True Patriot Love - Has Canadian Politics Lost Its Guardrails？

00:00:00.000 today on true patriot love under the pillar politics i have brian judan our resident political

00:00:10.440 uh advisor here um or critic right welcome brian how you doing paul good so uh let a few days go

00:00:19.680 by because you know those first kind of texts you sent to me were very heated so you know and i don't

00:00:25.400 know where you're at now but i wanted to sit down with you matt generu right and the crossing of the

00:00:30.980 floor conservative to liberals you know he wrote the letter on february 18th um and my jaw dropped

00:00:38.260 so then i thought to myself okay i need i need to listen for a while because i know everyone in

00:00:44.100 media goes out and reacts and you get all this you know hyperbole and comments and crazy texas but i

00:00:51.040 needed to sit down and say okay i thought he was gone you know november 6th i thought he had kind

00:00:56.760 of went on vacation needed time for his family he was going to go leave resign from politics

00:01:01.700 and voila he reappeared on the other side so as the media said i guess he had too much time with

00:01:09.000 his family brian what happened here you know it's hard here's the thing i wish i knew what happened

00:01:16.480 i wish i knew what was going on in politics in general i wish i knew what was going on with the

00:01:22.320 conservative party and members crossing the floor what in in a manner that seems almost constant and

00:01:28.900 orchestrated these people are getting elected and then a short time later a very short time later

00:01:34.820 they're crossing the floor so i think that what's happening let's go first of all let's just deal with

00:01:42.240 the right honorable part right these are supposed to be the right honorable members of parliament

00:01:48.920 and when i break down that wording on the word honorable it's honor and ability right let's just

00:01:55.860 cut a line right in the middle they are not serving with honor they are not serving with any kind of

00:02:01.020 ability that benefits their constituents at all and they haven't been for quite some time it seems that

00:02:06.920 everybody is just following a conga line and meandering through the canadian pocketbook

00:02:13.040 and taking whatever they can to line their own pockets i don't know what matt jenneru is getting out

00:02:20.240 of this i don't know what his constituents are getting out of it he hasn't told me what i'm getting

00:02:26.100 out of it or what his constituents are getting out of it i know what the liberals are getting out of

00:02:30.460 it they're going to get a nice majority because there's bound to be one or two more that are going

00:02:34.660 across the floor so i think that there's an exercise it's a power struggle but it's an exercise

00:02:41.340 in um what's the word i'm looking for self personal self-interest that's what i'm seeing right now and i

00:02:48.400 think matt jenneru was just thinking about himself and believing that he can do more by being a liberal

00:02:54.540 for his constituents than being a conservative which is a pile of horse pucky well apparently brian he 0.64

00:03:03.040 listened to the speech at davos right okay and that brought him out of retirement he then had to

00:03:10.940 come back and use his unbelievable financial skills right to help the prime minister as an economic

00:03:18.720 consultant to the prime minister right so so i went back and i said okay i didn't know he had an

00:03:25.360 economic background right i didn't know he was a financial whiz you know i had no idea of all these

00:03:31.060 things so i went back and took a look and i said okay where did matt uh jenneru go to school we got

00:03:37.540 a bachelor's arts degree from the university of alberta arts arts okay yeah political science was his

00:03:45.340 major right so he spent his whole life really in politics right so that's his background so but but

00:03:54.320 we now have him sitting beside the prime minister as the economic advisor to the prime minister um

00:04:00.800 and now so then i i started to look at and i i sat back and said okay now relax because i don't like

00:04:06.560 these floor crossings either i i find them very odd and a little shady um a lot shady truth so i started

00:04:16.080 look back and said okay well where was the opposition in this right so and at what point

00:04:24.560 do we have to kind of take blame if i'm on the opposition side i have to say well i can't criticize

00:04:31.680 anymore because maybe i have to have a contingency plan for these floor crossings now and in this case

00:04:38.960 you know he on november 6th we got this this interesting letter from matt and he wrote uh

00:04:49.440 pierre polyev and he wrote the conservative party um i ran in the last election hopeful that canadians

00:04:55.680 would put the faith in a team led by pierre polyev's conservatives offering a chance to change

00:05:01.360 canada's perception in our own country and around the world i wanted desperately to play a role in that

00:05:08.160 vision although that outcome was not what i anticipated i have great admiration for the many

00:05:15.200 remarkable individuals who were elected to the house of commons on both sides of the aisle who

00:05:19.840 continue to dedicate themselves to the betterment of our nation and their work that gives me faith

00:05:25.760 the momentum toward a stronger and more unified canada endures with all that in mind i spoke with our

00:05:33.040 opposition with a colleague and a friend for whom i have great utmost respect i informed of my decision

00:05:40.240 to resign as a member of parliament it was not an easy decision but is but it is i believe the right one

00:05:49.280 so he resigned he resigned that sounds like a resignation letter i'm done right you know like

00:05:54.720 any employer job i quit right so pierre the opposition

00:06:04.320 does what well well i'll tell you what he's doing he's playing hockey he's working out right yeah he's

00:06:15.760 taking care of himself he's taking care of himself you know we got lots of videos of him scoring goals on

00:06:21.120 empty nets him in the gym getting fit right but at that point don't you think we're in alberta right

00:06:29.040 this is a place that he went to get his seat back right a conservative stronghold he has someone who's

00:06:37.840 been rumored to have been flipping you know his thinking of going to be a liberal he vacates his seat

00:06:45.360 doesn't he doesn't he go grab that seat back and say by election yeah but no no we don't do by election

00:06:53.600 we go for christmas right yeah november 6 we get ready we have santa claus we skate around on the ice

00:06:59.760 we get a good dumbbell workout in right we go back you know because it's vacation time we don't want to

00:07:08.640 try to focus when we're on vacation we go back february well and sorry in the middle i got to go back

00:07:16.320 right there's a lot of people saying right at that point to the conservatives well you know you coerced

00:07:23.840 the resignation and he can matt comes out and says no i was not coerced right i ran under the leadership

00:07:32.000 in hopes that we could form a government and it didn't happen i want to spend time with my family

00:07:37.280 please respect my family distance okay yeah okay so he's done he's done done right he's done

00:07:47.120 like okay you know i read that i'm like that you know whatever's going on with the guy maybe it's

00:07:51.120 not good right maybe he's having some families you know have people like whatever it is family first

00:07:56.080 sometimes that's what you that's what you would expect from reading that note in particular right so

00:08:02.960 then i dig in because i'm trying to understand this like you are you say i don't understand what he's

00:08:07.120 doing i don't understand what he's doing i mean who is this guy right went to school in alberta kind

00:08:12.800 of grew up in alberta uh you know he uh basically became the first uh when they re-boundaried the

00:08:23.600 boundaries for the election in edmonton and riverbend he gets in he has a overwhelming majority

00:08:30.960 so 25 percent he wins by 25 percent um i think the electric there is something there's 121 000

00:08:39.680 people there 80 something thousand electorates you know 60 000 votes so it's a high turnout on the

00:08:46.400 voting polls um he wins uh resoundingly 25 percent the first time second time he goes down to 15

00:08:55.200 last election he only wins by four percent okay so he's slipping he's slipping down he's got a family

00:09:04.080 his wife is a surgeon and she's in her fourth year of schooling you know she's a four-year surgical

00:09:10.640 doctor um so she's bright girl definitely doing well um he has two daughters he's living in riverbend

00:09:19.120 he's out in alberta okay he decides to move so all of a sudden we see this post come up which

00:09:25.440 then got quickly taken down that she's accept accepted a job in victoria bc so hang on a second

00:09:32.640 so he's representing a riding in edmonton yes but he's moving to british columbia with his wife now i

00:09:41.600 don't want children i don't want to assume here's where i don't want to assume anything because i don't

00:09:44.960 know what's going on i don't know if they're going together if they've split or if they well i have

00:09:49.280 no idea what they're doing quite frankly all i know is that it does there is a post that she's

00:09:54.320 accepted a job in bc it goes up it comes down you know uh it was reported in a bunch of newspapers so

00:10:01.360 what we do know is that they have a new house in bc bc okay and two daughters so he's 45 years old

00:10:08.880 roughly 40 yeah 45 46 he's so basically he's uh probably got daughters i assume between 15 and 20.

00:10:18.640 okay two of them somewhere so those daughters i assume are moving with out to bc so they've made

00:10:25.280 a lifestyle change the daughter's going to bc or university somewhere but the daughters are going off

00:10:31.280 their head a new home in bc again where is our leader right well hold on hold on nick you got

00:10:41.040 another clip right you got another clip there yeah oh oh that's the wrong clip nick but anyway

00:10:51.120 that's a boxing clip sorry that i don't know how that got mixed in of someone taking a dive but

00:10:55.680 but you know what um our leader hasn't kept track of where matt is hasn't figured out you

00:11:03.440 know it's reporting up there the world knows that matt's moving to bc bc you know if you drive it you

00:11:10.640 get the u-haul you load up the truck it's what 17 hours to the coast it's about that yeah so you know

00:11:16.560 you're driving along with the family right you're making phone calls all his daughters are making

00:11:21.840 phone because i'm assuming two girls right two girls have a network of friends so i've been to

00:11:26.880 edmonton alberta it's not that big right you've been there no i've been there i've been to calgary

00:11:34.160 and by the way matt is a dedicated oilers fan oh right okay now he's canucks yeah now he's a

00:11:44.160 dedicated oilers fan he's going to the now he's driving to the west coast new hall or not maybe he's

00:11:49.600 i don't know what's going on with the family but but i assume he is let's just for this assumptions

00:11:53.920 right the girls are all calling everyone all of edmonton knows matt is left except for pierre

00:12:00.640 except for paulia except for all the other uh conservatives in edmonton don't know he's going

00:12:08.240 here still we don't get aggressively asking for him to step down give his seat up right we just kind of

00:12:15.920 quietly let him maybe in the spring i'll i'll give up my seat you can do your by-election and

00:12:22.160 everything else right but here's the thing i have no explanation for what pauliev might have been

00:12:29.520 thinking might have known might not have known i i wish i could i wish i could even speak to that

00:12:37.040 the thing that bothers me the most is as the ceo of the conservative party i agree with you pauliav

00:12:44.320 should have been paying attention his people should have been paying attention let's just say

00:12:48.080 a ceo is a very busy individual that has lots to think about he's got a lot on his mind but there

00:12:53.520 should have been some advisors there with their eyes on this guy doing what he's got to do uh making

00:12:58.960 sure he's doing what he's got to do like leave the problem that i have with all of it in like the big

00:13:05.920 picture is that this sounds like a jilted spouse right so you were talking a lot about matt jenner

00:13:14.240 and his family right just a second ago because family is everything family is one of the most

00:13:18.240 important things that any of us could ever have i'm childless but i've got three great step kids and

00:13:22.880 i'm grateful every day for that so i want to make sure that my step children are well taken care of and

00:13:27.920 i give them everything that i possibly can matt jenner as a politician as an honorable politician

00:13:37.040 what he fails to realize and what i think a lot of people aren't attacking him on is the fact that

00:13:42.000 his entire riding should have been considered his children he's there to take care of them

00:13:48.800 and nobody's doing that he's looking at mrs robinson across the street and going wow mrs robinson's kind

00:13:55.200 of hot and i like mrs robinson and over here you know i keep getting told to pick up my socks and i

00:14:02.320 keep getting told to put away my clothes and my car's parked on the wrong side of the driveway

00:14:07.840 and all of this other noise right but he doesn't once go to the kids and say mommy and daddy are having

00:14:15.520 a fight no right and we don't agree with one another so daddy's gonna step away for a little while

00:14:22.480 and he's gonna you know try and get his head screwed back on and mommy's gonna do the same 1.00

00:14:26.640 thing and then we're gonna see if things get better that's all he really had to do if he would have

00:14:31.200 voiced to his constituents like any sane normal human being that's in business or practices um a

00:14:38.240 good sense he would have actually said something to the people i'm struggling right now with the

00:14:42.800 conservative party and here's why he would have called the town hall he would have called 10.

00:14:46.720 he should have called 15 and brought all the people out because when you're about to switch sides

00:14:50.880 especially in alberta you're going to go from conservative to liberal when you live next door

00:14:57.200 at a fort mac where all of the oil and the minerals and the good times are right you're going to actually

00:15:03.120 just walk out the door he's the dad that left the house to go get milk and never came back that's what

00:15:11.040 he is that's how he's behaving and we take it this is the part that bothers me paul is that we sit there

00:15:17.040 and go it's okay i'm fatherless now i'm just going to go on about my business and it'll just be fine

00:15:23.440 it's not fine it's not fine it happens over and over and over again in canadian politics

00:15:29.680 i'm sick of it i'm a blue collar guy my father came to canada on a cattle ship at 15 and went to a coal

00:15:37.360 mine my uncle came here before him and went and lived in a barn in markham just and he came here

00:15:43.680 everybody came here legally right they did what they had to do and they succeeded and they did it

00:15:47.840 all on their own they worked really really really hard and they were canadians when they got here

00:15:52.400 and they voted in every election and they paid attention to what was going on in the country and

00:15:56.480 they took care of their business but when i have politicians that aren't taking care of their business 0.78

00:16:00.720 which is my business i've got a serious problem with that so i ask myself the question why do i need

00:16:06.320 a central government in canada why do we have a country that is so large that we have one central

00:16:12.560 government running it all when i know damn well alberta saskatchewan manitoba ontario quebec right

00:16:19.840 out to the east coast bc well that's lost i got nothing to say about bc but in general we should

00:16:25.760 just split this whole thing up we should end it people died to to to serve canada to make sure that

00:16:32.800 we existed to make sure that every generation after those that that went to war for it would be taken 0.99

00:16:40.000 care of but now the politicians aren't doing their job those people died so that our politicians could

00:16:47.040 work for the people and i'm sick and tired of me one of the persons not being recognized as being

00:16:55.280 important but hold on big guy so i get it i understand your frustration i heard it when on you

00:17:00.960 send me those texas right so i get it you know i can i can see it right and we all feel frustrated but

00:17:06.960 there are the guardrails that are supposed to be in place by the opposition that and that's where

00:17:12.400 i was trying to come back and chat with you about it because you know here again the guardrail that's

00:17:18.240 supposed to be in place right so when matt jenner who does his you know move u-haul shift whatever

00:17:26.400 there's also a consideration of how his past performance has been right in riverbend and we talked

00:17:33.200 about the fact that you know it's the not only has his support declined after each election on the

00:17:41.840 conservative side but also i took a look at riverbend and riverbend as a demographic makeup is changing

00:17:50.080 quite a bit right so it's a shift the the income level is mid to low quite frankly the the the split is

00:17:59.040 50 european and then very diverse so it's turned out to be a very diverse community probably changed

00:18:05.600 radically from when he got in so then again it comes to me then the thing i'm thinking again okay

00:18:11.360 we've we've missed the fact that he's moving we've missed the fact that he's resigned but kept his seat

00:18:17.680 till the spring we've missed the fact that you know that the whole family's making phone calls

00:18:24.080 you think politically we'd be saying who do we replace them with now so you think there'd be a

00:18:32.320 group actively on the ground that would be saying let's go find a candidate that meets the demographic

00:18:37.920 of riverbend so we don't just win by four percent now but that's not a consideration that's not even

00:18:44.800 happening and quite frankly we're doing other things we're asleep at the switch and we're not doing what

00:18:51.200 we're supposed to be doing at this point right which is being the official opposition and protecting

00:18:57.440 canada and those rights and making sure so then i come to the fact so then here's where i get brian

00:19:03.040 this is the frustrating thing me he walks across you know we get the the another letter this letter says

00:19:11.840 i watched the speech in davos i was uh you know cheering i was happy i changed my mind and i now

00:19:20.800 want to join the liberal party first of all he shouldn't have been allowed to change his mind

00:19:29.760 that the resignation should have stood should have once the resignation goes in it should

00:19:34.400 be a resignation that's held at that point if he says i want to come back then elections

00:19:40.400 candidates should be going well we're befuddled you can't you you've you you you've resigned you've

00:19:45.200 resigned resigned if if you resign as a ceo because you feel that ownership isn't treating you fairly

00:19:54.320 and then you change your mind and say i want to come back and your ownership looks at you goes are

00:19:58.400 you out of your mind you do like you resign you you i resign but i'm gonna resign next year you're 0.93

00:20:03.600 embarrassed by us yeah right first you said you were embarrassed by the liberals because you were with 0.85

00:20:09.520 us on the opposition now you're saying that they're fantastic human beings and i want to join that

00:20:13.840 company no there's something wrong and that that should be a rule that should be put in place

00:20:18.720 in terms of parliamentary democracy especially ours which is the westminster democracy is a joke as

00:20:25.200 far as i'm concerned but when a resignation gets set set down it should be done and dusted that's

00:20:32.240 it you should you're gone this is politics yes it's politics this is our life my life your life

00:20:39.360 their life well it's not fair you're not hired you're elected right right so when you resign

00:20:45.760 you shouldn't have the ability to pick your end date no no i agree 100 if i'm a company and i want

00:20:52.080 to keep you because your skill sets so you know you're on a site and quite frankly you got a great

00:20:56.640 guy he's an awesome electrician or someone worked for it if he says i'm going to another job but i'll

00:21:02.000 give you until the end of the month you trust him and you need him for the job you keep him there agree

00:21:07.600 right you know he resigned but you give him the time he's an elected official quite frankly he has

00:21:12.560 no skill set that won't be replaced in a by-election there's no reason to give him extra time no no it

00:21:18.720 makes no zero it's nonsensical zero it's a nonsensical idea right that quite frankly should

00:21:24.240 have been capped so so here we are here we are and this is the funny part that i that i kind of laughed

00:21:29.600 so then he walks across and then on x we get pierre paulia the official opposition mark carney is

00:21:37.440 trying to seize a costly liberal majority government that canadians voted against in the last election

00:21:43.040 through dirty backroom deals dirty backroom deals matt generu has betrayed the people of edmonton

00:21:49.920 riverbend who voted for affordable food here we go again and homes safe streets and strong resource

00:21:57.680 sector a strong resource sector conservatives will continue our fight for canada that's affordable

00:22:03.600 safe and self-reliant he can't he can't help himself but no he can't he can't help with talking

00:22:08.800 points so so here we go so the interesting thing we were doing a show so this is the the same week and

00:22:15.280 this comes out and we're about to do and nick if you you can throw it up there we're we're doing a

00:22:21.440 pam body at pam bondy epstein show and we're we're at the one of the hearings where they're yelling at

00:22:27.840 each other right yes and so for those of you who don't watch uh us politics you know when when uh uh

00:22:35.760 the house uh the congress uh asked for a hearing on something this is traditionally what they do now

00:22:41.840 it's like a scream fest so nick play is the quick clip i'm not gonna get in the gutter for her 0.73

00:22:46.640 theatrics i find it how many have you excuse me i'm gonna answer the question answer my question

00:22:52.480 no i'm gonna answer the question the way i want to answer the question the way i asked it chairman

00:22:57.920 jordan i'm not gonna get in the gutter with these people that's fine thanks yeah so you know this is

00:23:03.520 this goes on for you know days where they scream at each other about contract and i'm not saying that's

00:23:09.040 the way to do it trust me i don't think it it is but the one thing i think that we need to kind

00:23:14.480 of put into our system so then i went back and i said okay is there a process is there a guard rail

00:23:20.480 to do this so in this statement he just made he just said there's backroom deals mm-hmm okay

00:23:29.520 call an ethics hearing i i couldn't agree more you said it i didn't say it i didn't you didn't

00:23:35.040 honestly he walked across you came out and told that said that our prime minister was doing backroom

00:23:41.440 deals that's your words right but those backroom deals are allowed in our parliament unfortunately

00:23:48.640 that's the disgusting part that it's allowed okay but if you think it's you're saying that you know

00:23:55.920 he let them down he's doing backroom deals like okay call it up ask how he did the deal

00:24:02.640 hold the hearing get it you know again you want to hear you want to stop this from happening they're like

00:24:09.040 you know pierre and the official opposition want to make sure that no one's going to cross anymore

00:24:17.520 everything else so your best thing to stop that from doing is you put a statement on x with the

00:24:24.240 same slogans at the beginning yeah so that's the best you can do that's the most energy you can give

00:24:30.400 this so but what can he do though i mean he can ask for it he can ask true he can it will likely be

00:24:36.560 refused okay so you because there'll be parliamentary privilege involved there's going to be something

00:24:41.600 there where the prime minister can talk to whoever he wants to and say whatever he wants behind closed

00:24:45.360 doors there's i don't think that that would even work i don't think it works i think it has to be

00:24:51.920 i think it has to be beaten up in the public domain i don't think that look our government is so corrupt

00:24:58.960 and so backwards right now that no ma it's just a game it's a complete game it's two friends having

00:25:06.640 a fight over a game of monopoly that's really what it's coming down to at the end one day this guy's

00:25:13.040 going to win the next day that guy's going to win the ethics committees they don't care nobody cares

00:25:18.080 nobody's watching it the people don't get to watch their own government they have these things like that

00:25:23.840 are supposed to be acting on our behalf and making sure that things are all above board and on the

00:25:28.800 beam but they're not and i don't know why so how do we get rid of how do we revamp the ethics component

00:25:36.880 and the ethics committee i don't know i i don't have a clue it just keeps happening over and over and over

00:25:43.120 again and it has for as long as i've been alive but i've let it go because i didn't have twitter and i

00:25:47.920 didn't have facebook i don't have any of those things anyway but right the point is that's where you're

00:25:52.400 getting it you're getting it in a 35 second sound bite bite on a youtube short or a tick tock video

00:25:57.280 and and that's all that it is i don't think that polyev actually could have done anything he could

00:26:03.920 have asked for it and maybe he should i think he could have honestly brian i think he could have been

00:26:09.200 more proactive up front and move matt not let matt had the chance to get there so i think he could have

00:26:14.400 been more aggressive trying to see you resign you're out i'm going to a by-election i do think when

00:26:20.400 before he makes that statement about the prime minister he should have been prepared to follow

00:26:24.560 up i think there should have been a plan there should have been a pr plan they should have asked

00:26:28.960 for even if they denied him he should have asked for a hearing yeah he should he should have asked

00:26:33.520 for he said you can deny it that's all fine but if you're denying it you're hiding okay so but hindsight

00:26:37.920 being look at look at this we're going on here we just watched we just watched something going on

00:26:42.080 in the u.s right now right not pretty right the ebstein thing's mighty ugly but the dirty laundry is out

00:26:48.800 listen they're talking about it you we never may never get the truth but there is a lot of time

00:26:53.840 like they're and you know kudos because quite frankly good or bad that's what you need to do

00:26:59.680 as a society right because that's the only way things get better just just going on and saying okay

00:27:04.400 well he did it he walked for us now that can happen regardless of whatever the backroom deal was who

00:27:09.680 cares we got we do that a lot as canadians we we continue to do that the guardrails there

00:27:15.120 the opposition's there he's just got to exercise it to do what he is going to do and to your point

00:27:22.240 the problem the problem and i agree with you there i'm not disagreeing the problem is and i i we went

00:27:27.440 out to calgary and we saw it firsthand the problem is the comfort level just to have that job right it

00:27:33.520 becomes what happens now in canada formal oppositions they get the job they get super comfortable it's

00:27:40.400 cushy it's great expense report there's another raise coming out here you know they give themselves

00:27:45.680 another big raise because they think they're underpaid so quite frankly you get a house you

00:27:50.160 know you get all these perks flights you say great speeches people shake your hand a lot you know you

00:27:56.720 can kind of lag it on you make great fundraising money quite frankly you probably make some money on

00:28:01.600 the side by doing speeches and events and everything else for a little while it's a pretty nice payday and

00:28:07.040 then quite frankly uh when you're done either get on a couple boards or you disappear somewhere else

00:28:12.880 as an ambassador and he would probably disappear because he's not a very impressive individual by

00:28:17.840 his resume anyway my my thing is probably you've brought up guardrails a couple of times so i'm

00:28:24.080 looking at it i did this just popped into my head so if i'm going off topic just you can bring me back

00:28:28.240 but we've got guardrails right so we get guardrail guardrail but then we've got roadblock for the

00:28:33.920 constituents and i think that maybe what should happen and i don't know how we could do it as

00:28:38.880 citizens but in my estimation i think it would be a good idea if somebody enshrined in law that when

00:28:45.440 somebody crosses the floor that there's an immediate referendum held in the riding so that they can

00:28:52.000 approve 100 or deny yeah so hindsight being what it is matt jennery was gone all these floor crossers 1.00

00:28:59.840 they're done so what are we going to do as citizens and as voters to stop this kind of stuff from

00:29:07.200 happening again because traditionally conservatives cross the floor far more than liberals do way way

00:29:14.800 more than liberals do i think there's something like eight of them since 2000 or something like that

00:29:20.560 and only four liberals that i could count the cross to the conservatives so so how come we can't how do we

00:29:27.040 get our elected officials to put a bill in there into into the house of commons that can get voted on

00:29:35.360 so that we in the ridings because i'll tell you anybody votes against that bill if if this if every

00:29:41.920 if every riding goes for this if all canadians in every riding just say you know what here do it

00:29:46.560 mr mp do it mr mp send them a letter send them a letter send them a letter if one liberal votes against

00:29:52.720 that or one conservative or one block then the whole house of cards should come down because

00:29:57.920 that's all we're asking for equal and fair treatment we're not getting it but okay and i'm with you i

00:30:04.080 like the idea is there a bill coming from the formal opposition no there isn't why not brian i i don't

00:30:11.680 understand it this is what i'm trying to figure out because why not because what you said earlier right

00:30:16.880 it it it it actually has become not about politics no it's our roadblock yeah and it's comfort i'm at

00:30:24.560 a dead-end street no and you know and we you know it's kind of funny that when we watch this and rule

00:30:30.880 and the shows kind of came on uh mainstream tv they're saying you know this is you know a quest to

00:30:37.840 get uh the majority government and everything else he has the majority government he's operating like a

00:30:44.080 majority now yeah so it you don't they don't they're not seriously thinking that so i know people

00:30:50.560 say and if we only get so many votes and if we win the by-election that's all showmanship right right

00:30:57.840 now the budget passed the next budget will pass yes it will what is going to be the there won't be

00:31:05.280 anything that'll cause an election in quite a while now so he's gonna ride because they're already

00:31:11.600 putting out the polling numbers they're already saying oh uh the pierre polyev is now 14 points

00:31:17.840 and the party's dropping and then you know the leadership polling is this they're already working

00:31:22.400 that channel so they have no interest in that i don't think the prime minister has any interest in

00:31:27.520 it canadians don't have any interest in an election so quite frankly that whole thing is going

00:31:32.320 to ride along for quite a long time he's going to get to a point where you know quite frankly he's

00:31:37.840 made enough money or he's happy enough with what he's done that he'll just probably quit he'll just

00:31:42.880 try to turn it in because the one thing we learned when we went out to the uh leadership uh you know

00:31:51.440 boat uh in calgary was he has control of it yes so they hold it in a very out of the way place they

00:32:00.160 make it cost prohibitive to members to come they bring members in there's a question mark about who the

00:32:05.600 members are you know yeah canadians non-canadians they bring a bunch of people who give him 80 votes

00:32:12.240 that he's already got set up and he gets the leadership of the party so that's already predetermined

00:32:17.920 that that's something that he can do that honestly from the look of it he can probably do that for the

00:32:22.880 next 10 years yep i don't think anyone's going to be able to step in because he's got firm hold on

00:32:27.120 that right so with that said you have two parties both comfortable yeah and okay so you throw up a

00:32:37.120 couple sound bites you know six times a year you know that's all you're doing you're not in session

00:32:42.480 very long you know they hold these minute sessions now quite frankly they don't go that long so quite

00:32:48.160 frankly you get five bills up three pass two go down you get six sound bites a session you know you

00:32:57.920 jump on a plane the prime minister disappears into 10 countries or nine countries as he's doing today

00:33:04.240 you know he misses part of the session by the time he gets back there's only so many what he's got now

00:33:09.520 he's only got a couple months until summer and summer session he delays summer session going back

00:33:14.560 in the fall they all delay sessions now you're only sitting in government for a short period of time

00:33:20.400 okay it's no it's exhausting you're right because as you like when you lay it all out yeah it is

00:33:27.520 it's tiring it's tiring to hear it out loud yes right it's even more tiring to understand it like just

00:33:36.240 to sit here you've you've you download all that on me and i'm just sitting here going yeah you're right

00:33:41.200 yeah you're right yeah you're right so when does it then become incumbent upon me when i say me i

00:33:49.040 mean every canadian voter to grab the bull by the horns because none of us know how to do it we know

00:33:55.760 that there's a bull right we know that it has horns but none of us understand our own political system

00:34:01.280 enough to try and change it so i'll give you just a very brief example many many years ago um in in my

00:34:08.080 hometown my mother was complaining about something across the street and she went to the township and

00:34:14.080 she said to the town i want this to change they said well no you can't change it but if you want to

00:34:18.800 change it then you can write a bylaw and see if you can get it passed well guess what she did she wrote a

00:34:24.880 bylaw and she got it passed why because she worked in um she worked in another municipal government she 0.96

00:34:31.520 understood how it worked she put it all together and she did it i can't name one canadian that can go out

00:34:37.840 and put something together and say i want a referendum every time somebody crosses the floor

00:34:44.160 i want a resignation to mean resignation so how do we this is the real thing true patriot love this is

00:34:51.040 what it's all about how do we do it we're too busy griping and letting it happen so but what happens so

00:34:58.800 and this is being a young country is my belief this is my opinion now it basically being a young country

00:35:05.840 what we've seen in europe right in parliamentary politics is over time parties splinter into more

00:35:13.120 parties right and this is why this is what happens this is what eventually happens uh you mentioned you

00:35:19.840 know uh how parliamentary laws is kind of wacky yeah so this is what's terrible over time they splinter off

00:35:29.040 and you get at least five parties so when we took a look we did another show and we looked at it and

00:35:34.560 what we found is all those european countries all have five or more parties and competitive parties not

00:35:41.920 like ndp and green parties competitive parties that actually split the vote and that is why it happens so

00:35:48.800 and to me this is kind of the onset these are the symptoms of the of the disease and that's why it happened

00:35:57.040 there and it'll happen here it's inevitable right people have tried it in the past the timing was bad

00:36:02.880 the timing was wrong right the timing's becoming you know you look at this show alone right we we look at

00:36:09.200 matt generu i think matt generu is the catalyst for a number of things i honestly i don't think they

00:36:17.120 understand what they've done you mean the conservatives the liberals the liberals oh no no the liberals

00:36:24.000 the not yeah they do not i think because what happens with the liberal government liberal government

00:36:29.360 thinks everyone wants to be liberal yes you know then their work then their minds everyone should

00:36:34.000 be liberal right liberal by birth exactly so that's kind of the way they think about it but what they

00:36:38.800 failed to realize here is number one you've kind of you've ignited alberta so you you've went into

00:36:46.160 where you shouldn't have and maybe that was on purpose it looks pretty purposeful you went in and

00:36:51.600 you kind of snubbed your nose right away danielle smith came out and she came back at you and she 1.00

00:36:57.040 said you know i'm doing a referendum and i'm going to come back to you and i want these things change

00:37:01.760 and by the way there's a party over here um but i'm not trying to help but i know them and they're

00:37:07.600 looking for a referendum on separation to your earlier point right so that only kind of throws gasoline

00:37:13.600 on a fire that's already burning and so they're doing that the other thing is there's a bunch of

00:37:18.960 canadians looking at this now and to your point about the number of people crossing and saying

00:37:24.480 you know just like i'm thinking i'm not having any genius thoughts when it comes to pierre paulia

00:37:29.520 but where's pierre paulia like we're asking yeah we're now asking yourself like you know he rather

00:37:36.080 than x twitter a couple hockey games you know a workout like yeah how much effort are we really putting

00:37:44.240 into this now are we really putting in a yeoman's is this a real dedicated task or is this a job well

00:37:50.480 what what if let's play let's play the what if conspiratorial sort of game here what if what if

00:37:57.840 while you have and the conservatives let this happen to create a constitutional crisis

00:38:06.080 we all know what happened every time quebec held a referendum

00:38:08.800 and the country came out on mass to stop the province from separating so what if that's what

00:38:15.440 he's looking for what if he let this go to create this constitutional crisis so he can go after the

00:38:21.760 liberals how did they go after so my i'm with you it's not capable of saving the country you know

00:38:28.800 they're gonna they can paint they can paint the liberals as you know not not un canadian but they

00:38:34.640 don't seem to care about people they care about everybody else they've got interest everywhere

00:38:39.040 else except for the general taxpayer and if we lose alberta we're hooped oh yeah no nobody even

00:38:46.960 understands it i mean we know that the cycle of oil and gas goes up and down and that's kind of how it

00:38:50.880 works every four or five uh years or seven or ten years or however it works it comes up it comes down

00:38:56.240 but what if that's what if this is intentional what if we do need a constitutional crisis

00:39:01.920 what if we do what if the country needs to break apart and they're going this this this westminster

00:39:08.320 just democracy isn't working for us anymore maybe it's time to have a major vote and get rid of this

00:39:14.080 and become a republic where we have an elected senate and elected congress and i get to vote for

00:39:18.560 the leader of my country why not revamp the canadian charter of rights and freedoms it's a bit of a joke

00:39:24.800 as far as i'm concerned so why why could that not then be possible that this is all being um manipulated 0.99

00:39:34.880 so that we can really have a bad deal going on in canada for a few years it's an idiot let's 0.99

00:39:43.040 i know it's theoretical completely yeah it's theoretical i get it yeah interesting do i think 1.00

00:39:47.280 they're that strategic uh you know honestly or devious let's go strategic or devious devious yeah

00:39:54.640 maybe they are you know maybe i haven't seen a lot of brilliance i've seen i've seen a great order

00:40:01.840 i've seen someone who likes to get up and give speeches you know like at the convention you know

00:40:06.880 what i saw you know he got up and he does the 15 minute very well you know he's learned the art of

00:40:14.000 the teleprompter yep he's good at it you know he has learned to tell a personal story he's personalized

00:40:20.880 it now you know i think we got those pieces in play have i seen brilliant strategy on the conservative

00:40:27.680 side for years i haven't so you know and unfortunately that's kind of led to them not

00:40:33.680 being competitive or putting the guardrails in place interesting idea it's well you know he's harper

00:40:40.000 is coming out of the woodwork a little bit he's starting to say a few things he hasn't he hasn't

00:40:45.200 sort of said anything negative against poiliev he hasn't said anything negative about the conservatives

00:40:50.560 i don't know who's advising the conservatives from up on high and there have to be a few people that do

00:40:56.960 that i mean former prime ministers were advising trudeau whether it was mulrooney turncoat or whether it

00:41:04.240 was uh uh chretien or whomever they're they're all listening and if let's i don't think stephen harper

00:41:12.400 would do that but he is one of the most strategic prime ministers we've ever seen oh he did something

00:41:17.360 that no other conservative prime minister has ever done i mean he was he was hated but looking back on

00:41:24.080 even though i was anti-harper at the time looking back on it boy do i long for the days of stephen harper

00:41:29.040 oh me both like it's crazy like i just i want him to come back but i don't know that he could do

00:41:34.400 it oh just right just for the quiet government yes yeah i love it thank you i loved it just for

00:41:39.840 just for having someone who didn't speak a lot in the press didn't do all this it was wonderful

00:41:44.400 right still tongue makes for a happy life that's how he did it well right lots of lots to think about

00:41:50.320 i appreciate it man and uh so stay tuned we're good when they when they do sort of get going again

00:41:55.680 after this nine country trip and everything going on we'll we'll get you back in and uh we'll see

00:42:02.000 where matt comes out and how much uh we get from an economic uh standpoint from our new liberal

00:42:09.760 ministry well let's hope so and i hope i don't blow up your text no no you won't you won't yeah yeah

00:42:16.640 i'll spell your name yeah thank you everyone look forward to uh getting your comments as we noted

00:42:24.160 and uh please watch and subscribe and uh we'll see you soon

True Patriot Love - March 01, 2026

Has Canadian Politics Lost Its Guardrails？

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