really talking about is the
00:40:46.000disintegration of the social fabric isn't it really a hundred percent well the social contract
00:40:51.520is completely gone hasn't it now and um it's the idea that if you go out and you work hard and you
00:40:57.360you abide by the law and you do everything right and you love your country and you look after your
00:41:01.360family and all of that stuff that really everything else will kind of be taken care of you've upheld
00:41:05.780your side of the bargain well if you look around now we have decriminalized shoplifting essentially
00:41:11.680um there's a tesco express just around the corner from where i live that has a shoplifting quota for
00:41:16.500the day so quite often when i finish work it's shut because too many people have nixed stuff
00:41:20.620you walk into a shop now see people filling their bags why are we paying for that you can't get a0.83
00:41:25.160pothole fixed on your road uh but of course you know they can refurbish flats uh for asylum
00:41:30.440seekers there are around 50 different local authorities that we here at gb news uncovered
00:41:34.360that had signed up or at least expressed an interest in refurbishing or purchasing brand
00:41:39.860new council houses only for asylum seekers and refugees not for the young single mum not for
00:41:46.080the homeless veteran not for you know people who've fallen on hard times who no fault of their
00:41:50.920own or whatever the woman fleeing domestic violence who's had to get out of her family home no not for
00:41:55.960that for people who've just arrived here that is a visible sign of the social contract uh being
00:42:01.080completely necessarily broken again you know when you look at things like that basic safety i mean
00:42:06.120i'm looking around nurseries now for for my son who's is is nine months old you know we're looking
00:42:10.680around already sent to nursery and it is absolutely bleak that we are going around nurseries looking
00:42:17.160at how how big is the the fence do they have barbed wire on it do you ever take them do you
00:42:22.440ever take them outside is it like just a kind of very well-meaning you know very often kind of0.99
00:42:27.320female middle-aged nursery school worker that's in charge of taking like 15 infants to a local1.00
00:42:33.720park well can't really take them to the local park can we because what if there's a lunatic
00:42:37.720with a knife there you know and i and it's it's just it's just absolutely it's absolutely bonkers
00:42:43.720when you think about you know i went into spec savers the other day because i i think i need
00:42:47.320glasses obviously it'd be weird if i was in there for anything else and um and i was the first thing
00:42:51.720they asked me is what benefits you are and i was on non-benefits and then i just realized if i was
00:42:57.320on benefit those glasses that i might have to pay 300 quid for i could just get and it's like why
00:43:02.680what are we doing all of this for is is the tearing away of the social fabric and the social
00:43:06.760contracts in this country and then at the same time we're being asked to to pay more and more
00:43:11.160and that was revealed when in in pat mcfadden or labor ministers leaked messages with peter
00:43:16.920mandelson of course the uh the world's most notorious pedophiles maybe was our u.s ambassador
00:43:21.880for a while in that he said all of the conversations that labor backbenchers have now is who can we tax
00:43:28.920more so that we can give more away in benefits and that's not that's not the social contracts0.90
00:43:35.960is it why why are we doing this you know what what are we doing this for it's ridiculous and
00:43:39.960and the knock-on effects of that is is obviously as people leaving good people uh leaving leaving
00:43:45.160this country of ours and that is a real shame peter and i want to i want to go back to a very
00:43:51.160good point you made earlier because one thing that constitutionally i really struggle with doing
00:43:57.560and it's not always served me well in personal relationships nonetheless i'm i can't swallow
00:44:02.840lies that i'm supposed to pretend the truth and you were talking so powerfully about all of this
00:44:08.600DEI stuff. And the thing that really strikes me as just the highest level of dishonesty that I've
00:44:14.260seen for a very long time is that having spent at least a decade being told that because different
00:44:21.580groups in history have been treated in a different way, we now need to treat some groups in a
00:44:27.300different way to compensate for the terrible things that happened in the past. That was what
00:44:31.280we were told. Now you can agree with it, you can disagree with it. Now that that is literally what
00:44:37.400is happening the thing they said needed to happen we needed to treat some groups differently
00:44:42.000that's happening people say we have two-tier policing we have two-tier politics we have two-tier
00:44:48.360judiciary we have two-tier this two-tier that those people have then told no no no no you're
00:44:53.920lying you're making this up when they just said for 10 years that's what we need and that's what
00:44:59.120they wanted and they put it into the college of policing and then they put it into the police
00:45:03.360and now that it's happening in the real world they're going no no there's no two-tier policing
00:45:07.880as if that wasn't what they claimed they wanted all along the road to hell is paved with good
00:45:15.080intentions many years ago during my period of policing and i've been honest about this at some
00:45:21.940considerable cost i've been vilified and abused and all sorts of stuff there was some dreadful
00:45:27.320things that happened to young black men at the hands of police officers they were fitted up they
00:45:34.840were beaten up and that of course was appalling it kind of led to the 1981 riots in brixton and
00:45:43.400i was there that friday afternoon and saw it all unfolding um but of course lord scarman did a
00:45:49.480report and the best thing to come out of the brixton riots was the police and criminal evidence act of
00:45:55.5601984 which at the stroke of a pen outlawed so much of which had been wrong and had caused so
00:46:03.800much disquiet the current generation of senior police and their predecessors have bent over
00:46:11.720backwards to try and right the wrongs of previous generations of policing and so they've gone
00:46:18.280completely full-scale nuclear woke as a result of it and they've tried to reach out and treat people
00:46:27.560differently and consequently unfairly it's all in an effort to appease and it's been utterly
00:46:35.640unnecessary the pendulum has swung so so far that it needs to be brought back to the middle ground
00:46:43.240where common sense applies where people will be will be policed fairly equally without any kind
00:46:50.520of favor for any particular group but it's going to be led politically for that to happen because
00:46:58.600the police so often follow the politics and we need the politics to bring that pendulum back
00:47:05.880towards the sensible center ground from where it currently lives
00:47:13.800one of the things you've just mentioned the sensible center i mean you look at
00:47:19.000i mean labor or the labor party effectively i mean they're dead they're in power but they're
00:47:25.160dead the conservatives party aren't in much better health it's going to be essentially
00:47:30.520populism all the way down isn't it Peter
00:48:00.380you can also get hearing aids in spec savers i don't have any and i'm not being paid by spec
00:48:07.480savers but i just thought i'd throw it yeah the country's in an absolute apocalyptic mess it's
00:48:16.160it's so appalling that once again to kind of go back to what i said at the at the top of the show
00:48:21.740i really fear that there will be widespread outbreaks of violence and i really don't want
00:48:29.240to see it but if the politicians keep gaslighting us if they keep lying to us if they keep pushing
00:48:36.120the whole multiculturalism oh you know beads in our air kind of nonsense people are going to get
00:48:43.400very very short-tempered i'm afraid and i was going to say come on jump in oh thank you sorry
00:48:51.160guys so just just on this because we've spoken a lot about the dei and policing and the social
00:48:54.600contracts and all of that i've just got a quick point here which is where does this end right0.66
00:48:58.520because we we know that the worst performing people in british schools are white working class0.82
00:49:03.640boys yet we have loads of different diversity schemes at things like top law firms top accountancy
00:49:09.960firms universities that white people basically cannot apply for white working class or white
00:49:15.240middle class people cannot apply for in fact there's only one university in britain which
00:49:19.240unbelievably is in bradford where where specifically white working class boys can only apply
00:49:24.600for a particular scholarship um and if we look at the demographics in schools we look at the
00:49:28.840demographics that were released earlier on as well about uh parts of britain where where children
00:49:33.080are not speaking english as a first language i just wonder you know where where does this end
00:49:39.000at what point will we stop with things like dei schemes will we stop with things like unconscious
00:49:46.840bias training is it when the general demographics of the country get to it being minority white
00:49:53.400british is that is that the point is that is that it i i don't know and and that's one thing that i
00:49:58.760think really really really winds people up we see these flashpoints that we've seen in northern
00:50:03.240ireland like we see after henry nova like we see after southpaw but actually there's this kind of
00:50:07.240constant low-lying thing which is that if the kind of i'm just going to say kind of speak very loosely
00:50:13.720here when i say indigenous population people are going to kind of jump on that phrase but i think
00:50:16.440i hope people know i mean like the indigenous population feel as though they are being actively
00:50:21.720disadvantaged when it comes to things like jobs access to universities um and just in day-to-day1.00
00:50:28.060life that is an incredibly dangerous situation for people to be in and they can't lie to us anymore0.90
00:50:33.000and say it isn't happening if white working class boys were performing as badly as they are but they0.94
00:50:38.480weren't white they would have they would there would be entire government policies about this
00:50:42.780right now but there's not and i just don't know at what what point does it end is it when we look
00:50:47.840around and actually brits are a minority in their in their own country it's got nothing to do with
00:50:52.300race i mean as in just just actual british nationals people who were born here are a minority
00:50:56.600in their own country is that when we draw the line is it because it's going to have to come at
00:51:00.380some point well it's a really important point and not enough people talk about this and that stat
00:51:07.460is heartbreaking by the way and it's accurate i remember when i was teaching i i was horrified
00:51:13.800that nobody spoke about this and look i'm gonna sound as if i'm banging a drum here but it's0.66
00:51:20.580because they're in this country there is an absolute sneering attitude to white working
00:51:27.720class people but particularly white working class men and boys the ruling establishment
00:51:34.500hold those people in absolute contempt and they don't care about them is my personal take on it
00:51:42.200Well, yeah. And the thing with it is, is like if that was applied to any other group, it'd be bad. And it's bad when it's applied to white working class boys. Can we just not say it's bad to discriminate against certain groups based on ethnicity and religion and so on? And we don't want it to be happening to anybody.
00:52:00.580so please don't tell us that advantaging this group reverses something in the past because
00:52:05.140all you're then going to do is flip the scales the other way and now everyone's angry again
00:52:09.680instead of just having what peter talked about which is policing and everything else without
00:52:14.600fear or favor which by the way is one of the great inventions of britain and the rest of the western
00:52:20.440world which is not really even remotely imitated elsewhere i mean if you if you live in many other
00:52:26.500parts of the world there's a clear racial hierarchy everybody knows who is who and where
00:52:31.260they are in that position and i don't really think that that's what we want in britain i thought that
00:52:36.900was one of its best qualities that that was not the way we did things you know as we're running
00:52:41.280uh towards the end of the show it just strikes me that i had a bit of a like out of body experience
00:52:47.080while we were talking here and i just looked down almost on what we're talking about and i look at
00:52:52.320the fact right we're talking about a number of riots in a in a small number of years it's basically
00:52:58.700a riot every summer now effectively right over some horrible atrocity that happens we're talking
00:53:04.800about people feeling unsafe we're talking about uh a completely unsustainable economic model where
00:53:11.140we spend so much on wealth and so much on looking after people who are not even british that we
00:53:16.080can't afford to pay off the interest on the debt forget about the debt right you put all that
00:53:21.580together. I mean, I hate saying this, but if you were reporting on a country in the Middle East or
00:53:29.160in sub-Saharan Africa and saying they've got constant riots, people are feeling unsafe,
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00:54:15.480can i come in there please um francis when you talk about white working class men and minorities
00:54:24.600i grew up in a flat with my single mum i left school at 16. i've lived in london all my life
00:54:32.200that is me i am a white working class bloke i've worked very hard 50 years so i might have the
00:54:39.320trappings of a middle class life whatever that is so be it i as a white londoner i'm already
00:54:46.280a minority in my home city and i find that deeply deeply disturbing disturbing just to talk about
00:54:55.560patrick's um social contract if you've got a pub at the end of the road make sure you use it0.93
00:55:02.760because if it's a big pub and it closes in all likelihood it'll get covered into a mosque0.86
00:55:08.840now that's not islamophobia that's the statement of facts you can find many many large pubs in
00:55:15.080london that have been converted into mosques and then when that happens people get driven out and
00:55:21.560these things are going on so and i know we're about to wrap to anybody i say this don't pick
00:55:28.280up a brick don't pick up a bottle and fill it with petrol these are our weapons it's called a pencil
00:55:35.400sharpen your weapon get it ready for when we go into the ballot box and we put down our x's and
00:55:43.100just make sure that those who have failed historically recently currently make sure
00:55:49.960that they have absolutely no place, no power,
00:55:54.700and no influence over how this country is run.1.00