True Patriot Love - Charlie Kirk’s Assassination, Jimmy Kimmel’s Firing & Cancel Culture Backlash

00:00:00.000 hey guys anthony fury here welcome to the tpl roundtable sitting here with my friends paul

00:00:10.520 micucci and mike wickson how's it going guys good thanks anthony yeah yeah good to be uh good to be

00:00:15.300 hanging out with you today and talking about the conversation that well everyone's talking about

00:00:19.460 right now the tragic assassination of charlie kirk last week has has migrated into well many

00:00:26.160 other conversations and now we've gotten to the firing of jimmy kimmel for reasons that well it is

00:00:32.400 how you want to frame it if you ask different people what happened they're going to say different

00:00:35.680 things and kind of brings us to an interesting conversation about where the culture is headed

00:00:41.280 so we've got people saying getting rid of kimmel uh or and other people being let go of their jobs

00:00:46.960 or shows or whatnot is is cancel culture uh they're saying no it's not cancel culture it's just

00:00:51.440 consequences for your actions private sector thing doing it's doing its thing uh but then other

00:00:56.360 people turning around and saying well yeah it is reverse cancel culture and that's what we need

00:01:00.260 because we're sick of the left canceling us so it's time to get a bit of that sweet revenge to balance

00:01:04.780 them out or what have you and then the question of is this going to lead to more atomization more

00:01:09.760 division coarseness of our culture and paul we were talking about before filming uh the differences

00:01:15.240 between american culture and canadian culture so what it all means here so let's uh let's get into it

00:01:21.240 the hot topic really of the week culturally where are we going with this mike well i get uh i got a

00:01:27.520 little worried right i mean certainly the shock that we all felt over the charlie kirk thing whether

00:01:32.020 you uh liked him or hated him and boy social media has done a whirlwind on that uh from both sides and

00:01:39.640 some horrible stuff's being said and of course on the other side some uh uh martyr martyr canonizing

00:01:45.780 and martyrdom being applied but what i was worried about the most and maybe you were in the same boat

00:01:52.280 was how is america going to react and will this become a more polarizing moment will this draw

00:01:57.780 people apart from one another at a time that's really that's not a good idea right now and so far

00:02:04.760 it seems to be keeping to social media and the media and i'm a little relieved i thought it would be

00:02:10.520 a little more drastic than that but but everyone's talking about it at the water cooler at the kitchen

00:02:14.600 table so how are they talking about it in a like observer way or are people are people split over

00:02:20.800 this is this like you know family and friends being angrily divided do you think oh yeah for sure you

00:02:26.600 know i was driving in and i'm listening to another podcast and the podcast is actually doing the text

00:02:33.120 messages uh between the shooter and his lover and basically that's the podcast they're actually

00:02:40.520 reading minute by minute and they're so suspicious of this thing that they're actually dissecting the

00:02:46.420 words so oh they use the word vehicle oh they use the word and and they're actually using that as

00:02:53.820 as you know why this is probably a conspiracy and why so it's crazy how this is you know um become the

00:03:01.780 new uh kennedy or the you know jimmy hoffa you know it's one of those ones where they're actually

00:03:08.240 looking at it and they're saying you know there's something behind this and it's dividing all these

00:03:12.440 people um so not only is it you know whether you like uh you know charlie kirk or dislike charlie

00:03:18.920 kirk that's another discussion for another podcast um because everyone has a different view it looks like

00:03:24.200 on that uh for the most part i heard in the studio that day several people say okay this was an op

00:03:29.000 and i was like oh this was a planned conspiracy how suspicious how suspicious are we and you know

00:03:35.640 this is this is why i think and the great thing about uh what we're doing in the podcasting world

00:03:40.580 right now and i know it gets criticism but this is why the conversation needs to take place because

00:03:46.200 people what we've what we're uncovering is that people do not believe what they're being fed through

00:03:52.780 media so you know as soon as you blame them no you can't blame them but you know as soon as it comes

00:03:57.600 out you know well you know good question i i coming in you know i'm listening and they're saying you

00:04:03.660 know well it took them uh i forget how many hours this is long time to find the gun and in the text

00:04:10.000 messages the guy is actually standing in the parking lot the shooter which i don't want to acknowledge

00:04:15.260 his name because i hate to do that so he was texting the person after he did the shooting

00:04:18.920 and he's saying i'm still here because i'm waiting for them to leave to go get my gun

00:04:24.000 and so he's at the point where there's only one person left after the whole thing takes place

00:04:30.000 and he's still trying to get over and get his gun that he dropped when he left the shooting

00:04:34.200 but you know and we can get into all those details which i don't want to do today but

00:04:39.120 you know it just shows the level of suspicion and and divide yeah that even the facts are causing

00:04:47.660 um and then you know anthony you started off with jimmy kimmel you know is that just being you know

00:04:56.540 is that taking advantage unfortunately of a bad situation i don't know you know it sure looked to

00:05:02.080 me it you know of course there's a teleprompter he's reading it it's scripted you know as as we had

00:05:07.780 talked about but it kind of you know it does look at like that was planned it was you read a good

00:05:14.320 point there was a staff around him a writer's room the the writers put that in the machine the

00:05:19.600 teleprompter came on he was well aware of what he was doing 20 of them were well aware it was very

00:05:24.740 well produced or somewhere in the house there was yeah there's a that reports to like an executive in

00:05:29.620 charge of production that's assigned by abc to the show and then right down to a floor producer right

00:05:34.200 there in front of jimmy pointing the camera that he's he's speaking to so a wide number of people a

00:05:41.560 large number of people knew about this uh and that has been the mo of his show for some time he seems

00:05:48.720 to be um victorious only on his show when he does something that is glorious in the name of a virtue

00:05:57.500 of his own or you know the the woke culture and that's been sort of where it that show has been

00:06:04.600 headed i can't imagine the network has liked that for some time and that's where it's been headed

00:06:08.540 and the ratings have been headed that way so that's kind of what what's going on and people

00:06:12.720 talking about the cancel stuff so we have the don cherry thing happened here in canada a lot of

00:06:19.240 people were very upset about it but ultimately and you know mike you and i have worked in media for

00:06:23.720 years these are people who are being paid a lot at a time when the economics of their industry is

00:06:29.140 collapsing and changing so anytime you can get out of a high paying contract you're getting out of it so

00:06:34.340 it's almost an opportunity like ah fine let's let's fire kimmel because you know maybe we can i don't

00:06:38.460 know what's in his contract but they probably don't have to pay him out as much i don't disagree now

00:06:42.680 compared to if they just want to fire him on any random day so it's probably like a happy accident for

00:06:48.980 for abc to get out of this or another question is it planned did they did they negotiate this out

00:06:55.620 before and this is just the you know they're looking for the exit point you know they had already

00:07:00.140 made and so this was the exit point so where i'm super curious so this is where we got to follow

00:07:04.960 the ball and sorry i'm i'm turning into a conspiracy go let's let's right you just pointed out at the

00:07:10.820 beginning yeah a whole bunch of conspiracies about this so you get to but i'm super curious where he

00:07:15.860 ends up well so where does he end up now does he end up with his own podcast oh yeah does he end up

00:07:20.620 you know on uh working with uh howard stern on you know and serious somewhere well i'd be happy to

00:07:26.320 take a bet right now my bet is on he gets a deal with spotify or apple for you probably apple for

00:07:32.960 huge money to do his podcast or a version of his show and one so one interesting thing with charlie

00:07:37.800 kirk is he was super super popular and loved by millions of people and then many other millions of

00:07:44.980 people had never heard of him before and and that's only possible in today's era because back in

00:07:51.080 the day you know they said the most watched thing ever was the series finale of mash they only had

00:07:55.560 three stations so even if you didn't even like mash you have to watch it because it's the only

00:07:59.440 thing on now you go to where your audience is so i think jimmy kimmel will make more money being

00:08:05.040 more obscure and less mainstream but with a more diehard audience well look at candace owens i mean

00:08:11.000 she's gone from you know somewhat edgy to full-on extreme i mean she's she's pointing at the macron's 0.92

00:08:17.180 family like they have uh different genitals she's and what station is is this her own youtube 0.75

00:08:23.160 she has her own she's the channel or i don't even know how that works absolutely massive on her own 1.00

00:08:29.100 channel on her own uh website on all of the platforms including uh youtube she's blown up

00:08:35.100 tucker carlson's another richer than ever too oh yeah she makes i'm guessing huge money she's being 1.00

00:08:39.800 sued by the macrons she's got her own story that she can follow she was a friend of charlie kirk she

00:08:44.700 she arrived fired at the right time tucker carson at the right time what a phrase yeah oh same tucker

00:08:51.820 carlson right uh we listen to and you know it's interesting because you know you mentioned charlie

00:08:56.740 kirk you know uh also another group were the the anti right quite frankly so you know uh the stats

00:09:05.800 always show that the people who don't like you listen twice as longer as the people who do like

00:09:10.680 that was the howard stern formula yeah howard stern formula so he had a you know that was his kind of

00:09:15.340 campus following right he he had those who disagree with me come to the front um and quite frankly that

00:09:21.320 that kind of is what made his podcast so popular amongst a lot of people and uh yeah but to your

00:09:28.060 original point is that where we're going where face-to-face intensive debate is what we're going

00:09:37.460 to do i mean i watched i don't know i've gone down the rabbit hole a few times trying to get a better

00:09:43.880 understanding of who this guy was as a youth and as he was becoming a man and a dad and and i watched

00:09:51.820 uh this guy that enjoyed the challenge more than i think he enjoyed the mission uh or cause that he

00:10:00.880 was behind he seemed to really love the debate element of it and the one thing that i think

00:10:07.560 was to his detriment and i'm sorry to say this because i will get backlash is that he had that

00:10:14.580 intensive arrogance of debate that people are not accustomed to people want to have it in canada

00:10:21.820 that is true in america a completely different oh yeah but canadians good point anthony canadians

00:10:28.060 reaction to this guy is that he's rude and abrasive i mean the people that don't like him

00:10:35.360 it's on the basis of that he's rude and abrasive and only his opinion counted and if you looked at

00:10:40.480 it from that context it would be easy to to draw that conclusion the the america is just more

00:10:46.480 abrasive in general like you msnbc left-wing show like you know rachel maddow she is rude and abrasive 1.00

00:10:51.860 like we don't have that in our left-wing media here in canada either it's a different strain one

00:10:56.800 thing i want to put to you guys uh speaking about the cancel culture component is there was a lot of

00:11:01.940 like the big studios were really enforcing the other agenda for a long time in interesting ways

00:11:06.800 there's this sitcom last man standing tim allen show yeah which i had never even heard of it for

00:11:12.380 years when it was the number one rated sitcom in america just because i i don't know i had like

00:11:16.800 they don't really draw attention to it in the mainstream it was suddenly fired it was suddenly

00:11:21.700 canceled and tim allen going podcast going i don't know it was the best ratings ever and he theorized

00:11:27.100 that it was because it showed a a conservative uh a patriarch a conservative father of a household in

00:11:32.940 a positive light in a way that he hadn't seen since well maybe since home improvement like in the 90s

00:11:38.040 and so forth so he's canned there and then the roseanne show that makes a comeback the very first

00:11:43.160 episode of that show because i had i had just gotten into roseanne watching reruns i was like this is a

00:11:47.600 really great show and and really showing like the challenges of everyday life for people and that had

00:11:52.260 won awards uh for like uh dealing with very complicated you know race racial issues it won awards for for

00:12:00.380 gay and lesbian acceptance because they would show uh gay and lesbian people in like a positive you

00:12:06.260 know complicated human light in the early 90s when that wasn't happening uh so very like developed

00:12:12.440 uh comprehensive show first episode of the reboot which came out like i don't know 2018 or whenever

00:12:18.260 it was she's wearing the maga hat or maga shirt or hat or whatnot and she's in her house and her sister

00:12:23.920 jackie and remember the whole show is kind of almost about their attention her sister comes and she's

00:12:27.960 wearing one of those hillary clinton pink hats that they call the pussy hat she's wearing that hat 1.00

00:12:32.100 and nobody there's no words in in the scene they just walk in and right away the audience get like

00:12:36.740 you get it and you laugh already and you find out they haven't spoken in four years over this

00:12:42.540 over their division on this and then the opening scene they go we got to put this behind us

00:12:47.980 this is silly we're sisters and they were like america's what an excellent example of what needs to

00:12:53.580 happen an amazing it's really powerful opening scene right so of course what happens four episodes 0.69

00:12:59.040 later they go we got to cancel this show cancer you know because roseanne posted some racist comment on 1.00

00:13:03.600 twitter you know dumb thing that's what i don't want to relitigate that but you could have given her 0.53

00:13:08.220 a pass and said you know don't be mean roseanne but here's an important show and instead they said 0.96

00:13:13.600 we got to take this off the air so i think a lot and i see that to say i think a lot of people

00:13:18.420 culturally in the u.s are saying you are so you suppressed our meaningful conversations for 20

00:13:25.640 years in the name of your agenda go ahead and fire kimmel we don't care call it what you want but we 0.98

00:13:31.640 feel like we need a rebalancing here so my question to you guys is is is this a rebalancing because i feel

00:13:37.580 like in many ways it is is it is it balancing or is it going the wrong way is it going anywhere near

00:13:45.200 because we haven't seen roseanne type shows being canceled yet but but does it lead it that way yeah

00:13:49.740 well what we do with that ball in the pendulum is we throw it as far each way as we can human nature

00:13:55.780 just seems to do that i think in answer to your question yeah this is a leveling of the playing

00:14:02.000 field in a lot of ways and we're seeing it in other places where people that were canceled are making

00:14:06.060 great comebacks shane gillis is the biggest comedian on earth um saturday night live took a pass on him

00:14:13.560 for a racist joke or a an accent that he did i think on a podcast several years before it was

00:14:20.560 brought up by the cancel culture that he should not have a job and he should not be a funny man

00:14:24.660 he then proceeded to be the biggest comedian uh in in america and and i've also heard and maybe you

00:14:32.360 guys have heard this too that the entertainment up against cancel culture the entertainment industry

00:14:36.720 has lost billions hundreds of billions of dollars trying to create content for what is a woke cancel

00:14:44.800 culture right that's not interested in that content at all and they've lost hundreds of billions doing

00:14:50.980 it and i think we're going to see the shift in entertainment and news and all of these things

00:14:55.320 where those virtues and virtue signaling disappear so our our politics definitely you know we know that

00:15:02.740 our politics uh influences our entertainment and definitely our communication right so it seems to

00:15:09.460 be and quite frankly that's more and more as we see these shifts happen the hearing yeah that was

00:15:16.940 uh that we were talking about did this week did anyone catch patel the did you watch the hearing

00:15:23.060 the nfbi hearing yeah yeah it was oh no like about oh my god like her killing yeah it was wwe i mean

00:15:28.920 everything except the chairs being i didn't tune in oh my goodness drama some of the comments uh uh to

00:15:34.960 to the uh to the congress uh and and to the senate terrible notes from cash patel about how he's been

00:15:42.420 treated uh names being thrown back and forth uh people being told that their careers are a joke uh that

00:15:48.980 they're an abomination to america there was no decorum in that discussion at all and this is the leading

00:15:55.160 policing force in america yeah and their oversight and all they did was scream and yell at each other

00:16:03.600 and throw horrible comments and accusations for two days yeah it was awful both sides it just was

00:16:09.540 inappropriate and quite frankly they should probably apologize i would agree to the public so that should

00:16:15.120 just be like listen we need to re if for such a tragic event to do that was was just terrible

00:16:20.980 right and it came off bad you know both sides screaming you know insults at each other for

00:16:28.820 zero credibility left on either side leaving that hearing and you know i heard about that it's funny

00:16:33.920 as i was moving around this week i think they think sometimes they do these hearings and people aren't

00:16:39.180 watching people were talking about it all week they're like holy cow like what's going on and you know

00:16:44.440 we we saw our own in canada we saw our own house sit this week right and i mentioned on another show

00:16:49.960 we spent the first you know part of the week just insulting each other so you know now a little more

00:16:56.580 decorum you know we're not as rough with the way we're doing it but we spent the first part of the week

00:17:01.860 just you know not very solution driven not very you know process procedure let's get moving on let's get

00:17:08.580 to an outcome and that's too bad because i think you know that leadership sets the tone for what

00:17:14.220 those things are and so when we go on these political witch hunts where we're tracking down

00:17:20.120 parties to you know get them off air or do things because that's not our political view that's what

00:17:26.060 it leads to right and quite frankly that comes from that dialogue and that decorum it becomes accepted

00:17:31.220 within their own community which the political community and then they take it out into other

00:17:35.200 industries and and quite frankly that's just inappropriate and you know and and the public the public

00:17:41.080 should be saying no you know i think americans definitely canadians i think the public's saying

00:17:46.500 yes i think because if you're saying it's like wrestling then people like it so they want to they

00:17:51.240 want the drama or to your point about the hate watching or hate listening maybe they want to say

00:17:55.200 it's unacceptable conduct but they still want to watch it so then they can judge it because here's the

00:18:00.540 thing anthony which i'm trying that's a good point yeah i'm trying to figure out of my mind have they lost

00:18:05.060 so much credibility that people want them to be buffoons now so i'm a little bit of that is we

00:18:10.180 have to be careful about because if people you know we start off the show with they've lost faith

00:18:14.940 and and basically believing what they're told so then are they just kind of uh are they is it a little

00:18:21.540 bit of they're goofing on them now so they just want them to beat each other up or make you know

00:18:25.720 attack each other well people people will not love that for long i mean if if you really think that

00:18:30.680 that's what the people want well i'll tell you something else about wrestling and anybody who's

00:18:33.820 watched it or followed it over the years it does this with popularity more than any other

00:18:39.200 entertainment i've ever seen so true so i wonder if we will tire of that quickly and have to ask you

00:18:45.960 guys a question because it's it has been on my mind you know i think of charlie kirk and uh

00:18:51.200 by the way the the shock and trauma that millions of people simultaneously experienced over a couple of

00:18:57.840 days hundreds of millions of people just with the witness of that thing uh i think first of all leads

00:19:05.160 to difficult discussion between either side right now and the other thing that occurred to me was

00:19:11.860 you know charlie kirk and the people that would argue with him from the other side

00:19:17.500 they argued i think this you think that i think this you think that i refute that i refute that

00:19:24.660 i have data on this i have data on that right and what i took away after watching a lot of it was

00:19:31.380 sadly it had no meaning it had some awareness meaning it had some power of uh it had great

00:19:41.480 energy for creating a movement of youth to take a political stance to change things um like what he

00:19:47.860 what he was doing had no what he what he was doing had little caloric value in the end

00:19:53.460 because what all those supporters would disagree i know and i'm going to take heat for this

00:19:58.540 but i would ask you to hear this end of it it's an argument when you have a point and i have a point

00:20:05.840 and it's we can't get past it based on your stats and my stats and that's not what he's doing

00:20:10.680 let's be honest he was converting young people to conservatism and he was succeeding and i don't

00:20:17.920 know if that's why that person killed him but that's why people wanted his voice silenced because

00:20:23.260 young people are the future and young people have prominently been voting left and and skewing things

00:20:28.220 although it's all a wash in canada because it's the baby boomers voted for carny and young people 0.73

00:20:32.160 are getting more conservative but i i think he's from what i know like i i i don't have okay well i will

00:20:38.720 following of his comments as other people do but i think he's been immensely successful and that's

00:20:44.380 why a lot of older people had never heard of him before because he's just speaking to young people

00:20:47.640 but he was converting them yeah and that was the breeding ground for the left for decades for like

00:20:52.220 40 50 years and that's why he did what he did that was turning point usa we're at the turning point

00:20:56.640 i'm going to turn i'm going to we're going to turn things around the the university campuses won't

00:21:00.840 be conserved uh won't be left-wing anymore they'll be right-wing yeah and he was succeeding

00:21:04.860 no i not and and by the way i i god i wish i didn't use charlie kirk as an example here

00:21:09.880 now because you're right and i don't mean to okay we can find it out we can disagree i don't disagree

00:21:16.200 with you on those points at all but what i my point was based on this dynamic of uh of communication

00:21:24.520 that is happening that's creating more polarity i wonder if the next charlie kirk that we see

00:21:31.900 conservative or liberal will rise up on the basis of not confronting in a debate fashion but trying

00:21:39.820 to do something that is more cohesive to find a solution between two points and i don't know that

00:21:47.260 i saw much of that in reviewing the footage as you point out i'm a boomer and maybe i just no but i

00:21:53.320 think you're i don't the whole point was not we're gonna talk things out and then meet in the middle the

00:21:58.580 whole point was we're gonna talk things out and i'm gonna convert you to being a conservative at

00:22:02.800 the end yeah but he's just saying i want to talk rather i want to talk to liberals and try and flip

00:22:07.840 you rather than just only talk to a small conservative audience but if i think what we're

00:22:13.360 both saying is 100 right i like they're not contradictory things to that end his representation

00:22:18.900 of what is conservatism to that youth to that demographic overall was going to be a very different

00:22:26.740 sounding very different dynamic than historically based on them joining with that tone in mind

00:22:33.380 with that fervor in mind so it was going to be a different conservative party let me ask you a

00:22:38.180 question this is very difficult charlie kirk uh the bullet misses charlie kirk what happens moving

00:22:45.300 forward in his life in your estimation oh he keeps on going he keeps on going you know and you know i

00:22:52.180 thought about this uh after i you know because it's interesting because you know the the president

00:22:59.540 you know trump uh he he same thing but it grazed his ear and he kept going and he became the president

00:23:07.540 right and i thought you know what does that mean you know if by chance and i wish it had if if it just

00:23:13.860 grazed him you know would it been uh something that would have moved him forward and uh escalated him

00:23:21.300 you know i think his views were a little too you know uh far to the one side you know too erratic

00:23:28.020 to to go uh much further uh than maybe you know uh a very powerful conservative um and probably

00:23:37.220 politics wouldn't have been the outcome but um yeah i think you know i wish that would have happened

00:23:43.860 of course i think we all do of course yeah but but really i i i think uh at the end of the day

00:23:49.460 uh he would have been a strong conservative and a strong supporter and always been very

00:23:53.860 key in the party if that had happened i think he always will be you know definitely talked about

00:23:58.740 felt um within the party you know i wanted to just and hit on the other point you had earlier you know

00:24:04.660 i think he he filled a void right and i think what i you know we learn from taking away from someone who

00:24:12.180 created a movement based on a void of people um and we learn things right because we watch while they do it

00:24:17.940 and we watch who follows and for whatever reason whether it's religious you know whether it's

00:24:22.660 christianity or evangelistic you know it that's one thing but i think we all learn things and one

00:24:29.380 thing i think we've learned from that is to your point mike you're trying to make you know sometimes

00:24:34.660 if you uh debate and you statistically debate so you sit down and you actually analytically go through

00:24:40.500 why things are the way they are you might be able to come to a better outcome and i think some of

00:24:44.740 that dialogue i noticed you know and i do notice quite a bit and i talked to you about it quite a

00:24:49.460 bit a lot of these debates that go on are um you know just two groups with an opinion raging at each

00:24:55.060 other yeah whereas quite frankly i i wish people you know and we're trying to do this more on true

00:25:00.580 patriot love we're trying to come from a basis of the analytics and the stats of where we are so we're

00:25:06.580 trying to look at it and say okay crime rates are this uh you know homelessness is this and we're trying

00:25:13.220 to break it down uh by the numbers and then work it back yeah and i think it's hard to debate something

00:25:19.220 when you see you know when you look at the numbers and you look at the outcomes and you say to yourself

00:25:23.460 that's where we're starting from you know there there's some things you know whether it be birth

00:25:28.580 rates or whatever you know concern right and i think the way you talk about that and what's happening

00:25:35.380 in the country you can address those you don't have to get into the whether it's a feminist issue or 1.00

00:25:41.540 whatever you can get into that issue and you can talk about because the birth rates show the stats

00:25:47.380 right so you don't have to you can talk about that intelligently no i mean you're right and things that

00:25:51.780 charlie kirk would touch on like the role of mothers and how we've let that go that is statistic

00:25:59.060 he's statistically 100 correct if we don't have moms having babies the population goes down if you know so 0.99

00:26:07.860 you know i did and and i don't want to come off like i didn't like that argumentative thing because

00:26:13.700 i found it more informative than anything that's the truth that i would in those moments i'd see the

00:26:19.620 liberal side of it louder than normally i would and i'd hear his side very decisive and very completely

00:26:26.660 thought through better than i would hear the right do it right and that i will certainly miss and i think

00:26:32.980 that that void is is now is it's it's open again right it is open again but quite frankly how we do

00:26:40.340 it i think is left for us to that's still in our hands right yeah so how we debate and how we come

00:26:46.500 to the conclusion of those debates is key that's definitely not the way to do it in canada i think

00:26:51.700 we're still in a good place i think we still are having uh active debates quite frankly um you know

00:26:58.820 anti and we're talking before i think we have to look at things uh break things down a little more

00:27:04.980 from the right and the left a little more because traditionally we've been kind of in the middle or

00:27:10.500 to the left and quite frankly we haven't looked at all the options and i think you know the more we do

00:27:15.700 this and the more we have these conversations we're going to start to do that right so you know and

00:27:20.340 hopefully that dialogue will get out we'll do more of it um but you know we learned right and we learned

00:27:27.220 from uh this happening a bad event a bad outcome we learned quite frankly what we don't want to do

00:27:33.940 and we don't want to have debates that polarize people so much so that you have so someone that

00:27:39.300 wants to harm another person we cannot shoot at good quality humans trying to make a difference

00:27:49.460 simply put that's it he was a clean living christian guy as best i can understand with a beautiful

00:27:56.660 young family uh many people around him that supported him an amazing media company built up

00:28:04.420 just we have got to protect that freedom of speech we have to protect the people who are willing to go

00:28:12.100 out there and say things that make a difference whether you agree or disagree at the first blush and

00:28:19.220 that's the thing that i took away and i think everybody does is that was a bullet through freedom of

00:28:24.100 speech in a lot of ways even though it was delivered by a citizen allegedly yeah you know that's kind of

00:28:31.940 how i feel about it now there is one question i do have where's your brown jacket like do you do you want

00:28:38.420 to be in the club okay that was a fashion accident uh you know and i i do appreciate the uh the discussion

00:28:49.220 on how we're going to discuss things moving forward as a society how we're going to communicate if this

00:28:54.420 is a turning point um i hope that it it actually brings us closer and doesn't create more of a polarity

00:29:02.980 i i just don't see there's any room at either end anymore maybe i'm wrong

00:29:07.780 it's my job to wrap i need to give it to you you're the ladies and gentlemen thank you so much

00:29:15.940 for joining us uh for anthony fury mama coochie myself mike wickson thanks for joining us for this

00:29:21.460 round table please love hate comment oh i can't wait to see the comments on this one

00:29:26.980 and uh we'll catch you next time tell your friends about tpl media thanks

True Patriot Love - September 22, 2025

Charlie Kirk’s Assassination, Jimmy Kimmel’s Firing & Cancel Culture Backlash

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