True Patriot Love - January 29, 2026


Calgary Speaks as Separation Grows

Topics
separation movement growth timing
Hosted by
Shara Micucci Mike Wixson
Mentioned
Pierre Paul Ezra Mike
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5 minutes

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1,019

Sentence count

89

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In this episode, Mike and Paul discuss the separation movement in Alberta, and the impact it could have on the upcoming Conservative Party Convention. They also discuss the impact of the recent drop in oil prices and the potential impact on the price of oil and gas.

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00:00:00.000 All right. Well, here we are, Paul. Now, not necessarily invited in, as I pointed out in an earlier clip, as regular media, although we have not seen Ezra be pushed out the door either.
00:00:10.420 So it seems like it's an even playing field.
00:00:13.060 Yeah.
00:00:13.520 But I think it's interesting for us to have a quick discussion that we share with people about being in Calgary, because, yes, the Conservative Convention is going on, but Alberta is in the midst of a quandary over what to do next.
00:00:26.600 What do you think about the whole separation thing?
00:00:31.560 Well, you know, it's interesting. I had breakfast with a local business person here, a prominent business person, and I asked him the same question.
00:00:38.520 And the interesting answer I got was, you know, I'm not really following it.
00:00:43.720 And I was like, what do you mean you're not following it? I followed a little bit of it.
00:00:46.760 But he says, you got to remember, there's so many political parties here.
00:00:51.100 So, and I, before we came out, we did a little bit of a survey of the number of political factions that are in Alberta.
00:00:57.740 It's remarkable.
00:00:58.520 There's 14 that I could find, different political active parties with memberships here.
00:01:04.180 Should we start a party while we're here?
00:01:05.500 Right. But so, then I said to him, I said, well, but you do realize, and the thing that's caught our attention is,
00:01:10.860 this movement, this separation movement, this group that we're going to talk to later,
00:01:14.760 basically started off with a protest or a signing of about 1,000 people.
00:01:19.780 Then it went to 2,000 people.
00:01:21.320 Then it went to three, and it went to about 10,000 people the other night.
00:01:25.100 So, this is something that's growing.
00:01:27.000 But quickly.
00:01:27.920 Quickly. So, it's exponentially growing.
00:01:30.440 Yeah.
00:01:30.720 So, that's what I think we got to watch.
00:01:32.800 And quite frankly, the timing is very interesting.
00:01:35.560 So, the timing of this exponential growth coming into the Conservative leadership election, right,
00:01:44.300 to see if they're going to bring Pierre back or not, is very interesting timing,
00:01:48.320 which could collide together and cause a very interesting couple days in Calgary.
00:01:52.880 I would agree.
00:01:53.780 It's almost like it's the distraction that maybe Pierre needed to be able to say, well, look outdoors.
00:02:00.520 All you have to do is look outside in Alberta and see Canadians are not happy the way they are. 0.97
00:02:04.620 Well, it is a test case, right, Mike?
00:02:06.160 Yeah.
00:02:06.360 So, it is a test case.
00:02:07.520 So, you know, one of the criticisms, you know, that the Prime Minister and the Liberal Party have been getting is,
00:02:13.120 they're too far away from the common man, right?
00:02:16.800 Now, we're in oil and gas territory.
00:02:19.160 So, even when you come into the airport, when you land in Calgary, you do see, like,
00:02:23.560 you realize these are guys who are working on the oil rigs.
00:02:26.900 These are guys who are working in the manufacturing.
00:02:29.320 These are blue-collar guys, right?
00:02:31.340 The price of oil in this province makes a huge difference right down to whether they go to restaurants,
00:02:38.960 that you can buy the next thing, put an addition on your house, or even send your kids to school.
00:02:43.940 It's so dependent on that price per barrel that it's a great test case in Canada.
00:02:49.740 Well, and, you know, it's interesting.
00:02:51.020 I was looking at the long-term forecasting for oil and gas pricing.
00:02:54.500 It's $65 a barrel.
00:02:57.700 Okay.
00:02:58.160 Now, that's on the optimistic side.
00:03:00.160 So, at $65, you know, people live okay, but it's not boom, like, you're not in boom era, right?
00:03:07.800 At $60, you're in trouble.
00:03:09.960 Under $60, it's bad.
00:03:11.700 So, now, if things go, you know, this is the interesting part.
00:03:15.660 If Venezuela takes off, as we talked about, and, you know, the need for us to ship to the U.S. goes down, pricing goes down, right?
00:03:26.560 The world surpluses so much that the pricing goes down, then we're in trouble, right?
00:03:31.360 Well, that's what I was going to say.
00:03:32.340 That's our forecasted price per barrel, but is that counting all of the trade deals that have fallen apart globally, us being late to the table, potentially, and then not even having a competitive product because it's flooded in the market, potentially, from Venezuela at a price nobody could compete with?
00:03:50.900 Yeah.
00:03:51.380 Well, and, you know, so think about it.
00:03:53.680 So, you're, like I mentioned, too, you know, one of the people who've come out here, you've bought, you've made your home, you've got a home, you've got a business.
00:04:01.540 You've put your equity in Calgary.
00:04:03.920 All of a sudden, the bottom drops out of the oil prices.
00:04:07.280 Your equity is gone, right?
00:04:08.620 Right.
00:04:08.720 So, these people who are coming to the street are worried.
00:04:10.660 They're concerned.
00:04:11.500 Like, you know, you can see it on their faces as they're starting to sign petitions.
00:04:15.140 They want to know what their future is.
00:04:17.160 They want to know what the pipeline future is and what's going to happen here.
00:04:21.180 And so, we're at that kind of cross, you know, we're at that crossroads where the government either needs to jump in and start to move a ball to get into the game or they don't.
00:04:30.220 And then, if they don't, you know, that's our conversation this afternoon.
00:04:33.960 What is their next move?
00:04:35.840 And on the heels of that, in Ottawa right now, you know, the premier of Alberta is there at the meeting.
00:04:43.180 I'm sure she's asking the same questions at the table.
00:04:47.020 She seems to be there, maybe under protest to some degree.
00:04:52.240 All right.
00:04:52.780 This is the focus.
00:04:55.400 Calgary.
00:04:55.840 While we're here, what's going on with separation, what's going on with the convention, the Conservative Party.
00:05:00.800 And we're going to meet some people both on the business end and just people who live in Calgary and the rest of Alberta to find out what life is like.
00:05:10.360 So, thanks.
00:05:10.840 Here we go.
00:05:11.440 Here we go.
00:05:11.800 By the way, look at this.
00:05:14.320 Yeah, look at this.
00:05:15.760 Hi, Calgary.
00:05:16.740 All right, there we go.
00:05:17.840 We've arrived.
00:05:18.500 Here we go.
00:05:19.560 Here we go.