00:02:35.240And they asked Americans, would you not vote for a black person referring to Obama? Would you not vote for a female referring to Hillary? On the Republican side, would you not vote for a Mormon referring to Mitt Romney who was competing for the nomination? Would you not vote for somebody who would be 72 years old when he became president referring to the aging John McCain?
00:02:57.120Gallup found 5% of Americans said they would not, under any circumstances, vote for a black person.
00:03:02.60011% said they would not vote for a female.
00:03:05.14024% said they would not vote for a Mormon.
00:03:07.420And 42% of Americans in 2007 said they would not vote for somebody who would be 72 years old when he became president.
00:03:14.340So Obama had a lower hurdle, an easier path to the White House than these three white politicians who were far more well-funded and far more experienced and far better known.
00:03:27.180So don't give me this crap about how Obama somehow made a statement about how fair America is.
00:03:34.020America has been fair for a very, very long period of time, and he simply benefited from the changing racial attitudes that Americans have engaged in for decades.
00:04:04.040What about every time a police officer shoots someone?
00:04:06.940You know, we just had a case we're talking about.
00:04:09.520A girl is stabbing another girl. Police officer arrives on the scene, shoots the soul, the person doing the soul.
00:04:17.240And he's now the target. LeBron James is targeting him with tweets. Well, that's what I'm talking about.
00:04:21.920OK, yeah. The reaction to the allegation of systemic racism is far more serious than the actual presence of systemic racism.
00:04:29.080That's what's going on here. Let's just take police, for example.
00:04:31.660You're right about these riots that took place in our street for four consecutive months.
00:04:36.080a police officer an individual police officer was accused of murdering an individual named
00:04:42.680george floyd nothing more nothing less but the media the democrats uh and um and politicians
00:04:48.840have used this to further their own interest the media does it for ratings the politicians do it
00:04:53.220for votes because as long as you've been convinced 13 of the population and that's the black
00:04:59.000population that they are oppressed that they're persecuted by the dastardly white man whether it's
00:05:03.860Republicans, Donald Trump, or the police, they're going to get 95% or so of black people to march
00:05:09.280in there like lemmings and pull that lever for the Democratic Party. When you look at the numbers,
00:05:13.380it paints a very different picture. There are roughly 50 million civilian police interactions
00:05:19.900in America every year and a population of around 350 million people. That results into 11 million
00:05:26.000arrests. 60,000 officers are assaulted every year, and last year between 50 and 60 officers
00:05:32.340were killed by civilians. Out of all of that, the police kill on average, according to the
00:05:37.760Washington Post, 1,000 people per year. 500 of them are white, 250 of them are black. So the
00:05:44.460police kill twice as many whites as they kill blacks, and the police kill more unarmed whites
00:05:48.560every year than they kill unarmed blacks. It's that the media does not care when an unarmed
00:05:52.720white person is killed, but when an unarmed black person is killed, they act as if it's some sort of
00:05:56.840referendum on the police. In fact, out of the 7,000 homicide victims last year, black, and that's 50%
00:06:03.820of the total homicide victims in America, out of 13% of the population come 50% of the homicide
00:06:09.180victims. That's roughly 7,000 black homicide victims last year. Out of that number, the number
00:06:15.360of black unarmed people killed by cops, one third of one percent. Most blacks in America are killed
00:06:23.800by other blacks just as most whites in america when they're killed are killed by other whites
00:06:27.860it is a lie that the police are engaging in some sort of systemic racism against black people
00:06:32.360it has been studied for decades there's a very long piece in the washington post dated
00:06:38.680specifically april 27 2016 i know that because that's my birthday april 27 not the 2016 part
00:06:44.320but um a long article about the uh series of tests and interviews with officers going back
00:06:50.780over decades showing, if anything, the police are more hesitant, more reluctant to pull the trigger
00:06:56.680on a black suspect than a white suspect. There are a group of researchers from a university called
00:07:01.380Washington State University. They've done this experiment over decades, three different times,
00:07:06.300spaced over several years. Each time, same result. The cops are three times more hesitant to pull
00:07:12.780the trigger on a black suspect than a white suspect. The number one cause of preventable
00:07:17.840death for young whites in America is accidents, like car accidents. The number one cause of
00:07:24.180preventable death for young Blacks in America is homicide. A young Black man is eight to ten times
00:07:29.400more likely to be a victim of a homicide than a young white man. That's why the cops are there.
00:07:34.740It is an absolute lie that the police are engaging in systemic racism against Blacks. And it's not
00:07:40.000just a harmless lie, it's a dangerous lie, because what happens is the police pull back when they're
00:07:45.820victim to these false accusations. It's called the Ferguson effect, and now it's called the
00:07:51.540George Floyd effect, where every time one of these high-profile shootings take place and the
00:07:55.880cops are falsely accused of engaging in systemic racism, the police pull back and they just respond
00:08:01.660to radio calls. They don't drive around looking to be proactive. Why should they? They're going
00:08:06.440to put themselves in the middle of something. They could be accused of racism. So to hell with it.
00:08:10.820Crime goes up. Bad guys know it. They're out in the streets. And what happens is young black men
00:08:16.480are coached, trained to believe that the police are out to get them. So when you're pulled over
00:08:21.960and you're a young black man, instead of it being just an ordinary police stop, it escalates into
00:08:26.460something far more serious because you don't believe that the officer is there to protect
00:08:30.520and serve. You believe that the officer is an enemy. So what you're doing is training young
00:08:34.940black people not to cooperate. And therefore, these incidents escalate into something far
00:08:39.720were deadly. Virtually every one of these incidents, guys, whether it's Eric Gardner in
00:08:44.100New York or Michael Brown in Ferguson or George Floyd in Minneapolis or Jacob Blake in Atlanta,
00:08:52.120virtually every one of these things would have been avoided had the young black men simply
00:08:56.240complied. And if they felt that they were mistreated, get a name, get a bad number and
00:09:00.620resolve it later on. Instead, the so-called leaders, including Joe Biden, are throwing
00:09:05.220gasoline on all of this by lying about what the police are doing and making things far, far worse.
00:09:11.600So the reaction to the allegation of systemic racism, gentlemen, is far, far worse than the
00:09:17.040actual presence of systemic racism. Now, you say that, Larry, and, you know, it's a very,
00:09:22.500very good point. When we look at what happened with George Floyd, that was a very, very, you
00:09:28.060know, shocking incident, particularly for people, for us in the UK. Do you think that that is just
00:09:34.480a one-off or unfortunately do you get bad apples in in the american police force and that this
00:09:41.160happens every once in a while well i think in every organization you're going to have bad apples
00:09:45.760uh maybe one percent of all police officers are like that the most horrific scandal in la history
00:09:52.800is called the rampart scandal if you remember the movie that denzel washington starred in called
00:09:57.160training day it was all about uh and inspired by the so-called rampart scandal which was a big big
00:10:02.680scandal. It involved a grand total of 70 police officers out of the police force of close to
00:10:09.02010,000. So it was less than 1%. Now, anything north of zero is too many, and one officer can
00:10:15.640do a great deal of damage and damage the reputation of the other 99%, and we have to
00:10:21.600deal with it. But to act as if it's some sort of broad-based performance on the part of the police
00:10:28.100is extremely unfair. Even in the George Floyd case, in the prosecution's opening statement,
00:10:34.100the prosecutor said, a black man, by the way, said that the Minneapolis Police Department is not on
00:10:38.760trial. This particular individual officer is on trial for allegedly murdering this particular
00:10:43.920individual named George Floyd. Nothing more, nothing less. It's the media that takes this
00:10:48.900and acts as if it's some sort of referendum on America in general and on the police in particular
00:10:53.820when it is nothing of the sort. These things should be dealt with on a case-by-case basis.
00:10:58.420I gave a speech once before a bunch of football students at Ohio State University. I was invited
00:11:02.300by the then coach. And he had a Black Lives Matter proponent in the month before that stirred
00:11:08.860them all up, made them all angry. And he asked me if I would come in and give my point of view.
00:11:13.180And I did. And there must have been about 100 football players. And I said, you can probably
00:11:18.620name the blacks who have been killed by the police. And I rattled off some of the names.
00:11:22.160and I said are you aware there are more unarmed whites every year killed by the police than
00:11:26.180unarmed blacks and I said name one and I dropped my mic and I crossed my hands like this and the
00:11:32.760room was silent for 20 seconds because nobody could think of anybody I can think of several
00:11:36.600unarmed whites who've been killed over the years because this is what I do but they didn't know a
00:11:40.340single one of them I got a phone call the other day from a woman named Gloria from Dallas Texas
00:11:45.020Larry she's angry at me you're always talking about uh how the police kill unarmed whites
00:11:52.000I can't think of a time when the police stood on an unarmed white person and put them in the street like that and treated them the way they did George Floyd.
00:11:58.720And I said, Gloria, Gloria, you're in Dallas.
00:12:01.7002016, Google a man named Tony Tempa, T-I-M like Mary, P like Paul A.
00:15:05.480had never done any work on police shootings of blacks.
00:15:09.480But because of the high profile stuff,
00:15:11.460He just knew that the police were using disproportionate deadly force against black people and thought he would do a survey to prove this.
00:15:20.580And he said the results were the most surprising of his professional career.
00:15:24.480Again, not only were the police not killing blacks because they were black, the police were more hesitant, more reluctant to pull the trigger on a black suspect than a white suspect.
00:15:31.880He did find, however, that the police were 18 to 20 times more likely to use non-deadly force on a black suspect than a white suspect.
00:15:41.460I have two reactions to that. The first is 18% is not a whole lot more. But more importantly, isn't that because they don't want to get to the point where they're using deadly force? So therefore, they're using non-deadly force more frequently on a black suspect not to get to the point where they're at DEFCON 1. That's probably what's going on. When you talk to cops, that's what they tell you. We do not want to use deadly force on a black person. That's the last thing we want to do. As a result, very likely they're using non-deadly force probably more urgently on a black suspect than on a white suspect.
00:16:10.540If that's what's going on, I don't find that a bad thing.
00:16:15.020And if that is the case, then why is it that we get the President of the United States
00:16:20.840talk about systemic racism, you get Kamala Harris talking about systemic racism,
00:16:26.380the police are institutionally racist, why is this happening then?
00:18:22.760Never mind the damage these lies do to Black people.
00:18:27.120The number one problem facing Black America is not systemic racism.
00:18:30.620It's not inequality. It's the fact that 70 percent, 70 percent of black kids are raised or brought into this world without a father in the home.
00:18:41.080And Barack Obama once said a kid without a father is five times more likely to be poor and commit crimes, nine times more likely to drop out of school, 20 times more likely to end up in jail.
00:18:52.180Now, the question is, why has America gone from having 25 percent of young black boys brought into the world without a father, 25 percent in 1965 to 70 percent right now?
00:19:03.280And I argue, gentlemen, it is the welfare state.
00:19:06.140The welfare state has incentivized women to marry the government and has allowed men to abandon their financial and moral responsibility.
00:19:14.120It is particularly hit hard in the black community, but not just the black community.
00:19:18.50050 percent of Hispanic kids were raised without fathers.
00:19:20.720And I mentioned in 1965, 25% of black kids were.
00:31:17.000America spends more money, K-12, than any other country in the world other than Luxembourg and Switzerland, where we're getting lousy results.
00:31:44.860Don't have a kid until you get married.
00:31:46.520get a job, keep a job, don't quit that job until you get another one, and avoid the criminal
00:31:51.460justice system. You do that, the percentage of people who are in poverty is single digits.
00:31:56.600You don't do that, the percentage of people who are in poverty is in double digits, close to 50%.
00:32:00.820That's the formula for success. You don't follow that, I don't know what to tell you.
00:32:05.700But if somebody doesn't have somebody at home in order to keep them on the straight to narrow,
00:32:11.720You know, I'm a former teacher. I've seen it myself time and time again.
00:32:15.560It comes a point, especially in a boy's life, where mom can't control him anymore.
00:32:20.780We're 13, 14 years old. He gets physically bigger than mom.
00:32:24.800He says, you know what? I'm going to go out. There's nothing that you can do to stop me.
00:32:28.280Right. And that's where mentors come in. And that's where programs come in.
00:32:32.500And there are lots of programs, big boys, big brothers, big sisters.
00:32:35.780Get involved. There are lots of people right now who are retired.
00:32:38.460People are retiring earlier, and they're healthier and more vigorous. I urge all these people to get involved. I've been doing radio for about 30 years, guys, and I've tried to get Jesse Jackson on my program. He won't come on. Maxine Waters won't come on. Minister Farrakhan won't come on. Al Sharpton won't come on. But one of these so-called Black leaders did come on. His name is Kawase Mfume. At the time, he was president of the NAACP. Before that, he was a member of the House from Baltimore, and now he's back in the House from Baltimore.
00:33:06.040And I said, Mr. Infume, as between the presence of white racism or the absence of black fathers, which poses a bigger problem in the black community, to his credit, without missing a beat, he said the absence of black fathers.
00:33:18.380We need to shower the community with role models, with leaders, with men who've raised their families who are now retired and can use their knowledge and advice and wisdom to help other people.
00:33:32.680Again, if there's nobody in your house to tell you to go to bed on time and to make sure you've done your homework, I have no other answers for you other than you've got to do that.
00:33:43.380You have to pick up your cards and play them to the best of your ability.
00:33:48.240And anybody that tells you other than to do that is engaging, in my opinion, in a horrific disservice to these young Black people who need to hear a positive voice and to see a positive vision.
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00:35:06.640Larry, you talk about doing a disservice.
00:35:09.040One of the things that I find really troubling about the times we're in and the way that these conversations are being had is everything has now become about race.
00:35:17.320And, you know, growing up, I was a huge Michael Jordan fan.
00:35:20.360I was born in Russia from a sort of Russian Jewish background.
00:35:24.400not black, clearly, right? And it never occurred to me that Michael Jordan was black because he
00:35:30.200was just a great man who I found inspirational. And I just wonder if I have a son now who's 12,
00:35:36.48013, playing basketball as I did as a kid, I don't think there's any possibility for him to have that
00:35:41.120pure, unadulterated experience. Does it concern you that we're so obsessed with this issue now?
00:35:47.140Absolutely. I've said race has never been less significant a factor in American success
00:35:54.080But it's never been a more significant factor for the Democratic Party success. And that's what's going on. You mentioned Michael Jordan. Remember the dream team in the 90s? They went around, they clobbered the whole world. They won games by 50, 60, 70 points.
00:36:08.100They're not winning those games like that by that margin anymore because the rest of the world raised their game.
00:36:15.160We didn't lower the hoop. They raised their game. Black Americans need to raise their game.
00:36:21.400Again, as long as we're spending way less time doing homework every night than white kids and way less time every every night doing homework than Asian American kids,
00:36:31.160while being perfectly willing to go to the gym and practice the jump throw 500 times a night, we're in trouble.
00:36:37.100most kids are not going to become basketball players you're going to do it the way i did
00:36:41.340getting an education go to college get a job and work your way up in your career
00:36:45.380that's what we ought to be telling people but we're not and how's that how's that message
00:36:49.900getting through larry well it's not getting through when you have a shooting like this
00:36:54.540and you have somebody like lebron james who lives in the gated community saying quote black people
00:36:58.980are afraid to leave their homes close book you're not helping anything uh when i just now got off
00:37:03.880from watching CNN, and they had an educator on who talked about the importance of putting time
00:37:11.080into educating. And he's got a nonprofit that's only done by donations that graduate 100% of kids
00:37:18.760on to colleges. And he talks about how hard this is and why this is important. And the two CNN
00:37:24.740hosts said, yes, it's very good not to hear a bunch of negative stuff. Well, you're the one
00:37:29.000putting out the negative stuff. When George Floyd got killed, that was 24-7. Meanwhile, a few days
00:37:35.600ago, a two-year-old toddler shot in the head, black toddler, by another black person, and Kamala
00:37:41.660Harris was in Chicago the following day on some sort of Joe Biden infrastructure initiative. She
00:37:46.720didn't mention it, nor would she even ask about it. In Chicago, which is a third black, a third
00:37:51.400white, and a third Hispanic, 80% of the homicides black on black. Kamala Harris did not say one
00:37:57.160worried about that. Baltimore has a murder rate three times higher than the murder rate in Chicago,
00:38:02.500even though Chicago has the greatest absolute numbers of homicides every year. But Chicago,
00:38:07.540last year there were 400 homicides, 90% of them black on black in a city of roughly 65% black
00:38:13.180people. St. Louis, 45% black people, 300 homicides last year, 90% black on black. Where's Kamala
00:38:20.080Harris? Where's Joe Biden on that? Not a damn thing, but you let a white cop shoot a black
00:38:24.300person, and they're ready to march on Washington. It's misdirection. It's causing energy and
00:38:29.120attention to be diverted away from K-12 schools. There are 13 public high schools in Baltimore
00:38:35.420where 0% of kids can do math at grade level, and another half a dozen where only 1% can.
00:38:42.520Yet the Democratic Party is opposed to vouchers so that the money can follow the child rather than
00:38:47.540the other way around. So maybe a parent living next door to a school where only 13% of the kids
00:38:52.140can do math at grade level can put that kid into a better school so that kid can have a better
00:38:56.000possibility. The Democrats are on the wrong side of that issue. And for some reason, black people
00:39:01.000still pull that lever 95% for them, even though the number one route to escaping poverty is a
00:39:06.700quality education. And Larry, I agree with you on the issue when it comes to education. It is a
00:39:13.560number one. It's the only way for the vast majority of kids who come from a deprived background to
00:39:19.320get out of that situation but why is it that we can't have sensible discussions about this topic
00:39:25.580we have the same problem in the UK we recently had a race report commissioned by a conservative
00:39:31.040government yeah and all of a sudden it just descended into name calling you know all these
00:39:37.760people who were who were on the commission very very notable people very well respected people
00:39:44.740a lot of whom were black conservatives, had horrible epithets hurled at them.
00:39:49.000Why can we not have a simple, honest and rational discussion about a topic?
00:39:55.460Let's be fair, it doesn't just affect black people, it affects everyone.
00:40:00.040Well, the reason the left does not want to hear this is because if what I'm saying is true,
00:40:05.640that means the policies that the left has been pushing for the last 50 years,
00:40:09.660giving people more and more stuff to encourage them to marry the government, as I put it.
00:40:15.600They have to rethink that. That requires them to rethink everything they believe from A to Z,
00:40:21.060and that is a discussion they don't want to have. Talk about cognitive dissonance. And so therefore,
00:40:26.500if you have that philosophy and anybody who disagrees with you is not only wrong,
00:40:31.680they become part of the problem. They become part of the enemy. That's why you can't have
00:40:36.160a rational discussion. I believe that the other side is wrong. The other side believes I'm not
00:40:40.980just wrong, but I am a bad human being. I'm a fundamentally bad person. When you have that
00:40:45.380kind of attitude, how in the world are you going to have a discussion? Let me just give you another
00:40:48.940example of the intolerance of the left. There is a black editor of the New York Times,
00:40:55.400arguably the most important newspaper in the world. His name is Dean Bucket, first black
00:41:00.760editor, and he's still there. One of his decisions was to hire a new columnist named
00:41:06.600Brett Stevens. He's a Republican, a Trump basher, white, the kind of Republican that New York Times
00:41:13.180often hires, the ones that will take swipes at the Republican Party. I'm not a fan of Brett
00:41:17.540Stevens, but he hired him. And Brett Stevens' first column was about his skepticism about
00:41:23.700climate change alarmism. He wasn't skeptical about climate change. The climate is always
00:41:29.140changing. He was skeptical about the extent to which it's going to have all the horrific
00:41:33.400consequences that some people claim. That was his first call. Dean McKay said people contacted the
00:41:39.480New York Times, complained, canceled their subscriptions, and he later on publicly said,
00:41:44.700I found out, quote, that the left as a general rule does not want to hear thoughtful disagreement,
00:41:53.120end quote this is the executive editor of the new york times saying the left as a general rule
00:42:00.320does not want to hear thoughtful disagreement close quote so i argue the left is the problem
00:42:06.420they don't want to hear thoughtful disagreement whether it's about climate change whether it's
00:42:11.120about uh racism whether it's about what the welfare state has done to the family they don't
00:42:16.160want to hear thoughtful disagreement so i urge my friends on the left to look into the mirror and
00:42:21.040ask yourself, do you really want to have a conversation or do you really want to just
00:42:24.500denounce the other side? And you say denounce the other side. Why is it so taboo for a black person
00:42:30.720to come out as a conservative? When you bear in mind, so when I was working, I used to,
00:42:36.260I spent a lot of my career working in South and East London with a lot of first generation
00:42:41.580African immigrants, second or third generation Caribbean. Most of the people that I encountered
00:42:47.280in those schools were socially conservative and conservative in their values as well.
00:42:53.680So why is it that it's taboo for a black person to be conservative?
00:42:58.320Again, I represent the worst nightmare for somebody on the left, somebody who believes
00:43:04.560in hard work, somebody who believes in merit, somebody who does not believe in lowering
00:43:08.620standards, somebody who's not blaming white people, somebody who recognizes that the most
00:43:13.960that shoots down a whole bunch of sacred cows on the left so i become a villain i understand that
00:43:19.720somebody once asked thomas soul why it is you don't spend your time trying to convince some
00:43:25.040of these so-called black leaders of the wrongfulness of their point of view he said i
00:43:29.640would never i would not waste my time uh trying to convince people to drop using victimhood uh to
00:43:36.560make a living as i would to try to convince the mafia to stop engaging in crime and do you think
00:43:42.100this is really part of it and it happens on the right as well but particularly on the left it
00:43:46.640seems to me that the politicians like the joe biden's and the kamala harris's and others
00:43:51.600they're sort of held hostage by the extremists in their base they're a small fringe but they're very
00:43:58.000their voices are powerful and the moment anyone steps out of line they will come down on you like
00:44:02.840a ton of bricks and then they will ruin your your reputation in the democratic party and you'll never
00:44:07.720get elected unless you bend the knee to this ideology. I think you're right. I think the real
00:44:13.240power in the Democratic Party is the so-called squad, people like AOC, and they are putting a
00:44:19.640lot of pressure on people like Joe Biden, who for the most part ran as a moderate. He would even
00:44:25.820point blank was asked about the $15 minimum wage, asked about reparations, asked about tuition for
00:44:31.060debt forgiveness, asked about whether he wants Washington, D.C. to be a state, asked about
00:44:35.420getting rid of the filibuster. He was asked specifically about all those things at some
00:44:39.140point during the campaign, and he said he was not in favor of them. Now he's probably in favor of
00:44:43.340all of them. I think he's yielded to the power of that part of the squad. That's where the base is.
00:44:49.220That's where the money is. AOC, even though she's barely been in Congress for, what, two or three
00:44:55.080years, arguably has more power than almost anybody in the House because of her social media following.
00:44:59.980So I believe that the Democratic Party is increasingly becoming beholden to the far, far left, and ultimately that's going to be their undoing in the midterm elections because I believe there's a good chance that the House will be returned to Republicans and eventually the Senate will too, which will basically stall Joe Biden's agenda, which is why I believe they're trying to do as much as they can in the first two years of Biden's administration because of the chance, the real strong chance they may lose the House come 2022.
00:45:28.560too. And do you not think as well, Larry, that part of the problem with the American system
00:45:33.240is if you're in the middle, you had Trump on one side who deeply divisive for a lot of people,
00:45:40.980you know, his rhetoric, his attitude was unpleasant. Then you had the people on the
00:45:46.000left who quite frankly seem to have gone completely tonto. And if you were a rational,
00:45:51.540sane, reasonable person, you had two dreadful options. Well, I saw it a lot differently,
00:45:56.820obviously. You know, I don't disagree with you about Trump's personality, his temperament. He's
00:46:01.680an easy person to dislike. But if you look at his policies, lower corporate taxes, lower individual
00:46:07.280taxes, same policy George W. Bush had. He was strong in national defense, same as George W. Bush.
00:46:13.640Basically, his policies were pretty standard Republican stuff, although he was far more
00:46:18.860protectionist than I think most Republicans are. And he was tougher on China than I think most
00:46:24.320Republicans expected. But basically, his point of view was a standard Republican point of view.
00:46:30.460I urge all my friends about Donald Trump to follow the example I saw once when I was watching
00:46:35.840the Golf Channel. There were these two professional golfers, guys, and they were both asked by the
00:46:41.580host, how can you tell if a golfer is a good golfer? And one golfer went through this elaborate,
00:46:46.240beautiful, detailed description of what makes a good golfer. The placement of his arms, how he
00:46:51.740locks his arm, how he swivels his hips, how he looks at the ball and all of this stuff. It was
00:46:56.280beautiful. And the other golfer had his arms folded, kind of was rolling his eyes as the
00:47:00.920other one was speaking. And the host said, well, what about you? He said, I look to see where the
00:47:06.840ball lands. I liked where the ball was landing under Donald Trump. Don't look at his swing.
00:47:13.740I didn't follow him on Twitter. He didn't follow me on Twitter because I thought he tweeted too
00:47:17.700much about stuff I didn't care about, but I cared about where the ball landed on immigration. I
00:47:22.540cared about where the ball landed on the economy, on regulations, on putting some conservatives on
00:47:27.740the courts. I cared about all of that stuff. And for my money, he deserves an A plus. In the rate,
00:47:33.420in the face of relentless hostility, 91% of the media, negative news, much of his own party
00:47:39.800negative, and still this guy persevered and barely lost the election. I remember the Americans
00:47:47.400didn't repudiate Trump's policies, they repudiated Trump's personality. The Republicans gained seats
00:47:53.920in the House when the predictions were they were going to lose it. They're supposed to get waxed
00:47:57.840in the Senate, and it held it 50-50. You look at 43,000 votes in three states, and Donald Trump
00:48:04.340remains there for another four years. It was a very close loss, and in my opinion, a few things
00:48:10.520here and there, including the failure to, the way Twitter suppressed that New York Post
00:48:18.020Hunter Biden story, around 80% of Joe Biden's voters did not, said had they known about the
00:48:24.060story, they would not have voted for Joe Biden. That would have been enough for Donald Trump to
00:48:28.620have won. So just a few little things here and there, and Donald Trump's back for four more
00:48:33.280years. So don't assume Donald Trump's defeat was a defeat of republicanism, because more
00:48:38.700Republicans control governorships than Democrats. They control more statehouse than Democrats.
00:48:44.220So the Republican Party is alive and well in America. It was Donald Trump who lost, not
00:48:48.920Republicans. And you being a black Republican, how do you explain the fact that Donald Trump,
00:48:55.480you know, for four years, we heard about how evil, racist, bigoted, xenophobic he is. And yet his
00:49:01.100share of the vote of the minority population, blacks, Latinos, et cetera, went up. How did that
00:49:07.100happen? It's called the economy. Under Donald Trump, black unemployment reached its lowest
00:49:11.940ever. Under Donald Trump, he pardoned the first black heavyweight champion of America. His name
00:49:17.040was Jack Johnson, who was tried for violating what's called the Man Act, i.e. he transported
00:49:23.440a white woman across state lines and he was persecuted. And for 15 years, people like the
00:49:28.720actor Sly Stone and Ken Burns, a documentarian, have gone to presidents, George W. Bush, Barack
00:49:36.400Obama and Donald Trump, asking all of them to pardon Jack Johnson. The only one who did it
00:49:41.160was Donald Trump. Donald Trump also signed what was called the First Step Act that allowed prisoners
00:49:47.560to have their lengthy sentences reconsidered. Some years ago, we put very long sentences for
00:49:52.800drug offenses. And under the First Step Act, again, signed by Donald Trump, some 6,000 mostly
00:49:58.000black men have had their sentences reconsidered and reduced an average of around 70 months.
00:50:03.800Donald Trump also put funding for black colleges on a permanent basis for the next 10 years.
00:50:08.200First time that's ever been done. He also expanded what are called opportunity zones.
00:50:12.020So you get tax breaks if you go into real estate in the inner city and at least one NFL player is getting rich using the very same opportunity zones that Donald Trump has put into place.
00:50:22.940So for all those reasons, his percentage of the black folk went up.
00:50:26.520The only area, major demo, black men, black women, Asian men, Asian women, Hispanic men, Hispanic women, white women, every major demo he went up in 2020 except white men.
00:50:40.920But I thought he was sending a dog whistle to race his white men.
00:50:45.260And by the way, in 2016, when he won, a prominent black pundit on CNN named Ben Jones called it white lads, that the growing number of whites in America were angry that there was a black president and they were firing back.
00:51:01.080To give you an idea of how cockeyed that analysis is, the city of over 100,000 that voted most for Donald Trump in 2016, Abilene, Texas. 80% of those in Abilene, Texas voted for Donald Trump.
00:51:16.500Guess which city shortly after Donald Trump got elected voted for its first black mayor in 138 years?
00:51:23.940So how is it that racist white people voted for Donald Trump and then the same racist white people voted for somebody who would be a mayor of their city in almost the same percentages?
00:52:09.080Yeah, I believe that the captain of the Titanic,
00:52:12.440had he known the iceberg was there, would have taken evasive action. Look, all we have to do is
00:52:18.660remind people in America of what made America great. And I think we're getting away from that.
00:52:23.660I call it the axis of indoctrination. Hollywood, media, and academia are all indoctrinating young
00:52:29.460people into believing that America is a racist hellhole, it's sexist, it's this, it's that.
00:52:34.64061% of Democrats believe all Republicans are racist slash sexist slash bigoted according to
00:52:41.860a major, major poll that I saw. And as long as half the country believes that way about the
00:52:47.260other half, we're going to be having difficulty. But when you look at what's really going on in
00:52:51.160the ground, that somebody from, somebody from poverty can make it and become very wealthy
00:52:58.180in America, in one generation, faster and easier than anywhere else in all of human history,
00:53:04.000that's really what's going on on the ground. Barack Obama, despite all of the crap he says,
00:53:08.280Things like racism is in America's DNA. If I had a son, he looked like Trayvon and all the nonsense, he said.
00:53:15.220In his final year, he gave a speech, commencement speech at a black college.
00:53:20.420And he said to these young, optimistic, eager eyed students, if you could be born anywhere at any time in history, where would it be and when would it be?
00:53:31.380And he said it would be here and now. And that is the truth.
00:53:34.640The truth is things have never been easier for somebody to become successful in America than right now, but it's never been more important for the Democrats to convince you otherwise than right now for their own power.
00:53:46.320So think for yourself. Work hard. Pick up the cards. Play them to the best of your ability and follow that millennia success sequence.
00:53:53.940Finish high school. Don't have a kid until you get married. Get a job. Avoid the criminal justice system and you will be just fine in America.
00:54:01.040Larry, I know you're all into personal responsibility, but a personal curiosity of mine is, do you think we've talked about crime in the black community, all of that sort of stuff, fatherlessness, etc.
00:54:11.180Do you think if there's if there's one thing the government can and should do is to end the war on drugs?
00:54:18.420I've never been a fan of the war on drugs.
00:54:20.820I've always felt that the that the drugs should be should be dealt with as a health problem and not a criminal justice problem.
00:54:26.540That said, don't be misled into believing that it is because of the war on drugs that so many Black people are behind bars.
00:54:33.640Maybe 15 percent or so of those behind bars, federal and state, are there for drug-related offenses.
00:54:38.800And most of those are often pled down from a more violent offense.
00:54:42.500So most people are in prison because they've hurt other people.
00:54:45.100But I agree with you. I've never believed in the war on drugs.
00:54:48.600And the war on drugs was begun as a way to get at Black people.
00:54:52.780It was perceived that a lot of young jazz musicians were smoking marijuana and were enticing white women into having sex with them.
00:55:01.360And so politicians went crazy in the 30s in these laws to get black people.
00:55:06.060So they have a racist beginning and they're having a disproportionately racial effect on black people.
00:55:12.820So I'm with you. I think the war on drugs should be rethought.
00:55:16.440And I'd agree, and I'd take your point further.
00:55:18.360You talk about most of the people are pleading down,
00:55:42.340Do you have any thoughts on why that is?
00:55:43.620I just think most Americans think that if you end the war on drugs, teenagers will start using very, very hard drugs and that the consequences of ending the war on drugs would be worse than the consequences of keeping it.
00:55:56.760That's, I think, how most people feel. Milton Friedman, the great Nobel laureate, probably 50 years ago argued against the war on drugs and talked about the corrupting influence of our criminal justice system,
00:56:07.740that you have to use snitches often in order to bust people, because most people involved in drugs,
00:56:13.540both sides of the transaction are breaking the law. So you have to use snitches in order to rat
00:56:18.000out other people, and it corrupts the entire criminal justice system. So for all those
00:56:22.180reasons, we ought to be having this conversation. But I think it's just a bridge too far for a lot
00:56:27.620of Americans. And do you think that's going to change, particularly during the time of COVID,
00:56:32.680where a lot of institutions are struggling for money,
00:56:36.880a lot of local authorities are struggling for money.
00:56:40.580Do you think people are going to see it as a way to raise tax revenue
00:56:43.140and they're going to get in the back door that way?
00:58:24.220In both cases, until this year, the student bodies were 70 percent Asian-American because both of those schools required a merit-based examination.
00:58:33.620Now they're getting rid of it because they want the student body to be more racially diverse.
00:58:38.480This is a direct assault on merit against Asian-American kids who've been busting their butts to go to these schools.
00:58:47.620But there are two Asian-American politicians who are senators, Macy Arono from Hawaii and Tammy Duckworth, Illinois.
00:58:53.580Both of them are yelling and screaming about the rise in Asian crimes, hate Asian crimes, and the rise is a small number to a small number. The real assault on the Asian American community is what's going on at Lowell High and Thomas Jefferson High in Fairfax, Virginia, and neither of these senators has said word one about that.
00:59:13.720Larry, thank you so much for coming on the show. If people want to find you online, where is the best way to do that?
00:59:18.920Larry Elder dot com. Be sure and check out my movie, Uncle Tom, on Amazon Prime, on iTunes and on Uncle Tom dot com.
00:59:27.720Follow me on Twitter at Larry Elder. Follow me on Instagram, Larry Elder Show.
00:59:32.460And by the way, Uncle Tom is also available on YouTube where I watched it.
00:59:36.340And it genuinely is a brilliant, brilliant movie.
00:59:39.100And I actually learned a lot about the history of the Republican Party, the Democratic Party and how some of the narratives we now have about that don't actually match what happened.
00:59:48.000so make sure you go and watch that movie