TRIGGERnometry - Dinesh D'Souza Calls Out Tucker and Candance Owens

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00:00:40.540 Dinesh, you mentioned Charlie Kirk a number of times

00:00:42.920 and it was obviously, you know,

00:00:45.320 it was a horrific moment for this country and for America.

00:00:48.500 But actually, just globally, I thought

00:00:50.700 it was just a horrific moment for the world

00:00:53.420 and seeing that happen to a father of two young children,

00:00:56.600 simply being killed because of his political views.

00:01:01.860 That was absolutely shocking.

00:01:05.060 And because of how shocking it was,

00:01:07.860 there was a naive part of me

00:01:09.540 that thought that this might be a reset opportunity

00:01:12.560 for everybody.

00:01:15.400 And I thought maybe the left will go,

00:01:18.760 oh no, we can't,

00:01:20.380 there are some Nazis and they have to be called out,

00:01:23.440 but we can't call center-right people Nazis.

00:01:27.200 We can't throw around labels like fascists

00:01:29.480 because I've said it on this show a number of times,

00:01:31.700 we said it on Joe Rogan yesterday.

00:01:33.500 If you keep calling someone,

00:01:34.740 if I thought the Nazis were here to invade,

00:01:36.500 I'd pick up a rifle and go to the front line.

00:01:38.320 So when you call someone a Nazi,

00:01:40.140 you are literally putting a target on their back.

00:01:42.860 And I also thought it might be a moment

00:01:45.920 in which the right might reconnect

00:01:49.020 around its core values and core ideas

00:01:52.180 and go, you know, we need to get together

00:01:55.080 and challenge all of this.

00:01:57.000 Well, what's happened is the exact opposite.

00:01:59.280 You know, the left is doubling down on all this stuff.

00:02:03.880 And on the right, you now have these very fringe voices

00:02:06.780 who are saying, you know,

00:02:09.280 a foreign country assassinated Charlie Kirk

00:02:12.620 and making up stuff about planes

00:02:14.960 that left before the assassination

00:02:16.860 that proved that it, all of this crazy stuff.

00:02:20.220 You've been quite outspoken about all of that.

00:02:23.120 Talk to us about this whole thing.

00:02:26.100 The, yeah, I think that,

00:02:30.220 look how strange it is.

00:02:32.680 You have, you had a militarization around Antifa,

00:02:36.240 which became publicly evident

00:02:39.000 over the George Floyd riots.

00:02:41.200 That's the Antifa element.

00:02:42.920 There's the BLM element, 0.99

00:02:44.460 which has somewhat subsided.

00:02:45.960 But what has taken its place

00:02:47.440 is these violent trans rings. 0.99

00:02:51.400 I'm not talking about people who are trans. 0.80

00:02:53.340 I'm talking about people who think

00:02:55.140 that the society is out to get them.

00:02:57.420 And so they go to training camps

00:02:59.360 and they talk about doing martial arts

00:03:01.860 or shooting people or fighting with weapons.

00:03:04.620 Now, again, I don't think there's a lot of reasoning

00:03:08.740 to be done with those people.

00:03:09.980 If you look at the Portland rioters,

00:03:11.580 if you look at these Antifa militants, 0.97

00:03:14.720 and if you look at these trans terrorists,

00:03:17.480 it's really important to sort of get to the bottom of it, 0.83

00:03:21.340 excavate exactly what happened.

00:03:22.920 And so there were some reports

00:03:25.140 after Charlie Kirk's assassination

00:03:26.440 that there was prior knowledge

00:03:28.200 of what was going to happen,

00:03:29.260 that there were people in chats talking about,

00:03:31.200 hey, something really big is going to happen.

00:03:33.280 Not just big happen.

00:03:34.060 It's going to happen to Charlie Kirk tomorrow

00:03:35.780 at so-and-so location.

00:03:38.180 Well, I mean, this would suggest,

00:03:39.620 if not a conspiracy,

00:03:40.640 at least prior knowledge of people

00:03:43.420 who knew that he was going to be going to be shot.

00:03:45.760 Now, just when the FBI, the authorities

00:03:51.060 are sort of moving the crackdown on all this,

00:03:54.920 along from the right comes Candace Owens 0.99

00:03:59.520 with this sort of idea that,

00:04:04.020 hey, let's take a look at these photos.

00:04:05.840 I see a pipe.

00:04:06.800 I wonder if a Mossad agent

00:04:08.020 might have crawled through the pipe.

00:04:09.700 I mean, stuff that is just absolutely crazy.

00:04:14.440 Now, again, if she were to produce

00:04:17.740 some substantial evidence,

00:04:20.740 a single reliable fact

00:04:22.720 that let's just say contravenes

00:04:25.560 the government's theory,

00:04:27.580 and she says it couldn't have been that,

00:04:30.000 because take a look at this.

00:04:32.200 But the investigative style,

00:04:34.720 although I admit it's from a certain point of view,

00:04:37.200 it's like irresistible to watch

00:04:39.240 because it's like listening

00:04:41.900 to a well-trained philosopher

00:04:45.060 who has completely lost his mind

00:04:46.740 and is now in an asylum

00:04:47.760 and is giving you crazy discourse,

00:04:50.920 but it's crazy discourse

00:04:53.140 that is embedded with witticisms

00:04:56.240 and all kinds of...

00:04:57.560 And you're like,

00:04:58.580 you can't turn away from it

00:05:00.320 from a certain point.

00:05:01.480 Candace is actually quite magnetic 1.00

00:05:02.800 in the way she presents information,

00:05:04.680 and she has a style.

00:05:08.240 It's an intellectual striptease 0.95

00:05:09.940 because she never puts her cards out 0.95

00:05:12.300 and goes, here's what I got.

00:05:13.120 She goes, okay, well, I got something.

00:05:14.920 Let me show you something.

00:05:16.280 You know, more to come tomorrow

00:05:17.620 and more to come the day after that.

00:05:20.260 It's a little deranged,

00:05:24.200 but it is...

00:05:26.740 There's something magnetic about it, right?

00:05:29.100 But look at the political effect

00:05:30.260 and how pernicious it is.

00:05:31.260 It's taking attention away

00:05:32.940 from the actual...

00:05:35.740 Not just the bad guy,

00:05:37.080 but these ideological bad actors

00:05:39.760 that are embedded in our society.

00:05:43.360 And it's basically telling everybody,

00:05:45.480 look over here.

00:05:46.280 It's the Jews or it's Israel 1.00

00:05:47.660 or it's Mossad.

00:05:49.660 Now, you'd have to ask yourself,

00:05:51.060 well, why would someone do that?

00:05:52.980 Right?

00:05:53.320 Or to look more broadly,

00:05:54.820 take the phenomenon now.

00:05:55.900 Go beyond Candace

00:05:56.760 and take the larger phenomenon.

00:05:57.940 You've got a strange

00:06:01.140 but pernicious alliance

00:06:02.560 between the cultural left

00:06:03.940 and the West

00:06:04.620 and radical Islam.

00:06:07.040 I actually wrote about this

00:06:08.500 in a book that I published

00:06:09.720 around 2006.

00:06:10.960 It was called

00:06:11.340 The Enemy at Home.

00:06:13.000 I was reacting to

00:06:14.360 Samuel Huntington's idea

00:06:16.000 that there's a clash

00:06:17.220 of civilizations

00:06:17.960 between us, the West,

00:06:19.640 and them,

00:06:20.700 meaning the House of Islam.

00:06:22.500 And my argument was,

00:06:24.160 not exactly.

00:06:25.800 There's a division

00:06:26.760 inside the West

00:06:27.680 and there's also a division

00:06:28.880 inside of Islam.

00:06:30.460 And I said,

00:06:30.980 not only that,

00:06:31.980 but the cultural left

00:06:33.280 is going to become

00:06:34.880 strange bedfellows 0.99

00:06:36.080 with the radical Muslims. 0.83

00:06:37.280 This seems fantastic

00:06:38.500 because the two groups

00:06:39.600 have utterly different

00:06:40.640 end goals.

00:06:41.860 And they cannot inhabit

00:06:43.060 each other's world.

00:06:44.540 And not only that,

00:06:45.440 but if they were

00:06:47.040 in full control,

00:06:48.160 they would come to blows.

00:06:49.640 But they are united

00:06:51.600 against a common enemy.

00:06:52.840 And who is the common enemy? 0.73

00:06:55.020 Well, it's the Jews 1.00

00:06:56.020 and Israel on the one hand,

00:06:57.920 and it's America

00:06:58.940 and the principles

00:07:00.200 of the West on the other.

00:07:01.880 So it would seem natural,

00:07:04.120 unavoidable,

00:07:05.040 that Jews and Christians,

00:07:06.680 America and Israel

00:07:07.500 should come closer together

00:07:08.700 in recognition

00:07:10.000 of this obvious,

00:07:12.680 nefarious alliance.

00:07:14.320 You know,

00:07:14.500 let's call it,

00:07:15.160 I filmed the dragons.

00:07:16.620 This is like

00:07:17.780 the devil's platoons.

00:07:19.240 All right,

00:07:19.860 well, the good people

00:07:20.560 need to come together.

00:07:21.420 So I can understand

00:07:24.220 why the left

00:07:26.180 is doing what it does

00:07:27.500 because it is

00:07:29.300 an ideological war

00:07:31.060 against the Jews 0.99

00:07:32.360 and Israel,

00:07:33.020 no less than

00:07:33.840 against Christians 1.00

00:07:34.620 on the West.

00:07:35.600 What I don't understand

00:07:36.820 is this movement

00:07:38.520 on the right

00:07:39.580 that is attempting

00:07:42.740 to sever

00:07:43.600 our connection

00:07:45.080 with Israel,

00:07:46.300 and I think

00:07:47.220 in the process

00:07:47.960 undermining Trump,

00:07:49.320 undermining MAGA,

00:07:50.240 undermining America's

00:07:51.600 national interests,

00:07:53.040 undermining the foundations

00:07:54.260 of the West,

00:07:54.940 which are Athens

00:07:55.560 and Jerusalem,

00:07:56.880 but on top of all that,

00:07:58.900 strengthening

00:07:59.640 radical Islam 0.85

00:08:01.520 and strengthening

00:08:02.740 the cultural left.

00:08:04.360 Hang on,

00:08:04.840 but you say

00:08:05.240 you don't understand.

00:08:06.380 Let me push back on that.

00:08:08.080 I think it's relatively simple

00:08:09.400 to understand, Dinesh.

00:08:10.520 How so?

00:08:10.820 If you go along

00:08:12.780 this way

00:08:14.140 of like,

00:08:15.360 the left have done this,

00:08:17.360 they've done

00:08:17.800 all these egregious things,

00:08:19.840 these tactics

00:08:20.500 to silence

00:08:21.240 and destroy, 0.85

00:08:22.260 to play identity politics,

00:08:23.920 to say if you're

00:08:24.520 white and male, 0.93

00:08:25.620 you're bottom 0.99

00:08:26.180 of the oppression pyramid,

00:08:27.620 which means

00:08:28.080 you're far less likely

00:08:29.680 to get a job,

00:08:30.560 far less likely

00:08:31.200 to progress.

00:08:31.980 It becomes socially acceptable.

00:08:33.340 Let's be honest,

00:08:34.000 to demonize you,

00:08:34.860 particularly if you're

00:08:35.600 blue-collar

00:08:36.180 and white and male,

00:08:37.900 you automatically

00:08:38.660 become thick, 1.00

00:08:39.420 stupid, 1.00

00:08:39.680 and racist, 1.00

00:08:41.500 then why wouldn't

00:08:43.180 you start to tribalize?

00:08:45.060 Why wouldn't

00:08:45.880 you become conspiratorial?

00:08:47.940 Why wouldn't

00:08:48.680 you go out 0.99

00:08:49.400 and attack the people 0.98

00:08:50.600 that you think

00:08:51.440 have done you wrong?

00:08:53.880 Absolutely right.

00:08:55.200 So I do not blame

00:08:57.460 the fractured,

00:09:00.540 dislocated,

00:09:02.180 angry young people

00:09:03.860 who are responding

00:09:04.860 in just the way

00:09:05.580 that you say.

00:09:06.580 I know why

00:09:07.560 they're doing that.

00:09:08.280 but I do blame

00:09:11.460 the Pied Pipers 0.92

00:09:12.720 who are leading them

00:09:14.240 to the precipice

00:09:15.240 who should know better,

00:09:16.800 right?

00:09:18.060 Let me try a few

00:09:19.020 other theories on you

00:09:19.840 because I don't think

00:09:20.620 the explanation

00:09:21.180 Francis gives

00:09:21.880 is fully here

00:09:23.100 because what it doesn't

00:09:23.960 really explain

00:09:24.600 is why there are

00:09:26.300 certain people now

00:09:27.120 absolutely obsessed

00:09:28.220 with the Jews.

00:09:29.400 Why are they obsessed

00:09:30.260 with Israel?

00:09:30.880 Because it's not

00:09:31.660 Israel or the Jews 0.99

00:09:32.960 that caused 0.77

00:09:34.000 the cultural disintegration

00:09:35.380 that you're talking about.

00:09:36.320 They didn't take over

00:09:37.340 college campuses

00:09:38.140 40 years ago

00:09:39.480 and introduced 0.99

00:09:39.980 all this anti-Western crap. 0.99

00:09:42.960 I think 0.99

00:09:43.760 there's a few things

00:09:45.180 going on

00:09:45.880 that I think

00:09:47.120 are contributing as well.

00:09:49.160 One of them is

00:09:50.000 I wrote an article

00:09:51.020 when Tucker Carlson

00:09:54.040 went to Russia

00:09:54.860 and interviewed

00:09:55.280 President Putin

00:09:56.100 which was called

00:09:56.980 Tucker Carlson

00:09:57.720 and the Woke Right

00:09:58.420 in which I basically said

00:09:59.460 that there is

00:10:00.300 these sections

00:10:00.760 on the right

00:10:01.280 that have become

00:10:01.840 very focused

00:10:02.900 on victimhood

00:10:03.640 and are replicating

00:10:06.260 some of the things

00:10:07.020 we saw on the left

00:10:07.760 in doing so

00:10:08.560 and when you're

00:10:09.500 focused on victimhood

00:10:10.480 you have to find

00:10:11.280 someone who's

00:10:11.860 victimizing you

00:10:12.840 and at that point

00:10:14.320 Jews and Israel

00:10:15.740 were not the thing

00:10:16.660 and I said

00:10:17.480 you know

00:10:18.160 for now

00:10:19.260 the label is

00:10:19.940 globalists

00:10:20.720 and those sections

00:10:23.120 of the right

00:10:23.460 keep talking about

00:10:24.380 globalists

00:10:24.940 but a globalist

00:10:25.840 isn't something

00:10:26.560 that you can visualize

00:10:27.580 no one has

00:10:28.740 like when I say

00:10:29.580 globalist

00:10:30.020 you don't

00:10:30.340 picture a person

00:10:31.580 doesn't come

00:10:32.080 into your head

00:10:32.640 so they were

00:10:33.420 looking for somebody

00:10:34.400 to be the

00:10:35.480 the scapegoat

00:10:36.760 the explanation

00:10:38.120 that explains

00:10:39.040 everything

00:10:39.420 like the left

00:10:40.260 explanation of

00:10:41.180 well everything

00:10:42.080 is because of 0.97

00:10:42.720 white supremacy 0.84

00:10:43.360 everything is because 0.96

00:10:44.660 of institutional racism

00:10:45.860 everything is because 0.92

00:10:46.840 of straight white men 0.98

00:10:48.360 saying that's one thing

00:10:50.120 the other thing is

00:10:51.380 once President Trump

00:10:53.980 gets elected

00:10:54.520 for a second term

00:10:55.500 in the overwhelming

00:10:56.460 fashion in which

00:10:57.360 that happens

00:10:58.060 what does the media

00:11:00.640 do

00:11:01.520 whose entire

00:11:02.480 new media

00:11:03.320 in particular

00:11:03.780 whose entire

00:11:04.380 identity

00:11:04.880 became

00:11:05.560 you know

00:11:06.520 it was the

00:11:07.040 anti-woke coalition

00:11:08.300 of which

00:11:08.980 trigonometry

00:11:09.540 was 100%

00:11:10.340 a part of

00:11:11.160 but once

00:11:12.120 that collapses

00:11:13.380 like we don't

00:11:14.060 really talk about

00:11:14.760 wokeness very much

00:11:15.660 anymore on the show

00:11:16.400 because it's kind

00:11:17.440 of I mean

00:11:18.220 I think it's

00:11:19.040 overstating the case

00:11:20.060 to say it's over

00:11:21.040 but it's not

00:11:22.480 the live issue

00:11:23.360 right now

00:11:24.200 right

00:11:24.960 we don't talk

00:11:25.820 about trans issues

00:11:26.760 which we used to

00:11:27.500 talk about

00:11:27.820 because it's not

00:11:28.400 the live issue

00:11:29.240 right now

00:11:29.800 so if you

00:11:32.140 are in a

00:11:33.300 right of center

00:11:34.140 media

00:11:34.840 personal channel

00:11:36.620 organization

00:11:37.360 you can either

00:11:39.060 keep beating

00:11:39.980 you know

00:11:40.440 you know that meme

00:11:41.140 of stop stop

00:11:41.820 he's already dead

00:11:42.680 right

00:11:43.440 that's not going

00:11:44.300 to get you any views

00:11:45.020 because beating up

00:11:45.760 on the democrats

00:11:46.500 I mean

00:11:47.040 don't even know

00:11:48.320 where they are

00:11:48.780 anymore right

00:11:49.340 so you have to go

00:11:51.700 the incentive structure

00:11:52.960 is to go in a more

00:11:54.400 conspiratorial

00:11:55.720 out there

00:11:56.700 direction

00:11:57.140 those are my two

00:11:57.900 other bits

00:11:58.500 that I'd put

00:11:59.160 to you

00:11:59.600 yeah

00:12:00.060 I have a bunch

00:12:00.860 little things

00:12:01.660 to add to that

00:12:02.420 so the first one

00:12:03.360 is that

00:12:04.400 the

00:12:06.520 in the Reagan era

00:12:09.040 in conservatism

00:12:10.700 there was a certain

00:12:11.840 I would call it

00:12:13.260 the intellectual

00:12:13.880 guardians

00:12:14.600 of the tribe

00:12:16.200 people like

00:12:17.380 William F. Buckley

00:12:18.660 Reagan to a certain

00:12:20.460 degree

00:12:20.760 but there were

00:12:21.180 others

00:12:21.480 Irving Kristol

00:12:22.280 and the idea

00:12:23.920 here was that

00:12:25.200 if you came in

00:12:27.260 with like

00:12:27.780 the poison

00:12:28.460 of anti-Semitism

00:12:30.360 blatant racism

00:12:31.880 you know

00:12:32.820 criticism of

00:12:33.460 affirmative action

00:12:34.240 yes 0.98

00:12:34.920 calling blacks 0.99

00:12:36.900 monkeys 0.99

00:12:37.320 no 0.67

00:12:37.880 so if you did

00:12:40.100 that

00:12:40.460 you were basically

00:12:41.360 asked to leave

00:12:43.460 the room

00:12:43.820 and you were

00:12:45.480 abolished

00:12:46.100 from the

00:12:47.100 you wouldn't be

00:12:48.180 invited to

00:12:48.680 conservative conferences

00:12:49.620 you certainly

00:12:50.140 wouldn't be a speaker

00:12:50.860 it would basically

00:12:52.240 be the end of you

00:12:53.060 as a public figure

00:12:54.360 so that's gone

00:12:56.420 and it's gone

00:12:57.780 why

00:12:58.100 partly because

00:12:59.040 we don't have

00:13:00.240 a conservative

00:13:01.140 intellectual class

00:13:02.660 that performs

00:13:04.240 that task

00:13:04.980 and why don't

00:13:06.660 we have that

00:13:07.300 well partly

00:13:08.340 because the

00:13:08.920 mainstream of

00:13:09.680 that class

00:13:10.460 went never

00:13:11.300 Trump

00:13:11.700 and so

00:13:13.160 when I look

00:13:14.400 around for

00:13:15.380 like if I were

00:13:16.260 to make a list

00:13:17.020 of let's say

00:13:17.800 30 of my

00:13:18.700 colleagues

00:13:19.300 from

00:13:20.400 the Reagan

00:13:21.540 days

00:13:22.080 I would say

00:13:23.160 that

00:13:23.620 probably

00:13:25.100 about 25

00:13:25.920 of them

00:13:26.520 went anti-Trump

00:13:27.600 and they went

00:13:28.340 to anti-Trump

00:13:29.020 in different places

00:13:29.880 John Bolton

00:13:30.540 is a little

00:13:30.920 different place

00:13:31.400 than say

00:13:31.660 Bill Kristol

00:13:32.460 but nevertheless

00:13:33.520 they're by and large

00:13:35.180 excluded from

00:13:36.540 MAGA

00:13:37.080 and what happened

00:13:38.640 is partly

00:13:39.140 as a result

00:13:39.660 of a cultural

00:13:40.300 shift

00:13:40.720 MAGA produces

00:13:41.720 a new type

00:13:42.700 of

00:13:43.260 a new type

00:13:45.840 of pundit

00:13:46.580 who is not

00:13:48.580 I mean

00:13:49.320 think of

00:13:49.800 the distance

00:13:50.260 between say

00:13:51.120 Irving Kristol

00:13:52.200 and Tucker Carlson

00:13:53.200 Tucker

00:13:55.300 doesn't even

00:13:57.520 purport to be

00:13:58.580 knowledgeable

00:13:59.180 about anything

00:14:00.100 right

00:14:01.040 so as a result

00:14:02.400 what Tucker

00:14:02.900 says is

00:14:03.760 I will develop

00:14:04.760 a ventriloquist

00:14:06.180 style

00:14:06.640 I have strong

00:14:07.420 opinions

00:14:07.860 but I don't

00:14:08.760 want to defend

00:14:09.300 any of them

00:14:09.900 so I will

00:14:11.420 set up a structure

00:14:12.420 in which I

00:14:13.100 bring in

00:14:14.060 sources

00:14:14.720 often rather

00:14:15.880 dubious sources

00:14:16.640 people you've

00:14:17.040 never heard of

00:14:17.820 you know

00:14:18.560 the nun

00:14:18.900 with the mustache

00:14:19.580 some disgraced

00:14:20.740 academic

00:14:21.220 and what I'll

00:14:22.120 do is

00:14:22.500 I will ask

00:14:23.520 sort of

00:14:23.980 leading questions

00:14:25.080 that

00:14:26.040 in which is

00:14:27.300 embedded

00:14:27.760 an answer

00:14:28.640 my answer

00:14:30.000 but framed

00:14:31.320 as a question

00:14:32.080 you then

00:14:33.200 will

00:14:33.860 blurt out

00:14:35.520 the obvious

00:14:36.380 implications

00:14:36.980 of the question

00:14:37.760 giving me

00:14:38.600 the answer

00:14:39.120 I expected

00:14:39.680 but I will

00:14:40.240 pretend to be

00:14:40.920 thunderstruck

00:14:41.660 by it

00:14:42.220 it's an epiphany

00:14:43.320 it's a new

00:14:43.860 revelation

00:14:44.480 people have been

00:14:45.620 suppressing this

00:14:46.320 kind of thinking

00:14:46.820 for decades

00:14:47.540 so this is

00:14:48.720 a shtick

00:14:49.400 it's a different

00:14:50.960 shtick than

00:14:51.540 Candace

00:14:51.920 Candace's shtick 0.99

00:14:52.760 is the Candace

00:14:53.760 intelligence agency

00:14:54.820 I'm like the

00:14:56.080 world's greatest

00:14:56.580 detective

00:14:57.080 you know I'm

00:14:57.920 the pink panther

00:14:58.600 of my time

00:14:59.240 I'm deputizing

00:15:00.360 all my viewers

00:15:01.300 also to be

00:15:02.120 detectives

00:15:02.720 feed me

00:15:03.420 information

00:15:04.020 we're going

00:15:04.400 to crack

00:15:04.720 the case

00:15:05.240 there's a

00:15:06.360 so to me

00:15:07.340 this is like

00:15:08.000 an intellectual

00:15:09.280 embarrassment

00:15:10.100 because all

00:15:11.800 my life

00:15:12.220 I've been

00:15:12.540 an iconoclast

00:15:13.360 I will take

00:15:14.440 on ideas

00:15:15.320 and I will

00:15:15.960 try to

00:15:16.380 dismantle

00:15:16.920 them

00:15:17.180 but not

00:15:18.220 in this

00:15:18.580 way

00:15:18.920 my ideas

00:15:19.520 are things

00:15:19.900 like this

00:15:20.440 the

00:15:20.820 you know

00:15:21.620 the

00:15:21.960 dixiecrats

00:15:22.740 all became

00:15:23.600 republicans

00:15:24.440 and my

00:15:25.340 strategy of

00:15:25.940 challenging that

00:15:26.620 is I go

00:15:27.240 make an

00:15:27.580 inventory of

00:15:28.240 the 200

00:15:28.700 dixiecrats

00:15:29.420 I put them

00:15:29.920 up on a

00:15:30.300 movie screen

00:15:30.880 and I say

00:15:31.260 all right

00:15:31.500 I'm now

00:15:31.860 going to

00:15:32.100 show you

00:15:32.620 through a

00:15:33.780 movement of

00:15:34.180 the mouse

00:15:34.640 which of

00:15:35.580 these 200

00:15:36.240 dixiecrats

00:15:36.960 became

00:15:37.260 republicans

00:15:37.820 answer

00:15:38.220 two

00:15:38.600 so did

00:15:40.220 the dixiecrats

00:15:41.000 as a group

00:15:41.400 become republicans

00:15:42.340 no there's

00:15:43.300 the empirical

00:15:43.720 evidence right

00:15:44.380 there on the

00:15:44.780 screen you

00:15:45.140 can check

00:15:45.440 it out

00:15:45.720 you know

00:15:46.220 for yourself

00:15:46.720 so so

00:15:48.100 when I see

00:15:48.660 this almost

00:15:49.680 parody of

00:15:51.180 investigation

00:15:52.380 parody of

00:15:53.280 scholarship

00:15:53.840 it's very

00:15:55.640 unnerving

00:15:56.380 now for

00:15:58.440 young people

00:15:59.380 just as

00:16:00.360 you said

00:16:01.080 there is

00:16:03.260 a susceptibility

00:16:04.200 to all this

00:16:05.020 and and

00:16:07.300 and also

00:16:08.260 there's no

00:16:08.820 easy check

00:16:09.660 on it

00:16:10.060 like for

00:16:10.460 example right

00:16:11.060 now I'm

00:16:11.460 in these

00:16:12.120 big debates

00:16:12.800 about

00:16:13.200 christian

00:16:13.840 theology

00:16:14.380 but I'm

00:16:14.900 debating

00:16:15.500 christian

00:16:15.960 theology

00:16:16.360 with people

00:16:17.000 who have

00:16:17.860 like listened

00:16:18.420 to two

00:16:18.900 podcasts

00:16:19.540 right

00:16:20.200 I've written

00:16:20.560 three books

00:16:21.080 on christian

00:16:21.580 apologetics

00:16:22.260 I've thought

00:16:23.000 about this

00:16:23.340 stuff for

00:16:23.640 30 years

00:16:24.280 but it's

00:16:25.840 difficult to

00:16:26.660 address people

00:16:27.380 who say

00:16:27.760 things like

00:16:28.200 Dinesh

00:16:28.600 open a bible

00:16:29.380 once in a

00:16:29.940 while you

00:16:30.400 might learn

00:16:30.820 something

00:16:31.280 I'm like

00:16:32.560 are you

00:16:32.880 serious

00:16:33.380 so

00:16:35.040 but but

00:16:36.880 our culture

00:16:37.520 has had that

00:16:38.220 leveling effect

00:16:39.140 this guy

00:16:40.020 who's

00:16:40.480 watched two

00:16:41.440 podcasts

00:16:41.920 on an

00:16:42.420 even

00:16:42.760 playing field

00:16:43.720 with me

00:16:44.220 now this

00:16:44.720 would not

00:16:45.000 have been

00:16:45.180 the case

00:16:45.540 in the

00:16:45.780 Reagan years

00:16:46.240 because that

00:16:46.680 guy would

00:16:47.320 not even

00:16:47.740 be that

00:16:48.920 guy would

00:16:49.240 not be

00:16:49.580 speaking at

00:16:50.020 a conference

00:16:50.500 at AEI

00:16:51.160 so there

00:16:51.580 was a

00:16:52.180 there was

00:16:52.800 a filtering

00:16:53.360 structure

00:16:53.920 that is

00:16:54.500 now

00:16:54.940 gone

00:16:55.560 and look

00:16:56.100 there's

00:16:56.440 good things

00:16:57.180 about that

00:16:57.580 well that's

00:16:58.000 right

00:16:58.120 I was gonna

00:16:58.820 say that

00:16:59.320 and I know

00:17:00.640 you've tried

00:17:01.880 to debate

00:17:02.460 this is one

00:17:03.280 of the other

00:17:03.620 things that I

00:17:04.120 do find

00:17:04.520 strange

00:17:04.920 because with

00:17:05.820 some notable

00:17:06.500 exceptions

00:17:07.100 quite a lot

00:17:08.260 of these

00:17:08.540 people don't

00:17:09.780 engage in

00:17:11.500 what used

00:17:12.200 to happen

00:17:12.660 which is

00:17:13.100 you come

00:17:13.460 together

00:17:13.860 and you

00:17:14.880 have these

00:17:15.480 debates

00:17:16.040 and discussions

00:17:16.800 but now

00:17:17.860 I think the

00:17:18.500 economic

00:17:18.860 incentives aren't

00:17:19.760 there you

00:17:20.040 don't need

00:17:20.540 to do

00:17:20.880 that

00:17:21.120 like if

00:17:21.540 you're

00:17:21.780 Candace

00:17:22.340 you just

00:17:23.500 do your

00:17:23.840 show

00:17:24.100 and you

00:17:24.460 make millions

00:17:25.080 of dollars

00:17:25.620 talking about

00:17:26.360 how you

00:17:26.820 someone you

00:17:27.480 used to

00:17:27.740 call your

00:17:28.080 friend

00:17:28.480 denigrating

00:17:29.180 his legacy

00:17:29.720 in my

00:17:30.080 opinion

00:17:30.380 and all

00:17:30.780 of that

00:17:31.180 but but

00:17:32.060 you don't

00:17:32.300 need to

00:17:32.560 go and

00:17:32.820 engage

00:17:33.100 in a

00:17:33.340 debate

00:17:33.520 there's

00:17:33.680 nothing

00:17:33.880 to gain

00:17:34.440 really

00:17:34.840 right

00:17:35.560 and so

00:17:36.300 everything

00:17:37.380 gets

00:17:37.680 siloed

00:17:38.240 something

00:17:39.340 we've

00:17:39.800 learned

00:17:40.060 doing

00:17:40.360 this

00:17:40.640 show

00:17:40.920 is that

00:17:41.540 people's

00:17:42.000 thoughts

00:17:42.260 about a

00:17:42.620 given

00:17:42.820 issue

00:17:43.120 often

00:17:43.440 depend

00:17:43.880 on

00:17:44.060 where

00:17:44.240 they

00:17:44.400 get

00:17:44.620 their

00:17:44.820 news

00:17:45.160 that's

00:17:45.960 why

00:17:46.140 we

00:17:46.500 use

00:17:46.860 ground

00:17:47.200 news

00:17:47.440 to see

00:17:47.820 how

00:17:47.980 the

00:17:48.140 same

00:17:48.400 story

00:17:48.800 is

00:17:49.000 reported

00:17:49.440 across

00:17:49.920 the

00:17:50.120 political

00:17:50.460 spectrum

00:17:50.980 for example

00:17:51.760 take the

00:17:52.240 story about

00:17:52.720 Chicago

00:17:53.240 mayor

00:17:53.640 Brandon

00:17:54.180 Johnson

00:17:54.680 signing

00:17:55.140 an

00:17:55.340 executive

00:17:55.820 order

00:17:56.300 creating

00:17:56.820 so-called

00:17:57.600 ice-free

00:17:58.520 zones

00:17:59.120 follow along

00:18:00.060 at

00:18:00.360 ground

00:18:00.680 dot

00:18:01.000 news

00:18:01.320 slash

00:18:01.680 trigonometry

00:18:02.340 using

00:18:03.060 ground

00:18:03.520 news

00:18:03.860 straight away

00:18:04.660 we can

00:18:05.020 quickly see

00:18:05.820 that the

00:18:06.120 story is

00:18:06.540 being covered

00:18:07.020 by sources

00:18:07.940 across the

00:18:08.580 board

00:18:08.860 but with

00:18:09.560 more coverage

00:18:10.240 from outlets

00:18:10.820 on the

00:18:11.180 right

00:18:11.560 scrolling

00:18:12.460 down the

00:18:12.920 page

00:18:13.260 ground

00:18:13.680 news

00:18:13.960 allows us

00:18:14.520 to easily

00:18:15.200 compare

00:18:15.660 the headlines

00:18:16.280 we can

00:18:17.060 see the

00:18:17.420 Chicago

00:18:17.860 Sun

00:18:18.300 Times

00:18:18.820 which is

00:18:19.520 on the

00:18:19.760 left

00:18:20.040 focused

00:18:20.600 on the

00:18:21.100 city's

00:18:21.520 decision

00:18:21.900 to declare

00:18:22.540 municipal

00:18:23.560 buildings

00:18:24.160 ice-free

00:18:24.860 meanwhile

00:18:25.580 the

00:18:25.920 Hill

00:18:26.160 a centrist

00:18:26.960 newspaper

00:18:27.500 simply stated

00:18:28.780 that Chicago's

00:18:29.700 mayor

00:18:29.900 signs

00:18:30.540 ice-free

00:18:31.480 zone

00:18:31.940 executive

00:18:32.600 order

00:18:33.020 but the

00:18:33.700 New York

00:18:34.240 Post

00:18:34.640 on the

00:18:35.100 right

00:18:35.480 went with

00:18:36.240 White House

00:18:37.020 blasts 0.97

00:18:37.580 sick 0.89

00:18:37.820 Chicago 0.98

00:18:38.460 mayor

00:18:38.840 for

00:18:39.140 aiding

00:18:39.560 illegal

00:18:40.180 immigrant 1.00

00:18:40.640 killers 0.98

00:18:41.120 same

00:18:41.660 news

00:18:41.920 story

00:18:42.280 completely

00:18:43.040 different

00:18:43.480 takes

00:18:43.920 ground

00:18:44.580 news

00:18:44.880 compiles

00:18:45.400 these

00:18:45.600 divergent

00:18:46.180 perspectives

00:18:46.760 in one

00:18:47.420 place

00:18:47.860 another

00:18:48.380 feature

00:18:48.800 we use

00:18:49.380 heavily

00:18:49.780 at

00:18:49.960 trigonometry

00:18:50.500 is the

00:18:51.220 blind

00:18:51.540 spot

00:18:51.840 feed

00:18:52.160 which

00:18:52.600 highlights

00:18:53.120 where

00:18:53.360 coverage

00:18:53.800 is

00:18:53.980 lopsided

00:18:54.580 lets you

00:18:55.220 compare

00:18:55.560 bias across

00:18:56.280 the

00:18:56.480 political

00:18:56.800 spectrum

00:18:57.300 and

00:18:57.980 shows

00:18:58.360 what's

00:18:58.640 being

00:18:58.880 emphasized

00:18:59.340 or

00:18:59.960 ignored

00:19:00.360 if 0.83

00:19:00.780 you

00:19:00.900 care

00:19:01.200 about

00:19:01.440 getting

00:19:01.720 to

00:19:01.920 the

00:19:02.080 truth

00:19:02.360 by

00:19:02.600 seeing

00:19:02.960 things

00:19:03.240 from

00:19:03.400 all

00:19:03.580 angles

00:19:03.980 ground

00:19:04.620 news

00:19:04.940 is

00:19:05.520 essential

00:19:06.200 go to

00:19:06.920 ground.news

00:19:07.940 slash

00:19:08.360 trigonometry

00:19:08.900 and get

00:19:09.620 40%

00:19:10.360 off their

00:19:10.880 unlimited

00:19:11.300 advantage

00:19:11.820 plan

00:19:12.180 that's

00:19:12.760 the plan

00:19:13.060 we

00:19:13.260 use

00:19:13.580 that

00:19:14.000 link

00:19:14.220 again

00:19:14.500 is

00:19:14.700 ground.news

00:19:15.640 slash

00:19:16.060 trigonometry

TRIGGERnometry - October 24, 2025

Dinesh D'Souza Calls Out Tucker and Candance Owens

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