TRIGGERnometry - Meghan Markle, Brigitte Macron, Piers Morgan and Feminism

00:00:00.000 like he used to be like kids with purple hair and that looked like weirdos were like the cool kids

00:00:06.440 and now they're the fucking dorks and they're angry about stuff what makes women happy well

00:00:11.660 what makes me happy is unfortunately more fortunately the traditional things i always

00:00:18.360 considered myself a 90s liberal and then now that's considered conservative right i don't

00:00:24.280 know what happened i have so many questions like what like what well let's can we talk about the

00:00:29.300 muslims and bretons i forgot you guys have a class system that blows me away francis are you dating

00:00:36.180 i am dating okay so tell me dumping clips this is like candace getting pinched by macron's wife you

00:00:45.560 think she's a you think she's a dude no i love pierce morgan by the way i love watching him

00:00:52.120 on merkel that's my absolute favorite i feel a lawsuit coming on they can't get me overseas

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00:02:10.560 christina p welcome to trigonometry i'm so happy to be here i love you guys so much we love you we

00:02:16.220 were we've basically done all the talking while we were waiting to start but one of the things we

00:02:20.960 bonded over is our mutual love of communism yes what a perfect system and i'm so happy that america is

00:02:27.460 starting to adapt some of the principles because it worked so well the first time around and you

00:02:34.680 and i our parents are well you're from the old country my parents escaped it in 1969 and so i have

00:02:40.940 a real visceral reaction when i hear people being censored or from poland no hungary hungary even

00:02:48.320 like just a tiny nothing country like we had an empire at one time but uh our friend seb gork is

00:02:55.860 getting angry listening to this now he's hungarian oh yeah he works in the white house but he's

00:03:01.080 hungarian descent yeah anyway sorry no no i like being hungary don't be sorry but but uh yeah my

00:03:08.260 asshole really puckers when i when i hear that people are not bothered by being um censored

00:03:15.520 i don't know i can't imagine my father predicted this which is really interesting do you remember

00:03:20.980 michael richards i don't know if you heard about the story he was on seinfeld he played kramer the

00:03:24.800 wacky neighbor yeah on seinfeld and uh back in like oh five he went to the laugh factory and he was

00:03:30.940 bombing on his set and he kept he kept he kept saying the n-word over and over he was like these

00:03:37.360 ends these ends these ends and of course it didn't do well because there was no joke it was just him

00:03:42.300 lashing out but somebody had recorded him and put it on the internet and now he was being crucified for

00:03:49.580 it it was like the first canceling and i went to my dad's house and i go hey did you hear about this

00:03:55.820 thing that this guy is saying the n-word and he goes well so what there is n-words in the world it's not

00:04:02.240 a big deal i was like well i don't know i can't agree with that but i do think there it's like

00:04:09.320 he goes this is how it starts this is what he told me he goes this is the beginning and i go what

00:04:14.280 do you mean he goes this is how it was before the communists came the slow drip and that was 05

00:04:19.700 and exactly society got real tight around like covid right like people were losing gigs

00:04:26.300 shane gillis got kicked off right of snl for a tweet that he did

00:04:31.640 what the but i don't know what's going on in britain now are you guys like

00:04:37.540 are we feeling woke vibes still i mean what's going on in britain is uh there's things cooking

00:04:43.620 but we don't want to admit that they're cooking um i've seen you guys protesting a little something

00:04:48.320 yeah guys are like no thanks muslims there's a lot of no and like it's uh yeah well let's talk

00:04:57.300 about it because i'm so curious to hear your perspective i know europeans are a little

00:05:00.720 different than americans you guys do have a culture that is thousands and thousands of years old

00:05:05.480 and you guys have coexisted in a union european right for a while and you guys like to keep your

00:05:12.220 your own right religion language food kind of unless they're indian and then you guys

00:05:18.280 what were you guys saying before we started about indians and mexicans yeah so basically

00:05:24.660 indians are our versions of mexicans sure but we didn't colonize the mexicans you did take their

00:05:31.380 land we stole their shit but we but we didn't force english on them and we didn't force culture on

00:05:40.040 them right didn't you guys you guys did that at the end yeah yeah we did we did but and this is

00:05:45.260 going to get me into so much because i talked to indians about the british empire and i think they

00:05:50.000 would be like i hate it and they were like there's some pretty good stuff you gave us yeah well english

00:05:54.780 and culture that aspect of culture being one of them yeah and the trains trains are good trains are

00:06:00.880 good so actually you know is it all bad i don't know i can't answer that i'm not indian oh no i can't

00:06:07.640 my stepdad was from india he was born in bumbay and he hated it and he hated being poor and that's

00:06:15.200 why he came to america and became a capitalist so i don't know but it's so interesting isn't it because

00:06:20.680 like we're looking like i would have thought this would be the one country in the world that would

00:06:25.420 be immune to communism oh i just thought you know because i grew i grew up i saw america in the 80s

00:06:31.500 and the 90s you know god bless america you know capitalism's awesome we make great stuff we're

00:06:37.540 going to export it to the world everyone kind of hated you yet envied you at the same time particularly

00:06:42.220 and now you've got like zoran mandani probably going to get elected that's crazy dude

00:06:48.580 okay so what are we asking how did this happen well yeah yeah i just like to me it seemed like

00:06:56.860 you were capitalism capitalism capitalism oh communism i don't know if it's that cut and dry

00:07:03.440 i feel like we're simplifying things a little bit here i think there is a disillusionment with our

00:07:09.380 belief in government and them having our best interests at heart i wish i were an expert on wokeism

00:07:17.140 but i am not i do think it is some disillusionment with the authority and oh i actually i can speak

00:07:24.940 on a philosophical uh thing i was a philosophy major in the 90s i graduated in 99 with a bachelor's

00:07:32.060 in philosophy and i learned continental philosophy i learned everything up until post-modernism and my

00:07:38.420 professors said you can learn about this stuff but it's stupid and nobody buys into this because it's dumb

00:07:44.340 basically they didn't say like that but and um and that's when i started to read what is now uh the

00:07:51.800 ideology of this culture of wokeness of the breaking the bind the non-binary and um the gender stuff

00:08:01.520 and i think it's a misinterpretation of the original ideas i don't think people are really understanding

00:08:07.980 what they're spouting as their philosophy by the way should we even be talking about it is it kind

00:08:14.520 of not over here which one wokeness like is it not over i mean look i live in texas now yeah so i'm a

00:08:20.900 little more this is like joe rogan country here and i'm i'm really grateful to be more immune to it here

00:08:28.560 um being in california you go i go back to visit la and i feel the reverberations still of like the

00:08:37.540 covid time when people were really deep into it like really like they're still scared in so many

00:08:44.920 regards like there's still a trauma from covid are people in la still wear masks that's what

00:08:50.660 that with my head every time you land in lax there's people in masks yeah now yeah it's been five

00:08:57.020 years yeah and i love that because i'm like oh you're mentally ill like now i can identify but at

00:09:01.980 this point you kind of have to say that right yeah you're like if you see one person in a mask per

00:09:07.740 million you go maybe that guy's got a special health condition yes but when you see lots of

00:09:12.300 people you go no you guys are crazy yeah it's hysteria right and i think it exists it still exists

00:09:17.260 a little bit in la like i said texas were like out in this is this is no man's land it's kind of

00:09:23.280 great that way but i try not to pay attention to these idiots you know i do think a lot of it is

00:09:28.880 mental illness and i know that's very politically incorrect to say but like i'm on tiktok i love it

00:09:34.320 and that's where i get my news

00:09:36.740 because i as to me it's the truth of the people you know and um i watch tiktok and i watch like a lot

00:09:45.300 of these people that are like i'm astral gendered i'm this gendered and i'm like dude if it was like

00:09:50.800 one normal mother out there claiming to be like whatever gendered i'd be like okay cool like how

00:09:57.640 come i'm not friends with any of them honestly like i'm friends with everybody dude like i can't find

00:10:04.180 one to be friends with because they suck like they're not cool they're not fun it's because you

00:10:10.080 you know what it's really i'm just i'm serious they're no fun they're not cool like he used to

00:10:15.300 be like kids with purple hair and that looked like weirdos were like the cool kids and now they're the

00:10:19.800 dorks and they're angry about stuff you know yeah i befriended one her i can't say her name she

00:10:26.200 worked in an ice cream parlor she was cool them sorry they were cool that's it maybe because i'm just

00:10:32.420 old am i old yes i am but i mean is it just not my generation but i i don't i don't i know people

00:10:42.780 who to see the world that way they you're they do not seem fun yeah there's a kind of earnestness

00:10:50.640 about them they're fucking bummers dude bummers has a very different meaning

00:10:54.940 yeah that's a bummer gay yeah not not just gay but someone who actively engages in in the act

00:11:02.900 yeah who consummates the the you know yeah then that would be fun then those people are having

00:11:08.880 fun yeah they're having a load they're having great fun just be free just be free and have fun

00:11:13.760 but they're not having fun well you're speaking of fun uh a lot of your stand-up has been about

00:11:19.940 being a parent not parent sorry mother because there's a big difference there's a big difference

00:11:27.380 what's the difference do you think um women are intuitive uh we create life we nurture life

00:11:33.580 we are goddesses and you guys are awesome because you kill stuff and you keep us safe

00:11:39.900 uh put it this way last night i was sleeping and my six-year-old crawled into bed with me because he

00:11:48.060 had a nightmare and then our little kitten came and laid on my chest to sleep my husband has none

00:11:54.220 of those things and there's a reason i'm not saying he's bad or anything it's just that the

00:11:59.200 feminine this energy is a different thing man i mean you know that you have mothers right

00:12:04.220 they probably weren't very nice to you because you're comics i'm no longer a comic so my mother

00:12:09.640 was okay yeah she's a soviet mother yeah soviet mother yes mine too very hard very rough did she

00:12:16.960 teach you to be a survivor like mine too um my mother wasn't really that harsh with me oh so lucky

00:12:25.460 uh but then i say that i think by soviet standards oh so that's like yeah you know i'm trying to think

00:12:31.960 about it a little bit though i'm trying to no i don't think so no but but it's like i see this

00:12:49.160 weird thing like it wasn't as big a deal back then so if like if you knew people whose parents beat them

00:12:57.160 you're like it was kind of like well they're not being me but this kind of is part it's just it's

00:13:02.740 just what happened right yeah and also the language particularly in england was different they wouldn't

00:13:07.620 say beat they'd say i'd give you a clip around the ear yeah just a clip it sounds so nice doesn't it

00:13:13.900 it does just a little clip you know it wasn't a clip it was a full-grown man going boom around your

00:13:18.900 head but yeah but it was just like oh that's a clip but see that's the thing so then you go well

00:13:23.540 those are nice things about woke right so then i don't want to on like all the non-binaries because

00:13:28.180 on the other hand now boys can be feminine or girls can girls can always be masculine i shouldn't say

00:13:33.880 that but you know maybe if you are a boy who's on the gay highway and you know and you just can't

00:13:41.340 come out yet but you go like oh maybe i can wear a dress and that's okay or maybe i can identify as

00:13:46.280 something and then and then on my way over there but i think the problem is if you even criticize this

00:13:51.540 stuff you're called a nazi you know and that's the silliest part but what i miss most about society

00:13:57.460 is um eccentrics like carl lagerfeld i became very obsessed with him recently because he was so

00:14:05.060 inappropriate and he was this asexual homosexual and he didn't like jews and he didn't like muslims

00:14:12.660 and he was super talented though and he would give interviews and say that he hated fat women

00:14:18.200 especially fat models and i was i'm dying laughing hearing this because growing up

00:14:23.900 people just said wild and you were like yeah but that's him he grew up in germany in 1800 or whatever

00:14:31.260 and he's just an idiot it doesn't affect me but to not even have the license to say these things

00:14:37.840 i think is what bums me out and we're gonna lose out on artists we're gonna lose out on i mean music is

00:14:44.060 crap as you know i think i'm i don't know i'm just old too but uh art is suffering for it uh if you

00:14:51.560 look at and i and i'm not shading taylor swift i've i don't i'm she's not my demographic obviously

00:14:57.600 it's not for me she's hugely successful but there is something bizarre to her being buttered noodles

00:15:04.960 the and by buttered noodles it's like what radio used to be in america

00:15:09.240 uh so middle of the road right it's like buttered noodles is everybody can eat buttered noodles

00:15:16.180 it's not delicious but everybody will eat buttered noodles and taylor swift feels that way to me and

00:15:22.560 there's a certain safety in music now a safety in art a safety that has to be there because they're

00:15:30.480 creating in a bubble of the internet could you imagine i always think of the beatles

00:15:35.980 doing their 10 000 hours in germany right and some dump bar becoming the beatles and could you

00:15:43.220 imagine if they put that online and they read their comments as they were developing as artists

00:15:48.260 and it was like you guys fucking suck ringo what kind of name is ringo you know and and you're like

00:15:53.440 that would have discouraged these teenage boys from becoming who they were so there's something to

00:15:58.300 the surveillance of this woke culture that just kills the spirit kills the art kills the eccentrics

00:16:05.420 that's what i miss well that's the the curse and blessing of the internet i think because on the one

00:16:10.940 hand it allows people like us to do things and they get amplified and people watch them and like

00:16:18.780 we never would have connected with you know two million people who watch our show without the

00:16:24.680 internet but on the other hand because the technology is so powerful suddenly if a comedian says a rude

00:16:30.120 word on a podcast like there's two million people that saw them say that and that's a concern

00:16:35.920 do you like do you see what i mean yeah it makes me laugh so much because does anyone really give a

00:16:42.400 ask 10 people to define the word capitalism and you'll probably get 10 different answers it's a word

00:16:49.840 that gets thrown around constantly but how many people actually know what it means that's why i've

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00:18:25.240 suvw german engineered for all does anybody really fucking care there's five dorks in the basement

00:18:33.720 writing this stuff you know one sensitive nerd right i i do you know what i agree and i don't agree like take

00:18:41.900 mark maron he really cares about this stuff like i look at mark and he's on podcasts and he's furious yes

00:18:49.500 he's livid he's like you know they're fascist if and you can see him working himself up you're like mark you're a

00:18:55.540 millionaire you're 62 you've got a successful career you've had one of the biggest podcasts of all time

00:19:00.180 dude chill out but he's he's literally foaming at some point i know well look we're comedians we all

00:19:07.440 have our our soft points our rubbing points our triggers but i think what's and i will say this

00:19:14.180 because i'm aware there's a whole feud right now in comedy that i'm kind of not oh is there

00:19:18.960 no i'm serious yeah i don't i don't i don't do stand-up anymore so i don't pay much attention what

00:19:25.000 what's going on well let me break it down for you okay history in a nutshell it's the club comics

00:19:31.200 versus the liberal comics let's say okay so back in la there's two thrillers a few scenes in comedy

00:19:38.240 but back in the day it was east coast versus west coast right so in la you came up you were either a

00:19:43.360 club comic uh where you did wherever the they would take you you get on the road you go to toledo

00:19:49.980 you do any bag place in toledo you'll do cleveland i don't know why i pick ohio is my reference but

00:19:56.540 uh you know you'll go anywhere and do anything entertain anyone and then there's the group of the

00:20:01.780 the liberal guys like the marins the patten oswalds the david crosses who preferred to do

00:20:07.900 like were considered alternative venues right like smaller theaters um and they cater to a specific

00:20:13.740 audience people that were like-minded individuals and they seldom would do the road it was considered

00:20:18.960 i don't know like we're like the circus people like we're just donkeys which kind of yes i agree

00:20:25.040 yeah i'll entertain anybody how much is it 1200 bucks i'll go there that's how i was i just wanted

00:20:29.620 to make a living anyway i just wanted to be an artist um so so but here's the catch here's the rub

00:20:37.040 is that those liberal comics were also in the hollywood system so here's the they were so lucky and i was

00:20:43.280 so jealous of them back in 08 because like here i am trying to get work on the road and be a donkey

00:20:48.900 here whereas they're getting cast in pilots and comedy central just loves these like weirdo you

00:20:55.760 know alternative good and meanwhile like it's just not for me okay but i think all those guys are funny

00:21:02.660 and you know everybody has their own way uh so what happened was podcasting was invented

00:21:07.980 and that took off and now those guys that are employed by hollywood are no longer employed by

00:21:13.820 hollywood because hollywood has shifted so tremendously to the podcasting and the independence

00:21:18.500 world of the internet and i think like we don't know how to i don't know if they're maybe they're

00:21:24.180 pissed is that what's going on that the economy of it all has switched um i don't know dude well

00:21:31.520 that makes a lot of sense to me right because um the people who used to get the opportunities

00:21:38.480 and be on top no longer getting opportunities and not being on top as that's not a recipe for

00:21:45.380 happiness for comedians right no um and what's interesting as well is the other thing that's

00:21:50.340 happened and you know mark i've seen some of his stuff criticizing people is you know what's happened

00:21:57.620 is a lot of the comedians who hosted a podcast sort of are now seen it by some people maybe not by

00:22:03.740 themselves but by a lot of other people as like the source of news yeah which is not how it was

00:22:10.440 supposed to be that's that's what i'm saying like people say to us and you know we try to you know

00:22:17.140 also do journalism to some extent as much as we can but people say to us oh i get all my news from

00:22:23.800 chicken omicham like you shouldn't you shouldn't and we do have serious conversations on the show but

00:22:29.320 like you need more than that right yeah so if you look at joe rogan and you think like this guy is

00:22:35.540 the equivalent of the new york times you're gonna end up very unhappy because that's not what it's

00:22:41.080 for do you know what i mean yeah the new york times is a that's a totally different viewpoint and

00:22:47.260 everyone has their own and but the problem comes too when these i think too there's a disillusionment

00:22:53.480 with our press because then you start to learn what's going on there and they're like wait a

00:22:57.680 minute why is this story being written about so and so right now oh oh this is all connected like

00:23:04.560 there's disinformation being actively spread in in the public sphere of news so then you're like well

00:23:12.920 who the heck can you trust well i do know there's a guy that spends a lot of time reading this from

00:23:17.680 the internet and his name is joe rogan and i don't have the time to do it but god bless joe rogan

00:23:22.100 because he does i'd rather listen to joe rogan then i don't know cnn or anderson or whoever fox

00:23:31.680 because maybe he knows what's up he's impartial there's no skin in his game for it right yeah i

00:23:38.600 think the issue comes and this isn't joe by the way because joe doesn't play this game but a game

00:23:42.780 that i've really grinds my gears is people who talk about serious subjects and have an opinion and

00:23:48.960 that's fair enough and then when they get challenged or they get caught in a trap and

00:23:54.580 their logic is exposed they go hey i'm just a comedian oh and you're just like dude you can't

00:24:01.160 do that oh you can't that's what i've been doing

00:24:04.000 but i never professed to be a genius and i just you know like i'm just talking out of my asshole

00:24:13.320 but i think that's what we all do like look at these opinions i don't know who the fuck is right

00:24:18.120 i don't know no but what you do is different because you're just i'm a comedian riffing about

00:24:22.760 stuff and the purpose of it is to be funny and then to be maybe to make a point but if you go into

00:24:28.720 to a debate and you're like i'm gonna talk about the middle east and why israel is committing a

00:24:32.940 genocide oh and then you get caught spreading misinformation or a conspiracy theory like a

00:24:39.000 comedian called basem yusuf did and then on piers morgan's show he went haha i'm just a clown

00:24:44.220 i'm like no do you know what i mean i love piers morgan by the way you do i do i think why do you

00:24:50.340 love piers morgan no i do i love it i know you guys have a different relationship to him because

00:24:54.740 he's one of yours and you see more of it maybe no no no i'm not having a we've had piers on the

00:24:58.800 show loads of times oh i love him well tell him i said i want to know him okay i'll tell him

00:25:02.840 okay why do you love piers morgan he's gonna watch this on repeat for the rest of his life

00:25:08.260 yeah this is every day yeah yeah well because i like i said i follow you know your guys's stuff

00:25:14.900 and i like that he was very outspoken against wokeness very early and he got fired for it yeah

00:25:21.000 like he had the show he got fired for criticizing megan markle yeah he did that's my favorite let's

00:25:27.100 talk about that i i just i love watching him on markle that's my absolute favorite why oh gosh

00:25:35.740 i mean how much time do we have a lot yeah yeah i've never seen you lie up like this

00:25:41.820 so i want to hear this and so does piers morgan okay okay he watches our show he's watching this

00:25:48.520 okay good so piers here's why i love you buddy i think you're one of the first people to expose

00:25:54.560 miss markle for being a social climber for being very ambitious let's say i mean look i've read all

00:26:02.000 the books you've done all the research because first of all you're not allowed to say at the end

00:26:08.120 of this i'm just a comment this is your opinion this is do i know about israel and palestine i don't

00:26:13.760 know a thing i don't care okay i'm a mom what i want to know is gossip about the royal family

00:26:18.160 correct that's right give us your educated opinion okay i've done deep deep dives okay

00:26:22.780 so i've read all the books i've done other things i think the way he characterized her because she

00:26:28.260 came to london to be set up and she wanted to be set up with a footballer i forget that guy's name

00:26:34.900 and somehow she weasels her way into getting set up with h with h and then but pierce morgan says

00:26:44.000 that oh yeah no i met megan markle in a pub and she's a very much a social climber and she basically

00:26:49.740 threw me over to to get into with the royals and i was like wow that's in bowl dude he said that and

00:26:56.060 that's what got me on the deep dive with megan markle and listen i also i realized the monarchy

00:27:01.980 is a sensitive subject with you guys no no just go for it just go for it but as an outsider

00:27:09.320 it's not my thing so as an outsider here's what i like about the monarchy go on are they flawed

00:27:15.380 douchebag inbred people yeah do they have a birthright to be better than anybody of course not

00:27:22.300 it's absurd we're well past the time of kings and queens it's stupid it really is however it brings a

00:27:28.460 lot of i think tourism to your country it's deeply it's a tradition that is revered and it's it's it's

00:27:36.620 everywhere you go to the king's arms pub everything is named after the royalties okay great fine i think

00:27:43.080 i think this last queen was amazing i think she really took it seriously um charles i mean he gets

00:27:50.200 it went very late in the game which sucks for him and that camilla please she's no queen okay

00:27:56.580 why is she not a queen she's a side piece let's make it real she's a side piece you can't argue

00:28:03.640 with it no she was a side piece okay anyway i have a lot of opinions sorry let's get back to megan

00:28:09.080 the point of the story is i think it's disgusting to come into a culture and be so willfully ignorant

00:28:16.820 of it and to go i didn't even know that his his grandmother's the queen and isn't it silly i had

00:28:26.280 to do a curtsy like at medieval times and it's so disrespectful and so gross as an american like

00:28:33.840 as an american i'm i'm a donkey as well culturally i get that but if i was going to go meet the queen

00:28:39.180 you better believe i'm going to figure out how to do that properly it's not my culture dude respect

00:28:43.960 that so i find i found that to be very arrogant and then to go into britain and be like i'm just

00:28:49.820 gonna do what i like to do i'm the center of the show and it's like bitch you're not the center of

00:28:53.780 the show actually it's the older brother and his wife that are going to inherit the throne

00:28:58.200 and those two know what the they're doing and no one gives a about you and your beige outfits and

00:29:03.540 that like so she made it about her because i think she wanted to be famous she wanted to be a

00:29:07.940 big celebrity and then she got harry out of the system and now she's in the thing that pissed me

00:29:13.460 off about her and i'm not someone who follows it closely really was when she tried to make all that

00:29:19.200 about race after we had this wedding and which like the entire country got down on its knees and

00:29:25.280 like and the queen accelerated by the way the queen pushed up the everything so that they could get

00:29:30.580 married sooner right and it's just like it's just like and look it was a time in which a lot of

00:29:36.160 people played that game i just didn't think and that's what piers got fired for i think is talking

00:29:41.060 about that basically saying isn't that right yeah it was kind of it was also saying like did you

00:29:46.680 remember the scandal where there was she said it was racist because they were going to have a baby

00:29:52.160 and people in the royal family were speculating what color the baby was going to be yes like my mom

00:29:56.600 is venezuelan i remember that that's basically what people used to talk about every time someone

00:30:03.340 had a kid yeah yeah and they'd say something like to my grandfather i hope he doesn't have your

00:30:08.780 arabic nose a woman with that nose she will never find a mate yeah yeah yeah that's how it is but that

00:30:15.040 that's how in in every family especially if there's mixed heritage that's what everyone talks about

00:30:20.740 every time and even okay so so what let's say worst case scenario somebody's racist

00:30:25.140 okay so what what are you gonna do about it you know how many stupid things have been said to me

00:30:33.320 over the years you're a female comic women shouldn't talk okay so what am i gonna sorry about that

00:30:38.380 i shouldn't i shouldn't have said that what you know what i'm saying it's it doesn't mean you go to

00:30:44.780 oprah and blast your your in-laws i don't care who they are blast your in-laws yeah if i went public

00:30:51.400 with everything my in-laws have said but that's what i'm saying is your family perfect and squeaky

00:30:57.200 clean no whose family you have older people in the family that say inappropriate yeah it's like

00:31:03.920 normal dude exactly and like the uncle is shall we just say dodgy to put it mildly the uncle the

00:31:11.780 uncle uncle andrew oh uncle andrew what is he got this he got this uh disinherited didn't he

00:31:18.860 well the thing is you can't strip effectively apparently i want to see where this sentence

00:31:25.640 yeah apparently it was saying that you can't strip him of his title i don't think there's something kind

00:31:32.600 of legalese where you can't do that but he they've kind of just been like just like stay out of the

00:31:37.660 picture yes because you know you bring a bit of shame yes a bit of shame a lot of yeah just a

00:31:43.620 little just a little because he turns out that it might have lied about the epstein thing cutting him

00:31:48.560 off and there was that email that came out that basically said i'll stand with you till the death

00:31:52.680 yeah and then fergy with 40 grand in front of her or whatever yeah i don't think are we getting

00:31:57.120 ourselves in legal trouble by saying all this i don't know allegedly allegedly yeah that's how we

00:32:02.340 get busted in america same here same in britain allegedly allegedly if you say allegedly

00:32:06.760 everything is fine but the daughters have separated themselves from andrew because they want to stay in

00:32:12.380 favor from what i understand with the king and the current maybe they don't like their dad being a bit

00:32:17.620 of a nonce yeah for sure wait am i i'm not sure i really should say that i'm doing stand-up right

00:32:25.320 i'm just i'm just a comedian i'm an idiot man what do i know generally that is not an area i have

00:32:34.660 done a lot of research into but i'm glad we're we're delving into yeah so anyway yeah this is why

00:32:40.040 you love piers because he stood up to megan markles well to everybody i think that i think he's right

00:32:45.960 dude it's like what are you gonna you're gonna fire a guy because he had actually they can fire

00:32:49.780 you if you work for a private company for saying whatever but i don't know i like that he's ballsy

00:32:56.580 and he says inappropriate things that's fun do you know what i think like i did this clip and i just i

00:33:02.600 put it on the internet to me just doing a little rant about megan markle it went viral because

00:33:06.620 and i did the reason it went viral because there was a line in it where it went this is what happens

00:33:11.320 when you marry a woman much smarter than you and that is harry harry she's look whatever you think

00:33:17.940 about her she's not that no she's a smart woman brilliant and brilliant and super hot beautiful

00:33:23.740 yeah smoking she is and i don't think and this is my controversial opinion people on the right

00:33:30.440 don't admit this she's an she she's a 10 of course she's a 10 of course she's a 10 no

00:33:36.420 i mean she will eat you yeah after she's had sex with you yes but she's a 10 so maybe that's even

00:33:44.040 and i think in america it's fine to be ambitious it's fine to be that it's fine to be a 10 who wants

00:33:50.420 to seize it but you can't do that with the monarchy because it's not it's not a capitalist

00:33:54.760 thing it's i think you can you just can't do it the way that she did it which is to come in

00:34:01.320 your point earlier i think was bang on which is like you've got to play by the rules of the game

00:34:06.220 you can't come in and be like this game needs to change because i'm here yeah who are you this is

00:34:11.080 thousands of years of right tradition but you're right so so here's the flip side harry is a bit

00:34:17.380 of a pussy okay yes okay because we all know the guy that wants to get out of the family and say

00:34:22.880 you mom and dad so what do they do they marry a bitch right and the girl gives him the balls to

00:34:29.700 stand up to mommy and daddy and now he leaves the family so i think harry i read his book too

00:34:34.340 the spa and um yeah he was you know he doesn't want to be there he doesn't want to do the job

00:34:42.020 i don't think no he didn't he was like uh he was uh an athletic guy he was he said that you know

00:34:49.160 want to go to eat and wherever they all go to eat and darling yeah and he wasn't like a straight

00:34:54.400 day student he was just kind of a sweet goofball kid but he didn't want to he he didn't want to do

00:35:00.580 the family biz and i think he married her to get out of it you know i once did a gig in uh near near

00:35:06.460 eaton and there was a lady in the front row and i was i was emceeing and i said oh what do you do

00:35:11.840 she goes i'm a teacher i go where do you teach and there was a bit of a pause she looked at her

00:35:16.440 friend and went eaton college i was like okay i went when did you teach at eaton she gave the years

00:35:23.260 and i went what did you teach and she went art and i went did you teach prince harry

00:35:29.380 there was silence and i went didn't he get an e in a level art and i went that's not a high grade

00:35:37.900 okay that is that is literally under the f it goes from a to e okay we have f that's what stops for us

00:35:44.920 and then you which is ungraded which is a total felt e and i went how did you manage to make that work

00:35:50.760 and she said and i quote i did the best i could with the materials on offer

00:35:55.720 so i don't think he's a super bright guy this very hot very intelligent very beautiful actress swans in

00:36:03.940 and then you know i feel a lawsuit coming on

00:36:07.120 they can't get me overseas right no no you stay in texas in your fortress with your with your this is

00:36:16.760 this is like candace getting pinched by uh what's her name macron's wife you think she's a you think

00:36:26.660 she's a dude no no what is this retarded that people come up why do people i have to say i have

00:36:35.320 i have to say though there is a small part of me that worries because i've talked a lot of

00:36:39.820 about candace and bridget macron because i think the idea that she's a dude is retarded

00:36:43.920 but there is like a two percent chance i'm wrong and then i'm gonna look like the biggest idiot in

00:36:49.160 the world so i don't know but i don't think so you think you do you think she's a dude can i tell you

00:36:54.160 how retarded i am so i went down candace's rabbit hole i read the book she recommended and everything

00:37:01.180 and i'm like it's not impossible like you said is it plausible no but it is possible but we will see

00:37:08.620 because she's got to like supply her dna right or something to resolve this lawsuit

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00:39:05.340 i don't know we'll find out soon enough if she has a dick or had a dick or whatever

00:39:13.000 but the thing is she got together with um macron is the point of this episode to make sure we can

00:39:20.780 we can never work again is that what we're doing here yeah yeah i'm sorry

00:39:25.160 no it's not your fault i just get excited to talk to you guys because i have so many

00:39:29.600 questions for you like what like what well let's can we talk about the muslims and bretons please i'm

00:39:35.100 just curious as an outsider okay okay here's what i my understanding is that culturally you guys

00:39:41.300 it it sucks culturally yeah like to have your dominant culture be overtaken is that what the

00:39:48.360 issue is i don't think that's that's what's it's not being overtaken so muslims are about

00:39:52.580 four million out of 70 in the uk okay um the the issue i think is that while most muslims are

00:40:01.940 perfectly decent people they follow the law they do everything else that everyone else does

00:40:06.020 there is a fringe that are extremist and instead of dealing with them the way that you would deal

00:40:12.740 with any other people who are engaging in criminal activity there is a feeling that they are being

00:40:18.320 given some leeway or the crimes that are committed by say grooming gangs rape gangs which were in some

00:40:26.900 areas very heavily muslim or not just muslim but from very particular areas of former british empire

00:40:33.860 those crimes were overlooked and in fact covered up to avoid upsetting what they called community

00:40:40.420 cohesion so this is the issue right like if if you want to be muslim and someone else wants to be

00:40:46.280 christian and someone else wants to be jewish and everyone practiced their religion and follows the

00:40:50.300 laws and is faithful to their country and blah blah blah blah blah no one would have any issue with that but the

00:40:56.040 moment you start creating a society where different groups get special treatment that's when people

00:41:01.200 suddenly go well hold on a second why is that happening that's i think what the the stuff that

00:41:06.940 you guys are hearing over here that's what's got it because i think as a i'm an old school immigrant

00:41:12.060 kind of like you are we're both from like the soviet world my parents when we came to the u.s they

00:41:18.780 were like no we are america now we assimilate to this i don't put the hungarian flag outside the house

00:41:23.960 there's a reason for that we are in america now and i think it's considered uh is that racist now

00:41:30.420 to go yeah no no you're i understand where you're from that's cool like you can eat your you can do

00:41:35.720 your thing you speak your language but you do have to abide by like these rules because we're in this

00:41:41.120 country now well you need to buy in it's not just see people always talk about you got to follow the

00:41:45.300 rules but i don't think it's just about that i think it's what your parents said which is like

00:41:49.400 we become this new thing and we let go of a lot of the that we brought with us because we're american

00:41:56.820 now yeah right and this is the concern i think with immigrant like america in my experience is like

00:42:02.040 the most pro-immigration place in the world yes right is that fair thank god and yes and thank god

00:42:07.480 for it because i wouldn't fucking be here if it weren't for that and at the same time there's also

00:42:12.120 the feeling that like like you said we welcome you but it's like if you welcome someone to your house

00:42:18.900 like take your

00:42:19.400 shoes off if it's a no shoes house take your shoes off there you go that's it it really is as

00:42:24.240 simple as that and that's what's happening in europe is a lot of people feel like

00:42:28.240 people aren't taking the shoes off yeah and in fact we're supposed to say well that's their

00:42:33.900 cult they wear shoes in the house so they should wear shoes in our house

00:42:36.560 that doesn't wash i know and it's such like a it's such a fussy line with that with those two

00:42:43.440 cultures you know east and west it's fussier and i think certain cultures meld easy

00:42:48.900 easier yes yes others yeah right well if both cultures have shoes off in the house yeah

00:42:54.360 then it's kind of easy yeah and it's also as well there's certain religions from the same roughly the

00:43:02.440 same part of the world that have melded very well with with british culture for instance hindus and

00:43:07.220 sikhs yeah they've never been really any problems like sikhs are in fact some of the most patriotic

00:43:12.900 people and when it comes to like getting pissed no one gets pissed harder than the sea

00:43:16.880 i know people who've been to a sikh wedding like dude every one of those f**kers drank me under the

00:43:21.900 table yeah you know so it's kind of part of the culture whereas as well there's also the specter

00:43:27.800 of terrorism with is like with with the fringes of the muslim religion and when you look at you know

00:43:34.460 the majority of terrorists or extremists that are on the watch list in the uk the majority are

00:43:41.160 islamic terrorists or people who support or sympathize with those particular actions and

00:43:47.240 you're looking at this and you're going well this unless we actually have a full and frank conversation

00:43:52.740 about what's going on here and how we deal with it then the problem is only going to get worse

00:43:57.960 but nobody wants to have the conversation and every time you do you get diversity is our strength

00:44:04.360 diversity is our great this is what every time there's a terrorist attack diversity is our greatest

00:44:08.400 strength right and if you keep making that that connection for people they go what the f**k are you

00:44:15.040 talking about yeah eventually right because that the fact that there's people from different like in

00:44:21.820 america there's people from different places in one country that's fine uh as long as we are honest

00:44:28.120 about where certain problems are coming from and we all get together and really focus on fixing them

00:44:32.960 a thousand percent instead of all getting together and focusing on covering up the problem a thousand

00:44:38.440 that's what's happening in the uk a thousand percent and that's why you're here and i get it okay

00:44:43.080 yeah because in the in this country you've got the left and the right and you've got the texans who

00:44:48.980 were like you get out of my country i don't want y'all and then you have california that's like

00:44:52.880 everybody come over it's fine so somewhere in between those two is i think where we come and find

00:44:58.660 a solution so who's in your there's enough people going this get out of our country are there and

00:45:04.180 there's enough people on the other side going oh it's fine so somewhere it's gotta well and the

00:45:10.380 issue is which is slightly different in america is the people going oh my god isn't it wonderful that

00:45:16.120 they come over here and it's everything's beautiful they're the ones in charge they're

00:45:20.400 the ones in charge of the government at the moment yeah and they're the ones in charge of all the

00:45:24.560 institutions so what's actually getting pumped out and the party line is oh my god guys diversity is

00:45:29.840 our strength ignore the bombings gotcha whereas all the like regular particularly blue collar because

00:45:36.100 we're far more class-based society than you are here so all the working class people are just like

00:45:41.140 mate there's grooming gangs happening and there's terrorism and whatever else and their voice

00:45:48.200 hasn't been heard but now with the internet and with the rise of certain political figures whether

00:45:53.300 mainstream or on the fringe we're having the discussion whether you like it or not yeah i like

00:45:59.000 that i forgot you guys have the class system that blows me away that's the amazing thing about america

00:46:05.060 it's like if you've got money you're upper class if you don't have money doesn't matter who your dad

00:46:09.940 was it doesn't matter well it's true my indian stepfather that's what he loved the best about

00:46:15.280 america he's like no basically i'm white because i'm a millionaire

00:46:18.600 i'm a republican you can buy skin color in america yeah kind of can yeah you kind of can oh totally

00:46:27.480 but what is this horse with you guys you guys are still stuck in this what is is it real anymore

00:46:33.300 i mean it still exists it's not it doesn't

00:46:35.800 he's from a lower middle class upper working class background and he's got a giant chip on

00:46:46.580 his shoulder so even now that we've built this thing from complete scratch with our own efforts

00:46:54.840 no one's held us down no one's lifted us up it's entirely on merit no one's holding him back he's

00:47:00.320 still got this yeah talk him out of it what's your man what are you upset about you made it why are

00:47:05.880 you still pissed off at the at the rich identity you are richie now but this is the hypocrisy you

00:47:12.160 can't play both sides what do you mean correct either you're rich or you're not man you got to

00:47:16.720 own it you can't because i was a poorie growing up an immigrant piece of nobody zero and then i made

00:47:23.040 my shit i made my money in america and now i'm a rich piece of shit i'm a i'm a hypocrite

00:47:27.580 i'm a i'm a douchebag you just you gotta surrender to being an older douchebag that's what happens when

00:47:34.000 you get older this is great advice for your friends you just become your parents i mean

00:47:42.040 your parents were poor so forget that yeah yeah yeah well i'm becoming my mother that's that's worrying

00:47:48.520 that's worrying for all of us is this like the gallagher brothers is this where they still

00:47:52.460 have to pretend to be like i'm the king of manchester what does he say i'm the mayor of

00:47:58.060 manchester even though he's like they clearly lived yeah that's why i keep trying to tell him it's like

00:48:02.460 you gotta let go you gotta like like but it's so but i it's so strong on people's side i love oasis

00:48:09.260 for the record i'm huge fans i don't know if they watch the show but you can't give it a go

00:48:15.060 yeah but we for example we have a guy uh who's big he's become a big youtuber now he's very kind

00:48:21.220 of progressive left-wing guy called gary's economics right this guy is a multi multi multi multi

00:48:27.620 millionaire who made his money in the city in the finance world and now he does videos in a dirty

00:48:34.660 t-shirt about how the government is about to screw you over because you're working class

00:48:40.480 right like and that works in britain because people look at him and they go well he looks

00:48:45.260 like me he sounds like me and i'm going he's a multi-million yeah look i'm not having a go at

00:48:52.300 him i'm just this is a way of explaining the classes well no no i understand so he's playing

00:48:56.400 both sides of the thing yeah is the government screwing over the working class

00:49:00.200 they're screwing over everybody at this point i would say i would say we have come to the point

00:49:07.280 in the uk where actually the model is no longer working all right let's test this uh little thing

00:49:12.460 that we're playing out here how do you feel about tax the rich francis how do i feel about tax the

00:49:16.460 rich yeah well how do you feel about that as a slogan huh how do i tell me mr working class man

00:49:21.680 no no look how do you feel about it look look i think that what no go on no i'm trying to explain

00:49:28.800 i'm trying to explain i think that in order to uplift the poorest in society you need a strong

00:49:33.620 do you sound like a politician man trickle down economics this is what marguerite stature

00:49:39.580 we're saying yeah i'm just a comedian yeah the rising tides lift all boats is what i'm saying

00:49:47.080 exactly yeah look what people want is opportunity and the chance to succeed no it's not no it's not

00:49:54.820 they want to tax the rich take their money and then give it to themselves that's what people

00:49:59.160 actually want 75 of people in britain support wealth tax well why aren't you one of them if

00:50:04.580 you're working class mate no because i just i think that those type of economics don't work on

00:50:11.580 the long term i think they may sound good and they may feel good quite like socialism but if you look

00:50:16.120 at the actual way it's applied i don't think it works what you're saying is you care about the

00:50:20.120 country yeah exactly well i think that is the big distinction between at least last time i was in

00:50:25.960 it's a good answer anyway it is a very diplomatic thank you but um you guys don't want to pay any

00:50:31.120 tax because you know it's horse where does it go i have a different view on it i don't mind paying 50

00:50:39.440 tax which is what we effectively do in the uk that's bonkers bro if that buys me and the entire

00:50:48.700 country good public services good infrastructure blah blah blah blah blah that's not what's

00:50:54.620 happening right i i was walking through london do you know you of course you've been to london loads

00:51:00.320 you know mayfair it's like the richest part of the country and i saw one of these on a on a electric

00:51:07.940 bike with a balaclava on drive past a tour american tourist is it because i could hear from the accent

00:51:15.320 and snatch like a boutique bag out of his hand 20 miles an hour just carry on like that right

00:51:21.640 the london is becoming like and then i tell people about it everyone who lives in london's like yeah i

00:51:26.800 had my phone stolen last week i had this like that's not worth 50 tax no that's why i left california

00:51:33.280 right that's how high i was getting there and there was no service there was nothing there just homeless

00:51:38.280 people living in the streets and it was terrible yeah and then you go why am i living here why did i work

00:51:43.580 my ass off for 20 years to give half my money to the government and they're not spending it properly

00:51:48.280 yeah so but you guys do give a rip about your communities more than we do like these uh council

00:51:56.620 houses is that what they're called in fancy neighborhoods where like you'll be in like a

00:52:00.420 nice neighborhood and you're like wait what's that doing here and then you're like no this is

00:52:05.200 poor people get to live in this neighborhood like that blows my mind as american we don't

00:52:10.060 never do that you know there are specific whole sections where we just push the poor

00:52:15.640 but like does that work i mean look until recently i'm going to be honest you i think it did i think

00:52:24.100 where we are now sadly and i think this is why a lot of these people are saying tax the rich wealth tax

00:52:29.440 is because the gap between rich and poor it just seems to be growing all the time and i think it's a

00:52:35.440 huge problem and i don't think people on the right are actually honest when they're like oh people vote

00:52:40.440 for zora and mandani for instance they're all dumb they're all students are all woke it's like yeah

00:52:45.140 but dude it's like four and a half grand a month rent for a basic flat in new york and that's fine if

00:52:51.740 you can afford it but the vast majority of people who work hard do good jobs put up a productive

00:52:57.500 members of society they can't afford that so of course if someone comes along and goes freeze rent

00:53:03.020 screw landlords can you really blame them of course of course i know but i don't i don't know

00:53:09.420 because i don't i'm not there right now like in this country like when i was in my 20s i did anything

00:53:15.000 and everything to like get by to become an artist so i was working shitty day jobs and but the kids

00:53:20.540 tell me now they're like there's no jobs there's just no jobs and i'm like i don't know is that true

00:53:24.540 is it not true i'm out of touch i don't know yeah and it's kind of the worry because i don't think

00:53:30.460 it works to call people and we should have learned this from trump and brexit and all of this

00:53:37.040 when people are angry and they have an idea which doesn't work like socialism and communism we've

00:53:44.400 seen in our countries it simply doesn't work you are not going to win someone over by calling them

00:53:49.580 stupid or retarded or going look at this person that's x y and z just like you're not going to

00:53:56.120 make people want to vote for trump any less by going oh you're stupid dumb and racist yeah these

00:54:01.760 these tactics don't work and i think we face real issues within our own society and we need to have

00:54:07.820 a conversation about it go how are we going to solve this because we can't have people who like

00:54:12.680 work all day every day barely living and just have the other side of it which is a very few super rich

00:54:19.320 this episode has become us ranting at you about this no i love that i want to know this stuff

00:54:24.260 because all i know is what i see in you know tech talk but but it's also what do you see on tech

00:54:29.760 talk i saw the protests i saw a lot of right like hardcore right wing people protesting muslims in your

00:54:37.220 country and i was like well surely that's not the whole story obviously because i mean look

00:54:42.180 in america capitalism has worked to some extent but it's terrible for the welfare overall of human

00:54:49.940 beings i think we know that and you have to like divorce yourself from the inhumanity of capitalism

00:54:55.860 the way it works in our country i don't know i feel like you guys had a moderate system yeah we're

00:55:01.680 like people there was a welfare state is that what it's called yes yeah where there's a basic level of

00:55:07.040 humanity that's disappearing i mean in america too we had some level of like giving a rip about people

00:55:14.540 but it's just gone i i don't know i feel like people are more and more

00:55:20.180 there's less of this happening face to face right yeah like i can see in your face right now you're

00:55:28.100 thinking and we're knowing we're having connection and there's this is very different than like these

00:55:33.560 two these three assholes you rich bitch you know which the course yeah i don't know but i know

00:55:41.120 what's gonna happen but that's such a shame because i knew do you mean like when i used to talk to people

00:55:45.660 from america like their jobs your jobs were so well paid even like you're a lorry driver you would get

00:55:51.600 like a hundred grand a year oh is that right yeah you should have done that when you were sorry

00:55:57.800 whoops you know if you do all the overtime and look it's a tough hard job and you're on the road

00:56:03.460 and whatever else but this idea that that's going is kind of that's yeah and then ai is coming and

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00:57:32.520 yeah that is that's the next well it's already happening it's already happening uh it it's it's

00:57:38.720 really we were talking with joe about this like it's gonna be a wild ride yes yes and i don't

00:57:47.640 know how to prepare my children for that one i don't think anyone knows i don't even know if

00:57:52.140 there's gonna be such a thing as a job 20 years from now can we say that can we say there's gonna

00:57:57.740 be jobs what if the ai and the robots do everything right then we don't need to work and you go that's

00:58:03.640 great is it though is it have we ever had a time in human history when large numbers of people didn't

00:58:10.780 have meaning and purpose and structure to their lives and had abundance saudi arabia oil money

00:58:19.180 don't they take the oil money and divvy it up basically is that how that works again i'm totally

00:58:25.300 ignorant yeah next but but but saudi arabia they have no purpose they seem to be chilling pretty hard

00:58:31.660 it's a great example the leisure class okay theoretically we want to create like a leisure class

00:58:37.100 right that's the point of ai but you're right it won't go that way why because men need to do

00:58:41.380 things women can just exist i think i can just chill and garden and pet my cats my kids you guys

00:58:47.400 need to go out and fight stuff pick up swords stab things that's that's a male thing man you guys have

00:58:54.700 itchy assholes and you need to go do things that's such a good point so what are you gonna do i don't

00:58:59.800 know kill the robots uh i think some people are gonna try i hate them i hate these cars that drive

00:59:05.740 themselves around austin i every time i see one i give it the bird and i call it the enemy

00:59:10.920 passive resistance yeah yeah you man yeah robots that's a really good point about men men need to

00:59:17.620 do it's one of the interesting things that kind of got suppressed for a while is like we pretend

00:59:22.580 there's no differences between men and women at the cultural level that's such a dumb thing to do

00:59:28.600 kids you have kids yet yeah what do you have boys girls i have a boy okay so i mean uh you know

00:59:36.700 they come out wired this way my kids make guns out of everything there's nothing i don't love

00:59:43.060 they do live in texas they do just snakes and guns uh yeah no totally my son just can't he can't sit

00:59:51.360 still he just runs around and smashes into yeah hits things that's and that's what he needs to do

00:59:57.020 because he's a boy you know and i get it because i understand that you know women have been repressed

01:00:03.100 for so long and subjugated and whatever and then we got mad and we were like we're gonna do it

01:00:08.800 and now there needs to be a back uh come to jesus again with the two of us it's just two out of

01:00:15.100 balance and i think women have forgotten what their their value is being feminine there's so much

01:00:21.740 power in the feminine there's so much power in being a mother a woman that's being devalued it's

01:00:27.020 too bad i don't want to do what my husband does especially after having cancer last year i was like

01:00:31.360 you know what dude i don't want to do the road 50 weeks out of the year for what more money more fame

01:00:37.020 i don't care anymore i do not care anymore let him do it he likes that let him make the money i

01:00:43.100 want to sit home and garden pet my cats and there's value in that because i have two little

01:00:47.780 boys that i'm raising yeah that's such a profound point i'm so glad you made it as well did you always

01:00:53.000 want kids that was such a funny segue no i thought i was a career woman and that i would just dominate

01:00:59.580 the stand-up world and be a multi-millionaire there's a reason i ask you about this because

01:01:03.360 it's kind of a weird thing as a guy to even delve to even dip your toe in the waters of this

01:01:08.820 conversation but we are this is a fact i'm just saying what i'm experiencing people can hate me

01:01:14.600 whatever we are meeting a lot of people all over the world but particularly in the us uk etc

01:01:20.480 who are women we've got to the late 30s early 40s they haven't had kids they haven't been able to

01:01:26.600 find that relationship let's talk about this you know where you're going i think and it's like

01:01:31.320 and and a lot of them are like sort of very carefully revealing that they kind of like feel

01:01:38.520 that they will like to about what they're supposed to do with their life they're supposed to do this

01:01:43.140 and now they they did all that and they're kind of like wait i didn't i didn't end up where i want

01:01:49.460 to turn up meaning childless unmarried yeah yeah because i think we were sold a bill of goods on

01:01:57.200 feminism that just isn't how it is right so we needed to get out of the kitchen this is true

01:02:03.560 we didn't have any choices we didn't have no options okay so we needed betty friedan we needed

01:02:10.520 gloria steinem but gloria steinem never had children and that's that's the piece of feminism

01:02:17.760 that is missing from all of this is motherhood how does that fit in and how does marriage fit in

01:02:24.380 because we figured out how to become independent of the system kind of but is that really what we

01:02:30.160 all want is to be outside of a system that has worked historically for thousands and thousands

01:02:36.220 of years and there's a biological drive to reproduce and and i think too if you spend and this is just

01:02:42.400 practical i'm gonna be 50 in june and if i had daughters this is what i would tell them

01:02:46.800 find the guy you're gonna marry in your 20s that's when tom and i met and if you're banging all of

01:02:53.660 these dudes and you're wasting your time on the apps having meaningless sex for two what your 20s

01:03:02.020 your 30s and now you go okay i'm gonna settle down now i'm gonna get serious about finding a man

01:03:06.940 well guess what all the first draft picks are gone because the good guys got married in their 20s

01:03:12.600 and early 30s and who's the leftover you're like oh there's this one weird guy that's never had a

01:03:18.660 girlfriend and you know so especially biologically that's a lie women have to adhere to their biology

01:03:26.140 we can't have babies really in our 40s unless we have medical intervention which i did i'm

01:03:31.380 totally open about that because i did the career thing first and then i did motherhood i have you know

01:03:38.060 if i had to do it over again i would have said i don't know about this career thing

01:03:41.720 i'll let my husband make the money and i i would have had 10 more kids

01:03:46.700 10 years younger i would have had more yeah really i love it because i think that's the meaning of this

01:03:53.100 existence is to to love your family and and love what else is there fame who gives a

01:04:00.480 i'm gonna be dead no one's gonna remember me in a few years right who remembers benny hill

01:04:05.640 do you guys even know who that is yeah of course he's a legend but but i don't think about him as

01:04:11.080 often as i think about my son you know what i mean yeah yeah yeah yeah but then again the

01:04:17.280 societal pressure for women is much less to achieve we just have to be attractive and thin

01:04:22.940 and young you guys have to be rich and successful and tall yeah at least two of the three

01:04:28.920 at least two of the three yeah you could yes exactly you could be ugly and rich that's fair

01:04:35.420 enough but thanks for looking at me while she said

01:04:38.600 but i was gonna ask a serious question okay okay but you know you know it seems and

01:04:55.180 the women have been sold a dud yeah and it's only now that they're waking up

01:05:01.340 and i really hope that we're gonna have an honest conversation about this because the number of women

01:05:07.760 that i've spoken to these are really smart women career women lawyers whatever it may be

01:05:12.600 and they're unaware of their own biology that because they weren't taught it in school no one

01:05:17.780 explained to them hey if you want kids the best time to have it is probably in your mid-20s yeah

01:05:23.440 biologically yes yeah emotionally yeah you know i'm actually relatively happy that we had our son in

01:05:30.960 our late 30s because the parent that i am is like i mean 20 year old me was a friend yeah right

01:05:37.580 i mean 30 year old me was in it i'm still kind of an idiot but like of course but less so over time

01:05:43.020 yeah so there's probably some kind of middle ground it just feels like what i see is a lot of people

01:05:48.780 are just a lot of women are getting to that age and they're just realizing that the thing that

01:05:55.520 they thought they were supposed to focus on yes is not the thing that makes them happy

01:06:00.420 a hundred percent and if you say that you're going to get crucified by the feminist

01:06:04.740 but that's why that's why people don't say it i was just thinking about this this morning on the

01:06:10.280 toilet i'm so excited that we're talking about this you were thinking about this i was this morning why

01:06:14.960 are you thinking about it because like i said i've been through a major illness i've been through two

01:06:19.500 kids i've had fame i've had money i've traveled i've done a lot of and now in my 50s i'm gonna go

01:06:27.180 okay well what is it what is it what's the what's the work here is it to be happy what does that mean

01:06:33.580 was it about the stuff what is about getting famous no and and i

01:06:41.340 i'm getting lost in my own sauce what did you say before i just said why were you thinking about it

01:06:48.080 on the toilet because it's what what's the point like what what does make women happy sorry that

01:06:53.520 was it what makes women happy and i was thinking on the toilet well what makes me happy is unfortunately

01:07:00.980 or fortunately the traditional things and now had i said that to my 20 year old self i would be

01:07:07.220 horrified because i was a good feminist and i fought my way through comedy and i did all the clubs

01:07:14.220 i was i'll show you i'll be the best female comic and i carried this anger that compelled me for 20

01:07:21.240 years right and then and then you become i became a mom and i got humbled by illness and then i was like

01:07:28.220 okay so what makes me happy i know what makes me happy i can't speak for all women but is there

01:07:34.420 something to my biology to my essence possibly possibly do we know what makes all men happy i don't

01:07:41.800 yeah we do yeah stay explode jobs football yeah yeah i mean i'm not i'm not that into football but

01:07:48.900 yeah but i think too it's like the this it was the male ideal of success that ruined women

01:07:54.720 it was this idea that in order to become equal we had to be like you yes that's the problem i have to

01:08:01.480 have my career exactly like todd's i have to make successful like this is not going to work for me

01:08:05.840 this is not going to work because i'm a mother my body can't keep up with this pace of work it's not

01:08:11.900 good and it makes the woman angry resentful bitter and now i'm useless because if my kid can't come for

01:08:19.720 a snuggle and my cat can't come you know i'm the center of the home this is the truth and it's not

01:08:25.380 pretty to say anymore but that's just i that's what i learned and it's so interesting that you touched

01:08:31.460 on power before because we were talking about power and women want to be powerful like men are

01:08:37.300 powerful women are super powerful just not in the same way just not in the same way a hundred

01:08:43.780 percent babe we are the ones the puppet masters no offense but there's a reason i'm sitting here

01:08:50.100 talking to you and my husband's on a plane to indiana right now okay and i mean i'm so grateful

01:08:57.120 that he does do that i'm not saying that i manipulate him to do that he wants to do that

01:09:01.280 but yeah women's lives can be fantastic if you let the guys just do their own let them do it

01:09:09.080 i always think about margaret thatcher um i'm fascinated by her too when she got into parliament

01:09:15.060 and her voice was too high so she had to talk in a lower register to be understood by the men and

01:09:21.960 this and that to be taken seriously taken seriously she had to masculinize herself and like okay maybe

01:09:29.380 that's what she liked but at what cost to her spiritually i don't know i don't know her i don't

01:09:34.620 know she didn't seem terribly happy she seemed to work a whole lot maybe that was her secret to

01:09:39.580 happiness and it's also as well and i'd love to get your opinion on this there's the whole kind of sex

01:09:45.020 positive thing and there's part of me that goes that's that's just an idea from a dude who's like

01:09:51.000 let's be free polyamory is not a female invention do you know what i mean no and behind that there's

01:09:56.920 some dumb bitch on tiktok going and i love being polyamorous it's the best thing for us i get my

01:10:01.980 partner i will say this and again this is very controversial too spiritually and physically it

01:10:09.060 is not good for women to be as to be promiscuous i i couldn't do it and i put it this way like a guy

01:10:19.300 blasts a load into you think about that like just a dude blasts his load in me like who are you bro

01:10:30.620 that you're just gonna dump your clip in me and then like i would carry the biological responsibility

01:10:37.680 of that it just seems rude for just some stranger to dump his semen inside of me and i should

01:10:45.360 thank him for that like who the are you bro more respect like what happened to like no court me

01:10:52.460 you gotta court me take me out for dinner at least take me out for dinner and then maybe i'll

01:10:56.780 you you know but coffee date is that what people are doing coffee dates now and i don't know francis

01:11:02.560 is the one that's dating francis are you dating i am dating okay so tell me you're dumping clips

01:11:07.840 this is going to be a great clip by the way

01:11:14.880 who yeah so yeah this is what i found very interesting about the apps

01:11:22.160 it's that i call it nescafe dating which is like when you meet someone in real life

01:11:29.020 iro as a kid so whatever it may be iro yeah yeah there's you get to know each other you're like

01:11:35.420 oh i like her she's nice let's oh can i find a way that we can like let's say you work together

01:11:40.780 let's sit down let's talk and you know on a tuesday you might have a snatch of a conversation you're about

01:11:46.780 20 minutes like oh she's really cool and she likes this stuff and then next week you know she's at the

01:11:51.900 water cooler so you're like okay let's go and talk and gradually over time something builds and you

01:11:56.880 realize that you have in common you have shared memories shared experiences and something blossoms

01:12:03.040 yes whereas when you do the app like okay we're going to meet here at this time and whatever else

01:12:07.520 and then you sit and you have this conversation and if you're good at having a conversation you

01:12:11.600 know ways to make it work and whatever else and then it but it's very superficial it's like a tree with

01:12:18.880 no roots whereas if you meet someone organically and it blossoms over time it has roots which means

01:12:26.960 that when there's challenges that come there's there's things that hold it in place which an

01:12:32.000 instant app or whatever it simply doesn't that's true and you're less likely to blow that person off

01:12:38.640 because i hear it's really common to just kind of forget somebody that you've started an interaction

01:12:43.920 with and then you're like oh whatever that's so rude it is it wouldn't happen in real life irl if

01:12:51.920 you were by yeah you saw that bitch every day and you're like what's up henny where we've been

01:12:57.680 exactly because there's consequences to your actions and because when we see someone online

01:13:03.760 we kind of you're they're an avatar they're not a real person they're just like a little

01:13:07.440 that's so scary dude i i'm glad i got married at 20. oh you did oh yeah is she good russian woman

01:13:17.680 ukrainian even better even better so strong i'm good yeah yeah it's the best it's the best see

01:13:25.120 because my hungarian mother she told me this stuff the woman has to get you have to find this early

01:13:30.720 because nature comes in cycles nature comes you have to do things in the time and that wisdom this

01:13:37.200 ancient european wisdom is not being handed down or maybe women aren't telling their daughters like

01:13:42.560 no no dude the guy doesn't want the girl who every guy in the village has taken a ride that's

01:13:48.720 shaming i'm like no and i've got friends that are sluts and i shame them right to their faces well so

01:13:57.680 you say the mothers are not telling the daughters i don't know is it that or is it that i don't know a

01:14:05.200 the daughter maybe not listening a yeah and b the daughter is going to school yeah where she's being

01:14:12.400 told no no no no no no no you need to do this yeah this is part of your right this is what everyone's

01:14:18.480 doing yeah right and then you've got cultural influence and then you go tick tock i know so

01:14:24.400 you put all that together and like because see and and then the other weird thing is this has become

01:14:30.400 political like what you're saying what we are talking about is like right wing right and i'm

01:14:37.280 like what how did that happen what like getting married and having kids while it's like so that

01:14:43.760 you have the rest of your life together and you is that that's political that makes sense i know

01:14:48.800 somehow it got switched because i always considered myself a 90s liberal and then now that's considered

01:14:54.240 conservative right i don't know what happened i'm still a 90s liberal in my head man like i don't

01:15:00.080 know what the label means i can't i don't know what the label means but i think that

01:15:07.760 yeah we gotta shame these whores i think that's a great place to in fact i think that should be the

01:15:15.520 title of the episode yeah we gotta shame these whores all right well we are going to ask you

01:15:22.560 questions from our supporters i'm sure they're even more ridiculous than the ones great we've

01:15:26.400 submitted so that will be on the triggerpod.co that you can subscribe before we do though yeah

01:15:30.320 question we always end with yeah what's the one thing we're not talking about that we should be and

01:15:34.800 you know we've covered yeah the aliens aliens not the illegals right i'm telling you man i don't know

01:15:44.080 if you've heard about david grush yes going in front of congress testifying that uaps are real

01:15:50.000 they're interment interdimensional beings and what have you now what the is going on with this

01:15:56.960 what is this game is this a theater that the government is having is it actual disclosure where

01:16:04.160 they're really telling us that there are uaps that there are aliens but then they want plausible

01:16:09.360 deniability so then they have a guy like david grush go on there and go like there's all these

01:16:13.280 backdoor programs we never knew about it or whatever the government doesn't know about it

01:16:18.560 what the is this do you guys even know what i'm talking about because i know it's like not

01:16:23.760 no i know you americans love love yeah do you know like i don't know if this is true someone fact

01:16:30.160 check me but i think like 80 of alien sightings are in north america oh yes and i don't think that's

01:16:37.440 because the aliens love america that much what do you think it is the drugs our drugs are better

01:16:43.280 i don't we love this country yeah and we love americans but let's be honest right you are the

01:16:48.080 descendants of all the crazy people that left europe right and you went over here and you

01:16:52.400 created an amazing country out of thin air we'll skip over the native america yeah yeah yeah right and

01:16:58.720 your whole thing is like anything is possible so you're like anything's possible what if there's

01:17:03.680 aliens what if there's this americans love conspiracies in the way that no one else does

01:17:08.240 we do because we know them to be true yeah watergate we have a distrust in our own system right

01:17:16.320 because they've proven us they've proven to us that they're bags so that's why i find intriguing aliens

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