True Patriot Love - Carney’s Majority Changes Canada Until 2029

00:00:00.000 well canada whether you like it or not or you're ready or not here it is mark carney and the

00:00:09.480 liberals have a majority in the house of commons after a combination of floor crossings in a clean

00:00:15.120 sweep in the by elections on april 13th to talk more about it as always thrilled to be joined

00:00:19.800 by paul micucci paul how are you good jim how you doing good it seemed like a fait accompli heading

00:00:25.180 into the by-elections at worst it would have been two of the three they got all three they have 174

00:00:31.980 seats and they're going to be in power with really no worries about any kind of election for the next

00:00:38.540 two and a half years yeah yeah and do you mind if we get in sorry to bug you with stats no you know

00:00:44.220 i'm a stats guy yeah i broke it down and i looked at it after and i thought myself my goodness

00:00:49.340 is the country become that disengaged with this topic and it really kind of got me and i know by

00:00:56.180 elections tend not to be the the most uh well attended uh the best turn yes but quite frankly

00:01:02.940 this was these were three by elections that created the final majority absolutely and you

00:01:09.380 know it's interesting because we had floor crossings you know we had the the new uh libcon

00:01:15.380 caucus that's now uh within within the in the big tent in the big tent everyone's welcome in the

00:01:22.180 new libcon caucus was in the big tent right yeah so and you know that that occurred and and we

00:01:29.280 thought okay you know and then they came out over the weekend and said we don't want the majority

00:01:35.060 be to be taken through floor crossers we really want it to be votes in these by-elections which

00:01:41.720 was well positioned i think that's all positioning and you know good for them they did a good pr job 0.69

00:01:46.920 in getting us to believe that so we bought into it but you know these are three by-elections that

00:01:53.080 were really deciding the direction of our country like you said up until 2029 without question so

00:02:01.240 here we go right this was very interesting and and the first thing that jumped out to me is that

00:02:06.920 They won each of these by-election ridings with 20,000 votes.

00:02:15.280 But it was not even close.

00:02:17.020 Even in Terrebonne, Quebec, it wasn't even close.

00:02:19.980 But they won it with 20,000, right?

00:02:22.240 So the number of eligible voters, so if we go to Rosedale, was 93,000.

00:02:28.880 So they got 21% of 93,000.

00:02:31.860 Yeah.

00:02:32.560 Right?

00:02:33.360 Now, let's back up and look at what the Conservatives and the NDP got.

00:02:38.080 The NDP got 5,859 votes, and the Conservatives got 3,843,000 votes.

00:02:46.080 Now, you're familiar with where this is at in Toronto, right, Rosedale?

00:02:49.540 For people not aware, the Rosedale area of Toronto is some of the wealthiest homes in the country.

00:02:56.380 It's akin to West Mount of Montreal or the exclusive North Vancouver area.

00:03:02.080 So it's one of the elite, big money, old money neighborhoods in the city.

00:03:06.640 Right.

00:03:07.140 Which, quite frankly, there's a lot of conservatives and liberals live within this rioting.

00:03:13.360 Big time.

00:03:15.160 For the conservatives to go out and not to be able to identify over 10,000 voters to vote conservative in this rioting is unbelievable.

00:03:26.060 And for the NDP to beat them in this rioting is even more incredible.

00:03:31.380 I can't say I'm surprised, Paul.

00:03:33.220 I'm not surprised.

00:03:34.300 I know Chrystia Freeland, she had this writing.

00:03:36.920 She did a good job at it. 0.96

00:03:38.100 She really entrenched it as a liberal.

00:03:40.500 But you know what?

00:03:42.120 You think that through modern technology and databases, you would have been able to figure

00:03:48.220 out the number of conservatives that live within this area and go canvas them.

00:03:54.000 And here's the interesting thing.

00:03:55.600 When you watch this by-election, Jim, and we were watching it very closely, the liberals

00:04:00.100 do a really good job of going door to door and getting their vote out so they take the young

00:04:04.660 conservatives and what they do is they have them go door knock so and they watch when you make a

00:04:10.020 vote there's a there's vote sheets that are at the uh election centers and so what can they do is

00:04:15.940 they look and see who hasn't voted in their database and then they go knocking on the door

00:04:21.460 and saying hey you haven't voted yet we only have so many hours to vote the conservatives don't do

00:04:26.100 that for the most part they're not very aggressive they don't have a ground team the liberals always

00:04:30.500 have a ground i will say this don't interrupt but in my writing sandra cubana new market aurora she

00:04:36.100 knocked on literally every door every house in her writing yeah and that's why she won but think

00:04:41.540 about this on all the liberal signs in this by-election there was the candidate and there

00:04:47.220 was mark carney yeah because he's got a 68 approval rating and people believe he is needed to steer us

00:04:54.660 through the next few years these candidates these by-elections for the conservatives were on their

00:05:00.340 own you didn't see pierre paulia's face beside the candidate's face because right now he's he's

00:05:06.500 an anchor around their neck he is well we're going to talk about that for a minute in a minute but

00:05:11.460 i just want to let me get through the stats so here we are you know rosedale didn't figure out

00:05:16.980 a way no right got beat by the ndp so really didn't try let's be serious and you know i heard

00:05:23.060 yesterday i was uh downtown i had a meeting uh uh young street and uh front i i finished my meeting

00:05:31.300 and i run into a buddy of mine who's uh with one of the political parties and we're talking and he

00:05:37.860 says to me you know a lot of rumors on the conservative side that they actually told their

00:05:43.220 people just not to compete here to stay home that it felt like it that well then that i said oh come

00:05:48.660 on come on you're kidding me right he said no that a lot of people on the conservative side are

00:05:53.680 saying in this riding they were asked not to compete take a step back but but then what are

00:05:59.860 you doing what like why if you're not going to compete and you don't think you have a shot in

00:06:05.320 every riding then that's the wrong approach that is definitely the wrong approach and and whether

00:06:11.740 you like it or not someone needs to sit down and have a conversation with them and say okay shake

00:06:16.560 your head you need to get back in the game in every riding in today's in today's world with

00:06:22.960 technology and databases and the ability to database mine and the ability to meet people

00:06:27.780 and go talk to people and create caucuses and factions to vote there's no excuse that you

00:06:33.140 should believe that you're going to lose in every riding no no paul i i'm not disagreeing with you

00:06:37.940 because everything you say is factually correct in all economic and math levels yeah but i'm

00:06:43.880 looking at it from a strategic level of poly of his inner circle the conservatives they know that

00:06:50.040 if it's a minority government and there's election they would get absolutely crushed

00:06:54.240 like right now even with the majority the liberals have 174 yeah the conservatives still have 140

00:06:59.940 seats that's not chump change it isn't but in an election right now in this spring they may have

00:07:06.800 50 i mean they will i mean there are some predictions they would lose over 40 seats

00:07:12.600 they'll have right now in an election to the liberals it would turn and it would be a huge

00:07:17.260 difference so they can't afford an election right now on many levels because they've got problems

00:07:21.840 within the party to work out over these next few years right no no i'm with you i know we're going

00:07:26.820 to talk about that in a minute because i think there's some reasons there's some reasons uh that

00:07:31.840 the liberals created that and there's also some luck so i want to talk about that absolutely i

00:07:37.180 think you know sometimes hard work and luck create your fate right and quite frankly in this case

00:07:42.860 scarborough southwest so this is a really interesting one another 20 114 right dolly

00:07:49.920 won that uh you know she did a good job she went to her her caucus her her country people she did

00:07:56.600 a very good job and she she she got the vote out john tory historically a tory conservative

00:08:02.660 campaign for her yeah well i'm with you but you know the conservatives got 5 300 people

00:08:08.940 um the ndp got 1700 people which i actually in scarborough southwest considering the writing

00:08:15.900 it's in i thought the ndp would get more yeah well i'm surprised by that it is but again you

00:08:20.860 know here's here we are and this is very interesting and this is just kind of politics

00:08:24.920 101 right so if you're running against a candidate that has a rich history with another country and

00:08:31.420 has a large immigrant group running against you you either find someone in that group yes who can

00:08:38.140 uh try to offset that political voting power and connect of that faction and connect with those

00:08:43.860 people and get them out to vote right americans do it jim having lived in america they do it so

00:08:49.640 well i probably ran uh 10 bills in my life in the u.s and i had to go to different caucuses within

00:08:57.780 uh you know the italian caucus the african-american caucus i had to go and i had to get support from

00:09:03.880 each of those caucuses to actually win votes to get bills passed right right you know that's just

00:09:11.700 the the reality of what you have to do so you have to go and you have to find out what they need what

00:09:15.680 they want what their political uh pressing point is and how you're going to address it overcome it

00:09:22.020 and get their support that's politics and if you're not doing that politics and if you're

00:09:27.160 letting your opponent play that politics and not playing that politics you're not being realistic

00:09:33.640 at this point so you're not in the game and you're not being smart so in this case quite frankly if

00:09:38.860 you couldn't find another group in scarborough southwest to counter the vote dolly's vote then

00:09:45.480 you're not competing and in this case competing in this case so but here's the thing here's here's 0.98

00:09:51.740 the interesting thing of this right she ended up with 23 percent of the eligible voters right

00:10:00.840 so she won it again in the first one we talked about in rosedale

00:10:04.020 um they win it with 21 percent really an unknown candidate doctor you know doctor but a liberal

00:10:12.360 but a liberal but you know no one really knew her and quite frankly they don't care she's a liberal

00:10:16.640 as you said you could run a watermelon there and they would have won as long as it's liberal

00:10:20.340 exactly that cup would win that cup and my shirt would yeah you know you know and so here you are

00:10:27.080 so another 20 000 you're only getting 23 of the vote but here another six percent another six

00:10:34.360 percent for the uh conservatives and you know uh in the rosedale riding they only got four percent

00:10:41.500 of the eligible borders so now you're still under 10 so are you you know at some point you got to

00:10:47.000 say to yourself, hey, you know, if I can't organically get 10% of the vote based on my

00:10:52.080 brand, based on my database, based on my mark, then I got a challenge, right? Now, Tarabon,

00:10:58.360 right? Interesting scenario. It was won by the liberals. Again, another 22,000. In this case,

00:11:06.320 they ended up getting more. So they ended up getting 24%, almost 25% of the eligible voters,

00:11:14.760 which was 91,000 that's still low though 25 percent of the eligible voters for as you say

00:11:21.400 what could be a game-changing by-election in the country people are so dissatisfied with politics

00:11:28.120 and so checked out they just don't care to vote well so the interesting so look at the now i'm

00:11:33.160 going to go to the total so all three by-elections got 106 000 people to vote right right eligible

00:11:41.480 voters, there were 271,000. That's all you need to know. So you got, you know, 39% is what you

00:11:51.200 got out. So you got a really low. You got a third in such a critical by election. So then this

00:11:57.060 morning coming in, I went to, because you know, I w I'm interested, you're interested. I know

00:12:01.540 you're interested because we talk about it all the time. I went to Mike and I said, Mike, I said,

00:12:05.860 i want to see if many people are even interested this in this anymore so do me a favor go look at

00:12:12.960 the tv ratings you know mike has a tv background yeah so he went on and he came back to me goes

00:12:18.580 it's about a hundred thousand all the mainstream tv channels that actually did shows on it yeah

00:12:24.000 i said you're you're kidding me so it was a hundred thousand people came out live to vote

00:12:29.360 And across the nation, 100,000 people watched.

00:12:34.580 Out of 41 million.

00:12:35.920 Out of 41 million.

00:12:37.300 Yeah.

00:12:38.260 A vote that actually switched the majority over to.

00:12:41.060 So, you know, you can take credit and say I'm a rock star.

00:12:43.980 They love me.

00:12:45.220 I'm doing really great.

00:12:46.980 But forget the party for a minute, right?

00:12:49.340 This just says something about the politics and the time we're in.

00:12:53.040 Yeah.

00:12:53.800 People have disconnected from this.

00:12:56.280 And they've disconnected.

00:12:57.420 They're not watching it.

00:12:58.400 They're not interested in it anymore.

00:13:01.180 And I think a little bit of it is, and people are going to laugh when I say this, it's the taco syndrome, right?

00:13:12.140 What happened was we've been going through this up and down yo-yo, and people have, again, disconnected because I said, you know what?

00:13:19.680 I can't watch this anymore.

00:13:21.000 You have this U.S. neighbor of ours.

00:13:25.660 They're running all around the world.

00:13:27.740 they're telling another nation to come out of their houses and revolt over in iran they're 0.69

00:13:33.360 dropping bombs telling them to give up because they've sunk their navy to the bottom of the sea

00:13:38.580 they bomb actually made an ai image of him as baby jesus healing people and try to say no i wasn't

00:13:45.840 jesus i was a doctor exactly you know plan you know how many were on plan five to take over iran

00:13:52.620 we've failed five times i think we're we're now in the second uh ceasefire peacekeeping discussion

00:13:59.260 you know we said peacekeeping's on then we said peacekeeping's off now jd vance wasn't even there

00:14:04.300 a whole day and he left today we're back talking again when i was driving in this morning mike

00:14:08.460 coffee they're back talking well mike you know what i don't want to talk about anymore i said

00:14:11.740 this is silliness i don't want to have any more discussions i don't want to see anyone uh buy

00:14:16.140 another stock because they think iran is going to be settled right i don't i don't want to see any

00:14:20.300 this more so i think what happened and you know to mark carney's luck not credit i'm not saying

00:14:26.060 that he did anything to do this i think he's just caught a wave in the middle of this quite frankly

00:14:31.420 of people disconnected i think they're so sick of it at this point they're sick of walking the floor

00:14:37.100 they're sick of by elections they don't want to hear about the tent and the libcons and this new

00:14:42.460 faction and what you got is you got a disconnected group of canadians looking at a bio now the

00:14:49.260 The brilliance with which I think the Liberals did have in these three by-elections is they

00:14:55.520 went quiet.

00:14:56.520 They just disappeared.

00:14:59.520 The Monday after their big convention.

00:15:02.580 But I don't even think the convention, honestly, Mike and Brady went together.

00:15:06.980 And quite frankly, I think once Marilyn Gladue, she did the Gladue slide across from blue

00:15:14.740 to red.

00:15:15.740 I hate you.

00:15:16.740 I love you.

00:15:17.740 Let's go.

00:15:18.740 once she did the shuffle and she made it over to the other side i don't think it mattered i think

00:15:23.340 what happened was they decided that there's no point talking about this anymore because

00:15:27.480 they shut it down i think they wanted it to be a big thing i think they set it up to be this big

00:15:32.420 convention and a lot of rob rob yeah yeah i think as it started on fall they're like oh we got to

00:15:36.740 shut this down so i think they dialed down the temperature kind of dis and by disappearing

00:15:42.120 pierre polyevot already uh pigeonholed himself not thinking about any strategy whatsoever went

00:15:50.560 to the u.s you know did joe rogan became the kettlebell expert yeah and uh started running

00:15:55.620 around didn't realize quite frankly that he couldn't come out in attack because he was trying

00:16:00.860 to change his reputation of not being the pit bull and he's failing well it i'm going to give

00:16:07.840 you two examples why he's failing it's backfiring on him yeah 10 a week ago he holds a press

00:16:13.060 conference and he's answering questions for people and a cbc reporter keeps going to the conservative

00:16:20.180 media relations person holding the mic and asks a question he would they refuse to let her ask

00:16:26.120 one question now if he's supposed to be this pierre paulie of 2.0 does he not have the guts

00:16:32.200 to answer one question from a cbc reporter then he goes on a podcast and says mark carney's

00:16:38.940 uneducated in economics now i can criticize mark carney about a lot of things i saw that yeah the

00:16:44.720 man went to harvard yeah yeah and you're like so why would he say like when he shoots himself in

00:16:50.880 the foot how can anyone take him seriously when he does things like that he obviously hates the

00:16:56.180 media fine but you still have to man up and answer the questions and criticize carney all you want

00:17:01.520 to criticize him thinking he's uneducated in economics for god's sakes he ran the bank of

00:17:07.400 england the bank of canada yeah that's just silly it is silly it is silly and you know

00:17:12.740 without having a strategy you know he he went into that u.s tour and you know interesting strategy

00:17:20.140 but quite frankly they didn't tie to the by elections where the mistake was they didn't

00:17:25.780 tie the by-elections into the tour, right? And so the tour probably was best held after the

00:17:34.700 by-elections. It was in the wrong order. Quite frankly, you would have been better to be out on

00:17:38.640 the campaign trail of the by-elections, being in the community, trying to show that you were

00:17:44.660 actively trying to gain support for your party, win or lose, you know, because that's what you do

00:17:50.100 when you compete not going down and trying to change your image on u.s podcasts and and quite

00:17:56.740 frankly it didn't come off great i know that some of the podcasts were okay but it didn't help him

00:18:01.100 and case in point to your point jim the numbers don't lie the numbers don't lie it only actually

00:18:06.880 dropped him because if the strategy had worked and i think quite frankly one of the issues that

00:18:11.520 i think came up during that is his own uh head of pr quit yeah i think after 10 years she tapped

00:18:18.640 out yeah she realized like this strategy isn't going to work and quite frankly um we we went in

00:18:24.400 the wrong direction again at the end of the day i think the majority are canadians we're seeing 68

00:18:30.960 approval rating are like you know what i don't trust any political leader right now in this

00:18:35.600 country to steer us through the next two two and a half years other than mark carney mark carney is

00:18:41.120 a guy we believe can deal with trump and steer us to 2029 to the point that doug ford the premier

00:18:47.360 of ontario spent three weeks before the by-election talking to reporters every chance he had saying

00:18:52.880 it's a good thing if carney gets a majority so we can work together and battle trump trump trump

00:18:59.040 they kept hammering at home yeah and then you saw the result i see the result i i'm gonna add a

00:19:06.240 condition on that sure i don't disagree with anything you said the condition being for it is

00:19:12.080 the result for 20 of the population but they knew they don't know but all you have now in canada is

00:19:18.400 20. so yeah you know you're talking really so you're out of 40 million people you may be talking

00:19:28.480 you know take out uh seniors over a certain over 70 or 80. right so you're really looking at maybe

00:19:37.520 you're addressing 30 million max right so you're six million people right so your audience has come

00:19:45.540 become down to you know six million people out of all eligible canadians so that's who you're

00:19:50.300 talking to that that is your sphere of influence and that's who you're talking to and that's sad

00:19:55.640 because quite frankly uh you've disconnected whether you're red blue purple whatever you are

00:20:03.140 yeah you've disconnected yourself so much so which is interesting because we had uh uh max

00:20:09.200 bernier yeah right interesting comments from max we had him on the show and you know i i was

00:20:14.300 interested to watch and we asked him this question and we said how do you think you're going to do

00:20:18.040 in the by-elections right well i think we're going to uh i think we're going to get some votes

00:20:23.820 they got 575 votes in his home province yes right they got 265 in scarborough southwest

00:20:34.040 and 205 in rosedale so they're they're not a serious political party when you only get it

00:20:41.500 i mean that's like that's nothing but you know quite frank and you know this is where i think

00:20:47.720 they all need to sit down and sort of think through some some strategy and positioning

00:20:52.780 in this day and age with databases in this day and age with uh technology in order to only get 200

00:20:59.800 people is almost impossible like literally my own personal rolodex i could have gone into i could

00:21:07.960 have gone into rosedale and got a thousand people those votes smack of it's a protest vote i hate

00:21:15.060 the bloc quebecois i hate the liberals hate the conservatives i'm going to vote for them

00:21:19.420 and that's my protest vote but in protest i get it i get it but but even if you're just looking

00:21:25.980 for the protest vote there there has to be a way for these even smaller parties whether it be ndp

00:21:33.060 ppc there's got to be a way for them to grow just through technology and influence and conversation

00:21:39.340 but they're not having any they're not putting the effort in you know whether it's newsletters

00:21:44.320 newspapers whether it's drops whatever they're doing in the communities they go into these

00:21:48.380 elections they don't have anything on ground they don't have any plans it's not well executed jim

00:21:54.380 they're terrible at it quite frankly and you know they've got to acknowledge they're terrible at it

00:22:00.200 if you're terrible at something you either got to fix it and quite frankly we shouldn't make

00:22:05.620 allowances for this but in the current economic climate that we're in and as much as we hate to

00:22:10.940 bring it up trump is having a huge sphere that hangs over us like a dark cloud i don't think

00:22:17.540 the average canadian looks at avi lewis or max bernier as someone they think can deal with trump

00:22:24.060 so the 20 20 jim so not the average no no i don't want to say average anymore i want to call it like

00:22:30.900 it is fine but only 20 percent of canadians pay any attention to any of the parties so yeah so

00:22:37.220 yeah agreed like you can do that you can do the you can do the heroes walk on this all day long

00:22:42.020 But the rest of Canadians, I'm saying the rest of Canadians, all you're representing right now, don't care about politics.

00:22:48.460 They feel no one listens to them.

00:22:50.320 Exactly.

00:22:50.760 Their voice isn't heard.

00:22:52.260 They go to the grocery store.

00:22:53.880 And after all this talk, I still can barely feed myself.

00:22:56.780 They're having trouble putting gas in the tank.

00:22:59.000 They don't know whether their kid's going to be able to get a house on their own.

00:23:02.540 They are very worried and they don't feel like anyone is answering their questions.

00:23:07.060 Yeah, which is great.

00:23:07.960 So can I, you just gave me my argument that I was going to make.

00:23:11.640 So, which you always do. Right. So, therefore, if I'm a political opposition to the party, yes, to the liberals right now, if I'm if I'm the official opposition, I feel so strong and emboldened to fight because, quite frankly, I know that the right now all of us only have 20 percent of eligible voters in Canada.

00:23:34.160 so therefore the rationale to quit in any specific writing is bizarre it's bizarre it doesn't prove

00:23:41.600 the math doesn't prove it out I know Pierre Polyev loves the math right because he's always talking

00:23:46.280 about you know he's to your point he accused Carney of not being good at economics okay Pierre

00:23:51.680 here's some here's here's some math that supports voting right okay yeah if only 20 percent of the

00:23:58.120 people are coming out to actually vote for your major opposition, that leaves 80% of the vote

00:24:04.400 available for you. And if you don't see that, quite frankly, and you didn't see that these

00:24:09.660 ridings were a possibility, then you should think about that. You should start thinking about what

00:24:13.740 are the possibilities of me doing this better to get another 10% this year, to get another 10%

00:24:19.840 next year, to get myself ready for voting. And I'll play the devil's advocate, Paul.

00:24:24.340 So instead of thinking, well, if it's a minority government, there's election, we've got 60 days to do something.

00:24:32.100 Now he has two and a half years to do exactly what you're talking about, to reach all those disaffected and dissatisfied and disenfranchised Canadians who feel no one's talking to them.

00:24:45.100 They feel like no one listens to them.

00:24:46.680 They don't have a hope.

00:24:47.700 So now he can go coast to coast to coast for three oceans and go all over this country for two and a half years while Carney's busy running the country.

00:24:57.020 And create your database.

00:24:58.200 Right.

00:24:58.640 Right.

00:24:59.520 But he won't.

00:25:00.540 But he won't.

00:25:01.600 Then they have to get a new leader.

00:25:03.080 And the PPC won't and the NDP won't, Jim.

00:25:05.860 There's no interest for these people.

00:25:07.640 What we've created is we've created this lethargic, unproductive political system that they won't go do it.

00:25:13.620 And that is bad. 0.94

00:25:14.680 then change it so pick you know let's get okay suzy slobber knocker how do we scarborough and we 0.94

00:25:20.740 think she's going to be the next leader we're putting you in sorry pierre you're out and we're 0.88

00:25:25.020 going to be going by god we'll knock on every door in this country for the next two and a half years

00:25:29.040 so everyone knows about suzy and votes for the next election well you know what and i so then

00:25:33.880 i came getting ready for this show i'm thinking about this conversation because i know you know

00:25:38.020 you would have definite opinions on it so then i actually sat down and i said okay

00:25:42.800 what countries have mandatory voting australia yeah mexico yep right brazil but there's a bunch

00:25:50.400 of them yeah there's a bunch of them yeah let's go to mandatory so i'm all for it i know well we

00:25:55.500 always say we're all for it i'm with you but let's give us an incentive though yeah if you vote you

00:26:00.960 get like some tax break a day off a day off a day a paid day off we we just did a show on the lack

00:26:08.240 of productivity in canada it was a minimum wage show which everyone should watch because we're

00:26:13.800 not against minimum wage we're not against uh breaks and lunches and everything we're about

00:26:18.760 canadians making more money and getting parity with wages with the united states which has grown

00:26:24.100 to over almost 20 000 more than canadians make on average and that's we got to change that as a

00:26:28.960 country you know in the paper this morning i'm reading you know the toronto sun had a great

00:26:32.700 article if anyone wants to read it about the removal of the middle class from canada it's

00:26:37.740 i've been reading it everywhere security well yeah sure we just did a show about it in winnipeg

00:26:42.220 right so so now we're starting this crazy conversation but we don't want to talk about

00:26:46.900 how to make ourselves more productive in in this case from elections let's go back to elections

00:26:51.800 for a minute let's make mandatory voting let's make it everyone get a day off couldn't agree

00:26:56.500 more go vote that'll take care of the issue if if our political parties don't want to campaign

00:27:03.460 and they don't want to get out and vote and get the vote out then we should actually make voting

00:27:10.180 mandatory so then people get a day off and when they go to the voting box they might spend an

00:27:15.060 hour or two or maybe a day or two or maybe for the interested six million that are currently

00:27:20.020 the 20 people voting right now that were in this by-election because that's where i think

00:27:25.140 i i know you know we got more people out to vote in last election because of

00:27:32.820 a renewed interest we've lost that again but the think about they always say the lower the voter

00:27:39.060 turnout the better it is for the incumbent well of course and doug ford's won two majorities the

00:27:43.620 last two elections with barely any turnout in the province of ontario oh yeah horrible turnout

00:27:48.500 well you know i used to it's interesting and one of our beloved politicians across canada

00:27:52.900 hazel mccallion you know i used to uh when she used to come around i used to have a coffee and

00:27:58.820 talk to her you know she'd say you know i win i win mississauga with 85 000 votes is that right

00:28:05.700 yeah wow so ten percent of the most a million people mississauga yeah well it's less now it's

00:28:10.820 it's been a declining municipality for the last like five years but but you know uh population

00:28:16.340 wise but but you know she used to talk about it she's you know i i'm the incumbent and quite

00:28:21.540 frankly if i get if i get above 60 000 i know i'm gonna win i just i just feel so many canadians

00:28:28.580 paul feel like they've been double-crossed lied to promised things didn't get them

00:28:36.020 they're seeing the prime minister spend half a million dollars on catered food and can force

00:28:41.940 one in 12 months yes okay that's tough to reconcile with telling your kids we can't

00:28:47.860 go there this weekend because we can't afford it and that's a tough one right and i you know as

00:28:53.780 you're watching all this you know and it's hard to watch you're watching all this u.s political

00:28:58.100 rhetoric it's depressing right he's talking about the elimination of societies and stuff like it's

00:29:03.700 very hard to watch because you know and then you wake up in the morning you're driving or anything

00:29:07.540 oh man that's a tough drive because i'm you know i'm worried for these people in iran i'm worried

00:29:12.500 for this you know this whole society of people now i'm and you and then on top of it you know

00:29:17.800 you're struggling with your all the affordability issues you're disconnecting you're disconnecting

00:29:23.420 from a wide swath of people and so therefore to reconnect with them we have to create formulas

00:29:28.960 and policies to get them back into play mandatory voting is a good thing to think about now yeah it

00:29:34.100 really is i i know you know there's going to be a lot of hubbub because of course if i'm in the

00:29:38.660 liberal shoes right now as you're mentioning in the incumbent i don't want it right but but look

00:29:44.380 paul if if by 2029 we have an election and somehow pier polio is still the leader of the conservatives

00:29:51.220 it doesn't matter if there's 90 voter turnout the liberals won't lose because there's so many

00:29:58.700 people in this country will only ever vote liberal yes and to convince the ones on the fence you need

00:30:04.880 a different leader it's the the message and the voice and the style of governing and running his

00:30:11.360 party and dealing with reporters and dealing with people it's not working so they're destined to

00:30:18.040 always be number two destined yeah well you know we did as you know we went out to the conservative

00:30:25.060 convention we we sat there we understand sort of what they did to get him back in as the party

00:30:31.260 leader or to get him to keep going that's a that's a conversation they have to have now right they do

00:30:37.740 they need to sit down and say okay is this worth and then do i want to compete or are we actually

00:30:42.460 just going to cruise into the next one lose again and so that that really becomes but then it becomes

00:30:48.300 you know you're looking at it now is it a single party country now so have we yeah because you

00:30:54.620 really got to look at these you've got to look at these results that are the results that predicted

00:30:59.500 and were well predicted not contested had poor voter turnout for majority of the country to get

00:31:07.260 majority of the country you got to look at and say okay have we have we got and if we have you know

00:31:13.420 can we save a lot of money at this point can we save a lot of money and the next thing if we're

00:31:19.100 not going to compete then it it does become a longer term strategy so i think if the if the

00:31:26.220 the liberal government is cemented now then we should start doing some planning based on an eight

00:31:32.920 year and a 12 year cycle which i think quite frankly would be better for the country four

00:31:37.420 year election cycles are you know i would be against that no i i i'm sorry i i can see where

00:31:44.220 you're going but you know i i would be against that long because unfortunately the longer you're

00:31:50.300 in power the bigger risks already there's some stories about you know different you know they

00:31:58.060 have the integrity commissioner about different things they're doing wrong and breaking rules

00:32:02.460 and the longer you're in power the better chance there is a rule breaking and trying to skirt the

00:32:07.320 system and that's not good for Canadians Andrew Coyne of the Global Mail wrote a fantastic column

00:32:12.340 basically saying all these floor crossings to get a majority is wrong and not good for Canada

00:32:17.740 and there are so many people now paul to go back to your point are saying why would i bother to

00:32:23.400 vote i'll vote for nick the producer great guy but then two weeks later he crosses the floor

00:32:28.880 why did i bother right and how did they get the message across the canadians that your vote still

00:32:33.900 counts when the person you put the faith in and voted for went to the other party that you didn't

00:32:38.920 believe it right all the more reasons just validated which is is to retool the we need to go back and

00:32:46.780 retool the whole system right yeah whether it's mandatory voting whether it's floor crossings

00:32:51.260 these are all the things that need to be looked at and really analyzed because if your disengagement

00:32:56.520 is this high then it really speaks to the fact that you need to look at it i mean is it going

00:33:00.880 to get better in the next few years that's why i don't see it improving unless there are systemic

00:33:05.880 changes like there we create you'll get a guaranteed paid day off to vote maybe that'll

00:33:11.900 change things but right now why would you why would it change economic collapse is the only

00:33:16.420 So the only thing that will get people to re-engage in it in any form or substance is collapse.

00:33:22.740 If our economic system collapse, which I hope doesn't happen, no one wants that to happen,

00:33:27.980 but that is the only way people are going to come back into the fold because out of necessity they'll have to pay attention again.

00:33:33.700 And even then I think it's going to be hard because right now with no middle, with the middle leaving.

00:33:40.340 The middle class is almost done in Canada.

00:33:41.780 You're really left with, if you think about it, the 20% people that are engaging.

00:33:46.040 So if you look at Rosedale and you look at 20 percent of the people voted the liberals in there, right, that's an upper class neighborhood, as we talked about.

00:33:54.700 You know, it's that 20 percent, which makes up, you know, 60 percent of the wealth in Canada.

00:34:00.760 That's just case in point of what's happening.

00:34:03.140 So that's what's happening.

00:34:05.560 Is it is it going to get better?

00:34:07.560 I think we have to make strategic changes.

00:34:11.060 And when I say, you know, I'm going to go back to me because I want to make sure I'm clear on this.

00:34:14.980 I'm saying the planning cycle has to be 8 to 12 years.

00:34:18.440 Oh, not the election cycle.

00:34:19.480 I think you can keep your election cycle the same.

00:34:21.380 I'm not saying change the election cycle.

00:34:23.560 My God, I misunderstood.

00:34:24.660 No, no, that's all right.

00:34:25.560 And I'm glad you brought it up.

00:34:26.620 But I really think that is kind of what you're seeing in the United States right now,

00:34:32.060 which is kind of the downfall of the U.S.

00:34:34.700 And I think they're seeing it.

00:34:36.480 You have Biden, who did have cognitive challenges.

00:34:40.020 Now you have Trump, who...

00:34:41.620 Who does have something wrong with him.

00:34:43.160 Yeah, but something's going on there.

00:34:44.360 So, but you have a polar left and polar right.

00:34:48.560 No one's in the middle, right?

00:34:49.660 So it's hard to do a long-term strategy when you have such polar opposite views because

00:34:55.520 you're yo-yoing a country, a country that big, you can't pull, you know, it's like a

00:35:00.300 slow ship, right?

00:35:01.220 It's a slow turn.

00:35:02.680 You know, you have to, it's not a speedboat, right?

00:35:05.080 You can't pivot and go the other direction.

00:35:07.040 So quite frankly, you got to slowly turn if you're going to turn it.

00:35:10.020 And the problem is you get these four-year elections and the next thing you know, the

00:35:13.540 party changes off you go and quite frankly you're going in a total different direction you know

00:35:19.780 you're you're fighting legally and strategically and constitutionally all for the four years you're

00:35:26.320 trying to all you're trying to do right now when you have polar governments you're just trying to

00:35:31.580 block to get to the other side right but but now the carny has a majority and the first thing you

00:35:37.020 said the day after is enough talking we're going to get to work great and you probably won't see

00:35:42.800 of the house of commons arguing with politicians because his idea is now i get the majority i'm

00:35:47.840 the ceo i'm rolling up my sleeves and my custom built civil row seat and i'm going to start

00:35:53.520 pounding away and hammering away and getting deals done he had the prime minister of finland

00:35:57.840 in yesterday he was talking about a potential of joining the eu they skated around with the pwhl

00:36:05.040 team in ottawa i mean that's the one thing now that carney doesn't have to dick around with

00:36:10.640 arguing and debating and answering questions he won't be answering them because he's going to run

00:36:15.360 it like a company a corporation edge fund and start getting to work and i'm kind of this is

00:36:20.160 going to take away a lot of the ammunition for poly of the conservatives if he just starts

00:36:25.040 pounding away and doing things like they like they were saying he didn't do anything well now

00:36:29.360 he's going to do things it'll be interesting the next two three four months what he starts doing

00:36:34.160 and implementing yeah yeah well well you know it's and a lot of people said that he would prog the

00:36:38.720 to government once he got i don't i never thought that was a legitimate he would have lost and not

00:36:44.420 got majority i i mean maybe but he shot that down pretty quickly i'm not sure where that came from

00:36:49.680 there's always lots of rumor mills going on on parliament hill and with the ottawa press corps

00:36:54.080 but i don't see it like he has a lot of effective politicians in his caucus in his cabinet who are

00:37:00.600 effective debaters and are really good at you know doing the back and forth in the house of

00:37:05.440 comments that could do his dirty work for him. Yep. No, no, I'm with you, Jim. You know,

00:37:09.200 and I talked to him, it's interesting. So I talked to Mike, you know, getting ready for the show and

00:37:12.840 I'm sitting with him and I said, you know what, Mike, I think now they, they have majority. I

00:37:19.360 think you have to sit back now. And I say, you know, we have to just, uh, the by-elections are

00:37:25.240 done disappointed, disappointed with the turnout. I think we all are. I'm not surprised at it,

00:37:30.540 but yes, I agree. I think they probably are too. They don't talk about it. And I know,

00:37:34.700 know it's interesting when you watch mainstream tv the night of the by elections they did a good job

00:37:40.300 of pulling down the vulcan yeah i think they they went to you know 172 173 yeah you know they showed

00:37:47.820 the total seats but they did a good job because i think even they realized you know they weren't

00:37:52.220 getting a lot of people watching them they're you know they're the mainstream tv wasn't getting

00:37:57.740 hundreds of thousands they were getting 100 000 ish i mean people unemployment is so sky high

00:38:03.900 these young voters are trying to attack attract right now paul they're like i just want to find

00:38:09.140 a job i just want to make some money i just want to live they're not even thinking about a by

00:38:13.600 election or politics right now well you know what it's interesting and i'm gonna we're doing a show

00:38:18.560 on it which uh everyone stay tuned for i was just at a job fair and we put together some stuff for

00:38:25.480 for a show and i i'm going to come back and it it's a very interesting look at people looking

00:38:32.320 for work today oh wow and who's looking for work okay interesting yeah so stay tuned okay thank

00:38:37.580 you jim and uh please subscribe you know like comment and uh whether you like it or not carney's

00:38:43.980 in charge until 2029 so we'll see what kind of work he does and and we'll see what happens to

00:38:49.120 these other parties as well yeah well i think it gives them all time to retool jim and i think

00:38:53.480 quite frankly we got to support you know initiatives we're in a critical time we are we are in a

00:38:59.420 critical times so whatever decisions are made now really well well let's pull together tenfold yeah

00:39:04.580 yeah thanks paul thank you

True Patriot Love - April 16, 2026

Carney’s Majority Changes Canada Until 2029

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