00:25:57.660Is it weird though on some level when you're so used to grinding that when it finally happens, you go, I can't actually believe this is working.
00:26:08.040And sometimes you kind of forget, like, yeah, you kind of forget that you have maybe not a responsibility, but something, you know, people will listen to you in a different way or treat you differently, kind of.
00:26:23.880You know, whereas when you're killing in the oblivion, it's kind of, it's a safety zone.
00:26:31.240Like, I still, I still do love that feeling of like, but then you go to New York, like when you do gigs in New York, see, that's different because it's such a melting pot.
00:26:40.980There's no way that you're going to have mostly kill Tony fans in a room.
00:27:18.800But having that comfort is important too, I think.
00:27:21.180I think being always desperate to prove yourself can kind of limit yourself creatively because you'll always feel like, yeah, you have to prove yourself.
00:27:31.600Whereas sometimes bits that are bigger in picture and maybe a bit more unique to yourself come when you're in the comfort of being yourself.
00:35:53.980Yeah, it depends on who I'm talking to, I would say.
00:35:56.620But what do you guys, do you guys think it's like, it's like, you know, they always say that division is what they're, what the lizards are trying to make it happen.
00:36:07.920Do you think that's true that someone's trying to make us divided or it's just a natural thing that's, that's happening?