In this episode, we debate whether or not Joe Biden is a good president, why he should win the 2020 election, and why he's better than Donald Trump. We also discuss why we should vote for him and why we shouldn't.
00:00:45.380There's a buildup for how these things happen.
00:00:47.940So what he just did is he said the conditions for the largest slaughter of Jews since 1945 were created by President Trump.
00:00:56.280A lot of the stuff that he did during his presidency was kind of a buildup to the frustrations that would obviously come out on October 7th and that horrible terrorist attack.
00:01:05.340It's because nobody fears the senile old man in the White House who talks to dead people and thinks his wife is his sister.
00:01:16.860The question I want to ask you is a question I can't ask you on YouTube, which is about January the 6th and everything that happened around that.
00:01:29.460Do you believe the 2020 election was stolen?
00:01:32.780So to say that he went along with the peaceful transfer of power is just a lie.
00:01:37.320Well, he did because he left the White House.
00:01:39.500Yes, after he failed to steal the election.
00:01:44.420Seb, Stephen, thank you so much for coming on.
00:01:46.440Obviously, we want to focus exclusively on the election that's upcoming.
00:01:50.780And one of the things we agreed before is that both of you get a chance to set out a positive case for your candidate, something that we never hear anymore because everyone just criticizes the other person.
00:01:59.780So given that Biden is incumbent, Stephen, do you want to start us off?
00:02:05.880I think that Biden is a good president because I think that he's shown that he's willing to defend and strengthen our institutions.
00:02:11.680I think that the United States is only as strong as the institutions that we have.
00:02:16.580You can have parchment guarantees from constitutions that say you're afforded X, Y, Z rights or, you know, you're guaranteed in the United States to be able to do some particular things.
00:02:25.900But at the end of the day, if we don't have a government telling you that the food is safe or this medicine is safe or your car is not going to explode at the end of the day, I think that none of those things actually matter, the parchment guarantees.
00:02:37.140So I think that Biden has done a really good job at kind of reaffirming our institutions, whereas I feel like Trump is a bit more negative towards them.
00:02:44.420The second thing is I think Biden has done a really good job at being able to actually bring different people in Congress together to pass legislation.
00:02:51.680I think that bipartisanship is really important right now considering how divided we are.
00:02:56.200You've got things that Trump said about infrastructure for four years that never got done.
00:03:00.900The closest we got to infrastructure building in the United States under Trump are tariffs, which are basically just taxes on our own citizens, whereas Biden was able to pass the IRA and the CHIPS Act, which both have like fostered a ton of new manufacturing that's been happening in the United States, which I think is really cool because we're finally building stuff again.
00:03:20.140And then I think that the foreign policy under Biden, I think that our aims right now are a lot more noble than they were under Trump.
00:03:26.660I think that regardless of your feelings, our participation with supporting Ukraine against Russia or supporting Israel against the situation in the Middle East is a lot more defensible than endless drone wars that we're trying to hide in Yemen, you know, fighting in Syria, whatever other, you know, the photo opportunities with North Korea, the back and forth with Iran, whatever kind of like mixed bag of undermining the United States Trump was involved in when it came to US foreign policy under him.
00:03:54.980So those are my three big ones, I think defensive institutions, ability to bipartisanly pass legislation, and then more noble foreign policy aims.
00:04:03.620Perfect. I will come back to you to probe at some of those things.
00:04:08.840He loves America. He doesn't hate America. It's really that simple.
00:04:12.660And he understands the institutions are either broken or corrupt.
00:04:17.940And he's not a member of the political elite. He wasn't in politics for 47 years like the current incumbent in the White House.
00:04:24.100He is not part of the quote-unquote political elite that clearly detests our nation and Judeo-Christian civilization.
00:04:34.280There's a reason that working-class Americans from across the nation voted for him in 2016.
00:04:39.860There's a reason that recently in Harlem, we saw what?
00:04:43.760We saw a black 10-year-old child chant out, we love you, Trump, which was then picked up by all the adults around that young boy, because they see in that man authenticity.
00:04:58.900He's not somebody with 21 shell companies funneling money from communist China, Russia, the Ukraine, into his son's dodgy dealings, and then into the Biden family.
00:05:09.680He has authenticity and he loves America.
00:05:11.980The first time I met him, I've told this story on your show previously, I grew up in the UK.
00:05:18.140It was a very different culture for me to meet this reality TV star in his, you know, golden tower in New York.
00:05:24.720But within 30 seconds of sitting down with this man, I realized two things.
00:05:28.620He loves America and he hates political correctness.
00:05:30.780That is the antithesis of the political class, whether it's rhino fake Republicans or the institutionalized Democrats.
00:05:37.840And that's why he's trouncing Biden in every significant poll in America.
00:05:43.180People see a man who understands America has lost its way.
00:05:47.080The elite on both sides of the aisle have betrayed American, especially American workers, and we need to fix it.
00:06:19.940You'd give billions of dollars to the greatest state-sponsored terrorism in the world, Iran, that every Friday chants a death to America.
00:06:27.580You'd undermine our relationship with our closest ally in the Middle East, Israel.
00:06:31.720Stop sending them the weapons they need to save themselves from the bloodthirsty jihadists that killed more Jews than we've ever seen since the end of the show, the end of the Holocaust.
00:06:42.180You'd make it harder for Americans to live their lives.
00:06:46.320When, on the first day of the Biden administration, you ban the Exxar Keystone Pipeline extension.
00:06:51.520You say no more fracking, no more energy exploration on federal lands.
00:06:56.260We go from $1.80 a gallon of petrol to now we have, in California, $6.
00:07:02.640When you're a man who lives on how much it costs to put a full tank of gas in your car, if you're a worker, if you're a plumber, if you're a carpenter, you've crushed tens of millions of people.
00:07:17.840That is only possible if you hate the nation in which you live.
00:08:16.820I think one of the most interesting things that happened with conservatives is this idea that they found a common man who's not a part of the elite to champion their causes.
00:08:24.400And it happens to be a billionaire real estate mogul from New York City that was essentially born with a silver spoon.
00:08:33.000When you talk about, like, I mean, we could go into family stuff.
00:08:37.260I think it's interesting that people are so critical about Hunter Biden when Kushner is signing multibillion-dollar deals with Saudi Arabia when Kushner was working in an official deal.
00:08:44.200Hold on, but that's more aboutism, right?
00:08:46.600That's not like Hunter Biden could be a bad guy and Jared Kushner could be doing whatever you say he's doing.
00:08:53.700It's not a one aboutism because it's not a defense of Hunter.
00:08:56.580I think it's more remarking that it's interesting what conservatives that are fans of Trump are selectively skeptical of.
00:09:02.060That if Biden had created a position in the White House for his son Hunter to work under and then he had sent his son to go and negotiate on behalf of the United States and then afterwards his son was signing multibillion-dollar deals for companies that he worked with, this is like Burisma but 100 million times worse because it's in the official capacity as a government worker while being related to a president who didn't divestate his business.
00:09:20.840I guess all I'm saying – sorry to interject.
00:09:52.360I would encourage my supporters to lead an insurrection on the Capitol.
00:09:55.700I would try to say that the election results weren't real.
00:09:58.420I would plan that the election was fake before even coming into office, which he did before his first term.
00:10:03.840I'd probably start to gain notoriety or popularity in the political world by suggesting that the current president was born in Kenya, not the United States.
00:10:10.620A lot of people forget, but that's how Trump initially picked up his popularity.
00:10:14.320It was with the birth certificate stuff with Barack Obama.
00:10:18.460I think that when you talk about like wanting to fundamentally change this country, I don't think Biden wants to do that.
00:10:23.000I think Biden genuinely loves the United States.
00:10:24.760I look at somebody like Donald Trump who undermines basically every single part of this country, whether it's the legal and judicial system, whether it's trust in the voting process, whether it's NATO, whether it's U.S. impressions or the U.S. reputation abroad.
00:10:40.260Yeah, I think that Trump fundamentally has no respect for any part of this country.
00:10:44.200That's why he suggested suspending the Constitution so that he could look for voter fraud.
00:10:47.600It's why before getting elected, he said that people that burn the flag are one of our most important First Amendment protected rights should have their citizenship stripped from them, which is insane.
00:10:55.800And I would also probably try to undermine the current sitting president and the current sitting Congress by telling them that they're not allowed to get things done on the border because if we keep that as a real problem, it'll help me in the next election cycle.
00:11:06.380Which is why we weren't able to pass any bipartisan border legislation to actually fix the asylum problem that we have right now that the current government's hands are tied on.
00:11:16.100I just, most of that is just absolutely risible.
00:11:19.320He loves himself more than anything, any other human being on the planet.
00:11:23.440Yeah, that's why he's facing 730 years in prison right now, because he wants to be president again.
00:11:32.080He could have just gone off back to his private life, running his businesses.
00:11:37.460But no, he actually said a few days ago, I'm prepared to go to jail and make that sacrifice any day because the Constitution is more important than my freedom.
00:11:47.180That sounds like a very selfish individual.
00:11:49.700Do you not think, though, I think it's a fair critique to say that Donald Trump is narcissistic and so he would want to go back because he feels that he was badly treated.
00:12:00.920The reason he didn't get re-elected was the election was stolen and he wants to show the world that he's, it's a personal ambition project rather than.
00:12:10.820Well, some people want to sacrifice themselves so everyone can see how they've been badly treated because they're so obsessed with, you know, looking right.
00:12:19.200I'm glad we're so good at psychoanalyzing people from the outside.
00:12:22.360Just saying, that's what a lot of people would think.
00:12:30.960This is an attempt to steal an election before any vote is cast.
00:12:34.080Whether it's the Fannie Willis corrupt prosecutor in Georgia, whether it's the person, Letitia James or Alvin Bragg, funded by George Soros during their campaigns, because sadly we elect these people in America, and who campaigned, campaigned on putting President Trump in prison.
00:56:43.180There was a huge report that was done by the United States analyzing the failures for why that fell so fast.
00:56:47.680And part of it was because the United States had negotiated away some of the land that was previously controlled by the Afghanistan government to the Taliban.
00:56:53.300And we didn't even tell the Taliban about that.
00:56:54.880So the Taliban would roll into cities and say, by the way, we agreed to this.
00:56:57.680And the United States said we could have this.
00:56:59.640And at some point, the Afghanistan army was like, screw this.
00:57:01.560And they just started to end whole retreat from these areas.
00:57:11.520And by the way, it's interesting that even though we're all three from different kind of ways of seeing the world, actually on Ukraine, there's quite a lot of agreement in this room, ironically.
00:57:20.000But there are a lot of people on your side who have bought this idea that this is Ukraine.
00:57:24.980The reason the war in Ukraine happened is that Russia was provoked.
00:57:28.340It was provoked by the expansion of NATO.
00:57:30.540It was provoked by the giving of weaponry to Ukraine.
00:57:33.900So what would you say to the people who say, well, yeah, Donald Trump gave stuff to the Ukrainians and that's why Russia invaded.
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00:58:16.500You know, there's me, Dennis Prager and, you know, Claiborne and Mark Levin.
00:58:19.480That's about, you know, the three conservatives who are strong on Ukraine.
00:58:22.860We reject the Tuckerite isolationism, the Neo Buchananite isolationism.
00:58:28.380But the whole, I mean, you're the expert.
00:58:30.080You're the guy who translates Putin's speeches immediately when they're given.
00:58:34.280This hoary canard that we encircled Russia or that U.S. presidents have provoked this great champion of Western, you know, Christendom called Vladimir Putin is asinine.
00:58:49.700I mean, you know better than anyone for 22 years since he became premier, Vladimir Putin has been giving speeches on the fact that Ukraine, Poland, the Baltic states are all legitimate and need to be parts of Russia.
00:58:59.480He's been planning this ever since he, you know, walked into the palace in Moscow.
00:59:07.880My mom came from Cuba and my mom and dad were in the Air Force.
00:59:11.440When I grew up, my parents hated China and Russia for understandable reasons.
00:59:16.300My mom flew on the looking glass mission, looking for basically nuclear missiles, doomsday, end of the world type stuff.
00:59:21.480And yeah, the fall of the Soviet Union, the Iron Curtain was a monumentous thing in the world.
00:59:25.020And it sounds like you have similar feelings about Russia, which I'm happy to hear.
00:59:29.320Does it bother you or does it give you pause that so many fans under Donald Trump, that so many of the people that support him seem to be so either skeptical about supporting Ukraine or fallen in support of Russia because they see them as a stronger, better country that champions Christian values better or doesn't submit to the woke mob better.
00:59:46.040And that maybe it is their right to own Ukraine and the U.S. provoke that.
00:59:49.140It bothers me that there are such voices on the putative conservative right.
00:59:54.340I have come to the conclusion they're not numerous and they have nothing to do with my former boss.
01:00:10.900It's so amusing that there are people who are such experts on the Wagner group now, right after the fake coup.
01:00:16.500We were experts on the Wagner group in the Trump administration.
01:00:20.600We informed President Trump very early on that there are 300 Wagner group special forces guys running around the Middle East destabilizing the region.
01:00:57.520He didn't even hold a press conference because he was afraid of what President Trump would do next.
01:01:02.880That's what President Trump understands is the use of force.
01:01:06.080Not intervention, but when you cross a line, when you destabilize regions that are already destabilized enough.
01:01:11.960In Syria, when we informed, and this is now declassified, that there was a second chemical weapons attack being prepared by the Assad regime, what did he do?
01:01:19.480While Xi Jinping was having chocolate cake in Mar-a-Lago, he dropped 52 cruise missiles on that air base and turned it into a sheet of glass and whispered into Xi's ear,
01:01:28.540I think you should know what I just did in Syria.
01:01:30.480That was a message for Xi, for Putin, for Kim in North Korea, for the mullahs in Iran.
01:01:35.980That's why for four years, no new wars.
01:01:38.200I don't understand why you aren't happy that for four years we had no new wars under Trump.
01:01:45.340And now you think you can blame, you can blame October the 7th on Donald Trump.
01:01:51.160You can blame the invasion of Ukraine for a second time under a Democrat president on Donald Trump.
01:03:45.680There's a buildup for how these things happen.
01:03:47.320So we've talked very specifically just on one event.
01:03:49.680Also, keep in mind, when you say, like, I don't want to go into the weeds or get into a rabbit hole,
01:03:53.300it feels like it's because you know you're wrong if you actually get into the details of things.
01:03:56.220When you look at October 7th, what are things that Donald Trump did to signal how October 7th would have gone?
01:04:02.160Well, when Iran attacked Saudi Arabia, he did nothing.
01:04:05.460He showed strong support for Israel by moving the embassy to Jerusalem.
01:04:09.600And we signed the Abraham Accords, which were remediated them, which were bilateral negotiations between Israel and other Arab countries that didn't involve the Palestinians whatsoever.
01:04:19.560How do you not look at these three things and think, like, wow, I wonder if these are creating conditions that are relating to October 7th.
01:04:24.740Like, these are the types of things that lead to that type of violence.
01:12:23.000And I'm thinking Israel and Palestine.
01:12:25.500I think of the three hotbed foreign policy things right now.
01:12:27.820When I look at Joe Biden's behavior for Ukraine, I feel like it was about as well as it could have been in that we were able to gather a wide amount of support across Europe.
01:12:42.100We were able to add to our NATO roster.
01:12:44.180We were able to raise a lot of money and send stuff to Ukraine while at the same time drawing a very clear, like, listen, we're supporting them, but we're not going to have troops on the ground.
01:12:53.420Nothing that's going to set us on some road, you know, that we can't turn back from to go to World War III, but we're going to support them as much as we can, basically.
01:13:00.680I wish the support would be a little bit stronger.
01:13:02.600I understand the hesitation, though, in that they don't want Ukraine to be able to strike into Russia because there's concerns about escalatory stuff there.
01:13:08.460I wish the support was a bit stronger, but I think for the most part, I think Biden's handling of the Ukraine-Russia situation was good.
01:13:13.680Because on that issue, my perspective is slightly different in that I understand the hesitation about offering more help.
01:13:21.180And it's a lot of money and it doesn't enjoy as much domestic support as it did at the beginning of the conflict, et cetera.
01:13:26.960But I can tell you what's happening on the ground now is even though these bills are very controversial in America and they're hard to pass, that $61 billion, it's not going to make any difference on the ground.
01:13:40.600I was a very keen advocate of us helping them.
01:13:43.660I don't know that I would agree with you that that strategy is going to be effective going forward.
01:13:49.520But what I'm saying is if the current way of dealing with that situation continues, what will happen is Ukraine will keep losing hundreds of thousands of men, as Russia will.
01:13:58.960Ukrainians will lose and lose territory and eventually they will get a worse deal than the one that they might have done a year ago when the Ukrainians made huge advantages thanks to the weaponry and the support that the United States provided.
01:14:10.160So how do you think Joe Biden is likely to resolve that situation going forward?
01:14:15.840Because I will put it to you, what's happening now is not working.
01:14:19.280Okay, I haven't heard the same, but maybe we talk to different people or see different things.
01:14:23.280I've got a lot of friends that go back and forth from the front lines and I've heard there were huge complaints relating to amount of shells available or what they thought the support would look like.
01:14:30.020So, for instance, sometimes you can't advance, not because you don't have the weapons to advance, but once you advance, you don't think you have the supplies to maintain that advance.
01:14:35.540Well, that is what's happened, right? They retook territory and now they've been sliding back.
01:14:40.120Now, I'm not saying the artillery shells they're going to get now are going to make no difference, like in small situations, but on the big picture, it's not going to make any difference.
01:14:49.460Well, I mean, we've got F-16s are supposed to be online, I think, by the end of this year or maybe even in the next few months.
01:14:55.580I mean, I'll be honest. I mean, I'm not going to be delusional.
01:14:58.320Ukraine winning, I think, is still probably like a less than 50% chance thing of happening.
01:15:01.960And when I say win, I mean like at least take back Donetsk and Luhansk.
01:15:06.300But I think there's an important question to be asked about, like, who is to tell Ukraine not to fight?
01:15:12.440Like if we have the ability to supply them with weapons and if we want to stand by them for as long as they're willing to fight,
01:15:17.300doesn't that send an important message to, say, China, where we would say we would support Taiwan
01:15:21.240or we would support them in whatever capacity that we feel is responsible until we feel like the fight is completely over,
01:15:25.820rather than like, well, we're a democracy, so if you can make the war last for a couple of years, it's probably going to be unpopular.
01:15:30.600We're going to pull out, which is historically like a strength or a weakness that democracies kind of have.
01:15:34.640So I think that showing support for Ukraine is important in two ways.
01:15:37.920One is the moral way that if they want to fight, they should be enabled to.
01:15:41.540It's funny, I hear foreign people express more concern over people dying in Ukraine in this war than I've ever heard Ukrainians express.
01:15:47.720Like, I'll hear people all over the world be like, oh my God, these poor Ukrainians, they're dying.
01:15:56.520I'm very concerned about Ukrainians dying because I have family and friends on the ground.
01:16:00.380Now, at the same time, what I've always said from day one, as I think you both know, is Ukraine needs the support that we were giving them to get the best possible deal because they were always going to lose territory.
01:16:13.480So I guess what I'm saying is, how is this conflict going to come to the right, the best possible end for the Ukrainians, which is what I care about, right, under Joe Biden?
01:16:23.960How is he going to, in your opinion, resolve that?
01:16:26.700Because throwing some artillery shells at them when they get desperate every now and again doesn't seem to me like the route to what we might want for them and also for the interests of the West.
01:16:37.200Yeah, I mean, I think that the path forward is to supply them as much and as long as they're willing to fight.
01:16:42.820And then once it seems like the fight is done or Ukrainians lose the will to fight or it's basically positioned itself into a war where no gains are being made or lost, then at that point you look for some kind of offer ever, some kind of peace deal.
01:16:55.560So Ukrainians would obviously, Ukraine would negotiate with Russia with somebody mediating.
01:16:59.520I don't even know who would mediate that.
01:17:00.540But I mean, that's basically all you can do.
01:17:03.980I don't know significantly more, I guess, what the U.S. could do in that case.
01:17:07.580Well, I guess what American people, I imagine, would want to know is, like, if we vote for Joe Biden again, how is he going to make this problem go away?
01:17:15.520I guess that's how most people would just be thinking about it.
01:17:17.620Well, I mean, unfortunately, it's not.
01:18:31.240So what I'm hearing from you is if the United States votes for Joe Biden, he will continue to give them support at the level that he can muster in order that they can keep fighting or not, depending on what they want.
01:18:59.120Oh, for Biden, like, I mean, I think that Biden has done a good job at providing support for an ally, which I think is always important because the United States needs to be seen as supporting people they say they'll support, while also trying to rein in Israel a bit.
01:19:10.120Um, so I think we were saying that, um, I don't know how true these conversations are, but as of recently, I think Biden was telling Israel that, like, if there's a huge Rafa raid, if a bunch of people start dying, like, we're going to start to condition some of this military aid.
01:19:22.740Um, I know that initially when they announced their invasion on the 7th, I think that we encouraged them, like, you need to wait and chill for people to actually move out of northern Gaza before you guys start attacking.
01:19:32.460Um, I know we've pressured them a lot to allow more humanitarian aid in, uh, that Eretz Crossing opening, I think was a really good thing.
01:19:38.960The port, the humanitarian aid port that's being built by the United States, um, so the Navy Corps, the Engineering Corps, um, I think that was a really good idea.
01:19:46.120I would hope to see more of that, but I also imagine that this conflict is probably going to be mostly done by election season.
01:19:51.660Um, the Rafa invasion is happening, and then after that, I don't know what else there is to do in, uh, the Gaza Strip, but I feel like, uh, whatever, whatever that situation looks like afterwards, um, whether that's Israel occupied,
01:20:02.460Gaza for some short period of time or whatever, I think it looks better under Biden, because I think Biden is more likely to tell Israel, like, hey, like, you're not going to start building settlements here, or, hey, you're not going to do this or that, because he's already sanctioned some people in the West Bank who are building outposts.
01:20:15.040Um, I think that Biden would have a better handle on controlling Ukraine there, um, rather than Trump, who I feel would, would give a little bit more unconditional support.
01:20:22.660Controlling Israel, I think. I don't know if I just said Ukraine.
01:20:51.520Electing Donald Trump is the only way to do that, but, um, if the people of the United States elect President Trump again to be their leader, you said the world is on fire.
01:21:00.100How is he going to extinguish those fires and bring peace to the world?
01:21:05.120Well, at the risk of talking about what I did in the White House, because they're just stories, but, you know, I think they matter historically.
01:21:31.020Bad guys around the world were petrified.
01:21:34.180Good guys felt safe, whether it's Israel, the UK, NATO nations, they understood American leadership was back.
01:21:41.040With regards to specific conflicts, President Trump has said what he's going to do in the Ukraine.
01:21:45.760He will end the fighting very rapidly by behind closed doors saying to Zelensky, look, I know you want your country back, but you have to sit down and negotiate.
01:21:58.220It is, you know, it has to happen now and I'll help you.
01:22:00.800And then he says to Vladimir Putin, the obverse of what you were positing, he says, you need to sit down now with Kiev or the aid we have given already will be minuscule to what I'm going to give Zelensky.
01:22:19.040Because this is an important thing to tease out.
01:22:21.740That is one of the reasons that I, that to me seems like a credible way of solving that conflict.
01:22:26.740I've said this from day one, whoever does that deal has to go in with a carrot and a stick.
01:22:33.000How is Donald Trump going to go in there and make the claim that he will quadruple or 10x the aid that's already been given to Ukraine when half his own party basically supports Russia at this point?
01:22:53.620Because he's made a measure of this man for four years.
01:22:58.000He understands that this isn't about bluff.
01:23:00.160When you decide to use chemical weapons, we'll turn your chemical weapons base into a sheet of glass.
01:23:05.360If you're planning to kill 600 US servicemen in the Middle East, we'll kill you with a drone as you're on your way to meet the puppet prime minister of Iraq.
01:23:15.580That's what we did to Qasem Soleimani.
01:23:19.960Yes, but I'm just saying if Putin is thinking about a logic, which I believe he is, then he will say, look, Donald Trump is saying to me he's going to throw the kitchen sink and give everything Ukraine that they possibly could get.
01:23:32.700But at the same time, I see the internal divisions that we've talked about already.
01:23:37.460How is Donald Trump going to sell this to his own party when half of the people involved are really against helping Ukraine at all?
01:23:46.460And that seems to me like a not particularly credible threat, even if it's coming from Donald Trump.
01:23:51.440But again, you're mixing open political communications with what is done behind closed doors.
01:24:00.260He doesn't have to go to Congress and say, I'm about to tell Vlad this and you better back me up.
01:24:08.040What I'm saying is, let's say that they are sitting behind closed doors.
01:24:11.340Why would Vladimir Putin believe the threat if he knows that Donald Trump can't then go back and actually sell the 10x of support to his own people?
01:24:19.620Because it's a risky bet to say, you know, he can't communicate this to his base and I'm not going to take him seriously.
01:25:34.120But I don't think the isolationists can go up against President Trump and say, yeah, sorry, you won the election, you're the president, but we're going to, you know, we're not behind you.
01:25:44.660You think he can take the party with him on that?
01:25:46.400I think he can, but I think the more important thing is he can convince Putin behind closed doors that, dude, don't risk it.
01:25:57.240And with regards to everything else, it's really quite amusing now that we're six months away from the election.
01:26:01.700I'm doing more and more international media.
01:26:03.880And when, you know, the news agency of Sweden or Poland or whatever comes and they say, so what's it going to be like if President Trump wins?
01:26:11.000And I always say, were you alive when he was president?
01:26:18.360So whether it's China policy, it's going to be a very forthright, robust economic trade war with China.
01:26:24.400Whether it's the Mueller's, it's going to be, you know, the swinging sanctions regime we put in place that almost had the whole of the economy of the IRGC on its knees by the end of the Trump administration.
01:26:36.200With regards to NATO, we'll be back to what the current Secretary General Stoltenberg, who is a former left-wing prime minister and minister of the environment said, is absolutely what it should be with increased spending and every member meeting its 2% of GDP target force goals.
01:26:54.000So if you want to know what it's going to be like, it'll be like the Trump administration the first time around with the special edition of the deal with Vladimir Putin to scare him into negotiating.
01:27:07.200And then with regards to Israel, Israel, it's pretty obvious.
01:27:10.000This is the most philostemitic president since 1948 and the rebirth of Israel.
01:27:14.020And I expect President Trump to give Israel everything they need.
01:27:18.780And how will he look to settle that issue long term?
01:27:23.460Because obviously that's an ongoing conflict.
01:27:27.980I feel like the world has come to a point where everyone is horrified by what they're seeing, irrespective of, you know, what their political position is.
01:27:38.400The fact that that conflict is happening is horrific and it has reached horrific levels of mass killing, right?