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- February 22, 2026
Canada's Problem With Gang Crime
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19 minutes
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3,132
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1
Hate Speech Sentences
2
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when you talk crime with somebody who focuses on that for a living and the conversation off
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camera begins with there's so much to cover every day now it's sort of a frightening place to be
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but that's where our conversation began today off camera with jeremy grimaldi who i often refer to
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as canada's last crime reporter hey jeremy how you doing i'm great how are you good thank you
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well you were right when you pointed out earlier yeah there's a lot going on a lot to cover off on
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this week and over the last couple of weeks certainly a couple of things and if you don't
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mind we can go through a couple of topics starting with of course the tragedy that occurred in british
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columbia you and i also having a chat about that trying to unravel it from a crime perspective
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almost seems pointless this uh almost feels like more of a case of us having missed something
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along the way from a mental health perspective yeah i was i was uh kind of shocked by that story and
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and there's so many questions so few answers it's hard to know where to start but one thing that
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that definitely caught me off guard was how many times police have been to his home
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or her home uh and and found weaponry including guns uh yeah i i feel as though there's so much
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focus on crime there's so much focus on the justice system it's clearly bunged up but there's
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there is no it seems like there's no intervention that's possible or suitable for some of the people
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we have in our society i think that's probably always been the case and we've seen these it's
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shocking to canadians to experience this we had uh the last time we saw anything like this was in
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montreal uh certainly in in my youth uh that became an indelible moment this is another one of those
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that just seems inexplicable uh we may never have the answers people need but for certain that
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that poor town is devastated i would dare say forever yeah that that that kind of tragedy
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especially one that's so difficult to digest and difficult to know how to feel about is one that
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uh you know it's a it's a modern day one in the past uh there would be you know there'd be certain
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feelings from the public that would that would evolve into memory and memorials this one seems like
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it's going to be so complicated and convoluted that i i just don't know how you'd move on from it
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i don't think in the traditional way no i think that this you're right i think this is going to be a new
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experience for everybody involved and and certainly for canadians uh to digest has been um just as
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devastating i think uh i wonder from your perspective the coverage of this as a reporter
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um and uh you've been doing it for many years the coverage is difficult i i have noticed that
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uh the struggle over gender has been a major issue uh in publications and the reception of how people
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are gendering the this murderer um and uh i wonder how you feel about how that's all being handled it's
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it's really touchy i'm not really sure how to feel about it is is the short answer um different media
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organizations have different rules around identity um so that causes a layer of i think confusion on
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behalf of the public and potentially on behalf of the media itself uh after that initial barrier of the
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media uh there's also online uh information um purveyors i guess i'd call them they're not reporters
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but purveyors of of information um who are telling a totally different story and who are uncovering and
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and uh uh releasing a lot of information that the the mainstream media doesn't have or doesn't have yet
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or doesn't feel comfortable releasing right so there's there's a there's a disconnect there there's a
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there's a further disconnect when when the mainstream media discusses um about about some of these things
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going on online and a part of me feels like that that may be a direct result of some of the rules that
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they face in reporting some of these issues and and again some of the rules that the police face
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in releasing information and it all adds up to uh something that has as i think led to confusion
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i think you're right at the moment that it happened i think there was confusion um it just it's
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interesting to know that a lot of this is driven by policy not necessarily the writer or the reporter
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uh it's more the policy of the media outlet and how they're going to handle it uh i think that's
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pretty interesting nonetheless a horrible tragedy and i think covering it from a crime perspective
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as i say is um it's just not a thing most likely and and this is a long investigative process i would
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imagine so many people involved uh so many families involved in such a small community where
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there isn't a massive policing force present at all times um so i think that a lot will come out over
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the next months and uh you know the weeks and months ahead but and we'll check in with you on
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that but i just wanted to uh kind of put a pin in it to say you know this is a one of those moments
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in canadian crime history that i think uh sadly will will not be forgotten yeah it it won't likely be
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forgotten and it'll be interesting to see what kind of perspective history adds to it
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um because often uh often the perspective is dialed in right away and people understand it right away
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like they're all shooting um and then there's ones that we don't quite understand right away and and
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and and we understand better over time slowly and so a different perspective is is held
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a year in two years in uh then then was held uh when it happened yeah that's interesting too yeah
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i think that we will definitely have a different lens on this in the days ahead uh i wanted to ask
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you also uh this occurred and and and i think that it kind of got passed over you know as one of the
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murder numbers in the gta but little ot uh omer niaz muhammad uh by his uh birth name was shot and
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killed february 9th he was 24 years old and uh to the uh rap and hip-hop community in ontario canada
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uh across the country and beyond uh this was a bit of a shock he was shot in burlington um in a public
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place at a shopping center and it just led me to to down the road of thinking oh my
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gosh this is seven or eight that i've heard of in the last couple of years you know brazen public
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shootings and uh you know i wonder what your take is on that why are we starting to see this or
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is this more common than i noticed before i would dare say it's more common than you noticed i think uh
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uh a lot of it has to do with the the the popularity of the artist uh i've covered a couple of these
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incidents involving rappers well more than a couple to be honest but when when when the the rapper is
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more popular more eyes are on it from around the globe um that's the first thing and the second thing
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is that uh what i think i think what we're seeing is young people who who maybe don't have that much to
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lose um engaging in online um uh battles and and and disrespect that that leads to uh this kind of
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behavior and it's it's it's sad and it it it opens up your eyes to maybe uh more of a societal issue
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um that's that's sometimes not discussed i think also our bail reform uh comes into play here maybe a
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little bit too if you know that you're going to be out uh on bail pretty quickly after shooting at
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somebody in a public place uh whatever street cred that gives you is met with laws that are you know
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lenient to say the very least and a bail system that's going to have you back on the street within
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minutes yeah the bail system seems to play a role in in a lot of uh crimes these days now a defense
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attorney will tell you that maybe it's just that we're finally reporting it more than the actual
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bail system changing all right i don't really know what to believe there's very few numbers and
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statistics on this but you know it is a fact that nowadays police are when they release the details
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of a crime they are putting in the press release or the tweet or whatever it is they're releasing
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that the person was on some sort of recognizance some sort of bail so that that does add a a layer of
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you know misunderstanding i think comparatively speaking to to the way we understood it in the
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past where the police wouldn't have announced that and the way we're understanding it now i don't know
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that gun buyback is working when there's so many brazen shootings but the other thing that occurs to me
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is that they're happening in public places which if you think about it is kind of scary but it seems
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ideal for these moments you know maybe you know where this person goes on a regular basis there's
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a convenience store there that you know that they visit uh a salon that you know that they go to on
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it becomes a way of keeping up with the routine it gives you a little bit of anonymity in the crowds
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where this is occurring and it's just unexpected yeah yeah i i don't i don't have offhand what kind of car
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they were driving but i understand that oh sorry it was a white suv um and and apparently now there's
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a second vehicle but i know one vehicle was found burnt out uh by the police after the crime so i do
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i do know that that some of these getaway drivers often use vehicles that are not noticeable uh i know
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that under civic was the vehicle to use for for years i understand that may be changing now but
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but but um it does open up that opportunity to do it in a public place but it also shows
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the inexperience of these guys the the depth of their what do you want to call it hatred towards
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the other person one of the other stories that i'm following is and i think everybody has certainly
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here in ontario is the corruption that's going on uh in the gta among the police that story was shocking
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to me oh yeah that that that's a that's a big one you don't you don't come across that every day
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um and and there was a lot of people involved and you know what what shocked me was the you know the
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media loves to use the word brazen uh and and this was brazen um the the fact that some of these cops are
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willing to to sail their colleagues down the river uh for for what a few thousand dollars and uh and
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some you know some uh some some ties to organized crime is is beyond me i don't understand how you
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can do that and live uh with with with your conscience after doing something like that if you
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don't mind kind of recap the story for us because you're going to be the best eyes on this i think we've
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got in the country yeah um well uh you know a lot of a lot of cops were tied up in this um and you know
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in one particular incident that that the police are alleging um a police officer sold uh the address
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of a correctional officer um to a gang or a gang member or someone who wanted some retribution
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uh and they visited his home and tried to tried to kill him three times i believe in in the coming
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days uh i also understand um that the correctional officer uh was in charge of ensuring that drugs
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stayed out of prisons and he was quite successful at that um so it it you know one's mind goes to the
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idea that perhaps they were uh losing a lot of money due to not being able to get drugs into
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correctional facilities and this was payback again no no proof of that but that is that's something that
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that jumps to your mind it it certainly does i think that was the uh speculation that everybody
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jumped to at that moment uh was that this was somebody was in the way of drugs it actually felt to me
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like the officers involved the police that were involved were part of a gang there was so much going
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on here so many layers to this that they must have known about or you would assume that they knew about
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that it just felt to me like there was a gang embedded in the police force and i think that a lot of
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people feel that way yeah and and and fair enough for feeling that way now i i going back to my initial
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statement about sailing your colleague down the river for a few thousand dollars which something
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we've seen in the the ryan wedding investigation or i'll get incredible crazy um uh yeah just just to put
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put a point on that i did i did speak to a number of sources afterwards about this the idea that they're
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willing to sell information to these to these gangs a lot of them low lives to to do this sort of crime
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against a upstanding member of the community um and i was told that you know a lot of times it's done
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once and once the gangs have that information of you committing that crime or doing that that deed for
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them they they sort of have you uh with their tentacles so when they need another something else done
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they they have they have the ability to extort you into doing it um so just to just to explain it a
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bit better for the viewer because i it's something that i was really wondering about uh you'd think
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that an officer would have more scruples in this you know i do understand it's a stressful job uh i do
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understand you know linking arms with with with the underworld sometimes in some situations because again the
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the world they live in is one uh where the lines can be blurred uh and again i'm not condoning it i just
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say that i i do comprehend it i understand it this i feel took things a step further yeah it does feel
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like that doesn't it like to begin with if they already had their hooks if they had their talons into
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these police that became involved in this process um what were they doing before you know where did
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this begin this sounds like we're far down the the track of uh you know becoming involved with the
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underworld so uh i think that was the most shocking element of that now what happens uh as best you know
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what happens in this process now uh there will be i would imagine there will be a full investigation
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there'll be it'll go to court what do you anticipate will will be the the trail on this well it's going
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to be a lengthy one because all these officers have long well not all of them but a lot of a lot of the
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ones that were heavily involved or allegedly heavily involved have have long careers so you know you have to
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wonder um if you're if you're a superior uh how many crimes were they involved in how many of the
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crimes they investigated uh did did they did they play dirty who knows so you know they're gonna have
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to reach way back into these people's history and uh and and try and gain as much evidence as possible
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um you'd have to imagine uh that they'll find it and then and then there's the the further investigation
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into all police forces and um and all officers around the province maybe around the country you know
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this this is one that scares you and this is one that makes you wonder uh you know what's going on
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behind closed doors and then you take a look across the province and there's corruption charges
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being laid uh internally not just in toronto but in in several uh different jurisdictions um is it
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too easy are we leaving something out is there um a widespread uh endemic issue going on across
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the province and maybe across the country it'll be very curious to see what this unwinds
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yeah and and those those are all completely fair questions that have to be asked uh because
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this is the last thing you'd want um when the police uh get corrupted you're you're you know the next
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step is uh banana republic so they're they're our last line of defense uh between us and the criminals
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so um yeah you want them to be upstanding uh people and and officers yeah it's a respect that we
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uphold uh based on that uh you know many of the things that police do but uh honesty and steering
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clear of corruption i think is the kind of first marker jeremy thank you so much my man for being
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with us and uh i'll put out there that uh you see a lot more jeremy around here following crime because
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that's what we need uh i think that it's very interesting earlier you said jeremy that the police are
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now putting out whether somebody was on bail when they're announcing a more recent crime so that we can
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see what's going on i wouldn't have known that if you hadn't have told me that and other gems to keep
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you safe and uh keep a handle on crime uh with jeremy grimaldi right here on tpl thank you so much
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thank you thank you have a nice day
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