TRIGGERnometry - The Truth about the Migrant Crisis - Patrick Christys

00:00:00.000 I almost think of it like a video game, you've got like ten boats, three get through type of thing, but...

00:00:06.160 They're all going through.

00:00:07.060 But that's my point.

00:00:08.560 Does this make any sense to you, Patrick?

00:00:09.880 No. 1.00

00:00:10.920 Let's be honest, Patrick, this is f***ing pathetic. 1.00

00:00:14.120 It pisses me off. It brings me to the verge of tears. 1.00

00:00:16.940 How much are we spending on this?

00:00:18.220 Yeah, well, an astronomical amount of money, but between something like 8 billion quid a year on the migrant hotels or 6 billion quid a year.

00:00:24.640 The British public are being asked to put up with a hell of a lot here.

00:00:27.100 We are being asked to take on a huge personal safety risk.

00:00:32.380 His idea was that the way you deal with this problem, you smash the gangs.

00:00:36.520 How are we doing on smashing the gangs?

00:00:37.760 Oh, we're not smashing any gangs. So that's good.

00:00:40.900 What do you think it actually says about us as a country?

00:00:45.840 Patrick, welcome to the show.

00:00:47.400 Thank you.

00:00:47.800 I've been meaning to have you on for a while, but you've been doing some really, really good investigative journalism,

00:00:53.100 which has been great to see on an issue that a lot of people talk about,

00:00:56.500 but you've actually gone and done some proper looking into things, showing things about illegal immigration and the nature of that problem.

00:01:05.460 Talk to us about what you found.

00:01:06.960 Yeah, gosh. Well, I mean, where to start, really?

00:01:09.160 First thing I would say is how easy it was.

00:01:11.060 I mean, genuinely just go there and you'll see the sheer scale of the problem.

00:01:17.020 So the scale of it is the first thing.

00:01:19.080 The lack of action by the French is another, and we'll get into this, no doubt.

00:01:22.780 But, for example, where the biggest camp near Calais is, there's a huge camp, and then there's a little bit of a field, and then there's a beach.

00:01:30.040 And for the half a billion quid we've sent the French, they've not even put a fence up. 0.98

00:01:32.840 So that's a slight issue.

00:01:34.460 So there's that.

00:01:35.620 There's also the type of person who's coming across.

00:01:39.520 We now, I think, rightly, openly laugh at people who say, well, it's all poor women and children.

00:01:44.140 Well, there are some women and children, and clearly, I don't like seeing them getting into boats and taking a dangerous journey across the busiest shipping lane in the world.

00:01:51.240 Nobody does.

00:01:52.180 But the absolute stone-cold reality of the situation is that the overwhelming majority of these people are young men.

00:02:00.740 And it's not just about where they're coming from.

00:02:04.260 It's the fact that they have all, by definition, travelled through numerous different other countries and, for whatever reason, been unable to make a lie for themselves there.

00:02:12.540 Some of them undoubtedly through criminality.

00:02:15.220 Some of them potentially through choice.

00:02:17.480 Most of them through a lack of opportunity in any of those countries.

00:02:20.180 And what that means, if you take it to its natural conclusion, is the calibre of person that we are now getting across an English Channel is very, very low.

00:02:29.440 It's very, very low.

00:02:30.380 Because a lot of people, if you are a genuine doctor or engineer, there is a very good chance that you would have been able to have found a lie for yourself in one of these other countries.

00:02:39.520 And I don't particularly necessarily like using this term of language.

00:02:42.660 But we are, in a sense, I think, in many cases, getting the dregs of the migrant crisis problem.

00:02:48.200 Hmm. Well, that would make sense in many ways, because, as you say, people who are qualified to do a skilled job would find themselves a job somewhere else.

00:02:57.820 And also, a lot of those people might be entitled to come here legally because we do need the doctors and the nurses and the whatever who can come in if they make an application.

00:03:07.480 So, but it sort of makes a lot of sense that people who are coming illegally are doing so because actually we don't want people like that to come.

00:03:15.200 Yeah, 100 percent.

00:03:16.360 That's the reality of it.

00:03:18.640 A lot of them, when you actually go and talk to them in person, so whether it's at them just wandering around the streets or it's in the camps or it's in one of the big warehouses that I went to where people are looking more to try to get into the lorry park side of it,

00:03:32.440 which I don't think gets enough attention, actually, the illegal lorry crossings.

00:03:36.220 When you actually talk to them in unguarded moments, they're not particularly fussed about the idea that they're fleeing war and persecution or that they are actually persecuted Christians in a country or that they're gay or all of this stuff.

00:03:47.920 They are quite open about the fact that they want to come to Britain for a house and for money and because we've got a generous benefit system and they think that there is very little chance of them being deported in Britain.

00:03:57.620 So they actually say this stuff to you and there's been a couple of quite massive clips that I did off that.

00:04:02.940 I was a Sudanese man who was just saying, well, give me a house and give me this and give me that.

00:04:07.360 And that is the general kind of attitude is when they get here and maybe get into contact with certain lawyers or certain charity groups that you start to get these yarns about the level of persecution they might face back home,

00:04:22.260 the trauma that they might have felt en route and various different incredibly spurious reasons in some cases to why they could never be returned home.

00:04:30.820 They're not saying that stuff in these camps.

00:04:33.440 And when they're walking down the street, they weren't saying that to me and they would have had the perfect opportunity to do so.

00:04:38.920 I mean, one chap was an Eritrean man who says he's left his wife in Eritrea.

00:04:43.920 So I said, well, why if it was a war zone?

00:04:47.040 He did make some vague reference about it being a war zone, couldn't explain why he'd left his wife there.

00:04:51.200 And then I said, how are you continually trying to afford the boats?

00:04:54.640 But his mum and dad who are in Eritrea are sending him the money for it.

00:04:57.720 So there's a few things that don't quite add up, really, about them being desperately poverty stricken, in constant plight in their home country.

00:05:07.320 I mean, if it's safe enough to leave your parents and your wife over there and your parents are funding your journey continuously,

00:05:15.300 it doesn't quite add up to me, this idea they're all that poor and desperate.

00:05:18.480 Patrick, I think it's worth you outlining how the system actually works, because a lot of these guys,

00:05:26.440 they don't just come from one particular, through one particular country.

00:05:29.600 It's six or seven, they go through Austria.

00:05:32.120 One person in particular was talking about going through Austria, Hungary, all of these types of countries.

00:05:38.160 So how does the system actually work?

00:05:40.940 And also explain about the criminality involved in it, because I think that's a key part of it as well.

00:05:45.860 Yeah, absolutely. OK, so it depends where on the earth you start out, clearly.

00:05:50.080 But it's very easy to travel through parts of Africa in the Middle East initially.

00:05:53.580 So they'll find people that can get them through there. I think everyone accepts that.

00:05:56.540 But then when you get into Europe, there's various different routes.

00:05:58.620 So you can either get a boat from parts of Africa to islands like Lampedusa, for example,

00:06:03.120 where we've seen huge numbers of almost entirely African migrants coming there.

00:06:08.200 Then you're in the European Union.

00:06:09.780 What they used to do as well was there was a big route that took you through Morocco.

00:06:13.360 And there's two Spanish enclaves in Morocco.

00:06:15.400 One of them is called Ceuta. I can't quite remember the name of the other one now.

00:06:18.460 I think it begins with an M.

00:06:19.480 But once you can get into those, you're then in the EU again there.

00:06:23.300 So they never had to cross the Strait of Gibraltar.

00:06:25.400 From there, they would be divvied up.

00:06:27.280 And some of the other routes, of course, are, like you mentioned there,

00:06:29.760 to kind of just go continuously by land through various different countries.

00:06:32.940 So some of the Balkan states.

00:06:34.620 And then you're in.

00:06:37.340 Patrick, just pause right there. Sorry to interrupt.

00:06:40.320 OK, I've made it to Lampedusa.

00:06:41.860 But why does that mean I now get to go to Austria?

00:06:45.380 Well, because that's basically what the European Union rules are, really.

00:06:47.700 So they don't seem to be processing you there and then at any risk of deportation.

00:06:51.620 So then as part of some kind of EU-wide scheme, etc.,

00:06:55.560 they will then divv you out to various...

00:06:58.040 So once you've made landfall in the EU, that's your sword?

00:07:01.800 Pretty much, yeah.

00:07:03.260 Once you have kissed European soil, 0.83

00:07:06.160 there is very, very little chance of you being removed to your home country.

00:07:11.400 And you also have to look at the psychology of those frontier European countries.

00:07:15.320 So whether that's Greece, in the case of Lampedusa, Italy, or some of the Balkan states.

00:07:20.100 If they know that it's going to be very difficult to get you out of there

00:07:22.880 or you're just going to keep coming back,

00:07:24.680 then in their minds, they'll just move you on through, won't they?

00:07:27.300 So it's not in their interest or their incentive to try to keep you or to house you there.

00:07:31.700 As far as they're concerned, they're very, very happy to see you move on through.

00:07:34.480 But in terms of the ease with which you can get in touch with human traffickers

00:07:38.660 and people smugglers, that's all, almost all, done through social media.

00:07:43.700 So TikTok, really, predominantly.

00:07:45.800 And it's incredibly easy. Incredibly easy.

00:07:49.180 So you will be able to, in seconds, find on TikTok,

00:07:53.340 depending on where you're located around Europe,

00:07:55.680 in the case of the ones I've been looking into, they're in France,

00:07:58.720 you'll be able to find their accounts on TikTok,

00:08:01.120 advertising crossings, advertising, all sorts of stuff.

00:08:04.960 You will then start contacting them just through direct messenger on TikTok.

00:08:08.660 You'll then progress very quickly to WhatsApp.

00:08:10.940 And then on WhatsApp, they'll give you pin locations of where to go

00:08:14.100 and a price, really, of how much it's going to cost for you

00:08:17.400 to then meet up with that person.

00:08:19.740 And then in the case of France, obviously, get on a boat. 0.72

00:08:21.940 If you're further down the line, get on a lorry.

00:08:24.400 And then they will facilitate that for you.

00:08:27.300 And it's entirely done on social media.

00:08:29.040 And the social media companies have a huge amount to answer for here

00:08:31.760 because it is unbelievably easy to do that.

00:08:35.540 The other, I think, aspect to your question that you said was about,

00:08:37.880 was it about the violence or things like that?

00:08:39.880 Criminality.

00:08:40.180 Well, the criminality involved.

00:08:41.520 Well, the criminality involved is something that I find absolutely staggering.

00:08:45.700 So they recently, very recently, we found a human trafficker

00:08:51.260 who on their stories on both TikTok and on WhatsApp, their stories,

00:08:56.240 they were posting pictures of what appeared to be an AR-15 rifle,

00:09:00.000 semi-automatic rifle, the rifle that's probably shots of prominence

00:09:03.320 a little bit more because of things like school shootings in America,

00:09:05.760 I think the Las Vegas shooting as well, that level of weaponry.

00:09:10.180 And that person who the day before had been giving us locations

00:09:13.600 to go here, meet me here, left his voice notes, we had his voice,

00:09:17.720 we can get you across the channel, is posting pictures of themselves

00:09:20.520 with assault weapons.

00:09:22.580 So they are on, they're tooled up.

00:09:26.380 The other aspects of criminality about it, I would say,

00:09:29.640 that I'm very concerned of and I think that more people

00:09:33.000 should be concerned about is the potential extreme Islamist threat to it.

00:09:39.080 So, again, there's another clip that I'm probably going to end up playing

00:09:43.100 on my show tonight, I don't know when this show airs,

00:09:44.700 it probably would have gone out by then, but of a human trafficker

00:09:48.400 who was posting the usual videos of people in boats,

00:09:51.860 showing their clientele how easy it is and how readily they can get them

00:09:54.780 across the channel.

00:09:55.780 And then in amongst that emerges the black flag of ISIS

00:09:59.100 with ISIS execution videos, people being shot in the back of the head,

00:10:03.680 battlefield footage from what appears to be parts of the world,

00:10:06.180 like Syria, for example, when ISIS were in their pomp,

00:10:09.200 with music playing in the background.

00:10:10.960 And then you're back again to the videos of people crossing

00:10:14.480 the English Channel.

00:10:15.960 So this is the kind of person who, in many cases,

00:10:19.260 is running this operation.

00:10:20.800 There's numerous different nationalities involved.

00:10:22.760 There's a lot of Kurds.

00:10:24.540 There are a lot of people who are Iraqis and Iranians,

00:10:26.820 but there's also a lot of Albanians, and they are still at it.

00:10:30.360 Although, with the Albanians, there's a slightly more grey area 1.00

00:10:33.160 about where they stand on that spectrum,

00:10:34.680 because there is a sizable Muslim population in Albania,

00:10:38.400 and from what I can tell from their videos,

00:10:41.780 they do appear to be both armed, and in the case of the ISIS stuff,

00:10:47.080 so on their things they've got Albanian flags as well.

00:10:50.600 So I would suggest that they are also quite militant

00:10:54.500 when it comes to the old Islam stuff.

00:10:55.860 You know, it's also really interesting as well,

00:10:58.820 because in part of the documentary,

00:11:00.640 and I advise everyone to go and watch it,

00:11:02.080 it's really illuminating, and obviously horrifying

00:11:04.340 at the same time.

00:11:05.520 But you had a phone call, one of these people traffickers,

00:11:08.700 and you showed how easy it was to get a job illegally

00:11:12.400 in London in literally a matter of minutes.

00:11:16.120 100%.

00:11:16.520 So we decided that we were communicating with this human trafficker quite easily,

00:11:24.300 and we thought, well, it might make sense to see if they can not only sort us out

00:11:29.180 with the trip across the channel, but also a bit of work when we get here.

00:11:32.700 Because the story started to break about Deliveroo, and Uber Eats, and Just Eat,

00:11:36.820 and they're operating out of migrant hotels,

00:11:38.900 and your delivery drivers are not even the saviour, all of that.

00:11:42.680 So we thought, OK, well, hang on a minute, how easy is it really?

00:11:45.320 And it turns out, within 10 minutes of us messaging our people traffickers friend

00:11:51.780 and asking for a job, he'd given us two British phone numbers of people.

00:11:56.420 One of them then preemptively got in touch with us,

00:11:58.520 so he'd obviously passed our number on to him.

00:11:59.980 He said, I've got work for you.

00:12:02.780 He said delivery and things like that.

00:12:04.980 So, I mean, that could be anything from, I suppose, drugs or food, couldn't it, really?

00:12:08.300 But that was straight away, plus voice notes,

00:12:11.680 and one of them was definitely based in the London area as well.

00:12:16.180 So there is a network here.

00:12:18.960 And one thing that I find incredibly frustrating was that it would seem quite obvious to me,

00:12:24.200 and maybe people watching and listening to this as well,

00:12:26.220 that if you've got a human trafficker who can get people across the border very easily,

00:12:31.380 and then he's got contacts over here that sort people up with work,

00:12:34.820 I would suggest that's part of an organised gang, right?

00:12:38.540 That would seem to me to be the obvious thing.

00:12:41.080 And then when you hand all of that information over, including phone numbers,

00:12:44.920 and in some cases locations of where they say they're going to be and when they're going to be there,

00:12:48.580 and voice notes to the authorities,

00:12:52.000 I would have thought that they might act on that,

00:12:55.660 especially given that some of that is categorically and demonstrably taking place in Britain.

00:13:01.320 I have some sympathy for some of the authorities where they say,

00:13:04.580 well, this is in France, isn't it?

00:13:06.180 I do have some sympathy for them for that, to an extent,

00:13:09.260 because what do we do?

00:13:11.400 Send the SAS in?

00:13:12.380 I mean, I might be quite inclined to say at times I think we should,

00:13:14.780 especially if the guy's tooled up and maybe supports ISIS.

00:13:17.300 Like, sure, we can do that.

00:13:18.760 But they might say that's out of their jurisdiction,

00:13:22.420 but I don't see how...

00:13:24.580 Surely the excuse they would need to crack that gang is that it's proof of some operation in Britain.

00:13:29.040 But it was mind-boggling because you reported them to the National Crime Agency,

00:13:34.420 and you would think this is something that the National Crime Agency would be all over.

00:13:41.860 But then they just kicked it out.

00:13:43.840 They just weren't interested, were they?

00:13:45.300 So what they will say, in fact, they do say it quite strongly,

00:13:48.540 is that we don't know the half of what they're doing,

00:13:51.220 and they are doing all sorts behind the scenes, and they really are on it.

00:13:55.060 OK, fine.

00:13:56.460 We'll have to say...

00:13:57.180 There's only so much I can do with that.

00:13:59.240 I have to kind of assume that they are.

00:14:01.980 I was very disappointed with some of the responses that we got from them on this stuff,

00:14:05.460 and being honest, it didn't seem to me as though they were in a massive rush with it.

00:14:10.560 I also think the thing that they are underestimating is the level of public dissatisfaction with this.

00:14:15.900 So whilst they might be doing all of this great stuff behind the scenes,

00:14:19.100 I would have thought if they were smashing gangs every week, they'd be telling us about it,

00:14:23.460 because they'd want us to know.

00:14:24.640 They'd want me to be reporting that, and I would happily report.

00:14:27.320 I'd love to report that.

00:14:28.580 I'd love to go on air, you know, 9pm or 10pm, whatever, and be able to serve up.

00:14:33.880 You know what?

00:14:34.400 Look at this.

00:14:34.960 They've just smashed these gangs today.

00:14:36.640 They've done that.

00:14:37.380 Well, we're not getting any of that.

00:14:38.700 So that implies to me that maybe they're not really doing it.

00:14:41.700 And when you have something very public, like it goes out on my show,

00:14:46.340 three or four nights in succession with all of this information,

00:14:49.580 if I was at a national crime agency, I would have thought,

00:14:51.960 look, even if it's just to shut me up, we're going to at least take this guy's TikTok down,

00:14:58.200 or we're going to be seeing you.

00:15:00.340 We're going to kick someone's front door in, and we're going to do that,

00:15:03.400 or we're going to have a word with the French. 0.52

00:15:04.480 We're going to show something that this guy just shuts me up.

00:15:07.820 And they didn't really seem to do that.

00:15:11.280 And when it comes to things like the ISIS stuff, or when it comes to things like weaponry, etc.,

00:15:19.380 I would suggest that that's a national emergency.

00:15:21.400 The other thing about it is, of course, with everything that's been going on in Iran recently,

00:15:24.620 we have had reports through from the intelligence services in Britain

00:15:28.060 that the Iranian regime have been utilising the small boats crisis

00:15:30.680 as a way of planting sleeper cells here in Britain.

00:15:33.220 I'm inclined to, I mean, why wouldn't you?

00:15:34.700 I suppose if you were the Iranians, you probably would. 1.00

00:15:37.960 So, again, that was another thing that I thought would give them a bit of a rocket,

00:15:41.640 because as I was revealing all of this stuff, the Iran situation was flaring up again.

00:15:45.720 So it was on people's minds.

00:15:47.540 We were quite scared.

00:15:48.660 And I couldn't really live with myself if someone had presented me with this information,

00:15:54.600 and I was in a position to act,

00:15:55.980 and then one nutter with an AK-47 came across the channel and slaughtered everyone on a border force boat,

00:16:03.620 or managed somehow to bring it into Dover and kicked off there, 0.91

00:16:06.280 or did it at a migrant hotel, or whatever.

00:16:09.740 They didn't seem, in my view, to care as much about this issue

00:16:15.020 as I think the vast majority of ordinary people in Britain do.

00:16:19.700 Why do you think that is?

00:16:20.420 And maybe it is because they're doing a lot that we don't know about.

00:16:24.260 So maybe they see this stuff every single day and all day and stop most of it.

00:16:28.500 OK?

00:16:28.920 I don't think it is that, personally.

00:16:31.100 I think they realise that the problem is too big for them to deal with,

00:16:35.920 and I think that they don't really want it getting out there.

00:16:40.400 The other aspect to it, which is really depressing, if this is true,

00:16:45.000 and I hope it isn't true, is that they just don't care massively.

00:16:48.260 Well, see, the reason I'm asking you this is, like,

00:16:50.900 when you say there's too much of it going on and they can't cope,

00:16:54.160 I almost think of it like a video game.

00:16:56.020 You've got, like, ten boats, three get through type of thing.

00:16:58.220 But...

00:16:58.860 They're all going through.

00:17:00.140 But that's my point, all right?

00:17:02.800 There's actually no...

00:17:04.400 There's no action being taken on it.

00:17:06.840 But as I understand it, once you get on a boat in France,

00:17:10.640 you're basically going to get to England.

00:17:11.860 You don't even have to get into the Channel.

00:17:13.280 You can get into some of the river networks,

00:17:16.520 and because you're technically in the water,

00:17:18.740 if the French decide not to, they don't really have to stop you.

00:17:20.960 So you could get in a boat.

00:17:22.240 The boat that, when I went to Calais,

00:17:23.600 one of the boats that I found in the water,

00:17:25.820 there didn't have many people on it,

00:17:26.580 but was ready to go, had the fuel in it and all of that stuff,

00:17:29.000 was two miles inland on a river network.

00:17:32.740 So, in theory, if, like, 60 blokes...

00:17:36.840 from wherever in the world they've come from, 0.61

00:17:39.300 boarded that boat, started the motor,

00:17:41.440 and started making their way down that canal system,

00:17:44.020 the French might decide just not to stop them 0.99

00:17:46.160 because they're in the water.

00:17:47.260 So you don't even have to get in the Channel, really.

00:17:49.840 So, when you say the National Crime Agency

00:17:52.940 and other British authorities,

00:17:54.740 they've got too much to deal with.

00:17:57.340 I don't understand what that means.

00:17:59.240 What does that mean?

00:18:00.620 Like, what is the too much that they've got to deal with?

00:18:03.420 Because what I'm seeing,

00:18:04.640 correct me if this is wrong, please,

00:18:06.520 is, basically, if you get on a boat in France,

00:18:09.680 you're going to make it to England,

00:18:10.700 and when you get here,

00:18:11.840 you're going to get...

00:18:13.320 Either you're going to just be allowed

00:18:14.420 to walk into the country,

00:18:15.580 or you're going to get taken to a hotel

00:18:18.000 where the taxpayer's going to put you up, right?

00:18:20.040 Yeah, and until you decide to abscond,

00:18:21.580 in which case you just can do that.

00:18:22.640 Right.

00:18:23.240 So what is it that they've got too much to deal with?

00:18:25.700 Yeah, I mean, they might make the case,

00:18:27.500 I imagine they would,

00:18:28.420 that they are not just dealing with the migrant crisis.

00:18:31.420 The National Crime Agency, I think,

00:18:32.640 deals with things like paedophile rings,

00:18:34.080 it will deal with things like drugs,

00:18:36.420 trade, and whatever else they've got.

00:18:38.380 So I do have some sympathy for them for that.

00:18:40.880 What I don't have sympathy with is the system.

00:18:43.980 If we know that they are being swamped,

00:18:46.780 and that they genuinely can't deal with it,

00:18:48.620 and that they're also helping out with things

00:18:50.620 like cracking paedophile rings,

00:18:52.240 and drugs, gangs,

00:18:52.840 and, I don't know, maybe terrorists in some cases,

00:18:54.880 and everything that we've already got here,

00:18:56.880 and they absolutely can't deal with the fact

00:18:59.020 that if a journalist presents them

00:19:00.680 with a bloke with an assault rifle,

00:19:02.700 ISIS beheading videos, 0.91

00:19:04.420 locations where they can't handle that,

00:19:06.460 then they need more manpower, don't they?

00:19:08.460 They absolutely need more manpower.

00:19:10.400 And if we're not getting that for them,

00:19:12.240 then I think that's a real crying show.

00:19:14.580 This is a ticking time bomb.

00:19:16.100 Well, right.

00:19:16.820 But the thing is,

00:19:18.340 how much manpower can you give

00:19:22.220 to solve a problem you're not trying to solve?

00:19:24.860 Do you see what I mean?

00:19:25.840 It's like if some boats were being sent back

00:19:29.080 because our authorities were dealing with them,

00:19:31.640 then you go, you need more manpower.

00:19:33.560 When no attempt is being made to stop

00:19:35.300 and turn them around and return them to France, 0.67

00:19:37.180 that is not a manpower issue.

00:19:39.040 There's no accountability to the French. 0.99

00:19:40.940 This is the thing.

00:19:41.540 Like I said to you before,

00:19:42.480 about that whopping great big migrant gang, 1.00

00:19:44.760 gang, sorry, camp there,

00:19:47.840 with a beach right next to it

00:19:49.320 where boats set off,

00:19:50.620 and not even a fence.

00:19:52.060 We've sent the French half a billion quid.

00:19:53.620 Not even put a fence up.

00:19:56.320 The French will do precious little. 1.00

00:19:58.280 And part of me can understand it.

00:19:59.600 I mean, if I was French,

00:20:00.420 I'd be quite inclined to get them out of Calais quite quickly.

00:20:02.880 So, you know, we are being taken for mugs.

00:20:05.420 The other aspect, of course, is that,

00:20:08.220 well, so they're not holding them to account.

00:20:09.960 So there's no one.

00:20:11.000 If I was our dear leader, Sir Kistama,

00:20:14.160 I would be inclined to go and pay a visit

00:20:16.560 to Calais and Dunkirk and those places

00:20:18.240 and have a walk around

00:20:19.800 and raise serious questions

00:20:21.720 about what it is they're doing.

00:20:23.620 And the lack of action that they're doing.

00:20:25.040 So, for example,

00:20:25.820 we spent a few million quid,

00:20:28.500 we gave to the French,

00:20:29.580 to set up state-of-the-art security cameras

00:20:32.340 around the beaches,

00:20:32.980 which even had things like night vision

00:20:34.480 and all of that.

00:20:35.940 And the French just didn't bother to turn them on. 1.00

00:20:38.020 So they've had them,

00:20:39.000 and they didn't bother to turn them on.

00:20:39.980 So many jokes about the French.

00:20:41.700 Well, yeah, yeah.

00:20:42.520 But there's all of this stuff,

00:20:44.180 and we are not holding them to account.

00:20:46.380 And we do have leverage over the French.

00:20:48.240 We do.

00:20:48.620 You know, they want unbridled access

00:20:50.760 to our fishing waters,

00:20:52.040 which we've just given them

00:20:52.920 for the best part of 12 years,

00:20:54.100 as far as I can tell.

00:20:55.020 Well, why did we do that

00:20:56.220 when there's nothing

00:20:57.040 that we're getting back in return?

00:20:58.480 You know, there's also, I think,

00:20:59.940 a level of embarrassment

00:21:00.780 that we could be inflicting on them.

00:21:02.040 There's negative PR

00:21:03.060 that we could be doing in these camps.

00:21:04.820 Why can't we send people, 0.98

00:21:06.060 or pay people even,

00:21:07.840 who are maybe failed asylum seekers

00:21:09.780 or come up with something here,

00:21:11.240 to go to these camps

00:21:12.340 to tell people

00:21:13.000 that England is not a land of milk and honey,

00:21:15.080 that they're going to end up

00:21:15.780 living on a roundabout

00:21:16.700 somewhere in Paddington,

00:21:17.640 which has happened.

00:21:18.440 The irony is,

00:21:19.100 right next to the GB News studios,

00:21:20.520 there was an illegal migrant roundabout

00:21:22.100 just within spitting distance

00:21:23.380 of where the studios are

00:21:24.380 for absolutely ages.

00:21:25.480 You could see it there.

00:21:26.680 You know, tell these people

00:21:27.700 some of these horror stories

00:21:28.660 because they all think

00:21:30.120 in these camps

00:21:30.780 that you get whatever you want in Britain.

00:21:33.840 The depressing thing is,

00:21:34.800 at the moment,

00:21:35.540 they're right about a lot of that.

00:21:36.880 You do get a lot of stuff.

00:21:38.060 But we should be doing that.

00:21:40.140 I think the National Crime Agency

00:21:41.400 probably also feel a bit let down

00:21:43.000 by our political leaders,

00:21:45.420 I think,

00:21:45.880 which is that

00:21:46.560 we're not deporting anyone anyway,

00:21:48.540 are we?

00:21:48.720 We are resolutely unwilling

00:21:51.800 to do anything

00:21:53.320 that might in any way

00:21:54.560 be seen to deviate

00:21:55.280 from this international law

00:21:56.700 situation that we've got.

00:21:58.740 So the National Crime Agency

00:22:00.120 probably feel as though,

00:22:01.160 like,

00:22:01.480 maybe what's the point?

00:22:03.520 Yeah.

00:22:04.140 What's the point?

00:22:05.460 And also,

00:22:06.380 perhaps for legal reasons,

00:22:07.900 they can't actually

00:22:08.500 turn their boats around.

00:22:09.380 That seems to be the case as well,

00:22:10.680 right?

00:22:11.340 Annoyingly,

00:22:11.840 although I would like

00:22:12.520 to see that tested.

00:22:14.240 You see,

00:22:14.440 again,

00:22:14.740 this is a thing.

00:22:15.860 We keep being told

00:22:16.840 that we can't turn the boats around.

00:22:18.460 One of the reasons why,

00:22:20.100 apparently,

00:22:20.420 we can't turn the boats around

00:22:21.440 is because Priti Patel,

00:22:22.840 when she was Home Secretary

00:22:23.700 years ago,

00:22:24.280 wanted to do it.

00:22:25.540 And I think

00:22:26.100 Care for Calais 0.98

00:22:27.140 and another group

00:22:28.540 took them to court.

00:22:30.260 And it was decided

00:22:31.060 that that would be

00:22:32.180 illegal.

00:22:34.680 Well,

00:22:35.140 I would like to see

00:22:35.940 that tested,

00:22:36.600 really,

00:22:37.040 because there must be

00:22:37.920 some grounds

00:22:38.680 in which

00:22:39.320 a democratically elected

00:22:40.300 government

00:22:40.680 can stop their country 0.72

00:22:41.660 being invaded.

00:22:43.000 There has to be.

00:22:44.240 If we live in a world

00:22:45.720 where

00:22:46.720 boatloads and boatloads

00:22:48.740 and boatloads

00:22:49.320 of illegal men,

00:22:49.920 some of whom,

00:22:51.100 for all we know,

00:22:52.320 might be actual terrorists,

00:22:54.320 and I think there's good reason

00:22:55.280 to suggest that some of them are.

00:22:56.580 In fact,

00:22:56.780 some of them have been.

00:22:57.700 So,

00:22:58.400 if we can't turn boats back

00:23:01.360 under those situations

00:23:02.240 and say,

00:23:02.720 I'm sorry,

00:23:03.120 this is an urgent matter

00:23:05.140 of national security,

00:23:06.060 well,

00:23:06.160 then we might as well

00:23:06.640 pack up and go home,

00:23:07.560 don't we?

00:23:07.860 Is there realistically

00:23:09.360 no situation

00:23:10.440 in which we are able

00:23:11.500 to turn those boats back?

00:23:13.500 I refuse to believe that.

00:23:15.540 And yet,

00:23:16.180 we don't seem to ever

00:23:17.360 try it.

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00:24:45.220 when you look

00:24:46.720 at that documentary,

00:24:47.700 it was the numbers

00:24:48.300 half a billion

00:24:49.100 that we're paying

00:24:49.740 the French, isn't it?

00:24:50.500 Roughly speaking, yeah.

00:24:51.220 Yeah, so it's half a billion.

00:24:53.840 What are we getting

00:24:54.940 for our money?

00:24:55.620 Because there was a clip

00:24:56.480 of the gendarmes

00:24:57.980 and,

00:24:58.520 which is the French police,

00:24:59.620 and they slashed

00:25:00.660 the boat.

00:25:01.640 That's quite funny.

00:25:02.460 They slashed the dinghy.

00:25:03.660 That's quite funny

00:25:04.220 because we saw that boat

00:25:06.320 and we were filming

00:25:07.400 around it

00:25:07.940 and the gendarme

00:25:08.740 initially came up

00:25:09.780 and said,

00:25:11.540 like,

00:25:11.720 what are you doing?

00:25:12.260 Who are you?

00:25:14.220 And then drove away

00:25:16.340 and we were like,

00:25:17.400 so we've got all this

00:25:18.120 on footage.

00:25:18.760 There's this boat here.

00:25:19.760 I mean,

00:25:19.920 bear in mind

00:25:20.240 that that boat

00:25:20.620 was ready to go.

00:25:21.640 So presumably

00:25:22.320 somewhere around us

00:25:23.600 would have been

00:25:24.220 people trafficker

00:25:25.440 and you started

00:25:26.760 to see people

00:25:27.540 coming on

00:25:28.180 some of the free buses

00:25:29.420 that are around

00:25:29.940 the Calais area

00:25:30.720 getting off

00:25:31.300 and loistering around.

00:25:32.080 So unequivocally

00:25:32.800 these people

00:25:33.180 were about to get

00:25:33.680 on that boat

00:25:34.100 and then make a run for it.

00:25:36.480 The gendarme

00:25:36.960 just drove off.

00:25:37.820 So we've got

00:25:38.060 this amazing footage

00:25:38.720 of them just driving

00:25:39.360 across the bridge

00:25:40.020 almost like waving it off.

00:25:41.120 And then we went back again

00:25:43.300 about an hour or so later

00:25:44.500 and then they turned back up

00:25:46.340 and I think

00:25:47.720 because they realised

00:25:48.620 that the media was there

00:25:49.340 and we'd filmed it,

00:25:50.500 they then winched it

00:25:51.440 out the water

00:25:51.980 and slashed it

00:25:53.540 and then acted on it.

00:25:55.820 But I didn't get the impression

00:25:57.200 that they would have done that

00:25:58.060 if we weren't there.

00:25:59.200 Because what comes across

00:26:00.820 in the documentary

00:26:01.640 is that these people

00:26:03.420 feel that they can

00:26:04.300 act with impunity

00:26:05.180 because the reality

00:26:05.980 is that they can

00:26:06.960 and they see us

00:26:08.540 as a soft touch

00:26:09.400 which is utterly infuriating.

00:26:11.240 It's massively infuriating.

00:26:13.280 We have to also have

00:26:14.480 a thought

00:26:16.400 at least

00:26:17.060 about the calibre

00:26:18.240 of human being

00:26:18.820 that is currently

00:26:19.360 leaving Britain.

00:26:21.140 So we're seeing

00:26:21.820 this exodus of people

00:26:23.360 who are worth a few quid

00:26:25.220 and maybe have had

00:26:27.060 some aspiration

00:26:27.660 in their lives

00:26:28.200 and they want to

00:26:29.060 leave now

00:26:29.960 for a variety

00:26:30.500 of different reasons

00:26:31.260 that I would mostly

00:26:32.840 put at Keir Starmer

00:26:33.840 and Rachel Reeves' door 0.98

00:26:35.540 and previous administrations

00:26:37.460 for making part of Britain

00:26:38.440 a bit of a hellhole

00:26:39.620 I would say.

00:26:40.680 And who are we getting

00:26:41.780 in in their place?

00:26:42.540 I mean I think

00:26:43.020 a thousand

00:26:43.560 mostly young men

00:26:44.800 came across

00:26:45.260 the last couple of days.

00:26:47.340 Well there

00:26:48.400 I doubt that many of them

00:26:50.140 are ever going to pay

00:26:50.740 a serious amount of tax.

00:26:52.440 So we are seeing

00:26:53.940 good

00:26:54.800 in many cases

00:26:56.540 wealthy

00:26:56.920 mobile

00:26:57.720 taxpayers

00:26:58.720 leave the country

00:27:00.400 and in their place

00:27:01.920 we are getting

00:27:03.320 a lot of young men

00:27:04.820 from Kuwait, Sudan

00:27:06.080 and parts of the world

00:27:07.980 that they are probably

00:27:09.380 going to end up

00:27:09.860 living a life

00:27:10.300 on benefits here.

00:27:12.520 And that's just a thing.

00:27:14.440 But you're right

00:27:14.860 about them acting

00:27:15.380 with impunity.

00:27:16.200 I mean

00:27:16.440 I think it's getting

00:27:18.580 to a point for me now

00:27:19.720 with my reporting

00:27:21.300 on this

00:27:21.720 where I don't want

00:27:22.640 to feel like

00:27:23.040 a broken record

00:27:23.760 where I'm constantly

00:27:24.940 showing pictures

00:27:25.680 on my show of

00:27:26.600 we've just got in touch

00:27:27.620 with this other people smuggler

00:27:28.740 here's him with a gun again

00:27:30.200 here's him doing this

00:27:31.540 I think the next step

00:27:33.500 for me is probably

00:27:34.180 going to have to be

00:27:34.760 to try to go back

00:27:35.560 over there

00:27:36.080 and try to meet

00:27:37.640 some of these people

00:27:38.280 and try to get their

00:27:39.560 faces on camera

00:27:40.380 and see what

00:27:41.840 we can get

00:27:42.680 because I think

00:27:45.380 that will show

00:27:46.820 again that the French 0.72

00:27:47.880 police are doing

00:27:48.500 absolutely

00:27:49.060 naff all

00:27:50.040 about it.

00:27:51.420 I mean if we're able

00:27:52.260 to get a phone

00:27:53.340 get in touch

00:27:54.700 with people

00:27:55.240 get locations

00:27:56.460 and meet them

00:27:57.700 straight away

00:27:58.940 why can't the police

00:28:00.860 police over there

00:28:02.040 do that

00:28:02.960 and then stop them

00:28:04.540 and make a song

00:28:05.420 and dance over it

00:28:06.200 make a statement

00:28:06.960 over it.

00:28:07.880 Absolutely

00:28:08.100 because there's

00:28:08.680 an entire industry

00:28:09.840 and you can see it

00:28:10.600 yourself

00:28:10.920 when you went

00:28:11.640 to these encampments

00:28:12.900 they're in a warehouse

00:28:14.060 there is

00:28:15.140 they look like

00:28:15.920 hundreds of tents

00:28:17.240 and it was

00:28:18.440 I mean

00:28:19.180 you talked about

00:28:20.180 the conditions

00:28:20.920 the conditions

00:28:21.800 are abominable

00:28:22.700 yeah they were

00:28:24.260 yeah they were

00:28:25.000 I mean there is

00:28:25.800 an aspect

00:28:26.220 don't get me wrong

00:28:26.960 I would not

00:28:28.620 want to live

00:28:29.220 in a warehouse 0.87

00:28:31.100 that stinks 0.95

00:28:32.000 of piss 0.98

00:28:32.540 I just wouldn't

00:28:34.000 I don't think

00:28:34.360 any of us would

00:28:35.040 I think a lot

00:28:36.000 of them have

00:28:36.280 deliberately put

00:28:36.820 themselves in

00:28:37.240 that situation

00:28:37.860 so there's that

00:28:38.640 but those people

00:28:40.760 were all from

00:28:42.600 Sudan

00:28:42.940 all men

00:28:43.580 there wasn't

00:28:43.900 a single woman

00:28:44.460 borderline children

00:28:45.820 if you want to say

00:28:46.400 I'm talking probably

00:28:46.940 about 16, 17

00:28:47.880 so they're still kids

00:28:48.780 but anyway

00:28:49.260 that were there

00:28:50.160 and they were

00:28:52.020 the people who

00:28:52.900 didn't have enough

00:28:53.860 money to pay

00:28:54.360 people smugglers

00:28:55.000 for the boats

00:28:55.560 so they were

00:28:55.960 trying to get

00:28:56.240 a free lorry

00:28:56.740 ride in

00:28:57.560 so they'll spend

00:28:57.920 all day and most

00:28:58.760 of the night

00:28:59.120 at the lorry

00:28:59.960 park which is

00:29:00.520 just next door

00:29:01.140 just trying the

00:29:02.000 luck

00:29:02.200 just trying the

00:29:02.740 luck

00:29:02.900 and eventually

00:29:03.980 they'll probably

00:29:04.860 get through

00:29:05.840 so you've got

00:29:07.380 that going on

00:29:08.620 I mean

00:29:09.240 it is what it

00:29:10.720 is

00:29:10.980 it's a giant

00:29:12.420 warehouse

00:29:13.460 with

00:29:14.400 I don't know

00:29:15.920 a few hundred

00:29:16.720 people in it

00:29:18.220 who

00:29:18.760 it's there

00:29:19.440 permanently

00:29:19.920 it's been there

00:29:20.820 for absolutely

00:29:21.600 ages

00:29:22.140 and it's right

00:29:23.400 next to a lorry

00:29:23.900 park

00:29:24.260 and I was there

00:29:25.480 for like

00:29:26.680 four or five

00:29:27.360 hours

00:29:27.740 you don't see

00:29:28.640 any police

00:29:29.580 I mean there

00:29:30.300 aren't any

00:29:30.620 police there

00:29:31.380 they're not

00:29:31.760 bothered about it

00:29:32.540 you know that's

00:29:33.980 that's quite

00:29:34.280 galling really

00:29:34.940 because the only

00:29:36.340 reason anyone

00:29:37.880 whether it's in

00:29:38.520 any of those

00:29:39.040 camps

00:29:39.360 whether it's

00:29:39.700 walking around

00:29:40.400 the streets

00:29:40.960 of Calais

00:29:41.480 or Dunkirk

00:29:42.080 or whether it's

00:29:42.900 in a warehouse

00:29:43.340 like the only

00:29:44.180 reason they're

00:29:45.060 there is to

00:29:46.140 get to Britain

00:29:46.940 there's no

00:29:47.760 other reason

00:29:48.320 and that

00:29:49.920 that is an

00:29:50.820 invasion

00:29:51.240 and the French

00:29:52.440 are not doing

00:29:53.160 anything about that

00:29:53.880 as far as I can tell

00:29:54.780 and is the reason

00:29:55.700 what you said

00:29:56.260 earlier

00:29:56.520 which is

00:29:56.920 effectively

00:29:57.400 if you're not

00:29:58.400 the final

00:29:58.880 destination

00:29:59.500 country

00:29:59.940 the incentive

00:30:00.520 structure

00:30:00.940 is for you

00:30:01.500 to just

00:30:01.940 wave people

00:30:02.660 through

00:30:02.980 yeah

00:30:03.400 and I think

00:30:04.180 they want to

00:30:04.520 embarrass us

00:30:05.000 over Brexit

00:30:05.460 as well

00:30:05.840 I think

00:30:06.580 there's a lot

00:30:06.980 of that

00:30:07.560 because that

00:30:08.780 argument

00:30:09.140 that a lot

00:30:10.120 of Remainers

00:30:10.600 use

00:30:10.840 which is

00:30:11.440 well when

00:30:12.220 we were in

00:30:12.620 the EU

00:30:13.380 we had

00:30:14.080 the Dublin

00:30:14.580 agreement

00:30:14.900 which is

00:30:15.260 that we

00:30:15.580 could have

00:30:15.840 then sent

00:30:16.200 them back

00:30:16.480 to their

00:30:16.700 first port

00:30:17.180 of court

00:30:17.360 well we

00:30:17.760 weren't

00:30:17.940 really doing

00:30:18.400 that

00:30:18.560 anyway

00:30:18.820 so

00:30:19.700 yeah we

00:30:21.060 could have

00:30:21.600 done

00:30:21.780 probably

00:30:22.240 but we

00:30:22.820 that kind

00:30:25.680 of falls

00:30:26.020 through

00:30:26.360 but I

00:30:27.720 think

00:30:28.000 there's a

00:30:28.620 big bit

00:30:29.080 of

00:30:29.880 sniggering

00:30:31.260 from the

00:30:31.540 European

00:30:31.760 Union

00:30:32.240 nations

00:30:32.900 which is

00:30:33.320 if we

00:30:33.820 can funnel

00:30:34.200 them through

00:30:34.520 to Britain

00:30:34.940 rub their 0.98

00:30:36.240 noses in 0.88

00:30:36.740 the faces

00:30:37.080 of Brexit

00:30:37.500 and I

00:30:38.300 think they

00:30:38.740 know that

00:30:39.260 we're

00:30:40.240 too kind

00:30:40.760 I think

00:30:41.080 both the

00:30:41.520 illegal

00:30:41.800 migrants

00:30:42.240 and the

00:30:43.460 continental

00:30:43.860 politicians

00:30:44.480 know that

00:30:45.500 we are

00:30:46.180 a soft

00:30:47.180 touch

00:30:47.620 we have

00:30:49.020 in some

00:30:49.560 cases maybe

00:30:50.200 too many

00:30:50.980 human rights

00:30:51.780 I think

00:30:52.520 we have

00:30:53.060 a very

00:30:53.940 very generous

00:30:54.720 benefit system

00:30:55.600 a very

00:30:56.320 generous

00:30:56.640 housing

00:30:57.040 system

00:30:57.580 and a

00:30:58.180 load of

00:30:58.560 really

00:30:59.080 useful 1.00

00:30:59.660 idiots 1.00

00:31:00.060 like the 1.00

00:31:00.380 Refugees

00:31:00.800 Welcome

00:31:01.060 Brigade

00:31:01.460 over here

00:31:01.960 who are

00:31:02.960 just complete

00:31:03.900 signed up

00:31:04.900 nut jobs

00:31:05.980 in many

00:31:06.340 cases

00:31:06.680 I think

00:31:06.960 unrempting 1.00

00:31:07.480 hypocrites 1.00

00:31:07.900 as well 1.00

00:31:08.260 a lot

00:31:08.620 of them

00:31:08.840 would never

00:31:09.320 house them

00:31:09.660 in their

00:31:09.860 own homes

00:31:10.260 of course

00:31:10.560 or even

00:31:10.800 the ones

00:31:11.060 that they

00:31:11.280 do

00:31:11.420 like

00:31:11.600 Garrelinica

00:31:12.060 will be

00:31:12.320 thoroughly

00:31:12.920 vetted

00:31:13.280 and will

00:31:13.540 be an

00:31:13.840 actual law

00:31:14.420 student

00:31:14.780 or something

00:31:15.200 and not

00:31:15.600 our mate

00:31:17.300 from Khartoum

00:31:18.100 that we

00:31:18.400 just met

00:31:18.800 in the

00:31:19.180 warehouse

00:31:20.380 there

00:31:20.760 so yeah

00:31:22.520 I think

00:31:23.080 they are

00:31:24.200 just trying

00:31:24.660 to flood

00:31:25.660 us with

00:31:25.920 it out

00:31:26.120 of that

00:31:26.300 and we're

00:31:27.000 the end

00:31:27.220 of the

00:31:27.360 line

00:31:27.540 geographically

00:31:28.040 aren't

00:31:28.240 we

00:31:28.360 what are

00:31:28.740 we going

00:31:28.940 to start

00:31:29.200 doing

00:31:29.560 I don't

00:31:30.360 know

00:31:30.560 funneling

00:31:31.140 them

00:31:31.280 through

00:31:31.500 to

00:31:31.780 Norway

00:31:32.180 we could

00:31:33.040 try and

00:31:33.320 dump a load

00:31:33.700 of them

00:31:33.820 in Ireland

00:31:34.240 but then

00:31:35.340 of course

00:31:35.600 we haven't

00:31:35.840 got a border

00:31:36.200 there

00:31:36.400 so they

00:31:37.220 just wandered

00:31:37.560 straight back

00:31:37.860 through

00:31:38.020 wouldn't

00:31:38.260 they

00:31:38.440 so that

00:31:41.940 being the

00:31:42.400 case

00:31:42.720 talk to me

00:31:43.580 more about

00:31:43.960 the logistics

00:31:44.480 so I've

00:31:45.620 made landfall

00:31:46.460 in Lampedusa

00:31:47.120 I've found

00:31:48.820 someone on

00:31:49.280 TikTok

00:31:49.560 I've paid

00:31:50.140 them

00:31:50.280 how much

00:31:51.180 would I pay

00:31:51.560 them to

00:31:51.880 get to

00:31:52.280 Calais

00:31:52.940 well I'm

00:31:53.380 not sure

00:31:53.660 exactly how

00:31:54.040 much you

00:31:54.260 paid to

00:31:54.520 get to

00:31:54.740 Calais

00:31:54.980 but what

00:31:55.320 I do

00:31:55.560 know is

00:31:56.140 that the

00:31:56.760 going rate

00:31:57.420 currently

00:31:57.800 as of

00:31:58.180 yesterday

00:31:58.580 to cross

00:31:59.320 the English

00:31:59.600 channel

00:31:59.940 could be

00:32:00.420 as low

00:32:00.720 as 1200

00:32:01.180 quid

00:32:01.760 but you

00:32:03.300 say as

00:32:03.760 low

00:32:03.960 that's not

00:32:04.400 a lot

00:32:04.660 of money

00:32:05.000 I mean

00:32:05.460 still a lot

00:32:05.880 of money

00:32:06.080 for people

00:32:06.380 in Britain

00:32:06.740 but for

00:32:07.400 someone

00:32:07.660 from

00:32:08.120 Eritrea

00:32:08.560 that could 0.68

00:32:09.120 be a

00:32:09.480 year's

00:32:09.900 worth

00:32:10.140 of income

00:32:10.520 it could

00:32:10.880 be

00:32:11.040 unless

00:32:11.300 your mum

00:32:11.600 and daddy

00:32:11.840 are

00:32:18.820 because

00:32:19.380 they're in

00:32:20.360 a really

00:32:20.520 interesting

00:32:20.760 situation

00:32:21.220 over there

00:32:21.500 because you

00:32:21.780 don't want

00:32:22.000 to have

00:32:22.120 a load

00:32:22.280 of cash

00:32:22.660 in places

00:32:22.980 like the

00:32:23.200 Calais

00:32:23.400 jungle

00:32:23.660 because people

00:32:24.060 will just

00:32:24.380 rob it

00:32:24.820 so what

00:32:26.200 you are

00:32:26.640 seeing now

00:32:27.400 is pitched

00:32:28.680 battles

00:32:29.200 between

00:32:29.760 men from

00:32:31.160 Sudan

00:32:31.500 and men

00:32:32.340 from the

00:32:32.980 Middle East

00:32:33.300 and Arabic

00:32:34.020 countries

00:32:34.540 where the

00:32:35.800 men from

00:32:36.240 Middle East

00:32:36.640 and Arabic

00:32:37.060 countries

00:32:37.440 who seem

00:32:37.980 to have

00:32:38.140 a bit

00:32:38.280 more money

00:32:38.700 will

00:32:39.180 organise

00:32:39.720 the boat

00:32:40.020 crossings

00:32:40.540 and pay

00:32:41.260 for it

00:32:41.720 and then

00:32:42.660 they'll be

00:32:42.940 about to get

00:32:43.320 on the boat

00:32:43.640 and then

00:32:44.200 from within

00:32:45.280 the sand dunes

00:32:46.220 come a lot

00:32:47.500 of the Sudanese

00:32:48.800 men

00:32:49.080 who then

00:32:49.560 fight off

00:32:50.020 the others

00:32:50.280 they get

00:32:50.720 in that boat

00:32:51.200 and then

00:32:51.480 they get

00:32:51.760 out there

00:32:52.080 I mean

00:32:52.460 this sounds

00:32:52.780 like something

00:32:53.100 out of a

00:32:53.400 really bad

00:32:53.720 comedy sketch

00:32:54.620 but it's

00:32:55.320 just playing

00:32:55.800 out on the

00:32:56.620 beaches

00:32:57.360 of Calais

00:32:57.880 most days

00:32:59.060 so that's

00:33:00.000 happening

00:33:00.440 but in terms

00:33:02.960 of getting

00:33:03.340 in the backs

00:33:03.700 of lorries

00:33:04.080 across the

00:33:05.800 continent

00:33:06.080 it's very

00:33:06.680 hard to put

00:33:07.260 a price

00:33:07.580 on it

00:33:07.840 because you

00:33:08.380 could conceivably

00:33:09.000 do that for

00:33:09.460 free if you're

00:33:09.900 willing to

00:33:10.340 try hard enough

00:33:11.020 whether or not

00:33:13.160 there's suppliers

00:33:14.180 that are willing

00:33:14.780 to do it

00:33:15.160 I would have

00:33:15.920 thought the

00:33:16.260 big expense

00:33:16.900 is getting

00:33:17.480 across the

00:33:17.900 channel

00:33:18.080 less so

00:33:18.460 you've got

00:33:19.600 to Calais

00:33:20.160 you've fought

00:33:21.240 off the

00:33:21.540 Sudanese gang

00:33:22.220 to get in

00:33:22.760 the boat

00:33:23.060 that you

00:33:23.300 paid for

00:33:23.820 you've crossed

00:33:24.640 the channel

00:33:25.120 you've come

00:33:26.580 to the UK

00:33:27.380 what happens

00:33:28.100 when you

00:33:28.540 set foot

00:33:29.400 in the UK

00:33:29.800 you've got

00:33:31.600 several hundred

00:33:33.340 metres out of it

00:33:34.080 and then of course

00:33:34.560 border force arrives

00:33:35.520 so British

00:33:38.040 border force

00:33:38.820 having been

00:33:39.480 radioed by the

00:33:40.300 French to tell 0.65

00:33:41.140 them exactly

00:33:41.700 where the boat

00:33:42.440 load of illegal

00:33:42.900 migrants is 0.97

00:33:43.460 will then come

00:33:44.300 and get the

00:33:45.040 migrants

00:33:45.460 and then they'll

00:33:46.340 put them on

00:33:46.760 the border force

00:33:47.340 vessels and

00:33:48.360 they might

00:33:48.580 keep them

00:33:48.940 on there

00:33:49.200 whilst they

00:33:49.580 do a little

00:33:50.140 merry-go-round

00:33:50.920 of British

00:33:51.320 misery where 0.90

00:33:51.940 they pick up

00:33:52.660 all the other

00:33:53.080 ones as well

00:33:53.760 and they'll

00:33:54.440 bring them

00:33:54.760 on the boat

00:33:55.200 and that boat 0.92

00:33:55.900 will come

00:33:56.160 into Dover

00:33:56.580 and then you're

00:33:56.960 there

00:33:57.140 and then you're

00:33:57.680 taken to a

00:33:58.060 processing centre

00:33:59.040 where by

00:34:00.280 definition I

00:34:01.380 think very

00:34:01.740 little can

00:34:02.220 happen because

00:34:02.880 if you are

00:34:03.340 claiming to

00:34:04.040 not have any

00:34:04.600 documents with

00:34:05.140 you or any

00:34:06.840 records of who

00:34:07.440 you are or

00:34:08.540 you're willing to

00:34:09.300 lie about where

00:34:10.120 you're from

00:34:10.720 and your age

00:34:11.800 there's a

00:34:12.420 limited amount of

00:34:12.980 stuff that they

00:34:13.320 can actually do

00:34:13.920 isn't there

00:34:14.300 so they might

00:34:14.980 take a medical

00:34:16.080 check on you

00:34:16.760 they might take

00:34:17.220 certain things

00:34:17.720 like fingerprints

00:34:18.220 we are not

00:34:19.200 allowed in

00:34:19.800 Britain to do 0.95

00:34:20.760 dental checks for

00:34:21.860 age verification

00:34:22.640 or wrist x-rays

00:34:24.400 for age verification

00:34:25.020 because that would

00:34:25.740 be against their

00:34:26.540 human rights

00:34:27.240 quite right

00:34:28.120 so we are not

00:34:28.980 allowed to do

00:34:29.620 that

00:34:29.820 you're not

00:34:30.100 allowed to

00:34:30.480 find out how

00:34:30.980 old they are

00:34:31.360 you're not

00:34:31.620 allowed to

00:34:32.540 medically

00:34:33.320 find out how

00:34:34.740 old they are

00:34:35.520 why is that

00:34:36.080 against their

00:34:36.560 human rights

00:34:37.060 just is

00:34:38.860 it's traumatic

00:34:39.880 it will be

00:34:40.500 traumatic

00:34:40.980 for them

00:34:42.000 to undergo

00:34:42.600 some kind

00:34:42.980 of dental

00:34:43.260 examination

00:34:43.820 bear in mind

00:34:44.500 that by the

00:34:44.840 way a lot

00:34:45.240 of the

00:34:45.380 migrant hotels

00:34:46.040 and even

00:34:46.680 I think

00:34:46.920 on the

00:34:47.100 baby's

00:34:47.300 Stockholm

00:34:47.540 they were

00:34:48.340 allowed

00:34:48.880 dental

00:34:49.200 treatment

00:34:49.680 so that was

00:34:50.780 fine

00:34:51.100 but you

00:34:51.640 couldn't do

00:34:52.120 it if you

00:34:52.500 wanted to

00:34:52.900 use that

00:34:53.300 to test

00:34:53.700 how old

00:34:54.080 they are

00:34:55.180 so that 0.98

00:34:55.580 was rubbish 0.97

00:34:56.800 does this 0.98

00:34:57.040 make any

00:34:57.380 sense to you

00:34:57.800 Patrick

00:34:58.000 no

00:34:58.300 I don't

00:34:59.400 think it

00:34:59.580 makes a lot

00:35:00.440 of sense

00:35:00.680 to a lot

00:35:01.460 of people

00:35:01.780 but again

00:35:02.540 what happens

00:35:03.260 here is

00:35:03.840 you start

00:35:04.940 with a policy

00:35:05.480 about like

00:35:06.140 let's do

00:35:07.200 wrist x-rays

00:35:08.040 or whatever

00:35:08.540 you can do

00:35:08.980 now with

00:35:09.360 various

00:35:09.600 different

00:35:09.800 biometrics

00:35:10.400 whether it's

00:35:10.780 eye scans

00:35:11.300 or whatever

00:35:11.640 it is

00:35:11.960 fine

00:35:12.180 and you

00:35:14.300 want to

00:35:14.520 do that

00:35:14.960 and then

00:35:15.740 what you'll

00:35:16.080 get is a

00:35:16.580 load of

00:35:17.020 hardline

00:35:17.700 left-wing

00:35:18.240 activist

00:35:18.700 lawyers

00:35:19.200 coupled

00:35:19.820 with a lot

00:35:20.240 of charity

00:35:20.600 groups

00:35:21.140 saying

00:35:22.240 concocting

00:35:23.140 a case

00:35:23.700 as to

00:35:24.360 why that

00:35:24.980 shouldn't

00:35:25.240 be allowed

00:35:25.700 and then

00:35:26.700 you have

00:35:27.140 to get

00:35:27.440 through

00:35:27.860 from what

00:35:28.760 I can

00:35:29.000 gather

00:35:29.260 a procession

00:35:30.540 of quite

00:35:30.860 left-wing

00:35:31.240 courtrooms

00:35:31.900 in order

00:35:32.700 to get

00:35:33.760 that made

00:35:34.620 illegal

00:35:35.020 and stopped

00:35:35.900 and then

00:35:36.480 they can

00:35:36.780 make that

00:35:37.200 illegal

00:35:38.140 and stopped

00:35:38.460 and certainly

00:35:39.080 the last

00:35:39.420 time I

00:35:39.940 checked

00:35:40.260 which was

00:35:40.640 about a

00:35:40.880 year or

00:35:41.100 so ago

00:35:41.520 it was

00:35:42.480 the biometric

00:35:43.720 scans

00:35:44.340 and the

00:35:45.180 wrist x-rays

00:35:46.620 and the

00:35:47.060 dental thing

00:35:47.600 was a no-no

00:35:48.760 I'll check it

00:35:49.720 again

00:35:49.920 I don't think

00:35:50.240 they've changed

00:35:50.620 it

00:35:50.780 but I don't

00:35:51.320 think they

00:35:51.560 have changed

00:35:51.940 it

00:35:52.260 so we weren't

00:35:54.020 allowed to do

00:35:54.400 that

00:35:54.540 you were not

00:35:54.920 allowed to

00:35:55.340 which is why

00:35:56.000 you end up 0.99

00:35:56.380 with ridiculous

00:35:56.940 court cases

00:35:57.600 like a

00:35:58.740 six foot

00:35:59.900 eight

00:36:00.260 Sudanese

00:36:00.980 chap

00:36:01.200 with a

00:36:01.400 receding

00:36:01.740 hairline

00:36:02.360 and a

00:36:03.160 grey beard

00:36:03.820 who is

00:36:05.120 like 15

00:36:06.320 right

00:36:07.420 that's why

00:36:08.380 because why

00:36:09.640 would those

00:36:09.980 court cases

00:36:10.460 exist if you

00:36:11.220 could just

00:36:11.680 check that

00:36:12.340 so that

00:36:13.700 implies to me

00:36:14.160 okay so I've

00:36:15.100 arrived I've been

00:36:15.920 processed they've

00:36:16.840 made well they've

00:36:17.740 not made sure I'm

00:36:18.600 not 53

00:36:19.120 now what

00:36:20.940 well then they'll

00:36:22.420 divvy you out

00:36:22.940 around the country

00:36:23.540 so you will end

00:36:24.680 up in a migrant 1.00

00:36:25.480 hotel somewhere

00:36:26.240 or if you are

00:36:28.220 I suppose

00:36:29.100 a bit unlucky

00:36:29.940 you might end

00:36:30.640 up in a place

00:36:31.160 like RAF

00:36:31.660 Weathersfield

00:36:32.300 or a couple

00:36:33.020 of those sites

00:36:33.660 that we have

00:36:34.380 around the

00:36:35.900 country as well

00:36:36.440 they're all full

00:36:37.280 now so I'm

00:36:37.820 assuming you just

00:36:38.360 go into a

00:36:38.760 migrant hotel

00:36:39.240 and you will

00:36:42.300 be allowed to

00:36:43.340 stay there

00:36:43.800 you'll have

00:36:44.000 everything paid

00:36:44.520 for so food

00:36:45.680 no bills

00:36:46.820 clearly and

00:36:47.700 what then

00:36:49.140 happens is

00:36:50.140 that you're

00:36:50.900 not allowed

00:36:52.440 to be tagged

00:36:53.460 with human rights

00:36:54.820 again so we

00:36:56.400 can't tag so

00:36:57.200 we can't put

00:36:57.900 tags on them

00:36:58.860 so that we

00:36:59.460 know where

00:36:59.800 they are

00:37:00.280 so like you

00:37:01.900 go to a

00:37:02.300 hotel and

00:37:03.080 then you

00:37:03.540 could just

00:37:04.080 abscond

00:37:04.760 especially if

00:37:06.220 you happen to

00:37:07.100 like we did

00:37:07.940 find a guy

00:37:09.020 who's willing

00:37:09.280 to give you

00:37:09.860 a job

00:37:10.820 and which

00:37:12.200 apparently is

00:37:12.580 very easy to

00:37:13.200 do so you

00:37:14.320 can do one

00:37:14.680 of two things

00:37:15.320 you can either

00:37:17.020 just work as

00:37:17.800 a delivery driver

00:37:19.220 just from the

00:37:20.280 hotel anyway

00:37:20.920 and no one in

00:37:21.720 the hotel seems

00:37:22.280 to give a toss

00:37:22.840 about that

00:37:23.420 or you could

00:37:25.420 just leave the

00:37:26.080 hotel and

00:37:27.520 just work

00:37:28.340 somewhere else

00:37:29.020 and stay

00:37:29.960 with someone

00:37:30.280 else and

00:37:30.620 just disappear

00:37:31.380 like vapour

00:37:32.560 into Britain

00:37:34.260 what if you

00:37:36.280 don't disappear

00:37:37.020 what if you

00:37:37.500 stay what

00:37:38.060 what happens

00:37:38.540 so that and

00:37:39.320 if you stay

00:37:39.840 and you go

00:37:40.200 through the

00:37:40.460 process of

00:37:41.480 trying to

00:37:41.960 claim asylum

00:37:42.540 then you

00:37:43.580 have an

00:37:44.360 infinite number

00:37:45.300 of attempts

00:37:45.900 to do that

00:37:46.700 and only one

00:37:47.640 of them has

00:37:48.080 to be successful

00:37:48.840 so you can

00:37:50.200 claim be

00:37:51.200 rejected

00:37:51.580 claim be

00:37:52.020 rejected

00:37:52.280 claim be

00:37:52.560 rejected

00:37:52.860 one of the

00:37:53.460 more famous

00:37:54.020 cases about

00:37:54.580 that was a

00:37:55.020 chap called

00:37:55.320 abdul azidi

00:37:56.100 who was

00:37:56.980 the clapham

00:37:57.640 acid attacker

00:37:59.160 doused a

00:38:00.200 woman and

00:38:00.500 a child in

00:38:00.960 acid and

00:38:02.320 then actually

00:38:02.740 as it happened

00:38:03.140 threw himself

00:38:03.780 I think off

00:38:04.200 lambeth bridge

00:38:04.760 or something

00:38:05.180 wasn't it

00:38:05.580 but anyway

00:38:07.860 so he had

00:38:09.600 tried and

00:38:10.260 failed for

00:38:10.700 asylum three

00:38:11.340 times

00:38:11.840 the fourth

00:38:13.720 attempt I think

00:38:14.240 it was

00:38:14.700 the fourth

00:38:15.840 attempt either

00:38:16.240 way

00:38:16.400 he then

00:38:17.300 suddenly discovered

00:38:18.040 that he was

00:38:18.360 actually a

00:38:18.720 christian mayor

00:38:19.420 and that we

00:38:21.220 could not send

00:38:21.920 him back to

00:38:22.440 his muslim

00:38:22.800 country

00:38:23.260 and there

00:38:24.780 was a

00:38:26.540 particular

00:38:27.160 denomination

00:38:27.660 of the

00:38:27.880 christian church

00:38:28.460 that actually

00:38:28.840 to be fair

00:38:29.440 in this

00:38:29.840 particular one

00:38:30.420 was not

00:38:30.820 the church

00:38:31.120 of england

00:38:31.340 it was

00:38:31.540 some kind

00:38:31.780 of baptist

00:38:32.240 denomination

00:38:32.640 but anyway

00:38:32.980 they were

00:38:34.600 willing to

00:38:35.100 vouch for it

00:38:35.680 he'd been

00:38:36.180 done for a

00:38:36.620 sex offence

00:38:37.160 in the meantime

00:38:37.960 naturally

00:38:38.820 who appears

00:38:39.840 without sin

00:38:40.480 patrick

00:38:40.800 which was

00:38:43.500 very much

00:38:43.880 their approach

00:38:44.540 yeah you're

00:38:45.940 right

00:38:46.160 so we'd

00:38:47.820 done for a

00:38:48.220 sex offence

00:38:48.920 baptist church

00:38:50.040 waved him

00:38:50.720 through

00:38:51.000 vouched for

00:38:51.840 him

00:38:52.120 and then

00:38:53.000 then the

00:38:55.060 human rights

00:38:55.500 brigade decided

00:38:56.120 that yeah of

00:38:56.620 course of course

00:38:57.220 how could we

00:38:57.740 send this good

00:38:58.260 god-fearing

00:38:58.820 christian man

00:38:59.460 back to a

00:38:59.840 muslim country

00:39:00.240 we couldn't

00:39:00.560 do that

00:39:01.000 so then he

00:39:01.580 doused the

00:39:01.920 morning child

00:39:02.300 with acid

00:39:02.740 threw himself

00:39:03.220 off the

00:39:03.460 bridge

00:39:03.680 and then

00:39:03.940 had a

00:39:04.140 muslim

00:39:04.300 funeral

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00:40:46.620 now

00:40:47.240 why is it

00:40:49.660 really true

00:40:50.380 is this some

00:40:51.180 right-wing

00:40:51.920 GB news

00:40:52.540 hysteria

00:40:53.260 when you

00:40:54.340 say you

00:40:55.120 have an

00:40:55.440 infinite

00:40:55.740 number of

00:40:56.400 attempts

00:40:56.840 well as

00:40:57.900 far as

00:40:58.120 I'm aware

00:40:58.360 I mean

00:40:58.620 so there's

00:40:59.340 a case

00:40:59.640 of a

00:40:59.900 lady from

00:41:00.200 Nigeria

00:41:00.640 who tried

00:41:02.320 eight times

00:41:02.980 and then at

00:41:03.340 the eighth

00:41:03.680 attempt

00:41:04.040 she was

00:41:04.860 very clever

00:41:05.280 or her

00:41:05.680 lawyer

00:41:05.860 was very

00:41:06.440 clever

00:41:06.680 about this

00:41:07.260 said that

00:41:08.380 she was a

00:41:09.120 member of

00:41:09.600 a prescribed

00:41:10.600 terrorist group

00:41:11.460 only prescribed

00:41:12.300 in Nigeria

00:41:13.140 but not by

00:41:14.140 Britain

00:41:14.440 so if we

00:41:15.200 sent her

00:41:15.580 back to

00:41:15.920 Nigeria

00:41:16.360 then she'd 0.86

00:41:17.380 be persecuted

00:41:17.880 for being a

00:41:18.340 terrorist

00:41:18.740 but obviously

00:41:20.160 she's allowed

00:41:20.580 to stay in

00:41:20.920 Britain

00:41:21.080 because we

00:41:21.380 don't think

00:41:21.680 they are

00:41:22.020 terrorists 0.99

00:41:22.420 so this

00:41:22.680 was the

00:41:22.880 eighth

00:41:23.120 attempt

00:41:23.620 so I

00:41:25.480 mean I

00:41:25.700 don't see

00:41:26.820 how you

00:41:27.440 could say

00:41:27.720 we've got

00:41:27.980 a limit

00:41:28.240 on it

00:41:28.620 and there

00:41:30.620 was no

00:41:30.880 evidence of

00:41:31.380 her ever

00:41:31.660 being involved

00:41:32.100 with this

00:41:32.320 group

00:41:32.480 by the way

00:41:32.720 this was

00:41:33.000 the other

00:41:33.220 thing

00:41:33.380 they just

00:41:33.620 said she

00:41:33.940 was

00:41:34.240 like she'd

00:41:35.480 done

00:41:35.600 something

00:41:35.920 like maybe

00:41:36.360 she sent

00:41:36.680 an email

00:41:37.000 to them

00:41:37.300 and that

00:41:38.040 was it

00:41:38.360 there wasn't

00:41:38.640 any evidence

00:41:39.160 of her

00:41:39.460 actually

00:41:39.760 being a

00:41:41.140 part of

00:41:41.300 this group

00:41:41.640 so when

00:41:42.740 your

00:41:43.060 application

00:41:43.980 is rejected

00:41:44.640 you just

00:41:45.760 go back

00:41:46.080 to your

00:41:46.360 hotel

00:41:46.640 and then

00:41:47.320 you just

00:41:47.600 make it

00:41:48.020 an appeal

00:41:48.700 or another

00:41:49.100 application

00:41:49.480 you may

00:41:50.400 well end

00:41:50.940 up be

00:41:51.260 scheduled

00:41:51.640 for deportation

00:41:52.880 at some

00:41:53.660 point

00:41:54.080 I mean

00:41:54.400 again

00:41:54.860 the way

00:41:55.660 our human

00:41:56.020 rights laws

00:41:56.460 work at the

00:41:56.900 moment

00:41:57.160 is

00:41:57.540 let's say

00:41:58.900 you were

00:41:59.600 from

00:42:00.320 Afghanistan

00:42:00.840 and we

00:42:03.860 wanted to

00:42:04.380 deport you

00:42:05.040 I don't

00:42:06.640 really see

00:42:07.600 any way

00:42:09.020 that we

00:42:10.060 currently

00:42:10.580 under our

00:42:11.020 current laws

00:42:11.500 could do

00:42:12.160 that

00:42:12.520 because we

00:42:13.280 just don't

00:42:13.920 return people

00:42:14.620 to Afghanistan

00:42:15.160 so we

00:42:16.380 would have

00:42:16.780 to send

00:42:17.300 them to

00:42:17.660 a third

00:42:18.260 country

00:42:18.820 if we

00:42:19.580 were even

00:42:19.880 doing this

00:42:20.540 which may

00:42:21.880 have been

00:42:22.160 a Rwanda

00:42:22.700 or it

00:42:23.260 may now

00:42:24.000 be

00:42:24.400 what was

00:42:25.500 the latest

00:42:25.820 one that was

00:42:26.200 talked of

00:42:26.540 was it

00:42:26.700 Bosnia

00:42:27.080 or someone

00:42:27.360 like that

00:42:27.640 so you

00:42:30.600 would probably

00:42:30.980 have to do

00:42:31.380 that

00:42:31.700 the French

00:42:32.380 aren't going

00:42:32.680 to take

00:42:32.880 them back

00:42:33.280 I would have

00:42:33.900 thought

00:42:34.100 well they're

00:42:34.380 not

00:42:34.580 are they

00:42:34.960 so again

00:42:36.580 it's like

00:42:37.100 you can

00:42:37.640 what does

00:42:38.240 that mean

00:42:38.660 what does

00:42:39.180 that mean

00:42:39.420 this is a bit

00:42:40.060 I don't understand

00:42:40.480 what does

00:42:41.060 that mean

00:42:41.260 the French

00:42:41.620 won't take

00:42:42.000 them back

00:42:42.380 like if

00:42:43.000 we send

00:42:43.740 them on

00:42:44.040 the boat

00:42:44.360 back to

00:42:44.920 Calais

00:42:45.280 I've thought

00:42:45.720 about this

00:42:46.100 why not

00:42:46.500 just try

00:42:46.920 that

00:42:47.240 yeah

00:42:47.740 why can't

00:42:48.540 we do

00:42:48.720 that

00:42:48.900 it's against

00:42:49.320 our human

00:42:49.640 rights

00:42:49.880 I imagine

00:42:50.340 everything's

00:42:52.120 against our

00:42:52.440 human rights

00:42:52.780 so we need

00:42:53.120 to just

00:42:53.340 accept that

00:42:54.660 about everything

00:42:55.220 but yeah

00:42:57.040 would it work

00:42:58.260 the other way

00:42:58.900 I mean again

00:42:59.700 you wouldn't be

00:43:00.120 able to do

00:43:00.420 that would you

00:43:00.800 because they'd

00:43:01.420 say well you've

00:43:01.960 just put

00:43:02.280 these people

00:43:02.700 on a boat

00:43:03.240 and you've

00:43:04.260 pushed them

00:43:04.580 into French

00:43:05.000 waters

00:43:05.400 and you know

00:43:07.020 it would

00:43:07.480 it would only

00:43:08.560 take one death

00:43:09.520 wouldn't it

00:43:09.940 for whoever's

00:43:10.520 made that decision

00:43:11.060 to ultimately

00:43:11.500 be a murderer 0.98

00:43:12.080 and then 0.88

00:43:12.840 and then have

00:43:14.720 to be

00:43:14.940 have to be

00:43:15.480 have to resign

00:43:16.220 from their

00:43:16.720 from their

00:43:17.060 job

00:43:17.340 so yeah

00:43:18.020 so there's

00:43:19.080 a vanishingly

00:43:19.580 small probability

00:43:20.140 of anyone

00:43:20.560 even being

00:43:21.160 deported

00:43:21.480 even if they

00:43:22.120 are scheduled

00:43:22.480 for deportation

00:43:23.260 so this is

00:43:23.980 why you end

00:43:24.300 up with cases

00:43:24.800 where people

00:43:25.300 have been

00:43:25.580 done for

00:43:26.100 child rape 0.99

00:43:26.780 and then sent 0.99

00:43:27.440 to prison

00:43:27.780 in Britain

00:43:28.140 and they've

00:43:28.540 given like

00:43:28.880 a 10 year

00:43:29.200 prison sentence

00:43:29.780 and then there

00:43:30.600 is still a

00:43:31.120 discussion to be

00:43:31.800 had about

00:43:32.200 once they've

00:43:32.680 completed

00:43:33.060 that prison

00:43:33.480 sentence

00:43:33.980 whether or

00:43:34.820 not they

00:43:35.160 can be

00:43:35.620 deported

00:43:36.480 I mean

00:43:36.860 the most

00:43:37.120 recent one

00:43:37.640 this is not

00:43:38.060 a channel

00:43:38.320 migrant story

00:43:38.940 this is just

00:43:39.320 a migrant

00:43:39.660 story

00:43:40.040 about Abdul Khwari

00:43:40.880 Ralph

00:43:41.200 who was one

00:43:41.580 of the

00:43:41.700 ringleaders

00:43:42.100 of the

00:43:42.340 Rochdale

00:43:42.640 grooming

00:43:42.960 gang

00:43:43.260 was set

00:43:43.960 for deportation

00:43:44.740 12 years

00:43:45.700 ago

00:43:46.060 shredded his 0.95

00:43:46.940 Pakistani

00:43:47.360 passport

00:43:47.820 so he

00:43:48.860 would be

00:43:49.240 technically

00:43:49.640 made

00:43:50.060 stateless

00:43:50.600 if we

00:43:51.220 sent him

00:43:51.560 back to

00:43:51.780 Pakistan

00:43:52.160 it's

00:43:52.900 emerged

00:43:53.340 yesterday

00:43:54.020 that he

00:43:55.440 is working

00:43:56.160 still as a

00:43:56.600 delivery driver

00:43:57.200 in Rochdale

00:43:57.760 so if you

00:43:58.220 were a

00:43:58.780 victim of

00:43:59.760 his or a

00:44:00.600 survivor of

00:44:01.140 his and

00:44:01.460 you ordered

00:44:01.860 a pizza

00:44:02.300 he might

00:44:03.280 turn up to

00:44:03.740 deliver it

00:44:04.060 for you

00:44:04.360 with the

00:44:04.940 money that

00:44:05.380 he's earned

00:44:05.760 from that

00:44:06.200 he's built

00:44:07.040 a house

00:44:07.540 in Pakistan

00:44:08.120 so this

00:44:10.140 guy that

00:44:10.900 shredded his 0.95

00:44:11.400 Pakistani

00:44:11.720 passport and

00:44:12.360 renounced his

00:44:12.820 Pakistani

00:44:13.200 citizenship

00:44:13.820 and therefore

00:44:14.840 we can't

00:44:15.580 deport him to

00:44:16.280 Pakistan

00:44:16.700 has with

00:44:17.720 money that

00:44:18.680 he's been

00:44:18.980 allowed to

00:44:19.520 earn

00:44:19.840 he was also

00:44:20.360 on legal aid

00:44:21.060 by the way

00:44:21.560 for his

00:44:21.840 fighting all

00:44:22.280 of his

00:44:22.460 legal costs

00:44:23.340 with the

00:44:23.960 money that

00:44:24.320 he's been

00:44:24.560 allowed to

00:44:24.880 earn he

00:44:25.200 has built

00:44:25.700 a property

00:44:26.340 for him

00:44:26.820 and his

00:44:27.060 family

00:44:27.380 in Pakistan

00:44:28.400 but we

00:44:30.080 can't

00:44:30.240 deport him

00:44:30.960 I mean 0.91

00:44:31.440 so

00:44:32.960 at least

00:44:34.140 here's a

00:44:34.480 happy ending

00:44:35.040 mate

00:44:35.300 but

00:44:37.600 we joke

00:44:40.020 about it

00:44:40.420 but let's

00:44:41.020 be honest

00:44:41.480 Patrick

00:44:41.960 and I'm

00:44:42.880 going to

00:44:43.120 this is 1.00

00:44:43.680 fucking 1.00

00:44:44.240 pathetic 1.00

00:44:44.740 yeah 1.00

00:44:45.120 I'm glad

00:44:46.080 someone's

00:44:47.400 pressed the

00:44:47.820 F bot

00:44:48.240 I am

00:44:49.020 because it

00:44:49.480 is

00:44:49.860 it pisses

00:44:50.860 me off

00:44:51.380 it pisses

00:44:52.440 me off

00:44:52.920 it brings

00:44:53.460 me to

00:44:53.680 the verge

00:44:54.040 of tears

00:44:54.560 a lot

00:44:54.920 of the

00:44:55.080 time

00:44:55.300 looking at

00:44:55.760 it

00:44:55.920 and

00:44:56.240 thinking

00:44:56.480 what

00:44:56.980 are

00:44:57.160 our

00:44:57.320 priorities

00:44:57.840 seriously

00:44:58.880 what

00:44:59.640 are we

00:45:00.080 are we

00:45:00.380 a joke

00:45:00.740 country

00:45:00.960 I mean

00:45:01.140 look around

00:45:01.520 where we

00:45:01.760 are today

00:45:02.140 brilliant

00:45:03.120 part of

00:45:03.500 the world

00:45:03.780 I had to

00:45:04.840 fight my

00:45:05.300 way through

00:45:05.680 crowds of

00:45:06.180 tourists here

00:45:06.660 because people

00:45:07.440 want to

00:45:08.180 come here

00:45:08.720 they want to

00:45:09.520 be a part

00:45:09.900 of Britain

00:45:10.200 they want

00:45:10.560 to get

00:45:10.780 they love

00:45:11.420 our flag

00:45:11.840 they want

00:45:12.140 to see it

00:45:12.520 they want

00:45:12.700 to be a

00:45:12.980 part of

00:45:13.220 this nation

00:45:13.720 right

00:45:14.240 and yet

00:45:15.000 for us

00:45:15.720 Brits

00:45:16.220 it's becoming

00:45:17.400 very very

00:45:18.060 very difficult

00:45:18.700 to see a future

00:45:19.340 here because

00:45:19.700 our political

00:45:20.180 leaders are

00:45:20.660 turning us

00:45:21.380 into a plot

00:45:22.480 of land

00:45:23.060 for the

00:45:23.440 world to

00:45:23.960 use

00:45:24.320 willy-nilly

00:45:24.820 and take

00:45:25.800 advantage of

00:45:26.680 at our

00:45:27.580 expense

00:45:28.080 and then

00:45:29.100 on top

00:45:29.400 of that

00:45:29.600 make it

00:45:29.880 very difficult

00:45:30.260 for us

00:45:30.520 to go

00:45:30.720 about

00:45:30.880 living

00:45:31.080 our

00:45:31.280 lives

00:45:31.500 when it

00:45:31.700 comes to

00:45:31.960 accessing

00:45:32.240 public

00:45:32.560 services

00:45:33.000 feeling

00:45:33.600 safe

00:45:33.960 on the

00:45:34.220 streets

00:45:34.600 it's

00:45:35.900 it really

00:45:36.800 it's

00:45:37.220 it's not

00:45:37.740 on

00:45:37.980 it's not

00:45:38.380 on

00:45:38.600 and it's

00:45:39.260 also as

00:45:39.760 well

00:45:39.880 because

00:45:40.200 we've

00:45:40.500 talked

00:45:40.740 the one

00:45:41.480 aspect

00:45:41.900 that we

00:45:42.180 haven't

00:45:42.520 talked

00:45:42.760 about

00:45:43.020 is the

00:45:43.580 financial

00:45:44.040 aspect

00:45:44.420 how much

00:45:44.860 is this

00:45:45.160 costing

00:45:45.500 us

00:45:45.760 we're

00:45:46.240 talking

00:45:46.460 look

00:45:46.680 you know

00:45:46.980 the

00:45:47.520 NHS

00:45:47.840 is on

00:45:48.360 its

00:45:48.540 knees

00:45:48.880 you know

00:45:49.500 the

00:45:49.720 infrastructure

00:45:50.360 is

00:45:50.620 crumbling

00:45:51.060 people are

00:45:52.760 struggling

00:45:53.020 to get

00:45:53.380 school

00:45:53.700 places

00:45:54.080 blah blah 0.97

00:45:54.680 blah

00:45:54.940 blah

00:45:55.160 how much

00:45:55.860 are we

00:45:56.040 spending

00:45:56.280 on this

00:45:56.700 yeah well

00:45:57.160 well an

00:45:57.700 astronomical

00:45:58.020 amount

00:45:58.380 of money

00:45:58.700 I mean

00:45:59.120 it varies

00:45:59.880 depending on

00:46:00.560 what you

00:46:00.820 read on

00:46:01.140 any given

00:46:01.560 day

00:46:01.840 but between

00:46:02.320 something

00:46:02.660 like 8

00:46:03.200 billion

00:46:03.480 quid a

00:46:03.840 year

00:46:04.000 on the

00:46:04.220 migrant

00:46:04.480 hotels

00:46:04.880 or 6

00:46:05.320 billion

00:46:05.560 quid a

00:46:05.860 year

00:46:06.120 but then

00:46:06.660 on top

00:46:07.040 of that

00:46:07.480 and this

00:46:07.800 is the

00:46:08.080 figure

00:46:08.300 that again

00:46:08.940 is very

00:46:09.820 difficult

00:46:10.260 to get

00:46:10.620 hold

00:46:10.940 of

00:46:11.200 but I

00:46:11.540 think

00:46:11.820 is the

00:46:16.980 social

00:46:17.560 housing

00:46:17.940 cost

00:46:18.360 so once

00:46:19.440 people have

00:46:19.900 been given

00:46:20.380 once people

00:46:21.360 have been

00:46:21.600 told that

00:46:22.460 they can

00:46:22.800 stay in

00:46:23.320 Britain

00:46:23.540 and again

00:46:24.840 as we've

00:46:25.260 discussed

00:46:25.600 I think

00:46:25.960 a lot of

00:46:26.320 those decisions

00:46:26.700 are made

00:46:26.940 simply because

00:46:27.560 it's like

00:46:27.920 what's the

00:46:28.500 point you're

00:46:28.840 trying to

00:46:29.140 deport this

00:46:29.500 person

00:46:29.760 we can't

00:46:30.160 so you're

00:46:30.540 told you

00:46:30.820 can stay

00:46:31.100 in Britain

00:46:31.440 then they

00:46:32.880 are no

00:46:33.300 longer allowed

00:46:33.820 in many

00:46:34.100 cases to

00:46:34.580 stay in

00:46:34.880 the migrant

00:46:35.140 hotels

00:46:35.440 they're given

00:46:35.860 something like

00:46:36.380 28 days

00:46:37.460 to get out

00:46:38.260 of it

00:46:38.540 which puts

00:46:39.220 them very

00:46:39.660 often despite

00:46:40.240 what local

00:46:40.860 councils will

00:46:41.420 say it

00:46:42.300 puts them

00:46:42.740 very very

00:46:43.400 close to the

00:46:43.880 top of

00:46:44.180 their social

00:46:44.580 housing

00:46:44.820 waiting list

00:46:45.440 because there

00:46:45.840 is an

00:46:46.080 immediate

00:46:46.540 risk of

00:46:47.260 homelessness

00:46:47.700 if you

00:46:48.520 or I

00:46:49.080 were

00:46:50.320 broke

00:46:51.940 flat broke

00:46:52.760 and were

00:46:53.740 going through

00:46:54.080 a divorce

00:46:54.560 and whatever

00:46:55.220 else

00:46:55.580 right

00:46:55.800 I don't know

00:46:56.040 why you're

00:46:56.240 pointing it

00:46:56.600 at me

00:46:56.880 how did

00:46:57.920 you know

00:46:58.260 I hope you're

00:46:59.680 not by the way

00:47:00.040 I'm not

00:47:00.720 but we're

00:47:01.960 going through

00:47:02.220 a divorce

00:47:02.580 there's

00:47:03.620 probably

00:47:04.340 someone's

00:47:05.680 house you

00:47:06.140 could stay

00:47:06.600 in

00:47:06.800 in Britain

00:47:07.700 probably

00:47:08.300 whether it's

00:47:08.940 a friend

00:47:09.400 or like

00:47:10.980 your mum

00:47:11.380 or whatever

00:47:11.760 I don't know

00:47:12.420 but for these

00:47:13.400 people

00:47:13.680 they will

00:47:14.200 say

00:47:14.540 well there's

00:47:15.400 no one's

00:47:15.940 house I

00:47:16.320 can stay

00:47:16.720 in

00:47:17.040 so they

00:47:17.500 go very

00:47:17.900 close to

00:47:18.260 the top

00:47:18.380 of the

00:47:18.520 housing

00:47:18.700 waiting

00:47:19.020 list

00:47:19.380 and social

00:47:20.220 housing

00:47:20.620 or private

00:47:21.180 rental

00:47:21.480 accommodation

00:47:21.980 that's then

00:47:22.420 brought up

00:47:22.840 by the

00:47:23.240 home office

00:47:23.800 or by the

00:47:24.120 local council

00:47:24.700 is used

00:47:26.740 for them

00:47:27.240 well that

00:47:27.600 will cost

00:47:28.040 a huge

00:47:28.740 amount

00:47:28.960 of money

00:47:29.360 a huge

00:47:30.200 amount

00:47:30.440 of money

00:47:30.780 they are

00:47:31.600 clearly

00:47:32.000 they're not

00:47:32.480 going to

00:47:32.740 walk into

00:47:33.320 a £100,000

00:47:34.200 a year job

00:47:34.920 many of

00:47:35.680 them I dare

00:47:36.280 say will

00:47:36.780 never

00:47:37.440 really try

00:47:39.240 to work

00:47:39.720 a lot of

00:47:40.060 them don't

00:47:40.280 seem to

00:47:40.540 be working

00:47:40.840 there's a lot

00:47:41.160 of people

00:47:43.680 so then

00:47:45.320 they're getting

00:47:45.880 everything for

00:47:46.340 free there

00:47:46.760 so it's NHS

00:47:47.280 bills

00:47:47.700 plus translator

00:47:49.080 costs

00:47:49.680 as well

00:47:50.560 that's another

00:47:51.320 thing so

00:47:52.000 you've got all

00:47:52.680 that

00:47:52.980 school places

00:47:53.780 again there's

00:47:54.360 no real

00:47:55.020 quorum about

00:47:55.480 how many

00:47:55.740 kids you

00:47:56.200 have in the

00:47:57.040 way that

00:47:57.340 maybe perhaps

00:47:58.100 certain other

00:47:58.700 people might

00:47:59.200 have to consider

00:48:00.300 how many

00:48:00.660 children they

00:48:01.120 have because

00:48:01.480 we ultimately

00:48:02.020 have to pay

00:48:02.480 for that

00:48:02.840 well if you

00:48:03.440 don't pay

00:48:03.700 for anything

00:48:03.980 anyway then

00:48:04.560 you can just

00:48:04.900 crack on

00:48:05.400 can't you

00:48:05.740 and have

00:48:05.960 six or

00:48:06.300 seven of

00:48:06.740 them so

00:48:07.260 we're all

00:48:07.600 paying for

00:48:07.920 that as

00:48:08.220 well and

00:48:09.020 everything

00:48:09.240 everything

00:48:09.540 so by the

00:48:10.100 time you've

00:48:10.360 added all

00:48:10.700 of those

00:48:11.000 things up

00:48:11.340 and those

00:48:11.980 figures are

00:48:12.480 not all in

00:48:12.940 one neat

00:48:13.300 little place

00:48:13.800 unfortunately

00:48:14.220 so it's very

00:48:14.860 difficult to

00:48:15.340 go and get

00:48:15.740 get all of

00:48:16.400 those numbers

00:48:16.920 about what

00:48:18.180 realistically is

00:48:19.440 the actual

00:48:19.900 cost of

00:48:21.040 every single

00:48:21.480 one of these

00:48:21.840 people over

00:48:22.520 the course of

00:48:23.000 their entire

00:48:23.460 lifetimes if

00:48:24.520 they spend

00:48:24.860 that lifetime

00:48:25.420 poncing and

00:48:26.020 living off the

00:48:26.420 state which

00:48:27.300 I suspect

00:48:27.980 strongly that

00:48:29.120 most of them

00:48:29.940 will and

00:48:30.420 then you add

00:48:30.880 to that the

00:48:31.420 resources of

00:48:32.240 the legal

00:48:32.820 process the

00:48:33.740 resources of

00:48:34.480 staffing the

00:48:35.220 hotels the

00:48:35.820 resources of

00:48:36.400 staffing the

00:48:36.880 border force

00:48:37.540 the whole

00:48:38.220 this is a

00:48:39.680 joke man

00:48:40.260 you know one

00:48:40.640 of the things

00:48:40.960 that I think

00:48:41.340 is a real

00:48:41.660 joke is that

00:48:42.760 we appear to

00:48:43.860 be importing

00:48:45.940 low skilled

00:48:46.540 migrants to

00:48:47.180 out to

00:48:47.420 security guards

00:48:48.300 for hotels

00:48:48.980 full of

00:48:49.400 illegal migrants 0.94

00:48:50.160 so when you

00:48:51.060 see videos of

00:48:51.700 people who

00:48:52.240 go into

00:48:53.880 these migrant

00:48:54.440 hotels like

00:48:54.940 kind of

00:48:55.200 quote unquote

00:48:55.620 citizen

00:48:56.020 journalists or

00:48:56.560 whatever you

00:48:57.040 might call

00:48:57.420 them when

00:48:58.520 you see all

00:48:58.960 those videos

00:48:59.540 there's very

00:49:00.440 little English

00:49:00.920 spoken on the

00:49:01.440 door by any

00:49:01.960 of the security

00:49:02.340 guards they've

00:49:03.340 all got the

00:49:03.720 full you know

00:49:04.200 the security

00:49:04.860 guard arm

00:49:05.720 band on and

00:49:06.640 the high

00:49:07.000 vis and all

00:49:07.440 that the

00:49:07.760 walkie talkie

00:49:08.440 so there seems

00:49:09.580 to be very

00:49:09.860 little English

00:49:10.280 spoken a lot

00:49:10.760 of time

00:49:11.060 there and

00:49:13.260 that's a

00:49:14.100 legal job but

00:49:14.860 what does that

00:49:15.380 job pay probably

00:49:16.360 I mean I don't

00:49:16.980 know but I

00:49:17.620 mean being a

00:49:18.920 security guard at

00:49:19.840 a hotel I

00:49:20.920 would have thought

00:49:21.280 maybe you're

00:49:21.660 quivering on the

00:49:22.160 edge of about

00:49:22.520 30 grand maybe

00:49:24.240 if that I would

00:49:25.300 have just as a

00:49:26.400 guest there so

00:49:28.100 so we so those

00:49:29.780 people clearly live

00:49:30.780 here so they've

00:49:32.840 moved over here

00:49:33.600 whether it's

00:49:34.020 specifically for that

00:49:34.720 job or they've

00:49:35.320 come here and then

00:49:35.840 got it so then

00:49:36.960 that's their job

00:49:37.620 they get paid for

00:49:38.440 it they live here

00:49:39.060 they're probably

00:49:39.460 allowed to bring

00:49:39.960 certain relatives

00:49:40.540 over anyway which

00:49:41.300 I imagine many of

00:49:41.980 them do otherwise

00:49:42.540 why would they

00:49:42.960 have come here

00:49:43.540 so you've got

00:49:44.340 that we probably

00:49:45.560 pay for some of

00:49:46.140 their relatives as

00:49:46.820 well and then

00:49:47.800 they are there

00:49:48.380 their job their

00:49:49.120 actual job is to

00:49:50.040 guard a hotel full

00:49:50.820 of people who

00:49:51.240 are illegally I

00:49:52.440 mean that is

00:49:53.400 insane that is

00:49:54.560 insane and on

00:49:55.800 that subject one

00:49:56.860 thing we haven't

00:49:57.560 talked about is I

00:49:59.240 don't know but I

00:50:00.900 imagine a lot of

00:50:02.280 these things are

00:50:03.180 being managed through

00:50:04.120 government contracts

00:50:05.180 to big contractors

00:50:07.280 yep whose names I

00:50:09.120 don't want to list

00:50:10.040 off the top of my

00:50:11.120 head because I

00:50:11.540 don't know but I

00:50:12.760 imagine a few of

00:50:13.660 them are a few of

00:50:14.440 the regulars let's

00:50:15.280 say right yeah the

00:50:16.280 kind of the

00:50:16.660 companies that get

00:50:17.300 all the big

00:50:17.700 government contracts

00:50:18.480 and I imagine they

00:50:19.800 make quite a lot of

00:50:20.480 money from this and

00:50:21.100 I imagine they're

00:50:21.820 quite vested in this

00:50:22.740 situation continuing

00:50:23.700 yeah I mean there

00:50:25.080 is one guy I won't

00:50:26.160 name well feel free to

00:50:28.440 name him if you want

00:50:29.060 well the only reason

00:50:29.640 I would name him

00:50:30.180 his surname's King

00:50:32.100 I think his first

00:50:33.060 name Graham but the

00:50:33.620 reason I know King is

00:50:34.240 because he's the

00:50:34.520 migrant hotel King

00:50:35.340 and he's quite

00:50:35.920 literally the

00:50:36.280 migrant hotel King

00:50:36.860 he's Britain's first

00:50:38.560 illegal migrant

00:50:39.060 billionaire he is a

00:50:39.920 legal bloke by the

00:50:41.140 way he's I think

00:50:42.340 from Essex or

00:50:43.100 somewhere but he

00:50:45.000 owned a couple of

00:50:46.240 like kind of caravan

00:50:47.060 park things and he's

00:50:47.960 built his way up and

00:50:48.680 now he gets a lot of

00:50:49.280 the contracts for

00:50:50.000 food and an

00:50:51.700 accommodation for

00:50:52.420 all of these

00:50:52.840 migrant hotels and

00:50:54.660 part of me by the

00:50:55.220 way I think is

00:50:55.520 absolutely fair play

00:50:56.120 to the guy because

00:50:56.720 you know it's a

00:50:57.120 business he's

00:50:57.600 obviously got a

00:50:58.180 very shrewd

00:50:58.540 business mind he is

00:50:59.540 now like one of

00:51:00.920 the richest people

00:51:01.480 in Britain he

00:51:02.180 made the times

00:51:02.700 rich list this

00:51:03.880 year you know

00:51:05.500 okay I mean

00:51:06.460 there's an argument

00:51:07.060 to be said about

00:51:07.580 whether or not he's

00:51:08.180 fundamentally betraying

00:51:09.060 his country of

00:51:09.640 course but look

00:51:10.300 there's one

00:51:10.700 billionaire is not

00:51:11.300 leaving so

00:51:11.900 yeah yeah yeah

00:51:13.040 he's not going

00:51:13.640 anywhere

00:51:13.820 he's sticking around

00:51:17.820 to do his bit for

00:51:19.380 Britain

00:51:19.740 100%

00:51:20.680 so so he but

00:51:23.160 he's an individual

00:51:23.920 he's got a company

00:51:24.660 of course but he's

00:51:25.360 he's an individual

00:51:26.060 but some of the

00:51:27.020 bigger companies like

00:51:28.500 Serco for example

00:51:29.480 they get big

00:51:30.960 big deals when it

00:51:32.840 comes to all

00:51:34.020 sorts especially

00:51:34.700 with social housing

00:51:36.600 now they're I mean

00:51:38.560 they will be

00:51:39.300 absolutely coining

00:51:40.760 it in and I've

00:51:42.920 been to so my

00:51:43.860 big fear with the

00:51:45.040 social housing

00:51:46.440 aspect of it is

00:51:47.840 how can you make

00:51:49.300 sure that other

00:51:50.740 people in the area

00:51:51.620 are safe and we

00:51:53.180 had a case where

00:51:54.360 there was a man in

00:51:56.640 Hartlepool who was

00:51:58.620 walking his dog

00:51:59.340 an elderly man

00:52:00.060 early in the

00:52:00.620 morning and was

00:52:01.220 stabbed to death

00:52:01.840 by an asylum

00:52:03.160 seeker who had

00:52:04.340 been through 13

00:52:05.560 other countries

00:52:06.140 before getting to

00:52:06.800 Britain and he 0.99

00:52:07.760 killed him because 0.65

00:52:08.320 he wanted revenge 0.95

00:52:08.940 for what was

00:52:09.220 going on in

00:52:09.600 Gaza and we

00:52:11.600 found out about

00:52:12.680 that story I

00:52:13.480 think probably

00:52:14.420 every news outlet

00:52:15.120 found out about

00:52:15.740 that story within

00:52:17.060 like maybe a day

00:52:18.340 of it happening

00:52:18.840 and the government

00:52:21.200 put at the time

00:52:22.480 wasn't this

00:52:22.920 government the

00:52:23.400 government put a

00:52:23.960 denotis on it to

00:52:25.400 stop you reporting

00:52:26.060 on it so for

00:52:26.920 national security

00:52:27.500 reasons they stop

00:52:28.260 you reporting on

00:52:28.900 it how is that a

00:52:29.880 breach of national

00:52:30.480 security by you

00:52:31.760 reporting on it

00:52:32.500 well you might have

00:52:33.360 riots is that right

00:52:34.620 that will be so they

00:52:36.480 don't have to justify

00:52:37.080 what their national

00:52:37.600 security is otherwise

00:52:38.300 but that would be the

00:52:39.100 rationale that you

00:52:40.660 might end up with

00:52:41.220 riots because of

00:52:42.760 because of the truth

00:52:43.660 right and so so you

00:52:47.120 start reporting that

00:52:47.740 then of course it

00:52:48.300 goes to court and

00:52:48.900 then then it's out

00:52:49.640 there but by which

00:52:50.360 time you may be

00:52:50.960 looking at six

00:52:51.500 months or a year

00:52:52.040 on from the event

00:52:52.840 and whatever

00:52:53.780 whatever whatever

00:52:54.320 so so so so he

00:52:57.320 wasn't in a migrant

00:52:58.060 hotel he was in a

00:53:01.060 house of multiple

00:53:01.660 occupancy at the time

00:53:03.280 which is the kind of

00:53:04.480 house I don't know

00:53:05.020 what company was

00:53:05.640 running this so I

00:53:06.140 don't want to defame

00:53:06.920 anyone or whatever

00:53:07.720 libel anyone but he

00:53:09.380 was in a house of

00:53:09.980 multiple occupancy so

00:53:11.300 at some point

00:53:11.720 someone's put him up

00:53:12.380 there haven't they

00:53:12.860 whatever whatever

00:53:13.560 company it is that

00:53:14.480 has bought this

00:53:15.180 well they clearly

00:53:16.220 couldn't they can't

00:53:17.540 have a security

00:53:18.120 guard outside every

00:53:19.060 single one of these

00:53:19.660 HMOs so if you're 0.98

00:53:21.600 living in an area

00:53:22.620 anywhere in the

00:53:24.080 country now and the

00:53:26.440 government or one of

00:53:27.440 these agencies or

00:53:28.200 whatever it is buys

00:53:29.100 the house a terraced

00:53:30.240 house on your street

00:53:31.060 slaps another three or

00:53:32.360 four bedrooms in it

00:53:33.220 turns it into basically

00:53:34.980 a glorified mini

00:53:35.920 migrant hotel with

00:53:37.220 absolutely no security

00:53:38.540 whatsoever and there's 0.92

00:53:40.060 like a lunatic in 0.99

00:53:41.580 there with a kitchen 0.99

00:53:42.560 knife which is all

00:53:43.240 they need and they go

00:53:44.520 out like what what is

00:53:46.200 stopping them from

00:53:46.840 doing this?

00:53:47.540 and I mean I've been

00:53:48.620 to Serco to ask what

00:53:50.540 some of their

00:53:51.200 procedures are and

00:53:52.540 they gave me a very

00:53:53.520 very very wishy-washy

00:53:55.060 thing back which

00:53:56.140 actually the tone of

00:53:57.260 it for me was more

00:53:58.220 about trying to make

00:53:59.220 sure that the

00:53:59.680 migrants themselves

00:54:00.460 were safe as opposed

00:54:01.860 to the people around

00:54:03.140 them you know the

00:54:03.920 British public are

00:54:04.540 being asked to put up

00:54:05.240 with a hell of a lot

00:54:05.980 here we're being

00:54:06.900 asked we are being

00:54:07.680 asked to take on a

00:54:08.960 huge personal safety

00:54:11.160 risk and you know

00:54:12.900 people might watch

00:54:13.540 this and go oh he's

00:54:14.600 making out that every

00:54:15.400 single person who

00:54:15.980 crosses the channel is a

00:54:16.700 dangerous limit it

00:54:17.340 well I'm not saying

00:54:17.920 that but like one's

00:54:18.720 enough and you know

00:54:20.080 the fact is that the

00:54:20.920 rate that we're going

00:54:21.520 at the moment and we've

00:54:22.500 got a record year on top

00:54:24.020 of a number of record

00:54:24.980 years well it only takes

00:54:26.200 a few of them and you

00:54:27.260 have got a serious

00:54:27.920 problem on your hands

00:54:28.800 and again it comes down

00:54:30.100 to that oh if you want

00:54:31.180 to if you want to try and

00:54:31.920 cover the odd thing up by

00:54:32.820 saying oh it would cause

00:54:33.540 riots well like that's

00:54:36.300 not dealing with the

00:54:36.820 actual problem is it?

00:54:38.060 Trying to silence it or

00:54:38.920 something because at some

00:54:39.540 point I hate to say

00:54:40.460 this but at some point

00:54:40.980 something really like

00:54:41.940 something is going to

00:54:43.040 happen.

00:54:43.340 As keeps happening

00:54:44.340 you mentioned

00:54:44.940 it's happening all the

00:54:47.320 time.

00:54:47.660 Yeah and you know you

00:54:48.580 can see it can't be

00:54:49.380 happening like in a big

00:54:50.860 way like I don't want

00:54:52.460 to give anyone ideas

00:54:53.160 for anything but you

00:54:53.660 know go to a really

00:54:54.260 public space and do 0.98

00:54:55.040 something you know kill a 1.00

00:54:55.880 lot of people.

00:54:58.180 I'm not condoning riots

00:54:59.420 or setting fires or

00:55:00.100 anything but again how do

00:55:01.660 you think people are

00:55:02.160 going to react to that?

00:55:02.800 Well this is why I was

00:55:03.600 going to challenge

00:55:04.120 something you said which

00:55:04.940 is when you said the

00:55:05.460 British people are being 1.00

00:55:06.360 asked to put up with

00:55:07.300 I don't think anyone's

00:55:08.100 been asked I don't

00:55:08.920 remember being asked

00:55:09.700 about this I don't

00:55:10.800 remember any political

00:55:11.920 party and look you

00:55:13.480 know we've talked

00:55:14.060 about Blair not

00:55:15.280 Blair Starmer and

00:55:16.960 Reeves but this was

00:55:20.820 just as bad under the

00:55:21.820 Conservatives right?

00:55:23.220 So but I don't

00:55:24.080 remember in any of

00:55:25.060 those manifestos

00:55:25.980 anybody saying we're

00:55:27.600 going to let tens of

00:55:28.780 thousands of illegal

00:55:29.580 immigrants in every

00:55:30.560 year on small boats

00:55:31.540 and lorries from Calais.

00:55:32.680 I don't remember being

00:55:33.620 asked about that.

00:55:34.500 No.

00:55:34.720 Because I imagine if we

00:55:35.620 had been asked about

00:55:36.400 that I think we'd all

00:55:38.320 be against it.

00:55:39.160 Yeah.

00:55:39.800 Yeah we would wouldn't

00:55:40.520 we?

00:55:40.720 Yeah.

00:55:40.840 We absolutely would

00:55:41.520 and I think you've

00:55:42.460 hit the nail on the

00:55:42.920 head there which is

00:55:43.640 the level of betrayal

00:55:45.300 and gaslighting which

00:55:46.440 is exactly what this

00:55:47.440 is.

00:55:47.740 Right.

00:55:48.340 On top of numerous

00:55:49.380 different other levels

00:55:50.380 of betrayal and

00:55:50.920 gaslighting has now I

00:55:52.760 think brought the

00:55:53.260 British public to the

00:55:53.980 brink and I think by

00:55:56.960 nature we are a

00:55:59.940 relatively placid bunch

00:56:01.620 I mean when you see

00:56:02.420 like there seems to be

00:56:03.680 riots in Paris every

00:56:04.680 single week you know

00:56:05.960 actual very aggressive

00:56:07.140 strike action all the

00:56:08.120 time I mean there's

00:56:09.440 clips that you see in

00:56:10.320 Germany and maybe

00:56:11.120 parts of Holland as

00:56:11.840 well where people are

00:56:12.500 you know pretty pumped

00:56:13.840 up about some of the

00:56:14.480 things that are going

00:56:14.960 on over there.

00:56:15.800 Okay.

00:56:16.320 The Spanish as well

00:56:17.040 are really kind of

00:56:17.520 getting on board with

00:56:18.040 it now.

00:56:18.220 The Italians grief I 0.52

00:56:19.160 mean you know you

00:56:19.920 could go on right

00:56:20.580 whereas here in Britain

00:56:21.700 I think by nature we

00:56:22.660 are a bit more

00:56:23.040 placid.

00:56:24.240 I think that's kind of

00:56:25.800 ending now isn't it

00:56:26.580 that I think I think

00:56:27.820 people there's a sense

00:56:28.680 that we're being

00:56:29.240 pushed to the brink

00:56:30.040 and if you feel as

00:56:32.280 though nothing that

00:56:34.140 you say or do is

00:56:35.860 being listened to by

00:56:37.340 the people who are

00:56:38.320 in power and then

00:56:40.200 the people behind

00:56:41.100 that layer of power

00:56:42.120 as well so whether

00:56:42.820 it's immigration

00:56:43.360 judges or whatever

00:56:43.940 it's that sense of

00:56:45.080 betrayal but also

00:56:45.980 helplessness and

00:56:47.320 desperation that can

00:56:49.080 make people feel

00:56:50.200 incredibly angry and

00:56:51.780 can lead to a

00:56:52.500 volatile powder keg

00:56:53.480 situation and that I

00:56:55.520 think is where we

00:56:56.440 are.

00:56:57.200 And what's your

00:56:57.960 assessment because

00:56:58.600 Starmer obviously he

00:56:59.760 came in he scrapped

00:57:01.340 the Rwanda scheme

00:57:02.140 that never really got

00:57:02.860 going under the Tories

00:57:03.760 anyway and his

00:57:05.860 idea was that the

00:57:06.940 way you deal with

00:57:07.660 this problem is

00:57:09.660 the illegal immigrants 0.96

00:57:11.240 are not the problem

00:57:11.940 the problem is the

00:57:12.620 gangs and what you

00:57:13.960 do is you smash the 0.72

00:57:14.980 gangs.

00:57:15.320 How are we doing

00:57:15.740 on smashing the

00:57:16.340 gangs?

00:57:16.560 Well not smashing

00:57:17.060 any gangs so that's

00:57:18.780 good and actually

00:57:19.860 Claire Fox who I

00:57:20.700 believe you know

00:57:21.400 well gave a really

00:57:23.420 interesting intervention

00:57:24.060 in the House of

00:57:24.560 Lords yesterday where

00:57:25.780 she called for it to

00:57:27.200 be part of legislation

00:57:28.220 for the government to

00:57:29.660 tell us how many

00:57:31.000 gangs they've smashed

00:57:31.740 because that was the

00:57:33.260 cornerstone.

00:57:33.760 As you rightly

00:57:34.100 point out of their

00:57:34.960 anti-illegal immigration

00:57:35.780 policy it wasn't

00:57:37.000 deportations it wasn't

00:57:38.520 a third location like

00:57:40.000 a Rwanda it was smash 1.00

00:57:42.040 the gangs that was the

00:57:43.880 cornerstone of their

00:57:44.460 illegal migration policy

00:57:45.440 now I don't think

00:57:46.520 they've really smashed

00:57:47.100 any they might have

00:57:47.920 smashed one or two

00:57:48.580 but then they then

00:57:49.920 they just pop up and

00:57:51.040 as evidenced by the

00:57:52.440 work that we've been

00:57:53.040 doing at GB News and

00:57:53.900 we're going to continue

00:57:54.420 to do it is

00:57:55.480 unbelievably easy to

00:57:56.680 find find a human

00:57:58.360 trafficker get into

00:57:59.120 contact with them get

00:57:59.900 a location get across

00:58:00.840 the channel get a job

00:58:01.580 on the other side

00:58:02.080 there's no there's no

00:58:03.220 smashing taking place

00:58:04.260 so so so that's that's

00:58:05.780 not happening um but

00:58:07.420 again with Turkey's 0.90

00:58:08.360 time I question whether

00:58:09.380 or not that was all

00:58:10.180 just a lie to the

00:58:11.720 whole thing I mean you

00:58:13.580 have to look at the

00:58:14.300 the political ideal well

00:58:16.380 political views that

00:58:17.700 this man has had over

00:58:18.680 the years and I am

00:58:20.220 including in that his

00:58:21.080 work as a as a as a

00:58:22.180 human rights lawyer I do

00:58:24.340 not buy the cab

00:58:25.740 rank rule so this is

00:58:27.540 what him and Lord

00:58:28.320 Herman regularly dine

00:58:30.140 out on and all their

00:58:30.860 defenders will say the

00:58:32.460 only reason they

00:58:33.620 continually took cases

00:58:35.440 from people who say

00:58:36.800 helped to mastermind the

00:58:37.820 9-11 terrorist attacks or

00:58:39.520 Shamima Begum or uh you

00:58:42.060 know some of the 0.86

00:58:42.940 nastiest most horrific 0.96

00:58:43.820 people that you can ever

00:58:44.520 see or uh his but to

00:58:46.840 rear when they were being

00:58:47.640 prescribed as a terrorist

00:58:48.680 organization in Germany

00:58:49.820 the only reason why they

00:58:52.920 kept taking these cases was

00:58:54.800 because it's a

00:58:55.420 straightforward matter of

00:58:56.380 coincidence those cases

00:58:57.400 kept crossing their desk

00:58:58.560 and they have to do it

00:58:59.820 the cab rank rule being

00:59:01.240 whoever is up takes the

00:59:02.820 case takes the case

00:59:03.460 right absolutely and I

00:59:05.000 don't buy that because

00:59:06.100 because I think if you're

00:59:07.200 any good as being a

00:59:07.900 lawyer uh then you will

00:59:09.320 be able to get off

00:59:09.920 something so you can say

00:59:11.260 oh sorry I'm not in this

00:59:12.060 way there's also a reason

00:59:13.300 there's also surely got to

00:59:14.760 be a reason why all of 0.53

00:59:16.160 these nasty horrible people 0.97

00:59:17.740 somehow know how to get 0.95

00:59:19.160 in touch with you why of

00:59:21.140 any law firm in the world

00:59:22.240 of any barrister's chambers in

00:59:23.420 the world of anyone who

00:59:24.760 thought why do they keep

00:59:26.940 contacting you and if you

00:59:29.620 were really distressed day

00:59:32.400 in day out gosh I've got

00:59:33.220 another terrorist here oh 0.91

00:59:34.580 gosh I've got another I've 0.97

00:59:35.720 got another foreign child 1.00

00:59:37.180 rapist here well you'd get 1.00

00:59:39.180 out of it wouldn't you 0.98

00:59:39.920 you'd go you'd go right

00:59:41.340 look I've had enough of

00:59:42.340 this now I want to go into

00:59:44.040 a different branch of the

00:59:44.900 law or something or you go

00:59:46.240 to a different chambers or

00:59:47.400 whatever else um I'm not

00:59:49.440 saying there's any kind of

00:59:50.180 evil intent though I'm not

00:59:51.100 saying that that but what

00:59:52.300 I am saying is that I

00:59:53.360 think there's a pattern

00:59:54.060 there of uh like zero

00:59:58.240 deportation uh borderline

01:00:00.120 open borders uh pretty

01:00:01.680 people representing

01:00:02.700 consistently people who are

01:00:04.340 um enemies of the state um

01:00:06.660 and and you know an

01:00:07.600 anti-authoritarian uh twang

01:00:09.640 to that that um that that

01:00:12.380 they that start Keir Starmer

01:00:14.340 upheld both personally and

01:00:16.480 professionally as well for for

01:00:18.480 years for decades and that

01:00:20.420 ultimately is a big part of

01:00:22.080 why he ended up uh in

01:00:23.780 Downing Street because that

01:00:24.620 was part of his career that

01:00:25.500 career led to him being

01:00:26.200 DPP that led to him being

01:00:27.420 uh getting it getting into

01:00:29.300 politics um and and I

01:00:31.440 seriously question about

01:00:32.480 whether or not he ever

01:00:34.440 wanted to smash the gangs or

01:00:36.440 stop the migrant crisis or 0.74

01:00:37.660 reduce illegal immigration at

01:00:39.040 all I I have questions over

01:00:41.100 that Patrick we've spoken

01:00:44.000 for around an hour now about

01:00:45.880 this whole tragic terrible

01:00:48.740 awful situation

01:00:51.240 what do you think it

01:00:53.220 actually says about us as a

01:00:54.660 country

01:00:55.020 well it says that we're a

01:00:58.100 soft touch I think the

01:00:59.640 bigger point is that we

01:01:01.040 don't value our country

01:01:02.880 enough so Britain is not 0.56

01:01:04.580 just a plot of land where

01:01:06.700 any Tom, Dick and Harry can

01:01:09.440 come and live this is a

01:01:12.860 proud country with a proud

01:01:13.900 history with a proud people

01:01:15.180 and by the way a brilliant

01:01:16.260 people as well we have done

01:01:17.520 things as a nation that beg a

01:01:19.440 belief when you think about

01:01:20.360 the size of us over the

01:01:21.300 years I mean whether or not

01:01:22.800 it is things like going out

01:01:24.660 into the world and you know

01:01:25.900 kind of I'm not trying to get

01:01:26.980 into the rights and wrongs of

01:01:27.680 the empire I'm just saying

01:01:28.660 what just just what we

01:01:30.140 managed to achieve as a

01:01:30.860 nation that was remarkable

01:01:31.640 given our size etc but also

01:01:33.400 things like producing some of

01:01:35.200 the greatest minds that we've

01:01:36.380 that the world has ever seen

01:01:37.800 in culture music in the shape

01:01:39.720 of Alan Turing for example

01:01:40.780 cracking the Enigma code all

01:01:42.340 this so I mean there is

01:01:43.020 something very very special on

01:01:44.600 this island of ours here there

01:01:45.720 really is something very

01:01:46.760 special about about the the

01:01:48.800 the British way of life and

01:01:49.960 the British mind and something

01:01:51.740 about it and we have decided

01:01:53.340 that none of that matters

01:01:54.880 anymore it doesn't matter and

01:01:57.560 that we are allowing various

01:01:59.120 different people to come in

01:01:59.940 not just come in but also take

01:02:01.180 the piss so like whether it's 0.65

01:02:02.860 make us less safe whether it's

01:02:04.400 ponds off the state whether it's

01:02:06.020 take up housing and whether it's

01:02:07.260 take up you know various public

01:02:08.720 services as well that's that's 0.68

01:02:10.540 that's a ridiculous thing I mean I

01:02:14.240 regret that it sends out a 0.78

01:02:15.880 message around the world now

01:02:17.040 that Britain is there for the

01:02:17.980 taking and that Britain is

01:02:18.800 becoming a joke country and I

01:02:21.420 and I hate that and I think we 0.75

01:02:23.940 have to think that maybe that

01:02:25.580 stems from an inherent aspect of

01:02:27.740 self-loathing amongst a certain

01:02:30.000 class of people in Britain

01:02:31.340 whether or not people who feel

01:02:32.940 inherently privileged by being

01:02:34.180 here can't quite cope with it and

01:02:36.100 therefore feels that they need

01:02:37.020 to make the whole place in order

01:02:38.280 to in order to try to come

01:02:40.160 terms with that about

01:02:40.880 themselves possibly whether it's

01:02:44.180 that people have drunk the

01:02:44.880 Kool-Aid on the old you know

01:02:46.120 kind of critical race theory stuff

01:02:47.680 on you know the the bad things

01:02:49.840 about the British Empire and all

01:02:50.960 of that I don't know but to me

01:02:53.620 there is a a very small but very

01:02:56.820 powerful cohort of people in

01:02:59.520 Britain that feel almost ashamed of 0.58

01:03:01.860 it and embarrassed of it and are

01:03:03.100 doing their best to try to to ruin

01:03:05.180 the country but yeah it's it yeah

01:03:08.560 it says it says all of that about

01:03:10.300 Britain and more it just says that

01:03:12.880 we're being taken for mugs our

01:03:14.540 generosity is being it's just being

01:03:17.260 taken for an absolute an absolute

01:03:19.980 ride and it's depressing all right

01:03:23.120 bit of an unexpected one for you but

01:03:25.620 this actually got my attention the

01:03:27.900 other day I was scrolling online and

01:03:29.860 came across this video from none other

01:03:31.940 than Chuck Norris yes that Chuck

01:03:34.660 Norris he's in his 80s now and

01:03:36.900 according to him he still feels like

01:03:39.040 he's in his 50s and honestly

01:03:40.860 watching it I could believe it the

01:03:43.380 video goes through three specific

01:03:45.280 foods he says you should avoid like

01:03:47.500 the plague and a few other things

01:03:49.660 he's doing to keep in shape and stay

01:03:51.420 sharp I was skeptical at first the

01:03:54.380 stuff he suggests is genuinely simple

01:03:56.640 and actually makes a lot of sense if

01:03:59.000 you're interested in health energy or

01:04:01.120 just curious what Chuck Norris swears

01:04:03.400 by at 80 plus this is worth your time

01:04:06.540 watch the video now at chuckdefense.com

01:04:09.840 slash trigger that's chuckdefense.com

01:04:13.940 slash trigger and we put the link in

01:04:16.640 the description below to make it easy

01:04:18.740 and one of the other things about I

01:04:22.480 think that may be worth adding to

01:04:24.180 analysis is I wonder this is an

01:04:27.480 interesting question I don't know what

01:04:28.620 the answer is genuinely is the do you

01:04:31.860 in your opinion some strategy to the

01:04:35.400 way that illegal immigrants are being 1.00

01:04:37.820 distributed across the country yes

01:04:39.460 because like I live in nice leafy part

01:04:43.420 of Kent for example I don't see any

01:04:45.880 migrant hotels in my area which happens

01:04:49.060 to vote Lib Dem most of the time yeah

01:04:50.640 do you know I mean yeah hundred percent

01:04:52.300 do you know I mean because I'd imagine

01:04:53.340 there'd be quite a lot there'd be a lot

01:04:55.260 of constituencies that currently vote

01:04:57.120 in a particular way that would vote

01:04:58.300 very differently if they were faced with

01:05:00.080 the brunt if they were the cold face

01:05:01.900 of this issue it wasn't that experiment

01:05:03.640 played out in real time in America

01:05:04.920 with Martha's Vineyard yeah right who was

01:05:07.060 it that flew them all in I think it was

01:05:08.500 Ron DeSantis Ron DeSantis yeah decided to

01:05:11.320 clap back a bit didn't he and he said

01:05:13.100 all right well let's find them all in yeah

01:05:14.600 and they they didn't want them out did

01:05:15.980 they so they they took them out again I

01:05:18.040 I agree with you I thought or I not

01:05:20.340 agree with you didn't really say you

01:05:21.760 agree with it but I I take I'm just

01:05:23.700 wondering of the view I am of the view

01:05:25.520 that there is a deliberate thing here

01:05:28.160 I think that there was an initial

01:05:29.860 attempt to just bury them in big cities

01:05:31.340 so you know cover it mask it place

01:05:33.960 like London and Birmingham and because

01:05:35.440 no one really knows you don't know you

01:05:36.980 don't know do you and again you know

01:05:38.220 you could be a tourist could be

01:05:39.240 whatever so I think there was that and

01:05:40.320 then obviously the problems and grown

01:05:41.380 and they still okay where do we put

01:05:42.980 them so then the north of England

01:05:44.520 became a large dumping ground and

01:05:46.040 again why was that places like Bury

01:05:49.260 Bradford Blackburn Bolton Oldham all

01:05:53.360 those places had already had the most

01:05:57.120 unbelievable demographic change in the

01:05:59.440 last 30 or 40 years I mean the most

01:06:01.360 unbelievable demographic change I mean

01:06:03.220 there are the parts there where they

01:06:05.280 are it's basically Pakistan and that

01:06:08.680 they've just in one place in Bury I

01:06:13.040 think is have just elected a 19 year old

01:06:15.860 female medical student at the local

01:06:17.540 council elections who stood on a ticket

01:06:19.100 of essentially Sharia law male and female

01:06:21.140 segregation and she was elected there so 0.85

01:06:23.560 that's where we're at there so if you

01:06:25.680 then decide to lob a load of blokes in

01:06:27.620 from the Middle East who have come here

01:06:29.020 illegally again they're gonna that might

01:06:31.920 that might blend in a little bit you

01:06:33.260 might not see that so much so there was

01:06:35.620 big big parts of the Northwest especially

01:06:37.980 there in the Midlands were used and there

01:06:40.720 was also they jumped on the SNP's 1.00

01:06:44.760 idiocy with tremendous effect so they 0.99

01:06:48.260 wanted to become a sanctuary country they 0.90

01:06:50.860 wanted Glasgow to become a sanctuary city

01:06:52.840 so then they decided well if you say it

01:06:56.540 now and we'll love a load of them your way

01:06:58.640 and then there was a urgent plea from the

01:07:01.500 head of Glasgow council to say please stop

01:07:03.860 sending us asylum seekers because we can't 0.97

01:07:06.100 cope there's there's social housing is

01:07:07.860 full hotels are full there's tent cities

01:07:09.360 here we can't we can't have that there's

01:07:10.900 also massive crime issues so so so there

01:07:13.000 was that Wales did a very similar thing

01:07:14.540 as well Wales again Labour wanted to be a 0.54

01:07:17.420 nation of sanctuary so they leapt on that

01:07:19.840 a little bit and turned and turned some of

01:07:21.280 those houses but but I think there's there's

01:07:23.400 there's a lot of these very leafy areas

01:07:25.080 which you were alluding to in the kind of

01:07:26.360 southeast of England are well-to-do areas

01:07:29.540 that receive seem to be resolutely

01:07:32.040 untouched by the migrant crisis and

01:07:35.960 and I would do something that people might

01:07:38.340 think is a bit extreme whatever I know if

01:07:40.980 you vote in your if your constituency votes

01:07:45.080 for an MP that is pro open borders pro the

01:07:51.160 migrant crisis you know anti-deportation

01:07:53.540 then you get them so that's it so you get

01:07:56.980 them and areas that vote to not have that

01:08:00.580 don't get any and then we'll see what

01:08:03.040 happens won't we I would do that and I

01:08:05.160 actually would almost say that's actually

01:08:06.480 fair enough because that's what those

01:08:08.100 people have voted for so why is it that

01:08:10.460 they can vote for something and walk around

01:08:12.220 you know all peace and love it's like the

01:08:13.680 glassonbury crowd isn't it you know that

01:08:15.520 that whatever he was called bob villain or

01:08:17.420 or whatever something there and then the

01:08:19.740 camera pans around and that audience is a

01:08:22.440 load of thick white middle-class lovies

01:08:26.420 cheering their own demise and you think

01:08:29.140 well okay why don't we maybe give them a

01:08:32.620 little bit more of of that then why don't

01:08:34.540 we maybe in their areas we give them a bit

01:08:36.760 more of the the migrant crisis or we give 0.67

01:08:39.480 them a bit more of the the social

01:08:41.100 accommodation or the private rental

01:08:42.740 accommodation you know when Tabitha and

01:08:44.960 Tilly go to leave mummy and daddy's country 0.96

01:08:48.040 cottage at some point and decide that they're

01:08:50.040 going to pay rent somewhere and then they

01:08:52.000 are doing battle with the home office for

01:08:54.800 for rent prices maybe they might start to

01:08:57.860 think oh I've got a minute there's

01:08:59.900 something a bit wrong here why don't we

01:09:01.620 do more of that rub people's face we were 0.97

01:09:03.720 told I can't wait was it I don't want to

01:09:06.180 defame it was it now sure as well this

01:09:08.100 is something like so we need to rub their 0.93

01:09:09.820 noses in the faces of diversity no no that

01:09:11.700 was a memo from a Labour advisor called

01:09:13.880 Andrew Nether right good we're good not

01:09:15.900 Nash sorry now I'm sorry now anyway um

01:09:18.720 he actually it was the idea of mass

01:09:21.740 immigration was to rub the rights nose 1.00

01:09:23.840 and diversity there you go I was there

01:09:25.360 well why don't we give them a bit more

01:09:27.340 of that then yeah rub their noses in the 1.00

01:09:29.300 faces of of the the the migrant crisis and

01:09:31.960 the realities of what that is you know

01:09:34.140 maybe make them put up with some of the

01:09:35.700 issues that people in other areas have

01:09:37.480 had to put up with for far too long

01:09:39.320 whether it's in social housing or

01:09:40.540 whether it's in migrant hotels and just

01:09:42.480 see because I am convinced that you know

01:09:44.780 when people are actually exposed to the

01:09:46.340 realities of it then they don't really

01:09:48.240 want that in their area or next door to

01:09:50.320 them and have you had politicians on

01:09:53.040 your show to talk about this yeah I

01:09:55.040 mean what do they say well Labour

01:09:56.560 don't really want to kind of talk about

01:09:57.700 it yeah what a surprise I can't imagine

01:09:59.160 why I can't imagine why the Tories

01:10:01.260 would want to come and want to talk

01:10:02.340 about it either because they they're

01:10:03.660 the ones that did this first I agree

01:10:05.940 I mean certainly in the case of Robert

01:10:07.760 Jovenrich for example what what he

01:10:09.340 says he resigned over it um there were

01:10:12.700 one or two people within the

01:10:13.980 conservative party who tried yeah but

01:10:15.980 they did as a party fail let's be

01:10:17.620 honest a hundred percent I I am of the

01:10:20.600 view that ultimately this is all really

01:10:23.400 the Tories fault because they opened the

01:10:26.860 floodgate oh attorney Blair did a lot

01:10:28.280 right fine but then they did have a

01:10:30.220 prolonged period of time Blair was

01:10:31.780 deporting way more illegal immigrants 0.99

01:10:33.300 than the Tories yeah way more yeah and

01:10:35.180 did so on a fairly rational basis like 0.99

01:10:37.460 you're a pedophile off you go like 0.98

01:10:40.680 things things that you and I might be 1.00

01:10:41.980 like oh did you did you did you stab

01:10:43.980 a man at a bus stop okay back to

01:10:46.280 Morocco you know whereas now it's like 0.84

01:10:48.340 well should we put an arm around this

01:10:49.520 shop and see if you can be

01:10:50.180 rehabilitated so but the Tories are for

01:10:52.740 me ultimately to blame for this whether

01:10:54.800 it's to do with the record levels of

01:10:57.980 legal immigration that have got their own

01:10:59.900 consequences but also the the the

01:11:01.760 illegal side of it and allowing

01:11:03.360 themselves and allowing Britain to 0.98

01:11:04.860 basically be cuckolded by this human

01:11:08.120 rights brigade that has now filtered its

01:11:10.480 way right to the very top of the British

01:11:12.240 legal system to you know to to to all

01:11:15.320 of this that they have got a huge amount

01:11:17.940 of time support and that actually ties

01:11:19.600 into something that I think is quite

01:11:21.280 important which has been which something

01:11:23.740 that really just pissed me off which has

01:11:25.320 been a lot of white middle-class

01:11:26.780 complacency over the years so a lot of

01:11:30.620 people I think maybe of my parents

01:11:34.220 generation and slightly above decided not

01:11:38.420 to bother running for like parish council

01:11:40.480 anymore or town council or county council

01:11:43.960 and yeah I don't really want to be an MP

01:11:45.600 there or whatever and then they were too

01:11:47.280 scared to speak out when they saw things

01:11:48.820 happening like demographic change that

01:11:50.380 they didn't particularly like or they're

01:11:51.640 speaking out or about safety and all of

01:11:54.440 that and they just kind of let it happen

01:11:56.400 because they thought it's not too bad now

01:11:57.840 you know it's okay now and now here we are

01:12:00.720 and I think that we are an existential

01:12:02.360 moment in British history where we probably

01:12:05.780 have one more chance I think to save the

01:12:09.200 country and I do have a bit of resentment

01:12:13.060 as much as I like my parish generation

01:12:15.000 generally I do wish they'd have maybe seen

01:12:17.720 this coming a bit and prevented it and I

01:12:19.840 certainly have a lot of resentment towards

01:12:21.440 the ruling elites that were in charge for

01:12:23.960 the last 14 15 16 years because ultimately

01:12:27.440 they have allowed us to sleepwalk into a

01:12:29.080 situation now that I believe as I've said

01:12:31.340 is utterly existential for the future of

01:12:33.880 Britain I mean what it actually shows is

01:12:36.020 this the political class simply not fit

01:12:38.640 for purpose which is shocking because

01:12:41.940 when you've got 16 years what we've

01:12:45.660 actually seen is the country being

01:12:48.000 destroyed if a country doesn't have

01:12:50.200 borders then it's not a country or

01:12:52.740 identity though or a shared identity and

01:12:55.960 a shared kind of like purpose and ideals

01:12:59.620 you know for as long as I can really

01:13:02.040 remember when I was going through school

01:13:04.760 my school wasn't too bad with this stuff

01:13:06.400 but I can remember seeing it around me

01:13:08.040 whilst I was growing up that there was

01:13:10.420 this the start of that snowball or what

01:13:12.920 even is British culture yeah you know

01:13:14.860 what even is it is it going to the

01:13:16.160 Costa del Sol having a roast dinner on a

01:13:17.520 Sunday and all that and I'm like okay

01:13:19.060 yeah all right well maybe some Brits

01:13:20.600 don't travel particularly well but let's

01:13:21.900 just have it right all right there is a

01:13:23.000 huge amount of British culture and in

01:13:24.580 fact there's so much British culture

01:13:25.680 that has been the envy of the world for a

01:13:26.860 very long time and that we should be

01:13:28.380 very very proud of it and we shouldn't

01:13:29.900 we shouldn't be seen as you know as

01:13:32.780 racist or little Englanders or whatever

01:13:34.260 for for wanting for wanting to preserve

01:13:36.640 and protect British culture and for also

01:13:38.980 being more forceful about integration so

01:13:43.020 we should never have allowed enclaves

01:13:46.080 which we now have in fact some of those

01:13:48.920 enclaves are now almost cities like when I

01:13:52.280 was in Birmingham looking at the

01:13:53.280 bin and strike crisis like I saw every

01:13:55.800 single flag of any single country in the

01:13:57.480 Middle East and of course didn't see 0.93

01:13:58.900 and didn't see any British flags

01:13:59.820 anyway so that's one thing people go

01:14:01.360 well there's only flags all right but

01:14:02.620 it sets a tone doesn't it and then

01:14:04.220 you're out there you know you're walking

01:14:05.540 down entire streets where like not only

01:14:09.200 is there no English people but there's

01:14:10.920 no English being spoken I mean I tried 0.98

01:14:12.920 to vox pop people on the streets and

01:14:14.840 there were people there that just like

01:14:16.020 literally couldn't speak English for a

01:14:18.000 start I mean you've got you know it

01:14:20.620 just doesn't it's just it's how have we

01:14:22.080 allowed this situation to to happen and

01:14:25.220 that's been replicated up and down the

01:14:26.460 country and for a lot of these people

01:14:27.840 like your Emily Maitlis is of this world

01:14:29.720 and your Lewis Goodall's of this world

01:14:31.120 and all of that like they don't want to

01:14:33.780 go to those places they don't they

01:14:36.060 don't they don't they don't live in 0.67

01:14:37.400 Bradford so why would they care yeah

01:14:39.660 this is how they think yeah and what I'm

01:14:43.060 convinced that they would do is if they

01:14:45.380 decided to go and vox pop basically white

01:14:47.960 people in those areas they'd end up

01:14:50.280 clipping them up and it'd be like

01:14:51.840 gammony white van man that you've

01:14:53.880 stopped in the street who with the best

01:14:55.520 will in the world to him has probably

01:14:56.420 not got a double first from Cambridge

01:14:57.620 and you've cut him up and made him

01:15:00.000 sound like a bit of a knob and then

01:15:01.500 you've gone oh yeah look at that that's

01:15:02.820 the that's the thick white reform

01:15:04.500 voter that you've got there well it's

01:15:06.180 actually that bloke was born there his

01:15:08.320 dad was probably born there he's so

01:15:09.520 right he lives on a street now where no

01:15:11.140 one speaks English where there's

01:15:12.740 massive levels of crime where like

01:15:15.080 there's the you know the Pakistani flag

01:15:17.300 is on one side of his house you've got

01:15:19.420 a Palestinian flag on the other he's

01:15:21.500 woken up one day and he's a bit like

01:15:22.700 I don't really know what's going on

01:15:24.360 there and like he's allowed to feel a

01:15:26.280 bit squiffy about that I think he's

01:15:28.260 allowed to feel a bit squiffy about

01:15:29.200 that of course and it's let's be honest

01:15:31.300 about what it is it's classism yeah it's

01:15:34.000 classism because you're on this hobby

01:15:35.920 horse now here we go

01:15:37.340 you know what this problem is about me

01:15:46.160 yeah exactly it's about people like me

01:15:49.980 exactly now shut up everybody because 0.86

01:15:53.040 I'm going to go and have a monologue 0.59

01:15:54.280 no but but genuinely this is classism

01:15:57.840 of the highest order because what it is

01:16:00.080 is middle class people sneering at

01:16:02.520 working class people's problems and if

01:16:05.400 they say or they make a point which is

01:16:07.640 a completely legitimate as you said

01:16:09.840 they're not going to engage with the

01:16:11.600 argument because they realize they know

01:16:13.240 they can't because they realize that

01:16:14.920 they will lose the argument so all they

01:16:16.720 can do is hurl epithets invoke their

01:16:18.900 race the fact that they're white 0.74

01:16:20.040 working class they speak with an 1.00

01:16:21.380 accent which means they're stupid and 1.00

01:16:23.100 racist and therefore you can smear 1.00

01:16:25.280 them and then walk away knowing that

01:16:26.880 your halo is intact yes and the

01:16:29.300 consequences of that will be that that

01:16:31.080 gets clipped up I might even go around

01:16:33.000 their local community a little bit and

01:16:34.560 then Gary at number 42 is or is a

01:16:36.380 frothing racist and no one should engage 0.80

01:16:37.960 with him and maybe his employer will sack

01:16:39.540 him as well for it there are

01:16:41.500 consequences to the actions that

01:16:43.080 some of these people do but seriously

01:16:44.720 there was a lady who came on my show 1.00

01:16:47.080 once I was a member of an audience

01:16:49.100 right she was a member of the public 0.80

01:16:50.500 he came on and made a point not

01:16:52.580 dissimilar to what we're just talking

01:16:54.140 about here how in her let's just is 0.84

01:16:55.880 literally just her lived experience of

01:16:58.840 where she like oh you know this girl is 1.00

01:17:01.300 just talking about well I live here this

01:17:03.900 is how the area has changed this is

01:17:05.580 stuff that's happened to me and is

01:17:07.080 literally happening right now and she

01:17:08.940 made the point there's anything

01:17:10.340 controversial about it whatsoever and

01:17:12.180 then some like lefties with big numbers

01:17:14.200 of followers on Twitter get hold of it

01:17:16.040 clip it up and bless her she's emailing

01:17:18.480 me the next day being like is there any

01:17:20.460 chance we can take this down from

01:17:21.680 social media because like I'm getting

01:17:23.900 like parents coming up to me at the

01:17:25.420 school gates calling me calling me like

01:17:27.560 Hitler and for having for having these 1.00

01:17:29.800 views and this is the consequences of

01:17:31.620 what these people do when they clip

01:17:32.980 people up when they try and mug them

01:17:34.260 off and they try to try and demonize

01:17:35.820 them and I don't know about how you

01:17:36.820 guys feel but I'm I am now there are

01:17:39.260 still things that get to me the odd

01:17:40.320 time depending on what side of the

01:17:41.320 bed I've worked up to but I'm basically

01:17:42.600 immune to being called a racist now

01:17:43.900 basically immune to being called an

01:17:45.080 Islamophobe basically because I know

01:17:46.520 I'm not and I want to be able to make

01:17:48.140 the points that we make here and have

01:17:49.220 these discussions here and also we're

01:17:50.600 surrounded by it now are we in the

01:17:52.280 media we talk about this stuff a lot so

01:17:54.100 that stuff brushes off me but if if you

01:17:57.360 are just like a normal guy called Paul

01:17:59.460 who works in a garden center and like

01:18:01.680 50 people online start calling you an

01:18:03.700 Islamophobe like and five pillars get 0.85

01:18:06.380 hold of it and then they start calling

01:18:07.740 an Islamophobe as well now it's quite

01:18:09.400 heavy it's for Paul that and that does

01:18:12.200 tend to silence people and shut them up

01:18:14.500 and that's why they've got away with it

01:18:16.180 for so long in this country by by

01:18:18.260 allowing us to get into this position

01:18:19.760 because there's basically been a

01:18:21.000 culture of fear and cancellation for

01:18:23.120 people who wanted to just speak out but

01:18:25.700 yeah and it's created silence before

01:18:28.640 Patrick answers a final question at the

01:18:30.780 end of the interview make sure to head

01:18:32.900 over to our sub stack the link is in

01:18:34.900 description where you'll be able to see

01:18:36.780 this does Patrick think Ofcom is fit for

01:18:39.860 purpose the leading question and if not

01:18:42.280 what would he change in terms of their

01:18:44.220 remit and powers do you think the

01:18:46.180 government the media and even parts of

01:18:47.660 the police are too scared to talk

01:18:49.020 honestly about the strain illegal

01:18:50.800 migration is putting on the UK and more 1.00

01:18:53.320 so who's really benefiting from keeping

01:18:55.300 the public in the dark with all the

01:18:56.800 cover-ups what are the best arguments

01:18:59.320 you've heard defending illegal and

01:19:00.880 economic migration to the UK defending

01:19:03.400 illegal yeah well across the UK yeah

01:19:05.960 does anyone even defend it well

01:19:08.280 Patrick look it's good to have you on

01:19:09.620 the show and I think it's really

01:19:10.840 important that you're doing the

01:19:12.600 investigative journalism that you're

01:19:13.940 doing and I say you know a lot of

01:19:15.840 people like to slag GB news for being

01:19:18.500 right-wing this and you know for us we

01:19:20.380 try to have people on from across the

01:19:21.900 spectrum but ultimately there are some

01:19:24.220 issues whether you're left center right

01:19:27.720 that just shouldn't be happening there

01:19:29.020 shouldn't be grooming gangs and rape

01:19:30.360 gangs in our country we should have a

01:19:32.160 border these aren't right or left-wing

01:19:34.660 positions they're the positions of

01:19:36.240 everybody in the country who's got a

01:19:37.900 brain basically so I think actually

01:19:40.360 whatever criticism people might have

01:19:42.620 about GB news or whatever I think it's

01:19:44.740 really important that they're giving

01:19:45.860 an opportunity to people like you to

01:19:47.480 come up with this stuff to talk about

01:19:49.020 things just looking at the reality of

01:19:51.520 what it is and giving a voice to a lot

01:19:53.560 of people yeah it's really important

01:19:55.460 can I just say one thing quickly

01:19:56.320 because thank you for thank you for the

01:19:57.700 opportunity today because I've been a

01:19:58.640 massive fan of you guys for such a long

01:19:59.920 time and it's just tremendous to be

01:20:02.200 here but what I would say on that is

01:20:03.640 the times that people come up to me in

01:20:06.760 the street like 99.9% of the time it's

01:20:08.980 like oh great I watch GB news and that

01:20:10.820 by the way is from right across the

01:20:13.080 racial spectrum so there's a big Iranian

01:20:14.720 community near me there's a big Jewish

01:20:15.840 community he's not racist

01:20:16.800 no but seriously there are like

01:20:19.000 I know I'm kidding it is no but but the

01:20:21.380 odd time that people come up and they go

01:20:23.560 they say the kind of things that you said

01:20:25.020 you know you're bigger or the latest one

01:20:26.320 as you're a genocide supporter which is

01:20:27.680 I mean last time I checked I never

01:20:28.640 wasn't wasn't particularly pro-genocide

01:20:30.100 um I always say to them okay well

01:20:32.360 sorry do you ever watch it and they go

01:20:34.220 no they don't actually watch it so if

01:20:36.740 you are out there and you are a bit on

01:20:38.880 the fence about it or you're only going

01:20:40.240 off what you've heard other people

01:20:41.700 maybe slagging GB news off just watch

01:20:43.860 it because we do cover a huge amount of

01:20:45.500 stuff we spoke about the illegal

01:20:46.480 immigration side of it the grooming gang

01:20:47.960 thing has been on fine yeah there is

01:20:50.240 that there is all that but there's

01:20:51.320 also loads of other stuff out there as

01:20:52.760 well that we did that we discussed

01:20:53.820 whether it's with pensioners whether

01:20:55.140 it's with the farmers whether it's

01:20:56.580 with anything to do with welfare whether

01:20:57.840 it's all sorts of things like it's not

01:20:59.980 all tub thumpy you know illegal

01:21:03.000 immigration stuff so please these

01:21:04.380 issues do need to be covered this is my

01:21:05.900 point right it and it shouldn't be

01:21:08.340 considered a right-wing thing to think

01:21:11.020 a country needs a border because I'm

01:21:13.320 old enough to remember where no one

01:21:14.720 questioned that statement whatever side

01:21:16.340 of the political spectrum they were on

01:21:17.780 and actually that mentality is what the

01:21:20.960 country needs to get back to and

01:21:22.520 whatever the laws are that need to

01:21:23.940 change and whatever the political

01:21:25.120 consensus is that they just need to

01:21:27.040 change back to sanity otherwise you

01:21:29.740 really are stoking a backlash that

01:21:31.800 will be right-wing in the way that you

01:21:33.680 really don't want to happen yeah so

01:21:35.440 it's good that you're doing the work

01:21:36.460 you're doing Patrick thanks for coming

01:21:37.580 on we're going to go to sub stack and

01:21:39.040 ask you questions from our supporters

01:21:40.780 but before we do last question was the

01:21:42.720 same what's the one thing we're not

01:21:44.120 talking about okay well in light of

01:21:46.140 what you just said right this might

01:21:47.860 sound a bit controversial but I would

01:21:51.420 like to see a little bit more

01:21:54.200 investigation about what goes on in

01:21:56.700 some mosques because I would like to

01:22:02.860 know a bit more about where some of the

01:22:05.680 imams are appointed from for example

01:22:07.580 there is the Islamic Centre for

01:22:09.400 England who I am at pace to say now

01:22:12.280 deny any wrongdoing or all any wrong

01:22:14.180 doing and I know of course there is no

01:22:15.380 record of them doing any wrongdoing but

01:22:16.700 their leader of that mosque is

01:22:17.700 appointed by the Ayatollah of Iran okay

01:22:20.040 so that's the thing that maybe more

01:22:21.420 people should know about and where else

01:22:24.100 is there in the country where there

01:22:26.080 might be some characters like that who

01:22:28.980 are freely able to give sermons to

01:22:31.860 large congregations and gatherings of

01:22:33.920 people and I think there should be a

01:22:37.460 little bit more of a look into or the

01:22:41.520 ability at least to have a discussion

01:22:44.280 question about what kind of literature is

01:22:46.740 on offer at and in some of the in some

01:22:49.680 of the the mosques in Britain what who

01:22:51.820 are some of the these community leaders

01:22:54.100 who are they how have they become

01:22:56.000 community leaders and what is being said

01:22:58.400 in the sermons and in the things that

01:23:00.620 have been there because when October the

01:23:02.000 7th happened there was a bit of a report

01:23:04.160 that was done to this actually by the

01:23:05.380 Daily Mail where they did attend certain

01:23:07.000 things or receive leaked footage from

01:23:09.020 certain ones in various different parts of

01:23:11.900 the country and there was some really

01:23:14.140 really really fruity stuff being said in

01:23:18.300 those things and you know I think that's

01:23:21.100 an issue I think that's an issue and I

01:23:22.940 counter that by saying or add to it by

01:23:24.760 saying I will be saying exactly the same

01:23:27.180 if I thought that was happening in

01:23:28.480 churches I think it should be exactly the

01:23:30.260 same if it was happening in synagogues or

01:23:31.840 wherever else and so I just think that

01:23:34.880 that's something that maybe people should

01:23:36.860 feel a bit more comfortable to to have a

01:23:38.460 discussion about.

01:23:39.100 There you go. Head on over to Substack

01:23:41.780 where Patrick's going to answer your

01:23:43.100 questions.

01:23:45.600 What are the best arguments you've heard

01:23:47.400 defending illegal and economic migration

01:23:49.500 to the UK?

01:23:50.640 Defending illegal

01:23:51.720 Yeah.

01:23:52.220 Migrations to the UK.

01:23:53.420 Yeah.

01:23:53.840 Does anyone even defend it?

01:23:55.220 have a great argument.

01:24:11.960 Bye.

01:24:12.540 Bye.

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01:24:23.640 yyye.

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TRIGGERnometry - July 06, 2025

The Truth about the Migrant Crisis - Patrick Christys

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