True Patriot Love - August 30, 2026


Canada-U.S. Tariff Fight: What Are We Missing? ft. Brian Jedan


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00:00:00.000 today on tpl media we're lucky enough to have brian jidan back sometimes controversial sometimes
00:00:06.640 outspoken brian tells it like it is he has a theory on why these terrorists are happening
00:00:12.240 and so do i let's share some facts not fiction let's learn and let's find out
00:00:17.920 what's behind the scenes and what's going on stay tuned you're really going to enjoy this show
00:00:23.280 hey brian hey paul how's it going uh you know tariffs man i tell you all day long you know
00:00:36.300 the propaganda is just driving me crazy and so i'm glad you took the time you know it's interesting
00:00:43.440 i i when i start hearing all this i think to myself i just want the facts right and you know
00:00:50.440 it's so hard to get the facts so you know i i was on a show the other day and i was talking about
00:00:56.200 the the white house site you know and it was on another issue and i said if you just go to the
00:01:01.480 white house site the president and the vice president just tell you what they're thinking
00:01:07.640 you don't have to wonder you just go to their site and they they say it right there so i went
00:01:13.560 for tariffs to take a look at stats can oh and tell me paul what did you find on stats can well
00:01:21.880 it's it's interesting no thank you thank you for the lead-in right so exports and imports right
00:01:27.960 they make up and it's funny about 789 billion dollars right right uh of exporting uh or sorry
00:01:38.120 importing and 779 on exporting so they're roughly even there's a little gap in between but quite
00:01:44.360 frankly that's what we do um on a canadian basis so then i said okay let's start breaking that down
00:01:51.000 what are we exporting right so you know you take a look at kind of what are we exporting
00:01:56.280 so you know with our metals and everything else and what went up between 24 and 25 so what exports
00:02:03.720 went up and what went down so it was very interesting so i took a look and i want to run
00:02:07.800 you through this so on the exporting front um we had metals and aircraft go up so we saw more
00:02:19.000 exporting and metals and aircraft but everything else so when it comes to fishing farming energy
00:02:25.160 all those other things motor vehicle parts forestry all went down which is i don't think
00:02:31.640 it's any shock right because our american trade went down right we kind of know that so but we
00:02:36.760 we're not talking about it much so those things went down so then i said okay on the import side
00:02:41.960 what do we import well almost all our imports went up so we exported less imported more again
00:02:48.280 we saw it our imports surpassed our exports but roughly even and quite frankly the biggest thing
00:02:54.520 we we imported were metals again of course yeah so you know from from where well hold on let's
00:03:01.480 that's a great question right so right because because quite frankly when we took a look and
00:03:06.680 i'm going to kind of dial through a couple of slides here when we took a look here of course
00:03:12.200 we saw that our uh export growth um from the u.s went down right about 31 billion dollars of
00:03:22.520 decreased exporting to the u.s and the importing also went down okay right not as much right
00:03:31.480 uh only 15 billion but we didn't see some increases so actually when you go over to
00:03:37.960 europe we saw an increase in europe of exporting of 22 mostly a lot of it to the uk which we're
00:03:43.800 going to show in a minute um and you know indo the indo-pacific okay right so china right you know
00:03:51.800 because that's where the majority of the trade went um and then our importing uh also went up
00:03:58.280 so it went up from china and a little bit from britain mostly from germany um in europe
00:04:05.080 germany from germany i didn't expect that at all yeah so that's very interesting so
00:04:09.640 you know i took a look at it so i just wanted to before we get into the the detail of it i
00:04:14.520 really wanted to say what happened in 24 verse 25 because we you know brian we started seeing
00:04:20.280 we talked about terrorists but we started seeing the impacts of a lot of this before
00:04:24.840 right this isn't a new thing as you know like the our our trade uh challenges with the us
00:04:31.400 have been going on for for quite some time now right and we've been seeing the diminishing
00:04:36.360 trade uh between the two countries right so no shocker right no none at all but when you get
00:04:42.600 into it right and we look at the exports of course the majority of our exports are with
00:04:47.800 america right so if you go through it 500 uh 564 billion dollars in 2025 was with the us
00:04:59.160 right off the stats can site europe we had a whopping 96 billion dollars oh huge right in
00:05:06.920 comparison indo-pacific which is china and india 83 billion okay and then after that quite frankly
00:05:15.080 latin america africa all small right all under 20 billion dollars so we don't see a lot of and
00:05:21.320 that's no shock i don't think that's a big shocker to anyone right but then on the import side uh we
00:05:27.560 saw basically 361 billion dollars with the u.s the rest of the world made up 422. so hang on a second
00:05:36.360 we shipped out to the u.s 500 billion and we shipped in 300 billion yes with the product okay
00:05:43.400 that sounds like it's good for us yeah so you know a positive that's a positive right okay i'll take
00:05:48.440 that the indo-pacific we had 119 billion dollars import so as you remember the indo-pacific it's
00:05:58.360 upside down completely upside down we had 83 billion exported and we had 198 billion imported
00:06:04.760 that's not that's not good for us no no it's not good for us you know again just the facts right
00:06:11.800 because you know you can get into all these personal you know calling names all this other
00:06:15.640 stuff but you got to look at the numbers right follow the numbers for a while and say okay the
00:06:19.160 indo-pacific now remember india india and canada don't do a lot of trade which we're going to see
00:06:24.120 in a minute i'm going to give you another slide in a minute because i want to take you through it
00:06:27.400 but india and china not a lot of trade um now trade with the united states right was i mentioned
00:06:34.920 all down except for aircraft transportation small electronic parts and uh metal ore right so those
00:06:44.280 are things um so we knew that but it's interesting when we go into europe uh and we take a look at
00:06:50.920 what we exported to europe our exports to europe were up significantly like to we were doing about
00:06:57.800 45 uh billion dollars in trade it was up 62 percent that's 25 versus 24 so we saw a really
00:07:06.600 increase big increase everywhere else truthfully in europe we don't do a tremendous amount of
00:07:13.400 trade and to tell you the truth in germany i was shocked i thought we did more exporting to germany
00:07:20.040 it it's roughly it's less than 10 billion so france italy all those places we don't do a lot of
00:07:27.160 exporting to now from an importing perspective right of course our number one euro ex or importer
00:07:36.760 is from germany where we do about 25 billion dollars so it's the reverse we're bringing a lot
00:07:42.760 of german goods in uh we do a lot of italian goods switzerland the uk is actually low on the
00:07:49.640 pole they're closer to 10 11 billion dollars right so we're not bringing in a lot from uk
00:07:53.800 we're selling to the uk but we're not buying from the uk right so and then you take a look at it and
00:08:00.120 you say okay pretty much everything we're making uh on our exporting list except for uh chemicals
00:08:09.080 and plastics is up so our of course because we are exporting more uh to uh europe right now the
00:08:19.480 in Indo-Pacific I was not shocked as I mentioned that China makes up the biggest exporter that we
00:08:29.160 have roughly 35 billion dollars we export right everyone else like frankly Japan you know they're
00:08:36.840 about 15 billion and then you know everything we make but then quite frankly we have from China
00:08:45.960 directly is 90 billion dollars that we import so we double you know more than double our exports
00:08:54.840 with imports from china and then japan quite frankly we don't buy a lot off of so uh which
00:09:01.160 is striking to me when you consider the automotive market we export to them but we don't so so you
00:09:07.000 know we got it i got it and i say okay that's the tariff climate that's the climate we're in right
00:09:12.840 so we're now getting to this discussion you know where all these sound bites coming at us and they
00:09:17.960 say okay 28 billion dollars you know we're going to get tariff based on the 50 it's going to drop
00:09:23.320 in august and then we get into this counter tariff discussion and that's why i said okay brian i got
00:09:29.320 to get you in right because yeah i knew you'd have a unique perspective on it right i'll have some
00:09:33.720 thoughts you have some thoughts but you know i'm looking at and i'm trying to get my head around
00:09:38.200 okay 700 billion plus you know i mentioned in exporting and importing each we're talking about
00:09:46.200 28 billion dollars the estimates that were you know i was shocked so then you know my mathematical
00:09:52.120 brain you know i'm always kind of trying i know nothing about your mathematical brain
00:09:56.120 well i used to be an accountant years ago right so so then i got in i thought okay
00:10:00.920 they're coming up with these numbers like 90 000 jobs lost and you know they're trying to figure
00:10:06.280 out where they're lost and what industries so i i dug into it and there's a calgary professor that
00:10:11.560 i love following his name is trevor tombay right and i started digging into his research papers
00:10:16.280 and i'm thinking he seems to be the guy doing the math right and there seemed to be using his
00:10:20.760 numbers but his numbers yeah and i'm not knocking him i like his work then they're very on like
00:10:26.120 inexact like it's a basically it's a back of the envelope type guest and he he goes and he says okay
00:10:33.160 Okay, basically, whether it's electronics, plastics, wood, chemicals, agricultural, you know, petro,
00:10:41.920 here's kind of the items that are going to be affected by the 50%.
00:10:45.140 And quite frankly, here's what I think that the percentage export impact is going to be.
00:10:52.600 And then he creates kind of a swag to figure out job loss.
00:10:57.080 And he only comes to 52,000 direct jobs lost.
00:11:01.180 so i you know what i mean and and which is a lot and then he says okay but the offshoot the
00:11:07.500 indirect amount from the services that are provided to these businesses will be another
00:11:12.860 the balance which gets you to 90 right right so you know 38 000 or whatever so that's how he comes
00:11:19.100 to the number so then all of a sudden all over the tv 90 000 jobs lost you know here's the impacts
00:11:26.900 here's where we go be afraid crisis is coming you're going to lose everything groceries are
00:11:31.780 going to go up we're all going to die exactly right right exactly it's too much um i watch
00:11:38.100 this happen all the time every time there's a crisis there's some professor that comes out and
00:11:41.700 granted you might like his work i don't know the man but what i'm going to say is there's always
00:11:45.540 some academic who's never left a university campus and they have a lot to say about things they don't
00:11:52.260 actually know about because they're not in the markets so could we lose a bunch of jobs sure i
00:11:58.340 can say it you can say it i can handicap horses doesn't mean that i'm going to get get it right
00:12:03.460 every time there are guys that handicap football there are sports touts everywhere that come up
00:12:07.460 with a whole bunch of statistics and a formula that says they're going to be right
00:12:12.260 i'm telling you right now if you're a canadian don't believe any of it right only your own eyes
00:12:18.420 and ears are going to lead you to the answer so i don't think first of all that anything is going to
00:12:25.620 happen i don't think on september 8th carney is going to do anything to try and punish the united
00:12:32.420 states with tariffs listen uh it's a i understand right the theory i get it the political and the
00:12:40.020 you know it's interesting because jd van said the same thing remember at the i don't know if you
00:12:45.300 followed it right after but he came out and actually made the same comment he says listen they
00:12:49.780 they came to the table at the last minute they put all these things at the table hey maybe they
00:12:54.260 got by elections happening and they the americans actually threw that on the table he said it he
00:12:59.300 said it he came right out which is interesting you went to where he went uh-huh i didn't know
00:13:04.020 that no i know i know and i didn't want to tell you before the show because i really wanted to
00:13:07.540 talk about it live but it was interesting because i listened to and i thought oh i don't know you
00:13:13.140 know but i thought okay theory i get it i understood it and i'm like and then i i started
00:13:18.500 going down a little different rabbit hole so you know and i talked to you before about it
00:13:23.540 i started looking at kind of what was going on with um the conservatives and them asking uh
00:13:33.780 basically him to come out and disclose the details of the negotiation i remember that i heard about
00:13:42.420 that so polyev and uh measure and all those guys were coming out and they were standing there
00:13:48.980 saying we need to see what you guys negotiated and then all of a sudden back and forth there was all
00:13:54.340 this uh you know name calling everything you know got wwe so as soon as the let's disclose what was
00:14:02.580 talked about happened um there was some you know the jd vance thing about you know the by-elections
00:14:09.300 then all of a sudden it was like wwe right jamal uh jivani came into play jd vance was saying he
00:14:16.740 was the most brilliant one on the negotiation side you know but he's conservative because
00:14:21.780 they went to yell together and then everyone started calling each other names and it got
00:14:26.260 ugly for a couple days right and and that whole wwe scenario kicked into gear which took our eye
00:14:32.820 off the ball which is interesting because then all of a sudden our eye went off the ball and
00:14:37.380 it became about oh thank goodness they're you know they're defending us by having this name calling
00:14:45.540 and i'm like oh that this is odd right like it's a very odd response to to what's happening right
00:14:52.100 and then right away after that we got poll city i love this you know polls you know my
00:14:57.380 polls course so then all of a sudden all these polls started popping up telling us you know
00:15:02.260 canadians want to uh fight you know they they don't want to give concessions so then i started
00:15:09.380 digging into the polls right and i'm kind of going through the abacus poll and i'm going through all
00:15:13.780 these polls and i'm reading them and i'm saying well i don't think that's what the polls are
00:15:18.980 saying i'm remembering you know and i i know valid polls are over a thousand or so people it's a
00:15:25.620 valid poll but these polls are like 14 1500 people right so when you see these polls pop up you know
00:15:31.620 they do them on their own and and quite frankly but like for example the abacus poll was very
00:15:38.260 interesting because it came out and it said 30 36 of canadians uh responded uh want can to respond
00:15:45.060 with new counter terrorists even if it raises prices and risk escalation but 30 percent prefer
00:15:52.260 continue negotiations without new tariffs 18 favor concessions to the united states such as
00:15:59.540 easing dairy restrictions and banning so basically more people wanted us to reach a deal
00:16:06.340 than didn't reach on us to reach a deal so no they didn't really want to fight so when you read
00:16:12.020 the actual polls in the depths of the polls it was very interesting to kind of come and look at them
00:16:17.700 and i think the media is saying we all want to fight i don't know if we all want to fight i
00:16:23.540 think no i think we want to we we want to get along we want to get along but canadians again
00:16:29.380 we've been we're being ginned up by this liberal mindset right now in ottawa that america bad
00:16:36.660 america bad america our largest trading partner bad right every american's bad and tariffs are bad
00:16:43.220 and i don't really fully think that people understand what a tariff is or what benefits
00:16:49.460 it actually has there have been better explanations that have come forward over the past few years so
00:16:54.500 that people can get an understanding of them but if for me i've always kind of been a fan of tariffs
00:17:00.580 i i was not a fan of free trade is it when i was a i was a teenager when free trade first reared its
00:17:06.740 head and i'll never forget it the there was a t-shirt rolling around toronto um that the union
00:17:13.140 had put out and it was basically it was an american eagle mounting a beaver from behind
00:17:19.460 with this nasty look on its face and they were everybody was against free trade at the time right
00:17:24.100 and when it comes to canada in particular we're not a big country so free trade is good for certain
00:17:30.660 things granted but when a country for example like china can get their goods into our country
00:17:39.300 for next to nothing um when we can't litigate on their soil but they can litigate on ours 0.88
00:17:46.980 that's not fair if they want to produce cars and they want to ship their cars and they want to
00:17:51.300 ship their tvs in my attitude is they're flooding our market with cheap goods it's unfair canadians
00:17:58.340 aren't getting the benefit of employment to produce those TVs.
00:18:01.880 So you know what? 0.72
00:18:03.240 Raise tariffs on a country like that.
00:18:05.420 Give them tariffs of eight hundred, nine, a thousand percent.
00:18:09.080 I don't care until you show up at my door and you say, fine,
00:18:13.760 we're sick of the tariffs.
00:18:14.760 We'll build a factory and we'll put two thousand Canadians to work.
00:18:18.200 That's what people are missing about tariffs.
00:18:20.820 They don't understand that they're actually there's a net benefit at times
00:18:25.100 where we could actually be forcing these countries to come to us
00:18:29.680 and to build a factory and to create a job.
00:18:32.840 Your TV isn't the big issue. 0.77
00:18:35.640 A job, making the TV, that's what we want to have here.
00:18:39.380 Right.
00:18:39.880 Well, and it's a good point because, you know,
00:18:42.220 this poll that I'm talking about, Canadians actually, 0.99
00:18:45.840 or this poll shows that 55% of Canada should prepare to move on from Kuzma
00:18:52.660 and build trade relationships with other countries right now that's interesting because
00:18:59.960 when they mean that do they understand the facts this is what and this is why i started with those
00:19:06.640 numbers because when you look at the trade possibilities around the world we're really
00:19:11.500 limited like and i don't i sometimes think as canadians we think oh we're rich in minerals
00:19:16.520 we're rich in this we're rich in that well yeah that's great but you know we have america we have
00:19:23.320 mexico you know we do a little bit of trade with quite frankly and then you saw it you know we do
00:19:30.600 some exporting to the uk we bring a lot of german items in india we don't have a lot of trade with
00:19:37.640 and then there's china right so we don't have a lot of options right like we're not rich in depth
00:19:43.240 we have small trade different places of the world but it's it's not like it's going to grow by 28
00:19:51.400 billion dollars tomorrow right so i think for those people who are thinking okay we can go and
00:19:56.520 do do things in other places remember they have their same issues at home right they have their
00:20:02.120 own supply management their own political issues and what we're seeing through this tariff issue
00:20:07.640 is is where you mentioned and and i don't know if it's by elections so you know that's a theory
00:20:13.480 but i do know that the politics of this are playing into it pretty heavy right you know
00:20:18.600 whether it's the midterms in the us whether it's the by elections in canada now you multiply that
00:20:23.640 by every country around the world that's your trading like that is your trade scenario so you
00:20:29.000 have to plan your trade based on what's going on around the world and you have to hit it
00:20:33.000 at the right time at the right place that's not easy to do right no in any and and then you have
00:20:38.840 to figure out political structures whether it's democratic whether it's socialist whether it's
00:20:44.040 communist those are all factors you gotta and quite frankly very difficult and you're not going
00:20:48.680 to change that on a dime right no at all so that you know i thought it was interesting how people
00:20:53.880 thought that we could just walk away from kuzma and move on and i'm like no it i you know now
00:21:00.600 we've we've offset so i think the you know now you know he's counter tariff you know so we
00:21:07.000 basically took the 500 items that the 50 percent tariff from the us are on we did counter tariffs
00:21:12.840 with a lot of those items to neutralize okay right so they're 28 billion matches are 28 billion or
00:21:19.880 27 billion we then now have stepped to the table and we've put together 7.5 billion dollars in
00:21:26.840 subsidies for people that have been harmed oh great subsidies yeah we've yeah love that yeah
00:21:33.640 love that i got it yeah great now i'm propping up business yeah well yes well we're taking 7.5
00:21:40.200 billion and propping up 28 point uh 28 billion in lost right right uh business lost export right
00:21:49.480 so and then i'm sitting there i'm thinking okay i get it so we've done that okay right a lot of
00:21:55.800 shouting a lot of yelling yeah all right we can still survive right you know there'll be impacts
00:22:02.280 i know you know i i you know when i read these polls i'd like them to pull the people that are
00:22:07.640 in the impacted areas to see how they feel because they bet they wouldn't get the same results right
00:22:13.080 but but they do it across canada and that's the right way to do it but then i'm listening brian
00:22:17.480 and i'm thinking to myself okay um you know they're they're talking about the fact that at
00:22:22.760 the end of the negotiations uh the u.s came to the table and put some trade restrictions with
00:22:29.080 other countries in place right and i'm like okay and but they no one uh no one says who
00:22:36.760 that they wanted to restrict from trade right and i'm like i wonder who it is paul i wonder who it
00:22:42.600 is well we just read who all the who we trade with right so and then i i went to the show we
00:22:49.320 did earlier right and it was on the national defense strategy which is was back in december
00:22:54.680 we read it out we read the whole paper the whole strategy out on the show with respect to the
00:22:59.960 western hemisphere and christoph who's with us today he did it and he did a marvelous job and
00:23:06.280 you know i'm going to remind people because it's very interesting because the you know we said well
00:23:11.080 you know they brought this to the table at the 11th hour i'm like no they didn't right that that's
00:23:16.920 not we just got to go to the white house site read the white house site read the national defense
00:23:22.280 paper from december 2025 and you know part of it so i'll just read it quickly in the western
00:23:29.080 hemisphere and everywhere in the world the united states should make it clear that american goods
00:23:34.440 services and technologies are a far better buy in the long run because we are higher quality
00:23:40.920 and do not come with the same kind of strings as other countries.
00:23:46.120 They said that we will reform our system to expedite approvals and licensing again
00:23:50.840 and make ourselves the partner of choice. The choice all countries should face is whether they
00:23:56.280 want to live in an America-led world of sovereign countries and free economies or a parallel one
00:24:03.480 in which they are influenced by countries on the other side of the world.
00:24:07.480 so they then they go on and they just and they basically say that they are wanting to
00:24:15.640 control flow of goods to secure the western hemisphere from the infiltration of indo-pacific
00:24:25.400 specifically china right so they say that like they're not they don't sugarcoat it they don't 0.53
00:24:30.440 hide it right so how we couldn't and then here's the interesting thing again jd vance comes out
00:24:37.400 in a white house uh report it's the great trans shipment scam um and it's a whole paper that's
00:24:44.120 released by the u.s government which basically talks about uh 40 countries including china that
00:24:51.560 uh have a shadow uh trans shipment network used by china to ship goods into the u.s
00:24:59.480 based on the tariff schemes well that's what canada's for right we're the back door right
00:25:05.000 We know where the back door, the best part about what you just read to me there, what
00:25:09.340 drives me crazy is that the word sovereignty is right there.
00:25:14.300 The second America tries to protect its own sovereignty, God forbid, God forbid they try
00:25:20.140 and do that.
00:25:21.400 God forbid they try and put a little bit of a belt loop around Canada and say, guys,
00:25:25.980 you got to slow down, man.
00:25:26.980 We got to protect our sovereignty here.
00:25:28.780 We're the economic superpower.
00:25:30.100 We're the military superpower.
00:25:31.740 We've got to be, we got to watch what we're doing here.
00:25:34.440 And Canada, at the same time, our sovereignty apparently is more important than America's
00:25:39.240 sovereignty, which I find is BS because we have this giant Kevlar vest south of the border,
00:25:47.600 America.
00:25:48.360 So we can run around and our government, Mark Carney can thump their chest and Doug Ford
00:25:53.440 can say whatever he wants.
00:25:55.040 But the only reason they can say it is because we've got a military below us that allows
00:25:59.900 us to do that.
00:26:00.580 We're never going to be attacked.
00:26:01.740 We take advantage of that.
00:26:02.800 And I think that what's happening here a lot of the time is we're taking the United States for
00:26:08.420 granted in a big, big way. And we should be considering their sovereignty as much as we
00:26:13.160 should be considering our own sovereignty and as much as we want them to consider our sovereignty
00:26:16.900 over French language on milk cartons for crying out loud. All of this stuff is absurd that Carney
00:26:23.260 has been talking about. And I think it's unfair. Like, why can't we be a little bit empathetic to
00:26:29.020 that point of view as well i'm not saying i'm pro-american i'm not saying i'm pro-canadian i'm
00:26:32.860 not saying i'm pro anything i'm just saying on the surface i'm looking at it equally with some
00:26:38.300 level of fiduciary responsibility as a as as the prime minister right why can't i look at that and
00:26:44.620 say yeah they kind of got a point on well the interesting thing and this is you know the trans
00:26:49.900 shipment idea right this was a paper that was put out uh at the beginning of august i think it was
00:26:55.420 the 13th so this is something they they came out and again the national defense strategy the
00:27:03.340 transshipment paper they're all things brian that have been shared with us they're not new
00:27:08.860 philosophies right they you can go to the white the white house website through there right just
00:27:14.380 like our stats are there just for the facts are there of who we trade with all these things are
00:27:19.500 there right and i know we you know the the we get caught up in the emotion of all that i understand
00:27:25.740 that right you know being canadian you know i get caught up in too but then i i step back and i say
00:27:30.860 to myself okay what are the facts in this and what are the what are the numbers support right
00:27:36.620 so now here you know here we are they've said you know we don't want you they i i assume based on
00:27:45.100 the com what they've told us so to date about these negotiations that they step to the table
00:27:50.940 based on the national defense paper and the transitment paper and report they've said to us
00:27:55.820 we don't want you trading and then we don't want you shipping things into canada and shipping to
00:28:00.860 the us under the tariff scenario and we're going to be really hard-ass because we see the numbers
00:28:06.860 in your import export numbers which we just went through so then i'm thinking to myself okay
00:28:12.620 i understand that right i understand their position i might not like it right i might not
00:28:17.740 agree with it but the numbers are the numbers i can't argue the numbers right you know and i can't
00:28:23.820 go through them so and then and then i'm watching so from a canadian perspective i'm sitting here
00:28:28.860 and i'm watching and i'm thinking all right scott besant comes out and he starts talking about
00:28:35.980 you know china and iran and basically sanctions and you know xi jinping is now going to the u.s
00:28:43.980 for the first time in over a decade to meet with trump um you know they're talking about sanctions
00:28:51.020 uh 60 blacklist and shadow uh fleets and the blitz on all the procurement with the u.s and the tankers
00:29:02.140 and all those things so i start reading all that and i'm thinking to myself okay that conversation
00:29:06.300 is going to take place if at the end of the day they lock up so this is the interesting piece that
00:29:12.780 i can't figure out brian because i'm trying to figure out after all this all this smoke
00:29:16.860 is settling and i'm trying to figure out okay could be political which is your theory it could
00:29:23.420 be you know they don't want the chinese uh shipping right and in that case you know if if
00:29:32.700 uh the president goes and they sit down and they can't reach an agreement what happens next right
00:29:40.860 because now we're in this weird conundrum where we've tariffed we've tariffed uh they've tariffed
00:29:46.860 us we've tariffed them we kind of locked up you know he's uh president trump is changing the name
00:29:54.380 of the lake right we've done all this stuff to each other where do we go next because now if the
00:30:02.060 chinese come and they lock up with the americans they won't get out of the iran war to the americans 0.88
00:30:08.300 now shut off and you mentioned it is that the next step right where do they block where's the 0.95
00:30:13.420 blockade where's the sanction because you can't keep tearing i guess you keep tariffing each other
00:30:18.140 i'm not sure it helps trump at this point to tariff anymore right no any more items because
00:30:24.460 quite frankly i'm it hurts him at home he's going into a midterm so then i don't think like honestly
00:30:34.780 that all the posturing that we're watching if terrorists are gonna tariffs again i'm back to
00:30:41.260 my earlier point there it might not be a bad thing we terrorists might actually breed some innovation
00:30:47.900 they might actually get canadians moving again it might actually be it might actually create more
00:30:53.260 business on this side of things we can talk about you know america's going to cut off a flow of
00:30:59.500 oil and gas from iran okay right and then canada will go well we have our own oil and gas and now
00:31:04.220 we're going to cut off the pipelines to you guys we're going to turn off the spigot well you're not
00:31:09.740 because actually if you turn off the spigot you're going to cut off the oil in the pipeline 0.54
00:31:15.420 that goes into america before it comes back up into canada so that's just kind of a dumb idea
00:31:21.340 i don't again i don't think anything's going to happen i think canadians just really need to think
00:31:27.180 about creating opportunities here and to stop relying on countries like china or believing 0.92
00:31:33.980 that they're going to act fairly with us and or tariffing them fairly because it's it's not right
00:31:40.860 our biggest trading partner has always been the united states of america so why aren't we
00:31:44.860 fostering this relationship why are we constantly pushing back even you just cited the numbers the 0.73
00:31:51.340 majority of our trade is there what why are we being jerks about everything why don't we just 0.95
00:31:58.380 go to the table what our lumber is being tariffed okay can we find a way around it can we stop 1.00
00:32:05.900 saying orange man bad we don't like trump he's stupid america's dumb they hate us we hate them 1.00
00:32:12.620 back even harder i i'm just i don't think that there's a lot of common sense right now and i 1.00
00:32:21.340 don't think that these people that govern us are actually very good at negotiating i think they go
00:32:27.340 there and when you go into a negotiation in a traditional business you walk into a boardroom
00:32:32.940 quite often you shut a door or it could be a construction trailer i'll use that analogy
00:32:37.100 you shut the door you say meeting in progress and you sit in there and you battle it out and when
00:32:41.980 you come out of that meeting nobody knows what you talked about they just know that the matter is
00:32:47.260 resolved now government should be a little more transparent with us i said this the last show
00:32:51.660 that we did that they think we're unsophisticated and we don't understand what's going on and 0.98
00:32:56.060 you know the canadian people you can't handle the truth and they play this game on us over 0.99
00:33:01.020 and over again but by and large canadians the voting canadians um they've got to understand
00:33:07.660 that these battles are going to result in nothing these statements are going to result in nothing
00:33:15.340 other than to gin up hatred towards america i don't know why we're doing it i don't think
00:33:20.460 trump's out to hurt us i don't think america is out to hurt us i think that's just a lot
00:33:25.580 of posturing and it's hurting all of us it's filling canadians with so much anger and angst
00:33:33.660 and uncertainty we haven't had a certain statement come out of government other than we're facing a
00:33:39.500 crisis i can i can tell you with all certainty that that's all you're going to hear out of the
00:33:43.660 canadian government no matter which one it is we have a crisis and i don't think that's fair to us
00:33:49.580 but we shouldn't be scared of america we should be working really hard to be their friend because
00:33:54.460 they are our friend right no no i'm with you and we have been for years right and you know for
00:34:00.460 decades centuries but i get it but you know uh we're kind of at this weird inflection point
00:34:08.780 where what's going to happen in america could potentially happen to what happens in canada
00:34:13.420 and what i mean by that is you know by and i and i look at the two i'm you know i know you had the
00:34:19.820 uh political consequences of the by elections at home i've kind of looked at on the global basis
00:34:26.620 saying if if he can't figure out iran and he can't get the chinese to back off and not support anymore
00:34:33.740 and he has to shut off uh the chinese from trade so that you know that means the panama canal or
00:34:40.620 whatever then they've talked about it remember that was the discussion this discussion of the
00:34:44.940 panama canal happened uh months ago right yeah that was uh came on the table that they didn't
00:34:50.940 like the chinese influence in the panama canal and that kind of died down and then he went on
00:34:55.900 and you know he went to greenland then he went a couple other places and we've all forgot about it
00:34:59.980 but now he you know they're sitting there and we're looking at it and thinking okay so now if
00:35:03.740 the americans decide to you know uh cut china off from canada well from north america okay right let's
00:35:11.980 look at north america so then that has consequences right so then that has consequences to us so
00:35:17.660 i think we have to kind of look on a strategic basis sort of what are the potential outcomes
00:35:23.100 and be careful sort of how we play the next card because if we play it wrong quite frankly and that
00:35:29.420 goes it's it's not going to go well for us because who are we going to trade with at that point and
00:35:33.580 and that's why i wanted to go through the numbers right i wanted to really drill into the numbers
00:35:37.500 so people actually think through okay here's our landscape right it's a little more complicated than
00:35:42.540 i i don't like them or i like them it's okay here's here's what i mean in any business whether
00:35:47.500 it be government and then i know you can't treat government like a business but you can treat it
00:35:51.340 more business-like you know you got to look at your potential risks and i'm looking at this now
00:35:56.780 i'm thinking okay if this happens this is a risk if this happens this is a risk you know
00:36:03.020 is it best for us to just calm our heads prevail now let us move forward right see what happens
00:36:11.900 with that negotiation because that negotiation is going to come next right and then what comes
00:36:17.180 out of that and what are the fallout of that negotiation because then then and i think right
00:36:22.940 now you know it's interesting because uh a lot of uh again i i refer to jd vance because he's been
00:36:31.100 doing a lot of the speaking on this lately they're moving on yeah he said we're done and uh jameson
00:36:36.700 greer probably said it but jameson greer came out and he just said we're done you know negotiations
00:36:43.900 pardon me aren't moving forward right now we're moving on to other things so i think what he means
00:36:49.900 is they're moving on to that issue right and so that issue will dictate kind of and they're seeing
00:36:54.540 it sequentially from their side i think we have to look at it that way our from our side now right
00:37:00.300 and stop yeah yeah stop the rhetoric kind of calm down let's see what happens out of that and then
00:37:06.060 we can figure out what happens next i think though that one thing we have to consider as well the
00:37:10.700 longer these negotiations go on with the united states the more leverage they gain in these talks
00:37:18.300 the longer we try and hold out and pretend that we matter right the more leverage the states is
00:37:24.940 going to have so i think it would be best for the canadian government to get to act quickly to settle
00:37:31.900 everything so that we know that we're secure with our trading partner in the united states
00:37:37.100 aside from everything else that's going on in the world if we don't if we don't get this issue
00:37:42.940 negotiated deal signed so that we're secure here between these two countries and mexico for
00:37:50.940 instance i mean this is a very strong trading block so why wouldn't we try and get this settled
00:37:55.260 down well that was you know and on previous shows i brought this up and i couldn't understand
00:37:59.980 you know the strategy i know they were trying to get through the midterms i get that right
00:38:03.820 so they were trying as canadians i think uh politically we were trying to get through the
00:38:09.180 midterms to figure kuzma and i said it previously i he wasn't going to let that happen right so the
00:38:16.780 50 percent terrorists forcing us back to the table all that was kind of strategically on their side
00:38:22.780 to say so you know they're they're you know they're gauging their time and they're putting
00:38:28.060 their milestones in place you can see it now so it's no you know if if anyone who's watching can
00:38:34.940 figure out how they're playing this now like this yeah it's not so i guess brian you know where i
00:38:41.580 where i left on all this and you know whether it's politics and the personalities i know you've
00:38:46.220 mentioned i'm at the point where quite frankly i my belief on this is whatever's going on right
00:38:56.060 we're not privy to at this point so we're not they haven't shared it with us no what the personal
00:39:01.900 agendas are and what the uh the country agendas are we don't know quite frankly that's the thing
00:39:08.380 we do know at this point because quite frankly one thing we know that they don't want us to know
00:39:12.540 yeah so we know it's not strictly about tariffs so i think what we've kind of come in my mind
00:39:18.620 right where i'm kind of sitting now having watched all this tariffs are part of it but it's not the
00:39:25.340 whole part of it right there's something else going on behind the scenes that they're they're
00:39:30.620 they're dealing with right army whether it's globally or whether it's uh i don't know
00:39:38.300 i can't i couldn't put on my tinfoil hat and start to guess what their personal agendas are
00:39:43.700 i don't like to do that i've shared that with you before you know because i think you know i don't
00:39:50.080 understand why some of them are even in the negotiations but you know i look at it and i
00:39:55.860 think to myself i kind of come to the conclusion that whatever we're going through has nothing to
00:40:03.240 do with what we're going through it wouldn't surprise me kabuki theater we've talked about
00:40:08.000 before yeah that's i mean that's the nature of government nowadays it's very easy for them to
00:40:13.360 manipulate everything that's going on with youtube and twitter and whatever other social media so
00:40:20.160 there's so much misinformation that we don't know what the real information is and reporting isn't
00:40:24.160 what it used to be so we don't really have reporters because they just get their information
00:40:27.520 off of twitter there's no investigative reporting anymore like there used to be so they're hiding
00:40:33.920 a lot of stuff and we just don't know what it is well it's no facts right so you know no facts
00:40:38.880 yeah good point yeah so like probably what we've just done in this you know hour we're together
00:40:44.880 by sharing some of the actual facts right off against from the web government websites of both
00:40:50.800 governments i'm just talking about and saying okay here's the facts here's what it here's what the
00:40:56.720 world looks like today is probably more than anyone's talked about in the last two weeks
00:41:02.640 because no media has dug into any of it none none but they you know they wait for someone to do a
00:41:08.080 soundbite where they call each other a name and they have a big deal right they do a poll about
00:41:12.320 whether or not you know we're happy that happened or something like it's just it's very surface
00:41:17.680 well the fact that the fact that independent media can go on to the you know whitehouse.gov
00:41:26.960 and find a bunch of information in minutes and then put a show out on it like you just did here
00:41:33.360 that is fascinating to me because no mainstream media outlet is doing it it's only independent
00:41:39.600 media and i'm not this isn't a plug no i know that right but everywhere i go the tinfoil hat
00:41:45.840 crowd are the ones that are actually going to usdepartment.gov they're going to the canadian
00:41:51.120 government websites they're going to like i it doesn't us department of justice.gov that you
00:41:57.040 can go to any of these sites yourself and look it up but our press won't do it and they won't tell
00:42:03.120 us and our government doesn't encourage it we're just supposed to listen what they have to say
00:42:07.280 because we've only got a 15 second attention span right welcome to tick tock politics and then it
00:42:12.000 just loops over and over and and you know that was the thing over the weekend that kind of got me
00:42:16.240 because you know as i was moving along i'd come back and forth the tv beyond the same loop the
00:42:21.440 same loop the same loop and it sure it sure seemed very well placed that we got the same loop for
00:42:29.440 48 hours right a critical issue now it's interesting because you know uh the opposition
00:42:35.680 did come out and say we should go back to the you know we should recall government
00:42:40.960 see to sit again and try to figure out solutions right that's not in the cards no one's actually
00:42:46.800 addressed that so you know so we we move into this end of the week right we we've seen a bunch
00:42:54.480 of name calling we've seen a bunch of infighting we've seen counter tariffs who knows what's seen
00:43:00.160 anymore we're waiting for what's going to happen on the global scene and the only thing we really
00:43:05.920 got was i think most people at this point are kind of coming to the conclusion you know you have the
00:43:12.400 honestly there's the crew that actually is following it like wwe right and quite frankly i
00:43:17.680 don't know how bright that crew is but they are and they just like the name calling and the in
00:43:23.520 fighting and then there's a group of people that i'm when i talk to them they're like oh there's
00:43:28.320 something else going on so i think brian you know we wait but you know i hope i hope you know i hope
00:43:35.360 it's not about by-elections i hope it's not about personalities and the last thing i hope for is i
00:43:41.680 hope at some point they just come out and tell us what they're doing yeah and i hope it's not just
00:43:46.720 about power that's what concerns me that's is it about just i want to be in power i must have the
00:43:54.640 upper hand right i must show that i'm tougher than i just i just want resolution right it's not hard
00:44:01.520 to do lawyers do it in court every day they find an agreement they make it work we need to run the
00:44:06.080 the country the same way. Yeah, I agree.