True Patriot Love - September 25, 2026


Canada’s Extortion Crisis Is Getting More Brazen

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00:00:00.000 the 111 who were deported are the worst of the worst so think about that they were so bad that
00:00:06.080 even with what a lot of canadians feel are lenient justice system and bending over backwards to make
00:00:11.440 sure they're okay and they have a second chance there was 111 that they had to get deported that
00:00:16.960 even the canadian justicism couldn't deal with and couldn't stomach according to stats canada
00:00:27.680 seven percent of our population are south asian 99 of which are law-abiding citizens who never 0.99
00:00:34.480 commit any crimes but it's the one percent that are causing problems for police forces 0.89
00:00:39.600 across canada to talk more about it thrilled to be joined by mike wicks and mike how are you i'm
00:00:43.680 good this is a tough topic it is you know it's it's weird for two white guys to sit here and
00:00:48.480 have a discussion about uh extortion uh you know gangs that are south asian uh on the rise but
00:00:56.880 there is no denying it and now it has become a matter of fact among our police forces
00:01:02.320 our national police forces and the cbsa uh at large i what did i read 111 people were linked
00:01:09.280 to extortion yeah um but the networks uh operate across orders enforcement collides with deeper
00:01:16.480 allegation the bishnoi group may act for india while ottawa rebuilds ties with new delhi it is
00:01:22.560 a really good point now the bishnoi gang that you reference cbc news did an in-depth story
00:01:28.800 last week they obtained a letter the bishnoi gang actually sent a letter to canada's police
00:01:35.360 forces and defense minister claiming they have 5 000 gang members and more guns than the police
00:01:42.080 what they say read this to me we are giving you a written warning and challenge we are indian gang
00:01:48.080 canada has no guts to stop us is that clear of course it's filled with grammatical and spelling
00:01:53.900 errors i'm reading it as is we will rule in canada now no one can stop us we are very powerful
00:01:59.500 and they that letter was obtained by cbc news and it's the abbotsford police force of surrey bc
00:02:05.940 vancouver to toronto peel region all the major cities who have issues with extortion or south
00:02:11.920 asian gangs are now aware of this it's it's pretty brazen to send a note to authority i dare you to
00:02:18.840 stop us that's what they're saying not only that but what we're seeing over the last certainly
00:02:23.860 over the last year and a half by the way uh the bishop gang we're not just throwing it out there
00:02:28.700 no they've actually been uh i guess they've been deemed a terrorist organization by the canada by
00:02:35.120 the federal government yeah it's that much of a concern but what we've seen over the last year
00:02:39.580 is a rise in extortion yes it's so weird because you know what we're hearing is extortion is down
00:02:46.140 uh by two-thirds meanwhile it's up 10 from last year how is that possible i don't know
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00:03:19.340 nothing keeps you informed so thank you now back to the show and it's targeting south asian trucking
00:03:26.460 firms restaurants jewelers home builders in peel surrey bc abbotsford bc and then edmonton and
00:03:33.980 what breaks my heart is i think about a family restaurant and the people that own it that's
00:03:39.660 probably the mom and dad and kids working their butts off every day to run a business they're
00:03:45.500 you know not everyone i mean this is the problem now you have the far right who are just slapping
00:03:50.460 labels on every south asian in the country when 99 of them don't even ever had a parking ticket
00:03:56.300 or speeding ticket and these gangs are basically like the extortion the bullying daring people to
00:04:03.420 stop them so they're preying on the law-abiding south asian people to pay them basically protection
00:04:10.940 money uh i just spent some time in the west and uh spent a couple of days in surrey yes uh two
00:04:16.540 of the best days i had out west i will tell you that and and the reason for it was the community
00:04:21.100 who who by the way they this is disturbing to that community as well how could it not be the
00:04:27.820 a Sikh community in Abbotsford, in Surrey, they feel this on par and more so than we ever will
00:04:35.860 because there's a small group of people representing them very badly. They are the
00:04:41.700 victims first in these scenarios. Most of this extortion, most of this interplay of fighting
00:04:47.680 among the tow trucks and shipping companies, it's within their own community. So it's a threat first
00:04:54.500 and foremost to that community and then to see the rest of the nation start to identify groups
00:04:59.940 in that community as terrorist groups it feels terrible to that community and mike we have done
00:05:06.040 multiple crime shows on this network and the one thing that comes up are the random houses in
00:05:12.020 suburban uh you know communities and yeah and just neighborhoods and it's the house of the people
00:05:18.160 maybe from one of these businesses being shot at at two or three in the morning with the videos that
00:05:23.580 we're hearing the stories that they have to be videotaped to prove they did it and they're
00:05:27.020 shooting the cars and at the house is a warning to pay up and that's happening across the country
00:05:31.560 not only that but they post the videos yes uh you mentioned uh you saw and i have as well uh
00:05:37.640 epa muskoka yes a group of young uh south asian guys show up uh with automatic weapons just firing
00:05:44.100 willy-nilly into the woods with glee in their heart it's tough to watch well they film it and
00:05:49.940 it's not secret they put it out there yeah with high-end cars 150 200 000 cars shot like music
00:05:56.980 videos exactly with production value and like hey look at us like the letter says you can't stop us
00:06:03.340 here we are that is it's so brazen uh the shooting at homes is another good example you know you might
00:06:09.460 be shooting at a home you shoot at the garage you don't know who's in that garage you don't know
00:06:13.740 where that bullet by the way if you've ever shot a weapon have you ever shot a weapon i have yes i
00:06:18.860 have a few times at a gun range how easy is it to hit that target it's not easy no it's incredibly
00:06:25.120 difficult and the one thing a bullet doesn't know to stop like the velocity it goes through the
00:06:31.620 window of a house it's not going to say oh there's an innocent person i'll stop there's ricochet
00:06:36.420 factor yeah absolutely it could it's my concern mike is someone who got up late at night what
00:06:44.620 I need some water. Go to the bathroom. Insomnia. Like whatever reason, and that two and three in
00:06:50.520 the morning when you're hearing the stories that they're shooting up the house, some innocent
00:06:54.660 person will be hit. It's bound to happen, Mike. Here's some terrifying numbers. Arrests in Peel
00:07:00.580 in May 2026, extortion investigation. 17 people were arrested. 29th September 2025, the Bishnoi
00:07:07.940 gang was listed as a terrorist entity. So just one year later, they're making 17 arrests
00:07:13.560 in more extortion. So, you know, 10% or 29 per 100,000 are extorted. That's still three times
00:07:23.500 the 2015 rate of 9%. So it is obviously on the rise. The reality is that the police are now
00:07:37.740 faced with a very new challenge on the streets it's not terrorism at a secretive level behind
00:07:44.800 closed doors no with a potential bomb threat which is terrible but this is out on the streets
00:07:50.340 every day we have terrorism on our streets every day acting in terroristic ways and they can access
00:07:57.100 the videos like they're going to youtube watch a movie clip that's how crazy it is and it's gotten
00:08:02.240 to the point where the police services and the municipalities working with the cbsa they've
00:08:07.060 removed 111 people linked to extortions in canada as of september 2026 now years ago it was unheard
00:08:15.500 of that you think that the criminal element was to the point we'd have to um have them removed
00:08:20.720 and deported from the country but unfortunately for the government they're seeing the crimes
00:08:26.600 they're seeing the repeat crimes and they basically have no option but to deport the people
00:08:33.100 and living in canada is a privilege for the 40 million people who desire to live here and want
00:08:38.060 to make their life here i think the government's doing the right thing deporting the repeat
00:08:41.660 criminals to get them out of canadian society uh it's interesting this is uh the immigration
00:08:50.860 actually the immigration law is getting in the way of frankly uh deporting criminals you know
00:08:59.180 The immigration process and the courts are now allowing people to stay or serve a lesser sentence, a reduced sentence, so that it doesn't affect their immigration.
00:09:08.740 So not only do we experience this terrorism on the streets and we've identified it and they've been brazen about it, but also we're in a scenario where our own system is encouraging us to keep them here.
00:09:23.440 so having said that the 111 who were deported are the worst of the worst so think about that they
00:09:30.480 were so bad that even with what a lot of canadians feel are lenient justice system and bending over
00:09:35.920 backwards to make sure they're okay and they have a second chance there was 111 there was 111 that
00:09:41.040 they had to get deported that even the canadian justicism couldn't deal with and couldn't stomach
00:09:46.160 can you imagine 110 people in this room right now it would fill the room well of course it would
00:09:51.080 That's a perspective on it.
00:09:52.380 You need to think.
00:09:52.800 Imagine standing in a room with 110 potential terrorists
00:09:55.720 associated with a gang that's been, you know, shooting guns at homes.
00:10:00.480 It's a very terrifying thing.
00:10:02.200 100 people is not a small number in a community.
00:10:05.260 A lot of damage can be done.
00:10:06.660 And if this picks up, if this becomes a matter of popularity,
00:10:10.400 if an entire community says we can rise up this way against the laws in Canada,
00:10:16.300 how many other people are sleeping out there that we don't know oh i i unfortunately i believe this
00:10:23.420 is just the tip of the iceberg mike i mean unfortunately like they're dealing the police
00:10:28.540 have do not have unlimited resources or officers to work with yeah okay so like think about that
00:10:35.840 so every time that the police think they've made they have the um media conference and they have
00:10:42.480 the stacks of illicit drugs and money stacks and guns and that and look at the big bus we made
00:10:48.020 and if history has shown us anything from the cocaine wars in south florida in the 80s
00:10:53.120 to different you know criminal elements and crime sprees through the years that's only just part of
00:11:00.200 it the majority doesn't get caught isn't arrested doesn't see justice i have a weird observation
00:11:05.920 please in the comments let me know look i know that i said the capital of none of it incorrectly
00:11:11.600 And by the way, I've taken it on the chin many times.
00:11:14.140 Thank you for making me viral.
00:11:16.000 But one of the things that I, and please, so correct me on this one if I'm wrong.
00:11:21.520 But just let's take a look at what the data says, right?
00:11:24.200 Yeah.
00:11:24.460 The Crime Severity Index fell 5% to 75 homicides.
00:11:29.400 It fell 16% to 672.
00:11:33.900 Sorry, homicides fell 16% to 672.
00:11:36.900 Right.
00:11:37.140 Crime Severity Index fell 5% to 75.
00:11:41.420 Canada publishes no national crime data by ethnicity or national origin,
00:11:45.920 only immigration status data in enforcement cases alone.
00:11:50.600 So for us to actually say, okay, the overall crime experience is down, fine,
00:11:59.120 but extortion is up.
00:12:00.560 These crimes are up.
00:12:01.620 It's interesting to me.
00:12:02.920 So here's my observation.
00:12:04.200 Not a huge amount of murders in this gang.
00:12:07.220 well i think they're looking at it personally from it's bad for business right it's bad for
00:12:13.640 business they want they want that business owner and the entrepreneur that they're uh
00:12:19.700 leading on extorting to keep paying the money so they do damage yes they do fire damage they
00:12:24.680 shoot at your house they scare you but the truth is they know the extent to the law that they can
00:12:30.920 get away with and still stay in canada because they know that the court system and immigration
00:12:35.560 will do everything they can to keep that final charge and judgment 0.53
00:12:40.180 under the amount of time it takes to keep them here in the country.
00:12:44.920 Mike, what have we seen time and time again?
00:12:47.020 When a criminal organization, a gang,
00:12:49.520 gets to a point they need to cross a line and do something,
00:12:52.360 they don't do it. 0.61
00:12:53.920 They hire out a teenager to do it.
00:12:56.920 In the last five years, we've seen thousands of examples of that
00:13:01.180 across the country where teenagers are being hired on a per-
00:13:05.560 job basis and being told to videotape to prove that you did it to get your money
00:13:10.000 you know the people who run this stuff they ever have their hands dirty it's uh really interesting
00:13:15.840 that we're up against uh this as a nation at the same time carney is trying to create a deal with
00:13:24.000 modi that is groundbreaking trying to re-establish ties trying to create new well it's part of his
00:13:30.320 new world order right right and so at the same time we're experiencing this problem that is a
00:13:36.540 gang that is obviously maintained directly out of india uh out of new delhi so you know it's it's
00:13:44.180 got to be difficult it's a difficult position for both sides because this obviously needs to be
00:13:50.340 handled both in india and in canada simultaneously it has to be a concerted effort together i think
00:13:56.820 Now, I don't pretend to know what Modi is thinking,
00:14:00.660 but if you're the prime minister of India,
00:14:03.140 where would you rather have these gang members,
00:14:04.960 in your country or in Canada?
00:14:06.460 I think he has so many people that are gang members there
00:14:09.020 just based on population, but...
00:14:11.000 Because once upon a time...
00:14:12.500 Does it matter to him that it leaks out into other parts of the world?
00:14:15.040 Probably not.
00:14:15.740 Probably not.
00:14:16.640 Because it's not a concern.
00:14:18.060 We've seen examples through history where countries...
00:14:21.140 That's how Australia was founded.
00:14:23.200 England emptied their jails and sent them to Australia.
00:14:26.140 Cuba emptied their jail, sent them on the Muriel boat lift to Florida.
00:14:29.700 This happens.
00:14:31.620 And unfortunately, right now, Canada is dealing with it,
00:14:34.000 that a huge segment of a criminal element in India ended up in Canada,
00:14:39.720 and now we are dealing with it as a country.
00:14:42.640 You know, you see comments online that are really disparaging to the community overall.
00:14:48.020 And really, here we are.
00:14:49.480 We've nailed it down to a very specific, very minor sliver of that society that is causing a huge amount of problems in cities across Canada.
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00:15:15.580 All right, back to the show.
00:15:16.980 So if you're in a neighborhood right now, Mike, and you're in Edmonton or Brampton slash Mississauga, Peel region, or Richmond, B.C., and this gang has hired a teenager to drive around in probably a stolen car with a gun that's been smuggled from the U.S. to shoot at a house or a car to intimidate them for extortion reasons, how are we to know that these teenagers are shooting at the right house and picking the right victims?
00:15:43.400 That's my concern as a Canadian.
00:15:44.700 That's a good point, too. 0.97
00:15:45.980 When my kids were teenagers,
00:15:47.440 I don't know if their attention to detail was all that, you know?
00:15:50.560 You're telling a 16 or 17-year-old in a stolen car
00:15:53.580 with a smuggled gun with probably limited experience.
00:15:57.240 Huge amount of anxiety going on in their body at the moment
00:15:59.740 as they're carrying this out.
00:16:01.120 Yeah, exactly.
00:16:02.540 And so it's not a matter if it's going to happen,
00:16:07.220 it's just when it's going to happen.
00:16:08.920 I remember I lived in Montreal in the early 90s,
00:16:11.840 and they had a biker war with the Hells Angels
00:16:14.400 in the rock machine and it went on but finally they blew up a vehicle and the shrapnel the debris
00:16:20.420 killed up like a seven or eight year old girl on the street so that was finally the tipping point
00:16:26.080 for the police services and the government of quebec like that's enough and we are about to get 0.67
00:16:31.220 that it's interesting that you make that comparison because i guess when was it 2023 the the nijar
00:16:36.940 case really became, it became a diplomatic issue.
00:16:41.540 Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
00:16:43.220 From that moment forward, we've had a watch on how to do this.
00:16:46.900 If you take a look, it wasn't that much longer after that,
00:16:49.840 I guess two and a half years,
00:16:53.860 we see EBs going to the federal government saying,
00:16:57.480 look, guys, we've got to deem this a terrorist group
00:16:59.700 because we need better policing on this.
00:17:02.460 We need different laws applied to arresting these people
00:17:05.500 because if not, we're not going to stop.
00:17:07.860 So that's kind of Eby even recognizing a couple of years ago
00:17:11.340 that it's out of control, his police services can't do anything,
00:17:15.100 and they're bragging that you can't stop them.
00:17:17.400 And the courts are actually getting in the way of policing
00:17:20.220 and properly based on the laws that they're being charged with.
00:17:22.480 A lot of this comes off as mischief or aggravated assault
00:17:26.300 or theft or damage under a certain amount.
00:17:30.980 There is a certain methodology to how these crimes are being executed
00:17:34.100 so that these guys don't end up in jail under certain laws.
00:17:37.680 So, you know, it's interesting.
00:17:39.540 From 2023 to this point, just three years later,
00:17:43.320 we went from one fairly isolated incident causing diplomatic problems with India
00:17:48.800 to actually having declared this Bishnoy group under Lawrence Bishnoy
00:17:55.340 a terrorist organization.
00:17:57.840 Three years is a very short span of time to smell the smoke
00:18:02.200 and then find yourself in the middle of the raging fire.
00:18:05.060 And here's the crazy thing. 0.81
00:18:06.080 So you see stories of four Indian nationals
00:18:09.400 who were charged with first-degree murder in 2024.
00:18:12.360 In spring of 2026, Peel police arrest 17.
00:18:15.960 It sounds good.
00:18:17.380 But when they send a letter saying there's 5,000 of us,
00:18:21.580 that's not really putting a dent in it.
00:18:24.180 It's a good start.
00:18:25.560 There's 5,000 of us armed and ready to go.
00:18:30.000 and well-funded and they're using technology they're so it i mean this is this is an issue
00:18:38.240 and we've seen in history um they've had task force where all levels of government
00:18:45.440 where there's provincial municipal federal police forces got together said this is out of hand
00:18:50.720 we need to get together with the courts with and we may need military support we might need more
00:18:57.520 equipment for the police forces to deal with this we might need the rcmp equipped in a different way
00:19:03.520 now with different gear right uh it kind of begs the question you know sam cooper had him on
00:19:09.280 recently the other point that he makes is how tied is this gang to the other gangs that are
00:19:14.080 international crime gangs in canada the the uh money laundering groups the uh cartel and drug
00:19:21.280 shipping groups. You know, a lot of the shipping, trucking, and distribution of this happens along
00:19:28.220 our highways. The Indian community has been dragged into that through the shipping jobs that 0.97
00:19:34.400 are out there. And now we find ourselves in a situation where the U.S. is looking at us and
00:19:40.080 saying, you know, you've got the IRGC there, you've got the Bishnoy gang, you guys are starting to look
00:19:47.140 like you house terrorist groups what would the u.s's opinion be on that as we're trying to 0.91
00:19:52.760 negotiate trade with them it's a great question i mean because right now it seems all the focus
00:19:58.120 out of the trump white house is fentanyl and our lack of control over fentanyl um that seems to be
00:20:03.920 all they ever talk about i've not personally heard them allude to the vishnoi gang and problems with
00:20:09.440 the extortion it seems a truly a canadian issue but i'm hearing there's as many as 50 of these
00:20:15.160 groups in canada i wouldn't surprise me and i remember speaking to a member of the toronto
00:20:22.360 police force and they had a south asian officer and in their 12-hour shift that poor south asian
00:20:28.280 officer in the east end of toronto in a real sort of tough um you know working class area
00:20:34.600 was basically run off his feet in his squad car because they had to translate all the different
00:20:40.120 different instances and crimes and events that were happening because there was someone that
00:20:45.640 they couldn't speak the language oh that's an interesting point to think about that so
00:20:49.660 but imagine this now you're you're uh you're a south asian cop you're from the sea community
00:20:56.560 you're an upstanding citizen now you're being faced with all of these cultural and uh south
00:21:03.880 asian issues yes because you're being put into the middle of this when really what you want to do is
00:21:09.860 be a good cop and probably a dad or mom and a good canadian then you see how much coverage all
00:21:18.480 of this gets because of the brazen nature of it yeah it's got to be devastating to the south
00:21:24.980 asian community to watch this i think for years you know canadians they knew that there was gangs
00:21:30.560 and crime in canada we we knew that but i don't remember any criminal organization up until
00:21:37.940 recently advertising who they are and what they do and writing letters that's crazy but that's
00:21:43.920 unheard of it's unheard of and that's i think what's shocked a lot of canadians is here we are
00:21:48.780 this is what we do you can't stop us na na na na na and like canada's like wait a second
00:21:54.260 though we got to do something now these communities where this happens they have
00:21:58.880 local government municipal government municipal yeah so here's my suggestion use this voting
00:22:05.300 time right now to pick a council and a mayor who's going to go to the premier of your province,
00:22:10.700 who's going to push on the federal government to really start to get these gangs under control
00:22:17.160 and out. We don't want Canada to become a harbor for terrorists. But if I'm in Peel region, which
00:22:24.580 is heavily liberal in the federal government, most of the MPs in Brampton, Mississauga are
00:22:31.180 liberal mps write them an email i live here i don't feel safe this is a problem what is mark
00:22:38.700 carney and your government going to do about it just ask them the question i'd like to like me
00:22:43.580 they have the right that's they have to by law put their email communication so someone from
00:22:49.660 their office will at least get back to them because this is now a team effort where members
00:22:55.740 of the federal, provincial government,
00:22:57.680 police forces, OPP, RCMP,
00:23:00.600 everyone's got to work together
00:23:02.000 to keep the community safe.
00:23:03.940 For those 99% of the South Asians
00:23:06.020 in this country who don't do anything wrong
00:23:08.220 but try to live their life,
00:23:09.320 they should not have to live like this.
00:23:11.100 I appreciate this conversation
00:23:12.740 because it's a difficult one to have
00:23:16.460 for Canadians that we have this going on.
00:23:18.940 Absolutely.
00:23:19.500 And here we are at TPL Media.
00:23:20.980 We're reporting on deporting and extorting.
00:23:23.540 By the way, you can pick up my new rap album.
00:23:25.740 it's on vinyl it's at a store mrock yeah that's right thank you blake thank you