True Patriot Love - January 21, 2026


Carney’s Davos Warning： Canada’s Wake-Up Call


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00:00:00.640 It seems that every day we're reminded that we live in an era of great power rivalry,
00:00:09.460 that the rules-based order is fading, that the strong can do what they can and the weak
00:00:15.560 must suffer what they must.
00:00:18.640 And this aphorism of Thucydides is presented as inevitable, as the natural logic of international
00:00:25.940 relations reasserting itself.
00:00:27.860 And faced with this logic, there is a strong tendency for countries to go along to get
00:00:36.760 along, to accommodate, to avoid trouble, to hope that compliance will buy safety.
00:00:45.620 Well, it won't.
00:00:48.400 So what are our options?
00:00:49.960 In 1978, the Czech dissident Václav Havel, later president, wrote an essay called The
00:00:58.860 Power of the Powerless.
00:01:00.620 And in it, he asked a simple question, how did the communist system sustain itself?
00:01:06.980 And his answer began with a green grocer.
00:01:09.060 Every morning, this shopkeeper places a sign in his window, workers of the world unite.
00:01:16.980 He doesn't believe it.
00:01:18.800 No one does.
00:01:20.060 But he places a sign anyway to avoid trouble, to signal compliance, to get along.
00:01:25.640 And because every shopkeeper on every street does the same, the system persists, not through
00:01:32.760 violence alone, but through the participation of ordinary people in rituals they privately
00:01:38.900 know to be false.
00:01:42.040 Havel called this living within a lie.
00:01:44.480 The system's power comes not from its truth, but from everyone's willingness to perform
00:01:50.280 as if it were true.
00:01:53.020 And its fragility comes from the same source.
00:01:56.800 When even one person stops performing, when the green grocer removes his sign, the illusion
00:02:02.560 begins to crack.
00:02:05.500 Friends, it is time for companies and countries to take their signs down.
00:02:14.480 In what can only be described as an explosive, groundbreaking speech by Prime Minister Mark
00:02:23.480 Carney, it kicked off the world economic forum in Davos, Switzerland.
00:02:27.660 And in his words, the old order is not coming back.
00:02:31.160 Thrilled to be joined by Mike and Paul's always and gentlemen.
00:02:33.860 With the world leaders there, with Trump arriving on Air Force One after his barrage on true social,
00:02:39.120 Paul, Mark Carney basically laid his cards on the table saying,
00:02:44.220 OK, the old way's gone and we're going to start with a new way.
00:02:48.540 Yeah, it's interesting, Jim, how it's escalated from tariffs to a new world order.
00:02:53.880 So, you know, as Mike mentioned early before the show, you know, the door got cracked open
00:02:59.140 with tariffs.
00:02:59.800 And now this is kind of steamrolled into new world orders, country control, military.
00:03:07.760 There's all kinds of components.
00:03:10.000 All our pillars that we talk about on a weekly basis are all folding under this umbrella
00:03:15.420 and culminating in this speech that's about to come tomorrow in Davos.
00:03:20.760 Like, you know, this speech, I can only imagine, we'll talk about it in a minute, but I can
00:03:25.260 only imagine what he's about to tell them.
00:03:26.980 You mean Trump's speech?
00:03:27.940 Trump's speech, yeah.
00:03:28.360 Yeah, because Carney basically fired the first salvo with a speech today.
00:03:31.940 Oh, yeah.
00:03:32.280 And it will be fascinating to see how Trump responds.
00:03:35.060 Do you think it was an accident that they put that order together?
00:03:38.480 I mean, to be honest with you, Canada, U.S. is probably one of the mainstay discussions
00:03:44.040 on geopolitics at the moment.
00:03:46.240 It almost feels like they put Carney up there to have the first word.
00:03:50.740 Yeah.
00:03:50.980 And a little bit, you know, I guess that was the order that he had to accept, but a
00:03:55.380 little bit shocking that he would actually do it in advance of Trump's speech.
00:03:59.360 So strategically, I guess maybe that was determined or that was something he wanted.
00:04:04.340 But I probably would have actually waited to see where he was going first and then gone
00:04:09.960 forward.
00:04:10.480 Well, it makes it so easy for Trump to show up with his speech and say, well, we all know
00:04:15.080 what Mark Carney said.
00:04:15.940 That guy's a fool.
00:04:16.760 I've always said he was a fool.
00:04:17.960 He has no idea what he's talking about.
00:04:19.320 This is not true.
00:04:20.200 It actually lines Trump up to make a fool of Carney on the global stage, or at least start
00:04:27.020 to combat each of the things that Carney just said in his speech.
00:04:30.320 Carney dropped a lot of truth bombs this morning in Switzerland.
00:04:33.220 You know, he spoke for a lot of world leaders.
00:04:35.740 President Macron spoke to reporters and said, quote, I do not intend to speak with President
00:04:40.480 Trump at Davos.
00:04:41.580 So that was unheard of, a world economic forum with the leader of one of the biggest countries
00:04:46.560 in Europe saying, I have no desire to speak to the U.S. president.
00:04:49.560 But they're in a different, you know, they're in a different scenario.
00:04:54.280 So different, you know, because they're in Europe, they're further away.
00:04:57.100 We have a whole different issue in our proximity.
00:05:01.060 And, you know, the Western Hemisphere.
00:05:02.600 So back before Christmas, we posted something, which was the National Security Strategy for
00:05:08.560 the United States.
00:05:12.500 Not a lengthy document.
00:05:13.680 Well, the Western Hemisphere portion for us was, it was a lengthy document for the whole
00:05:18.200 world.
00:05:18.660 But for us, it basically laid out some key points that he wanted to get across.
00:05:25.400 And, you know, I just wanted to, I was reading this morning.
00:05:28.800 So the United States must reconsider our military presence in the Western Hemisphere.
00:05:34.400 This means four obvious things.
00:05:36.740 The readjustment of our global military presence to address urgent threats in our hemisphere,
00:05:42.620 especially the missions identified in this strategy and away from theaters whose relative
00:05:48.740 import to America, national security has declined in recent decades or years.
00:05:54.560 So that's number one.
00:05:55.760 Number two, a more suitable Coast Guard and Navy presence to control sea lanes to thwart illegal
00:06:01.860 and unwanted migration to reduce human and drug trafficking and to control key transit routes
00:06:08.000 in a crisis.
00:06:08.860 Three, target deployments to secure the border and defeat cartels, including, where necessary,
00:06:15.720 the use of lethal force to replace the failed law.
00:06:20.020 Mm-hmm.
00:06:20.500 Venezuela.
00:06:21.300 Yeah.
00:06:22.620 Four, establishing or expanding access in strategically important locations.
00:06:29.660 Expanding or expanding access in strategically important locations.
00:06:35.140 Are Arctic.
00:06:37.300 Greenland.
00:06:37.880 And Greenland.
00:06:38.820 Greenland.
00:06:39.100 So historically, since NATO was formed in 1949, they call it the GI-UK gap.
00:06:46.940 Greenland, Iceland, the UK.
00:06:49.200 Any Russian submarine coming towards America has to come between Greenland and Iceland or
00:06:54.960 Iceland and the UK.
00:06:57.020 You can't get to the North Atlantic to get to America without going through there first.
00:07:00.960 Representation from Denmark and, of course, our discussion and history just shows, the
00:07:06.640 U.S. has had a heavy presence on Greenland for decades and decades.
00:07:10.340 They've reduced that over the past number of years.
00:07:13.000 But they're saying to Trump, no, go ahead.
00:07:16.720 Bring your troops.
00:07:17.440 It's in the documentation.
00:07:19.080 They're allowed to.
00:07:19.740 You're welcome to set it all up here.
00:07:21.440 Please come and do that.
00:07:22.540 And this morning, he said, because the UK had surrendered Diego Garcia, they basically said
00:07:30.340 that, look at how weak you were to do that.
00:07:32.720 How our military base there is now at threat because you surrendered the island.
00:07:41.880 Therefore, Greenland has to be ours.
00:07:45.300 In other words, we can't have this potential.
00:07:48.460 You can't be.
00:07:48.960 Denmark can't be making the decision what happens to Greenland.
00:07:53.380 We have to control it for those reasons.
00:07:56.100 And that's why.
00:07:57.280 And, you know, I'm not supporting this, but I'm just saying he was.
00:08:01.460 We tried to tell everyone in December.
00:08:03.440 We actually did a read.
00:08:05.480 That is true.
00:08:06.420 Coming up to Christmas.
00:08:07.400 Everyone should just listen to this.
00:08:09.280 But no one did.
00:08:10.420 No, it didn't.
00:08:11.260 And, you know, the one thing we're learning about the U.S. and Donald Trump is they are
00:08:17.760 on a mission.
00:08:18.720 They're going in a direction.
00:08:20.400 When we were all off at Christmas, they weren't.
00:08:23.000 Right.
00:08:23.380 They were working on an invasion plan.
00:08:25.840 They were moving.
00:08:27.200 They were.
00:08:27.480 They were almost doing that plan on Christmas Day.
00:08:29.980 That was the original.
00:08:31.380 From Florida.
00:08:32.180 They would, you know, move their command post right beside the golf course.
00:08:36.980 And they were moving forward.
00:08:38.600 Had to stop being dropped some bombs.
00:08:40.280 Yeah, exactly.
00:08:41.760 But they are, you know, I think we're seeing again, he's plotted a plan and he's going
00:08:51.460 to move in that direction.
00:08:53.960 You know, Paul, I don't think people are ready to read a document from Donald Trump.
00:08:57.580 He does a lot of talking.
00:08:58.880 We don't hear a lot about his documentation of strategy and planning.
00:09:03.100 Right.
00:09:03.440 Here it is.
00:09:04.180 Here it is.
00:09:04.760 Okay.
00:09:05.100 Well, two things.
00:09:06.120 I doubt that he wrote it.
00:09:07.780 No, I think we all know who wrote it.
00:09:11.040 But the other thing is.
00:09:11.980 He's already done jail time for Trump.
00:09:13.700 No matter what you think about Mark Carney, what he said today is echoing the feeling
00:09:19.220 of world leaders.
00:09:20.900 Yeah.
00:09:21.200 What we had.
00:09:21.820 The old way is gone.
00:09:23.040 What we had in place that provided security and trade agreements and, you know, staving
00:09:28.740 off small problems that could turn into bigger problems.
00:09:32.360 And then just hearing our prime minister use the phrase that only conspiracy theorists were
00:09:37.320 good to use before the new world order coming out of his mouth, not once, but twice in the
00:09:42.920 same speech.
00:09:43.960 It's because he's seen like the reality is staring him in the face and the threats from
00:09:50.200 Donald Trump to leave NATO, the end of NATO.
00:09:53.760 That means all those massive U.S. military bases in Germany, in Italy, in the UK.
00:10:01.160 If they leave, you know who it benefits the most?
00:10:05.140 Vladimir Putin and Russia.
00:10:06.660 Yeah.
00:10:07.120 There's no American military presence in Europe.
00:10:10.580 He could do whatever he wants.
00:10:11.780 Now, the other thing is, and Jim, you kind of pointed this out when we were talking earlier,
00:10:15.420 you can send a military operation out of an air base in the Midwest of the United States
00:10:22.040 undetected, make a bombing attack and be back at home before dinnertime and nobody can stop
00:10:31.020 you.
00:10:31.140 Nobody.
00:10:31.900 So do they need to have military...
00:10:33.440 They've got technology coming online that's even more advanced than that.
00:10:35.400 Do they need to have a military base then that is strategically placed in Europe or anywhere
00:10:40.020 else or even Greenland at this point?
00:10:42.900 You know, that makes me wonder, okay, Greenland sounds like a bully point because if you're
00:10:46.540 weaponizing, allows you to reach across the world in a couple of hours and make devastating
00:10:52.240 moves, why do you need to be in Greenland?
00:10:54.240 For Navy reasons, I believe they think with a bigger military presence there, it's a bigger
00:10:59.020 defense against anyone coming.
00:11:01.880 They have...
00:11:02.240 No, no.
00:11:02.440 You have to get through them first to get to America.
00:11:04.340 And I see that.
00:11:05.400 The radar would go off.
00:11:06.360 Exactly right.
00:11:07.180 And all the tripwires.
00:11:08.160 Yeah.
00:11:08.280 Okay, so really, set the tripwires, set up the radars, but the military...
00:11:13.280 But he wants to control it.
00:11:14.080 Like what he's saying here, Mike, he's saying he wants...
00:11:16.500 He doesn't want to have to ask anyone for the rights.
00:11:19.840 He doesn't want to have to ask anyone for the accesses.
00:11:22.620 He doesn't want to have to, you know, call Denmark and ask if he can do this or depend
00:11:27.720 on them to do something or worry that they're going to sell part of that continent or the
00:11:33.020 country to anyone else.
00:11:35.360 For example, the Australians to do mining to the Chinese, for example, maybe to do resources.
00:11:41.980 As Canadians, we've got to wake up fast, fast.
00:11:46.080 Because when he posts on Truth Social, one photo of him planting the American flag in
00:11:51.080 Greenland and the next photo is a map of North America.
00:11:54.000 Yeah, Nick, if you don't mind, we'll put that up at this point, that map of this hemisphere.
00:11:59.880 That's not done by accident.
00:12:01.640 No, no, that was pretty nicely drawn.
00:12:03.920 There's a reason that's being posted and constantly thrown in our face.
00:12:07.740 It's beyond 51st state.
00:12:09.880 It's this is all part of America now because resources and strategic reasons.
00:12:15.280 And what as a country can we do about it?
00:12:17.780 The speech today by Prime Minister Carney in Switzerland is not just to the world, but to
00:12:24.180 Canadians sort of sleepwalking through their lives, the reality that we're facing.
00:12:28.700 Establish and expand access in strategically important locations.
00:12:33.340 Northern Canada is the most important.
00:12:35.560 We've been deemed a strategically important location.
00:12:37.800 100%.
00:12:38.880 He said it right here.
00:12:40.400 And let's face it right here.
00:12:42.520 The brains in the Pentagon and the White House and Trump would rather see bloodshed and destruction
00:12:48.840 in Canadian soil before it crosses the 49th parallel.
00:12:52.740 It's interesting to note something, Paul, you said earlier.
00:12:56.520 The American perspective on this, and Jim, you pointed out you lived in California as a
00:13:01.700 youngster, as a teenager.
00:13:03.640 Americans barely care about the North as it is.
00:13:06.200 It's like, you know, you know, you, you know, aside from New York, you pointed out that some
00:13:10.660 of the kids you went to school with in California didn't know where Maine was.
00:13:13.200 And Paul, you point out it's a capitalist society.
00:13:16.220 Oh, yeah.
00:13:16.720 They're not, they're not interested in virtue signaling like we are.
00:13:20.000 They're not all that interested in putting the environment.
00:13:23.140 They don't care about Canada.
00:13:24.500 And they certainly don't care about us.
00:13:25.980 No, no.
00:13:26.480 Well, look at, you know, you look at the primaries right now in the U.S.
00:13:29.040 I don't know if you're following it at all, but quite frankly, he's doing fairly well.
00:13:32.620 I am shocked that he is doing as well as he's doing.
00:13:35.740 But the primaries are in November, correct?
00:13:37.700 Yeah.
00:13:38.040 So the polling for the polling for everything between now and then, who knows what he's
00:13:43.120 going to do on the world stage and who knows how that affects the polling.
00:13:46.720 And it only emboldens him to see these polls, by the way.
00:13:49.460 So, oh, yeah.
00:13:50.320 You know, every time somebody puts out that he's doing a good job, he pushes a little
00:13:53.380 bit harder.
00:13:54.300 Can I throw some at you?
00:13:55.240 This is interesting.
00:13:55.980 So you go on.
00:13:56.740 So this is again.
00:13:58.920 And I know the speech this morning from our prime minister.
00:14:01.940 I get it and I understand it.
00:14:03.860 But in this paper, the national security paper, he says, in the Western hemisphere and everywhere
00:14:09.800 in the world, the United States should make clear that American goods, service and technologies
00:14:14.320 are far better to buy in the long run because they are higher in quality and do not come
00:14:23.740 with the same kind of strings that other countries' assistance.
00:14:26.940 That said, we will reform our own system to expedite approvals and licensing, again, to
00:14:33.400 make ourselves the partner of choice.
00:14:35.780 The choice all countries should face is whether they want to live in an American-led world of
00:14:41.300 sovereignty countries, sovereign countries and free economies, or in a parallel one in
00:14:46.860 which they are influenced by countries on the other side of the world.
00:14:50.520 Yeah.
00:14:50.720 He doesn't want us dealing with other hemispheres.
00:14:53.700 But here's the irony.
00:14:54.740 The number one selling car in the U.S. is usually the Corolla or the Honda Civic.
00:15:00.360 Yeah.
00:15:01.060 And they're on a Chinese-made iPhone.
00:15:04.840 You know, so he's saying all that.
00:15:07.200 But the fact is, most of the manufacturing, a lot of the stuff that's consumed, Nike, most
00:15:12.880 of it's made in Vietnam.
00:15:14.120 Yeah.
00:15:14.420 Well, they say if you wanted a pair of Nike shoes manufactured in the USA, you would start
00:15:18.400 at $1,200 U.S.
00:15:20.240 But is that okay?
00:15:21.360 And I get you, but is that, you know, and he'll blame that on the Biden administration
00:15:28.200 and previous administrations.
00:15:30.300 Yeah.
00:15:31.040 Is that about to become a thing of the past?
00:15:33.820 So, you know, I'm not, I don't know what his...
00:15:36.180 So force Nike to make stuff in America.
00:15:38.380 Force Apple to make their phones in America.
00:15:40.360 Exactly.
00:15:40.980 So is this all, you know, when he pulled all those tech oligarchs around the table and
00:15:45.800 he said to them, hey, time out, you know, you're coming back to the United States.
00:15:51.080 And they're like, well, I can't produce that phone for, you know, $399.99.
00:15:56.480 That thing's going to go up to $1,200.
00:15:57.860 And he's like, fine.
00:16:00.240 And he said it to them.
00:16:01.740 He did.
00:16:02.200 He said, you know, the member of Apple, you know, the CEO.
00:16:05.320 Oh, Tim Cook?
00:16:05.840 Yeah, he was like, yes, sir.
00:16:07.940 You know, I'll figure it out.
00:16:09.220 Don't worry about that.
00:16:10.160 You know, they all were, they all came to the table relatively quick.
00:16:13.760 And as this changes, as this doctrine, you know, comes into effect, he's, you know,
00:16:21.900 rebuilding the U.S. in this vision.
00:16:24.920 And he, you know, from the sound of it, he sees that moving to us.
00:16:31.200 Paula, what cost?
00:16:32.400 What, like, the damage being done to the relationships, and for you in business, relationships are
00:16:39.440 everything.
00:16:40.220 To do something to your benefit, to ruin the relationships of this leader, that leader,
00:16:46.100 your friends, these countries, relationships that may not be rebuilt.
00:16:50.500 He does not operate that way.
00:16:51.660 He has no friends.
00:16:53.060 He's had no friends since the day he started.
00:16:55.860 So say you're the next U.S. president.
00:16:58.220 Then you start, say, whatever, President Wixson, you have no friends, no trading partners,
00:17:04.440 nothing.
00:17:05.020 Yeah, he doesn't care.
00:17:06.000 But does he foresee?
00:17:07.020 So this is interesting, too.
00:17:08.600 And then, you know, on a bigger global scheme, does he foresee the world forming into bigger
00:17:15.380 nations?
00:17:16.920 Yeah, I think he sees the four-quadrant planet.
00:17:19.180 Exactly.
00:17:19.840 Right.
00:17:20.020 So China, India, you know, the United States.
00:17:23.900 So he sees, you know, four to six players, potentially, in the end run here.
00:17:29.460 Super countries.
00:17:30.180 Say five super countries.
00:17:31.360 Yeah, five super countries.
00:17:32.500 Right.
00:17:32.780 And they amalgamate.
00:17:34.000 They just go in and assume all these other countries.
00:17:36.900 And quite frankly, that becomes the new...
00:17:39.660 When they...
00:17:40.160 And, you know, when they talk about new world order, which I hate that expression, quite
00:17:44.060 frankly.
00:17:44.700 I like it in wrestling.
00:17:45.760 It gives me the creeps.
00:17:47.880 It's weird.
00:17:48.300 It just feels like from a bad movie.
00:17:51.820 But, you know, if that's what it is, it's that what he's envisioning.
00:17:56.500 Because when you read this strategy, it sure does look like that's what he's forming.
00:18:01.540 So the reason he's pulling back to the Western atmosphere is I'm going to control this and
00:18:08.620 you're going to stay there and we're going to be big enough to actually do commerce within
00:18:14.360 our own hemisphere.
00:18:17.540 Well, think about that.
00:18:18.820 Go ahead, Mike.
00:18:19.000 I'm sorry.
00:18:19.380 No, please.
00:18:19.740 Think about that what does...
00:18:20.580 What that happens at the moment that you have super countries or quadrant countries around
00:18:27.420 the hemispheric countries or alliances.
00:18:30.960 First of all, the first thing that Donald Trump hates is being part of NATO because it is too
00:18:34.780 far away and he's not interested in participating with all these other countries.
00:18:39.300 But secondly, if he sets it up this way, he only has to deal with Paul in that hemisphere,
00:18:46.860 Jim in that hemisphere.
00:18:48.740 You go deal with your problem.
00:18:50.820 Here's what we need from each other.
00:18:52.360 And four deals are cut, not 154 deals.
00:18:57.140 But so you're telling me countries around the world, countries in around the world with
00:19:04.400 two, three, four, five, a thousand years of history, all have to join together, Spain,
00:19:10.800 France, Italy, and England and Germany to be one country.
00:19:15.100 I don't know.
00:19:17.680 Like, it's difficult to think.
00:19:18.940 Like, I mean, as a proud Canadian, it's one thing.
00:19:21.040 We're only X amount of old.
00:19:23.080 But think about some of these countries around the world who are five, six, seven times older
00:19:27.320 than us.
00:19:27.780 And now they're all going to have to be one?
00:19:29.980 Here's something interesting.
00:19:31.480 While there's no precise count, research and expert analysis, notably from U of T's Aisha
00:19:37.280 Ahmad, suggests a hypothetical U.S. invasion of Canada would trigger widespread sustained
00:19:42.700 resistance, potentially 400,000 people in an insurgency or 1% of the population, turning
00:19:49.460 the country into a costly decades-long quagmire for the U.S., akin to historical insurgencies
00:19:55.420 like Afghanistan.
00:19:56.740 And despite Canada's smaller formal military, experts point to Canada's high civilian gun
00:20:01.740 ownership, urbanized population, and the history of resistance.
00:20:05.500 What are your thoughts?
00:20:06.840 How do we handle?
00:20:07.660 There are the U.S. coming in with this new world order in this hemisphere.
00:20:13.300 There's no question there will be a segment of the population who would try to entertain
00:20:17.800 a guerrilla campaign.
00:20:19.460 But there's a large segment of the population who escape war-torn countries and poverty and
00:20:25.960 famine who don't want their house blown up, don't want to risk their family's lives.
00:20:31.600 That's the big question.
00:20:34.900 Are you willing to have your house blown up and have you and all your family killed in
00:20:39.460 a guerrilla war?
00:20:40.660 You know, they are one EMP blast away from just hooking us up to their hydro and giving
00:20:45.940 us that out.
00:20:46.740 So, you know, there's a lot of distance between here and there, but it doesn't feel like it
00:20:53.260 when Trump is moving so fast.
00:20:55.500 You know, he's barely out of Venezuela and he's headed to Greenland.
00:20:58.300 And the whole world is up his ass about this and he still doesn't care.
00:21:03.480 Who's going to stop him?
00:21:04.760 That's what he thinks.
00:21:05.960 No, no.
00:21:06.280 He has a majority.
00:21:08.360 So...
00:21:08.680 No, muscle-wise.
00:21:09.920 Oh, muscle-wise.
00:21:10.840 Yeah, muscle-wise.
00:21:11.700 And quite frankly, we did a show earlier, right?
00:21:14.460 It's an empire now.
00:21:16.440 Yeah.
00:21:16.860 Because Russia...
00:21:17.580 It's not a republic.
00:21:18.300 No, it's not.
00:21:18.800 He's moving on his own steam.
00:21:20.740 Yeah.
00:21:21.140 Regardless of, you know, like today or tomorrow or whatever, the day the decision on tariffs
00:21:26.720 come down.
00:21:27.840 Oh, the court decision?
00:21:29.260 The court decision.
00:21:29.620 Yes.
00:21:30.100 They've already said, Scott Besson and the group has already said, that's fine.
00:21:34.380 Whatever it is, we have other avenues to enact tariffs.
00:21:39.060 Right.
00:21:39.520 So we're just...
00:21:40.440 If that's one, we'll just go another direction.
00:21:42.680 That's where we're going to go.
00:21:43.520 And so they're going to just keep moving.
00:21:45.200 And that's the decision they've made.
00:21:48.040 You know, they've been transparent.
00:21:49.440 The one thing we can say, you know, criticism, I think there's lots of it.
00:21:53.920 They have been very transparent of what they want to do.
00:21:57.920 Well, Trump is a pretty transparent guy, minute to minute.
00:22:01.220 You know, if he does not...
00:22:02.100 He's not in depth.
00:22:03.080 No.
00:22:03.460 If he doesn't like the way his shoes feels, Buster Brown's a piece of garbage.
00:22:08.160 So he really does shoot from the hip a lot.
00:22:12.040 What frightens me is that document is very well thought through.
00:22:16.480 It's a strategy that we're already seeing happen.
00:22:19.560 His plan for strategic empire building in North America is on paper.
00:22:25.340 And so far, everything he said he's going to do, he's sticking to.
00:22:28.940 And here's the problem for Canada and a lot of the countries who are opposing him, who are just in the infancy of rebuilding their armed forces and military.
00:22:36.900 But it takes time.
00:22:39.200 Yeah, if we wanted to do something, how long would it take us?
00:22:41.760 Two, three, five years until a lot of this equipment's online.
00:22:44.080 We can't get weapons in under 10 years in this country.
00:22:46.780 I don't know.
00:22:47.380 And especially if they're U.S. suppliers.
00:22:49.800 And so here's the issue.
00:22:51.740 They're not going to weaponize us, are they?
00:22:52.960 So say you're, okay, I'm going to have to buy helicopters from Airbus and tanks from Germany and guns from the U.K.
00:23:00.500 By the time we get them, it could be over.
00:23:02.380 And let me put it to you this way, Jim.
00:23:04.440 If we show up needing 40 planes and the U.S. shows up needing 400 planes, whose business are you taking first?
00:23:13.860 The U.S. is going to win just based on your buying power.
00:23:16.660 That's what's happening with the F-35 Lightning in the Canadian first, the tranche of 16 planes.
00:23:22.360 Yeah.
00:23:22.860 You have to wait till they've supplied the U.S. Air Force and Navy.
00:23:27.500 Then you get yours.
00:23:28.720 Also, they're always going to get first.
00:23:30.480 What supply chain comes out of the U.S. that could be stopped in the process of building any of this weaponry or getting us ready again?
00:23:36.700 We do a lot of business with the U.S.
00:23:38.660 I'm going to imagine everything from bullets to uniforms.
00:23:41.380 We don't make anything.
00:23:42.780 So everything we're going to get, we're buying from someplace.
00:23:45.580 Let me guess, mainly the U.S.
00:23:47.540 All they have to do is say, nope, we're not supplying you these goods, these goods, and these goods.
00:23:51.780 And that procurement suddenly takes 15 years longer.
00:23:54.960 If you can even get it.
00:23:56.400 If you can get it.
00:23:56.920 And, you know, recently, you know, he wants to increase his military budget to $1.5 trillion.
00:24:03.840 He's at $1 trillion now, Paul?
00:24:05.480 $1 trillion.
00:24:06.220 So they're just under $1 trillion every year.
00:24:08.060 Yeah.
00:24:08.380 So in a massive, massive industry.
00:24:11.400 And they want to increase it really to a wartime budget.
00:24:15.820 So that's what they're looking to do.
00:24:17.420 So he'll get it, my guess is, because of the control he has.
00:24:22.080 And so he'll get the approval for it, and he'll put it into play.
00:24:25.460 Now, here's something you talked about before our meeting here about Trump's negotiation tactic.
00:24:31.360 Say, for sake of argument, he pulls back on 51st state but tells Canada, I won't do this, but you need to do this, this, and this militarily.
00:24:39.460 And that means buying your tanks from the USA, no more Saab Grippens.
00:24:46.320 You'll buy it from us.
00:24:47.600 Let me see what the answer would be.
00:24:49.820 We're in.
00:24:51.440 Whatever you want, we're going to do that.
00:24:53.420 And if he all of a sudden says, I'm going to do this and I'm not going to do that now, but you need to do this and this, the U.S. military industrial complex has jobs for decades now supplying all these countries.
00:25:05.380 What if he says, we're going to employ your military, but we're going to make them part of the U.S. military based in Canada?
00:25:11.760 That's another option that I've seen presented out there.
00:25:16.060 Again, the American goods, services, and technologies are far better to buy in the long run because they don't come with strings.
00:25:24.740 So he's saying it right there.
00:25:26.060 Like, he really does believe that we should be doing that right now.
00:25:31.000 And I think that's a mistake we're making.
00:25:33.340 So we got into tariffs and we chased down tariffs.
00:25:35.840 We're like, no, we're not going to do tariffs.
00:25:37.380 We're going to go to globalism.
00:25:38.760 You know, the prime minister today, they had a question, you know, about globalism.
00:25:42.780 And he's like, you know, it's we need to trade with different countries.
00:25:46.280 And he's been, you know, on a tear going around, meeting with everyone, trying to set up deals, you know, so he can keep, you know, goods and services and investment in Canada.
00:25:55.800 I get it.
00:25:57.080 But here you have another guy, you know, Trump, on the other hand, he's saying, quite frankly, you shouldn't be worrying about any of that.
00:26:05.880 Come on here.
00:26:06.360 No, no, you don't have a choice.
00:26:07.860 It's not come here.
00:26:08.920 You are going to come here.
00:26:11.200 So stop wasting your time.
00:26:12.280 You're going to pay whatever price, because with that procurement of goods and services and technologies, it comes to a condition that you're going to be part of the Western Hemisphere family.
00:26:25.940 I mean, and then it goes back to what Carney said about weaponizing the economy.
00:26:29.620 If he says, you're not allowed to build any cars in Ontario, there goes our automobile industry.
00:26:35.860 But if that's the interesting thing.
00:26:38.020 So let's talk about the difference between Americans and Canadians.
00:26:40.500 So this is kind of where I really noticed it coming, you know, having lived in the States, come back.
00:26:45.040 I really noticed it.
00:26:46.380 What do Americans do in that case?
00:26:48.860 If that happened to Americans?
00:26:50.800 Yeah.
00:26:51.320 It does happen to America.
00:26:52.560 You know, a mine closes.
00:26:54.060 Yeah.
00:26:54.680 I don't know.
00:26:55.100 What do they do?
00:26:56.300 The U-Hauls pull up.
00:26:59.820 And they move.
00:27:00.720 And that town's dead.
00:27:01.860 Yep.
00:27:02.860 So that means potentially Windsor and Oshawa and Oakville could be decimated.
00:27:06.400 The mortgage meltdown.
00:27:07.280 I watched Florida.
00:27:08.100 I watched U-Hauls moving, like literally thousands of U-Hauls packing up and moving out of Florida.
00:27:12.500 I was there.
00:27:13.380 And Americans understand.
00:27:15.200 And then they start up again.
00:27:17.360 Like, they're very resilient that way.
00:27:18.580 Go to Oklahoma.
00:27:19.480 Go to Ohio.
00:27:20.040 They basically, and, you know, their housing show, a lot of times, there are some beautiful neighborhoods in the U.S. with very wealthy people.
00:27:30.280 But for the most part, the average citizens live in very humble abodes, right, that are made out of wood.
00:27:37.200 Siding.
00:27:37.820 Siding.
00:27:38.460 No foundation.
00:27:39.640 Yeah, no foundation.
00:27:40.940 No basements, right?
00:27:42.060 Yeah.
00:27:42.220 When it's time, the house gets sold for $65,000 and they're down the highway in the U-Haul.
00:27:52.140 I heard a funny story about this.
00:27:53.500 And they're good with that, right?
00:27:54.740 Yeah.
00:27:54.880 They're understood.
00:27:55.620 That's kind of their.
00:27:56.400 That's capitalism.
00:27:57.880 Well, it's also part of their military training.
00:28:00.400 So a lot of them, a lot of them who don't, who aren't born wealthy and don't come from, you know, the hub or echelon, they join the military and they're taught to be ready to move, be ready to adapt, be ready to build.
00:28:14.840 This operation will end and we will move on.
00:28:16.920 Exactly.
00:28:17.500 So they're very good.
00:28:18.200 You know, the guys I work with, right, I was always shocked, like, how resilient they were.
00:28:23.300 Like, you know, I'd come in the morning, I'd be bummed out about a problem.
00:28:26.020 Like, they'd be on a whiteboard strategizing the problem out and ready to go.
00:28:30.940 Right.
00:28:31.500 Like, you know, whereas I was, it'd take me a minute and I'd be like, holy cow, we're going, right?
00:28:34.820 And then we'd go and we'd figure it out.
00:28:36.700 And, you know, we'd all pitch in and it was a, it was an initiative.
00:28:40.080 So we did it.
00:28:41.240 But that's a very different, like, well, we, you ask a Canadian to move across country for $1,000.
00:28:48.560 Forget about it.
00:28:49.620 Okay.
00:28:50.020 Ask an American.
00:28:51.220 Okay.
00:28:51.600 They're in the U-Haul.
00:28:52.820 Like, man, they're packed.
00:28:53.940 Right.
00:28:54.120 But for $1,000.
00:28:55.360 To that point, what Carney said today, all his, basically his sound bites and everything that's going to be viral around the world, I think part of it was to Trump and the world leaders.
00:29:07.380 And I think part of it was to average Canadians to understand the comfortable life they've been living the last 30, 40 years.
00:29:13.700 It may be changing and be ready.
00:29:15.580 And you may have to do what you just described and move to Moncton or move to Prince Albert, Saskatchewan.
00:29:21.320 It does seem like a signal.
00:29:22.740 Like, hey, this is the reality we're living in.
00:29:24.600 Well, so it's interesting.
00:29:26.180 We're getting ready for a show on mining.
00:29:28.900 And so we were doing some research on the most successful mining countries in the world.
00:29:32.560 And so as we dug into it, you know, pun, as we got into it, what we found is we started looking at projects like in China, for example.
00:29:41.040 Yeah.
00:29:41.160 Oh, my goodness, right?
00:29:44.880 They roll up and create cities for a million people like in a year.
00:29:49.540 Yeah.
00:29:49.980 They build the, they build a infrastructure.
00:29:52.240 With the roads and rail.
00:29:53.360 With townhomes.
00:29:55.180 Theaters.
00:29:56.500 Grocery.
00:29:58.400 Malls.
00:29:59.020 Like literally they roll in.
00:30:00.720 And in one year they have like home after home after home and recreation and soccer fields and everything.
00:30:06.800 And they basically take a million people.
00:30:08.320 Okay, you're going over there.
00:30:09.600 And it may be a one generation.
00:30:10.840 A million people show up and live in this stuff.
00:30:12.700 It could be a one generation project.
00:30:14.860 Yeah.
00:30:15.100 So any routes that you're making in that moment, if you're a mining family, you may be taken to another part of China.
00:30:21.420 So that could mean the ring of fire in Northern Ontario.
00:30:24.000 Hey, if you want mining jobs, get ready to live north of Timmins because that's where the jobs are going to be.
00:30:28.660 But we are not good at that.
00:30:29.640 No, but if we're seriously wanting to do it.
00:30:31.360 We have to build the infrastructure.
00:30:32.440 Think about that.
00:30:33.120 How many people do we, like, again, I'm not trying to be difficult with the ring of fire.
00:30:38.500 But think about it.
00:30:39.620 If we were seriously committed to the ring of fire, right, a road would not be the full discussion.
00:30:44.180 A road is a small thing.
00:30:45.400 A road.
00:30:45.880 It would be housing, recreation, water, rail, hospital.
00:30:51.900 You know, it's a military op, right?
00:30:55.020 You've heard it when you're younger, right?
00:30:56.660 It's a military op, right?
00:30:57.780 And, you know, yesterday on Brian's show, after the show, I talked to him about troops going to Greenland.
00:31:03.840 It was really interesting.
00:31:04.920 And we're going to do a little show.
00:31:05.920 By the way, if you can, go back in time.
00:31:08.960 Look under military on our website.
00:31:11.060 Brian Isted is a valuable set of eyes on what our military is doing.
00:31:16.420 A great episode there.
00:31:17.480 Yeah.
00:31:17.680 And his perspective on the number of people who support, like, one warrior soldier.
00:31:25.380 So one frontline soldier who's, you know, the guy who's shooting or the guy who's blowing stuff.
00:31:29.300 Exactly.
00:31:30.000 Dozens.
00:31:30.420 He said it was a five or six to one behind.
00:31:34.020 So for each guy, there's six people supporting.
00:31:36.200 So when they go somewhere, like, there's five or six people on their tail who are setting up, like, housing, logistics, ammunition.
00:31:44.360 Like, there's a whole group of people that handle all the back stuff, the admin of it.
00:31:48.780 And he was walking us through.
00:31:51.000 Mining and projects to that size are the same thing.
00:31:54.720 Like, if we were seriously interested in doing that, we'd be basically landing on site with, like, 100,000 people.
00:32:03.120 And turn it into Fort McMurray.
00:32:04.680 Exactly.
00:32:05.680 Like they did for the tar sands, right?
00:32:07.320 Exactly.
00:32:07.540 But we're fighting over, we're still, we're months.
00:32:11.360 Fighting over environment.
00:32:12.460 We're fighting over indigenous rights.
00:32:14.160 And by the way, we're hearing from many of the indigenous business people, we don't need the government's involvement.
00:32:20.320 Where we have land here, we're good to mine.
00:32:22.020 So let's get to work.
00:32:22.720 Because they want the money, too.
00:32:24.240 Once they don't want subsidized, they want that, they want the resource.
00:32:27.040 Run a survey and ask people living in Toronto or Vancouver how many of them are willing to relocate.
00:32:32.600 Right.
00:32:33.860 To a town that has no relocate.
00:32:36.320 Yeah, exactly.
00:32:36.920 Well, even, you know, ask them if they're willing to relocate to Timmons or Sudbury.
00:32:40.860 They will say no.
00:32:41.660 You're 18.
00:32:42.900 You graduate high school.
00:32:45.460 Okay.
00:32:46.360 Job market sucks.
00:32:48.080 Do I want to go in the military?
00:32:50.200 Do I want to maybe try something new and go to a mine for a couple years, make some bank, and live a life, and then see where I want to go from life?
00:32:57.960 That's the kind of people they need to recruit because there's the youth unemployment in Canada is such an issue.
00:33:03.640 And they're saying, hey, there's jobs that will pay you $30, $40 an hour.
00:33:07.980 I see no news, no spreads in the newspaper saying, come to the ring of fire where we're establishing a new life for you.
00:33:14.860 And in the States, they do that.
00:33:16.720 Right.
00:33:17.040 If it was Vegas, for example, and they were getting into...
00:33:19.680 Alaska.
00:33:20.480 Or Alaska, they were developing it.
00:33:22.240 Yeah.
00:33:22.640 They would give you a reason to do it.
00:33:24.920 But is that the message we were getting?
00:33:26.320 To Jim's point earlier, where we got on this tangent.
00:33:29.040 Is that the message he was sending us today?
00:33:32.660 Yes.
00:33:32.820 Because that was interesting.
00:33:33.540 I was reading that, too.
00:33:34.520 I was listening, and I'm thinking to myself, yeah, I think he is saying, listen, if you want your sovereignty, get ready.
00:33:41.520 We're going to have to roll up our sleeves here and, you know.
00:33:44.760 He talked about a 300,000-person reserve force.
00:33:49.180 Yes.
00:33:49.580 Which we haven't had in life.
00:33:52.100 Because there's no way to enable that.
00:33:54.140 Our reserves are ready.
00:33:55.140 There's stories online and comments in our own feed saying, hey, man, I signed up for the reserve.
00:34:01.120 I went through the medical and everything.
00:34:02.600 I never heard back from them.
00:34:03.640 I finally just gave up.
00:34:05.260 Yeah.
00:34:05.720 So we're not even servicing people that want to be part of it.
00:34:08.360 So then Carney's saying, hey, from top-down, leadership, infrastructure, recruiting, job placement, everything, you may have to go.
00:34:17.180 The new way, the new town is going to spring up here on the border of Saskatchewan and Manitoba, and it's a drilling mining town, and that's where work is.
00:34:26.340 Because think about how Canada, Western Canada, was settled.
00:34:30.660 People going out there to farm and mine and drill once upon a time.
00:34:34.540 And I think he's kind of saying, you're right.
00:34:36.920 This is how we're going to sustain us.
00:34:39.360 I hope we have the ability.
00:34:41.280 You know, listen, I hope and pray that we have the ability to get there and we're having these conversations.
00:34:47.180 The speed at which this is all moving.
00:34:51.100 Two weeks from now, we could be talking about our sovereignty for real.
00:34:53.980 Oh, yes.
00:34:54.760 Yes.
00:34:55.340 Yeah, I think that's the, to your point, that's the critical timeline we're on.
00:35:01.320 And I think people aren't kind of still getting it, you know, as we're going through.
00:35:05.980 And they're watching this and thinking, oh, you know, this is just talk.
00:35:09.580 No, there is a strategy.
00:35:13.060 It's been laid down.
00:35:14.320 There's a set of principles.
00:35:15.380 Think about a business plan of a company, right?
00:35:17.700 Which Trump would have done in his own world.
00:35:20.740 Maybe he didn't do it so well.
00:35:21.940 Maybe he did better at times.
00:35:23.300 You know, he did bankrupt a bunch of stuff.
00:35:25.520 So, but he did do it and he understands that there is a mission, there is a value set, there is a, you know, task list.
00:35:33.180 There's all these things that fall into this company.
00:35:36.180 If you read this strategy paper, it very much is a mission, value, directional statement for a business plan almost.
00:35:45.000 It looks like a pivot for a major corporation.
00:35:48.940 Yes.
00:35:49.320 Business plan.
00:35:49.900 Yeah, it does.
00:35:50.680 It looks like, okay, here's how we did this.
00:35:52.580 Now we're following the market this way.
00:35:54.360 And it does, it does look very, very business oriented.
00:35:59.620 It also really smells of it to me.
00:36:06.040 Sorry, guys.
00:36:06.800 No, it smells crazy at a hundred miles away.
00:36:11.600 What Trump's doing?
00:36:12.600 What he's doing.
00:36:13.060 He's bonkers.
00:36:13.760 He's absolutely, I mean, is he?
00:36:16.140 I don't know.
00:36:16.960 But the problem with it is this document presented to a Canadian, presented to a European, presented to somebody in the Middle East.
00:36:24.020 It looks really isolationist.
00:36:26.660 It looks really.
00:36:30.080 Four, four or five.
00:36:34.300 Yeah.
00:36:35.020 Yeah.
00:36:35.440 But yeah.
00:36:36.200 Countries left.
00:36:36.940 That's what it looks like.
00:36:37.920 Yeah.
00:36:38.200 It looks like in the end, he is an emperor.
00:36:40.740 He does, he does, he's using the Caesar model.
00:36:44.400 He's kind of Genghis Khan for the modern day era.
00:36:47.100 With orange hair.
00:36:47.940 Yeah.
00:36:48.520 Yeah.
00:36:48.720 Although we, we never really determined that about, uh, Genghis Khan.
00:36:51.840 But to your, to your point, gentlemen.
00:36:53.160 So think about, you talked about the reality we're facing, how it's, it's happening so fast.
00:36:58.200 Most Canadians, most people around the world, they're getting clips from Jimmy Kimmel and Stephen Colbert.
00:37:03.760 Yeah.
00:37:04.220 It's a, it's a comedy, uh, soundbite on your social media feed about Trump and ha ha ha.
00:37:10.300 And it's people making jokes and it's political cartoons without doing a deep dive and drilling down as you want to do, Paul, into the nitty gritty of what's actually happening.
00:37:20.540 And this is a bigger overarching thing in society where we're, life is flying by.
00:37:25.660 We're not really paying attention until it's too late.
00:37:27.720 Yeah.
00:37:28.320 He's not, you know, there's no comedy in any of this, right?
00:37:31.000 No.
00:37:31.160 He's not looking at, you know, you, you saw his kind of direction on the, uh, media, TV, uh, movies area, right?
00:37:41.780 Yeah.
00:37:42.080 He basically just, you know, you guys go away, right?
00:37:44.600 You know, I'm not dealing with any of this.
00:37:46.760 Comedians, everyone, you know, this is serious stuff.
00:37:48.880 I'm not doing media.
00:37:49.400 I do my own discussions as I see fit.
00:37:52.280 I'm not answering your questions.
00:37:54.240 Yes.
00:37:54.580 He's decided the direction he's going and quite frankly, you can make light of it all you want.
00:37:58.800 It's not going to change my direction.
00:38:00.940 You can not like the fact that I want this country.
00:38:03.800 You can not like the fact that I want to do this.
00:38:05.680 You can not like any of it.
00:38:07.200 It doesn't really change my course, which is very American.
00:38:10.500 Having lived with Americans, you know, that's what I did learn, uh, quite frankly.
00:38:14.680 You know, it, it doesn't really matter once they've picked their direction, they're going in that direction.
00:38:19.480 It's, it's like they're going to move in that.
00:38:21.480 And that's part of the, I think second term Trump has realized.
00:38:24.580 The power that he left behind the last time he was around, you know, he wants to shore up.
00:38:29.540 Well, his power past four years.
00:38:33.040 I mean, this is a guy that is likely to create a state of emergency in his own country and doesn't care to keep power and not care.
00:38:39.300 He's 78.
00:38:40.800 He's, he's on his last term, right?
00:38:43.840 I just, well, legally, I mean, unless he does something illegally, uh, his, his give a shit meter about what people think about him, of what the world thinks about him, about what happens.
00:38:54.320 The, the collateral damage.
00:38:56.380 He doesn't care.
00:38:58.140 Well, apparently.
00:38:58.720 Carney actually said, Hey, he was telling everyone, let's face it.
00:39:02.440 This is what we're dealing with right now.
00:39:04.700 Like this is happening right now.
00:39:06.760 And we got to live it right now.
00:39:08.240 Carney's not uncomfortable dealing, uh, on the internet, in the international market.
00:39:12.500 He's a banker.
00:39:13.260 Done it for 40 years.
00:39:14.080 And so he's not afraid to avoid doing business with America because he's seen what other countries are capable of doing.
00:39:20.980 Oh yeah.
00:39:22.040 I think our sovereignty is the last question in this.
00:39:25.820 And I think if you polled Canadians, they would tell you that they want to stay Canadian.
00:39:30.300 But if you showed them even a marginally better life, their sovereignty, I think would begin to fade into the distance a little bit.
00:39:38.180 We are, as you point out, Jim, not the oldest country in the world.
00:39:41.660 No, we wouldn't be the first time the U S went in.
00:39:44.080 And acquired a country with way more years of history and way more culture.
00:39:50.300 Um, I, I, I think that it is a real possibility that we have to take a look at how we're going to handle sovereignty.
00:39:58.000 Does it come with the backing of China?
00:40:00.120 Does it come with the backing of Europe?
00:40:02.580 Do we have a Middle Eastern strategic partner?
00:40:06.320 Because they are our neighbors.
00:40:08.340 We don't have a hell of a lot of choice if they decide we are America.
00:40:11.580 It's the longest unguarded border in the world, but we're going to be told, my guess is, and this is, you know, estimate, guess, right?
00:40:19.360 You know, my guess is after tomorrow, after the speech, we're going to be told about their relationship to NATO.
00:40:26.260 And then from there, that'll be this next set of steps that'll be enacted where we will at some point be told how that's all going to go.
00:40:36.880 Guys, let's do this again after Trump speaks.
00:40:39.980 Yes.
00:40:40.480 Let's regroup again and see where our opinions go after this, because I think you got a great point, Paul.
00:40:46.760 Until he speaks, anything that anybody says leading up or thereafter means very little unless it's related.
00:40:52.400 And Canadians have got to be really paying attention.
00:40:55.860 And I don't care who you like, who you don't like, who you, I don't like that.
00:40:59.740 Let's start listening for a second right now.
00:41:01.920 What's really happening?
00:41:02.920 Because some pieces are falling into place that could have ramifications for our nation forever.
00:41:08.720 I don't like losing hair, but it's my reality.
00:41:12.800 Right?
00:41:13.360 So do we have to adjust?
00:41:14.820 We'll see.
00:41:15.420 Guys, thanks.
00:41:15.960 I appreciate it.
00:41:16.460 Thanks, guys.
00:41:17.000 Thanks.
00:41:17.240 Thanks.