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00:05:57.000 Hello and welcome to a live episode of Trigonometry.

00:06:02.620 I'm Francis Foster.

00:06:03.900 I'm Constantine Kissin.

00:06:04.880 And this is a show for you if you want honest conversations

00:06:08.460 with fascinating people.

00:06:10.620 Our brilliant guest today is a progressive YouTuber.

00:06:13.040 It goes by the name of Destiny.

00:06:14.820 Please welcome him to the show.

00:06:16.720 And while we do that, Stephen is going to join us in a second.

00:06:20.240 Hey, man.

00:06:21.140 Good to see you.

00:06:23.620 Hey, what's up?

00:06:24.360 How's it going?

00:06:25.220 It's great.

00:06:25.960 You've come with the progressive hair,

00:06:27.440 so you're fully on brand.

00:06:29.160 It's good to have you.

00:06:30.700 I try my best.

00:06:31.980 Yeah, I just dyed it this weekend just for you guys.

00:06:33.580 Yeah, thank you very much.

00:06:35.440 It's very generous of you.

00:06:36.600 Before we get into the conversation,

00:06:38.300 I just remind everybody,

00:06:39.260 if you want to send in the super chat or a PayPal

00:06:41.180 with your questions for Destiny,

00:06:43.200 we'll read them out in about 45, 50 minutes.

00:06:45.640 So get those in as we're talking.

00:06:47.160 If there's something you agree with,

00:06:48.580 disagree with,

00:06:49.300 something you want us to put to him,

00:06:50.800 something you want to challenge us or him on,

00:06:52.600 get all of that in.

00:06:53.860 But Destiny, it's good to have you on, man.

00:06:55.580 A lot of our audience have been recommending you

00:06:57.580 and they've always said,

00:06:59.020 you guys say you are sort of somewhere in the middle,

00:07:01.340 but you often talk to people who lean right

00:07:03.480 or people who've made the journey from left to right.

00:07:06.220 And this is a guy who's very principled.

00:07:08.920 He believes in free speech

00:07:10.140 and he's firmly in the progressive camp.

00:07:12.540 So tell us your story.

00:07:13.700 What's been your journey through life

00:07:15.040 that leads you to be sitting here talking to us?

00:07:19.720 Real quick, before I do that,

00:07:21.080 a lot of people say my mic is really blown out right now.

00:07:23.200 So it's fairly loud, it is, yeah.

00:07:25.780 Is that on my end?

00:07:26.740 I just assume we're going to bring it down

00:07:29.460 on our end a little bit.

00:07:30.260 Okay, I gotcha, I gotcha.

00:07:31.160 Yeah, you're good.

00:07:32.080 I think you're good now.

00:07:33.340 Yeah.

00:07:34.100 For anybody who was wondering if it was actually live, 0.98

00:07:36.520 it really fucking is. 0.97

00:07:37.360 And I just assumed you really wanted to make an impression. 0.99

00:07:40.460 Yeah, I gotcha.

00:07:41.680 Okay.

00:07:42.560 Tell us your story.

00:07:43.440 Who are you?

00:07:43.740 Yeah, so basically the long and short of it is

00:07:45.760 I started streaming video games in 2010.

00:07:49.360 And in 2016, I started to get more involved politically

00:07:52.180 with the whole Trump stuff.

00:07:53.380 And everybody, I guess, felt like they needed

00:07:54.500 to get involved politically.

00:07:55.420 So I kind of jumped on that bandwagon.

00:07:57.400 I've always been, from 2016 onwards,

00:08:00.000 like pretty far left, center left,

00:08:01.520 in terms of how I've kind of argued with people.

00:08:04.100 I had a reputation for being kind of a hardcore

00:08:06.020 political debater.

00:08:07.120 And then I've kind of softened that approach.

00:08:09.560 And nowadays, I guess my goal is to just kind of like

00:08:11.520 show that people on the left and right

00:08:12.660 can have good conversations

00:08:13.540 while still being challenging and critical of one another.

00:08:16.280 That last part is usually missed from people

00:08:17.920 that claim they want to have good conversations

00:08:19.420 between the left and right.

00:08:20.960 They usually lose the critical aspect of it.

00:08:22.840 But, yeah.

00:08:24.020 Yeah, well, that's a good point.

00:08:25.180 I heard your conversation with our friend Peter Boghossian

00:08:27.480 about this very issue.

00:08:28.860 It's like, how do you have healthy conversations,

00:08:31.480 evil, not evil, even,

00:08:33.740 if you might disagree about stuff.

00:08:35.620 So I look forward to all of that with you.

00:08:38.800 And one of the things Francis mentioned to me earlier

00:08:42.540 is that you are someone,

00:08:44.320 I don't know how often this happens,

00:08:45.940 but you've gone from being more conservative

00:08:49.020 to being more left-wing over the course of your life.

00:08:51.740 So tell us about that.

00:08:53.940 I mean, I grew up in a Republican household.

00:08:55.960 My parents were huge Bush fans.

00:08:58.460 So I kind of grew up in that whole era of,

00:09:00.800 you know, loving Bush, loving the Iraq War,

00:09:02.740 loving the whole kind of neocon establishment.

00:09:04.920 And then as I got older

00:09:06.660 and as I started to earn more money,

00:09:08.420 I kind of started to see how different the world was

00:09:10.400 from a very wealthy perspective

00:09:12.080 versus a not-so-wealthy perspective.

00:09:13.500 And I kind of noticed that a lot of stuff

00:09:15.880 feels a little unfair.

00:09:17.300 And that kind of moved my perspective

00:09:18.680 a bit more to the left.

00:09:21.660 That's really interesting

00:09:22.960 because normally when,

00:09:25.580 because part of it was when you had your son,

00:09:27.940 wasn't it, Destiny?

00:09:29.640 That was a real kind of...

00:09:31.200 Yeah, the lens through which I view his life

00:09:33.020 is pretty insane.

00:09:33.760 There's so many unearned advantages that he has

00:09:35.580 just because I'm wealthy that he,

00:09:37.380 like, yeah, other children don't have available to them.

00:09:39.300 And when I kind of see stuff like that,

00:09:40.660 it makes me, yeah,

00:09:43.500 it makes me look at the world a little differently.

00:09:45.400 That's so curious to me

00:09:46.540 because I had a son six months ago

00:09:48.720 and I'm not going to lie, 0.97

00:09:50.240 I want the absolute fucking best for him 0.97

00:09:52.520 that I can possibly provide. 0.95

00:09:54.600 And if I can get some more unearned privilege

00:09:57.120 in his bank, in his locker,

00:09:59.080 I would love to do more of that.

00:10:01.820 Yeah, I mean, I'd feel the same way.

00:10:03.120 Yeah.

00:10:04.620 So you would like him to accumulate

00:10:07.940 as much unearned privilege as possible?

00:10:09.820 Yeah, of course.

00:10:10.380 I mean, that's like our goal, right?

00:10:11.340 Like, I bought a house in the best school district.

00:10:13.120 You know, I make sure that he's, like,

00:10:14.120 provided for as well as possible.

00:10:15.380 Like, yeah, I mean,

00:10:16.280 we want to provide our children

00:10:17.300 the most they can get.

00:10:19.220 It just, it makes me look at the world

00:10:21.280 a little bit differently

00:10:21.940 when I can see how different his life might be

00:10:23.560 versus the life of another child

00:10:24.820 when the two haven't really done anything different

00:10:26.660 to earn or not earn, you know,

00:10:28.600 different lifestyles.

00:10:30.200 And what does a progressive say

00:10:31.740 should happen about that then?

00:10:34.120 I guess, like, the standard progressive lines

00:10:36.160 are usually some greater form of wealth allocation

00:10:40.880 to, I don't know, like, underprivileged schools

00:10:42.740 or making sure children have, I guess, food,

00:10:45.520 you know, like, free lunches

00:10:46.960 or free meals during class.

00:10:49.260 Whatever, I guess, whatever parts

00:10:50.660 you can allocate money towards

00:10:51.660 to kind of, like, help underprivileged children,

00:10:53.800 you know, at least have the same economic

00:10:55.220 or socioeconomic opportunities

00:10:56.480 as more wealthier children.

00:10:59.560 That's really interesting.

00:11:00.880 So, so it's, it's a free school meals aspect.

00:11:03.920 And bear in mind, I'm a former teacher, Destiny.

00:11:06.140 So everybody have a drink. 0.99

00:11:07.720 He says that every fucking episode. 0.99

00:11:09.840 So I've seen that. 1.00

00:11:11.460 So it's free school meals.

00:11:13.260 What else is it?

00:11:13.920 Well, well, just around children

00:11:17.000 or for the entirety of society or?

00:11:19.600 Well, not just around children,

00:11:21.240 but around society as a whole.

00:11:24.620 Are you asking me for, like,

00:11:26.160 what is my go-to policy list?

00:11:27.780 Or like, what is the general progressive?

00:11:28.880 No, no, no, I think he's asking

00:11:30.240 in the context of unearned privilege

00:11:32.100 and particularly education,

00:11:34.220 what are the things that you think are important?

00:11:37.380 Well, I guess, so when I think of education,

00:11:39.260 in my mind, education is supposed to be

00:11:41.840 the great equalizer.

00:11:43.260 If you go to school, if you show up

00:11:45.200 and if you put in your hardest work

00:11:46.900 you can every day,

00:11:47.780 there should be, like, a good reward

00:11:48.980 waiting for you at the end.

00:11:50.420 So making sure that, like, every schools

00:11:52.060 or all schools have the same opportunities

00:11:53.980 available to their children

00:11:54.840 who are there to take advantage

00:11:56.220 of the opportunities, I think, is a good start.

00:11:57.840 So, like, one thing that I thought

00:11:59.240 was interesting was over the pandemic

00:12:00.980 in the United States,

00:12:02.420 in my child's school,

00:12:04.080 every single kid was issued, like,

00:12:05.640 an iPad and a laptop.

00:12:07.180 And for a lot of children

00:12:08.300 living in the United States,

00:12:09.720 not only do they not have that,

00:12:11.500 a lot of these kids don't even have

00:12:12.460 internet access to their homes.

00:12:13.900 So that would be, like, one example

00:12:15.120 of a difference between, like,

00:12:16.500 a wealthy school district

00:12:17.440 and a not-so-wealthy school district.

00:12:19.180 Other differences might be, like,

00:12:20.560 in wealthier schools,

00:12:21.300 you've got, like, this plethora

00:12:22.440 of after-school programs available,

00:12:24.680 these different clubs and groups

00:12:25.860 that you can take part in.

00:12:26.800 If you're, like, a band student,

00:12:29.080 they might issue you an instrument

00:12:30.160 instead of you having to buy a rent one.

00:12:32.580 It might be the types of textbooks

00:12:34.200 available to you, like,

00:12:35.780 it might be providing

00:12:36.640 graphing calculators to kids.

00:12:38.000 Like, I don't know,

00:12:38.360 there's, like, all these different

00:12:39.200 things that schools can do

00:12:40.040 to kind of, like, put children

00:12:41.000 on a better footing

00:12:42.400 to succeed in school

00:12:43.880 and then in life.

00:12:45.300 And it would also, I imagine,

00:12:47.120 be greater investment in schools

00:12:49.300 to have lower class,

00:12:50.400 smaller class sizes, etc., etc.

00:12:52.480 Yeah, I mean, I guess

00:12:54.580 if you can afford it,

00:12:55.700 smaller class sizes and everything

00:12:56.620 starts to get really expensive.

00:12:58.000 But, yeah, it's also not

00:12:59.560 just a money thing, too.

00:13:00.540 It's figuring out how...

00:13:02.500 We have to be critical

00:13:03.300 of our education system

00:13:04.020 because there are some school districts

00:13:05.000 that throw a lot of money 0.61

00:13:05.900 to their kids

00:13:06.360 and they don't really get

00:13:07.160 great results.

00:13:07.820 So it's not just a matter

00:13:08.660 of throwing money

00:13:09.520 into schools as well.

00:13:10.940 It's a matter of figuring out,

00:13:11.760 like, which programs

00:13:12.320 are beneficial,

00:13:13.000 what works really well,

00:13:13.860 what doesn't work well,

00:13:14.560 and then going from there.

00:13:15.540 So I think, I want to say

00:13:16.360 the two most evidence-backed things

00:13:17.900 I've heard of are,

00:13:19.080 and these kind of seem

00:13:19.760 like no-brainers.

00:13:20.660 One is food.

00:13:22.660 Having free meals

00:13:23.520 available for children

00:13:24.280 seems like a no-brainer.

00:13:25.520 It prepares you for the day.

00:13:26.860 It puts you in a better

00:13:27.480 position to learn.

00:13:29.260 So having free meals

00:13:30.080 available for children

00:13:30.800 that might not be eating

00:13:31.480 well at home

00:13:32.060 is a really good thing.

00:13:33.140 And then two,

00:13:33.900 surprisingly,

00:13:34.480 another thing I saw

00:13:34.920 was air conditioning.

00:13:36.280 Some schools don't have

00:13:37.060 air conditioning available

00:13:37.840 and not having air conditioning

00:13:39.300 in the school

00:13:39.740 that's really hot

00:13:40.520 like over...

00:13:42.120 Oh, God, what is it?

00:13:44.480 Like, is it 28?

00:13:46.460 Hold on.

00:13:46.900 I'm trying to bonger this for you.

00:13:48.020 Yeah, like, there'll be schools

00:13:50.060 in the United States

00:13:50.640 that are over, like,

00:13:51.200 27, 28 degrees inside

00:13:52.640 and you've got no air conditioning

00:13:54.580 for these kids

00:13:55.180 and the ability for you

00:13:56.080 to, like, focus

00:13:56.620 and, you know,

00:13:57.280 pay attention to class

00:13:58.040 or work on homework

00:13:58.580 is severely diminished

00:13:59.580 in those environments, yeah.

00:14:03.520 Yeah.

00:14:03.940 And you mentioned food

00:14:06.460 and obviously children need to eat.

00:14:10.980 Why is it that

00:14:11.980 they don't have food?

00:14:13.600 Why don't they have food?

00:14:16.820 Well, I mean,

00:14:18.060 I don't know.

00:14:19.400 It's a really good question.

00:14:20.800 Well, isn't that really

00:14:21.820 the core question here

00:14:22.940 when it comes to this issue

00:14:24.440 because it seems to me

00:14:26.280 that often the progressive solution

00:14:28.360 is to go,

00:14:29.060 well, this thing is lacking,

00:14:30.700 therefore we must provide it.

00:14:31.940 Whereas I often think that

00:14:33.660 some...

00:14:34.440 I often think that the solution

00:14:36.140 often lies in finding out

00:14:37.520 why is the thing lacking

00:14:39.000 in the first place

00:14:39.800 and there you start

00:14:41.260 to get into real difficulty

00:14:42.380 because it's issues

00:14:43.700 like family breakdown

00:14:44.780 and it's all sorts

00:14:46.440 of other things

00:14:47.000 that are going on

00:14:47.680 that are causing that

00:14:48.500 to happen in the first place.

00:14:49.960 And yes, you can give

00:14:50.720 that child food

00:14:51.460 and you maybe should,

00:14:53.100 but you're not looking

00:14:53.840 at the deeper problem

00:14:54.640 and it's never getting solved.

00:14:57.000 Yeah, but I find that

00:14:58.660 that I feel like that's...

00:14:59.920 I feel...

00:15:00.640 Usually when people

00:15:01.220 bring these points up,

00:15:02.080 I'm not saying you're doing this,

00:15:02.860 but oftentimes it feels

00:15:03.460 a little pearl clutchy

00:15:04.360 to where it's like,

00:15:05.420 here is a problem.

00:15:06.260 I know it exists.

00:15:06.980 Some children don't have

00:15:07.580 food in school,

00:15:08.500 so provide food

00:15:09.380 because we know

00:15:09.900 that that boosts

00:15:10.560 educational outcomes.

00:15:12.540 And then some people are like,

00:15:13.220 well, hold on.

00:15:13.620 Well, what causes that problem?

00:15:14.660 Well, I don't know.

00:15:15.280 I mean, there could be

00:15:16.000 a number of things

00:15:16.600 that cause that problem,

00:15:17.340 but I don't know

00:15:17.740 if I would let there being

00:15:18.580 a deeper problem

00:15:19.280 stop me from

00:15:20.360 at least alleviating

00:15:21.620 that symptom.

00:15:22.340 Oh, sure.

00:15:22.820 I'm not arguing on that point.

00:15:24.960 What I'm saying is,

00:15:26.100 isn't there something else

00:15:27.480 going on that is a sign

00:15:28.860 of something bigger

00:15:29.580 that we should actually

00:15:30.400 be focusing on?

00:15:31.200 I mean, to me,

00:15:32.480 family breakdown

00:15:33.380 is a much bigger issue

00:15:35.000 that no one wants

00:15:36.480 to talk about.

00:15:37.520 No one is focusing

00:15:38.720 on dealing with.

00:15:39.460 Everyone just accepts

00:15:40.220 that this has happened

00:15:41.400 over the last 60-odd years

00:15:43.960 rapidly where you've gone

00:15:45.960 from like 25% of children

00:15:47.640 being born in a single parent

00:15:49.960 or living in a single parent

00:15:51.040 household to like 75

00:15:52.440 for some communities

00:15:53.780 or 50 or 40,

00:15:54.940 depending on which group

00:15:55.880 you're in.

00:15:56.640 That, to me,

00:15:57.600 is a massive problem.

00:15:59.020 Why do we never talk about that

00:16:00.740 when we're talking

00:16:01.320 with progressive people?

00:16:02.640 I feel like we talk about

00:16:03.880 that all the time.

00:16:04.860 I feel like I hear

00:16:05.560 about this constantly.

00:16:06.960 You do?

00:16:08.200 Yeah, of course, yeah,

00:16:09.300 where people talk about

00:16:09.980 children being born

00:16:10.740 out of wedlock,

00:16:11.580 people talk about tangentially.

00:16:12.840 No, I hear the right

00:16:13.740 talking about it.

00:16:14.500 I never hear progressive

00:16:15.380 talk about it.

00:16:17.980 I mean, I hear a lot

00:16:19.100 of right-leaning meaning

00:16:19.640 of the United States.

00:16:20.460 I guess, when I hear

00:16:22.040 the right talk about it,

00:16:22.940 I never hear the right talk

00:16:23.740 about solutions

00:16:24.300 to any of these problems

00:16:25.040 either, though.

00:16:25.760 What's the right-leaning

00:16:27.120 perspective on how

00:16:27.760 to alleviate these things?

00:16:28.520 Or rather, why is there

00:16:29.460 a family breakdown?

00:16:30.040 Well, that is very,

00:16:33.200 very complicated.

00:16:34.240 And we've had a number

00:16:35.260 of guests on the show

00:16:36.020 to talk about it.

00:16:36.740 I mean, Louise Perry

00:16:37.480 would say the sexual

00:16:38.740 revolution creates

00:16:40.260 that process because

00:16:41.400 you change the dynamics

00:16:42.540 between men and women 0.90

00:16:43.280 using contraception.

00:16:44.920 There's, you know,

00:16:45.920 Thomas Sowell would say,

00:16:47.400 and he's obviously

00:16:48.080 on the right,

00:16:48.920 it's the welfare state

00:16:50.340 creates incentives

00:16:51.180 for people not to live

00:16:52.160 together and for women

00:16:54.580 essentially to be paid

00:16:55.580 by the government

00:16:56.160 to have children.

00:16:57.240 There's all sorts

00:16:57.920 of explanations for it.

00:16:59.480 And that means

00:17:01.080 that there's, you know,

00:17:02.260 you're right,

00:17:02.860 I think the right

00:17:03.620 offers few solutions

00:17:04.840 other than like,

00:17:05.920 let's encourage marriage. 0.99

00:17:07.340 But isn't it important

00:17:08.640 for both sides

00:17:09.240 to at least ask the question

00:17:10.200 that we might actually

00:17:11.000 come up with some solutions?

00:17:12.780 Yeah, I think that

00:17:13.280 asking the questions

00:17:14.000 are fine.

00:17:15.560 But yeah,

00:17:16.580 I'm not going to wait

00:17:17.240 for the reversal

00:17:18.620 of the sexual revolution

00:17:19.860 in the welfare state

00:17:20.720 to feed kids in school,

00:17:21.720 I guess.

00:17:23.240 That wasn't what I was saying.

00:17:24.560 I think you know.

00:17:25.080 Oh, sure.

00:17:25.260 No, yeah, I know.

00:17:25.980 Like, yeah, I mean,

00:17:26.460 there's always deeper,

00:17:27.220 there's always deeper things

00:17:28.480 but I find that

00:17:31.640 for deeper problems

00:17:32.440 it always feels like

00:17:32.960 people are just trying

00:17:33.500 to smuggle in

00:17:34.020 whatever they care

00:17:34.740 about the most.

00:17:36.480 So if you ask

00:17:37.240 like the breakdown

00:17:37.740 of the family

00:17:38.220 like a feminist 1.00

00:17:38.920 might tell you

00:17:39.540 that it's because

00:17:40.060 men don't respect

00:17:40.760 women enough 1.00

00:17:41.300 and they're not

00:17:41.640 being patient enough

00:17:42.320 to wait for children

00:17:43.080 to be born

00:17:43.420 at the appropriate time

00:17:44.260 or if you ask

00:17:45.040 a conservative

00:17:45.540 or a Christian 0.93

00:17:46.100 they'll say

00:17:46.440 the breakdown

00:17:46.800 of the family

00:17:47.240 has happened

00:17:47.780 because of

00:17:48.760 a lack of social values

00:17:50.840 and because of

00:17:51.240 the sexual revolution

00:17:52.580 and too many people 0.50

00:17:53.100 are having casual sex 0.70

00:17:54.100 or if you ask 0.88

00:17:55.220 it feels like

00:17:55.900 any time you ask

00:17:56.480 people these

00:17:56.820 really complicated

00:17:57.320 questions

00:17:57.740 it's just an invitation

00:17:59.320 basically for them

00:17:59.940 to rant for

00:18:00.640 you know

00:18:01.340 two hours

00:18:02.320 about whatever

00:18:02.780 their particular

00:18:03.380 pet issue is

00:18:04.980 for all of life

00:18:06.060 that explains everything

00:18:07.140 again, not to say

00:18:08.580 that you guys do that

00:18:09.120 but I mean

00:18:09.680 I agree that

00:18:10.180 these are definitely

00:18:10.700 deeper problems

00:18:11.300 that need to be

00:18:12.260 looked at

00:18:12.860 but I don't think

00:18:14.900 we're undoing

00:18:15.480 like the sexual revolution

00:18:16.640 anytime soon

00:18:17.520 No, I don't

00:18:18.480 We are

00:18:18.940 Yeah, yeah

00:18:19.580 So yeah

00:18:20.100 I mean if you want

00:18:21.060 to talk about

00:18:21.340 any of the deeper things

00:18:21.980 we can go into

00:18:22.480 any of those

00:18:22.860 if you want

00:18:23.160 for sure

00:18:23.480 I mean they're all

00:18:24.000 interesting topics

00:18:24.880 I don't buy the

00:18:25.840 welfare state one

00:18:26.540 for instance

00:18:26.900 I don't believe

00:18:27.300 that any mother 0.69

00:18:27.820 has ever made

00:18:28.400 the choice

00:18:28.840 to have a child

00:18:29.320 out of wedlock

00:18:30.000 to get more welfare

00:18:31.020 We can talk about

00:18:32.380 any of the underlying

00:18:33.080 issues if you want

00:18:33.840 but yeah

00:18:34.620 Well I mean

00:18:35.500 I actually don't

00:18:37.040 believe it either

00:18:37.640 personally

00:18:38.060 because it happens

00:18:39.040 cross-culturally

00:18:39.860 across different nations

00:18:40.920 so I don't buy

00:18:41.680 that argument

00:18:42.140 even though I think

00:18:42.780 a lot of what

00:18:43.320 Thomas Sowell

00:18:43.820 has written

00:18:44.280 is very insightful

00:18:45.460 Anyway

00:18:46.700 Francis

00:18:47.220 I know you've got

00:18:47.860 questions

00:18:48.280 No, so

00:18:49.140 the thing that I find

00:18:50.420 very interesting

00:18:51.080 Destiny

00:18:51.460 is the journey

00:18:52.820 from right

00:18:53.460 to left

00:18:54.040 Do you think

00:18:55.300 the left

00:18:55.700 is better

00:18:56.340 at providing

00:18:57.100 solutions

00:18:57.920 than the right

00:18:59.040 which is that

00:18:59.820 the reason

00:19:00.360 why you moved

00:19:01.240 over?

00:19:04.020 No, I don't think

00:19:04.840 anybody's that great

00:19:05.720 at providing solutions

00:19:06.640 I would say

00:19:08.220 the left

00:19:08.480 is marginally

00:19:09.020 better

00:19:09.260 because at least

00:19:09.740 most of their

00:19:10.180 stuff is rooted

00:19:10.820 more in reality

00:19:12.020 than the right

00:19:12.540 is at least

00:19:13.040 in the United

00:19:13.400 States

00:19:13.860 when people

00:19:15.060 on the right

00:19:15.420 don't think

00:19:16.320 climate change

00:19:16.920 is real

00:19:17.360 I think

00:19:18.140 some of them

00:19:18.460 don't believe

00:19:18.800 in evolution

00:19:19.320 might think

00:19:19.800 the world

00:19:20.060 is 6,000 years

00:19:20.780 old

00:19:21.100 don't believe

00:19:21.520 vaccines work

00:19:22.460 don't believe

00:19:23.400 in climate change

00:19:25.540 it's hard

00:19:27.020 to begin

00:19:27.540 a conversation

00:19:28.120 with

00:19:28.340 how do we

00:19:28.800 fix this

00:19:29.160 problem

00:19:29.460 when a lot

00:19:30.380 of those

00:19:30.600 people

00:19:30.780 are completely

00:19:31.400 just

00:19:31.700 descriptively

00:19:32.420 factually

00:19:33.160 off reality

00:19:34.860 people on the left

00:19:36.360 though

00:19:36.540 obviously

00:19:36.820 they do

00:19:37.120 their virtue

00:19:37.480 signaling

00:19:37.780 as well

00:19:38.120 they say 1.00

00:19:38.480 dumb shit 1.00

00:19:38.880 sometimes 1.00

00:19:39.320 or a lot

00:19:39.740 of times

00:19:40.200 my personal

00:19:42.020 philosophy

00:19:42.440 doesn't really

00:19:43.020 revolve around

00:19:43.620 which side

00:19:44.400 is making

00:19:44.820 the better

00:19:45.200 prescriptions

00:19:45.700 it's more

00:19:46.060 just like

00:19:46.400 where do I

00:19:46.820 align at

00:19:47.420 philosophically

00:19:48.460 in terms of

00:19:49.040 how do I

00:19:49.740 believe

00:19:50.000 the country

00:19:50.800 should be ran

00:19:51.380 I'm going to

00:19:53.740 push back

00:19:54.220 a little bit

00:19:54.640 on that

00:19:54.940 and just

00:19:55.260 so you know

00:19:55.860 I regard

00:19:56.560 myself

00:19:56.940 as being

00:19:57.300 on the left

00:19:57.740 former primary

00:19:58.400 school teacher

00:19:59.060 and secondary

00:19:59.520 school teacher

00:19:59.960 in deprived

00:20:00.420 schools

00:20:00.840 for 12

00:20:01.320 years

00:20:01.720 etc

00:20:02.440 etc

00:20:02.920 etc

00:20:03.340 economically

00:20:04.140 very much

00:20:04.860 on the left

00:20:05.400 but surely

00:20:06.520 Destiny

00:20:06.900 when you were

00:20:07.720 saying like

00:20:08.200 don't believe

00:20:08.820 in vaccines

00:20:09.580 believe in

00:20:10.800 evolution

00:20:11.320 what you're

00:20:12.200 doing is

00:20:12.800 you're

00:20:13.060 pinpointing

00:20:13.720 a certain

00:20:14.360 part of

00:20:15.200 the right

00:20:15.560 the religious

00:20:16.080 right

00:20:16.460 there are

00:20:16.900 lots of

00:20:17.280 people

00:20:17.620 who are

00:20:18.660 very pro

00:20:19.240 vaccine

00:20:19.640 on the

00:20:20.080 right

00:20:20.260 there are

00:20:20.560 a lot

00:20:20.940 of people

00:20:21.420 who are

00:20:22.060 atheists 1.00

00:20:22.720 on the

00:20:24.040 right

00:20:24.260 you were

00:20:24.600 just

00:20:24.780 pointing

00:20:25.200 to a

00:20:25.640 certain

00:20:25.980 part

00:20:26.360 in a

00:20:27.320 way

00:20:27.640 which

00:20:28.000 some

00:20:28.280 people

00:20:28.540 do

00:20:28.740 on the

00:20:28.960 right

00:20:29.180 when they

00:20:29.460 go

00:20:29.640 oh

00:20:29.900 nobody

00:20:30.320 on the

00:20:30.660 left

00:20:30.880 believes

00:20:31.320 that

00:20:31.740 there's

00:20:31.980 two

00:20:32.180 sexes

00:20:32.700 hang 1.00

00:20:33.280 on a

00:20:33.540 minute

00:20:33.660 mate

00:20:33.920 I

00:20:34.180 think

00:20:34.400 there's

00:20:34.620 two

00:20:34.840 sexes

00:20:35.340 do you

00:20:35.820 get

00:20:35.960 what I'm

00:20:36.220 saying

00:20:36.500 destiny

00:20:36.920 yeah

00:20:38.180 I mean

00:20:38.480 48%

00:20:39.180 of

00:20:39.320 republicans

00:20:39.800 in the

00:20:39.960 united

00:20:40.160 states

00:20:40.480 don't

00:20:40.720 believe

00:20:40.900 in

00:20:41.000 evolution

00:20:41.380 I can

00:20:42.440 look up

00:20:42.700 other

00:20:42.860 numbers

00:20:43.100 if you

00:20:43.340 want

00:20:43.600 for

00:20:43.820 vaccines

00:20:44.320 I think

00:20:44.620 68%

00:20:45.460 of

00:20:45.580 republicans

00:20:46.040 don't

00:20:46.240 believe

00:20:46.440 the

00:20:46.580 last

00:20:46.780 election

00:20:47.120 was

00:20:47.300 real

00:20:47.560 I

00:20:48.600 don't

00:20:48.820 buy

00:20:49.020 this

00:20:49.600 what

00:20:49.920 you

00:20:50.020 mean

00:20:50.180 they

00:20:50.300 don't

00:20:50.440 believe

00:20:50.680 it

00:20:50.800 was

00:20:50.920 right

00:20:51.060 you

00:20:51.240 mean

00:20:51.440 they

00:20:51.820 believe

00:20:52.140 it

00:20:52.260 was

00:20:52.400 stolen

00:20:52.740 yeah

00:20:53.040 they

00:20:53.200 believe

00:20:53.360 it

00:20:53.440 was

00:20:53.560 stolen

00:20:53.820 yeah

00:20:54.100 the

00:20:54.380 election

00:20:54.620 was

00:20:54.760 completely

00:20:55.020 rigged

00:20:55.300 like

00:20:55.460 the

00:20:55.600 polls

00:20:55.960 were

00:20:56.340 actually

00:20:56.620 or not

00:20:56.900 the

00:20:57.040 polls

00:20:57.220 the actual

00:20:57.620 votes

00:20:57.940 were

00:20:58.200 were tabulated

00:20:59.020 differently

00:20:59.320 or ballots

00:20:59.920 were hit

00:21:00.160 or whatever

00:21:00.460 there is

00:21:02.040 a radical

00:21:02.640 wing

00:21:03.060 to the

00:21:03.440 left

00:21:03.740 in the

00:21:04.020 United

00:21:04.260 States

00:21:04.700 but that

00:21:05.140 radical

00:21:05.480 wing

00:21:05.780 is a

00:21:06.080 fringe

00:21:06.420 it's

00:21:06.620 small

00:21:06.920 it's

00:21:07.140 found

00:21:07.260 in

00:21:07.400 colleges

00:21:07.780 it's

00:21:08.780 almost

00:21:08.980 non

00:21:09.200 existent

00:21:09.640 legislatively

00:21:10.240 and it's

00:21:11.060 found on

00:21:11.340 Twitter

00:21:11.560 but on

00:21:12.140 the

00:21:12.260 Republican

00:21:12.580 side

00:21:12.940 on the

00:21:13.240 conservative

00:21:13.560 side

00:21:13.940 the

00:21:14.320 radical

00:21:14.660 wing

00:21:15.040 is

00:21:15.420 right

00:21:15.760 now

00:21:15.900 the

00:21:16.040 majority

00:21:16.420 of

00:21:16.600 the

00:21:16.720 party

00:21:17.020 it's

00:21:17.420 significantly

00:21:18.140 different

00:21:18.620 so

00:21:18.920 I'm

00:21:19.340 willing

00:21:19.500 to

00:21:19.660 acknowledge

00:21:19.980 that

00:21:20.120 there's

00:21:20.300 radicals

00:21:20.720 on the

00:21:20.880 left

00:21:21.040 and

00:21:21.180 right

00:21:21.400 the

00:21:21.560 differences

00:21:21.860 on the

00:21:22.180 right

00:21:22.380 they've

00:21:22.620 become

00:21:22.820 almost

00:21:23.180 the

00:21:23.340 majority

00:21:23.600 of the

00:21:23.800 Republican

00:21:24.060 party

00:21:24.340 in

00:21:24.460 some

00:21:24.640 ways

00:21:24.840 and I

00:21:25.520 wouldn't

00:21:25.720 agree

00:21:25.940 with that

00:21:26.200 idea

00:21:26.400 that

00:21:26.540 like

00:21:26.660 oh

00:21:26.940 not

00:21:27.900 believing

00:21:28.280 in

00:21:28.420 these

00:21:28.540 things

00:21:28.740 being

00:21:28.920 hyper

00:21:39.200 topics

00:21:39.560 but

00:21:39.780 again

00:21:39.920 we

00:21:40.040 can

00:21:40.160 get

00:21:40.260 into

00:21:40.420 any

00:21:40.580 of

00:21:40.680 those

00:21:40.820 specifically

00:21:41.520 yeah

00:21:42.100 well

00:21:43.020 I mean

00:21:43.680 you know

00:21:44.480 for us

00:21:45.380 to

00:21:45.680 growing up

00:21:46.420 and our

00:21:46.960 heroes

00:21:47.280 are people

00:21:47.600 like Bill

00:21:48.060 Hicks

00:21:48.320 and George

00:21:48.760 Carlin

00:21:49.120 who were

00:21:49.420 always

00:21:49.640 mocking

00:21:50.000 those

00:21:50.420 very

00:21:50.680 people

00:21:50.980 the

00:21:51.160 religious

00:21:51.520 right

00:21:51.860 in the

00:21:52.480 United

00:21:52.720 States

00:21:53.080 who were

00:21:53.380 at that

00:21:53.640 time

00:21:53.900 saying

00:21:54.220 don't

00:21:54.560 say

00:21:54.720 this

00:21:54.960 you

00:21:55.100 can't

00:21:55.400 say

00:21:55.540 this

00:21:55.780 you

00:21:55.920 don't

00:21:56.120 blah

00:21:56.300 blah

00:21:56.500 blah

00:21:56.660 blah

00:21:56.820 I

00:21:57.820 mean

00:21:57.940 I

00:21:58.100 would

00:21:58.380 quibble

00:21:58.680 somewhat

00:21:59.000 with

00:21:59.200 the idea

00:21:59.580 that

00:21:59.860 the

00:22:00.200 far

00:22:00.940 left

00:22:01.240 has

00:22:01.600 little

00:22:02.340 influence

00:22:02.780 I mean

00:22:03.020 I

00:22:03.180 seem

00:22:03.520 to

00:22:03.640 remember

00:22:03.880 them

00:22:04.080 burning 0.99

00:22:04.360 down

00:22:04.740 quite

00:22:05.020 a lot

00:22:05.260 of

00:22:05.360 stuff

00:22:05.580 in

00:22:05.780 the

00:22:06.140 middle

00:22:06.300 of

00:22:06.440 2020

00:22:06.880 but

00:22:07.380 in

00:22:08.740 terms

00:22:09.020 of

00:22:09.260 the

00:22:09.600 what

00:22:11.200 I'm

00:22:11.360 curious

00:22:11.640 about

00:22:11.860 you

00:22:12.060 are

00:22:12.200 someone

00:22:12.400 who's

00:22:12.640 been

00:22:12.780 very

00:22:12.980 strongly

00:22:13.340 supportive

00:22:13.960 of

00:22:14.180 the

00:22:14.300 idea

00:22:14.520 of

00:22:14.660 free

00:22:14.840 speech

00:22:15.260 and

00:22:16.100 that

00:22:16.860 certainly

00:22:17.360 has

00:22:17.660 as a

00:22:18.720 value

00:22:19.000 has

00:22:19.200 been

00:22:19.400 eroded

00:22:19.860 in

00:22:20.240 recent

00:22:20.560 years

00:22:20.860 on

00:22:21.020 the

00:22:21.140 left

00:22:21.340 it

00:22:21.500 seems

00:22:21.700 to

00:22:21.860 me

00:22:22.000 at

00:22:22.140 least

00:22:22.300 as

00:22:22.460 an

00:22:22.880 observer

00:22:23.260 would

00:22:23.840 you

00:22:23.940 agree

00:22:24.120 with

00:22:24.280 that

00:22:24.500 I

00:22:31.600 can

00:22:31.960 across

00:22:32.360 social

00:22:32.640 media

00:22:32.860 institutions

00:22:33.580 or the

00:22:34.340 institution

00:22:34.700 of

00:22:34.860 social

00:22:35.080 media

00:22:35.300 I

00:22:35.420 guess

00:22:35.540 or

00:22:35.640 internet

00:22:35.820 stuff

00:22:36.240 but

00:22:36.880 the

00:22:37.020 right

00:22:37.160 wants

00:22:37.360 to

00:22:37.520 legislate

00:22:38.100 a lot

00:22:38.540 of

00:22:38.640 freedom

00:22:38.800 of

00:22:38.940 speech

00:22:39.180 out

00:22:39.400 of

00:22:39.480 existence

00:22:39.860 which

00:22:40.200 is

00:22:40.320 really

00:22:40.540 scary

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00:22:41.000 me

00:22:41.140 and

00:22:41.380 it

00:22:41.500 seems

00:22:41.720 like

00:22:41.880 those

00:22:42.120 ideas

00:22:42.520 enjoy

00:22:42.940 broad

00:22:43.280 support

00:22:43.820 among

00:22:44.360 republicans

00:22:45.040 so

00:22:45.600 like

00:22:47.520 legislate

00:22:48.600 free

00:22:48.880 speech

00:22:49.200 how do

00:22:49.560 you

00:22:49.600 mean

00:22:49.780 so

00:22:50.900 for

00:22:51.080 instance

00:22:51.300 Donald

00:22:51.580 Trump

00:22:51.860 said

00:22:52.080 that

00:22:52.180 he

00:22:52.280 was

00:22:52.420 in

00:22:52.560 favor

00:22:52.800 of

00:22:53.020 revoking

00:22:53.560 citizenship

00:22:54.180 for

00:22:54.520 Americans

00:22:55.040 that

00:22:55.320 burned

00:22:55.660 the 0.78

00:22:55.820 American

00:22:56.160 flag

00:22:56.600 which

00:22:56.940 is

00:22:57.000 one

00:22:57.120 of

00:22:57.200 our

00:22:57.320 most

00:22:57.500 important

00:22:57.900 rights

00:22:58.160 to

00:22:58.300 freedom

00:22:58.480 of

00:22:58.600 speech

00:22:58.720 he

00:22:59.500 didn't

00:22:59.760 get

00:22:59.980 very

00:23:00.160 much

00:23:00.360 blowback

00:23:00.720 at all

00:23:00.980 from

00:23:01.100 republicans

00:23:01.520 for

00:23:01.660 that

00:23:01.900 republican

00:23:03.020 has

00:23:03.380 I'm

00:23:03.960 sorry

00:23:04.100 Trump

00:23:04.400 has

00:23:04.520 spoken

00:23:04.780 repeatedly

00:23:05.460 about

00:23:05.940 how

00:23:06.100 he

00:23:06.280 wishes

00:23:06.560 to

00:23:06.780 open

00:23:07.060 libel

00:23:07.360 laws

00:23:07.680 to

00:23:07.800 make

00:23:07.900 it

00:23:07.980 so

00:23:08.060 it's

00:23:08.220 easier

00:23:08.620 for

00:23:08.860 people

00:23:09.140 in

00:23:09.280 office

00:23:09.600 him

00:23:09.840 especially

00:23:10.240 to

00:23:10.500 sue

00:23:10.840 media

00:23:11.220 he

00:23:11.620 said

00:23:11.840 repeatedly

00:23:12.260 that

00:23:12.500 media

00:23:12.900 is

00:23:13.140 the

00:23:13.320 enemy

00:23:13.580 of

00:23:13.740 the

00:23:13.860 people

00:23:14.180 these

00:23:14.980 are

00:23:15.100 some

00:23:15.240 of

00:23:15.360 the

00:23:15.480 most

00:23:15.680 worrying

00:23:16.200 statements

00:23:16.620 that

00:23:16.800 a

00:23:16.940 head

00:23:17.100 of

00:23:17.240 state

00:23:17.440 can

00:23:17.620 ever

00:23:17.980 make

00:23:18.360 if

00:23:18.800 freedom

00:23:19.040 of

00:23:19.200 speech

00:23:19.380 is

00:23:19.520 a

00:23:19.660 primary

00:23:19.940 concern

00:23:20.400 of

00:23:20.580 yours

00:23:20.900 but

00:23:23.140 that's

00:23:23.840 Donald

00:23:24.240 Trump

00:23:24.480 I

00:23:24.620 mean

00:23:24.720 I

00:23:25.240 really

00:23:25.760 I

00:23:26.420 find

00:23:26.920 him

00:23:27.020 quite 0.62

00:23:27.200 obnoxious

00:23:27.700 and

00:23:27.860 never

00:23:28.120 was

00:23:28.460 particularly

00:23:28.860 supportive

00:23:29.340 of

00:23:29.560 him

00:23:29.760 that's

00:23:30.160 fine

00:23:30.300 but

00:23:30.420 the

00:23:30.520 majority

00:23:30.780 of

00:23:30.940 republicans

00:23:31.360 in

00:23:31.480 the

00:23:31.540 United

00:23:31.760 States

00:23:32.060 support

00:23:32.420 Donald

00:23:32.680 Trump

00:23:32.920 and

00:23:33.080 he

00:23:33.180 just

00:23:33.340 called

00:23:33.560 for

00:23:33.800 suspending

00:23:34.320 the

00:23:34.480 constitution

00:23:34.980 a few

00:23:35.280 days

00:23:35.500 ago

00:23:35.680 so

00:23:35.880 I

00:23:36.000 don't

00:23:36.100 really

00:23:36.260 believe

00:23:36.520 republicans

00:23:36.980 are

00:23:37.100 conservatives

00:23:37.420 when

00:23:37.640 they

00:23:37.760 say

00:23:37.960 they're

00:23:38.400 worried

00:23:38.560 about

00:23:38.720 freedom

00:23:38.960 of

00:23:39.120 speech

00:23:39.340 I

00:23:39.480 think

00:23:39.580 that

00:23:39.680 when

00:23:39.760 they

00:23:39.880 say

00:23:40.040 that

00:23:40.180 what

00:23:40.300 they

00:23:40.420 really

00:23:40.600 mean

00:23:40.760 is

00:23:40.900 they

00:23:41.040 don't

00:23:41.140 like

00:23:41.300 that

00:23:41.400 they

00:23:41.480 got

00:23:41.600 banned

00:23:41.800 on

00:23:41.920 Twitter

00:23:42.120 okay

00:23:42.500 fine

00:23:42.920 I

00:23:43.580 am

00:23:43.740 not

00:23:44.420 a

00:23:44.540 Republican

00:23:44.920 in

00:23:45.200 America

00:23:45.560 I

00:23:45.940 am

00:23:46.080 not

00:23:46.260 on

00:23:46.440 the

00:23:46.560 right

00:23:46.840 I

00:23:47.300 am

00:23:47.440 worried

00:23:47.700 about

00:23:47.920 freedom

00:23:48.220 of

00:23:48.400 speech

00:23:48.680 sure

00:23:49.120 and

00:23:49.920 one

00:23:50.220 of

00:23:50.340 the

00:23:50.420 reasons

00:23:50.600 we

00:23:50.800 started

00:23:51.160 this

00:23:51.500 channel

00:23:51.800 is

00:23:52.020 we

00:23:52.200 saw

00:23:52.480 in

00:23:52.640 our

00:23:52.820 industry

00:23:53.160 which

00:23:53.400 has

00:23:53.600 always

00:23:53.960 been

00:23:54.120 very

00:23:54.340 progressive

00:23:54.760 the

00:23:54.980 comedy

00:23:55.260 industry

00:23:55.800 comedians

00:23:56.760 increasingly

00:23:57.300 restricted

00:23:57.900 punished

00:23:58.620 cancelled

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00:24:00.740 out

00:24:01.020 not

00:24:01.280 given

00:24:01.920 opportunities

00:24:02.480 that

00:24:02.740 they

00:24:02.880 otherwise

00:24:03.140 have

00:24:03.320 been

00:24:03.460 given

00:24:03.720 for

00:24:04.420 doing

00:24:04.840 offensive

00:24:05.200 jokes

00:24:05.600 and

00:24:06.280 or

00:24:06.740 having

00:24:07.380 the

00:24:07.640 quote

00:24:07.860 unquote

00:24:08.080 wrong

00:24:08.440 opinions

00:24:08.960 so

00:24:09.560 I

00:24:10.020 think

00:24:10.300 to

00:24:10.480 suggest

00:24:10.840 that

00:24:11.060 people

00:24:11.360 no

00:24:12.020 one

00:24:12.260 cares

00:24:12.520 about

00:24:12.780 free

00:24:13.020 speech

00:24:13.340 because

00:24:13.580 Donald

00:24:13.900 Trump

00:24:14.160 doesn't

00:24:14.480 care

00:24:14.640 about

00:24:14.860 free

00:24:15.040 speech

00:24:15.260 you

00:24:15.620 again

00:24:15.840 you're

00:24:16.040 grouping

00:24:16.340 extremists

00:24:17.000 in

00:24:17.160 with

00:24:17.300 lots

00:24:17.800 of

00:24:17.920 other

00:24:18.080 people

00:24:18.420 the

00:24:18.960 extremist

00:24:20.320 wing

00:24:20.620 of

00:24:20.760 the

00:24:20.880 conservative

00:24:21.240 party

00:24:21.600 in the

00:24:21.780 United

00:24:21.940 States

00:24:22.220 is

00:24:22.520 the

00:24:22.680 majority

00:24:23.080 that's

00:24:23.500 the

00:24:23.620 problem

00:24:24.100 extremists

00:24:25.040 in the

00:24:25.240 United

00:24:25.420 States

00:24:25.700 on the

00:24:25.980 left

00:24:26.220 are

00:24:26.380 a

00:24:26.560 minority

00:24:27.000 of

00:24:27.180 the

00:24:27.280 party

00:24:27.540 right

00:24:28.000 not

00:24:28.180 many

00:24:28.440 democrats

00:24:29.220 consider

00:24:29.500 themselves

00:24:29.760 communists

00:24:30.300 or

00:24:30.420 socialists

00:24:30.800 that's

00:24:31.020 like

00:24:31.140 kids

00:24:31.360 at

00:24:31.520 school

00:24:31.840 where

00:24:32.220 you're

00:24:32.700 radical

00:24:33.080 far

00:24:33.520 very

00:24:33.880 slow

00:24:34.380 slim

00:24:34.900 minority

00:24:35.320 people

00:24:35.620 you're

00:24:35.820 AOCs 0.99

00:24:36.460 right

00:24:36.880 but in

00:24:37.300 the

00:24:37.380 conservative

00:24:37.760 party

00:24:38.240 they're

00:24:38.540 currently

00:24:38.920 tearing

00:24:39.360 themselves

00:24:39.780 apart

00:24:40.260 because

00:24:40.680 the

00:24:40.820 majority

00:24:41.180 of

00:24:41.340 the

00:24:41.460 party

00:24:41.800 were

00:24:48.960 I

00:24:50.080 always

00:24:50.380 say

00:24:50.720 I

00:24:51.280 am

00:24:51.500 longing

00:24:51.920 for

00:24:52.200 the

00:24:52.340 day

00:24:52.620 where

00:24:52.880 I

00:24:53.000 can

00:24:53.160 go

00:24:53.380 back

00:24:53.760 to

00:24:54.220 mocking

00:24:54.560 the

00:24:54.860 right

00:24:55.200 for

00:24:55.760 hating

00:24:56.340 comedians

00:24:57.020 and not

00:24:57.360 allowing

00:24:57.660 them to

00:24:58.020 make

00:24:58.180 jokes

00:24:58.480 and

00:24:58.680 blah

00:24:58.880 blah

00:24:59.000 blah

00:24:59.140 and

00:24:59.580 I

00:24:59.840 believe

00:25:00.100 that

00:25:00.300 eventually

00:25:00.700 will

00:25:00.980 happen

00:25:01.300 but I

00:25:01.920 also

00:25:02.200 think

00:25:02.560 it's

00:25:02.980 clear

00:25:03.600 very

00:25:04.240 very

00:25:04.520 clear

00:25:04.880 where

00:25:05.440 restrictions

00:25:06.000 around

00:25:06.400 comedy

00:25:06.880 and all

00:25:07.600 sorts

00:25:07.800 of

00:25:07.900 other

00:25:08.080 speech

00:25:08.360 are

00:25:08.500 coming

00:25:08.740 from

00:25:08.980 culturally

00:25:09.480 look

00:25:10.060 I

00:25:10.240 hear

00:25:10.460 you

00:25:10.620 about

00:25:10.860 Donald

00:25:11.140 Trump

00:25:11.420 I

00:25:11.620 don't

00:25:11.820 like

00:25:12.020 Donald

00:25:12.260 Trump

00:25:12.500 but

00:25:13.060 in

00:25:13.520 terms

00:25:13.780 of

00:25:13.920 the

00:25:14.060 broader

00:25:14.560 culture

00:25:15.060 the

00:25:15.600 attacks

00:25:16.020 on

00:25:16.260 people's

00:25:16.620 opportunity

00:25:17.000 to make

00:25:17.400 jokes

00:25:17.780 to express

00:25:18.440 opinions

00:25:18.860 that are

00:25:19.180 controversial

00:25:19.740 are

00:25:20.360 overwhelming

00:25:21.020 from the

00:25:21.600 left

00:25:21.780 aren't

00:25:21.980 they

00:25:22.140 when

00:25:23.180 it

00:25:23.280 comes

00:25:23.400 to

00:25:23.500 things

00:25:23.620 like

00:25:23.760 social

00:25:24.080 media

00:25:24.480 and

00:25:24.820 cultural

00:25:25.240 stuff

00:25:25.640 yeah

00:25:25.800 for sure

00:25:26.280 I

00:25:27.080 don't

00:25:27.220 disagree

00:25:27.480 with

00:25:27.700 that

00:25:27.840 because

00:25:28.060 that's

00:25:28.240 kind

00:25:28.380 of

00:25:28.480 where

00:25:28.660 the

00:25:28.880 left

00:25:29.140 has

00:25:29.380 its

00:25:29.520 power

00:25:29.860 staked

00:25:30.240 out

00:25:30.420 in

00:25:30.600 but

00:25:31.700 when

00:25:31.820 it

00:25:31.920 comes

00:25:32.160 to

00:25:32.340 legislation

00:25:33.000 I

00:25:34.120 mean

00:25:34.240 I

00:25:34.320 would

00:25:34.420 say

00:25:34.560 that

00:25:34.700 the

00:25:34.940 conservative

00:25:35.320 threat

00:25:35.600 is

00:25:35.740 bigger

00:25:35.900 there

00:25:36.200 and

00:25:37.720 so

00:25:38.520 what

00:25:38.840 do

00:25:39.100 you

00:25:39.180 mean

00:25:39.300 by

00:25:39.500 extremist

00:25:40.100 let's

00:25:40.820 actually

00:25:41.220 break

00:25:41.680 that

00:25:41.900 down

00:25:42.280 because

00:25:42.840 we're

00:25:43.060 using

00:25:44.040 the

00:25:44.220 word

00:25:44.400 extremist

00:25:45.020 and

00:25:45.240 like

00:25:45.440 all

00:25:45.660 of

00:25:45.820 these

00:25:46.020 words

00:25:46.440 they

00:25:47.600 mean

00:25:47.800 different

00:25:48.160 things

00:25:48.520 to

00:25:48.640 different

00:25:48.920 people

00:25:49.360 and

00:25:49.560 context

00:25:50.600 and

00:25:50.940 whatever

00:25:51.180 else

00:25:51.460 so

00:25:51.620 tell us

00:25:51.920 what

00:25:52.040 you

00:25:52.120 mean

00:25:52.240 by

00:25:52.420 extremist

00:25:52.960 destiny

00:25:53.300 sure

00:25:53.600 so

00:25:53.840 I

00:25:54.060 would

00:25:54.200 say

00:25:54.380 that

00:25:54.600 Trump

00:25:55.040 for

00:25:55.260 all

00:25:55.460 intents

00:25:55.740 and

00:25:55.880 purposes

00:25:56.140 given

00:25:56.540 the

00:25:56.720 ability

00:25:57.040 to run

00:25:57.460 the

00:25:57.600 government

00:25:57.920 as

00:25:58.240 he

00:25:58.400 would

00:25:58.680 is

00:25:59.060 about

00:25:59.240 as

00:25:59.360 close

00:25:59.600 to

00:25:59.720 a

00:25:59.840 fascist 0.80

00:26:00.180 as 0.99

00:26:00.280 you

00:26:00.360 could

00:26:00.440 be

00:26:00.540 without

00:26:00.720 actually

00:26:01.060 being

00:26:01.260 a 0.99

00:26:01.360 fascist

00:26:01.620 or 0.90

00:26:01.760 maybe

00:26:01.940 he's

00:26:02.120 a 1.00

00:26:02.200 fascist

00:26:02.400 I'm

00:26:02.480 not

00:26:02.580 sure

00:26:02.760 anybody

00:26:03.360 that

00:26:03.620 supports

00:26:03.940 Donald

00:26:04.300 Trump

00:26:04.660 even

00:26:05.080 if

00:26:05.240 you're

00:26:05.360 like

00:26:05.580 well

00:26:05.900 I

00:26:06.080 don't

00:26:06.200 like

00:26:06.380 him

00:26:06.460 that

00:26:06.600 much

00:26:06.800 but

00:26:06.900 I

00:26:06.980 guess

00:26:07.100 he's

00:26:07.400 an

00:26:07.500 extremist

00:26:07.960 by

00:26:08.260 any

00:26:08.840 definition

00:26:09.360 the

00:26:10.320 fact

00:26:10.780 that

00:26:10.940 January 6th

00:26:11.660 happened

00:26:11.860 and most

00:26:12.120 Republicans

00:26:12.460 don't care

00:26:12.880 about

00:26:13.120 it

00:26:13.280 the

00:26:14.000 fact

00:26:14.320 that

00:26:14.500 so

00:26:14.740 many

00:26:14.940 of

00:26:15.060 them

00:26:15.200 don't

00:26:16.000 believe

00:26:16.240 that

00:26:16.380 the

00:26:16.480 last

00:26:16.660 election

00:26:29.360 look

00:26:29.720 I

00:26:30.260 am

00:26:30.400 sort

00:26:30.680 of

00:26:30.800 like

00:26:31.100 sitting

00:26:31.820 observing

00:26:32.480 from

00:26:32.760 both

00:26:33.040 sides

00:26:33.360 we're

00:26:34.020 not

00:26:34.180 in

00:26:34.280 America

00:26:34.640 I

00:26:35.360 really

00:26:35.740 don't

00:26:36.060 affiliate

00:26:36.360 myself

00:26:36.760 with

00:26:36.960 either

00:26:37.140 side

00:26:37.440 of

00:26:37.540 the

00:26:37.660 political

00:26:37.960 spectrum

00:26:38.400 I

00:26:39.240 remember

00:26:39.680 quite

00:26:40.320 distinctly

00:26:41.020 Hillary Clinton

00:26:41.940 saying

00:26:42.320 Donald

00:26:42.640 Trump

00:26:42.920 is 0.97

00:26:43.100 an

00:26:43.280 illegitimate

00:26:43.820 president

00:26:44.240 in

00:26:44.480 2016

00:26:45.060 I

00:26:45.860 personally

00:26:46.420 know

00:26:46.700 plenty

00:26:47.020 of

00:26:47.180 people

00:26:47.500 in

00:26:48.020 media

00:26:48.460 and

00:26:48.940 in

00:26:49.120 politics

00:26:49.660 and

00:26:50.540 in

00:26:50.860 all

00:26:51.200 of

00:26:51.340 these

00:26:51.540 spheres

00:26:51.900 who

00:26:52.340 flat

00:26:52.720 out

00:26:53.040 denied

00:26:53.700 that

00:26:53.940 Donald

00:26:54.180 Trump

00:26:54.460 was

00:26:54.640 legitimately

00:26:55.140 elected

00:26:55.580 in

00:26:55.740 2016

00:26:56.320 who

00:26:56.900 said

00:26:59.360 I

00:26:59.520 remember

00:26:59.820 going

00:27:00.180 on

00:27:00.380 stage

00:27:00.740 I

00:27:01.160 'm

00:27:01.400 originally

00:27:01.720 from

00:27:01.980 Russia

00:27:02.260 and

00:27:02.420 talking

00:27:02.680 about

00:27:03.000 how

00:27:03.260 we

00:27:03.700 helped

00:27:04.000 to

00:27:04.380 get

00:27:04.560 Trump

00:27:04.860 elected

00:27:05.380 right

00:27:06.020 because

00:27:06.500 he

00:27:06.660 was

00:27:06.800 so

00:27:07.060 much

00:27:07.320 in

00:27:07.480 the

00:27:07.600 air

00:27:07.820 the

00:27:08.240 idea

00:27:08.640 was

00:27:09.000 he

00:27:09.200 was

00:27:09.440 elected

00:27:10.840 illegitimately

00:27:11.660 so

00:27:11.980 I

00:27:13.420 find it

00:27:13.900 hard

00:27:14.120 to

00:27:14.340 collect

00:27:14.620 my

00:27:14.900 pearls

00:27:15.240 when

00:27:15.560 the

00:27:15.680 Republicans

00:27:16.080 are

00:27:16.280 doing

00:27:16.400 it

00:27:16.520 even

00:27:16.660 though

00:27:16.840 I

00:27:17.020 disagree

00:27:17.440 with

00:27:17.660 it

00:27:17.760 I

00:27:17.880 think

00:27:18.100 the

00:27:18.260 last

00:27:18.480 election

00:27:18.800 was

00:27:19.060 fine

00:27:19.780 despite

00:27:20.500 various

00:27:21.220 shenanigans

00:27:21.700 including

00:27:22.120 the Hunter

00:27:22.520 Biden

00:27:22.820 suppression

00:27:23.300 and

00:27:23.480 blah

00:27:29.360 now

00:27:29.720 do

00:27:29.980 it

00:27:30.140 unfortunately

00:27:30.720 is

00:27:31.500 that

00:27:31.660 accurate

00:27:32.040 is

00:27:32.360 that

00:27:32.480 reasonable

00:27:32.880 nope

00:27:33.300 it's

00:27:33.540 the

00:27:33.680 most

00:27:34.040 inaccurate

00:27:34.360 thing

00:27:34.560 in

00:27:34.640 the

00:27:34.680 world

00:27:34.800 I've

00:27:34.980 heard

00:27:35.180 this

00:27:35.320 talking

00:27:35.500 point

00:27:35.780 and

00:27:36.040 rebutted

00:27:36.720 it

00:27:36.840 like

00:27:37.040 50

00:27:38.060 billion

00:27:38.460 times

00:27:38.840 so

00:27:39.200 everybody

00:27:39.860 will

00:27:40.100 point

00:27:40.340 out

00:27:40.500 the

00:27:40.700 one

00:27:41.040 quote

00:27:41.380 where

00:27:41.720 Hillary 0.96

00:27:42.020 Clinton

00:27:42.280 said

00:27:42.580 Donald

00:27:43.220 Trump

00:27:43.420 was 0.92

00:27:43.560 an

00:27:43.680 illegitimate

00:27:44.060 president

00:27:44.420 that

00:27:44.680 one

00:27:45.060 quote

00:27:45.360 Donald

00:27:45.760 Trump

00:27:46.000 has

00:27:46.160 made

00:27:46.320 50,000

00:27:47.240 other

00:27:47.600 statements

00:27:48.040 saying

00:27:48.300 that

00:27:48.420 the

00:27:48.520 election

00:27:48.920 was

00:27:49.260 raked

00:27:49.720 he repeats

00:27:50.240 quite a lot

00:27:51.180 but

00:27:51.420 that

00:27:51.900 isn't

00:27:52.140 the

00:27:52.300 point

00:27:52.600 I'm

00:27:54.480 on stage

00:27:54.880 as a

00:27:55.140 comedian

00:27:55.440 doing

00:27:55.780 these

00:27:56.020 jokes

00:27:56.320 because

00:27:56.520 it's

00:27:56.780 in

00:27:56.980 the

00:27:57.180 culture

00:27:57.600 and

00:27:57.880 everyone

00:27:58.320 laughs

00:27:58.780 because

00:27:59.040 they

00:27:59.280 recognize

00:27:59.820 the

00:28:00.320 quote

00:28:00.540 unquote

00:28:00.780 truth

00:28:01.120 in it

00:28:01.380 isn't

00:28:01.920 that

00:28:02.080 the

00:28:02.260 point

00:28:02.520 a lot

00:28:02.980 of

00:28:03.120 people

00:28:03.380 thought

00:28:03.600 the

00:28:03.860 election

00:28:04.160 was

00:28:04.360 stolen

00:28:04.620 it

00:28:05.240 is

00:28:05.400 exactly

00:28:05.860 the

00:28:06.080 point

00:28:06.260 if

00:28:06.420 we

00:28:06.560 look

00:28:06.720 at

00:28:06.820 the

00:28:06.960 behavior

00:28:07.360 of

00:28:07.600 the

00:28:07.740 Democratic

00:28:08.140 Party

00:28:08.600 and

00:28:09.080 the

00:28:09.200 Democratic

00:28:09.600 establishment

00:28:10.220 versus

00:28:10.660 the

00:28:10.840 behavior

00:28:11.180 of

00:28:11.360 Republican

00:28:11.840 party

00:28:12.200 Republican

00:28:12.600 leaders

00:28:12.900 in

00:28:13.000 the

00:28:13.080 Republican

00:28:13.460 establishment

00:28:14.020 the

00:28:14.500 difference

00:28:14.960 is

00:28:15.180 night

00:28:15.460 and

00:28:15.640 day

00:28:15.900 Hillary 0.96

00:28:16.460 Clinton

00:28:16.800 ceded

00:28:17.120 the

00:28:17.300 election

00:28:17.720 the

00:28:18.040 night

00:28:18.380 of

00:28:18.760 Donald

00:28:19.240 Trump

00:28:19.500 tried

00:28:19.800 to

00:28:20.020 claim

00:28:20.360 victory

00:28:20.820 before

00:28:21.180 the

00:28:21.420 votes

00:28:21.680 were

00:28:21.860 even

00:28:22.120 counted

00:28:22.640 okay

00:28:23.380 Hillary 0.96

00:28:23.900 Clinton

00:28:24.240 gave

00:28:24.500 one

00:28:24.840 interview

00:28:25.300 where

00:28:25.540 she

00:28:25.680 was

00:28:25.840 salty

00:28:26.140 and

00:28:26.300 she

00:28:26.400 said

00:28:26.580 something

00:28:26.740 about

00:28:26.920 him

00:28:27.060 being

00:28:27.180 an

00:28:27.340 illegitimate

00:28:27.740 president

00:28:28.160 Donald

00:28:28.640 Trump

00:28:28.920 asked

00:28:29.260 his

00:28:29.440 vice

00:28:29.720 president

00:28:30.080 to

00:28:30.320 overturn

00:28:30.740 the

00:28:31.000 results

00:28:31.340 of

00:28:31.500 the

00:28:31.620 election

00:28:32.020 there

00:28:32.620 have

00:28:32.720 been

00:28:32.820 a

00:28:32.940 couple

00:28:33.160 of

00:28:33.340 people

00:28:33.620 online

00:28:34.060 that

00:28:34.240 have

00:28:34.360 gone

00:28:34.500 too

00:28:34.720 far

00:28:34.980 for

00:28:35.200 sure

00:28:35.480 with

00:28:44.960 have

00:28:45.220 been

00:28:45.360 charged

00:28:45.720 with

00:28:45.940 sedition

00:28:46.460 the

00:28:46.860 comparison

00:28:47.280 is

00:28:47.580 not

00:28:47.880 even

00:28:48.100 remotely

00:28:48.740 close

00:28:49.160 and

00:28:49.320 I

00:28:49.420 can't

00:28:49.680 believe

00:28:50.080 anybody

00:28:50.580 would

00:28:50.760 try to

00:28:50.980 say

00:28:51.120 the

00:28:51.240 two

00:28:51.360 things

00:28:51.520 are

00:28:51.620 similar

00:28:51.860 like

00:28:52.100 yeah

00:28:52.400 you

00:28:52.560 can

00:28:52.680 give

00:28:52.820 me

00:28:52.900 a few

00:28:53.120 quotes

00:28:53.480 that

00:28:53.600 are 1.00

00:28:53.700 stupid 1.00

00:28:54.020 by 1.00

00:28:54.220 liberal

00:28:54.540 leaders

00:28:54.820 that

00:28:54.980 have

00:28:55.060 said 0.99

00:28:55.220 dumb 1.00

00:28:55.440 shit 1.00

00:28:55.620 about 1.00

00:28:55.760 Trump

00:28:55.920 that

00:28:56.180 they

00:28:56.300 shouldn't

00:28:56.500 have

00:28:56.600 said

00:28:56.740 and

00:28:56.840 I

00:28:56.940 agree

00:28:57.180 with

00:28:57.320 that

00:28:57.480 when

00:28:59.800 Donald

00:29:00.060 Trump

00:29:00.280 to

00:29:00.520 this

00:29:00.800 day

00:29:01.060 still

00:29:01.320 believes

00:29:01.580 the

00:29:01.740 election

00:29:02.020 was

00:29:02.240 actually

00:29:02.760 rigged

00:29:03.300 I

00:29:03.560 don't

00:29:03.640 like

00:29:03.760 it's

00:29:03.880 even

00:29:04.040 remotely

00:29:04.380 Do you

00:29:04.900 think

00:29:05.160 Hillary 0.96

00:29:05.620 Clinton

00:29:05.980 to this

00:29:06.460 day

00:29:06.700 believes

00:29:07.160 that

00:29:07.400 she

00:29:07.660 lost

00:29:08.120 that

00:29:08.300 election

00:29:08.600 fair

00:29:08.820 and

00:29:08.940 square

00:29:09.180 well

00:29:09.960 fair

00:29:10.640 and

00:29:10.860 square

00:29:11.200 and

00:29:11.500 actual

00:29:12.280 rigged

00:29:12.760 election

00:29:13.120 are

00:29:13.300 two

00:29:13.480 different

00:29:13.780 things

00:29:14.220 right

00:29:14.660 Russia

00:29:15.200 collusion

00:29:15.700 do you

00:29:16.080 think

00:29:16.240 she

00:29:16.400 believes

00:29:16.800 that

00:29:16.980 the

00:29:17.100 election

00:29:17.380 was

00:29:17.620 taken

00:29:17.900 away

00:29:18.160 from

00:29:18.360 her

00:29:18.500 by

00:29:18.640 Russian

00:29:18.920 collusion

00:29:19.380 well

00:29:19.860 we

00:29:20.120 already

00:29:20.380 know

00:29:20.600 that

00:29:20.760 there

00:29:20.920 was

00:29:21.160 some

00:29:21.340 form

00:29:21.560 of

00:29:21.680 Russia

00:29:21.880 collusion

00:29:22.280 right

00:29:22.520 we

00:29:22.700 already

00:29:22.920 know

00:29:23.180 that

00:29:23.400 like

00:29:23.600 yes

00:29:23.860 that

00:29:24.100 some

00:29:24.300 of

00:29:24.420 DNC

00:29:24.940 hacks 0.98

00:29:25.260 for

00:29:25.440 instance

00:29:25.720 was

00:29:26.140 done

00:29:26.380 by

00:29:26.620 Russia

00:29:26.980 that

00:29:27.340 there

00:29:27.460 was

00:29:27.580 coordination

00:29:28.060 between

00:29:28.480 the

00:29:28.880 Guccifer

00:29:29.200 people

00:29:29.560 and

00:29:29.740 WikiLeaks

00:29:30.200 in order

00:29:30.480 to

00:29:30.660 time

00:29:30.940 leaks

00:29:31.180 to

00:29:31.340 damage

00:29:31.600 Hillary 0.96

00:29:31.840 Clinton's

00:29:32.180 campaign

00:29:32.560 we

00:29:32.900 already

00:29:33.060 know

00:29:33.240 from

00:29:33.400 the

00:29:33.520 Mueller

00:29:33.720 indictments

00:29:34.200 that

00:29:34.300 there

00:29:34.420 was

00:29:34.540 a

00:29:34.680 company

00:29:34.920 set up

00:29:35.240 in

00:29:35.380 the

00:29:35.480 United

00:29:35.680 States

00:29:36.000 one

00:29:36.180 of

00:29:36.280 them

00:29:36.380 being

00:29:36.520 the

00:29:36.660 internet

00:29:36.880 research

00:29:37.260 agency

00:29:37.700 that

00:29:38.100 was

00:29:38.260 literally

00:29:38.620 setting up

00:29:39.300 protests

00:29:39.900 where they

00:29:40.280 were

00:29:40.400 organizing

00:29:40.840 both

00:29:41.200 sides

00:29:41.520 of it

00:29:41.740 to turn

00:29:42.160 Americans

00:29:42.500 against

00:29:42.760 each

00:29:42.940 other

00:29:43.000 we

00:29:43.100 already

00:29:43.280 know

00:29:43.480 that

00:29:43.640 10

00:29:44.060 GOP

00:29:44.500 account

00:29:44.840 that

00:29:45.120 had

00:29:45.260 more

00:29:45.560 followers

00:29:45.980 than

00:29:46.140 the

00:29:46.260 actual

00:29:46.560 Tennessee

00:29:46.920 GOP

00:29:47.340 account

00:29:47.580 was

00:29:47.900 ran

00:29:48.180 by

00:29:48.360 people

00:29:48.660 that

00:29:48.780 were

00:29:48.880 operating

00:29:49.200 the

00:29:49.380 Kremlin

00:29:49.600 we

00:29:50.040 know

00:29:50.240 that

00:29:50.380 that's

00:29:50.580 real

00:29:50.900 now

00:29:51.320 whether

00:29:51.580 or not

00:29:51.860 Trump

00:29:52.380 himself

00:29:52.820 was

00:29:53.020 personally

00:29:53.380 making

00:29:53.600 requests

00:29:53.900 well

00:29:54.080 he

00:29:54.200 did

00:29:54.320 on

00:29:54.460 TV

00:29:54.700 but

00:29:54.900 maybe

00:29:55.080 that

00:29:55.220 was

00:29:55.320 a joke

00:29:55.560 right

00:29:55.920 like

00:29:56.140 that

00:29:56.360 maybe

00:29:56.780 wasn't

00:29:57.160 proven

00:29:57.460 as

00:29:57.660 much

00:29:57.840 but

00:29:57.960 yeah

00:29:58.180 we

00:29:58.320 know

00:29:58.440 there

00:29:58.640 was

00:29:58.760 some

00:29:58.940 level

00:29:59.200 of

00:29:59.360 Russian

00:29:59.600 meddling

00:29:59.940 in order

00:30:00.420 to try

00:30:00.740 and get

00:30:00.940 Trump

00:30:01.120 elected

00:30:01.420 we

00:30:01.820 do

00:30:02.140 know

00:30:02.340 that

00:30:02.540 and

00:30:02.680 I

00:30:02.920 as

00:30:03.200 someone

00:30:03.420 who's

00:30:03.640 from

00:30:03.780 Russia

00:30:03.980 believe

00:30:04.300 me

00:30:04.460 I

00:30:04.640 know

00:30:05.000 all

00:30:05.160 about

00:30:05.380 the

00:30:05.540 bot

00:30:05.700 farms

00:30:05.960 and

00:30:06.100 whatever

00:30:06.320 I

00:30:06.560 just

00:30:06.760 I

00:30:07.140 you

00:30:07.600 say

00:30:07.880 that

00:30:08.100 Donald

00:30:08.380 Trump

00:30:08.680 to

00:30:08.860 this

00:30:09.040 day

00:30:09.220 believes

00:30:09.620 that

00:30:09.780 he

00:30:09.940 didn't

00:30:10.220 lose

00:30:10.460 the

00:30:10.600 election

00:30:10.860 I

00:30:11.480 agree

00:30:11.740 with

00:30:11.940 that

00:30:12.100 and I

00:30:12.320 think

00:30:12.460 he's

00:30:12.660 wrong

00:30:12.880 does

00:30:13.800 Hillary 0.96

00:30:14.080 Clinton

00:30:14.420 believe

00:30:14.740 she

00:30:14.900 didn't

00:30:15.100 lose

00:30:15.320 the

00:30:15.460 election

00:30:15.680 I'm

00:30:16.120 pretty

00:30:16.340 sure

00:30:16.680 she

00:30:17.040 believes

00:30:17.660 the

00:30:17.800 election

00:30:18.020 was

00:30:18.220 taken

00:30:18.460 away

00:30:18.700 from

00:30:18.880 her

00:30:19.060 unfairly

00:30:19.580 well

00:30:20.060 again

00:30:20.720 she

00:30:21.120 believes

00:30:22.000 that

00:30:22.320 she

00:30:22.460 lost

00:30:22.800 the

00:30:22.980 election

00:30:23.400 she's

00:30:23.840 just

00:30:23.980 going

00:30:24.080 to

00:30:24.180 argue

00:30:24.420 over

00:30:24.740 what

00:30:25.100 were

00:30:25.220 the

00:30:25.340 causes

00:30:25.680 that

00:30:25.920 happened

00:30:26.240 that

00:30:26.560 made

00:30:26.740 the

00:30:26.840 election

00:30:27.080 go

00:30:27.240 the

00:30:27.360 way

00:30:27.480 that

00:30:27.580 it

00:30:27.680 did

00:30:27.900 but

00:30:28.220 that's

00:30:28.420 fundamentally

00:30:28.860 different

00:30:29.200 than

00:30:29.380 saying

00:30:29.560 the

00:30:29.740 vote

00:30:30.140 totals

00:30:30.720 were

00:30:30.920 rigged

00:30:31.380 it's

00:30:31.760 a

00:30:31.920 totally

00:30:32.340 wildly

00:30:32.780 different

00:30:33.080 claim

00:30:33.420 I

00:30:33.620 see

00:30:33.800 your

00:30:33.940 point

00:30:34.100 that's

00:30:34.340 a

00:30:34.400 fair

00:30:34.540 point

00:30:34.800 and

00:30:35.560 what

00:30:36.420 would

00:30:36.780 you

00:30:36.940 say

00:30:37.240 to

00:30:37.420 those

00:30:37.640 people

00:30:37.940 who

00:30:38.120 go

00:30:38.320 look

00:30:38.620 you

00:30:38.940 know

00:30:39.040 most

00:30:39.460 of

00:30:39.660 the

00:30:39.800 republicans

00:30:40.920 at

00:30:41.200 the

00:30:41.360 time

00:30:41.680 didn't

00:30:42.460 want

00:30:42.720 Trump

00:30:43.120 Trump

00:30:43.980 has

00:30:44.260 a

00:30:44.480 different

00:30:44.900 fan

00:30:45.380 base

00:30:46.540 to

00:30:47.800 a lot

00:30:48.600 of

00:30:48.740 the

00:30:49.420 republican

00:30:49.920 party

00:30:50.540 he

00:30:50.760 brings

00:30:51.120 his

00:30:51.300 own

00:30:51.540 people

00:30:51.880 with

00:30:52.140 him

00:30:52.320 a

00:30:52.820 voter

00:30:53.080 base

00:30:53.380 that

00:30:53.580 has

00:30:53.820 been

00:30:54.040 untapped

00:30:54.760 for a

00:30:55.100 long

00:30:55.280 time

00:30:55.720 who

00:30:56.120 have

00:30:56.260 been

00:30:56.420 neglected

00:30:56.940 who

00:30:57.220 are

00:30:57.420 a

00:30:57.720 sizable

00:30:58.120 portion

00:30:58.460 of

00:30:58.680 them

00:30:58.860 were

00:30:59.200 Bernie

00:30:59.800 Sanders

00:31:00.220 fans

00:31:00.700 so

00:31:01.660 what

00:31:02.120 would

00:31:02.740 you

00:31:02.860 say

00:31:03.060 to

00:31:03.220 them

00:31:03.480 and

00:31:04.040 that

00:31:04.200 particular

00:31:04.580 argument

00:31:05.080 look

00:31:06.460 at

00:31:06.600 any

00:31:06.880 polling

00:31:07.220 data

00:31:07.440 ever

00:31:07.760 Trump

00:31:09.240 enjoys

00:31:09.900 wide

00:31:10.440 and

00:31:10.660 broad

00:31:10.980 support

00:31:11.360 from

00:31:11.520 the

00:31:11.620 republican

00:31:11.860 party

00:31:12.200 he

00:31:12.360 didn't

00:31:12.520 bring

00:31:12.700 over

00:31:12.880 that

00:31:13.100 many

00:31:13.320 bernie

00:31:13.560 voters

00:31:13.940 trump

00:31:15.320 was

00:31:15.460 a

00:31:15.560 very

00:31:15.740 popular

00:31:16.200 he

00:31:16.420 won

00:31:16.660 a

00:31:16.880 huge

00:31:17.140 primary

00:31:17.600 like

00:31:18.000 he

00:31:18.200 smashed

00:31:18.740 it

00:31:18.980 with

00:31:19.380 republicans

00:31:20.060 the

00:31:21.340 idea

00:31:21.580 that

00:31:21.760 Trump

00:31:21.960 just

00:31:22.140 brought

00:31:22.320 some

00:31:22.540 voters

00:31:22.820 out

00:31:22.960 of

00:31:23.060 nowhere

00:31:23.320 or

00:31:23.500 something

00:31:23.740 is

00:31:24.620 just

00:31:25.060 yeah

00:31:25.300 that's

00:31:25.540 he

00:31:25.860 did

00:31:26.060 he

00:31:26.340 brought

00:31:26.600 a lot

00:31:26.880 of

00:31:26.960 people

00:31:27.220 out

00:31:27.500 who

00:31:27.720 never

00:31:28.020 voted

00:31:28.340 for

00:31:28.600 anyone

00:31:28.920 as

00:31:29.140 well

00:31:29.360 it

00:31:29.620 happened

00:31:29.880 the

00:31:30.060 same

00:31:30.200 with

00:31:30.320 Brexit

00:31:37.760 most

00:31:38.320 republican

00:31:38.960 voter

00:31:39.340 bases

00:31:39.580 there

00:31:39.980 wasn't

00:31:40.520 I'm

00:31:41.100 not

00:31:41.220 aware

00:31:41.420 of

00:31:41.560 this

00:31:41.700 like

00:31:41.900 a

00:31:42.940 whole

00:31:43.080 bunch

00:31:43.260 of

00:31:43.360 I'm

00:31:43.720 sure

00:31:43.820 there

00:31:43.920 were

00:31:43.980 a lot

00:31:44.120 of

00:31:44.220 new

00:31:44.360 voters

00:31:44.620 because

00:31:44.800 it

00:31:44.880 was

00:31:44.980 a

00:31:45.160 really

00:31:45.280 big

00:31:45.540 election

00:31:45.920 same

00:31:46.180 thing

00:31:46.320 with

00:31:46.460 Obama

00:31:46.820 but

00:31:48.080 it's

00:31:48.240 not

00:31:48.340 like

00:31:48.480 he

00:31:48.600 brought

00:31:49.640 out

00:31:49.840 some

00:31:50.040 never

00:31:50.280 before

00:31:50.560 seen

00:31:50.840 voter

00:31:51.080 base

00:31:51.320 of

00:31:51.460 a

00:31:51.700 group

00:31:51.980 of

00:31:52.100 people

00:31:52.280 that

00:31:52.400 were

00:31:52.500 untapped

00:31:52.900 or

00:31:53.000 whatever

00:31:53.180 he

00:31:55.260 still

00:31:55.480 enjoys

00:31:55.780 broad

00:31:56.000 support

00:31:56.220 the

00:31:56.340 Republican

00:31:56.580 party

00:31:56.860 from

00:31:57.060 standard

00:31:57.360 Republican

00:31:57.700 voters

00:31:58.100 again

00:31:59.380 I'm

00:32:01.940 not a

00:32:02.220 Trump

00:32:02.420 fan

00:32:02.660 I want

00:32:02.900 to make

00:32:03.140 that

00:32:03.320 clear

00:32:03.560 not a

00:32:03.880 Trump

00:32:04.060 supporter

00:32:04.440 in any

00:32:04.760 shape

00:32:05.020 or form

00:32:05.780 he's

00:32:06.080 a

00:32:06.180 Trump

00:32:06.400 enthusiast

00:32:06.960 I've

00:32:08.480 got the

00:32:08.740 poster

00:32:09.040 above my

00:32:09.460 bed

00:32:09.680 but

00:32:10.220 when

00:32:11.220 people

00:32:11.660 talk

00:32:12.280 about

00:32:12.500 Trump

00:32:12.740 particularly

00:32:13.140 people

00:32:13.680 on the

00:32:14.140 left

00:32:14.420 and

00:32:14.820 they're

00:32:15.020 very

00:32:15.180 critical

00:32:15.680 of

00:32:16.220 him

00:32:16.420 and

00:32:17.160 this

00:32:17.760 happens

00:32:18.060 for

00:32:18.260 Brexit

00:32:18.600 as

00:32:18.960 well

00:32:19.220 my

00:32:19.820 response

00:32:20.380 is

00:32:20.620 always

00:32:21.100 the

00:32:21.620 left

00:32:21.900 created

00:32:22.500 Trump

00:32:22.940 the

00:32:23.440 left

00:32:23.660 created

00:32:24.200 Brexit

00:32:24.660 because

00:32:25.460 there

00:32:25.960 was

00:32:26.120 a

00:32:26.280 whole

00:32:26.980 swath

00:32:27.480 of

00:32:27.740 people

00:32:28.100 in

00:32:28.980 the

00:32:29.100 United

00:32:29.340 States

00:32:29.820 in

00:32:30.140 Britain

00:32:30.480 that

00:32:30.880 have

00:32:31.060 felt

00:32:31.300 left

00:32:31.680 behind

00:32:32.140 with

00:32:32.520 the

00:32:32.640 electoral

00:32:33.260 system

00:32:33.900 they

00:32:34.340 feel

00:32:34.580 that

00:32:34.740 the

00:32:34.860 elites

00:32:35.160 don't

00:32:35.420 represent

00:32:35.820 them

00:32:36.080 they've

00:32:36.360 never

00:32:36.520 cared

00:32:36.920 about

00:32:37.240 them

00:32:37.480 you know

00:32:38.260 they've

00:32:38.560 seen

00:32:38.760 deindustrialisation

00:32:39.980 they've

00:32:40.320 seen

00:32:40.500 their jobs

00:32:41.100 their societies

00:32:41.780 be absolutely

00:32:42.580 gutted

00:32:43.160 financially

00:32:43.720 their hearts

00:32:44.280 and souls

00:32:44.660 ripped out 0.74

00:32:45.120 of them

00:32:45.400 and

00:32:46.160 the

00:32:46.980 parties

00:32:47.460 like

00:32:47.860 Labour

00:32:48.180 or

00:32:48.460 Democrats

00:32:48.960 who

00:32:49.140 always

00:32:49.400 purported

00:32:50.140 to

00:32:50.740 support

00:32:51.520 who

00:32:51.900 always

00:32:52.220 purported

00:32:52.800 to

00:32:52.960 care

00:32:53.300 about

00:32:53.800 the

00:32:53.960 working

00:32:54.240 classes

00:32:54.720 effectively

00:32:55.360 abandon

00:32:55.880 them

00:32:56.120 so

00:32:56.500 when

00:32:56.720 this

00:32:56.960 person

00:32:57.360 came

00:32:57.700 in

00:32:57.980 I

00:32:58.920 always

00:32:59.280 say

00:32:59.660 to

00:32:59.800 them

00:32:59.940 and

00:33:00.100 again

00:33:00.400 I'm

00:33:00.760 on

00:33:00.900 the

00:33:01.020 left

00:33:01.240 may

00:33:01.440 I

00:33:01.500 reiterate

00:33:01.840 that

00:33:02.200 it's

00:33:02.860 our

00:33:03.100 fault

00:33:03.380 we

00:33:04.200 didn't

00:33:04.540 care

00:33:04.800 about

00:33:05.100 them

00:33:05.320 so

00:33:05.800 we

00:33:06.040 have

00:33:06.180 helped

00:33:06.400 to

00:33:06.580 create

00:33:06.860 this

00:33:07.080 phenomenon

00:33:07.480 I

00:33:09.160 mean

00:33:09.320 yeah

00:33:09.520 people

00:33:09.740 can

00:33:09.900 say

00:33:10.080 that

00:33:10.220 but

00:33:10.320 I

00:33:10.380 mean

00:33:10.480 that's

00:33:10.800 kind

00:33:10.960 of

00:33:11.060 like

00:33:11.240 the

00:33:11.600 that's

00:33:12.160 just

00:33:12.280 like

00:33:12.460 the

00:33:12.680 rhythm

00:33:13.340 of

00:33:13.560 politics

00:33:14.020 throughout

00:33:14.280 all

00:33:14.520 of

00:33:14.680 humankind

00:33:15.080 right

00:33:15.400 like

00:33:15.620 arguably

00:33:16.220 the

00:33:16.500 left

00:33:16.720 created

00:33:17.160 Trump

00:33:17.520 for

00:33:17.740 sure

00:33:18.020 but

00:33:26.500 United

00:33:26.760 States

00:33:27.240 the

00:33:28.100 super

00:33:28.640 anti

00:33:28.980 LGBT

00:33:29.440 obsession

00:33:30.020 the

00:33:30.420 like

00:33:30.740 all

00:33:30.980 of

00:33:31.060 that

00:33:31.200 stuff

00:33:31.440 of

00:33:31.660 course

00:33:31.880 that

00:33:32.060 created

00:33:32.380 this

00:33:32.580 fervent

00:33:33.000 left

00:33:33.280 that

00:33:33.460 was

00:33:33.580 like

00:33:33.740 oh

00:33:33.920 well

00:33:34.060 I 0.53

00:33:34.160 hate 1.00

00:33:34.300 you 1.00

00:33:34.460 guys

00:33:34.700 we

00:33:34.940 need

00:33:35.060 to

00:33:35.120 have 0.96

00:33:35.220 gay 0.99

00:33:35.400 marriage

00:33:35.760 and

00:33:35.980 you

00:33:36.320 know

00:33:36.380 you

00:33:36.520 guys

00:33:36.680 are

00:33:36.780 against

00:33:36.960 abortion

00:33:37.240 so

00:33:37.700 I

00:33:56.500 agree

00:33:56.800 that

00:33:57.000 things

00:33:57.280 have

00:33:57.420 become

00:33:57.700 more

00:33:58.000 heated

00:33:58.400 now

00:33:58.760 so

00:33:59.400 I

00:34:02.000 guess

00:34:02.200 my

00:34:02.380 question

00:34:02.720 is

00:34:02.960 to

00:34:03.080 you

00:34:03.240 as

00:34:03.380 somebody

00:34:03.660 who

00:34:03.860 is

00:34:03.960 very

00:34:04.400 intelligent

00:34:04.860 and

00:34:05.120 understands

00:34:05.680 politics

00:34:06.280 how

00:34:07.020 do

00:34:07.220 we

00:34:07.380 take

00:34:07.680 the

00:34:07.880 temperature

00:34:08.320 down

00:34:08.660 how

00:34:09.080 do

00:34:09.220 we

00:34:09.340 get

00:34:09.520 better

00:34:09.960 candidates

00:34:10.600 for

00:34:11.120 America

00:34:11.660 because

00:34:12.320 I

00:34:12.680 think

00:34:12.840 we

00:34:12.980 can

00:34:13.120 both

00:34:13.400 agree

00:34:13.720 Biden

00:34:14.220 and

00:34:14.480 Trump

00:34:14.760 don't

00:34:15.140 represent

00:34:15.520 the

00:34:15.740 best

00:34:15.960 of

00:34:16.080 your

00:34:16.220 country

00:34:16.680 well

00:34:17.480 Biden

00:34:17.960 Biden

00:34:18.740 represents

00:34:19.740 a lot

00:34:20.060 of

00:34:20.140 good

00:34:20.240 America

00:34:20.520 but

00:34:20.760 obviously

00:34:21.640 as a

00:34:21.880 Biden

00:34:22.040 fan

00:34:22.240 I

00:34:22.340 would

00:34:22.440 say

00:34:26.500 it's

00:34:28.480 given

00:34:28.760 us

00:34:28.980 the

00:34:29.120 ability

00:34:29.480 to

00:34:29.840 self

00:34:30.260 segregate

00:34:30.900 in

00:34:31.080 ways

00:34:31.340 that

00:34:31.500 we

00:34:31.620 never

00:34:31.960 have

00:34:32.260 before

00:34:32.620 I

00:34:33.040 can

00:34:33.200 hyper

00:34:33.500 fixate

00:34:33.920 and

00:34:34.060 find

00:34:34.320 any

00:34:34.680 piece

00:34:34.940 of

00:34:35.040 information

00:34:35.460 that

00:34:35.660 I

00:34:35.780 want

00:34:36.060 to

00:34:36.220 support

00:34:36.520 any

00:34:36.760 story

00:34:37.080 that

00:34:37.220 I

00:34:37.320 want

00:34:37.540 and

00:34:37.820 I

00:34:37.960 can

00:34:38.080 join

00:34:38.260 another

00:34:38.480 group

00:34:38.700 of

00:34:38.820 people

00:34:39.060 and

00:34:39.220 we

00:34:39.320 can

00:34:39.420 share

00:34:39.900 it

00:34:40.020 amongst

00:34:40.260 ourselves

00:34:40.680 and

00:34:41.080 there

00:34:41.200 are

00:34:41.300 huge

00:34:41.720 financial

00:34:42.180 incentives

00:34:42.640 for

00:34:42.920 honing

00:34:43.540 in

00:34:43.760 on

00:34:43.880 the

00:34:44.000 pieces

00:34:44.240 of

00:34:44.360 information

00:34:44.720 that

00:34:44.900 people

00:34:45.120 want

00:34:45.360 and

00:34:45.500 serving

00:34:45.760 it

00:34:45.920 to

00:34:46.040 them

00:34:46.240 and

00:34:46.700 I

00:34:46.780 think

00:34:46.900 all

00:34:47.140 of

00:34:47.260 these

00:34:47.420 things

00:34:47.740 play

00:34:48.440 toxically

00:34:49.700 on

00:34:50.000 human

00:34:50.420 psychology

00:34:50.920 and

00:34:51.220 combined

00:34:51.560 with

00:34:51.700 capitalism

00:34:52.140 basically

00:34:53.220 make

00:34:53.520 this

00:34:53.700 huge

00:34:53.980 pot

00:34:54.260 of

00:34:54.400 gold

00:34:54.600 waiting

00:34:54.880 for

00:34:55.060 anybody

00:34:55.340 that

00:34:55.500 can

00:34:55.600 serve

00:34:56.300 you

00:34:56.460 the

00:34:56.820 most

00:34:57.100 content

00:34:57.480 that

00:34:57.660 you

00:34:57.760 want

00:34:57.980 that

00:34:58.100 agrees

00:34:58.360 with

00:34:58.500 what

00:34:58.600 you

00:34:58.700 agree

00:34:59.060 with

00:34:59.220 over

00:34:59.420 and

00:34:59.780 over

00:34:59.900 again

00:35:00.480 I

00:35:01.180 think

00:35:01.580 the

00:35:01.720 internet

00:35:01.980 has

00:35:02.160 uniquely

00:35:02.660 accelerated

00:35:03.260 that

00:35:03.460 problem

00:35:03.840 I

00:35:04.540 couldn't

00:35:04.820 agree

00:35:05.060 with you

00:35:05.320 more

00:35:05.500 man

00:35:05.700 and

00:35:05.940 we

00:35:06.140 do

00:35:06.520 our

00:35:06.700 best

00:35:06.940 to

00:35:07.140 stay

00:35:07.560 away

00:35:07.800 from

00:35:07.980 that

00:35:08.140 when

00:35:16.240 so

00:35:17.540 you

00:35:18.780 answered

00:35:19.260 very

00:35:19.640 well

00:35:19.940 for

00:35:20.100 answers

00:35:20.320 questions

00:35:20.760 about

00:35:21.140 where

00:35:21.340 it's

00:35:21.460 coming

00:35:21.720 from

00:35:22.080 but

00:35:22.500 you

00:35:22.600 didn't

00:35:22.820 answer

00:35:23.120 how

00:35:23.420 do

00:35:23.600 we

00:35:23.900 address

00:35:24.640 it

00:35:24.860 what

00:35:25.080 do

00:35:25.220 you

00:35:25.320 think

00:35:25.600 this

00:35:29.600 is

00:35:29.720 where

00:35:29.820 I

00:35:29.900 give

00:35:30.040 you

00:35:30.140 the

00:35:30.240 answer

00:35:30.440 that

00:35:30.580 I

00:35:30.680 shouted

00:35:30.940 at

00:35:31.060 you

00:35:31.120 for

00:35:31.260 giving

00:35:31.400 me

00:35:31.540 about

00:35:31.720 the

00:35:31.900 family

00:35:32.220 stuff

00:35:32.480 it's

00:35:33.160 a

00:35:33.280 big

00:35:33.480 problem

00:35:33.920 this

00:35:35.540 is

00:35:36.460 the

00:35:36.600 number

00:35:36.820 one

00:35:37.060 issue

00:35:37.440 I

00:35:39.300 agree

00:35:40.020 it's

00:35:40.220 the

00:35:40.300 number

00:35:40.440 one

00:35:40.640 issue

00:35:40.840 by

00:35:41.000 the

00:35:41.080 way

00:35:41.280 in

00:35:41.660 order

00:35:43.740 to

00:35:44.180 fix

00:35:44.380 anything

00:35:44.820 first

00:35:45.140 you

00:35:45.260 have

00:35:45.360 to

00:35:45.480 recognize

00:35:45.880 what

00:35:46.040 the

00:35:46.140 problem

00:35:46.400 is

00:35:46.700 but

00:35:47.000 most

00:35:47.220 people

00:35:47.400 won't

00:35:47.720 actually

00:35:48.000 recognize

00:35:48.440 the

00:35:48.600 problem

00:35:48.900 I'm

00:35:49.860 33

00:35:50.300 when I

00:35:50.780 was

00:35:50.900 a

00:35:51.020 kid

00:35:51.240 there

00:35:51.940 was

00:35:52.080 this

00:35:52.260 idea

00:35:52.620 that

00:35:52.860 the

00:35:52.980 internet

00:35:53.180 was

00:35:53.360 going

00:35:53.460 to

00:35:53.500 be

00:35:53.580 this

00:35:53.740 amazing

00:35:54.180 thing

00:35:54.580 because

00:35:54.800 now

00:35:55.020 you

00:35:55.180 can

00:35:55.360 look

00:35:55.700 up

00:35:55.880 whatever

00:35:56.140 piece

00:35:56.400 of

00:35:56.500 information

00:35:56.820 you

00:35:57.020 want

00:35:57.240 you've

00:35:57.400 got

00:35:57.500 so

00:35:57.720 much

00:35:57.940 at

00:35:58.060 your

00:35:58.180 fingertips

00:35:58.560 a lot

00:35:59.640 of

00:35:59.740 the

00:35:59.860 internet

00:36:00.140 and

00:36:00.340 the

00:36:00.460 information

00:36:00.980 age

00:36:01.540 rests

00:36:02.360 on

00:36:02.680 this

00:36:02.920 absolutely

00:36:03.840 faulty

00:36:04.360 idea

00:36:04.840 that

00:36:05.080 humans

00:36:05.560 are

00:36:15.140 and

00:36:16.000 as

00:36:16.320 the

00:36:16.480 internet

00:36:16.720 gets

00:36:17.000 larger

00:36:17.520 and

00:36:17.680 larger

00:36:17.940 and

00:36:18.100 more

00:36:18.240 information

00:36:18.620 is

00:36:18.780 put

00:36:18.940 out

00:36:19.100 there

00:36:19.280 people

00:36:19.880 keep

00:36:20.120 saying

00:36:20.440 the

00:36:20.660 studies

00:36:21.000 are

00:36:21.140 available

00:36:21.500 there's

00:36:22.000 Wikipedia

00:36:22.420 there's

00:36:22.900 fact

00:36:23.140 checkers

00:36:23.520 there's

00:36:23.760 YouTube

00:36:24.820 there's

00:36:25.020 all this

00:36:25.200 stuff

00:36:25.360 you should

00:36:25.640 know

00:36:25.800 what's

00:36:25.980 true

00:36:26.180 and

00:36:26.280 what's

00:36:26.460 not

00:36:26.600 true

00:36:26.820 it

00:36:27.300 doesn't

00:36:27.520 make

00:36:27.660 any

00:36:27.840 the

00:36:28.060 reason

00:36:28.280 why

00:36:28.420 that

00:36:28.580 doesn't

00:36:28.860 work

00:36:29.100 is

00:36:29.220 because

00:36:29.360 people

00:36:29.600 aren't

00:36:29.800 seeking

00:36:30.140 out

00:36:30.360 what's

00:36:30.580 true

00:36:30.900 they're

00:36:31.280 seeking

00:36:31.480 out

00:36:31.620 what's

00:36:31.820 entertaining

00:36:32.360 or what

00:36:32.840 makes

00:36:32.980 them feel

00:36:33.280 good about

00:36:33.600 themselves

00:36:45.140 to do

00:36:45.500 on

00:36:45.640 the

00:36:45.760 show

00:36:45.980 is

00:36:46.120 to

00:36:46.280 genuinely

00:36:46.680 seek

00:36:47.060 truth

00:36:47.340 and

00:36:47.500 to

00:36:47.660 change

00:36:47.920 our

00:36:48.080 mind

00:36:48.280 when

00:36:48.460 we're

00:36:48.660 confronted

00:36:49.040 with

00:36:49.300 facts

00:36:49.640 and

00:36:49.840 to

00:36:50.080 discuss

00:36:50.840 things

00:36:51.100 with

00:36:51.220 people

00:36:51.480 who

00:36:51.640 have

00:36:51.760 different

00:36:52.060 opinions

00:36:52.440 and

00:36:53.000 our

00:36:53.200 audience

00:36:53.600 some

00:36:54.220 of

00:36:54.360 them

00:36:54.480 like

00:36:54.760 it

00:36:54.900 some

00:36:55.080 of

00:36:55.180 they

00:36:55.300 don't

00:36:55.540 but

00:36:55.740 generally

00:36:56.080 speaking

00:36:56.420 we

00:36:56.600 don't

00:36:56.760 give

00:36:56.920 a 1.00

00:36:57.040 shit 1.00

00:36:57.200 because 1.00

00:36:57.400 we

00:36:57.580 believe

00:36:57.900 that's

00:36:58.220 the

00:36:58.360 mission

00:36:58.580 of

00:36:58.740 trigonometry

00:36:59.260 and

00:36:59.860 the

00:37:00.060 people

00:37:00.300 who

00:37:00.500 want

00:37:00.780 that

00:37:01.000 will

00:37:01.180 come

00:37:01.460 and

00:37:01.660 we

00:37:01.840 see

00:37:02.060 we

00:37:02.260 just

00:37:02.440 interviewed

00:37:02.760 a

00:37:02.920 guy

00:37:03.120 called

00:37:03.740 Isaac

00:37:04.740 Saul

00:37:05.180 who's

00:37:05.740 created

00:37:06.140 a

00:37:06.380 website

00:37:06.840 which

00:37:07.140 is

00:37:07.260 like

00:37:07.420 a

00:37:07.560 media

00:37:08.240 website

00:37:09.080 that

00:37:09.260 both

00:37:09.500 conservatives

00:37:10.020 and

00:37:10.280 liberals

00:37:10.600 rate

00:37:10.980 very

00:37:11.240 highly

00:37:11.540 on

00:37:11.740 trust

00:37:12.080 because

00:37:12.520 it

00:37:13.140 covers

00:37:13.600 things

00:37:13.940 objectively

00:37:14.500 and

00:37:14.860 so

00:37:15.560 do

00:37:15.860 you

00:37:15.920 not

00:37:16.040 think

00:37:16.260 like

00:37:16.540 you

00:37:16.640 were

00:37:16.740 talking

00:37:16.940 about

00:37:17.160 politics

00:37:17.600 where

00:37:17.800 you

00:37:17.920 get

00:37:18.100 action

00:37:18.440 reaction

00:37:18.900 there

00:37:19.440 will

00:37:19.580 also

00:37:19.860 be

00:37:20.080 a

00:37:20.240 reaction

00:37:20.680 against

00:37:21.360 this

00:37:21.860 echo

00:37:22.240 chamberness

00:37:22.980 that

00:37:23.780 we

00:37:24.000 are

00:37:24.220 seeing

00:37:24.700 now

00:37:25.040 and

00:37:25.160 you

00:37:26.520 yourself

00:37:27.280 aren't

00:37:27.800 you

00:37:27.900 an

00:37:28.000 example

00:37:28.340 of

00:37:28.540 this

00:37:28.720 you

00:37:29.200 were

00:37:32.760 I

00:37:36.360 try

00:37:36.660 not

00:37:36.840 to

00:37:37.000 but

00:37:37.120 the

00:37:37.240 difference

00:37:37.500 is

00:37:37.720 I

00:37:38.180 go

00:37:38.360 out

00:37:38.540 of

00:37:38.620 my

00:37:38.760 way

00:37:39.020 to

00:37:39.200 make

00:37:39.720 sure

00:37:42.140 I'm

00:37:42.400 not

00:37:42.700 doing

00:37:43.120 the

00:37:43.260 echo

00:37:43.480 chamber

00:37:43.780 thing

00:37:44.140 for

00:37:45.760 instance

00:37:46.180 for

00:37:46.540 any

00:37:46.760 topic

00:37:47.220 that

00:37:47.420 I

00:37:47.540 debate

00:37:47.940 I

00:37:48.260 can

00:37:48.400 always

00:37:48.940 convincingly

00:37:49.580 debate

00:37:49.800 the

00:37:49.960 other

00:37:50.120 side

00:37:50.340 there's

00:37:50.560 not

00:37:50.660 a

00:37:50.780 single

00:37:51.140 issue

00:37:51.460 that

00:37:51.600 I

00:37:51.700 argue

00:37:51.960 on

00:37:52.220 better

00:37:54.440 than

00:37:54.620 anybody

00:37:55.060 that

00:37:55.580 would

00:37:55.760 debate

00:37:55.960 on

00:37:56.120 it

00:37:56.180 because

00:37:56.320 I've

00:37:56.480 heard

00:37:56.620 all

00:37:56.760 the

00:37:56.920 best

00:37:57.080 arguments

00:37:57.400 for

00:37:57.640 it

00:37:57.780 so

00:37:58.040 there's

00:37:58.200 a

00:37:58.300 lot

00:37:58.420 of

00:37:58.540 clips

00:37:58.780 of

00:37:58.920 me

00:37:59.020 arguing

00:37:59.660 this

00:38:00.640 is

00:38:00.800 why

00:38:00.980 the

00:38:01.160 holocaust 0.90

00:38:01.640 didn't

00:38:01.860 happen

00:38:02.120 or

00:38:02.280 this

00:38:02.440 is

00:38:02.560 why 0.99

00:38:02.740 black 0.78

00:38:02.980 people 0.81

00:38:03.280 deserve

00:38:03.700 whatever

00:38:04.000 blah

00:38:04.180 blah

00:38:04.280 blah

00:38:04.400 and

00:38:04.720 it's

00:38:04.860 just

00:38:04.960 me

00:38:05.120 providing

00:38:05.500 the

00:38:05.660 other

00:38:05.820 side

00:38:06.080 and

00:38:06.180 like

00:38:06.300 this

00:38:06.440 is

00:38:06.540 what

00:38:06.660 they

00:38:06.780 would

00:38:06.920 say

00:38:07.080 people

00:38:09.480 would

00:38:09.680 clip

00:38:09.840 it

00:38:09.940 and

00:38:10.000 go

00:38:10.080 oh

00:38:10.240 my

00:38:10.340 destiny

00:38:10.760 but

00:38:11.720 I'm

00:38:11.820 just

00:38:11.960 saying

00:38:12.120 that

00:38:12.240 like

00:38:12.420 so

00:38:12.620 that's

00:38:12.960 one

00:38:13.180 thing

00:38:13.400 I'll

00:38:13.520 do

00:38:13.640 right

00:38:13.800 I'll

00:38:13.900 make

00:38:14.040 sure

00:38:14.180 that

00:38:14.280 okay

00:38:14.620 yeah

00:38:14.840 you know

00:38:15.120 whatever

00:38:15.340 I'm

00:38:15.860 arguing

00:38:16.200 I can

00:38:16.480 always

00:38:16.840 argue

00:38:17.020 the

00:38:17.140 other

00:38:17.280 side

00:38:17.520 I'm

00:38:17.700 not

00:38:17.840 just

00:38:18.100 giving

00:38:18.340 my

00:38:18.540 points

00:38:18.840 that's

00:38:19.280 one

00:38:19.440 thing

00:38:19.600 a second

00:38:19.920 thing

00:38:20.100 I'll

00:38:20.220 do

00:38:20.400 is

00:38:20.660 anytime

00:38:21.620 I hold

00:38:22.320 a position

00:38:22.760 on

00:38:22.960 anything

00:38:23.320 I'll

00:38:23.800 always

00:38:24.020 ask

00:38:24.260 myself

00:38:24.520 the

00:38:24.660 question

00:38:24.960 what

00:38:25.320 would

00:38:25.460 it

00:38:25.580 take

00:38:25.740 to

00:38:25.880 change

00:38:26.120 my

00:38:26.300 mind

00:38:26.520 on

00:38:26.620 a

00:38:26.700 particular

00:38:26.980 issue

00:38:27.380 and

00:38:27.740 if

00:38:27.820 I

00:38:27.880 don't

00:38:28.000 have

00:38:28.280 an

00:38:28.380 answer

00:38:28.680 for that

00:38:29.000 if

00:38:29.120 there's

00:38:29.280 nothing

00:38:29.620 that would

00:38:29.820 change

00:38:29.980 my mind

00:38:30.180 then I

00:38:30.560 know

00:38:30.740 I'm

00:38:30.940 getting

00:38:31.080 lost

00:38:31.440 down

00:38:31.620 some

00:38:31.820 type

00:38:32.080 of

00:38:32.220 echo

00:38:32.700 chamber

00:38:33.040 there's

00:38:34.560 a bunch

00:38:34.740 of

00:38:34.820 other

00:38:34.940 smaller

00:38:35.200 things

00:38:35.480 but

00:38:35.620 those

00:38:35.880 are

00:38:35.980 two

00:38:36.120 big

00:38:36.340 things

00:38:36.560 that I'll

00:38:36.720 try to

00:38:36.940 keep

00:38:37.120 in mind

00:38:37.400 when it

00:38:37.640 comes

00:38:37.860 to

00:38:38.080 forming

00:38:38.660 and

00:38:39.240 solidifying

00:38:39.820 my

00:38:39.980 political

00:38:40.220 opinions

00:38:40.560 and arguing

00:38:41.020 with other

00:38:41.340 people

00:38:41.640 but I

00:38:42.160 find that

00:38:42.580 a lot

00:38:42.940 of people

00:38:43.260 don't do

00:38:43.960 any of

00:38:44.560 these

00:38:44.660 things

00:38:44.760 there's

00:38:44.900 a lot

00:38:45.160 of

00:38:45.260 people

00:38:45.480 how strongly

00:38:46.860 do you believe

00:38:47.280 in this

00:38:47.520 thing

00:38:47.760 what is the

00:38:48.360 strength

00:38:48.580 of your

00:38:48.760 conviction

00:38:49.120 oh I would

00:38:49.840 say it's

00:38:50.060 a 9 out

00:38:50.600 of 10

00:38:50.940 wow

00:38:51.820 how much

00:38:52.960 research

00:38:53.300 do you do

00:38:53.640 well I

00:38:54.200 listen to

00:38:54.520 Joe Rogan

00:38:55.000 podcast

00:38:55.320 on it

00:38:55.960 what would

00:38:56.920 it take

00:38:57.120 to change

00:38:57.380 your

00:38:57.500 mind

00:38:57.680 you have

00:38:59.240 a 9 out

00:38:59.700 of 10

00:38:59.960 conviction

00:39:00.380 on something

00:39:00.720 you heard

00:39:01.020 one time

00:39:01.420 on a podcast

00:39:01.900 and nothing

00:39:03.300 can change

00:39:03.620 your mind

00:39:03.900 over it

00:39:04.260 I think

00:39:05.300 that's the

00:39:05.560 majority

00:39:05.860 of people

00:39:06.140 you're making

00:39:07.100 good points

00:39:07.600 but that

00:39:08.000 isn't what

00:39:08.360 I was saying

00:39:08.780 what I was

00:39:09.180 saying is

00:39:09.600 if you are

00:39:10.260 seeking the

00:39:10.720 truth

00:39:11.020 as best

00:39:12.980 we can

00:39:13.380 we're not

00:39:13.720 perfect

00:39:14.100 none of us

00:39:14.560 none of the

00:39:14.960 three of us

00:39:15.360 are of course

00:39:15.860 but if we're

00:39:16.780 doing that

00:39:17.380 why don't you

00:39:19.440 think that other

00:39:20.020 people also

00:39:20.760 want that

00:39:21.280 I just don't

00:39:22.960 think there's

00:39:23.160 much of a

00:39:23.520 reward for it

00:39:24.300 it's pretty

00:39:24.840 rare

00:39:25.180 I built a

00:39:26.200 brand off

00:39:26.840 of that

00:39:27.140 kind of

00:39:27.440 stuff

00:39:27.720 but I've

00:39:27.960 also paid

00:39:28.360 a really

00:39:28.780 heavy price

00:39:29.220 for it

00:39:29.440 too

00:39:29.580 I'm lucky

00:39:30.140 that I'm

00:39:30.420 big enough

00:39:30.860 online

00:39:31.160 that I can

00:39:31.580 afford to

00:39:32.000 pay some

00:39:32.380 prices

00:39:32.760 but there's

00:39:34.500 a concept

00:39:36.380 called audience

00:39:37.120 capture

00:39:37.520 where you

00:39:37.880 begin to

00:39:38.280 deliver a

00:39:38.820 certain type

00:39:39.100 of content

00:39:39.520 your audience

00:39:39.980 likes it

00:39:40.460 and you keep

00:39:40.900 feeding them

00:39:41.360 what they

00:39:41.620 want

00:39:41.920 and that's

00:39:42.720 where most

00:39:43.300 of the

00:39:43.520 money online

00:39:44.220 is to be

00:39:44.840 made

00:39:45.180 people will

00:39:46.320 constantly

00:39:46.660 say this

00:39:47.060 thing

00:39:47.340 media

00:39:48.320 is a

00:39:49.560 reflection

00:39:49.940 of what

00:39:50.320 the people

00:39:50.680 want

00:39:51.020 but all

00:39:51.440 the people

00:39:51.700 do is

00:39:51.940 complain

00:39:52.200 about the

00:39:52.500 media

00:39:52.780 however

00:39:55.180 but then

00:39:58.160 you look

00:39:58.380 at the

00:39:58.540 media

00:39:58.700 they consume

00:39:59.120 they're not

00:39:59.400 watching

00:39:59.740 NPR

00:40:00.620 or PBS

00:40:01.320 or these

00:40:02.100 boring

00:40:02.480 dry

00:40:02.800 documentaries

00:40:03.240 they're

00:40:03.640 watching

00:40:03.880 people

00:40:04.140 screaming 0.51

00:40:04.520 at each

00:40:04.820 other

00:40:04.980 we need

00:40:05.560 to go 1.00

00:40:05.760 and kill 1.00

00:40:06.160 all of 1.00

00:40:06.720 these

00:40:06.840 people

00:40:07.080 you're

00:40:09.340 consuming

00:40:09.660 exactly

00:40:10.080 the type

00:40:10.440 of media

00:40:10.760 that is

00:40:11.080 being served

00:40:11.520 to you

00:40:11.700 I know

00:40:14.440 I keep

00:40:14.760 positioning

00:40:15.180 myself

00:40:15.560 as this

00:40:16.000 brilliant

00:40:16.340 counter

00:40:16.720 example

00:40:17.100 but I've

00:40:18.120 stopped

00:40:18.520 watching

00:40:19.040 lots of

00:40:19.700 people

00:40:19.980 who went

00:40:20.420 down

00:40:20.640 the

00:40:20.800 path

00:40:21.060 that you

00:40:21.260 talk

00:40:21.520 about

00:40:21.800 I'm

00:40:22.500 not

00:40:22.640 going

00:40:22.760 to name

00:40:23.040 names

00:40:23.360 but there

00:40:24.060 are lots

00:40:24.360 of people

00:40:24.680 who started

00:40:25.260 out

00:40:25.520 for example

00:40:26.160 being like

00:40:27.280 hey I'm

00:40:27.860 a liberal

00:40:28.260 I'm just

00:40:28.680 asking

00:40:29.000 questions

00:40:29.500 about

00:40:29.800 you know

00:40:30.220 and before

00:40:31.040 you know

00:40:31.400 it

00:40:31.540 they are

00:40:31.820 like this

00:40:32.180 massive

00:40:32.440 conservative

00:40:32.960 I'm like

00:40:33.440 well that's

00:40:33.840 not interesting

00:40:34.300 to me

00:40:34.740 right

00:40:35.160 and

00:40:35.860 that's

00:40:36.340 awesome

00:40:36.640 if you do

00:40:37.220 that

00:40:37.400 that's

00:40:37.680 awesome

00:40:37.960 but like

00:40:38.340 I'm pretty

00:40:38.600 sure

00:40:38.720 Tim Poole

00:40:39.100 is like

00:40:39.340 one of

00:40:39.520 the most

00:40:39.780 popular

00:40:40.160 like what

00:40:40.960 like second

00:40:41.360 or third

00:40:41.640 most popular

00:40:42.140 media

00:40:42.400 podcast

00:40:42.740 and that

00:40:44.400 guy is

00:40:44.920 that guy's

00:40:45.620 off the

00:40:45.980 wall a lot

00:40:46.520 you know

00:40:46.900 like yeah

00:40:47.280 well I've

00:40:48.340 been on his

00:40:48.840 show and I

00:40:49.460 challenged him

00:40:50.200 and he

00:40:50.360 immediately

00:40:50.700 unfollowed

00:40:51.160 me on

00:40:51.380 Twitter

00:40:51.600 afterwards

00:40:52.000 but that's

00:40:54.720 not my

00:40:54.980 point

00:40:55.200 my point

00:40:55.700 is

00:40:56.020 if there

00:40:56.900 are people

00:40:57.260 like you

00:40:57.740 and if

00:40:58.220 there are

00:40:58.380 people

00:40:58.600 like us

00:40:59.220 isn't

00:41:00.320 that actually

00:41:01.360 reason for

00:41:02.320 optimism

00:41:02.780 and if

00:41:03.860 we are

00:41:05.160 doing that

00:41:05.600 there have

00:41:05.860 got to be

00:41:06.200 other people

00:41:06.760 there who

00:41:07.080 are not

00:41:07.340 content

00:41:07.700 creators

00:41:08.180 who are

00:41:08.780 also

00:41:09.020 interested

00:41:09.420 in that

00:41:09.960 process

00:41:10.420 of

00:41:10.640 de-radicalization

00:41:11.660 if you

00:41:11.980 want to

00:41:12.200 call it

00:41:12.500 that

00:41:12.640 oh

00:41:12.920 sure

00:41:13.440 I think

00:41:13.740 it's

00:41:13.920 possible

00:41:14.340 yeah

00:41:14.620 I think

00:41:16.040 there is

00:41:16.360 cause to

00:41:16.740 be optimistic

00:41:17.080 for it

00:41:17.500 I think

00:41:18.000 something

00:41:18.260 that's

00:41:18.540 happened

00:41:18.860 over the

00:41:19.300 years

00:41:19.600 is

00:41:19.860 people

00:41:20.500 that are

00:41:20.840 correct

00:41:21.460 assume

00:41:22.160 that they

00:41:22.460 don't have

00:41:22.720 to dress

00:41:23.200 their message

00:41:23.660 up at all

00:41:24.100 because they're

00:41:24.540 factually

00:41:24.940 correct

00:41:25.340 and what's

00:41:25.940 happened

00:41:26.220 is over

00:41:26.900 the years

00:41:28.120 over a

00:41:28.940 decade

00:41:29.240 basically

00:41:30.580 people that

00:41:31.460 are I would

00:41:32.020 say are

00:41:32.360 incorrect

00:41:32.860 have spent

00:41:33.580 so much

00:41:34.040 time

00:41:34.460 dressing

00:41:34.920 their message

00:41:35.360 up to

00:41:35.640 make it

00:41:35.880 exciting

00:41:36.580 entertaining

00:41:37.360 easily

00:41:38.140 palatable

00:41:38.580 and they've

00:41:39.260 done a really

00:41:39.640 good job

00:41:39.920 of growing

00:41:40.140 audiences

00:41:40.600 while people

00:41:41.220 who are

00:41:41.760 I would say

00:41:42.540 more factually

00:41:43.060 correct

00:41:43.260 are just 0.98

00:41:43.620 lazy 0.99

00:41:43.980 and boring 0.97

00:41:44.580 and they

00:41:44.900 don't do

00:41:45.220 much to

00:41:45.600 make their

00:41:45.920 message

00:41:46.380 more digestible

00:41:48.280 to people

00:41:48.580 so

00:41:48.800 or even

00:41:51.720 myself

00:41:52.080 I would say

00:41:54.020 about myself

00:41:54.340 for a long

00:41:54.580 time

00:41:54.680 oh yeah

00:41:55.100 there's no

00:41:55.420 point in

00:41:55.680 arguing

00:41:55.920 this

00:41:56.080 people just

00:41:56.540 want sensational

00:41:57.020 content

00:41:57.400 but I think

00:41:58.320 if you put a lot

00:41:59.340 of effort

00:41:59.720 into making

00:42:00.500 good content

00:42:01.740 around stuff

00:42:02.800 that isn't

00:42:03.320 super politically

00:42:04.320 radical

00:42:04.640 I think you

00:42:05.080 can get viewers

00:42:05.680 doing it

00:42:05.960 that's my

00:42:06.460 current political

00:42:06.980 project

00:42:07.300 that's what

00:42:07.500 I'm trying

00:42:07.740 to do

00:42:07.940 that's what

00:42:08.660 we're saying

00:42:09.080 yeah

00:42:09.280 yeah

00:42:09.580 yeah

00:42:09.740 yeah

00:42:09.840 and I

00:42:11.260 think it's

00:42:11.700 important

00:42:12.140 as well

00:42:12.620 it's to

00:42:13.100 give

00:42:13.400 have faith

00:42:14.180 in your

00:42:14.600 in the

00:42:15.340 audience

00:42:15.980 and have

00:42:16.440 faith in

00:42:16.880 your fellow

00:42:17.260 human beings

00:42:18.020 because it's

00:42:18.740 very easy

00:42:19.680 you know

00:42:20.220 and I do

00:42:21.240 it as well

00:42:21.720 when you see

00:42:22.340 these you know

00:42:23.000 so and so

00:42:24.100 destroy so and so

00:42:24.900 whatever it may

00:42:25.700 be they get

00:42:26.100 huge views

00:42:26.840 you think

00:42:27.300 oh this

00:42:27.980 person

00:42:28.580 all these

00:42:29.440 people love

00:42:30.120 this

00:42:30.500 and he goes

00:42:31.400 just because

00:42:31.940 something is

00:42:32.540 popular

00:42:33.120 actually doesn't

00:42:34.440 mean that people

00:42:35.160 enjoy it

00:42:36.220 doesn't mean

00:42:37.240 that they find

00:42:37.880 it rewarding

00:42:38.620 you know

00:42:39.180 if you look

00:42:39.560 at the

00:42:39.780 mainstream

00:42:40.120 media

00:42:40.640 one of the

00:42:41.280 biggest

00:42:41.620 interviews

00:42:42.480 in the

00:42:43.200 history

00:42:43.540 of the

00:42:44.120 internet

00:42:44.500 in UK

00:42:45.840 media

00:42:46.400 was when

00:42:47.340 Channel 4

00:42:48.140 interviewed

00:42:49.080 Jordan Peterson

00:42:50.100 and it was

00:42:52.180 kind of a

00:42:52.700 gotcha style

00:42:53.400 interview

00:42:53.920 and that

00:42:54.620 produced the

00:42:56.360 saying so

00:42:56.840 what you're

00:42:57.180 saying is

00:42:57.820 right

00:42:58.180 because she

00:42:58.720 kept trying

00:42:59.140 to misrepresent

00:42:59.880 and it got

00:43:01.260 huge views

00:43:02.140 but it

00:43:03.100 really destroyed

00:43:04.020 Channel 4's

00:43:04.660 reputation

00:43:05.280 I mean there

00:43:06.340 are a lot

00:43:06.760 of people

00:43:07.300 and anecdotally

00:43:08.440 and people

00:43:09.180 that I

00:43:09.540 talked to

00:43:10.100 who saw

00:43:10.920 that as a

00:43:11.460 time when

00:43:11.840 the mainstream

00:43:12.300 media lost

00:43:12.940 their way

00:43:13.340 not just

00:43:13.820 Channel 4

00:43:14.440 so I think

00:43:15.360 it's important

00:43:15.940 to have faith

00:43:16.680 in people

00:43:17.140 and realize

00:43:18.160 that a lot

00:43:18.900 of people

00:43:19.440 want to be

00:43:20.460 treated like

00:43:21.080 adults as

00:43:21.620 well

00:43:21.900 yeah I mean

00:43:24.520 I would hope

00:43:25.200 so yeah

00:43:25.540 I mean that's

00:43:26.120 the direction

00:43:26.620 that I'm

00:43:26.980 pushing my

00:43:27.440 political content

00:43:28.160 so hopefully

00:43:28.960 yeah

00:43:29.240 and you said

00:43:30.580 you paid a

00:43:31.060 heavy price

00:43:31.740 for what

00:43:32.480 you would

00:43:32.860 for your

00:43:33.740 views

00:43:34.320 and your

00:43:35.840 opinions

00:43:36.240 what do you

00:43:36.820 mean by that

00:43:37.320 Destiny

00:43:37.620 what is the

00:43:38.120 heavy price

00:43:38.780 well I mean

00:43:40.480 I didn't tell

00:43:40.880 the line on

00:43:41.300 the Rittenhouse

00:43:41.760 thing

00:43:42.080 I felt pretty

00:43:42.580 strongly about

00:43:43.040 that and

00:43:43.400 it cost me

00:43:44.360 my partnership

00:43:44.860 on Twitch

00:43:46.000 I get into

00:43:47.600 fights with a

00:43:48.020 lot of

00:43:48.460 what I would

00:43:49.240 consider very

00:43:49.680 radical trans

00:43:50.300 people and

00:43:50.760 that I think

00:43:51.260 arguably cost me

00:43:51.920 my account on

00:43:52.500 Twitch

00:43:52.740 so yeah I

00:43:54.000 mean depending

00:43:54.340 on who I'm

00:43:54.720 fighting with at

00:43:55.160 any point in

00:43:55.600 time depending

00:43:56.720 on how

00:43:57.020 principled I

00:43:57.520 want to be in

00:43:57.840 my positions it

00:43:58.560 can get me into

00:43:59.100 a lot of

00:43:59.480 trouble

00:43:59.780 and what

00:44:00.900 was your

00:44:01.460 beef with

00:44:02.320 the trans

00:44:02.800 issue I'm

00:44:03.200 curious

00:44:03.520 I don't

00:44:05.380 believe that

00:44:05.780 trans women

00:44:06.440 and cis women 0.96

00:44:07.000 should be

00:44:07.340 competing together

00:44:07.940 in the same

00:44:08.340 athletic events

00:44:08.960 I don't think

00:44:09.380 that there's a

00:44:09.900 good argument

00:44:10.360 for that

00:44:10.800 you lost your

00:44:12.140 Twitch account

00:44:12.640 for that

00:44:13.160 I don't know

00:44:15.280 I can't

00:44:15.980 honestly tell you

00:44:17.000 all I know is

00:44:17.700 that my account

00:44:18.120 got banned the

00:44:18.600 next day for

00:44:19.300 it said

00:44:19.560 hateful speech

00:44:20.300 but they don't

00:44:21.100 tell you exactly

00:44:21.700 what it was

00:44:22.200 but I don't

00:44:22.800 use transphobic

00:44:24.360 slurs 0.98

00:44:24.680 I'm very pro

00:44:25.400 trans

00:44:25.600 I don't

00:44:26.280 use any

00:44:26.640 slurs 0.98

00:44:27.120 or anything

00:44:27.380 like that

00:44:27.740 so I don't

00:44:28.780 really know

00:44:29.140 what my

00:44:29.340 account

00:44:29.500 got banned

00:44:29.780 for

00:44:29.920 what does

00:44:30.540 it mean

00:44:30.800 that you're

00:44:31.100 very pro

00:44:31.600 trans

00:44:32.080 I think

00:44:34.100 that trans 0.92

00:44:34.500 people are

00:44:34.840 real

00:44:35.020 I think

00:44:35.300 that they're

00:44:35.500 entitled

00:44:35.780 to some

00:44:37.000 type of

00:44:37.280 medical

00:44:37.460 treatment

00:44:37.820 I probably

00:44:40.480 would support

00:44:40.960 minors seeking

00:44:41.700 medical treatment

00:44:42.200 depending on

00:44:42.680 the roadblocks

00:44:43.660 that are there

00:44:44.040 or the path

00:44:44.600 to getting

00:44:45.000 medical treatment

00:44:45.440 there just

00:44:45.760 depends on

00:44:46.020 the particular

00:44:46.360 issue

00:44:46.740 okay so

00:44:48.560 you would

00:44:49.540 see minors

00:44:50.580 what are we

00:44:51.060 talking about

00:44:51.580 with minors

00:44:52.360 destiny

00:44:52.700 at what age

00:44:53.780 would you say

00:44:54.540 somebody should

00:44:55.080 be allowed to

00:44:55.580 seek medical

00:44:57.120 treatment

00:44:57.580 all of it's

00:44:59.120 going to come

00:44:59.400 down to

00:45:00.040 what the

00:45:00.800 I guess what

00:45:01.360 clinically becomes

00:45:02.140 like the most

00:45:02.640 effective line

00:45:03.700 of treatment

00:45:04.100 but essentially

00:45:05.100 if somebody

00:45:06.060 knows

00:45:06.620 I think that

00:45:07.400 if by like

00:45:08.340 13 14

00:45:08.980 when you

00:45:09.440 especially when

00:45:09.840 you start going

00:45:10.100 through puberty

00:45:10.440 you're going to

00:45:10.780 know if you're

00:45:11.160 trans or not 0.99

00:45:11.560 you're going to

00:45:11.860 definitely feel

00:45:12.260 event now some

00:45:12.780 people might think

00:45:13.360 they're trans

00:45:13.700 but they're not

00:45:14.280 but if they are

00:45:14.980 trans they'll 1.00

00:45:15.460 know it then

00:45:16.000 so we need to

00:45:17.020 figure out better

00:45:17.520 forms of therapy

00:45:18.580 or counseling

00:45:19.100 to where we can

00:45:19.700 weed out the

00:45:20.280 people that

00:45:20.760 probably aren't

00:45:21.380 trans and are

00:45:21.800 having other

00:45:22.160 problems in their

00:45:22.740 life versus the 0.92

00:45:23.580 ones that

00:45:23.860 definitely are

00:45:25.580 can avoid them

00:45:26.120 going through

00:45:26.520 like I guess

00:45:27.160 like the

00:45:27.420 catastrophic

00:45:27.860 male puberty 0.74

00:45:28.460 for trans women

00:45:29.420 is the thing 1.00

00:45:29.780 that fucks 0.99

00:45:30.120 them up a lot 0.92

00:45:30.660 right well

00:45:32.340 would you agree

00:45:33.340 that's actually

00:45:34.500 I think a

00:45:35.580 quite a healthy

00:45:36.180 way to a large

00:45:37.220 extent of looking

00:45:37.760 at it which is

00:45:38.300 we need to make

00:45:38.920 sure that the

00:45:39.440 people who are

00:45:39.980 getting the

00:45:40.400 physical and

00:45:41.540 hormonal transition

00:45:42.800 really are the

00:45:43.940 ones that are

00:45:44.580 like definitely

00:45:45.420 definitely trans

00:45:46.400 because we've

00:45:48.740 seen in this

00:45:49.240 country I don't

00:45:49.720 know if you're

00:45:50.240 familiar with the

00:45:50.920 Tavistock clinic

00:45:51.920 and all the

00:45:54.300 associated things

00:45:55.200 that have been

00:45:55.560 going on in

00:45:56.040 this country

00:45:56.440 but we've

00:45:56.880 seen thousands

00:45:58.100 of people now

00:45:58.860 suing because

00:46:00.300 they were

00:46:01.100 encouraged to

00:46:01.720 transition when

00:46:02.780 perhaps it

00:46:03.800 wasn't the

00:46:04.180 right decision

00:46:04.700 for them

00:46:05.160 would you agree

00:46:06.440 that we probably

00:46:07.120 went too far in

00:46:08.240 that direction at

00:46:08.900 some point

00:46:09.320 it's possible that

00:46:10.900 the thing is it's

00:46:11.840 hard to say like

00:46:12.480 are we going too

00:46:13.420 far I'm sure that

00:46:14.460 you could find

00:46:14.900 examples of going

00:46:15.880 too far and

00:46:16.480 there's thousands

00:46:17.260 of examples this

00:46:18.340 is what I'm

00:46:18.780 saying thousands

00:46:19.640 of detransition

00:46:20.520 there's thousands

00:46:21.100 of people suing

00:46:21.920 sure I understand

00:46:22.820 what you're

00:46:23.020 saying but you

00:46:24.200 the UK has a

00:46:24.860 population like

00:46:25.360 70 million people

00:46:26.120 so when you say

00:46:26.540 thousands of

00:46:26.960 examples I don't

00:46:27.480 know if that

00:46:27.740 means much right

00:46:28.340 so I agree that

00:46:30.220 we can probably

00:46:30.580 find lots of

00:46:31.280 examples of

00:46:31.680 people going too

00:46:32.200 far but you

00:46:33.040 would have to

00:46:33.480 agree that there's

00:46:33.880 probably lots of

00:46:34.540 examples of not

00:46:35.140 going far enough

00:46:35.860 like I'm pretty

00:46:36.420 sure in the

00:46:36.760 United Kingdom

00:46:37.220 the wait time

00:46:38.000 for hormone

00:46:38.460 therapy or

00:46:39.040 related stuff even

00:46:39.820 if you have

00:46:40.240 gone through the

00:46:40.600 whole process

00:46:41.040 you're fully

00:46:41.380 approved it's

00:46:41.980 like two to

00:46:42.380 four years which

00:46:43.320 is horrible right

00:46:44.500 if we if we

00:46:45.080 this is what

00:46:46.100 happens when you

00:46:46.660 have socialized

00:46:47.380 health care you're

00:46:48.220 going to wait for

00:46:48.800 an ambulance for

00:46:51.920 the way you just

00:46:52.340 died because you

00:46:52.840 can't afford the

00:46:53.200 treatment so I

00:46:54.400 mean they're both

00:46:55.360 bad options

00:46:56.040 um yeah well I

00:46:58.160 mean you guys

00:46:58.520 spend way less on

00:46:59.480 your health care

00:47:00.080 than we do and

00:47:00.820 you we seem to

00:47:01.320 have comparable

00:47:01.700 outcomes so I

00:47:02.860 mean we do you

00:47:05.200 know that the

00:47:05.600 national health

00:47:06.200 service is like the

00:47:07.100 fourth biggest

00:47:08.040 employer in the

00:47:09.000 world I think in

00:47:10.040 this country so we

00:47:10.900 spend quite a lot

00:47:11.660 on health care let's

00:47:12.560 not yeah we still

00:47:13.800 spend probably in

00:47:14.680 the United States

00:47:15.040 but like four times

00:47:15.820 more US spending

00:47:17.460 on like if I

00:47:18.820 were to check like

00:47:19.300 the United States

00:47:19.680 spends more money

00:47:20.140 than anyone else

00:47:20.620 in the world on

00:47:21.200 health care it's

00:47:21.560 insane well of

00:47:22.280 course you're the

00:47:22.860 richest country in

00:47:23.580 the world but look

00:47:24.420 um let's come back

00:47:26.240 to the trans issue

00:47:26.960 because this is kind

00:47:27.620 of important yes I

00:47:29.340 am sure that there

00:47:30.480 are some trans people

00:47:31.520 for whom uh who

00:47:32.800 ended up having to

00:47:33.640 wait too long for

00:47:34.380 hormones I think

00:47:35.420 that's a lot less

00:47:36.360 bad than people no

00:47:38.020 offense I'm going to

00:47:38.680 put it quite bluntly 1.00

00:47:39.460 chopping the dick 1.00

00:47:40.160 off when they 1.00

00:47:40.580 didn't mean to

00:47:41.160 um yeah but like the

00:47:43.720 the problem is like

00:47:44.560 the less bad thing

00:47:45.960 like it feels like

00:47:47.420 any so let's see

00:47:49.280 a child chopping the 1.00

00:47:50.320 dick off seems like 1.00

00:47:51.040 quite a big problem

00:47:51.740 to me yeah but also

00:47:52.960 somebody killing

00:47:53.520 themselves because

00:47:54.040 they're not allowed

00:47:54.380 to get treatment

00:47:54.840 because conservatives

00:47:55.540 don't believe trans 1.00

00:47:56.080 people are real that's

00:47:56.620 also a really big

00:47:57.120 hold on hold on first 0.99

00:47:57.960 of all I'm not a

00:47:58.700 conservative secondly I

00:47:59.720 don't say you were but

00:48:00.760 I'm saying that's the

00:48:01.420 other end of the

00:48:01.920 argument you're arguing

00:48:02.560 with me not with

00:48:03.260 conservatives right so

00:48:04.580 let's have the debate

00:48:05.280 between me and you not

00:48:06.220 okay well but I'm not

00:48:07.020 in favor of children 1.00

00:48:08.000 chopping their dicks 0.99

00:48:08.600 off if they're not 0.99

00:48:09.020 actually trans so I

00:48:10.300 don't know who you're

00:48:10.720 arguing with for that

00:48:11.340 point right no no you

00:48:12.640 said that you I

00:48:14.880 actually agreed with you

00:48:16.020 I said I think you're

00:48:17.120 right to say that

00:48:18.440 that people need to

00:48:20.180 be weeded out I

00:48:20.940 think it was the

00:48:21.640 term you used yeah

00:48:22.520 to to make sure that

00:48:23.480 people who are going

00:48:24.160 through transition I

00:48:25.220 definitely definitely

00:48:26.380 definitely the people

00:48:27.780 who need it right and

00:48:28.980 what I'm saying to you

00:48:29.940 from my perspective we

00:48:31.300 have thousands of

00:48:32.040 people who did do

00:48:33.820 that who were not

00:48:35.020 actually trans and who

00:48:36.880 needed help for

00:48:37.680 autism or who needed

00:48:38.640 help for some other

00:48:40.420 kind of thing that

00:48:41.140 they were dealing

00:48:41.620 with right and isn't

00:48:43.220 that a problem that

00:48:45.360 shows that we went

00:48:46.500 way too far in that

00:48:47.560 direction causing

00:48:48.420 thousands of young

00:48:49.260 children to be

00:48:50.320 injured and maimed

00:48:51.860 for life okay are

00:48:53.460 you saying that in

00:48:54.100 the United Kingdom

00:48:54.880 there were thousands

00:48:56.120 of children given sex 0.65

00:48:57.440 reassignment surgery

00:48:58.420 like there were

00:48:59.360 thousands so if you

00:49:00.580 and we have thousands

00:49:01.540 of people suing the

00:49:02.640 Tavistock clinic there's

00:49:03.580 probably more than

00:49:04.200 that well hold on

00:49:04.940 hold on I'm asking

00:49:05.680 very specifically

00:49:06.120 because you're saying

00:49:06.960 that there were

00:49:07.380 thousands of children

00:49:08.160 UK that would be

00:49:08.900 tremendous if that

00:49:09.440 was the case you're

00:49:11.040 saying there are

00:49:11.380 thousands of children

00:49:12.380 minors under in the

00:49:14.840 UK is a 16 or 18 0.98

00:49:16.080 under 18 were had

00:49:17.900 sex reassignment

00:49:18.880 surgery that means

00:49:19.900 no no no they had

00:49:20.820 some form of medical

00:49:22.400 treatment in that

00:49:23.380 area so either

00:49:24.020 hormones oh what do 0.94

00:49:26.300 you mean oh hormones

00:49:27.160 change your biology

00:49:28.160 just just the same

00:49:29.340 well there's a huge

00:49:31.600 difference between a

00:49:32.980 15 year old went on

00:49:33.860 puberty blockers for a

00:49:34.840 year versus a 15 year 1.00

00:49:35.800 old had their penis 1.00

00:49:36.460 chopped off those are 1.00

00:49:37.760 not to say that either

00:49:38.760 is okay but like the

00:49:40.180 puberty blockers

00:49:40.680 my point neither is

00:49:41.660 okay but they're worlds

00:49:43.340 apart in terms of like

00:49:44.400 harm they're not

00:49:45.020 worlds apart if you

00:49:45.900 take puberty blockers

00:49:47.220 that has a huge impact

00:49:48.380 on fertility on your

00:49:49.820 life on your voice on

00:49:50.840 your physical appearance

00:49:51.780 we see people who who

00:49:53.260 are basically young

00:49:54.100 women with beards now 0.70

00:49:55.160 you think that's not a

00:49:56.300 big transition for

00:49:57.000 someone to go through

00:49:57.720 I didn't say it wasn't

00:49:59.120 a big transition so

00:50:00.340 that's all I'm saying

00:50:01.040 no no no hold on you

00:50:02.180 said that it's not

00:50:02.780 worlds apart I'm telling

00:50:03.940 you that it is world I

00:50:04.840 didn't say it's not

00:50:05.560 worlds apart yeah okay

00:50:07.860 I'm saying that it is

00:50:09.120 worlds apart the

00:50:09.860 difference between

00:50:10.280 being on puberty

00:50:10.840 blockers for a year

00:50:11.540 versus having your 0.76

00:50:12.360 genitals changed is 0.79

00:50:15.300 huge right of course

00:50:18.520 health can be bad okay

00:50:19.280 okay the difference

00:50:20.040 between being punched

00:50:21.100 in the face and

00:50:22.020 beaten endlessly in the

00:50:23.480 face is quite big I

00:50:24.960 think that a young

00:50:26.080 child being punched in

00:50:26.960 the face is bad sure

00:50:28.200 okay yeah I agree with

00:50:28.980 that okay if it is the

00:50:30.480 case that there are

00:50:31.160 people that are

00:50:32.540 inappropriately issued

00:50:34.240 or prescribed

00:50:34.740 medications or whatever 0.98

00:50:35.580 as minors that sucks 0.97

00:50:37.800 what we have to figure out 0.98

00:50:39.260 is like what is the

00:50:40.000 cost benefit right

00:50:40.980 like let's say for

00:50:42.140 instance the case that

00:50:42.980 10 children per year are

00:50:45.060 prescribed something that

00:50:45.960 they didn't need and

00:50:47.140 10,000 children per year

00:50:48.440 are prescribed something

00:50:49.020 they did need that

00:50:49.960 probably be an

00:50:50.480 acceptable trade-off but

00:50:51.700 if it's like a hundred

00:50:52.460 thousand children a year

00:50:53.400 giving something they

00:50:54.020 don't need and a

00:50:54.780 thousand children a year

00:50:55.480 giving something they do

00:50:56.000 need that would be a

00:50:56.600 totally unacceptable

00:50:57.320 trade-off right this is

00:50:58.780 what I'm saying we have

00:50:59.860 thousands of people

00:51:01.120 suing one clinic one

00:51:03.220 clinic in this country and

00:51:04.940 this problem is even worse

00:51:06.340 in the United States

00:51:07.060 statistically speaking

00:51:08.020 we have thousands of

00:51:09.460 people it is thousands

00:51:10.820 of people is it doing

00:51:12.060 one yes yes I don't

00:51:14.080 think it is well this is

00:51:15.340 where you and I might

00:51:16.040 agree because you have

00:51:17.300 you have paid medicine

00:51:19.080 there's the financial

00:51:20.440 incentive to encourage

00:51:21.540 this as well but just

00:51:22.620 stick with this point with

00:51:23.600 me right okay thousands

00:51:25.360 of children over a

00:51:26.600 thousand people suing

00:51:27.920 the Tavistock clinic

00:51:28.860 because they believe they

00:51:30.460 were giving the wrong

00:51:31.240 treatment in relation to

00:51:32.360 transition and it's my

00:51:33.640 view that the reason that

00:51:34.960 that happened is that there

00:51:36.200 was ideological capture you

00:51:37.640 talk about audience

00:51:38.340 capture there was

00:51:39.020 ideological capture in

00:51:40.640 these left-wing

00:51:41.580 institutions as we

00:51:42.520 talked about before that

00:51:43.880 encouraged this process

00:51:45.200 and ended up taking it

00:51:46.820 way way way past the

00:51:49.180 line that you and I

00:51:49.860 both agree is the right

00:51:52.200 line which is let's make

00:51:53.580 sure these people are

00:51:54.440 definitely trans before we

00:51:55.560 start cutting things off

00:51:56.460 them yeah I mean I yeah

00:51:59.500 I'm not sure where the

00:52:00.400 disagreement is like if

00:52:01.640 there are medical

00:52:02.680 practitioners I'm asking

00:52:03.920 you do you think we went

00:52:05.120 too far given that those

00:52:06.480 were the results

00:52:07.160 holistically no for this

00:52:09.760 one clinic yeah possibly

00:52:11.200 it sounds like it you're

00:52:12.000 saying that they're going

00:52:12.580 to be in the process of

00:52:13.380 suing them I don't know

00:52:13.980 what that case is going to

00:52:14.620 look like until it starts

00:52:15.560 to play on the courts but

00:52:16.400 it could be the case of

00:52:17.420 this clinic went too far

00:52:18.240 yeah okay if a thousand

00:52:19.980 women sued me on 1.00

00:52:21.840 allegations of sexual

00:52:22.800 harassment would you

00:52:23.640 conclude that I was a

00:52:24.540 stand-up guy no right

00:52:27.200 that's kind of what I'm

00:52:28.160 getting at no no no no

00:52:29.240 no do you see the

00:52:29.820 difference though if you

00:52:30.540 would ask me do you

00:52:31.780 think that the Tavistock

00:52:33.140 clinic went too far I

00:52:34.580 would say yeah of

00:52:35.120 course it sounds like it

00:52:35.780 for sure it does but

00:52:36.980 you're not asking me

00:52:37.580 you're asking me if the

00:52:38.300 whole of trans stuff in 0.62

00:52:40.200 the world has gone too

00:52:41.180 far and then you're

00:52:42.040 studying me one court

00:52:42.800 case that is that hasn't

00:52:44.720 even started yet where

00:52:46.220 families might sue the

00:52:47.580 Tavistock I mean I

00:52:49.440 personally know like 10

00:52:51.820 people that I've spoken

00:52:54.280 to who are detransitioners 0.99

00:52:55.980 who were encouraged down

00:52:57.480 this path in your

00:52:58.120 country not ours that that

00:53:00.680 are public about it now

00:53:02.740 imagine how much it

00:53:04.300 takes to go public after

00:53:05.760 you've gone through that

00:53:06.640 I imagine there's quite a

00:53:08.000 lot of people in America

00:53:08.860 who've gone through the

00:53:09.600 same process who are not

00:53:10.440 happy about it yeah but

00:53:11.620 there's probably a lot of

00:53:12.280 other people on the other

00:53:13.020 side too who are trans and

00:53:14.480 could never get medical

00:53:15.220 treatment or was never

00:53:16.120 taken seriously or had

00:53:17.600 horrible problems their

00:53:18.400 whole lives and nobody

00:53:19.000 saw them either right I

00:53:21.360 mean I don't agree with

00:53:22.160 that but let's let's

00:53:23.140 let's hold on how can you

00:53:25.240 not agree with that you

00:53:26.340 don't think that they're

00:53:26.900 you're suggesting that in

00:53:29.640 the current climate there

00:53:30.700 are people who are being

00:53:31.480 denied transition yeah if

00:53:33.940 you live in like Louisiana 0.97

00:53:35.080 or Indiana or Mississippi

00:53:36.700 or if you're one of these

00:53:37.620 states or whatever you

00:53:38.180 don't think some of these

00:53:38.680 people can be born to

00:53:39.240 families that don't believe

00:53:39.980 in trans people or in

00:53:40.960 communities that don't

00:53:41.720 think that trans people are 1.00

00:53:42.460 real they don't want to

00:53:43.400 come out or don't even

00:53:44.100 know about the idea of it

00:53:45.020 yeah of course I'm not

00:53:46.700 saying that and go to

00:53:47.840 another state that no in

00:53:50.400 the United States we don't

00:53:51.240 have buses like you guys

00:53:52.460 do okay we have school

00:53:53.500 okay can they not get on

00:53:54.840 a plane I mean I'm

00:53:55.960 serious no you can't

00:53:56.900 hold on get on a plane

00:53:58.000 come on can you just

00:53:58.860 rent a flat in London and

00:53:59.700 go work there no of

00:54:00.280 course these things are

00:54:00.680 expensive right um I'm

00:54:02.660 well I just want to be

00:54:03.660 clear what you can't

00:54:04.560 afford a $300 flight if

00:54:06.640 you're going to get

00:54:07.180 hundreds of thousands of

00:54:08.260 pounds or dollars of

00:54:09.260 surgery it's not just

00:54:11.980 about getting the surgery

00:54:12.980 you're jumping ahead to

00:54:13.900 the most radical thing a

00:54:15.840 lot of trans people that 1.00

00:54:16.760 are fully transitioned 0.98

00:54:17.560 don't even get sex 0.69

00:54:18.340 reassignment surgery

00:54:18.960 that's like the most

00:54:19.920 extreme thing but no I

00:54:21.220 don't think the average

00:54:21.800 teenager in the United

00:54:22.580 States who's 14 15 16

00:54:23.920 years old can afford a

00:54:25.480 $300 plane ticket I

00:54:26.820 don't think so I don't

00:54:27.880 even know if you're

00:54:28.140 allowed to fly as a

00:54:28.880 minor without an adult

00:54:29.900 accompanying you I'm

00:54:30.420 not sure you're not

00:54:30.820 allowed to fly but you're

00:54:31.780 allowed to chuck your 1.00

00:54:32.540 dick off that seems quite 1.00

00:54:33.660 extreme to me you're I

00:54:35.020 think okay I like I'm

00:54:37.740 acknowledging I'll make

00:54:39.060 the acknowledgement that

00:54:39.880 like there are there are

00:54:41.200 clinics and there are

00:54:41.940 people that have

00:54:42.520 suffered ideological

00:54:43.240 capture and have gone

00:54:43.800 too far with some of the

00:54:44.620 trans stuff I agree with

00:54:45.560 that in terms of

00:54:46.120 diagnosing people but to

00:54:47.640 say that like it's never

00:54:48.700 happened on the other

00:54:49.440 end I don't think that

00:54:50.480 that's an honest

00:54:50.940 engagement with the topic

00:54:51.500 that's not that's not

00:54:53.220 I'm not saying it's

00:54:53.940 never happened I'm just

00:54:54.940 saying I think we went

00:54:56.420 too far towards one side

00:54:58.140 rather than the other

00:54:59.240 and I will grant you 50

00:55:01.260 years ago yeah I don't

00:55:02.640 think trans people had a 1.00

00:55:03.660 great life I think we can

00:55:05.140 all agree on that okay

00:55:06.600 yeah okay good we'll leave

00:55:09.640 that there because I think

00:55:10.660 we've both said basically

00:55:11.940 what we both mean right

00:55:13.140 okay so just saying with the

00:55:15.360 trans issue but a different

00:55:17.700 part of it what do you

00:55:19.160 think about with gender ID

00:55:21.120 destiny somebody

00:55:23.060 identifying as a woman

00:55:24.620 and then having access to

00:55:26.360 women's spaces do you 1.00

00:55:28.120 think that that is do you

00:55:29.840 agree with that or do you

00:55:31.060 disagree with that I don't

00:55:33.160 I don't agree with the

00:55:33.940 self ID position at all

00:55:34.900 no okay interesting why

00:55:37.000 it just doesn't it's totally

00:55:39.920 incoherent position if we

00:55:42.080 believe that gender is real 1.00

00:55:43.120 which I think we used to

00:55:44.700 if trans people believe

00:55:45.600 that gender are real which

00:55:46.640 a lot of them do but some

00:55:47.600 of the more extreme ones

00:55:48.120 don't then that has to be

00:55:49.900 reducible to some real

00:55:51.220 facet of your brain and it

00:55:53.320 can't just be that you are

00:55:54.340 what you say you are that

00:55:55.260 doesn't make any sense

00:55:55.860 there has to be an

00:55:56.440 underlying fact of the

00:55:57.340 matter you can't just

00:55:57.960 identify something and be

00:55:58.980 something so yeah I don't

00:56:00.660 I don't think that you can

00:56:01.320 just identify as whatever

00:56:02.340 and then get access to

00:56:03.380 whatever there has to be

00:56:04.100 some process to verify or

00:56:05.740 validate whatever it is

00:56:06.540 you're identifying as

00:56:07.400 okay and do you think for

00:56:10.060 instance trans women should 0.99

00:56:11.580 have access to women's

00:56:12.660 spaces if the you know if

00:56:15.640 they've if there's they've

00:56:16.720 got a part of the way

00:56:17.780 there etc etc etc

00:56:19.380 um it depends on what

00:56:20.900 they present as I mean

00:56:22.560 like if they if they

00:56:23.520 present as a woman and

00:56:24.300 they look like a woman 0.99

00:56:24.820 and for all intents and

00:56:26.000 purposes seems like it

00:56:26.520 then yeah they probably

00:56:27.040 should yeah okay and

00:56:29.120 what about when it comes

00:56:30.620 to things like women's

00:56:31.720 refuges women's prisons 0.99

00:56:33.120 where there are vulnerable

00:56:34.700 women do you think that 1.00

00:56:36.100 should be a space for

00:56:37.300 biological women only 1.00

00:56:38.900 um almost certainly not

00:56:41.740 but those get more

00:56:42.400 complicated

00:56:42.940 why do you say almost

00:56:45.160 certainly not

00:56:45.780 uh because I because

00:56:48.180 nobody agrees with that

00:56:48.960 position that's insane

00:56:49.780 there are people who

00:56:52.300 certainly agree with that

00:56:53.340 position

00:56:53.580 that's only because they

00:56:54.760 haven't thought about it

00:56:55.480 much like

00:56:56.280 no no I would disagree

00:56:58.860 with that

00:56:59.240 do you have

00:56:59.840 hold on I'm curious

00:57:00.460 do either of you have

00:57:01.080 daughters

00:57:01.340 oh no

00:57:02.840 no okay if you had a do

00:57:04.660 you know who buck angel

00:57:05.260 is

00:57:05.600 yes we've had him on the

00:57:06.980 show we've interviewed

00:57:07.660 would you want your

00:57:08.580 daughter sharing a jail

00:57:09.800 cell or a shower or a

00:57:11.320 bathroom with buck angel

00:57:12.280 because that's a

00:57:13.020 biological female okay so 1.00

00:57:14.460 that's a biological female 1.00

00:57:15.840 so when people say like

00:57:16.600 only biological

00:57:17.360 like I don't know what

00:57:18.520 people mean by that that

00:57:19.340 sounds insane to me I

00:57:20.060 think that there are

00:57:20.700 people that have

00:57:21.160 transitioned far enough 1.00

00:57:22.260 where it's obvious they

00:57:23.520 should be housed

00:57:23.900 differently now if you're

00:57:24.880 like a huge burly guy

00:57:26.060 and you've got a huge

00:57:26.760 beard and huge muscles

00:57:27.720 and you're like well I'm a

00:57:28.500 I'm a woman and I 1.00

00:57:29.400 identify then no fuck you 1.00

00:57:30.740 either go somewhere else 1.00

00:57:31.420 or figure something else

00:57:31.980 about it but for people

00:57:32.860 that are like clearly

00:57:33.700 passing right like I

00:57:35.460 don't think I would want

00:57:36.060 to be in in some space

00:57:37.520 with my son if we go to

00:57:38.700 like a sauna or some 0.92

00:57:39.620 shit I don't know 0.85

00:57:40.000 people do that and all 1.00

00:57:41.020 of a sudden

00:57:41.280 somebody steps in and

00:57:42.040 they've got these huge

00:57:42.860 knockers these massive

00:57:43.920 you know 34 double triple

00:57:45.600 d's and I'm like whoa

00:57:46.900 what are you doing in

00:57:47.480 here that's a little bit

00:57:48.120 strange like oh well

00:57:49.000 I'm a biological male

00:57:50.160 even though I've got like

00:57:50.940 I'm fully passing and

00:57:52.080 fully like that's just

00:57:52.960 weird to me I think it's

00:57:53.800 going to depend a lot on

00:57:54.480 if the person is passing

00:57:55.380 or not

00:57:55.700 that makes sense

00:57:56.880 I find I agree with you

00:57:59.060 so and let's go to

00:58:00.780 another issue that I think

00:58:01.800 you and I probably will

00:58:02.740 agree on hopefully

00:58:03.880 which is the war in

00:58:05.560 Ukraine because I find

00:58:07.780 it absolutely mind

00:58:09.100 boggling how both the

00:58:10.120 section of the left and

00:58:11.080 right have come up with

00:58:12.500 all sorts of crazy 0.98

00:58:13.500 conspiracy shit about 0.97

00:58:14.700 that that they indulge 0.99

00:58:16.040 in simply because they

00:58:18.920 want to oppose the

00:58:19.960 current thing what have

00:58:21.660 you made of all of

00:58:22.300 that I said for a while

00:58:25.260 in the United States

00:58:25.920 probably around the

00:58:26.680 world there's kind of

00:58:27.340 this big like populist

00:58:28.540 rift and I think that

00:58:29.900 populists in general feel

00:58:31.680 a certain way about

00:58:32.320 things and there's a lot

00:58:32.980 of populists on the left

00:58:33.840 and right and so they

00:58:34.860 all kind of like come

00:58:35.540 together on how they view

00:58:36.640 a lot of the Ukrainian

00:58:37.260 stuff so like a populist

00:58:39.360 might tend to be like

00:58:40.200 isolationist or might

00:58:41.460 tend to be like not

00:58:42.480 involved in foreign

00:58:43.560 affairs so they'll see

00:58:44.500 us sending any money to

00:58:45.300 a country as like evil

00:58:46.260 or horrible and

00:58:47.360 everybody's got problems

00:58:48.140 with their countries in

00:58:48.780 the west so they'll say

00:58:49.680 like well Russia's better 1.00

00:58:50.660 or the west is corrupt 0.94

00:58:51.540 and blah blah blah or 0.92

00:58:52.960 they'll say things like I

00:58:53.600 don't trust western media

00:58:54.600 but then they'll start

00:58:55.320 giving you news from

00:58:56.060 Russia today like I don't 0.99

00:58:57.440 know it's all just I

00:58:58.060 think like my opinion

00:58:59.200 populism is like a brain

00:59:00.520 wrap but yeah I think it

00:59:02.140 all comes that's that's

00:59:02.940 what I find very odd in

00:59:03.940 people when people

00:59:04.760 rightly say they don't

00:59:05.900 trust the western

00:59:06.900 mainstream media I

00:59:07.720 think they're right not

00:59:08.400 to I think the way

00:59:09.240 the western mainstream

00:59:10.020 media but if you say

00:59:10.780 that you don't trust

00:59:11.240 western media and then

00:59:11.940 you cite me Russia

00:59:12.540 today all you've told

00:59:13.440 me is that you have

00:59:14.060 like 65 IQ or you're

00:59:15.400 in the middle of a

00:59:15.800 stroke like there's just

00:59:16.720 no shot you you said

00:59:18.140 it better than I ever

00:59:18.940 could or would well

00:59:20.500 said well guys send in

00:59:21.800 your questions for us

00:59:22.880 and destiny we've had a

00:59:24.220 robust debate about all

00:59:25.200 sorts of things or

00:59:25.820 maybe talk about a

00:59:27.900 couple of questions

00:59:28.660 that we had on locals

00:59:29.720 ask our last question

00:59:30.700 anything else you want

00:59:31.460 to bring up because I've

00:59:32.160 sort of talked over

00:59:33.080 no no no it's fine so

00:59:35.260 you're a big fan of

00:59:36.180 Biden then destiny

00:59:37.400 yeah I am yeah okay

00:59:39.920 and look there's I

00:59:41.460 know a lot of people

00:59:42.320 on on the left on the

00:59:43.680 democratic left who

00:59:44.760 really dislike Biden

00:59:46.120 he means his girlfriend

00:59:47.020 there's people you know

00:59:49.800 on the right who

00:59:50.640 obviously dislike Biden

00:59:52.040 there's people who say

00:59:53.900 you know that that

00:59:54.960 he's this is a man who

00:59:56.260 is very elderly he's in

00:59:57.740 cognitive decline that

00:59:59.200 he shouldn't be in

01:00:00.120 charge of the most

01:00:01.440 powerful nation in the

01:00:02.600 world so explain to us

01:00:04.040 why is it that you

01:00:05.180 lot are a Biden

01:00:06.280 supporter I think

01:00:08.500 Biden has done a

01:00:09.240 really good job at

01:00:10.320 quelling the radical

01:00:11.480 aspects of the left

01:00:12.440 and the party he was

01:00:13.240 really big on condemning

01:00:14.160 the violence during the

01:00:14.980 BLM riots which I 1.00

01:00:15.940 thought was really good

01:00:16.680 he hasn't acquiesced or

01:00:18.540 given into any of the

01:00:19.340 weird socialist commie 1.00

01:00:20.280 shit on the left which 1.00

01:00:21.120 I think is really good 0.98

01:00:21.880 he's done a fairly

01:00:24.140 admirable job or

01:00:25.200 actually a more than

01:00:25.800 admirable job of working

01:00:26.480 with Republican lawmakers

01:00:27.460 to pass like major

01:00:28.700 legislation which I

01:00:29.580 think is really good

01:00:30.280 he's repeatedly said

01:00:31.340 that he's trying to be

01:00:31.880 the president of both

01:00:32.560 the left and the

01:00:33.060 right when he's

01:00:33.780 calling out people on

01:00:34.540 the right he's trying

01:00:35.120 to specify that it's

01:00:36.100 like just the like

01:00:36.980 these mega people and

01:00:38.580 not necessarily all

01:00:39.320 Republicans yeah I

01:00:40.980 just think he's made

01:00:41.480 I think he's been like

01:00:42.240 legislatively effective

01:00:43.360 I think his foreign 1.00

01:00:44.020 policy has been pretty

01:00:44.880 good I think he's

01:00:45.980 just done all around

01:00:46.900 like way better than I

01:00:47.980 expected him to and

01:00:48.940 I hope he continues to

01:00:49.960 do decently yeah

01:00:50.560 right but don't you

01:00:51.540 think that's fairly

01:00:52.120 antagonistic about the

01:00:53.360 mega like surely if

01:00:54.640 you want somebody to

01:00:56.020 change their mind if

01:00:57.520 you want people to

01:00:58.440 come over to your side

01:01:00.380 to your way of

01:01:01.720 thinking or not even

01:01:02.680 that or adopt a more

01:01:04.080 mainstream position by

01:01:05.240 antagonizing those

01:01:06.220 people is that really

01:01:06.880 the right move I

01:01:09.360 mean any leader has

01:01:10.780 to be able to call

01:01:11.440 out like problematic

01:01:12.340 aspects of his team I

01:01:14.260 mean there is a huge

01:01:15.520 issue with people in

01:01:16.520 the United States that

01:01:17.200 still deny the results

01:01:18.280 of the last election so

01:01:19.840 I mean yeah you have to

01:01:20.780 be I think Francis

01:01:21.520 point is is is attacking

01:01:23.400 them going to convince

01:01:24.380 them otherwise I mean I

01:01:29.560 don't know if it's going

01:01:30.120 to convince them

01:01:30.460 otherwise but he has

01:01:31.100 to say something about

01:01:31.940 it he can't just remain

01:01:32.580 silent on the issue

01:01:33.400 where you've got this

01:01:33.940 growing wing in your

01:01:35.180 country that is denying

01:01:37.400 the results of the

01:01:38.240 election but wouldn't a

01:01:40.280 more conciliatory tone

01:01:41.700 wouldn't a tone that

01:01:42.620 actually tries to get

01:01:44.360 through to someone and

01:01:46.460 be more like I said

01:01:47.600 more conciliatory

01:01:48.580 there's nothing to be

01:01:51.000 conciliatory about

01:01:53.800 though these people are

01:01:54.760 saying that the election

01:01:55.600 was stolen that Biden is

01:01:56.800 a false president that

01:01:58.000 Biden is being controlled

01:01:59.000 and he's senile that the 0.74

01:02:00.700 all the vaccine stuff is

01:02:01.820 rigged and untrue like

01:02:02.940 there's nothing to

01:02:04.100 concede to these people

01:02:04.980 I don't think you can

01:02:05.520 concede anything they're

01:02:07.180 insane the mega aspect

01:02:09.140 of the Republican Party 1.00

01:02:09.840 is actually fucking crazy 1.00

01:02:10.820 and the Republicans are 1.00

01:02:11.880 starting to realize it

01:02:12.620 now as they're starting

01:02:13.240 to all break down

01:02:13.960 against each other

01:02:14.660 okay I'm curious about

01:02:17.200 the senile point because

01:02:18.480 I've not followed Joe

01:02:19.920 Biden's presidency that

01:02:21.160 closely I I actually

01:02:22.660 agree with you on on

01:02:24.160 aspects of his foreign

01:02:25.200 foreign policy and I

01:02:26.220 think you're right that

01:02:27.040 I mean he didn't go as

01:02:29.380 far to the extreme left

01:02:31.120 as someone else might

01:02:32.420 have done because I

01:02:33.120 think he's a sort of

01:02:33.840 center-left guy but do

01:02:36.520 you not cringe when you

01:02:37.580 see a clip of him

01:02:38.460 struggling to get a

01:02:39.420 sentence out

01:02:39.980 it's a little bit

01:02:41.480 cringy nowhere near as

01:02:42.480 cringy as Trump's daily 0.94

01:02:44.020 petulant child tweets

01:02:45.360 were though but I mean 0.63

01:02:46.600 those are pretty 0.96

01:02:47.660 fucking cringe I agree 0.99

01:02:48.640 also sometimes 0.98

01:02:49.380 entertaining but but

01:02:50.840 again you've gone to

01:02:51.760 like what about I think

01:02:53.560 our point

01:02:54.240 no yeah I mean like

01:02:55.020 Biden definitely is

01:02:56.280 slowing down in his

01:02:57.100 older years yeah of

01:02:57.860 course for sure he is

01:02:58.820 okay yeah okay I mean

01:03:00.640 like I only get to vote

01:03:01.380 on two people in my

01:03:02.100 federal election and I

01:03:03.140 agree I think Francis

01:03:05.360 earlier question was much

01:03:06.440 more apt which is like

01:03:07.380 are these two people the

01:03:08.360 best representatives of

01:03:09.460 America I hope I really

01:03:11.680 hope not is I guess how

01:03:13.660 I feel about it and

01:03:15.100 what about the

01:03:16.220 withdrawal from

01:03:16.780 Afghanistan do you 0.97

01:03:17.580 not think that was

01:03:18.100 major that was a that

01:03:19.420 majorly tarnished his

01:03:20.640 reputation the fact it

01:03:21.760 was so badly handled

01:03:23.400 um I all I all I'll

01:03:26.200 say is I'll give him

01:03:26.780 credit for actually

01:03:27.380 pulling out I mean

01:03:28.500 Trump had drawn our

01:03:29.380 troops down to like I

01:03:30.360 think four digit levels

01:03:31.260 there um I mean it

01:03:33.280 sucked that um I mean

01:03:35.760 obviously the images of

01:03:36.740 like people being

01:03:37.180 airlifted off of

01:03:37.780 embassies after Biden

01:03:38.440 said that wouldn't

01:03:38.820 happen was pretty 0.57

01:03:39.640 shitty but we got out

01:03:41.060 as well as we could

01:03:42.040 have um I mean yeah

01:03:43.760 what are you gonna do

01:03:44.400 all right let's do some

01:03:46.680 super chats if you're up

01:03:47.720 for it and we'll do

01:03:48.420 some more questions in a

01:03:49.440 second and can we

01:03:50.800 pull up the the super

01:03:52.040 chats we've had a bunch

01:03:53.180 send more in uh whether

01:03:54.960 you agree with destiny

01:03:55.940 or with us or with us

01:03:57.240 both or disagree with

01:03:58.140 all of us let let's

01:03:59.160 have some good uh

01:04:00.040 questions and talk

01:04:00.740 about it uh and we'll

01:04:02.140 get a couple of the

01:04:03.000 locals questions first

01:04:04.240 uh so Wuhan wet market

01:04:06.360 says as a joke that

01:04:07.400 will make him laugh

01:04:08.140 very hard you should

01:04:08.800 ask him what an nft is

01:04:10.080 I don't know what

01:04:10.600 that's about um a 0.99

01:04:12.140 dumb interview I did a 0.98

01:04:12.900 long time ago with a 0.98

01:04:13.720 guy who didn't know

01:04:14.240 what nfts were okay I

01:04:16.280 still don't really

01:04:17.040 particularly know but

01:04:17.960 he actually literally

01:04:18.980 nobody does so you're

01:04:20.220 good good uh he he

01:04:22.640 uh he mentions also

01:04:24.180 that you came under

01:04:26.040 fire for being a

01:04:26.960 is this true being an

01:04:28.520 acquaintance of Nick

01:04:29.280 Fuentes um I did a

01:04:32.040 lot of debates with um

01:04:33.620 Fuentes a lot of 0.99

01:04:34.540 people don't like it

01:04:35.340 when I um a lot of

01:04:36.940 people don't like it

01:04:37.300 when I talk to like

01:04:38.780 anybody that's like

01:04:39.660 radical on one side

01:04:40.480 or the other especially

01:04:41.100 on the right thing and

01:04:42.100 I had Fuentes was like

01:04:42.920 over my house and we

01:04:43.640 did conversations we

01:04:44.400 went out to eat and

01:04:44.980 did conversations and 0.99

01:04:45.780 shit a lot of people 0.99

01:04:46.220 got really triggered 0.99

01:04:46.800 about that so but yeah

01:04:48.220 it doesn't surprise

01:04:48.920 me I mean he does

01:04:49.640 strike me I mean all

01:04:51.140 your criticisms of the

01:04:52.380 republican right I

01:04:54.340 think multiply them

01:04:56.020 about by a thousand

01:04:57.080 add genuine racism

01:04:59.560 anti-semitism white

01:05:01.040 supremacy to that and

01:05:01.940 that's what you get

01:05:02.800 with Nick Fuentes

01:05:03.380 isn't it yeah yeah

01:05:05.520 okay yeah yeah

01:05:07.360 look but that clearly

01:05:09.880 I mean you clearly

01:05:10.680 believe that free speech

01:05:11.960 is important so you're

01:05:13.100 one of those people

01:05:13.780 that does yeah for

01:05:15.600 sure I mean I would

01:05:16.400 hope that like through

01:05:17.160 enough conversations

01:05:17.900 that you can show

01:05:18.660 that like these ideas

01:05:19.400 are not good or are

01:05:20.160 wrong or like I think

01:05:21.160 it's a more effective

01:05:21.700 way of combating things

01:05:22.580 than just like screaming

01:05:23.220 people down or saying

01:05:24.100 that we can't talk to

01:05:24.820 these people or whatever

01:05:25.480 I don't I don't believe

01:05:26.200 in that approach and

01:05:27.240 how did your debate

01:05:28.180 with him go I thought

01:05:30.100 all of them went really

01:05:30.600 well we had a huge

01:05:32.240 thing on 9-11 that I

01:05:33.380 thought was like pretty

01:05:33.980 funny and then we had

01:05:35.560 a couple conversations

01:05:36.160 that I thought went

01:05:37.220 pretty well for me but

01:05:37.920 yeah and John Bryce

01:05:40.680 says do you believe

01:05:41.940 woke ideology is the way

01:05:43.560 of the future for the

01:05:44.460 West or is it a

01:05:45.340 passing fad

01:05:46.140 it's probably some

01:05:48.020 kind of fad everything

01:05:48.740 seems to be a fad these

01:05:49.620 days we'll see where we

01:05:50.660 end up in a few years

01:05:51.500 yeah

01:05:51.760 let's

01:05:54.120 are you able to pull

01:05:55.200 super chats up well

01:05:55.900 let's go let's get one

01:05:56.780 up yeah there we go

01:05:57.760 so this is from

01:05:58.580 Brendan O'Leary and he

01:05:59.920 says capitalism is

01:06:01.480 evolution socialism is

01:06:03.520 creationism and

01:06:04.860 communism is its

01:06:06.500 intelligent design theory

01:06:07.940 discuss

01:06:08.740 intelligence we're back

01:06:11.100 at university here

01:06:12.260 yeah wait

01:06:12.840 it's on the screen you

01:06:15.680 should be able to see

01:06:16.320 it but I think what

01:06:17.060 Brendan is basically

01:06:17.900 saying is

01:06:18.680 socialism and

01:06:20.140 communism are 1.00

01:06:21.220 as dumb as 1.00

01:06:22.560 denying evolution 1.00

01:06:24.120 but I get the sense

01:06:25.660 that you're not

01:06:26.020 particularly in favor of

01:06:27.100 those things anyway

01:06:27.800 right so

01:06:28.400 yeah no I'm a huge

01:06:29.680 anti-socialism

01:06:30.760 communism is super 1.00

01:06:31.780 stupid 1.00

01:06:32.140 yeah 1.00

01:06:33.020 okay

01:06:33.400 cool

01:06:34.040 next

01:06:34.700 okay and this is

01:06:36.880 calm from calm on the

01:06:37.840 ground

01:06:38.120 do you think destiny

01:06:40.760 there's a problem with

01:06:41.400 the voting system and

01:06:42.840 if there is who do you

01:06:43.940 blame for that

01:06:44.660 I think the voting

01:06:46.360 system works really

01:06:47.100 well I think the issue

01:06:48.100 that we have in the

01:06:48.660 United States is that

01:06:49.800 people

01:06:50.980 the issue is that the

01:06:53.180 voting system right now

01:06:54.080 is expressing the will

01:06:54.860 of the people really

01:06:55.520 well which is that we 0.97

01:06:56.420 are historically fucking 0.99

01:06:57.420 divided and we all hate 1.00

01:06:58.180 each other

01:06:58.520 so I mean like yeah I

01:07:00.820 think the voting system

01:07:01.360 works fine people are

01:07:02.240 just mad because

01:07:02.720 nothing's happening but

01:07:03.480 nothing's happening

01:07:03.980 because I think we're

01:07:04.500 super divided

01:07:05.100 that's well what about

01:07:06.160 how long it takes to

01:07:07.320 get the results I

01:07:08.120 mean there are like

01:07:08.800 third world countries

01:07:09.740 that can get the

01:07:10.400 results on the day and

01:07:11.360 you guys have to wait

01:07:12.200 for weeks often

01:07:12.900 I mean it depends on

01:07:15.020 how we do the types of

01:07:16.000 votes but if you don't

01:07:16.580 like it I guess change

01:07:17.220 the way the votes are

01:07:17.800 counted but I mean

01:07:18.880 there are also probably

01:07:19.760 third world countries

01:07:20.340 that rig their voting

01:07:20.980 system and there are I

01:07:22.100 don't know how many

01:07:22.480 people are voting in

01:07:23.220 different types of

01:07:23.820 countries but yeah

01:07:24.800 like Brazil got the

01:07:26.160 results on the night

01:07:27.140 okay

01:07:28.160 it's quite a lot of

01:07:28.840 people in Brazil

01:07:29.380 good for Brazil

01:07:30.280 okay so you're not

01:07:32.300 bothered by that no

01:07:33.140 worse

01:07:33.420 thank you next Anton

01:07:35.420 let's go

01:07:36.000 uh Richard the

01:07:37.220 horse says how much

01:07:38.120 do you think your

01:07:38.720 views are purely based

01:07:39.980 on fact versus your

01:07:41.280 interpretation of fact

01:07:42.640 based on your values or

01:07:44.000 view of human nature

01:07:44.960 um I mean I'm going to

01:07:46.860 give you the answer that

01:07:47.700 every single person will

01:07:48.580 give you and I'm going 0.99

01:07:49.100 to say I hope all of my

01:07:50.080 views are based on fact

01:07:51.140 um or I mean I guess

01:07:52.840 your interpretation of

01:07:53.640 facts is how a person

01:07:54.380 views facts but um

01:07:55.520 yeah

01:07:56.080 okay

01:07:57.680 uh next please Anton

01:08:00.600 one sec

01:08:03.580 we actually

01:08:05.560 Destiny we didn't ask

01:08:06.480 you the question we

01:08:07.300 always ask at the end

01:08:08.200 which is what do you

01:08:09.900 think is the one thing

01:08:10.800 that we're not talking

01:08:11.720 about as a society that

01:08:12.980 we really should be

01:08:13.700 um I feel like getting

01:08:16.180 people to come together

01:08:18.380 and have conversations is

01:08:19.640 really important even if

01:08:20.680 people still disagree I

01:08:21.900 think it keeps both sides

01:08:22.920 rooted a little bit more

01:08:23.920 firmly in reality when

01:08:25.100 they're talking to each

01:08:25.780 other when they stop

01:08:26.680 talking to each other

01:08:27.380 both sides run off into

01:08:28.800 extremely crazy territory

01:08:30.580 okay

01:08:32.880 next

01:08:33.760 you ready Anton

01:08:35.080 okay uh so uh

01:08:37.740 JS Powell asks what are

01:08:38.940 your views on net zero

01:08:40.160 um

01:08:41.980 are you talking net zero

01:08:42.840 emissions

01:08:43.180 yeah

01:08:44.060 yeah I think that's an

01:08:45.160 awesome thing to do I

01:08:46.480 don't know if it's going

01:08:47.140 to happen in like five to

01:08:48.180 ten years or or 2050 or

01:08:50.220 whatever people are

01:08:50.660 pointing towards um I

01:08:51.980 mean that that should

01:08:52.560 definitely be like the

01:08:53.420 direction that we're aimed

01:08:54.280 in but we have to balance

01:08:55.280 out our desire for

01:08:56.660 net zero emissions with

01:08:58.700 uh whatever realistic

01:09:00.000 energy policies we can

01:09:01.120 have to make sure people

01:09:01.700 aren't like dying in the

01:09:02.560 streets of like coldness 0.99

01:09:03.400 and shit right um it's 0.91

01:09:05.280 that's going to be like um 0.98

01:09:06.480 I think net zero is as

01:09:07.580 much an economic question

01:09:08.800 as it is uh you know like

01:09:10.520 a social policy or

01:09:11.580 whatever yeah well it's

01:09:12.920 kind of not how it's

01:09:13.720 being pursued certainly

01:09:14.560 not in this country at

01:09:15.480 the moment where in

01:09:16.780 winter thousands of

01:09:18.320 pensioners die because 1.00

01:09:19.420 they can't afford to

01:09:20.180 heat the house because

01:09:21.340 we've jacked up the price

01:09:22.440 of energy via various 1.00

01:09:23.900 stupid energy related 1.00

01:09:25.060 policies but it sounds 1.00

01:09:25.940 like you're not in

01:09:26.480 favor of that so

01:09:27.160 you're you're not in

01:09:28.260 favor of pensioners 0.60

01:09:29.080 freezing good stuff

01:09:30.340 all right depends on

01:09:31.660 the types of no I'm

01:09:32.340 just kidding here but

01:09:33.040 uh box head uh he

01:09:35.960 says I thought his

01:09:37.200 uh investigation is it

01:09:38.980 of careful's was

01:09:40.400 excellent so kudos for

01:09:41.900 that service so tell us

01:09:42.960 a little bit of what

01:09:43.580 that was about destiny

01:09:44.780 um basically just a

01:09:46.360 person that I had huge

01:09:47.140 disagreements with that

01:09:47.880 was telling a lot of

01:09:48.660 lies about me on the

01:09:49.200 internet and I did a

01:09:50.080 huge investigation of

01:09:51.120 this person to prove

01:09:51.820 that they were indeed the

01:09:52.900 liar go figure okay

01:09:55.500 perfect thanks box

01:09:57.000 head appreciate the

01:09:57.640 fiver next what else

01:09:58.740 we got one more

01:09:59.600 chaotic neutral with a

01:10:01.880 five says how much do

01:10:02.840 you think you affected

01:10:04.400 sneeko feels like he

01:10:06.180 became a bit less

01:10:07.060 unhinged after talking

01:10:08.080 to you um hopefully a

01:10:10.260 bit but I mean

01:10:11.280 obviously now he's in

01:10:12.240 like way more radical

01:10:12.980 circles so I don't know

01:10:14.100 how much effect at all I

01:10:15.000 have on him at this

01:10:15.640 point okay all right

01:10:20.120 man is there anything

01:10:20.880 else you didn't say or

01:10:22.480 want to add before we

01:10:23.700 wrap up um no I think

01:10:27.340 that's it cool where

01:10:28.560 can people find you

01:10:29.280 online at youtube.com

01:10:31.320 slash destiny or

01:10:32.160 instagram.com slash

01:10:33.180 destiny destiny thanks

01:10:34.860 for joining us and thank

01:10:36.040 you guys for watching and

01:10:36.980 listening we'll be back

01:10:37.980 uh tomorrow with our

01:10:39.060 usual raw shows and of

01:10:40.280 course on sunday with

01:10:41.600 another brilliant episode

01:10:42.620 like this one this week's

01:10:43.760 episode is with ariel pink

01:10:46.100 who I imagine destiny

01:10:47.400 probably wouldn't like

01:10:48.280 very much because he

01:10:49.080 attended a peaceful

01:10:50.520 protest on january 6th he

01:10:52.000 didn't go to the violent

01:10:53.520 rally or anything like

01:10:54.440 that I got himself

01:10:55.560 cancelled anyway so we

01:10:56.540 did a long talk in which

01:10:57.840 I challenge him just

01:10:58.840 about as much as I

01:10:59.620 challenge destiny

01:11:00.320 including about quite a

01:11:01.720 lot of the conspiracy

01:11:02.360 theories that he has

01:11:03.940 about lots of things to

01:11:05.300 do with politics so join

01:11:06.300 us on sunday but of

01:11:07.360 course we've got a full

01:11:08.140 program of raw shows for

01:11:09.200 you this week Thursday

01:11:10.220 Friday and Saturday we'll

01:11:11.900 see you tomorrow and for

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TRIGGERnometry - December 08, 2022

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