True Patriot Love - April 13, 2026


Canada’s Homes Becoming Uninsurable?


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As wildfires intensify across the country, entire communities are becoming hard and in some cases impossible to insure. Premiums are skyrocketing, coverage is shrinking, and some insurers are quietly pulling out altogether. So what happens when your home, your biggest investment, can t be protected anymore? Today we break down the wildfire insurance problem in Canada, who s really paying the price, and whether this is the beginning of a much bigger housing and financial shock.

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00:00:00.000 Canada is facing a growing crisis and most people don't even see it coming.
00:00:04.480 As wildfires intensify across the country, entire communities are becoming harder
00:00:08.780 and in some cases impossible to insure.
00:00:12.120 Premiums are skyrocketing, coverage is shrinking,
00:00:14.640 and some insurers are quietly pulling out altogether.
00:00:17.800 So what happens when your home, your biggest investment, can't be protected anymore?
00:00:22.560 Today we break down the wildfire insurance problem in Canada.
00:00:25.140 who's really paying the price and whether this is the beginning of a much bigger housing and
00:00:30.540 financial shock joining me to talk about this brady wedham tpl's very own uh this is a problem
00:00:41.260 i almost think that we saw coming yeah well this has been an ongoing thing since you know before
00:00:47.700 i was even born that wildfires in canada or i think that happens um but they've definitely
00:00:52.360 been out of control over the past like three years but 10 years specifically but three years
00:00:57.520 have been really rough since 2023. That is true. I mean at one point I remember we had a fire
00:01:02.620 burning in the middle of Canada that was the size of Jamaica. The size of Jamaica which is if
00:01:07.560 anybody's ever been to Jamaica it's not a tiny place. No this was a big fire. Yeah. In fact you
00:01:12.680 got some of the stats there. Let's start with that. So for the last five years these are breakdowns
00:01:17.460 of the numbers. Those are just going to be some of the bigger numbers. 8,000 fires per year on
00:01:21.000 average what yeah 8 000 different separate fires on average um historical norm 2.1 million hectares
00:01:28.380 are burned annually which isn't always the worst thing like there's these are some of these these
00:01:34.720 are natural right this is the way that the the forest kind of decompresses itself um but it seems
00:01:39.740 to be out of control 2023 or 2023 is the worst on record we had 6 500 fires 18.5 million hectares
00:01:47.580 burned that's six times normal or more than normal that's incredible it's massive and i think that's
00:01:53.420 when it really came back even south of the border all of us felt that ontario got it
00:01:57.980 uh several provinces were affected by it several of the a lot of american social media is just
00:02:03.420 filled with saying what's going on in canada because my backyard is basically smoked out
00:02:07.420 and fried out yeah yeah so um that was the big one that's the one that made us all take a look
00:02:12.620 at the wildfire situation obviously it's 2023 there was a fire in every single province and
00:02:17.660 territory which means there wasn't a portion of canada didn't have some sort of outbreak that's
00:02:23.020 incredible yeah 2024 5600 fires 5.3 million hectares burned 2025 5 000 fires uh 8.9 million
00:02:32.140 hectares burned so it seems like it doesn't really matter the amount of fires it more amounts about
00:02:37.980 the amount of wind the moisture that year dryness etc etc the current reality is that thousands of
00:02:43.900 fires are still active each season and the burning rate is well above the historical averages if
00:02:49.020 you're looking at this per year so we are headed in a direction where and so therefore not surprising
00:02:55.980 the insurance companies are taking a stance where they're losing money against this you know year
00:03:01.100 over year incrementally and the reports for the past couple weeks uh directly on the news i've
00:03:06.380 I've seen everything from Vancouver.
00:03:08.160 Companies don't want to insure some of these places anymore.
00:03:10.560 Is there misconceptions going on?
00:03:12.020 Because I can't see insurance companies just pulling out of nowhere.
00:03:15.340 You know, it's funny that you say that.
00:03:16.420 I think some of the headlines have been a little bit deceptive.
00:03:19.720 What they're actually doing, here's kind of the real story.
00:03:22.880 They're partnering with Wildfire Defense Services to protect homes.
00:03:27.000 In other words, before you can get insurance,
00:03:28.980 they want to make sure that you have the right fire protection on your property,
00:03:32.520 that it's maintained to a degree that it's not going to get entangled further in the wildfires.
00:03:39.660 And then they're reassessing exposure and avoiding high-risk regions altogether.
00:03:44.740 So the insurance companies are actually assessing this right now.
00:03:48.740 So maybe you don't have the answer for this, but I'll ask you anyway.
00:03:50.840 Well, maybe you do.
00:03:52.780 If I was a young person and I'm going into, let's say, Alberta,
00:03:56.740 right where some of these fires seem to be predominant,
00:03:59.020 and it's my first time buying a house,
00:04:00.560 and I've never had to deal with an insurance company
00:04:02.840 or home insurance before outside of renter's insurance,
00:04:05.300 and I'm going to set up my insurance.
00:04:07.580 Are they actually going to give me insurance
00:04:09.380 if there has been fires in the vicinity?
00:04:12.140 Right now, likely, yes.
00:04:13.360 But what they will also likely do
00:04:15.720 is push you toward a higher deductible
00:04:17.540 because your insurance rates will be higher.
00:04:20.760 And basically, they'll insist
00:04:24.440 that you extend coverage accordingly,
00:04:27.160 which would be more than you might need to pay
00:04:30.040 in a city or in a non-affected region so really what's happening is the insurance industry
00:04:36.920 is compensating and for a problem that is growing uh if we saw an immediate increase
00:04:43.240 in car accidents car insurance would go up and in fact in certain parts of canada they have that is
00:04:49.160 true brampton is a perfect example there are if you live in brampton your insurance is usually one
00:04:55.080 third or one yeah one third higher than it would be if anywhere else in the gta you know what i
00:05:00.320 don't even know what the number is anymore because that it might even be higher than that yeah but
00:05:04.760 depending on what's going on in insurance in a certain area and the response and the problems
00:05:08.880 that insurances had to pay off obviously they're going to compensate for it remember last so last
00:05:15.300 year i think it was the the beginning of the fall we have done we did an episode where we brought up
00:05:20.000 a live map of all
00:05:22.000 the fires going on around Canada
00:05:24.020 at that time and it almost looked like
00:05:26.120 it was a video game like this
00:05:27.980 couldn't possibly, most of the country
00:05:30.000 seemed like it was on fire at some point last year
00:05:32.080 Midsummer was a terrifying
00:05:34.200 map to look at
00:05:35.580 and of course the effects
00:05:38.000 of it we were feeling at the time
00:05:39.720 right to the point where
00:05:41.900 furnaces, air conditioning systems
00:05:44.280 you know
00:05:45.680 mechanics in certain cities
00:05:48.160 required different service suddenly different filters because they were having to deal with
00:05:53.340 this smoke problem that was so immense and of course dealing with those fires we had fire
00:06:00.020 bombers going in uh you know not enough our fire service stretched to its end yeah and now new
00:06:07.040 fire bombers are on the way so goodness to some degree the government is trying to react to this
00:06:12.140 as well well for years they didn't like in 2023 it seemed like we had no answer uh last year it
00:06:17.140 seems like we were putting a plan together it seems like heading into this year we actually
00:06:20.800 have a plan this time well i think that we've also let forestry uh step back a little bit and
00:06:26.780 that has been a huge problem ongoing here in canada that we're not allowing for the right
00:06:33.520 kind of culling the right kind of cleaning in the forest and you know it's so funny because
00:06:37.680 here we stand at the precipice of everybody in the world pointing a finger at donald trump but
00:06:42.840 The one thing he did say was, we need to clean up our forests.
00:06:46.460 We just cleaned them up.
00:06:47.820 We almost made it through an entire episode without that impression.
00:06:51.280 It's not a great impression.
00:06:52.420 I'm so sorry.
00:06:52.920 It's not that I don't like it.
00:06:54.040 I just am surprised that we almost made it through an entire episode with it.
00:06:57.320 Okay, so yes, we have a problem.
00:06:58.840 I don't recall doing it.
00:07:00.020 Maybe I did.
00:07:00.980 I don't recall.
00:07:02.100 We have a problem with wildfires.
00:07:03.520 We've had this issue for a long time.
00:07:05.680 2023 really put it on the radar.
00:07:07.420 It seems like we've brought in more procedures this year that are going to counterbalance this.
00:07:13.040 But the same thing needs to be said each year.
00:07:16.480 If you are camping, make sure your campfire is put out.
00:07:20.680 If you are a smoker, whether that's nicotine, cigars, cannabis, whatever it is, make sure you are not flicking this into the bush.
00:07:28.080 Do not flick it into your backyard.
00:07:30.000 These little teeny tiny steps that we could take as everyday Canadians to stop some of these wildfires getting out of control.
00:07:36.020 Yes, there is an ecosystem inside of the forest.
00:07:38.580 It does its own thing.
00:07:39.860 We don't help.
00:07:41.540 We can't help.
00:07:42.040 I think many of the fires that we're talking about are human problems.
00:07:46.460 And, you know, a lot of them are proven to be that.
00:07:49.620 Of course, you're right.
00:07:50.520 Nature, lightning strikes.
00:07:52.660 It does its thing.
00:07:54.040 It does its thing.
00:07:55.300 But how we handle it when it comes up really will make a difference.
00:07:59.820 And it's funny because industry experts in the insurance business aren't hiding.
00:08:04.400 they're not running away from this increase the media will make you think that they were though
00:08:08.720 because like i said for the past couple weeks i just seen some like every headline i've seen about
00:08:12.960 wildfires is uh we're not going to insure this house anymore this area of vancouver doesn't get
00:08:16.920 insured anymore this area of alberta is not going to be insured anymore sounds like that's not the
00:08:21.840 actual truth well not insured this is not insured at the same rate yeah not insured for the same
00:08:26.520 things and new requirements might be made but even industry experts are saying look this trend could
00:08:33.100 lead to parts of canada becoming effectively uninsurable altogether really absolutely once
00:08:39.820 again like a problem in your driving history that makes it impossible to insure you yeah where you
00:08:46.380 live and proximity to that kind of danger will make a difference in the future to what you're
00:08:52.740 paying and and and it's obviously so so when we take a look at what this problem is i think it
00:08:59.620 does behoove the federal government to make sure for the first time in decades we're actually
00:09:04.060 looking at our forestry from a management perspective and not just let's be growing
00:09:10.440 because what's been left is problematic fires that are costing civilians well and if those
00:09:18.260 problematic fires keep going we're going to end up uh just overpopulating uh pei yeah we'll all
00:09:25.220 just head over there head over there everyone in charlestown i know you've had it really good for
00:09:29.000 the past for however long um there's only been 30,000 to be there but there's going to be a
00:09:33.640 million of us showing up very soon if we don't get this uh taken care of i call anna green gable's
00:09:38.740 house i'm taking that uh what i would love to do is get feedback from the people watching or
00:09:46.980 listening to this right now are your insurance rates going up because of this i'd like to hear
00:09:51.020 from you and what kind of rates you're paying that you didn't expect to pay have you heard from your
00:09:56.060 insurance company we'd like to follow the story so please if you don't mind uh follow along with
00:10:01.140 the comments share it with a friend that you think might be in the same scenario and we would
00:10:05.260 love to talk more about this but for now insurance companies are pulling back on wildfire coverage in
00:10:11.120 areas that are dangerous and just like smoky only you could prevent forest fires i can't believe you
00:10:18.120 did that you're you're bugging me about the trump impersonation thanks we'll catch you next time
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