True Patriot Love - August 26, 2026


Grand Theft Auto in the GTA: Canada’s Car Theft Crisis

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00:00:00.000 in 2022 canada set a dubious record when over 100 000 vehicles were stolen from homes from
00:00:10.640 coast to coast however that number has actually gone down the last few years to talk more about
00:00:16.000 a real change in trends and vehicle theft in this country has always said it'll be joined 0.97
00:00:20.240 by the man himself the sweetest of all sweet bastards mike wixon how are your brother you 0.62
00:00:24.880 know what that's now on my bio full-time nice to see you good to see you mike thanks for having me 0.96
00:00:29.760 me in to talk about this you know I lived in uh I spent a year living in Brampton while I was
00:00:34.720 arranging for my uh my home and uh in my neighborhood it wasn't a matter of oh my gosh
00:00:41.800 somebody's car got stolen it was whose car got stolen today and it was like that the entire
00:00:47.880 time that I was there during that year was 2022 and that was a bad winter if you remember and so
00:00:54.740 what was happening there was a lot of what they call warm-up thefts people go outside start their
00:01:00.300 vehicle go back in grab everything walk outside car's gone yeah and these are typical average
00:01:07.260 middle-class suburban neighborhoods all throughout the country but especially in colder parts of the
00:01:12.340 country where people would go outside and start the car and all of a sudden past that people have
00:01:19.380 gone to installing remote starters so the car still uh stops installing bollards like you see
00:01:25.460 in parking garage on their driveway some people have bought the denver boot that you get from
00:01:30.380 parking enforcement that you can put on your own car wait a minute what's the other one you talked
00:01:34.180 about it's like poles that come up at the end of your driveway sort of thing it's about three four
00:01:38.700 feet high yeah and it's like when you go to certain parking garages until you pay or swipe then they
00:01:45.060 drop you can drive in people put that in their driveway they are stalling them on their driveway
00:01:49.200 in certain neighborhoods across canada and they determine how many they need to make sure so you
00:01:54.420 couldn't cut through them with a chainsaw right of course they are posts there's metal posts that
00:01:59.340 come out of the ground i've seen you know where they have them parliament yes exactly security
00:02:03.880 100 anything high security so people were like hey like you just said yeah i just saw on my street
00:02:10.120 four or five cars get stolen that's it i'm not putting up with it they're paying the money
00:02:14.380 getting them installed they have a key fob it drops them all down they can drive away so their
00:02:19.400 cars protect it because think about this most canadians their garage is not for the car it's
00:02:24.660 for overflow storage not many people have a garage that's empty enough to put their vehicle in i've
00:02:30.060 got room for one vehicle my car gets stolen my wife's is uh safe uh you know jim it this is
00:02:36.160 anecdotal but uh on the weekend paul and i were talking uh from a tpl here and one of his friends
00:02:43.160 has had their third car stolen now it makes me think i gotta ask you this question because as
00:02:48.900 i reflect upon that myself i just assume my car is going to get stolen at some point i don't know
00:02:54.080 why i i it's just by statistics i guess or the way that we've been hearing about it i look out
00:03:00.440 at my car in the driveway and think oh aren't i lucky but and there seems to be a trend and the
00:03:06.680 cea the police association the rcmp etc they every year they have a list of the most stolen
00:03:13.020 vehicles in canada pickup trucks are always right at the very top suvs especially the high-end stuff
00:03:18.540 like the range rovers and lincoln navigators cadillac escalades top of mind and high performance
00:03:24.620 cars the you know your outies your porsches your ferraris high performance stuff like that gets
00:03:29.420 stolen like i have explained why you and i haven't had i have an old volkswagen so i'm pretty safe
00:03:34.300 but our neighbors across the road they have a really nice fully loaded ford pickup which is one
00:03:39.100 one of the most stolen vehicles in the country but they have a also a run around hyundai and
00:03:44.620 every night they do the change of the cars so you can't get the truck out of the driveway because
00:03:50.380 the hyundai's pinned right there so there's no way to steal it so it is top of mind for them
00:03:55.060 absolutely everyone now jim even with the most recent reports saying that we have come down
00:04:00.640 come down in 10 or more yeah in uh auto thefts in canada uh that's still top of mind for them
00:04:08.740 that's still top of mind and in fact it's still top of mind for 64 of canadians who fear that
00:04:14.060 their car might be stolen so much so that there's a whole cottage industry now in canada how to
00:04:19.320 protect your car from being stolen there is a new wheel lock so you can put on the steering wheel
00:04:25.000 uh new so there's basically you can go on amazon canada you can go to canadian tire you can go to
00:04:30.980 any auto parts store princess it's almost a section it's a section it is so it's a it's a
00:04:35.700 protect your car section and all the different tips from all the local police forces how to
00:04:40.720 protect your vehicle how to be vehicle smart because i mean when you look at over a hundred
00:04:45.380 thousand in 2022 it dropped to 83 600 plus in 2025 and now you're looking at 20 000 in the first six
00:04:53.400 months of this calendar year in 2026 well that's it that's a drop and and there's many factors i
00:04:59.320 think personally i think the gangs and thieves are getting more selective what they steal well so
00:05:04.760 getting more bang for the buck when all this was going on uh the first time and uh equity the uh
00:05:11.240 i guess the research company that got in on uh trying to figure out where we are with auto thefts
00:05:16.040 here in canada one of the things they noted was that there was an enormous demand internationally
00:05:21.160 because the pandemic had stopped car production absolutely there was a huge car uh demand of
00:05:27.560 auto demand around the world and it was really profitable at that time to take the risk and steal
00:05:34.040 cars and the big pickup trucks and the four by four suvs are gold in a lot of countries around
00:05:40.560 the world you can't there's no ford dealership in a lot of these countries to get a fully loaded
00:05:46.820 four-wheel you know heavy-duty pickup truck i saw uh i remember seeing images and i'll see if i can
00:05:53.200 find some in time to put it up for this episode or in the social media but i remember seeing images
00:05:57.920 of car lots in uganda that had cars on it with ontario kebec license plates and i was like
00:06:05.920 does anybody there care that these are stolen no in fact they don't it's a matter of fact a guy i
00:06:11.540 play hockey with he's a general plumbing contractor and does big jobs obviously he has a pickup truck
00:06:16.980 yeah because he's going to job sites and doing industrial plumbing and he showed us after hockey
00:06:22.080 one night the video and it was his ring camera and someone drove up at about five in the morning
00:06:27.040 looked into his cab of his pickup truck but saw the big wheel lock system on his steering wheel
00:06:31.660 and drove off but they were ready to jack his truck and steal it wow and and i think that's
00:06:37.520 another thing is people have the um you'll get a notification if something pops up on your ring
00:06:43.440 camera or doorbell camera so now everyone's driveway is video monitored people have utilized
00:06:50.560 this whole industry now that's out there these entrepreneurs have made devices to protect your
00:06:55.440 car and i just think people are being smarter like it used to be we just didn't think about it mike
00:07:00.800 so i do think that has contributed cold day oh i'm just look my nice neighborhood i'm gonna start my
00:07:06.000 car go in get my uh travel mug all right say bye to the family and head out to work and you never
00:07:11.600 worried about your car being stolen no i think you're right i think civil vigilance has has
00:07:15.440 definitely is responsible for a lot of the the drop in percentage look at the numbers uh in uh
00:07:22.320 in 2025, the full year, almost 50,000 cars, 47,000 stolen vehicles, which was down to 33%
00:07:29.480 from 2023. So in just a couple of years, it came down 33%. Now, right now, in the first half of
00:07:37.620 2026, we're down 10% again, 20,759 vehicles, putting us, yeah, we'll be at 45,000, likely 43,000
00:07:49.700 by the year's end that is still an insane amount of auto theft 900 million dollars a billion dollars
00:07:56.820 almost in insurance claims and only 59 of stolen vehicles are recovered and when they are they're
00:08:02.820 not recovered in great shape and ecite in their research found a very interesting trend the more
00:08:08.820 expensive the vehicle the more likely it's a target and right now let's face it you can go to
00:08:14.420 any major city in canada and see suvs trucks high-end vehicles 100 150 000 over 200 000
00:08:23.060 so they're concentrating their forces on the really high-end vehicles that will get them
00:08:26.900 the most bang for the buck well the crime doesn't discriminate on what vehicle you sell
00:08:30.660 it's a charge against you know stealing vehicles so stealing my vehicle bad on you steal somebody
00:08:38.180 else's vehicle worth 180 000 and you get away with it good on you but you might as well go for
00:08:44.180 gold if you're going to get the same amount of time and the same crime the same theft charges
00:08:48.260 now you explain this to me because this is something they found in their research that
00:08:51.460 i had not heard about that the rcmp have released a report that saying stolen or manufacturer
00:08:58.420 credentials are being used to obtain auto loans then used again to insure the vehicle so then
00:09:04.180 they could get the they get a loan on the vehicle that's already stolen right they get insurance on
00:09:10.180 the vehicle it gets stolen then they get the insurance payout it's absolutely insane the
00:09:14.500 other thing they're doing is uh 392 fraudulently obtained vehicles worth about 28 million dollars
00:09:20.260 uh was just more re-vinning uh chop shops and things like that so the crime is changing so
00:09:29.380 more sophisticated i think it's more sophisticated i think they're leveraging by the looks of it the
00:09:33.940 vehicles that they're selling into washing them into legitimized vehicles this fraud is what is
00:09:41.460 taking over it's no less costly it's it's it just seems to be under a thin veil of uh it doesn't
00:09:49.860 seem like crime does it it it just seems to not get as much coverage because it's not being stolen
00:09:55.060 out of somebody's house they're leveraging the same vehicle over and over and over again and so
00:10:00.340 uh well the increase is 72 year over year yeah so obviously it's a huge trend for the criminal
00:10:06.500 enterprises mike they use stolen or manufactured ids to obtain vehicle loans as you said insurance
00:10:11.220 and then move the vehicles toward export in other words they legitimize the vehicles they're selling
00:10:17.700 get the loan for it get the insurance for it get it shipped on a container ship to whatever country
00:10:24.500 and get the insurance claim yeah it's uh that's that's almost a devastating uh and and by the way
00:10:31.780 those apparently this was going on simultaneously in about 22 and 2022 2023 so this is not a new
00:10:40.400 addition or or a real trend change yeah it's just surfacing now because we've gotten the stolen cars
00:10:47.240 out of the driveway uh picture down and we're now seeing behind the curtain a little bit i think
00:10:52.840 and i think for average canadians you know i have a beat-up minivan i have an old commuter car and
00:10:59.000 you need that so desperately for work i mean so many canadians if you travel anywhere you were
00:11:04.760 just in drumheller i was in true nova scotia not long ago seeing family there's no transit
00:11:10.120 in those towns in canada let me paint a picture for you uh i am by the way i am holiday in gold
00:11:17.160 elite oh yes give me some of that i don't want to brag but i've stayed in my share of holiday inns
00:11:22.120 in the west those morning muffins are amazing so you know what i'm talking about right people don't
00:11:26.440 understand that bacon is special oh but anyway in these locations as you travel into rural parts of
00:11:32.920 canada the people that are staying in them are the people that are there working the parking
00:11:36.760 lots are full of pickup trucks yes people have had to travel a hundred kilometers or more to
00:11:41.880 do work for the week often much further away here they are now uh in a different city those vehicles
00:11:48.680 are essential to them it's got all their tools it's got their life in those vehicles right and
00:11:53.240 so if they're stolen it's a major upheaval not just to them to their family to the insurance
00:11:59.400 companies but also to the people that are contracting them there to be working using
00:12:03.320 those tools and have ability to actually get around it is a struggle and in these places
00:12:09.800 certainly in vancouver certainly in parts of alberta certainly in certain parts of quebec
00:12:15.720 if you park your car at a hotel the chances are that it could be stolen alongside any other
00:12:20.280 vehicle stolen in that in that proximity i had a friend who was um in the hamilton area staying in
00:12:26.440 a hotel in hamilton he had a wrist injury so he had a kind of like escalated suv with uh the
00:12:33.160 luggage rack the cap right yeah you know like yeah whatever they call there's different names for
00:12:37.480 them anyways because of his wrist injury he couldn't take it down so he thought i'm just
00:12:42.120 going to drive from his point point a to this event he was at in hamilton gets to the hotel
00:12:48.360 it won't go onto the because of the roof cap they said we'll park it outside well sure enough he gets
00:12:52.520 up the next day after breakfast it's gone yeah calls the police they're like yeah that's probably
00:12:56.520 in dubai by now it's gone forget it it's already on a ship out of montreal yeah you're never going
00:13:01.320 to get it back and um and those are the the targeted vehicles stuff like that my daughter's
00:13:07.240 car was stolen right outside of uh the place she was staying in montreal oh and once again the
00:13:12.520 police were like wow we're very close to the port that's that's long gone yeah if that's in a
00:13:16.740 container we won't find you were just in vancouver vancouver has the largest container pier and
00:13:22.060 container port in the country bigger than halifax bigger than montreal it is staggering how much
00:13:27.720 cargo goes in and out of the vancouver container terminal uh for a later episode yes there is no
00:13:35.420 way there is no way no we have the right import export uh security screening there's absolutely
00:13:46.140 no way how many personnel would it take to search all those containers what are we gonna do that's
00:13:51.500 for a later episode but this is the problem so they get stolen once it's on that container
00:13:56.540 the odds of them finding it are slim now the one thing that they're also doing is they're using
00:14:02.300 technology everyone has um a lot of people have like the suitcase thing you can put on your phone
00:14:07.500 your suitcase yeah i've got one right now in our vehicle in uh calgary yes let's check on it shall
00:14:12.540 we right let's see if it's there so the vehicle trackers are helping police and police forces
00:14:18.220 and their gang and crime unit find and track vehicles so if you the faster you can report it
00:14:24.460 to your local police and they go do you have a tracker yes i do give me the information there's
00:14:29.340 a good chance they can intercept it before it gets to a port or before it gets on a container
00:14:34.620 and because once it's on the container on the cargo hold of a ship well then you're all open
00:14:39.020 water it's you know i feel relieved to tell you our vehicle is still where i left it in calgary
00:14:44.140 yeah but no but this is that's that this was like a no-brainer to us you have to
00:14:49.580 and it's it's in a secured yes storage facility and still our thought was we need to keep an eye
00:14:55.820 on this thing but that doesn't mean anything anymore mike if people want something bad enough
00:15:00.620 they'll cut wires in the middle of the night and before anyone realizes what's going on
00:15:04.940 it is long gone i noticed that tesla has cameras all over it and it'll and i think to myself wow
00:15:11.660 we're going to get a really good look at the person who stole that vehicle and the vehicle
00:15:15.260 is still going to be gone 18 percent of uh believe that people believe that new vehicles
00:15:20.460 can withstand uh modern theft techniques only 18 of people believe that yeah i i'm not i mean
00:15:28.060 if a thief wants to get your vehicle i don't care if you drove it off the lot today or it's 20 years
00:15:32.860 old they're that's what they do for a living they're so good at it i mean look at the numbers
00:15:38.700 that's what they do they'll get into any car they want and i can't imagine that any of the
00:15:43.660 technology that's available can't be defeated the people that engineered it could be compromised i
00:15:49.820 i think there's a number of ways that technology loses to thieves always you know we see it in
00:15:55.900 hacking we see it in all they've developed software to to create their own fob to open up
00:16:01.900 your vehicle you've heard of that sons of guns yeah so that's rotten that's unfair but think okay
00:16:08.940 how many vehicles in canada now are heavily software dependent my car will not start without
00:16:15.020 the software running now take it to the next level um all the different it's not just tesla but
00:16:21.100 there's now in canada there's like four or five electric vehicle companies that software runs the
00:16:26.780 vehicle runs everything if they can get into the software and on the road with the laptop then
00:16:33.820 they're in your vehicle i had a little bit of a freak out jim i was driving along about two weeks
00:16:37.660 ago and my screen in the car went went black that is scary and my thought was oh no my car's gonna
00:16:48.060 stop running right i swear to god that was my thing you're looking at your taxi is it still
00:16:52.300 right am i still am i still driving yeah it was a freaky moment for me where technology was not
00:16:57.580 available and also not necessary my car didn't keep driving but for a moment i was like oh i
00:17:03.260 better pull over it reset and then my podcast started again yeah but for a few minutes i was
00:17:09.020 like oh this technology is failing me i'm going to smash into the wall so the police forces um
00:17:15.100 the public safety officers podcasts like this we're doing our best to educate and inform people
00:17:20.860 however let's be honest we're always one or two steps behind the thieves and criminals
00:17:25.980 i mean when you see that that massive increase of how they're using fugazi you know the fake
00:17:32.300 numbers and fake vehicles to get in loans and insurance yeah i mean i didn't even you know
00:17:37.580 so that's something 99 of canadians wouldn't even what they're doing what i thought because we don't
00:17:42.300 think like that i honestly thought it was a rare i thought producer christoph was among the rare
00:17:46.860 number of people doing that fraud but apparently it's rampant 35 of people experienced auto theft
00:17:53.100 or know somebody who has let's show hands who knows somebody who's everyone there so i think
00:17:58.060 that's even a higher mike and here's the crazy thing it's not just big cities we're talking
00:18:03.740 uh medium small towns because you had alluded to the scarcity of vehicles before in rural
00:18:11.100 communities farming communities trying to get your hands on a pickup truck was next to impossible
00:18:15.580 oh it's crazy and all of a sudden the farmers pickup which is their lifeblood driving around
00:18:20.940 the rural property was a possibility being stolen because they were selling it at a profit you know
00:18:26.860 insurance companies don't love selling car insurance did you know that they want to get
00:18:32.940 right and they that's not an accident because in canada selling insurance to people has got to be
00:18:40.540 a nightmare when 47 of people 60 if you're in peel 61 of people know somebody who's had a car stolen
00:18:49.340 the insurance rates have to change because the insurance companies cannot keep a head above
00:18:54.700 water on on auto insurance it becomes a loss leader in many insurance and many insurance
00:18:59.900 companies i think all of them are legislated to do auto insurance or they wouldn't well and the
00:19:06.140 problem is because of the numbers you're alluding to in different parts of the country your insurance
00:19:11.260 is based on your postal code right so you'll you have to let them know what's your postal code
00:19:16.540 because they've done the analytics and the stats and go oh wait a sec there's a 61 chance that
00:19:22.060 vehicle be stolen in that postal code so you're going to pay more 39 to 45 difference in my
00:19:27.260 insurance from the year that i lived in brampton until i moved to my that much yeah yeah and i
00:19:33.900 have a daughter who's now in alberta in in south end of edmonton her insurance is way down from
00:19:39.180 what it was in the york region north of toronto absolutely yeah and for good reason i mean yeah
00:19:44.620 the amount of traffic and things like that yeah yeah and the amount of auto theft per capital
00:19:48.300 I do, per capita, I think is a big difference for the insurance companies.
00:19:53.740 But the more we push or allow this to push the insurance companies to the edge,
00:19:59.180 the more that it's costing everybody,
00:20:02.300 the more that these chop shops cut up cars and put them back on the road,
00:20:06.640 the more that it's affecting the auto industry.
00:20:09.400 I think the idea of cars being stolen in Canada
00:20:12.800 has been around for decades, since the automobile.
00:20:16.400 since the automobile was on the roads in canada cars are being stolen however as canadians is
00:20:22.320 naturally trusting law-abiding people there was a belief that if you were in a rural community
00:20:29.000 suburban community you were okay that's something that happens downtown in the big city so what
00:20:33.980 happened beginning especially in the pandemic peaking in 2022 the last few years has opened
00:20:39.080 the eyes of a lot of canadians mike that just because you live in a suburban community in a
00:20:44.640 city in canada that means nothing you're as much at risk as we're seeing from these numbers you're
00:20:49.500 talking about having your car stolen as being downtown in the biggest city in the country
00:20:53.520 well they'll get your car and they can drive away in it that's the other thing it's it's the kind of
00:20:57.740 theft that you know uh unless you catch it while it's happening it's hard to get them caught um
00:21:03.520 82 percent of thefts uh theft surveyed happened at or next to the victim's home so this is the
00:21:09.900 other thing that proximity of crime to where you're sleeping oh it's scary it's a terrifying
00:21:15.900 proposition for canadian and not every car thief is just going there with some tools to open it
00:21:20.860 you don't know if they've got a shotgun or a glock or a knife or what they're capable of so i know a
00:21:26.600 lot of police forces like don't be vigilante because it is your car worth your life yeah that's
00:21:31.120 a question you have to ask could be coming into your home to get a fob or duplicate the fob i
00:21:35.260 don't even know what they do but yeah who knows if your garage is attached to your home and they're
00:21:39.280 going into the garage after the car which we've seen more and more happening uh i know so many
00:21:44.360 people that they don't lock the door between the garage and inside the house because that's the if
00:21:49.640 they do park the car then they assume it's just okay because the garage door is closed and they
00:21:54.660 just leave it open all the time we have a regiment in our house every night is everything locked
00:21:59.560 next person checks it because that's what it's kind of become so auto theft i think has a lot
00:22:04.900 of emotional impact on absolutely the average citizen here because you feel violated violated
00:22:11.100 first and foremost and you're like wait a sec unless you are in an urban area of this country
00:22:17.340 on a subway line on the go train line with access to transit there are so many millions of canadians
00:22:23.280 without their car they can't get to work they can't get their kids to school they can't live
00:22:27.940 Exactly. I have to say, also, I think the numbers are a little outrageous. When we say, okay, 100,000 cars were stolen in 2022, what was the number? Over 100,000.
00:22:39.560 Over 100,000.
00:22:40.340 Over 100,000 cars were stolen in 2022. And we're down to only 46,000 in 2025, what looks like maybe a similar number in 2026. We need to really be careful about that number.
00:22:56.120 The first number, 100,000, was epidemic, grotesque, putting people in serious jeopardy of thinking about the security of themselves in this country.
00:23:09.540 It put Canada on the map as this rogue nation of car theft.
00:23:14.840 And in the end, we're still just around 50,000 cars stolen a year, which is outrageous.
00:23:20.760 It's nothing to celebrate, Mike.
00:23:22.120 No, it's not.
00:23:22.760 So I think saying, yeah, it's down, it's down, it's down.
00:23:25.520 It's a start.
00:23:26.120 great it needs to be eliminated to some degree and what are those steps so now i think about that
00:23:33.000 what can we do you pointed out and i pointed out the shipping container situation is untenable
00:23:39.440 we have in by the way in many of these key areas where cars are being stolen
00:23:44.020 are hubs of logistics in other words yes there's warehouses there's trucking fields there's
00:23:49.980 container yards galore in all of the areas where the cars are being stolen and without a tracker
00:23:55.580 or how do you have there's no hope of finding it oh uh one of the things about the tracker that i
00:24:00.220 was told when i was buying this one is that they have tracker trackers what does that mean well
00:24:04.780 they'll approach and see if you've got a tracker in your car it'll come up on their phone and
00:24:08.460 they'll just be able to disable it really so they're that sophisticated and it's really not
00:24:14.460 that sophisticated the technology in the first place so so then you go to the police and say
00:24:19.660 officer officer look i got a tracker like disabled yeah it's probably on another car in
00:24:24.540 in the lot right now let's go see sure enough it'll be discarded or whatever the case wow um
00:24:30.560 but the uh this week crime show focusing on auto i think is is a good idea because i think the new
00:24:38.260 numbers coming out of this summer might be another shock to us and i wonder how you know various
00:24:43.660 police uh how the provinces and how the federal government is going to look at the numbers uh at
00:24:50.540 the year's end and whether we will celebrate them because i i'm like you i don't think that
00:24:54.380 they're anything to celebrate here's something that's underlying all of this because of the
00:24:58.640 economy because of interest rates because of money there's i know less and less people buying
00:25:03.780 new cars they're buying used cars two three four five years old and you see new car lots jam with
00:25:11.540 inventory mike jammed and we depleted the inventory new cars in the pandemic and it's changed no there
00:25:19.260 is a glut in the market of cars you're right across the country when i was traveling the west
00:25:24.060 uh car lots were completely full the storage areas where we're parking our vehicles are full of uh
00:25:30.700 dealership uh cars winning because they have no room on their dealer lot dealer lots right yeah
00:25:35.500 there was a holding several holding spaces uh i noticed one shopping mall as we made our way
00:25:40.220 through saskatchewan absolutely jammed with white pickup trucks it was really it looked like ai
00:25:47.260 so i don't know uh but i think you're right there must be a glut on the end and let me ask you your
00:25:53.180 next car are you looking for a new car or are you gonna buy used well i have a used car and
00:25:59.080 my partner has a used vehicle and we're gonna have to keep it driving at least a couple more
00:26:03.580 years before we even think about it exactly financially i think most canadians are in that
00:26:07.800 boat we have to just keep it going yeah so the other thing i think the thieves are going to find
00:26:12.680 is that there are aging cars out there that people are just not willing to get rid of
00:26:17.080 one because go ahead steal my steal my clunker i gotta say that's 12 years old you think you
00:26:22.440 want to go to jail for that go for it have a nice time yeah yeah so uh i do think that there's going
00:26:27.080 to be a bit more of that out there as well uh in the comments if you don't mind what are the
00:26:31.880 solutions uh what are your experiences what yeah what happened to you what happened with your car
00:26:37.240 when it got stolen and uh how did you feel jim thanks for talking thank you