00:02:14.720But I'm somebody who has personal experience with domestic abuse, family abuse, and mental illness that affected my family's life.
00:02:24.600And I've begun to believe that the kinds of distorted dynamics, lack of emotional control, narcissistic exploitation that are common to abusive family backgrounds has been spilling out and infecting our public culture to such a degree that it alarmed me enough that that that is the focus of the show that I'm on or that I host rather.
00:02:48.720Well, it's fascinating because I've always said from the moment that we saw some of these
00:02:53.340ideologies start to play themselves out, someone who's done a lot of personal development stuff
00:02:58.400and learned psychology at university and all that sort of thing, it was kind of obvious
00:03:02.380to me that, excuse me, a lot of the stuff seems to be people projecting their own personal
00:03:15.560Is that the kind of thing that you talk about?
00:03:18.280Yeah, what we talk about, what I focus on are what are called cluster B personality disorders and the tactics and abuse dynamics that attend to those.
00:03:33.280So, yeah, it involves a lot of things like projection of your own trauma onto the world, victim signaling in order to get virtue points.
00:03:40.860I mean, we've all talked about all of this stuff, and it's interesting to me because I think that when you talk about projection, for example, projection is something that all humans do, but it's something that has become, I guess, sort of excessively popular in the Internet age and in the past five to ten years.
00:04:08.040And it's also something that, interestingly, people have said when they watch a show like
00:04:15.680the one I do, where I talk about my personal background in my family with people with
00:04:20.940personality disorders, and I liken them to, I mean, what you can call it woke if you want,
00:04:26.720you can call it the successor ideology, whatever term it is that you're comfortable with.
00:04:31.880This cultural moment that we're living in right now seems to me to be characterized
00:04:36.320by an excess of clinical levels of narcissism, dysfunctional levels of narcissism, projection
00:04:43.300of internal rage onto other people. So yes, it is that sort of thing. And I think it might be helpful
00:04:51.800to tell people exactly what cluster B personality disorders are and why talk about them.
00:05:00.160So when we're talking about mental illness, most people, when you use the term mental illness, most people think of things like severe depression, anxiety, maybe obsessive compulsive disorder, maybe something like schizophrenia where a person is actually literally disconnected from reality.
00:05:18.760personality disorders, if you want to call them a mental illness, are a somewhat different kind
00:05:24.780of mental illness. And I'm speaking in rough generalities. There is overlap here. But in
00:05:31.040general, you can see a person who might suffer from intermittent depression or intermittent
00:05:36.340anxiety. And you can think of it as kind of a dark cloud that comes in and may make a couple
00:05:42.100of weeks or a month in that person's life really tough and might make them hard company to be
00:05:46.220around, but it can be treated and it comes and goes. Personality disorders are not like that.
00:05:51.640They're basically what they say on the tin. They are disorders of personality or character,
00:05:57.560if you will. They're ingrained long-term dysfunctional ways of thinking about yourself
00:06:03.440and thinking about and relating to other people. They don't go away. They're consistent across
00:06:10.060various parts of your life. They may not be exactly the same in each situation, but we're
00:06:15.300talking about fundamental character issues that affect how a person relates to other people.
00:06:22.920And they're unfortunately really resistant to treatment. So what are the cluster Bs?
00:06:29.240They are borderline personality disorder, narcissistic personality disorder,
00:06:35.300histrionic personality disorder, and antisocial personality disorder, which is a synonym for
00:06:41.340sociopathy or psychopathy. These are called the dramatic and erratic personality disorders.
00:06:49.020So the example that I would give, people want to understand how I conceive of this and where
00:06:53.820I came from. I am estranged from my mother. My best guess for my mother is that she has
00:07:05.060borderline and narcissistic personality disorders. And the quick way that I give people an insight
00:07:10.360into this. Although I'm in an age now where I'm in middle age and I know a lot of people aren't
00:07:17.000going to get my references. So if you don't get these movies, you'll, you know, I'll have to find
00:07:20.600something. We'll be fine. We're middle aged as well. And our audience is even older. Don't worry
00:07:24.160about that. I'm still young. Fuck both of you. I know. I'm 75 years young.
00:07:36.080If you want to know what kind of childhood I had, if you want to know what kind of person
00:07:40.020my mother was. This sounds a little flip and it is a little funny and it's okay to laugh at it,
00:07:44.840but I mean it actually literally. My mother was a cross between a trailer park version of Joan
00:07:49.960Crawford in Mommy Dearest and the mother in the horror movie Carrie. That is the kind of
00:07:54.900personality style that my mother has. That was what our childhood was like growing up. Absolute
00:08:02.900emotional instability. A parent who turned her children into her caregivers, doing work around
00:08:10.640the house, being an emotional confidant for her children, telling them secrets, romantic secrets
00:08:17.300even that they never should have learned. A series of relationships with men who were physically
00:08:24.460violent and abusive to her children. My story is not unique. There are a lot of people, sadly,
00:08:29.880who come from backgrounds like this, but there is a commonality. This isn't just, well, some people
00:08:34.600fall into these terrible situations. What's going on here is serious and severe personality
00:08:42.940disorders, emotional dysregulation, exploitative behavior, even towards your own children.
00:08:49.560This kind of stuff, well, the way I say it is domestic abuse has gone public. It's gone feral.
00:08:56.840The sorts of things that I saw in my home growing up that I did not understand are now happening in the wider world.
00:09:03.340And I see them. I see them excessively on what I have been calling the woke left.
00:09:10.060But unfortunately, it has infected, at least in the United States, the mainstream left.
00:09:15.900The hold on a second there. I'm loving what you're saying. I'm completely on board.
00:09:20.440Can you give me some concrete examples of that, please?
00:09:22.800yes so um virtue signaling we hear that term a lot everybody today is a victim if you want to
00:09:32.680get attention if you want to get a story written about you if you want if you want your truth your
00:09:37.580tweet to go viral you have to claim victimhood somebody said something to you that was racist
00:09:44.620somebody said something that was transphobic somebody did not respect your pronouns the level
00:09:49.980of offense that is given to these things is so excessive. And it seems like culturally,
00:09:56.440we've been trained to just respond to that. Oh, you know, that's very, very sad. But what do we
00:10:02.080see? Perfect example from US media this week, New York Times reporter Taylor Lorenz, who is somebody
00:10:10.060who's written a lot of work for the New York Times, that people I think rightly have said,
00:10:16.220you're trying to get people canceled. You're trying to ruin their reputations. They're not
00:10:19.720living up to woke standards. And yet a journalist like this will be interviewed by MSNBC and say
00:10:26.120that the criticism that she got for this gave her post-traumatic stress disorder. So it's a
00:10:33.100reversal. Reversals of victim and offender. And we see this a lot. I think you guys see that a lot.
00:10:40.100You've had guests on your show who've talked about that dynamic.
00:10:42.780no yes we have indeed the thing that worries me josh is the fact that people can monetize
00:10:52.160this behavior and once you can monetize it it's the ultimate incentive yeah well you can monetize
00:11:00.260it right you can build a personal brand out of being a victim and lots of people have done it
00:11:04.600i mean you know i think there was an abortive attempt with the oscars jada pinkett smith i
00:11:10.540think wanted to be the world's biggest victim for having a disability called alopecia so
00:11:17.440careful now i'm losing my hair as well josh i'm gonna have to fly over there and slap you
00:11:24.640isn't that just how it is though men just lose their hair and go bald but when famous women
00:11:31.140lose their hair and go bald they don't just go bald they have a disability called alopecia it's
00:11:36.500an illness. That's part of it. I think we see these double standards here too. Yes, Francis,
00:11:43.880you can monetize it, but I think being a victim pays in currency other than cash too. I think it
00:11:53.000pays in what you can call narcissistic supply. And that's the term that people use adapted from
00:12:00.220talk about drug culture, right? You're getting that feeling of praise. You're getting that high
00:12:05.040from the attention and it gives you status it gives you social status particularly on the left
00:12:11.120the more of a victim you are the higher you are in in sort of the symbolic hierarchy
00:12:16.300uh so i think it's monetizable but i think it's also monetizable if you will uh in a social way
00:12:23.860and and honestly i think for a lot of people that social attention may be even more attractive than
00:12:30.200the money and it's particularly when you think about narcissism now we were now we're stand-up
00:12:35.820comedians and we were involved in an industry stuffed to the brim with narcissists and what
00:12:42.500was really fascinating josh is a moment this you know this culture this way of thinking this
00:12:49.380ideology seeked in you started to see more and more people describe themselves as gender non-binary
00:12:55.660pronouns in bio all of these different things fat activists now i never that like when i grew up
00:13:03.960there was no such thing but people were legitimately calling themselves fat activists
00:13:08.400anti-racist it just seems as like this kind of toxic relationship between the ideology
00:13:16.100and the narcissism and let's be fair we've all got narcissism latent within us
00:13:20.980so it's also kind of it's corrosive as well because it's encouraging us to behave this way
00:13:26.760absolutely narcissism is socially rewarded now there's always been it's always been the case
00:13:33.400take take an industry like hollywood hollywood is full of broken people this is where children
00:13:38.380from broken homes uh traumatizing homes inadequate neglectful backgrounds this is where they go
00:13:44.180i'm not saying they do it consciously but this happens to a lot of creative people you know
00:13:49.160They're trying to find a way through art, through self-expression, maybe to make themselves whole again or to get some satisfaction out of that work that feels more meaningful.
00:13:57.720But unfortunately, when you're in a place like Hollywood, the more outrageously you behave, the more diva-like you behave, the more attention you get.
00:14:06.720And I don't think Hollywood is a place that you go to in order to get mentally better.
00:14:12.040you know um there was a line there was a really great series on fx a few years ago that looked at
00:14:20.740um the last years of the famous actresses joan crawford and betty davis's life and there was a
00:14:26.240scene in there where joan crawford was in the hospital you know huge narcissist and the
00:14:32.920publicist says to her you know the thing about hollywood i don't know if it creates narcissists
00:14:38.740or attracts people like you and and that's the question i i think it's i think it's both uh but
00:14:45.580it's definitely incentivized but but and it's a great point but the problem is instead of having
00:14:52.060as in john crawford's times in the 50s and the 60s you had an industry which created narcissists
00:14:58.640we now have these platforms which is turning the whole society our whole society into into one big
00:15:05.360narcissist. Yeah, well, yeah, one big narcissist or one big borderline, as I would say. You know,
00:15:15.660I was looking at something this morning I thought you guys would be interested in because people
00:15:19.880ask this a lot. Well, how many people actually have a full on personality disorder? Right. And
00:15:25.620you said, Francis, and you're right, we all have some narcissism in us. Here's the thing about
00:15:29.680these traits that we talk about, even if we talk about them in personality disorders or in
00:15:34.780non-personality disordered people. Almost all of these traits are human traits. They're not
00:15:40.880personality disordered people traits. We all have a degree of narcissism. Some of it we need.
00:15:47.220Some of it is healthy. We're talking about excess here. We all have a degree of self-regard
00:15:51.680or ability or inability to regulate our emotions. This is normal. But the people that we could look
00:15:59.060at and say, you have a real pathological level problem, have these so consistently and so
00:16:05.880extremely, even though many people don't recognize it immediately, there are different kinds of being
00:16:11.400narcissistic. There are kinds that are very easy to see, and there are types that are more covert.
00:16:18.440But how many people have them? If you look at the literature, if you go to the psych literature,
00:16:23.440and you look at the average estimates that come from the professional organizations,
00:16:26.840you'll get something between one to three percent they believe in the general population have a
00:16:33.320cluster B personality disorder. I don't believe this for a moment. I suspect all along, even
00:16:39.280before our modern era, that was probably an underestimate. My guess, and it's just a guess,
00:16:46.480it's from experience. I'm a decently well-read layman, but again, not a credentialed professional.
00:16:51.340I would guess that around 10% of our population right now would fit the full diagnostic criteria for a full disorder and that there are many more of us who have an extra helping of these traits or these traits are being encouraged.
00:17:07.060One thing I looked at, and I talked about this on the show earlier this year, back in 2013, there was a really interesting article from a couple of clinicians and college professors who were noticing an explosion of narcissism and emotional instability and public temper tantrums among their students.
00:17:28.900And they said, why does it look to us like every other person who's coming by has borderline personality disorder or histrionic personality disorder?
00:17:38.380So they decided to do a survey and they looked at 351 students in the survey and they expected to find the one to three percent of them would meet these criteria.
00:17:49.880Here's what they actually found. For histrionic, you know, excessive, over-the-top, melodramatic, histrionic personality disorder, 30% of the students surveyed met the criteria. For narcissistic personality disorder, 21% of the students they surveyed fit that category.
00:18:07.440that is completely terrifying well let me ask you something josh because how much of this is
00:18:17.360we now have a method for all those people to express themselves as francis says in the past
00:18:23.640if you were someone like this you'd go into hollywood or into stand-up or whatever
00:18:28.740and now you don't need to do that you've got a phone and you can just do it or there's the other
00:18:34.280side of it, which is how much is social media incentivizing, rewarding, and therefore generating
00:18:40.900this sort of behavior in all of us when it's really not very healthy for any person to be
00:18:47.660using it? Oh, big time. I couldn't quantify it, but clearly social media is one of the
00:18:54.800primary ingredients that has made this possible. I don't think it would be possible to this degree
00:19:01.560if we did not have easy access to brand me on Facebook or Twitter or Instagram.
00:19:09.700And the artificial way that social media has us communicate, it strips context.
00:19:16.180Because of the medium itself, it strips out tone of voice.
00:19:19.060Often if you're just typing, you're not sitting in a room where you're reading people back
00:19:23.800and forth and getting their body language in person.
00:19:26.260it is set up in such a way that it thrives on big emotions, big emotions in me, big emotions in you.
00:19:35.100We're all trying to provoke emotional reactions. And even the nicest people, even the most
00:19:40.500sort of butter-wouldn't-melt-in-your-mouth people who never lose their temper,
00:19:45.680bad behavior is encouraged and almost pushed by these media. And it can make good people
00:19:50.700act like bad people it can it can make people who are having a bad day have several bad days in a
00:19:56.320row but it definitely it's kind of like lifeblood for the people who are the hardcore committed
00:20:02.500narcissistic people i mean there's no better way for them to get supplies so yeah i think that has
00:20:07.100a huge huge amount to do with it hey constantin do you want better mental health i'm from russia
00:20:15.180we don't have mental health so how do you deal with mental health you drink vodka then go out
00:20:20.620and wrestle bear. If you live, you feel better. If you die, you're not real man.
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00:38:34.320The worrying thing, Josh, for us is we've touched on cults, is how deeply attractive cults are from the outside,
00:38:42.700particularly in a world that we live in that is becoming more and more atomized.
00:38:46.600Families are breaking up. They're smaller.
00:38:48.940We have that deep need to belong, to be part of a tribe.
00:38:53.160And so doesn't that make us more susceptible to cults?
00:38:57.080Sure. I mean, and what is a cult other than, you know, we like to, I mean, given my age, when I think of cults, I think of things like the Moonies and the Hare Krishnas, right?
00:39:09.600Nobody, you know, younger millennials and younger were probably like, I have no idea what that is. But we have this, we've defined cults as a small religious type group that has one really weird and zany charismatic leader. I think we need to update our definition of cults. I don't think we need a charismatic leader anymore.
00:39:33.260I think the leadership is distributed in the social media age. I think all the elements of
00:39:39.380cult thinking, which are also cluster B slash authoritarian slash abusive parent thinking,
00:39:46.540all of those things are present. We don't need to have one single charismatic leader.
00:39:52.980But yes, when people are scared, they want to cleave to a tribe. It happens to me. I used to
00:39:59.160be a liberal, a leftist. I'm not anymore. But I won't say I'm a conservative. Because there are
00:40:07.420emotional things that attach to these words and expectations that come along with them.
00:40:14.120And I know it's clunkier, but I wish people would say to each other, okay, I'm not going to ask you
00:40:17.860if you're a liberal or conservative. I'm going to ask you what you think about this particular issue
00:40:22.280and this particular issue and this particular issue. Because I have views that some people
00:40:27.620would consider too left-leaning for their tastes uh and i have a lot of views these days that are
00:40:32.760far too right-leaning um for for the people that i used to hang around with um and like like many
00:40:39.740people um when i changed my mind politically over the past five years i lost nearly all of my friends
00:40:46.240nearly all of my leftist friends and and i i don't think we talk about this enough
00:40:51.860because i went through the same thing i lost a lot of friends i know you did
00:40:55.060and you've still got me yeah yeah he said that in the most sinister manner possible
00:41:02.800but i don't think we talk enough about how deeply distressing that is because
00:41:08.100when you're part of a group or a cult or a way of being and you suddenly leave it
00:41:13.500it's like a death in a way i know that sounds very dramatic but it is it's a death of the
00:41:19.280of an old way of living. Absolutely. It's a social death. I don't remember who said it
00:41:25.600recently, but it's a brilliant formulation. Somebody called cancel culture social murder.
00:41:33.720And that's what it is. Reputation destruction and being cast out. This is shunning. This isn't new.
00:41:40.360Nothing we're doing right now is, you know, oh, it's 2022. We just figured this. No, no, no.
00:41:45.200This is ancient human behavior. This is the Salem witch trials. This is the Inquisition. It goes back even further than that. When people are shunned and ejected from a community, their moral status is taken away from them. Their sense of identity in some way is taken away from them. It's our responsibility to rebuild these things ourselves. I'm not suggesting, you know, I'm a victim now. I lost all my friends.
00:42:08.220Well, I certainly felt victimized in the moment.
00:43:35.940Cluster B. Maybe he's born with it. Maybe it's Cluster B.
00:43:49.580Well, where does that come from? It does come, that is a very typical, you can think of it as
00:43:57.640emotional inflation, right? Taking something moderately or minorly distressing and inflating
00:44:04.520it. This is very, very typical of the histrionic personality style, the borderline personality
00:44:09.840style. But it's become normalized. We have normalized personality disorder style relations.
00:44:19.900We actively applaud and affirm them. This whole sort of, well, I'm going to say my piece no matter
00:44:27.720what anybody has to say because I'm a woman of color or I'm a trans person of disability
00:44:33.160or I'm this or I'm that and the more melodramatic and the more you declaim and the
00:44:38.560the more strident your tone of voice the more you get you go girl you go you know it's I mean I
00:44:46.560talked about this on an episode of my show earlier this week a headline in one of the New York
00:44:51.500newspapers talking about Jada Pinkett Smith's struggles with alopecia and alopecia awareness
00:44:58.700advocates are you kidding me are you kidding struggle alopecia awareness everything that is
00:45:11.120frankly not very interesting or doesn't need uh to be put on a pedestal is elevated to this
00:45:18.540fever pitch of emotion um it's not real and it's not that's well it's definitely not helping so
00:45:26.220Josh, obviously we're focusing on negative things here, which is not unusual for us because we're
00:45:32.340sort of looking at the culture and trying to say maybe we're going in the wrong direction on some
00:45:37.720things. But what can be done about this? I know for myself, for example, I do my very best not
00:45:44.120to ever act like a victim. Not because there aren't situations in which people mistreat me or
00:45:49.140whatever, but I just don't think it's helpful to me and to my well-being to consider myself that
00:45:54.540way but me doing that doesn't seem to be changing the culture sadly it's not having that kind of
00:46:00.320impact so what do we do as individuals and as a society to try and overcome these because look
00:46:06.700let's be honest right josh social media isn't going away it's not it's not going to disappear
00:46:10.960it's not so all this talk about oh social media is so bad for us i agree but that talking about
00:46:18.220it's not going to do shit right so we're going to have to do something what can we do
00:46:24.540So what we're doing right now, what the three of us are doing right now, and I'm glad you asked this because I wanted to say it, but I didn't want to say it in the beginning because I didn't want to sound like I was buttering you up so that you'd be nice to me during the interview.
00:46:36.540But I mean this quite seriously. Your show has been a very important component in my political maturation over the past couple of years.
00:46:47.040When I was a lefty, I would not listen to conservative viewpoints.
00:46:53.020I had a very stereotyped view of anybody who had political views that were to the right of mind.
00:46:57.800I engaged in a lot of black and white thinking myself.
00:47:01.360I have some of these traits that I talk about.
00:47:04.040There are few children who come from homes like I do who will not have some of these emotional dysregulation problems.
00:47:12.300But I understand them, and I'm not wholly outside that world myself.
00:47:15.900I just basically assumed that people who were on the right were morally deficient.
00:47:22.180I mean, it's absurd and it's embarrassing to say it, but that is how I acted in the world.
00:47:26.840And when I heard, I don't remember the first episode I heard of your show.
00:47:33.480It might even have been Carrie Smith of Unsafe Space, or it might have been before then.
00:47:38.540But you have such a variety of people on your, you have medical experts, you have researchers,
00:47:43.860you have historians, you have people across the political spectrum. And the commonality with all
00:47:49.140of them is that they're unafraid of stating what they believe to be true and expounding on it in
00:47:54.660an interesting way. I have listened to more people with more political points of view that I scoffed
00:48:00.480at before because of your show than probably any other single sorts of media consumption. So I'm
00:48:07.640very grateful that you guys are out there. I mean, it's interesting too, but it's actually been
00:48:12.720educational for me. So I think that we need to do, you need to do what you're doing. I hope that what
00:48:18.640I'm doing with disaffected will be helpful to people. I want it to be helpful in two ways.
00:48:24.020I want people to make the connection to understand that there is a way of understanding
00:48:30.400and predicting the behavior in this woke culture. If you understand these dynamics,
00:48:35.320I also hope that it will make people feel that they are not crazy.
00:48:40.440I have had countless emails and messages from people saying, it sounds like you're narrating my childhood life or it sounds like you're narrating my marriage or what happened to me in my woke group when I was ejected.
00:48:54.240But I didn't know there was a name for it and I didn't know there was a way to understand it.
00:48:58.880And I'm not trying to big myself up because I didn't understand this until six years ago either.
00:49:03.520I think we have to keep doing these things. I confess that I don't have a better answer for you other than talk about it and have conversations with people who want to change it. I don't know how to fix it, and I suspect – well, I think I'm realistic, but a lot of people call me cynical.
00:49:23.560um from personal experience and from observation in the world i think it's usually true that a
00:49:32.180problem has to get so acute and so unbearably painful that we have no choice but to stand up
00:49:39.140and confront it and walk down a different road um regardless of your efforts my efforts the
00:49:46.380efforts of other people in this kind of conversation shit may have to fall apart a little bit more
00:49:51.840time will tell and josh on a micro level what do you say to those people who are watching or
00:49:58.860listening to this and thinking holy shit my partner friend blah blah blah is a cluster b
00:50:04.600personality what do they do um talk to talk to other people who are in your situation
00:50:14.500Talk to other people who have abusive family structures. Read, read, consume, educate yourself about that. See, I hate educate yourself. We can't even say normal things anymore.
00:50:31.840Sure. When my sister made a phone call to me that changed my life six years ago when the crisis with
00:50:43.360my mother was coming up, I had every excuse in the world. I thought, maybe she has Alzheimer's.
00:50:48.840Maybe she's taken a fall. Maybe she has dementia. Why is she acting this way?
00:50:52.800Well, I was trying to avoid the fact that she'd acted this way my entire life, and I didn't want
00:50:56.680to admit it. My sister called me up and said, Josh, I think I understand what's going on here.
00:51:04.260I think you need to read about this. I think our mother is a narcissist, and I think she has a
00:51:08.140cluster B personality disorder. So I went and I read the Mayo Clinic, the Cleveland Clinic,
00:51:14.300Survivors Forums. I just read and read and read. And the more I read both the clinical literature
00:51:19.800and the lay survivor literature, it was instantly clear to me. As much of a set piece as this
00:51:26.600sounds like it's true. Within three days, an entire lifetime of baffling emotional
00:51:36.560dysregulation, abuse, and lying slotted itself into understandable categories. It was like
00:51:41.960watching a mechanical machine sorting parts, chink, chink, chink, chink, chink. All of a sudden,
00:51:47.460I had clarity. That can happen for you too. Read about this, learn about it, talk to other people,
00:51:55.680watch my show, send us an email. The knowledge of this, just the knowledge alone that you are
00:52:04.980not crazy to have noticed this and you are not the terrible person who has it coming the way
00:52:13.580the person abusing you says or implies is worth so much. That's a great note to leave it, Josh.
00:52:21.360So we're going to ask you a couple of questions from our supporters for our supporters on Locals Only.
00:52:26.800But before we do that, we always have one final question, as you know, which is what is the one thing we're not talking about that we really should be?
00:52:33.360I can see you've got one ready to go. You're you're you're pumped and good.
00:52:37.460Well, I mean, I am, you know, I do actually listen to your show every week.
00:52:41.660So I gave this some I gave this some serious thought.
00:52:44.520And I think what I'd have to say is what we're not talking about enough is how rotten and disgusting sweet potatoes are now.
00:52:55.760Maybe this isn't a problem in Britain, but I'll tell you, boys, over here in the United States, people are trying to sneak sweet potatoes into your stuff all the time.
00:53:05.420So, you know, people who watch my show know that I'm sort of on a one man campaign to get rid of the fibrous, nasty devil's tuber that is sweet potatoes.