Inside Carney's Liberal Convention Shake-Up： TPL On Location
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On Friday of last week, we did an interview with Maxime Bernier and then got into a car and drove to the liberal convention in Montreal to talk about political whiplash. And we're here to tell you about what that experience was like and share a little bit of media that we shot while we were there.
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hi thanks for joining us this is tpl media i'm mike brady and paul uh and if you're just getting
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to know us uh thanks for joining if you're new to the network uh i hope you enjoyed the program
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please if you do tell a friend comment participate become part of the community and uh certainly
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don't hesitate to lend your support we appreciate it on friday of last week we did an interview with
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maxime bernier and then got into a car and drove to the liberal uh convention in montreal
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talk about political whiplash but that's what we did and we're here to talk about what that
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experience was like and share a little bit of the uh a little bit of media with you that we
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shot while we were there yeah and you know thanks mike and i would i didn't go so i was really
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appreciative that you guys did the drive and and got there you you know all you were missed i'm
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If there was perspectives you would have brought to this, that would have been delightful.
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So I was moving around a couple of projects on the weekend.
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I think finally Saturday afternoon, you know, flipping back and forth between the Masters,
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And then we saw him, this is the Prime Minister, Mark Carney, walking through the crowd, doing a love-in of handshakes, and then done.
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He's a very huggy Prime Minister, as it turns out, huh?
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He is, you know, and a lot of people want to see him.
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It's, you know, it's the movie star effect, right?
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We really love to see our politicians now, and it's created a whole, you know, micro-stardom in Canada and also in the U.S.
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And it was funny because I'm listening to you guys, you know, and I'm thinking to myself, well, I'm hearing there's a protest.
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I'm like, OK, so there was a number of protests.
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There was multiple protests, but they were outside of the Palestinian protests that kind of were doing their own thing that I've seen.
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All of these other protests were kind of together, everything from communism to religion.
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It was interesting because they chose a different part of the building.
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So when we arrive on Saturday morning, don't forget,
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the Friday before, Marilyn Gladue came and stunk the place out
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And with that, we rolled in just as the convention was finishing.
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and we had started seeing everyone kind of flood out of the building.
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And it did kind of see like it was a depressive kind of like...
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we were driving around the town like everyone kind of looks sad and we didn't know why a little
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toned down yeah we didn't know why around the convention center well friday so just to let you
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know as you're driving up there were a lot of really short not so positive comments about
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marilyn gladu and the four crossing i think media did pick up on that and they just you know they
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hit on it and then they left it it was like okay that's odd and then there that was it and they
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They didn't dig into who she was, what her views are.
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Friday night, I think the internet had its time.
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And then Saturday, we heard about it firsthand from the delegates and the groups inside of the actual convention.
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It was a pretty rough interview, you know, that, and we'll get more into this, but it wasn't lost on delegates there.
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This floor crossing is, it's not all lollipops and sugar candy.
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It's got a certain amount of, it has a stigma attached to it.
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But as we arrived, the next day I thought to myself,
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now we had been to the conservative convention.
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And I'm sorry, but I thought it was kind of lame.
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i've seen conferences for you know sleep apnea machines have more energy than they yeah and this
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this definitely had a different vibe to it it was a different energy and that brought with it of
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course the the prime minister arriving on saturday brought with it all of the protesters which were
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positioned uh and contained in a park right across the street uh and uh actually why don't we have a
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look at that right now okay now uh you've seen the protest what i will say with regard to the
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protest uh was first of all what you saw in there was a lot of the federal workers unions uh you
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know different uh subsets of parties and and philosophies out there and groups that were
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trying to get their message across we had a conversation you'll see later with one of the
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communists uh out there um okay protesting uh and it was really obviously well organized very well
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organized but under heavy police scrutiny yeah so let me uh show you one other little piece of video
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so now there's a huge protest going on and a parade has gone around the convention center
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where all of the protesters organized themselves into a single parade it was quite remarkable and
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they made their way around the building it felt like a mardi gras new orleans kind of a parade
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more than a protest like it was very well organized everyone had smiles on their faces
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there as you can see from the video there's dogs there's a little bit of everything they're
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dressed up in outfits it's fun that one of the best mark carney heads i think i'll ever see in
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my life uh mardi gras style and then right at three o'clock this mere minutes ago communists
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religions unions workers educators there was a vast amount of them behind me
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but the one thing that i can say since it's been cleared out they had the best mark kearney head
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of all you know brady you looked you looked and i think you maybe felt a little lonely out there
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i felt a little lonely um usually when you see something get cleared out that fast there's tear
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gas still lingering in the air um but it as nice as those people were it seems like the actual
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removal of them was probably pretty nice as well yeah we were only gone for 10 minutes and came
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back and the entire as you can see i was the only person left in the entire park i kept thinking as
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we shot that little bit with brady showing himself alone in the park there that we're going to be
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removed there's no way we're supposed to be at some point yeah but the protest promptly ended
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as the prime minister arrived so he was not faced with any of the protests no okay so this it looks
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like kind of like a john wick movie tell you truth where all of a sudden you snap your fingers and
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everyone just goes stage right but paul it's a little weird exactly like that yeah we don't want
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anybody in the square here comes the king so now so let me just so just recap because i'm listening
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to you guys as you travel you know it's kind of funny because i'm like so you know when i get a
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break from the stuff i'm working on what's going on oh there's a protest going on here but it's
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very organized. So when I'm looking at that, I'm thinking that's pretty organized, right?
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Like you said, they have their dogs. Yeah. Was there coffee served? I don't know how else it
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could have been organized more, more peacefully. It was water handed out. Like it was, it was
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really nice. Yeah. It was really nice. Gone. Gone. Instantly. Like you, like you threw down
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the batman smoke bomb and by the time it cleared everything we heard the horns blasting for the
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arrival of the king yes and and protesters gone and the so that was an interesting oh it's an
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interesting little experience that we had there but overall uh the convention center was alive
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with activity oh it was so it was so much of a contrast from calgary like the energy the youth
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seeing that much youth around um it looked like a college campus yeah right well you know let's
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and i wanted to kind of do the comparison because the purposes of the two conventions i think were
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different a little bit absolutely yeah i think on purpose the conservative convention was actually
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put together just to get him a vote of confidence yes or no on the ballot paper yeah so let's
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everyone get here and you know they even wrote you know if you know do you yes you agree pierre
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should be you know the way they even staged the question so people were kind of directed to
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you know just tick yes and let him move on it almost felt like a formality like it had to be
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done not that they wanted a bit of a fundraiser where you got to vote well i think after the
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election you know they're they had to do it and they had to get a they wanted to get a overwhelming
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majority so they could show that he had support so they you know they weren't looking for huge
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numbers to show up they weren't looking for large debate over issues they were just looking to get
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to the vote do the vote and get out of there so it was kind of as soon as the vote happened it was
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like speech okay wrap up everybody's at the casino yeah let's go to the casino and have a drink and
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then let's get on a plane and get the hell out of here right you know thank you for coming and
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placing your vote for me great description that's how that's how it felt very much and not a lot of
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discussion about what went on in the uh delegate meetings and the policy meetings and all that
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sort of stuff. It was all kind of kept, I guess, underwrapped. It felt a little like
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a little cultish, to be honest with you, that if you were in, you were in. If you weren't,
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you weren't. Of course, we weren't. And I'll get to this, but we're two for two, Paul. We
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got kicked out of the conservative convention and we got kicked out of the liberal convention.
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We walked ourselves out. We put ourselves in the situation.
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Really, a young man named Anthony, I believe, walked us out, as I recall.
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In fact, it was an easygoing experience, even that.
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But, you know, that we are not traditional media is definitely something we taste everywhere we go now.
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No matter how kind we are or what our mission is, people at the party level are frightened of what will end up out there on nontraditional media.
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So I will say to that group, this is what we're doing.
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If you don't want us there, it doesn't matter because we go anyway,
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and we still talk to the people that are in attendance,
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I don't want to leave the little bit of bait out there saying that we got
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kicked out without actually reeling in this fish and explaining it.
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So we had spent the day doing what we set out to do,
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not to be aggressive with media, not to say, hey, everybody,
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look at us we're here we just wanted to go and ask these questions like mike had said the question
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was if you had one question for our prime minister what would you ask him yeah we were asking delegates
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and supporters of the liberal party what what that question would be so we felt like we had
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gotten our day done uh mark kearney's now rolled into town like i said the protests are cleared out
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myself and mike kind of lonely actually everybody's gone inside everyone's inside and we're just no
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protesters left we can't buy any people any more coffees we got all the coffees nobody's gone so
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the next step would be well let's try and buy our way in well we couldn't do that so we just walked
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in um past security and just walked in and once myself and Mike started filming some stuff in
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that area which you can see here once we got done filming that I looked at Mike and said you know I
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feel like we're the only two people in this entire area out of the hundreds of people that are here
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right now that don't have badges maybe we should go because CSIS is starting to look at us like
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we're starting to see some suits and people kind of walking around who are these guys that is
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literally word for word what brady said hey do you notice everybody else has badges i was like oh
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yeah okay i don't think we're supposed to be here maybe we should have went through the metal
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detector um so then we go and find uh the media table which mike i don't know if you want to
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elaborate on why this was weird but the media table the media table was behind the security
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in a zone where media couldn't actually get to without a delegate badge so unless you were
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pre-approved they got a badge sent to you in the mail or whatever the case is yeah maybe it was
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issued before but don't come now it's the last day nothing on the media table one poor individual
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there who then gets approached by brady and i saying hey so they won't sell us a badge and we
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kind of want to go inside and see the prime minister so can we have media passes now this
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astute individual anthony well done said and i quote why don't you guys have badges we said
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I said, patches, we don't need no stinking patches.
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But we did, as Brady pointed out, have a really interesting day of talking to people.
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One is, while everybody had something positive in their heart to take them to that convention,
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Right. Everybody we spoke to had a message for the prime minister that was very much their own.
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This individual wants to talk a little bit about where are we getting the dollars from to go to war?
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That question would be, where do you intend on getting all the money for the military expenditures you're planning on in this budget and future budgets?
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Yeah. And so there you go. One of the comments, by the way, I love on on this piece of video.
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But that was, you know, so we got, that's a very interesting perspective.
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We got a communist saying, okay, well, you know what, we all have different things.
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But I am a Canadian, and I'm curious, if we have to up our 2% to appreciate into NATO,
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and we've made all of these commitments, where exactly is the money coming from?
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right that's a pretty serious question uh now here's an actual supporter of uh of our prime
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minister of mark carney and the party and uh they have a question as well the first question i would
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ask is i would appreciate a rationale behind allowing their lady to join caucus um pretty
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frankly caught my intention when she joined caucus she uh has continuously voted to uh
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heat conversion therapy's eagle in the past has said some rather obnoxious things when it comes to
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scientific misinformation and even ran previously to the leader of the conservative party
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and her writing she won by over 50 to the conservatives so it certainly caught me as
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by surprise when she crossed over to the liberal party a moment right out of today's stories and
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headlines there's a liberal saying to us mark carney what are you doing bringing this person
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over and allowing them to cross the floor with regard to maryland gladu yeah so once again
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guys what we're seeing is a party that is not necessarily um in line with everything that the
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prime minister is doing and you actually did some uh backroom checking on what was going on behind
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the scenes yes yes it was a very festive affair but behind the scenes there was a certain amount
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of dissent and a lot of disagreement yep so uh various reports um and various insiders i'm not
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going to out anybody i've put this information out there that inside of these meetings on friday
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and what topics would be discussed that the youth movement so the youth movement for five ten years
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inside of the liberal uh liberal party here have been told that we want to be the economy friendly
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we have to be green movements and carbon taxes and all of these things and now that the talking
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points were more centrist and based on economy and resources that this new young group actually
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had a problem with no what are you and they started a bit of a tiff nothing there was no
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chairs being thrown like previous conventions and things like that but there was a definitely a
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descent from the young group towards the older group and the traditional liberals saying what
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are you doing you're steering so far off of what we're our mission statement is like yeah what's
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happening here so there's been a lot of fighting going on this weekend in montreal uh amongst the
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And the youth were having their own election on the floor while we were there to find the group that would represent the youth in Canada in the Liberal Party.
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And their tacticians as a group put together really good campaigns for both of the groups that we saw.
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And both of them were very, very liberal oriented.
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They wanted to see the prime minister pull away from the center.
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which I like to point out is difficult in times like this.
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But it seems to me that the rhetoric or the philosophies that they've been imparted on within them have only that to say.
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We need to save the environment. We need to put special interests first.
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We need to make sure that students are cared for in a better manner.
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Things that you would expect youth to come out with.
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But they feel, I think, a little defied by the prime minister.
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Yeah, well, we actually sat down with one of the youths, and we'll take a look at that note.
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One question you would take to the prime minister.
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How would he, as an older gentleman, as a new politician, engage with you?
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Because we're on the ground, us boots on the ground, we can only do so much as young people.
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But we need help from the top party brass, from the older liberals to kind of mentor us and help us and sort of teach us what to do.
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so yeah the even the youth like i said from the very beginning i love seeing youth involved in
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politics and being out there and having energy as you could tell that young gentleman was excited
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to be a part of the new liberal party the young liberals right um we didn't see any of that at
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the conservative convention so it was refreshing to see that well can i throw just and before you
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move on it yeah you know it's interesting again the different uh setup or dynamics at the two
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two events that i noted as talking to you and attending one conservatives tend to use influencers
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they tend to use that as their marketing campaign so they bring in a bunch of kind of
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paid influencers they they put them uh out there they get people to follow them based on sort of
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influencer tactics right yeah one-liner clickbait yeah a lot of that a lot of that is kind of the
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way they go at it the liberals do it a different way right they get to they get their youth to buy
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into the climate agenda the parents the the liberal parents of the kids kind of indoctrinate
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them into this thinking so you know to leave that is a very big uh directional course change because
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all these these kids get into play liberals traditionally from my experience especially on
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the federal side they're all very good at following a line you know you go to a conservative convention
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and quite frankly no one can line up no one can find a lineup no one wants to follow each other
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no one wants to go in this oh this was orderly man right you go to a you go to a liberal convention
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man they get right in line they follow each other they they you know they sing the same hymn they do
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this but they're singing the same hymn based on a doctrine right as soon as that doctrine changes
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that's a challenge right because all of a sudden you've kind of brought these kids and these people
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into this over the years telling them this is the way it should be because you're saving the world
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for them and then they show up and it's a completely different story yeah that leads to
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the glad do and the way you're actually forming the majority to the challenge because now you're
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starting to bring people who don't have or haven't been indoctrinated or the same issues they're not
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basically following the same policies ideas thoughts insights so now you're bringing a whole
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group of people and they don't follow that so that's a challenge because you know you can feel
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that i mean i think that uh there was a lot there was a youthful element to this group uh that's
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one thing i also noticed the age the demographic of people that attended this conference as opposed
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to the alberta conference with uh with the conservatives i mean it was night and day
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oh completely night and day like even when we were very very little youth kids represented
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oh there's so many it looked like a university but i don't know if you noticed and it's kind
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of funny because i was watching uh a couple mainstream channels over the weekend that did
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right after the speech talked about it the conservative reps that come on speak much
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different than even the liberal the the liberal representatives that come on and talk about the
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speech and the conference and everything convention are very polished very developed they actually
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they they a lot of buzzwords they speak you know again the way they're uh the conservative group
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there are representatives that come on quite frankly a little more guttural uh you know they
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hit it square on it's a different if it's it's just a different way of approaching it but it's
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it's a little more hardcore on the conservative side it's got a lot of uh buzzwords and speak on
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the liberal side well that's where the buzzwords and speak uh and get developed yeah that's what
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they literally developed on the liberal side yeah exactly and you watch it you're watching the two
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parties trying to explain the the speech on tv and you're like wow were they even at the same
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speech we did have an interesting experience and i'll share it i know brady probably would feel
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maybe like we shouldn't sorry if i'm doing this yeah we approached one of the youth uh she was
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running for uh one of the positions in the in the youth party and she was up for election and i said
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would you like to speak to us for a few minutes and her reaction was to look at brady and i like
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up and down why would i speak to you guys and she walked away and i thought to myself oh yeah
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we are two middle-aged white guys standing here asking you to tell us about your platform we are
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the wearing true patriot love sweaters you have in mind all right i got and therefore you know i
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can't even speak to you and i thought to myself that's indicative of a liberal party that i knew
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previously that's a shunned liberal party member i mean you don't get that from them but what was
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the nice gentleman behind oh and then and then what did he say right he said oh yeah don't worry
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she's not going to win i'll speak to you so you know like there was recognition there at the same
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time uh i don't know if she won i hope i hope she had a good uh convention either way i hope she
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didn't but the one thing i will reiterate is we have a party that has delegates that went out of
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their way paid money went inside spent three days spent money on a hotel much like we saw in calgary
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and in the end they're not a hundred percent drinking the kool-aid they're not happy right
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now that the prime minister is moving to the center they're not entirely happy that they are
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seeing people join the party the big tent discussion was a big one we heard there too
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yeah not everybody loves the big tent theory where everybody can come into the tent because now in
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the tent they have conservatives that are going to pull their prime minister and their leader
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closer to the center and further from the left that was noted one piece of footage that i have
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share right now is we actually ran into mark carney's biggest supporter like his biggest fan
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and you'll see this right here i can tell you something about mark carney by god grace i'm a
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believer i believe in i'm a christian i'm a believer god give us the right prime minister
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on right time yeah he's doing great he's doing great i will tell you my history you know said
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i was a conservative before whenever i took the conservative membership i took it for
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five years so once mark carney get in the way he is doing it i cancel my conservative membership
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i'm working for the liberal he's having a great vision about canada great vision i can tell you
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something 21st century belongs to canada so that gentleman had just announced that he had left the
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conservative party he believes in everything mark carney's doing and he thinks that this is the right
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time kind of presented by the universe for mark carney he is here to save canada well as you heard
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him say you know uh you know he's an immigrant to canada he he he bought into what what the
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conservatives were saying because he wanted to be part of a a more um economically focused and
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more fiscally responsible but in the end he just feels that mark carney is doing more for the
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country than pure poly of would do uh in speaking to him afterward he was even saying you know i
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I don't know what Pierre Paliyev's stand is anymore.
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If I understood what his platform was, but he just wants to argue.
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Now, we had a good discussion about that because he pointed out as well
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that over the last two weeks, Pierre Paliyev has been out there
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trying to gain back the steam that he had leading into the last election.
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we've got a bit of a distance to go here and this is why it was good for us our team to go down and
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talk to the everybody it doesn't matter what party it is i'll go to the ndb convention i'll go to the
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green party convention start a purple one i'll show up there i just want to know what everybody's
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thinking because the only way we can get actual truths and actual you know situations dealt with
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is by talking to each other and trying to figure it out i know that sounds cliche but this is what
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we're doing so here's the other thing i noticed and i want to point this out to canadians that
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want to make a difference protesting is not a bad thing um it requires some protesting out there
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you can go through many ways many many means to do it canada you are the most polite
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protesters i have ever seen and you're not out there in droves no it might require that you're
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out there in droves to be honest with you there was a very orderly group of dedicated people
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that were set to be there but the average canadian did not show up to where the prime minister would
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be laying out his platform and talking to his party that to me is an interesting statement on
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where mark carney is with canadians he seems nobody seems to really want to i guess get involved
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and there was a a decent protest but it wasn't tens of thousands of people well and i thought
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because you know the the provincial election is coming up in october of this year and i thought
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when you guys headed there i thought oh for sure there'd be a lot of people mauling around
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because the the the gentleman who's representing the party quebecois he's actually looking for
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separation so that's his main platform idea so i thought oh this is going to be interesting
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christophe what's that gentleman's name again paul saint-pierre paul saint-pierre
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No, no, but so Paul St-Pierre is looking for, you know, the separation for the Parti
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And so I thought for sure there'd be a lot of people mauling around talking about their
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If they were, if they were there, they were inside the building.
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The issues were the issues that you saw out there many times before it was unions demanding
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better wages uh and by the way we have an episode coming up on minimum wage i think you're going to
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want to see yeah um you know that sort of labor movement was there a little bit of representation
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for different parties that were small the you know the the communist party which is trying to
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make a comeback among the youth in montreal um but the truth is there was not a huge amount of
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uh quebec only sentiment which i expected as well right yeah oh interesting well my final thoughts
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on on this whole thing um is actually has it's kind of a segue away from the actual convention
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itself but how beautiful montreal really is montreal's parliament buildings montreal's
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architecture down there beautiful very very wait wait wait there's a butt coming i hear a i know
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you well enough brady to know this kind of complimentary setup can only really have a
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hammer at the end so what's the hammer can we spend less money on changing light bulbs maintenance
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and more on power blasting just hire two guys to go around and power blast this city these things
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are rotting apart the flag bowls have so much um dog urine on it that is creating murals they look
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like van gogh paintings on the flagpoles like come on guys clean the city up it's beautiful i really
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think that there's something to be said there a montreal it has such old buildings and they
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require such maintenance yeah but as we were walking around brady's like oh for the love of
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god i just love architecture when i see you know rotten water stains from 20 years ago i'm like
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this can be fixed with a power blaster um i wouldn't mind uh giving a shout out to deb
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schultz who did everything she could in her power to try to get us media passes but we do not qualify
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we are we are we're too non-biased i guess we are renegades paul did you know no but the good news
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is the experience that we had kind of gave both of us an understanding of what it was like to be
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a delegate at a liberal convention and this time around frankly it was a message to the prime
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minister directly from his party there was not a lot of rah rah rah i think everybody's happy with
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their prime minister but the party wants to see some changes well if you could let's throw this
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question back to us just to close this out if you could ask our prime minister one question paul
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what would you ask him uh well i think it's similar to our interview we did on friday it's
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about the constitutional issue and how we're going to address it right now because i think you know
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we've talked about it many times we have alberta and quebec sitting now talking about leaving
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canada you know they're talking about referendums and uh with everything going on in the world and
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the changes and our reliance on resources oil gas minerals mining you know what are we going to do
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to keep them in the fold and and how are we going to make that work and and i think it's a big issue
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right now i think you can focus on majority all you want i think coming up in the next six months
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they're going to be on the table and we're going to be having the conversation so that's the key
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thing because Canada without those two provinces is not a Canada. It's not Canada. Mike, what would
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you ask the Prime Minister? I would ask the Prime Minister a pint of Guinness or Molson Canadian.
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What's it going to be this summer? Because I think we need you here at home, even though Europe might
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be calling you on summer vacation. I think there's a lot to be straightened out here at home. So I'm
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just curious. Are you taking summer vacation? Are you going to pull all this together? Well, my
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question was the same before the liberal convention and it's the same after the liberal convention
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um who do you know on your rolodex that you can call right now to release the full epstein files
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that's not a bad question what we we forgot about we did we take a break from that for some reason
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you know it made me laugh when trump said that he was giving an extension on the deadline to iran
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one of the senators stood up and said oh that's great so while we got a couple weeks off here
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It was good to understand what's going on there.
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I think our prime minister has some challenges within his own party ahead of him.
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There's a lot of pressure associated with that.
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I wonder if he can herd these kittens, to be honest with you.
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one more controversial statement you guys might get mad at me but smoked meat is overrated
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how dare you that's insanity what is wrong with you i just wanted the comment section to go nuts
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paul next time you and i from montreal yeah i forget brady's at home yeah all right thanks for
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joining us we'll catch you next time and if you see us at your convention you might want to show
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us the door we are very adept at taking that direction thanks talk to you
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