TRIGGERnometry - November 17, 2024


The Race Hustle Is Over - Adam Carolla

Topics
race hustles middle class McDonald's Hollywood vulnerability
Hosted by
Francis Foster Konstantin Kisin
Guests
Adam Carolla
Mentioned
Donald Trump Adam Carolla Hitler Bruce Springsteen Sam Harris Gavin Newsom Larry Elder Jon Bon Jovi Robert De Niro Joe Biden Robert Downey Jr. Harvey Weinstein Barack Obama Hillary Clinton Rotten Tomatoes Thomas Sewell Mark Derrigo Liz Cheney JD Vance Drew and 28 more
Why We Lost - Brianna Wu The Dems Need a Civil War - Cenk Uygur

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1 hour and 6 minutes

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160.17

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10,709

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978

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21

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Toxicity

104

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35

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On this week's show, we catch up with Adam Caplan to talk about the mid-term elections, the media's role in the election, and why it's a good thing we're not living in a post-racial America.

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00:00:01.000 Legacy media is almost dead.
00:00:05.000 Celebrity endorsements are dead.
00:00:08.000 And race hustlers are dead.
00:00:10.000 Because that's really all she had. 1.00
00:00:13.000 Trump's racist. Everybody is racist. 1.00
00:00:17.000 But only when they run for president, right?
00:00:19.000 Because Trump wasn't racist before that.
00:00:21.000 He was celebrated as this great American business guy, right?
00:00:24.000 By the way, with them, everything is projection.
00:00:27.000 But they can't wrap their mind around it because they're racist.
00:00:30.000 And every group should just vote with every group, which is a racist thought.
00:00:36.000 They're just going to end up doing what the Republicans do to try to get elected, which is going to seem weird.
00:00:43.000 They're going to have to go, we're Republicans who care.
00:00:47.000 Right now, they're nut jobs who care. 0.94
00:00:51.000 Adam, welcome back to the show.
00:00:53.000 Thanks for having me back.
00:00:54.000 It was great to have you. You're one of our favorite guests.
00:00:56.000 We always look you up when we're in LA.
00:00:59.000 And this time, we're catching you as the elections just happened.
00:01:03.000 It's been a pretty seismic event.
00:01:05.000 Clean sweep, really.
00:01:08.000 What do you make of it all?
00:01:10.000 Well, my thought of it is legacy media is almost dead.
00:01:16.000 Celebrity endorsements are dead.
00:01:19.000 They're dead.
00:01:20.000 And race hustlers are dead.
00:01:22.000 Because that's really all she had.
00:01:26.000 She had the media.
00:01:28.000 She had the race hustlers. 1.00
00:01:31.000 And including Biden and Obama and all the normal, the people you don't even really think of.
00:01:38.000 You know, you think Al Sharpton is a race hustler.
00:01:41.000 But you don't think Obama is a race hustler. 0.93
00:01:43.000 Biden is a race hustler.
00:01:44.000 But they do every bit as much agitation to the races as they possibly can. 0.98
00:01:50.000 And then you have legacy media.
00:01:52.000 And really, it's funny.
00:01:53.000 They always go, well, CNN is over here and then Fox is over here.
00:01:57.000 No, no.
00:01:58.000 It's CNN.
00:01:59.000 It's CBS.
00:02:00.000 It's ABC.
00:02:01.000 It's LA Times.
00:02:02.000 It's New York.
00:02:03.000 It's everybody.
00:02:04.000 And then a couple of people on the right.
00:02:08.000 But the race hustlers, Beyonce endorsing you, and the media are all a bygone era.
00:02:19.000 It's so interesting, isn't it?
00:02:21.000 Because at one point, if the media said something, like in the UK, if The Sun endorsed a political
00:02:28.000 candidate for the election, everybody would be like, oh, this massive tabloid endorsed
00:02:32.000 them.
00:02:33.000 That's it.
00:02:34.000 They're going to win.
00:02:36.000 Now, it almost feels like if the media endorses you, you're not going to win.
00:02:40.000 You know what I mean?
00:02:41.000 Yeah, it becomes a thing where it's like if you see way too many commercials for prop,
00:02:47.000 whatever, it just means they have billions of dollars and maybe you shouldn't vote yes
00:02:52.000 on that thing because you've seen way too many commercials for it.
00:02:56.000 Or maybe it's even like a burger franchise.
00:02:58.000 Like you want to find that sandwich shop that's the hole in the wall, mom and the pop,
00:03:03.000 not the subway.
00:03:04.000 Too much.
00:03:05.000 Too big.
00:03:06.000 You know?
00:03:07.000 Too corporate.
00:03:08.000 Yeah.
00:03:09.000 Too corporate.
00:03:10.000 Maybe that is the era we're living in.
00:03:11.000 That's really interesting.
00:03:12.000 One of the things, I don't know if you felt this way, but you know, we watched the election
00:03:15.000 coverage on ABC and actually it was very balanced, the actual night of the election.
00:03:20.000 But before the election, the media, I mean, I thought they literally picked up what little
00:03:25.000 they had of their credibility and just threw it straight in the bin.
00:03:29.000 Because it was like all this stuff about how he wanted to shoot Liz Cheney and all.
00:03:33.000 Like they went full hoax.
00:03:35.000 Did you know?
00:03:36.000 Did you see that?
00:03:37.000 Yeah.
00:03:38.000 And it sort of mystifies me when people willfully misinterpret actions or words.
00:03:47.000 Willfully.
00:03:48.000 You know what I mean?
00:03:49.000 It's one thing to have a misunderstanding, but it's another thing to force a misunderstanding
00:03:57.000 on something that was so clearly not that, you know?
00:04:02.000 And, and, and for then a news agency to do it is sort of next level because they're here
00:04:08.000 to sort that stuff out, allegedly, not misinterpret things.
00:04:13.000 You know, when you, you take, I watched Trump with Sean Hannity in real time doing his little
00:04:20.000 town hall thing where Hannity did this thing where he went, now tell everyone you're not
00:04:28.000 going to be a dictator.
00:04:30.000 Trump does have a weird Tourette syndrome where like you said, just say you're not a pedophile. 0.59
00:04:37.000 Like if you told him to say, you can't tell him to say something.
00:04:43.000 He says not.
00:04:44.000 So of course Hannity's going, just tell him you're not going to be a dictator.
00:04:49.000 And he's like, Oh, wait a second now.
00:04:51.000 And then he's got to go into Trump.
00:04:52.000 Oh, and he goes, I am going to be a dictator one day, just day one.
00:04:56.000 And I'm going to drill and I'm going to close the border.
00:04:59.000 And then that's it.
00:05:00.000 I'll go back to whatever.
00:05:01.000 And, and, and it's clearly a joke.
00:05:04.000 And the ladies on the view or the New York times or ABC or whomever who, who, who, who 0.94
00:05:12.000 Tim walls, they come out.
00:05:14.000 They understand it's on tape.
00:05:17.000 You can hear him say he's joking.
00:05:18.000 You know what I mean?
00:05:19.000 I mean, it's, it's, it's tantamount to you going, uh, you know, to your, to your kid.
00:05:26.000 Yeah.
00:05:27.000 Little rascal come back here with my hat. 1.00
00:05:29.000 I'll kill you. 1.00
00:05:30.000 If I catch up there. 1.00
00:05:31.000 And then, so he said, he was going to kill his son. 0.80
00:05:33.000 He said it like, are you willfully fooling yourself and your audience?
00:05:39.000 And your audience, although you're not fooled, people are not going to put up with that for
00:05:44.000 an extended period of time.
00:05:45.000 They'll do it for a period of time.
00:05:48.000 But every single thing that they leveled is on tape.
00:05:52.000 It's easily understood.
00:05:54.000 You know, the Liz Cheney thing.
00:05:56.000 It's, it's all there and they knew it.
00:05:58.000 And so now they're starting to realm.
00:06:00.000 They're starting to drift into liar at this point.
00:06:04.000 And I think people caught on.
00:06:06.000 And it's, you know what it kind of reminds me of, you know, when you see like footage
00:06:10.000 of monkeys taking part in an experiment and they hit the button and then they get a grape.
00:06:15.000 And then after five hits of the button, they no longer get the grape and they can't understand
00:06:19.000 and they keep hitting the button.
00:06:20.000 That to me is a mainstream media.
00:06:22.000 They had this tactic.
00:06:23.000 It worked for a while.
00:06:25.000 It no longer works, but they keep doing it.
00:06:27.000 And you're thinking to yourself, do you not understand what you're doing?
00:06:31.000 All you're doing is destroying your credibility, your reputation, and you're just accelerating
00:06:37.000 your own demise.
00:06:38.000 But they don't seem to care almost, which is the interesting part, isn't it?
00:06:44.000 Yeah, I feel that way about calling everyone you disagree with a racist.
00:06:52.000 It's like you cannot possibly, it can't.
00:06:55.000 Mitt Romney can't be racist. 0.99
00:06:57.000 You know, Trump's racist. 1.00
00:06:58.000 Everybody is racist. 1.00
00:07:00.000 Who you disagree with.
00:07:01.000 But only when they run for president, right?
00:07:03.000 Because Trump wasn't racist before that.
00:07:04.000 No, no, no, no, no.
00:07:05.000 He was celebrated as this great American business guy, right?
00:07:07.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:07:08.000 I've always said there's never been a better time to be an actual racist.
00:07:11.000 You just get lumped in with me and Trump and you guys and Dave Rubin and Dennis Prager.
00:07:18.000 You know, you just get lumped in with all these luminaries.
00:07:21.000 Yeah.
00:07:22.000 And it just, it's so interesting because I was in two minds about this election.
00:07:27.000 I didn't know who was going to win.
00:07:29.000 I can't be honest with you.
00:07:30.000 Because we're in such a bubble, I had an inkling that it might be Kamala.
00:07:34.000 And I was saying to Constantine, I think it might be Kamala.
00:07:36.000 Maybe we're just in a bubble.
00:07:38.000 And then I saw that tweet of hers where she was calling people fascist.
00:07:41.000 And then I thought, oh, that's a sign of somebody who's losing and knows they're losing.
00:07:47.000 The moment you start smearing people as fascist, that's the moment you've lost any type of argument or discussion.
00:07:53.000 Well, also what I never really get and it doesn't seem effective is if you would like to make a case against somebody, you should do it.
00:08:05.000 But when you paint in these very broad strokes, it kind of lands on deaf ears, you know, and it's a lot of it is a sort of a, has a feminine quality to it.
00:08:17.000 You know, when you get into arguments with a woman, she'll go, you're the worst husband ever born. 0.98
00:08:24.000 Listen, you live in 8,000 square feet.
00:08:27.000 I've never put hands on you.
00:08:28.000 So I got a crack.
00:08:30.000 Maybe I'm in the top five.
00:08:32.000 But I can't be the worst ever born.
00:08:34.000 You know what I mean? 1.00
00:08:35.000 Where's my belt, bitch? 1.00
00:08:38.000 They do this thing and then it doesn't work. 1.00
00:08:41.000 You know, if they would say, if they would go, look, you don't listen a lot of the time when I'm talking to you.
00:08:46.000 You seem not to want to engage or something.
00:08:49.000 Then you'd have to kind of go, maybe I am kind of guilty of tuning out or something.
00:08:54.000 They go, worst father ever born or worst husband ever born.
00:08:57.000 And we're back to, you know, and that's what they, what they do, which I love is they go, Trump is Hitler and he's old. 0.62
00:09:08.000 And then he's going to die in office and JD Vance is going to take over and it's going to be worse. 0.86
00:09:15.000 And I'm like, worse than Hitler. 0.54
00:09:17.000 So you got Hitler and then Hitler with mad MMA skills. 0.51
00:09:23.000 Like, but I'm not listening because you're crazed hyperbole all the time.
00:09:29.000 Yeah.
00:09:30.000 That's why I'm not listening.
00:09:31.000 And also when it never happens, they never course correct.
00:09:36.000 They just, whatever.
00:09:37.000 Trump's going to be in there.
00:09:38.000 There's not going to be an internment camps.
00:09:40.000 There's no Hitlerian behavior.
00:09:42.000 There's no turning the military on, on everyone who didn't vote for him.
00:09:46.000 But yet they'll never course correct.
00:09:48.000 They'll just go right back to it.
00:09:50.000 Yeah.
00:09:51.000 And you just even scratch, not even the surface, but just the light dusting of a layer.
00:09:56.000 And you're like, well, so Trump's Hitler with an Orthodox Jewish daughter who converted. 0.73
00:10:01.000 Oh yeah. 0.99
00:10:02.000 And Trump and JD Vance is, is even worse than Hitler with an Indian wife. 0.99
00:10:06.000 Right, right. 0.94
00:10:07.000 Oh no, there is, you can't do any of that stuff where you try to kind of re-engineer stuff and go,
00:10:19.000 how could I be X, Y, and Z?
00:10:22.000 I'm married to an X, Y, and Z.
00:10:24.000 Or my children converted to whatever.
00:10:26.000 None of that works.
00:10:28.000 I mean, when they, when, when they start digging in and going down a road, that's it.
00:10:38.000 You know, you could be Jewish and they would call you a Nazi.
00:10:41.000 It doesn't, it doesn't really matter once, once they start going down that road.
00:10:45.000 Yeah.
00:10:46.000 So you've been watching this whole back and forth in American politics for a while now.
00:10:51.000 First question.
00:10:52.000 Do you think because of the scale of the victory, because he won the popular vote, because he,
00:10:58.000 he won the presidency, he won the Senate.
00:11:01.000 We're recording this at a time when we don't know if he won the house, but it could happen.
00:11:05.000 He could be just absolutely dominant.
00:11:08.000 The media and the Democrats are going to have to actually look in the mirror.
00:11:13.000 Do you think that's going to happen?
00:11:15.000 I think a segment and a portion of them will do some self assessment kind of thing.
00:11:23.000 You know, it's like they just stepped on the scale and it said 350 pounds and a certain amount of them are going to step off the scale and go, I got to lose some weight. 0.99
00:11:34.000 But another percentage are going to say, fuck this scale, which is how they work. 0.99
00:11:41.000 So it's like all the scales Hitler or the scales Hitler. 1.00
00:11:44.000 Yeah.
00:11:45.000 So I just was watching some clips of, you know, MSNBC, you know, they're sort of the extreme left.
00:11:53.000 But a lot of the breakdowns of the autopsy from the left and the autopsy, they go right back to white women. 1.00
00:12:04.000 We blame white women for this. 1.00
00:12:06.000 They did. 0.92
00:12:07.000 They did not vote.
00:12:08.000 They did not support. 0.86
00:12:09.000 So what they do because they're racist.
00:12:13.000 And by the way, with them, everything is projection.
00:12:16.000 When they're talking about races, right there, they're talking about themselves.
00:12:20.000 When they're talking about totalitarianism, you know, they're talking about everyone's got to get vaccinated.
00:12:25.000 Lawfare.
00:12:26.000 Lawfare.
00:12:27.000 Yeah.
00:12:28.000 It's all them.
00:12:29.000 It's all into a mirror.
00:12:30.000 So what they do is they break everyone off into a race.
00:12:34.000 Right. 0.93
00:12:35.000 And then they yell at the race that doesn't support the race because in their mind, if you're black, that guy's black. 0.99
00:12:43.000 We own you. 0.97
00:12:44.000 What are you doing?
00:12:45.000 You know what I mean?
00:12:46.000 It's like, well, I don't know.
00:12:47.000 Maybe I don't like his policies.
00:12:48.000 You know, like Obama.
00:12:51.000 Seven point two or whatever.
00:12:53.000 Seven plus black males out of 10 are going to vote for Kamala Harris, which is sounds pretty good if you're Kamala Harris, but it's not good enough for Barack Obama.
00:13:04.000 He wants to find the 2.8 black men who aren't voting for Kamala Harris and yell at them.
00:13:09.000 And it's like, well, maybe they own a small business and maybe they have different interests or priorities than you.
00:13:18.000 But this whole thing is there's this unqualified mostly Indian woman over here who you black guys need to vote for because she's going to do because she's black or have black or something. 0.99
00:13:31.000 That's enough. 0.88
00:13:32.000 You know what I mean?
00:13:33.000 And so what they do is they go.
00:13:34.000 Black men, black women came through.
00:13:38.000 They're heroes.
00:13:39.000 Black women are great. 1.00
00:13:40.000 Those are those are great.
00:13:41.000 They voted 92 percent for Kamala.
00:13:44.000 Black guys, a little disappointing that, you know, Mexicans. 1.00
00:13:49.000 Oh, boy. 0.99
00:13:50.000 Oh, boy.
00:13:51.000 They did not tell them what's going on.
00:13:54.000 You know what I mean?
00:13:55.000 White men. 0.62
00:13:56.000 Okay. 1.00
00:13:57.000 Lost cause white women. 1.00
00:13:58.000 What's going on?
00:13:59.000 You know what I mean?
00:14:00.000 And it's like maybe they like the message of this other person more than the message of the person they share a uterus with.
00:14:08.000 But they can't wrap their mind around it because they're racist and every group should just vote with every group, which is a racist thought.
00:14:18.000 Right.
00:14:19.000 You know, I always say my actual white privilege is not getting free stuff because I have a rich dad. 0.99
00:14:28.000 My white privilege is looking at six foot two, 50 something year old, heterosexual Gavin Newsom, white guy, and going, I hate that douchebag. 0.99
00:14:41.000 I would never vote for him. 0.99
00:14:43.000 And no one says to me, well, come on, he's white.
00:14:46.000 I don't like his policy.
00:14:48.000 I'll vote for Larry Elder.
00:14:50.000 I get to vote for Larry Elder and not be ostracized from the white community.
00:14:56.000 That's my privilege.
00:14:57.000 Right.
00:14:58.000 That's a really good point.
00:14:59.000 That's a really good point.
00:15:01.000 And I guess the second question, given the scale of the victories, are you hopeful that this is gonna, that Trump has an opportunity now to really actually deliver on the things that he promised?
00:15:13.000 Because in the first term, he had to contend with a powerful media machine.
00:15:19.000 He doesn't have that problem nearly as much now.
00:15:21.000 He had to contend with a lot more opposition.
00:15:25.000 Mm-hmm.
00:15:26.000 Now it's almost like he can do the things that he promised the American people.
00:15:30.000 Are you optimistic about that?
00:15:32.000 Um, here's what I think.
00:15:34.000 I think the first time Trump came into office, he was naive.
00:15:40.000 And not naive in a, in a way that any of us wouldn't have been.
00:15:47.000 You know, he just sort of walked in and went, I've never done this before, so who should I surround myself with?
00:15:54.000 And then, and he also, I think, had the misbelief that if he really did the right thing, that the New York Times and other outlets and the Manhattan elite would come around to him.
00:16:09.000 Like, once they saw he was a good guy and trying to do what was best, they would warm up to him and move over.
00:16:16.000 You know, they, they had to battle for Hillary Clinton, but now that the battle was over and they understood he wanted what was best for our country or opportunity zones for black men or he's gonna, you know, pardon the niece of Louis Armstrong who's in jail or something like that.
00:16:36.000 He thought they would move over and warm up to him.
00:16:40.000 He did not understand there was a fatwa that was declared and it was gonna keep getting worse, right?
00:16:45.000 He also, I don't think, understood the circle of people who didn't want him there who were there.
00:16:51.000 I mean, I've had jobs where I took over for Howard Stern on the West Coast some years ago.
00:17:00.000 I didn't know the general manager and people at the radio station didn't want me there.
00:17:05.000 And, and it's a weird thing, but it's sort of like your wife poisoning you slowly with your, in your cereal every morning.
00:17:13.000 You're like, this, these oats taste weird.
00:17:15.000 Ah, that's just how you like them.
00:17:17.000 You know, you're like, God, I feel so sluggish, you know?
00:17:20.000 And, and so I don't think he knew the game and he, and he also didn't know they were from, from within sabotaging him.
00:17:31.000 I don't, and I don't think he knew the scope and the scale of sort of the swamp and the deep state.
00:17:38.000 And then also he had a second term to think about.
00:17:43.000 So, you know, when COVID came around, he had to go, I'm not firing Fauci.
00:17:48.000 Cause if I fire Fauci, the right, the country is going to turn against me.
00:17:52.000 I got a second term to go for.
00:17:55.000 Uh, now he's free of the second term.
00:17:59.000 And I think he gets clearly what they do.
00:18:03.000 And he also understands the New York times op-ed is never going to write it a kind or fair or even accurate thing about you ever.
00:18:12.000 So now it's time just to go for broke.
00:18:14.000 And, and so I'm kind of looking forward to what that looks like.
00:18:19.000 Now my friends on the left think go for broke means open as many gulags as humanly possible.
00:18:28.000 I, I don't, but they, that's how they feel.
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00:19:02.000 You know, it's so interesting how the left in this country have mirrored the left in our country.
00:19:08.000 How they've abandoned ordinary working class blue collar concerns.
00:19:13.000 They have moved over to progressive policies, progressive ideologies that most people don't care about because it doesn't affect their lives. 1.00
00:19:23.000 It's like Bill Clinton said, it's the economy stupid. 0.99
00:19:26.000 How could the Democrats have forgotten the words of possibly one of their best ever presidents? 1.00
00:19:34.000 You know, it's called a progressive movement.
00:19:38.000 And if you take progressive and movement, it means it just keeps going.
00:19:44.000 They never pump the brakes.
00:19:46.000 You know, they go.
00:19:47.000 And it's an interesting ruse, I guess I would call it.
00:19:53.000 But it's also it has an interesting sort of psychodynamic to it.
00:19:57.000 Like it always starts with something reasonable.
00:20:02.000 You go.
00:20:03.000 Why shouldn't a gay couple be allowed to marry so they could have the same rights and privileges, you know, insurance and stuff, you know, whatever. 1.00
00:20:11.000 And then people like us go, yeah, OK, that that that kind of makes sense.
00:20:18.000 And it takes a little while and then they get it.
00:20:21.000 And and then our head on it is, well, that's what they want.
00:20:26.000 And they've been agitating a lot and give it to them and then we can move forward and we won't have to argue about this thing.
00:20:32.000 And then they go, well, what's wrong with a little trans story hour, you know, and you go, what is that again?
00:20:41.000 Well, that's the transvestite reading hop on pop to six year olds at the public library.
00:20:47.000 You go, oh, no, I don't.
00:20:51.000 I don't. Oh, you're not down with the movement, are you?
00:20:54.000 And I'm like, no, I'm kind of I'm for gay rights.
00:20:57.000 I just well, we're thinking about trans kids, you know, getting healthy breasts cut off when they're 13 and taking puberty blockers. 0.97
00:21:05.000 And you're like, no, I'm not.
00:21:07.000 And they go, oh, I interesting.
00:21:09.000 I didn't know you're homophobic and bigoted, you know, and you're like, what is going on?
00:21:14.000 Well, what's going on is they keep going. 0.93
00:21:19.000 They don't stop. America stops.
00:21:22.000 America goes gay rights. Good. 1.00
00:21:26.000 Love who you want.
00:21:27.000 Get married.
00:21:28.000 Have the same privileges heterosexual couples have. 0.98
00:21:32.000 But then you get Dylan Mulvaney taking pictures in the Oval Office with Biden and America goes, I don't know about that.
00:21:41.000 That that's that's a little too far.
00:21:43.000 And they do it with everything.
00:21:44.000 They do it with immigration. 0.97
00:21:45.000 They do.
00:21:46.000 They do it with everything.
00:21:47.000 You know, it always starts off with something where you go.
00:21:50.000 Well, what's wrong?
00:21:52.000 So let's see.
00:21:53.000 Someone's being politically persecuted in Guatemala, like tortured by the federalis.
00:21:58.000 Shouldn't they be able to come here and seek asylum? 1.00
00:22:01.000 And you go, yeah, that sounds reasonable.
00:22:04.000 I'd like to say that's that's the kind of nation we are.
00:22:06.000 And the next thing you know, it just turns into migrants and illegals living in hotels in New York and being bussed in and everything else. 0.73
00:22:14.000 And so they don't stop.
00:22:16.000 Now, what they do do and what come up when you saw Kamala Harris do is they understand most of America is not down with this.
00:22:25.000 So five years ago, there's lots of talk about her defunding ice and transgender surgeries for prisoners and ending fracking.
00:22:36.000 And now they focus group.
00:22:39.000 They test that stuff and they go, OK, America doesn't like this.
00:22:42.000 So then she goes, OK, I have to pretend like I'm not for that stuff anymore because now I need America's vote.
00:22:50.000 It's also an interesting thing.
00:22:53.000 All these things they they they they changed their politics on.
00:22:58.000 Biden does it a lot. 1.00
00:22:59.000 Kamala Harris was 55 when she said all that shit. 1.00
00:23:03.000 You know, she was a young, bright eyed kid, still fresh with idealism right out of school. 1.00
00:23:09.000 She's 55. 0.78
00:23:10.000 She had a hysterectomy.
00:23:12.000 And then she said no more fracking.
00:23:14.000 Do you think you change your opinion on stuff from 55 to 60?
00:23:18.000 Nobody believed him.
00:23:19.000 Right.
00:23:20.000 Nobody believed it.
00:23:21.000 Right.
00:23:22.000 So it's interesting, though, because I find this fascinating because, you know, I was in Australia earlier this year and they're not nearly as polarized as we are in the UK or as you are in the US here.
00:23:34.000 So I was at this meeting where there was people from the left and right.
00:23:38.000 And the first thing that the guy who was hosting had said is, you know, I I'm from this party.
00:23:44.000 I don't want the other party to win.
00:23:46.000 But when they do and it's going to happen, I want them to be the best possible version of that party for our country.
00:23:53.000 Right. I'm very interested in where the left goes from here.
00:23:56.000 And I see two parts, really.
00:23:58.000 They can double down.
00:23:59.000 And in that case, if as long as Trump can deliver on the promises that he's made, they're going to be in the wilderness for decades if they double down or they're going to have to learn.
00:24:10.000 And that to me is a fascinating thing.
00:24:12.000 Yeah, I I mean, you know, it to be continued.
00:24:16.000 I mean, I think it would be positive if they learned from this.
00:24:22.000 I mean, the the reality is, is it's sort of like.
00:24:30.000 There's a lot of people that want you to be vegetarian, but America loves ribs.
00:24:38.000 And you can do all your impossible burgers and your Tofurky you want.
00:24:43.000 But when it comes time to take a vote and what we're going to eat at this Super Bowl party ribs overwhelming majority and America, as much as they'd like to focus on abortion rights and trans rights and, you know, Hitler and whatever America's economy border, you know, foreign security, military.
00:25:12.000 We're very ribs and you were meat and potatoes.
00:25:15.000 We are because we're pragmatic at the at the end of the day.
00:25:20.000 And the other stuff is kind of window dressing, you know, and, you know, we're in California.
00:25:27.000 Gas is five fifty a gallon that affects everybody all the time and hits poor people the hardest, you know, abortion, trans game, whatever that that affects some people some of the time.
00:25:40.000 But this is all the people all the time.
00:25:43.000 So the Democrats are going to have to learn that they're going to have to give up the vegan ghost and move more toward the ribs.
00:25:51.000 The problem is, is they're just going to end up doing what the Republicans do to try to get elected, which is going to seem weird.
00:26:00.000 It's like Kamala Harris is like, I think we should build some of that border wall.
00:26:04.000 It's like, OK, like all she was saying to try to win votes is stuff Republicans have been saying with like a dusting of human rights stuff over here.
00:26:14.000 So they're in kind of a conundrum.
00:26:17.000 But they I think they have to move toward ribs with an eye toward having a turkey burger for some of the people in the party.
00:26:27.000 You know, like we are sensitive to some some of these food allergies or something like that.
00:26:32.000 So it's like they're going to have to go. We're Republicans who care right now.
00:26:38.000 They're not jobs who care. And that's that's why they lost.
00:26:42.000 Do you see any politicians like that on the American left at the moment, Adam?
00:26:45.000 Josh Shapiro seemed an interesting one. 0.98
00:26:48.000 He was like, you know, Donald Trump needs to stop shit talking America and stuff. 0.98
00:26:52.000 He struck me as one that was maybe attempting and he's from Pennsylvania. 0.99
00:26:55.000 So you can see why he'd be popular there with that kind of attitude.
00:26:59.000 You see anyone else? I mean, Fetterman, it seems to be drifting towards sanity.
00:27:04.000 You know, he's saying things that you didn't normally hear from a politician from the left.
00:27:13.000 So I think there is a kind of a Fetterman ask, you know, leaning for some of these people.
00:27:22.000 I mean, it's hard to tell because they're so transactional, you know, like you've got some guy.
00:27:27.000 He's a Democrat and he's talking about fracking.
00:27:30.000 He's from Pennsylvania.
00:27:31.000 You know, it's like, all right, he just he's trying to get votes.
00:27:33.000 You know, I don't know if he really believes it.
00:27:35.000 I mean, I think part of the problem with the left, too, is is you have to be so lockstep with them on everything that there's really you cannot deviate from the path.
00:27:49.000 And some of their stuff is is nutty and hard to go along with if you're sort of rational and sensible and reasonable.
00:27:57.000 But I think a lot of people on the left had to go with it.
00:28:01.000 I mean, how many politicians on the left or Democrats knew that January 6th wasn't a resurrection, wasn't a deadly insurrection?
00:28:15.000 They had that. There's so many of them knew that none of them could say it was a bad ride.
00:28:21.000 It was pretty ugly, but not really an insurrection.
00:28:24.000 Did you hear anyone say that they have to go? They have to go.
00:28:28.000 Yeah. And it's it's really interesting because when you talk to we know a lot of people who are voting Republican and always try and look at the other side.
00:28:37.000 And I think, you know, they must have some good ideas and some policies.
00:28:40.000 And I remember coming to L.A. in 2002 and coming back here 22 years later.
00:28:47.000 And the downfall of L.A. and California in general has been awful to see.
00:28:53.000 And you're going, well, why would anybody vote for you if you just want to make America into a bigger California?
00:29:01.000 Yeah, I agree. It's like when Gavin Newsom was flirting with running for president or sort of we could tell what he was thinking about.
00:29:13.000 I said, Gavin Newsom, he's like a guy who runs the world's shittiest taco stand going, I want to franchise.
00:29:23.000 You know, it's like your tacos. Nobody likes him now. I want to get wild worldwide.
00:29:28.000 And it's like you want to franchise this to the rest.
00:29:32.000 Also, like, I don't think that Gavin Newsom understands that California is used as a sort of joke and a threat to the rest of the country.
00:29:42.000 Like you want to end up like California. You know what I mean?
00:29:45.000 It's like it's like if you had a older brother in juvenile hall when you're in high school.
00:29:50.000 So you keep skipping school, son, you're going to end up with math. OK, like that's that's what California is.
00:29:57.000 We're like this example of you don't want to end up like.
00:30:00.000 Yeah. And I don't even know. To me, that's like the ultimate slap in the face, you know, like we and not only we willed ourself into this.
00:30:11.000 We did. We weren't this. We we manifested this. We made ourselves this.
00:30:16.000 And we're so dumb in California. We just had prop thirty five or thirty six or whatever it was. Right. 0.98
00:30:24.000 So what we do is we go. You know, I want a proposition, you know, four years ago or however many years ago where we're going to make it a misdemeanor to shoplift anything under eight hundred and fifty dollars.
00:30:38.000 And then it's bedlam and chaos. You know, I wouldn't smash and grabs.
00:30:42.000 You know, everyone's just stealing everything. And we live with that for like four or five years.
00:30:47.000 And then we go, I got another idea. Let's have a bill that says you can't do that anymore.
00:30:54.000 And then we argue about it. And then that bill passes because the first bill was a horrible idea and caused all this.
00:31:02.000 And we do this all the time or like we fix this problem, except for the people that voted on the people that instituted the first bill never get voted out.
00:31:13.000 That's the kind of weird part. It's still it's California is like, oh, we hate all the policy, but we will never stop voting for the Democrats that are in charge of creating the policy.
00:31:24.000 Why not? I you know, I think there is a.
00:31:30.000 An allegiance in the Democratic Party that is.
00:31:37.000 Runs deeper, I think, than the Republicans, I think.
00:31:44.000 I think. I think by nature, Republicans are a little more pragmatic and in the sense that.
00:31:53.000 If you, you know, black women vote overwhelmingly for Democrats. 1.00
00:31:59.000 They've been doing this for 60 years.
00:32:02.000 They've got nothing.
00:32:03.000 They've got nothing in return.
00:32:06.000 Now, what they get every year is I see you and you're going to have a seat at the table.
00:32:10.000 And, you know, I care about everybody and I'm going to blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
00:32:14.000 It never happens.
00:32:15.000 They had a two term black president.
00:32:18.000 They've had it all.
00:32:19.000 It never worked.
00:32:20.000 It doesn't work in their town.
00:32:21.000 It doesn't. 0.99
00:32:22.000 They go, we need a black mayor and a black fire chief and a black D.A. 1.00
00:32:25.000 And a black. 0.98
00:32:26.000 And it doesn't.
00:32:27.000 It never worked.
00:32:28.000 It never worked.
00:32:29.000 But they do it.
00:32:30.000 Well, I mean, you know, 92% or something that block, you know.
00:32:35.000 Now, pragmatic people after about 50 years of nothing working would go, you know what?
00:32:43.000 I'm thinking about a different direction.
00:32:45.000 Call me crazy, you know.
00:32:47.000 And Democrats, if I, as I don't even consider myself a conservative, but just as a sort of a pragmatic person, if the guy I voted for started doing a bunch of stuff that didn't work and I didn't agree with, I would vote for somebody else pretty, pretty quickly.
00:33:07.000 They also, once you subscribe to this Hitlerian stuff, well, then you have to vote for that person because in L.A. we had Gavin Newsom running against Larry Elder.
00:33:25.000 Now, the L.A.
00:33:27.000 Now, the L.A. Times called Larry Elder the black face of white supremacy.
00:33:32.000 So if you said one guy's a white supremacist or Hitlerian or in the Klan, that guy doesn't want to raise the price of a parking ticket by $10.
00:33:47.000 But the other guy who's not in the Klan and not Hitler does, I would then, if I believe that, I would go, well, I don't want to raise the price of a parking ticket, but also I don't want to be led by Klansmen, so I will vote for this other guy. 0.99
00:34:03.120 So what they do is they go, look, it's a shit show and nothing works and we're broke and homeless and it's a dumpster fire here, but our guy loves people. 0.99
00:34:14.240 And the other guy who says he's going to fix all this stuff is a racist. 1.00
00:34:20.240 So who would you vote for?
00:34:23.360 I keep thinking.
00:34:25.240 You know, it sounds comedic, but it just is true.
00:34:29.020 Yeah.
00:34:29.320 It's just true.
00:34:30.820 Right.
00:34:31.220 My mom, before she died, said a couple of years ago, she just goes, the recall or whatever, and she just goes,
00:34:41.120 I know who Gavin Newsom, I know Gavin Newsom, I don't know this Larry Elder, like I know how I'm going to vote.
00:34:49.180 I don't want, I like, I know there's a homeless encampment on the roof of my house, but this guy cares and the other guy could be me.
00:35:01.280 And so I'm voting for the guy who cares.
00:35:02.980 You know, the hack definition of insanity is doing the same thing again and again and expecting different results.
00:35:11.600 Right.
00:35:11.760 I guess my question to you is just, is everyone in California mental?
00:35:15.060 I think there's a fair bit of that because it does attract people who are a little pie in the sky.
00:35:27.640 You know, we take the most mental of all the other neighboring states and invite them here to pursue their dreams that never come true.
00:35:39.520 There's also an interesting phenomenon that I've sort of observed, which is people who were born and raised in Los Angeles and California are nearly as nutty as the ones who come here and do their impersonations of someone who lived in Hollywood or L.A.
00:36:04.060 So as, um, as an example, um, I realized that the guys and kind of contemporary guys, you know, um, Mark Derrigo's attorney, dear friend lives, uh, born and bred here.
00:36:20.980 Locke, Indiana, Pasadena, whatever.
00:36:22.920 Dr. Drew, dear friend, born and bred, California, Adam Kroll, born and bred here.
00:36:29.460 Um, no tattoos, no earrings, no crazy thoughts, you know, not, you know, not, not ramming a Japanese whaler, you know, out on the coast.
00:36:41.820 Like Mark and Drew and me are like three of the most, uh, dare I say normal guys out there.
00:36:49.420 I see the people, I see these guys in Hollywood all the time.
00:36:53.720 They come here from the sticks that I've worked with people from Brattleboro, Vermont, you know, and wherever deep, deep place.
00:37:03.120 And then they come here and they get an earring and a tattoo and they go, they're doing an impersonation of what they think a Hollywood hipster or a Californian would be.
00:37:15.260 And they go much harder in that direction than the people who are from here. 0.99
00:37:20.680 The people, the guys I grew up with, blue collar dudes live in the Valley, not a, not, none of the woke, none of the woke.
00:37:29.980 It's the people who come here and do their impersonation.
00:37:34.160 Like, how would I act if I belonged in California?
00:37:37.940 I know I dye my hair pink and I get really angry at, at, uh, Trump, you know, and that's, that's who they are.
00:37:45.880 So it's comprised of a bunch of people who relocated and are doing their impersonation of someone from California.
00:37:54.100 You know, I was reading an interview with John Bon Jovi.
00:37:56.840 He was talking about living in Malibu and he said the reason that he left Malibu was because he felt completely disconnected from reality.
00:38:05.020 And he said, number one, you can't be creative.
00:38:08.720 He went, so there was that change.
00:38:10.840 He goes, but number two, it wasn't good for my kids because they thought this paradise was reality and it's not.
00:38:19.040 Do you think this is just what happens when life just gets too easy when you wake up every day and it's sunny and it's the perfect breeze and you can go out and everybody's, you know, working in the arts.
00:38:30.700 By the way, if people are watching or listening who haven't been to California, it's like that, like 300 days a year.
00:38:36.200 Well, I moved to Malibu because I wanted to be disconnected from the creative process.
00:38:43.740 Um, you know, what's funny?
00:38:46.520 I, in Malibu, wrote a joke about John Bon Jovi.
00:38:52.080 I, just two weeks ago, I literally made up a joke about Bon Jovi from Malibu.
00:38:59.600 So Jovi, Bon Jovi, John Bon Jovi saying that the creative process dies in Malibu.
00:39:06.020 This comedian bakes a difference.
00:39:08.700 I wrote a crazy, do you guys want to hear this?
00:39:11.380 Go on.
00:39:12.120 It's a, it's a, it's a little rambling.
00:39:15.340 I gotta, I have to say, but it's kind of interesting.
00:39:18.720 And I don't know if it'll translate to, um, the UK, but you guys are pretty hip to the references.
00:39:26.400 I watched that John Bon Jovi doc on Hulu.
00:39:31.140 And he said in the doc, he was getting too old and he feels like he lost his speedball.
00:39:39.840 Now the term is you lost your fastball.
00:39:44.100 It's not called the speedball.
00:39:46.200 It's called a fastball and the colloquialism for getting old and not being able to pull
00:39:51.560 it off anymore as you've lost your fastball.
00:39:54.380 And then he's also the King of Jersey.
00:39:57.200 And the other guy is the King of Jersey is Bruce Springsteen.
00:40:01.400 And Bruce Springsteen has a song called Glory Days where he sings about a high school guy
00:40:08.680 who could throw a speedball past you.
00:40:11.180 And it's always bothered me because I'm like, glory days.
00:40:14.640 I'm like, it's not a speedball boss.
00:40:16.440 It's a fastball.
00:40:18.080 And then I realized the two Kings of Jersey say speedball when they mean fastball.
00:40:26.400 And then I thought, is this a Jersey thing?
00:40:31.320 And then, because I'm from LA and in LA, a speedball is a totally different thing.
00:40:39.060 That's heroin and cocaine.
00:40:41.760 That is, that's a speedball.
00:40:43.440 A fastball is, is a baseball term.
00:40:47.260 And so I had this fantasy about being at a party and seeing Bruce Springsteen and saying
00:40:54.580 to him, because I don't know if it's a, they go the other way.
00:40:57.600 Do they say speedball when they mean fastball and fastball when they mean speedball?
00:41:02.440 It could be a two-way street for them.
00:41:04.540 And I would go up to Bruce Springsteen and I would say, what killed John Belushi?
00:41:10.520 And he would go, he was killed by a fastball.
00:41:18.660 And I would go, I knew it.
00:41:22.800 It's an esoteric word joke, but you brought up Bon Jovi and the creative process in Malibu.
00:41:30.220 I mean, it's absolutely fair.
00:41:32.840 I mean, talking, just touching on celebrities, the amount of celebrities that came out for
00:41:38.500 Kamala.
00:41:39.400 And we talk about celebrities being dead and we kind of glossed over it, but this is America.
00:41:45.840 This is California.
00:41:47.340 Your celebrities are the royal family.
00:41:50.320 You know, Bruce Springsteen coming out for Kamala, Beyonce coming out for Kamala.
00:41:56.400 Why is it we've stopped believing in celebrities?
00:42:01.320 I think they used to have an air of mystery and with that came dignity.
00:42:10.460 And so when I was growing up, I mean, not growing up, but an older, a younger version of me thought
00:42:20.440 Robert De Niro must be a genius, you know, because he never did interviews.
00:42:25.380 He didn't hear anything he had to say.
00:42:27.260 He just had this gift of this ability of, of, of acting.
00:42:33.100 And, and you would go, that guy's a genius.
00:42:36.400 That guy's a genius.
00:42:37.100 He didn't talk.
00:42:38.060 I didn't, I never heard him give his opinion on anything.
00:42:41.360 I just saw his product.
00:42:43.900 I was like, that guy's a genius.
00:42:45.060 And it was sort of the same with Bruce Springsteen.
00:42:48.400 Did I tell you my Jovey joke with Bruce?
00:42:51.860 Very good impersonation, Joe Biden.
00:42:54.740 Thank you.
00:42:56.020 He didn't say much.
00:42:57.240 He just performed.
00:42:58.860 And, and, and, and, and everyone would go, that guy's a genius.
00:43:02.120 That guy's a genius. 0.96
00:43:03.440 Well, then these guys started talking and he, and he went, oh, Robert De Niro is a douchebag, 0.98
00:43:10.360 not a genius. 0.88
00:43:11.280 Now he destroyed his legacy because he should have never grabbed a microphone and started
00:43:19.640 dropping F-bombs and going on the view because then he becomes, he went from Robert De Niro 0.99
00:43:26.100 sort of mystery genius to Robert, Robert De Niro, dumb douchebag. 0.99
00:43:33.520 And, and I think many celebrities did that to themselves. 0.94
00:43:38.460 Such a great point, Adam is such a great point.
00:43:40.700 I think it's one of the reasons Denzel Washington is so universally respected because he doesn't
00:43:44.580 get involved in this stuff.
00:43:46.040 We still think of him as a genius, right?
00:43:48.180 Right.
00:43:48.800 Well, we, the, the guys who, who kind of go, well, first off, many of them sound unhinged
00:43:58.700 and unreasonable.
00:44:00.560 You know what I mean?
00:44:01.200 So when you see the celebs, Mark Ruffalo or those kinds of guys get up there and start
00:44:07.880 screaming about him wanting to lock everybody up and, you know, uh, put strict nine and
00:44:14.500 baby formula and, you know, fly, fly his Trump plane into another, into the Eiffel tower this 0.99
00:44:21.180 time, you know, like you just go, Oh, shut up. 0.99
00:44:23.740 Like, you don't know what you're talking about. 1.00
00:44:25.080 You sound like an idiot now. 1.00
00:44:27.340 And, um, the community, the Hollywood community sort of did that to themselves, but there was 1.00
00:44:35.860 also a turn in that we used to listen to elites and now we don't trust elites.
00:44:46.720 That's why everyone is vying to not be elite.
00:44:54.220 You know, I mean, you take Kamala Harris, you know, spent her many formative years in 0.88
00:45:00.840 Montreal going to a, a, a private, you know, an elite private school, right?
00:45:06.660 Parents, both professors at Berkeley.
00:45:09.320 Like it doesn't get much more elite than both your parents were professors at Berkeley.
00:45:14.120 Uh, what she, she's Jenny from the block, grew up in Oakland, worked at McDonald's middle 1.00
00:45:20.560 class, right?
00:45:21.540 Well, a lot of talk about middle class McDonald's, uh, grew up in Oakland.
00:45:28.540 And well, it's true that she spent a lot of time in Oakland, but she spent a lot of time
00:45:34.060 in Canada going to like an elite prep school, which you would never know because she'll never 0.98
00:45:39.740 say it.
00:45:41.060 And also, uh, the news is never going to say it.
00:45:45.380 Now you just take something like McDonald's.
00:45:48.920 I worked at McDonald's.
00:45:51.300 I never bragged that I worked at McDonald's from the time I worked at McDonald's till 10
00:45:56.640 minutes ago, because it did not get you any currency saying I worked at McDonald's was 0.99
00:46:01.960 just saying I was poor and I was stupid. 1.00
00:46:03.620 And my parents were poor and they were stupid too. 1.00
00:46:06.520 And so I ended up working behind the grill at McDonald's people bragging. 1.00
00:46:12.160 They worked at McDonald's.
00:46:13.100 I mean, she's literally lying to say I work.
00:46:17.840 You used to lie and say you didn't work at McDonald's.
00:46:21.800 You know what I mean?
00:46:22.320 Like if I was at a party when I was 28 and trying to pick up a girl and my friend came
00:46:27.440 up and went, you know, he used to work at McDonald's. 0.97
00:46:29.160 I go, shut up. 0.99
00:46:30.280 You know what you're talking about? 1.00
00:46:31.160 This guy's drunk.
00:46:33.560 So, so this is, we don't like elites anymore.
00:46:37.560 Celebrities.
00:46:38.220 The other thing is celebrities don't know what they sound like because they're, they're,
00:46:42.460 they're, they're so high on their own supply and they're in such a bubble that they don't
00:46:47.700 realize that that sounds gross or weird or you're insulting half the country or whatever
00:46:52.960 it is.
00:46:53.320 They, they don't care.
00:46:54.360 Well, right. 1.00
00:46:54.680 They're surrounded by people who tell them they're the best and laugh at all their shit 1.00
00:46:58.660 jokes and all of that. 1.00
00:47:00.040 Right.
00:47:00.160 We don't have that.
00:47:01.380 No, we thankfully not.
00:47:02.840 Not yet.
00:47:03.360 We're getting there.
00:47:04.000 We're working on it.
00:47:05.120 But, but the other thing is as well as, you know, I think we have seen quite a lot of
00:47:10.460 discrediting things come out of this town.
00:47:12.920 Oh, sure.
00:47:13.940 Yeah.
00:47:14.120 Whether it's me too and Harvey Weinstein, whether it's, you know, the PDD parties, you're kind
00:47:19.360 of looking at that going, I'm not sure you're really that elite.
00:47:21.480 Yeah, and there's definitely, it's, it's not only the Harvey Weinstein situation or the
00:47:31.480 PDD situation just sort of in a bubble, it's being lectured by these people over and over
00:47:40.000 and over again about our morality and how not to, it's being called a misogynist.
00:47:47.260 It's you, it's Hillary Clinton and whatever celebrity calling me a misogynist and then
00:47:56.360 hanging out with Harvey Weinstein at all the big, uh, all the big black tie fundraisers.
00:48:03.540 Right. 0.82
00:48:03.820 It's, it's the, it's the hypocrisy of it.
00:48:06.180 It's, it's, it's not just them engaging in the behavior.
00:48:10.620 It's them saying we're immoral, you know, it, cause that's the way we are as human beings.
00:48:16.240 If you say, I caught this guy and I opened the door and he was in the bedroom and he
00:48:24.320 was having sex with another guy, we'd go like, well, okay. 0.99
00:48:28.540 But if that guy was a priest who preached, you went to hell, if you lay down with a man 1.00
00:48:34.520 and you, you should lay down with a dog, if you walked in a room and saw that guy, you'd
00:48:39.180 have much different opinions.
00:48:40.480 Right.
00:48:40.980 And that's what Hollywood does. 0.99
00:48:42.360 They lecture us constantly, you know, they lecture us about global warming and then they
00:48:48.600 fly private everywhere and they have a 400 foot yacht.
00:48:51.780 They'd like to hang out with magic Johnson on and then come back and lecture us about
00:48:56.000 plastic straws or whatever they do. 0.97
00:48:58.540 The hypocrisy.
00:49:00.120 That's the thing that gets us. 0.99
00:49:02.500 That's what makes people angry that seeing the two guys having sex on your comforter.
00:49:07.840 It's like, ah, have it dry cleaned. 0.95
00:49:10.460 That's so California.
00:49:13.780 Seeing the preacher who was, he was wagging his finger at everyone about sexuality and
00:49:19.760 homosexuality. 0.78
00:49:20.640 Now you're angry. 0.54
00:49:22.080 And that's, that's what happened.
00:49:23.320 You know, and it's, it's, it's that.
00:49:25.800 And it's also the fact as well, look, it takes a lot of time, a lot of hard work, a lot
00:49:32.480 of effort to get really good at one thing.
00:49:36.160 And the reality is no one has the time to get good at everything.
00:49:40.260 Like take Robert Downey Jr.
00:49:41.880 I think one of the greatest actors of his generation, a brilliant actor, when he talks about his story
00:49:49.600 and addiction and recovery, I'm like, you're a hero.
00:49:52.320 When he talks about politics, I'm like, Robert, you don't know what you're banging on about.
00:49:57.000 And all it makes me think when you get together with your Avengers is I wish Thanos had won.
00:50:02.820 Do you know what I mean?
00:50:03.880 Yeah.
00:50:04.260 Well, you have to understand as well in Hollywood and, and the dynamic of Hollywood, which is
00:50:12.280 most anybody is replaceable in Hollywood.
00:50:18.640 We don't really need anybody.
00:50:21.100 And you'll hear it all the time when they'll go, you know, the original Indiana Jones was
00:50:28.240 going to be David Hasselhoff, but then he had to fill Knight Rider and then Harrison Ford.
00:50:33.620 If you go look like who was going to be the first Superman or who's Indiana Jones, I mean,
00:50:38.680 there's all these stories that Tom Selleck was supposed to be fill in the blank, you know,
00:50:43.300 and it happens.
00:50:44.180 So they're interchangeable.
00:50:46.420 They know it.
00:50:47.700 They're vulnerable.
00:50:48.560 Yeah, they're vulnerable and it, you don't, you know, there's a handful of people that
00:50:56.600 cannot be replaced.
00:50:59.700 You know, there's a handful of sort of Quentin Tarantinos or maybe like a Seth McFarlane or
00:51:05.380 something like that, but everyone else is in the mix.
00:51:09.240 We don't need you.
00:51:10.540 You know what I mean?
00:51:11.120 And then like you screw up and you get caught doing something and you just never work again.
00:51:19.920 That's how it is.
00:51:20.540 Even the whiff of impropriety or whatever, as we've seen with a lot of celebs, you're just
00:51:27.000 out.
00:51:27.780 So they're in a profession where they're vulnerable.
00:51:33.220 You know, when, when I was a carpenter, I was a good carpenter and trades guys who are good
00:51:42.580 at what they do.
00:51:43.580 Well, there's carpenters like they never feel vulnerable.
00:51:46.320 There's always work.
00:51:47.780 If you're a good carpenter, you just work.
00:51:49.500 You can say whatever you want.
00:51:51.020 You do what you want.
00:51:52.560 Like, like really?
00:51:53.640 You just come to work the next day and, and, and you have a skill and they need you and
00:51:59.060 you're aware of it too.
00:52:00.940 Um, Hollywood's very replaceable.
00:52:03.500 And so it can come down to fractions and tense, you know what I mean?
00:52:09.020 And all it would take is you being on the wrong side of one issue like COVID, COVID came
00:52:18.180 around every single person in Hollywood was on exactly the same page with COVID.
00:52:26.180 They all knew ivermectin didn't work, even though they'd never heard the name ivermectin
00:52:32.240 and they knew hydroxychloroquine didn't work, even though they'd never heard of hydroxychloroquine
00:52:39.060 and they all knew it came from a wet market and not from the left.
00:52:43.540 How did you get them all on the exact same page?
00:52:47.000 You, you, you would, if you were looking at it logically, you'd go, well, certainly
00:52:51.720 a percentage of them would go, well, I don't think it came from a wet market.
00:52:55.740 It probably came from the lab that was studying these kinds of viruses down the street.
00:52:59.600 And I don't know about ivermectin to ask your doctor.
00:53:02.600 That's his, that's up to you. 0.62
00:53:04.000 That's none of my business and that you would have rational, normal, you would have, when
00:53:10.700 the Superbowl comes around, half the people in Hollywood think saying I was rooting for
00:53:16.680 San Francisco and the other half is rooting for the Kansas City Chiefs.
00:53:19.580 Why?
00:53:19.920 They don't, there's nothing around that one.
00:53:21.820 You're not going to be thrown out for picking the Chiefs.
00:53:24.840 So they just split.
00:53:26.340 They split on everything.
00:53:27.780 And then something they can get thrown out comes around like COVID or an election and
00:53:33.140 they all get the exact same page.
00:53:36.140 Right.
00:53:36.360 I know the social, I actually have friends in Hollywood who didn't agree with the COVID
00:53:39.980 stuff and they kept very, very quiet about it because they had to.
00:53:42.780 Oh, they, they become, uh, Muranos, which are, I don't know, Jews in Spain at a certain time 0.93
00:53:49.340 that just couldn't come out as Jews.
00:53:50.980 They, you know, I mean, I would, I would be on sets and have guys like, uh, you know,
00:53:57.100 literally, I like what you're saying.
00:54:00.160 I keep saying what you're saying, but don't tell anyone I said that.
00:54:03.960 Oh yeah.
00:54:04.960 Oh, it's, it's very real.
00:54:07.000 Threaten everyone with the loss of livelihood and they'll, they'll get in line.
00:54:10.400 Especially when it's that far to fall, right?
00:54:13.080 When you're poor, you lose your job. 0.96
00:54:14.600 You're going to find another shitty job, but you're going to be just as poor. 0.98
00:54:17.460 Right. 0.93
00:54:17.620 But when you've got millions to lose, that's when it really feels, especially if you feel
00:54:22.400 like this is the only place that you can work.
00:54:25.660 Yeah.
00:54:26.020 It's millions to lose and, and it's pretty arbitrary.
00:54:30.960 You just get caught on a hot mic dropping an N-bomb and we'll never hear from you again. 0.55
00:54:37.360 It's that fast.
00:54:38.320 Now, if you're a welder, don't drop N-bombs, you're out. 1.00
00:54:44.440 But, you know, it's so interesting because the more that they've gone down this path,
00:54:50.060 the more politicized they've become, the more progressive their talking points have been
00:54:55.100 and the more woke or progressive their movies are, the more and more people just think,
00:55:03.920 I don't care.
00:55:05.120 I'm not going to watch it.
00:55:06.780 I'm not going to consume the content.
00:55:08.840 And the more you just see it just spiral downwards.
00:55:11.920 Yeah, well, what they did is they, they damaged their own franchise by the wokeness thing,
00:55:23.560 which they can't stop doing.
00:55:25.860 But for instance, the biggest event we have in this country is really the Super Bowl every year.
00:55:34.880 And everyone gathers and stops what they're doing to watch the Super Bowl.
00:55:39.780 And the reason they do that is it's a pure meritocracy.
00:55:44.380 There may be two black quarterbacks starting in the Super Bowl.
00:55:49.000 They could have two black coaches.
00:55:50.820 The defense on the Ravens could be 11 black guys.
00:55:56.060 That's the amount of number we have in American football.
00:55:59.680 It is all.
00:56:00.540 And no one ever questions any of it.
00:56:03.920 It's pure meritocracy.
00:56:05.460 And we love it.
00:56:07.420 The Oscars used to be the Super Bowl.
00:56:10.380 But we stopped caring.
00:56:12.440 And the reason we stopped caring is because they started mandating that at least, you know,
00:56:17.420 X amount of minority and disability films be nominated.
00:56:21.820 And then we started seeing, you know, what would happen is you'd go,
00:56:26.420 what film won best film this year?
00:56:28.600 Moonlight.
00:56:29.340 Oh, what was that about? 0.99
00:56:30.520 That was black guy, was gay. 0.99
00:56:32.620 And then you go, okay. 0.98
00:56:36.220 I get it.
00:56:37.600 I get it.
00:56:38.320 And it doesn't mean it wasn't the best film. 0.99
00:56:42.140 It really, what they did to themselves is when they started doing this DEI shit 0.98
00:56:46.700 and this, all this other stuff, it became like you'd see like a young black man walking 0.98
00:56:52.980 through the quad at Harvard and people go like, is he really here because he's that smart?
00:56:59.580 Or did they just pull him in here because they needed, he may belong and he may have had
00:57:06.140 the highest SAT scores in the land.
00:57:08.600 He might've been Thomas Sowell or Larry Elder.
00:57:10.180 Thomas Sowell or the new blackface of white supremacy, Larry Elder. 0.51
00:57:15.360 He may be, but you brought questions.
00:57:18.820 You brought, you made us question this thing.
00:57:21.280 And when you make us question, we lose interest fast.
00:57:26.180 And they took their franchises and they, they grafted all this stuff onto it.
00:57:32.980 And, and now literally I was with my son who at the time was probably 15 or 16 and he loves
00:57:42.360 films, he loves films.
00:57:43.260 And we were sitting around, uh, one night in our home theater, middle-class, middle-class.
00:57:50.700 I used to work at McDonald's and we're sitting at our home theater and we're just scanning
00:57:57.600 through movies to see new movies, movies I haven't heard.
00:58:00.660 And we come across this one, it was like a thriller horror movie and it's literally like
00:58:05.260 97% on Rotten Tomatoes.
00:58:07.780 And I was like, well, I've never heard of this film.
00:58:09.560 And we both look at each other, 97%.
00:58:12.380 That's, that's pretty damn good for a thriller.
00:58:15.100 And we watch it and it wasn't good.
00:58:19.320 It was okay.
00:58:20.620 You know, should have been 61% on Rotten Tomatoes.
00:58:22.860 We're like, what's it?
00:58:24.140 Well, it starred a black woman who was the hero who fought the thing and did the thing. 0.99
00:58:28.900 And at the end we're like, oh, we got burned.
00:58:31.440 Cause that's how we do it.
00:58:34.200 But it also made this 15 year old boy think, oh, they've rigged this system now.
00:58:39.180 And now I have to check, you know, because the critics are all progressive and they root
00:58:44.540 for this and the voters with the Oscar, the golden globes, but it's all become this big
00:58:51.420 DEI fest and it's ruined the franchise just as it would with the Superbowl.
00:58:57.040 If the quarterback was starting was white and we knew there was a much better black 1.00
00:59:01.780 player at quarterback, just standing on the sideline, it would hurt, it would hurt it.
00:59:06.520 And we would lose interest in it eventually, you know?
00:59:09.760 Oh, who's starting at quarterback.
00:59:11.780 Well, the guy who owns the team put his 41 year old son out there.
00:59:16.300 I'm not watching this, you know what I mean?
00:59:18.500 It would ruin it.
00:59:19.420 Yeah.
00:59:19.700 It's so would.
00:59:20.440 And then when you think about, to take the example of Denzel Washington, you got, you
00:59:25.280 remember when a Denzel film came out, I remember when Inside Man came out into the cinemas, me
00:59:31.100 and my mates were so excited that the new Denzel movie was coming out.
00:59:35.440 It was going to be a heist movie, even better.
00:59:37.780 And I saw that there was a young black British actor called Chiwetel Ejiofor, who's a magnificent
00:59:42.780 actor, by the way.
00:59:43.560 I've seen him in theater.
00:59:44.880 I've seen him in films.
00:59:46.280 I got really excited.
00:59:47.720 I was like, oh, who's this new guy?
00:59:49.100 No, I don't feel that way anymore.
00:59:52.320 And that's sad.
00:59:53.360 That's genuinely sad because we now question everything and we don't believe anything.
00:59:58.220 So when people come through who have got this luminescent talent, we don't give them the
01:00:03.700 props that we should do.
01:00:05.680 Agreed.
01:00:06.300 We're back to the black kid at Harvard. 0.97
01:00:09.040 Could be a genius, but we've decided he's only there because of the color of his skin. 0.95
01:00:13.880 And that's that's sad.
01:00:15.860 Yeah.
01:00:15.980 What they've done is they've diluted the currency.
01:00:18.320 Yes. 1.00
01:00:18.720 The coin was supposed to be pure gold and now it's 50 percent crap. 1.00
01:00:24.180 Yeah. 0.99
01:00:24.620 And now we don't trust the coin anymore.
01:00:26.680 Or maybe chocolate. 1.00
01:00:29.420 And American chocolate is shit. 1.00
01:00:31.900 Listen, I'm not defending it, but we invented the peanut butter cup, bitches. 1.00
01:00:37.220 So that's my trope card. 0.96
01:00:39.340 Adam, it's been it's always awesome talking to you, man.
01:00:41.860 We really appreciate your time.
01:00:43.080 Thank you so much for coming on the show.
01:00:44.420 We're going to ask you some of our supporters questions in a second.
01:00:47.260 But before we do, as you know, we always wrap up by asking what's the one thing we're not
01:00:51.760 talking about that we should be.
01:00:53.000 Before Adam answers a final question at the end of the interview, make sure to head over to our sub stack.
01:00:59.620 The link is in the description where you'll be able to see this.
01:01:03.820 How does it feel to change history, seeing as you started the longer form podcast from a spare room format of new media, which is now going to lead the media?
01:01:19.340 I think we're not talking about mental health in a way that we should be talking about it.
01:01:43.720 We're talking about feeling threatened and safe spaces and that kind of stuff.
01:01:48.520 We're not talking about mental health that comes from exertion and physical movement and tasks being performed.
01:01:59.140 And, you know, we have a lot of like I'm very go wash your own car.
01:02:03.060 It's Sunday.
01:02:03.780 The sun shining.
01:02:04.760 You got another.
01:02:05.400 And then you'll have someone go, no, call the guys to come.
01:02:08.560 They bring a van.
01:02:09.540 And I'm like, I'm not saying wash your own car because you can't afford to pay the guy in the detail van.
01:02:16.520 I'm saying do it.
01:02:18.000 Do it for you.
01:02:19.340 You know, go build a tree house with your son and daughter.
01:02:23.440 No, have the guys do that. 0.99
01:02:25.240 You know, I have a lot.
01:02:27.440 For me, I make plenty of money.
01:02:29.960 So when I announce I'm going to go down and wash the car, there'll always be some woman going, what are you doing? 1.00
01:02:36.120 You make $1,000 an hour.
01:02:39.080 Grub hub bringing food to the home.
01:02:42.700 You know what I mean?
01:02:43.120 Like people go, it's so much faster.
01:02:45.020 It's easier.
01:02:45.580 What do you want to do?
01:02:46.500 Waste all your time, you know, going to the market.
01:02:48.180 It's like these mundane tasks that our forefathers and grandfathers and grandparents and moms and dads performed kept them sane.
01:03:01.140 You know, not, I had a merchandise bag, a big bag.
01:03:06.600 I bring all my books.
01:03:07.560 I go do the show.
01:03:08.520 I sell the merch, right?
01:03:09.740 The thing blew out.
01:03:11.080 The zipper broke and the thing blew out, whatever.
01:03:14.100 It's this big thing.
01:03:14.920 Now I was like, you got to throw away the merch bag.
01:03:16.840 I said, I'm not throwing it away.
01:03:18.400 I'm fixed the merch bag.
01:03:20.000 Go get a new one.
01:03:21.040 Go to Amazon and throw this in, in, in what?
01:03:24.900 The heap.
01:03:25.560 You know what I mean?
01:03:26.540 It's not going to decompose for 7,000 years.
01:03:29.380 You know, I'm going to throw this in the garbage.
01:03:30.960 I said, no, I, I, I, I, I was a carpenter.
01:03:34.080 I went and got my tools out.
01:03:35.640 I got some stuff and we'll get into the details.
01:03:37.680 I fixed it.
01:03:38.540 And then I went out the next weekend with the merch bag and, and, and it felt good.
01:03:43.260 Like I felt like a, I didn't spend 110 bucks on a new merch bag.
01:03:46.840 B, I didn't put it in a landfill.
01:03:50.040 And C, I feel a sense of accomplishment from this very simple task.
01:03:56.360 We're pulling people away from this world.
01:03:59.360 We're telling kids, you know, get off the roof, get down here.
01:04:02.020 Don't do it.
01:04:02.580 Don't wrestle.
01:04:03.360 Don't scrap.
01:04:04.220 You know, don't, don't, everyone's on their screen.
01:04:07.360 And then we're going, you need medication because you got to deal with this thing you have that you got because you're not out hiking and engaging and building a fort and rolling around in the dirt.
01:04:21.020 We got to get people back to those tasks.
01:04:25.380 And the technology is pulling them away every day.
01:04:29.960 It's going, you don't have to do the stuff you had to do, you know, Grubhub and Uber and use your phone.
01:04:36.440 And you got Apple pay and everything else.
01:04:38.600 We need to get back to what I would just call diet and exercise, like basic, not ozempic, diet and exercise.
01:04:48.140 But you'll lose weight.
01:04:49.720 It's not about losing weight.
01:04:51.080 It's about the discipline of diet and exercise, which you don't get with the shot or the pill.
01:04:57.520 You know, you have to earn your sanity.
01:04:59.560 You can't just take a pill and expect to be sane.
01:05:02.740 You got to go out and break a sweat, come back, feel satisfied, make your kid breakfast, let the school do it.
01:05:10.720 No, no, you do it.
01:05:12.260 You do it for your kid, for you, for the engagement.
01:05:16.160 We're not talking about engagement.
01:05:18.920 We're not talking about simple tasks.
01:05:22.860 We're not talking about washing your own car.
01:05:27.020 Yeah.
01:05:27.400 You have to.
01:05:28.040 Sorry, go ahead.
01:05:28.500 Yeah, and I said, and also as well, the satisfaction that comes from within when you do a good job.
01:05:34.260 Like you cook a nice meal and everyone's like, you know what?
01:05:36.440 That was a great meal.
01:05:37.720 Right.
01:05:38.380 And that feels good.
01:05:39.540 Are you cooking tonight, mate?
01:05:40.540 No.
01:05:41.060 We're going to get someone else to do it, mate.
01:05:42.540 We made too much money.
01:05:45.840 You have to earn your sanity.
01:05:47.600 That is such a great point, Adam.
01:05:49.300 I've never said that before, but I would like to put it on a bumper sticker.
01:05:52.860 That's a lie.
01:05:53.760 Yeah.
01:05:54.000 And it's absolutely true.
01:05:55.700 We really appreciate you, Adam.
01:05:56.760 You're one of the OGs of this whole format.
01:05:59.680 It's really such a pleasure having you on the show every time.
01:06:03.120 By the way, you're about to interview us for your show.
01:06:05.960 We don't know when this will go out.
01:06:07.500 So if it's already out, go and make sure to check out our interview with Adam.
01:06:11.260 But for now, head on over to Substack to hear Adam answer your questions.
01:06:16.960 Maybe or maybe certain radio.
01:06:19.000 Fact-checked live on air.
01:06:20.300 Yeah, destroyed with facts and logic.
01:06:22.600 See you next week. 0.97
01:06:23.180 Stay nasty. 0.75
01:06:23.240 See you next week. 0.70
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