True Patriot Love - AI Is Coming For Your Job... Or Is It？ ft. Adeel Khan

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00:00:21.140 we are talking about something that has students terrified. Let me read this to you.

00:00:26.360 It's a heavy time to be entering the workforce.

00:00:29.160 In 2026, we aren't just talking about robots and factories anymore.

00:00:32.900 AI has moved into the thinking jobs that used to be a safe bet for middle class life.

00:00:39.540 Now that comes from a graduation speech made right here in Waterloo, Ontario.

00:00:46.160 And that's terrifying to me because that's the height of technology here in Canada, many think.

00:00:51.100 Talking to us more about AI and the future of your jobs.

00:00:54.360 Oh, my good God.

00:00:56.200 Adil Khan, Vozin AI, they are a software as a service company right here in Canada.

00:01:03.360 And Adil is the head of capital markets, which means you do want this AI thing to succeed.

00:01:09.260 Well, the rest of us are going to try and tamp it down and save our jobs.

00:01:12.440 Well, yes and no.

00:01:14.900 Okay.

00:01:15.900 I look, I believe, you know, the good of humanity, the collective good of humanity.

00:01:20.840 But I also believe heavily on how we can advance ourselves as a civilization with this new technology.

00:01:28.500 Well, I think you can see that I was trying to blow it up a little bit beyond what it is, because I think everyday life right now, AI, it's helpful alongside being irritating in a 50-50 ratio, I believe.

00:01:42.640 What am I looking at?

00:01:44.040 Everybody is now filtering AI in their own brain.

00:01:46.640 I don't know how healthy that is for human beings to have to detect something so close to reality and understand whether it is or not.

00:01:55.100 Seeing isn't believing anymore, and it used to be.

00:01:57.120 Right.

00:01:57.660 The other thing is it's very helpful.

00:01:59.520 I mean, if you need to write an essay in 12 minutes that gets you through the graduating process, I think ChatGPT probably has some means of doing that for you.

00:02:09.700 But let me ask you, is it kind of an overblown scenario?

00:02:14.220 I got a couple of stats I can throw out.

00:02:16.100 Just to see if these line up with what you're hearing out there.

00:02:19.580 21% of grads believe their education is already obsolete.

00:02:23.560 59% of Gen Z see AI as a threat to careers.

00:02:27.600 And 62% of students are concerned about AI's job impact.

00:02:32.780 Do you think these fears are founded in reality?

00:02:36.380 I would say yes.

00:02:40.100 But there's more context to it.

00:02:41.940 But the thing is, most people, especially right now in 2026, they don't know enough

00:02:47.780 about AI.

00:02:49.000 It's still a very new concept.

00:02:50.600 Now, yes, it's existed for a long time now, but in the mainstream, really when OpenAI

00:02:56.340 released its GPT, people really started to understand this.

00:03:00.920 And I just think that, yes, it will replace entry-level jobs.

00:03:05.620 We're going to see less of the lower ladder on the corporate career almost disappear.

00:03:10.780 we're going to see more middle management and senior management kind of operators take over.

00:03:15.260 But I would say, yes, I think it's very grounded. I think their fear is real. But I also think it

00:03:20.860 stems from the fact that people are not informed. Most people don't know how to use AI. Most people

00:03:26.220 are still teaching, treating it like a, like a chat bot, you know? So that's the main product

00:03:31.740 that's out there, right? Pretty much. Pretty much. Yeah. It started as a chat bot, but you know,

00:03:36.220 it's extended to agents and extended to different types of prompt engineering. And

00:03:40.300 there's so many nuances that they're not communicated in the universities and i would

00:03:46.860 say modern day academia and policy and governance it hasn't caught up as fast as the tech has um

00:03:53.740 i would say their fears are real and it makes sense but also stems from to my earlier point uh

00:03:58.940 a lack of understanding of of what this new technology really is okay let's turn it upside

00:04:03.100 down then yeah let's look at the bottom of the pyramid then where most of us stand uh at the

00:04:07.340 the moment. It is mainly a chat bot. I really like the feature on my phone that can put a

00:04:13.380 mariachi band behind you. That's very convincing and I can send it to you. So there are, at the

00:04:18.400 moment, it seems like the general public has a novel sense of what's going on with AI, but we

00:04:25.800 are now starting to understand that it shows up in other places. I did a show a couple of weeks ago

00:04:30.160 where AI is in the courtroom and it's actually helping truncate the process that can otherwise

00:04:36.020 be pretty onerous right the courtroom right uh where else are we seeing huge advantageous moments

00:04:43.060 where ai doesn't take the job away makes the job better look i think we're seeing it across

00:04:48.980 every single industry i'll say i think we're seeing it everywhere it's just not as advertised

00:04:54.500 let's just say and i'll say this ai is great for synthesizing information so if you're in the court

00:05:00.180 and you're you know your lawyer or your dealer you're in a paralegal whatever you're dealing with

00:05:03.140 that, you know, you're able to pull information and create documents and synthesize information

00:05:09.060 well, but that will never replace the leverage that you have from experience.

00:05:13.460 And I've noticed this coming from some of my mentors that have really taught me and

00:05:18.660 helped me in my career, is that when they use AI, they're using it from 45 years of

00:05:24.820 real business experience versus a student coming out of college and, you know, they're

00:05:28.880 typing something dumb on GPT and hoping to get some kind of, you know, miraculous enlightenment

00:05:33.980 It's the leverage that people are going to see at the top, to your point, are the ones 0.53

00:05:38.620 that have experience and the ones that know how to utilize the technology.

00:05:42.400 It kind of makes me think of something from, I had a Commodore 64, ask your dad.

00:05:49.920 And it was the biggest thing you could like put a code in there and stuff.

00:05:54.560 And I remember my teacher saying to me, remember Mike, garbage in, garbage out.

00:06:00.100 And I think that you're right then that experience factor.

00:06:03.020 the human experience on top of the ability to process mathematically, synthesize information

00:06:13.020 quickly, filter quickly, that could make experts in the field that much more powerful.

00:06:18.480 A hundred percent, a hundred percent. And the way AI can synthesize information, it's like,

00:06:23.420 we can't rival that as people. It's humanly impossible. But what we do have, and what AI

00:06:30.560 will never replace is the human factor. Let's talk a little bit about what you guys are up to.

00:06:35.480 Vozen AI is really specifically in the communication space, I would have to say. Tell us a little bit

00:06:43.140 about what the company is working on right now. 100%. So at its core, what we do is we do real

00:06:48.480 time contextual localization. So super simple. Something about maybe 51% of the world's content

00:06:55.940 is in English, but only really, and don't quote me on the exact number here, but like maybe 20%

00:07:02.540 of people. ChatGPT, is the deal lying to us? Just kidding. Yeah. Like, you know, it's interesting

00:07:09.620 because 50% of the world content is in English, but only 20% of people access it and can speak

00:07:16.080 the language. And so now you have this massive demographic of people that they can't interact

00:07:21.720 with the world's content the same way people like you or me who can you know and even for us we

00:07:26.840 can't access the other 49 because maybe we only speak english as an example and what vosen is

00:07:32.360 able to do is we're able to bring contextual understanding to that layer so as an example

00:07:37.400 super simple i speak urdu as a second language luckily i'm fluent um you know i've been brought

00:07:42.360 up and you know i was in the environment and in urdu it's really interesting because in urdu

00:07:46.360 the word tomorrow and the word yesterday is the same word oh my god it's completely two different

00:07:51.000 meanings that's incredible is there a different emphasis on the way that you say it even it

00:07:55.000 actually is based on where you format it within the sentence and it's the contextual understanding

00:07:59.960 and sometimes you you know someone like me who's native in both languages i'd understand in a

00:08:04.360 heartbeat but someone who's not it's like and and subs subbing and and dubbing you can't get the

00:08:10.360 same response out of that we've seen that i think netflix has been a good example of that and amazon

00:08:15.880 I live in a household with two languages as well.

00:08:18.820 We have Spanish and English. 0.96

00:08:20.040 And when I see the Spanish treatment of English programming, I'm horrified. 0.99

00:08:25.940 I mean, like it's really bad at times.

00:08:28.540 Not even context is out of whack, literally sentence structure breaks down.

00:08:36.420 So I can see.

00:08:37.600 So now what Vozin does is bridge that gap somehow?

00:08:41.520 Absolutely.

00:08:42.340 Really what it is, is it's an experience layer.

00:08:46.180 Because if you're watching, as to your point, you're watching something in Spanish and it's

00:08:50.340 dubbed in English, I mean, and it's completely haywire.

00:08:52.980 I mean, you're losing that experience.

00:08:54.400 It would be the same way as if you were to go to the East and tell people about, you

00:08:57.920 know, we use this example a lot, Morgan Freeman, Shawshank Redemption and his acting.

00:09:01.880 Okay. 1.00

00:09:02.300 But somebody in the East who doesn't speak English or the first time, like, you can't 1.00

00:09:05.960 convey the same essence of the actor, the skill, all that stuff. 1.00

00:09:08.980 It gets completely lost.

00:09:09.980 Well, what do you do about this?

00:09:10.920 morgan freeman doesn't have a really uh he has a very distinctive voice like you do not want

00:09:17.380 something yeah that you need his and how do you guys handle that does that compensate as well

00:09:23.740 in other words would i hear it in urdu and still have the same timber and obvious recognition of

00:09:31.780 morgan freeman's voice that's the beauty of it absolutely yes because it protects that's what

00:09:36.800 our technology protects it protects the individuality of the person's voice the cadence

00:09:41.700 the tonality i mean we all speak in different i guess rhythms we all have our own nuances when we

00:09:46.560 all speak it's how we communicate yeah and and and our our reasoning model it captures that and you

00:09:52.440 would be listening to morgan freeman as though he was born and raised in china speaking mandarin

00:09:56.940 with the same voice same timbre absolutely wow and look it goes a step further you could listen

00:10:03.560 to any types of music. I was talking to one of our close friends of mine, and I told him, he's a

00:10:08.940 very great music guy. He's a disc, he's a collector. And I told him, you can listen to Drake in Hindi.

00:10:14.420 I don't know why you'd want to do that, but you can. And any type of music, contextually accurate,

00:10:19.160 any type of language, I mean, really changes, again, to my point, it changes how we experience

00:10:23.800 the world's content. A lot of language is cultural. Absolutely. Once again, in my household,

00:10:29.640 um i might hear uh i will say something to my wife and she'll say no no no yes well that's a

00:10:36.340 hard yes just so you know that's a cultural thing more than a language uh thing per se so this

00:10:44.320 allows i would imagine for more of that nuance absolutely which is everything absolutely it's

00:10:50.720 interesting because even in like in parts of certain parts i'm not indian but parts of india

00:10:54.080 I've traveled and a yes often is a effort, like, yes, I hear you, not a yes confirmation.

00:11:00.280 I understand.

00:11:00.900 You know, it's not a yes, I understand.

00:11:02.200 It's a yes, I'm hearing you right now.

00:11:03.640 But it's understanding and it's totally different.

00:11:07.320 And, you know, and you're right.

00:11:08.940 It's culture.

00:11:10.700 It really impacts language.

00:11:12.600 So now this feels like a learning tool to me.

00:11:15.320 Suddenly, if I need to understand something in a part of India that is in the news or

00:11:22.140 in technology and a video comes up, let's say on YouTube, I'm interested in the topic.

00:11:27.780 First of all, I might see this topic for the first time ever.

00:11:31.940 Secondly, it's contextualized from my understanding and my processing of it.

00:11:36.960 So for the first time, really, and often maybe this would be the only way that it could happen,

00:11:41.420 a real connection is made right because of that context making 100 the the core for us is human

00:11:49.760 understanding and i think if we understand each other better i think we'd get along a lot better

00:11:54.480 as well wow really that's the that's fantastic okay so now i can almost see that being used in

00:12:01.860 jobs that doesn't say that doesn't seem to eliminate a job that seems to increase a market

00:12:06.160 increased knowledge yeah that's i'll say this because and of course it involves morgan freeman

00:12:12.780 at the at the base of it yeah before anything happens whether it's a deal or morgan freeman

00:12:17.700 or our producer nick yeah presenting that content it's that origin remains there through this

00:12:25.560 process absolutely it's authentic it doesn't get diluted as it changes i guess uh channels of how

00:12:33.680 it's communicated the deal did you come here to freak me out is that what's going on here

00:12:37.360 uh that's incredible uh technology so now that might replace translators that might replace

00:12:47.400 voice dubbing people but it's not replacing an industry it's not replacing morgan freeman i

00:12:53.500 think that's some context to build around it your own technology yeah i'll say this it's a great

00:12:58.700 question first of all and i'll position it like this in 1995 or something the the role of a social

00:13:06.780 media manager you know if you go up to someone and say i want to be a social media manager like

00:13:11.180 what the hell are you talking about what even is that and through the evolution of technology jobs

00:13:17.100 have arised like as an example a social media manager right i think with ai it's going to be

00:13:22.860 the same thing you're going to see this but in a much larger scale you're going to see a lot of

00:13:26.540 entry level jobs dissipate. But then you're going to see a lot of new jobs that are really

00:13:31.400 are. And I don't know what those are, to be honest. I think a lot of them might be related

00:13:36.040 to operator type jobs. So as an example with me, I'll give you my example. I guess it's the best

00:13:40.400 example to give. But I run a department under Invosid. And, you know, we used to have maybe 15

00:13:45.420 or 20 people in the department and interns and sound. They're all we don't need them because we

00:13:50.040 have agents that can do them. So now all it takes is for me or one other person to just operate how

00:13:55.060 many emails did this agent send? How many, you know, did they send XYZ document or what's going

00:14:00.540 on? Really, it replaces the, our job as, or I guess it replaces interns and it allows us to

00:14:07.480 become operators. So now really what I'm looking for in the right, I guess, hire is, can you

00:14:12.620 operate agents? Not necessarily, can you just do menial tasks for me? So can you actually use AI

00:14:18.160 the way that we are implementing it can you advance the company with this kind of ai okay

00:14:24.800 so what are the jobs that i mean it i don't know that ai is going to replace somebody installing

00:14:31.520 drywall or doing plumbing right right uh in one of the the various really important uh fields of

00:14:38.560 trades out there the hands-on the mining the industry however i can see ai lending a hand

00:14:45.040 finding where a deposit is properly, making things safer in a scenario, assisting in the

00:14:51.680 process of many things in the industry. But what do you think some of the jobs that

00:14:57.520 we'll start to see in degrees and diplomas and certificates that we'll start to see

00:15:03.040 in the next three to four years? Yeah, I think it's a good question.

00:15:09.120 I think certain jobs, as an example, bookkeeping is gone. So I would layer this in different

00:15:17.260 categories, almost put this in different buckets. There's, there's jobs that will be completely

00:15:20.940 eliminated. And then there's jobs that might be changed or, you know, altered because of the use

00:15:25.860 of AI. And then there's going to be jobs that are completely created, like as of new, that we don't

00:15:30.140 even know as of now, when I start with the third bucket, and I say jobs that are going to be

00:15:34.540 created, I would say we're going to see more operator type roles, roles that really you

00:15:39.160 function as the executive leading a number of agents through doing different tasks.

00:15:44.220 And you're going to see more, let's just say, solo entrepreneurs pick up and you're

00:15:48.600 going to see more people starting businesses because the entry gap to starting a business

00:15:52.540 and finding a path to profitability has never been easier now than it's ever been.

00:15:57.700 Registering a business, you know, AI tools can do most of it and you can vibe code a

00:16:02.200 website.

00:16:02.800 It's really easy to do.

00:16:04.540 The jobs that will be, let's just say, in the middle bucket, the ones that are going to be

00:16:09.500 altered, as an example, I'll give you sales. Like in business development, I gave that example

00:16:13.780 earlier. It's less, it's more human in the loop factor. Now it's more about, okay, so the emails

00:16:20.640 are being sent out, the legal documents are being sent out, all the smaller stuff that frankly is

00:16:24.900 kind of boring and I don't want to do is already done with agents. But now I can come in and I can

00:16:29.200 really, you know, talk and I can be the human in the loop. So we're going to see more people

00:16:33.160 that are human in the loop aspect that's going to really, I would say, it's going to be more

00:16:38.700 important than someone who can send out emails or something. So maybe a business degree becomes

00:16:43.740 more feasible because AI is, like you say, that gap is there. I don't think there's that

00:16:50.640 layer of programming necessarily that's going to be as huge a function. I don't think we need

00:16:58.120 a hundred million programmers, we need much less in the programming. Operators in each area of

00:17:05.420 business. So I guess what we're talking about is jobs don't get taken away from AI. Jobs get

00:17:13.960 enhanced with AI. In your case, you took a layer of, I guess, interns away that were doing menial

00:17:23.940 things and replace your needs with real knowledgeable people who can operate AI, not necessarily

00:17:31.380 programming. Right, right. And I'll add on to this and great points. I think in because you

00:17:39.260 mentioned business degrees, I think that what's going to be more important in academia is people

00:17:45.320 who have personal interpersonal skills, communication skills, people who can connect

00:17:48.800 rather than people who can just do tasks. I think that's where we're going to see. And I don't know

00:17:53.560 academia is caught up i'm actually not a graduate i dropped out when i was very young and you know

00:17:58.040 i had a whole story but um so i'm not too aware of the ecosystem but from my understanding when

00:18:03.720 i i have like two years of i had two years of my uh bachelor's in business um i think we're

00:18:09.880 going to see more emphasis on people who have communication skills and people who can connect

00:18:14.200 with people people who can actually be the human in the loop rather than the people to your point

00:18:17.640 earlier is you know sending emails and smaller tasks here's some terrifying quotes it doesn't

00:18:23.960 matter if you're a programmer designer product manager data scientist lawyer customer support

00:18:28.680 rep salesperson or finance person ai is coming for you that's uh uh misha kaufman the ceo of

00:18:36.120 fiverr said that just may of this year uh last year um you know that's a terrifying thing but

00:18:44.840 But as I take a look at that list, programmer, designer, product manager, data scientist, lawyer,

00:18:50.720 these are all places where people are adapting to AI and enhancing their world.

00:18:57.520 I haven't seen a lot of people replaced by AI in this realm.

00:19:01.260 In fact, have you ever tried to get an image from, like, let's say, ChatGPT that was for a presentation?

00:19:09.100 Right.

00:19:10.260 No, you still need a graphic designer.

00:19:12.060 You still need a writer.

00:19:13.700 you still need that human right in the process that's interesting actually sparks a number of

00:19:19.960 thoughts in my head as you mentioned that so yes you do but as of right now you still need that

00:19:25.720 person that human in the loop you know that extra designer who could say oh you know this doesn't

00:19:29.800 look right or that doesn't look right but the scary part and i'm not trying to scare anyone

00:19:34.340 no go ahead scary the the scary part is that it's only it's only 2026 we're still in the early

00:19:41.560 stages of this emerging market. And I really believe that as these reasoning models are going

00:19:47.820 to get better and better and better. So whatever they can't do now, they're definitely going to

00:19:51.640 be able to do later. ChatGPT, it struggled with making consistent images over, let's say, if you

00:19:59.380 did five, 10 images, it would have these discrepancies. But now you can find that consistency.

00:20:04.520 And obviously, there's other nuances related to that. But we're seeing a gradual improvement. And

00:20:08.420 it's not even gradual really it's very it's rapid yeah what is gradual in this uh modern era it takes

00:20:14.260 place within hours not days even that's what i'm saying you you can't even fathom this the element

00:20:19.420 of speed because things move so fast i mean it's it's crazy because people all these companies are

00:20:24.900 coming up you know and the next day uh anthropic you know they do some random update and then like

00:20:30.720 100 000 companies go obsolete right and it's just it's moving so fast it's almost impossible to keep

00:20:35.520 track of. Here's another quote. If you're looking for a path forward, the data shows a massive

00:20:41.420 shift toward human-centric physical world roles, careers like nursing, psychology,

00:20:47.840 skilled trades like electricians and HVAC, and high-level strategy. They're seeing record low

00:20:53.240 unemployment because they require physical dexterity or high-stakes empathy that AI simply

00:20:59.180 cannot simulate. I think that's a great message in all of this. The human element of society

00:21:09.360 really does still have a foundation. Even if you look 10 years down the road,

00:21:14.280 I don't think AI is installing, maybe if robots are so online and so achievable that your HVAC

00:21:21.240 company can afford to buy them. So to be honest with you, I'm still waiting for flying cars.

00:21:27.120 i know right i was waiting for that jetson yeah and i want my jetpack soon ai is fine but i want

00:21:33.020 my jetpack uh but i do think that those positions where humans need care where something needs

00:21:40.200 physically built uh you know there's humans going to be involved in that process uh i hope

00:21:47.460 yeah it's a it's a good train of thought i see what you're saying um i'll i'll i'll respond to

00:21:54.660 this in two ways um the first thing i'll say is that robotics is is is also advancing ai is

00:22:02.660 obviously advancing crazy but also on the robotic side like we're seeing like you know you're looking

00:22:07.000 at elon musk and you know like all these like new robots coming i think we'll eventually get to a

00:22:12.560 point where robots will be able to do these things and as an example i think a machine would

00:22:17.620 eventually eventually would be able to do better surgery than a qualified surgeon and then maybe

00:22:21.840 the surgeon is like a human in the loop factor. I don't know. That's a very scary. Um, I can't

00:22:26.680 avoid that. Yeah. I don't want that. I was still like a human doctor. A hundred percent. My brain

00:22:30.820 says no to that. Right. And that leads me to my second. Have you seen the robots that Elon Musk

00:22:34.940 is making? I haven't, I've seen them like move around, but I haven't, I haven't done a deep

00:22:38.540 dive. Nick, have you seen these? Yeah. They are silly. Really? They're literally, they run around

00:22:43.740 banging into things and smashing mirrors by accident. I feel badly for these robots. They're

00:22:48.660 Dummies. But I can see the future there. I can see the robotic end of things coming online. And 0.97

00:22:57.060 like you say, at the speed of which light moves in these industries, we really could be there

00:23:03.160 tomorrow. But I think it's a matter of just keeping an eye on those industries and remembering that

00:23:08.180 there are billions and billions of us here. We have the ability to prevent or accept what we

00:23:14.560 want in technology 100 and you know what's funny and and it's interesting and i have a bit of a

00:23:20.560 stat here actually just saw this just before coming to the room here but uh 80 of the companies

00:23:24.900 they're back they're backtracking on on ai implementation um not because that it it doesn't

00:23:30.580 work um or i guess partly it is because it doesn't work um there's a number of reasons why it doesn't

00:23:36.380 work without going into too many details well from hallucinations to right uh just implementation

00:23:41.820 like governance policy big tech can't implement ai as fast as small as company can because there's

00:23:47.360 a lot of bureaucracy dealing with it and we're seeing real backtrack and i think people are

00:23:52.260 going to speak i also think that common sense is going to prevail i don't believe that we're just

00:23:56.180 going to destroy ourselves because you know we're advancing technology i think there's there's more

00:24:01.300 thought to it than that you know deal you actually did calm me down i really appreciate this uh where

00:24:06.580 can people find out more about those and is there a sample up someplace they can see of what you

00:24:10.540 guys do look uh you can drop my email you can always contact me directly otherwise you can

00:24:15.600 visit bosun.ai we're also on linkedin we're giving constant updates we're on instagram

00:24:19.600 we're sharing uh our vision and our mission with the world every single day and uh we'd love to

00:24:24.100 have you part of that this sounds so cool uh i will try to include that link in the uh in in the

00:24:30.100 uh description of the show and uh i'll make sure that people can reach out to you thanks i really

00:24:35.140 appreciate this absolutely thanks man thank you for joining us uh don't forget subscribe tell a

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00:25:04.740 in the country you love surrounded by people you love and great weather being a patriot is being

00:25:09.480 part of your community and caring for it it doesn't matter who you are or where you're from

00:25:13.880 patriotism is the one thing we all share it's okay to be critical of government and still be

00:25:19.960 a patriot it's gratitude to your country of course i'm a patriot i'm canadian it's my home

00:25:25.640 Well, actually, true patriot love is the mission.

True Patriot Love - April 07, 2026

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