Don’t Die Before Your Time - Longevity Expert Gary Brecka
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In this episode, Garrett Brecker, CEO of Dana White, joins me to talk about his journey from a life insurance executive to the CEO of one of the most successful companies in the world, Dana White. We talk about how Dana White came to be and why you should be doing the same.
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You're the guy single-handedly responsible for transforming Dana White.
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We built a system of crisis medicine, not a healthcare system, and we have been led to
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believe that this is the system that's going to bring us to a state of optimal health. It's not.
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It's for crisis intervention. You want to see magic things happen in your body. Test for what
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it's deficient in and then just give it the raw material it needs to do its job. You'll be shocked
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how well it performs. So first, let me tell you four things that you can do that are absolutely free.
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Garrett Brecker, so much to talk with you about. I mean, you're the guy
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single-handedly responsible for transforming Dana White. We'll talk about that. But first,
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I want to talk a little bit about the background that brings you to where you are because one of
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the things you used to do, fascinatingly, is predict how long people are going to live and
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when they're going to die. Can you talk to us about that a little bit?
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Sure. I was a mortality expert for large life insurance companies and large life
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insurance policies. And what this meant was we know that everybody is on an actuarial curve.
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Both of you are on one. I'm on one. Everybody listening to this podcast is on one. If you're
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a 34-year-old male, you have a life expectancy of X. If you're a 25-year-old female, you have a life
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expectancy of Y. But the truth is that when an insurance company is getting ready to put
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specific risk on your life, $10 million, $20 million, $50 million worth of life insurance
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on a single life, only one thing matters. And that's how many more months does that person
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have left on Earth? And interestingly, insurance companies have data that no other financial
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services enterprise has. The federal government doesn't have it. Universities and research foundations
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don't have it. And that is that they know the day, the date, the time, the location,
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and the cause of death for hundreds of millions of lives. And when you know that specific piece
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of information, you can pull it back into that person's records. Don't forget they also have
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medical records on these people. They have blood work. They have some type of gene testing.
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They have all of their medical history. They have a blood test that they've done on their own.
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And so we take that data and we create pathways to predict how soon someone is going to die. And
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these predictions were done, you know, to the month. And I get a lot of flack about it, but the truth is,
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it's some of the most accurate science in the world. You know, I've said many times that the database
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that I had access to, if that database could ever see the light of day, it would permanently change the
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face of humanity. I mean, it would upend modern medicine in a way that would be catastrophic,
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because we know the trajectory of these chemicals and synthetics and pharmaceuticals. We know what
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happens when people are just missing the basics in nutrition and supplementation. And we can
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accurately predict not only the onset of, but the severity of, and how quickly somebody will succumb to
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disease or pathology. And, you know, if you want to know how accurate they are doing this,
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just look at what happened during the 2008 and 2009, you know, financial services crisis.
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We had 364 banks fail. You didn't have a single life insurance company fail. Not one. In fact,
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when the credit services division, derivatives division of AIG, one of the largest life insurance
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companies in the world, went south and almost took the entire company over, it was the life division
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that bailed them out. A valid death claim in the United States has never failed to have been paid.
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Not once. There's not one valid death claim ever issued on a life that's failed to have been paid.
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There's some of the most solvent institutions in the world. And this is because they're very
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good at what they do, right? No other financial services enterprise would take that level of risk
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on a single variable. There's no venture capital fund, no angel investor, you know, no hedge fund,
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um, no mutual fund that would take that level of risk on, on just one single variable. So they really
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have honed in the science. And, you know, what was astounding about being in that career was that,
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um, you know, as I started to spend more and more time in that career, I realized a number of things.
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Uh, number one, that there were, uh, it wasn't just data, right? There were human beings on the
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other side of these spreadsheets. Um, and even though you get brainwashed into being told that,
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hey, you have nothing to do with this case, you're not responsible for getting this person
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into this condition. You're not responsible for getting them out of this condition.
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At the end of the day, it became very hard to separate myself from the fact that there was a human
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being, you know, on the other side of the spreadsheet. And had I just been able to pick up the phone and
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call them, um, I could have materially changed the trajectory of their life. Um, I was precluded by
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law from doing that. Even if I saw life-threatening drug interactions, I could not pick up the phone
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and mourn the patient. I couldn't even pick up the phone and tell the treating physician.
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And when you're looking at this voluminous amount of data, so my, my job was to basically
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read medical records for, for 20 years and to extract from the medical record the pertinent
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information needed to predict life expectancy. And when you're reading that voluminous amount
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of medical records, you start to see patterns. Um, you see that the, the reason why most people
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are not living healthier, happier, longer, more fulfilling lives are because of what we call
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modifiable risk factors. You know, things that people could change in their life, most of them quite
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easily. They had to do with basics of activity, basics of nutrition, understanding the human
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biome, the fix in, you know, anemias, vitamin D3 deficiencies, simple nutrient deficiencies
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that these people had that were dramatically reducing their quality of life. And that's why
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you'll hear me say, you know, every chance that I get that, um, I have two sayings. One is that the
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presence of oxygen is the absence of disease. Um, because we did not study a single disease
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etiological pathway, not one that did not have its roots in a lack of oxygen or was not exacerbated by
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a lack of oxygen. Everything from autoimmune diseases to Alzheimer's, to dementia, um, to ADD,
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ADHD, OCD, manic depression, bipolar, all kinds of conditions, type two diabetes. And, and the second
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was that human beings are not as sick as we think we are. We don't have pandemics of mental illness
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and pandemics of, um, uh, you know, in genetically inherited disease. We have a pandemic of missing
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raw material in the human body. We have nutrient deficiencies that are leading to the expression
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of disease in most cases. You know, when you deprive the human body of certain raw materials,
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I mean, pick one vitamin D3, for example, you get the expression of what happens when you deploy that
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nutrient, right? So compromised immune system. We know D3, for example, was, uh, the second leading
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cause of morbidity and COVID, um, deficiency in D3 is why COVID disproportionately affected minorities,
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not because their minority status, but because of the pigment of their skin, which actually drove
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their D3 levels down even lower. And, and so if, if we would go back to the basics, put our faith back
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in humanity, back in mankind, back in what God gave us and give the body the raw material it needs to heal
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itself, you would see magic things happen in this world.
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Gary, I want to get back to that in a second, but first I'm just so fascinated by this idea of being
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able to accurately predict, uh, people's life expectancy on an individual level. Uh, particularly,
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you know, I think I'm pretty sure I have life insurance and, and the, the information you'd get
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about me would be like my age, uh, my sex, the fact that I broke my arm playing basketball a few years
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ago. And that's sort of probably about it. How on earth can you predict how long I'm going to live
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based on things as basic as that? So I've, I've worked in the jumbo life division. You're not
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going to get a life insurance policy over $5 million of face value without them sending a nurse out to
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your house and doing a blood draw without them getting all of your demographic information, your
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trust, um, you know, your trust wills, your divorce decree. If you were divorced, um, your banking
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information, your, um, all of your health records as far back as they can go, usually five to 10 years.
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And, and then a specific blood test before the policy is incepted. So you can go online and get
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a term policy for a million dollars and, and submit some basic information. That wasn't the life
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insurance division I worked in. I worked in the division of, um, uh, whole life and universal life
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policies. These are policies that are meant to be carried all the way to term. Um, not like a term
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life insurance policy, 98% of term policies, never pay a death claim. Only 2% of term policies
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actually result in the death claim. So you could go on right now to any number of websites and say,
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I need a hundred thousand dollar 10 year term life policy. And they're not going to send a nurse to
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your house. And they're not going to do an, uh, a deep dive into your, um, medical records because
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they know there's a 98% chance that that term policy will lapse because at the end of that five
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year or 10 year or 20 year term, that policy goes to zero. It's usually meant to cover the breadwinner
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during the, um, during the formative years, maybe, you know, um, maybe a mother or father,
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that's the working one and the other one's home with the kids. And if you lost that income,
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it would be catastrophic and it needs to be replaced. But 15, 20 years down the road,
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that insurance policy is no longer needed. When you talk about big whole life, big universal life
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policies, 5 million, 10 million, 25 million, 50 million in face value, which is a lot more common
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than you think. Um, and these are the policies where they are predicting, um, life expectancy to
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the month and they're, or using a third party life expectancy company. And they're very accurate
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with the data and the medical. That makes sense. So what are some of the like key takeaways that,
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that you would be looking for? What is the thing that you'd be like? Oh, that's definitely
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telling me some really useful information that I'm looking for this. This is going to have a
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material impact. Like what are some of the basics? Um, so a lot of the basics were medical misdiagnosis,
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um, um, chronic conditions that were left untreated. So for example, we would see over and over and
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over again, we know, for example, from a night, uh, from a, uh, 2016 Harvard university study,
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and then a repeated study by Johns Hopkins in 2019, that medical error is the third leading cause of death.
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Wow. So the number one killer of human beings worldwide is cardiovascular disease. The number
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two killer is cancer. The number three killer is modern medicine. It's a medical error. You're
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welcome to look that study up. Um, the 2016 study pegged it as the third leading cause of death. The
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2019 study, it got worse. So they published the 2016 study and buried the 2019 study. Um, but you know,
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take for example, uh, a common thing that I would see in the medical record. Somebody comes in with a
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long-term clinical deficiency in vitamin D3, the sunshine vitamin, which, which I would argue
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is the single most important nutrient in the human body, right? It's the only vitamin that a human
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being makes on our own. Um, there's scantily a single cell in the entire human body that lacks
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a receptor for this nutrient. It acts like a hormone. Sometimes it acts like a vitamin.
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We make it from sunlight and cholesterol. Um, I mean, just, just think for a second,
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if the human body only makes a single vitamin out of the hundreds of vitamins in your bloodstream,
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how important should that, do you think that nutrient is to human function? Well,
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50% of the world is clinically deficient in this nutrient. Um, 85% of dark complected populations,
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African-Americans, Latinos, Middle Eastern populations are clinically deficient in this
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nutrient. And very often when you deplete vitamin D3, cholecalciferol, simple nutrient,
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the human body, you get the expression of other conditions. And I can't even tell you how many
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times more times than I could count. Um, a patient with a long-term clinical deficiency and vitamin D3
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would go into their primary care physician and say, listen, doc, I, I wake up sore and achy in the
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morning. Like, like I've had a workout the night before when I haven't, the soles of my feet, my ankles
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are sore when I get out of bed to walk to the bathroom first thing in the morning. You know, now my hips and
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my knees hurt. And lately it's, it's actually hard to make a really tight fist. And the, and, uh,
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the primary care doc goes, um, because of the parallel of that symptoms to something called
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rheumatoid arthritis, primary care doc goes, you know, you've got rheumatoid arthritis. I'm going
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to hit you with some high dose prednisone. You're going to feel a lot better. And then I'm going to
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put you on something called a corticosteroid. And this is just an oral capsule. You're going to take
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it every day and your joints aren't going to ache. And the truth is that, um, once you started
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corticosteroids, we knew in the mortality space from decades of research that you had six years
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and one day until you were having a joint replacement. It was so accurate that I would,
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if you were a 60 year old female misdiagnosed with rheumatoid and you started corticosteroids,
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I would artificially advance your age six years and one day. And I would begin to reduce what's
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called your ambulatory profile, how well you move, how well you ambulate. And we know now that sitting
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is the new smoking, right? Sedentary lifestyle is the leading cause of all cause mortality,
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right? So the more sedentary we become, the faster we're going to die. And I can give you the root
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cause of that. But, um, you know, we, we, we, we just don't move much anymore. And so, and this is why
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I also say that aging is the aggressive pursuit of comfort. I mean, we, we so aggressively pursue
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comfort that we accelerate our aging, right? We have to stop telling grandma not to go outside. It's too hot.
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Not to go outside. It's too cold just to lay down, just to relax, to eat at the very first
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pang of hunger. This is collapsing all of our natural defense mechanisms. But if we go back to
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this D3 deficiency and, um, you advance their age six years in one day, you schedule the joint
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replacement. You start to reduce the way that this patient ambulates, how mobile they are.
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And now once I reduce ambulation, I can bring in all of the diseases that exacerbate with reduced
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mobility, right? All of the cardiovascular conditions that exacerbate all the muscle
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atrophy, something called sarcopenia, which is age related muscle wasting. And I can accelerate
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your decline and I can bring diseases forward from your future into your present, most likely
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that you never would have had. So if you rewind this scenario, you were diagnosed with a condition
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that you did not have. You were put on a medication that you did not need, which caused you to have
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a joint replacement that wasn't required, which reduced your mobility unnecessarily and brought
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diseases from your future into your present. You died from a condition you never should have had
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because you were diagnosed with a disease that you didn't have, put on a medication that wasn't
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required and had a surgery that was unnecessary. And this happens way more often than you think.
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And as soon as we would see that, we call these anchor diagnosis, because as soon as you are
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diagnosed with a disease or a condition, rheumatoid, manic depression, bipolar, ADD,
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ADHD, type two diabetes, a high blood pressure, hypothyroid, as soon as you're diagnosed with
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any of these conditions, it's anchored in the record. And every physician that treats you from
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that day forward just carries forward that diagnosis. They don't go back and say, hey,
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I wonder if this physician pulled said rates and rheumatoid factors. And I wonder if they actually
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did the right testing to determine if this condition existed. No, they accept that diagnosis
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and they pull forward from there. Once you're hypertensive, you're always treated as a
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hypertensive patient. Once you're rheumatoid, you're always treated as a rheumatoid patient.
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Once you're Crohn's disease autoimmune, you're always treated as Crohn's disease autoimmune.
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And we found a paucity of understanding of what these chemicals and synthetics and
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pharmaceuticals would do. I mean, we knew that opiates had an addictive amyloid long before you ever
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heard of the pain addiction crisis, right? We knew that patients weren't off of this.
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Why? Because we had all of their medical records and we could see that they were going to the VA
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and going to a primary and going cross state lines to another doctor and getting pain medication.
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And they clearly had an addiction. And then we would give them very little chance of getting
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off of that addiction, or we would walk them on to other addictions. Pain medication is a rich
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man's addiction. Heroin is a poor man's addiction. And so...
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Gary, can I just stop you there? Look, what you're saying is fascinating and heartbreaking at the same
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time. Because you're describing a system that, whilst well-intentioned, is making people even more sick.
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So I guess my question is, how can this be allowed to happen? And in a society which is as litigious as
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the United States, how come there haven't been thousands of lawsuits because of this?
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Well, there have been thousands of lawsuits. I mean, there are multi-billion dollar class
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action payouts every single year. Go watch the documentary on the opiate crisis. Nobody was
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criminally charged. But billions of dollars were paid out. But if you make 18 billion dollars on
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a drug and you settle a two and a half billion dollar lawsuit, understand that profits are not
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clawed back. Fines are inflicted. And so there's a certain amount of legal reserve for every single
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one of these, you know, pharmaceuticals. And again, I'm not attacking big pharma. And I am not attacking,
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you know, the government saying there's a conspiracy theory to kill us. But we built
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a system of crisis medicine, not a health care system. And we have been led to believe that this
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is the system that's going to bring us to a state of optimal health. It's not. It's for crisis
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intervention. I mean, if I hit a windshield at 20 miles an hour, 30 miles an hour, I'm going to the
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ER. I want a surgeon. I want pain medication. I want if I get pain in my shoulder, you know,
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radiating down my arm, I'm going to the emergency room. I'm not anti-modern medicine. But what I'm
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saying is putting a state of optimal health for human beings in the hands of modern medicine, which
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is where it is now, is a very poor choice. Right. I mean, I remember when I was in grad school and I
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was getting my second biology degree, this one in human biology, and I had to take all these plant
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botany courses. And, you know, I hated them, but you have to take them. And so I'm there studying
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plants. And the one thing that kept striking me was that it does not matter what goes wrong in the
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leaf or the branch or the trunk of a tree or brush shrug. If you call a true botanist or true arborist
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out to your house, they won't touch the leaves that are rotting in the top of the tree. They will
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core test the soil. And they'll look at the soil and they'll say, you know what, there's no nitrogen in
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this soil and they'll add nitrogen and the leaf will heal. And we've stopped thinking about human
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beings this way. Right. We've lost all faith in mankind and humanity. And we we we don't look for
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nutrient deficiencies in human beings. We assume that diseases are genetically inherited. And in many
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cases, that is patently false. The majority of diseases we call genetically inherited are not disease
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passing from generation to generation. It is an inability for the body to refine a raw material,
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for example, taking folic acid and turning it into the form the body uses called methylfolate.
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You inherit genetic deficiencies in a metabolic process called methylation, which leads to those
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diseases. You didn't inherit hypertension. In most cases, you didn't inherit a gene that gave you
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hypercholesterolemia, hyperinsulinemia, hypertension, depression, anxiety. You inherited an inability
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from your ancestor to refine a raw material. This caused a deficiency, which led to that condition.
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And these deficiencies can be fixed. And so this is this is the entire point. Right. I mean,
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if that tree were truly diseased, you'd have to send somebody up the ladder and start cutting off the
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branches and trimming the leaves and skinning the trunk. But the truth is, there was nothing wrong
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with the tree. It was deficient in raw material. And human beings have become super deficient in basic
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raw materials. Our food supply is hyper depleted now because of what we put into the soil. Our water
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supply has fluoride, chlorine, phosphates, microplastics. It has, you know, pharmaceuticals.
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These get into the body and they disrupt the metabolism of the body. It's it's, you know,
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a lot of what I preach about is just getting back to the basics. You know, meat is attacked. The truth
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is, most meat is very, very healthy for you if it's grass fed and grass finished. But when we industrial
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raise cattle on corn syrup and and soybean powder, which they're never eating naturally in nature,
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of course, the meat fills with pus. And we get a disproportionate ratio of omega six to omega three.
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And we're putting inflammatory compounds back in the human body. And so what was fascinating to me
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was that, you know, I wanted to pick up the phone and call those patients and be like, hey,
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you don't have rheumatoid arthritis. Just take some vitamin D3 and get off the methotrexate
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because this is impairing your ability to absorb other nutrients. And the first thing that would happen
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is the consequences of these medications. We knew, for example, you know, back to corticosteroids,
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you take a corticosteroid, it shuts your gut down. As soon as you shut your gut down,
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you reduce the nutrients you absorb and you reduce the nutrients you absorb. You compromise
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the immune system. You compromise the immune system and nutrients. You have a problem with
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cell walls, cell membranes and hormones. Now you're hormone deficient. You're not exchanging
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and eliminating waste through the cell wall like you were anymore. Inflammation starts to rise in the
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body. And now this myriad of conditions shows up a few years down the road that you never would
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have had had you just put the right raw material back into the human body.
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months free. Now, back to the show. It's very interesting you say that, Gary. And what do
00:23:49.740
you say with genes such as the Baraka gene, which people have isolated and said, you know,
00:23:56.740
if you have Baraka 1, I think it's your 90% more likely to develop breast cancer. If you have
00:24:01.460
Baraka 2, I think it's 80%. Yes. So there are genes, not all of them, there are genes that
00:24:09.400
predispose you to certain conditions, and there are some genetically inherited diseases. But let me
00:24:15.700
promise you something. 64% of the world's population does not have hypothyroid. 55% of the world's population
00:24:22.120
is not hypertensive. They don't have the disease hypertension. If you actually look at the categories
00:24:27.360
of these diseases, just take hypertension, for example, 85% of all hypertensive diagnosis, meaning
00:24:35.100
diagnosis of high blood pressure, are idiopathic. What's idiopathic mean? It means of unknown origin.
00:24:41.740
So that means only 15% of the diagnosis of high blood pressure, we can point to the cause. Yes. That means
00:24:50.280
85% of the time we have no idea what's causing it. And what do we do? We medicate the heart. We medicate
00:24:55.240
the heart for a crime it's not committing. The majority of people that have high blood pressure have a normal
00:25:00.000
EKG, a normal EEG. They have normal heart and lung sounds. They have a normal die contrast study. They have
00:25:05.420
normal cardiac catheterizations. So why are we still medicating the heart? Because we're not looking at the
00:25:10.560
biome. We're not looking at the fact that this hypertension that ran in this family, because it is
00:25:17.620
familial, meaning genetically runs in the family, does not mean that disease hypertension is being
00:25:25.160
passed from generation to generation. In rare cases, it is. But what it means is that we have passed a gene
00:25:32.960
mutation, interrupting the ability for the body to refine a raw material. In most cases, it's an amino
00:25:40.140
acid called homocysteine. This is what happened with Dana White. And if homocysteine rises in the
00:25:48.260
bloodstream, as it's cruising by the inside lining of the artery, it irritates the artery. When you
00:25:54.780
irritate an artery, it clamps down. If you make the pipes smaller in a fixed system, pressure goes up.
00:26:03.240
And so now the pressure is rising, but there's nothing wrong with the heart. So we examine the heart,
00:26:07.280
there's nothing wrong. And we say, we don't know what causes it. And we medicate the heart. So now you're
00:26:11.300
medicating a perfectly healthy organ, beta blockers, calcium channel blockers, diuretics. What are these
00:26:16.040
doing? They're stripping nutrients out of the body, potassium, magnesium, sodium, electrolytes. Well, what
00:26:22.340
needs electrolytes to function? The heart. And so it's an interesting dichotomy of how we're so myopic
00:26:29.340
when we look very often at disease. Some of the worst research ever done on this planet is when we study
00:26:35.040
cells or organs in human beings in isolation, right? Not a single cell in your body exists in
00:26:42.340
isolation. In fact, if you want to cut a human being's life expectancy in half, any person walking
00:26:47.800
this earth, no matter what age they are right now, they can be 15, they can be 50. You want to cut
00:26:53.080
their life expectancy in half, put them in isolation. You will cut their life expectancy by 50%. This is what
00:27:00.160
happens to cells in isolation. You know, they're in an environment where they're exchanging frequency,
00:27:05.060
they're exchanging electrochemical signals, they're exchanging with their outside environment,
00:27:08.880
they're eliminating waste, they're repairing, they're detoxifying, they're dividing. And then
00:27:12.520
we pull the cell out, we stick it in a Petri dish, and we do a bunch of stuff to it. And we say,
00:27:16.460
whoa, this is a magnificent discovery. Look how this cell behaved in the Petri dish. Then we put the cell
00:27:22.800
back into the body and nothing of the sort happens. And so what I'm saying is what God gave us
00:27:28.780
is meant to thrive. We were meant to have it all. We were meant to have the libido of a lion.
00:27:34.620
We were meant to have sleep like a bear. We were meant to have the waking energy of a freaking tiger.
00:27:38.860
We were meant to have sharp, clear, cognizant function. We were meant to sleep deep, get a deep
00:27:43.680
theta wave of sleep. We were meant to have managed emotional state. But the truth is,
00:27:51.680
as you begin to deplete nutrients, you get the consequences of those diseases. I don't think
00:27:57.220
that we have a mental health crisis. I think we have a lack of mental fitness.
00:28:05.860
What do you mean by that, Gary? What do you mean by a lack of mental fitness?
00:28:10.140
Well, what does it mean to be mentally fit? What is a mood? What is an emotional state?
00:28:14.660
So let's talk about brain chemistry for a minute. If you said to me, what is a mood?
00:28:20.280
What is an emotional state? I would tell you that it's a collection of neurotransmitters
00:28:24.480
bound to oxygen. So for example, every elevated emotional state that a human being can experience
00:28:31.980
requires oxygen as a part of its molecular structure. So for example, passion, elation,
00:28:39.740
joy, arousal, libido, all the sort of hell yeah, I won the lottery emotions,
00:28:45.660
all require an elevated oxidative state. So if this is the reason why no human being has ever
00:28:52.220
woken up laughing, you don't have the oxidative state to experience laughter. But can you wake up
00:28:57.320
angry? Yes, because anger does not require oxygen, neither does despair, jealousy, resentment. And so
00:29:04.140
these are readily accessible emotions. So what happens is our physiology drags us down into the state
00:29:12.220
where it most comfortably exists. So if you have a low oxidative state in the blood, low red blood cell
00:29:18.780
count, low hemoglobin, you're anemic, or even not anemic, but you're borderline anemic, your doctor
00:29:25.720
tells you that you're normal. Well, now you have low levels of oxygen in the blood, you're not going to
00:29:30.960
reach an elevated emotional state for any period of time other than something that looks like a heart
00:29:35.820
monitor. And you're going to spend your life journaling and searching and reading self-help motivational
00:29:40.640
books and trying to get in the right rooms and waking up in gratitude. And your emotional state
00:29:45.180
is going to go right back down to where your physiology drags it. We need data on ourselves
00:29:50.860
in order to drive a state of optimal health. You know, most entrepreneurs, it's astounding. They
00:29:56.060
know more about their business than they know about their own blood. They know more about their
00:30:01.040
business than they know about their own, their nutrition. I do this all the time where I'll take
00:30:04.700
young, hard charging, successful entrepreneurs. I'll bring them up on stage and I'll just say,
00:30:09.240
hey, how much money did your business make last month? You know, $662,400. Awesome. What
00:30:17.500
were your net revenues? $144,315. How many employees do you have? 16. What's your revenue
00:30:24.200
employee? $72,400. Just out of curiosity, what's your glucose level? What is your testosterone?
00:30:32.720
Do you have any idea what your insulin level is? Do you know where your D3 stands? Blank.
00:30:40.240
Right. That's astounding to me that we have more data on our business than we have on our temple.
00:30:46.360
And right. So it's in the temple is what's driving the business. You know, the business isn't driving
00:30:51.420
the temple. And, and so, um, you know, when, when, when you look at that, you know, going back to mental
00:30:57.820
fitness, um, where are these neurotransmitters made? Well, 90% of them are in your gut. 90% of the
00:31:04.100
serotonin, the main driver of mood dopamine, the main driver of behavior is made in the gut. We
00:31:09.620
take amino acid called tryptophan. We methylate it in the gut into, um, a neurotransmitter called
00:31:16.200
serotonin goes up to the brain, creates a mood. What if you can't, what if you have an impaired
00:31:21.440
conversion of, um, tryptophan into serotonin? What if you can't convert phenylalanine and tyrosine at the
00:31:28.960
right rate to, um, dopamine? Well, now you get the expression of that disease. You know, we used to
00:31:35.320
for decades, we defined depression as an inadequate supply of serotonin. So the prevailing, um,
00:31:43.560
definition in all of modern medicine was if you're low on serotonin, you're by definition depressed.
00:31:48.360
You know, not one SSRI raises serotonin. So you would think if the definition is I have low serotonin,
00:31:55.660
then the fix would be to raise serotonin, but that's not what we do.
00:31:59.300
We actually take people that are depressed. We put them on selective serotonin reuptake
00:32:02.920
inhibitors. These, and what these do effectively, not exactly, but effectively, they ration what
00:32:07.960
little serotonin you have. So by definition, they never end depression. So by definition,
00:32:14.200
um, you stay on these longer than, than you should. I mean, I have clients come in all the time. I'm
00:32:19.360
like, how long have you been on an antidepressant? 15 years, 18 years. I go, okay, well, when did you
00:32:24.840
think it was going to kick in? Um, but if we understand that these neurotransmitters that
00:32:30.400
we're trying to raise are methylated in the gut, we understand that depression rarely begins in the
00:32:34.640
outside environment. Same with anxiety, right? Same with ADD and ADHD. You know how many
00:32:40.060
entrepreneurs are, are, are hindered by attention deficit disorder or attention deficit hyperactivity
00:32:46.140
disorder? ADD is, is, is not an attention deficit at all. It's an attention overload disorder. You see
00:32:53.600
in the human brain, we don't just create thought. We also dismantle thought. So if you don't break
00:32:59.920
thought down, it's called catecholamines, a flood of neurotransmitters in the brain. If you don't break
00:33:07.680
down catecholamines because you lack the complex of vitamins, you lack methylated B12, and you lack
00:33:14.700
methylfolate, which are the big ones that help do this. Um, then you are creating thought at a faster
00:33:21.480
rate than you're breaking it down. And the mind becomes clavid. People that have ADD do not lack
00:33:28.060
the ability to pay attention. They lack the ability to pay attention to so many things. And then we say,
00:33:34.840
well, this is an attention deficit disorder. It's actually an attention overload disorder. And then
00:33:38.920
what does modern medicine say? It says, well, if the mind is racing, then let's put an amphetamine into
00:33:44.380
the body to race the central nervous system to match the pace of the mind. This is what Ritalin
00:33:50.140
and Adderall and, um, Vyvanse do, right? They're amphetamines. So now what happens? You create a
00:33:56.440
non-physiologic response. You build a tolerance. You build, um, a dependency, even worse. And now the
00:34:03.200
only thing that's certain is that the dosage of that medication is going to go up and you are, um,
00:34:08.920
um, inhibiting, you're not raising the very neurotransmitter that the body needs.
00:34:13.500
When, when our gut is healthy and when we have the right methylated vitamins in our body, this is
00:34:19.680
why I think just about everybody should be taking a good vitamin D3 with K2 supplement. You definitely
00:34:25.120
don't have to take mine. Gary, Gary, this is what I was going to say. So what you just did there was a
00:34:29.800
very beautiful analysis of the things that are going wrong. The things that are going wrong in
00:34:35.460
people's bodies are things that are going wrong in the medical system. So what are the solutions to
00:34:42.200
this? How can people live a better and healthier life? And, but Gary, by the way, before you answer,
00:34:47.520
I just wanted to add, cause I was about to ask you the same question that, uh, what I said to you
00:34:52.040
before we started, which is there's a lot of people talking about medicine and how to be healthy and
00:34:56.860
whatever on the internet. But I think one of the reasons we are so interested in talking to you is
00:35:01.000
you've worked with a number of people, Dana White being the most obvious example,
00:35:05.040
where you literally see the transformation and Dana himself has come out and talked about
00:35:10.800
the difference it's made in his quality of life as well. So the question is, if I'm an ordinary
00:35:15.960
person listening to this, what do I do? How do I find out what are some of the things that I may want
00:35:21.040
to look out for as symptoms, et cetera? How do I get to the place Dana is getting without having his
00:35:26.740
money? Yeah. So first let me tell you four things that you can do that are absolutely free. Okay.
00:35:32.580
And then I'll tell you four things that you need to do that are going to cost you next to nothing.
00:35:36.900
Right. And you don't have to pay me for this. You can do this on your own. You know, first of all,
00:35:41.040
one of the things that we have come to know in the, in the anti-aging and longevity space,
00:35:45.420
biohacking space, bio-optimization, whatever you want to call it, is that the further we get from
00:35:50.680
the basics, the sicker we become. Human beings were meant to spend 85% of our time outdoors.
00:35:57.680
We spend 97% of our time indoors. Now we go from a covered house to a covered car,
00:36:03.420
to a covered garage, to a covered office, to a covered mall, right? I mean, we, we, we,
00:36:08.480
we don't spend much time outdoors. What do we get from other nature? We get three things from other
00:36:12.520
nature. We get magnetism from the earth. We get oxygen from the air. We get light from the sun.
00:36:18.020
You want to change the entire trajectory of your life. Put these four things into your life. They will
00:36:22.940
cost you nothing and you can do them anywhere. Number one, try to get natural sunlight touching
00:36:29.000
your skin once a day. Six, eight, 10 minutes is plenty. Because we are photovoltaic beings.
00:36:37.060
Yes, you can go out and buy $120,000 red light bed. I sell one, but you do not need that $120,000
00:36:43.020
red light bed to get the photovoltaic benefits that we can get from other nature. And expose your skin
00:36:48.980
to sunlight, preferably at first light, because during the first 45 minutes of the day, there's
00:36:53.140
no UVA, there's no UVB rays. There's only healthy blue light from the sun. This will reset your
00:36:58.680
cortisol receptors. It will reset your melatonin receptors. Um, and it will start the process of
00:37:03.640
making vitamin D3 and it's free. The second thing you should learn how to do is, um, learn how to do
00:37:09.900
breath work. And the reason why I say this is there are four minute, six minute, eight minute breath work
00:37:15.360
routines. I have an eight minute breath work routine. I do it religiously every single day.
00:37:21.500
I don't think in 40 months I've missed a single day. I'll literally miss a commercial flight
00:37:25.880
to not miss breath work. And because we can reset our circadian cycle by within 30 minutes of waking
00:37:33.420
every day, finding a quiet place, preferably facing the sun, preferably outside, depending on the weather
00:37:38.540
and doing three rounds of 30 obnoxiously deep breaths with a breath hold in between. What does
00:37:45.520
this do? Well, since the majority of us are not moving and we're not breathing, we lose these
00:37:51.040
auxiliary muscles of respiration. Our diaphragm doesn't massage our intestines. We don't get oxygen
00:37:55.540
down into the lobes of our lungs. So learn to do three rounds of 30 breaths. I follow a Wim Hof
00:38:01.120
style of breath work. It's available for free all over the internet. It will take you eight minutes.
00:38:05.680
You do it every morning within 30 minutes of waking to tell your body, this is what we do when we wake
00:38:12.540
up. When you change time zones, you're doing it within 30 minutes of waking. It will help reset your
00:38:17.400
circadian rhythm. So expose your skin to sunlight and do eight minutes of breath work. The third thing
00:38:23.480
you could do is a few times a week, more often if you can, but a minimum three times a week, try to get
00:38:28.700
bare feet touching bare grass, soil, dirt, sand. Come in contact with the surface of the earth.
00:38:36.120
Earthing and grounding is a very real thing. It is not mumbo jumbo. It is not a bunch of spiritual
00:38:42.300
nonsense. We discharge into the earth. If you actually look at human beings, we build up a
00:38:47.800
charge and it is complete fallacy that you can change the charge in the human body by drinking
00:38:52.320
alkaline water. That's the biggest marketing myth ever sold to the public. You cannot change the pH of
00:38:57.400
the blood by drinking alkaline water. You can by contacting the surface of the earth. pH stands for
00:39:02.760
potential hydrogen. It is a charge. So if you want to repolarize the surface of your cells,
00:39:08.320
contact the surface of the earth. You can also do this by buying an expensive PEMF mat.
00:39:13.080
They're about five grand. You don't need to do that. Contact the surface of the earth. And the
00:39:17.420
third thing I would do is I would add an ice cold shower for 60 seconds to three minutes once a day.
00:39:24.160
The majority of people are not going to take this advice because it's uncomfortable. But this routine
00:39:29.400
will take you all of 10, 12 minutes to contact the surface of the earth, expose your skin to
00:39:35.100
sunlight, do a round of breath work, take a cold shower. No need to buy an expensive cold plunge.
00:39:39.460
You're going to shower today anyway. Just turn it as cold as it will get when you're done and step
00:39:44.460
into that stream. And why do you want to constantly do this? Well, because the body has a process called
00:39:49.500
hormesis where it is stressed and it strengthens in response. One of the worst things we continue to do
00:39:57.740
is look at stress as being a negative for human beings. If you don't tear a muscle, it will not
00:40:04.140
grow. If you don't load a bone, it will not strengthen. If you don't challenge the immune
00:40:09.100
system, it will weaken. We are seeing right now the consequences of a globally weakened immune system.
00:40:16.000
I'm probably going to lose 50% of your audience on this next statement because people are like,
00:40:20.900
oh, you're a political sycophant, whatever. I get attacked for it all the time. But the worst thing
00:40:25.140
that we ever did to humanity, and I'm a human biologist, was residential quarantining, social
00:40:31.020
distancing, and masking. I'm sorry. Yeah, you've just won over our entire audience, Gary. Don't
00:40:35.260
worry about that. I lose half my Instagram followers every time I talk about, you know.
00:40:41.120
No, no, we're very much with you on that one. So those are four great things. And you know what?
00:40:47.000
It's so interesting to me what a lot of the stuff you're saying resonates with some of the stuff that
00:40:50.900
I just know experientially. For example, you talk about the importance of the gut.
00:40:56.340
This whole, like, Ayurvedic medicine is based entirely on the idea that you treat the body
00:41:01.140
through food and nutrition and gut health. And the showers thing, we've been doing it for years,
00:41:07.700
going to the sauna, doing the cold showers, cold plunges in between, and stuff like that.
00:41:12.420
But I'm going to take on board all the other stuff that you're saying because I'd really love to
00:41:16.360
give all of this a go. You mentioned there's also some stuff that people don't need to spend a huge
00:41:21.520
amount of money on but can do as well. Can you talk to us about that? Yeah. So there's three
00:41:25.460
things that you need to permanently get out of your life, right? Because these are products of
00:41:30.060
the industrial revolution. We were never meant to come in contact with these things. I think we
00:41:34.640
just start with the premise that we have two choices, right? We can either filter our environment
00:41:42.480
and we can filter things before they enter our body, or we can allow our body to be the filter.
00:41:48.320
So, for example, when I look at food, I literally look at food and I say, are you going to serve me
00:41:53.400
or are you going to steal from me? Because if you're going to steal from me, you're not coming
00:41:57.220
into the temple. I don't care how pretty your suit is, how well you're dressed, and how much,
00:42:01.620
you know, how good the icing on the top looks. If you're going to steal from me, you're not coming in.
00:42:06.260
And it's kind of an easy premise for me to guide myself because I put a very high value on my
00:42:13.460
energy level. So, number one, permanently get tap water out of your life. Tap water has fluoride,
00:42:21.860
it has chlorine, it has microplastics, it has pharmaceuticals that I'm talking about here in the
00:42:25.860
United States and abroad. Fluoride is a neurotoxin, it is a byproduct, it is a waste product from
00:42:33.100
phosphate fertilizer manufacturing. It's called fluorosilicic acid. And we have to discard the
00:42:39.420
fluorosilicic acid because if they kept it in fertilizer, it would kill the seed. So now we
00:42:46.140
take this and we dump it into our municipal water supply. And every time that we drink water,
00:42:50.700
we're getting fluoride, we're getting chlorine. In fact, if you want to do an amazing experiment at
00:42:54.720
home, order a $1.50 or $1.99 chlorine testing kit. And these are little droppers that you can,
00:43:01.960
you know, you take a glass of water, you can put a few drops in it. If it turns bright yellow,
00:43:07.660
it's got the presence of chlorine. Fill up two glasses of water from your tap. Just do this
00:43:12.680
sometime. Take two glasses of water from your tap, set them on the table. Put your fingers,
00:43:17.320
four of your fingers down into one glass of water and leave them there for a minute.
00:43:21.400
And take your fingers out and put the drops in both glasses of water. You will notice one glass of
00:43:26.300
water is full of chlorine. The glass you put your fingers in has no chlorine. Why is that?
00:43:31.400
Because it went into your skin. You see, because our bodies absorb that. And so I think that people
00:43:37.720
should invest in a water filtration system. I think it's critically important. I use one called
00:43:44.440
an echo water filtration system. I also use a hydrogenator. I hydrogenate all my water. I think
00:43:53.140
it's the best water you can put in a human body. Just pour water into one of these things, you hit a
00:43:57.700
button and it actually starts to make hydrogen water. If you look at the research on hydrogen
00:44:01.440
water and how it feeds the gut and feeds a whole class of gut bacteria called hydrophiles and
00:44:07.240
improves absorption of nutrients, supplements. So the first thing is get tap water out of your life.
00:44:13.740
The second thing is to get GMO foods out of your life. If you look at the trajectory of research
00:44:18.820
right now from 2009 to 2023, we are now really beginning to realize the implication of using
00:44:27.900
genetically modified foods and putting these into the human body. First of all, we didn't
00:44:32.960
genetically modify seeds to increase the crop yield. We didn't genetically modify seeds to increase
00:44:37.700
nutrition. We genetically modified seeds to make them resistant to glyphosate, a poison that is found in
00:44:44.500
roundup and insecticides. So it's easy when you're going through the grocery store. This is part of
00:44:50.140
what I mean about developing this mentality of filtering things. Filter your water before you put it in.
00:44:56.020
Filter your food by just understanding some basics. I'm not going to eat GMO foods. And the third thing is
00:45:01.540
not to ingest seed oils. Again, I got shadow banned all over Instagram for a big expose that I did on
00:45:10.380
seed oils. And I said, listen, I never said seed oils were bad for you. I said, industrial processed
00:45:15.300
seed oils are bad for you. When you take a canola plant and you put it in a commercial press and it
00:45:20.400
comes out gummy, and then you degum it with hexane, a neurotoxin, and then you heat that degummed neurotoxic
00:45:27.040
oil to 405 degrees, which turns it rancid. And then you deodorize it with sodium hydroxide, a known
00:45:33.940
carcinogen, and then you bleach it and bottle it and put it on the shelf. That is one of the most toxic
00:45:39.660
compounds you can put in the human body. It's increasing the rate of skin cancers. It's
00:45:44.400
increasing the rate of atherosclerosis, arteriosclerosis. It's doubling the rate of
00:45:48.820
cardiovascular disease. And these are unnatural things to put in the body. So those are three
00:45:53.260
things that may add something to your budget. Water filtration, not getting GMO foods out of your
00:46:01.000
diet because non-GMO is slightly more expensive, and getting seed oils out of your diet. If you want
00:46:06.380
to make it simple, get five oils. You can use a coconut oil, a ghee butter, a grass-fed butter,
00:46:11.960
or tallow for cooking, and you can use an extra virgin olive oil for all your room temperature
00:46:16.140
stuff. It's really all you need. You can do anything with those five.
00:46:21.800
If you want to take it to the next level, this is where you start to get data. I believe that every
00:46:28.540
human being, once in their lifetime, needs to do what's called a genetic methylation test.
00:46:34.740
And what is this test? It's usually a cheek swab that you send into a laboratory. You can get them
00:46:40.760
all over the place. You do not have to get the test through me. There's all kinds of great genetic
00:46:45.040
testing companies out there. You do a cheek swab. You send it in. When the results come back,
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this test will tell you, and this will never change. You only do this test once in your life.
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This test will tell you exactly what your body can convert into the usable form and what it can't.
00:47:02.140
And then you supplement for that deficiency. I promise you the most magic things happen in
00:47:09.300
human beings when you supplement for deficiency and not the sake of supplement, right? So many of us are
00:47:15.520
caught up in whether or not a supplement is a good supplement. CoQ10, John's World, turmeric, curcumin,
00:47:21.560
ashwagandha, NMN, nicotinic acid. You know, all of these supplements are great. The question is,
00:47:27.600
do you need them? What is my body deficient in? Because if you had to put nitrogen into the soil
00:47:33.880
of the plant, the example I used before, everything, potash, whatever you put on that soil, you know,
00:47:40.440
sodium, sulfur, calcium, the plant wouldn't heal. As soon as you give it the missing raw material,
00:47:47.640
that's when magic happens. And you can find that on a genetic methylation test.
00:47:51.300
That way for the rest of your life, you'll never guess again on what you need to supplement with
00:47:56.460
and whatnot. Here's my supplements right here. Um, you know, where are they? I take a resveratrol. I
00:48:04.980
take a, um, trimethylglycine. I take a complex of, um, methylated multivitamins, magnesium, and zinc.
00:48:12.000
Not much. Um, and it's astounding. I post my blood work to Instagram roughly every 90 days
00:48:18.040
so I can, you know, kind of battle the bro science community. Um, uh, and, and, and just,
00:48:25.140
you know, put it out there. I have the same blood fat as a vegan and I get 75% of my caloric intake
00:48:29.720
from fat. So Gary, what we're talking about here is revolutionary. How can people get a hold of
00:48:40.260
these particular type of, uh, tests? Is it, are there lots of companies that do it? Are there very
00:48:45.920
few? Yeah. So you want to, um, um, especially if you're outside the U S you want to search for
00:48:50.800
something called a genetic methylation test. Okay. I specifically look at five genes. I look at
00:48:59.120
MTHFR. It's infectionally called the motherfucker gene. I look at MTR, MTRR. I'm saying these slow so
00:49:09.340
they can write them down. A H C Y and C O M T. You will cover such a dramatic voluminous amount
00:49:19.400
of consequences that people are chalking up to aging just by looking at those five genes and
00:49:27.380
supplementing for those deficiencies. ADD, ADHD, OCD, manic depression, bipolar, you're, um, very
00:49:35.120
often hypertension, not always hypertension, people that have poor gut issues. Anyone with anxiety has
00:49:40.880
to do that test. Anyone with depressive history has to do that test. If you have trouble sleeping,
00:49:46.400
chances are you fit into one of two categories. You either lay down to go to sleep at night and you
00:49:51.860
have a hard time falling asleep because your mind keeps you awake because as your environment quiets,
00:49:57.100
your mind wakes up. And if you talk to people that have this consequence and you ask them, well,
00:50:01.700
what are you thinking about? They'll say, I'm thinking about the most innocuous little nonsense,
00:50:06.560
like whether or not I got everything on my, you know, grocery list or whether or not I returned that
00:50:10.800
email or my belt match my shoes today. Um, and, or they fall asleep and they wake up because their
00:50:17.180
mind wakes them up. This is a simple issue with excess catecholamines in the brain. As soon as you give
00:50:24.040
the body, the raw materials, L-methionine, SAMe, B-complex and complex of B vitamins, methylcobalamin,
00:50:31.820
you see that the mind calms at night. And, and now people don't have a hard time falling asleep
00:50:37.960
because it wasn't that they weren't tired. It's that their mind was awake. And so you want to see
00:50:43.520
magic things happen in your body, test for what it's deficient in, and then just give it the raw
00:50:49.220
material. It needs to do its job. You'll be shocked how well it performs. Is this the reason,
00:50:53.960
Gary, why so many people who have got anxiety and depression tend to have irritable bowel syndrome?
00:51:00.480
It's exactly the reason why, right? Because where is 90% of the serotonin in the body?
00:51:05.540
It's in the gut. If you don't have it here, you can't have it here. First of all, no one ever really
00:51:10.740
defines what anxiety really is. I mean, what is anxiety? Well, anxiety is, we know, we know how to
00:51:16.460
define it, right? We know that it's a fear of the future. It's a general, um, um, it's like a
00:51:22.440
fight or flight feeling. But when we actually delve into anxiety and we, and we ask, you know,
00:51:27.740
from physiological standpoint, what is it? Well, first of all, um, we have to understand that the
00:51:32.920
brain, as sophisticated as we'd like to think it is, it's, it's, it's really not, right? It's that the
00:51:38.060
brain is actually very primal, right? You know what the brain cares about? It cares about survival
00:51:42.000
and it's nasty. Like it's like the little Kim Jong-un of dictators sits up there, takes everything
00:51:47.640
for itself, right? If it wants calcium, it'll leach it from the bones. If it wants amino acids,
00:51:51.760
it'll strip it from lean muscle. If it wants sugar, it'll activate a receptor on the back of the tongue
00:51:56.400
and give you a dopamine reward for giving it sugar. But when we talk about anxiety, um, we also have to
00:52:02.640
understand that the brain doesn't understand the difference between perception and reality.
00:52:06.560
So I always use the example that if you drove home tonight and you got out of your car and somebody
00:52:12.420
was standing in front of you with a knife, you would instantly have a fight or flight response,
00:52:17.020
right? Pupils would dilate, your heart rate would increase, your extremities would flood with blood.
00:52:21.740
You'd start having a fight or flight response. Gary, we live in London. We're used to it, mate.
00:52:28.360
You'd be like, Hey brother, I put the knife down. What do you, what do you need? Here's 10 pounds.
00:52:33.300
I have actually heard that the last time I was in London, my buddy told me not to wear my watch out.
00:52:39.860
I go, what? Get where you're watching London, LA and now London. Um, so, but think about this.
00:52:48.980
I'm on the 30th floor of a condo building right now, right? So you could be sitting at, you could
00:52:53.040
be laying in my bed in there and start thinking about getting eaten by shark and the chance of a
00:52:59.240
shark getting out of that ocean. Whoops. Getting out of that ocean and coming up that elevator
00:53:05.540
are zero, but you can have the exact same response. Why is that? Because the same cascade of
00:53:12.720
neurotransmitters that showed up when that guy was in front of you with a knife is the one that shows
00:53:17.260
up when you thought about getting eaten by a shark. So once you understand that you don't need the
00:53:22.140
presence of a fear to feel fear, you start to understand the genesis of anxiety. So if we take
00:53:28.540
it a step further, what's creating that fear? A class of neurotransmitters called catecholamines.
00:53:34.880
When they rise in the brain, you get the presence of fear. You don't have to be on the 30th floor of a
00:53:40.980
balcony and walk to the edge. You don't have to be claustrophobic and step on a crowded elevator.
00:53:45.120
You don't have to be afraid of flights and getting on an airplane. You can be sitting
00:53:47.800
on a podcast like we are right now. And people that suffer from anxiety could start becoming
00:53:53.640
overwhelmed with anxiety. And the worst thing you can do is try to reason them out of having anxiety.
00:54:00.260
You know, tell them there's no reason to feel that way. There's nothing wrong with you. There's
00:54:03.780
nothing to be afraid of. But at the end of the day, if we understand that this is a rise in catecholamines
00:54:10.200
and the basic B-complex and L-methionine and methylfolate are what degrade these catecholamines,
00:54:19.200
then why wouldn't we try putting those raw materials back into the human body to see if we could
00:54:23.800
permanently put anxiety in our rear view mirror? People don't want it to be that simple, but very
00:54:31.040
Well, Gary, it's really, I'm glad I've seen a couple of your interviews, but I'm really glad
00:54:36.440
we had you on to talk about this stuff because I am genuinely going to go out and give all of this
00:54:40.740
a go. I've been meaning to for a long time, but I'm very keen to see how it works out. And maybe
00:54:49.720
Yeah, I'd love to as well, Gary, because what you were talking about, particularly when it comes to
00:54:55.800
anxiety, is somebody who has anxiety and ADHD and, you know, you do the meditation, you work out,
00:55:06.780
They teach you to cope, right? You're just adding power to the motor to get through it. We're talking
00:55:16.960
Yeah. So I definitely, definitely want to, I'm definitely going to give this a go.
00:55:20.940
Me too. Me too. Well, before we move on to questions from our supporters on Locals and elsewhere,
00:55:27.880
uh, our last question in the, in the main interview is always the same, which is what is the one thing
00:55:33.200
we're not talking about, uh, at the level of our society that we should be?
00:55:37.440
Um, um, the commonality between all of us, you know, um, it's, it's interesting how much flack I
00:55:44.260
get when I do posts with certain people. I do a post with Dana White. People go, he's an atheist.
00:55:48.120
How do you work with him? I do a post with Grant Cardone. They're like, he's a Scientologist.
00:55:52.280
How could you do a post with Steven Seagal? And they're like, he's a Putin supporter. How could you?
00:55:56.160
I said, because I see a human being and, and I don't ask for your political or religious
00:56:03.800
affiliation or anything else, nor do I really care. I see a human being and there is much more
00:56:10.420
than we have in common than we have, um, in, in differences. And I think sadly, um, our governments
00:56:17.220
are doing a very good job at pointing out the differences and dividing us. I mean, when I was
00:56:22.580
growing up, it used to be okay to be a Republican at a democratic dinner and just talk about your
00:56:27.000
decisions. Now you can't even be in the same house. Um, and, and I think that's the first
00:56:32.680
thing in this. And the second thing is, um, I don't think that we're talking about basic nutrition
00:56:37.960
enough anymore. What we allow into our food supply and processed foods and the amount of, um, um,
00:56:45.640
sugars that we allow into the human diet. And, and this, this theory of single dose toxicity,
00:56:52.480
which is horrible. We should use something called cumulative dose toxicity to determine whether or
00:56:58.420
not something is poisonous. Um, to me is a travesty because people, uh, sadly trust our government
00:57:05.280
and, uh, they trust them to keep them healthy and keep their water clean and keep their food
00:57:09.660
nutritious. And, and none of that is, is very true. All right. Well, Gary, listen, thank you so much.
00:57:15.780
Uh, head on over with us, uh, to locals and elsewhere for questions with our supporters.
00:57:21.380
Let's fire it up. What is the importance of sleep to general health, brain function, weight, et cetera?