True Patriot Love - July 21, 2026


Birth Rates Continue To Decline In Canada


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00:00:00.000 think about okay the 40s 50s 60s if the government encouraged families to have kids if um the church
00:00:07.280 if the community groups let's have a family most people listen to that now in 2026 going into into
00:00:14.800 the 2030s you don't trust any of it though right why as a young person how much trust do you have
00:00:20.000 this is where i was going to say is how how much of this is lack of hope and lack of trust
00:00:24.000 canada japan italy and south korea have many things in common not the least of which there
00:00:33.280 are four of the countries in the world with some of the lowest birth rates on the planet
00:00:38.160 and that's adding to a bit of a issue when it comes to demographics to talk more about it 0.96
00:00:42.640 liam deborah liam how you doing great great yeah and brady you sweet bastard what's happening
00:00:47.920 how are you man how are you good um it's something i know it's been in the news a
00:00:51.840 a lot gentlemen yeah elon musk has posted a lot on s x about it he's passionate about it but
00:00:58.020 there's been scientific research by some of the most um you know in-depth universities on the
00:01:03.680 planet worried about the population changes and how it's going to affect a lot of countries
00:01:08.720 as the aging population outstrips new birth rates it could be a bit of a future economic crisis
00:01:14.700 yeah i my stance on it is very like normally on this network i don't get too too firm in my
00:01:21.140 conservative beliefs but i'm definitely kind of in the conservative uh belief system as to why
00:01:26.520 this is happening and i'll elaborate as we get we get going now liam for some scientists and some
00:01:31.440 people who spend their life looking at stats and demographics they're calling it a crisis for a lot
00:01:35.900 of countries canada included where do you stand on it well yeah i for sure see it is i mean it's
00:01:41.380 driving a lot of different issues whether it be economic activity i mean even what we're seeing
00:01:47.200 with the push towards mass migration.
00:01:50.260 That's obviously being seen as a solution to this.
00:01:53.960 Even the UN released a report about 20 years ago
00:01:57.600 pushing for these exact policies
00:02:00.440 that we see being implemented now
00:02:02.140 in order to deal with that.
00:02:03.560 Because yeah, we've got large welfare services 0.97
00:02:07.040 and social services that need a tax base
00:02:09.920 in order to fund them.
00:02:11.140 And yeah, if we have an aging population,
00:02:13.480 not enough people going into the workforce,
00:02:15.120 then they're going to they're going to push for certain levers to pull so right now according to
00:02:20.620 all the numbers Canadians without kids want roughly two kids instead of the average of only 1.25 now I
00:02:27.300 thought that was interesting my partner and I we have two daughters in their 20s they're both
00:02:31.680 graduated school they're making their way through business and their chosen careers but realistically
00:02:37.720 between the two of them we might get one grandkid because that's just how they view life and
00:02:43.240 everything and we know a lot of couples our age in the same boat with sons and daughters but mainly
00:02:49.360 daughters in the same age they're looking at if they have a family it's one kid or maybe no kids
00:02:53.880 at all i think that's as a as a country he's canon a lot of society in western europe and north
00:02:58.980 america that's becoming more commonly now is that because they're so busy like you would know this
00:03:03.400 personally with them because obviously you're their father is it because they're so busy are
00:03:06.540 they waiting is it like have you had this conversation with them our youngest it's choice
00:03:10.920 She loves kids, but doesn't think she wants to bring one into the world and raise one.
00:03:17.860 Our oldest definitely would, whether or not she gives birth or adopts. 0.90
00:03:23.940 But it's just their attitudes towards family and kids.
00:03:27.760 I think overall, for a lot of young people, especially women and young men in their early mid-20s,
00:03:34.500 it's changed than it was 15, 20 years ago.
00:03:36.680 Things have changed.
00:03:37.700 The world has changed.
00:03:38.520 the reason why i ask so i'm in my my early 40s right um uh and i knew at 18 i wasn't gonna have
00:03:45.800 kids so i made that that choice um i was like i don't know if i kind of the same things you're
00:03:51.560 saying i don't i thought back then you know that 24 years ago that this was maybe a bad idea that
00:03:59.240 i could see the direction of where things were heading i didn't obviously can't predict the
00:04:02.280 future but i just felt like i wasn't going to be in a position where i was able to ever have kids
00:04:07.080 because i didn't think i would ever have the time to be able to focus on them that i wanted to be
00:04:11.080 successful and the only way that i could is by dedicating 10 to 15 hours a day yeah seven days
00:04:16.440 a week into whatever i was putting my effort into and i collectively had made that decision at 18.
00:04:21.160 so the reason why i'm asking you is i'm just trying to figure out if their decision making
00:04:24.200 was the same that i had at somewhat at that age i know for our oldest she's you know competing
00:04:30.680 um trying to complete her masters but she definitely down the road as she gets older
00:04:35.960 and more established she's looking at a family but cassandra our youngest is like
00:04:40.600 it's not really her thing and we'd like we totally respect it she like she'll be the cool aunt i
00:04:45.960 guess uh if we have a grandkid but you know liam like she's just it's not not for against it's just
00:04:52.520 not what she's planning i don't know if things change but that's not right now in her future
00:04:56.840 it's nothing she thinks about liam do you have kids i don't i don't i would love to though okay
00:05:01.480 okay so your your mentality is that eventually one day you're gonna have a family if you
00:05:05.560 actively working towards it i keep that it's not for me it's not a mentality of okay i got to do
00:05:11.720 xyz thing before i make that step it's more so trying to find somebody that wants to approach
00:05:18.680 it the same as i do because what i find a lot in the modern dating market is that people assume
00:05:25.400 things like a family and kids and all of that is going to just we don't think about it we just
00:05:31.240 enjoy each other's time and company and we uh we're here to we're here to have fun and and
00:05:36.440 that things will kind of just come together they'll fall together and i'm like no that's not
00:05:40.520 how i want to go about it though because that's how i think a lot of families end up dysfunctional
00:05:45.160 right is i kind of want to go into it with a little bit more uh more awareness and more planning
00:05:50.280 and being like okay you know what what is this going to look like and have a partner with a
00:05:54.360 similar mindset right and that's that's what i found the most difficult part is finding somebody
00:06:00.120 that values it to the same degree that I would because I was 32 before I met my my wife and up
00:06:05.820 until then I thought of having a family or kid was not in my mindset whatsoever as I got older
00:06:11.600 I just thought yeah and then I met someone and then we realized you know we were in in sync and
00:06:17.380 so many things and eventually got married to kids but up until then you know like no I was like oh
00:06:22.600 I guess it's not happening and I think I think a big part too when we're talking about that
00:06:27.480 disconnect between how many kids people want versus how many they actually have is and i see
00:06:32.800 this across the board in so many different discussions not necessarily just families but
00:06:37.900 people wanting the reward of something but not the cost input and so so it's like i want the
00:06:45.160 reward of this amazing family or you see the same thing with business and career and money like i
00:06:49.700 i want to be rich and then but you go well here's the cost here's the price tag and they don't want
00:06:54.780 to pay that which is the time the effort the responsibility and so on there was a fascinating
00:07:00.620 report that came out just yesterday for the first time in u.s history women over 40 are having more
00:07:07.920 babies than teenagers yeah you're saying that and and that shocked a lot of people so for years
00:07:13.320 especially in american society agricultural rural society a woman having a child at 18 19 was not
00:07:20.360 unusual at all i i knew it when i was young i had friends that were having kids at 15 right i knew
00:07:26.540 girls as young as 14 having kids which we don't recommend but no but i mean it happened in my
00:07:31.640 generation in the late 90s i knew numerous people and so i think a lot of that is education among
00:07:39.460 young women sex education the ability to make sure you have proper birth control and the different
00:07:45.680 varieties of it that's changed and and you know there's been many studies that post-covid a lot
00:07:52.360 of young people aren't socializing like they did pre-covid there there has been a social shift
00:07:57.420 about when you meet someone how you meet someone and maybe there's going to be a gap until
00:08:01.940 you sort of mature out of that struggle of post-covid that hit a lot of people
00:08:06.100 and then find that person that partner you're looking for in life so when you see this in the
00:08:11.140 news and when we when we see facts that are put together like this we're getting a lot of the
00:08:15.680 facts as to the numbers as to it's declining and we know it's declining yes and we can share our
00:08:21.380 opinions as to why we think it's declining all we want but has there ever been a report that says
00:08:26.480 directly why is this declining in canada specifically well yeah the floor is yours
00:08:33.040 well i was gonna say i i think it's tough because i don't view the world and the way that it unfolds
00:08:39.560 as a linear cause because in terms of like A doesn't cause B which causes C which causes D
00:08:45.960 it's more like a network where they all have effects on one another and we even see this in
00:08:51.160 terms of like bad habits you could you could think about this as like a societal bad habit that we've
00:08:56.200 had towards family uh family building and relationships but even just on a more personal
00:09:01.400 scale you could think about it in terms of well okay people eat they binge eat because they don't
00:09:08.060 feel good about themselves but then they don't feel good about themselves because they've been
00:09:11.760 the number one like a spiral yeah number one sold thing during the depression candy yeah i've brought
00:09:17.940 that up for during the pandemic no the actual depression the depression like the 1920s candy
00:09:23.080 really number one sold item and so i think the same thing happens here where we've got a bunch
00:09:28.640 of different aspects whether it be economics social ideals all of these kind of things that
00:09:35.620 are all factors weighing in on the issue itself and so so i think i think it's multifaceted but
00:09:42.680 i do believe the number one would be the ideal breakdown of these especially in the like the
00:09:52.380 institutions have been pushing away from them for quite a while now but after the 1960s is when we
00:09:58.600 very much changed.