00:07:38.000And then I saw that tweet of hers where she was calling people fascist.
00:07:41.000And then I thought, oh, that's a sign of somebody who's losing and knows they're losing.
00:07:47.000The moment you start smearing people as fascist, that's the moment you've lost any type of argument or discussion.
00:07:53.000Well, also what I never really get and it doesn't seem effective is if you would like to make a case against somebody, you should do it.
00:08:05.000But when you paint in these very broad strokes, it kind of lands on deaf ears, you know, and it's a lot of it is a sort of a, has a feminine quality to it.
00:08:17.000You know, when you get into arguments with a woman, she'll go, you're the worst husband ever born.
00:08:24.000Listen, you live in 8,000 square feet.
00:11:15.000I think a segment and a portion of them will do some self assessment kind of thing.
00:11:23.000You know, it's like they just stepped on the scale and it said 350 pounds and a certain amount of them are going to step off the scale and go, I got to lose some weight.
00:11:34.000But another percentage are going to say, fuck this scale, which is how they work.
00:11:41.000So it's like all the scales Hitler or the scales Hitler.
00:12:53.000Seven plus black males out of 10 are going to vote for Kamala Harris, which is sounds pretty good if you're Kamala Harris, but it's not good enough for Barack Obama.
00:13:04.000He wants to find the 2.8 black men who aren't voting for Kamala Harris and yell at them.
00:13:09.000And it's like, well, maybe they own a small business and maybe they have different interests or priorities than you.
00:13:18.000But this whole thing is there's this unqualified mostly Indian woman over here who you black guys need to vote for because she's going to do because she's black or have black or something.
00:14:00.000And it's like maybe they like the message of this other person more than the message of the person they share a uterus with.
00:14:08.000But they can't wrap their mind around it because they're racist and every group should just vote with every group, which is a racist thought.
00:14:19.000You know, I always say my actual white privilege is not getting free stuff because I have a rich dad.
00:14:28.000My white privilege is looking at six foot two, 50 something year old, heterosexual Gavin Newsom, white guy, and going, I hate that douchebag.
00:15:01.000And I guess the second question, given the scale of the victories, are you hopeful that this is gonna, that Trump has an opportunity now to really actually deliver on the things that he promised?
00:15:13.000Because in the first term, he had to contend with a powerful media machine.
00:15:19.000He doesn't have that problem nearly as much now.
00:15:21.000He had to contend with a lot more opposition.
00:15:34.000I think the first time Trump came into office, he was naive.
00:15:40.000And not naive in a, in a way that any of us wouldn't have been.
00:15:47.000You know, he just sort of walked in and went, I've never done this before, so who should I surround myself with?
00:15:54.000And then, and he also, I think, had the misbelief that if he really did the right thing, that the New York Times and other outlets and the Manhattan elite would come around to him.
00:16:09.000Like, once they saw he was a good guy and trying to do what was best, they would warm up to him and move over.
00:16:16.000You know, they, they had to battle for Hillary Clinton, but now that the battle was over and they understood he wanted what was best for our country or opportunity zones for black men or he's gonna, you know, pardon the niece of Louis Armstrong who's in jail or something like that.
00:16:36.000He thought they would move over and warm up to him.
00:16:40.000He did not understand there was a fatwa that was declared and it was gonna keep getting worse, right?
00:16:45.000He also, I don't think, understood the circle of people who didn't want him there who were there.
00:16:51.000I mean, I've had jobs where I took over for Howard Stern on the West Coast some years ago.
00:17:00.000I didn't know the general manager and people at the radio station didn't want me there.
00:17:05.000And, and it's a weird thing, but it's sort of like your wife poisoning you slowly with your, in your cereal every morning.
00:17:13.000You're like, this, these oats taste weird.
00:19:02.000You know, it's so interesting how the left in this country have mirrored the left in our country.
00:19:08.000How they've abandoned ordinary working class blue collar concerns.
00:19:13.000They have moved over to progressive policies, progressive ideologies that most people don't care about because it doesn't affect their lives.
00:19:23.000It's like Bill Clinton said, it's the economy stupid.
00:19:26.000How could the Democrats have forgotten the words of possibly one of their best ever presidents?
00:19:34.000You know, it's called a progressive movement.
00:19:38.000And if you take progressive and movement, it means it just keeps going.
00:20:03.000Why shouldn't a gay couple be allowed to marry so they could have the same rights and privileges, you know, insurance and stuff, you know, whatever.
00:20:11.000And then people like us go, yeah, OK, that that that kind of makes sense.
00:20:18.000And it takes a little while and then they get it.
00:20:21.000And and then our head on it is, well, that's what they want.
00:20:26.000And they've been agitating a lot and give it to them and then we can move forward and we won't have to argue about this thing.
00:20:32.000And then they go, well, what's wrong with a little trans story hour, you know, and you go, what is that again?
00:20:41.000Well, that's the transvestite reading hop on pop to six year olds at the public library.
00:21:53.000Someone's being politically persecuted in Guatemala, like tortured by the federalis.
00:21:58.000Shouldn't they be able to come here and seek asylum?
00:22:01.000And you go, yeah, that sounds reasonable.
00:22:04.000I'd like to say that's that's the kind of nation we are.
00:22:06.000And the next thing you know, it just turns into migrants and illegals living in hotels in New York and being bussed in and everything else.
00:23:22.000So it's interesting, though, because I find this fascinating because, you know, I was in Australia earlier this year and they're not nearly as polarized as we are in the UK or as you are in the US here.
00:23:34.000So I was at this meeting where there was people from the left and right.
00:23:38.000And the first thing that the guy who was hosting had said is, you know, I I'm from this party.
00:23:59.000And in that case, if as long as Trump can deliver on the promises that he's made, they're going to be in the wilderness for decades if they double down or they're going to have to learn.
00:24:10.000And that to me is a fascinating thing.
00:24:12.000Yeah, I I mean, you know, it to be continued.
00:24:16.000I mean, I think it would be positive if they learned from this.
00:24:22.000I mean, the the reality is, is it's sort of like.
00:24:30.000There's a lot of people that want you to be vegetarian, but America loves ribs.
00:24:38.000And you can do all your impossible burgers and your Tofurky you want.
00:24:43.000But when it comes time to take a vote and what we're going to eat at this Super Bowl party ribs overwhelming majority and America, as much as they'd like to focus on abortion rights and trans rights and, you know, Hitler and whatever America's economy border, you know, foreign security, military.
00:25:12.000We're very ribs and you were meat and potatoes.
00:25:15.000We are because we're pragmatic at the at the end of the day.
00:25:20.000And the other stuff is kind of window dressing, you know, and, you know, we're in California.
00:25:27.000Gas is five fifty a gallon that affects everybody all the time and hits poor people the hardest, you know, abortion, trans game, whatever that that affects some people some of the time.
00:25:40.000But this is all the people all the time.
00:25:43.000So the Democrats are going to have to learn that they're going to have to give up the vegan ghost and move more toward the ribs.
00:25:51.000The problem is, is they're just going to end up doing what the Republicans do to try to get elected, which is going to seem weird.
00:26:00.000It's like Kamala Harris is like, I think we should build some of that border wall.
00:26:04.000It's like, OK, like all she was saying to try to win votes is stuff Republicans have been saying with like a dusting of human rights stuff over here.
00:27:31.000You know, it's like, all right, he just he's trying to get votes.
00:27:33.000You know, I don't know if he really believes it.
00:27:35.000I mean, I think part of the problem with the left, too, is is you have to be so lockstep with them on everything that there's really you cannot deviate from the path.
00:27:49.000And some of their stuff is is nutty and hard to go along with if you're sort of rational and sensible and reasonable.
00:27:57.000But I think a lot of people on the left had to go with it.
00:28:01.000I mean, how many politicians on the left or Democrats knew that January 6th wasn't a resurrection, wasn't a deadly insurrection?
00:28:15.000They had that. There's so many of them knew that none of them could say it was a bad ride.
00:28:21.000It was pretty ugly, but not really an insurrection.
00:28:24.000Did you hear anyone say that they have to go? They have to go.
00:28:28.000Yeah. And it's it's really interesting because when you talk to we know a lot of people who are voting Republican and always try and look at the other side.
00:28:37.000And I think, you know, they must have some good ideas and some policies.
00:28:40.000And I remember coming to L.A. in 2002 and coming back here 22 years later.
00:28:47.000And the downfall of L.A. and California in general has been awful to see.
00:28:53.000And you're going, well, why would anybody vote for you if you just want to make America into a bigger California?
00:29:01.000Yeah, I agree. It's like when Gavin Newsom was flirting with running for president or sort of we could tell what he was thinking about.
00:29:13.000I said, Gavin Newsom, he's like a guy who runs the world's shittiest taco stand going, I want to franchise.
00:29:23.000You know, it's like your tacos. Nobody likes him now. I want to get wild worldwide.
00:29:28.000And it's like you want to franchise this to the rest.
00:29:32.000Also, like, I don't think that Gavin Newsom understands that California is used as a sort of joke and a threat to the rest of the country.
00:29:42.000Like you want to end up like California. You know what I mean?
00:29:45.000It's like it's like if you had a older brother in juvenile hall when you're in high school.
00:29:50.000So you keep skipping school, son, you're going to end up with math. OK, like that's that's what California is.
00:29:57.000We're like this example of you don't want to end up like.
00:30:00.000Yeah. And I don't even know. To me, that's like the ultimate slap in the face, you know, like we and not only we willed ourself into this.
00:30:11.000We did. We weren't this. We we manifested this. We made ourselves this.
00:30:16.000And we're so dumb in California. We just had prop thirty five or thirty six or whatever it was. Right.
00:30:24.000So what we do is we go. You know, I want a proposition, you know, four years ago or however many years ago where we're going to make it a misdemeanor to shoplift anything under eight hundred and fifty dollars.
00:30:38.000And then it's bedlam and chaos. You know, I wouldn't smash and grabs.
00:30:42.000You know, everyone's just stealing everything. And we live with that for like four or five years.
00:30:47.000And then we go, I got another idea. Let's have a bill that says you can't do that anymore.
00:30:54.000And then we argue about it. And then that bill passes because the first bill was a horrible idea and caused all this.
00:31:02.000And we do this all the time or like we fix this problem, except for the people that voted on the people that instituted the first bill never get voted out.
00:31:13.000That's the kind of weird part. It's still it's California is like, oh, we hate all the policy, but we will never stop voting for the Democrats that are in charge of creating the policy.
00:31:24.000Why not? I you know, I think there is a.
00:31:30.000An allegiance in the Democratic Party that is.
00:31:37.000Runs deeper, I think, than the Republicans, I think.
00:31:44.000I think. I think by nature, Republicans are a little more pragmatic and in the sense that.
00:31:53.000If you, you know, black women vote overwhelmingly for Democrats.
00:32:47.000And Democrats, if I, as I don't even consider myself a conservative, but just as a sort of a pragmatic person, if the guy I voted for started doing a bunch of stuff that didn't work and I didn't agree with, I would vote for somebody else pretty, pretty quickly.
00:33:07.000They also, once you subscribe to this Hitlerian stuff, well, then you have to vote for that person because in L.A. we had Gavin Newsom running against Larry Elder.
00:33:27.000Now, the L.A. Times called Larry Elder the black face of white supremacy.
00:33:32.000So if you said one guy's a white supremacist or Hitlerian or in the Klan, that guy doesn't want to raise the price of a parking ticket by $10.
00:33:47.000But the other guy who's not in the Klan and not Hitler does, I would then, if I believe that, I would go, well, I don't want to raise the price of a parking ticket, but also I don't want to be led by Klansmen, so I will vote for this other guy.
00:34:03.120So what they do is they go, look, it's a shit show and nothing works and we're broke and homeless and it's a dumpster fire here, but our guy loves people.
00:34:14.240And the other guy who says he's going to fix all this stuff is a racist.
00:35:11.760I guess my question to you is just, is everyone in California mental?
00:35:15.060I think there's a fair bit of that because it does attract people who are a little pie in the sky.
00:35:27.640You know, we take the most mental of all the other neighboring states and invite them here to pursue their dreams that never come true.
00:35:39.520There's also an interesting phenomenon that I've sort of observed, which is people who were born and raised in Los Angeles and California are nearly as nutty as the ones who come here and do their impersonations of someone who lived in Hollywood or L.A.
00:36:04.060So as, um, as an example, um, I realized that the guys and kind of contemporary guys, you know, um, Mark Derrigo's attorney, dear friend lives, uh, born and bred here.
00:36:22.920Dr. Drew, dear friend, born and bred, California, Adam Kroll, born and bred here.
00:36:29.460Um, no tattoos, no earrings, no crazy thoughts, you know, not, you know, not, not ramming a Japanese whaler, you know, out on the coast.
00:36:41.820Like Mark and Drew and me are like three of the most, uh, dare I say normal guys out there.
00:36:49.420I see the people, I see these guys in Hollywood all the time.
00:36:53.720They come here from the sticks that I've worked with people from Brattleboro, Vermont, you know, and wherever deep, deep place.
00:37:03.120And then they come here and they get an earring and a tattoo and they go, they're doing an impersonation of what they think a Hollywood hipster or a Californian would be.
00:37:15.260And they go much harder in that direction than the people who are from here.
00:37:20.680The people, the guys I grew up with, blue collar dudes live in the Valley, not a, not, none of the woke, none of the woke.
00:37:29.980It's the people who come here and do their impersonation.
00:37:34.160Like, how would I act if I belonged in California?
00:37:37.940I know I dye my hair pink and I get really angry at, at, uh, Trump, you know, and that's, that's who they are.
00:37:45.880So it's comprised of a bunch of people who relocated and are doing their impersonation of someone from California.
00:37:54.100You know, I was reading an interview with John Bon Jovi.
00:37:56.840He was talking about living in Malibu and he said the reason that he left Malibu was because he felt completely disconnected from reality.
00:38:05.020And he said, number one, you can't be creative.
00:38:10.840He goes, but number two, it wasn't good for my kids because they thought this paradise was reality and it's not.
00:38:19.040Do you think this is just what happens when life just gets too easy when you wake up every day and it's sunny and it's the perfect breeze and you can go out and everybody's, you know, working in the arts.
00:38:30.700By the way, if people are watching or listening who haven't been to California, it's like that, like 300 days a year.
00:38:36.200Well, I moved to Malibu because I wanted to be disconnected from the creative process.
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01:01:03.820How does it feel to change history, seeing as you started the longer form podcast from a spare room format of new media, which is now going to lead the media?
01:01:19.340I think we're not talking about mental health in a way that we should be talking about it.
01:01:43.720We're talking about feeling threatened and safe spaces and that kind of stuff.
01:01:48.520We're not talking about mental health that comes from exertion and physical movement and tasks being performed.
01:01:59.140And, you know, we have a lot of like I'm very go wash your own car.
01:04:04.220You know, don't, don't, everyone's on their screen.
01:04:07.360And then we're going, you need medication because you got to deal with this thing you have that you got because you're not out hiking and engaging and building a fort and rolling around in the dirt.
01:04:21.020We got to get people back to those tasks.
01:04:25.380And the technology is pulling them away every day.
01:04:29.960It's going, you don't have to do the stuff you had to do, you know, Grubhub and Uber and use your phone.
01:04:36.440And you got Apple pay and everything else.
01:04:38.600We need to get back to what I would just call diet and exercise, like basic, not ozempic, diet and exercise.