True Patriot Love - May 14, 2026


Canada Needs a War Room Before It’s Too Late

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Shara Micucci Mike Wixson
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In a crisis, a war room is a compression engine for reality. It exists to collapse time. In normal government operations, information moves slow, layer by layer, department by department, days turn into weeks, weeks into months, and by the time action happens, the moment has already passed. A war room eliminates that delay. It pulls data, decision makers, and authority into a single space, physical or digital, where insight becomes action in real time. No lag, no bureaucracy, no diffusion of responsibility, just signal and response.

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00:00:00 We've all seen them. Dark rooms, glowing screens, maps covered in movement, voices low, urgent,
00:00:06 decisions made in seconds. Hollywood calls them war rooms. But in a modern democracy,
00:00:11 what are they really? A real war room isn't about theatrics. It isn't about generals staring at
00:00:16 maps. It's something far more powerful and far more dangerous if misunderstood. A true war room
00:00:23 is a compression engine for reality. It exists to collapse time. In normal government operations,
00:00:28 information moves slow, layer by layer, department by department, days turn into weeks, weeks into
00:00:34 months, and by the time action happens, the moment has already passed. A war room eliminates that
00:00:40 delay. It pulls data, decision makers, and authority into a single space, physical or digital, where
00:00:46 insight becomes action in real time. No lag, no bureaucracy, no diffusion of responsibility,
00:00:52 just signal and response. In a crisis, economic, political, environmental, that speed is an
00:00:58 luxury, it's the difference between control and chaos. So the real question isn't what is a war
00:01:04 room, it's this, who controls Canada's war or situation rooms and what's going on in them?
00:01:14 All right, and to talk more about this, a guy who's always informed on things,
00:01:19 militarily speaking, not only does he have a historical background in that with his
00:01:23 family involvement, but also well-read on the topic. Jim Lang, radio broadcast and television
00:01:30 broadcast icon, and now podcast leader in Canada. Thanks for joining me. Pleasure, Mike. Pleasure.
00:01:35 I'm very excited about this topic because it extends to sports and entertainment and business
00:01:41 beyond what the original thought process of it was. And it really started in the dark days of
00:01:47 World War II for England in 1940 during the Battle of Britain. And it was Winston Churchill and what
00:01:53 he called his war cabinet coming up and they created the war room war cabinet with top generals
00:01:59 and squadron leaders and war planners what are they going to do america wasn't in the war they
00:02:05 were a few against many and they didn't know how they were going to survive the summer and fall of
00:02:12 1940 with at that time adolf hitler in germany had conquered france and they were they could see
00:02:20 the white cliffs of dover and they thought if they don't win the germans are going to cross
00:02:25 english channel and take them over and it was all about planning every day what are we going to do
00:02:29 how are we going to do it what's our next step and being meticulous about it and being a leader and
00:02:35 being checking your ego at the door and if there was a junior officer or someone who had an idea
00:02:40 that was good listening to it and trying to incorporate it in the big plan so essentially
00:02:45 this came from this was born as many things are that are used for a long time born out of
00:02:52 necessity yes of organizing organizing experts in each field what are what assets do we have
00:02:59 where are the assets that we have uh who is going to handle the coordination of these assets
00:03:04 logistics i guess at that time you know munitions creation of munitions uh air air traffic air force
00:03:12 creation and Mike it was having someone with enough intestinal fortitude and courage to put
00:03:19 their hand up and say I disagree with Winston Churchill or a three-star general or whomever it
00:03:26 is and say I don't think that will work and this is why and that's the beauty of the of a war room
00:03:32 concept in business and sports and in the military and in the world is hey look I think this is going
00:03:40 to not work out and these are the reasons why why don't we try this uh you know winston churchill
00:03:46 one of the things that uh struck me is he had his own way of organizing how he did yeah very much
00:03:51 spent a lot of time in bed yeah you know that dictating to his secretary yeah and he would
00:03:55 have a uh he would have a cabinet uh beside the bed with all of the mail that he had to do and
00:04:00 every drawer had a but you know he had his own way of doing it and i think that had a lot to do with
00:04:05 the drink. But having said that, what was born of that is what we as in a modern society view as
00:04:14 a war room, a situation room, one room where everybody is working together on an equal playing
00:04:20 field to find solutions. And from there, the evolution was post-World War II. The allies had
00:04:28 won and they had a war room, the creation of the United Nations and NATO. And how are they going
00:04:34 split up the world now that they had conquered germany and japan and how are things going to
00:04:39 how are they going to rebuild and how are they going to feed people all of a sudden you've got
00:04:43 millions of displaced people with no food and nowhere to live so interesting already in a
00:04:48 peace time we're still calling it a war room yeah a war room because we're at war with the situation
00:04:54 hunger and and the serious health issues and hygiene and how if we don't have proper sanitation
00:05:01 and clean water and a roof on their head and it was something to feed them there's going to be
00:05:07 mass starvation mass death and they just had well so they had the idea look what do we need to do
00:05:13 and how can we do it and having like a big wall because this was the analog world where basically
00:05:18 you had a big chalkboard or whiteboard and someone with good penmanship writing out ideas and planning
00:05:24 it out and having a flow chart and all of a sudden people who were an officer in the navy or the
00:05:30 the military, the army got into the business world and said, well, you know what? If I took
00:05:35 that same philosophy and applied it to business and law and manufacturing, could it work? And it
00:05:40 did work. If you think about the big three automakers in the fifties and sixties and
00:05:45 how Germany and Japan rebuilt their countries, they took some of those same, same methodology,
00:05:51 same ideas, same concepts, and applied it to building homes and building highways and building
00:05:58 vehicles and manufacturing and running a country we also view uh i guess the classic war room is
00:06:04 the uh what's known as the situation room at the white house yes i would imagine every country has
00:06:10 their version of the situation room um the one i believe putin's has sharks with lasers swimming
00:06:17 around it right yeah uh and he has got a motor but having said that that's sort of really what
00:06:25 it is is real-time global crisis management yeah with all of the specialists in the room
00:06:32 advising that moment they have to and it's a true story so in the 1960s stanley kubrick made the
00:06:38 incredible movie dr strangelove yeah and in it there's a war room and there's a famous line
00:06:44 you can't fight in here this is the war room that's right i recall that so ronald reagan is
00:06:49 elected president of the united states and the white house staff and the secret service are
00:06:54 taking him through the white house for the first time he's looking around he said gentlemen where's
00:06:59 the war room that's funny and he said the culprit word for word and they said mr president we don't
00:07:06 have a war room that's only in the movie we have a situation room so he for years a lot because they
00:07:11 this is pre-internet he was also an actor he probably acted where he was in the world several
00:07:17 times yeah so but in in a situation room as they have in the white house and and in the pentagon
00:07:23 you would have the heads of the different military branches the head of intelligence services the head
00:07:29 of everyone else that they would need and this is where this is why a world leader looks so aged
00:07:36 after they've been in office because unfortunately mike you're being woken up at 2 30 in the morning
00:07:41 from a dead sleep and dragged down to the situation room and so look we got a problem in the persian
00:07:46 golf and strata hormuz and we need because you're the commander in chief and we need an answer now
00:07:51 right so they're sitting there staring into the war room like what the situation room right in the
00:07:55 white house and they're being fed all this information and they have to come up with a
00:08:00 decision right there so the quality of the information and how it's you know given to
00:08:05 the president at the time how it's explained to them in the simplest terms possible so they can
00:08:10 make an informed decision is crucial because it makes a change it can change the world in a in a
00:08:15 heartbeat looks what the price of oil is doing and that's a perfect example i mean if i ever become
00:08:20 the president of any country and i have to go into a war room or a situation room in the middle
00:08:25 of the night make sure there's an espresso sitting there and give me 10 minutes so the great thing
00:08:30 about it is some of the best minds in the national football league at one time served in world war ii
00:08:37 among them was tom landry the long-time coach of the dallas cowboys who was a b-17 pilot world war
00:08:44 too so he had been in war room situations as a pilot planning out missions and they decided the
00:08:50 Dallas Cowboys in the 60s to take that same concept with TechSram and everybody involved
00:08:57 with the organization to plan out the draft plan out the season plan out the organization and
00:09:02 created this massively successful team in the 60s and 70s winning Super Bowls filling stadiums the
00:09:09 dallas cowboy cheerleaders so and then extended the whole war room concept into the boardrooms
00:09:14 of bay street and wall street and fleet street in england into sports hey do i draft mike wickson
00:09:22 is he the good guy and having a flow chart of information and even to entertainment to this
00:09:27 day martin scorsese has a quote-unquote war room with all his principal photographers and
00:09:33 cinematographers so he knows where everybody is every day yeah hey leonardo dicaprio is going to
00:09:40 be here this day and we're going to do that that day and they map it out to the second unit two
00:09:44 is over here yeah this yeah no he's uh it's so it's interesting how uh and you bring it up in
00:09:50 sports that that becomes the org chart because in a situation room for war or national security
00:09:56 international planning those war rooms are full of people representing another large generally
00:10:03 speaking a large thinking group of people that are being referred to constantly some of those
00:10:09 may be in the room but behind that expert in at the table generally speaking at that level
00:10:14 there's an org chart that falls out of that thing from the highest level to the bottom bottom level
00:10:20 and then what really a war room as we pointed out in the beginning a war room gives you the
00:10:26 opportunity to shrink time to condense time how much time information takes to get to the top
00:10:32 of that decision making chart and i could be a scout and you're the general manager and i'm
00:10:37 saying i know you don't know him but i saw this kid christoph and he goes to queen's university
00:10:43 at kingston i'm telling you we have to draft him and there might be a lively debate ultimately you
00:10:49 as a general manager would have the final say but i'm giving my two cents worth and that's the kind
00:10:54 of thing it's like hey we have to create this product at one time someone in a board room in
00:10:59 a war room at coca-cola thought we're going to create new coke right to to combat pepsi because
00:11:05 pepsi was growing at such an exponential rate in the early mid 80s and becoming so huge well it
00:11:11 was a horrible mistake look how much money in market share coca-cola lost from the debacle
00:11:16 that was new coke but that was because they sat down and said okay they thought it was a great
00:11:21 idea we have one quarter in which to regain market share for our shareholders yeah what is our plan
00:11:27 going to be to deliver to them and it was if you think about it that was a massive massive
00:11:33 undertaking they said we're going to change our brand and put everything behind it a brand that 0.92
00:11:39 was 100 years old and we're going for it and you know it's a credit to that war room tactic
00:11:46 when you have every expert in the room on the same page it's hard to deny that you have a decision
00:11:53 that seems worthwhile making and at that moment you even know what your answer is otherwise it
00:11:59 would have come up in the war room previous to that or you could say why did no one speak up
00:12:04 right and that you hold accountable to junior members of your war room like you you were there
00:12:10 you had the opportunity say something that's what we're here for and i really think this concept
00:12:15 right now in canadian history mike is something that could be applied to the economy of this
00:12:21 country to manufacturing to infrastructure to business to combat what's going on with the
00:12:28 middle east combat donald trump combat tariffs we have the brain power in this country we we've
00:12:33 seen that time and time again if we get a good representation different groups of people and
00:12:38 actually listen to them and consider their ideas we could come up with some great plans you know
00:12:42 even more to the point, we have a lot of unqualified ministers. I point to the Minister
00:12:47 of Immigration, several other ministers out there that seem completely unqualified to head their
00:12:53 position. If you knew that they were just one voice in a war room or a situation room or an
00:13:01 action room, whatever you want to call it in this modern era, you'd feel more confident. I think we
00:13:06 would get further and make better decisions and that then reports that once again part of that
00:13:13 org chart makes its way faster to the top before long-term decisions uh have long-term effects
00:13:20 mike you think about right now the federal minister of immigration diop out of halifax west
00:13:25 and and how she's under fire even some members of her own liberal party are kind of not happy
00:13:30 with her portfolio yeah does she inspire confidence when she's in their situation room
00:13:35 admitting that there's thousands of undocumented foreigners in this country.
00:13:40 They don't even know if they're part of the IRGC.
00:13:42 They just got rid of one, but they don't even know how many there are in the country.
00:13:45 So if you thought to yourself, okay, we have a situation room on immigration 0.99
00:13:49 because we have a problem that is terrible for new Canadians, immigrants to Canada. 0.99
00:13:55 And safety, crime.
00:13:57 It's problematic for Canadians overall, financially, safety-wise, the healthcare.
00:14:02 here. So now we know it is a national situation. So now do we need a situation room where we get
00:14:10 reports out of the situation room daily? Mark Carney was the head of the Bank of England,
00:14:16 the Bank of Canada, head of some of the biggest hedge funds in the world. I have to believe
00:14:20 that he has been privy and part of these really high level business war rooms, exchanging ideas.
00:14:27 do we go short the stock do we go long do we invest in oil right do we look at green energy
00:14:33 so i i would like to hear stories that carney because right now it appears that he's got a
00:14:38 real small key group of people that he listens to and really doesn't want to hear from anybody else
00:14:43 but you know here we are in this yes his executive cadre and that's about it that's about it but on
00:14:49 this wednesday that we're taping there's the disturbing story that honda canada is not going
00:14:54 be going through their electrical vehicle plan in ontario and that's a loss of thousands of jobs
00:14:59 potentially for the province and for the country okay there's another situation room we've got to
00:15:03 get back to work so how do we fix this we need a productivity we need a a real productivity and
00:15:11 economic situation room right now okay so here's a good example we found out this morning honda's
00:15:17 not coming in several days ago we got what is our plan of action we need experts from the the field
00:15:24 of economics we need people from manufacturing the auto sector tell us what replace is there
00:15:29 a replacement for the auto sector we need to be thinking about at a higher level all of these
00:15:34 things need to come in and you would hope that we have ottawa set up in a fashion that there are these
00:15:40 situation rooms looking out for us and if there aren't historically we found that they do create
00:15:47 enormous uh potential for progress and success and great ideas and there is one potential right now
00:15:53 the hanwa people of south korea mike have said if you buy the submarines we're building armored
00:15:59 vehicles and mobile artillery units in canada so if you've lost all these jobs from honda there's
00:16:05 a chance to replace them with high-tech sophisticated jobs and military equipment
00:16:10 that they said they will build there and that that to me is something you would discuss in a
00:16:16 political economic world yeah so tell me what what's the outcome either way on this and how
00:16:20 How many jobs and what's the benefit?
00:16:22 Extrapolate this notion of what would happen on, you know, for better or for worse.
00:16:26 Give me the pros and cons.
00:16:26 Do we have to build homes and roads?
00:16:28 Do we have to do stuff?
00:16:29 That's a great.
00:16:30 So you wonder.
00:16:32 So here's the thing.
00:16:33 And we'll get to a couple of other ones.
00:16:35 Yeah.
00:16:35 The truth is so many people are working from home now.
00:16:39 Yeah.
00:16:39 And what I would love to see, and I think you would love to see in many Canadians is we look into our government offices and see a war room of experts,
00:16:48 then leaving that room to execute decisions.
00:16:51 Yeah.
00:16:52 It seems like we could get a group email together
00:16:56 or have a Zoom call later on today to get to this, 0.82
00:16:59 but, you know, Susie can't log in
00:17:02 and John doesn't have the ability to send a document.
00:17:06 And then Jim's think it's just a cat.
00:17:08 Yeah.
00:17:08 You take the cat off the screen.
00:17:10 Jim, you're a cat again.
00:17:12 So, you know, I think that we need to maybe really consider
00:17:17 how we get people back into a room together yeah even if it once a month i was going to say even if
00:17:25 it is intermittently uh weekly every second day on some of the issues but a war room a situation room
00:17:32 is how we historically do handle a situation uh the other thing that it does is it brings into
00:17:39 focus shared assets so you get a group of people in the room and i say to you hey uh jim listen
00:17:45 we've got to buy, we've got to get a barbecue.
00:17:49 Well, I've got an extra barbecue.
00:17:51 Right.
00:17:51 You're not doing anything with that barbecue?
00:17:53 Put the barbecue up on the list.
00:17:54 Take it out of the budget.
00:17:55 We start to remove these hidden costs, I think,
00:18:00 when you have people in a room putting the picnic together.
00:18:03 But you raised a great point about these sort of detached silos
00:18:08 that people are in from the remote work.
00:18:10 Yeah, you're having superficial conversation,
00:18:13 but it's online and you're doing work,
00:18:14 and then okay thanks thanks i'll see you later then you go back to your job but when you're in
00:18:19 a room and you're there for half a day and maybe you have a coffee table and some tea
00:18:24 and you're chit-chatting and they're socializing and interacting they're like oh and then that i
00:18:30 don't know how we could not create a good creative flow of ideas and get the juices going and start
00:18:36 thinking oh wait a sec you said this because if you're in the room together because the one thing
00:18:42 that sports does well after a draft or after free agency they'll release a video of 10 to 12 people
00:18:49 in the team all debating and talking about do we sign them do we trade them do we draft them and
00:18:54 it's fascinating to hear i think so also giving that transparency yeah makes you believe more in
00:19:02 that team's ability but okay why can't we see but i mean they will have obviously final say
00:19:07 Not commissions, not commissions where we sit and have somebody defend themselves.
00:19:12 No, but Carney and his top advisors, sleeves rolled up, tie undone, you know, a stale cup of coffee,
00:19:20 hammering out problems and coming up solutions and say, hey, we did this and this is how we did it.
00:19:25 I think Canadians would like to peel back the layers and see how they come up with these ideas.
00:19:30 Let's take a look at Canada's military and how they handle a war room.
00:19:35 What does Canada do in the way of a military war room or situation room scenario if something was to arise?
00:19:44 Well, they have a couple.
00:19:45 They have the head maritime headquarters in Atlantic, which is in Halifax, and which liaisons with NATO.
00:19:52 They have a cybersecurity war room, unfortunately, now because that's such a big concern in the world.
00:19:57 They have national defense headquarters, NDHQ, in Ottawa, and that would be the de facto our version of the Pentagon.
00:20:04 on okay so that's when things kick off and the prime minister is notified the chief of defense
00:20:09 staff that we have to send the 250 heavily armed troops via a c-17 globe master to this part of
00:20:17 the world they get together and they sort it out it's going to be cfp trenton we're going to go to
00:20:21 cfp petawawa we're going to get these members of the military this is the equipment they need
00:20:26 and this is the logistics to keep them going and they map it and plan it all out so we have this
00:20:31 already in place and it's interesting because there's a gentleman we've had on here and i'll
00:20:35 recommend you go back and take a look for the episode we did with jeff wilson talking about
00:20:39 outbreak response yeah and it's a great great episode it well really jeff is talking in many
00:20:45 ways about what we're talking about now we have an outbreak in in lack of housing okay we need an
00:20:51 outbreak response to this problem we have an outbreak in uh you know uh food insecurity the
00:20:58 price of food uh production of products in our country uh you know use of our resources in this
00:21:05 country so these are outbreaks of an issue yes it's not a pandemic and it's not the bird flu
00:21:11 uh or a hantavirus those poor people on that cruise i digress having said that it does elicit
00:21:19 a response when that group comes together and says we have to have a response for this
00:21:24 let's get all of the experts let's run all of the logistics and now i would imagine incorporating ai
00:21:30 would make it that much more effective and and less time consumed mike you just nailed it think
00:21:37 about how we all came together during covet there was a massive global problem that need to be fixed
00:21:43 as soon as humanly possible to get life back going yeah so they did bring in everyone now this is
00:21:50 pre-ai so now you would have a group of people you would have ai systems you would have experts all
00:21:56 working together it even light speed compared to what it would a decision making before
00:22:02 because you would have had ai create some options and ideas and thoughts and you see how it compares
00:22:09 to yours and come up with a solution i and we could apply it to the homelessness the unhoused
00:22:16 food insecurity the infrastructure uh trying to get things built and get things done in this
00:22:22 country and get the economy going so that if donald trump goes on a sits on the toilet again
00:22:27 and starts going a true social and creating these crazy ideas we have a defense for it
00:22:33 you know we have uh 780 billion dollars in pension assets and a two trillion dollar
00:22:39 liability at the moment so we're we're upside down oh absolutely so wouldn't that be carny
00:22:46 with the top financial economic minds in the country coming up with solutions coming up maybe
00:22:53 with plans no one's thought about that maybe might work here's the other thing a war room excuse me
00:22:57 when you leave a war room it's with an action plan yeah and uh a delivery date yes so i think
00:23:06 There's an urgency to create what you promise to do by that time.
00:23:10 I mean, and yes, we're not at war, but we are at situation point with many of these things.
00:23:17 If we don't turn our economy around, there will be no pension.
00:23:20 There is no doubt about it.
00:23:22 If we don't make, if we don't deploy properly into various industries, we're going to fall behind.
00:23:29 our gdp is going to fall out of whack and we're going to fall out of the g7 almost entirely uh
00:23:36 and globally speaking right now we're not that productive we need a we don't need a think tank
00:23:43 we need an action room that says by this date the action room okay so here's one other point
00:23:49 winston churchill said that the most beautiful part about a war room is it keeps you honest
00:23:55 absolutely when there are people at different levels of expertise you can't put your own
00:24:00 personal self-interest first in a war room you have to do what's best to solve the situation
00:24:07 that first and foremost is perhaps why we don't see more of this we see think tanks and we see
00:24:15 you know committees and things that take a long time to put into action that protect
00:24:20 the government that protect politicians from actually having to deliver anything during their
00:24:25 own term could you imagine an action plan that turned around our economy in the term of the
00:24:32 prime minister no he's looking at a budget jim that is far beyond his prime minister like far
00:24:39 beyond his term so we need these action plans could actually put us in a scenario in canada
00:24:46 where we have a prime minister delivering from each of these pillars of desperation at the moment
00:24:52 some sort of clarity and action and it can be done because paul martin and jean christian did it yes
00:24:58 they did they we had a big deficit and they created a surplus they it can be done and and
00:25:04 i understand when mark carney stands up on the house of commons and toes the line that we have
00:25:10 great affordability when everyone's like no we don't and everything's fine no it isn't but at
00:25:15 the same time this is where all his acumen and all his experience get together and if you had
00:25:21 the war room mentality for the economy for production for infrastructure imagine what
00:25:28 could be accomplished if you actually brought in the best of the best in the country listen to
00:25:33 their advice come up with an action plan let's see if we can get this done by this state it could
00:25:38 create great things you would hope right well we've seen historically this works and and another
00:25:42 good modern day example of it. And I was just taking a look at the notes that Christophe handed
00:25:47 off to me this morning. One of the best examples that we've seen worldwide is the Israeli National
00:25:56 Cyber Directorate. Everything that happens that is hooked up to any sort of digital data
00:26:03 communication, whether it's to their water treatment facilities, whether it is aerial or
00:26:10 uh terrorist attack whether it is crime on the street all of these various things are managed
00:26:17 out of one central very focused topical protect our country constant uh vigil so it's 24 7
00:26:27 you have to and and the people in there are the experts in each of those fields the water
00:26:33 treatment facility people are there on hand all the time so if they get a report they can react
00:26:38 to it instantaneously uh that group also reports back consistently to the people of israel what
00:26:49 some of their concerns are and they do that to the prime minister simultaneously not behind
00:26:54 closed doors so now that transparency to some degree is there not with national security
00:26:58 necessarily because a lot of that their surveillance is second to none i'm sure in israel yeah they're
00:27:04 the leaders so yeah so uh if you want to follow the leaders on the cyber front let's go copy their
00:27:12 model another one because right now it's more provincial so quebec has the huge uh churchill
00:27:19 falls hydroelectric we have the opg ontario power group with the combination of hydroelectric and
00:27:25 nuclear power so it would i think it'd be a great idea to have a central canadian national
00:27:33 think tank that takes in all the information from all the provinces and identifies, oh, hey,
00:27:39 there's a problem in Saskatchewan. How are we going to deal with it? Now, I'm going to give
00:27:42 you a suggestion. And let's just see where this goes. We're in a war room. This is what it's all
00:27:46 about. Let me throw this one up on the board. You know what we need? What? We need the best
00:27:50 of the best civilians that know what they're doing. Yes. So what if we put a program out
00:27:56 there that said we're going to create a war room on our economy. We're going to create a housing 0.99
00:28:00 war room right we're going to create uh an international trade war room whatever the
00:28:06 situation is what if we brought what if we made an offer to the best of the best said to them
00:28:12 apply we want you it's a great paying job it's an honorable thing to do for your country and we'll
00:28:18 make it worth your while with a great pension there afterward and we want you for this period
00:28:23 of time on in the war room here's your responsibilities in that war and look what
00:28:28 you'll be doing for the country look at your legacy well forget paying consultants let's get
00:28:33 people in the war room actually working on the stuff until it is done a war room is there until
00:28:40 the work is done that's the other thing i have noticed i mean they they had the war cabinet in
00:28:46 england until may of 1945 when they had ve day victory in europe they had no choice right they
00:28:52 had no choice it just had to be there when the job was done then they didn't have it and they took
00:28:58 the knowledge of how to do that and it got applied pretty quickly to nato so i mean and then the
00:29:03 people that left the military applied it to shipbuilding commercial shipbuilding to you know
00:29:09 trains making the you know all that kind of stuff around the world and this is where we have to
00:29:15 start thinking seriously as a country we are not at war as in war sake but we are at economic war
00:29:21 so if we're at economic war and we're worried about massive deficits and now paying i believe
00:29:27 it's 13 cents every dollar on the deficit and this kind of thing how do we change that well if we
00:29:34 bring in as you say some of the best civilians in the country with top politicians put them together
00:29:40 because like let's be honest i could be an mp when my writing get appointed as a minister for a
00:29:46 certain portfolio but really i what do i know about this or that so you're relying on junior
00:29:52 ministers and assistants giving you like information every day but you're not an expert
00:29:57 but if you could bring in a civilian who is an expert imagine what a difference that would make
00:30:02 okay so now imagine this at the top level okay imagine that the the the prime minister the
00:30:08 cabinet has its own war room that the cabinet that the parliament for one day a week runs like a war
00:30:16 room yeah okay put it all up on the board what's our top three priorities this week and what are
00:30:20 the top three expenses we can get rid of this week yeah make a case for this this this and this
00:30:25 and then every week we start to reduce that cost of running the country it starts to become more
00:30:32 transparent we start to see what's happening on a day-to-day basis and we start to see the daily
00:30:37 effects of what we're doing as a nation and check your ego at the door yeah and don't worry about
00:30:42 your if you're going to be a minister or not and we'll say hey minister dia why is there you know
00:30:48 this many people unaccounted for hey you know you go to all the different ministers minister
00:30:53 mcginty are we where are we on the submarine purchase and you push votes through do we keep
00:30:58 or take vote happening in five minutes and you get it to happen yeah okay if it needs desperately to
00:31:04 come back it will find its way back into the government and if a backbencher that no one's
00:31:08 heard of in weeks puts up their hand and says i have an idea you listen to them right because it
00:31:13 could be a great idea and make a big difference for the country so i mean these are lofty ideas
00:31:18 but i think the takeaway is the war room needs to come back we can't be working from our homes jim
00:31:26 it's on zoom and making qualified decisions while the cat is using the litter box beside us i'm
00:31:34 sorry i think we need to get back to a focused really if we're going to win if we're going to
00:31:41 get our economy back we need focused individuals the best that we can get at the highest levels
00:31:47 supported by government dealing with each of these issues until they're solved yeah i'm i'm a
00:31:53 i'm all about balance so i i believe that there is a place in the world for some remote work and
00:31:59 work from home that's some of it but not all of it that you have to have a few two three weeks
00:32:05 Yeah, go on vacation and go home on the weekends.
00:32:09 But during your shifts, you go to work, especially when you're trying to save a nation.
00:32:13 I mean, it depends what it is.
00:32:15 I think there has to be time where, okay, I have the information.
00:32:18 I need my time in my space, wherever it is, to work through it.
00:32:22 Then you get together, say, weekly or every 10 days.
00:32:25 Like, I work through this.
00:32:26 These are the things I like.
00:32:28 These are the things I don't like.
00:32:29 And this is maybe what we should implement.
00:32:31 Yeah, Jim, go to your office.
00:32:32 I'll see you at lunchtime.
00:32:33 i don't think people need i think we need to be together yeah you know what but here's the issue
00:32:39 now i drove by my local gas station getting my morning coffee was 195.9 a liter okay let's
00:32:45 augment people's income who are in these war rooms and let's get them back to work okay so that's
00:32:53 good so if if you they're serious about doing that i think it's a great idea i think that's
00:32:58 part of the problem for a lot of people you know 30 canadians now their their monthly budgets being
00:33:03 affected by the price of gas okay so if we're going to spend some money in this government
00:33:07 let's get people the gas that they need to get to the war room every day to make a difference
00:33:11 and then yes we'll send it to people's uh we'll we'll podcast it out to people digitally yeah but
00:33:18 the people working on this we need a concerted effort in in in a group like we're talking about
00:33:26 But, Mike, I'm a weekly war room guy.
00:33:29 Yeah.
00:33:29 And then the next week, if you haven't accomplished things and you haven't done the work and you haven't prepared, you'll be exposed the next war room meeting.
00:33:39 You'll be called out.
00:33:40 That is true.
00:33:41 Yeah.
00:33:41 So I don't care if you do it in your desk office, the building or at home.
00:33:45 Just get the work done.
00:33:46 Yeah.
00:33:46 I want you.
00:33:47 I want you in your office.
00:33:48 All right.
00:33:48 So we'll agree to disagree.
00:33:50 But we'll still get back to the war room.
00:33:54 You better have ideas.
00:33:55 you better have answers and you better have solutions this was a good discussion and by
00:34:00 the way it took a war room to convince me to do this properly today and so to the war room around
00:34:04 me lieutenant christoph uh thanks for joining sir don't forget to subscribe wherever you're
00:34:10 watching or listening to this oh yeah start talking promote your pip your tour okay so
00:34:16 look here's the thing we're going across canada you're going to find us uh uh in your town likely
00:34:21 at some point uh shout out greyhounds we've got uh what else is on the list medicine hat and
00:34:26 regina we've got uh abbotsford and cam loops we're going to uh edmonton brandon the weekends
00:34:32 why does that sound like that what was the senator or somebody running for office at one time
00:34:35 we're going to manitoba and we're going to bc we'll be delighted to see you wherever we can
00:34:43 and uh we'll make sure that uh in this video you get a link to the cities that we're going to next
00:34:48 because we'd love you to come out and join our war room.
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