True Patriot Love - Camp X： Canada’s Secret Spy School & The Real James Bond ｜ ft. Robbie Cressman

00:00:00 During the Second World War, hidden along the shores of Lake Ontario, a top-secret training

00:00:05 facility helped shape some of the most daring intelligence operations of the war.

00:00:10 Known as Camp X, it was Canada's answer to the world of espionage, sabotage, covert communication

00:00:16 and special operations. Agents were trained there in everything from code-breaking and

00:00:21 intelligence gathering to survival behind enemy lines. Decades later, Camp X remains one of the

00:00:26 most fascinating and mysterious chapters in canadian history today we're joined by rob

00:00:31 cressman historian and expert on camp x to separate the fact from the fiction explore the

00:00:37 camp's lasting legacy and uncover the stories of the men and women who trained in secrecy

00:00:43 to help win a global war

00:00:45 all right well uh robbie thanks so much for joining us this is so cool for me yeah uh as

00:00:55 mentioned i kind of teed you up in the intro there but uh as i take a look at and thank you

00:01:00 very much for these uh here's just a sample of the books i think that we're going to get out of

00:01:05 the crestman camp uh this first one by the way very cool tracking the little giant killer this

00:01:12 is really a story that we're going to be talking about today in many ways we're going to hear this

00:01:16 name bill underwood and his legacy of combat uh training your updated version inspired by that

00:01:23 discreet fighting i'll recommend that you reach out and i'll put the link in the description for

00:01:28 these and what we're going to be talking about today of course is camp x a little bit about you

00:01:36 first of all robbie how do you end up uh the guy who knows all about this i mean i know what you do

00:01:43 for a living but are you even allowed to share that yes i am it's some of what i do has been

00:01:48 published and so i can to some degree but uh but definitely mike wrote what's really come about is

00:01:54 it's been an unintended path to discovery of discovery for me i started off in short as a

00:02:01 silly civilian which i still still am but i've been a supporter to the special and black ops

00:02:05 communities within our allied and countries five seven and nine eyes and beyond but essentially 0.86

00:02:11 as a civilian had a love for martial arts but i was always a patriotic guy and even back in the

00:02:18 80s and 90s it kind of bothered me with respect like why do i have to go to china japan korea

00:02:23 to learn how to fight i knew our canadian military history was exemplary so a question

00:02:27 came to me essentially well you know did our canadian boys have ever i want to learn some

00:02:31 canadian did our canadian guys ever create a canadian fighting system i want to at least

00:02:35 learn something western and so i started to do the research found nothing until i came across

00:02:40 the legacy of bill underwood when everything essentially opened up and in short i discovered

00:02:45 that Canada not only has a martial art, if you will,

00:02:49 although it's birthed in the military special operations perspective,

00:02:52 it's not civilian, okay, or wasn't birthed civilian,

00:02:55 but essentially we have a grandfather of fighting,

00:02:58 and it was so effective, man,

00:02:59 that it was actually classified after World War II.

00:03:02 That's why a lot of stuff was locked down.

00:03:04 Now, he was involved publicly after World War II,

00:03:06 but his real accomplishments were actually deemed to be illegal

00:03:09 to teach outside declared war because it was that vicious and violent.

00:03:12 So I ended up reviving Bill Underwood's legacy.

00:03:15 Okay, and his original combato systems, which were taught during the war.

00:03:19 Underwood, Bill Underwood, British-born Bill Underwood, emigrated to Canada,

00:03:23 created the first fighting system for a Canadian military called combato.

00:03:26 And then after the war, he started to get asked by law enforcement and government,

00:03:30 like, hey, Bill, you were teaching our soldiers how to use their hands and so forth.

00:03:35 Can you teach our police officers combato?

00:03:37 And Bill was like, no, I can't do that.

00:03:39 Combato is designed to kill everything that moved.

00:03:40 Well, Bill, can you modify it?

00:03:42 can you modify a fighting system to be a little more defensive and subject control oriented and

00:03:47 he developed the defendo system which essentially became the template for policing defensive tactics

00:03:52 not only in canada but many places in the states so i ended up basically being the individual that

00:03:57 revived bill underwood's legacy and there was not a single reference to him on the world wide web in

00:04:02 the 90s everything that's there today is because of the research i was doing okay and that essentially

00:04:06 opened doors as i started to research the fact that huh underwood these vets would talk about

00:04:11 but the fact that Underwood was a secret instructor at this super top classified training facility called Camp X.

00:04:18 Like James Bond was born. I'm like, what? Bond was born out of this camp in Canada.

00:04:21 And I ended up connecting with the world expert on Camp X who verified that, yes, we believe Underwood was involved.

00:04:28 And I then spent a connected 20 years in the Camp X legacy.

00:04:31 And when the classified community, let's just say it's a, you know, sometimes a horrible blanket term,

00:04:36 But the sensitive communities, as I was doing research, found out that I had a lot of the original stuff, let's say, from the tradecraft from the Camp X era.

00:04:45 I started to get asked, listen, would you show our intelligence agents today what we were doing at Camp X?

00:04:50 Will you show our soldiers?

00:04:51 Show our soldiers.

00:04:52 So they wanted you to go back to this legacy.

00:04:56 Yeah, it was so mysterious for them.

00:04:58 That's correct.

00:04:58 On Bill Underwood.

00:04:59 The whole Bill Underwood and Camp X legacy was so mysterious.

00:05:03 And so our modern agencies, you know, really didn't have any idea about they knew what was there, but didn't know what was going on, even up to the levels of our Joint Task Force 2 or JTF2, our SEAL Team 6.

00:05:13 They knew about CAMPEX, but didn't really know what was going on there.

00:05:17 And there's reasons I was hinting at it in an earlier discussion.

00:05:19 There's a reason we know why now I very much believe why.

00:05:23 And I've released this in this book, but we know why now they've kept that legacy suppressed.

00:05:28 But I was originally asked, starting back in the early 2000s, to say, listen, we'd love to see some of this, what was going on.

00:05:34 And so times change, though.

00:05:36 And in essence, as they asked me to problem-solve and giving them ways to fight with their hands, okay, that were really more applicable to special operations.

00:05:44 And not the ring for MMA, not sports.

00:05:47 Right.

00:05:47 This is a scenario where you're up close.

00:05:50 Absolutely.

00:05:50 Up close and personal.

00:05:51 There's been a change of temperature with your contact.

00:05:54 So show us what they were doing then.

00:05:56 Yeah.

00:05:56 you can't really fit that the old model over today's uh over today's environment so they said

00:06:02 listen robbie can you develop something and that was was for me which was birthed in the early 2000s

00:06:07 was i went about trying to develop a method that really taking taking the mindset and the the point

00:06:13 and purpose of what was going on at camp x and how to develop an application for it in a modern

00:06:18 environment and in essence i can wrap it up with one thing the difference between your standard

00:06:22 martial arts sports mixed martial arts kind of platform than what our guys and girls need today

00:06:27 at a special ops level a black ops level is this the world war ii context was essentially they had

00:06:33 to take a civilian it was a civilian okay okay let's say for example to train them as a spy

00:06:38 maybe they needed a forensic accountant to be dropped into an automotive factory in france

00:06:43 sneak him in there and he'll report back on what the nazis were we're doing with this factory now

00:06:47 Well, how do you take an accountant who, a horrible overstatement, or rather blanket statement, but who's got tape between his glasses and a calculator in his pocket all his life?

00:06:57 He's never fought.

00:06:58 How do you take an accountant, Mike, teach him how to be able to defend himself and win a bar fight?

00:07:02 And by the way, you've got hours to do it.

00:07:04 Welcome to Camp X.

00:07:05 And so I took that mindset of short duration, high retention training, developed a whole new method based on much more modern physiology.

00:07:12 And for 20 years, I've been out running around our allied special ops communities

00:07:16 within tier one special forces, within government intelligence agencies

00:07:20 and policing special operations units and teaching this new method.

00:07:25 Wow. Okay, let's go back to the original method.

00:07:28 And Bill Underwood's first, sorry, Underwood, did I say that right?

00:07:32 Bill Underwood, yeah.

00:07:33 Bill Underwood.

00:07:33 Let's go back to his original training and teachings,

00:07:38 which fascinated you so much in the first place.

00:07:40 Combato?

00:07:41 Combato.

00:07:41 that's correct combattle yeah so tell me about this what what made this unique at a time in world

00:07:47 war ii where spies needed to be trained was it the fast the ability to train them fast was it the

00:07:53 like what how was this born to be his thing well in essence i mean underwood's story is absolutely

00:08:00 a fascinating one i mean a childhood friend of harry houdini buffalo bill coady charlie chaplin

00:08:06 i mean again that's why i wrote a book on it it's insane the history is absolutely incredible

00:08:10 But in essence, Underwood was a part of a day,

00:08:13 and he was a leading, you know,

00:08:14 let's say on the leading edge of it in many ways.

00:08:17 He was really the first grandfather in North America.

00:08:20 He really gave the Americans much of their start

00:08:22 at the beginning of in-arm fighting

00:08:24 at the beginning of the war. 0.98

00:08:25 But it was an era when the East

00:08:26 was truly meeting the West for the first time.

00:08:28 So you had these judokas, jiu-jitsu, you know, masters

00:08:32 that were coming for the first time to British shores

00:08:35 or European shores, and they were kind of clashing.

00:08:37 and really in a very I guess really it's a very practical story in a way they really needed to

00:08:44 yes come up with an ability to give guys and it was really more the boys back then and then the

00:08:50 ladies in a lot of ways but give them a short duration high retention skill set you can't train

00:08:55 sports and even MMA type skills you can't learn that in a short time you can't learn how to 1.00

00:09:00 punch and kick in a short period of time you would assume yeah yeah you can't and I can tell

00:09:04 that that's what i do for a living and for a long time and internationally at that but that being

00:09:08 said essentially what underwood and some of the guys of his time were developing was a much more

00:09:13 linear direct and aggressive approach to jujitsu and judo so it was more biomechanical in nature

00:09:19 still uh by way of biomechanics but it was more direct it was linear and to the point

00:09:24 okay and so it could be learned and that's why sometimes it was called dirty judo okay

00:09:29 it came down to that but all right underwood really made it western and whereas in the east

00:09:33 they would turn it into much more of a philosophy and a way of life, what we call warrior culture.

00:09:38 Boys back in Underwood's day would just call it a trick. Hey, let me show you a trick. If somebody

00:09:42 grabs you here, let me show you how to contend with that. And that's a trick to deal with that.

00:09:46 So it kept it simple and linear. But what Underwood did was he even went further and was still trying

00:09:51 to figure out how he did it and what he did. But he developed a system of unarmed fighting. And this

00:09:58 is not you know i know what i'm talking about i've been tested under very high level physiology

00:10:03 experts uh to substantiate this is true he developed a system that was so unorthodox and

00:10:09 outside the box that it literally could an individual could break the spine and the neck

00:10:14 even with one hand okay and uh and again these principles where abs have absolutely even recently

00:10:21 been vetted by physiological experts that aggressive direct nerve flow termination which

00:10:27 what we really call it not breaking necks okay okay is possible uh within very precise technique

00:10:33 okay and underwood basically was training some of the most elite assassins for sir william stevenson

00:10:39 who was basically sir william stevenson the canadian was the real james bond i mean a whole

00:10:43 nother topic but and so he did so for the real james bond and trained some of the most elite

00:10:47 assassins to exist so much so that in 1960 the cia 20 years after the war brother the cia came

00:10:55 to the brits saying listen we're we're wanting to learn in 60 we're wanting to learn assassination

00:11:00 tradecraft and tactics we don't have it so cia didn't have it in the 60s and they went to the

00:11:06 brits and said listen where can we learn this and they said let's we'll get back to you they said

00:11:10 you need we went to the old boys network you need to talk to sir william stevenson you know the real

00:11:14 james bond but at a rockefeller center during world war ii he was running all that stuff and

00:11:19 And his link back was, look, there's the system.

00:11:23 Underwood has it.

00:11:24 Yeah, and Underwood worked directly with Stevenson during World War II.

00:11:27 So indirectly, but fairly directly,

00:11:30 this system made its way into standard practice in the CIA.

00:11:34 I wouldn't say there's connectivity, yes.

00:11:37 What I would say is, but again, times and things change.

00:11:40 We're influenced by culture.

00:11:41 There's a whole other discussion.

00:11:42 I get lectures on that stuff.

00:11:44 But the fact of the matter is, is that without a doubt,

00:11:46 The history of what I have developed has come from most definitely the birthing grounds of CIA, absolutely, no question about it, fall of 1947, okay, September of 47.

00:11:59 Every iteration precursor of CIA was trained to CAMPEX.

00:12:02 COI, okay, beginning in 1942, they became the OSS in the summer of 42, which was the wartime iteration of CIA, if we want to call it that.

00:12:11 And then September of 47, the agency was born after the war.

00:12:14 The first two and most influential, the two most influential directors of the CIA, Dulles, Colby, and Casey, the most foundational three were Camp X instructors.

00:12:25 Okay, let's talk about Camp X then.

00:12:27 Okay, so now Camp X is in a remote location, far removed from society.

00:12:35 At the time.

00:12:36 I guess it would have been actually.

00:12:37 But in modern day terms, really it's not that far away from where we are right now.

00:12:43 No, no, it's not.

00:12:44 No, in essence, Sir William Stevenson was commissioned by Churchill

00:12:48 to develop the most highly classified tourney facility

00:12:51 for spies, secret agents, and saboteurs in the world.

00:12:54 And it was built in Oshawa, on the borderline between Oshawa, okay, and Whitby.

00:12:59 And essentially, if you were to take, you know,

00:13:02 if you were to turn off Highway 2, okay,

00:13:06 right at the beginning on that line, okay,

00:13:08 it's right down on the lakeshore.

00:13:10 That is where Camp X was.

00:13:12 it's all industrial parkway now i was going to say i looked at the map and you can tell it it looks

00:13:17 like at one end of it that strip there was actually at one point maybe a landing strip oh there was

00:13:23 okay so you can still see that on the map where there's where the industrial layout is there are

00:13:28 some things left okay original buildings are all gone because industrial parkways gobbled that all

00:13:33 up and so forth and i would argue that from what we know of history now that was all purposeful to

00:13:37 kind of change it forget about it not reference it okay but the reality is yes my friend that was

00:13:43 the whole reason why they placed the camp there was because the topography over you know uh of

00:13:49 the acreage that it had about 275 276 acres during wartime it had every form of different

00:13:56 topography you can imagine oh in that area and that area it had field rivers streams okay and

00:14:01 stuff applicable bluffs exactly and it was far not far from oshawa airport it was not far from base

00:14:07 borden it was not far from toronto for training grounds and all that stuff so there was a good

00:14:11 10 to 12 reasons why camp x is placed exactly where it was and one of the main ones being

00:14:16 it wasn't on american shores because america wasn't in the war until pearl harbor at the end

00:14:21 of 41 right and so the americans couldn't be involved okay but all they had to do was jump

00:14:26 on a boat cross lake ontario and they're in spy land and and by the way at the time crossing lake

00:14:31 ontario wouldn't have been a problem not at night and they only ever did it over a very short time

00:14:37 because camp x literally opened for operational functioning the day before pearl harbor the next

00:14:42 day pearl harbor happened and uh so they were in the war and they're just at it you know what i

00:14:46 mean but right but the point is there's i could go into a whole treatment on why camp x was placed

00:14:51 where it was but the real james bond sir william stevenson who who brought that you know put that

00:14:56 place together he bought it with his own money bought it with his own cash he was a rich multi

00:15:00 multi-millionaire. That's the reason why Steve was a World War I spy, Canadian, but World War I

00:15:05 Churchill kept in touch with him, okay, and during between the wars, Stevens' story is incredible.

00:15:10 But the fact is, is that, yeah, it was born right here, the very birthplace of Central Intelligence

00:15:15 Agency, and they confess to that now. They absolutely confess their beginnings were Canadian,

00:15:19 okay, and the entire James Bond legacy is Canadian. Ian Fleming was at CapEx during World War II. He

00:15:26 was here i can tell you why and when and the fact is my friend he actually he wasn't there for it

00:15:31 but he was put on a spy course and according to tommy drewbrook who was they had a bsc in canada

00:15:35 under stevenson said that fleming was put on his spy course and actually failed to spy course

00:15:41 oh well i mean he was a good writer yeah exactly but it's funny because you look at me and you're

00:15:46 a media guy so you know yeah but you look at media today in a lot of ways i would argue they make out

00:15:50 the they make out fleming to be a little bigger than his britches back in the day i do think yeah

00:15:55 Yeah, I do think that that's true.

00:15:56 Just because of the bond connection.

00:15:57 Which is fine.

00:15:58 It's okay.

00:15:59 And I think now, you know, this is credibility.

00:16:02 I think he probably wished he had at the time to be able to say, you know,

00:16:05 this is inspired by the guy who started this.

00:16:08 Not by me, but by the guy who started this.

00:16:11 And you can see that.

00:16:12 As you mentioned this, now I hear the bondisms.

00:16:14 Yeah.

00:16:15 Independently wealthy.

00:16:16 Oh.

00:16:16 So, you know, the style, the fashion.

00:16:18 I can give you a snapshot on that.

00:16:20 When Ian Fleming was part of 30 AU, 30 Assault Unit, which was a British Naval Intelligence Unit,

00:16:25 I would argue precursor to Z Squadron for the Special Boat Service today.

00:16:29 That's my pick on that.

00:16:31 But the fact is, is that he came over here to learn some certain tradecraft that was being taught

00:16:35 in an amphibious role from Camp X into Lake Ontario.

00:16:39 Saw what was going on, thought this is really cool.

00:16:41 Asked to go down to the headquarters of Camp X, which was at the Rockefeller Center in New York,

00:16:47 okay, on the 35th and 36th floor.

00:16:49 This is what Fleming walked into.

00:16:51 Fleming comes with a super secret lair

00:16:52 with this international spy walking around 1.00

00:16:54 these beautiful girls all over the place. 1.00

00:16:56 Wow, these gorgeous women. 1.00

00:16:57 And drinking martinis all day long. 1.00

00:17:00 Wow.

00:17:00 I think we've heard the narrative. 0.72

00:17:01 That's completely accurate.

00:17:03 And by the way, the Bond girls were all Canadian.

00:17:06 They hired girls from Canada and the Toronto area,

00:17:09 okay, through newspaper adverts

00:17:11 from the BSC office on King Street.

00:17:14 And they brought them down because, again,

00:17:16 the U.S. couldn't be involved in the war.

00:17:18 So the original Bond girl is a Canadian.

00:17:20 Stevenson himself was Canadian.

00:17:22 And Fleming confessed to that.

00:17:23 Thomas Troy, longest-standing staff historian of CIA, yes.

00:17:27 Bond was freaking, without a doubt, the quiet Canadian Sir William Stevenson.

00:17:31 There's no doubt there.

00:17:32 But how many Canadians know this, man?

00:17:34 How many Canadians know that even if Canadians of Bond are all Canadians?

00:17:38 Before you and I met, by the way, this is not the first time,

00:17:41 and I mentioned this to you when we talked,

00:17:43 Camp X is, in the media world, quite a little bit of scuttlebutt.

00:17:47 But there's always been, as long as I can remember, over the last 15 years or so, there's little glimpses of, did you hear about this?

00:17:56 But when you mentioned to me the James Bond element to it, I was like, well, I mean, I don't know how every Canadian doesn't get right on this.

00:18:03 At Camp X, okay, so what would we have found at Camp X?

00:18:08 What would the actual facility have been like?

00:18:12 276 acres, essentially.

00:18:14 at the time, if you went to Thornton Road, which is now a road that doesn't even really exit from

00:18:20 Highway 2 anymore, the Kings Highway, it's blocked off by rail now. But if you went hooked to right,

00:18:26 going south on Thornton Road, you go down towards the lake and near the bottom, you take another

00:18:31 right onto Sinclair Farmstead Road. And up that road, okay, was essentially 13 buildings and an

00:18:36 old farmhouse, which by the way, is the same model of farmhouse that is still on the property today

00:18:42 with JTF-2 at their compound there.

00:18:44 It's just an interesting thing. 0.96

00:18:46 Interesting, yeah.

00:18:46 Interesting thing.

00:18:47 Just something from the time and the era.

00:18:49 But the point is that essentially 13 buildings.

00:18:53 There are rumors and lore.

00:18:55 There's a lot of underground tunnels there,

00:18:57 but that the buildings were all connected underground.

00:18:59 Absolutely not.

00:19:00 The buildings were not,

00:19:01 there was nobody there to watch anything.

00:19:02 They weren't, it was remote at the time.

00:19:04 You know, Scarborough was, you know,

00:19:06 back in World War II, Scarborough was the bush, man.

00:19:08 Let alone Oshawa, Pickering, Oshawa.

00:19:10 And in the North American perspective,

00:19:12 from an American perspective where Rockefeller is the,

00:19:16 or, you know, Washington, D.C.

00:19:19 is the center of the universe at that time,

00:19:22 Canada was the great wild north.

00:19:24 It was, yeah.

00:19:25 And you didn't have to go far across the border,

00:19:27 as you point out, to be in that scenario.

00:19:30 No, no.

00:19:30 And so many things we can spiderweb on, right?

00:19:34 Trying to be disciplined.

00:19:35 But the fact is, and the relationship was awesome back then

00:19:39 between the United States and Canada in so many ways,

00:19:41 and the patriots that existed within our own Canadian government

00:19:45 to keep, I'll start it today off politics,

00:19:48 but to keep what really needed to be done

00:19:50 from a Liberal Prime Minister at the time.

00:19:52 Mackenzie King would have shut down Camp X and R&B.

00:19:55 Much he would have done that.

00:19:57 And so that was all kept by Commissioner,

00:19:59 everything from George McClellan, head of RCMP,

00:20:02 General Constantine of the Canadian Forces,

00:20:04 and our Director of Ministry of War at the time,

00:20:11 if you will at the time they all work to keep these this functioning a secret and believe it

00:20:16 or not one a very key role was played by lester b pearson during this time he was canada's foreign

00:20:22 he was canada's top diplomat yeah and he actually uh it is alleged played some roles and it all

00:20:28 makes sense truly uh played some roles at assisting in the transfer of information and

00:20:33 certainly working and massaging the british american canadian relationship outside of the

00:20:38 PMO, the prime minister's office to make this happen. And, you know, I've been asked all the

00:20:42 time by even our current, our current boys and girls in our intelligence and special ops

00:20:47 communities, as I lectured to them and teach them. And I teach still and physically in that realm.

00:20:52 But when I am asked to lecture, they're like, how can we apply CAMPEX today? And my opinion is if

00:20:56 you want to understand the story of CAMPEX, you have to understand simply this in a sentence.

00:21:00 The reality is in a time when there were no constitutional solutions to the problem,

00:21:04 Good men and women stood up and did at risk what was necessary to bring about the solution.

00:21:10 And that's what happened at Campbex.

00:21:12 Here's a sideline question as we spider out, and I can't be disciplined like you.

00:21:17 Do you think that's lost from our relationships with the U.S.?

00:21:22 Do you think that that vibe of proceeding, even at the risk of offending the PMO's office or keeping it secret,

00:21:33 is there is that still a modern day possibility

00:21:37 man that's a good question and i sure as heck have a detailed answer but got to be careful

00:21:44 what i say of course as anybody does well right not anybody robbie in all fairness i can say

00:21:50 anything i want about national security and nobody's taking it seriously but i i would say

00:21:55 simply this a lesson i learned being in the ukraine i was over in the ukraine uh the sas

00:22:02 And this is my connections with the Special Air Service, Special Boat Service and British Intelligence and others have been published.

00:22:09 So I'll comment slightly on it.

00:22:11 But I was brought over, had the privilege of being over with SAS in the Ukraine as part of a training mission there and such.

00:22:17 And seeing boots on ground there and working with Ukrainian special ops guys and understanding from their perspective the truths and reality of what's happening, what the politics are going on.

00:22:28 probably to me one of the most interesting fundamental statements was once i got in the

00:22:31 trust tree with some of the boys i had a comment made to me one time saying you know something we

00:22:37 really know there's something wrong in the west when the west everywhere is making you know

00:22:42 zelinski the president uh look like a combination of luke skywalker captain kirk and the second

00:22:48 coming of christ right when we all know he is the most corrupt politician in our modern history

00:22:53 so i use that to simply say this the reality is is there are multiple levels of reality okay that

00:23:02 seem to be going on there's and it's hard to really know unless you excuse me have boots on

00:23:06 ground that are there that you can get information from yeah but the narrative that we are being are

00:23:11 being told or being spun of this constant boom boom boom boom boom boom there's more to the

00:23:16 story than that and i would say if there's one truth and this is what i'll say and i'll leave

00:23:20 it at this there i do very firmly believe see evidence of myself and have been definitely told

00:23:25 there has been a war going on for decades inside our western governments of black hats and white

00:23:30 hats there's been good guys and there's been bad guys our western governments have absolutely been

00:23:35 infiltrated they have been infiltrated by globalist entities okay and there has been a war for decades

00:23:42 arguably since 9-11 of good guys and girls that are nationalist and trying to keep our identities

00:23:48 and our nation's control and power versus a globalist influenced and i would say that that

00:23:54 that war exists in every country and it exists here and i would say that that do you know the

00:24:00 narrative that we're spun by just simply seeing from ottawa bickering to you know the u.s and

00:24:06 what's going on is absolutely not excuse me an accurate depiction okay of what we're really

00:24:11 dealing it does seem like that's the case you don't really have to put a tinfoil hat on to

00:24:15 start to make some of these connections i think now what do you think okay sorry now i'm spinning

00:24:19 us off robbie you stop me anytime okay what do you think some of the indicators are that the

00:24:25 globe like there is this battle between white and black and dark and uh you know evil and good

00:24:33 what where do we see this most often which by the way in answer to my original question i already

00:24:40 hear the answer which is it's not a possibility when you've been infiltrated to be able to

00:24:45 actually execute these kinds of things not with with a patriotic freedom not with complete freedom

00:24:51 hence why there's a war all right where there's a war going on and i would simply say this i would

00:24:57 simply say that when we didn't this is my opinion and i'll i'll stand by my opinion on and off the

00:25:02 mat and in the parking lot but the fact of the matter is is that this is a reason why a lot of

00:25:08 folks would look at the at the trump administration and say oh what they're doing doesn't make sense

00:25:12 what they're doing doesn't then this and then this doesn't make sense what they fail to recognize

00:25:15 and i've seen this in an international from an international perspective what we're dealing with

00:25:20 here right now is we're dealing with basically a house a global house if you want to look at it

00:25:24 that way that has been infested in through its very beams with termites we're dealing with

00:25:29 microsurgery in some cases so there's a lot of 10d chess games that are being played to be able

00:25:36 to extract evil and yet not have the whole house of cards fall down and sometimes you've got to

00:25:42 take wins and losses give away a little bit or do some things massive psychological operations

00:25:47 games i've had a career uh understanding and learning and understanding psyops okay in

00:25:52 psychological operations you ever want to talk about that stuff you know i certainly can can

00:25:56 share the applications of special operations type psyops to what we see in the general public and

00:26:01 there's a lot of people that are talking about that but the fact is is that there's a reason

00:26:05 why things don't aren't linear is because or don't seem to be linear and directly connected

00:26:09 uh is because they don't understand the complexities of what they're contending with

00:26:13 because below that there's a termite in this leg over here and i've got to get under to get that

00:26:18 and by the way the termite to termite detects that the whole thing comes down and in order for

00:26:22 me to get that i've got to get because i don't rule everything right now i've got to get permission

00:26:26 from that entity to be released to be able to get that and darn it all the heck if they say no

00:26:31 we've got to stop now so sometimes it's it's it's dealing a bit of cards to try to get but it's an

00:26:37 overall push it's an overall war to get that done and this is where again i guess from this

00:26:41 perspective i'm adamant and and uh i have a little lesser patience as i'm getting getting older

00:26:46 where people ah it's conspiracy that's you know dude i've lived in this these communities for 20

00:26:51 years internationally okay i know what i'm talking about and this stuff is absolutely real and i would

00:26:57 say that if you think as a you know i i was really kind of educated in one sense i should say i got a

00:27:02 nice slap in the face one time when someone spewed out to me the idea of yeah well we have a right to

00:27:07 know everything you know what no you don't no you no you don't because you don't know what to do

00:27:12 with classified information the general public proves all the time that when there's i do believe

00:27:17 in sensitive communities and classified information and information that needs to be controlled as long

00:27:21 as there's good people at the top and that's what we're battling for because people have proven they

00:27:25 don't know what to do with good information and and they're going to jeopardize lives right away

00:27:29 they start beaking their their mouths off about stuff and that puts people and people operators

00:27:33 and operations in jeopardy and in little in entire missions and so so the point is yes there's trust

00:27:39 there but i would say simply that a lot of the confusion is because we're dealing with a lot of

00:27:44 microsurgery a lot of game playing but i believe the good guys are winning that war exists here

00:27:49 it it is here my friend it does exist here i'm not a super fan of what's going on in ottawa i'm

00:27:55 I'm an absolute nationalist patriot, always have been.

00:27:58 It's why I got into this, to preserve our fighting legacy in Underwood,

00:28:02 our history in Camp X.

00:28:03 But I would say don't lose hope.

00:28:05 We've got some good men and women out there that are fighting.

00:28:07 I love the patriotism in this.

00:28:09 By the way, the book again, Camp X, Ghost War.

00:28:12 You'll find it under Cressman, and I'll make sure the links are there.

00:28:15 But what I think I like the most, and I told you earlier before we did this,

00:28:20 I made an observation when I was doing my research for this,

00:28:24 And one of them was, I'm fascinated, and in a few minutes,

00:28:26 we're going to go down the, we're going to take on a little tour of Camp X

00:28:29 in our minds.

00:28:30 But what I noticed, and I love this,

00:28:33 is that there is a patriotic effort going on in each of these books.

00:28:36 One of them, to preserve where our history in combat

00:28:40 and hand-to-hand combat comes from.

00:28:42 Another one, where it happened.

00:28:44 And then this one, I think, where you update it,

00:28:47 the program that you take to the allied nations

00:28:50 is a real tribute to both of these.

00:28:54 to update it, to say, okay, look, here's what we had,

00:28:57 here's what I teach now, it's based in this,

00:28:59 is a very patriotic thing.

00:29:01 My observation was this.

00:29:04 Rob, in all of this, is way down the ladder in your priorities,

00:29:10 which is very interesting.

00:29:12 Your priorities include teaching, instructing, informing, sharing.

00:29:20 Not what you expect from the guy who's training spies

00:29:22 to pull the spine out of your back.

00:29:24 but that's that's got to be sort of an in that's an interesting uh i would imagine emotional

00:29:30 dichotomy to kind of sit with look i'm going to share all of this by the way i'm also going to

00:29:36 teach these people over here if they need to kill somebody sure you know it's to me i just found

00:29:41 that you're you had zero ego in all of this the information the teaching and the application is

00:29:48 more important to you well i i appreciate that um uh i i think i can give you a a pretty direct

00:29:56 answer as to kind of my mindset over the whole experience of what i've been through has been

00:30:01 simply i think a couple of things a couple um some people feel the weight of history mike and

00:30:08 some don't you know some people will look at something historical and even an artifact or

00:30:12 something and it's like my gosh man it just has such weight that thing was there when if it could

00:30:16 tell stories and i feel like our grandfathers and some are watching right now others you know

00:30:20 others don't they just don't feel that weight of history i have always extremely felt the weight

00:30:25 of history and in in my life and felt that especially the legacies of the phenomenal

00:30:30 canadian legacies that we have i got kind of tired growing up watching blockbuster movies

00:30:34 uh you know and seeing really no canadian representation i got tired of as a kid i really

00:30:40 you know seeing superheroes none of them canadian oh yeah but wolverine you know was canadian yeah

00:30:45 but that's just a footnote dude there's nothing really about wolverine that particular you know

00:30:50 character that's that's really canadian and i tried even at the age of eight years old man i

00:30:54 tried to give it a good college go to get into captain canuck you know stan richard comley's

00:30:59 well done well i tried to give her a go and you know i just couldn't get into it i met with stan

00:31:03 years later i had a talk with him saying why why didn't he learn combato why didn't he was canadian

00:31:07 why wasn't he at camp that's a great point yeah and he's and he was great guy i really

00:31:11 He probably was like, where were you?

00:31:13 I didn't know this.

00:31:13 He was like, why weren't you here, you know?

00:31:15 So, but from all of those things,

00:31:17 so most certainly the weight of those things

00:31:20 has been very, very important to me.

00:31:21 I'm also a born again Christian, okay?

00:31:23 And without a doubt, I love Jesus Christ with all my heart.

00:31:26 And I do believe that there has always been

00:31:28 a spiritual call on Canada.

00:31:30 There's prophetic words on this nation

00:31:32 that have been given, okay?

00:31:33 And I believe that there is spiritual purpose

00:31:35 even in this end times, I believe that we live in to that.

00:31:38 I'll just leave that there.

00:31:39 so there and that to me is guides my life more than i i hope my personal ego uh i just feel

00:31:46 super blessed that as i write in the discreet fighting book for me a day i felt i finished a

00:31:51 i crossed a finish line if you will um i had i was a big fan of the british sas from the very

00:31:58 first engagement they had known the princess gates uh you know in 1980 counterterrorism deal

00:32:03 and i remember as a kid reading a newspaper article on it in 82 let's say a couple years

00:32:08 later i had the flaming dagger on my public school door and i remember like i was just passionate

00:32:12 about it and so forth and i always wanted to do you know to train and such the day that i walked

00:32:17 through hereford gates as an instructor to the regiment okay and then the day that i was leaving

00:32:23 camp and this is in the book so i'll say it but one of my instructors say robbie you walked out

00:32:27 to talk with some of the boys and i was talking with some of the brass and they were talking about

00:32:32 your contributions and they were putting you in the same conversations with bill underwood with

00:32:37 with william fairman dude i was fighting tears i mean that i i'd accomplished to to be a part of a

00:32:43 solution to be part of a team to help to train you know it's not about any individual it's about

00:32:48 being a part being recognized as part of the fight as as a level of elite people to to train

00:32:55 our men and women up to defend our freedom to defend our nation that to me has meant more than

00:32:59 than anything than some fight of who's the goat and whatever you know what i mean kind of a thing

00:33:04 right and so so my heart is really tied up in those things uh probably have never said this

00:33:08 in a podcast i appreciate you thank you uh camp x yeah okay so what are some of the cool things

00:33:14 that would be taught as a spy there well camp x the the great the really cool thing about camp x

00:33:20 is again i'm very careful to qualify as much as i can anything i say right off the top camp x what

00:33:25 was so special about it it was a super spy school so any of the soe schools that existed it was a

00:33:31 Special Operations Executive School, all the schools in the UK that existed, okay, they might

00:33:36 have taught anywhere from two, three to five courses. Camp X was a super school, man. There

00:33:41 was 52 courses that were taught, okay? And when they were standing up the American capability

00:33:47 beginning in the summer of 42, they took the Camp X courses, they took even the instructors and

00:33:53 started sending them to the states to rebuild and to start to build rather than to teach the

00:33:57 american capability so they were you know they were teaching all kinds of let's say secret agent

00:34:01 tradecraft that you know one would need everything from survival skills i mean everything you know

00:34:06 the the macgyver thing we grew up with right you know how do we take a freaking you know a match

00:34:11 stick and a stick of gum and blow up an apartment building you know kind of a thing right so a slight

00:34:15 exaggeration by the way i did a little thing with uh richard dean uh anderson did you really and uh

00:34:20 he told me he told me he couldn't get a lighter to work yeah yeah there you go yeah macgyver was

00:34:25 yeah there you go but survival tradecraft you know from the tradecraft that is used to again

00:34:31 disrupt most of the times agents were disruptors they would blow up railway tracks they would do

00:34:36 all these things okay they had to learn survival tradecraft they had to you to learn how to know

00:34:40 they defend themselves obviously potentially to kill some targets if they needed to but i would

00:34:46 argue what needs to be understand understood is that assassins weren't trained specifically with

00:34:50 assassination tradecraft at camp becks uh and nor or standard agents done that there are special

00:34:57 boys and girls for that got their full dedication that was under bsc that's when underwood trained

00:35:02 under stevenson and so forth and but every type of infill x fill type of skill and tradecraft um

00:35:09 you know we're certainly talking to psychological operations how to read the body how to be able to

00:35:13 read a conversation how to you know and so everything really we see in modern movies

00:35:17 that, you know, the spy tradecraft, it was started there.

00:35:20 I mean, the whole, you know, a shoe cell phone

00:35:25 that existed in Maxwell Smart in the 60s,

00:35:27 guess where that started?

00:35:28 Station M at Camp X.

00:35:30 What was it, like a radio?

00:35:31 Well, they didn't actually have, like, cell shoe phones,

00:35:34 but they had special gadgets that they would use.

00:35:36 Gadgets.

00:35:37 They had special gadgets.

00:35:37 I love gadgets.

00:35:38 Yeah, so the Cold War stuff,

00:35:39 and we got a lot of that with Maxwell Smart.

00:35:41 Dude, that started at Station M in Canada.

00:35:43 Okay, for example, with MI6, you know,

00:35:46 when we think of queue section when they're developing those things station m did that in

00:35:50 canada which was under casa loma it was in the basement of casa loma as far as where that was

00:35:54 done so they had all kinds of cool you know trade craft and things that had to be learned to be

00:35:59 trained in a short period of time try to get as much into them as possible and get them out the

00:36:03 door and that's uh you know so there was lecture halls there for sure there was uh all kinds of

00:36:08 supportive you know workshops and uh things to make and develop devices and all those kinds of

00:36:14 things a big thing with camp x was hydra we had and this would be a beef that i'm airing it just

00:36:19 comes out of me but you know we have a we have and it was a good movie you know imitation game

00:36:23 2014 benedict cumberbatch okay great movie that talked about the the plight of a british

00:36:29 intelligence at a bletchley park to crack the german enigma code and they did do it and alan

00:36:33 turing his machine etc well buddy why is it that no one talks about the fact that they do a

00:36:39 blockbuster movie on that canada had a a secret coding machine that was twice the capability of

00:36:47 what the germans or anybody had called rock x developed by canadian pat bailey at camp x just

00:36:52 over in oshawa was never cracked we don't hear anything about wow twice the capability and was

00:36:58 never why don't we hear about it do you think well i i believe there's a a couple of practical

00:37:03 reasons and one very specific reason one being that the personality of canadians for many many

00:37:09 years of course has been a little brother to the u.s we we're we don't generally tout our own i

00:37:14 think it's a fault with us i think we should be more vocal about our accomplishments we certainly

00:37:18 feel bitter that we're not more vocal about it like we often are like you know i mean look at

00:37:23 the arrow look at you know there's all kinds of programs there's a couple there are a couple of

00:37:26 right 100 but it's in the character it has been in the character of canadians to not really boast

00:37:32 so much and when you're beside the big bad american winning machine next door especially

00:37:36 with the hollywood media what's going to get the you know and i will say without naming it per se

00:37:41 there was a fairly sizable documentary done on camp x from a well-known american entity

00:37:48 and when we looked at the uh and they came up here filmed and my mentor was a part of it i was

00:37:53 there for some of it but the point is is that in the end the output of it was you would swear that

00:37:59 it was on canadian soil but canada had nothing to do with it they made it about american and

00:38:02 British contributions. And we complained about it to find out. They said, yeah, but the only reason

00:38:07 we got the contract was because the output had to go to DVD to be sold. Right. And no one's going

00:38:11 to buy a DVD about Canadians. Yeah. I'm sorry, but I've been in the business a long time. Well,

00:38:15 you would know, right. You would know. Canada is not a headliner. Right. We are not headliners.

00:38:20 That's that is 100 percent. And so we are the quiet professionals. And what I would say is,

00:38:25 is that and I released this in this book, I do believe there's a very poignant or pointed reason

00:38:31 why even our modern communities don't understand as much about Camp X,

00:38:36 which is something that my mentor, Lynn Phillip Hodgson, asked me.

00:38:41 I said, listen, you need to start to educate on this when I'm gone,

00:38:44 after I've passed, because it was dangerous for him at the time.

00:38:48 But one of the reasons why Camp X in Canada has always been super, super quiet

00:38:51 is that we had confession directly from CIA and from former RCMP intelligence

00:38:57 that there was a connection between Camp X and the Kennedy assassination.

00:39:00 during the Cold War in 1963.

00:39:03 What was that connection?

00:39:04 The connection was alleged to be sure,

00:39:06 but with more circumstantial evidence behind it.

00:39:09 I'm firmly convinced that the evidence is true.

00:39:12 Is that actually Lee Oswald was at Camp X for a week

00:39:17 from November 15th to November 20th, okay?

00:39:22 At Camp X for a week in the underground installations

00:39:26 that they had there undergoing MKUltra,

00:39:29 trauma-based mind control, okay?

00:39:30 and psychic driving and you know the mk ultra type you know programming type mental uh programs that

00:39:37 have been had so they would have been programming him yeah as a patsy and he was a patsy and they

00:39:42 were programming him and he left the camp only 24 hours before the shots were fired in dallas and

00:39:48 uh you know so they really they in your opinion yeah they put this out there they put this guy

00:39:55 out there fresh out of camp backs twisted and ready to use it well listen the the more probably

00:40:03 more of a an articulate way to put it is mk ultra or trauma-based mind control was open source and

00:40:09 being used even against civilians in the open media was known at a mcgill university you know

00:40:15 in cameron dr cameron at a mcgill university it was there were black and white documentaries in

00:40:20 the 70s about how they were doing this stuff and traumatizing civilians that's known well the

00:40:25 reality is camp x would have been a small substation to use off american territory to prep him as a

00:40:31 patsy to then drop him in which is the same mode of operation okay with sirhan sirhan and bobby

00:40:37 kennedy's assassination in 68 at the ambassador hotel same byproducts same situation same

00:40:43 programming exactly dropped in to the job well be a part of the job to be to blame would they know

00:40:49 do you think that they would know that they were going to be the patsies or would they have been

00:40:52 pumped with a different assignment that they thought they were i would doubt that they would

00:40:56 let them know that that would be the case i i would doubt that personally uh but i would simply say

00:41:02 that camp x was absolutely old homework old home week for the cia george white was the head of the

00:41:09 mk alta program he was a graduate from camp x okay alan dulles the head of cia during that period

00:41:16 was from Camp X.

00:41:17 Okay, J. Edgar Hoover,

00:41:18 who was alleged to

00:41:19 was the one that escorted,

00:41:21 okay, escorted him to the camp,

00:41:25 Oswald to the camp.

00:41:26 He was an old Camp X alumni.

00:41:28 You know, that was a...

00:41:28 If we had the time,

00:41:29 I could fill you in

00:41:30 in so much more history.

00:41:31 But so the point of the matter is,

00:41:33 and I will always say this,

00:41:35 my point and purpose

00:41:36 for addressing or bringing up

00:41:38 is just in answering a question.

00:41:40 I am not...

00:41:40 I've had some people say,

00:41:41 Robbie, oh my gosh,

00:41:42 are you sure you're safe

00:41:43 in mentioning this?

00:41:43 I was going to ask you that.

00:41:45 Yes, I do believe I am, because the point of the matter is, there's been, listen, there's been more books written on the Kennedy assassination than any other, you know, topic other than the Bible in Western culture, you know, and the reality is there's been far bigger fish to fry since then.

00:41:59 I am, I have never pursued nor remotely interested.

00:42:02 Robbie, you should keep, no, I'm done.

00:42:04 I have, I took what I was, learned and experienced from a mentor.

00:42:07 People want to know about true Camp X history.

00:42:09 I believe there was a connection, okay, between those two.

00:42:12 and it explains why we don't know much about modern history that's it i've gotten nothing

00:42:17 else to say you know that's the history that's what we believe i have no interest whatsoever

00:42:21 in pursuing it trying to you know we're not trying to offer photographs and testimony to try to no

00:42:25 whatever you know that's not as frankly i don't find kennedy all that interesting anymore it's

00:42:30 almost uh it's almost it's a bit of a bookend it's a bit of a book i understand really just

00:42:34 the understanding camp ex just just to give you a perspective on what the purpose what the application

00:42:39 Looking back now, that's a question that I get asked.

00:42:42 Just one of many impressive names, right?

00:42:45 Exactly.

00:42:45 It's one of, it just shows the important role that, you know,

00:42:49 and, you know, that Camp X played.

00:42:51 And, you know, and another piece as well,

00:42:53 the entire Cold War arguably started at Camp X.

00:42:56 The entire Cold War.

00:42:57 That was kind of my end direction on this.

00:42:59 Well, let me explain why.

00:43:00 Because in 1945, Igor Gazenko was a Russian cipher clerk in Ottawa

00:43:04 at the Russian embassy.

00:43:06 Okay.

00:43:06 The Igor Gazenko affair.

00:43:07 Yeah.

00:43:07 he decided to defect came to a canadian there's a long story too which is fascinating i won't give

00:43:13 you that one he showed up at a canadian government facility saying i'm a russian spy admitted it i

00:43:19 have documents proof of a major infestation of russian spies inside the canadian government

00:43:26 i want to defect with my wife okay i'm willing to give all of this to you okay they took and

00:43:32 They hid him at Camp X.

00:43:33 They brought Stevenson back.

00:43:35 Because that's part of the story.

00:43:36 And that started the Cold War.

00:43:37 If you read about that, it says they put him into hiding for a period of time.

00:43:41 Camp X was the location.

00:43:43 He was there for the first two years.

00:43:44 Okay.

00:43:45 Now, the reality is, is that that's where the Camp X.

00:43:48 So, again, again, for frick's sakes, we've got the entire Cold War starting in Oshawa, too.

00:43:52 Like, what the heck, man? 0.87

00:43:54 You know, like, you can't make this stuff up. 0.87

00:43:56 You know what I mean?

00:43:56 It's interesting to me that we don't make a point of pride of camp.

00:43:59 Like, hashtag proud of Camp X.

00:44:02 Well, listen, would you allow me to make it

00:44:05 to be the only political comment that I make

00:44:06 if you allow me to make one?

00:44:07 Please, go ahead.

00:44:09 Am I okay?

00:44:09 Well, I will just say this. 0.95

00:44:10 Why is it, if we recognize these things as Canadians

00:44:14 and look at our history and look where we're at, 0.82

00:44:16 why is it that Polyev refuses to get a security clearance

00:44:20 that would allow him to confess what we know

00:44:23 is massive foreign interference in our current government

00:44:26 when it's, oh, that's a conflict of interest? 0.87

00:44:28 Bullcrap.

00:44:28 I work with international lawyers, no international lawyers. 0.91

00:44:31 Okay, it's called precedence.

00:44:33 There's absolutely every reason.

00:44:34 It's a far bigger precedence to disclose potential crime at that level,

00:44:40 yet he won't get it, yet we're dealing with the same issue.

00:44:42 Oh, no, ignore it, ignore it.

00:44:43 No one will talk about it.

00:44:44 No one won't answer to it.

00:44:46 Yet the whole Cold War was started over the very same issue,

00:44:49 foreign interference.

00:44:50 Where's the problem here? 0.99

00:44:52 Where's the issue here?

00:44:53 There's something else afoot.

00:44:55 So all I'll say is, all I'll say is, and I leave it there.

00:44:58 I'm not wanting to get in a soapbox with that.

00:45:00 All I'm saying is, I am big.

00:45:02 You ask the question.

00:45:03 I'm just asking the questions, man.

00:45:05 And I think it's important for Canadians to look at our history,

00:45:08 to understand the greatness of our genetics,

00:45:10 to understand our grandparents did phenomenal things,

00:45:13 and we are respected within the special operations world.

00:45:16 Listen, our JTF2 guys are top of the stack, okay?

00:45:19 They are respected as some of the most,

00:45:21 the modern definition of an elite soldier is Canada's JTF2,

00:45:25 Not SEAL Team 6, not Delta.

00:45:27 You know, they all have their own accolades in different positions.

00:45:30 But, man, Canada has first, even in a modern environment,

00:45:33 so many things and we'll never hear about it.

00:45:35 And that's okay.

00:45:36 But Canadians should be encouraged. 0.70

00:45:39 We've got phenomenal genetics.

00:45:40 Ask questions.

00:45:41 Stand up.

00:45:42 Know your history.

00:45:43 Understand where we come from.

00:45:45 Because you know what?

00:45:45 This nation has been nothing but a blessing under God.

00:45:48 You made my Father's Day.

00:45:50 I'm going to make sure that each of my kids gives me one of these.

00:45:52 And I'll encourage you to get them as well.

00:45:55 Rob Cressman's book, Camp X, Ghost War, Can't Kill a Shadow.

00:46:00 I like it.

00:46:02 And I'll go back in time to the beginning.

00:46:05 And, of course, the Bill Underwood legacy tracking the little giant killer

00:46:09 and the modern-day updated version of it.

00:46:14 Rob Cressman's discreet fighting, how he handles his business out there now

00:46:18 with the NATO affiliates that we deal with and our allies.

00:46:23 I really appreciated this.

00:46:24 You'll get the link to all of the books right there in the description.

00:46:29 And, oh, Rob, we're not done with you.

00:46:31 I think I see future episodes, if you don't mind.

00:46:33 I'd love to come back.

00:46:34 I'd love to come back and chat.

00:46:35 Thank you so much, my man.

00:46:37 Congratulations on all three of the books.

00:46:39 And, you know, help keep this legacy alive.

00:46:42 Share this episode.

00:46:43 Tell a friend about it.

00:46:44 And we'll be happy to join you again right here on tplmedia.ca, tplmedia.ca slash local.

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True Patriot Love - June 29, 2026

Camp X： Canada’s Secret Spy School & The Real James Bond ｜ ft. Robbie Cressman

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