True Patriot Love - September 18, 2026


Canada’s Crime Problem Is Getting Harder to Ignore

Carney’s $1 Trillion Bet: Plan or Political Theater?

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00:00:00.000 In order to have a successful society, and a successful society means commerce and business and economy, people need to safely commute from place to place to work, right?
00:00:11.340 Absolutely.
00:00:11.960 When you start allowing all these things to happen, what you're doing is you're stopping that, right?
00:00:17.120 So people decide they don't want to take that risk.
00:00:20.620 They don't want to enter that environment.
00:00:22.820 And I understand why they don't, quite frankly, because it's traumatic.
00:00:30.720 In the 1990s, there was a really good movie with Clint Eastwood and John Malkovich called
00:00:35.600 In the Line of Fire about an individual who threatens the U.S. President and Clint Eastwood
00:00:40.800 in the Secret Service who hunt him down. Well, here we are in 2026 and a similar thing has
00:00:45.680 happened right here in Canada, Paul Micucci. Yeah, on YouTube. Crazy. Yeah, I know. I saw it
00:00:51.200 actually. Talk about not trying to hide your crime. Yeah, yeah. Uttering threats against the
00:00:56.140 prime minister in this day and age on YouTube, and quite frankly, in the middle of everything
00:01:01.900 that's going on. Talk about being on the wrong side of it, right? And just for clarification,
00:01:08.260 when you're a world leader, a prime minister or president is considered an internationally
00:01:13.620 protected person. The threshold for investigating online speech is very strict. This highlights
00:01:21.380 a serious legal boundary between criticizing him and a criminal threat you could criticize him all
00:01:26.820 day yeah but to threaten him physically you've committed a crime yeah and uh this this gentleman
00:01:33.060 or person has been charged uh you know with section 264.1 yeah of the criminal code for
00:01:40.500 uttering a threat of cause of death and now he's in custody uh until his court appearance and you
00:01:48.020 You know what, Paul, this highlights something that the Toronto International Film Festival is going on right now.
00:01:53.760 Yeah, lots going on.
00:01:54.700 And they roll up in these big SUVs with bodyguards.
00:01:58.380 And a lot of people ask, well, why would Seth Rogen need a bodyguard?
00:02:01.900 Why would, you know, so-and-so need a bodyguard?
00:02:04.380 Unfortunately, there is a fringe element who's against celebrities, against politicians, against athletes, against wealthy people.
00:02:11.800 And sometimes they have to have that.
00:02:14.200 Well, I don't know if you noticed, but the investment summit was also, you know, the 14th, 15th, and there was quite a bit of protesting against billionaires.
00:02:22.920 Because they feel they're evil.
00:02:24.360 Right. No, but I thought that was interesting.
00:02:26.600 So, you know, I was passing, and I saw all the people with the signs and everything, you know, and it was quite a few people.
00:02:33.620 I was actually shocked the amount of people that protested this.
00:02:37.380 you know i i get their comments but quite frankly i don't know if i would spend the time to make a
00:02:42.840 sign go down there run around because you have a business and you're busy yeah you know what i mean
00:02:47.440 like you gotta have a lot of time you gotta have a lot of time to be or can i say something to you
00:02:53.340 yeah someone has to be kind of putting you up to it there's got to be something one one thing or
00:02:58.320 another but it does seem a little odd that quite frankly a group of that many people got together
00:03:04.340 in a place at that time at that time and actually put them up in the air and marched around now
00:03:10.700 like that that does take some really i agree a lot of coordination right and paul there is some
00:03:16.540 evidence in the last four or five years of times when there has been oh yeah protests that have
00:03:23.000 been funded that they're there we have evidence of this yeah but to go as this gentleman from
00:03:28.520 calgary did to go on youtube um his mental stability comes into question yeah that you
00:03:36.340 would do this i mean there's not much more public than posting it on your phone and youtube it's
00:03:41.920 that's like a tv channel now yeah and i mean there are certain things you can and cannot do
00:03:47.600 and we see this all the time with politicians like you see captains of industry and that
00:03:52.840 I have covered events where ex-military members in plain clothes were standing nearby because they were standing 10, 15 feet away as protection for the individual, whether they were a CEO or an athlete or a broadcaster or whatnot, because unfortunately they need the protection.
00:04:11.080 Yeah. Well, you know, we say this on the show all the time, Jim. You know, in a democratic society, people's rights to have different views and to pick a leader through a democratic voting system is what makes this country so special, quite frankly.
00:04:27.480 That's why we started the channel.
00:04:28.780 And when we do pick a leader, like what they do every day or not, that is our leader, right?
00:04:35.540 Right.
00:04:36.040 So, you know, again, when this happens, it just, it breaks my heart because it's totally, you know, someone who's gone off the rails.
00:04:43.780 And the individual remains in custody during his arrest, and there's multiple sources about that.
00:04:49.260 Now, this is a different kind of crime, but it's a video that has gone viral, not just in Canada,
00:04:56.060 But now it's gone viral in other parts of social media around the world.
00:04:59.980 A group of teenage girls in early September were vaping, drinking, and allegedly assaulting an elderly couple who were on the upper level of the GO train.
00:05:09.680 Now, if you had never been in the GO train in Ontario, there's two levels, an upper level and a lower level.
00:05:14.520 And you can see, if you're lower, you can see the people upper and vice versa.
00:05:19.120 a good Samaritan tried to intervene to ask for a little respect,
00:05:22.360 and then the situation exploded even further
00:05:25.380 when they calmly said, hey, just dial it down
00:05:27.580 and leave these people alone.
00:05:29.060 Yeah, yeah, it's so sad.
00:05:31.060 You know, Jim, I spent an early part of my career
00:05:33.740 working down on Bay Street.
00:05:36.380 Yes.
00:05:36.760 And I used to take the GO train back and forth every day,
00:05:39.600 you know, on the top level and on the bottom level.
00:05:42.320 You know, you didn't, you know, I'm showing my age a little bit,
00:05:45.140 but you didn't see that happen, you know,
00:05:47.880 and this is something now um when i take the subway when i take the go now i'm noticing more
00:05:53.640 and more these incidents whether it's whether it's you know homeless people bent over you know
00:05:59.540 from drug abuse whether it's people fighting and yelling at each other and it makes it so
00:06:04.920 uncomfortable to take it so you know and in this day and age here's here's the the thing that i
00:06:11.340 think people need to kind of come to grips with in order to have a successful society and a
00:06:16.700 successful society means commerce and business and economy people need to safely commute from
00:06:22.720 place to place to work right absolutely when you start allowing all these things to happen what
00:06:28.620 you're doing is you're you're stopping that right so people decide they don't want to take that risk
00:06:34.420 they don't want to enter that environment and i understand why they don't quite frankly because
00:06:38.980 it's traumatic you know you watch that video online it's rough it's well it's rough and quite
00:06:45.480 frankly you're thinking yourself i don't want to be there what would i do what would i do you know
00:06:49.720 i can't you can't have not gonna punch a bunch of teenage girls you can't have an altercation you
00:06:55.480 can't get involved you don't want to be on videos the reason you don't want to be on video quite
00:07:00.280 frankly is you don't want everyone who knows you to see in the middle of a yelling and with a bunch
00:07:05.160 of uh incoherent probably intoxicated young people uh yelling at an elderly woman it's it's a bad
00:07:12.280 seen all around right for everyone and you wonder why you mentioned to me before the show jim why
00:07:19.000 they don't understand that see that's where yeah i kind of come to grips i'm like okay you're on
00:07:23.000 social media all the time you must everything's on social media right right you must now know
00:07:28.520 that you're being recorded so you know this is going to stay in the archives for most of your
00:07:37.880 life now or all your life quite frankly i guess as you get older they won't recognize you but quite
00:07:43.480 frankly now the i think the go train police are involved the police are involved so if this comes
00:07:51.960 down to a point in time where you get charged now your future is now going to be altered by the fact
00:07:59.560 that you had a yelling and screaming match on a go train with an elderly couple that can't be good
00:08:06.600 for it now the it notes because they're minors yeah the identities are protected of course under
00:08:12.760 canada's youth criminal justice act however right you're a business person you have people apply for
00:08:19.800 jobs for you all the time one of the first things hr is search their social media oh 100 100
00:08:26.680 i don't know a job but doesn't do that yeah oh no i had recently had someone come in in one of
00:08:31.320 the businesses and quite frankly their resume didn't match their social profile so when we
00:08:38.040 actually went and took a look at who they were and everything they weren't even the person they
00:08:41.880 were saying they were because when we got them we took a little you know you could see who they were
00:08:46.760 and could see who they were saying they were they weren't they didn't match and we found that out
00:08:50.920 on social and we shut the we shut the interview down um right away because you know it wasn't a
00:08:57.560 legitimate resume and there's almost guaranteed that these young women who are entering adulthood
00:09:03.720 will be looking for a job right and then someone in hr maybe doesn't know their name but goes that
00:09:09.720 face looks familiar and calls up the video and looks at the resume and go oh wait a sec this 0.97
00:09:15.560 was one of the girls that you know that's an easy x on the because every job now has hundreds of 1.00
00:09:22.280 applicants well think about it so everyone who knows those ladies or girls are going to actually
00:09:29.560 do a post about them because they actually know their real name so right so right that's good
00:09:35.140 they're going to be outed whether criminally or not they're going to be outed for the behavior
00:09:39.560 um now layer on on top that i mentioned years ago you didn't see that only for my own personal
00:09:46.700 family would i be horrified to do that quite frankly because the ramifications of going home
00:09:52.060 for sunday dinner papa macucci sees that video that's not going to go over well for you is it
00:09:56.020 no no well more so my mom oh yeah yeah the wooden spoon little scottish lady you know what i mean
00:10:01.480 like there's no way that i was going to survive that dinner right because and that torment would
00:10:07.420 would have happened for years right that would have been every time i went they would have
00:10:11.080 reminded me of that so there's no way i want i wouldn't want to live through that okay so i'll 0.62
00:10:16.320 be fully honest here when i was a teenager in my early 20s i did a lot of stupid things yeah however 0.95
00:10:23.600 of course i usually did it with my buddies we were we were jackasses but we were jackasses together 0.96
00:10:29.600 but at the same time we didn't be a jackass to an elderly couple sitting a next section over we just 0.88
00:10:36.800 did it within each other do you know what i mean yeah yeah we didn't think to start harassing them
00:10:41.200 and verbally abusing them no no and you know and i always in my kids i've always told them when i
00:10:47.120 was younger i always had everything some every time i felt something was getting out of control
00:10:51.760 whether it be a party an event or whatever i was attending i was gone right right yeah the spidey
00:10:57.360 sense right buddy sense i had a good spidey sense that i'd be like okay this is going to get out of
00:11:01.440 control soon i don't want to be part of it i'm done and i'd say you know i'd say i'm taking a
00:11:05.520 rain check everyone i'm out and i'd be gone right and they'd always laugh they'd say next morning
00:11:09.760 oh you missed it i'm like oh good i'm happy i missed it you know like in that case quite frankly
00:11:16.720 the girls that didn't want to be part of that when the train stopped at one of those stops
00:11:20.960 they should have been gone but they all seem in the video it didn't seem that anyone not wanted
00:11:25.360 to be part of it now here's the thing it's mentioned in the story but yes the girls were
00:11:30.160 drinking they say vodka from a bottle but vaping in the train vestibule and yes marijuana is retro
00:11:37.920 recreational marijuana is legal in this country totally fine with it i don't care you do you
00:11:42.560 but we're seeing so many videos and so many stories paul on transit from coast to coast
00:11:47.920 of people smoking drugs and vaping on the transit no one's saying you can't do it but you're in a
00:11:54.080 steel tube with families and kids and elderly can't you wait to get off before you you vape
00:12:00.320 or smoke your joint but i agree with you and and i know they didn't want to press when i read the
00:12:05.680 story they didn't want to press the uh emergency uh yes because they didn't want to get trapped
00:12:11.200 on the train with so they didn't want to because there's a weight to get help exactly but there's
00:12:16.960 got to be a faster a faster uh attendance time faster reaction time if something's going down
00:12:24.720 because again jim you know if we're going to keep commerce economy and the world going and transit
00:12:29.120 moving we need to be able to protect people as they are moving right and yeah you know it's
00:12:34.080 interesting in other countries you know you go to you go down into the subway or you go down to the
00:12:40.240 train system they're actually armed people with bulletproof vests who are moving rapidly if
00:12:46.000 something goes down so people they don't mess around in those cities paul no you know that
00:12:50.240 you've traveled they do not mess around you know and whether you're when you go to europe and you
00:12:54.160 go into the tube quite frankly as you're going through the turnstiles there's someone packing
00:12:59.520 some pretty heavy heat looking at you and then on the platform too exactly so you know i'm not saying
00:13:04.960 we have to do the full enchilada but i think we need a bit uh version of that because if we're
00:13:10.560 gonna you know i know we we think about that we had some of the most the wealthiest um biggest
00:13:17.040 investors in the world then correct and at the same roughly at the same time still incidents are
00:13:23.120 happening right so this isn't a good look for people who who want to invest uh in the country
00:13:28.400 this next story is one of the more heartbreaking crime stories that's happened in toronto
00:13:34.560 in the last 20 years now on day one of the as you say the world's largest investors and hedge funds
00:13:40.400 gathered in toronto with mark carney this breaks my heart a 17 year old boy was fatally shot in
00:13:47.760 broad daylight just after 3 30 near a bus shelter in the area jane and finch in the west northwest
00:13:53.840 end of toronto um i this is heart absolutely crushing heartbreaking the crime by all accounts
00:14:02.480 the kid was well liked in school and this is not just another murder in toronto not at all
00:14:08.720 yeah grade 12 student who played the piano and frequented after school programs my heart breaks
00:14:14.960 jim and just you know and a daylight shooting at jane and finch you know we talk about jane
00:14:21.680 finch you know this is the this is the terrible part we all know it we all have these conversations
00:14:27.440 but yet what are we doing like what are we doing at some point we want to talk paul a lot of talk
00:14:33.600 at some point we have to figure this out because it just goes on and on and i think the people who
00:14:39.840 assembled you know the to put the memorial and you know uh start to grieve over this this young man
00:14:47.680 you know they were saying that but what can they do right his his mother and his family are all
00:14:54.720 there but what what can they do right and the and the issue is we need to kind of take some really
00:15:00.800 active action steps to get in the community to get guns out of the community to stop all this
00:15:05.760 but we're not doing it right we're not we're not making progress on this we're just we're spinning
00:15:10.720 our wheels again and there's there's you know when we do these shows whether i'm doing them
00:15:15.360 them with you jim or i'm doing them with mike yeah you know we're having a similar conversation
00:15:19.440 about uh bc we're having a similar conversation about uh montreal where like it doesn't stop
00:15:28.000 right no each of these each of these cities and areas has a town or a municipality quite frankly
00:15:33.780 that it has this issue going on constantly and we know it but yet we sit back we say well
00:15:41.700 you know not in my backyard i'm okay with it leave it over there and all i'll do is i'll make
00:15:47.800 sure i i'll drive around it and i won't go into in this case the jane the jane and finch quarter
00:15:53.440 so truthfully and i'm i'm uh guilty of this as much as anyone i know not to go into the jane
00:16:01.400 and finch quarter at night right and i don't and every neighborhood there's a city major cities in
00:16:07.160 canada there are pockets every city now that you don't go at night i think that's right that's right
00:16:13.400 i think we can all admit that there's parts of this of every major city from coast to coast
00:16:18.160 neighborhoods or a couple block area that even the police say what are you doing there go away
00:16:23.720 but by doing that it's not happening at night anymore no it's happening at three in the afternoon
00:16:28.560 right i mean so here's the average canadian and i agree with everything you just said paul like
00:16:35.120 a thousand percent the average canadian is i think pretty supportive of the government understands
00:16:42.960 you know we're not lock everybody up blah blah blah however the police have not identified any
00:16:49.200 suspect but i would think most canadians if it turns out it's a teenager who did this shooting
00:16:56.560 they should be tried as an adult based on the the seriousness of the crime oh the time of day
00:17:02.400 had happened the randomness of it if they're if they're actually tried and convicted as an adult
00:17:09.140 because that's an adult crime that just happened oh yeah an adult consequence should result in it
00:17:15.000 and maybe just maybe that gives people pause because i think about this crime and i think
00:17:21.300 about what happened in the go train too many young people in this country 14 15 16 feel that they can
00:17:28.940 do anything and they won't have any real serious consequences no no i agree and take that a step
00:17:36.380 further which we we say frequently on the shows we do on crime jim you know back go back how did
00:17:43.440 they get the gun who gave them the gun right these are these these are kids right right these are
00:17:48.000 these are you know this i'm sure you know we don't know who it is at but i'm sure when they find out
00:17:53.860 but I'm pretty certain it's going to be a young offender
00:17:57.140 because it usually is.
00:17:59.620 And so, quite frankly, these are kids who get access
00:18:03.280 to high-powered weapons while moving through life,
00:18:07.760 and they've got to be getting them somewhere
00:18:09.420 and tracking back, and that...
00:18:11.460 I totally agree.
00:18:12.600 And even if it's a, quote-unquote, adult,
00:18:15.620 most of the guns you hear about using these crimes
00:18:17.920 are not a gun any Canadian can buy.
00:18:20.940 Yeah, exactly.
00:18:21.420 They're smuggled from the States.
00:18:22.920 they're illegal guns yeah yes the person involved in the crime but let's take it you say where did
00:18:29.960 you get it from who like let's start really dropping the hammer on the people smuggling
00:18:34.360 these death weapons into the country yeah you have a you have a 25 year sentence right you get five
00:18:40.520 years off if you can actually let me know where you got the gun you want an extra five years off
00:18:45.720 we'll get a conviction so we'll get you down to 15 years but quite frankly you got to work with
00:18:50.440 us to get there so but you got to put these processes in place right then they're not right
00:18:54.840 now that's the frustrating thing you know we you know whether it's repeat offenders no jail and
00:19:00.920 bail you know uh no uh monetary uh bail you know all these things that are happening we keep seeing
00:19:09.560 it um but we gotta be able to track back and you know paul the heartbreaking thing about it is if
00:19:15.000 If you talk to rank-and-file men and women in the police,
00:19:19.120 the veterans who are there every day who are dealing with the fallout
00:19:22.400 and the aftermath of this, they are pulling their hair out,
00:19:25.000 and they'll tell you publicly and privately
00:19:27.460 that over 95% of the guns used in these crimes are illegal.
00:19:32.080 Oh, yeah, 100%.
00:19:33.140 And they're like, they're begging for help.
00:19:35.400 And you wonder why a lot of police officers eventually,
00:19:39.220 as soon as they're pinched and ineligible, tap out,
00:19:41.580 because the mental strain, I can't even imagine.
00:19:44.480 No, no, not now.
00:19:45.980 You know, think about it.
00:19:47.240 Think about your own kids.
00:19:48.160 If they came to you and asked if, you know, they could be a police officer.
00:19:51.500 You'd be like, geez, are you sure about that?
00:19:53.420 Yeah, you would be trying to convince them otherwise.
00:19:56.120 No, this is a story that is kind of shocking, but it leads into the next story.
00:20:02.700 Yeah.
00:20:02.860 We have a couple of so-called white-collar scam stories.
00:20:07.400 I always put a couple of these in the shows.
00:20:09.020 A 25-year-old former licensed insurance broker from Mississauga was arrested by Peel Regional Police for allegedly running a rogue auto insurance scam.
00:20:19.580 Authorities allege that in a one-year period, a year-and-a-half period, I should say, the individual uses industry knowledge to create complex, legitimate-looking corporate proof-of-insurance documents.
00:20:31.300 He sold entirely fictional policies to unsuspecting drivers across the GTA and pocketed the premiums.
00:20:39.320 Police have identified 15 incidents with over $10,000 in losses, but they suspect there's many more victims.
00:20:45.820 The poor people thought they had real insurance.
00:20:48.400 Well, imagine if they had an accident and they weren't insured.
00:20:51.340 Like, imagine the financial risk.
00:20:52.900 No, I can't.
00:20:53.780 That's what caught my attention.
00:20:54.840 So, you know, again, it's a 25-year-old, not a kid.
00:20:59.960 no 25 years no no that's not a kid right so makes an active decision to sell now um you know you buy
00:21:09.180 insurance i buy insurance my insurance broker is someone i've known for years same oh we've had
00:21:15.280 the same broker for 22 years right so there's usually a personal connection so i was thinking
00:21:19.900 about this before the show and i thought man i would be feel i would be totally pissed if ed
00:21:26.220 my insurance broker duped me on fake insurance and then i went out and got into a collision where i
00:21:33.580 totaled the car of the other person god forbid the other person got hurt and and i didn't have
00:21:40.460 insurance well the police actually say it could lead to what they say massive financial ruin if
00:21:46.620 they get into an accident with fake insurance that they thought was real well yeah so ramifications
00:21:52.300 are horrible so you know i'm gonna use ed sorry ed but i'm gonna use because no one knows who it is
00:21:59.100 so go ahead but you know ed tells me fake insurance i go out and i get into an accident
00:22:04.300 i get sued i don't have enough uh i have to put my house my assets up because quite frankly the
00:22:12.220 person who got injured is not responsible for me and ed not having the proper insurance in place
00:22:21.100 i don't have much of a leg to stand on in that so so now this 25 year old who's
00:22:27.740 say for whatever reasons tens of thousands of dollars they got away with right you know
00:22:34.380 then how do they get penalized jim how do you how do you they did they do jail time
00:22:41.260 if they're charged right yeah if they're charged so then you send them away so
00:22:45.820 So this is an interesting part.
00:22:49.120 When the judge looks at this and he says, okay, what's the value of the crime?
00:22:57.020 They're going to say, well, you know, he sold insurance and he pocketed X amount, right?
00:23:01.820 Use a figure for all purposes.
00:23:03.620 Say it's $30,000.
00:23:04.840 He pocketed Thursday.
00:23:05.960 Okay, well, $30,000 crime, you know, it's not going to be that heavy a sentence, right?
00:23:11.120 But I think they got to do it the other way.
00:23:12.680 i think they have to go look at the number of policies that were provided go to an actuary
00:23:18.440 and figure out the likelihood that one of them would get in and what the value of the potential
00:23:22.680 claim was and do the prison sentence best on the theft based on the potential claim loss
00:23:28.600 and then then i think that's your scare tactic scare attack yeah to stop someone from doing
00:23:33.800 this again because it goes from four years to 15 years but paul let's be honest this
00:23:41.240 individuals probably a first offender yeah no jail likely probation with conditions let's be
00:23:47.880 honest this is what this would happen yeah and probably restitution where they have to pay back
00:23:52.280 the victims but the victims immediately as the police say are urging all the consumers who think
00:23:57.800 they were scammed verify that policy don't like they i know it's just thinking about it because
00:24:04.200 if they like they're saying look even though you got scammed if you're on the highways of canada
00:24:09.560 get in an accident and you don't have valid insurance the the possibilities are how much
00:24:15.800 money you have to pay out are endless oh yeah no it's terrible it's terrible uh i can't even start
00:24:21.640 and you know it led me to the next one jim yeah this is a great one yeah this is this is uh
00:24:28.520 so this happened in rosedale okay so for people watching who don't understand
00:24:34.280 rosedale is among it's mount royal montreal north vancouver it's one of the most if not one of the
00:24:41.560 most affluent neighbor neighborhoods in the entire country yeah we're talking some of the wealthiest
00:24:47.560 people wealthiest homes in the country yeah so you know i'm going to walk you through this because
00:24:53.000 they're still hunting for four men right uh and you know as of today i don't think they still have
00:24:59.640 them but uh a suspect approached a homeowner near mount pleasant road and elm avenue posing as a
00:25:05.560 corporate fired investigator he claimed the homeowner was a victim of a previous scam and
00:25:10.920 offered free repairs with a promise of reimbursement right so you know i'm an investigator i'm here
00:25:19.480 um the suspect later demanded upfront payment and the homeowner refused and then days later
00:25:26.280 three accomplices returned they trespassed on the property and damaged the roof and fence
00:25:32.680 so it's not a door-to-door scam because they were damaging the roof and also trying to act
00:25:39.640 as the investigator to find a person that damaged the roof so they were kind of doing a double end
00:25:44.440 on it um you know we see uh construction scams all the time right so they get deposits and they
00:25:52.920 disappear it's quite common and you hear it happen on my street uh with neighbors with a a driveway
00:25:58.600 paving scam and when they realized it was a bad job they called the number was they disappeared
00:26:04.200 so this guy shows up it's it's it's reverse he shows up as an investigator says your roof is
00:26:09.880 damaged he's going to go find the guys who make them pay did damage the roof then basically he
00:26:17.800 comes back he makes sure your roof is damaged and and basically tries to get your money back it's
00:26:23.720 actually a terrible uh manipulation of probably seniors well toronto police services their words
00:26:30.600 were highly coordinated fraud and mischief investigation uh a concerning escalation of
00:26:36.600 predatory scams targeting vulnerable homeowners who have already been victimized by prior fraud so
00:26:43.560 they did the enough homework to realize these are the people who are not they didn't just randomly
00:26:48.680 pick these homes at all did they no no they didn't and you know they're in a high net worth area
00:26:55.160 with probably like i said older homes older people right uh and this is a bigger problem that um
00:27:02.440 i don't know how many crime shows i've seen you do paul there's not one that doesn't have some
00:27:07.400 sort of scam story and that's scary for canadians we've had cyber people talk about online scams
00:27:14.280 uh contractor scams um there are those sort of investigative reporters at local tv stations
00:27:22.040 across canada who tell the story about some poor homeowner who thought they were getting a new
00:27:27.080 kitchen or a new deck or a new roof and it's a it leaks it falls apart and they left and they
00:27:32.600 they're out all this money and and it's i mean i don't know how they combat it or do they have to
00:27:39.560 put more teeth into the laws of the people when they get caught because it doesn't seem like it's
00:27:44.340 going away no it's not going away you know and my experience with this one is go talk to other
00:27:51.080 people who've dealt with them so get references yes go to their their actual business so make
00:27:56.540 sure they actually have a yard or a warehouse or whatever yeah make sure they exist make sure you
00:28:01.980 know where they exist you know these are things i i laugh when uh my crew always kind of gives me a
00:28:08.320 hard time because whenever i buy something in any of the businesses quite frankly i want to go visit
00:28:14.540 the person i'm buying it from no you kind of have to don't you yeah so you know if i'm you know if
00:28:20.220 i'm getting paving done i go to the i go to the yard and i see they have paving equipment i see
00:28:25.200 who they are i ask and they look legit yeah i make sure that their name is on the equipment i
00:28:30.160 you know it sounds silly but and they said why do you do all this i said because you know i've been
00:28:34.960 around long enough and seen enough of these scams if my roof you know if someone comes and says my
00:28:39.760 roof is damaged i call a second person to come and look at the roof before i actually give the
00:28:44.240 contract to the first person if an investigator comes quite frankly um i look for credentials
00:28:50.320 then i call the number there's all kinds of things you can do but yeah but unfortunately in this case
00:28:56.080 it looks a little heavy-handed because it looks like they were when you know when they came back
00:29:01.200 they were coming back with multiple people almost to extort the money out from these people we needed
00:29:06.880 it well like any canadian eventually we needed a new roof a number of years ago and when we
00:29:11.840 did thought we're going to go with paul micucci roofing for instance we asked for addresses of
00:29:16.240 their work so we drove around we took a day and drove around to see where they had done roofing
00:29:20.480 so they we knew they were legit and they did good work so that's why we're like okay we're
00:29:24.960 going to go with you yeah because we figure if they can't provide addresses and show examples
00:29:29.600 of their work and it's not legit then it could have been a scam and then maybe you need to take
00:29:34.800 that time and look google and yelp reviews and different things like that you can research like
00:29:43.760 i know some people say i don't have the time well sometimes if you're spending that kind of money
00:29:47.760 unfortunately paul you need to take the time oh yeah yeah take the time read the reviews yeah and
00:29:52.720 And also, and take the time if you do get bad work from someone
00:29:55.960 to actually give them a bad review
00:29:58.420 because that'll help the next person in.
00:30:00.400 To warn them.
00:30:01.260 And that's honestly, as a trade,
00:30:03.580 I found over the years, if I say to someone,
00:30:05.580 that's fine, you know, I'll fix it.
00:30:08.840 You don't have to fix it.
00:30:09.660 You've ruined it, but I'll fix it.
00:30:11.140 But I'm going to give you a bad review on this one,
00:30:13.340 quite frankly, and to just let you know,
00:30:16.120 you know, your social on this one's going to look terrible.
00:30:18.760 And, you know, and usually, quite frankly,
00:30:20.700 they come back and they sit down and resolve it but my scary thing about this paul and you
00:30:26.940 you reference seniors the senior population in canada is pretty significant growing yeah and
00:30:34.780 these kind of what they call highly coordinated fraud and sophisticated scammers they're out there
00:30:41.820 and they are targeting and i have a soon to be 85 year old mother that my sister and i worry about
00:30:47.500 all the time and she's in a singer's home so that's good but there are tens of thousands of
00:30:53.100 seniors in in apartments and homes that could be scammed and it's it's the government's got to find
00:30:58.780 a way to protect them more i agree jim yeah so unfortunately we'd like to have a week where we
00:31:04.200 don't have a crime show but that's not going to happen in canada isn't it that's why we're here
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