True Patriot Love - How Canada’s 2025 Budget Really Passed

00:00:00.000 Today on True Patriot Love, Under the Pillar Politics, we're going to take a look at last

00:00:04.720 night's vote that passed the 2025 budget. We spent several shows and we talked about

00:00:10.680 all the concerns in this budget. Three shows which analyzed the expenditures, the massive

00:00:17.060 deficits, the capital expenditures, and the financing requirements of the federal government.

00:00:22.860 But, none of that was a concern. Christmas was coming, looming, no one wanted an election,

00:00:30.000 no one wanted to be out in the snow campaigning, and four abstentions, two by the Conservatives

00:00:35.980 and two by the NDP, one person crossing the floor, and a flip by the Green Party, and voila,

00:00:42.300 the budget is passed. So stay tuned, enjoy the show, and whatever you do, don't become

00:00:47.840 part of the 4A Club.

00:00:52.860 Today on True Patriot Love, Under the Pillar Politics, I have Mike Wixom with me, and

00:01:06.940 we're going to talk about last night's vote, the confidence vote that actually passed the

00:01:12.820 budget. So Mike, it passed.

00:01:15.520 Unreal. What a circus.

00:01:19.040 It was. Kabuki theater, as I call it. It was fun to watch.

00:01:22.860 Yeah.

00:01:23.360 Because, you know, they were coming in and out, they were running, you know, they made

00:01:27.040 it sound, they took the vote to 6.45, right?

00:01:30.360 Oh man, right up against the news.

00:01:31.860 To suspense. So we all went home, we ate dinner, we got to the TV, and we watched them all stand

00:01:36.540 up and sit down. We had to...

00:01:38.380 What an interesting process. Now, if you're like me, you're not exactly addicted to CPAC.

00:01:44.780 No.

00:01:45.420 It is like watching paint drive. But yesterday was interesting. You raise a good point.

00:01:49.580 It was very theatrical. Yes.

00:01:53.080 You know, they're killing time in there with their backbenchers out there giving their campaigns

00:01:57.760 from what sounds like they're campaigning for next election. And like you say, it went right

00:02:02.760 up to the wire. However, the process of voting... I've been in the studio when an MP has had to

00:02:09.760 vote. I've been in Ottawa when they do the vote. But watching the technology up against the in-house

00:02:17.760 group voting. Oh yeah.

00:02:19.760 What a silly process, man. 0.97

00:02:21.260 And I'm not sure who piped up at one point from the Conservative Party from the far north. 0.97

00:02:26.760 But they had an agenda. And the question was, did you have a technical problem? I just want

00:02:32.700 to know if in the budget and then you hear, boo, the whole place went nuts. And I thought,

00:02:38.080 this is kind of fun actually. Oh yeah, yeah. Andrew Scheer, you know, getting up at the end

00:02:42.280 with the other bearded dude saying, you know, I had technical difficulties. And it was really

00:02:47.820 kind of, like I said, kabuki theater. And, you know, they probably knew it was 170 to 168 budget

00:02:54.460 passed. And they probably knew three hours before, you know, it reminds me of those old union votes

00:02:59.800 when I was a kid. They used to do where, you know, they would know that they were going back

00:03:05.280 to work, but they would actually sit everyone out for two days and come back to you. Brothers

00:03:09.860 and sisters, we have gotten for you. So one of those. But, you know, for those of you, you

00:03:16.320 know, just the vote counts or the number of seats in Parliament, you know, in the House

00:03:20.400 right now. So, you know, 343 seats. They had to get, you know, majority passed, you know,

00:03:29.280 for the vote. 170 liberals, 143 conservatives, 22 block, 7 NDP and one green. Right. So

00:03:37.660 that's what they were up against. And of course, you know, at the end of the day, we had what

00:03:44.260 I call is the 4A club. Right. So what does the A stand for? Just. Well, I think everyone

00:03:51.160 knows what the A stands for. Oh, I thought it was abstention. Yeah. Okay. We can call it

00:03:55.540 abstention. Okay. Okay. I don't think so, though. But yeah, two conservatives and two

00:04:00.760 NDP. Can we actually give them a star ratings, like a star ratings, like Mac gets three A's,

00:04:08.580 you know, like. Oh, I think they all get three A's. But, you know, it's funny because I always

00:04:12.980 like to and you can, you know, you'll see on the screen, we're going to throw who they

00:04:16.500 are up there because I think, you know, honorable mention to these guys because they took the

00:04:20.780 hit for the day. Yeah. Um, and it was interesting to watch abstentions actually drive me crazy,

00:04:27.240 by the way, the process of it. I think it's, it's to me, it's totally undemocratic, quite

00:04:34.060 frankly. It's like walking across the floor. I find it the same thing. Like the undemocratic

00:04:38.420 party of Canada, uh, uh, never voting in parliament. Yes. Yeah, exactly. So, you know, why, why would

00:04:44.880 you want to get elected to represent your riding, your area, your electoral, and then go to Ottawa

00:04:53.720 and decide not to try to make any change or vote in anything? And, you know, as you and I talked

00:05:00.840 about the NDP, the NDP are at this kind of weird point. And it, this is the way that parliamentary

00:05:06.140 politics sometimes drives you crazy because quite frankly, you know, we went through, we went through

00:05:10.800 the vote count, how many seats each of the parties have. So now every time there's a close vote,

00:05:16.480 it comes down to block NDP or green, right? Because it's so close between the liberals and

00:05:23.580 the conservatives. Why do we let these two parties that are just, no, no, hold on a second. I don't

00:05:29.420 want to, I don't want to get myself in trouble here. Well, I actually don't care. Why do we let these

00:05:32.920 two non-parties have such pivotal moments in parliament that changed the course potentially of history

00:05:40.260 for Canada? They've got one seat or seven seats, but they can make a difference is outrageous to me.

00:05:48.040 Well, and the 4A made a difference, right? You know, and the, you know, the, the, the temporary or

00:05:54.000 interim leader of the NDP, he got up last night and he said, you know, we voted against the budget.

00:05:59.880 Well, no, you didn't. You abstained two seats. So quite frankly, you passed the budget. And then he argued

00:06:05.820 that they didn't. And then it was interesting. So his two members got up and gave their explanation,

00:06:12.020 which we're going to talk about in a minute. But, you know, to me, this is, you know, without a leader,

00:06:17.200 without money, you know, people are saying that's why they didn't want an election. Well, come on.

00:06:22.100 They probably everyone in the parliament, everyone in the house yesterday didn't want an election

00:06:27.780 because they didn't want to disturb their Christmas. The brilliance, this is the crazy part of this

00:06:33.740 is that probably the brilliance of the strategy of the liberals was to delay the budget as close as

00:06:41.820 you could to Christmas. So when you put the budget out, it would get voted no matter what,

00:06:47.320 because none of them want to stay in Ottawa for Christmas and none of them want to go back and

00:06:51.660 campaign during Christmas. So quite frankly, the brilliance of this is you actually produce the

00:06:57.900 budget nine months late. You produced it right before Christmas time.

00:07:02.040 Knowing the candidates wouldn't want to go outdoors to canvass people.

00:07:05.540 No, I honestly, I think if I think if these four people had showed up and voted against the budget,

00:07:14.080 someone else from the block or the conservatives would have stood up and killed it.

00:07:20.480 No, I'm going to Naples, Florida. Hey, I've already booked my vacation. We're not doing this.

00:07:25.960 Well, we have one conservative who's missing in action.

00:07:28.260 Yeah, that was to abstain because she, she, she had dental surgery. Now we're going to talk about

00:07:34.200 that in a minute, but I remember in politics, you know, when we read the, in our history books,

00:07:38.240 when we were kids about politics, there were politicians who used to come to the legislature

00:07:42.900 with wood teeth. Right. And now because we had dental surgery, we can't vote from home. 0.98

00:07:48.880 Well, I mean, emergency dental surgery, I guess I could understand, but anything that you really

00:07:57.400 need to do leading up to the budget maybe should be rescheduled, uh, up to that vote. So that one

00:08:03.540 felt that one actually just felt lazy to me. I hate to say it or really well-planned.

00:08:08.820 Yeah. I think it was well-planned, but, but let's get, let's jump in. Cause I want to go through this.

00:08:13.520 So tell me who these people are the four A's and let's find out. Right. So first one, Matt

00:08:19.280 Jenneru. So this was the member, this was the one where he was going to walk across and then I guess

00:08:24.560 he went into the fetal position. Um, and you show on the screen. I love it because he, we haven't

00:08:29.440 thrown up the peace sign, right? Yeah. Peace out. So 44 year old guy. Right. Uh, you know, he probably

00:08:39.520 didn't like what was going on. He does look like a squeaky clean youth pastor. He does look like a,

00:08:44.440 uh, a legitimate, uh, West coast conservative Edmonton, Edmonton river bend, right? That's

00:08:50.500 where he's from. And it was a guy who actually in the last election, uh, narrowly got in, right?

00:08:55.180 He got in by 3000 votes, uh, over the liberal. He eat it out. But the interesting thing when they

00:09:01.240 readjusted the riding boundaries, he's been in ever since 2012. So he's been riding the train a long

00:09:07.160 time. So he's not, I thought he was a new guy, quite frankly, he's not. So, um, you know, he had

00:09:14.420 a very active, uh, uh, riding area at 75% of the people turned out a lot of turnout. Basically there's

00:09:22.260 85,000 in his area. And, uh, so he got, you know, barely made it on this last round. He started out

00:09:28.420 when he started back in 2012, he was crushing the election. So he went from like 50% in the lead

00:09:34.640 every year that he actually, every election, 2021, it was closer. And now 2025, really close.

00:09:41.840 So this, this last election was really close. Uh, 3000 votes roughly made the difference here,

00:09:47.620 right? Yeah. So he, he got like, you can see the opposition, the liberals gaining on him.

00:09:52.440 Starting to push against him. So, you know, I guess he had reservations. Then I guess at the last

00:09:57.440 minute when he went to walk across, he went, oops, I can't do that. And then went into the fetal

00:10:02.960 position and abstained, right? So we, we just disappeared. And the funny thing about this,

00:10:07.600 I would love the camera to pan to him and he's just. Yeah. What, what do you do? Let's think

00:10:13.780 about it. You live in Edmonton, right? Yeah. So think about his circumstance. You're living

00:10:17.540 in Edmonton. It's a tough, in a tough, that whole town is an eruption. You walk across the floor

00:10:21.420 in Edmonton. Yeah. Yeah. You gotta be, you can't go home. You gotta move. Yeah. Right.

00:10:25.000 Cause that's not safe. In fact, many of these, many of the betrayals that happened over this

00:10:30.520 budget. Yeah. I think we'll make it tough for these people to go back to their writings.

00:10:34.040 Oh yeah. We're going to talk about Chris at the end, right? Like he's getting booed in church.

00:10:37.880 Yeah. So, you know, that's, that's sort of the results you have to deal with.

00:10:41.720 That doesn't even happen in Philadelphia, man.

00:10:44.760 Oh, I'm sure it does. Okay. Probably sure it does. Okay. Shannon Stubbs, right? So another interesting

00:10:49.960 one. So Shannon, uh, this is the one that had the jaw surgery or the dental surgery that we heard

00:10:55.320 about. Uh, so she actually has been around for a while, um, disappeared on this one, but quite

00:11:02.360 frankly, uh, Lakehead or Lake Lakeland, sorry, is where she's from. And, uh, the interesting thing,

00:11:09.960 which I'm going to go back to these two conservatives, the two conservatives, when I looked into them,

00:11:15.160 are career politicians. So these aren't people that have worked before, you know, then when you

00:11:21.160 look at their resume, you don't find anything on their resume with perspective, entrepreneurial,

00:11:26.280 never had a, like a job, maybe a high school job, but they never came out of, you know, any like this

00:11:32.280 lady, quite frankly, she worked in Preston Manning's office. Yeah. I saw that. Yeah. Which is kind of odd

00:11:38.200 that she did this, right? It's really kind of weird that she would have kind of turncoded and abstained

00:11:43.880 from the vote. Right. She's been in two, she was in two offices previously employed. So this,

00:11:49.640 this one actually leads me to think, okay, if there was a strategy and you were told, okay,

00:11:56.040 you're going to do it this way. She would probably go along with it because she's done the game a long

00:12:01.640 time. Yeah. So if this is a game, she was probably an active player. Yeah. And in last election, 0.99

00:12:07.480 quite frankly, so I had, I just was able to pull up the 21. Uh, she did very well. I think it

00:12:12.520 was closer in 25. Um, I'll find the stats for you and I'll throw that up, but you know, she was,

00:12:18.840 uh, 70% of the vote. She did in 21, 25, I got a fine, but, um, and then, okay, so this is my, uh,

00:12:27.160 uh, so Lori Eidelout. Yep. Right. This is an interest on a Nunavik and, uh, she is a environmental,

00:12:36.520 I think she's a lawyer by trade. So she had her own law firm and she, uh, was against some iron 1.00

00:12:43.000 ore mining expansion. So she protested it. That's how we kind of all, I think it was her firm that

00:12:47.880 actually backed up the, the, uh, the, uh, the anti-claim. Yeah. Yeah. So this is, this is an

00:12:53.000 issue. And so she got up right away. So when, when the NDP, after the vote and everything, she got up

00:12:57.720 and she said, she was very, uh, I liked this lady cause she was very honest. Yeah. And I love that

00:13:03.960 about her. Quite frankly, she just said, I just did this for my own wellbeing. Didn't think about

00:13:09.640 Canada. Didn't think about anything. I'm from a small area, right? 21,000 people, right? Only 7,000

00:13:17.000 vote every year. You know, one of us wins quite frankly, she won by 41 votes in 2025. Yeah. Yeah.

00:13:24.040 Over, which was a big landslide up there. It was a big landslide. 2,000 people voted.

00:13:29.240 So she got up and she said, here it is. Right. The big thing is I want a university.

00:13:35.960 I want 50 million and Carney gave it to her and she put it on the news. She didn't even,

00:13:43.000 she didn't even resist the fact to talk about it. So I asked for 50 million to get my vote and I got it.

00:13:50.200 Yeah. No, that doesn't sound very legal, but I'm just saying that it happened.

00:13:56.440 So you hit the point I wanted to make. I don't know that she should have said that.

00:14:03.560 No, I don't think so. I think that it, we were happy with it just happening probably,

00:14:09.240 but then again, uh, it really, okay. So now the truth is we don't need a university

00:14:15.640 in, in Minerva. My apologies to, to anybody there. I'm just guessing that once it's built,

00:14:22.840 it will sit there and, uh, it'll idle out. I don't know. There you go. So yeah. How do you

00:14:29.160 take care of it? Right? I don't know. Yeah. Well, you just, you need to then get subsidies for

00:14:33.080 operating costs. You know, they've got a long way to go to build a football program or rugby or lacrosse,

00:14:39.560 but I don't know what the purpose serves, but like you said, she was pretty honest about it.

00:14:44.920 She was, she got it right. And then, you know, bless her heart. She just stood up there and she

00:14:50.120 went in the newspaper and, and all of a sudden, so, which is, you know, Hey, you know, that,

00:14:54.680 that was her rationale. You know, she did leave it open because she said, okay. And none of it

00:14:59.880 in the Northwest territory someplace. Yes. So wherever you think, but we need a university. Yeah. Okay.

00:15:05.000 Okay. All right. Next one. The, so my, by the way, that's how you get tenure at a university.

00:15:10.520 Yeah. You start it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. You're the, you're the head dean. So, uh, Gordon,

00:15:18.200 uh, so Gordon John. So he got up and he, he actually spoke after too. And, uh, uh, Courtney,

00:15:25.000 right. And the West coast. So, and, uh, he's a gentleman that again, just won two NDP that just

00:15:30.840 squeaked by now. It's interesting to see, I'm not sure, uh, if, uh, if, uh,

00:15:38.840 Lori's going to have the same issue as an NDP, but Gordon probably going to have an issue here,

00:15:43.080 quite frankly, because they threw the public service sector under the bus. Yeah.

00:15:49.080 So, and he barely won in the 2025. So he skimmed by, uh, 4,000, uh, votes. He was close. So with,

00:15:56.600 uh, it's a writing that is dedicated, uh, to this notion. It's one of the last writings that's

00:16:01.960 dedication, dedicated to the notion of the NDP's purpose, uh, which by the way, now I fully question.

00:16:09.160 Yeah. Well, it's, you know, again, you know, seven left, quite frankly, they seem to be,

00:16:15.320 be put in the bumper seat in this government now. So the, every vote that comes across with respect to

00:16:21.640 budgets or anything important is going to be them sitting there abstaining or agreeing or disagreeing,

00:16:27.480 but it's going to put them in a very awkward position, which quite frankly, probably drives them

00:16:31.480 from seven to four and then to three. And then, so probably it's the end at some point, but,

00:16:37.480 and, you know, we'll end up with, you know, uh, Elizabeth May until the end. And quite frankly,

00:16:44.120 then you'll go to a two party system. It looks like, right? Yes. But, so Gorge Johns, right?

00:16:50.360 So this is an interesting character, this gentleman, he has worked. So now, so, you know,

00:16:55.320 we had Lori who started her own firm, did some protesting when the other two, uh, conservatives, 0.98

00:17:02.360 you know, career government people, and then, uh, just looking into Gorge. So Gorge Johns. So he

00:17:09.000 actually ran a sustainable products company and it went under. Yeah. So, and then he kind of knocked

00:17:15.160 around with a small art gallery and then got into government. So he kind of, he had some tough

00:17:20.120 experiences and I think he's utilized those to get into government. Uh, you know,

00:17:25.080 he stood up and said, you know, I called nine mayors. Called nine mayors and they, none of them

00:17:32.840 wanted an election before Christmas because they do a Christmas fair and, uh, they didn't want that.

00:17:40.200 No, they, they just didn't want an election. That's what they said.

00:17:43.000 But it kind of feels like, you know, I don't think you talk to a single mayor, but look,

00:17:49.080 can I just point this out about this, this, the NDP, uh, scenario and even the green party.

00:17:55.640 First of all, we have a party that is very focused on a green initiative. We see it everywhere in the

00:18:01.080 budget. Come on, Elizabeth. They gave you the word green a million times in that budget. Be happy.

00:18:05.720 So on, and I think it's great to some degree, but on that note, I feel like these votes should be put

00:18:14.680 on the auction block in parliament prior to the election. If you're not going to vote, at least

00:18:21.640 let us bid on your vote and do something for charity and we'll take your vote. But for the love

00:18:26.920 of God, do not sit in that parliament representing your right, representing a constituency and do nothing

00:18:33.240 every single time. It does hurt the credit, you know, and I, people can argue it all they want.

00:18:37.800 I know it's been done over the years. It's, I think it, there's 300 or so abstentions. Like,

00:18:44.520 you know, it's been, it's been used a lot, but it does hurt the credibility of the process.

00:18:49.240 I think we all agree that like, it's hard to be credible. You know, we're looking for you to

00:18:53.400 actively vote. And at the end, the vote goes through because you decided not to vote.

00:18:59.320 It rationally doesn't make a ton of sense. It actually does not.

00:19:02.360 And that we haven't updated that as a matter of confederation at some point would really be,

00:19:09.000 I think it's a detriment at the moment. We're seeing it. And it, like I say, it, it kind of,

00:19:13.800 you know, it's okay to have these missiles that are these laws and these budgets,

00:19:18.840 but the warhead, the tip of it can't be abstention.

00:19:22.760 Yeah. Well, it's, you know, it's interesting because, you know, a win is a win is a win.

00:19:27.480 So at the end of this, you know, I guess the liberals walked away, they got the budget through,

00:19:32.200 and I guess they can look at that as a, as a win. I think, you know, they kind of limped out of the

00:19:36.440 room a little bit because in order to do it, they had to use the four A's to do it.

00:19:40.760 Yeah.

00:19:41.080 And it wasn't a pretty outcome. I don't think anyone walked out saying, oh, we were look,

00:19:44.680 we look super great today. And, you know, if they did, then they probably should watch the video

00:19:49.560 because it didn't look great. And, uh, you know, just looking at how they did it, it was, it was

00:19:55.960 bizarre. So I think we all get it.

00:19:58.520 Do you think backstage and I call it backstage now, uh, to, because of what we witnessed in this, uh,

00:20:03.720 certain amount of theater yesterday, do you think backstage they're having conversations like,

00:20:08.680 don't worry, everybody, we're going to use the four A strategy?

00:20:11.640 Oh yeah. Uh, a hundred percent.

00:20:13.080 I think so.

00:20:13.560 Oh yeah. This, these guys are, you don't, these guys are designated. So at some point in time,

00:20:18.920 they're picked out, you know, they're either, their riding boats are too close or they're

00:20:23.240 about to pension out or something. They're, they're definitely having that conversation. And,

00:20:27.960 you know, this was, this was all put up. And so that, that kind of came to a conclusion,

00:20:33.080 you know, uh, Gord. So I don't want to forget, because this is actually

00:20:37.880 so Gord Johns. So he's actually interesting because in his small paper, the Kucheng Gazette,

00:20:44.440 Koucheng, Kucheng, Le Kucheng. So sorry if I messed that up. So he came out and yeah,

00:20:52.600 and he said, I'm voting for this, quite frankly. Now on the day of, he actually kind of changed his

00:20:58.680 tune. So yesterday he changed his tune and said, I talked to all the mayors and then no one won an

00:21:03.160 election in the press up there. He was actually talking about the fact that he had got the

00:21:07.960 government to give them the aviation contract. So the territorial, uh, firefighting contract

00:21:15.880 and funding, and then the aircraft contract for the firefighting for the, for the, for the fleet.

00:21:21.640 Yeah. So he had got, uh, federal funding to support the firefighting fleet and that had been put in the

00:21:27.240 bag. So he was good. And he also got biomass tax credits. Hmm. Yeah. I probably missed that in the

00:21:35.160 budget. Cause there's a ton of, of tax credits in there. So probably somewhere loaded in the budget.

00:21:41.320 It seemed like there was an extension of biomass, uh, which is, uh, organic materials like plants,

00:21:48.280 wood, waste, that there's tax credit eligibility for clean technology investment tax credits.

00:21:54.280 Okay. So this is one of those programs that was in the Trudeau area seemed to get carried forward.

00:21:59.400 It probably was in jeopardy. He got it extended on and he got the firefighting fleet.

00:22:03.720 I was going to ask you, he was probably already participating in that budget at the time on the

00:22:07.720 biomass, uh, uh, project front that was in effect. He just didn't want it to go away.

00:22:13.880 Yeah. And that was a negotiating. Right. So he said, you know, that behind the scenes in the press

00:22:18.440 up there, what he's telling us last night and what he was saying in the press, that's what he's saying

00:22:22.440 in the press. And that was reported in the, in the gazette. And it was, he was quoted in it.

00:22:26.840 So he found his piece of the budget and quite frankly, he was happy and he went moving on.

00:22:32.040 Cowichan Gazette. There you go. You're better.

00:22:35.400 I don't know. You're better.

00:22:36.920 I don't know.

00:22:38.600 Okay. So now the forays are done. Now we're just going to get to the eight, right?

00:22:42.600 So, so Elizabeth, okay. And, and the video. So we have a short clip, uh, that we're going to play.

00:22:50.920 And quite frankly, we don't have to, you know, we'll play it inside the video and then you can

00:22:55.400 watch it. Uh, but when you watch the video, so, and you have to, we're also going to put up the

00:23:00.760 long version and this is Vashi, um, from CTV and, uh, she's actually interviewing Elizabeth May.

00:23:08.280 And you got to watch this video because it is the strangest video where she talks about the fact

00:23:14.040 that she voted, um, because she got the word, uh, from the prime minister who she trusts implicitly.

00:23:24.920 Yeah.

00:23:25.320 That he's going to follow the Paris, uh, accord.

00:23:29.080 And, but at the end of the video, if you watch the full video, she does come out after Vashi

00:23:35.400 asks her several times and say, she didn't get anything in writing.

00:23:39.000 Right.

00:23:39.800 She has no firm commitment. She ran out of time negotiating and they wouldn't give her anything.

00:23:46.040 So the only thing she voted on, I don't know if, if we probably, if we can find the clip,

00:23:51.000 we'll put it in here. The only thing this lady voted on was the prime minister got up and said 1.00

00:23:57.880 that the environmental measures were in the budget. And then she, that was it, that was it.

00:24:03.400 That's all she got. So it, what we're about to watch is it amounts to, I heard,

00:24:10.440 Carney's in love with me. And so in the future, I'm going to just play my cards because I know he's

00:24:16.040 coming my way. He hasn't said anything himself and I don't have anything in writing. He didn't

00:24:20.440 send me flowers, but I'm pretty sure we're in love. That's what it feels like. There's no guarantees

00:24:27.000 here. She just threw a vote. No, no. And then quite frankly now, you know,

00:24:31.800 seems like a very nice lady, but this, this, this clip is a little crackers. 1.00

00:24:35.960 What is substantial about his commitment? And I ask because I think you would be the first

00:24:41.320 outside of this circumstance to say words are not the same as actions. Prime Minister did not attend

00:24:46.280 COP. They rolled back the consumer carbon tax. They intend to roll back the emissions cap.

00:24:50.680 They have paused the EV mandate. They are the biggest champion at the moment from a verbal perspective,

00:24:56.440 at least of fossil fuel development. Like what in that scenario adds up to actually doing what the

00:25:03.160 Prime Minister told you today he would do? Respect for the Prime Minister and his office

00:25:08.760 and respect for the idea that one who goes onto the floor of the House of Commons on a day as

00:25:13.400 as portentous as today, as historic as today, and says clearly we will reach our targets and they

00:25:21.880 are a commitment of this government. I have to move. Do you believe?

00:25:26.120 Because I've never heard the Prime Minister say something that he didn't intend to deliver on,

00:25:32.440 which is why it made me very nervous he wouldn't say out loud, I'm committed to the Paris Agreement

00:25:37.160 targets. Now I know that he has said so in a moment of consequence. I respect him. He has,

00:25:45.160 I've known him for, well, since he was governor of the Bank of Canada. I can't think that anyone would

00:25:50.680 say about Mark Carney. The guy says one thing and does another. I've never heard that said about him.

00:25:55.800 You know, I took a look. I went and took a look at the 2025 vote, you know, for the Gulf Islands,

00:26:03.240 you know, where she's from in BC. And she's very close. So it's her lead is the Liberals are actually

00:26:12.360 gaining on her. Right. Right. So, you know, I don't know how much she's 71 years old. I don't know how long

00:26:17.400 or how much longer she's going to be in politics. Well, it feels like the party itself is a little

00:26:22.680 in shambles, as it has been, I think, before. But they eliminated her co-president or co-

00:26:31.720 Well, they had a co-leader for a while. Jonathan Pedno. Is he gone now?

00:26:36.040 Yeah. So she's serving solely now, I think. Oh, yeah. Because he resigned. So she's kind of on her

00:26:44.040 own. He was, remember, they used to stand up together before as kind of co-leaders.

00:26:48.280 Oh, he seemed like a good dude, actually. Yeah. And so, but anyways, it didn't,

00:26:52.440 it was very interesting. But for those of you who have a few minutes and you want to watch,

00:26:57.400 it's, it's, it's got a number of odd statements in the clip. And so quite frankly, and, you know,

00:27:04.520 listen, I, I think, you know, trust is a great thing in politics. I think you got to be very careful.

00:27:09.400 Yeah. So, you know, it's interesting. She's talking about trust and everything. They're,

00:27:15.080 they're having people abstaining, walking across the floor. So all this anarchy and

00:27:19.400 Machiavellian behavior is going on around her. And she's talking about the fact that she's,

00:27:24.360 this is the honorable man on the floor. I think she says when, when the prime minister

00:27:29.240 goes onto the floor and he says, you know, I'm going to do this, you have to believe that he's an

00:27:33.240 honorable man. Yeah. All right. All right. There we go. So, okay. So watch that. And okay.

00:27:39.240 Now my last one, right. Of course. So it's Chris, right? So this was, you know,

00:27:46.520 we all went through this, the final a Chris Dantremont, Chris Dantremont. So,

00:27:51.720 you know, this was interesting because I never really looked at it. I know you talked about it.

00:27:56.280 You and Jim talked about it. You had a show there where you talked about it, but I kind of dug into

00:28:01.880 a little. I thought, you know, what are some of the reasons that he did go across? Right.

00:28:05.720 And so as time went on, we kind of learned a bunch of stuff. So, uh, we learned and,

00:28:10.520 you know, Brian Lilly had did a really cool piece on this and the sun, which, uh, shout out to him.

00:28:15.960 So he, you know, he had been talking Chris quite a bit about the fact that he wanted to be the

00:28:22.280 Speaker of the house. Why would he want that? Well, it's, I mean, it's a lofty, uh, wonderful

00:28:27.320 thing to, yeah, it's an extra hundred K. So, so by the way, so for those of you want to get into

00:28:32.840 politics, you know, it's 209,000 if you become an MP. Okay. So it's plus your perks, plus your

00:28:39.000 expenses and everything else. It's a great gig. It's three times the, what the household wage

00:28:44.440 average is for Canadians. So it's not a bad gig, but if you become the house speaker,

00:28:48.760 it goes up an extra a hundred thousand. That's pretty good. Well, it's pretty good.

00:28:52.520 If you're a guy who's coming towards pension, right? Which he is. So he's in his pension,

00:28:57.400 he's in the pension horizon now, so he can see he's the horse get hit in the finish line.

00:29:01.720 So he can see it. So if you can get your income up in the last three years,

00:29:05.720 it's an average. So pensions and government tend to be an averaging system where they take the last

00:29:10.280 three average years and they, they put them together and then you get a pension for life.

00:29:15.720 So if you think about it, if you can get your, your income up a hundred thousand and you're going

00:29:20.360 to get that average over the rest of your life and you live another 20 years, you know,

00:29:25.000 that's a pretty substantial amount of money over the period of time.

00:29:28.200 What a self-centered thing to do.

00:29:31.080 But here's the cool thing. You become the speaker, right? You get a car and driver.

00:29:35.720 Oh, that's all right. That's pretty good.

00:29:37.000 Well, I always wanted a driver, right? I always wanted to be that guy who was in the back seat

00:29:40.520 with my paper. You know, when I used to work on Bay street, I used to drive down in my,

00:29:44.360 my shitty sedan. And quite frank, I used to sit at the light and I used to watch the rich 0.84

00:29:48.680 guys coming out of the Kingsway and they'd be sitting there with their, their legs crossed

00:29:52.920 reading the Globe and Mail. I was like, damn, I want to be that guy. 0.98

00:29:56.280 That's a guy. Yeah. 0.99

00:29:57.240 You're right. Okay. So you sold me on this. I want to be the speaker of the house.

00:29:59.960 Yeah. You, of course. Then you get an apartment on the grounds,

00:30:03.640 right at par on the parliament compound.

00:30:05.240 Yeah. You get it right there, which is, and you get a beautiful cottage home

00:30:09.640 or farm home in the Gatineau Hills. So it's a pretty good gig, right? And more.

00:30:14.840 What? No, no. So, so this is, you know, he's, but the interesting thing, it's all kind of coming

00:30:20.440 out. He was talking about it quite a bit, you know, in the lead up to this all coming.

00:30:25.480 And then all of a sudden, right. Boom. He walks across.

00:30:30.680 Somebody made him an offer. It sounds like he's getting a cottage in Gatineau.

00:30:34.600 He's getting some, but, but he did walked across. So, you know, the big smile, but, you know,

00:30:39.400 I think we're all reading the articles and we're reading what's going on. Yeah.

00:30:42.760 He's not getting a real hot, warm and fuzzy reception back home.

00:30:46.600 Like you pointed out, he got booed in church.

00:30:48.920 Remembrance Day was a disaster for him.

00:30:51.240 Yeah. So, you know, Nova Scotians really do like you to have

00:30:56.120 to just to say what you're going to do and do what you're going to say.

00:30:59.080 I mean, that's historically how that culture survives and supports one another there.

00:31:05.400 Yeah. When you pull stuff like this, I don't know how you go home. And I don't,

00:31:09.560 I think that you better be careful because there's the other thing you pointed out is

00:31:14.680 none of the four A's really stand a shot at reelection.

00:31:18.520 Yeah. They were done. They were done.

00:31:20.120 Either they're on the way out.

00:31:21.240 A couple of them will try to go back to municipal or provincial politics, probably.

00:31:25.560 Right. Because that's all they know is politics.

00:31:27.800 And the other ones. Sadly, yeah.

00:31:28.920 Yeah. The other two, quite frankly,

00:31:32.360 you know, I think the party is where it is.

00:31:34.120 So quite frankly, if they can get some benefits and go home and maybe get a job.

00:31:38.520 Do you think there's anything we can do to

00:31:43.400 change the way this kind of voting pattern happens in parliament?

00:31:46.120 Or we just, this is it.

00:31:47.560 This is what we have and this is how it's going to be.

00:31:50.680 Can we change it? Oh, sure.

00:31:52.040 We can change it.

00:31:52.920 You know, the last thing I said with when we talked about Chris is quite frankly,

00:31:59.160 you know, it's a great income for people who want to get into it.

00:32:03.080 We need what we need right now is to get

00:32:06.600 good politicians, good politicians.

00:32:08.280 So we need to get back to where we're at.

00:32:10.360 And, you know, people who have professions that want to do it for the right reasons

00:32:15.480 and it's not a job they want to take and they just want it for a profile

00:32:19.560 and they just want it for the cash and the pension.

00:32:22.280 They want to actually do some good.

00:32:23.800 They're hopefully, you know, done all they've done in their current career and they're moving

00:32:29.160 on to something, you know, that's beneficial to their community.

00:32:33.480 Yeah, they aspire to do something more benevolent than just a job.

00:32:38.920 And quite frankly, with their higher skill sets and they're because they've been in business,

00:32:44.680 they've been in the community, they've done fundraising, they've done all the well-rounded

00:32:48.600 Canadians.

00:32:50.440 They can afford to go and be a politician because they've made money in the past.

00:32:55.400 Then they go forward.

00:32:56.760 They can live off, you know, a nice salary, but quite frankly, not a life-changing salary.

00:33:01.320 And they'll be happy and fine.

00:33:03.640 And they can make a difference, actually make a difference.

00:33:05.880 Right.

00:33:06.120 That you're right.

00:33:06.680 I mean, it's not a bad gig.

00:33:08.440 It is not a bad gig.

00:33:09.480 And, you know, people talk about what the actual salary is, but, you know, your wardrobe,

00:33:14.600 your travel, all of the expenses associated with being a minister are, hey, you know what?

00:33:20.440 Yes, you are then also a prominent actor in your community.

00:33:25.320 From there on, you should be able to build a career even if you're, you know, voted out of office.

00:33:31.080 Well, that's if you vote.

00:33:34.040 If you participate.

00:33:35.880 So here's the key, go be a great politician, help your community.

00:33:42.600 Don't go to Ottawa and do silly things like these 4A's did.

00:33:47.400 Yeah. 0.54

00:33:47.880 And have a great career.

00:33:49.960 Stay out of the 4A club if you can.

00:33:53.320 All right.

00:33:54.440 Thanks, Mike.

00:33:55.000 I really appreciate it.

00:33:56.360 And we look forward, you know, I think we're probably going to be back in the seat in the spring.

00:34:01.160 Now, let's hope budget is on time and we don't go to a point in time again where we actually try to

00:34:08.280 pass a budget close to Christmas because we all know no one wants to be having an election around

00:34:14.760 Christmas.

00:34:15.320 It's just not important enough, Paul.

00:34:17.160 No, it's not.

00:34:19.080 Thanks, everyone.

00:34:20.040 Subscribe and we hope to see you soon.

True Patriot Love - November 19, 2025

How Canada’s 2025 Budget Really Passed

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