TRIGGERnometry - Triggernometry Meets Hilarious Boyscast - Ryan Long & Danny Polishchuk

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00:01:22.900 like if you offer a girl ozempic she does not like that which you'd think they really don't

00:01:31.300 like it if you inject them in their sleep that's where they go i was at a new york comedy club

00:01:36.680 and a guy was heckling and then the guy was waiting at the bar after the show and he's just

00:01:42.940 like um do you did you film your set the guy's like no i didn't film it and then i realized

00:01:47.760 that the heckler wanted his own clip.

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00:01:57.780 Yeah. 1.00

00:01:57.920 You just agreed to...

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00:02:07.720 Your co-worker sounds like the reasonable one.

00:02:14.920 Ryan, Danny from the Boyscast, welcome back.

00:02:17.380 Hello.

00:02:18.320 Back-ish.

00:02:19.120 I mean, you guys had us on.

00:02:20.940 We've had you on before.

00:02:21.760 Yes.

00:02:22.200 This is my first time.

00:02:24.100 Francis did our show with Ari.

00:02:26.340 Yeah.

00:02:26.780 That was exciting.

00:02:27.600 We learned a lot about your home country.

00:02:29.760 Yeah.

00:02:30.220 Which home country?

00:02:32.200 Your original.

00:02:33.280 Well, he pretends to Venezuela now.

00:02:34.800 Oh, he's kind of in the shirt.

00:02:37.480 Yeah, yeah. 0.98

00:02:38.260 Take that diversity box. 0.98

00:02:39.420 Except for the orange stripe. 0.98

00:02:40.580 Yeah.

00:02:40.880 Now that the dictator's been removed,

00:02:42.540 he's angling for a position.

00:02:43.520 hey do you think that uh clips made podcasting less fun yeah yeah yeah because now a lot of it

00:02:51.240 is like people having a fake conversation yeah in order to generate a clip yeah if you think of

00:02:57.600 like you guys both do stand up if you if you think of stand up as like if you had someone there for

00:03:03.280 an hour and then around the 40 minute mark a whole table walked in you'd kind of be like okay i gotta

00:03:07.620 shift it and like catch them up that's all of podcasting is someone you're talking to someone

00:03:12.380 and then someone new walks in.

00:03:13.800 Right.

00:03:15.220 And everyone's starting watching

00:03:17.120 where they just walked in.

00:03:18.540 So you always are building rapport

00:03:20.200 over and over and over again.

00:03:21.440 Well, I actually haven't done stand-up

00:03:22.760 since the pandemic, so...

00:03:23.880 But you understand.

00:03:24.560 Yeah, yeah.

00:03:24.940 But what I was going to ask is,

00:03:26.280 do you think the clip culture

00:03:27.420 is also changing stand-up

00:03:28.800 where everyone's now just recording an hour,

00:03:32.260 but actually they're trying to get three clips

00:03:33.960 or whatever?

00:03:34.240 I mean, it's all the crowd work stuff, too.

00:03:35.980 I've been in shows where

00:03:37.240 the host sets up a camera, right?

00:03:40.520 And then they do crowd work.

00:03:41.940 and you know it's just like the standard like what do you do and you know asks everybody and

00:03:46.660 then the next comedian is setting up their camera they go up and they're like what do you do and

00:03:51.140 they're like i answered the last guy it's like is this what comedy is just asking us what we do

00:03:56.120 danny had the funniest story where uh there was an audience member that asked for his clip oh this

00:04:00.860 is the literally this is where i thought i'm like comedy has changed is i was at a new york comedy

00:04:06.780 club and a guy was heckling a comedian and you know standard stuff at this point and then the

00:04:13.340 guy was waiting at the bar after the show and the comedian comes out and he's like hey you know just

00:04:18.460 it was funny stuff and he's just like um do you did you film your set like i was like no i didn't

00:04:24.160 film it and then i realized that the heckler wanted his own clip he wanted a clip of him heckling

00:04:30.520 right yeah like he was trying to get like some content for himself and he was hoping like he

00:04:35.520 wanted his own crazy that's the thing it's like when news media 24-hour news came along and changed

00:04:40.860 everything then social media came along and changed everything and now this is like next 0.99

00:04:45.140 level shit this is really next level like for hecklers wanting their own portfolio 0.98

00:04:49.040 the heckler page yeah like they have their own instagram yeah i'm the heckler guy i mean look 0.99

00:04:55.480 you guys have done comedy for a while it used to be the thing where someone would get drunk they

00:05:00.740 would heckle they would get kicked out and they would be waiting outside and they're like i'm just

00:05:04.680 helping the show remember that that would always be what they would say they'd say i'm just helping

00:05:08.780 and would always say no you're not and then comedy switched all these people got super famous and

00:05:13.720 they're like yeah they kind of are helping now like it actually came the prophecy came true

00:05:18.340 where they're finally like no i am helping which is a nightmare nightmare oh well totally

00:05:22.420 it totally is i remember like i always compared hecklers to you know when you go and watch a

00:05:28.860 soccer game in a park and you there's just people playing you know like sunday league is what we

00:05:34.360 call it i don't know you probably have the version with football whatever else and then the dog runs 0.70

00:05:38.620 on the pitch and the dog is having a fucking great time yeah and he's thinking he's helping he's 0.98

00:05:44.160 taking part in the game and that's kind of like a heckling like you're just a dog running on the 0.98

00:05:48.060 pitch yeah the equivalent in central park would be if you're playing softball and then someone is

00:05:51.600 just dragging a cooler through the infield in the middle of a game you're like hey you might get

00:05:56.540 I hate it, and I just don't care.

00:05:57.740 And now they're doing it to film themselves as well,

00:05:59.700 is your point?

00:06:00.380 By the way, I just realized,

00:06:01.260 this is like a commercial for Zempik.

00:06:02.960 This is like a Zempik side, natural side.

00:06:06.400 Natural. 0.84

00:06:06.840 Calling him fat? 0.84

00:06:07.900 Yeah, he's calling me fat. 1.00

00:06:09.260 This country makes you fat. 0.99

00:06:11.000 You, maybe not you, but... 0.99

00:06:13.080 Starved myself to death.

00:06:14.060 Yeah, right. 0.99

00:06:14.400 Like, it's fucking impossible 0.99

00:06:16.000 to stay healthy in America. 0.99

00:06:18.500 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:06:18.820 It's hard, yeah.

00:06:20.100 Especially with certain states down south.

00:06:22.620 And when you give people help, 0.93

00:06:23.760 like, if you offer a girl a Zempik, 0.64

00:06:25.500 She does not like that, which you'd think. 0.69

00:06:28.400 They really don't like it if you inject them in their sleep.

00:06:30.900 That's where they go.

00:06:32.720 It's a real line across.

00:06:34.800 Spending the money, more expensive than flowers.

00:06:38.420 Well, you mentioned that there was the traditional media

00:06:44.800 and then it went to podcasting and the non-traditional media.

00:06:48.120 But if you kind of look at it now, it's back to three-minute clips.

00:06:51.780 It's back to all of the guys from news media

00:06:55.000 came over to the, like, if you think of, like, Tucker Carlson, all those people, like, that are

00:06:59.240 huge right now, they're from that. Right. So everyone came over and all the biggest people

00:07:04.300 are here because everyone always says everything's just, like, unpackaging and then packaging again.

00:07:08.360 But it kind of did happen where all of the biggest people are now the biggest people in

00:07:12.360 untraditional media using the same tactics. And it's basically gone back to that.

00:07:17.260 Yeah, it's worse than that because CNN now, I don't know if you saw, like, Jake Tapper,

00:07:20.880 Anderson Cooper, Jake Tapper last night

00:07:22.640 was, like, doing his show from his office.

00:07:25.560 Right.

00:07:26.080 So now his show's from his office,

00:07:27.340 and he looks like it's the same with Anderson Cooper.

00:07:28.680 I've seen this.

00:07:29.740 They're basically taking their multi-million dollar TV sets

00:07:33.060 and trying to turn them into, like,

00:07:34.660 these grungy podcasts.

00:07:35.740 Yeah, so now Jake will look...

00:07:37.800 And he's just like, I'm just trying something,

00:07:39.960 and it's just him in his, you know,

00:07:41.620 dingy corner office, and that's where his,

00:07:44.280 you know, multi-million dollar show...

00:07:45.940 And they have, like, nice studios.

00:07:48.160 Like, honestly, if we could have a nice studio like that,

00:07:49.840 We would probably go that way.

00:07:51.400 We've been to your studio, boys. 1.00

00:07:53.580 Our studio just has zins everywhere. 1.00

00:07:56.660 I remember trying to get to the restroom. 1.00

00:07:58.480 I had to step over three suitcases.

00:08:01.360 It's a multi-purpose studio.

00:08:03.880 They're going for the old sportscaster look.

00:08:07.420 Sure.

00:08:07.920 Where it's the guy that has all the figurines and stuff.

00:08:10.560 Tapper is doing that.

00:08:11.760 But it's just funny that he has a beef with Tapper, by the way.

00:08:14.420 What's your beef with Tapper?

00:08:16.620 By the way, Danny, does Jake Tapper know that he's in a beef?

00:08:19.840 Yeah, I have his phone number.

00:08:20.720 I can call him right now.

00:08:21.640 I made, because I make these AI videos

00:08:23.840 and I made an AI video of Jake Tapper. 0.99

00:08:26.400 It was, remember when the Hezbollah with the pagers? 0.99

00:08:29.000 Yeah. 0.98

00:08:29.340 So I made this AI CNN news clip

00:08:31.900 where I'm like the journalist in Tel Aviv, basically.

00:08:34.620 And I said that there was goats exploding

00:08:36.400 and that there were exploding goats.

00:08:38.560 And that was like the next phase of the, 1.00

00:08:40.760 because, you know, I fuck goats. 0.99

00:08:42.920 And then, and anyways, it went like super, 0.99

00:08:46.040 like I got like a Snopes fact check on it

00:08:48.340 and all this stuff.

00:08:49.280 And so then I get an email.

00:08:52.120 I was in Vegas in Skank Fest,

00:08:54.340 and I wake up to leave,

00:08:55.260 and I have a DM from Jake Tapper.

00:08:58.040 And he's like, Danny, I need to talk to you.

00:08:59.840 Take my name out of your mouth.

00:09:01.300 I'm like, oh, no, he's going to be so mad.

00:09:03.060 But then he wanted me to...

00:09:04.260 I made him an AI video of himself for his show

00:09:08.660 about the dangers of AI.

00:09:10.280 I kind of basically made him a video about...

00:09:12.360 And then he had, like, Amy Klobuchar coming on

00:09:14.220 about how he needed to ban all this stuff.

00:09:16.240 But the script changed,

00:09:17.360 and there was a script that said...

00:09:19.280 It said, like, you know, this AI was not made by me.

00:09:22.660 It was made by brilliant comedian Danny Polshak.

00:09:24.820 And then they messaged them and they go,

00:09:26.200 hey, could you make one change?

00:09:27.400 And they removed brilliant.

00:09:28.900 Yeah, the producer, Jake Tapper was like,

00:09:31.380 this is what I want you to say for me.

00:09:32.980 And then the producer, I was in a group chat with the producer,

00:09:35.580 and the producer says, can we just get one quick change?

00:09:38.120 Can you just remove the word brilliant?

00:09:41.880 I go, it wasn't even my idea.

00:09:44.480 Jake asked for that.

00:09:45.280 The funny thing is it's become like the merger

00:09:47.280 of serious journalism and comedy and influences, right?

00:09:50.640 And so now, and then like every now and again,

00:09:52.480 you open your phone,

00:09:53.120 I don't know if you've heard this like a while back,

00:09:54.580 and someone like two major journalists in America

00:09:57.200 calling, saying like, he's got a micropenis.

00:10:00.700 Like, what happened?

00:10:03.180 I mean, that's the Iran news right now. 1.00

00:10:05.260 This guy's gay. 1.00

00:10:08.380 That's the level of analysis we want. 1.00

00:10:10.460 Can't get it up.

00:10:11.420 But you know what it feels like?

00:10:12.940 It's because she called him Mark Levin.

00:10:15.540 Megyn Kelly called Mark Levin micro-penis Mark, right?

00:10:18.720 And he's just like, it felt kind of like,

00:10:21.140 because that's such a Trumpian comment.

00:10:23.260 You know when you see a comedian

00:10:24.500 try and do another comedian's style?

00:10:26.640 And you're like, bro, come on.

00:10:28.020 You're just ripping off another comic here.

00:10:29.900 It really felt like that with her. 0.78

00:10:32.080 Like she was micro-penis Mark.

00:10:33.600 She would never have done that for Trump.

00:10:34.520 You guys didn't see this, did you?

00:10:36.160 No, I've seen the Mark Levin.

00:10:37.780 Oh, yeah, I've seen the Mark Levin.

00:10:38.440 I don't really know this one, no.

00:10:39.580 What did Mark Levin say other than just

00:10:41.480 he supports the war?

00:10:42.740 Mark Levin is, with all respects,

00:10:44.480 one of these people who is like pro-israel but he's so he's so rude and obnoxious about it i'm 0.99

00:10:50.440 like dude fucking you're making anti-semitic people right now with this shit yeah like he's 0.99

00:10:54.940 actively generating them sure so so he keeps going after everybody and then everybody goes 0.99

00:11:00.840 after him and everybody fucking hates each other but i'm just like the level of like childhood 0.95

00:11:06.560 shit that is going on among serious people sure once serious well right and my point is it's like 0.98

00:11:12.920 kind of the Andrew Tate-ification of 0.98

00:11:14.940 everything. And Trump is

00:11:16.980 kind of responsible for it as well.

00:11:19.080 There's a lot of that now.

00:11:20.660 I mean, that is debates now, period. 0.95

00:11:22.300 The last debate is like, this guy's friggin' old. 0.96

00:11:25.300 Yeah. I mean, they have the analytics. 0.93

00:11:27.120 They probably, Megyn Kelly looks

00:11:28.860 at it and she sees it go, I call a

00:11:30.800 micropenis and there's a bit of a spike right here. 1.00

00:11:32.940 Are you saying that you want to vote for a bitch? 1.00

00:11:37.780 That literally will be 1.00

00:11:38.900 the debate at the next election.

00:11:41.160 No, but going back to TV,

00:11:42.700 You know, when the moment for me, like, these TV shows,

00:11:45.460 they were kind of exposed for what they are the late night,

00:11:48.240 was during COVID.

00:11:49.300 Do you remember that?

00:11:50.140 Where there was no audience,

00:11:52.500 and then they were doing it like any other person in their bedroom,

00:11:55.560 and you're like, oh, you're not funny.

00:11:57.400 Without the bells and whistles, this is not great.

00:11:59.540 Yeah, without the laugh button thing.

00:12:01.280 Yeah.

00:12:01.860 Please laugh.

00:12:03.080 And you kind of think, like, once that's happened,

00:12:05.500 once you've literally seen it as without the stuff and all the bells,

00:12:10.100 they can't really go back, can they?

00:12:11.700 He and the girl in the morning without the makeup on.

00:12:15.480 I mean, it was...

00:12:16.460 Yeah, it was already...

00:12:17.060 Coming out of the pool.

00:12:18.400 It was kind of already on its way out, it seemed,

00:12:20.720 just based on the...

00:12:21.700 Actors, too.

00:12:22.560 When you see an actor,

00:12:23.980 there'll be actors that do stuff with, like, influencers,

00:12:26.260 and they're acting just like a phone video,

00:12:27.960 and you're just like,

00:12:28.900 oh, he's not good at acting.

00:12:30.600 He had explosions behind him.

00:12:32.420 That's right.

00:12:33.020 I could do that.

00:12:34.340 Yeah, and it's kind of like,

00:12:35.540 we all realize that collectively.

00:12:37.980 And then, you know, they fully jump the shark.

00:12:40.080 I mean, who can forget Stephen Colbert's The Vaccine?

00:12:42.420 Vaccina, brought to you by Pfizer.

00:12:44.200 Dancing around.

00:12:45.360 Oh, my God.

00:12:46.400 I used to respect him a lot as well,

00:12:47.900 because he did that.

00:12:48.840 Like, I've always been...

00:12:49.680 He's in my top three.

00:12:50.720 Satirical, political stuff.

00:12:51.640 I mean, Strangers with Candy,

00:12:53.040 if you ever saw that show, was incredible.

00:12:55.300 With Amy Sedaris.

00:12:56.380 Oh, my God.

00:12:56.940 It's one of the funniest shows I've ever seen.

00:12:58.120 I remember him doing the White House Correspondents Dinner

00:13:00.380 and talking about George Bush to his face.

00:13:03.240 Did you ever see that?

00:13:04.200 No.

00:13:05.280 Oh, yeah, yeah, I did see that.

00:13:06.260 Yeah, yeah.

00:13:06.660 Which was really brave and, like, cutting edge

00:13:09.100 and hardcore and then fast forward however many years you're dancing around as the vaccine

00:13:14.440 like that is a fall you know what i mean yeah cold bear to me is the quintessential one of

00:13:20.120 uh when i think of like that stinks yeah but i just kind of think like who came up with that

00:13:27.200 idea and why is he okay with the worst part about it is it was a team of 30 writers like

00:13:34.080 you watch that show and you're like yeah this probably has a couple people there's like 30

00:13:37.400 people who make full-time salaries writing for that show. And they passed that. Yeah. I mean,

00:13:42.780 maybe it was his idea and, or maybe, you know, I don't know. I'm sure he has final say

00:13:46.760 on this stuff, but I'm sure he was, you know, it was deep in the fog of COVID. I think fucking 0.99

00:13:51.440 John Pfizer showed up to his office and said, this is what's happening. Huge bag of money on 0.99

00:13:56.520 the table. Yeah. You know, it must be hard to stay at the top for a long time. Like the one

00:14:00.780 person I would say that's managed is Bill Maher. To stay, yeah, yeah. To stay cool, to not fall

00:14:06.500 off the deep end and he's a director.

00:14:07.740 Yeah, I mean, he got a cool guy, Bill Maher.

00:14:10.160 I think he is cool.

00:14:11.680 I mean, he got a lot of flack when he, you know,

00:14:14.060 was not towing the liberal kind of line

00:14:17.120 when he was just like,

00:14:17.840 hey, some of this stuff is a little nuts.

00:14:19.260 And I mean, he lost, I think, a lot of viewers from it.

00:14:21.840 I think he did.

00:14:22.620 I mean, he was one of the first people who,

00:14:26.180 you know, he brought people on

00:14:27.620 to talk about the gender debate.

00:14:30.220 Before that, kind of, it was sort of taboo.

00:14:33.240 And then when he went over and was like, 0.99

00:14:34.960 yeah, maybe if you have a dick, 1.00

00:14:36.340 you can't be a girl and everyone had a meltdown about it he was pretty much the first liberal 0.99

00:14:40.740 certainly the first liberal tv show host to push back against all of this he was kind of that was

00:14:45.460 the original who was like the offensive edgy show right and then kind of in the 2016 era we're like

00:14:50.620 well we don't want you to actually do that and that's kind of why i mean they were right it was

00:14:56.020 bad for business right yeah because if you want if you watch even like if you'll see clips of like

00:15:00.700 late night now they'll have like the south park guys on and and kind of be like i hear you guys

00:15:05.300 got some complaints like yeah screw them we don't care about complaints and you're just like

00:15:09.160 it's weird to still kind of take that where you're just like but you do care and you don't like that

00:15:14.900 no yeah and now also it's it's gone the other way in in a lot of new stuff where like people are now

00:15:20.660 going so far across the line just so they can say they got a bunch of complaints or just they can

00:15:25.860 say they got canceled or whatever yeah like that a lot of that is now happening because people have

00:15:29.820 worked out that that's like a mechanism to achieve i think everything is just the national inquirer

00:15:34.600 now i think that's just everything is just some version of do you guys have that in the uk yeah

00:15:38.920 we know what the national aliens abducted my mom and they sell it at the checkout right of like the

00:15:45.100 grocery store and that's just kind of everything some version of that yeah that makes complete

00:15:50.440 sense because you like we said before you look at some broadcasters and you go like i used to

00:15:55.600 respect you but how can i respect you when you do literally all of this stuff and then you come out

00:16:01.560 and you go, you know what?

00:16:02.540 Here's my opinion on Iran.

00:16:04.000 And you're like, you can't do that. 0.94

00:16:06.260 You can't, for instance, dance with a vaccine

00:16:08.740 and then come out and then be like,

00:16:10.840 hey, I'm the truth teller.

00:16:12.260 It doesn't work.

00:16:13.220 Sure.

00:16:13.840 Well, yeah, the currency that was credibility.

00:16:15.940 You can.

00:16:17.580 And you still get to make $25 million a year.

00:16:21.080 But how long can that last?

00:16:22.340 Well, I think he has about a month.

00:16:26.060 I think it's...

00:16:27.220 And because things move so fast,

00:16:28.720 everything's coming on.

00:16:29.440 Like, I used to say with even, like,

00:16:32.580 you might say activism or conspiracy stuff.

00:16:34.660 Like, I have tons of friends that are into conspiracy stuff.

00:16:37.520 And, yeah, of course.

00:16:38.820 Like, you know, whatever.

00:16:39.700 Dudes are just into that stuff, right? 0.99

00:16:41.200 And you have a buddy, the supernalians, 1.00

00:16:42.800 or whatever it is, right? 0.99

00:16:44.040 Old school conspiracy.

00:16:45.360 Or new conspiracies. 0.99

00:16:46.960 The Jews. 0.98

00:16:47.520 The Jews. 0.99

00:16:48.840 But I go... 0.97

00:16:49.780 I mean, Danny, you look tired.

00:16:50.920 You've been busy running the world, mate.

00:16:52.580 You know what I'm saying? 1.00

00:16:53.580 I'm counting Jews. 1.00

00:16:55.020 It's tiring work. 1.00

00:16:57.500 I get that a lot.

00:16:58.440 This guy's like, this guy hasn't been up all night

00:17:00.060 just counting Jews.

00:17:03.120 Maybe you're just worried about them. 1.00

00:17:05.160 You just want to see...

00:17:05.620 I mean, I always say the funniest thing 1.00

00:17:07.080 with the Jew counting stuff,

00:17:08.160 because obviously people who don't like Jews count Jews,

00:17:10.640 but Jews also count Jews.

00:17:12.700 Like, my dad, you know, I said this,

00:17:15.940 he sent me this YouTube video on WhatsApp,

00:17:19.760 and the video was literally,

00:17:21.500 here are all the richest Jews in the world.

00:17:24.360 It was a YouTube video.

00:17:25.360 I'm like, what is the source of this video?

00:17:27.960 Like, I didn't know if it was a good thing or a bad thing.

00:17:30.920 Your dad's watching Nick Juventus, right?

00:17:32.720 I was like, we are doing pretty good.

00:17:34.740 I was like, where are you going with this?

00:17:36.940 Like, what's the source of this, you know?

00:17:38.640 And it was just some random channel that was just like making whatever weird,

00:17:42.520 just like, you know, slop kind of content.

00:17:44.640 And then I go to, and it was so funny.

00:17:46.180 That channel had maybe 2,000 subscribers.

00:17:48.880 Every one of their videos was like 400 views.

00:17:51.560 And then this video was like 700,000.

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00:19:38.660 slash trigonometry. But it's so weird, isn't it? Like how suddenly people just became obsessed with

00:19:44.920 that obsessed you know it's the final boss of conspiracy right it also really wasn't there

00:19:50.340 there was early internet that was we used to say that most people that got kicked off the internet 0.84

00:19:55.200 it was from getting into race iq or jew stuff yeah so those were like the things that yeah 0.95

00:20:00.200 those are the forbiddens so then once it became allowed it was like the floodgates

00:20:04.820 i mean my i think it changed a little bit but my instagram like you know reels you know recommended

00:20:12.200 reels at one point a few months ago was basically like gab really four years ago yeah you know like

00:20:18.540 or facebook like you go on there now it's i mean it's crazy like it is somewhat shocking because

00:20:23.860 they were the hardcore censors three years ago and then now they've completely pivoted to like

00:20:29.860 anything goes well it used to be edgy like if you go to normal comedy club you'll see a community

00:20:34.560 like just railing on zionist like then you go that would have been like an edgy thing oh very 1.00

00:20:39.060 But I said conspiracies, I want it to be brought to me 1.00

00:20:41.800 when it's at the, like, nine level.

00:20:43.300 Like, you've done a...

00:20:44.240 I feel like people bring undercooked stuff to you now.

00:20:47.520 Do you know what I mean?

00:20:48.300 Like, your buddy will come, and he'll be like,

00:20:50.220 oh, you don't... check out this thing.

00:20:51.860 And you're like, I don't know.

00:20:52.560 You don't really have that coherent of a thing yet.

00:20:55.160 And he'll be like, okay, believe what you want.

00:20:56.500 And you're like, no, you spend the time.

00:20:58.760 Come back to me when this is at a nine.

00:21:00.960 Yeah.

00:21:01.780 I want fully cooked...

00:21:03.880 Yeah, people are getting fully cooked. 1.00

00:21:06.200 Like, the Netanyahu thing. 0.97

00:21:07.340 I was saying it yesterday.

00:21:08.240 but the netanyahu is dead stuff right now is oh yeah insane and honestly um i it's fact part of

00:21:14.600 it is ai because obviously the ai stuff is people don't know what's real which people who are prone

00:21:20.440 to conspiracies to now say i don't know what's real or what's not anymore is probably not good

00:21:26.380 for their mental health like nothing is real anymore dude it's scary man like you can make

00:21:31.100 anything true for a while and people will believe it i think and this is like the beginning now

00:21:35.320 Yeah, like 20 years from now, there are still going to be people who are like, yeah, Netanyahu died March 8th, 2026, died.

00:21:42.100 And the original video, if you've seen the original video that people source, was this Indian reporter where he goes, yeah, they hit this building in I think it's Tel Aviv or something.

00:21:52.040 And then at the 23 second mark, he's like, yeah, there's Netanyahu right there.

00:21:55.040 He's walking around inspecting the thing.

00:21:57.240 And that's the video that people are saying proves the Netanyahu's dead.

00:21:59.980 He's in the video.

00:22:01.560 Dude, he's lying about something.

00:22:02.680 I have a member of my family who shall remain unnamed who believes that Hitler is alive.

00:22:11.020 I mean, just based on-

00:22:13.120 And he's the co-host of the voice cast.

00:22:15.960 And lives in Atlantis underneath the ocean.

00:22:18.560 Oh.

00:22:19.560 And this is someone I know.

00:22:20.560 How old would Hitler be? 0.98

00:22:21.560 Yeah, see, I would need more. 0.99

00:22:22.560 I need you to bring me a little more than just that.

00:22:23.560 I feel like that is lacking in evidential basis, you know?

00:22:27.060 How old would he be at this point?

00:22:28.060 Like one in the- 0.88

00:22:29.060 Well, Hitler- 0.76

00:22:30.060 136. 0.85

00:22:31.060 Why do you-

00:22:32.060 I don't know you're quibbling with this.

00:22:34.620 He thinks he lives on Atlantis.

00:22:36.700 I feel like that's the more dubious claim.

00:22:39.020 People have lived to 136.

00:22:41.500 But those are fun people.

00:22:42.900 Like, if you have a friend that's super into that stuff,

00:22:45.420 that is a fun guy.

00:22:46.300 That is a fun guy because there's no...

00:22:48.740 Like, there's conspiracies that have no stakes, you know?

00:22:52.020 Like, flat Earth.

00:22:53.060 Like, people are like, the Earth is flat.

00:22:54.180 And you're like, there's no stakes here.

00:22:55.340 Like, it doesn't matter if someone believes the Earth is flat.

00:22:58.340 And so those are, yeah, those are the most fun.

00:23:00.300 I find them fun with stakes.

00:23:01.540 Yeah, yeah, it's fun with stakes, but the ones that are no stakes,

00:23:04.920 you're like, these are the most fantastical, crazy ones

00:23:06.900 that I'm more prone to enjoying, I guess.

00:23:12.360 I'll have a little bit of flatter.

00:23:15.620 But again, this is, to make it depressing again for a bit,

00:23:19.700 this is where I kind of worry about the merger of this stuff with news,

00:23:23.380 because that's also happening, right?

00:23:25.320 And so, like, somebody, they might have been a serious broadcaster at one point,

00:23:29.280 and now this is what they're doing.

00:23:30.540 And you kind of go, well, it's just a different thing.

00:23:33.220 Like, if someone just does videos about conspiracies,

00:23:35.560 everyone goes, well, I don't take this seriously.

00:23:37.680 But when someone pretends to have a serious claim

00:23:41.520 that they're making about what the truth is,

00:23:43.520 and they've been in a serious position, right?

00:23:45.980 I'll tell you where I'm a little less of a worried than you.

00:23:50.540 And I think that, to be honest,

00:23:51.600 I think that I felt this stuff about the, like, progressive stuff.

00:23:55.060 Or right now, they just had the Manosphere documentary come out.

00:23:58.020 Right.

00:23:58.400 People are kind of up in arms about it, right?

00:23:59.920 And you're just like, that's been over for three years.

00:24:02.880 Who's up in arms about it?

00:24:03.960 Because I haven't, we watched the doc.

00:24:05.540 I mean, every, every press, everything, you know, the same as adolescence when that came out in Britain.

00:24:11.340 Oh, okay, so men are bad.

00:24:12.380 This is evidence of bad.

00:24:12.780 Yeah, can you believe these guys?

00:24:14.020 Oh, right, right, right.

00:24:15.000 So it talks to masculinity about it.

00:24:16.600 It's kind of over.

00:24:18.100 So, you know, things in, especially America, which is the center of this, things really come and go quick.

00:24:24.620 Like, people do get pretty bored of stuff pretty quick.

00:24:27.620 So I think when it's kind of like,

00:24:29.120 oh, this thing is really bad,

00:24:30.880 like, I'm like,

00:24:31.840 it's the fact that everyone's saying that,

00:24:34.360 it's already a top.

00:24:35.300 Like, if you think of it as like a stock,

00:24:36.700 like people are already bored of it.

00:24:38.260 Right, right, right.

00:24:38.740 So that's where I just get less,

00:24:41.140 I don't get worried about things.

00:24:41.360 No, that's so true, man.

00:24:42.420 Your president nearly gets assassinated.

00:24:44.260 You talk about it for a week.

00:24:45.300 I mean, we're not even talking about the Epstein files anymore.

00:24:47.080 It's just a new thing.

00:24:47.840 Yeah, let's not talk about it.

00:24:50.620 So yeah, that's why I don't get like stressed out.

00:24:53.780 It's kind of funny if you think of it like that way.

00:24:56.400 But you can kind of get stressed out about everything

00:24:58.300 if you're kind of neurotic about it.

00:24:59.220 So your point is people just, like,

00:25:00.480 they move from one thing to the next, yeah.

00:25:02.900 And for a reason, like, a new thing is exciting.

00:25:08.860 Everyone wrings every last dollar out of it,

00:25:11.820 and then it's kind of like,

00:25:13.420 all right, this isn't working as good anymore,

00:25:14.980 and then it's on to the next thing. 0.99

00:25:16.280 It's also partly because of outrage culture.

00:25:18.900 Like, if you think of what all those guys do,

00:25:20.920 like Manosphere guys and people before them,

00:25:23.300 is they built it and ramped it and ramped it 1.00

00:25:25.580 with the outrage and saying the most horrendous shit. 1.00

00:25:28.680 And you can't, like, top it? 1.00

00:25:29.920 No.

00:25:30.140 Yeah, you have to keep going.

00:25:31.460 Yeah, but you can't top it. 0.89

00:25:32.840 Like, Nick Fuentes, after you say Hitler's pretty cool... 0.91

00:25:35.620 Yeah.

00:25:36.160 ...and you like Stalin, which is, again, it's just weird.

00:25:39.380 You can't really like both.

00:25:40.620 Well, you just have to start fighting

00:25:41.560 with the other people in the space.

00:25:42.720 Yeah, then you become drama.

00:25:44.300 You turn into a drama queen. 1.00

00:25:45.420 Right.

00:25:45.940 And drama, honestly, you know, back to the Mark Levin...

00:25:48.760 Drama, everybody loves drama, right?

00:25:50.680 And it can go...

00:25:52.420 It's like a perpetual motion machine.

00:25:53.960 Like, you can just keep going almost indefinitely

00:25:56.380 as long as two sides are willing to.

00:25:58.360 Yeah, well, three more million Epstein files

00:26:00.920 haven't been released.

00:26:01.780 I know, I know.

00:26:02.520 We're getting them.

00:26:03.120 I was joking, though. 1.00

00:26:03.960 We're going to get them if Iran goes sideways. 1.00

00:26:06.460 If things go really bad, because that's how... 0.99

00:26:08.680 Over here, over here, over here.

00:26:10.320 Peter files.

00:26:11.540 Everybody's like, why are you holding them back?

00:26:13.040 And they're like, we just need them for a rainy day.

00:26:17.460 Mr. Rogers is on there.

00:26:20.060 Let's release a few more emails.

00:26:21.720 Sure.

00:26:22.000 Yeah, just kind of...

00:26:23.920 bleed them out a little bit. 0.51

00:26:25.600 Well, your boys are both from Canada.

00:26:27.360 We've had a couple of guests talking about Canada. 0.99

00:26:29.640 Yeah, Poliev. 0.59

00:26:30.660 Yeah.

00:26:31.760 What do you think about Poliev?

00:26:34.160 He's fine.

00:26:36.720 That's the reaction of politicians.

00:26:40.640 This isn't so specifically Canada.

00:26:42.600 It kind of is a Britain thing,

00:26:43.760 but it feels like there's two models

00:26:46.780 that you get the extreme of,

00:26:47.940 which is kind of like the sort of globalist liberal order,

00:26:51.920 which is very much,

00:26:52.780 we need a ton of committees, we need a ton

00:26:55.100 of bureaucracy, we need

00:26:57.100 to make sure everything's safe

00:26:59.040 and then the other side which is

00:27:00.700 you get the most masculine 0.98

00:27:02.480 fucking right, you know what I mean 0.98

00:27:04.520 those are sort of the two options 0.97

00:27:06.700 that you can choose between right now

00:27:08.780 I mean he's the best

00:27:09.760 option that the conservatives

00:27:13.100 have put forth in

00:27:14.400 a decade, because they always just

00:27:17.000 had some stodgy old guy

00:27:18.760 zero personality 0.89

00:27:20.360 like none, like none whatsoever

00:27:22.700 and they would just get smoked every time to Trudeau

00:27:24.900 and everybody just loved, you know, they were

00:27:26.800 mesmerized by them.

00:27:27.520 There is something to when you talk about

00:27:29.640 maybe in this, like even when we were talking about before

00:27:32.160 where politics had gotten crazy, it might be

00:27:34.380 not possible for a conservative

00:27:36.360 to win without

00:27:38.120 accepting that I'm going to be the villain.

00:27:40.780 Like he's kind of, he wants

00:27:42.460 to be the old school, like, no, I'm kind of

00:27:44.360 beloved, but I'm just, you know,

00:27:45.840 he's Canadian, right? He's trying to be nice.

00:27:48.120 He's trying to be nice, but you're like, maybe that's

00:27:50.500 done. Yeah, we tried to get him to slag 1.00

00:27:52.500 off half your country but he refused to do it well you know that's he wants to be prime minister

00:27:56.560 we were like isn't the problem with your country is half the population loves big taxes and is

00:28:01.440 uber woke and he was like no no no that's not true yeah but a lot of canadians have told us

00:28:05.840 that it is yeah what did he say the problem i mean there's probably gonna be a referendum in

00:28:09.900 canada this year on what you want to leave the eu as well uh likely i think one or possibly both

00:28:16.700 of Alberta and Quebec

00:28:18.240 will have a referendum

00:28:19.520 to separate from Canada.

00:28:21.200 Really?

00:28:21.820 Yeah. 0.90

00:28:22.120 Do they want to join America? 0.99

00:28:24.340 They want to become

00:28:25.300 sovereign nations.

00:28:26.500 I don't, 0.97

00:28:26.720 and I know you're always like,

00:28:28.260 Ryan's always like

00:28:29.300 with the Quebec thing at least.

00:28:30.280 Quebec I think is less likely.

00:28:31.740 However,

00:28:32.040 I believe that their separatist party

00:28:34.240 is like leading big time.

00:28:36.340 And you know,

00:28:36.700 they tried in 95.

00:28:38.120 They,

00:28:38.900 it was,

00:28:39.300 I think it was 50.2%

00:28:41.740 to like 49.8% to remain.

00:28:44.780 And it's just 50% plus one.

00:28:46.700 and they leave so it was close in 95 they've always wanted to be you know because they have

00:28:50.740 their own culture but alberta is the one i'm more concerned about because they're kind of the

00:28:54.580 economic uh you know cash cow of the country right well the problem is is a better like you

00:29:00.020 said they kind of pay for everything yeah i mean the foot and then it's fine and they're not

00:29:04.900 represented like they all feel they're like we have zero representation yeah you talk to

00:29:08.800 but it's bizarre because they're so patriotic they're so they're the most patriotic canadians

00:29:14.760 we know probably and that's why they want to leave yes it's it's a bizarre thing but it's very likely

00:29:19.920 well it's kind of like that in the uk we don't have the referendum side of it but what actually

00:29:24.960 a lot of the patriotic people who love britain are leaving because they don't like the direction

00:29:28.760 of travel right it's like um so i kind of make sense to me in that way yeah but poly it's

00:29:33.860 interesting your point about like masculinity stuff because before we he came on we were

00:29:38.960 talking about UFC and he's like into fight you know into combat stuff um but he's very Canadian

00:29:45.200 about it he's quite like yeah yeah yeah you know he wouldn't he was he has class he wouldn't talk

00:29:50.000 you know you said he wouldn't talk smack about the prime minister on foreign soil like yeah it's

00:29:54.260 kind of like an old school very it's hockey class yeah you know you go you finish the game and you

00:29:58.760 go you know he played a good game we did our best out there yeah you fight a guy and then like you

00:30:02.760 shake his hand out yeah you both eat the crap out of each other and then you're having a beer after

00:30:06.360 the game i like that yeah that's what i grew up with i wish more more society went back to that 0.92

00:30:11.780 yeah yeah i and my point is i agree with you but it doesn't get clicks feels like it's over

00:30:17.260 feels like that's been a wrap on that yeah done that tried that uh something happened in 2015

00:30:23.580 my personal life i try to live like that yeah imagine if you saw a good party of tomorrow go 0.65

00:30:30.040 on twitter and call mark carney micro penis and he just started to do all of that i mean that's

00:30:36.200 bernier who's like the far right guy he's he's pretty out there yeah yeah is it really he's

00:30:41.560 pretty out there yeah he's like the far right guy uh-huh in canada he's french guys he's just like 0.99

00:30:45.940 you're all cucks yeah he's he's he says a mile he's probably like the lax bitch 0.99

00:30:50.880 yeah yeah yeah like canadian equivalent probably like nigel farge nigel farge doesn't call it 0.99

00:30:56.880 yeah i would say is uh well maybe it's the french in him see that's the thing about like britain i

00:31:02.160 think maybe Canada from what you guys are saying is we still have the instinct to be a little bit 0.89

00:31:08.120 more classy with it yeah so Farage doesn't actually do this personal bullshit even Farage 0.54

00:31:14.640 even the populists don't tend to to go for it as much uh which I like so I think it's an American 0.65

00:31:20.680 thing part of it is the money like yeah when everyone's a little nicer when the pot of money

00:31:26.460 is smaller yeah you know like take a family that everyone's nice to each other throw a 10 trillion

00:31:32.400 dollar inheritance in there and watch everyone start to get pretty catty pretty quick right and

00:31:36.780 i think that is a big part of it is like the levels of like wealth that are the differences 0.90

00:31:41.260 between these things create a situation where people are kind of catty bitches that that's 0.99

00:31:46.980 that's a really good point but what's going on with canada really because well we lost all the 1.00

00:31:51.640 hockey so not good things are not going well i mean because we always thought that you were the

00:31:58.740 kind of you were americans but you had humility you were sane you were the over canadians over

00:32:04.220 perform in america yeah yeah that would make sense overrepresented in stand-up in comedy for sure

00:32:10.360 right but what like what happened when did you all lose your minds why did you elect trudeau

00:32:16.600 I have a theory that, and Britain's a little like this but Canada more, but America does things and then, like I said, it's three years and then kind of like if you think of a brother that has, he becomes like a goth and all this crazy stuff and then he goes off to college and the younger brother does it more and then he comes back from college and he's like dressed like a normal now and he was like, I thought we were goths.

00:32:39.180 He's like, you're still doing that?

00:32:40.280 Like, I'm a crypto guy.

00:32:41.620 And America is a little bit like that,

00:32:43.340 where it kind of says the craziest stuff.

00:32:45.940 It sort of does it.

00:32:47.140 Everyone else actually does it.

00:32:48.880 And then America moves on. 1.00

00:32:50.100 And they're like, you're still frigging cutting off your dicks? 1.00

00:32:53.520 Right. 1.00

00:32:54.740 Actually, it's so funny,

00:32:55.980 because that is exactly the issue on which I think that's totally happened.

00:32:59.100 America went way further than everybody.

00:33:02.460 And now it's gone totally in the other direction.

00:33:05.600 Yeah, and everybody's just lagging behind.

00:33:07.200 kind of thing yeah so everyone kind of likes behind i was thinking in terms of music like

00:33:11.160 and especially you talk about canada but you can also talk about like the parts like quebec for

00:33:14.540 example if you're in like a popular band in america it might look like that and then you

00:33:19.480 never hear about him again right that guy goes to like quebec and he's like as famous as he was

00:33:24.240 at the time or that guy goes to amsterdam or some of these other places it just didn't go

00:33:29.380 like that the same way right so you always hear about these one-hit wonders that are like very

00:33:33.100 popular other cultures also do that yeah you know and you'll go and see you go the quebec i know i

00:33:38.860 keep mentioning it but it's a it's a it's kind of has that uh quality where you'll go and see a guy

00:33:43.760 that looks very much like a skateboarder from 1990 wearing the same brand the same clothes and you

00:33:49.200 go it's like whereas in uh new york that was so you know you haven't seen that in 15 years yeah 0.93

00:33:55.360 yeah it's such a good point actually because it all comes from here all the shit yeah i remember 0.89

00:34:02.000 it's the cultural engine of the world yeah and it's it's never that well it's sometimes it's a 0.98

00:34:06.440 good stuff no it's hold on it's both it's all the good stuff and all the shit stuff and they come 0.66

00:34:11.360 packaged together well sometimes it comes from the other the other place into america and then 0.56

00:34:16.320 america i always think i think ska music's like such a funny like britain was big you know like

00:34:21.520 pumpkin ska was like big you know the specials and all that britain and those that was like a

00:34:25.440 thing that was kind of there forever it came to america within a year and a half there was 10

00:34:30.700 thousand bands doing it they were all popular there's no doubt you had 19 trumpet players

00:34:35.020 wearing costumes and then you never heard about it ever again and so they they take other cultures

00:34:40.060 sometimes and chew it up and spit it out a bit too yeah it's true but go pushing back on what 0.52

00:34:44.540 you say like you say it's all the good we don't get the positive attitude the can-do spirit

00:34:48.820 the american like you can do anything man we just get trans and oh i hate myself and the tv shows 0.73

00:34:56.360 yeah yeah but like which is also trans yeah yeah and yeah and because so i i'm just hoping that

00:35:04.240 canada is going to come to its senses and gonna become sane honestly i thought the hockey thing

00:35:09.120 was actually a good thing for canada because that's such a huge part of our identity and the

00:35:13.480 fact that we lost we lost in men's women's and paralympics to the u.s and i honestly think that

00:35:20.520 is will be some kind of reset where people not like a hard reset but where people are like oh

00:35:25.940 You know, things are not going in the right direction here.

00:35:28.460 Do you meet a lot of people that are in real life from Toronto

00:35:32.080 that are on board with, like, the craziest stuff?

00:35:34.700 It feels like it's just embedded in bureaucracy right now,

00:35:36.960 and that takes a while to weed out.

00:35:38.420 Yeah.

00:35:38.980 But public opinion, I don't know anyone.

00:35:40.520 I follow Toronto politics, and, you know, they have Olivia Chow.

00:35:44.180 I don't know if she's the mayor. She's nuts. 1.00

00:35:45.740 Like, they're trying to pass a resolution right now 0.99

00:35:48.900 to not allow ICE at the World Cup.

00:35:51.820 Or, yeah, ICE at the World Cup in Toronto.

00:35:53.960 know. There's no ICE agents in Canada. But they just have to, you know, performatively say we

00:36:00.260 will not, because of what's going on, we will not allow ICE agents to be roaming the streets of

00:36:04.440 Toronto. All right. That's like me saying, I'm making a law that when I go out, I'm not going

00:36:08.340 to allow 10 girls to suck me off at once. It would have happened if I had for not for this law. 0.99

00:36:14.740 Right. But that's the kind of stuff they do. But I don't know. I mean, people like, you know, 0.90

00:36:19.640 with the last election,

00:36:21.720 Poliev was, what,

00:36:22.380 like almost 85%

00:36:23.940 at one point to win?

00:36:24.880 Yeah, and then Trump

00:36:25.540 came along.

00:36:26.360 Trump came along,

00:36:27.100 but still lost.

00:36:27.880 I mean, people, like,

00:36:29.360 they're just,

00:36:29.780 I think if you look

00:36:31.360 historically at the voting

00:36:32.300 in Canada,

00:36:32.880 it's something like

00:36:33.820 two-thirds go to the Liberals.

00:36:36.420 So, you know,

00:36:36.960 it is a,

00:36:37.760 whereas here,

00:36:38.420 it's pretty 50-50.

00:36:40.180 Right?

00:36:40.540 Like, it seems like

00:36:41.500 everybody gets their turn

00:36:42.460 and it goes pretty even.

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00:38:08.180 description of this episode give it a go but the thing is it's like you i i know what you mean

00:38:16.240 i i still can't forgive you for electing trudeau twice do you know what i mean he had three times

00:38:22.080 twice no three times three times yeah he had three times because he had yeah yeah he had

00:38:27.940 he had uh i think he because you know it's similar to your system in the uk where

00:38:33.020 you don't have to serve out your whole term you can just call an election

00:38:35.720 if you think you're going to win.

00:38:37.180 And so I think after like a two or three year period,

00:38:39.260 he called another one.

00:38:40.300 He got elected because Stephen Harper,

00:38:42.260 who is the conservative,

00:38:43.460 was in office for 10 years,

00:38:44.680 did a great job and people were just tired.

00:38:47.440 They just wanted something new.

00:38:50.280 But why did he get reelected after that? 1.00

00:38:52.500 Because Canadians are idiots. 1.00

00:38:55.740 I wish Pierre Pollard had said that. 1.00

00:38:57.440 That would get a lot more views.

00:39:00.200 I mean, objectively, Canada is not in a good spot.

00:39:04.540 Like, they just released, you know, happiness index.

00:39:07.200 And when you were living in Canada, they always had, like,

00:39:09.100 we're one of the happiest countries on Earth.

00:39:11.300 We're one of the most prosperous countries on Earth.

00:39:13.080 Now, I think they're, like, 70th or something.

00:39:16.860 You know, like, by every metric,

00:39:18.920 Canada is doing way worse than it was 10 years ago.

00:39:22.700 Well, right, and this is another thing about your point 1.00

00:39:24.580 about America creating crazy shit and then moving on quickly, right? 0.99

00:39:27.900 America created this whole thing about net zero 1.00

00:39:31.020 and obsession with, like, green energy.

00:39:33.100 Yeah.

00:39:33.460 To the point where if you actually start to implement it the way these crazy people wanted,

00:39:37.760 you start to ruin your economy.

00:39:39.020 Except America never did that.

00:39:41.180 They just had some crazy people, but they never actually ruined their economy. 1.00

00:39:45.480 They kept fucking digging for oil, digging for gas. 1.00

00:39:48.280 All of that keeps happening just fine. 0.99

00:39:50.320 In fact, bringing more manufacturing here is wonderful. 0.97

00:39:52.820 Whereas we in Europe are basically like fucking shutting the lights off. 0.95

00:39:55.820 And then they come back and they're like, all right, we got rid of all our nuclear. 0.98

00:39:58.420 We got rid of all of this and all that. 0.83

00:39:59.680 What did you guys do?

00:40:00.320 And they're like, what?

00:40:01.400 And they're like, you told me.

00:40:02.540 I did.

00:40:02.900 That was a paper! I wrote a paper.

00:40:05.360 And the Chinese guys in the back 1.00

00:40:07.900 just fucking laughing at everybody 1.00

00:40:09.500 going, you're so retarded. 1.00

00:40:10.980 Yeah, exactly. 1.00

00:40:11.900 I also feel like America is kind of like...

00:40:14.580 Because it is so...

00:40:15.380 It's like a bar

00:40:18.380 that still has 1.00

00:40:20.560 the most women 1.00

00:40:22.220 but a lot of other things are falling apart 1.00

00:40:24.780 but like the women's opportunity. 0.97

00:40:26.780 So it's like, and other people are like,

00:40:28.200 you have to go, this place is way better.

00:40:29.900 It's like, has the best...

00:40:31.340 Yeah, they make the best espresso martini.

00:40:33.880 It's clean. 1.00

00:40:34.360 And you're like, yeah, but the bitches are over here. 1.00

00:40:37.400 And you go, that's really the only thing that matters 1.00

00:40:39.900 is where's the opportunity to make more money.

00:40:41.640 Like for most people,

00:40:42.440 that's kind of why people want to come here.

00:40:44.100 So all that other stuff is,

00:40:45.880 while you have that,

00:40:48.020 what else kind of really matters

00:40:49.820 in terms of where people want to go?

00:40:51.160 Sure.

00:40:51.620 Yeah, but there's some things that, you know,

00:40:53.600 give me some hope with Canada.

00:40:54.660 Like the, I saw the other day,

00:40:56.680 some guy broke into someone's house

00:40:58.400 because there was like this crazy epidemic in Toronto

00:41:00.780 of people of home invasions and car thefts well what's a home invasion it's a burglary oh it's

00:41:06.340 a burglary but look they they're my the exaggerate plus they have guns so everything's a little more

00:41:11.040 exaggerated yeah in the uk it's like a burglary no no you're like home invasion no no but they

00:41:16.260 were like serious they so they had this is the level of they're invading you know the united

00:41:20.180 states states here have castle castle doctrine where basically if someone is in your home you

00:41:25.220 can just kill them yeah yeah like if someone who's not supposed to be in your home is in your home 0.99

00:41:28.160 you can just kill them. 1.00

00:41:28.960 And it goes sideways. 1.00

00:41:30.280 Like, you know, you hear things about

00:41:31.780 someone goes to turn around their car

00:41:34.820 in someone else's driveway.

00:41:36.440 Pretty normal thing.

00:41:37.520 I've done that.

00:41:38.460 Literally gets gunned down.

00:41:40.340 Literally in this country,

00:41:41.760 you get gunned down

00:41:43.180 for just using someone's driveway

00:41:46.080 because you just need to turn around.

00:41:49.380 Okay?

00:41:49.980 Is that true?

00:41:50.640 Yes.

00:41:51.120 Yes, it's happened many times.

00:41:53.140 Just like some old...

00:41:54.420 There's literally, like,

00:41:55.060 this country's full of just, like, 1.00

00:41:55.960 old guys sitting on their porch 0.98

00:41:57.980 with loaded guns, right?

00:42:00.180 But so in Canada, this is in Ontario,

00:42:02.800 some guy broke into somebody's house.

00:42:05.120 I don't remember where exactly.

00:42:06.420 Northern Ontario.

00:42:07.400 Breaks into his house three in the morning

00:42:08.960 with a crossbow, okay?

00:42:11.400 Breaks to rob him and, you know,

00:42:13.120 the assumption is this person wants to harm me.

00:42:15.660 Right, fair?

00:42:16.660 Yeah.

00:42:17.080 So the guy takes the crossbow from him,

00:42:19.860 grabs a knife, stabs him up,

00:42:22.400 and then gets arrested for stabbing the guy too many times.

00:42:25.580 Right, which is like, here is unheard of,

00:42:27.560 but then last week

00:42:28.940 the reason we're not reacting

00:42:30.040 is because in Britain

00:42:30.800 that's exactly what would happen

00:42:31.860 yeah

00:42:32.160 that same thing

00:42:33.120 right

00:42:33.340 yeah yeah

00:42:33.740 but so now they're actually

00:42:35.060 trying to push

00:42:36.180 like a castle doctrine

00:42:37.460 kind of thing

00:42:38.080 I don't know about

00:42:38.960 all throughout Ontario

00:42:39.840 or Canada

00:42:40.560 but in Ontario

00:42:41.300 and a guy broke

00:42:43.020 some people broke

00:42:43.680 into someone's house

00:42:44.320 in Toronto

00:42:44.820 like last week

00:42:45.640 the guy shot them

00:42:46.900 and the premier is like

00:42:48.260 great

00:42:48.740 good stuff boys

00:42:49.640 like let's

00:42:50.540 they should totally 1.00

00:42:51.820 shoot them 1.00

00:42:52.300 and so they're coming around 1.00

00:42:53.720 to some of this stuff

00:42:54.620 but it had to get

00:42:55.740 really bad

00:42:56.440 for them to have

00:42:57.080 some common sense about this and you just go why did you need to let it get this bad yeah do you

00:43:02.240 never have that like yeah i kind of get you know that you were just like oh there's no such thing

00:43:07.820 as gender and that's kind of cool and blah blah blah whatever you know you may think it is but

00:43:12.460 did you have to get to chopping dicks off right you know what i mean i mean you think it's that

00:43:17.300 bad in canada where we have uh you know socialized health care there was a person who wanted both a 1.00

00:43:25.000 penis and a vagina. There was no Canadian surgeon who could provide the service because they didn't 1.00

00:43:31.600 have the know-how. So then there was this huge debate about whether the Canadian government

00:43:35.380 would foot the bill to send them to Austin, Texas, to have the surgery. I really wouldn't

00:43:40.300 think it could be done in Austin. You know what I mean? And they voted in favor of it. So the

00:43:45.720 Canadian government was like, we will pay to send you to America to have a surgery so you could have 1.00

00:43:51.560 both a penis and a vagina. 1.00

00:43:53.260 And the only thing they said was, when you use it, 1.00

00:43:55.760 you do have to say, pick your poison.

00:43:59.200 That was written into the...

00:44:01.000 Yeah, that was in the bill.

00:44:02.900 But that is, I mean, I imagine similar crazy stuff

00:44:05.160 is happening in the UK. I don't know if to that extent...

00:44:07.440 No.

00:44:08.680 What, they send them to Thailand or something?

00:44:10.240 Billy, can you look up...

00:44:11.120 Can you please look up if Britain has ever given anyone 1.00

00:44:15.120 a penis and a vagina on the NHS? 0.99

00:44:18.160 Can we get... 1.00

00:44:18.640 Or can you get the surgery in Britain?

00:44:20.320 I feel like Thailand, they've been doing that for 20 years, probably. 0.99

00:44:24.600 And also look up, does it count as a threesome? 0.97

00:44:29.980 But you've got to think...

00:44:31.380 That's a complex operation, man.

00:44:33.700 Yeah.

00:44:33.980 I mean, it's the... 0.99

00:44:36.120 Remember the first season of South Park with the doctor who gave everybody eight asses? 0.99

00:44:40.180 Yeah, yeah. 0.98

00:44:40.760 I think it was a brand based on some Martin Brando movie or something.

00:44:44.200 It's that.

00:44:44.940 It's a plastic surgeon getting high on his own supply.

00:44:46.960 It's, you're like, if you found out, like, in a normal world,

00:44:49.940 if you found out a surgeon was doing this, you're like, 1.00

00:44:52.820 No, no, fuck you, man. 1.00

00:44:54.900 That's how I know you're Canadian. 1.00

00:44:56.260 You don't have a dream.

00:44:58.080 That is a pinnacle for a plastic surgeon.

00:45:00.480 Maybe what's happened here is just a medical issue.

00:45:02.700 They've basically run out of things to, like, pioneer, right?

00:45:05.720 Because every surgeon wants to be the first surgeon to, like, do this,

00:45:09.440 separate the conjoined twins, pediatric conjoined twins,

00:45:13.840 and maybe the level, like,

00:45:15.560 the only place you can go from there 1.00

00:45:17.920 is, like, penis on top of a giant. 1.00

00:45:19.700 What about this, though? I'll do you one better. 1.00

00:45:21.320 What if you were the surgeon or the doctor

00:45:23.000 that could fix their brains to not want that?

00:45:26.740 That's transphobic.

00:45:28.820 Yes, Billy, go on.

00:45:30.360 Yes, the NHS provides

00:45:31.520 gender-informed and gender-informed surgeries

00:45:33.060 by bottom surgery to transgenerate patients 0.93

00:45:35.620 including palatoplasty to create a penis 0.67

00:45:37.900 and vaginoplasty to create... 1.00

00:45:39.820 No, no, no, no, Billy, Billy, there's levels.

00:45:42.080 Billy, there's levels to this game.

00:45:44.620 You ever heard that?

00:45:45.360 You ever Rozelle, the rapper,

00:45:47.040 when he says he's going to do the beat

00:45:48.300 and the chorus at the same time? 1.00

00:45:50.720 No, we're talking penis on top of vagina. 1.00

00:45:53.740 It's like a turduckin. 1.00

00:45:54.640 So you've got... 1.00

00:45:55.980 Also look into turduckin. 1.00

00:45:56.800 Do you know what a turduckin is? 1.00

00:45:58.080 Yeah. 1.00

00:45:59.780 So where they've got both.

00:46:01.920 They've got both, yeah.

00:46:03.600 Also, see, Billy...

00:46:04.560 Yeah, do that in the incognito mode.

00:46:06.240 Do you know, Billy is such a...

00:46:07.280 Can I get hands for feet and feet for hands?

00:46:09.180 Yeah.

00:46:09.780 Billy is such a good boy from a good family.

00:46:11.760 He can't imagine all these things.

00:46:13.560 Like, for him, this is way out of the realms of the possible way.

00:46:15.500 Well, this guy imagines it all the time.

00:46:18.560 I believe that, though.

00:46:21.720 Is that the most insane thing to happen in Canada?

00:46:24.260 Is that the singular?

00:46:25.660 That's up there.

00:46:26.820 I mean, obviously, the medical-assisted dying stuff,

00:46:33.060 which obviously, like, I'm totally, you know,

00:46:35.040 this is a pretty contentious issue in Canada.

00:46:37.000 I'm totally fine if you have some terminal illness 0.84

00:46:39.080 and you want to, you know, like, my life is just miserable.

00:46:41.760 but like now they're saying we're extending it to mental health like there was some guy who had

00:46:47.280 i think there was a guy who had seasonal affective disorder which you're like you just need to get

00:46:50.720 through three months if they did that in america within a week you would see just like dying

00:46:54.860 billboards all of a sudden you know but they were looking to die call will matai well yeah like

00:47:02.100 depression they're like we'll kill you for depression right yeah when i grew up you had

00:47:06.260 to do that yourself if you go to toronto this is another example how the society's gone soft 1.00

00:47:18.080 you know what i mean yeah well i mean that's i mean that you know i think take some fucking 0.95

00:47:22.120 responsibility i will say the thing with america you know they have so many guns here and they're 0.90

00:47:25.900 like we have so many gun deaths and you're like a lot of those are people taking things into their

00:47:29.900 own isn't it true that you have more guns per person uh you're just not that violent well there's

00:47:35.660 a lot of guns. No, Canada. There's a lot of like long guns for hunting. Right. You know, you know,

00:47:42.620 I've like my friend in Toronto, he has tons of guns. He has an AR-15. He has, but they're so

00:47:48.220 strict with how you handle guns. Like if he wants to go hunting, he has to call the police station

00:47:54.960 and say, I'm going hunting. I'm going to be driving from here to here. These are the roads

00:48:00.980 I'm taking. So if you get pulled over, basically you're not in trouble. If you were to get pulled

00:48:05.280 over and you didn't basically tell them in advance,

00:48:07.440 then you're in all sorts of

00:48:08.880 problems. That's insane.

00:48:11.120 Yeah, they're very strict with it.

00:48:13.260 But Canada has that authoritarianism,

00:48:15.720 doesn't it? Oh, yeah.

00:48:17.040 Because when you hear people talk about it,

00:48:19.380 it sounds like this, it sounds like 0.77

00:48:21.340 Britain, but even more mental,

00:48:23.140 which I struggle to believe.

00:48:25.000 Well, something, I will say, you know, a lot of people

00:48:27.220 obviously hate Mark Carney. He was,

00:48:29.320 he is funny because he ran as, you know,

00:48:31.120 basically opposition to Trump, liberal guy.

00:48:32.980 And then he came in and he kind of

00:48:34.780 tacked a little to the center you know he you know all these bureaucrats oh you want to hear

00:48:39.740 something crazy canada has 60 000 uh active military members they have 90 000 members of the

00:48:47.380 uh canadian revenue agency with the irs agents more tax agents they have i believe america has

00:48:55.620 i don't know 100 something thousand canada has 90 000 for a population 10th of the size wow yeah

00:49:01.900 Like, it's a bureaucratic nightmare in the country.

00:49:04.620 Like, you know, I don't know what the percentage is,

00:49:06.680 but a huge percentage of people work for the government.

00:49:09.120 I mean, you know the thing,

00:49:11.160 and we can kind of empathize with each other about this,

00:49:14.000 or sympathize, rather.

00:49:15.080 We don't live there.

00:49:17.880 I like Toronto.

00:49:19.800 Yeah, I like Canada.

00:49:21.000 I like Toronto.

00:49:21.840 If it wasn't hard to make it, you know,

00:49:25.960 kind of, like, do anything...

00:49:27.640 If you're trying to do anything, especially in entertainment,

00:49:29.460 but also other industries,

00:49:30.440 if you're trying to build something huge,

00:49:31.840 it's very difficult to do it in that country.

00:49:33.720 But the actual city of Toronto.

00:49:35.000 Yeah, it's great.

00:49:35.920 I mean, I say all this stuff because I'm like,

00:49:38.240 I want it to be better.

00:49:40.460 I'm not like, oh, I rested piss Toronto.

00:49:43.880 Why is it better to build something here?

00:49:47.980 I guess you'd separate the industries a little bit,

00:49:50.880 but obviously there's like a brain drain

00:49:53.140 and there's like, well, why is there a brain drain, right?

00:49:55.420 So a big part of it is that

00:49:57.920 when you create kind of like a socialized version,

00:50:01.100 like, you know, if we have socialized television,

00:50:02.960 like you have BBC, all those sort of things, right?

00:50:06.320 Because they're not tied at all into the market,

00:50:09.040 they can't move properly, right?

00:50:11.200 So it's very difficult to like build

00:50:14.880 in like a current environment.

00:50:16.360 It's sort of like this thing that operates isolated.

00:50:18.600 And imagine you were starting a company

00:50:20.400 and then randomly a bunch of other companies,

00:50:23.600 the government's going to subsidize them.

00:50:25.140 So you just, it's essentially the government deciding

00:50:27.880 like you're doing a company and they go we're doing red shirts that's what we want to make

00:50:31.360 and you go well people don't want to buy those and they go oh we don't we don't care but if you

00:50:34.820 want to make what we do want to buy also we're going to subsidize your competitors so they can

00:50:39.300 sell cheap it just becomes difficult in a lot of industries and then the opportunity is not there

00:50:45.260 but it's a great place to for people to for example in stand up like get great while no

00:50:49.760 one's watching and then come here yeah kind of in there's like 12 probably maybe 15 big clubs

00:50:54.720 entire country yeah something like that like it's not uh not particularly easy i don't know why you

00:51:01.660 know in britain they have basically uh you know when you look at the 500 top companies for example

00:51:07.740 like why do less of them why don't a lot of them come from britain in your opinion well it's it's

00:51:13.180 the same reason plus all the other stuff we talked about the energy cost net zero they make it very

00:51:19.620 difficult to employ people very difficult to fire people so it's it's just what you're saying

00:51:23.920 inflexible right it's not adaptable very well um so what a lot of companies are not listening also

00:51:29.560 taxes are ridiculously high so you put like a regulatory capture it's true it's true taxes are

00:51:36.020 pretty high here i mean i i think i pay the same or more in taxes in new york city than in ontario

00:51:42.660 minus you know free health care right but but think about this though in in in terms of the

00:51:47.820 overall country there's if you want to run a manufacturing business you wouldn't run it in

00:51:51.560 you'd run it somewhere else right so uh there's more room for people to do different things based

00:51:57.240 on what they want to do whereas like it was just like during covet if you if you hated the covered

00:52:02.440 restrictions you could go to you know florida or texas and you'd have less we don't have that like

00:52:08.200 we had one rule for everybody and you can't move anywhere there isn't we like we can't just move 0.93

00:52:12.920 to belgium not least because belgium also have the same retarded rules like you see what i'm saying 0.92

00:52:17.080 yeah yeah so it's like because of post-brexit where you lost your mobility like because you 0.91

00:52:21.660 could before that no no but but it's like belgium has a different language a different culture like

00:52:26.000 you're not going to do that within america you can move around yeah yeah america has everything

00:52:30.680 literally every temperature you want and like every culture you want it's just has everything

00:52:35.460 except one thing that we have in europe history history yeah they got some history here not

00:52:40.580 deep european history but i've been making arguments in public for long enough to know

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00:54:00.200 One of the things, do you find this quite annoying?

00:54:02.820 It's like when you go into a comedy club or like there's a group of comedians or a group of people,

00:54:07.120 particularly in America, and you say, I'm from Canada,

00:54:10.380 what happens is you just get loads of Canadian jokes.

00:54:13.840 It's like every time I walk into agreement

00:54:15.880 and I say I'm from London, 0.88

00:54:16.800 they're like, oh, you're gay, you know? 0.98

00:54:19.740 They're like, because English, Europeans are gay. 0.99

00:54:21.820 Look at you sniggering away. 0.99

00:54:23.580 That's the exact kind of joke you'd make.

00:54:25.760 Is that because I'm from London?

00:54:27.380 Oh, were you from London?

00:54:30.160 Have you been stabbed yet?

00:54:32.640 Do you know what I mean?

00:54:33.260 And you just get all of these jokes.

00:54:35.380 And after like the eighth or tenth time, 0.97

00:54:38.820 it gets fucking annoying. 0.98

00:54:40.560 You're feeling patriotic there, my friend. 0.98

00:54:42.060 Yeah, I actually get a little bit patriotic.

00:54:44.280 We don't have accents, which is probably a huge difference.

00:54:47.480 Yeah.

00:54:48.080 Yeah, I mean, even you, you're Canadian.

00:54:51.460 We kind of fly under the radar a bit. 0.84

00:54:53.720 Unless we tell on ourselves.

00:54:56.220 Toronto's a city not that different from here.

00:54:58.340 To me, I don't think that much about Canada, 0.97

00:55:00.820 but Toronto, I'm like a city sick.

00:55:03.340 Yeah, Toronto's great.

00:55:04.020 Vancouver's amazing.

00:55:04.820 Montreal's fun. 1.00

00:55:05.760 See, this is why you're not British. 1.00

00:55:07.060 We would never say that about our own cities, would we? 0.99

00:55:10.180 London's great.

00:55:10.880 We went to London a couple of years ago.

00:55:12.060 I honestly forgot how amazing London was.

00:55:15.680 You're a big fan of that?

00:55:16.520 There's some great things about London.

00:55:18.540 Yeah, I love London.

00:55:19.300 Yeah, well, that's my home.

00:55:20.460 It's a cool city.

00:55:20.840 A little dim.

00:55:22.160 Yeah, but that's all of the UK.

00:55:25.660 You know, before we came here, we had, this is officially, 60 consecutive days when it

00:55:32.320 rained.

00:55:32.900 Yeah. 1.00

00:55:33.340 Yeah, you guys are, you're like Vancouver, bitch. 1.00

00:55:35.420 Like everyone's got, what did you call, seasonal effect? 1.00

00:55:37.960 Seasonal effect.

00:55:38.520 No, it's just a British way of life, mate.

00:55:40.340 Yeah.

00:55:40.480 You know what?

00:55:40.820 yeah

00:55:42.300 yeah that's the thing

00:55:43.340 that I love

00:55:43.880 when I come here

00:55:44.640 it's like the American

00:55:45.700 can do spirit

00:55:46.760 and attitude

00:55:47.440 it takes me about

00:55:49.140 two weeks

00:55:49.780 because I think

00:55:50.300 they're being sarcastic

00:55:51.260 to my face

00:55:52.080 right

00:55:52.560 you know when you go

00:55:53.400 how's your day

00:55:54.120 yeah

00:55:54.580 and they go

00:55:55.440 awesome

00:55:56.140 you're like 0.99

00:55:57.000 that's a bit fucking much 0.97

00:55:58.780 chill out mate 0.96

00:55:59.340 chill out

00:55:59.740 you know what I mean

00:56:00.320 you're gonna tone it down a bit

00:56:02.580 but after a while

00:56:03.800 you kind of imbibe it

00:56:04.900 you learn to love it

00:56:05.640 yeah

00:56:05.880 and then you go back

00:56:06.800 to the UK

00:56:07.280 and everyone thinks 1.00

00:56:07.880 you're a cunt 1.00

00:56:08.700 no there is 1.00

00:56:09.680 that is actually

00:56:10.760 exactly what happened there you know when i talk about like the committees the globalists versus

00:56:15.400 the kind of masculine nationalist or whatever and those are the extremes but there is something about

00:56:20.200 not having to ask for permission kind of like even if you think of it on like a granular level like

00:56:24.200 you and your friends are uh gonna go see a movie or go somewhere to eat there's certain people that

00:56:29.480 are kind of be like oh you know what let's go here you guys will love it trust me and you don't need

00:56:34.040 people's permission and there's certain people that'd be like is this okay like are we on board

00:56:38.040 And then the guy's like, I don't know.

00:56:39.240 And you're like, well, you need to convince everyone first.

00:56:42.260 Like, there's certain people that need to convince everyone first

00:56:44.700 and then do something.

00:56:45.740 And there's certain people that are like,

00:56:47.120 no, I'm going to do this.

00:56:47.940 I'll get you on board.

00:56:48.720 Like, trust me.

00:56:49.440 And there's kind of like,

00:56:50.620 that is a more kind of masculine spirit

00:56:53.240 that is also probably leads to more getting, 0.81

00:56:57.340 probably leads to more catastrophes,

00:56:58.720 but also more great things.

00:56:59.780 Yes, that's definitely true.

00:57:01.460 Yeah, breaking a lot of stuff.

00:57:02.840 It's like that move fast.

00:57:03.840 Move fast, break things.

00:57:05.000 Yeah, that worked out well.

00:57:05.800 It's kind of the ethos.

00:57:06.440 I mean, that was the Facebook slogan.

00:57:09.200 Yeah, the Facebook slogan.

00:57:10.120 So social media.

00:57:10.840 Or Google or something.

00:57:11.400 Let me fassum break things. 0.97

00:57:12.760 All the tech companies now are building their own nuclear reactors here.

00:57:15.980 Yeah.

00:57:16.480 Where it was, you know, nuclear was a dirty word.

00:57:19.500 Yeah, they're building them to power AI.

00:57:22.320 Just so we can make funny memes.

00:57:24.520 Well, even like, okay, you guys just, you know, started your thing.

00:57:27.180 You hired people, like, you know, you did a lot of...

00:57:28.920 There is something to be said about, like, I remember when we did a TV show.

00:57:32.180 Me and my...

00:57:32.500 In Toronto, me and my friends all just, like, made this TV show.

00:57:34.840 We didn't know how to do it.

00:57:35.660 we made like crazy mistakes we're doing like insane things it was just we just did what we

00:57:40.840 thought we would do but i think there is a lot of people that would be like what you can't do that

00:57:45.560 and you're just like yeah you can well you can do anything yeah which is uh that spirit i think is

00:57:51.940 i like that in other people that's so whenever i see other people that are just like now i'm just

00:57:56.380 gonna do it yeah yeah it's like an adventurous yeah it's cool yeah that's awesome we that and

00:58:01.480 that is something we had to learn in america by coming here when we started we didn't have as much

00:58:08.180 of that attitude even though we're very driven people both of us just because you feel more

00:58:12.900 limited in the things you can create so we actually had to see podcasting happening on a high level

00:58:18.780 in america and then when we started coming here we started meeting people and go whoa like

00:58:24.220 like that's a better attitude yeah you're always looking around to be better at things

00:58:28.640 and attitude and skills and whatever.

00:58:31.540 You want to pick that up from other people

00:58:32.980 and it's really much more readily available here.

00:58:36.460 I mean, part of it is the,

00:58:39.200 I don't know what the time was,

00:58:40.300 but the minute mile where the first guy did it,

00:58:42.340 then everyone can do it, you know,

00:58:43.460 four minute mile.

00:58:44.420 So much things are that where you're just like,

00:58:46.280 wait, you can just do this?

00:58:47.760 Right.

00:58:48.280 And build it.

00:58:49.500 On the tech side, though,

00:58:50.880 he's a little more doomerism about the AI.

00:58:53.620 How do you guys feel about the AI stuff?

00:58:55.980 Doomerish.

00:58:56.440 Yeah.

00:58:56.840 Yeah, and I'll tell you,

00:58:57.900 this is one thing that i've felt like a lot lately is people will talk about uh the advancements in

00:59:04.340 medical and the advancements of this and every day on twitter this thing changes everything right

00:59:07.660 right in all of the industries there's an old saying in news where it was like the news is

00:59:12.520 you know uh oh i have the news is right the news is right and then it's really wrong about the

00:59:16.440 thing i know about and then it's right again but there's something about that in every industry

00:59:20.960 that i know really well which is maybe three or four places that i like really understand

00:59:24.920 I've spent 20 years in, not much has changed.

00:59:27.640 And in all these industries that I don't understand,

00:59:31.380 I'm being told everything's changing.

00:59:33.360 So in your personal life, the way that you run your podcast,

00:59:36.560 I'm sure there's little things.

00:59:37.720 Dude, I don't know about this.

00:59:39.220 I mean, I was sitting next to the guy who sells our ads.

00:59:42.560 And I was just looking over his shoulder, because you do.

00:59:45.860 You know, we were talking or something.

00:59:47.000 I looked at a screen and he was asking AI

00:59:49.900 what to tell us about our sales numbers so far in the year.

00:59:54.180 based on all the stuff he's been inputting, right?

00:59:57.300 Like, it's automating a lot of things

01:00:00.500 that people used to do in every...

01:00:02.940 Did you fire him?

01:00:03.660 Yeah, but I'm...

01:00:04.340 I was kind of like,

01:00:06.360 Anton, at some point,

01:00:08.380 the machine will do this for you.

01:00:11.660 You know what I mean?

01:00:12.060 Get a screen protector.

01:00:13.340 But that's an improvement.

01:00:17.040 Assuming that he can do something else.

01:00:18.720 For example,

01:00:19.640 we record with lapel microphones, right?

01:00:22.120 As you know, 0.99

01:00:22.840 the big fucking in your face microphones are much better for audio quality you don't have to process 0.99

01:00:26.880 the sound but we prefer the a the visual and also like how the conversation happens when people don't 0.99

01:00:32.780 have to think about being in front of microphone it's like a stylistic choice because of that we

01:00:37.860 used to spend a lot of money having to process the audio yeah to make it better ai does that now yeah

01:00:44.940 so that person who used to do that job no longer works and your company because of all these

01:00:49.400 productivity grains is growing and you're hiring more people uh actually the evidence is not quite

01:00:54.800 that the evidence is that most people are getting more done and the company is growing but they're

01:01:00.280 not hiring more people you see what i'm saying so people have whereas when you would grow in the

01:01:04.960 future or in the past you would have you would have hired but now ai does the things that you

01:01:09.540 would have hired a person to do yeah this is more broadening out uh because i'm talking about you

01:01:14.380 know there's that that conversation is more about changing everything and you're saying

01:01:17.980 marginal improvements that are great but people aren't getting hired okay but look at when your

01:01:23.500 job for example even in social media how many people do you know i know huns that run a little

01:01:29.980 three-person company that does social media stuff right okay before the internet that was zero uh

01:01:35.660 so that was a million people that have this new job that never exists i mean this is somewhat of

01:01:41.660 a classic argument of you know are there more jobs and less jobs and i guess new industries will be

01:01:46.140 created yeah and i'm not i'm not like my point is not my point is not that i if you could probably

01:01:52.240 give me a bunch of examples and i could be and the argument becomes windows well you just asked

01:01:56.760 me if it changed anything yeah yeah so that's why i was saying because i'm about my argument is not

01:02:00.060 that it changes nothing my argument is that uh the the gains seem marginal uh they aren't changing

01:02:07.540 everything where it's not like this whole industry is being nuked it's usually it's explaining to me

01:02:12.180 how, like, a small company became more productive.

01:02:14.700 So the doomsday scenarios don't seem as real to me.

01:02:19.120 I'm more of a doomer.

01:02:20.300 Well, we already see people who were earning, like,

01:02:23.740 55 grand a year last year, 0.99

01:02:25.460 and now they're in the fucking newspaper. 0.99

01:02:27.840 It's news, so it doesn't mean it's representative, 0.99

01:02:30.100 but now they don't have a job.

01:02:31.680 Yeah.

01:02:32.020 Right?

01:02:32.700 Because, so, but then, look,

01:02:35.200 industries have come and go in the past.

01:02:37.020 Yeah.

01:02:37.160 That's also true.

01:02:37.640 I think it just hasn't happened at this speed.

01:02:39.040 Well, my point is, yeah,

01:02:40.400 And also, a lot of times, it's not just something completely different.

01:02:42.980 I mean, how many people do we know that had a job in broadcast media that now run a little

01:02:47.220 media company themselves?

01:02:48.660 Right.

01:02:48.980 So it's probably a good time if you're somewhat entrepreneurial.

01:02:52.620 It's probably a bad time.

01:02:53.660 You know, there's going to be winners and losers.

01:02:55.280 So the idea that there's like no pain and this is perfect, that's not really my position.

01:03:00.460 I think every day I see like the world is over.

01:03:03.060 And that seems to me overblown.

01:03:07.000 I don't.

01:03:07.400 I don't.

01:03:09.120 I'll tell you, I don't like it.

01:03:10.400 Wait, Danny, why don't you?

01:03:11.920 Well, I, you know the guy who started Uber?

01:03:15.880 Travis Kalanick.

01:03:16.840 So he has this new company

01:03:18.200 where he has these ghost kitchens, basically,

01:03:20.960 and he developed this giant machine.

01:03:23.180 And he was on the All In podcast

01:03:24.240 and he's talking about it.

01:03:24.980 He has this huge machine

01:03:25.960 and basically it will automate.

01:03:28.000 If you go to, you know,

01:03:29.000 one of those like slot bowl places

01:03:30.440 like Chipotle or something,

01:03:31.940 the entire process of producing the bowls.

01:03:36.040 And he's talking about how amazing this is

01:03:38.000 and, you know, it'll be so much,

01:03:39.300 you know, every bowl will be the exact same,

01:03:41.600 which, you know, people complain about,

01:03:43.100 and there'll just be one person

01:03:44.340 who needs to cut the vegetables.

01:03:46.160 Otherwise, everything else is automated.

01:03:48.040 And they're having this whole discussion,

01:03:49.340 and at no point are they like,

01:03:50.420 what are these people going to do

01:03:51.980 when you replace them?

01:03:53.740 Like, he's talking about, like,

01:03:55.020 this technology is ready now, right?

01:03:58.560 It takes some time to actually, you know,

01:04:00.540 build it out and scale it out,

01:04:01.960 but it exists now.

01:04:03.980 And at no point are these, you know, billionaires,

01:04:06.060 these guys are all billionaires,

01:04:07.300 no conversation about like what do you what are these people going to do these aren't high-skilled

01:04:11.820 people right right and and you're talking about you know call centers like i think there's a million

01:04:17.880 four million people working call centers in the united states like what are those people going to

01:04:22.160 do like they already have this technology and then you take it and nobody likes a call center

01:04:26.120 nobody likes calling a call center so it's not like some big cell to get rid of this stuff right

01:04:31.800 I think that there's a, but like, there is still, you're making an argument about the detriment that this is going to have on the workforce and the things people need to do, which I somewhat agree.

01:04:40.740 But that is not, the world is completely transformed.

01:04:44.980 Yeah, it's not going to happen overnight.

01:04:46.740 Well, it depends on the percentage.

01:04:47.940 It's going to happen at the speed, it's going to happen at a faster speed than it's ever happened before.

01:04:51.840 Like, what, what unemployment rate takes you into the realms of like, you know, real problems?

01:04:59.960 I don't know what that is, right?

01:05:01.140 but there is 10%. Yeah. And you know, well, I think they're two to seven. I think Canada's

01:05:06.500 but I actually don't think this is, this is even like the job losses are even though the biggest

01:05:11.820 concern about AI, like the biggest concern about AI is artificial general intelligence, which is

01:05:17.740 where it becomes sentient effectively. And that's where like, if you want, if you want to, that's

01:05:23.720 more of the stuff that I'm saying is overblown. The, the, the, yeah, the, that's more of the

01:05:29.860 area where I'm talking about the idea

01:05:31.800 that certain jobs are going to replace

01:05:33.740 that remains to be seen. Kill us is 0.87

01:05:35.720 like, what if the robots 0.98

01:05:37.840 just realize that human beings

01:05:39.860 you know, the

01:05:41.820 best way to help them be happy

01:05:43.780 is to give them this pill that

01:05:45.780 they'll take so that they've got

01:05:47.260 you know, 10 times the serotonin or

01:05:49.740 dopamine or whatever.

01:05:51.660 Sounds nice. Yeah.

01:05:54.140 That's my point.

01:05:55.720 Basically Bravery World.

01:05:57.120 Right. Yeah. Right. And I mean, I think China

01:05:59.460 has the are working on these like artificial womb factories pods yeah like literal artificial like 1.00

01:06:05.700 you know china is and that's another thing everybody thinks china is a little ahead of us 0.98

01:06:09.660 they're way ahead of the united states and this stuff but you know you know china will be happily 0.98

01:06:14.700 just cranking out kids in a factory thanks danny do you know of all the ways i saw this episode 0.95

01:06:23.240 going a debate on ai at the end was not going to be you know but the thing is everywhere you go

01:06:29.440 is what people are talking about.

01:06:30.980 Yeah.

01:06:31.560 Because everybody kind of knows

01:06:32.740 it's impactful.

01:06:33.740 Yeah.

01:06:34.260 Maybe thinks.

01:06:35.220 Maybe Ryan's right.

01:06:35.940 Maybe they just think it's impactful.

01:06:37.260 Sure.

01:06:37.760 I mean, look,

01:06:38.600 when ChatTPD got released

01:06:40.260 a few years ago,

01:06:40.880 I would go in there

01:06:41.520 and it was this novel thing,

01:06:44.180 but I never really found

01:06:45.660 a really good use case. 0.98

01:06:46.820 It seemed too dumb. 0.96

01:06:48.420 In the last three months 0.95

01:06:49.840 is when I'm like,

01:06:51.460 oh, okay,

01:06:52.080 this is different now. 0.99

01:06:53.040 I can get this to do shit. 0.99

01:06:54.300 Yeah, yeah. 0.99

01:06:54.660 Like this is like,

01:06:55.240 you know,

01:06:55.400 I'm having code stuff

01:06:57.140 like make programs for me

01:06:58.800 that I help me like you know clip videos and it's like it's it can do stuff poorly well no honestly

01:07:04.680 not that poorly to be honest wow but uh my clubs are actually pretty good for what for what I needed

01:07:10.320 to but you can make these kind of like bespoke things but you know I'm using it on these niche

01:07:14.540 things like imagine what other people are doing with this stuff right now and you know what's

01:07:19.240 really worrying is that it's getting rid of entry-level white-collar jobs yeah so what it's

01:07:23.540 essentially meaning is there's going to be a huge swathe of people who can't enter the workforce

01:07:27.740 at the jobs that they really want to do.

01:07:30.240 I know someone who's a nutritionist,

01:07:31.860 and she was telling me, she goes,

01:07:33.680 oh, we used to have a nutritionist assistant 0.96

01:07:35.180 to help us all and do all the stuff.

01:07:37.540 She goes, I can now do it with AI.

01:07:39.560 My wife sees a nutritionist,

01:07:41.400 and I say, what did the nutritionist tell you?

01:07:43.180 And she goes, eat broccoli.

01:07:44.940 I'm like, just like the most basic stuff.

01:07:46.520 I'm like, why aren't you just talking to Claude

01:07:48.120 or Gemini or something?

01:07:49.780 Makes, you know, stuff like that.

01:07:50.820 I'm actually, I think the third world 0.87

01:07:52.480 is going to get hurt very badly first. 0.91

01:07:55.300 I think the, you know, Western, like, United States

01:07:58.560 will be the last to really feel this.

01:08:00.340 But, you know, there's a lot of people who,

01:08:02.220 essentially, you know, in the Philippines, India,

01:08:04.300 their whole job is just, like, an arbitrage on cheap labor,

01:08:08.360 where they hire some person in the Philippines

01:08:10.160 to do something that's super cheap. 1.00

01:08:11.720 Call me a dreamer.

01:08:13.880 Guy that used to be, you know, do legal services,

01:08:17.400 guy that used to be a plumber.

01:08:18.400 It's like, right now, it seems, like, insane

01:08:20.540 to run your own business, right?

01:08:21.820 within three years, it's going to be so streamlined the way that, you know, how would I run? How would

01:08:28.080 I be a media company? It was like, well, you just download TikTok and Instagram and you post these

01:08:31.960 videos and it's actually pretty like there's a system for it. There's going to be these systems

01:08:36.160 that exist of like, if you run a small business, this does your taxes, this does this, and you

01:08:39.780 have this one workstation. So there's going to be this guy that used to be, you know, a plumber has

01:08:45.880 a little plumbing company, a guy that used to be this. And I'm just saying I can, for every example

01:08:50.100 you give me i can picture ways in which and i'm i'm seeing them in my own life ways in which people

01:08:56.020 and it seems like quick but it's not it's like over the course of like three years this person

01:09:00.600 went from working here to like they're running their own little thing and i did oh i actually

01:09:04.920 used to need an agency for this now i don't really i used to need this for this now i don't really

01:09:08.740 so it's actually a barrier to entry to everything becomes so the barrier to entry of doing anything

01:09:13.720 becomes very low yeah with all these tools and that allows you know so yeah the people that

01:09:19.280 always get hurt is you're in the middle of your career and you're not mobile. Yeah. So the future

01:09:24.920 is going to be kinder to people that are mobile in different ways. Yeah. But you're assuming that

01:09:29.580 those businesses, you know, there's going to be a lot of people starting these low cost like candle

01:09:33.260 businesses. Well, you said candle. I don't know what type of business. They might be, they might

01:09:38.300 be AI experience businesses. I don't know what they're going to be. Yeah. But there's only so

01:09:42.300 much demand. I don't know. I'm not. Yeah, I guess I'm more on the rose colored glasses. We have

01:09:48.640 started a fight between our guests, which is how we like to end the show. Mission accomplished.

01:09:57.140 We've created division and separation. Everybody hates each other. Welcome to Trigonometry.

01:10:02.780 Fellas, before we head over and ask you questions from our supporters,

01:10:06.660 we actually end on a serious question, as you know. What's the one thing we're not talking

01:10:10.140 about that we shouldn't be? You get one pick each. Sex robots. I'm so agreeing with you.

01:10:15.620 Well, you don't know what he thinks about it yet.

01:10:17.080 No, no, no, no.

01:10:17.920 I know.

01:10:18.920 See, I like Danny.

01:10:20.340 He can't wait for them to come.

01:10:21.880 He thinks they're the best solution to a real problem.

01:10:25.000 Yeah.

01:10:25.260 Right? 1.00

01:10:25.540 And they're better than women. 1.00

01:10:26.740 And you just agreed to them. 1.00

01:10:27.540 Well, they have an off button.

01:10:30.940 That's the main thing, is you can unclog them.

01:10:36.680 Look at Ryan.

01:10:37.520 He looks so full of pride.

01:10:39.400 He's like, yes.

01:10:40.680 You do it, brother.

01:10:41.820 Good joke.

01:10:42.560 You smashed it.

01:10:43.320 Fantastic.

01:10:44.100 Beautiful. 1.00

01:10:44.620 Yeah, all our female viewers have turned off. 1.00

01:10:47.580 All eight of them. 1.00

01:10:48.840 It is true.

01:10:49.660 You don't want to get cocked by a robot.

01:10:51.100 That's not fun.

01:10:52.020 No.

01:10:52.600 I mean, well, you don't know that.

01:10:54.320 Fun is subjective.

01:10:55.260 If you do get cocked, I'd rather be by a robot.

01:10:58.260 Fun is subjective.

01:10:59.180 And then maybe people aren't talking enough

01:11:00.840 about the 10x female ETF.

01:11:05.440 What's the 10x female ETF?

01:11:07.100 So there's an ETF you can buy 0.99

01:11:11.560 that's a female CEO ETF, right? 1.00

01:11:13.660 Badly underperformed. 1.00

01:11:15.740 What the fuck is an ETF? 0.97

01:11:17.100 Exchange traded fund. 0.99

01:11:18.440 It's like an index fund.

01:11:19.500 Oh, like an index fund.

01:11:20.540 Of all the companies that have, you know.

01:11:22.280 So they have all these niche ones.

01:11:23.340 Not doing great, right?

01:11:25.300 But we're saying that.

01:11:26.520 Really?

01:11:27.000 Right now, there's someone at Bear Stearns

01:11:28.660 that has to come in and talk to his clients.

01:11:30.240 He's like, yeah, so we bought Tesla, Amazon, 0.67

01:11:35.060 10x short of the female CEO ETF.

01:11:38.080 And just rebalancing the portfolio.

01:11:41.940 What was that one you just said?

01:11:44.680 There's just nothing there. 1.00

01:11:46.520 Highly leveraged short, the female ETF. 1.00

01:11:50.520 I think, in all honesty, I don't think we're talking enough about Israel. 0.99

01:11:55.900 We do not talk about that at all.

01:11:57.880 Yeah.

01:11:58.540 We never go to Danny's final point about sex robots.

01:12:01.280 Oh, sorry. 0.97

01:12:01.860 Just sex robots. 0.64

01:12:02.820 What do you mean? 1.00

01:12:03.420 He says they're making too many with vaginas, not enough with dicks. 1.00

01:12:07.140 No, we want them both, modular. 1.00

01:12:08.760 You know, you're just going to clip in whatever you want.

01:12:11.440 Hey, man.

01:12:11.940 everybody's worried about all these kids sitting at home,

01:12:14.140 you know, and, like, there's this whole crisis

01:12:16.140 where nobody's having sex anymore, 0.86

01:12:17.540 or this running joke where all the Gen Z stuff,

01:12:19.720 this is just, you know...

01:12:20.380 Yeah, every article about Gen Z sounds like

01:12:22.580 it's making fun of them. 1.00

01:12:23.380 It's like, Gen Z are virgins. 0.99

01:12:27.240 They are. 1.00

01:12:28.040 Are they the gayest generation? 1.00

01:12:31.280 I mean, if the sex robots show up, 0.99

01:12:33.400 like, obviously, I'm sure there's a loneliness crisis

01:12:35.520 that that'll help with,

01:12:37.340 but, I mean, in terms of the population,

01:12:39.520 which is obviously a real issue,

01:12:41.600 Population decline.

01:12:43.320 Can't imagine that'll help.

01:12:44.760 And I can guess that those robots are coming.

01:12:47.660 So you see, we had to end on a depressing note.

01:12:50.180 Thank you, Danny.

01:12:51.900 I'm Doomer Danny.

01:12:53.060 That's what I go by.

01:12:54.140 To make it not depressing,

01:12:55.440 I don't think women are going to want robot boyfriends.

01:12:58.040 And I've said, because I don't think the robot 0.91

01:12:59.940 would know how to lie to the woman, the perfect man.

01:13:02.200 Because he would go, do you want me to lie?

01:13:03.780 And the robot would be like, no, tell me the truth.

01:13:05.820 And he goes, your co-worker sounds like the reasonable one.

01:13:10.860 and on that note all right head on over to triggerpod.co.uk where the boys will answer

01:13:18.920 your questions do you think the woke people who have to hold such contradictory views are closer 0.88

01:13:25.840 to retarded or genius or are most just midwits going along because they think that's what 0.97

01:13:31.500 fitting in with everyone means 0.93

01:13:33.880 guys let us take a minute to recommend another podcast did you know the average podcast listener

01:13:52.820 has six shows in rotation so you're most likely not just listening to trigger

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TRIGGERnometry - April 29, 2026

Triggernometry Meets Hilarious Boyscast - Ryan Long & Danny Polishchuk

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