TRIGGERnometry - November 02, 2023


‘Stop Making Us Pretend’ - Bill Maher


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51 minutes

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8,124

Sentence count

465

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18

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135

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Comedian Bill Maher joins Jemele to discuss his new show Random Talk Club, his new book, and why he thinks the left is a bunch of idiots. He also discusses why he doesn t like the idea of having a monopoly on the truth.

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00:00:01.000 The left went to places that we all know are goofy. 0.99
00:00:07.000 They don't fucking know that much. 0.97
00:00:09.000 So don't make pronouncements like you have a monopoly on the truth. 0.98
00:00:13.000 Why does that irritate you, Bill?
00:00:15.000 I don't like lying.
00:00:16.000 Like you say, we don't want to pretend. 0.99
00:00:19.000 Be a little fucking mysterious. 0.99
00:00:22.000 Not everybody has to know your opinion on every fucking issue. 0.99
00:00:26.000 Every kid you ever went to school with on Facebook, really? 1.00
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00:01:57.660 Bill, it's great to see you again.
00:01:59.620 Thanks. Good to see you again.
00:02:00.780 Thank you so much for giving us your time.
00:02:02.240 Listen, we'll get straight into it.
00:02:03.400 I always think of you as kind of the classical Hollywood liberal.
00:02:09.080 And in the last few years, maybe unfair characterization,
00:02:12.220 but in the last few years, you were really broken with the orthodoxy here.
00:02:16.140 You made a joke on your last show when you first came back after Rider Strike,
00:02:20.340 kind of like about not having any friends in Hollywood.
00:02:23.640 Only because he set me up for it, but it was perfect at that moment.
00:02:26.980 It was funny.
00:02:29.140 I mean, they left me.
00:02:30.340 I didn't leave them.
00:02:31.360 I mean, I'm the same.
00:02:33.080 That's what I'm always saying. 0.86
00:02:35.040 It's like the left went to places that we all know are goofy.
00:02:45.300 You know, and it's like I'm a comedian.
00:02:48.360 I'm going to make fun of funny.
00:02:50.440 You know, if you do, I mean, Obama was a scorched earth policy for comedy,
00:02:55.320 you know, which was great.
00:02:56.580 He wasn't a buffoon.
00:02:59.140 Good for the country, bad for comedy.
00:03:01.080 Yeah, right.
00:03:02.100 But that's not the case now with, you know,
00:03:05.680 I mean, identity politics and victim culture
00:03:08.780 and cancel culture, hostility to free speech.
00:03:12.760 These are all great targets and worthy targets.
00:03:17.460 And I, you know, was always willing to...
00:03:22.580 People, I think, don't remember how much I was always willing
00:03:27.160 to go after it on the left, but there just was less of it. 0.98
00:03:31.520 Clinton wasn't an idiot either. 0.98
00:03:33.460 I mean, he was, they tried to get him out of office 1.00
00:03:35.780 because of a blowjob. 0.99
00:03:36.960 Whose side was I going to be on? 0.99
00:03:39.620 Right?
00:03:42.240 So, you know, things changed.
00:03:45.000 I mean, was it Jonathan Haidt?
00:03:46.760 Is he the one who wrote the book?
00:03:48.080 And his theory, I think he got it right.
00:03:50.760 It was like 2015.
00:03:51.680 it was like Gen Z ascends or something 0.99
00:03:55.820 and like we thought they were going to backlash to the millennials.
00:03:59.440 It just got like 10 times worse.
00:04:02.980 It's like AI.
00:04:03.840 It was exponential.
00:04:05.240 But the problem is, Bill,
00:04:06.440 is that you look on comedy on TV
00:04:08.040 and with a few exceptions,
00:04:09.660 one in particular being your show,
00:04:11.820 it's got really toothless.
00:04:13.760 And that's a dangerous place.
00:04:14.920 Well, I've gotten into trouble talking about this subject before
00:04:17.960 so I'm going to take a pass on this question.
00:04:19.820 Fair enough.
00:04:20.220 Because I'm friends with some of these guys.
00:04:25.240 I certainly am an admirer of some of these guys and their talents.
00:04:29.360 So, you know, I do think I will just say your basic premise is correct
00:04:36.820 that there is one that doesn't look anything like the others.
00:04:41.260 But that's partly also because I'm not a celebrity-driven show.
00:04:45.200 I'm not having on sitcom stars and just that's, you know, what I'm doing here for Club Random.
00:04:53.320 No, I think we have great people here, but we don't necessarily talk politics.
00:04:57.840 So they're doing, you know, broad vaudevillian shows.
00:05:01.580 I'm doing a political show.
00:05:02.800 I don't have, hardly ever have a celebrity.
00:05:06.980 I mean, show business people, yes, sometimes at the beginning of the show we'll have an iconic, you know, Rod Stewart.
00:05:12.800 How are you going to say no to that or something?
00:05:14.560 But most of the show is a panel with, I mean, you were on it. 0.90
00:05:19.040 It's got to be people who are like super smart about what the fuck is going on in the world.
00:05:23.860 That's not what those guys, so some of it is just built in. 0.52
00:05:27.660 And then, you know, yeah, I mean, I have different takes on stuff.
00:05:33.740 And, you know, it's, I tell you, there is a little too much like uniformity of opinion, premise, you know.
00:05:50.360 And I think that's one of the main problems with society at the moment, Bill,
00:05:54.160 is that it does seem to be a uniformity of opinion, both on the left and the right,
00:05:58.800 where we just put ourselves into tribes
00:06:00.760 and are scared because we're in tribes
00:06:03.880 who actually go, hang on, I don't agree with that.
00:06:06.900 Yeah, I may have told this story before,
00:06:09.260 but like every year I look at writer's packets,
00:06:12.100 you know, like see who's out there.
00:06:16.460 And it's like this last,
00:06:21.220 the lack of diversity of point of view.
00:06:26.060 I mean, it's one thing to write the punchline,
00:06:27.600 But, like, what is your point of view about a subject?
00:06:29.900 So I think what they had to do was write about the, you know, events of that week, see if they can write a monologue joke.
00:06:36.660 And I think it was the week when Maloney took over in Italy.
00:06:41.880 Italy.
00:06:42.180 Yeah. 0.69
00:06:43.120 And it was, like, uniformly, she's a fascist. 0.99
00:06:46.780 Now, I know the family has fascist roots.
00:06:49.760 I mean, this came up somewhere in conversation.
00:06:51.540 And I said, well, you know, if we go back, you know,
00:06:55.940 the Democrats were the party of slavery.
00:07:00.020 So, like, everybody's got a past.
00:07:02.860 So, I don't know.
00:07:03.780 I said, I don't follow Italian politics closely,
00:07:06.640 but I'm just not, like, I'm just, like, off the get-go 0.59
00:07:09.580 going to say this lady's a fascist. 1.00
00:07:11.860 It's all one-dimensional, isn't it?
00:07:13.740 And that's what, like, every writer wrote based on the premise, 0.91
00:07:17.540 like she's a fascist. 0.92
00:07:18.500 And I was like, okay. 0.78
00:07:20.960 Yeah, that kind of stuff.
00:07:22.400 It just gets in the ether that this is the opinion to have.
00:07:25.840 And people are lazy.
00:07:27.000 They want to seem knowledgeable but not really know anything.
00:07:32.800 Nobody wants to do the reading.
00:07:34.400 You know what I mean?
00:07:34.920 Everybody wants to be the college kid who turns up,
00:07:37.460 who knows what they're talking about.
00:07:39.180 But no one wants to go and read the books.
00:07:41.000 You see that nowhere more than what's Israel.
00:07:44.160 Whenever that, now that the war is on.
00:07:48.500 You know, they just do not understand the history of this conflict and, you know, that land.
00:07:56.720 And so it's just screaming at each other over, you know, identity politics, tribalism.
00:08:04.380 But there was another thing, too, Bill, which I think where a lot of people, you gained a lot of people's respect, not that you didn't have it already from many people, but there were a lot of new people.
00:08:12.420 And you've talked about it recently about how there are conservatives now coming to see you live.
00:08:17.240 Yeah, mixed audiences.
00:08:18.680 Which is a great place to be.
00:08:20.420 Great.
00:08:21.260 But I think part of the reason is that you really made a break
00:08:26.020 with what people thought was your team over COVID.
00:08:29.300 You really made a break with them.
00:08:31.500 Absolutely.
00:08:32.480 And other things, but you're right.
00:08:35.160 I was very forthright.
00:08:38.080 I didn't hold back with what I thought.
00:08:41.840 I mean, I had already been cast as an anti-vaxxer,
00:08:45.080 which, you know, it's almost impossible to deny that
00:08:49.800 because it's very much like the witch.
00:08:52.300 If she floats, she's guilty, you know, that thing. 1.00
00:08:54.740 Like, if I deny, if I say I'm not an anti...
00:08:57.060 Well, that's what an anti-vaxxer would say.
00:08:58.780 It's just these people, you can't argue with people like that.
00:09:02.220 So, but no, my view has always been pretty much the same.
00:09:06.420 I always made a theme on Real Time from the beginning in 2003.
00:09:10.160 I remember arguing with Howard Dean, who was a doctor in 2004,
00:09:13.640 about medical, you know, just taking that position of just
00:09:17.500 I'm not all in with Western medicine
00:09:20.600 and I think there's a lot of corruption
00:09:22.760 and I think there's just a lot we don't know.
00:09:26.120 Those are my two big ones.
00:09:27.380 It's like, is there corruption?
00:09:28.920 Yes, we just found out with the Sackler family, for example,
00:09:31.660 the people who make, what was it, OxyContin,
00:09:35.760 and I think they got fined $8 billion.
00:09:38.280 I mean, that's, you know, so we know they're capable of being corrupt.
00:09:43.640 for purposely hooking people on their hillbilly heroin you know so we we know they're capable of
00:09:50.560 it but even when they're not trying to be corrupt i mean i don't think they were trying to make a
00:09:54.180 vaccine that then didn't prevent you from getting it they of course wanted that to be the result
00:10:00.640 they came up with a vaccine i think that uh is very appropriate for people who are not in good
00:10:07.460 health and probably if you have it you you would your life was saved by something that could have
00:10:14.940 killed you but i don't fit that profile so i shouldn't have had that yeah i didn't is that
00:10:20.940 why you spoke up about it because you just felt it was a one-size-fits-all correct it's not
00:10:25.640 scientific it's not even it shouldn't even be a political issue it should be a medical issue
00:10:31.180 It's just medical, all of this stuff.
00:10:34.960 So, yeah, I mean, I've certainly lost plenty of people.
00:10:43.120 But those kind of people were never really going to be completely happy with me.
00:10:48.560 And they never were completely happy with me.
00:10:50.880 You know, they didn't like me about religion stuff, you know.
00:10:54.880 But, Bill, isn't the problem as well, and you've just alluded to it, actually,
00:10:58.660 is you said politics got involved.
00:11:00.620 Now, all three of us sitting here.
00:11:03.200 Yeah, with COVID, but with everything.
00:11:05.020 Politics gets involved now with everything.
00:11:07.220 Every decision you make, just see, a perfect example of this,
00:11:11.460 Constance and I were in Amsterdam and we saw, you know,
00:11:14.160 one of these, you know, flamethrowers or flame jugglers,
00:11:16.860 whatever it's called.
00:11:17.980 And before he started his act.
00:11:19.740 A street performer.
00:11:20.340 A street performer, that's it.
00:11:21.440 Before he started his act, he gave a five-minute political lecture
00:11:25.280 about the Dutch right-wing government.
00:11:28.240 And I'm like.
00:11:29.000 And then he started juggling balls.
00:11:30.620 that's perfect you just go even with someone like this i still get politics rammed down my throat
00:11:38.060 i mean that's the problem isn't it that is certainly one of the problems it's uh a theme
00:11:43.340 also in my stand-up act now at the end when i'm uh talking about how we we can't go the
00:11:52.060 marjorie taylor green we need a national divorce route we can't we cannot get divorced even if we 1.00
00:11:57.660 want to it's just not practical it's stupid so we have to learn to yes get along and just live 0.99
00:12:05.620 side by side with assholes you can't stand and you know and part of that is just not always 0.99
00:12:12.780 talking about politics we we never used to do that when when i was a kid parents and saw their 0.98
00:12:19.200 friend saw them with their friends and it was almost considered impolite yeah politics and
00:12:25.640 religion so you didn't know that you hated this guy you know right you didn't you know he was just 0.59
00:12:31.400 your neighbor and you could and you got they got along great and you know don't share everything
00:12:37.880 would be one of my big pieces of advice be a little fucking mysterious you know not everybody 0.94
00:12:44.460 has to know your opinion on every fucking issue every kid you ever went to school with on facebook 0.99
00:12:49.980 really they have to know what you think about ivermectin just shut the fuck up everybody just 1.00
00:12:56.740 shut the fuck up about politics 24 7 and otherwise we're always going to be this because is anybody 0.99
00:13:03.800 ever convinced of anything yeah i mean well we can't even we can't even agree what men and women 0.99
00:13:11.020 are anymore so if we can't agree with that about that then how are we going to agree on something
00:13:16.760 like Israel, which is
00:13:18.980 a very, very serious, complex
00:13:21.100 issue
00:13:21.640 You can tell the women from the men 0.99
00:13:25.160 in my hut
00:13:25.800 I don't know where
00:13:28.440 I don't know what you're doing, man
00:13:30.660 Well, we're more progressive
00:13:32.920 That is not a problem
00:13:34.140 No, I know, I mean
00:13:36.760 it's easy to say
00:13:38.480 of course we do, but
00:13:40.940 yeah, I mean
00:13:43.260 that's one of those issues, but to me
00:13:45.020 it's always like if we weren't crazy and completely political, like you say, and
00:13:52.280 always partisan about everything, we could just agree, okay, some people are trans. Their
00:14:00.960 gender thoughts don't match with their gender equipment, of course. And also some of it's 0.98
00:14:09.260 trendy but nobody wants to like get on that obviously true center position i'm not saying
00:14:18.160 it just because it's taking from both sides because it's actually true some of it is trendy
00:14:23.940 and it's also a real thing that should be protected 0.96
00:14:27.280 really nobody could like run on that kind of shit there's no nobody out there who could like 0.98
00:14:35.500 fucking just take all the issues and kind of do that the border you know like yes we need to just 0.99
00:14:42.460 not have a one size fits all and also we're not gonna bomb them it's like everyone just goes to 0.99
00:14:52.020 what's nuttier isn't it weird like it's either like trans women are women doesn't matter if they 0.97
00:14:58.160 have a penis or on the other hand is like women need to go back in the kitchen isn't there some 1.00
00:15:03.040 kind of middle ground there i just feel like we talk about these issues on this kind of show and 0.99
00:15:08.820 all over the news and ever so much and it's just a very small but not that they shouldn't be
00:15:15.360 respected but it's just a very small it reminds me of albert brooks one said like
00:15:22.660 tv it's like every show is about a private detective if you look in the phone book
00:15:28.140 there's only two real private detectives i know what you mean and i get frustrated talking about
00:15:38.280 some of the stuff because a lot of it isn't that interesting it really isn't a lot of these things 0.96
00:15:42.720 the trans thing all this other stuff because as you said we all know what the fucking truth is 0.94
00:15:48.240 right and all of these political posturing positions are uh are insane however i do think 0.83
00:15:56.140 that you know the idea of truth is really important very and so what bothers me is people
00:16:03.180 making me pretend right the things that that are blatantly false right are not like the emperor's 0.96
00:16:11.880 naked and he's got his dick out no you said it very well making me pretend that's what 0.97
00:16:16.620 like a lot of the people who watch shows like yours and mine uh like about what we do 1.00
00:16:25.580 is, it's just that protestation.
00:16:28.880 Don't make me pretend.
00:16:30.780 Like, there's just a lot of pretending
00:16:32.500 because the far left woke people
00:16:36.180 are so intimidating. 1.00
00:16:39.600 They have crazy, stupid ideas 1.00
00:16:42.540 about a lot of stuff, 1.00
00:16:44.440 but they're really good at media
00:16:45.980 and people are just intimidated
00:16:48.920 that the mean girls of Twitter 0.94
00:16:50.620 will destroy you. 0.98
00:16:52.660 So you can just be really out there
00:16:55.000 with whatever you say, woke-wise,
00:16:58.320 and even the people who know better will just,
00:17:02.300 no, it's going to let that one pass.
00:17:05.920 Too dangerous, you know.
00:17:09.080 And so that's how you get a lot of the stuff that,
00:17:13.080 like you say, we just, we don't want to pretend.
00:17:16.000 No.
00:17:16.200 I mean, I don't want to pretend that, I mean,
00:17:20.260 women 1.00
00:17:21.980 and men
00:17:23.880 in sports
00:17:25.600 are anything
00:17:27.140 comparable. I mean, if
00:17:29.820 the worst
00:17:30.920 NBA team played the
00:17:33.840 best WNBA team,
00:17:36.080 the score would be a million
00:17:37.960 to zero.
00:17:39.940 That's no insult to women. It's just 1.00
00:17:42.020 the way it is. And to make me
00:17:44.140 pretend...
00:17:46.140 Why does that irritate you, Bill?
00:17:47.880 I don't like lying.
00:17:49.100 well see i just don't bullshit me you can i i have tons of friends on both sides even 0.98
00:17:55.400 far woke far trump whatever as long as you're sincere but don't fucking lie to me yeah and 0.97
00:18:03.780 and you know the other thing as well bill that i i feel it a lot is just fucking leave me alone 0.98
00:18:10.180 you know we and that i got that more than ever with covid where it just felt 0.66
00:18:15.260 that it was almost a reason for the government
00:18:19.440 to stick their little finger into your life
00:18:22.660 and also incentivize other people to do it as well.
00:18:25.660 Well, I think a lot of people in government
00:18:28.420 and the medical community,
00:18:30.780 they sincerely believe they're doing the right thing.
00:18:35.760 They're, you know, safetyism.
00:18:37.400 They see safety, which is the short-term good of lockdowns and masks and mandates and all that kind of stuff.
00:18:53.080 I mean, first of all, they may not be right about the efficacy of the vaccine, but as far as safety, they think they're doing the right thing.
00:19:01.600 But they're in the system.
00:19:04.120 You know, it's that kind of thing where do you really know?
00:19:07.680 You slowly just fall into the group think of, okay, this is how we handle the problem, lockdown, vaccine.
00:19:19.320 Vaccines, you know, are to me a tool that I'm very glad we have, but I should get to pick whether I want or not based on the pathogen.
00:19:31.020 and my situation and there could be something that comes along
00:19:36.980 where I would be the first online.
00:19:40.320 Vaccines generally work, you know.
00:19:44.360 Bill, I want to come back to this conversation about lying
00:19:47.240 because it's interesting to me.
00:19:48.720 I really respect your work.
00:19:50.520 One of the reasons is I've always been more interested in satire than comedy
00:19:54.100 and you, at your best, I think, are satirical
00:19:56.660 in that you are talking about political issues.
00:19:58.780 You're making fun of both sides very often.
00:20:01.020 And I think that really is the job of people like you, is to point out where the hypocrisies are, where the lack of truth is, etc.
00:20:11.460 But not many people are now doing that with comedy, it feels like.
00:20:15.560 Well, they do it on one side, but they pause when it comes down to saying something that's going to make their completely liberal audience disapprove.
00:20:27.700 You know, they take the path of least resistance when it comes to stuff on the left that is worthy of making fun of.
00:20:38.820 Because the audience doesn't want to hear that.
00:20:44.940 Or they really believe it.
00:20:46.600 I mean, but it's more by omission, you know.
00:20:50.800 I mean, they'll do Biden jokes about his age or something like that, which is fairly anodyne.
00:20:57.580 but you never really are in question about what the take,
00:21:04.400 you know, what the point of view is.
00:21:08.720 That's the point, the point of view.
00:21:12.140 Yeah.
00:21:12.480 It's so important, and it's so important that the point of view is not boring,
00:21:16.820 that the point of view is not the same as everybody else's point of view.
00:21:20.080 My friend calls it let me guess policy.
00:21:24.960 It's brilliant, isn't it?
00:21:26.240 Let me guess.
00:21:27.140 and it's always
00:21:28.580 and
00:21:29.420 I'm not
00:21:31.160 ever let me guess
00:21:32.540 that's so uninteresting
00:21:33.800 isn't it
00:21:34.100 and they just
00:21:34.560 won't
00:21:34.980 like I remember
00:21:35.960 there was this
00:21:36.620 about two years ago
00:21:39.860 shooter
00:21:41.580 some nut 0.99
00:21:42.300 mass shooting
00:21:43.420 in I think
00:21:44.780 Atlanta
00:21:45.560 and he
00:21:46.320 killed a 0.98
00:21:47.620 bunch of Asian people 0.99
00:21:49.260 because they ran
00:21:50.060 massage parlors
00:21:51.660 do you remember this case
00:21:52.940 yes
00:21:53.160 okay
00:21:54.020 okay
00:21:55.860 and I read the stories
00:21:59.460 and it was clear by the end of the week
00:22:00.920 and I said on the air
00:22:01.820 it's not what the media is saying
00:22:04.760 that he wasn't mad at Asians 0.99
00:22:06.520 he was mad at people who were jerking him off 1.00
00:22:09.320 because he was a Christian 0.99
00:22:11.100 everybody in his life said it
00:22:13.200 the FBI said it
00:22:14.560 and the other people
00:22:17.600 would not move off
00:22:19.680 this narrative
00:22:20.960 and that's the difference between truth and narrative
00:22:23.680 it's like the narrative
00:22:25.740 is, you know, it's part of this giant anti-Asian crime wave.
00:22:32.240 And I'm sure there are horrific crimes
00:22:35.900 that are, you know, committed against Asians
00:22:38.480 as they are against other peoples,
00:22:41.000 and we should stop them all.
00:22:42.820 But this was not one of them. 0.99
00:22:46.420 They just, you know, they just shoved this fucking thing 0.99
00:22:51.580 in a hole that doesn't fit a... 1.00
00:22:54.160 Get in there, get out of this shit, the fuck? 1.00
00:22:57.180 And it's like closing a suitcase and they get... 1.00
00:23:00.540 And I hate that shit. 1.00
00:23:02.760 I think we all do because what it puts us in, Bill, 1.00
00:23:06.440 is in a really dangerous position
00:23:08.660 where we stop believing what we've been told
00:23:11.980 in the news and newspapers.
00:23:14.440 And once that happens, you're in a...
00:23:18.160 Like I said, you're in a really dangerous situation
00:23:20.080 because people go, this is all fake, this is all fake.
00:23:22.160 so when the next pandemic comes along for example as it will do or there's some other type of
00:23:26.700 emergency you're just going to get whole swathes of people going I don't believe any of this
00:23:30.340 well the CDC has already lost a lot of credibility I mean they I think they all did when
00:23:36.500 you know people lived through it so they remember oh yeah I remember washing the mail for six months 0.99
00:23:44.940 for no fucking reason you know washing the mail really so again my big theme they don't fucking 0.98
00:23:55.200 know that much so don't like make pronouncements like you have a monopoly on the truth that's 0.98
00:24:00.120 it's so anti-science that people like follow this diet can be so anti-science
00:24:06.960 that's so true yeah that's so true and bill did you see this coming because i remember all
00:24:17.160 no no no he was there he was there in china in the lab just i did not see it coming no i don't
00:24:24.780 mean this i mean the culture i mean where we are now as a society no because but i do remember
00:24:30.360 your stand-up from way back when talking about how we now prioritize feelings over truth and
00:24:36.760 I mean, my first show was called Politically Incorrect.
00:24:40.300 That was 30 years ago.
00:24:42.080 I definitely recognized it as political correctness,
00:24:45.520 which I was asked a lot because I named the show that.
00:24:48.840 It was like, what does that mean to you?
00:24:50.920 You know, the elevation of sensitivity over truth,
00:24:53.940 I think, was one of my big answers.
00:24:57.340 And just the opposite of, you know, 1.00
00:25:00.000 when someone is political, it means they're full of shit, usually. 1.00
00:25:04.220 I was very political about it. 1.00
00:25:05.720 politically incorrect was let's just say what it is so i did see that it was a problem 30 years ago
00:25:12.380 yeah it just got worse i mean i tried to put a stake in its heart and obviously
00:25:18.520 especially with the internet but also the generations i mean we just keep
00:25:26.720 making each generation is more fragile yeah if you can believe it they said that about
00:25:32.460 my generation from the world war ii people like these boomer kids are so spoiled why they we don't 0.92
00:25:40.460 have we don't even beat them every night you know when i think of like how idyllic i think my
00:25:48.620 childhood was but also like so different than kids today and not coddled nearly as much no but you
00:25:55.640 know what i was thinking about political correctness 30 years ago it wasn't really the same
00:26:01.320 people doing it like my heroes growing up it was george carlin and bill hicks and these people
00:26:06.940 would and you were also talking about religion because it was the christian right right who
00:26:11.840 wanted to shut people like you down oh yeah they wanted you not to be able to joke about religion 0.84
00:26:16.660 no that's and and now it isn't them really leading the charge i know they exist i know they're out
00:26:23.080 i know they don't like you joking about religion but they're not the driving force behind political 0.96
00:26:27.820 correctness in 2023 would you know of course that's again that's my fucking defense when 0.96
00:26:35.320 people are like well you've changed no they changed like i could every issue i could do 0.97
00:26:43.600 that with we're like this is old school liberal and this is woke like i noticed we are have
00:26:50.100 completely given up on the idea that the thing to do if you're overweight is diet and exercise
00:26:57.040 which was like bedrock
00:26:59.680 I mean it was Michelle Obama
00:27:01.520 Michelle Obama
00:27:03.980 we loved her
00:27:06.180 for that
00:27:07.060 perfect message first lady 1.00
00:27:09.320 now that's like
00:27:11.280 I mean you never read in the New York
00:27:14.140 Times that
00:27:14.740 no no no
00:27:15.880 we don't know really why
00:27:18.800 they're kind of on that page
00:27:21.400 but we have Ozumbic
00:27:22.900 you know
00:27:24.420 And, you know, once again, it's a pharmaceutical solution.
00:27:28.660 I'm not saying that's a giant conspiracy.
00:27:31.040 I'm saying drug makers are not in the business of healing humanity.
00:27:35.000 They're in the business of selling drugs. 0.99
00:27:37.040 They do it by healing humanity a lot.
00:27:39.600 I mean, I'm glad we have pharmaceutical companies. 0.98
00:27:42.380 I mean, we need their shit sometimes, and they've done a lot of great things. 0.99
00:27:46.520 But they want to sell drugs. 1.00
00:27:48.480 Do you think, yeah, it's true.
00:27:50.960 If they have one that can make you lose weight, they'll sell it to you.
00:27:54.540 Are they sure about side effects or the real health for repercussion?
00:27:59.840 I don't think we're kind of like, eh.
00:28:02.280 I mean, they don't know why it works.
00:28:05.060 You know that?
00:28:05.780 No.
00:28:06.680 They have no idea why it works.
00:28:10.260 They know that it works, not why, not a clue.
00:28:14.000 So wouldn't that give you pause?
00:28:16.640 It would do, yeah.
00:28:17.380 Okay, so again, this is where liberalism was 10 years ago
00:28:21.680 and this is where it is now.
00:28:24.080 Bill, do you think sometimes the problem is
00:28:26.760 every time that we come to America, it's a...
00:28:31.600 That's the problem.
00:28:32.400 Yeah, that is a problem.
00:28:34.780 Every time he comes to America, it gets worse.
00:28:36.860 Right.
00:28:37.500 But it's a culture built around consumerism and ease,
00:28:41.940 making everything as easy as possible and comfort.
00:28:45.400 So is yours.
00:28:46.000 Yeah.
00:28:46.640 I'm not, well, have you ever experienced our customer service?
00:28:49.600 No, it's not about California.
00:28:51.220 Like ours is genius.
00:28:52.820 I mean.
00:28:54.320 But do you see what I mean?
00:28:56.980 About England?
00:28:57.760 No, about the US.
00:28:59.540 Everything is about making things as easy as possible.
00:29:02.760 And if you do that.
00:29:03.420 Yeah, but I think that's a lot of countries now.
00:29:05.940 Because, I mean, England became America. 0.78
00:29:08.240 Yeah.
00:29:08.420 I mean, I remember being in England the first time in the 80s,
00:29:14.040 and it was very different.
00:29:15.660 Yeah.
00:29:16.400 Very different.
00:29:17.300 How so?
00:29:18.060 Well, first of all, London was like all white. 1.00
00:29:20.360 Yeah, it was.
00:29:21.620 You know, so can we just celebrate that victory
00:29:24.700 that we made a place more diverse and not, you know?
00:29:29.320 You never get a pat on the back.
00:29:31.280 The people who like achieve, I feel like, in that area.
00:29:35.140 There's only like, there's more to do.
00:29:36.820 Of course there's more to do.
00:29:39.540 But can we just get a little, hey,
00:29:42.400 I think I read in Andrew Sullivan's column,
00:29:45.860 London went from like 36% to like 86% people of colour
00:29:55.660 or something like that.
00:29:56.600 No, maybe that's too hard.
00:29:57.820 It's a majority minority.
00:29:58.960 Like a 50-point swing.
00:30:02.340 50 points in two generations, three generations.
00:30:07.060 Okay, that's progress.
00:30:08.260 I'm not a bad person to clap for progress.
00:30:12.780 But that is an issue.
00:30:15.040 That is a real issue, Bill, because people never want to admit when things are going well.
00:30:22.460 And if you only start going, oh, everything's terrible, then you start convincing everybody else that everything's terrible when it's not.
00:30:29.080 I mean, you say people.
00:30:30.560 I feel like this is something that divides the two parties.
00:30:33.740 I feel like Republicans are too, like, peppy about America and very sentimental about America and think things are better, you know, like racially.
00:30:47.180 I think they're in denial about racism, which is still a thing.
00:30:53.700 And the left is, like, over-exaggerating it.
00:30:57.880 You know, they're so down on America.
00:31:00.260 and it's by the way something immigrants don't like about the left i i hate that about them 0.83
00:31:06.640 right i know i know you do that you people who work so hard to get here and then all you do is
00:31:13.200 and also it's just again factually wrong because we we we can know what's going on in other
00:31:22.580 countries and again these people who do not know things like this but it does not in the least
00:31:28.420 deter them from tweeting and talking
00:31:30.520 and saying things and
00:31:31.960 I mean I've seen these funny videos where they
00:31:34.360 you know men on the street with
00:31:36.040 20 year old kids and like
00:31:37.860 I'd like to live anywhere but here
00:31:39.760 really what do you know about
00:31:42.140 Somalia
00:31:42.660 what do you know about
00:31:45.460 Karachi, Pakistan
00:31:47.340 would that
00:31:48.560 you know
00:31:49.560 I mean I see this 0.99
00:31:52.660 porn star 0.99
00:31:53.580 is
00:31:55.340 was being very pro-Palestine.
00:31:58.900 Yeah. 0.99
00:32:00.280 And try practicing porn in Gaza 0.99
00:32:03.860 would be my advice. 0.98
00:32:06.500 How did you say Queers for Palestine?
00:32:08.060 Yeah.
00:32:09.360 Yeah.
00:32:10.380 Brilliant.
00:32:11.040 Was that on a T-shirt?
00:32:12.100 It was a flag.
00:32:13.320 There was a bunch of people holding up a flag
00:32:15.200 saying Queers for Palestine.
00:32:16.180 I think I've seen that on a T-shirt.
00:32:19.320 Yeah.
00:32:19.540 And you try walking down the street with that.
00:32:25.340 And I could name a lot of places in the world.
00:32:28.820 Do you think we're victims of our own success in the West?
00:32:31.380 Yes.
00:32:31.700 We're so comfortable, so wealthy.
00:32:33.800 That's what it is.
00:32:34.200 So genuine.
00:32:35.240 I mean, Francis makes his point always.
00:32:36.680 Absolutely.
00:32:36.820 It's a great point.
00:32:37.920 The biggest privilege any of us enjoys, first world privilege.
00:32:40.980 That's the privilege.
00:32:42.000 Yeah, I say very similar things about the people who just go on and on about privilege
00:32:48.640 don't realize that they're always being propped up
00:32:52.620 by the privilege of being impractical,
00:32:57.260 loose thinking, and you're just like head in the clouds,
00:33:02.360 which is a great privilege to be.
00:33:04.020 Right.
00:33:04.680 But that's ironic.
00:33:07.200 It is.
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00:34:38.080 Are you hopeful for America, Bill?
00:34:40.040 Well, I ain't going anywhere, so yeah. 0.83
00:34:44.880 I mean, I am amazed a little bit that we take, man, this country, we take a lickin' and we keep on fuckin' tickin'. 0.89
00:34:59.940 Yeah. 0.95
00:35:01.200 Really.
00:35:02.180 We keep on tickin'.
00:35:04.160 I mean, I thought the pandemic with that kind of spending and keeping people home would take us down.
00:35:11.840 No.
00:35:12.760 Trump.
00:35:13.240 I can't believe we survived Trump
00:35:15.960 Are you guys Trumpers?
00:35:18.360 No
00:35:18.460 However, I will ask you this
00:35:20.640 Because it's interesting to me
00:35:22.820 I did not like him 0.94
00:35:24.660 His personality is obnoxious
00:35:27.820 I didn't like him
00:35:29.480 Among other things
00:35:30.480 This is what I want to ask you
00:35:32.160 Because I don't know enough about American politics
00:35:35.900 To say whether his policies were good
00:35:37.780 Really?
00:35:38.380 I don't, honestly
00:35:39.140 Why are you suddenly pleading ignorance on this?
00:35:42.580 This is what you do.
00:35:43.960 No, hold on.
00:35:45.200 Well, let's break it down, right?
00:35:46.680 So was his policy on the border better or worse than Joe Biden?
00:35:51.840 Looks like it's the same now.
00:35:53.680 Biden's building the wall.
00:35:54.820 At least he was trying, right?
00:35:56.520 I mean, Biden's just letting people in like crazy.
00:35:59.520 Yeah, I mean, I never thought a wall was a terribly practical solution
00:36:05.520 because people have thought of it before.
00:36:07.500 And there's just a lot of, like, things you...
00:36:10.200 Obviously, he couldn't get through.
00:36:12.140 Obviously, he couldn't get it through.
00:36:14.000 So that's how hard it is.
00:36:15.300 You know, it's private land.
00:36:16.920 You just can't build an unporous border.
00:36:21.200 Look, if the Republicans were serious about wanting to stop immigration,
00:36:24.580 what they would do is they would crack down on the hiring.
00:36:27.840 But they don't want to because they want the cheap labor.
00:36:30.580 So they want to pretend that they are stopping people from coming in
00:36:35.100 and they don't like people coming in.
00:36:37.060 But they like it.
00:36:38.800 Drives down wages.
00:36:40.120 And they could do that.
00:36:41.640 you could you could crack down on that end of it okay but that doesn't happen nobody's going
00:36:48.240 through the kitchen and yelling immigration from my perspective it doesn't seem like
00:36:53.840 biden is better than trump on that when i look at the international situation i mean the the
00:37:00.080 american respect for america is breaking down around the world that's why you see all these
00:37:03.680 conflicts they say that every year well we see more conflicts every year are you kidding we're 0.99
00:37:08.620 fucking kicking ass we came back better from the pandemic economically than any other big boy 0.90
00:37:14.920 country i don't know how we do it but but if you look at like the stock market from like 1990 to 0.99
00:37:23.100 now like if you had your money in american stocks like three four times better than anywhere else
00:37:29.380 i'm talking about no no but it matters of course it matters you know no you're right i mean the
00:37:33.780 dollar is nobody's really even pretending that they could like replace the dollar or would want
00:37:39.320 to i mean with our kind of debt i mean at some point is some of this going to come crashing down
00:37:45.200 it absolutely could but i don't know like we just keep on ticking i just i i i i'm i'm surprised that 0.74
00:37:55.260 with all the shit going on but america's a great country but what i'm trying to get out 0.94
00:38:01.320 it is it is a great country no i'm not mr rah rah i'm just saying these are the facts the biggest 0.99
00:38:07.640 like five biggest tech companies yeah in the world i think are all american i mean yeah now
00:38:13.060 china has um um you know some things that we don't but our military is still like there's nobody even
00:38:19.720 close i'm i couldn't agree with you more i'm just saying so i'm team america i am no this isn't
00:38:26.040 about bragging about america this is just factually like where we are let's not be let's not have
00:38:31.000 the wrong idea in our head about where our exact place in the world is um we're we're
00:38:37.360 we're taking on water but for some reason we're not sinking i'm just trying to get to the question
00:38:43.640 which is you said something which is very interesting to me you're a smart guy you're
00:38:47.160 a nuanced thinker but you said we survived trump and that surprised totally what is it are you 1.00
00:38:52.600 kidding so so give people because he's crazy first of all he's stupid and he's crazy i always 1.00
00:38:58.900 Isn't he stupid, Bill? 1.00
00:39:00.280 He can't be stupid. 1.00
00:39:01.200 He thought Frederick Douglass was alive. 1.00
00:39:03.240 Are you kidding? 1.00
00:39:04.180 Yes, he's stupid. 1.00
00:39:05.720 He has a Hitlerian ability to move crowds. 1.00
00:39:11.760 Okay, yeah.
00:39:12.700 Often with the same sort of thoughts about you're cheated 0.99
00:39:16.120 and the soil and all this shit. 0.98
00:39:21.060 Obviously, he never went where Hitler went. 0.98
00:39:23.720 I'm not comparing him with Hitler in that way,
00:39:25.740 but just as an insane, but that also made him genius politician 0.99
00:39:31.440 who can move people and just owns fucking people, just like owns them. 0.99
00:39:37.660 And that's his talent. 1.00
00:39:39.740 But is he stupid? Yes. 1.00
00:39:41.620 And he's fucking crazy. 1.00
00:39:43.240 But on those two things in Congress that you've just said, 1.00
00:39:46.280 that he's a politician of genius and he's stupid. 1.00
00:39:49.480 Politician. 1.00
00:39:50.200 Yeah, of genius.
00:39:52.900 Yes.
00:39:53.460 yes yeah but the only genius he is politically he's a genius yeah political because he doesn't
00:40:00.280 even think about it it just comes out of his id and that works for people they even though he's 0.99
00:40:06.140 the most full of shit guy he also is like the most honest like when he says shithole countries 0.99
00:40:14.720 like lots of immigrants are like yeah that's exactly where i came from why do you think i 1.00
00:40:20.820 fucking walked a thousand miles to get here because i was in a shithole and this guy doesn't 0.96
00:40:27.200 and because he almost yeah he can't help himself he he reveals himself 0.99
00:40:34.780 that's it's it's insanity photographs what can i tell you so he's he's mesmerizing
00:40:44.060 to the media too
00:40:46.680 so he gets all that coverage
00:40:49.960 but yes
00:40:51.600 am I surprised we survived
00:40:53.780 and we really
00:40:55.720 haven't yet because he still hasn't
00:40:57.680 conceded that election
00:40:58.680 just the idea of a guy who doesn't
00:41:01.580 concede elections
00:41:02.540 you guys should like stop worrying
00:41:05.520 about all these other little
00:41:06.900 that's it, that's the ball game
00:41:09.040 if the guy doesn't concede elections
00:41:11.900 did Hillary concede elections? 1.00
00:41:13.560 Of course Hillary could say that. 1.00
00:41:15.040 She said he's an illegitimate president.
00:41:17.100 When did she say that?
00:41:17.960 She said that in 2016.
00:41:19.560 She said he knows he's an illegitimate president.
00:41:22.280 I believe he knows he's an illegitimate president.
00:41:25.520 He knows.
00:41:26.400 He knows that there were a bunch of different reasons why the election turned out the way it did.
00:41:34.020 And I take responsibility for those parts of it that I should.
00:41:37.260 And so I know that he knows that this wasn't on the level.
00:41:41.580 I don't know that we'll ever know everything that happened, but clearly we know a lot and are learning more every day.
00:41:47.280 And history will probably sort it all out.
00:41:49.440 So, of course, he's obsessed with me.
00:41:51.160 And I believe that it's a guilty conscience in so much as he has a conscience.
00:41:57.200 After the election.
00:41:58.180 Yeah.
00:41:59.320 Russia collusion.
00:42:00.220 What was that, if not denying the election?
00:42:02.440 They made up a story, which was a hoax.
00:42:04.560 Well, it wasn't a hoax.
00:42:05.560 Yeah, it was.
00:42:06.820 It wasn't true.
00:42:08.280 What wasn't true?
00:42:09.140 What part of it?
00:42:09.480 The Russia collusion.
00:42:10.280 There was collusion with Russia.
00:42:12.560 There was absolute collusion with Russia.
00:42:14.560 Is that why he won the election, do you think?
00:42:16.280 Partly.
00:42:17.520 It was a very close election.
00:42:19.000 Yeah, you don't think Russia could sway, like, what, 77,000 votes in three states?
00:42:24.400 Of course they could.
00:42:25.960 And they did.
00:42:27.140 Partly through social media, partly through their propaganda there and what they were trying to do there, which was very successful.
00:42:33.340 Cost about $100,000.
00:42:34.480 And then, I mean, Trump's campaign manager was trading campaign data with a GRE, a GRU.
00:42:44.340 I think what Trump was saying is completely wrong.
00:42:46.880 I agree.
00:42:47.520 But the Democrats also denied the election in 2016.
00:42:52.780 They did.
00:42:54.600 Okay.
00:42:55.200 I mean, maybe one time Hillary said something like that. 0.91
00:43:00.000 You ask her today, this is not an issue for the Democrats.
00:43:03.440 You're making a ridiculously false... 0.57
00:43:06.820 You think? 0.92
00:43:08.420 Comparison.
00:43:09.040 Of course.
00:43:10.580 Democrats are not the ones who deny elections. 1.00
00:43:12.860 Hillary got up there in her fucking purple suit and said, 1.00
00:43:16.100 we lost. 1.00
00:43:17.860 Al Gore did it. 1.00
00:43:18.860 Took one for the fucking team in 2000. 1.00
00:43:21.820 Agreed. 1.00
00:43:22.400 It's just a ridiculous false comparison. 0.96
00:43:26.960 False comparison. 0.97
00:43:28.540 Yeah.
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00:44:24.840 princess of wells theater get tickets at mirvish.com okay yeah so looking at looking at trump and let's
00:44:34.520 look at on a global scale like we were talking about before if you look at work with biden when
00:44:39.680 he's come to power there has been the russian invasion of ukraine there's been the disastrous
00:44:44.600 withdrawal from afghanistan and you've also as well got bill now this situation flaring up and
00:44:50.940 some people would say the argument that they put forward is this is all happening because Biden is
00:44:56.900 a weak leader. People have seen that and are using that opportunity to then pursue their own ends.
00:45:03.180 Well, you know, whenever I hear something like the disastrous withdrawal from Afghanistan,
00:45:09.120 it's just like, oh, right wing talking point. Not that it's not true. It is true, but it's like,
00:45:15.660 really give a shit. I mean, should they have had a little better? Absolutely. 0.99
00:45:20.940 I'm not sure America ever handles anything well. 0.99
00:45:23.680 We're just a fuck-up country now in a lot of ways. 0.71
00:45:26.220 I don't know if any president under any conditions, 0.99
00:45:30.220 but this one finally said, let's get the fuck out of here. 0.97
00:45:33.580 This is a crazy thing to be here forever. 0.98
00:45:35.820 We're here 20 years. We've just got to go.
00:45:37.660 I mean, it's probably going to be shitty no matter how we do it.
00:45:41.080 Now, if Mitt Romney was president, would it have gone better? 0.81
00:45:47.560 Yeah, but it would.
00:45:48.420 because Mitt Romney was like much more of a detail you know he tried to cast himself as a
00:45:54.420 conservative real hard right guy when he ran he was a manager of detail he was a Mormon couldn't 0.99
00:46:02.680 be a nicer guy could he yeah he might have been the guy who like stayed up looking over the plans
00:46:10.060 and the data at four in the morning you know Clinton was that guy you know people who really
00:46:14.800 like government and want to make it work
00:46:16.660 well? Biden's not that
00:46:18.720 guy. He didn't do
00:46:20.840 that with Afghanistan.
00:46:22.560 But it's like,
00:46:24.460 ugh, you know, just so reflexive.
00:46:27.420 Here's something we can hate about
00:46:28.620 this guy who we want to talk bad about.
00:46:31.080 I'm not on that page.
00:46:32.740 That's a little too, like,
00:46:34.940 just one-sided for
00:46:36.760 me.
00:46:37.600 You know, do I love everything with Joe
00:46:40.720 Biden? Absolutely not.
00:46:42.580 Last week I called for him to
00:46:44.500 not run again ruth bader biden i would think he's too old i think the country does and that's all
00:46:52.740 that matters and he will not win he'll look terrible in the debates and trump will win
00:46:59.280 and that will be a disaster and there should be no discussion after he does not concede elections
00:47:05.240 not i mean yes stacy abrams also said something about i mean this is like yes you can always make
00:47:12.660 some case on the other side it has nothing to do with a guy who was president never
00:47:19.460 advertised he was never going to concede an election didn't still doesn't we'll do it again
00:47:27.560 that's nothing is nothing is on that level if you if that is where you are i don't care what 0.99
00:47:35.400 His fucking policy on Turkmenistan is. 0.99
00:47:40.060 I hear. 1.00
00:47:41.000 You're disqualified. 0.99
00:47:42.220 Democracy relies on losers' consent. 0.98
00:47:44.280 Correct.
00:47:45.060 It's what we have over the other countries.
00:47:47.520 So many other countries in the world can't get that one thing right.
00:47:51.500 Like, you know, the old Soviet days used to always see, like, 0.93
00:47:57.400 they would check, like, who was standing closest to the coffin.
00:48:01.320 You know, like, and that was usually the guy who knocked off the guy before him
00:48:05.280 or who was going to be next.
00:48:07.340 And, you know, it wasn't done through a system.
00:48:12.600 It was like, who's just going to like, it was Survivor.
00:48:17.600 You know, and then it was, oh, Brezhnev, okay.
00:48:20.520 And then he got to be, and that's not the way we did it.
00:48:24.300 And this guy wants to bring that to here.
00:48:27.700 Yeah, that doesn't work.
00:48:28.800 Do you think one of the distinctions as well
00:48:30.640 is what happened on January the 6th, right?
00:48:33.660 Because whatever the Democrats may have said, that never happened.
00:48:37.960 It was just a different level, you know, physical, people physically going into the Capitol.
00:48:43.400 And I mean, it's not what Trump said on that day.
00:48:45.760 It wasn't like he got up there and said, go and take over the Capitol.
00:48:50.060 Kind of, but not totally.
00:48:52.600 It was that up until that moment, he still hadn't conceded.
00:48:56.160 Yeah.
00:48:56.620 It was the whole, it's not one moment.
00:48:58.500 It was like his whole view that he was telling his people that this, and, you know, when you do this against what Republican vote counters were telling him, I mean, that's bending over backwards.
00:49:14.540 even the Republicans told him
00:49:17.280 his own people
00:49:18.240 and the decent people who are
00:49:21.300 Republicans in many states
00:49:22.960 all these states were lawsuits
00:49:25.120 were you know
00:49:26.080 this was laughed out of court like 60 times
00:49:29.260 or something and they still
00:49:31.180 tried to peddle that boat
00:49:32.300 that is just unacceptable
00:49:34.080 don't come to me with like
00:49:36.560 and Trump did this
00:49:38.180 no
00:49:40.720 that's fair enough Bill
00:49:43.460 And do you think in 2024, do you think he's going to win the nomination?
00:49:47.880 Do you think he's going to go the whole way?
00:49:50.040 There's no doubt he'll be the nominee.
00:49:52.900 And he very well could win.
00:49:54.900 And then we would be, I believe, governed by him under house arrest at Mar-a-Lago.
00:50:02.860 That's probably where he will be.
00:50:05.060 And he will run the country from Mar-a-Lago.
00:50:08.640 They will never put him in jail, but he will be convicted, at least in one of these trials.
00:50:13.460 And then he will be, I mean, you know,
00:50:17.260 it'll be like in Goodfellas where they smuggle in a salami. 0.73
00:50:23.200 He's got wine.
00:50:23.920 Cooking the tomato tomatoes.
00:50:25.160 No, they're wearing track suits.
00:50:26.800 I mean, this is not going to be some Jeffrey Epstein jail cell.
00:50:30.380 No, he'll probably be a house arrest at Mar-a-Lago.
00:50:32.320 That is where the, I mean, that's the final,
00:50:35.720 and then I, AI, take over in that work.
00:50:38.920 I honestly, with AI, I don't think we'll make it through the decade.
00:50:42.760 You've been reading about that?
00:50:44.660 I got Tristan Harris on Real Time Friday,
00:50:47.580 and we're going to talk about it,
00:50:49.300 and I have been reading about it,
00:50:50.660 and it's super frightening.
00:50:52.660 But, yeah, I've got to go back to my day job.
00:50:55.440 Bill, what a pleasure.
00:50:57.160 It's been great.
00:50:57.980 Such a pleasure.
00:50:58.860 I appreciate you guys coming in.
00:51:01.160 I love what you do.
00:51:03.560 I feel like this stern talking to tonight
00:51:08.620 was well in order.
00:51:09.640 I hope to see it reflected in your show in the future
00:51:13.460 Alright, best of luck
00:51:14.600 Thanks Bill