True Patriot Love - April 09, 2026


Ceasefire… But Missiles Still Flying?


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A Ceasefire between Iran and the U.S. has been called, but the missiles haven t stopped hitting their targets. Is this a ceasefire, or is it just the beginning of things to come? And if so, what does it mean for the future of the conflict?

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00:00:00.000 They're calling it a ceasefire in Iran, but if you're watching the headlines, the missiles
00:00:04.220 haven't stopped. So what gives? Here's the truth. A ceasefire isn't peace, it's a pause. And in this
00:00:10.580 case, it's a fragile, messy timeout where nobody fully agrees on the rules and nobody fully trusts
00:00:16.180 the other side. Some regions aren't even covered. Proxy groups are still active and both sides are
00:00:21.820 testing limits in real time. So yes, there's a ceasefire on paper, but on the ground, the conflict
00:00:27.900 is very much alive the question now is does this hold or are we just watching the setup for
00:00:34.920 escalation to chat about this uh joining me jim lang hi mike our resident expert on so many things
00:00:45.600 and certainly uh you know what honestly on the military front you seem to have a good handle
00:00:50.160 on what's happening let me demonstrate something jim yes have peace shall we cease fire oh
00:00:56.620 Oh, I didn't expect this unguided missile coming my way.
00:01:01.240 Yeah, you know what?
00:01:01.820 We have the ability to target strike, Jim, so just bear that in mind.
00:01:06.240 But this is an interesting thing because I think, by and large,
00:01:08.860 and certainly I thought this, a ceasefire means nobody's firing at each other,
00:01:12.900 nothing's flying through the air, and everybody's taking a breath.
00:01:15.540 Yeah, to that end, just so people know, the Cambridge Dictionary ceasefire,
00:01:20.420 an agreement usually between two armies to stop fighting
00:01:23.580 in order to allow discussions about peace.
00:01:26.400 But the dictionary definition and the reality are often very different things, Mike.
00:01:31.900 Yeah, it seems to me that in modern warfare, any sort of conflict where a ceasefire is put into place, it tends to continue on.
00:01:41.700 There tends to be a certain aggression from all sides. 0.58
00:01:44.720 And as I pointed out in the intro, yeah, this is a ceasefire between Iran and the U.S.
00:01:50.620 right and the people not involved would be benjamin netanyahu and israel uh and other
00:01:57.980 proxies in the region and other gulf states yeah i mean the big thing is for iran is
00:02:05.100 we spoke about it last night the two million dollar per super tanker a 407 type toll to get
00:02:12.400 out of the strait of hormuz will rebuild their economy rapidly and with more money meaning they
00:02:19.440 rebuild the infrastructure and they can rebuild their military with that much money the americans
00:02:26.360 hit them hard but didn't beat them so for a lot of the iranian surviving members of the iranian
00:02:33.020 regime they're like we took blows we're still here and we're not scared of trump or america
00:02:39.560 right now uh the iranian people standing around and protecting uh arms linked i think was a pretty
00:02:46.100 big indicator that some form of peace needed to be had i i couldn't see uh trump violating those
00:02:53.320 kinds of uh you know rules of engagement to that degree it would have been absolute disaster on
00:03:00.240 their part so i think an agreement had to happen by eight o'clock last night there there is something
00:03:06.040 called the madman theory and in december of 1972 richard nixon had enough of the north vietnamese
00:03:13.080 not coming to the peace table so he ordered operation linebacker to unrestricted bombing
00:03:20.040 of hanoi and haiphong and they rolled in there night after night was hundreds of b-52s
00:03:26.860 and bob the bejesus out of that country until they returned to the peace table 0.77
00:03:31.500 and everyone called him a maniac and it was genocide and they were bombing everything in
00:03:36.840 north vietnam and nixon to i mean a lot of people have different feelings but he threatened to do it
00:03:44.060 and he did it and he did it for a number of days and north vietnam on north vietnam realized he
00:03:50.360 was not messing around until they got to the peace table then everything stopped and trump talked
00:03:56.280 about he tried some people say well he was doing the madman theory but he didn't do it he threatened
00:04:01.540 do it and he taco right now trump always chickens out he backed off well i don't even you know he
00:04:07.880 chickens up because he puts himself in this undiplomatic scenario that most leaders of any
00:04:15.280 any country would not put themselves in correct you know uh you know when i after this show jim
00:04:20.540 i'm gonna push you onto the ground and i'm gonna i'm gonna really give you a couple of shots to
00:04:24.660 the head yeah the reality is i'm not capable of that you're a bigger man two i don't really have
00:04:32.080 the guts to do that nor do i have the fortitude internally to do it and three there's going to be
00:04:38.600 repercussions when i go to jail for assaulting you so you know what i can say whatever i want
00:04:44.260 right right and i mean it jim i do want to wrestle you to the ground having said that i know that
00:04:50.360 it's not but if you threaten me over and over again and i'm it doesn't happen it doesn't happen 0.82
00:04:56.500 and what does the threat mean no eventually you're going to say to me shut up i like stop
00:05:01.080 threatening me to the ground right and you're you're you're not scared of the threat because 0.53
00:05:06.920 you haven't followed through on the threat and well you know what it looks to me and maybe you
00:05:11.300 can correct me on this i just took a look uh proxy groups will continue to attack each other
00:05:16.880 And that has gone on every hour since they started doing this decades ago.
00:05:24.120 And then violations begin to happen immediately.
00:05:26.980 So it's widely known that, okay, yes, we're in peace talks,
00:05:31.400 but we're going to violate those, you know,
00:05:34.020 the terms of our ceasefire ongoing as we make points in the peacemaking process.
00:05:39.880 So, you know, if I don't like something at the peace table that's going on
00:05:43.840 in our discussions, I'm liable to launch a missile at a target that's going to make a point in that
00:05:50.560 negotiation. From my standpoint, as long as Iran doesn't do something to provoke the Americans, 0.57
00:05:57.120 as long as they avoid American military, American bases, American warships, Trump and his
00:06:03.160 administration will think that the ceasefire is still on and continue to negotiate for a peaceful
00:06:08.980 agreement but but i think people need to know the missiles still yeah it's going to be it's going to
00:06:14.200 be confusing for the average citizen that on one hand they're seeing a story from anderson cooper
00:06:19.880 with the ceasefire and then there's mike wickson on the next story talking about well they just
00:06:24.100 shot two missiles into dubai yeah like i thought there was a ceasefire yeah and well the ceasefire
00:06:29.000 is very specific it's between two countries at the moment yeah and it's tenuous at very best
00:06:35.540 And to be honest with you, Trump only cares about American interests
00:06:38.220 and the American military right now.
00:06:39.880 Right.
00:06:40.260 And what's best for his administration, his presidency,
00:06:43.640 and his military in the Strait of Hormuz, the Persian Gulf,
00:06:47.120 and getting product and getting goods flowing through that sea lane again.
00:06:51.840 See, this is the thing, and we talked about this last night.
00:06:55.560 He's telling Iran, open up that Strait of Hormuz,
00:06:58.620 which was open before he started bombing. 0.97
00:07:01.140 Doing big business every day.
00:07:02.880 Yeah.
00:07:03.140 Yeah. And so now that's his demand. It's going to be a tough negotiation, I think,
00:07:07.380 through this ceasefire because they really have all the power. They'll just close the strait again
00:07:12.760 and then they'll bring back their people around the power plants. I think that we've
00:07:17.360 seen Iran demonstrate that they are a formidable opponent and they're not going to sit down.
00:07:23.580 And not easily intimidated by the American military might and the Israeli military might. 0.76
00:07:29.360 Like, they were on the receiving end of cruise missiles and smart bombs and you name it, and they're still there.
00:07:38.300 And I would have to think that in Pete Higgs' crazy mind and the people that surround him with equally crazy thoughts,
00:07:46.240 they thought unleashing American air power and a military might for a few days bring Iran to the knees.
00:07:53.420 And that didn't happen.
00:07:54.780 No, and in fact, they took losses.
00:07:56.920 And that, I think, was shocking to everybody as well.
00:07:58.840 So now let's let's and and I notice in the comments people despise when we do this, but I want to anyway.
00:08:06.380 Let's armchair quarterback this just a little bit.
00:08:10.100 OK, moving forward over the next two weeks.
00:08:13.120 Sure. Do you think that we see Israel making moves on Iran during this peace process?
00:08:20.840 Well, that is the million dollar question right now.
00:08:23.400 What does Netanyahu and the Israelis do?
00:08:26.240 And I've not seen or heard much from them about the ceasefire.
00:08:32.180 I did see something that apparently Netanyahu wasn't crazy,
00:08:35.360 that he was not advised about this beforehand.
00:08:38.140 And that is the big question mark, Mike.
00:08:41.860 That made me feel good.
00:08:43.820 That made me feel good.
00:08:45.340 That he wasn't told about it.
00:08:46.360 That he was not advised on this,
00:08:47.660 and the U.S. made the decision to do this
00:08:49.780 and push for this peace talk through Pakistan.
00:08:52.940 Seemed to make me feel...
00:08:54.400 I don't know why it seemed to make me feel better that Bibi was not in the mix on this.
00:08:59.160 But what?
00:08:59.880 I don't care what you think about Trump.
00:09:01.520 Trump or America does not need Benjamin Netanyahu and Israel's permission to go to a Pakistani emissary and create a two-week ceasefire with Iran.
00:09:11.760 They don't need their permission, and they don't need to ask them or tell them anything until they want to.
00:09:16.520 It made me laugh that two or three congresspeople posted the same thing.
00:09:20.620 Okay, we've got a pause in the war. 0.56
00:09:22.000 Now let's take a look at those Epstein files.
00:09:24.300 Is that right? 0.81
00:09:25.900 I thought that was pretty funny.
00:09:27.180 So I do think that back home in America, this pause gives people a moment to reflect on how we got here.
00:09:34.760 Right.
00:09:35.280 How we're going to get out of this.
00:09:36.580 The price they paid there.
00:09:38.380 Right.
00:09:38.900 How much this has cost at this point.
00:09:41.360 What the rebuild is going to cost.
00:09:43.020 We talked last night that it was going to be in the neighborhood of around $2 trillion to repair the damage done in that region overall.
00:09:50.800 And at $1 million or what is it?
00:09:52.960 $2 million?
00:09:53.320 Two million per ship.
00:09:54.420 Per ship.
00:09:55.200 We're still a million ships away from recouping.
00:09:58.100 And quite frankly, I think the one thing on the 10-point plan, Mike, 0.96
00:10:03.160 that I think the Americans will push back at is the Iranians want them to get rid of all their military presence in the Persian Gulf. 0.98
00:10:11.480 And I can't see Americans getting rid of all of it. 1.00
00:10:14.840 I think they'll say, look, we'll keep one.
00:10:17.320 We'll get rid of this and this, but we want one left.
00:10:20.000 And that'll be a negotiating point.
00:10:21.740 And we want it within sight of Karg Island.
00:10:24.600 Yeah, right.
00:10:26.480 And the $2 million a ship, maybe that's negotiated down to $1.5 million or $1 million per ship. 0.82
00:10:32.440 But obviously, this is the first salvo in the negotiations with Iranians. 1.00
00:10:37.340 Get rid of this. 1.00
00:10:38.240 This is much per ship. 0.98
00:10:39.500 Americans will come back because that's how negotiations work. 0.96
00:10:43.420 Yeah, I predict over the next couple of weeks that there will be conflict,
00:10:48.380 a lot of conflict between Israel and the US over this peace process. I think Iran is definitely in 0.99
00:10:54.820 a seat up front with the US in this negotiating, because like you point out, they didn't just sit
00:11:03.520 down. They said, okay, we took it on the chin. Let's go. Now what are we doing? And so I think
00:11:08.200 that that position over the next couple of weeks keeps the US and Iran at the table. But I think 0.79
00:11:15.480 that there are going to be detractors from the other states in the region. And I wonder how that
00:11:20.640 goes. I almost think that could be the break on ceasefire and the break on peace talks is other
00:11:26.680 players in the region. I might think about Dubai. Dubai has emerged as one of the top tourist
00:11:32.000 destinations in the world. They want to get their money flowing back into Dubai. Yeah, they want to
00:11:37.820 create a safe state within the Middle East. And that is, I mean, remains to be seen how they do
00:11:44.240 that at this point but because no i don't know anyone's like oh oh it's two weeks okay let's go
00:11:49.220 to dubai now for four day trip that's not in your agenda funny enough they're on sale if you need to
00:11:55.580 go look at the flight deals man i never dreamt i'd be on arab emirates airlines wow look at this
00:12:01.820 qatar saudi arabia all those countries whether it's the oil and the oil fields and the oil
00:12:09.700 ports the liquid natural gas the sulfur for uh for fertilizer the helium for microchips and
00:12:16.840 microprocessors there's so many facets the economy that are affected about this so it's the gulf
00:12:21.600 states and all the other countries that they they're eager to get a peace deal and stop this
00:12:26.860 and get the economy back to normal so bullets missiles and drones are going to fly during this
00:12:34.280 peace process but you need to know a ceasefire isn't maybe what you thought it was the next
00:12:40.440 four or five days will be very very telling um how the negotiations go are there talks are there
00:12:48.360 substantive talks between iran america and with the pakistanis mediating and if we're seeing stories
00:12:55.500 from legit sources that there's actually progress being made then you think okay
00:13:00.240 they're getting somewhere because as much as iran's taking it on the chin and keep fighting
00:13:06.000 i'm sure they want this to end as well and the fact that they're going to be potentially getting
00:13:10.660 that much money per tanker to go through the strait of hormuz they're also thinking practically
00:13:15.380 let's get the business let's get the business done and rebuild our economy yeah uh all right
00:13:20.340 the next five days we'll keep a watch on it but uh don't be surprised if you keep reading that
00:13:25.320 missiles are flying in the Middle East through the Persian Gulf region, because that's likely
00:13:30.440 what's going to happen. Thanks, Jim. Like and subscribe and comment. And isn't he a sweet 0.99
00:13:35.320 bastard? Look at him. How can you dare say that? Look at you. Thank you.
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