TRIGGERnometry - October 24, 2025


Dinesh D'Souza Calls Out Tucker and Candance Owens


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19 minutes

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158.37253

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3,053

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92

Misogynist Sentences

6

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14


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After Charlie Kirk was shot and killed in Portland, Oregon, on Nov. 9th, 2001, the FBI launched a massive manhunt to find out who was behind the attack and whether it was an act of political terrorism. The investigation found no evidence of any link to a specific suspect, but many have long suspected that it could have been the work of someone on the right. On this episode of the podcast, Dinesh and Joe discuss the possibility that it was actually an inside job.

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00:00:40.540 Dinesh, you mentioned Charlie Kirk a number of times
00:00:42.920 and it was obviously, you know,
00:00:45.320 it was a horrific moment for this country and for America.
00:00:48.500 But actually, just globally, I thought
00:00:50.700 it was just a horrific moment for the world
00:00:53.420 and seeing that happen to a father of two young children,
00:00:56.600 simply being killed because of his political views.
00:01:01.860 That was absolutely shocking.
00:01:05.060 And because of how shocking it was,
00:01:07.860 there was a naive part of me
00:01:09.540 that thought that this might be a reset opportunity
00:01:12.560 for everybody.
00:01:15.400 And I thought maybe the left will go,
00:01:18.760 oh no, we can't,
00:01:20.380 there are some Nazis and they have to be called out,
00:01:23.440 but we can't call center-right people Nazis.
00:01:27.200 We can't throw around labels like fascists
00:01:29.480 because I've said it on this show a number of times,
00:01:31.700 we said it on Joe Rogan yesterday.
00:01:33.500 If you keep calling someone,
00:01:34.740 if I thought the Nazis were here to invade,
00:01:36.500 I'd pick up a rifle and go to the front line.
00:01:38.320 So when you call someone a Nazi,
00:01:40.140 you are literally putting a target on their back.
00:01:42.860 And I also thought it might be a moment
00:01:45.920 in which the right might reconnect
00:01:49.020 around its core values and core ideas
00:01:52.180 and go, you know, we need to get together
00:01:55.080 and challenge all of this.
00:01:57.000 Well, what's happened is the exact opposite.
00:01:59.280 You know, the left is doubling down on all this stuff.
00:02:03.880 And on the right, you now have these very fringe voices
00:02:06.780 who are saying, you know,
00:02:09.280 a foreign country assassinated Charlie Kirk
00:02:12.620 and making up stuff about planes
00:02:14.960 that left before the assassination
00:02:16.860 that proved that it, all of this crazy stuff.
00:02:20.220 You've been quite outspoken about all of that.
00:02:23.120 Talk to us about this whole thing.
00:02:26.100 The, yeah, I think that,
00:02:30.220 look how strange it is.
00:02:32.680 You have, you had a militarization around Antifa,
00:02:36.240 which became publicly evident
00:02:39.000 over the George Floyd riots.
00:02:41.200 That's the Antifa element.
00:02:42.920 There's the BLM element,
00:02:44.460 which has somewhat subsided.
00:02:45.960 But what has taken its place
00:02:47.440 is these violent trans rings.
00:02:51.400 I'm not talking about people who are trans.
00:02:53.340 I'm talking about people who think
00:02:55.140 that the society is out to get them.
00:02:57.420 And so they go to training camps
00:02:59.360 and they talk about doing martial arts
00:03:01.860 or shooting people or fighting with weapons.
00:03:04.620 Now, again, I don't think there's a lot of reasoning
00:03:08.740 to be done with those people.
00:03:09.980 If you look at the Portland rioters,
00:03:11.580 if you look at these Antifa militants,
00:03:14.720 and if you look at these trans terrorists,
00:03:17.480 it's really important to sort of get to the bottom of it,
00:03:21.340 excavate exactly what happened.
00:03:22.920 And so there were some reports
00:03:25.140 after Charlie Kirk's assassination
00:03:26.440 that there was prior knowledge
00:03:28.200 of what was going to happen,
00:03:29.260 that there were people in chats talking about,
00:03:31.200 hey, something really big is going to happen.
00:03:33.280 Not just big happen.
00:03:34.060 It's going to happen to Charlie Kirk tomorrow
00:03:35.780 at so-and-so location.
00:03:38.180 Well, I mean, this would suggest,
00:03:39.620 if not a conspiracy,
00:03:40.640 at least prior knowledge of people
00:03:43.420 who knew that he was going to be going to be shot.
00:03:45.760 Now, just when the FBI, the authorities
00:03:51.060 are sort of moving the crackdown on all this,
00:03:54.920 along from the right comes Candace Owens
00:03:59.520 with this sort of idea that,
00:04:04.020 hey, let's take a look at these photos.
00:04:05.840 I see a pipe.
00:04:06.800 I wonder if a Mossad agent
00:04:08.020 might have crawled through the pipe.
00:04:09.700 I mean, stuff that is just absolutely crazy.
00:04:14.440 Now, again, if she were to produce
00:04:17.740 some substantial evidence,
00:04:20.740 a single reliable fact
00:04:22.720 that let's just say contravenes
00:04:25.560 the government's theory,
00:04:27.580 and she says it couldn't have been that,
00:04:30.000 because take a look at this.
00:04:32.200 But the investigative style,
00:04:34.720 although I admit it's from a certain point of view,
00:04:37.200 it's like irresistible to watch
00:04:39.240 because it's like listening
00:04:41.900 to a well-trained philosopher
00:04:45.060 who has completely lost his mind
00:04:46.740 and is now in an asylum
00:04:47.760 and is giving you crazy discourse,
00:04:50.920 but it's crazy discourse
00:04:53.140 that is embedded with witticisms
00:04:56.240 and all kinds of...
00:04:57.560 And you're like,
00:04:58.580 you can't turn away from it
00:05:00.320 from a certain point.
00:05:01.480 Candace is actually quite magnetic
00:05:02.800 in the way she presents information,
00:05:04.680 and she has a style.
00:05:08.240 It's an intellectual striptease
00:05:09.940 because she never puts her cards out
00:05:12.300 and goes, here's what I got.
00:05:13.120 She goes, okay, well, I got something.
00:05:14.920 Let me show you something.
00:05:16.280 You know, more to come tomorrow
00:05:17.620 and more to come the day after that.
00:05:20.260 It's a little deranged,
00:05:24.200 but it is...
00:05:26.740 There's something magnetic about it, right?
00:05:29.100 But look at the political effect
00:05:30.260 and how pernicious it is.
00:05:31.260 It's taking attention away
00:05:32.940 from the actual...
00:05:35.740 Not just the bad guy,
00:05:37.080 but these ideological bad actors
00:05:39.760 that are embedded in our society.
00:05:43.360 And it's basically telling everybody,
00:05:45.480 look over here.
00:05:46.280 It's the Jews or it's Israel
00:05:47.660 or it's Mossad.
00:05:49.660 Now, you'd have to ask yourself,
00:05:51.060 well, why would someone do that?
00:05:52.980 Right?
00:05:53.320 Or to look more broadly,
00:05:54.820 take the phenomenon now.
00:05:55.900 Go beyond Candace
00:05:56.760 and take the larger phenomenon.
00:05:57.940 You've got a strange
00:06:01.140 but pernicious alliance
00:06:02.560 between the cultural left
00:06:03.940 and the West
00:06:04.620 and radical Islam.
00:06:07.040 I actually wrote about this
00:06:08.500 in a book that I published
00:06:09.720 around 2006.
00:06:10.960 It was called
00:06:11.340 The Enemy at Home.
00:06:13.000 I was reacting to
00:06:14.360 Samuel Huntington's idea
00:06:16.000 that there's a clash
00:06:17.220 of civilizations
00:06:17.960 between us, the West,
00:06:19.640 and them,
00:06:20.700 meaning the House of Islam.
00:06:22.500 And my argument was,
00:06:24.160 not exactly.
00:06:25.800 There's a division
00:06:26.760 inside the West
00:06:27.680 and there's also a division
00:06:28.880 inside of Islam.
00:06:30.460 And I said,
00:06:30.980 not only that,
00:06:31.980 but the cultural left
00:06:33.280 is going to become
00:06:34.880 strange bedfellows
00:06:36.080 with the radical Muslims.
00:06:37.280 This seems fantastic
00:06:38.500 because the two groups
00:06:39.600 have utterly different
00:06:40.640 end goals.
00:06:41.860 And they cannot inhabit
00:06:43.060 each other's world.
00:06:44.540 And not only that,
00:06:45.440 but if they were
00:06:47.040 in full control,
00:06:48.160 they would come to blows.
00:06:49.640 But they are united
00:06:51.600 against a common enemy.
00:06:52.840 And who is the common enemy?
00:06:55.020 Well, it's the Jews
00:06:56.020 and Israel on the one hand,
00:06:57.920 and it's America
00:06:58.940 and the principles
00:07:00.200 of the West on the other.
00:07:01.880 So it would seem natural,
00:07:04.120 unavoidable,
00:07:05.040 that Jews and Christians,
00:07:06.680 America and Israel
00:07:07.500 should come closer together
00:07:08.700 in recognition
00:07:10.000 of this obvious,
00:07:12.680 nefarious alliance.
00:07:14.320 You know,
00:07:14.500 let's call it,
00:07:15.160 I filmed the dragons.
00:07:16.620 This is like
00:07:17.780 the devil's platoons.
00:07:19.240 All right,
00:07:19.860 well, the good people
00:07:20.560 need to come together.
00:07:21.420 So I can understand
00:07:24.220 why the left
00:07:26.180 is doing what it does
00:07:27.500 because it is
00:07:29.300 an ideological war
00:07:31.060 against the Jews
00:07:32.360 and Israel,
00:07:33.020 no less than
00:07:33.840 against Christians
00:07:34.620 on the West.
00:07:35.600 What I don't understand
00:07:36.820 is this movement
00:07:38.520 on the right
00:07:39.580 that is attempting
00:07:42.740 to sever
00:07:43.600 our connection
00:07:45.080 with Israel,
00:07:46.300 and I think
00:07:47.220 in the process
00:07:47.960 undermining Trump,
00:07:49.320 undermining MAGA,
00:07:50.240 undermining America's
00:07:51.600 national interests,
00:07:53.040 undermining the foundations
00:07:54.260 of the West,
00:07:54.940 which are Athens
00:07:55.560 and Jerusalem,
00:07:56.880 but on top of all that,
00:07:58.900 strengthening
00:07:59.640 radical Islam
00:08:01.520 and strengthening
00:08:02.740 the cultural left.
00:08:04.360 Hang on,
00:08:04.840 but you say
00:08:05.240 you don't understand.
00:08:06.380 Let me push back on that.
00:08:08.080 I think it's relatively simple
00:08:09.400 to understand, Dinesh.
00:08:10.520 How so?
00:08:10.820 If you go along
00:08:12.780 this way
00:08:14.140 of like,
00:08:15.360 the left have done this,
00:08:17.360 they've done
00:08:17.800 all these egregious things,
00:08:19.840 these tactics
00:08:20.500 to silence
00:08:21.240 and destroy,
00:08:22.260 to play identity politics,
00:08:23.920 to say if you're
00:08:24.520 white and male,
00:08:25.620 you're bottom
00:08:26.180 of the oppression pyramid,
00:08:27.620 which means
00:08:28.080 you're far less likely
00:08:29.680 to get a job,
00:08:30.560 far less likely
00:08:31.200 to progress.
00:08:31.980 It becomes socially acceptable.
00:08:33.340 Let's be honest,
00:08:34.000 to demonize you,
00:08:34.860 particularly if you're
00:08:35.600 blue-collar
00:08:36.180 and white and male,
00:08:37.900 you automatically
00:08:38.660 become thick,
00:08:39.420 stupid,
00:08:39.680 and racist,
00:08:41.500 then why wouldn't
00:08:43.180 you start to tribalize?
00:08:45.060 Why wouldn't
00:08:45.880 you become conspiratorial?
00:08:47.940 Why wouldn't
00:08:48.680 you go out
00:08:49.400 and attack the people
00:08:50.600 that you think
00:08:51.440 have done you wrong?
00:08:53.880 Absolutely right.
00:08:55.200 So I do not blame
00:08:57.460 the fractured,
00:09:00.540 dislocated,
00:09:02.180 angry young people
00:09:03.860 who are responding
00:09:04.860 in just the way
00:09:05.580 that you say.
00:09:06.580 I know why
00:09:07.560 they're doing that.
00:09:08.280 but I do blame
00:09:11.460 the Pied Pipers
00:09:12.720 who are leading them
00:09:14.240 to the precipice
00:09:15.240 who should know better,
00:09:16.800 right?
00:09:18.060 Let me try a few
00:09:19.020 other theories on you
00:09:19.840 because I don't think
00:09:20.620 the explanation
00:09:21.180 Francis gives
00:09:21.880 is fully here
00:09:23.100 because what it doesn't
00:09:23.960 really explain
00:09:24.600 is why there are
00:09:26.300 certain people now
00:09:27.120 absolutely obsessed
00:09:28.220 with the Jews.
00:09:29.400 Why are they obsessed
00:09:30.260 with Israel?
00:09:30.880 Because it's not
00:09:31.660 Israel or the Jews
00:09:32.960 that caused
00:09:34.000 the cultural disintegration
00:09:35.380 that you're talking about.
00:09:36.320 They didn't take over
00:09:37.340 college campuses
00:09:38.140 40 years ago
00:09:39.480 and introduced
00:09:39.980 all this anti-Western crap.
00:09:42.960 I think
00:09:43.760 there's a few things
00:09:45.180 going on
00:09:45.880 that I think
00:09:47.120 are contributing as well.
00:09:49.160 One of them is
00:09:50.000 I wrote an article
00:09:51.020 when Tucker Carlson
00:09:54.040 went to Russia
00:09:54.860 and interviewed
00:09:55.280 President Putin
00:09:56.100 which was called
00:09:56.980 Tucker Carlson
00:09:57.720 and the Woke Right
00:09:58.420 in which I basically said
00:09:59.460 that there is
00:10:00.300 these sections
00:10:00.760 on the right
00:10:01.280 that have become
00:10:01.840 very focused
00:10:02.900 on victimhood
00:10:03.640 and are replicating
00:10:06.260 some of the things
00:10:07.020 we saw on the left
00:10:07.760 in doing so
00:10:08.560 and when you're
00:10:09.500 focused on victimhood
00:10:10.480 you have to find
00:10:11.280 someone who's
00:10:11.860 victimizing you
00:10:12.840 and at that point
00:10:14.320 Jews and Israel
00:10:15.740 were not the thing
00:10:16.660 and I said
00:10:17.480 you know
00:10:18.160 for now
00:10:19.260 the label is
00:10:19.940 globalists
00:10:20.720 and those sections
00:10:23.120 of the right
00:10:23.460 keep talking about
00:10:24.380 globalists
00:10:24.940 but a globalist
00:10:25.840 isn't something
00:10:26.560 that you can visualize
00:10:27.580 no one has
00:10:28.740 like when I say
00:10:29.580 globalist
00:10:30.020 you don't
00:10:30.340 picture a person
00:10:31.580 doesn't come
00:10:32.080 into your head
00:10:32.640 so they were
00:10:33.420 looking for somebody
00:10:34.400 to be the
00:10:35.480 the scapegoat
00:10:36.760 the explanation
00:10:38.120 that explains
00:10:39.040 everything
00:10:39.420 like the left
00:10:40.260 explanation of
00:10:41.180 well everything
00:10:42.080 is because of
00:10:42.720 white supremacy
00:10:43.360 everything is because
00:10:44.660 of institutional racism
00:10:45.860 everything is because
00:10:46.840 of straight white men
00:10:48.360 saying that's one thing
00:10:50.120 the other thing is
00:10:51.380 once President Trump
00:10:53.980 gets elected
00:10:54.520 for a second term
00:10:55.500 in the overwhelming
00:10:56.460 fashion in which
00:10:57.360 that happens
00:10:58.060 what does the media
00:11:00.640 do
00:11:01.520 whose entire
00:11:02.480 new media
00:11:03.320 in particular
00:11:03.780 whose entire
00:11:04.380 identity
00:11:04.880 became
00:11:05.560 you know
00:11:06.520 it was the
00:11:07.040 anti-woke coalition
00:11:08.300 of which
00:11:08.980 trigonometry
00:11:09.540 was 100%
00:11:10.340 a part of
00:11:11.160 but once
00:11:12.120 that collapses
00:11:13.380 like we don't
00:11:14.060 really talk about
00:11:14.760 wokeness very much
00:11:15.660 anymore on the show
00:11:16.400 because it's kind
00:11:17.440 of I mean
00:11:18.220 I think it's
00:11:19.040 overstating the case
00:11:20.060 to say it's over
00:11:21.040 but it's not
00:11:22.480 the live issue
00:11:23.360 right now
00:11:24.200 right
00:11:24.960 we don't talk
00:11:25.820 about trans issues
00:11:26.760 which we used to
00:11:27.500 talk about
00:11:27.820 because it's not
00:11:28.400 the live issue
00:11:29.240 right now
00:11:29.800 so if you
00:11:32.140 are in a
00:11:33.300 right of center
00:11:34.140 media
00:11:34.840 personal channel
00:11:36.620 organization
00:11:37.360 you can either
00:11:39.060 keep beating
00:11:39.980 you know
00:11:40.440 you know that meme
00:11:41.140 of stop stop
00:11:41.820 he's already dead
00:11:42.680 right
00:11:43.440 that's not going
00:11:44.300 to get you any views
00:11:45.020 because beating up
00:11:45.760 on the democrats
00:11:46.500 I mean
00:11:47.040 don't even know
00:11:48.320 where they are
00:11:48.780 anymore right
00:11:49.340 so you have to go
00:11:51.700 the incentive structure
00:11:52.960 is to go in a more
00:11:54.400 conspiratorial
00:11:55.720 out there
00:11:56.700 direction
00:11:57.140 those are my two
00:11:57.900 other bits
00:11:58.500 that I'd put
00:11:59.160 to you
00:11:59.600 yeah
00:12:00.060 I have a bunch
00:12:00.860 little things
00:12:01.660 to add to that
00:12:02.420 so the first one
00:12:03.360 is that
00:12:04.400 the
00:12:06.520 in the Reagan era
00:12:09.040 in conservatism
00:12:10.700 there was a certain
00:12:11.840 I would call it
00:12:13.260 the intellectual
00:12:13.880 guardians
00:12:14.600 of the tribe
00:12:16.200 people like
00:12:17.380 William F. Buckley
00:12:18.660 Reagan to a certain
00:12:20.460 degree
00:12:20.760 but there were
00:12:21.180 others
00:12:21.480 Irving Kristol
00:12:22.280 and the idea
00:12:23.920 here was that
00:12:25.200 if you came in
00:12:27.260 with like
00:12:27.780 the poison
00:12:28.460 of anti-Semitism
00:12:30.360 blatant racism
00:12:31.880 you know
00:12:32.820 criticism of
00:12:33.460 affirmative action
00:12:34.240 yes
00:12:34.920 calling blacks
00:12:36.900 monkeys
00:12:37.320 no
00:12:37.880 so if you did
00:12:40.100 that
00:12:40.460 you were basically
00:12:41.360 asked to leave
00:12:43.460 the room
00:12:43.820 and you were
00:12:45.480 abolished
00:12:46.100 from the
00:12:47.100 you wouldn't be
00:12:48.180 invited to
00:12:48.680 conservative conferences
00:12:49.620 you certainly
00:12:50.140 wouldn't be a speaker
00:12:50.860 it would basically
00:12:52.240 be the end of you
00:12:53.060 as a public figure
00:12:54.360 so that's gone
00:12:56.420 and it's gone
00:12:57.780 why
00:12:58.100 partly because
00:12:59.040 we don't have
00:13:00.240 a conservative
00:13:01.140 intellectual class
00:13:02.660 that performs
00:13:04.240 that task
00:13:04.980 and why don't
00:13:06.660 we have that
00:13:07.300 well partly
00:13:08.340 because the
00:13:08.920 mainstream of
00:13:09.680 that class
00:13:10.460 went never
00:13:11.300 Trump
00:13:11.700 and so
00:13:13.160 when I look
00:13:14.400 around for
00:13:15.380 like if I were
00:13:16.260 to make a list
00:13:17.020 of let's say
00:13:17.800 30 of my
00:13:18.700 colleagues
00:13:19.300 from
00:13:20.400 the Reagan
00:13:21.540 days
00:13:22.080 I would say
00:13:23.160 that
00:13:23.620 probably
00:13:25.100 about 25
00:13:25.920 of them
00:13:26.520 went anti-Trump
00:13:27.600 and they went
00:13:28.340 to anti-Trump
00:13:29.020 in different places
00:13:29.880 John Bolton
00:13:30.540 is a little
00:13:30.920 different place
00:13:31.400 than say
00:13:31.660 Bill Kristol
00:13:32.460 but nevertheless
00:13:33.520 they're by and large
00:13:35.180 excluded from
00:13:36.540 MAGA
00:13:37.080 and what happened
00:13:38.640 is partly
00:13:39.140 as a result
00:13:39.660 of a cultural
00:13:40.300 shift
00:13:40.720 MAGA produces
00:13:41.720 a new type
00:13:42.700 of
00:13:43.260 a new type
00:13:45.840 of pundit
00:13:46.580 who is not
00:13:48.580 I mean
00:13:49.320 think of
00:13:49.800 the distance
00:13:50.260 between say
00:13:51.120 Irving Kristol
00:13:52.200 and Tucker Carlson
00:13:53.200 Tucker
00:13:55.300 doesn't even
00:13:57.520 purport to be
00:13:58.580 knowledgeable
00:13:59.180 about anything
00:14:00.100 right
00:14:01.040 so as a result
00:14:02.400 what Tucker
00:14:02.900 says is
00:14:03.760 I will develop
00:14:04.760 a ventriloquist
00:14:06.180 style
00:14:06.640 I have strong
00:14:07.420 opinions
00:14:07.860 but I don't
00:14:08.760 want to defend
00:14:09.300 any of them
00:14:09.900 so I will
00:14:11.420 set up a structure
00:14:12.420 in which I
00:14:13.100 bring in
00:14:14.060 sources
00:14:14.720 often rather
00:14:15.880 dubious sources
00:14:16.640 people you've
00:14:17.040 never heard of
00:14:17.820 you know
00:14:18.560 the nun
00:14:18.900 with the mustache
00:14:19.580 some disgraced
00:14:20.740 academic
00:14:21.220 and what I'll
00:14:22.120 do is
00:14:22.500 I will ask
00:14:23.520 sort of
00:14:23.980 leading questions
00:14:25.080 that
00:14:26.040 in which is
00:14:27.300 embedded
00:14:27.760 an answer
00:14:28.640 my answer
00:14:30.000 but framed
00:14:31.320 as a question
00:14:32.080 you then
00:14:33.200 will
00:14:33.860 blurt out
00:14:35.520 the obvious
00:14:36.380 implications
00:14:36.980 of the question
00:14:37.760 giving me
00:14:38.600 the answer
00:14:39.120 I expected
00:14:39.680 but I will
00:14:40.240 pretend to be
00:14:40.920 thunderstruck
00:14:41.660 by it
00:14:42.220 it's an epiphany
00:14:43.320 it's a new
00:14:43.860 revelation
00:14:44.480 people have been
00:14:45.620 suppressing this
00:14:46.320 kind of thinking
00:14:46.820 for decades
00:14:47.540 so this is
00:14:48.720 a shtick
00:14:49.400 it's a different
00:14:50.960 shtick than
00:14:51.540 Candace
00:14:51.920 Candace's shtick
00:14:52.760 is the Candace
00:14:53.760 intelligence agency
00:14:54.820 I'm like the
00:14:56.080 world's greatest
00:14:56.580 detective
00:14:57.080 you know I'm
00:14:57.920 the pink panther
00:14:58.600 of my time
00:14:59.240 I'm deputizing
00:15:00.360 all my viewers
00:15:01.300 also to be
00:15:02.120 detectives
00:15:02.720 feed me
00:15:03.420 information
00:15:04.020 we're going
00:15:04.400 to crack
00:15:04.720 the case
00:15:05.240 there's a
00:15:06.360 so to me
00:15:07.340 this is like
00:15:08.000 an intellectual
00:15:09.280 embarrassment
00:15:10.100 because all
00:15:11.800 my life
00:15:12.220 I've been
00:15:12.540 an iconoclast
00:15:13.360 I will take
00:15:14.440 on ideas
00:15:15.320 and I will
00:15:15.960 try to
00:15:16.380 dismantle
00:15:16.920 them
00:15:17.180 but not
00:15:18.220 in this
00:15:18.580 way
00:15:18.920 my ideas
00:15:19.520 are things
00:15:19.900 like this
00:15:20.440 the
00:15:20.820 you know
00:15:21.620 the
00:15:21.960 dixiecrats
00:15:22.740 all became
00:15:23.600 republicans
00:15:24.440 and my
00:15:25.340 strategy of
00:15:25.940 challenging that
00:15:26.620 is I go
00:15:27.240 make an
00:15:27.580 inventory of
00:15:28.240 the 200
00:15:28.700 dixiecrats
00:15:29.420 I put them
00:15:29.920 up on a
00:15:30.300 movie screen
00:15:30.880 and I say
00:15:31.260 all right
00:15:31.500 I'm now
00:15:31.860 going to
00:15:32.100 show you
00:15:32.620 through a
00:15:33.780 movement of
00:15:34.180 the mouse
00:15:34.640 which of
00:15:35.580 these 200
00:15:36.240 dixiecrats
00:15:36.960 became
00:15:37.260 republicans
00:15:37.820 answer
00:15:38.220 two
00:15:38.600 so did
00:15:40.220 the dixiecrats
00:15:41.000 as a group
00:15:41.400 become republicans
00:15:42.340 no there's
00:15:43.300 the empirical
00:15:43.720 evidence right
00:15:44.380 there on the
00:15:44.780 screen you
00:15:45.140 can check
00:15:45.440 it out
00:15:45.720 you know
00:15:46.220 for yourself
00:15:46.720 so so
00:15:48.100 when I see
00:15:48.660 this almost
00:15:49.680 parody of
00:15:51.180 investigation
00:15:52.380 parody of
00:15:53.280 scholarship
00:15:53.840 it's very
00:15:55.640 unnerving
00:15:56.380 now for
00:15:58.440 young people
00:15:59.380 just as
00:16:00.360 you said
00:16:01.080 there is
00:16:03.260 a susceptibility
00:16:04.200 to all this
00:16:05.020 and and
00:16:07.300 and also
00:16:08.260 there's no
00:16:08.820 easy check
00:16:09.660 on it
00:16:10.060 like for
00:16:10.460 example right
00:16:11.060 now I'm
00:16:11.460 in these
00:16:12.120 big debates
00:16:12.800 about
00:16:13.200 christian
00:16:13.840 theology
00:16:14.380 but I'm
00:16:14.900 debating
00:16:15.500 christian
00:16:15.960 theology
00:16:16.360 with people
00:16:17.000 who have
00:16:17.860 like listened
00:16:18.420 to two
00:16:18.900 podcasts
00:16:19.540 right
00:16:20.200 I've written
00:16:20.560 three books
00:16:21.080 on christian
00:16:21.580 apologetics
00:16:22.260 I've thought
00:16:23.000 about this
00:16:23.340 stuff for
00:16:23.640 30 years
00:16:24.280 but it's
00:16:25.840 difficult to
00:16:26.660 address people
00:16:27.380 who say
00:16:27.760 things like
00:16:28.200 Dinesh
00:16:28.600 open a bible
00:16:29.380 once in a
00:16:29.940 while you
00:16:30.400 might learn
00:16:30.820 something
00:16:31.280 I'm like
00:16:32.560 are you
00:16:32.880 serious
00:16:33.380 so
00:16:35.040 but but
00:16:36.880 our culture
00:16:37.520 has had that
00:16:38.220 leveling effect
00:16:39.140 this guy
00:16:40.020 who's
00:16:40.480 watched two
00:16:41.440 podcasts
00:16:41.920 on an
00:16:42.420 even
00:16:42.760 playing field
00:16:43.720 with me
00:16:44.220 now this
00:16:44.720 would not
00:16:45.000 have been
00:16:45.180 the case
00:16:45.540 in the
00:16:45.780 Reagan years
00:16:46.240 because that
00:16:46.680 guy would
00:16:47.320 not even
00:16:47.740 be that
00:16:48.920 guy would
00:16:49.240 not be
00:16:49.580 speaking at
00:16:50.020 a conference
00:16:50.500 at AEI
00:16:51.160 so there
00:16:51.580 was a
00:16:52.180 there was
00:16:52.800 a filtering
00:16:53.360 structure
00:16:53.920 that is
00:16:54.500 now
00:16:54.940 gone
00:16:55.560 and look
00:16:56.100 there's
00:16:56.440 good things
00:16:57.180 about that
00:16:57.580 well that's
00:16:58.000 right
00:16:58.120 I was gonna
00:16:58.820 say that
00:16:59.320 and I know
00:17:00.640 you've tried
00:17:01.880 to debate
00:17:02.460 this is one
00:17:03.280 of the other
00:17:03.620 things that I
00:17:04.120 do find
00:17:04.520 strange
00:17:04.920 because with
00:17:05.820 some notable
00:17:06.500 exceptions
00:17:07.100 quite a lot
00:17:08.260 of these
00:17:08.540 people don't
00:17:09.780 engage in
00:17:11.500 what used
00:17:12.200 to happen
00:17:12.660 which is
00:17:13.100 you come
00:17:13.460 together
00:17:13.860 and you
00:17:14.880 have these
00:17:15.480 debates
00:17:16.040 and discussions
00:17:16.800 but now
00:17:17.860 I think the
00:17:18.500 economic
00:17:18.860 incentives aren't
00:17:19.760 there you
00:17:20.040 don't need
00:17:20.540 to do
00:17:20.880 that
00:17:21.120 like if
00:17:21.540 you're
00:17:21.780 Candace
00:17:22.340 you just
00:17:23.500 do your
00:17:23.840 show
00:17:24.100 and you
00:17:24.460 make millions
00:17:25.080 of dollars
00:17:25.620 talking about
00:17:26.360 how you
00:17:26.820 someone you
00:17:27.480 used to
00:17:27.740 call your
00:17:28.080 friend
00:17:28.480 denigrating
00:17:29.180 his legacy
00:17:29.720 in my
00:17:30.080 opinion
00:17:30.380 and all
00:17:30.780 of that
00:17:31.180 but but
00:17:32.060 you don't
00:17:32.300 need to
00:17:32.560 go and
00:17:32.820 engage
00:17:33.100 in a
00:17:33.340 debate
00:17:33.520 there's
00:17:33.680 nothing
00:17:33.880 to gain
00:17:34.440 really
00:17:34.840 right
00:17:35.560 and so
00:17:36.300 everything
00:17:37.380 gets
00:17:37.680 siloed
00:17:38.240 something
00:17:39.340 we've
00:17:39.800 learned
00:17:40.060 doing
00:17:40.360 this
00:17:40.640 show
00:17:40.920 is that
00:17:41.540 people's
00:17:42.000 thoughts
00:17:42.260 about a
00:17:42.620 given
00:17:42.820 issue
00:17:43.120 often
00:17:43.440 depend
00:17:43.880 on
00:17:44.060 where
00:17:44.240 they
00:17:44.400 get
00:17:44.620 their
00:17:44.820 news
00:17:45.160 that's
00:17:45.960 why
00:17:46.140 we
00:17:46.500 use
00:17:46.860 ground
00:17:47.200 news
00:17:47.440 to see
00:17:47.820 how
00:17:47.980 the
00:17:48.140 same
00:17:48.400 story
00:17:48.800 is
00:17:49.000 reported
00:17:49.440 across
00:17:49.920 the
00:17:50.120 political
00:17:50.460 spectrum
00:17:50.980 for example
00:17:51.760 take the
00:17:52.240 story about
00:17:52.720 Chicago
00:17:53.240 mayor
00:17:53.640 Brandon
00:17:54.180 Johnson
00:17:54.680 signing
00:17:55.140 an
00:17:55.340 executive
00:17:55.820 order
00:17:56.300 creating
00:17:56.820 so-called
00:17:57.600 ice-free
00:17:58.520 zones
00:17:59.120 follow along
00:18:00.060 at
00:18:00.360 ground
00:18:00.680 dot
00:18:01.000 news
00:18:01.320 slash
00:18:01.680 trigonometry
00:18:02.340 using
00:18:03.060 ground
00:18:03.520 news
00:18:03.860 straight away
00:18:04.660 we can
00:18:05.020 quickly see
00:18:05.820 that the
00:18:06.120 story is
00:18:06.540 being covered
00:18:07.020 by sources
00:18:07.940 across the
00:18:08.580 board
00:18:08.860 but with
00:18:09.560 more coverage
00:18:10.240 from outlets
00:18:10.820 on the
00:18:11.180 right
00:18:11.560 scrolling
00:18:12.460 down the
00:18:12.920 page
00:18:13.260 ground
00:18:13.680 news
00:18:13.960 allows us
00:18:14.520 to easily
00:18:15.200 compare
00:18:15.660 the headlines
00:18:16.280 we can
00:18:17.060 see the
00:18:17.420 Chicago
00:18:17.860 Sun
00:18:18.300 Times
00:18:18.820 which is
00:18:19.520 on the
00:18:19.760 left
00:18:20.040 focused
00:18:20.600 on the
00:18:21.100 city's
00:18:21.520 decision
00:18:21.900 to declare
00:18:22.540 municipal
00:18:23.560 buildings
00:18:24.160 ice-free
00:18:24.860 meanwhile
00:18:25.580 the
00:18:25.920 Hill
00:18:26.160 a centrist
00:18:26.960 newspaper
00:18:27.500 simply stated
00:18:28.780 that Chicago's
00:18:29.700 mayor
00:18:29.900 signs
00:18:30.540 ice-free
00:18:31.480 zone
00:18:31.940 executive
00:18:32.600 order
00:18:33.020 but the
00:18:33.700 New York
00:18:34.240 Post
00:18:34.640 on the
00:18:35.100 right
00:18:35.480 went with
00:18:36.240 White House
00:18:37.020 blasts
00:18:37.580 sick
00:18:37.820 Chicago
00:18:38.460 mayor
00:18:38.840 for
00:18:39.140 aiding
00:18:39.560 illegal
00:18:40.180 immigrant
00:18:40.640 killers
00:18:41.120 same
00:18:41.660 news
00:18:41.920 story
00:18:42.280 completely
00:18:43.040 different
00:18:43.480 takes
00:18:43.920 ground
00:18:44.580 news
00:18:44.880 compiles
00:18:45.400 these
00:18:45.600 divergent
00:18:46.180 perspectives
00:18:46.760 in one
00:18:47.420 place
00:18:47.860 another
00:18:48.380 feature
00:18:48.800 we use
00:18:49.380 heavily
00:18:49.780 at
00:18:49.960 trigonometry
00:18:50.500 is the
00:18:51.220 blind
00:18:51.540 spot
00:18:51.840 feed
00:18:52.160 which
00:18:52.600 highlights
00:18:53.120 where
00:18:53.360 coverage
00:18:53.800 is
00:18:53.980 lopsided
00:18:54.580 lets you
00:18:55.220 compare
00:18:55.560 bias across
00:18:56.280 the
00:18:56.480 political
00:18:56.800 spectrum
00:18:57.300 and
00:18:57.980 shows
00:18:58.360 what's
00:18:58.640 being
00:18:58.880 emphasized
00:18:59.340 or
00:18:59.960 ignored
00:19:00.360 if
00:19:00.780 you
00:19:00.900 care
00:19:01.200 about
00:19:01.440 getting
00:19:01.720 to
00:19:01.920 the
00:19:02.080 truth
00:19:02.360 by
00:19:02.600 seeing
00:19:02.960 things
00:19:03.240 from
00:19:03.400 all
00:19:03.580 angles
00:19:03.980 ground
00:19:04.620 news
00:19:04.940 is
00:19:05.520 essential
00:19:06.200 go to
00:19:06.920 ground.news
00:19:07.940 slash
00:19:08.360 trigonometry
00:19:08.900 and get
00:19:09.620 40%
00:19:10.360 off their
00:19:10.880 unlimited
00:19:11.300 advantage
00:19:11.820 plan
00:19:12.180 that's
00:19:12.760 the plan
00:19:13.060 we
00:19:13.260 use
00:19:13.580 that
00:19:14.000 link
00:19:14.220 again
00:19:14.500 is
00:19:14.700 ground.news
00:19:15.640 slash
00:19:16.060 trigonometry