TRIGGERnometry - Trump is the Most Corrupt President in History - Ann Coulter

00:00:00.000 I think this is the most corrupt presidency in U.S. history.

00:00:06.820 With the money they are raking in with the NFTs and the meme coin,

00:00:11.780 I mean, it is so blatant, it's right in front of our eyes.

00:00:14.380 I don't care about anything but saving the country.

00:00:19.360 He came in on the promise of ending the conflict in Ukraine.

00:00:25.040 In one day.

00:00:25.880 In one day.

00:00:26.560 Likewise with Israel and Gaza, that hasn't been settled yet.

00:00:30.820 Why do you think that is?

00:00:31.940 You may not have noticed this. 0.97

00:00:33.340 Trump is an exaggerator. 0.85

00:00:34.780 Yeah.

00:00:35.960 I have.

00:00:36.860 I've got glimpses of that.

00:00:38.680 It is historically part of Russia.

00:00:40.280 I am not defending him.

00:00:41.280 He invaded the country.

00:00:42.820 Not all of Ukraine is historically part of Russia, but fine.

00:00:46.700 I'm from Russia, so.

00:00:52.320 You said you wouldn't vote for him because he's India.

00:00:54.980 Yeah.

00:00:55.760 For president.

00:00:56.300 Why is my country the only country that is supposed to have,

00:01:00.120 oh, no, anybody can run a country?

00:01:02.080 I haven't had an Indian prime minister.

00:01:04.680 Yeah, I don't think it went that well.

00:01:06.120 It didn't go well, but it wasn't because he was Indian.

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00:02:12.300 And Colter, welcome to Trigonometry.

00:02:13.980 Thank you.

00:02:14.500 It's so great to be here.

00:02:15.620 It's great to have you.

00:02:16.580 You're on a little tour of the UK, so we thought we'd get you in and see what you make of it.

00:02:21.080 How do you feel?

00:02:21.980 What have you made of it so far?

00:02:23.060 Well, I'm technically just on vacation because I love London.

00:02:26.260 Amazing city.

00:02:27.160 It's so fabulous, especially coming from New York.

00:02:30.180 And then just dropped in on some of my right-wing friends like you.

00:02:34.880 We identify as politically non-binary.

00:02:38.680 Okay, just so you know, that's right-wing. 0.96

00:02:42.580 It is now.

00:02:43.800 That's what everyone thinks.

00:02:46.140 In America, that's right-wing.

00:02:48.460 Well, America is very binary.

00:02:50.480 You're like either this or you're that.

00:02:52.280 Well, Twitter.

00:02:52.940 Look at Twitter.

00:02:53.980 V1 just says, I'm not going to censor anybody. 0.98

00:02:56.440 Right-wing nut, Nazi.

00:02:59.720 In the UK, we have more of a spectrum is what I'm saying. 0.76

00:03:02.480 No, it's more than that.

00:03:03.680 You have a lot of conservative media.

00:03:06.460 It's stunning to me.

00:03:07.960 Like what?

00:03:08.380 The Spectator, the Telegraph.

00:03:10.480 The Sun.

00:03:11.420 The Sun.

00:03:12.260 The Mail, the Express.

00:03:13.640 Yes, thank you.

00:03:14.280 The Express is not right-wing.

00:03:15.800 The Express is...

00:03:16.900 Wait, no, sorry.

00:03:17.680 I've confused them with the Daily Mirror.

00:03:19.020 No, it's fair.

00:03:19.960 And a lot of the podcasts, it seems to me, maybe it's just the ones I listen to and I know.

00:03:25.360 Yeah.

00:03:25.860 The only TV show I've always, when I've been in London before, sometimes I watch the TV just

00:03:32.560 to see, to prove to myself once again that British people are incapable of boredom. 0.97

00:03:39.260 Oh my gosh, it's like walking, watching paint dry.

00:03:42.920 But not ITV.

00:03:44.100 That's actually...

00:03:44.760 So, yeah, okay, you have BBC, but it's like, you know, about a sheep or something.

00:03:49.440 You're watching a TV show about a sheep.

00:03:51.620 Well, I'm making that up.

00:03:52.960 It was probably more boring than that, to be honest.

00:03:57.200 But ITV, you kind of actually get some news.

00:03:59.520 So, I would consider that the only news station.

00:04:02.680 So, what have you made of your time in the UK?

00:04:05.000 You've been here for a couple of weeks.

00:04:05.940 You're leaving tomorrow.

00:04:07.400 What do you think about it?

00:04:08.340 It's so fabulous.

00:04:09.200 I can't wait to come back.

00:04:10.200 I love London so much.

00:04:11.320 It's beautiful.

00:04:12.200 And on the drive up here, which is, I think, in Scotland.

00:04:17.920 Yeah, we're in Scotland, though, Rebecca.

00:04:20.900 I went through a few, probably what you guys, and compared to the areas where I've been,

00:04:26.460 seemed a little bit sketchy, i.e. people obviously on drugs, weird outfits, a lot of tattoos,

00:04:34.880 a little more garbage. 0.94

00:04:35.920 And still, in the midst of the sketchy areas, you know, just a beautiful old pub and the 0.63

00:04:40.680 flowers and the window boxes and beautiful streets.

00:04:43.800 Even your sketchy areas are beautiful.

00:04:47.460 Well, it's kind of like New York, right?

00:04:49.460 Where you live, you've got, you know, the people...

00:04:52.140 Like, every time we go to New York, there's someone lying face down on the pavement or...

00:04:56.060 Oh, no, I think we are so much worse.

00:04:58.380 Really?

00:04:58.760 Oh, New Yorkers, this is the heaven.

00:05:01.820 Oh, my gosh, you are so much better off.

00:05:05.060 I mean, being able to walk around at night, sometimes I don't have far to go, and I'll

00:05:09.200 walk home from dinner.

00:05:11.400 Well, under Giuliani and Bloomberg, Republican mayors dominated New York for 20 years, and

00:05:18.360 it was so safe.

00:05:19.300 It was paradise.

00:05:21.060 I do normally, I used to think New York is the greatest city in the world, but it has

00:05:26.100 just gone so much to hell right now. 0.79

00:05:28.260 Homeless people. 1.00

00:05:29.460 You know, I met a...

00:05:30.960 I'm going to talk to a lot of British people, but a friend of my friend is like the queen

00:05:37.020 of Hermes and has a million Hermes boxes or bags and the Birkins and everything else.

00:05:43.920 And they were both telling me, and I don't know, maybe you'll tell me this is exaggerated,

00:05:48.020 that she absolutely cannot carry them in London because they get stolen by the moped guys.

00:05:53.560 I was warned before coming here and by everyone I've run into since being here that I can't

00:05:58.120 wear a watch, which is really annoying.

00:06:00.100 And I told her she ought to come to New York and she can totally walk around with a Birkin 1.00

00:06:06.460 bag in New York. 0.99

00:06:08.640 She might get raped on the subway. 1.00

00:06:11.060 She could be pushed in front of a subway. 0.99

00:06:13.040 But she can still wear the bag, though.

00:06:14.040 She could be knocked out.

00:06:15.180 But our criminals just want to do like random, heinous violence.

00:06:19.420 They have no plan.

00:06:21.460 Let's get that Rolex.

00:06:23.540 Yeah.

00:06:24.200 Well, so just to fill that out with detail a little bit, you can wear a watch, just not

00:06:27.920 the ones that you have, Anne.

00:06:29.400 Yeah.

00:06:30.620 You can wear a 20-pound watch.

00:06:32.440 You'll be fine.

00:06:33.820 Will they be able to distinguish?

00:06:35.720 Usually, yeah.

00:06:36.420 Well, the guys who rob watches know what they're looking for.

00:06:38.920 Excellent.

00:06:39.320 And that genuinely is true in that people are like, people don't wear nice watches around

00:06:44.200 London.

00:06:44.580 Right.

00:06:45.040 Well, I've been counting on that with my 10-year-old iPhone because that's the other

00:06:49.220 thing they say. 0.94

00:06:50.060 You know, don't be a dork tourist while you're running. 0.99

00:06:52.200 And they'll snatch it. 0.98

00:06:53.240 And I'm hoping they'll look over.

00:06:54.480 Oh, we don't even want that one.

00:06:57.240 But, Anne, your career has been very interesting because you've been very, very pro-Trump

00:07:03.560 in 2016.

00:07:04.620 Then you were one of the first people to come out against Trump because you feel he betrayed

00:07:08.240 the MAGA agenda.

00:07:09.720 How do you feel about Trump now?

00:07:12.860 I'm finally getting the Trump I voted for.

00:07:15.840 What does that mean?

00:07:16.480 I can't believe it took him eight years to actually do this stuff.

00:07:19.160 I mean, in my defense and to attack everyone, which you aren't asking, but when I have Americans

00:07:24.220 MAGA base, the cultists come up to me and say, oh, why have you turned against Trump?

00:07:28.060 I mean, they're just utterly unprincipled.

00:07:30.340 So, OK, they're OK with the policies of Jeb Bush.

00:07:33.780 I think they'd be fine with the policies of Hillary as long as it's the host of The 1.00

00:07:38.160 Apprentice.

00:07:39.280 So if you're someone who didn't vote for Trump because of his personality but voted for him

00:07:44.740 despite his personality, which is me and all of my friends, no, he didn't.

00:07:51.080 He governed like a standard Republican, cut taxes and screw the working class.

00:07:56.420 And so how is this incarnation of Trump different from the previous one?

00:08:01.280 In many, many ways.

00:08:02.700 Most important thing, 100 percent immigration, immigration, immigration.

00:08:07.100 He did immediately do the executive orders on immigration that he promised he would do

00:08:12.620 the first time on anchor babies.

00:08:15.240 Pregnant Mexican runs across the border, drops a baby. 1.00

00:08:17.800 Oh, the baby's an American citizen, which isn't the law. 0.67

00:08:20.720 It's not a court ruling.

00:08:21.940 It's just been the practice. 1.00

00:08:23.060 It's stupid. 1.00

00:08:23.640 He can end it with an executive order. 1.00

00:08:25.140 For four years, he never did that first term.

00:08:28.940 He did that like day one.

00:08:30.760 He's done a lot of stuff sending out the ICE agents, putting the right people in charge 0.99

00:08:35.620 of ICE, like this guy Tom Homan, who is just such a hard ass.

00:08:39.640 He finally put Stephen Miller, originally his only policy advisor, who is rock solid on 0.97

00:08:45.900 immigration.

00:08:47.020 He's been in charge of the immigration policies now.

00:08:49.720 And in this, the big, beautiful bill, I don't know if you heard about it, but it's the reason

00:08:53.860 Trump was insisting on a big, beautiful bill is you basically get one shot as president

00:09:00.300 to get Congress.

00:09:02.100 I mean, the Democrats are doing so badly.

00:09:04.060 Maybe this will prove not to be true.

00:09:06.240 But historically, the president's party loses seats in the midterm.

00:09:10.780 So you kind of have to anticipate that and get everything you need done in the first two

00:09:15.560 years.

00:09:15.800 So he wanted to, you know, dump everything in the big, beautiful bill.

00:09:18.980 And when I was reading, you know, the full analysis in the New York Times, they're starting

00:09:22.420 with all the other provisions.

00:09:24.140 And on that, you know, Elon and Trump had a little tiff.

00:09:28.180 And I'm totally with Elon. 1.00

00:09:29.900 These idiot Republicans will not cut spending. 1.00

00:09:32.800 They won't. 1.00

00:09:33.440 They won't.

00:09:33.860 They won't.

00:09:34.280 And I'm just enraged that they won't cut spending. 0.64

00:09:36.240 And it's all utterly useless stuff.

00:09:37.940 It's the government trying to figure out how to get and to pay more and make my life worse.

00:09:45.380 So I'm going through section by section.

00:09:47.660 And the last section they describe is immigration.

00:09:50.620 Billions of dollars for ICE.

00:09:52.680 Billions of dollars to finally build the wall.

00:09:56.000 And I thought, OK, I'm for it.

00:09:58.680 Love it now.

00:10:00.160 And why is it that nobody can cut spending?

00:10:02.060 Because the people who benefit from the spending, I mean, you're taxing.

00:10:08.640 I worked for the Senate Judiciary Committee, and it was a very junior senator.

00:10:14.420 So we all had to do all kinds of work.

00:10:16.860 So at first, even I had to meet with constituents until they noticed that the senator's ratings

00:10:21.660 would plummet every time.

00:10:23.820 So got off that task.

00:10:26.120 But I really I was I was at the point where I was going to leap across the table and spray 0.99

00:10:31.000 them with MACE because they all have the same argument for their dumbass program, which 0.98

00:10:36.100 is this costs every American less than the cost of a postage stamp. 0.97

00:10:40.580 Well, yeah, there are a lot of Americans and you're all saying that.

00:10:45.340 And the only programs that are more than that are the medical stuff, Medicare, Medicaid and

00:10:50.740 Social Security, the Ponzi scheme retirement program.

00:10:55.260 So we can't touch those.

00:10:56.560 And then there are a million other programs that, yeah, it costs each American the cost

00:11:03.220 of a postage stamp, but only adults pay taxes and only half of adults pay taxes.

00:11:08.160 So it's a little more than a postage stamp. 0.99

00:11:09.960 In any event, everyone who benefits from one of these stupid programs, it's their world. 1.00

00:11:16.520 It is everything. 1.00

00:11:17.740 They are single issue voters. 1.00

00:11:19.180 Are you going to keep my stupid program for my stupid job going, whereas how are you going 1.00

00:11:26.340 to gin up, you know, the American people? 1.00

00:11:28.440 We're going to cut the small program you've never heard of or maybe a big program you've

00:11:32.340 never heard of.

00:11:33.100 There was one.

00:11:33.960 I'll just use this as an example because I'll never forget it.

00:11:39.680 So when Reagan was president, we were winning the Cold War and part of that was, you know,

00:11:43.600 military buildup, military buildup.

00:11:45.220 So there are a lot of new military bases around the country.

00:11:49.200 And obviously, members of the military have children.

00:11:52.780 So they had to set up schools on the military bases.

00:11:56.360 So they were federal grammar schools.

00:11:59.460 And it's a dumb name for it, but it was called Impact Aid. 0.63

00:12:03.200 OK, so we win the Cold War. 0.93

00:12:04.640 Yay.

00:12:04.760 And a lot of the we wait, we save so much money.

00:12:10.180 We get to go way back on defense.

00:12:12.360 The military bases are gone.

00:12:14.640 They've gone off to get other jobs.

00:12:17.260 The military bases are empty.

00:12:18.760 The schools are still getting money.

00:12:22.180 And I forget the people whose entire salary was working for Impact Aid, i.e.

00:12:28.740 a school, schools throughout the nation where there are no students.

00:12:32.900 And their argument, it costs every American less than the cost of a poster sale.

00:12:39.020 You know, so but to me, the issue of spending is actually existential for America.

00:12:46.480 Yes.

00:12:46.960 For our country as well.

00:12:47.960 It's the same.

00:12:48.560 Yeah.

00:12:49.060 We're broke.

00:12:50.260 We are broke.

00:12:51.160 And I don't think people realize that or the long term implications of that.

00:12:55.380 So when Elon had his meltdown and the way that he did it, in the words of Chris Rock, I don't agree, but I understand.

00:13:04.100 I agree.

00:13:05.000 I agree.

00:13:05.740 And I understand personally.

00:13:07.160 Yeah.

00:13:07.320 He's right on the issue.

00:13:08.540 Right.

00:13:08.980 But but I also think you're right in the sense that this is why I asked you why it's happening, because you gave a very American answer because you're talking about America.

00:13:16.660 That's fair enough.

00:13:17.160 But actually, this is a problem across the entire Western world.

00:13:20.500 And part of it, I think, is what you said, which is just people really they're so used to having everything paid for by the government.

00:13:26.960 They only really care about are you going to take care of this thing that I care about?

00:13:31.540 Yes.

00:13:31.720 And if you don't, I'm never voting for you.

00:13:34.180 Well, if no one ever wants to sacrifice a little bit to reduce overall spending, then it's debt and deficit all the way down.

00:13:41.480 Yes.

00:13:42.120 That's why Doge was so great.

00:13:43.940 I mean, they were going in, cutting stuff.

00:13:47.220 I can't believe that we were paying.

00:13:49.220 I mean, it was basically just billions upon billions of dollars funding the left.

00:13:53.300 It was stunning.

00:13:54.400 And I don't know why Congress just couldn't.

00:13:56.240 I don't know how much of this they did, but just enact all of the Doge cuts, because it's really that was the Elon system.

00:14:02.880 It was really all just recommendations you need.

00:14:05.240 And the same thing with Trump's executive orders.

00:14:06.960 You need Congress to pass a law and put it in to make it a law.

00:14:10.920 Yeah.

00:14:11.080 So what did you make of that falling out between Elon?

00:14:13.580 Because we had a lot of these conversations immediately after the election and actually just before as well about the tech right and the MAGA right with very different groupings.

00:14:22.700 And that kind of fissure was almost inevitable, many people felt.

00:14:26.940 How did you see it?

00:14:28.020 Other people predicted it. 1.00

00:14:30.940 I didn't because Trump sucks up to rich people. 0.98

00:14:33.900 And he was very gentle with Elon. 0.98

00:14:35.600 I mean, everybody else.

00:14:37.300 You know, sloppy Steve for Steve Bannon.

00:14:40.260 I forget what vicious attacks he had on Corey Lewandowski.

00:14:43.520 Just endless attacks on Jeff Sessions, his first attorney general.

00:14:47.540 He's really, really nasty when someone has a crossword about him.

00:14:54.660 Very solid ego.

00:14:55.980 And so he was pretty gentle on Elon.

00:15:00.860 And I think he, I mean, Elon was right.

00:15:03.360 And I knew if he ever went to Washington, no one can work in Washington and not realize you could cut 90 percent of it.

00:15:11.480 And most Americans wouldn't notice except their taxes would go down.

00:15:15.880 You can so easily, just so much make work, BS.

00:15:21.220 And coming, when I went for the Senate Judiciary Committee, I'd been coming from a law firm in New York where, I don't know if they do this here, but we have billable hours where you're actually so horrifying.

00:15:30.600 You actually have to account for your day, how much time you spent on each case.

00:15:35.260 So no chit-chatting around the water cooler.

00:15:38.380 Then you're staying an extra hour that day.

00:15:40.560 And the difference in, you know, the intense work and being aware of how much you're working at a law firm versus government work where 90 percent of the day is watching TV and chit-chatting around the water cooler.

00:15:55.440 So, you know, start with cutting all that.

00:15:57.660 So I figured someone as incredibly efficient and high IQ and productive as Elon and all the people who work for him would get to Washington and their heads would explode.

00:16:07.400 So I'm not surprised his head exploded.

00:16:09.200 And I agreed with him.

00:16:11.480 But, I mean, you can't blame Trump alone.

00:16:14.300 It's the members of Congress.

00:16:15.500 They have to get reelected and they have people in their districts who are still making their entire salary from impact aid.

00:16:22.980 And that's a worrying thing, though, Anne, because like I said before, this is existential.

00:16:27.940 If you don't deal with it, which no president has wanted to do for a very, very long time, what's going to happen is we're going to go bankrupt.

00:16:37.040 Yes. Yes. And I think in a way we're a little worse off than you are because there's so much cockiness in the U.S. about, well, we're the world's reserve currency.

00:16:49.720 OK, but still, you know, most of the money we're collecting in taxes is going to pay interest on the debt.

00:16:56.360 Fantastic. What a deal.

00:16:58.120 I mean, I think Doge is the model for how to do it.

00:17:04.580 And you need someone, I don't know, with a personality like Trump, maybe J.D. when he's president.

00:17:12.240 It needs to be a big national movement.

00:17:15.160 That's what Reagan did to cut taxes, which I was mad that Trump never did for the wall and immigration stuff.

00:17:21.500 Reagan got a Democratic Congress to to cut taxes.

00:17:25.900 That's only half of it.

00:17:26.880 Everybody likes that.

00:17:27.620 You got to cut the spending.

00:17:28.460 But he did it by giving a fireside address from the Oval Office and one in a landslide, speak to the people who voted for him.

00:17:36.480 They agree with him.

00:17:37.620 But it can't you can't just count on each senator or congressman to be brave and vote against people in his district.

00:17:45.060 It has to be a big national movement.

00:17:47.460 Everybody's got to cut back.

00:17:48.760 This is what's going to happen if we don't.

00:17:50.600 And I think if you had if you if you made it a national cause that you're cutting out, if you're cutting everything, you're cutting everything, because otherwise a cut is a reduction in the rate of growth.

00:18:06.840 That's what they call a cut in Washington.

00:18:09.740 And it's just never going to get done.

00:18:11.480 And it's so interesting to see, because it's quite this become quite apparent to me that he isn't going to do that.

00:18:18.720 But also, he's his tenure is looking to start to start to look a little bit more wobbly, particularly with the Epstein thing.

00:18:29.120 So let's talk about.

00:18:31.240 I don't know what that noise was, but someone's excited.

00:18:35.360 So what is going on with the Epstein thing?

00:18:38.960 Does it have long term implications for the Trump presidency?

00:18:44.340 And where is where are the MAGA base on that at the moment?

00:18:48.620 Most of the MAGA base, God, God bless them, even the cultists, they want.

00:18:53.180 And sorry to interrupt, Sir Lynch, who are the cultists?

00:18:55.460 What are you talking about?

00:18:56.440 The ones who didn't care that he didn't build the wall.

00:18:59.660 They just do.

00:18:59.980 Do you think there's a big portion of Trump's following that the team is a cult leader, basically?

00:19:05.160 Shockingly, I did not think this when I wrote in Trump, we trust.

00:19:08.260 I have a section on how nobody likes the guy for his personality.

00:19:11.940 Of course, they're voting for his policies.

00:19:14.020 It was the basket of policies I've been waiting my whole life for a Republican to run on.

00:19:19.940 I'm totally for the tariffs.

00:19:21.800 Bring manufacturing back to the U.S. 0.97

00:19:24.340 One way, both Republicans and Democrats have screwed over the working and the middle class. 1.00

00:19:30.040 No more stupid wars. 1.00

00:19:31.700 And build the wall, deport illegals. 1.00

00:19:34.040 And we couldn't get that.

00:19:35.440 We couldn't get any of that from any Republican.

00:19:38.380 So it was 100% the issues for me.

00:19:41.340 But, I mean, since then, I've noticed that, yeah, there's some people.

00:19:46.660 It's enough that he...

00:19:48.540 Okay, I'm sympathetic to this, but it's enough that he really, really annoys the left.

00:19:53.960 And I like that.

00:19:56.840 Don't get me wrong.

00:19:59.260 They've lost their minds.

00:20:02.240 But anyway, what was I saying about the Trump cultist?

00:20:04.660 Yeah, sorry, I interrupted you.

00:20:05.680 I'm just...

00:20:06.380 You've used that term twice now, and I'm just trying to understand who you're talking about, basically, when you...

00:20:11.660 Certainly, my friends and I, and I would think most Americans would know what that means.

00:20:16.240 It's not like something...

00:20:17.160 I'm just saying that is not peculiar to me.

00:20:19.540 There is...

00:20:20.380 And actually, the left depends on it.

00:20:22.960 That, oh, Trump could do anything.

00:20:24.780 He could do anything.

00:20:25.520 They'll support him doing anything.

00:20:27.220 Well, the first...

00:20:28.280 And that's heavily been true.

00:20:30.740 The first time...

00:20:32.040 Actually, two times recently, the MAGA base has at least for a while differed from the orange man.

00:20:40.980 One was the strike on Iran.

00:20:43.140 A lot of the MAGA base opposed it.

00:20:45.180 Now, the cultists very quickly came up with an excuse to support it and put a pin in that attack.

00:20:52.180 And the other one is the Epstein stuff.

00:20:54.320 And again, some of the cultists are coming up with an excuse.

00:20:58.380 The thing I'd say about the MAGA base opposing the Iraq or Iran attack, and I was one of them,

00:21:04.660 it actually ended up not being so bad.

00:21:07.460 And I think part of the reason I loved Trump's speech after he said,

00:21:12.660 it's over, we have peace with Iran now, we're done, we just wanted to destroy the nuclear facilities, 1.00

00:21:18.560 can't run the experiment twice.

00:21:19.980 But I think if he hadn't gotten the pushback from the MAGA base,

00:21:24.280 we might have troops and ships over there right now.

00:21:27.380 And it might not...

00:21:28.200 Yes.

00:21:28.720 Well, that's the way it's always gone.

00:21:30.520 Not under Trump.

00:21:31.640 He's never put troops anywhere, right?

00:21:33.580 When he destroyed ISIS, he just bombed them and left it there, right? 0.80

00:21:37.120 Yes.

00:21:37.980 So I think that's the difference.

00:21:39.900 But we do have troops all over the world.

00:21:42.260 But not because of Trump, right?

00:21:44.080 No, but he hasn't pulled them back.

00:21:45.600 He didn't end Afghanistan. 0.93

00:21:47.060 I mean, I hate to say it, sorry, Biden's the one who ended Afghanistan.

00:21:50.680 And on the Epstein thing, the excuse they're using is even crazier.

00:21:55.540 The ones who said, at first, MAGA base, and this is not all of them, but some of the sort of prominent ones who want Trump to know him.

00:22:04.400 Who are you talking about, Anne?

00:22:05.980 Not naming names.

00:22:07.580 Why not?

00:22:09.980 That's a good point.

00:22:11.140 Okay, Charlie Kirk, Steve Bannon.

00:22:13.140 Okay.

00:22:13.620 What have they done?

00:22:14.400 How do they come up with BS excuses after saying one thing and then Trump totally blows them off?

00:22:19.540 And, oh, well, it's okay.

00:22:20.520 Okay, so the Epstein excuse is Wall Street Journal had that absolutely repellent and completely believable page that Donald Trump wrote for Epstein's birthday book.

00:22:33.880 Yep.

00:22:34.640 And for those of you who are not familiar with it, so it's a drawing of a naked woman.

00:22:40.380 It has this, you know, just sort of sleazy, you know, happy birthday and may every day be filled with secrets.

00:22:46.100 And then he signs his name where the naked woman's pubic hair would be. 0.98

00:22:51.420 So one thing, I mean, this is not exactly out of character. 0.96

00:22:55.700 You guys didn't know he was an utter vulgarian.

00:23:01.460 You're just finding it out.

00:23:03.940 He used to hang around with Jeffrey Epstein, dumped him long before I think the pedophilia stuff started.

00:23:08.860 But he gave that, I mean, there was the Access Hollywood tape.

00:23:15.300 He said it.

00:23:15.980 You know he said it.

00:23:17.500 A quote to the New Yorker on Jeffrey Epstein.

00:23:20.220 And, look, let me just say, I still wrote and stood by the book in Trump We Trust.

00:23:26.020 I care about policy.

00:23:28.240 But just imagine, and I'm not being a prude, imagine your father's doing any of this, saying any of this.

00:23:35.480 Of course, it wasn't, he isn't admitting to sexual assault because he said, if they let you.

00:23:41.460 But the quote in the New Yorker on Epstein was, some say he loves beautiful women as much as I do, except a little on the younger side. 0.98

00:23:53.760 Okay, the guy's a total, the guy, Epstein, total pervert. 0.81

00:23:57.600 And you're giving a quote like that and joshing about on the younger side. 0.98

00:24:01.700 So, put that in a box, utter, complete vulgarian, not at all surprised by the sketch. 0.99

00:24:09.000 Trump, as usual. 1.00

00:24:11.520 It's so, oh my gosh, he's an idiot. 1.00

00:24:16.220 Okay, say you're accused of raping a woman in Cleveland. 1.00

00:24:20.520 What do you say? 0.69

00:24:22.160 It was consensual.

00:24:24.260 What does Trump say?

00:24:26.060 I've never been in Cleveland.

00:24:27.940 Well, okay, now all we need is evidence that you've been in Cleveland.

00:24:33.640 So, what is his excuse on the birthday book thing?

00:24:36.280 Which I think, I mean, he could have said, oh, I had an assistant write it.

00:24:40.720 Jelaine, a co-conspirator with Epstein.

00:24:44.240 She wrote it for us.

00:24:46.980 Nobody was ever supposed to see it.

00:24:49.300 She told me to do it this way.

00:24:50.780 That I would believe.

00:24:51.980 But no, he says, I never do drawings.

00:24:55.860 And then, the next day, they produce like a million drawings by him.

00:24:59.580 They've been sold at auction.

00:25:00.780 And by the way, they were pretty good.

00:25:02.060 He's actually very talented.

00:25:03.520 Really?

00:25:03.960 Yeah.

00:25:04.260 Yeah.

00:25:04.540 See, this is, if Trump is watching, this is the bit where he's back in love with that.

00:25:08.880 She said, I'm a good at drawing.

00:25:10.900 Exactly.

00:25:10.920 No, that might do it.

00:25:12.100 Yeah.

00:25:12.780 So, why do you think that there's been, we've had people on to talk about this a little bit.

00:25:18.020 Why do you think these documents are not being released?

00:25:21.260 Why do you think the investigation isn't fully transparent?

00:25:24.160 I think it's 100% Trump.

00:25:26.920 It's obviously not head of the FBI and his assistant.

00:25:30.400 It's not Cash Patel.

00:25:31.700 It's not Dan Bongino.

00:25:34.280 It's probably not the attorney general, whatever her name is, Bondi.

00:25:37.860 Pam Bondi.

00:25:38.340 Yeah.

00:25:38.980 But maybe she shouldn't have been bragging about it quite.

00:25:41.680 So, maybe they should have had that chit-chat before she went on TV and said, I got the files right on my desk.

00:25:47.780 I got the photos.

00:25:48.120 See, this is one of the problems for MAGA, isn't it, Anne?

00:25:50.140 Because they all trumpeted this as, like, their big reveal against the Democrats, and now they are the ones that are not releasing it.

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00:28:26.320 I wouldn't say they right-wingers because the MAGA base is, I think, still pretty ginned up about it.

00:28:34.380 Maybe not the ones with podcasts.

00:28:36.460 I'm ginned up about it.

00:28:39.440 Let me say, I don't think Trump had sex with underage girls. 0.99

00:28:44.400 I also don't think he had sex with that porn star. 0.97

00:28:46.580 And I don't think he assaulted that woman in Bergdorf Goodman. 0.88

00:28:49.200 And I think those are preposterous claims.

00:28:52.140 Not that I'm saying he's, you know, above board, total gentleman.

00:28:57.980 Not going that far.

00:28:59.720 I think his donors, I mean, it clearly was.

00:29:03.780 There was, I think I may write about, this is my column this week.

00:29:07.080 Oh, by the way, you can read my column, see my video on my sub stack.

00:29:10.980 Unsafe, anncoulter.substack.com.

00:29:14.700 That's what I meant to mention.

00:29:16.100 I'm really bad at promoting myself.

00:29:17.920 That's terrible.

00:29:18.420 You wouldn't just randomly slip in a link to a sub stack in the middle of a podcast with no reference for it whatsoever.

00:29:25.440 Well, the column will show up right in your inbox, and it's almost entirely free.

00:29:29.200 But I think I may write about, this is about the Epstein thing.

00:29:31.600 There was an article in the New York Times, or columnist, in the New York Times, I don't know, this weekend,

00:29:36.900 by their in-house conservative reminding me why I never read him.

00:29:44.100 But the headline was about conspiracy theories.

00:29:46.480 And I have a minor interest in conspiracy theories.

00:29:51.400 I usually hate, hate, hate them, because what liberals do, they're doing right in front of us.

00:29:58.040 They're hiding nothing. 0.84

00:29:59.740 There's no man behind the curtain.

00:30:02.120 But, of course, there are a lot of true things that are dismissed as conspiracy theories.

00:30:06.100 There are conspiracies.

00:30:08.780 Sometimes it's not a theory.

00:30:09.920 But anyway, his article is on conspiracy theories.

00:30:13.240 And he gets the Epstein thing.

00:30:15.540 And, oh, it's Ross Douthat.

00:30:18.240 I don't even know how to pronounce his name.

00:30:19.480 Big Papist. 0.99

00:30:20.620 And it is perhaps the dumbest column I've ever read. 0.99

00:30:23.760 So he does this thing, which a lot of pundits do in New York. 0.98

00:30:26.700 I don't know if they do it here.

00:30:27.400 But they're going to be, you know, the reasonable middle ground.

00:30:31.540 Both the right wing is wrong and the left wing is wrong.

00:30:34.200 But here, I'm going to come out right down.

00:30:35.980 Let me tell you the reasonable position.

00:30:38.040 And each case, his, quote, reasonable position is factually false, is absurd, is compared to the left wing position. 0.99

00:30:46.640 It's stupider than that. 0.98

00:30:48.100 So on Epstein, I'll just mention this one quickly. 0.99

00:30:52.340 The right wingers say that Jeffrey Epstein was running some sort of sex ring for the rich and powerful.

00:31:02.340 Well, that's a fact.

00:31:05.120 No, no, no.

00:31:05.740 We know that.

00:31:06.460 We have court documents.

00:31:08.080 We have witness statements.

00:31:10.460 We have the girls saying that Jeffrey made them have sex with his friends.

00:31:14.840 We have that guy, what's his name, the model, the head of the modeling agency in France who's been accused.

00:31:21.720 We have Leon Black in the United States.

00:31:24.100 We have the head of, well, how about Prince Andrew?

00:31:29.240 That's a fact.

00:31:30.960 So don't call that a right wing conspiracy theory.

00:31:34.560 And then, by the way, he ends up the column attacking the right and the left on conspiracy theories by telling us how he believes in UFOs.

00:31:40.980 So, I mean, what is the impact on the MAGA base?

00:31:47.720 Do you think that this is a mortal blow or do you think this is just something Trump is going to ride out?

00:31:53.300 Because if you take the approach of what Trump drained the swamp, this is the ultimate drain the swamp moment.

00:31:59.980 This is the great reveal.

00:32:01.360 This is Trump showing the corruption, deceit, and perversion behind the curtain. 0.90

00:32:08.100 Yes. 0.97

00:32:09.040 Yes.

00:32:09.480 I hope it remains a thorn in his side.

00:32:13.340 I mean, when you say the mortal blow, what precisely does that mean?

00:32:17.420 He's not going to be impeached over it.

00:32:19.320 Because the Democrats definitely don't want it out.

00:32:21.680 Yeah.

00:32:21.900 I mean, Trump may have his own reasons, which are his donors.

00:32:28.160 I think they don't want him to release it. 0.97

00:32:30.160 I don't think he's in the files having sex with a 14-year-old girl.

00:32:33.320 I think it's his donors who don't want it out.

00:32:35.540 They're rich and powerful people.

00:32:36.760 I think, but as long as it remains a thorn in his side, and in fact, I think this is part of the reason I need to keep writing about it. 0.97

00:32:47.380 Because since he has totally betrayed the MAGA base and worse than that, attacked them and called them, people who want the Epstein files out, called them idiots and saying, 0.97

00:32:59.780 I don't want your support. 1.00

00:33:01.840 This is his base.

00:33:03.640 I mean, I've never seen him make such a mistake with his base.

00:33:07.180 He really does think he's untouchable.

00:33:09.180 But isn't he, though, Anne?

00:33:10.220 Because look, look at the Iran thing, right? 0.90

00:33:12.080 There were a lot of people who, there were some people who had principled opposition.

00:33:15.540 Other people were just having a full-blown meltdown, calling for him to be impeached.

00:33:19.000 Tucker Carlson went apeshit, you know, all these Candace Owens and all these other people, right?

00:33:23.740 Stared them all down, proven ultimately completely correct on the decision he made, I would argue.

00:33:29.980 The World War III predictions didn't materialize.

00:33:35.220 The U.S. involvement didn't materialize.

00:33:37.260 I say it's because we put pressure on him not to let him materialize.

00:33:40.320 I think that's a very tenuous claim to make, personally.

00:33:42.860 But that's fine.

00:33:43.640 My point is something else, which is he saw off the critics and came out on top.

00:33:48.100 That's ultimately what happened.

00:33:49.460 Only because he moved on.

00:33:51.120 We stopped obsessing with Iran.

00:33:52.840 I mean, part of it is, at least from my perspective, it's not just that we're getting involved literally sending troops in.

00:34:01.360 And again, he didn't end the war in Afghanistan.

00:34:04.740 I'm sick of hearing about it.

00:34:06.120 I don't want to turn on my TV and, you know, with Iran and this leader and that leader and Shia and Sunni. 1.00

00:34:11.820 Can we get back to my country for ten minutes here?

00:34:15.180 What's going on on our border?

00:34:17.300 Can we care about my country?

00:34:19.420 No, we always have to be fixated on whether the Middle East and Iran and Iraq and Israel and the Palestinians and how about Ukraine and Russia?

00:34:29.940 Meanwhile, on our border, Mexicans are killing nearly 100,000 Americans a year with the fentanyl. 1.00

00:34:39.620 Oh, by the way, one thing I love about London, no pot. 0.73

00:34:43.240 You can't walk ten yards in New York City without reeking of marijuana. 0.85

00:34:49.080 It's the most disgusting thing imaginable. 0.98

00:34:51.280 So go, London.

00:34:53.400 You really haven't traveled widely in London.

00:34:56.140 I'll take you to Briggs, and it'll be right up your street.

00:34:59.940 Really?

00:35:00.460 Yeah, there's plenty of pot in London. 0.64

00:35:02.180 Well, they shouldn't do it.

00:35:03.180 We'll hook you up.

00:35:03.400 It's very bad for you.

00:35:04.680 Yeah.

00:35:05.540 What I'm asking, well, it's interesting you mentioned, I know a lot of Americans feel that way about, you know, putting America first, which is totally understandable.

00:35:14.560 Every country should put it.

00:35:15.320 And that was his motto.

00:35:16.240 But now that he has secured the border, I mean, one of the interesting things is, of course, he came in on the promise of ending the conflict in Ukraine.

00:35:27.860 In one day.

00:35:28.680 In one day.

00:35:29.920 I never thought that was particularly likely to happen.

00:35:32.680 And it hasn't happened.

00:35:36.020 Likewise with Israel and Gaza, that hasn't been settled yet.

00:35:40.020 Why do you think that is?

00:35:40.940 Well, you may not have noticed this. 0.91

00:35:45.120 Trump is an exaggerator. 0.76

00:35:47.000 Yeah.

00:35:47.780 Yeah.

00:35:48.260 I have.

00:35:49.040 I've got glimpses of that here every now and again.

00:35:52.360 You don't want to really take it to the bank.

00:35:55.040 Well, in the case of Russia, I mean, Putin just – I've noticed Ukraine is a much bigger issue over here than it is in America.

00:36:02.680 It is over and done in America. 0.66

00:36:05.260 Nobody cares.

00:36:06.260 They're sick of spending money.

00:36:07.600 It's just – it's going into this – a pit.

00:36:11.360 And people keep dying, dying, dying.

00:36:13.280 People would like it just to end.

00:36:15.420 I think Putin realizes – and by the way, he's not Hitler.

00:36:19.180 He's not going to march into Poland.

00:36:20.620 He wants – he definitely wants all of Ukraine.

00:36:23.020 It is historically part of Russia.

00:36:24.560 I am not defending him.

00:36:25.540 He invaded the country.

00:36:26.600 Shouldn't have done that.

00:36:27.420 But that's what he wants.

00:36:29.520 He's made it very clear.

00:36:31.720 Not all of Ukraine is historically part of Russia, but fine.

00:36:35.320 I'm from Russia, so.

00:36:43.460 Where did the word for Ukraine come from?

00:36:46.880 It means borderland.

00:36:48.460 There's a Russian word, and it was something like Ukraine or something.

00:36:55.080 I'm talking about –

00:36:55.860 Krayna, but that's a Ukrainian word.

00:36:57.420 It means borderland.

00:36:58.640 So Western Ukraine used to be part of Poland.

00:37:01.760 Eastern Ukraine was part of Russia and southern – most of southern Ukraine.

00:37:05.760 Okay.

00:37:06.340 I'm not believing you, but we'll –

00:37:08.260 You're not believing?

00:37:08.980 No.

00:37:09.440 Why not?

00:37:11.360 What do you mean you're not believing me?

00:37:13.000 I want to go look it up.

00:37:14.260 Oh, okay.

00:37:14.720 Cool.

00:37:15.440 Okay.

00:37:15.600 So, anyway, he wants it all.

00:37:20.240 He does.

00:37:20.960 And England and Spain, or France and Germany, aren't going to be funding Ukraine the way 0.62

00:37:29.880 the U.S. was.

00:37:30.780 The U.S. does not want to keep funding Ukraine, so I think Putin just sees his opportunity

00:37:34.280 and he's going to keep on going.

00:37:35.600 And Trump did not expect that.

00:37:38.940 He thought, let's end it.

00:37:40.340 A lot of Russians are being killed.

00:37:42.240 Now, I think he's just moved on and doesn't care.

00:37:44.280 So, that's it with that one.

00:37:47.420 And, wait, what were we on the MAGA?

00:37:49.280 Oh, Epstein.

00:37:50.040 So, as long as there's a thorn in his side, he does keep giving us a lot of good stuff

00:37:54.680 to try to distract the MAGA base.

00:37:57.260 I mean, stepped up quite a bit.

00:37:59.640 Just, I mean, I've barely been keeping up with the U.S. news, but I've been reading,

00:38:03.560 sort of skimming the New York Times every day.

00:38:05.260 And every day, it's another Christmas gift to the MAGA base.

00:38:09.320 Like, how do you mean?

00:38:09.960 What do you mean by a Christmas gift?

00:38:13.280 What was the one?

00:38:17.780 That was a really good one today.

00:38:22.500 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:38:23.440 Way less spending on global warming.

00:38:25.920 That has basically just been slashed from the government.

00:38:28.400 So, that's today.

00:38:30.740 Yesterday, okay, maybe I won't do it chronologically day by day.

00:38:33.740 The other one was, and I'm shocked that no other Republican president has done this, 0.96

00:38:39.080 the national parks and monuments have to take out all the anti-American crap. 0.97

00:38:44.120 And the New York Times, trying to scare its readers into, you know, this massive, horrible 0.90

00:38:49.720 censorship, and we're losing our history, they had an article of the stuff that's being

00:38:54.540 taken out.

00:38:55.240 So, this is supposed to make the average reader think, oh, my gosh, how can they take

00:38:59.480 that out?

00:39:00.180 And everyone just, it makes your head explode.

00:39:03.280 I can't believe they had this in a national park.

00:39:06.680 Anything about it.

00:39:07.540 There was some, like, horse.

00:39:11.660 Maybe it was the little horses in South Carolina or something.

00:39:14.680 But, you know, there's a description of little horses.

00:39:16.860 And, of course, climate change has made their habitat more difficult.

00:39:20.520 Every single hero in the United States, you need a full page on what the guy thought of

00:39:25.780 slavery.

00:39:27.260 John Muir, the father of our national parks.

00:39:30.300 You guys probably, I mean, he was a big naturalist, big hero.

00:39:33.360 Our national parks are beautiful.

00:39:34.720 You have much more beautiful buildings.

00:39:36.540 But, boy, we have beautiful national parks.

00:39:39.340 His is, said mean things about, was it even blacks?

00:39:45.120 It was Indians, our Indians, American Indians, and somebody else.

00:39:52.820 Maybe it was just Indians. 1.00

00:39:54.400 By the Liberty Bell, there was something about, now, at the time, there were a lot of enslaved

00:39:59.580 people.

00:40:00.540 Can you please just give the history without everything being a reminder of slavery?

00:40:06.400 So, okay, that's one thing.

00:40:07.760 Those are all going to be removed.

00:40:09.420 Can't believe a Republican president hasn't done this before now.

00:40:12.740 There was another one this week.

00:40:14.460 Anyway, it's things like that you probably don't care about.

00:40:17.760 No, no, no.

00:40:18.680 I find it interesting because the way he's maneuvering himself.

00:40:22.920 The thing that I've always found very interesting, I actually found it quite annoying, if I'm

00:40:28.600 being honest, is the way that Republicans or nobody on the right who preached about corruption

00:40:34.560 and the corruption in the Biden administration, which there was a lot of, and we don't need

00:40:40.060 to go into it because we all know what it was, yet when Trump releases his meme coin, which

00:40:45.840 to me is just outrageous, everybody's like, oh, that's fine.

00:40:49.720 I'm like, is it?

00:40:51.000 Can't disagree with you.

00:40:52.220 I think, I mean, it's hilarious.

00:40:53.580 I think this is the most corrupt presidency in U.S. history.

00:40:57.520 With the money they are raking in with the NFTs and the meme coin, I mean, it is so blatant.

00:41:04.700 It's right in front of our eyes.

00:41:06.120 And the funny thing about it, I don't care as long as we get a wall and mass deportations.

00:41:11.260 If I have not made that clear, I don't care about anything but saving the country.

00:41:17.380 We'll deal with, you know, future presidents being corrupt.

00:41:19.540 I mean, it's corrupt in the sense that he, I should probably modify what I just said.

00:41:26.240 It's corrupt in the sense that he, he's raking, he's using the presidency to rake in so much

00:41:33.680 money, which I believe is technically an ethics violation, but he isn't.

00:41:39.040 Technically.

00:41:40.360 Sounds like an ethics violation to me.

00:41:42.760 But it's, I think it's better than, for example, not releasing the Epstein files because in a

00:41:53.340 trade-off with his donors, okay, give me a hundred million and I won't release them.

00:41:57.200 I mean, that hasn't come to light, but I'm just saying that right now he is just, as far

00:42:03.200 as we know, just raking in the money to benefit himself and his family.

00:42:07.240 Um, he is pushing the MAGA policies and I mean, I, I, I, I thought this and I think I said

00:42:14.980 it publicly, um, I'm going to go on my sub stack with Mickey Kaus because, because he asked

00:42:21.040 me now, um, if you liked Joe Biden's policies, would you care about this under Biden stuff?

00:42:27.000 And we both agreed that I think most Americans wouldn't care if you like the policies.

00:42:32.360 Well, that was another one.

00:42:33.480 I'm sorry, that was, sorry to interrupt, that was just to benefit the Biden family.

00:42:38.280 Okay. 0.69

00:42:39.500 I'd see, my pushback to that is corruption is a cancer.

00:42:43.400 And if you let it spread unchecked and you do not challenge it, it permeates into every

00:42:49.260 facet of society and society eventually collapses, which is what I've seen in Venezuela.

00:42:56.540 Yeah, yeah, you're right.

00:42:57.340 Which is one of the most corrupt countries in the world.

00:42:59.340 I think the most corrupt actually.

00:43:00.920 Yeah.

00:43:01.200 Yeah.

00:43:01.440 Venezuela.

00:43:02.540 Thank you, mate.

00:43:03.480 Thank you, motor capital of the world as well.

00:43:05.820 Perfect.

00:43:06.760 But, so when I see, I find what you're saying, Anne, as a Republican and as a conservative,

00:43:12.800 quite shocking, if I'm being honest, because if we don't challenge corruption at the helm

00:43:19.020 and the highest possible echelon, you're basically giving it a free pass, aren't you?

00:43:25.060 No, I agree with that in principle and you're totally nailing me on it and I'm probably blushing

00:43:31.200 now, but our country is so much further gone than yours is.

00:43:40.180 Um, I thought when I wrote Adios America in 2015 about, about immigration, not just illegal

00:43:47.500 immigration, all immigration. 0.87

00:43:48.880 Since 1970, we have been hauling in the third world hand over fist. 0.99

00:43:53.600 I mean, 80, 90, 90% of our legal immigrants are from the third world. 0.80

00:44:00.100 Yeah.

00:44:00.280 Try to immigrate from Western Europe. 0.99

00:44:01.920 It was a specific design by the Democrats to change the country more in their favor,

00:44:06.500 um, and happened to wreck the country at the same time.

00:44:10.520 We're down to, I mean, this is something else that we can look up and get the actual number

00:44:15.780 on.

00:44:16.940 We're down to, um, I mean, from what, 1620 up until 1970, the country was 80 to 90% white,

00:44:26.120 10 to 20% black.

00:44:28.060 That, those are foundational Americans.

00:44:31.360 And the 1970 population overwhelmingly traced its ancestry back to colonial times.

00:44:36.920 We're now down to, um, well, it's about 13% black.

00:44:41.900 So that hasn't changed that much.

00:44:43.220 We're now down to, I think, around 57% white Americans.

00:44:48.100 Um, and by the way, they include a lot of Hispanics in white and people always talk about,

00:44:54.840 and I'm sorry, but the president of Singapore was right.

00:44:57.980 People do vote their ethnicity.

00:45:00.120 The Democrats were right. 0.98

00:45:01.440 Bringing in third world immigrants got them a lot of votes.

00:45:05.360 Um, you know, maybe we can change in the future.

00:45:08.760 Maybe, maybe it takes about a hundred years.

00:45:10.720 Wait, didn't Hispanics break for Trump this election?

00:45:13.340 Nope.

00:45:13.720 No?

00:45:14.180 Big fat lie.

00:45:15.300 They went a little bit more for the Republican.

00:45:17.960 It's like the rate of growth in the government.

00:45:20.140 Yeah.

00:45:20.460 No, it was a huge cut.

00:45:22.280 The rate of growth.

00:45:23.300 No, no.

00:45:23.820 What was it?

00:45:24.200 What was the breakdown?

00:45:24.920 I don't remember off the top of my head.

00:45:26.240 Um, it was more than usual.

00:45:27.840 And there are a few areas where it seemed to matter.

00:45:30.060 I forget what it was, but it was absolutely not a majority.

00:45:33.580 It was a big move.

00:45:34.380 I think Hispanic men might have slightly made it.

00:45:37.240 But meanwhile, white males between the ages of 18 and 25, like 90% Trump voters.

00:45:46.860 No, that's a good demographic for us.

00:45:49.600 Um, so people always talk about, and maybe it's probably the same here, but how politics

00:45:53.720 will swing.

00:45:54.480 There's a pendulum back and forth and, you know, it'll seem like Republicans totally on

00:45:58.320 the upswing.

00:45:59.040 Well, you got, you know, FDR, liberal, liberal, liberal.

00:46:02.900 Then we got Reagan.

00:46:03.940 It seems like they're going to be around forever.

00:46:05.760 And then Obama.

00:46:06.480 Oh my gosh, Republican Party is finished.

00:46:08.320 And it seems to swing back and forth.

00:46:11.040 But I mean, in the 1950s, which I wrote about the, with the, with the communist stuff and

00:46:16.520 Alger Hiss and, and Joe McCarthy, um, if I had lived in those times, I would have thought

00:46:22.220 the country's over.

00:46:23.060 Our, our, our government is streaming with spies for Stalin.

00:46:28.380 That would have looked pretty bad to me.

00:46:30.060 And then, you know, in the Alger Hiss, not Alger Hiss, um, Whitaker Chambers said, I've,

00:46:35.900 I'm moving from the communist party, um, to the side of, of truth and God.

00:46:41.560 And I'm moving from the winning side to the losing side.

00:46:44.480 It's kind of a pessimistic fellow.

00:46:46.280 Um, but no, in the end, the losing side won.

00:46:50.220 So, so you would think you'd have, you know, more hope that you do have the pendulum swing

00:46:55.260 and it's crazy as it gets.

00:46:56.600 But that was with a different population.

00:47:00.680 Reagan wouldn't win one, two landslides now with the new demographics. 0.90

00:47:05.520 Look at California, um, for your future America.

00:47:09.700 Um, California gave us our, until Trump, our two greatest Republican presidents, Richard

00:47:16.540 Nixon and Donald Trump.

00:47:18.420 You can't get elected dog catcher in that state anymore without being a Democrat and far left

00:47:23.660 progressive Democrat.

00:47:24.820 I met a, I met a girl, um, I hope she doesn't listen to this because she really annoyed me. 1.00

00:47:31.140 Um, here in, in, in London, um, I sat next to her at a, at a dinner.

00:47:37.400 Um, and she's, you know, big social conservative. 0.57

00:47:41.100 I'm big social conservative.

00:47:42.720 I'm, I'm pro-life.

00:47:44.260 I'm in the whole nine yards.

00:47:45.360 Um, but she was saying that, um, no, she's, she's not worried about immigration because

00:47:53.480 the third worlders, you know, the Mexicans and the Muslim, they're voting against trans

00:47:59.180 and they're against abortion.

00:48:01.040 And I said, okay, go to California and get your pro-life bill through.

00:48:07.360 And then I'll say it can be done.

00:48:09.180 Yeah.

00:48:09.520 They're Catholics that are technically anti-abortion, but they don't vote on it.

00:48:14.820 They vote for, for government benefits.

00:48:16.920 So is that the real reason why you are, it's because the, the, the statement that people

00:48:24.200 always say with America is that it's a nation of immigrants. 1.00

00:48:27.480 That's complete bullshit. 1.00

00:48:29.660 It is used to destroy our country. 1.00

00:48:31.920 It is not a nation of immigrants.

00:48:33.580 It was invented by liberals to help destroy our country.

00:48:36.220 It is a nation of British settlers.

00:48:38.500 Thank you very much.

00:48:39.580 And it remained a country of, well, Dutch. 0.92

00:48:42.140 They didn't settle, they were more traitors, whereas thank God for England's primogenitor 0.99

00:48:49.140 law, where the firstborn son gets everything, which I guess you have to do on a small little

00:48:53.500 island or estates get broken up.

00:48:55.360 But, but because of that, you have all these really smart second and third born sons and

00:48:59.600 they're just SOL.

00:49:00.920 You have the smart girls and they don't get anything either.

00:49:06.700 So we got a lot of the really, really smart, smart British people who came over and found

00:49:12.120 what, what King George called that Presbyterian war.

00:49:17.300 It was, the country was overwhelmingly British, Presbyterian. 0.96

00:49:25.720 You had the Dutch in New York, but like I say, they were traitors. 1.00

00:49:29.760 And it's an example of immigration overwhelming. 0.67

00:49:33.000 The Dutch and so many British came in that the Dutch sort of lost their influence, but a

00:49:37.180 lot of stuff is named after them.

00:49:38.440 Very important.

00:49:38.940 Then I think, you know, a fair number of Germans came over.

00:49:43.860 But that-

00:49:44.120 Aren't there more Germans though?

00:49:45.540 This is what I have been-

00:49:47.340 Over time, yeah.

00:49:48.580 And they used to be the largest ethnic group, though I think that's a little bit fake because

00:49:55.120 people who are descended from the British don't call themselves, I'm an English immigrant.

00:50:00.000 I mean, like me, I just call myself an American.

00:50:02.600 Right.

00:50:02.900 Well, and isn't the point that people are trying to make, by the way, people say this

00:50:06.500 about Britain, Britain's a nation of immigrants, and that actually is-

00:50:08.940 Often raging. 0.96

00:50:09.920 That is silly.

00:50:11.220 And I've done articles on my Substack and videos about it.

00:50:14.020 But with America, don't, isn't what people mean is that everyone who currently lives in

00:50:18.260 America came from somewhere else. 0.98

00:50:20.000 So it's less, perhaps, abnormal or surprising that more people are coming from somewhere

00:50:26.340 else to America.

00:50:27.840 I've traveled in America, I've probably been to at least half of the states.

00:50:31.120 My sense was always that Americans are much more pro-immigration than British people are.

00:50:36.520 They're very against-

00:50:37.300 Not anymore!

00:50:37.860 They're very against illegal immigration, as I think they're right to be. 1.00

00:50:42.460 But I don't get the sense that they're not pro-immigration.

00:50:46.320 Do you see what I mean?

00:50:47.200 Yes, yes, yes.

00:50:49.020 Point one, the idea that, and absolutely, you travel, and it's, what was it not?

00:50:56.480 Majority-wide is barely hanging on by its fingernail.

00:50:58.780 So yes, it's happened.

00:50:59.820 But when you say nation of immigrants, it sounds like, you know, this is like a founding principle.

00:51:04.020 No, this is how Teddy Kennedy and the Democrats changed the country beginning in 1970.

00:51:10.100 So, I mean, you can take a really expensive bottle of wine and pour vinegar in it, and then 0.97

00:51:17.600 say, this wine sucks.

00:51:19.300 It's a bottle of vinegar. 0.99

00:51:21.860 Well, no, it wasn't.

00:51:23.220 It was a bottle of wine.

00:51:25.060 You poured vinegar in it.

00:51:26.860 And that doesn't make it a bottle of vinegar.

00:51:28.880 And you are absolutely right, much to my absolute blinding fury, that, yes, they distinguish

00:51:39.280 between legal immigrants, as Trump says.

00:51:43.640 We love legal immigrants, just not illegal immigrants.

00:51:47.940 And, I mean, that was a big part of my book, Adios America.

00:51:50.600 It wasn't about illegal immigrants.

00:51:51.960 It's about immigrants.

00:51:53.680 What they mean when they say this, I know this is what they mean.

00:51:57.180 And pre-1970 immigrants and post-1970 immigrants, because they're thinking of, I mean, the immigrants

00:52:02.760 that came end of the 18th century, end of the 19th century, beginning of the 20th century.

00:52:13.560 No, they were fantastic.

00:52:14.840 Those were all still Western Europeans. 0.99

00:52:16.580 So, a lot of them, that's only a few generations back.

00:52:19.480 So, a lot of them are thinking of, you know, their grandparents who came from Ireland or Germany

00:52:25.460 or Italy.

00:52:27.160 That's who they're thinking of when they say legal immigrants.

00:52:31.740 They don't realize that the only difference in, I mean, Biden made a joke of it.

00:52:39.460 By saying, okay, illegal immigrants, massing at our border, peasants with no skills, inability 1.00

00:52:47.640 to speak English, who are instantly going to go on welfare, mug us, kill us, drive drunk, 1.00

00:52:53.500 rape little girls. 1.00

00:52:55.100 No, you can come in legally. 1.00

00:52:56.600 Biden just did that.

00:52:57.460 So, they're legal immigrants.

00:53:01.040 It's the same people.

00:53:02.200 It's about 85% third world. 0.99

00:53:04.280 And, yes, we can take people from anywhere and assimilate them.

00:53:11.360 But, for one thing, assimilation is a bad word now.

00:53:14.140 They act like, you know, it's hate speech to try to assimilate people.

00:53:17.180 They live in their little, I mean, they're basically creating their own ghettos within 0.99

00:53:22.560 the United States up in Dearborn, Michigan.

00:53:25.300 They have signs in Arabic.

00:53:28.000 And, you know, I like a lot of them.

00:53:30.200 My senator was from Michigan.

00:53:31.740 But that's crazy.

00:53:33.140 In Minnesota, all the Somalians, they absolutely only vote for a Somalian.

00:53:39.980 The U.S. representative from that area, Ilhan Omar, she gives speeches.

00:53:45.860 You see this huge mass of Somalians, and she's saying, I'm here to represent the Somalian

00:53:51.500 people.

00:53:53.400 You're supposed to be representing America now. 0.78

00:53:56.440 And that's a big problem with bringing in.

00:53:58.880 You can't bring them in, in a tidal wave like that.

00:54:04.160 You have to bring them in bit by bit.

00:54:06.320 Get them accustomed to American ways, which is the way of the wasp. 1.00

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00:57:26.260 Sure. But I guess the reason I'm asking, I'm someone, I'm a first generation man to this country,

00:57:33.360 and I've always been hugely in favor of really strong assimilation policies, right?

00:57:39.780 But didn't you have this controversial moment with Vivek, who I think you'd agree is smart

00:57:44.780 and has assimilated, where you said you wouldn't vote for him because he's Indian?

00:57:50.260 Yeah, for president. I didn't say I wouldn't vote for him.

00:57:53.060 I said he could be, you know, senator. He's running for Senate now.

00:57:56.880 Why, why can't, he's, he was born in America, right?

00:58:00.000 Um, yes.

00:58:01.100 Why wouldn't you vote for him for president?

00:58:02.720 Okay, look up all the presidents of, of India.

00:58:07.420 Have they ever had a non-Indian president?

00:58:09.940 Why, no, they haven't.

00:58:10.880 Has Israel ever had a non-Israeli president?

00:58:13.400 Why is my country the only country that is supposed to have,

00:58:17.340 oh no, anybody can run on our country?

00:58:19.640 That had an Indian prime minister.

00:58:21.920 Yeah, I don't think it went that well.

00:58:23.580 And that was fairly recent.

00:58:24.900 It was fairly recent, and it didn't go well, but it wasn't because he was Indian.

00:58:28.280 Okay, well. 0.99

00:58:28.720 It's because his party's useless. 0.99

00:58:29.900 I wouldn't have voted for him because he's Indian, I think. 1.00

00:58:32.860 And by the way, we have a natural-born citizen clause for that.

00:58:36.240 I mean, there is, as I explained to Vivek in his podcast,

00:58:41.540 that was a real, it really started off with a bang on that one.

00:58:44.020 It was a rash decision at the last minute.

00:58:46.440 All my friends oppose, and I think a lot of people oppose Vivek because they think of him as a scam artist and a con man.

00:58:53.520 And I was thinking, well, I can't say that to him.

00:58:56.140 Eh, I wouldn't vote for him because he's Indian. 1.00

00:58:57.900 Let's throw that one out.

00:58:59.120 But I explained this to him.

00:59:00.320 At the time, there's a reason we have the natural-born citizen clause for president. 0.85

00:59:06.340 There is an idea, and I think people feel it even more now, because of the mass of immigrants from very, very different cultures.

00:59:16.980 America, I mean, like Britain, like most countries, I guess, it has a very distinctive culture.

00:59:22.920 We are the freest country in the world.

00:59:25.260 Free speech is in our bones.

00:59:27.720 The right to bear arms is in our bones.

00:59:30.600 And when polls are taken, no matter how nice they are, immigrants overwhelmingly do not support free speech and gun rights. 1.00

00:59:41.000 I mean, those are just two examples.

00:59:41.900 But doesn't Vivek support free speech and gun rights?

00:59:44.580 The point is still the same, and that is there is the idea that over generations it's in your bones, this is in your blood, you would die for this country.

00:59:56.260 It's just second nature to believe in the right to bear arms.

00:59:59.960 And, yeah, immigrants can pick this up. 1.00

01:00:02.100 Look, I told him I'd go for his kids if they married an American. 1.00

01:00:07.240 But he is an American, isn't he?

01:00:09.680 Yeah, he is, but he's an Indian-American.

01:00:12.320 He is a second-generation immigrant.

01:00:14.960 Okay, but the rule about the natural—

01:00:17.620 No, I'm using that as an analogy.

01:00:20.200 Otherwise, I wouldn't have had to say that.

01:00:21.780 I could have just said, you're not natural-born.

01:00:23.260 Ted Cruz isn't natural-born.

01:00:24.600 I wouldn't have to explain.

01:00:25.640 This is an analogy that it matters how deep your connection is to a very distinctive culture.

01:00:33.200 But you said that's because there are certain things that are embedded in the culture, like being in favor of the First Amendment, being in favor of the Second Amendment.

01:00:40.720 But Vivek is in favor of all those things, and you still wouldn't quote him.

01:00:43.080 Well, he says that.

01:00:44.180 I want it in their bones.

01:00:45.500 I want the wives to believe it. 0.99

01:00:47.420 I want it generation after generation after generation.

01:00:50.700 I don't want it to have to be something they need to study and figure out this is what they're supposed to say about it.

01:00:56.000 But aren't there loads of white Americans who don't believe in either of those amendments?

01:01:00.080 Sure.

01:01:01.220 But you would—

01:01:01.980 A lot.

01:01:02.380 No, that's not true.

01:01:03.380 No.

01:01:03.860 Aren't there a lot?

01:01:05.140 No.

01:01:05.560 The answer is no, no, no.

01:01:08.320 The people who support—

01:01:09.120 There's a lot of white Californians who don't believe in either of those amendments.

01:01:12.560 Yeah, and a majority do.

01:01:13.680 And a majority of no other ethnic group does. 0.99

01:01:16.420 And a majority of no other ethnic group does. 0.99

01:01:19.280 But surely, wouldn't the position be, Anne, is to take everybody on their own individual merits?

01:01:25.660 Isn't that just the way it should—

01:01:27.340 Does everybody get to be president?

01:01:29.960 If you were born in the country and you're an American citizen, then you should have the chance, shouldn't you?

01:01:35.420 Isn't that the American dream?

01:01:37.000 Tell Netanyahu.

01:01:38.340 Tell the Israelis. 0.99

01:01:39.500 As soon as they put in a president who's not an Israeli, I will say you guys are absolutely right. 1.00

01:01:44.600 Judge people on their own.

01:01:45.560 But he is an American.

01:01:47.240 He is an American.

01:01:48.480 It's not like he's just come over and then assumed the mantles—

01:01:52.860 There are Muslim Israelis.

01:01:57.180 Right, and they serve in the Supreme Court and they can't be elected president.

01:02:02.220 They won't be elected president.

01:02:03.700 Well, they can be.

01:02:05.360 Well, okay, but I'm not saying there should be a constitutional amendment.

01:02:08.760 I say I won't vote for that person. 0.96

01:02:10.800 And you know damn well Israelis are not voting for a Muslim president. 0.63

01:02:15.660 Because they don't want to, just as Anne doesn't want to. 0.69

01:02:20.740 Which is—look, I mean, that is fair, Anne.

01:02:23.740 If you don't want to, you don't want to.

01:02:25.400 I think the question that I want to ask, therefore, is, is MAGA just a one-term thing?

01:02:34.380 Is this just going to be a one-term, flash in the pan, built around the cult of Trump?

01:02:41.340 Or is this going to be something longer-lasting?

01:02:44.620 Not a chance that it will be one-term.

01:02:48.120 When I describe the MAGA cult, I don't know what percentage of Trump voters just like that he—the way he talks.

01:02:57.020 Like I say, his personality as opposed to his policies.

01:03:00.200 But a lot of people care about the policies.

01:03:02.400 And my proof of that is 2016 was at least the third time Donald Trump ran for president.

01:03:10.380 This is the first time he talked about immigration and swept the primaries.

01:03:19.200 And by the way, if you look—I mean, I described this in Trump We Trust.

01:03:23.140 You look at that opening speech coming down the escalator.

01:03:25.900 He talked about a lot of stuff. 0.91

01:03:27.880 The Mexican rapist thing was like 8% of the opening speech. 0.96

01:03:33.140 It could have been about Obamacare. 0.98

01:03:34.680 It could have been about guns.

01:03:36.240 It could have been about—

01:03:36.880 I mean, those words do tend to stand out.

01:03:39.420 I think a lot of them.

01:03:41.500 I think you can find a lot of them that stand out.

01:03:44.380 When he—I mean, attacking Jeb Bush, saying, your father lied us into war.

01:03:49.760 The reason—the reason—I mean, he was lucky.

01:03:53.880 The entire media, the entire Republican Party, the entire Democratic Party, I mean, of the elites,

01:03:59.560 opposed him on that.

01:04:00.600 But the people were for him on that.

01:04:04.260 So the more the media attacked him, the more they were doing his PR for him

01:04:08.660 by advertising his single most popular policy. 0.99

01:04:13.320 And even though it didn't take bravery, it took, you know, not being a moron 0.98

01:04:17.120 to start—pick up the popular policy. 0.99

01:04:20.000 It made him look brave.

01:04:23.100 So, no, immigration—and when he got elected this time, New York Times,

01:04:28.040 ran a poll—and there were a million polls showing the same thing, but I'm saying this

01:04:31.960 is a statement against interest because the New York Times is very liberal.

01:04:35.200 They ran a big poll.

01:04:36.960 Most Americans, a majority, didn't like his personality, didn't like him personally,

01:04:44.100 but they overwhelmingly supported him on immigration, expressly mass deportations.

01:04:50.660 It's a popular issue.

01:04:52.040 Even the Republicans, like Rubio, who pushed an amnesty and was, oh, the most beloved Republican

01:04:59.200 over at Fox News, where they love amnesty.

01:05:02.920 Every Republican, when Trump ran in 2016, every Republican supported amnesty.

01:05:09.800 At the very end, Cruz, the closest to him, I'd say, ideologically flipped.

01:05:15.980 Now all of them, amazingly, Rubio, whom I hated, hated, hated for being this beloved amnesty pusher,

01:05:24.480 man, he sounds like adios America now.

01:05:30.520 He could be quoting straight from my book.

01:05:34.120 So Republicans have flipped.

01:05:35.580 They've figured it out.

01:05:37.040 You know what I bet it will be like?

01:05:38.580 I hope this doesn't end up being a problem.

01:05:41.260 So Reagan runs on tax cuts.

01:05:44.480 Tax is the highest tax rate back then.

01:05:46.400 This may be nothing to you guys.

01:05:47.760 But it was like 78 percent.

01:05:49.420 That's quite a lot to us.

01:05:53.260 I mean, that's for each dollar above a certain amount, but still.

01:05:56.300 But that's a huge amount.

01:05:57.600 78 percent.

01:05:58.320 So he runs on cutting taxes.

01:06:00.320 And, you know, unlike Trump's first term, he kept his promises, slashes taxes. 1.00

01:06:05.500 Now, since then, my idiot Republican Party keeps running on cutting taxes. 0.99

01:06:10.360 But the only difference in a Republican president and a Democrat president on taxes. 1.00

01:06:14.820 And look, I'm for it.

01:06:15.940 I'm for tax cuts.

01:06:16.920 It's always good.

01:06:17.460 But it's like 34 percent versus 39 percent.

01:06:21.240 It's not just to 50 percent, 60 percent, 78 percent.

01:06:26.860 So Reagan won the argument on that.

01:06:31.160 I think, if anything, we would see the Democrats coming around on immigration, as some of the

01:06:37.540 liberal parties in Europe have done in order to win.

01:06:41.280 Really?

01:06:41.740 So you think, like, for instance, Gavin Newsom would go out and talk about limiting immigration?

01:06:46.460 I mean, he's got no integrity and he would do whatever it takes to win.

01:06:49.000 So actually, you made my argument for me.

01:06:51.240 Yeah, fair.

01:06:51.820 Yeah.

01:06:52.840 But I just see the Dems as being so ideologically compromised.

01:06:58.040 Like, they know what they need to do.

01:07:01.680 Do they?

01:07:02.060 Do they?

01:07:05.000 Do they?

01:07:07.160 Do they?

01:07:08.680 I see the Dems as being like Jehovah's Witnesses.

01:07:11.380 They know that they need to take the blood of transfusion in order to save themselves, but

01:07:15.500 they can't do it for Bridget.

01:07:16.800 Yeah, but they've got principles.

01:07:18.180 They've got, you know, they've got a greater purpose in life, right?

01:07:22.680 And their purpose is, you know, to save the poor illegal immigrants and the trans kids 1.00

01:07:27.460 and whatever, right?

01:07:28.480 Yeah.

01:07:28.800 They can't go back on that.

01:07:30.940 Just like the Jehovah's Witnesses. 1.00

01:07:32.460 Yeah.

01:07:32.840 I think they can.

01:07:34.300 I don't know that they will.

01:07:35.720 It's hard to imagine right now, I admit it.

01:07:38.400 But there are two reasons I think they can.

01:07:40.540 One, until they noticed that the post-1970 immigrants were voting for them, the lot of 1.00

01:07:47.440 Democrats were as tough as I am on immigration.

01:07:51.580 Harry Reid, the Senate majority leader for a while, Democrat from Nevada, he gave a blistering

01:07:57.920 speech on anchor babies.

01:08:00.000 Dianne Feinstein and Barbara Boxer, both from California, absolutely hardcore on immigration

01:08:05.960 because it was hitting California first.

01:08:08.180 Bernie Sanders, Barack Obama.

01:08:09.280 I have a whole chapter in my book.

01:08:10.540 Bernie Sanders.

01:08:10.840 Basically listing left-wing American politicians talking about immigration.

01:08:15.520 Yes.

01:08:15.980 And they were to the right of Donald Trump, all of them.

01:08:17.920 Yes.

01:08:18.760 Yes.

01:08:19.180 Bernie Sanders.

01:08:20.220 Well, to the right of 2016 Trump.

01:08:22.100 Right.

01:08:23.380 Right.

01:08:23.920 And Bernie Sanders, when he ran in 2016.

01:08:26.100 Totally.

01:08:26.460 So he drives down American workers' wages.

01:08:28.340 Which it does.

01:08:28.740 Which it does.

01:08:29.340 And then he flipped.

01:08:30.420 Yeah.

01:08:30.760 Because he went back to the mothership.

01:08:32.460 And oh, no, they're voting for us.

01:08:34.600 But, okay, so that's one point.

01:08:36.420 They have believed this.

01:08:37.800 But the difference is now the people are different.

01:08:40.080 Ilhan Omar and AOC are never going to come out against immigration.

01:08:44.220 True.

01:08:45.060 So the immigrants won't. 1.00

01:08:46.640 But the other Democrats, the reason they might is to take Ilhan Omar as an example.

01:08:53.920 So the mayor of Minneapolis, total leftist freak boy, he was the one, you may have seen this,

01:09:03.800 weeping like a baby in front of George Floyd's gold casket.

01:09:07.920 Yeah, I remember.

01:09:08.800 Yeah. 1.00

01:09:08.900 Just an absolute soy boy pussy on this. 1.00

01:09:13.920 Well, guess what? 1.00

01:09:14.980 They just had the Democratic primary.

01:09:16.640 And he lost to a Somali. 0.99

01:09:20.700 AOC took the place.

01:09:22.840 And I wrote about this in, maybe I was just arguing with my producers.

01:09:28.600 Anyway, I read my own books on audiobook.

01:09:30.580 And I'm sitting in the studio arguing with the producers, the producer and his daughter, I guess, during our lunch break.

01:09:39.500 I think it came up in one of my books that this is the end of the white Democrats. 0.99

01:09:44.780 You guys are so screwed. 1.00

01:09:45.800 I think it's over. 0.99

01:09:47.880 And there was this, I think his name was Thomas Crowley, long time.

01:09:51.400 Irish have dominated the Democratic Party.

01:09:54.060 Congressman and AOC runs.

01:09:57.200 And it was a wipeout.

01:09:58.880 So there, and he isn't the only one.

01:10:03.080 Democrats are losing their positions.

01:10:05.860 They made a slight miscalculation.

01:10:08.440 We'll bring in all these third worlders and they'll vote for us. 1.00

01:10:12.120 It never occurred to them that the third worlders might want our run for office and they block vote for their ethnicity. 1.00

01:10:20.460 So, ha, ha, ha, Democrats.

01:10:23.200 The one thing that's interesting with the Democrats is looking at what's happened in New York with Mandani.

01:10:29.920 Is that his name?

01:10:30.980 It's very hard to pronounce because in English there's no word that has an M followed by a D.

01:10:38.560 It's hard for your mouth to say it anyway, but it's Mamdani.

01:10:42.120 OK, so Mamdani, because that looks to me and we're seeing the same type of rhetoric being used over here, which is this very hardcore, very leftist, old school leftist, I would say, which isn't about identity politics.

01:10:58.620 It's going right down to the argument of economics.

01:11:01.700 It's talking about billionaires.

01:11:03.700 It's talking about us and them.

01:11:05.580 It's talking about inequality.

01:11:07.420 Would it not be smart for the Democrats to actually attack using that type of policy and that type of rhetoric?

01:11:15.900 Yes, but only in places like New York.

01:11:18.680 It will not work out in America.

01:11:22.220 The working class.

01:11:23.240 This is definitely done with the Democrats.

01:11:27.080 I think it works in New York.

01:11:28.880 And that's a very smart point because the people actually voting for Mamdani aren't the poor.

01:11:36.680 It's it's the rich elites. 0.98

01:11:40.220 They're totally down with the Communist Manifesto.

01:11:44.360 So you say it's only going to be the rich elites who are going to be who are susceptible to voting for that particular type of narrative. 1.00

01:11:52.620 Well, blacks in New York, for example, overwhelmingly voted for Cuomo and he is a complete horse's ass. 0.99

01:11:58.740 So, you know, they had to overcome a lot to vote for him. 1.00

01:12:01.880 That's really interesting.

01:12:03.520 So you don't see that as being in because in the UK, that narrative, as we see with the cost of living crisis, as we see, you know, the.

01:12:13.800 Everything's a crisis in Britain.

01:12:15.500 Whenever there's any kind of problem, it's a crisis.

01:12:18.580 Exactly.

01:12:19.420 Cost of living crisis, housing crisis, energy crisis, climate crisis, welfare crisis, border crisis, everything's a crisis.

01:12:26.460 So essentially, maybe and maybe that taps more into the kind of the British mind, but it seems more and more that over here that kind of talking, those talking points and that rhetoric is becoming normalized.

01:12:39.220 But you don't see that as being an issue in the United States.

01:12:45.100 No, that's a really smart point.

01:12:46.600 And I think it is the difference, a difference between us and not only England, but all these European countries where the far left, the communist left, they actually did have the working class voting for them.

01:13:03.720 And I'm pretty sure that's true of labor over here.

01:13:06.700 Oh, that's never been true in the U.S.

01:13:08.560 Because Reagan, it was a hard hat revolution during when Nixon was president and you had all the, you know, anti-war protesters and anti-Nixon protesters, even though he's the one who ended the war.

01:13:23.120 It was the hard hats who came out into New York City and beat up the hippies. 0.89

01:13:27.100 And one Lindsey, Mayor Lindsey, very left-wing mayor of New York, damn, I forget who it was, some lefty died and he put the flag at half mast and the hard hat guys climbed up the flagpole and raised it to the top of the mast. 0.94

01:13:50.760 They have not been putting up with this nonsense for a long time. 0.90

01:13:54.240 And in fact, one of my now conservative friends was a lefty in the 60s with some cult-like groups.

01:14:05.920 And their objective was to get the working class to, you know, support the left wing because it had not happened before in the U.S.

01:14:14.900 And he says, you know, I went in to change the working class and they changed me. 1.00

01:14:18.740 And he became a huge, you know, Reaganite right winger.

01:14:22.640 But our working class is not left-wing.

01:14:27.100 Are you hopeful for the future of America?

01:14:29.320 Because when we were talking on Saturday, you showed more optimism for the U.K., which I found baffling, if I'm being honest.

01:14:37.820 That's tourist eyes, mate.

01:14:39.220 That's what that is.

01:14:40.240 That's tourist eyes.

01:14:41.560 Sorry.

01:14:42.860 That's tourist eyes.

01:14:45.000 No, I am more optimistic for you guys.

01:14:48.280 I mean, I wish you could get Farage in a little sooner.

01:14:50.580 This four-year thing is really annoying.

01:14:53.840 When I wrote Adios America, I wrote it in 2015.

01:14:59.360 And back then, I thought, this country is so over.

01:15:04.040 But maybe we have a 10% chance of saving it.

01:15:07.140 And it's my country.

01:15:08.420 I love it.

01:15:09.000 It's worth writing this book.

01:15:10.340 And then, thank God, Trump read it. 0.99

01:15:12.200 And boy, that Mexican rapist stuff is that all over. 1.00

01:15:16.080 Adios, America. 0.98

01:15:17.420 And the day he was inaugurated, I thought my – and I was emailing with, you know, Stephen Miller and the other few simpatico people saying, suddenly our hope has gone from 10% to 90% to save the country. 0.89

01:15:31.880 And then we got term one, and he didn't do anything.

01:15:34.220 And everyone, you know, down – and also, Biden brought in 20 million new illegal aliens.

01:15:40.700 We already had about 40 million.

01:15:43.940 And what are the chances now?

01:15:46.660 I don't know.

01:15:47.700 Let's see if Trump and the other Republicans can keep their promises.

01:15:50.740 But I think you guys are way better off.

01:15:52.320 You just have to do the right stuff.

01:15:55.360 Like Elect Farage.

01:15:56.620 Well, I think the problem is you say do the right stuff.

01:16:00.140 I look at Keir Starmer.

01:16:01.780 I don't think that's going to happen.

01:16:03.760 And he's going to be in power for four years.

01:16:06.100 Now, if he's actually going to make it through those four years, I think it's a big question.

01:16:10.000 Even though we do tend to have very rigid rules, there could be an earlier election.

01:16:13.940 It depends on what happens.

01:16:16.020 That would be fantastic.

01:16:17.680 And why do you like Farage so much?

01:16:19.500 Well, he's a leader of Brexit.

01:16:22.720 He's been responsible for a long time.

01:16:24.780 I went to one of his press conferences this week, and he's very good on his feet.

01:16:29.760 Had great answers for everything.

01:16:31.820 Also very good on free speech.

01:16:33.740 With that, he was attacking that safety act, which instantly started showing up in my internet feed, by the way.

01:16:40.080 It's unbelievable.

01:16:42.300 You're the mother country.

01:16:44.260 You're supposed to believe in free speech.

01:16:47.340 But wait, what is it?

01:16:48.160 Oh, how about, wasn't Trump's advice to Starmer hilarious?

01:16:53.220 He's telling him basically to do everything Farage is recommending.

01:16:59.360 Yeah.

01:17:00.100 I mean, and then he, for good measure, he gave a few swipes against our mayor.

01:17:04.340 I loved that.

01:17:05.420 But I loved him acting like he's just talking, like Starmer is going to take it.

01:17:09.860 You got to cut off the boat.

01:17:11.640 You got to send him home.

01:17:13.400 And the safety act, cut taxes, as if he's just, you know, putting his arm around him, giving him some good brotherly advice.

01:17:22.740 Do you know what you're talking to?

01:17:23.560 And I'm sure Starmer will listen very carefully.

01:17:25.700 Take it under advisement.

01:17:27.180 Before Anne answers the final question at the end of the interview, make sure to head over to our sub stack. 0.68

01:17:32.880 The link is in the description where you'll be able to see this.

01:17:36.660 You're the only public figure I've seen point out on Bill Maher's show that when the media doesn't announce a suspect's race in the headline, we know the suspect is not white.

01:17:45.520 This trend is so obvious and so racist.

01:17:47.280 Why has no one else spoken out about it?

01:17:48.840 Do you think history will come to see Elon Musk as a tragic patriot?

01:17:53.020 What is your prediction for the candidates in the 2028 race?

01:17:57.460 JD.

01:17:58.100 Definitely JD.

01:17:59.240 And on the Democrats?

01:18:00.280 Oh, my gosh. 1.00

01:18:01.000 They are so screwed. 0.99

01:18:02.520 Anne, we're going to head over to our sub stack in a second where our audience get to ask you their questions. 0.99

01:18:07.280 You've requested questions with the C word against you.

01:18:10.220 So we'll do as many of those as we can.

01:18:12.140 Well, I was just saying you don't need to edit them.

01:18:14.500 Well, now we certainly won't, if there are any.

01:18:17.100 But before we head on over there, what's the one thing we're not talking about that we shouldn't be?

01:18:21.560 Well, we covered probably enough to bore your audience, my number one topic the most.

01:18:27.540 And then we covered my second most favorite topic, Epstein.

01:18:34.320 It doesn't have to be politics.

01:18:35.720 It can be absolutely anything.

01:18:37.140 Well, there's Sidney Sweeney.

01:18:38.320 That's fantastic.

01:18:39.980 I was asking my guys earlier today because I've not been very well last week.

01:18:44.080 I've taken a week off the Internet mainly.

01:18:45.660 And then I came back and basically, explain this to me, right? 0.99

01:18:48.960 What happened is this jeans company put a blonde girl with big tits in an ad. 1.00

01:18:54.340 Not exactly that. 0.99

01:18:56.260 I think you're demeaning it.

01:19:00.560 She's a pretty all-American girl. 0.98

01:19:03.260 That's what I'm saying.

01:19:03.900 Great.

01:19:04.400 I'm all in favor of that. 0.99

01:19:05.420 But I don't think it's the big tits. 1.00

01:19:07.680 That's a very female perspective. 1.00

01:19:09.680 But anyway.

01:19:09.960 Let's be honest. 0.94

01:19:11.300 The boobs do play a massive part of it. 1.00

01:19:13.980 Okay. 0.99

01:19:14.180 Let's not zero in on the tits. 0.99

01:19:18.340 Not if she had Kamala Harris's face. 0.98

01:19:20.160 I was unnecessarily crass.

01:19:21.960 They put an attractive blue-eyed blonde girl on a jeans ad and they said she's got great 0.99

01:19:26.600 jeans, playing on the word jeans.

01:19:29.560 And everyone said they're Nazis. 0.95

01:19:30.900 Nazis.

01:19:31.180 Is that what happened?

01:19:32.300 Yep.

01:19:32.540 No, not everyone.

01:19:34.380 The, you know, so moderate and normal Democratic Party.

01:19:39.020 That doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

01:19:40.480 I don't even understand the leap of logic exactly.

01:19:43.240 Is being blonde and blue-eyed, I mean, you're, nah, I see where they're going. 0.99

01:19:49.640 Exactly.

01:19:50.200 Um, well, what's funny, I'm doubly, quadruply funny about this is, um, basically since George

01:19:58.980 Floyd, there have been no blonde models, zero, every TV commercial, every magazine commercial, 1.00

01:20:05.640 it's just black, black, blackity, black, black, black, black, black. 0.98

01:20:08.880 And, you know, it's 13% of the population. 0.98

01:20:12.880 They're just begging people to say, what the F?

01:20:17.640 So they can say, oh, does that offend you?

01:20:19.400 No, but it's weird.

01:20:21.720 It's just weird to say, I mean, why not have, you know, every ad with a one-legged man?

01:20:27.080 It's, it's just weird that they're obsessed with this.

01:20:29.620 And now for the first time, and if they would have someone who wasn't, you know, um, obviously,

01:20:34.920 um, black, it would have to be this neutral, could be Hispanic.

01:20:39.360 Yeah, there's this like racially ambiguous category now.

01:20:42.400 That's the one that-

01:20:43.340 But not blonde. 0.87

01:20:44.620 Yeah, I see.

01:20:45.320 Cannot be blonde. 0.98

01:20:46.260 Yeah, but why does that make them Nazis?

01:20:47.840 Like, I don't get it.

01:20:49.600 Because the Democratic Party learned so much from the 2024 election.

01:20:53.020 Yeah, they really haven't, haven't they?

01:20:54.260 Let's try to be normal.

01:20:55.580 We're trying, we're trying.

01:20:56.360 Let's head over to Substack where our audience are going to call Ann names. 1.00

01:20:59.620 See you then.

01:21:01.860 Which is a better media strategy and odds of success for the Trump administration over the

01:21:06.320 Russiagate probe to target Hillary alone, or Hillary with Obama, Brennan, and Comey,

01:21:10.440 or another variation of the major players, and who would you target?

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TRIGGERnometry - August 13, 2025

Trump is the Most Corrupt President in History - Ann Coulter

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