True Patriot Love - August 17, 2026


Hijackings, Ali & Castro: 46 Years in Media ft. Terry Hart


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00:00:34.920 Here we go again.
00:00:36.360 We're at St. John's, and this is the East Coast Tour continuing.
00:00:40.300 We're at the Jag Hotel, beautiful hotel, and we're lucky enough to have Terry Hart today.
00:00:44.860 Hey, Terry, how are you doing?
00:00:45.800 Good morning. How are you doing?
00:00:46.840 Good, good.
00:00:47.480 Hey, Terry, so, you know, Blair, a good friend of ours,
00:00:50.980 is coming to town, and he said, you know, I've got to meet Terry Hart.
00:00:56.220 And there's a number of reasons.
00:00:57.420 One is about a show you did, which I want to kick off on, which I thought was such a cool story.
00:01:02.860 It was the good news, basically the good news story of the day or good news guy.
00:01:09.080 And you were basically, you've had a media career that spanned 46 years.
00:01:13.300 You spent 25 years in radio with VOCM.
00:01:16.500 Correct.
00:01:17.060 Yeah.
00:01:17.800 Tell us how you came up with this idea or how did this idea start?
00:01:20.540 It happened when I was in Grand Falls, Windsor, which is the central part of our province.
00:01:25.180 And I was a news reporter, but I also did a little chat every morning live about what's going on around the province, around our town, that kind of thing.
00:01:37.420 So there's only a half million people in Newfoundland and Labrador.
00:01:41.100 And I always said to myself, well, if there's something negative that happens, you're going to hear it and they'll probably get three or four minutes to play in the media.
00:01:49.240 And I was saying to myself, well, if somebody starts business with 10 or 15 jobs, they might get 20 seconds, if at all.
00:01:58.420 So I said, well, people want to hear about the good news.
00:02:02.500 The negative news or news that will happen anyway is going to be there, and people are going to hear it.
00:02:09.360 But what I was thinking was that with the good news aspect, people would probably never hear about some of the good things.
00:02:17.440 somebody getting recognition for some award or some business starting up and creating jobs in
00:02:24.460 the local area to you know to employ people so that's where it all started and i had a great
00:02:29.520 response to it from day one yeah yeah i can see why you know that's my part of why we started
00:02:34.520 the podcasting quite frankly is number one i never thought we got enough detailed coverage of events
00:02:42.140 number two i didn't think we highlighted the good things happening enough and so
00:02:45.840 So part of what we do is not only, you know, we have nine pillars, economy, politics, but we also have happiness, right?
00:02:54.900 Very important.
00:02:55.620 That happiness, yeah, exactly, right?
00:02:57.320 If you can't figure out your happiness zone in life, it's hard to have a good life, right?
00:03:01.500 I hear you.
00:03:01.980 Yeah, and so good news for people is super important, especially when they're starting their day.
00:03:06.660 As you know, we're from central Canada, as I was talking about before.
00:03:10.620 you know getting up in the morning and hearing about shootings and robberies and carjackings
00:03:15.740 that's tough right exactly so it's good to hear that things are happening and you know we're
00:03:20.080 constantly growing and so you know I was going through your bio and the thing that popped out
00:03:25.960 you know and I got to ask you about right away because you know I never knew this happened
00:03:29.820 the TWA flight that actually was hijacked in the beginning and that was like in 1976
00:03:36.840 Yeah, it was around that or late 70s, early 80s.
00:03:39.720 Yeah.
00:03:40.280 Long time ago.
00:03:41.120 So how did you, so you were working or you were off?
00:03:44.760 Yeah, well, that happened.
00:03:46.400 I just started two weeks vacation.
00:03:48.820 Okay.
00:03:49.100 It's a Friday, Friday, Friday night around 12 o'clock.
00:03:51.940 I was just home relaxing in Grand Falls, Windsor.
00:03:56.420 And I got a call from Canadian press in Montreal saying that there's been a plane hijack going from New York to Chicago.
00:04:04.920 Right.
00:04:05.020 and it had about 70, 80 passengers or more on it.
00:04:10.760 And they said the plan was it was apparently a bunch of people in Europe
00:04:17.980 that were happy with what was going on in Czechoslovakia
00:04:21.260 and they split up in the country and all that.
00:04:23.400 The Croatian freedom fighters.
00:04:24.240 The Croatians, that's exactly right.
00:04:26.240 And so they said, well, they got this plane.
00:04:28.540 They wanted to get some attention to their cause, and they were flying.
00:04:32.100 And they were going to, took the flight that was going from New York to Chicago and said, nope, we're going to Europe.
00:04:37.560 So apparently they flew to Montreal.
00:04:41.600 And then I got calls and said, we would like you to, you know, you've got to be with your gander.
00:04:44.980 So I, which is about an hour's drive from my home.
00:04:47.660 Yeah.
00:04:47.820 And so I got in the midnight and I got into the VOCM vehicle and with the light, the little yellow light going on top.
00:04:55.160 And I went on and passed a couple of police cars on the way.
00:04:58.120 If I'm illegal, I should have been ticketed.
00:05:00.480 Anyway, they were going to the same place, I'm sure, and so we got in Gander, waiting
00:05:05.800 around three or four hours, so the plane eventually landed at Gander International Airport, and
00:05:12.240 it was on the tarmac, and these guys were supposed to be loaded down with explosives and arms
00:05:18.140 and assault weapons and that kind of thing, and so anyway, we were there on the ground
00:05:24.480 for about an hour
00:05:25.980 and he eventually asked
00:05:30.160 the RCMP
00:05:31.040 they wanted to speak
00:05:32.460 to a news reporter
00:05:33.320 I was the only one
00:05:34.480 there at the time
00:05:35.180 and so they had a guy
00:05:37.580 Inspector Bond
00:05:38.360 who was coming from
00:05:39.120 Ottawa for the crisis
00:05:40.460 or the situation
00:05:42.660 and they said
00:05:44.040 we'd like for you
00:05:44.460 to go and talk to him
00:05:45.280 I said I'm not going
00:05:46.340 to go there
00:05:46.700 you know
00:05:47.660 that third guy
00:05:48.400 likes guns
00:05:49.060 and everything else
00:05:49.820 and ammunition
00:05:50.560 I'm not going
00:05:51.480 and the guy said
00:05:52.600 that's crazy
00:05:53.000 so anyway
00:05:53.800 They came back about 10 minutes later and said, well, yeah, okay.
00:05:57.020 Well, I'm going to let you go because they want to speak to media.
00:06:00.580 I said, okay.
00:06:02.560 You know, apprehensive, of course.
00:06:04.720 And so I was going to go get ready to get in the police car in Gander Airport
00:06:08.140 and to drive down to the end of the runway where the plane was at.
00:06:12.720 And they got a call just before I got into the vehicle.
00:06:15.100 They said, no, it was all off.
00:06:16.340 We're leaving.
00:06:17.320 So the plane eventually left Gander, went to Iceland, went to London,
00:06:21.800 went to Paris and landed.
00:06:23.800 And the police in Paris came up, shot the cars from under the plane, and they all surrendered.
00:06:31.400 That was the end of it.
00:06:32.460 Wow.
00:06:32.820 That was quite a story.
00:06:33.840 It went out for a nice while.
00:06:35.500 Yeah, yeah, and pretty dangerous, too.
00:06:37.340 So apparently in New York, one of the officers was killed trying to decommission the bomb.
00:06:43.260 They detonated and, quite frankly, injured one of them and killed the other.
00:06:48.640 But no one knew if they actually had an explosive on the planes, right?
00:06:52.240 Yeah, yeah.
00:06:52.660 Or on the plane.
00:06:53.440 Yeah.
00:06:53.800 Yeah. Wow, crazy stuff. Yeah, it was interesting stuff and I interviewed a lot of the passengers
00:06:57.240 after that. They let off in Gander. I think they let off around 30. Yeah, that's what I was going to ask.
00:07:02.200 Yeah, so I interviewed some of them. They were naturally frightened to death, so to speak.
00:07:08.760 But, you know, luckily it ended up with any further incidents or deaths or anything.
00:07:13.240 I wonder if they ever flew again. I don't know. Yeah, it's interesting. I was thinking about that
00:07:17.800 when I was reading the story on the way and I'm thinking, I don't know if I'd fly again if I was
00:07:21.560 hijacked, right? Oh yeah, I know. I'm a tough flyer. Pretty crazy, right? Yeah, I'm not a good
00:07:25.320 flyer to begin with. Yeah, yeah. But Gander International Airport, of course, the fly
00:07:30.120 started to, because it built up when the, before the Second World War, it started building because
00:07:35.640 he recognized there would be a need for some stopovers between Europe and Gander, and Gander
00:07:40.200 would be the first landing point. Yeah. And so after that, a lot of international stories
00:07:45.960 happened in Gander, you know, like the Arrow era crash with all the 256 Americans and crew
00:07:52.260 that were killed going from Virginia home to the United States, I think down around Washington
00:07:57.740 and in Kentucky, actually.
00:08:01.300 And, you know, I was there that morning broadcasting a lot of reports on that incident.
00:08:07.240 And, you know, I met Muhammad Ali there and interviewed him, Cassius Clay, in his early days.
00:08:12.280 Oh, you did?
00:08:12.920 Yeah.
00:08:13.480 Really?
00:08:13.820 Yeah.
00:08:14.020 He was going from Moscow to New York, over there visiting Moscow, and he had a landing
00:08:20.960 gander for a refueling stop, and he gave my contacts in the airport, let me know, so
00:08:25.460 I drove to the airport, lucky enough to get an interview with him, and he put on quite
00:08:29.740 a show for the locals there, he was there joking around.
00:08:33.340 What did you think?
00:08:34.340 I'm so amazed, I've never met anyone who knew, met Muhammad Ali.
00:08:38.780 Yeah, well he put on a good show because he was so friendly with all the people there,
00:08:42.420 waiting that hour, hour and a half for the plane to be refueled or those.
00:08:46.520 And there was a guy there who was one of the maintenance people,
00:08:50.120 cleaning the floors and that kind of stuff.
00:08:51.880 And he went over and shadow boxed with them and, you know,
00:08:54.420 and put on a good laugh for the people.
00:08:56.020 So he was very good.
00:08:57.440 And a good interview, too.
00:08:59.120 Oh, really?
00:08:59.920 Yeah, and what a life, right?
00:09:01.240 Yeah, and like I said, I did an interview with Fidel Castro
00:09:05.280 three times over the years, and he's in front of the rock.
00:09:08.140 Yeah, in Gander.
00:09:09.260 Oh, really?
00:09:09.700 Yeah, because they were, again, refueling stops from Cubana, Havana, to United Nations.
00:09:16.620 Of course, they weren't allowed in the States anyway, but the United Nations is a sacred ground, so to speak.
00:09:21.120 So I interviewed him three times.
00:09:25.300 Thoughts on, you know, when you interviewed him?
00:09:28.740 Big, imposing guy, but he was very good.
00:09:31.760 But when I interviewed him, he could speak English, but he always spoke through the interpreter when I was doing the interview.
00:09:37.320 I guess he gave him time to think about the questions or whatever.
00:09:40.440 Yeah, yeah.
00:09:40.900 But he was a very good, a light side of the story that the last time I interviewed him,
00:09:46.060 he gave me a box of some of the other people here that were locals.
00:09:50.400 He's Monte Crisco Cigars.
00:09:52.100 Oh, okay.
00:09:52.680 So I didn't smoke.
00:09:54.060 Never did, luckily.
00:09:55.640 And so I just took him, threw him up in the shell.
00:09:59.140 I never thought it would go in my head about preserving him,
00:10:02.720 wrapping him in cellophane or whatever, you know, to preserve them.
00:10:06.100 And he dropped him and fell apart, and I was saying, what a keepsake, right?
00:10:09.080 Yeah, yeah. 0.92
00:10:09.580 From Castro.
00:10:10.240 Oh, that's really cool.
00:10:11.340 Well, the Trudeaus loved him, right?
00:10:12.720 They liked him quite a bit.
00:10:13.900 They had quite a relationship.
00:10:14.780 And Joey Smallwood, the first primary in Newfoundland, Labrador.
00:10:19.100 Him and Jeff Sterling, a medium mogul from NTV, they were there, and they went to Cuba
00:10:27.400 trying to get an interview.
00:10:28.360 They never did, but they were back and forth trying to get some interviews with him.
00:10:32.740 Yeah, yeah.
00:10:33.680 That was quite exciting.
00:10:34.580 I don't know if you're watching now.
00:10:36.940 It's so sad to watch what's happening to Cuba.
00:10:39.440 Oh, my goodness.
00:10:40.820 It's hard to believe, right?
00:10:41.960 It is hard to believe, you know, with the lack of electricity and power.
00:10:46.400 Yeah, they're being cut off and so sad.
00:10:48.920 It is so sad.
00:10:50.020 It's a humanitarian crisis that we don't realize.
00:10:52.340 Absolutely.
00:10:53.020 So I hope that gets resolved soon in some shape or form.
00:10:57.860 Me as well, and a lot of people.
00:10:59.440 Yeah, it's a change.
00:11:00.440 So, Terry, you know, Hall of Fame inductions.
00:11:04.580 you had quite a few baseball here you've had been the hockey hall of fame the baseball hall of fame
00:11:10.180 uh you had the king charles the third coronation medal so you know just some great a great career
00:11:16.900 right yeah i had a lot of fun i was fortunate a good timing and all that kind of stuff but it was
00:11:22.100 great and you know it started off i always loved baseball still followed the blue jays all the time
00:11:27.380 What about the Red Sox? I'm a big Red Sox fan as well. They're on my team here, but they've got to call them the Canadian hoopla the last number of years when they were doing okay. And last year, of course, I went to the World Series.
00:11:41.380 Oh, did you? Saw the last two games. Oh, that was great. But I love baseball. I served on the provincial baseball executive here for a lot of years. And in my hometown of Grand Falls, Windsor, I was on the executive there for 20 plus years.
00:11:56.540 because I like to give back a bit.
00:11:59.180 And also, the same with the hockey, I broadcast senior hockey
00:12:04.680 and all kinds of levels of hockey over the years.
00:12:07.220 But I used to go from St. John's to Port-A-Bas
00:12:10.620 and all the different rinks and broadcasting the games
00:12:14.160 for the Grand Falls Cataracts, if you recall.
00:12:16.880 And that was great.
00:12:18.040 I went to Allen Cup up in Thunder Bay,
00:12:20.740 broadcasting the Canadian Allen Cup Finals back home.
00:12:24.180 So I was always around hockey,
00:12:25.620 and my kids played hockey and involved in hockey and that kind of thing.
00:12:29.000 So that was good.
00:12:29.580 And same with baseball.
00:12:30.440 So I was lucky enough to be recognized and inducted and honored
00:12:35.300 to be a part of the baseball and the hockey,
00:12:38.000 Newfoundland-Lavador Baseball and Hockey Hall of Fame.
00:12:41.300 Quite an honor.
00:12:42.400 Yeah, very much an honor.
00:12:44.500 So, you know, that's the other thing I found interesting.
00:12:48.040 You saw the, I guess, you know, and hockey's taken different forms here, right?
00:12:52.640 So I know there's, you know, the Leafs have been here.
00:12:55.480 Winnipeg's been, you know, different franchises have been into the city.
00:13:01.360 What's happening now, and where do you think it's going?
00:13:03.760 Because, you know, it's interesting.
00:13:04.820 You know, I'm sure I was talking to Blair, our good friend,
00:13:07.600 before last night when we got in.
00:13:09.440 I said, Blair, what's going on with hockey here now?
00:13:11.480 Well, they're part of the Quebec Maritime Junior A Hockey League,
00:13:16.480 and that's, what, 20-odd, 30 teams.
00:13:19.780 I'm not quite sure of the exact number.
00:13:22.020 So, the Newfoundland Regiment is the team that plays next door here.
00:13:25.680 Okay.
00:13:26.020 About a five-minute walk.
00:13:27.160 Yeah.
00:13:27.580 And so, last year was their first season.
00:13:30.020 They're back again this year.
00:13:31.060 I think they had the second or third highest attendance last year for fans.
00:13:37.940 I think they had the highest sales for merchandise.
00:13:41.480 I think they had the highest sales for 50-50 draw.
00:13:45.320 So, that's important for the locals, for the fans to get a chance to win some cash.
00:13:49.940 Well done.
00:13:50.300 Yeah, but they had a great year last year, and I think it was only going to grow.
00:13:55.680 Yeah.
00:13:56.020 Because, you know, there was a lot of politics and everything, but hockey is the same thing.
00:14:01.380 You know, you had the Maple Leafs for all those years, and they wanted to get closer to home.
00:14:05.100 They had Winnipeg, which was a fair hike, bringing their players back and forth from St. John's.
00:14:09.280 But this Junior A thing, I think it will work.
00:14:12.680 It will work.
00:14:13.360 Yeah.
00:14:13.760 Well, and the market and the interest is here, so I think that's what the key is.
00:14:17.880 And you've got some great people like Glenn Stanford and his team running the team and that kind of stuff.
00:14:23.380 And Glenn is recognized across North America in professional hockey circles as one of the top executives in the country and the U.S.
00:14:33.680 Oh, good, good.
00:14:34.800 You know, hockey is always, you know, the hockey ownership sometimes is, I always call it, it's kind of a free-for-all.
00:14:41.040 You know, and whether it's in the NHL or whether it's in junior hockey, you get some real characters to actually end up owning some of the teams, right?
00:14:48.560 Oh, yeah.
00:14:49.120 You know, I was, I've been lucky enough to, when I was building a property up in Ottawa, I was lucky enough to meet Eugene Melnick.
00:14:58.020 Oh, yeah.
00:14:58.460 Right?
00:14:58.820 You know, and I spent some time with him.
00:15:00.880 He had a great run at it.
00:15:02.520 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:15:03.740 And, you know, but character, right?
00:15:05.620 Yes.
00:15:06.020 You know, and my day I grew up with, in Toronto, I grew up with Harold Ballard.
00:15:10.360 Oh, wow.
00:15:10.940 You know, and Harold Ballard and Dickie Duff was one of my coaches as a young kid.
00:15:17.100 I liked the Dickie Duff when he played for Montreal and not so much when he played for Toronto, being a half fan.
00:15:22.660 But they were great, great, great characters and good for the game.
00:15:26.420 Yeah, they were good for the game.
00:15:27.400 But I think, you know, the fact that they were characters kind of made the game better.
00:15:31.980 You know, because people, you know, we used to go to the gardens and watch them, you know, and they themselves were a show, right?
00:15:38.280 And, you know, so, you know, here you have the team now.
00:15:44.820 Do you see it actually growing?
00:15:46.640 Do you see the growth of it now?
00:15:48.180 Because, you know, the province is growing, right?
00:15:50.760 The province is on the uptick right now.
00:15:52.300 I think right now, economic-wise, I think the next 20, 50, now to the next 50 years is going to be very exciting.
00:16:02.860 Like, you've got the Baden-Ord oil project.
00:16:06.920 Yeah.
00:16:07.100 Hopefully it will start in the next year or so and then they're doing the work from now.
00:16:11.500 That's going to be many billions of dollars for the companies, but also for the province,
00:16:16.220 the federal government, the Newfoundland and Labrador government and so on. So that's going
00:16:20.380 to be a big project, creating many hundreds of jobs and lots of spin-off, probably two or three
00:16:25.900 times more. And on Monday, tomorrow, I understand they're going to make the official announcement
00:16:33.340 that Quebec, Newfoundland, Labrador
00:16:35.520 has reached an agreement
00:16:36.480 to develop the hydro facilities
00:16:40.460 and the properties in Labrador.
00:16:43.660 And I hear the Prime Minister
00:16:45.720 will be here for that as well tomorrow.
00:16:47.580 Oh, good.
00:16:47.960 So, you know, that's a big,
00:16:49.520 yeah, that's going to create,
00:16:50.720 again, many billions of dollars.
00:16:52.640 It's going to help
00:16:53.280 further develop electricity.
00:16:55.580 It's going to help money companies
00:16:56.840 grow in Labrador and other parts.
00:16:59.640 A lot of spin-off.
00:17:00.860 Yeah.
00:17:01.100 So the prospects,
00:17:02.840 and there's a lot of things happening in Monning, the tech industry.
00:17:06.660 Tourism this summer is bonkers, really strong growth.
00:17:10.440 A lot of people are all around the world coming here to see whales and icebergs and everything else.
00:17:15.020 Yeah, you've got to see it, right?
00:17:17.220 I always say that to Blair when I come.
00:17:18.820 I'm always amazed.
00:17:19.920 You know, one of the things, the access was tougher this time.
00:17:23.360 I noticed because it's busier now, you've got to book your flight earlier.
00:17:27.140 You're not going to get over on the boat.
00:17:29.580 So getting over on the boat is a real challenge.
00:17:31.240 You've got to really schedule.
00:17:32.400 That's something that's got to be dealt with because there's so many thousands of people wanting to come here this year to see our province, but they can't get back and forth.
00:17:40.240 Yeah, yeah.
00:17:40.620 That's crazy.
00:17:41.720 So, Shara and I tried to get our car over.
00:17:44.160 We tried two months ago.
00:17:46.420 We called and called and tried to find a booking.
00:17:48.860 We couldn't get over on the boat to get our car over.
00:17:51.460 So, we ended up flying into here, and then we fly back to Halifax to pick up our car because we left our car in Halifax our last trip after we actually.
00:18:02.400 came so yeah and a good sign of things happening in province and right here in
00:18:06.660 St. John's this hotel the Jag so my John Steele yeah one of the most prominent
00:18:12.420 business people in Atlantic Canada and still I've been very successful in the
00:18:16.200 whole Steele family and been very successful and you know there's not too
00:18:20.640 many hotels anywhere in Canada or in many other parts of the world you can pair
00:18:25.980 with this you know it's really something so yeah so he is a real credit to all the
00:18:30.180 A lot of the growth taking place in Newfoundland and Labrador.
00:18:33.040 You know, we came in last night, so we arrived,
00:18:35.400 and there was a band playing on the stage in the bar as we walked in.
00:18:39.080 I said to Sean, my son, I said, you know, wow.
00:18:42.160 I said, that's pretty cool.
00:18:43.240 Like, you know, and the artists were good.
00:18:45.120 Like, the music is good.
00:18:46.460 For people who like the music scene in Canada,
00:18:49.040 you've got to come here because every night in one of the bars downtown,
00:18:52.460 you know, anywhere downtown towards the water,
00:18:56.400 you're going to find an artist playing somewhere or something, right?
00:18:59.100 And you just had four major concerts here with the Dixie Chicks and three other major performers did four different nights and they were sold out every night.
00:19:11.360 Probably close to 80,000 people in the four nights went to the concert.
00:19:15.780 Wow.
00:19:16.480 Wow.
00:19:17.060 That's pretty good.
00:19:17.960 Yeah, yeah.
00:19:18.580 No, it's, you know, you can feel the change.
00:19:20.620 I can feel the buzz because I've been coming probably about 18 years.
00:19:25.940 I've been coming here, you know, off and on every year.
00:19:28.300 Yeah.
00:19:29.100 you know and I met you like I mentioned Blair in the middle but you know I can
00:19:33.240 feel the change in the buzz and the development you can see it kind of
00:19:36.420 happening which is great yeah and Blair is part of our the Mount Pearls and
00:19:40.840 Newfoundland's sports culture he played a lot of baseball still playing he was
00:19:45.300 playing I went down to the ballpark Friday night to have a look and Blair was
00:19:49.080 over and with the Mount Pearl team and still playing good hockey player and he's
00:19:53.280 staying there oh yeah a great guy yeah baseball so tell me a little about what's
00:19:57.300 going on with baseball you know and and you know what not only what's going on baseball why was it
00:20:02.420 so important for you when you were doing your reporting to actually report on the local you
00:20:07.500 know because we have we have a and i call it a small digital um media piece right so we do and
00:20:15.240 it's a tpl local and it's it's like it's it's a small newspaper um you know it goes across the
00:20:21.900 country but uh we were just talking about the other day we need to actually branch out by
00:20:27.480 different area and start to highlight local sports again because that's a missed thing right it was
00:20:32.840 something we grew up with probably in our era but yeah and it's and it's dying of it right yeah
00:20:37.600 which is sad yeah but you know for uh a lot of the communities the smaller communities
00:20:44.400 when somebody graduates high school a lot of cases they got to leave they got to go to st
00:20:51.420 Johns or Halifax to get their education
00:20:53.440 and come in here to go to
00:20:55.440 Memorial University, which is a great
00:20:57.480 university. But they all got to leave their
00:20:59.440 towns and therefore
00:21:00.400 they're depleted in their talent.
00:21:03.480 The guys that play baseball
00:21:05.360 or hockey or soccer all the way
00:21:07.420 up through softball, they got to move
00:21:09.520 on. And it's hard for these other
00:21:11.340 smaller centers to find the
00:21:13.360 bodies to keep their leagues going in.
00:21:15.140 Yeah, yeah. Well, as the population
00:21:17.240 is aging, right? But in Newfoundland
00:21:19.040 the community is very important.
00:21:21.420 And that's why I started the Good News Report and talked about communities
00:21:27.040 and the positive things going on in these towns and cities and that kind of thing.
00:21:31.920 Well, and sports are the hub, right?
00:21:33.820 So that's where the communities meet around their kids, their children,
00:21:37.680 and then from there they grow.
00:21:39.240 And it's funny, I love that, the fact that you mentioned Blair. 0.98
00:21:44.260 You remember that he was a good ass. 0.87
00:21:45.820 So when you meet him down the road, that's what community is all about, right? 0.99
00:21:49.440 My mom, I think, was telling a story the other night at dinner to some friends.
00:21:54.720 She passed away years ago, and I went into her scrapbook,
00:21:57.340 and all my newspaper clippings from football are in her scrapbook.
00:22:02.160 And I never realized she was clipping them.
00:22:03.780 My mom did the same thing for me.
00:22:05.060 I didn't know it, right?
00:22:06.220 It's quite a memory, right?
00:22:07.360 It just tears in my eye when I saw it, right?
00:22:10.120 For sure.
00:22:10.680 I never realized she sort of tracked it that closely, right?
00:22:13.760 Yeah.
00:22:14.060 Yeah, it's a wonderful thing.
00:22:15.260 It's good.
00:22:15.880 Yeah.
00:22:16.280 Terry, man, thanks for taking the time.
00:22:18.060 Oh, it was my pleasure.
00:22:18.900 and I hope you enjoy your stay here and your wife and your son in the city. It's a great
00:22:23.300 city. It's a great province and it's good to see so many many more people from all around the world.
00:22:29.620 They're here from Australia, New Zealand, all over Europe. This year just to see the whales
00:22:36.100 and the icebergs and just the local culture as well. Yeah, we went out and saw the whales.
00:22:42.340 Yeah, we did. So we loved it and we saw one. Oh, you're great.
00:22:45.540 Yeah, this was a big, you were saying July month, or June in peak season?
00:22:51.300 Yeah.
00:22:51.580 So you're lucky you got to see one.
00:22:53.040 That's good.
00:22:53.820 Thanks, Terry.
00:22:54.620 All right, my pleasure.