True Patriot Love - May 09, 2026


Gang Shootings, Stolen Funds, & Cocaine Canada [Weekly Crime Update]


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00:00:00.000 Is this going to become a legitimized business somehow, guys?
00:00:03.320 It seems like these guys get away with it.
00:00:05.940 I mean, it's all done in Bitcoin.
00:00:07.300 It's distributed.
00:00:08.100 Nobody has been able to get to the bottom of what they're doing.
00:00:10.720 They're really wreaking havoc.
00:00:12.680 And to the tune now of estimates between $40 and $150 million a year in ransom fines.
00:00:20.840 And they're getting it.
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00:00:35.640 Surrey gang shootings, a crime report in Toronto that has very mixed reviews and interpretations,
00:00:42.080 and Cocaine Canada, all in this episode as we review what's happening in crime across Canada.
00:00:48.680 Joining me, Paul Micucci, Brady Wedham.
00:00:50.920 Thanks, guys, for doing this.
00:00:52.040 First on the list, guys, the Surrey gang shooting that went down last week and really a scant reporting on the details.
00:01:02.840 I don't know if you noticed that.
00:01:04.160 Yeah, so 3 p.m. on May 4th, 2026, a shooting occurred near 130th Street and 76th Avenue in Surrey, British Columbia.
00:01:13.860 Okay, they found a man suffering from gunshot wounds.
00:01:16.700 Emergency crews attempted life-saving measures, but the victim died on the scene.
00:01:19.680 And the reports on this have been, yes, like you said, a bit staggering in lack of details.
00:01:25.480 Yeah, it's funny because it looked to me like right away, guys, they wanted to talk about this as a gang-related shooting
00:01:31.960 because it was in that style, very brazen daylight shooting, a lot of video available on it, of course.
00:01:41.680 But they hesitated, the police hesitated to position that.
00:01:45.640 I wonder why.
00:01:46.680 So the last bit of details was the victim was a man in his 30s.
00:01:49.480 He was reportedly at work at the time of the attack.
00:01:51.440 He has no criminal record and had not previously reported threats of extortion or attempts to anything like that to the police.
00:01:58.020 Yes.
00:01:58.360 But, Mike, isn't this the one where the two masked guys are chasing him down the street?
00:02:03.480 Yeah.
00:02:03.860 Yeah.
00:02:04.100 So in the middle of the day, they're actually.
00:02:06.880 And bullets are flying everywhere.
00:02:09.160 You know, they're not great aim.
00:02:11.160 Right.
00:02:11.400 But, you know, they finally hit him, obviously.
00:02:13.680 But, yeah.
00:02:14.620 And the victim, of course, in the video, you see him scrambling for his life, unable to save it.
00:02:20.020 However, now the question in B.C., certainly in Surrey, remains, has the police transition?
00:02:29.160 They've got new things happening with the police force there, new appointments, reallocations.
00:02:34.840 They feel, the community now feels, I think, like the gang supervision has gone away.
00:02:41.860 there isn't that much attention on gang violence and in a brazen scenario like that in the middle
00:02:47.780 of the street anybody could be shot and killed yeah well of course bullets flying everywhere
00:02:53.540 you hear it quite frankly a lot in the united states where there's you know stray bullets in
00:02:58.740 like south chicago and places like that go through walls kill children hurt people you're hearing it
00:03:04.740 all the time so when these guys are running down the road bullets are going through glass windows
00:03:09.700 buildings cars it's brutal right yeah but but the question i have for all this you know as you
00:03:16.420 mentioned the the gang the police gang unit right after where are they yeah where are they and where
00:03:24.180 are they collecting camera footage and then asking for people to come forward is there any rewards
00:03:29.780 put up to actually ask anyone to come forward and like to nip this in the butt and give public
00:03:35.220 confidence back because you know we criticize let's go to mexico for a minute we criticize
00:03:41.140 mexico when we see people you know we go oh my god you see down in mexico those people are in
00:03:46.260 the hotel and there's cars on fire and they're shooting out in front of the hotel hello what's
00:03:51.620 the difference here yeah there's not much there's not much difference right there's there's no
00:03:55.460 warning there's no warning of a car fire to let you know there might be danger there that's that's
00:03:59.460 one difference yeah but yeah uh and and of course now they're saying i think that they're the walk
00:04:05.340 away from the gang scenario is a lot of positioning for the police department in surrey because they
00:04:10.360 don't want to make it look like they've let the gang situation get out of control and they're now
00:04:14.860 identifying this individual as somebody not related to gang related crime it seems like this
00:04:21.420 was a mistaken identity thing well that doesn't stop us from needing to investigate gang violent
00:04:27.160 gang crime and how they executed on the streets they got the wrong guy this time but it didn't
00:04:33.700 change the act it didn't change the crime no even worse imagine this poor guy you know that was he
00:04:38.780 mechanic uh whatever he was at work you know he's fleeing for his life because two hooded guys are
00:04:46.600 you know oh my goodness imagine the the feeling the panic and guys let's see the family you know
00:04:51.700 his kids whatever like and then it's unexplained yeah but let's say that this is this was a mistake
00:04:57.740 of mistaken identity every other person that works on that street now has to worry that someone's
00:05:02.220 going to run in like you're going to have pdsd just from being around it well no the effects
00:05:07.480 of this are massive and and that they haven't identified it as gang crime doesn't keep it out
00:05:12.160 of that realm unfortunately looks like gang crime on the surveillance footage anybody running around
00:05:16.540 with masks on shooting each other in broad daylight in an area where people are working
00:05:20.520 in a downtown core like vancouver is that's considered gang crime i don't care if you're
00:05:25.500 putting up signs or not that is a terrorist terroristic gang activity you know it's interesting
00:05:31.820 because i mentioned i had a business in chicago and yeah it was really uh wild because they didn't
00:05:37.140 realize until i got down there that when you go down and when you go on vacation you go to
00:05:41.960 downtown chicago you're really barricaded in you know because of the lakes and the bridges and
00:05:47.120 everything else the police actually police like south chicago they police different entries into
00:05:52.580 the city to make sure gangs don't get loose and come into the city to to rob and to assault and
00:05:58.760 to shoot people you know that's sounds terrible but they really do it's it's they coordinate it
00:06:04.200 off the they really yeah you're you're you're you're protected as a tourist inside the city
00:06:08.800 core once in a while gangs break out and there's disruption and they move into the city and then
00:06:15.160 they come ahead of them they try to get ahead of them and set off alarms to get people to to
00:06:21.480 go for shelter we reach that point where quite frankly we're we can't control it we can't
00:06:29.000 barricade it off so we have to create shelter alerts shelter in place alerts so crime in our
00:06:34.760 if you're in if you're in surrey bc or you're in one of these places now should there be a if listen
00:06:40.040 i think it's up to the police to kind of come out and say listen we don't have it now
00:06:43.960 so we better figure out protection zones which they do in chicago the chicago police tell you
00:06:48.440 as soon as you hear these sirens right move somewhere fast stay low get behind something
00:06:54.360 that's uh as bulletproof as you can get what a tragic necessity but that's what you're told is
00:07:00.760 you're when you're a citizen and you know when you're going down the magic mile or you're going
00:07:04.600 up to have grab dinner when you hear that go off right away you know the alert bells go off and you
00:07:09.880 move just like you know just like when you're living in oklahoma city and there's a tornado
00:07:14.040 coming it's the same feeling right you're like okay i need doom i need to i need to try to figure
00:07:20.440 out where these gunshots are coming from i need to figure out which side of the street i need to move
00:07:25.640 to and i need to shelter in place right and i'm like this is you know this it's not canada it
00:07:32.520 shouldn't be what we do in canada but that's in canada that's in terms of protecting civilians
00:07:37.240 and being an individual and thinking, you know, that helps the safety of that.
00:07:41.800 What stops gang activity or at least puts a dent in it
00:07:45.400 is way more severe charges for something like this.
00:07:48.460 Let's say they catch these two guys.
00:07:50.040 This isn't just, hey, you know, you're going to get bail
00:07:52.400 or, hey, you're going to get 7 to 15 years.
00:07:54.740 Lock these guys up for life.
00:07:56.200 No, this was premeditated murder.
00:07:57.780 It was a plan.
00:07:58.340 They had a plan.
00:07:58.880 They got the wrong guy, but they had a plan, and they executed it.
00:08:01.720 We're going to talk about bail reform in a minute
00:08:03.500 with something else coming up.
00:08:05.100 But, you know, knock on this government.
00:08:10.340 We haven't seen any legislation, have we?
00:08:12.860 No, and we haven't seen one piece of legislation passed.
00:08:15.880 You know, the Conservative Party has time and time again talked about this.
00:08:21.480 We haven't seen any real movement on this file, right?
00:08:24.440 It's just, you know, they have no interest in moving this file.
00:08:27.060 They like it the way it is for whatever reason.
00:08:28.980 I have no, I have no idea why this is of interest for them not to change.
00:08:33.220 and this is where this really goes into the judicial system and and pressing charges and
00:08:39.020 being firm on our laws it doesn't you know i have a i have a buddy who's uh actually a couple years
00:08:44.780 older than you gentlemen and um i grew up with this kid and he used to joke because he was a
00:08:49.740 pretty wild guy but he used to joke at the kitchen table i have 98 charges on my list
00:08:55.080 anyone who has 98 charges should be locked up for a long time he shouldn't be at the kitchen table
00:09:01.860 telling me and these weren't petty things these were like robberies assaults like violent crimes
00:09:06.480 yeah but he was able to hit the streets no obviously he performed enough where he could
00:09:11.000 sit at the kitchen table and talk like a normal human being the three strikes uh philosophy in
00:09:17.020 america really probably needs to be put into effect here next on our list guys okay well this
00:09:24.000 is uh something that's becoming more and more prevalent uh people being extorted for their
00:09:29.520 online data shiny hunters has struck again as we all know taking hundreds of thousands of files
00:09:37.760 and hacking major insurance company here in canada and taking valuable information but
00:09:47.360 not for the purpose of using that information but for the purpose of extortion and it looks like
00:09:54.560 these guys are doing a hell of a business yeah these are online pirates this is no different
00:10:00.400 than stealing someone's ship in a port somewhere or in the water they're taking all of your info
00:10:04.960 they're holding it hostage and they're not going to release it until you pay them a bunch of schools
00:10:09.280 just got hacked this morning i was watching the news it's coming out now so they're trying to
00:10:13.200 figure out how bad the hack was but yeah this is is this going to become a legitimized business
00:10:19.040 somehow guys it seems like this could these guys get away with it i mean it's all done in bitcoin
00:10:23.760 it's distributed nobody's been able to get to the bottom of what they're doing yeah they're really
00:10:28.160 wreaking havoc and to the tune now of estimates between 40 and 150 million dollars a year
00:10:35.120 in ransom fines and they're getting it well they're getting it yeah if if you lock down
00:10:40.900 someone's business let's say it's a multi-billion dollar software company whatever it is you lock
00:10:45.540 it down you don't have a second to wait you just pay it and move on and hopefully you'll get them
00:10:49.640 on the back end. Well, you don't want the bad PR to start with. You don't want it. You really
00:10:53.680 don't want to violate any of your own privacy laws. I think that's the other major thing.
00:10:57.720 Oh, yeah. You know, we're all told you have to protect the privacy of your customers, your
00:11:02.180 clients, your databases. And that's a federally enforceable bit of business there. So if you're
00:11:10.600 a major corporation and you've just admitted to the world that you have, you know, disseminated
00:11:16.700 private information you could be under not just civil liable but maybe criminal charges as well
00:11:23.200 yes so uh we're going to dive deeper on this guys if you don't mind in the next week uh keep an eye
00:11:29.340 out for our shiny hunters um sort of understanding we're going to sit down and do a deeper dive on
00:11:35.680 who they are why they're doing this how they're getting away with it what international police
00:11:40.040 forces are addressing this and how this might affect insurance in the future. Do we need
00:11:46.940 hacker insurance now? I think we do. I think we're getting to the point where we need software
00:11:50.800 insurance. Yeah. The next one up, guys, and I'll hand this over. I noticed that I read in
00:11:56.240 Impulse Scarborough newspaper, the community newspaper there, that the chief of police
00:12:02.720 visited Scarborough Town Center in Toronto and talked about how crime is down in Toronto.
00:12:09.100 the crime report that arrived alongside that seems to show maybe differently what are your thoughts
00:12:15.900 guys uh paul do you want to take it away i've got a bit of a rant so i'll save it for the end okay
00:12:20.300 no no i you know whenever crime is reported on they tend to pick incidents of positive outcomes
00:12:30.460 yeah i get it so you go to the most heinous crime and you dwell on the fact that you know in this
00:12:38.140 case i think it was uh assaults uh public shootings and murders yeah went down right so you know and
00:12:45.360 they compared it against 2018 to 21 the worst years i think we had for homicides but then they don't
00:12:52.940 talk about car thefts then they don't talk about uh breaking entries they don't talk about you know
00:12:58.200 snatching grabs they don't talk about any of those things um so you get the sugar-coated version of
00:13:03.160 what went down i don't know why they do it it's a very interesting way to do it i i would much
00:13:09.520 prefer they just go through and tell us the whole news rather than pieces of the news and i think it
00:13:15.720 has to do with budgets truthfully well it's yeah yeah their budgets keep going up you know our
00:13:21.060 police budgets have increased we've all all the mayors have you know it's politically uh
00:13:26.220 i don't think politically you could get away with not approving a police budget right now so
00:13:32.520 be tough it'd be tough because you know people perceive and you know daytime attacks going up
00:13:38.360 transit violence going up or youth violence organized crime shootings tow truck wars
00:13:44.120 gang wars we just talked about and other violent offender issues so they they see those every day
00:13:50.200 on the news they've seen so to go back and say we can't have more police we can't have more
00:13:54.920 um and in this case you know uh this uh toronto police chief which i i i quite like i don't know
00:14:01.880 why he did this um you know he was just on the news and he was getting ready for world cup
00:14:07.560 and they were showing the high-tech uh units that they're deploying for the world cup
00:14:13.240 so you know and it's funny i'm watching it and it was really neat because they had these really
00:14:17.640 uh high-tech drones you know drones we we as human beings know more about drones than we
00:14:22.680 probably we ever wanted to know about for sure yeah yeah since the ukraine and all the straight
00:14:28.040 it's a drone world it's a drone world it really is a drone world so you know he's standing out
00:14:32.760 there and they have this big monster looking spider drone and the guy goes in the air with
00:14:37.320 it and he starts showing right away i say to myself okay we're in a drone world now we're
00:14:43.720 going to be doing drone so those people are going to the world cup there will be something flying
00:14:48.600 above you surveilling you for the whole world cup right they're going to be watching your movements
00:14:54.200 they're going to be there's probably technology that will be doing metal detection they'll probably
00:14:59.720 be uh i don't know what they're going to do as far as data but there'll be lots of there'll be
00:15:05.160 lots of surveillance on the crowd that's moving through the world cup zone and they just said
00:15:09.480 that they said here's the here's the hub it's these mobile trailers we have a number of drones
00:15:14.440 are going to be in the air the next thing i wonder okay we're okay with it for world cup
00:15:19.880 right yeah should we not start thinking about using it well they're not throwing the drones
00:15:26.360 out after the world cup paul i'll guarantee you exactly but but for those zones that we're seeing
00:15:32.520 you know i look at analytics and it's you know it's funny because my world my one part of my
00:15:37.800 world in business is totally analytics so quite frankly i look at it and i think to myself i know
00:15:43.880 what's capable from the analytics perspective from one side of my business uh acumen why
00:15:50.760 couldn't they use that so you know if you have a you're just talking about sorry bc and you have
00:15:57.080 gangs in three bc yeah okay we want to knock down crime and give those people right you land those
00:16:03.560 command centers drones go in the air right all of a sudden you you're in play that to me that
00:16:09.960 makes perfect sense but do we want to be in a downtown core where we're constantly being
00:16:14.200 monitored by random drones if it makes me safer yes well you know so can i throw that could lead
00:16:19.720 to trouble a lot of stuff can make it safer but it ends up taking away your liberties yeah your
00:16:23.880 liberties and freedoms depending on how you label freedom but i come back to so if you can't provide
00:16:28.920 me public if you can't provide me adequate public safety in a transparent correct manner even
00:16:35.240 reporting on it then i think we have to question what we need to do next because we need to address
00:16:40.920 it right we can't just say okay it's going down we don't we're doing our job when when it's not
00:16:47.880 it's not going down it's not going down so we we have to kind of say okay what's you know how do we
00:16:52.040 help them that being the police achieve this and i think we you know we go to the uk so if you
00:16:57.640 travel to london for those of you who haven't been lately but when you do go there and you land and
00:17:02.680 and mike you were just there you know uh last year yep um you land every spot every stop light
00:17:09.400 has surveillance on it so every major intercession is surveilled heavily surveilled yeah so if you
00:17:16.280 commit a crime and you break loose like these two guys in surrey running with the mass on
00:17:20.840 you have tracked you you have no shot again no you have zero opportunity they can take
00:17:27.160 the speed that you're walking running and identify it from camera to camera because you don't yeah
00:17:31.640 You know, just your cadence and the way that you're walking and stuff like that, you would have to really dramatically change how you move between cameras, which are between 50 and 100 meters at most without video view surveying you in London.
00:17:45.460 The first time that shooting, so the first time the gunshot goes off from the very first minute, they triangulate your area.
00:17:52.720 so the right away though that surveillance there's in london i've seen the hub where they have the
00:17:57.760 central surveillance there's like 50 people sitting on monitors right like you would in a
00:18:03.520 casino surveillance room right away it triangulates you so it does like a five mile triangulation of
00:18:10.320 all the lights and they're live picking looking to pick up that person moving and the two masked men
00:18:16.480 so right away you'd be picked up they'd be done and then then police know and they're talking to
00:18:20.720 them you got to go here you go there then you know the convergence is happening right well
00:18:24.880 you know you raise the point with with uh triangulation that makes me think with drones
00:18:28.880 that would be a hell of a lot easier than uh what we have now which is helicopters and cruisers on
00:18:34.320 the ground yeah so if all they did was use them in the in the moment of an incident uh probably
00:18:41.280 would be more effective i'm thinking than a helicopter and they're very advanced what we
00:18:46.480 we can do with helicopters and catching criminals is amazing but they've got to get up in the air
00:18:51.760 they've got to get to where they need to be if there's hubs with drones in the city in key hot
00:18:56.820 points well there already is you see drones you see drones downtown toronto you see them flying
00:19:02.060 around so i think this is already somewhat implemented but maybe you're right maybe the
00:19:05.680 ones that they take um that they have ready for the fifa those are going to be the new ones that
00:19:10.160 are just rolling around town anything that happens when we put down some sort of restriction or some
00:19:15.160 sort of surveillance never really goes away it always kind of just sticks around it's there for
00:19:19.400 a certain event or a certain time it's often there for a reason it's there for the reason
00:19:23.500 but it doesn't leave days it's probably staying for a reason somebody's legitimized why it needs
00:19:28.300 to stay and and this is in my mind a legitimate reason okay so we're talking about street
00:19:33.760 surveillance in the uk there's also online surveillance as well so and i think those
00:19:38.760 things they may sound like they're different but they're they do are and they're in the same
00:19:42.240 category it's being surveilled so people are getting arrested for posting stuff on facebook
00:19:46.300 that the government doesn't agree with by being surveilled so when you add in those cameras on
00:19:51.100 everywhere and the ability to track people you're now opening up more than just your physical body
00:19:55.720 being tracked on camera you're adding everything i guess if they can identify you and trick and
00:20:00.720 link you to other stuff then again if you're looking for a gang gang member that might be
00:20:05.620 handy but as a civilian that's just behaving and doing the right thing it feels like you're giving
00:20:11.480 up more stuff when you could just be changing bail reform and pressing harder charges and locking
00:20:16.960 these guys up forever exactly and that's you you hit a bang on the head at the end if you're not
00:20:22.160 willing so here's where we're at right yeah i think it becomes the the question of the day that
00:20:26.680 we have to ask the current government let's say listen if you're not willing to fix the bail
00:20:33.500 system and fix the penalties and fix your incarceration issues and build some prisons
00:20:39.380 and do some stuff now i guess we all need to know because at some point then if you got to say
00:20:44.820 you're not you're the government of the day then we got to ask you to do something and that is that
00:20:50.060 is when you have to go to the other means right yeah go to the other it's one of the other and
00:20:54.460 listen i think we'd all rather have done all the legislative changes quicker i think we'd all like
00:21:00.480 to be there i don't think you i don't think you can find you'll find too many people in canada
00:21:04.800 at this current moment that wouldn't agree with any legislative change for crime that would reduce
00:21:10.400 it i think we all collectively pull like 90 percent that's probably the only thing canadians
00:21:15.920 agree on right now let's slow down this crime and make charges for some reason we don't want to do
00:21:20.880 it well we don't have the room in jails frankly exactly well that's part of it you have to build
00:21:25.040 the jails for them so once you do less of changes you have to start to build but yeah the funny
00:21:29.040 thing is we're in a time the major projects we just did this show on the budget we're in a time
00:21:34.000 when construction trades have no work so if you're ever going to build jails it would be now
00:21:40.160 this would be the cheapest most convenient most practical best time to deploy resources to build
00:21:46.160 jails in canada but yet that's not on the books anywhere we don't see that as a infrastructure
00:21:51.760 project do we no no so especially especially not the kind of real i mean we're very focused on
00:21:57.520 rehabilitation rightfully so with our criminals but that takes larger facilities that takes
00:22:02.880 different kinds of facilities then you can't you can't house everybody committing crimes in a
00:22:07.760 country in that few uh facilities uh at different levels with different security and it really needs
00:22:15.840 to be thought through when you said major projects it occurred to me wow man prisons could have been
00:22:20.640 a major project and we could have been started today and we have a difference tomorrow we have
00:22:24.960 half empty built buildings we have lots of land to do this there should be no reason why there's
00:22:29.440 The EV plant would have been an excellent retrofit.
00:22:33.060 In the United States, they take cities that need employment and projects.
00:22:37.380 They move prisons into those cities when the mines close down to replicate the employment and the economy.
00:22:43.420 They make a lot of money.
00:22:44.320 It's the ecosystem that keeps the economy going.
00:22:46.880 And quite frankly.
00:22:47.560 It's a very smart idea.
00:22:48.620 Yeah, it is.
00:22:49.300 Well, it's not mine.
00:22:50.460 You know, it's basically replicate the best, you know, go to a country that's doing it the best, replicate it.
00:22:56.600 So do you start privatizing jails?
00:22:58.200 Is that how it gets done quicker?
00:22:59.440 you know what i'd rather privatize jails than privatize airports right you know what i mean
00:23:09.920 and i really would but quite frankly because i think those people would be incentivized to
00:23:14.960 run very efficient jails and to run them properly and to make sure they're they're conducted first
00:23:21.760 having a lot of issues with uh strikes unions everything that goes with the prison system
00:23:28.320 currently that structurally kind of challenges it so quite frankly i think it's a good idea
00:23:33.600 um it works i think it works fairly well in a lot of countries and that's why they do it um and also
00:23:40.720 you know what it's a tough job and to pay a third party to do it and if they do it well i think they
00:23:46.400 should be compensated it's not a nice job right like anything i think there was a bad rap given
00:23:51.040 to it in the u.s because it was the uh the courts were feeding to private prisons and so as long as
00:23:59.400 we build mechanisms in that are very transparent yeah i wouldn't be opposed to it either yeah you
00:24:05.000 know and and i'll be honest with you uh i'm not even against the privatization of the airports
00:24:11.300 if i can get the hell through the lines quicker you won't if it gets private very selfish i know
00:24:17.220 Conestoga College.
00:24:18.560 Well, the scammers have been let go.
00:24:20.500 Oh, goodness.
00:24:21.640 Is it okay to say scammers?
00:24:22.960 Did I just get?
00:24:24.200 This is a wild story.
00:24:26.500 If you're catching it for the first time and you're not Canadian
00:24:28.620 or you didn't hear about it in Canada, let me summarize, if I may,
00:24:33.180 and you guys put me in my place, if you don't mind, okay?
00:24:35.980 All right.
00:24:36.320 So now we've created a scenario where you can immigrate to Canada
00:24:40.620 to be a student and hit a student visa here.
00:24:43.860 And, you know, that's good for the colleges because we're promoting the heck out of that worldwide and mainly in India and other sort of specified areas.
00:24:54.480 We've even got agents representing the colleges in these countries saying we can get you an education, education gets you citizenship, and suddenly all the colleges are much busier.
00:25:05.400 conestoga college up 1500 in profitability and surplus with the influx of um international
00:25:17.140 students now what do you do with all this money well you you run amok with it of course why
00:25:22.260 wouldn't you this one drives me nuts brady let's give me the rundown of how money was so essentially
00:25:28.000 the board uh went uh spending drunk like sailors yeah so um what triggered the intervention um
00:25:36.560 there was an extensive government on it that uncovered egregious financial decisions okay
00:25:43.680 weaker miss uh missing board oversight and a misuse of public funds and to the point where
00:25:49.200 former college on former college's ontario ceo linda franklin appointed as administrator
00:25:54.160 immediately. She'll be temporarily replacing the board because John Tibbetts used to get $600,000
00:26:01.840 a year and somehow got an exit package of 83 months pay, which is equivalent to $4.1 million
00:26:07.920 on his way out. Oh my God. So this guy also, by the way, got a pay raise to $636,000 a year.
00:26:16.820 Yeah. Took his staff to Italy on luxury trips. I was just going to say, do you want to hear
00:26:20.540 what the spending irregularities how much do they spend on that 23 000 per person luxury trip to
00:26:25.180 italy uh that's business class luxury hotel and the transport while they were there um improper
00:26:30.460 hospitality expenses including alcohol heavy staffed meals so taking the whole staff out and
00:26:36.780 getting boozed up on the college's dime and repeated expenses approved without proper oversight which
00:26:43.100 means they were just running the card and not getting anyone to approve these purchases yeah
00:26:47.820 now at the same time you know colleges which we all know have been going through massive layoffs
00:26:54.380 and program restructuring right so conestoga actually laid off 500 people right so at the
00:27:03.660 same time all this is going on so you know this is just a bad this one we did we did an immigration
00:27:09.340 show if you get a chance with phil mooney and you know what honestly i thought i knew
00:27:13.740 uh a lot about immigration and what was going on when i finished the show i i was shocked i left
00:27:21.820 the room and i sat down and i i said to the crew here i said wow i didn't realize what a mess i
00:27:27.740 knew it was a mess i didn't realize what a mess immigration was at that time right now you layer
00:27:33.740 on this piece which you know we listen i i would go to dinner parties and people would tell stories
00:27:40.940 and you know at stories you know when you're having business dinners people tell stories about
00:27:45.420 a lot of stuff so a lot of things you discount you know it's just talk and conjecture and chat
00:27:50.300 and they're having a drink or a glass of wine so you know sometimes yeah and they tell them a little
00:27:55.660 more story the stories of college ceos and college boards became kind of an urban legend for years
00:28:02.860 after just after covet you know we would we would hear the story of how they would have like these
00:28:08.460 uh conferences and all the ceos of the colleges would show up in bentley's and maserati's and
00:28:15.240 and you know you'd hear this and how they were all get out and they would be wearing five thousand
00:28:20.160 dollar suits like we'd hear all this and and i'd go wow that sounds terrible i'm not in it so i'd
00:28:25.320 tell you the truth i didn't have much but they would tell this story about how much money was
00:28:29.660 flowing in that group uh and then you know so obviously it probably was true yeah it probably
00:28:36.180 it looks like it was yeah it looked pretty large right and as we look back i mean the other thing
00:28:41.220 is they were cutting 500 people based on at the time this all started to come out they've cut 500
00:28:46.900 people at that college let's think about the students for a second that arrived at that college
00:28:51.380 paid so much to do it and now are watching this on tv knowing full well they got scammed well that's
00:28:58.340 the you know in the show we did on immigration there's somewhere and i use a conservative estimate
00:29:05.300 so i always say 2.3 million people bill quotes another number which is more than double which
00:29:13.060 he says will be having to leave canada and they're just that number we're looking at just under five
00:29:19.860 million people that's the number he quotes but i you know i i say to people the only one i can
00:29:24.340 really get my hands around to verify is about 2.3 million people that's my number i use but you know
00:29:30.500 say it's that even that is that's a lot that's a lot of people for a size of country we are
00:29:35.860 40 plus million yeah but you know you look at it those people are as to mike's point
00:29:41.620 there are people and i tell it on the show he tells the story there are people who came from
00:29:46.500 places where they had land that for centuries and centuries decades and decades they had their
00:29:52.260 family own it they had to lever it take a loan against it to come here they're leaving right now
00:29:58.580 government is trying to soften the impact of them having to leave after their work terms are up so
00:30:05.380 they're letting them stay a little longer and work to hopefully pay some of those loans down so
00:30:09.140 they're not impacted so we're we're kind of have a like a very if you watch the show a quiet
00:30:14.100 mitigation plan to try to get through this but it is a mess and then this on top of it to your point
00:30:20.260 with these people sitting that went to this college they got to be upset they got to be upset you got
00:30:26.260 got to be you got to be waking up at the morning what justice is there in the world at this point
00:30:30.200 what what justice do i have one we're never going to get the money back two there's no crime being
00:30:35.660 committed here it seems fraudulent and misused but to this point there's just forced to go home
00:30:41.380 these are money these are contracts that were executed and uh probably they'll become civil
00:30:48.000 issues not criminal issues but this is criminal guys it is criminal that that kind of greed
00:30:53.220 became part of the education system for students.
00:30:58.040 Let's not forget there's Canadian students
00:31:00.200 that went to Conestoga College
00:31:01.760 that were not expecting to be part of a money grab,
00:31:05.560 an international student money grab,
00:31:07.440 and did not expect for the board of that school
00:31:09.720 to be taking these funds
00:31:12.300 and did not expect to be in a college situation
00:31:15.220 where they were in classes way too big,
00:31:18.900 where the population of the college
00:31:20.460 was way bigger than it should be,
00:31:22.160 where there was language barriers that made it impossible to learn at the same pace as the rest
00:31:27.580 of the class all of that impacted Canadian kids that were just going to school here in Canada
00:31:34.100 all of that and not a charge I almost guarantee you will ever be laid well let's hope that let's
00:31:40.500 hope you're wrong I never want to hope that you're wrong Mike but let's hope you're wrong in that
00:31:43.680 because I know that it's this is obviously something extremely crazy and extremely uh taken
00:31:49.160 seriously from the government because doug ford came out right away and made an announcement yeah
00:31:54.280 right and that's it this was a serious financial and governance mismanagement like this is a big
00:31:59.340 time problem yeah this staff and whoever was overseeing this staff from the government down
00:32:03.780 needs to be held responsible for this or at least accountable for this yeah i mean this guy's got
00:32:10.000 eight mil in the bank guys let's take it back and try and put it back to the kids or back into the
00:32:15.760 school. I think he was visiting Italy regularly to find his property where he can quietly settle
00:32:20.920 and never hear from him again. What are they going to find next? That's the thing that you have to
00:32:24.040 think about. Like what is when they start to peel back the onion? The tip of the iceberg. Yeah,
00:32:27.920 you're going to find, or is it just all going to go away? They're going to, because they have this.
00:32:31.380 Good point. This was the only college, right? Use him as the fall guy, make him seem like all the,
00:32:36.320 all this is these large amounts and $23,000 trips, and then don't talk about it again.
00:32:41.920 You know, it's interesting, though, and this is the slippery slope that I think you're going to see on this one.
00:32:47.300 I think now people, you know, I'm talking about just these dinner parties where people are talking and I'm hearing these stories.
00:32:53.600 And they're just stories at that point.
00:32:56.100 But now you have neighbors and friends and all those people are going to start to say, you know, remember Bill when he came to the party and he was driving that Bentley and he works for that school.
00:33:05.800 And then they're going to say, so this is going to be one of those ones that all of his kids have Rolexes.
00:33:09.600 Yeah, exactly. 1.00
00:33:10.300 and there's a lot of countries you know you go to third world countries you got to be careful 0.93
00:33:14.560 because these are the things that cause the outbreaks of these issues right people what 0.57
00:33:19.580 happens is you know they they they have countries where quite frankly they see the kids of these
00:33:24.920 people that do this living a really good life and they say why are they living such a great life
00:33:29.980 what did they do and then it kind of starts to spiral and it gets out of control so i think
00:33:34.780 nepal comes to mind i was just going to say exactly it was really a youthful movement post
00:33:39.520 okay post college but you know young uh professionals mainly that you were like no 0.59
00:33:46.500 this corruption is completely eating our country and they were venting on social media and then
00:33:51.280 the government took our social media away and that's what made them finally revolt and said
00:33:54.660 we're not doing this but they took the interesting part of that in the the full story which you know
00:33:59.420 we've covered before the the heads of state and the government's kids were actually all over social
00:34:08.760 living in the u.s showing cars handbags houses all these things and what happened was the the kids
00:34:15.360 abroad and the kids locally back home there saw it so they shut down social this almost stopped
00:34:22.060 their own kids which then caused another set of it they they had to they couldn't stop the ball
00:34:27.160 rolling and this was one that quite frankly i think i think the premier stepped in to try to
00:34:31.340 stop the ball from rolling but then now we have to see if the ball wills well i think everybody's
00:34:35.880 rolling or will it will it stop right everybody has the same reaction to this okay that's one
00:34:40.120 college that i barely ever heard of no offense conestoga yeah well what's what's gone on at the
00:34:45.440 humber colleges what's gone on at the the major uh city colleges maybe well that's the thing mike
00:34:50.920 and you know conestoga uh is actually been around for it's it's it's fairly well known quite frankly
00:34:57.600 and you go my bad conestoga no no yeah you go to i was going to say i come from the i come from
00:35:02.500 cambridge kitchener and that's that's the school there the same way mcmaster is to hamilton but i
00:35:07.300 will look them up the same way mcmaster's moved into hamilton conestoga is related to cambridge
00:35:11.580 and yeah but the thing the thing is like you figure if it happened here you imagine you make
00:35:17.320 a good point the smaller ones those are the ones you know and i i saw some crazy stuff during
00:35:24.320 post-covid that they were doing to these kids oh yeah you were hearing about and you're like oh
00:35:29.020 wow the canadian harvard college of whatever i'm sorry the what the the princeton canadian
00:35:35.320 what they would well the interesting they would they would graduate these kids and these kids
00:35:40.860 would be looking for a graduation letter to get work permits to stay in the country
00:35:45.360 and they would go on international trips the whole faculty and not issue the letters for two months
00:35:51.340 so the kids would sit there waiting for their their letters to get to work and they had to sit
00:35:56.040 on freeze waiting you know i had this i had this cover the former labor minister i had the
00:36:02.680 conversation with her one day i called her up and said you know what this is what's happening you
00:36:07.020 need to kind of address it right wow yeah it's terrible okay guys one last one on the list and
00:36:13.480 And then we're going to make sort of a slight detour.
00:36:16.040 But welcome to Cocaine Canada.
00:36:19.720 Oh, my God.
00:36:21.440 Let's see if I got this right.
00:36:22.900 $4.4 million in drugs seized between the GTA and Quebec.
00:36:28.080 The RCMP announced just this week the culmination of an 18-month investigation,
00:36:33.540 Project Castillo related.
00:36:36.340 This is a project they've been working on for some time now,
00:36:39.120 resulting in the arrest of six individuals from Toronto and Quebec,
00:36:41.960 And police seized 150 kilograms of cocaine, 10 kilograms of heroin, and $1.6 million in cash.
00:36:51.880 They cannot ever get rid of the cash, these guys.
00:36:54.200 It's amazing.
00:36:55.080 Rush, rush to Toronto.
00:36:57.900 The next one on the list, Project Redline Cornwall to Montreal, OPP and Cerite de Quebec dismantled.
00:37:06.540 Multiple drug networks charging 13 people with 115 offenses.
00:37:10.100 investigation seized 4.1 million in drugs including fentanyl and cocaine it's so interesting brady
00:37:16.720 last week as we drove to montreal or when we did it a couple three weeks ago you're blending you're
00:37:22.320 blending you're doing too much yeah sorry you're doing too much when we were heading off to montreal
00:37:26.240 you go through cornwall and you think oh nothing's going on here yeah well a lot going on in cornwall
00:37:31.900 yeah 4.4 million in cocaine seized in halifax rcmp in cbsa intercepted nearly 250 kilograms of
00:37:39.960 How much? 250 kilograms of cocaine in a shipping container at the Port of Halifax.
00:37:47.540 So is that like 550 pounds of...
00:37:49.720 That's a lot of cocaine.
00:37:50.780 That's a lot of cocaine.
00:37:51.820 Yeah.
00:37:52.500 That's an awful lot of cocaine. 0.99
00:37:54.040 That's enough for the country.
00:37:55.040 Don't forget, guys, that's only the tip of the iceberg because it gets...
00:37:59.320 It gets...
00:38:00.700 What?
00:38:01.320 I'm just...
00:38:02.460 How much cocaine is in this country right now?
00:38:04.400 Well, like I said, this is only the tip of the iceberg.
00:38:06.860 There's only 40 million people here.
00:38:08.520 a pretty big well here's the thing don't forget it's all gonna get cut as well probably shipped
00:38:14.520 out this is an airport right yeah right so now what we're demonstrating to the world i think is
00:38:19.720 that we are a drug hub thought we had this under control well we went on ryan wedding no no we
00:38:27.400 remember no so you know i honestly thought that was going to make a difference to what they got
00:38:32.040 yeah yeah you said that on previous shows but we we armed up our border we shut down the border now
00:38:38.120 quite frankly they're given the fact that uh kuzma and trade issues we don't have a lot going
00:38:43.080 on on our border right now so we do have a lot of people guarding the border which is nice
00:38:48.520 even if we guard the border but you got to look in the shipments too you can't just say hey i'm
00:38:52.520 standing here if you look nervous i'm going to stop you look you got to actually check these
00:38:56.840 vats you have to check these shipments but we're not saying ports no we're saying borders right
00:39:02.360 yeah so we're doing it now we've kind of shut down the border right and we you know the crossing so
00:39:08.680 for legal crossings and shipments that directly come but it doesn't stop it from coming into the
00:39:13.400 country right it just stops it from going down to the states exactly so now we're now we're sitting
00:39:18.280 so now you know we have a lot of people we hired up another thousand it was in our budget we're
00:39:25.000 gearing up another thousand rcmp we have a lot of people coming on board we had a lot of people last
00:39:29.800 you're coming on board is it slowing it down this is slowing it down or is this the result of it
00:39:36.680 that's the other thing like i need to ask that question okay uh in all good conscience is this
00:39:41.560 the net result are we getting these busts because we've put more activity at the borders uh and more
00:39:47.400 policing and it's it's getting stopped being held here longer i hope so like i hope so you know you
00:39:52.840 got to think that they would be slowing down like you think you think at some point they say hey
00:39:57.800 hey, we're not getting across or we need another method or whatever.
00:40:00.660 But it does seem, like I said, if someone has the fortitude
00:40:05.440 or the interest of trying to smuggle 500 pounds of cocaine into the country.
00:40:13.200 Can I ask you guys something?
00:40:14.860 Yeah.
00:40:15.480 What did they do with that cocaine afterward, asking for a friend?
00:40:18.560 That's a lot of cocaine.
00:40:19.880 This is like.
00:40:21.000 They test it and then incinerate it.
00:40:22.980 Oh, okay.
00:40:24.700 It gets held for years and then eventually it'll be incinerated.
00:40:27.800 well it just not nothing wow well guys that's a lot of cocaine you want to resell it i can't help
00:40:35.960 but wonder if it is used in some ways somewhere in some method as a part of not in that form
00:40:43.240 well no i don't know maybe oh you mean when they get it maybe oh i see what you're saying okay yeah
00:40:48.120 no i didn't i thought you were talking about what does the government do with it i do remember a
00:40:51.320 government when they seize it yeah yeah yeah yeah no no no if they don't seize it i know what they
00:40:57.160 do with it yeah yeah no no once it sees that's a lot just goes up in smoke yeah they just
00:41:03.900 incinerate it that's it they would hold it for so many years like they hold evidence and i did
00:41:07.600 i just remember this uh coke for missiles uh and arms deals okay
00:41:13.560 forget my conjecture on that one that seemed ridiculous but it does beg the question because
00:41:24.840 that has been done before.
00:41:26.220 What happens with all these drugs that they get?
00:41:28.340 Yes, okay, they incinerate it.
00:41:29.740 Sure they do.
00:41:30.860 So, guys, one last thing today, if we drill down,
00:41:34.060 and it's not really criminal at the moment,
00:41:35.820 and certainly it's just interesting, but it seems...
00:41:39.520 It's walking a weird line.
00:41:41.620 So, you might have noticed in the news in the last couple of weeks
00:41:45.500 that a gentleman in the Netherlands or a company that he runs
00:41:50.200 has been putting propaganda out into the Alberta market,
00:41:55.800 talking about separatism and really muddying the waters in a lot of ways
00:42:00.700 and creating a lot of stink with these posts.
00:42:04.000 They investigate, where are these coming from?
00:42:06.620 And it leads us back to the Netherlands where this guy has built these videos
00:42:11.440 and even hired people to act in them and used AI voices
00:42:14.660 and put them into the marketplace.
00:42:17.060 Begs the question, why?
00:42:20.200 why is this going on well the rcmp came to us this week guys and said yeah there's no sign of
00:42:26.920 foreign interference here okay but the guy is still doing it why did he do it it begs the question
00:42:33.560 so why so he's just so i get it mike because i'm i'm new to this so just fill me in he's egging on
00:42:41.400 the country to separate so he's trying to put videos into play to get people riled up to
00:42:46.840 separate yep he's putting them on social and he's monetizing them right that is true and we don't
00:42:54.760 think there's a problem with that that's that's not foreign interference paul after all and he
00:43:00.280 lives in another country right he's getting financial gain for yeah influencing a decision
00:43:08.680 in a country that he doesn't have citizenship in not foreign interference paul okay but you know
00:43:14.920 know it's how i don't understand so now i ask our researcher christoph i'm actually ranting sorry
00:43:20.180 christoph for this i was ranting in the office well if it's not foreign interference what is
00:43:25.340 this guy doing why is he doing it well i'll tell you why he's doing it and i get we got to go and
00:43:29.940 put ourselves in his shoes for a second to understand why he would be doing it he already
00:43:34.660 said it it's money has nothing to do with his opinion let's just say this guy's seen a void
00:43:39.240 there's lots of guys out there that will look for url hunters things like that like they're looking
00:43:44.600 at what's trending they're trying to make videos or make sort of content that goes along the lines
00:43:48.980 of trending if he looked and seen that separatism or the independence movement in alberta is a
00:43:54.820 trending topic and nobody is making content and monetizing it fully and he could have there's a
00:43:59.620 window there then why wouldn't he do it yeah well apparently that has nothing to do with what he
00:44:04.080 he couldn't even care about canada no no he's doing it all over the world he can take every
00:44:08.980 conflict that he can get his hands on and we should hire actors over in norway so and monetize it but
00:44:15.620 okay that's exactly what he did and you won't believe how much money they estimate the guys
00:44:19.460 made doing this how much well between 300 and 500 000 on ad on paid ad revenue to him teaching
00:44:28.420 courses wow it's a lot of money on so you know what he's doing on iran he gets between eight and
00:44:34.500 $132 per 1,000 views,
00:44:37.540 and he has done an estimated 40 million views
00:44:40.640 on 20 coordinated channels,
00:44:42.140 approximately 40 million views in total.
00:44:45.780 Those numbers seem high for that,
00:44:47.480 but we'll run with it just to make sense out of it.
00:44:49.740 But those numbers don't translate to that high of money.
00:44:52.620 He's got to be making money somewhere else,
00:44:54.160 merch, something.
00:44:54.800 Well, at 40 million views,
00:44:56.520 if he just got $5 on RPM alone,
00:45:01.740 that's $200,000 at the low end.
00:45:03.900 But the point is, he's making money.
00:45:06.420 These are, and by the way, estimates.
00:45:08.220 But the purpose was he's making money.
00:45:11.060 Now, to your point, if somebody's making money, peddling influence,
00:45:15.920 and even if their influence isn't working,
00:45:18.900 they are using it and influencing another country and other people in another country.
00:45:25.640 They may not realize how much influence it actually has
00:45:26.940 until you see 300,000 signatures.
00:45:28.940 He doesn't care.
00:45:29.700 That's what I would think.
00:45:30.880 He doesn't care.
00:45:31.540 This isn't even a personal thing to him.
00:45:32.940 I could be completely wrong.
00:45:33.940 I'm just trying to make sense out of it.
00:45:34.900 No, they made it real clear.
00:45:37.040 I mean, yeah.
00:45:37.920 So I guess the, you know, and this would be a question for the RCMP.
00:45:41.740 Did they go interrogate him to find out if anyone in Canada was behind it?
00:45:46.780 I assume they did.
00:45:48.160 And I assume they found out no one was.
00:45:50.780 Right?
00:45:51.000 So they just, he's just doing it.
00:45:52.380 He's a faceless channel.
00:45:53.540 He's doing it to monetize it.
00:45:54.860 Yeah.
00:45:55.160 But I do draw a little bit of an analogy.
00:45:57.440 You know, this is the this is kind of the fissure that we've had with the United States over the Doug Ford commercials.
00:46:04.740 Right. Is this is kind of the same thing. Right.
00:46:06.920 You know, we he put the Reagan commercials into the U.S. to say that, you know, trade had to be a good point.
00:46:12.760 Right. And all of a sudden I didn't put all the time came back right away and said cease and desist.
00:46:18.280 Pull those commercials or our trade is off. Right.
00:46:21.520 So isn't that a call? So, yeah, that's a great question.
00:46:24.180 this one isn't this where you know and if if if the prime minister's office is listening or the
00:46:29.700 prime minister hello uh i would recommend that you call norway right and you explain to them that
00:46:37.480 he needs to find this individual and shut him down not to tinker with our sovereignty that makes
00:46:43.540 perfect sense to me and that should be that should be like too sweet it shouldn't be an rcmp
00:46:48.720 investigation that should have been and that's the difference honestly difference between americans
00:46:53.000 and Canadians sometimes a lot there's a lot of difference I know people love it but one of the
00:46:58.060 things oh they let us know in the comment section daily yeah one of the things you know that I think
00:47:02.820 Americans react quickly to stuff when you screw with their amendment rights and with their nation
00:47:09.360 and sovereignty that's when we should have been moving on faster we shouldn't have gone to an
00:47:13.580 investigation but there should have been a quick call prime minister should have shut up and said
00:47:17.520 stood up and said he's got to shut him down shut up you got to shut him down in your country of 0.89
00:47:22.680 origin that makes perfect sense to me I wish we had seen it go down that way guys thanks
00:47:26.540 for talking crime what an eventful week thank you for joining us thanks to Christophe and to
00:47:31.740 Nick for making this happen on a weekly basis if there's crimes we're missing if there's things we
00:47:35.720 should be talking about don't hesitate to reach out and let us know we'll catch you next time
00:47:40.620 thanks guys thanks