Meeting Joe Rogan, Bill Burr, Sam Harris, Matt Walsh + more!
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Summary
Francis and Conner review their trip to America, including interviews with Joe Rogan, Bill Burr, Adam Carolla, Sam Harris and more. They talk about the differences between being diplomatic and blunt, and how the bluntness of the interview changed the tone of the conversation.
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I told you I had this out-of-body experience last night.
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I was looking at some of the videos that we've got on the channel,
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and I was not associating with myself in that moment.
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I was just looking at it through the eyes of, like, a neutral person.
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interviewing Sam Harris, Bill Burr, he's doing Joe Rogan,
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and he was only, like, ten minutes later that I realized that guy was me.
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Hello and welcome to Trigonometry Destroys America.
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And this is a show for you if you want honest conversations with fascinating people.
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We don't have either of those for you today because today it's just us reviewing the trip.
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Bilbo walked out of the door behind you two hours ago.
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Did he say that just I wasn't there for that part?
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Because working our way back, today it was Bill Burr,
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Before that, we were in Nashville where we interviewed Matt Walsh.
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Before that, we were in Austin, Texas where, I mean, we went on Joe Rogan's show.
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Joe literally just said most British comedians suck
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and you guffawed and then said, yeah, I agree with you,
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where we're going to be surrounded by the very people
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Yeah, but we've blamed your people since time immemorial, mate.
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Yeah, I know blaming the Jews is the customary way of doing it.
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your people have been excelling at that for generations who am i to stop this wonderful
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tradition unbelievable anyway so big joey we we went on joe's show uh that was absolutely
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mind-blowing and the one thing i take away most of all from this trip actually is
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i learned this from our experience on being on joe's show and i said it to him and it because
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it was true afterwards like i always thought of going in and spending four hours or however long
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it would be with joe as an opportunity i did not realize how much fun it would be yeah it was
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incredible fun it was but and by the end of it what was insane for me is like here we are and i
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and i was just in this mode that you and i would be if we're sitting in a restaurant or at the
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studio or whatever um where it's like we talk about sport and boxing and we're just shooting
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the shit about the ufc and i was like oh yeah i've got this point to send and then i and then
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This is the guy that's interviewed like every UFC champion ever
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to the entire interview and to the entire experience?
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We were talking about very serious issues like the grooming gang.
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And we were talking about political correctness, free speech.
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And then we did a good, solid chunk of that, classic trig.
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But we've never talked about like spirituality on the show in that way.
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I tell you what, you talked about it when we did the podcast with Bridget Phetasy,
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how for you there was a moment where it was, oh shit, this is Joe Rogan.
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because you've been preparing for it for so long
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and then the next day you just prepare for the fallout.
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And I think probably all his guests get that to a certain degree.
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Not all his guests come on there and shit on their former industry
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And then, do you remember when we went to the comedy night afterwards?
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That was completely mind-blowing because he was just so uncensored.
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And not a lot, but some of the jokes were too fine for me.
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But I was like, at least someone's able to make them.
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doesn't mean I want people not to be able to make them.
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And in the UK, that would literally never happen.
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with a lot of the other things that we were doing.
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And I don't want to talk about it publicly, but he's a legitimate guy.
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Again, I can't say how, but he's someone who really likes helping other people.
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I think we forget how different the British comedy scene and culture is in this respect.
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in every fucking orifice of every conversation.
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because I genuinely think it's not something that we don't go anywhere near as much to addressing
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it as we should we just don't I think it's true you know and oh this is what I love about America
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our society and I love Britain I've been having people saying again I do love it it's my home
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but everything is stratified everybody knows their strata where they are etc you come to America
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It's like somebody just got the cards and thrown them up in the air.
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I know what you mean, but so much of that is just in your head, man.
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But that has been the wonderful thing about America,
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When you come here, you can feel yourself tap into it.
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where is this person coming from in society yeah people just they they you know they want to do
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well and they want other people to do well now look in every country there's going to be good
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people and bad people and stupid people and clever people and all sorts of it uh and i know that in
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so in the u.s there is a lot of sort of like bitching and fighting against you know among
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comedians of different scenes etc but it does feel like a completely different experience and
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one of the things for us is we've really expanded our friendship circle while we've been here like
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most of the people we've met you know we haven't even talked about the time we spent in virginia
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before austin where we stayed with seb gorker who's a big fan of the show and a friend of ours
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and it took us to shoot some guns shoot some guns experience some freedom all this stuff was like
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enough logs that our supporters see and and that's another thing that's been incredible like i i told
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you i had this out of body experience last night now admittedly we had had a bit more of the weed
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yeah but the reason i bring it up is like i was looking at my phone and checking our stats which
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i don't usually do you know we don't look at that really ever no we don't definitely don't look at
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every night no or every morning yeah we definitely don't do that but i was looking at our stats and
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i was looking at uh some of the videos that we've got on the channel which is these vlogs
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and i and i was not associating with myself in that moment i was just looking at it through the
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eyes of like a neutral person yeah and i saw a guy who is in america yeah interviewing sam harris
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bill burr is doing joe rogan and he was only like 10 minutes later that i realized that guy was me
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yeah and we're like traveling around documenting the trip checking interesting things out making
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friends and i was like fuck that's incredible yeah yeah the fact that we are able to do this
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the fact that we've got so many people who are watching us listening to us willinging us on
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giving us money joining locals doing all of these different things even or even just listening or
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watching it's still amazing that people are willing to give their time to listen to two
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idiot comedians that to me blows me or and i guess it blows me away every single time
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and what i want the more we grow is to have more experiences like this i want to take on our
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audiences on our audience on even more of a journey because i think the magic of this trip
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was and people messaged me they were like i've been watching you since 2019 or 2018 and seeing
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you go on rogue and makes me so proud you know like it's like a band like you see him in the
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back of a pub yeah and then you watch and grow and do bigger stuff and whatever else yeah and
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i just really looking forward to when we do even more incredible things just bring everyone on a
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journey with us yeah man the vlogs i think are going to be potentially a very interesting part
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of the future of the show yeah because people want to see like how it actually happens you know
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um and i that that's fascinating to me looking into that so we'll see what we can do but uh
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elliot who's our in uh intern uh you know will be getting a nice bonus yeah because of the work
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he's done on making those vlogs 50 quid coming each way i was gonna say 20 but you know what i
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mean um yeah so that's been absolutely mind-blowing and the number of people who like us here who
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watch us here we had someone come up to us in la who works for like a massive movie star we had
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bit you know like a cat when it's going into a new place it's a little bit like yes and it's just
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like what's going on they sit down and they're like they have a bit of a chat they go it's all
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right and then they get into it yeah and they're still but a lot of the time either you or i
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manages to find that way in and then it goes yeah yeah yeah it was like that with bill today yeah
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uh it was like that with joe you did it with joe yeah there was a moment uh you were very wise to
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mention the weed yeah yeah exactly he whipped the blunt right out yeah exactly and gin and then you
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walk away like with one of our guests and i won't say who it is they came in with a fist bump and
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they're left with a handshake yeah you know yeah i love that you just manage to open something up
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in people and then people get to understand who they truly are yeah and why they think the way
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they think yeah yeah that was fascinating it's amazing yeah it's brilliant I love that today
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and every every other day that we've done and there's been some challenges like when we first
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arrived all our equipment didn't show up basically we had nothing so I had to run around New York
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so you know there were some challenges but it's been an absolute joy an absolute joy if this trip
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it's felt slightly magical yeah there's there seems to have that kind of magical quality about it yeah
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and it's just it's difficult to describe well i think we came to a place that we
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we haven't really been in in this way like it's different being here doing what we were doing
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yeah we're meeting people we're literally in the place where like the industry that we're in
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people who are literally at the pinnacle of that.
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Joe Rogan is the pinnacle of podcasting, right?
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is the pinnacle of the political and philosophy
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controversial and some people will disagree with him
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So on all those fronts, we've been literally talking to the people
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This trip has felt far longer than two and a half weeks.
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And it's because we're having such incredible experiences
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Yeah. There was a point in the Rogan interview where I lost track of all time.
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That would be the weed, mate. Yeah, that will be the weed.
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But it's also, you know, I've had it so often since we've been here, like days last forever.
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Because we're experiencing so much. We're meeting so many incredible people.
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We're growing as a result. But we're going to come back, all three of us, different than when we went.
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Yeah, there's no question about it. I think we're already different.
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From one of the ways I'm different, you know, I am really, really keen that trigonometry becomes a vehicle now in the UK for people who are doing good things to get a bigger audience.
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I think in the past I was so focused on growing what we are growing that it didn't occur to me that we are actually now in a position to help other people.
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You know, and if someone is doing good work, why can't we do what Joe does here?
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which is you know there are people who have I don't know 30,000 subscribers on YouTube and
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in the past we were so focused on growing our audience that we wanted to talk to them but it
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was it was difficult to reconcile with with the fact that we want more people to watch the show
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right so you have to get people with a bigger audience and we always tried like we always gave
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people an opportunity you know when when we felt that it was really worth it you know and obviously
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like when we're talking about serious issues you get someone on no matter how big an audience to
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have like dr ella hill is a good example like that is the interview i am most proud of that we have
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done and i include this trip yeah right and that interview was never going to get more than like
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a hundred thousand views or whatever it's on but for the most part you have to focus on getting
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people who are big names yeah you know and part of the conversation at that level and
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now I feel you know we have a responsibility to take on Joe's attitude which is building a
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community of people that's what I learned from him and support people who are coming up you know
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and there's so many people that in the UK are doing good stuff and we don't even know a lot
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of them yet because again we've been so focused on what we've been doing but there are lots of
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people comedians and other people who who are trying to make stuff yeah why not bring them
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along why not why not give them an opportunity and i think that's really important because like you
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said that was the inspiring thing about joe that he's he gets on people who have nowhere near
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the size of an audience yeah that wouldn't that you know you would want to bring on to
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so that people would hear about the podcast that people would understand it but he believes that
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they have something of value to add and that he can help them along the way yeah and look he's
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been burned we've been burned yeah but it's really important that you bring people in you give them
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a chance so that they can then go on and create amazing things yeah well and look uh you know
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whatever people think about the two people i'm going to mention the fact is they're important
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figures in the culture in the cultural space we were the first people as far as i know to do a
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long-form interview with zuby yep and we were the first people as far as i know to do a long-form
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into Lawrence Fox yeah right um I mean I'm not saying we made them we did but yeah I'm not saying
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that you should be grateful no I'm obviously not saying it but you know what I mean there are lots
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of people out there who've got you know opinions that they're strongly held and they're people of
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charisma and character and whatever you know and we may agree with everything that person does down
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the line or not but you know i think it's really important for us to to encourage people who want
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to speak their mind yeah whatever position they're coming from actually you know like a lot of
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comedians had a go at us for what we said on rogan but i if there are people who have something
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interesting to say and who are building something cool and exciting that don't agree with us i'd
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love to have them on let's talk yeah you know i don't uh i'm not like i'm not this this experience
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a dick to us but maybe they're going through their own stuff
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and people are going to try and cancel them for innocuous
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you know we just quote tweet it in with the words ha ha exactly no but we actually bitch yeah how
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does that taste no it's actually really important that we actually reach out and go hey hey brother
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you okay yeah just here if you need just let me know yeah because it's important for people to
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understand that we put we platform when we try to platform everybody with regards to the exceptions
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at either end but everybody else you've got a chance of coming on here if you've got something
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valuable to say yeah but also you know if you're going through your own stuff if you know if you
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if you're in danger if you've you know you've got people who are coming for you and trying to take
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away your career and everything that you can come to us and we will give you a fair hearing
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and you'll be able to pursue and put across your experiences yeah and that's really important yeah
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i agree so this experience has just been it's been the deep programming from a lot of kind of
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cultural indoctrination that we have in the uk that i've needed um as for you know a lot of people
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were asking like are we moving to texas or whatever like uh i don't think we will be right
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away but i definitely think we'll be spending more time in america than we have been well we
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haven't been spending any time in america so this but like we'll be back and probably quite soon
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and probably for a period of time yeah but we'll see we'll see how that goes we'll see how that
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goes but i also feel you know like i i mean you can't pretend that when joe rogan says to you
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live in front of millions of people and also then like in private you should come i really want you
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to come and be part of the community here like you can't deny that that's flattering and very
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appealing particularly because austin is fucking incredible yeah and it's also as well you've got
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you need to try it yeah you need to try but what i where i was going was also i do feel that you
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know we are a british show yeah and the people who watched us from the beginning and the people
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who supported us from the beginning and the people who who were really invested in our show yeah a
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lot of them are from britain and the issues we talk about are important to them in their lives
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and to just like abandon them and just jump on the bandwagon of the united states i don't think
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that would be the right move for us now that's not to say that we may not eventually just
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for whatever reason feel like this is the place that we've got to be for you know for longer or
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permanently but at the moment i feel like you know there's such important battles being fought
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and actually there are some wins going on you know gender ideology in the time that we've been away
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tavistock has been shut down we had a whistleblower from tavistock come and talk about it
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yeah to hundreds of thousands of people yeah government ministers i bet you who who made that
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decision and who who were part of the process of that whole thing they would have watched that
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interview yeah you know that that's just one example and there's been others too and that's
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the thing about the uk is it's still our home we still consider ourselves british and there's so
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many problems here at the moment there's so many things that we need to talk about there's so many
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things that aren't being talked about in nearly as honest a way as they should be and we really
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need to go back and talk to these people and expose what is happening in all these different
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you know in all these different facets of society it needs to be done because we were the ones doing
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it now there were other people who've come along but I like to think that we do it best
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and that we need to be back yeah i agree and also uh you know our raw shows they're not
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everybody's cup of tea for sure yeah because some people are frigid yeah exactly minges
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and not in a good way too far but anyway uh what i was going to say is uh we met one of our top
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supporters yeah here in new york nathan woodard and one of the things he said to us i never really
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thought about it like that because it's a kind of you know if you think that about yourself it's an
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arrogant way of looking at it but on raw we combine offensive but funny comedy with
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what i'd like to think is a fair-minded political analysis yeah that will take the piss out of the
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people on the left and the right when they go wrong now look we have our views of things and
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at the moment the far left concerns us more yeah because it's more numerous and it's captured
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institutions and so on whatever but we are combining a fair-minded political commentary
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with humor and what nathan said to us he said you're not the best at what you do you're the
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only people who do that and i'm not i'm certainly not aware of any comparable show and i don't think
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you could do a comparable show on tv even on even on somewhere you know like gb news where the guys
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do a good job you know but it's still constrained by the parameters of television uh boys what we
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do is raw exactly and raw works because we're british because we take a british attitude
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and a british way of looking at the world a british lens and just cast it across the globe
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and the people who watch us tend to be you know people from all over the world but they tend to
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be two things they tend to be anglophiles number one and number two they're lovers of british
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comedy so they watch this and they get this sort of wry look at the world very cynical
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and that's british and i love american humor and i love american are you gonna shit on american
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stand-ups no you're gonna do both in one trip no no i love british humor and the american comics
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all suck yeah they all suck no but that way of looking at the world of going this is shit isn't
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it that's british yeah yeah that's what we do best yeah that's what we and that's what that's
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what raw is yeah he's looking at all these different complex complex difficult you know
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subjects and events and just going it's a bit shit in it yeah and combined with you know
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we push every boundary yeah you know comedically yeah it's fun yeah it's a lot of fun man so i
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I look forward to getting back and getting the Raw started back up.
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And, of course, I mean, we've recorded, like, incredible interviews
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I'm so excited for people to see these interviews.
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that's going to piss off a hell of a lot of people,
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but also there's a bit in it when he talks about
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how to live a happy life that's just brilliant.
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Adam Carolla talking about how California has become
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like a super progressive and therefore very restricted place
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and being really funny and talking about the working class situation
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Matt Walsh was very good and I challenged him pretty hard
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So people will, I think, feel like he got asked the right questions,
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I think there's something we probably left out that Posey might,
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The stuff that we are putting out as a result of this trip is going to be high quality.
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it's going to be so exciting for us to see people because like you said like it's been such a leap
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for us to be interviewing these people um who we who we've always wanted to talk with you know
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because and also for me you know there's a there's like uh an intellectual challenge yeah part of it
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which is like can i dance the dance with sam harris yeah and i actually thought we did exactly
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that we did you know we we held them we we were with him and whenever he said things that we
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thought you know he his logic was faulty like we knew what to say you know what i mean there's
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always that part of it too like you're you're you're talking to some smart people now yeah
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sam harris was one of those people he had rich billionaire vibes when he came in yeah and he
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just sat down by the way what a nice dude what a lovely lovely lovely man we had some tech issues
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it was great it was incredible and he wanted to keep going i wanted to keep going yeah we all did
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but we had you know we had things with places that we needed to be dinner dinner exactly but
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what what a pleasure what a pleasure to sit with a mind as brilliant as sam's and just hear him talk
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yeah absolutely that was incredible and you know bill was fascinating as well because he's on an
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interesting journey as a person yeah you know he talked a lot about basically you know becoming a
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better person and how that's affecting him and how other people perceive him as different and all
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that yeah and you know how to become not only a better person for yourself but arguably more
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importantly better person for your children absolutely and of course he was hilarious
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yeah absolutely hilarious yeah you know and there were a few little digs at both of us in there
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yeah yeah yeah there was even when you watch it a little bit of a dare i say shit impersonation
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to me bill was that yeah oh right back to the camera yeah yeah yeah i think it was a shit
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impersonation of all british people to be honest exactly a collective impersonation of all of us
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yeah uh but that was fantastic and uh and by the way there's people who we didn't interview but
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like bridget fetus yeah what what a quality human being she is absolutely brilliant gnome from the
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from the comedy cellar gnome who runs the comedy cellar chris williamson who you know showed us
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around austin i love his channel modern wisdom people should check it out he's just been on
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rogan literally yesterday yeah as we recorded it so he's crushing it and he really looked after us
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yeah i mean seb gorker was just like amazing yeah um you know everybody that we got to hang out with
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it was just a minch yeah as your people would say yeah but uh we went to like the comedy cellar we
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saw kevin hart live live i mean there were some bits that weren't great the one bit that was funny
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Look, the whole thing was just touched by magic.
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And, you know, we couldn't have done it without our, like,
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like i said man when i looked at my phone yesterday i was just like i can't believe this is my life
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yeah you know and um that's why we talked to joe about gratitude it's like um you know the feeling
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of gratitude that you and i and anton feel and and this is the thing i think people probably
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watch the show and think like we're packing millions away in our bank accounts like we
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haven't got any money at all no right ignore the surroundings we really don't no we don't we don't
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we make enough money to pay ourselves a reasonable modest salary and to pay our staff that's what
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that's all the money that we have it's not like we we've built a compound like tim pool or joe
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rogan or whatever but just being here yeah and doing this it's like bill bursa just like none
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of us has a real job no and our job is this yeah this is what we do and that's why we're so happy
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It's not like we came to LA and bought a fucking mansion.
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this works because of them yeah and that's why when i go back a lot of my excitement is going to
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be from just going they're going to lose their minds when they see the bill burr interview
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or they're going to get so fucking pissed off with sam harris it's exciting yeah man it's so
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exciting that we're going to give them these amazing interviews but i'm going to be honest
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with you like i don't know what other podcast does that it's just gonna be great and just to
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get the feedback and people going me fucking or people just going yeah that was brilliant i think
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already had that part yeah exactly i mean sam harris is going to get that yeah yes he is yes he
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is but you know one of the other things i learned from joe as well is how dispassionately he is he
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dispassionate he is about disagreeing with people yeah when joe rogan says i don't think that's true
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you don't feel attacked no you don't right like for example you said right at the end of the
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conversation that people who say that boring fighting is is boring you know certain styles
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of fighting are boring and they're not real fans anyone that's not true yeah and he gave you an
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example but you didn't feel like you were attacked or humiliated even though you should have been
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yeah right for not knowing your shit exactly destroyed with facts and logic yeah you know
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what i mean yeah of course and that's one of the other things that i really hope that we can
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cultivate with our show is like i think when we were starting out a lot of people felt that
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they attached and projected their own political views and ambitious on ambitions onto us they
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thought that we have a particular ideology that we follow yeah and we we are the vehicle by which
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that ideology will win right but that's not really true we want to talk to different people and so
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one of the things that means is we've got to be able to talk to someone like sam with whom i
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disagree very profoundly on some of the things that he said in that interview you know yeah and
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we've got to be able to talk to him and talk to him in a respectful way of course in the way that
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he feels heard in the way that he feels um that he was worth his time coming here that's really
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important that that's the only way we progress if it's just talking points uh you know i've got
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this one you've got that one i don't think we're going to get anywhere you know and if we're going
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to use the internet we've talked so much on our show about the damage the damage the utter damage
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to our society that social media is doing big tech companies are doing you know then we have
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to offer something that is the antidote to that at least here at least in the hour or two hours
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that we spend with somebody we've got to create a space where different conversations can be had
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and different people with different voices can be heard i've always said my dream week at
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trigonometry would be to release nigel farage on a wednesday trump on a sunday no farage on a
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wednesday corbyn on a sunday jeremy corbyn yeah that's what i want us to be i want us to be and
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we are but continue to be and grow as being the center yeah where we interview everybody yeah
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and you come here and you know what you're going to get is a fair hearing and you're going to get
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a chance for you to say what you think and why you think it and you'll be asked the questions that
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normal people normal people will want to hear an answer to you not some journalist bullshit yeah
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you know some people would say this and no yeah what what a normal person me or you like we're
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we're normal this is the thing that makes the show work yeah we're just normal people yeah who have
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normal questions we try to think about things in a common sense way we're not we're not you know
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political philosophers or whatever yeah we're just trying to ask the questions that most people
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would like to know and sometimes those questions are more intellectual because you know that there
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are people out there who want the the mind nourishment of an intellectual conversation
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and sometimes it's more practical it's about you know day-to-day politics and sometimes it's
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entertaining or sometimes it's about a really you know i think high stakes issue yeah like
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the grooming gangs or like the trans conversation right now where children are being mutilated yeah
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all the feminists are going to get pissed off now
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because they've been talking about it for years
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we challenged her as best we could to try and save our careers yeah we couldn't and we were
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like well she's telling you know what she's saying makes sense to me i'm not going to pretend it's not
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true yeah and we carried on and we continue to explore that issue and continue to highlight
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that issue because you and i genuinely care about those children who are in finding themselves in
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that position and that's why it's so important that we go back yeah and it's why it's so important
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that we we will come to america we will spend time in america but at its heart it will always
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be a british show hosted by two british guys it just we because who are you getting to replace
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me mate exactly but we we can't pretend to be anything else the show works because we're honest
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yeah it's true rogan our appearance on rogan went for four and a bit hours because if you were
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pretending to be someone else no one's that good an actor that you can improvise for four and a
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bit hours yeah the mask is gonna slip i don't care how talented how smart you just can't yeah and
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that's what you get with us this is who we are so for me this has been a joy i love america
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but we've always got to continue to look at the world through a british lens
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I thought you were going to go for the Jesus thing